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#Mahvel Rivals baby
dull wigeon
does it heal the team or just you
oh
okay it does damage
so I want to fight in the web
runic apex
the web i think also heals you if you latch to it
dull wigeon
magneto's mag cannon charge is just the three arrows, right?
it doesn't charge beyond that?
runic apex
i floundered on magneto hard so no idea
dull wigeon
I really like magneto
runic apex
im not a tank guy
dull wigeon
it helps that he's very straightforward to play
dull wigeon
I'm an "I like winning" player which in these kinds of games usually means tanks
but I do really like punisher just for how much damage he can output under good conditions
severe zephyr
Many such case- wait I thought you were saying his skill descriptions were verbose lol
dull wigeon
oh no I mean the like, comics character of magneto
all the skill descriptions are really verbose
but magneto is a character that marvel has gone through quite a few different iteratiosn of both to make him more interesting and also someone who could actually be a viewpoint character
I think having him be a holocaust survivor was really the turn into magneto being someone other than a cackling villain
hexed hearth
ok double-checked, and yeah, magneto did just make forcefields with magnetism back in the day
dull wigeon
Strange intruiges me because Big Shield but the rest of his kit is kinda ??? to me
oh also magneto's ult appeals to me at a basic level
dull wigeon
"giant ball of go fuck yourself" is easy to use, effective, and conceptually straightforward
sand kelp
iron man also has a version of that but magneto's is funnier
main parcel
Man I wish I could aim. It seems like it would be nice.
hexed hearth
Widow's ult is also basically the same
it has a smaller area, but she doesn't telegraph it as much
sand kelp
super tech nuke? lame. chucking a rock at the speed of get fucked? based and polaritypilled
sour forge
the actual insane thing with strange is that
you can just roll out the entire team
then swap
dull wigeon
oh also it schlorping up 800 damage worth of projectiles is pretty sweet
sour forge
which seems insane
dull wigeon
though I wish it auto fired on 800 instead of just cancelling
hexed hearth
the team gets there a few seconds earlier that way, but then it's a 5v6 while they wait for you to arrive
strange does have his share of "janky not-quite-optimal tech"
runic apex
also magento is probally better than iron man
sour forge
that is fair
hexed hearth
i mean yeah
sour forge
in overwatch with the sym rollout you also get to tp
hexed hearth
he can just rip apart his suit by looking at him
runic apex
ironman only really works in matchups where the team lacks any good shooters
hexed hearth
tbf there is a sort of a lack of hitscan for a shooter
Punisher, Hela, Hawkeye, Widow, Peni...i'm probably forgetting someone?
i don't remember if adam is hitscan
sand kelp
nope
dull wigeon
peni definitely isn't hitscan
hexed hearth
o
sand kelp
his shots have travel time iirc
dull wigeon
I don't think hela is either
hexed hearth
really? well she feels pretty close to it
dull wigeon
I think it's just punisher and widow who have hitscan attacks
hexed hearth
dang
sand kelp
starlord does too
runic apex
starlord probally does too
sand kelp
but he's shortrange so eh.
hexed hearth
ah yeah always forget him
runic apex
a lot of people play starlord wrong
they play him too much as a floaty annoince instead of a skirmishing jerk
sand kelp
they play him too much as a floaty annoince instead of a skirmishing jerk
starlord should be irritating, and so should spidey
he's supposed to hit and run, but like scout tf2 ppl need to get brave to do the Hit part
runic apex
ive got good starlord footage give me a moment
i feel like the devs mainly overrated flight
sand kelp
flight is very easy to make you a slow moving target
away from most visual obstruction
sand kelp
still a bit miffed that adam warlock doesn't at least hover, bc seeing this very, well, warlock-coded dude with a grandiose cape just walk everywhere annoys me slightly
runic apex
adam was one of the ones ive never herad of
Adam warlock,luna snow, magick, namor, and peni are all completely new to me
psylocke is a kinda wierd one
in that ive known who she is for quite a while but had never actully seen her
shes this wierd area where she gets mentioned in xmen games a lot
but just isnt actully in them
sand kelp
i knew adam from the gotg game and third movie. both of which are solid interpretations
runic apex
jeff i knew but not by name
i just knew him as deadpool's shark that he gave a knife to
was namor in anything recent?
hexed hearth
he's a fantastic four antivillain
runic apex
he feels like the most odd one they chose to me but it could just be me not knowing something
hexed hearth
and fantastic four just haven't been relevant for decades
he's definitely more relevant to marvel canon than cloak & dagger, at least
runic apex
namor just came off to me as the weakest pick from a personality standpoint
hexed hearth
fair
runic apex
cloak and dagger i think ahd something neat in one of the animated stuff
in game i do feel like namor's core stuff is kinda decent but his other ablties are lackluster
like the shield jump and the summons
i know how the suummons are supposed to work but their hp is so low
hexed hearth
they're not really supposed to just stick around dealing damage like a torbjorn turret
you place them as a distraction to draw enemy fire for a few seconds
runic apex
but then why does using the spear throw buff them for damage
sand kelp
was namor in anything recent?
namor was in wakanda forever and that was a pretty damn solid version of him from what i rember
visually, making him more mesoamerican was pretty inspired i think
dry roost
sand kelp
also giving namor more love is much appreciated bc he's marvel's first ever superhero character iirc. he predates cap by quite a bit and it's nice to see him get some spotlight
hexed hearth
you can get the requirements down a pretty fair amount with the pinned message
runic apex
has a marvel charcter ever gotten the mr freeze treatment?
they turned something bad into something completely diffrent into something beloved
ill admit because i don't really interact with live actoin stuff i miss marvel stuff since marvel's animated stuff isnt as good a lot o the time compared to dc
unless its spiderman or xmen
sand kelp
mr freeze was more mid than bad, though i think the question would be if they took an interpretation of the character that everyone from then on latches onto as the de facto version, and there's probably a few of those, though none that fit off the top of my head
runic apex
yeah they basicly just tossed everything abuot old freeze away
the ironman animated show where he was a kid was really good surpisingly
i def liked that version of rody and pepper more too than the movies
hexed hearth
they turned something bad into something completely diffrent into something belo...
well marvel is the same universe as it was in the 60s
they haven't had complete resets in the same way as DC
though Jessica Jones has become super different from her original portrayal
and there have been other characters with enormous changes while still being the same person
but they haven't done "completely different character who just has the same name"
actually, Human Torch is kinda the Dionysus of Marvel
he had been a standalone character with his own comics, then when they wanted to make the Fantastic Four, they retconned him to be a part of that group
runic apex
its more of what juobo said with the whole mr freeze stuff yeah human torch seems kinda simar of what i mean
hexed hearth
DC was able to have a new Clayface completely unrelated to the Clayface from decades ago, because their batman was unrelated to the batman from decades ago
if marvel introduced a new character named Juggernaut, everyone would just say "hey, why does this guy have the same name as that other Juggernaut dude we knew"
runic apex
well mr freeze is more like "we have deicded this is mr freeze now" and the old thing just doesnt matter to the point its probally never gonna return even as a refrence
runic apex
it woudl be like if say wolverin einstead of claws had metals arms and they just never used the claws again ever and acted like he never had claws
main parcel
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raven summit
Twitter
runic apex
yeah hes not good
thye really overrated constant flight
storm also has simlar issues but is even worse
silver helm
Yeah for a character whoโs mobility is so weird he needs a health buff
raven summit
I think he's fine.
hexed niche
Iron man does enough damage to be worth it imo
teal mist
Micro-Missiles doing.. functionally anything could be a cool buff
He can do a lot just Punisher/Hela are hard counters
Could easily see him as a 275 kinda guy, deserves to maybe be tougher than Starlord
fervent pulsar
Love hunting Iron Man as Iron Fist
lapis aspen
Jeff with the ice buff is kind of insane, just came out of a game where I was top of damage but with no less healing.
fervent pulsar
Neat
fervent pulsar
Twitter
was looking at this and read it out loud in the vc with my friend
he just responded with "It's Jeff the Landshark bro" without me even showing him the tweet ๐ญ
dense remnant
Why is everyone bullying Jeff? ๐ฆ
fervent pulsar
he's really annoying to play against
honestly having any healer, especially Jeff or Adam Warlock on the enemy team is a pain
last match i kept getting completely negated Adam Warlock kept reviving people
mild pine
I really should pick up rivals. Is it paid or free?
sand oracle
free
fervent pulsar
free
mild pine
free
sand oracle
All the healers feel so rough to play against, especially all the ones with either self heals or an escape tool
trying to dive luna snow feels nigh impossible
fervent pulsar
yeah
like i play Iron Fist
insane dps kinda guy
i CANNOT kill people being healed it's crazy
runic apex
jeff hasnt been to much trouble for me hes probally the most frail suppport
teal mist
Adam is just abundantly killable
mild pine
Contextless this chat is wonderful
runic apex
well if you do play people here can probally help you with stuff
fervent pulsar
I always target squishies as Iron Fist
Black Widow in particular is NOT allowed to exist within my perception
runic apex
black widow wierdly enough has good melee power
fervent pulsar
yeah i lost a melee duel with her once as Iron Fist
not my proudest moment i must admit
runic apex
i actully did a test and her quick melee is the strongest in the game
but the range is shorter
she actully beats several melee heros in dps
runic apex
the main noteworthy stuff is groot,sq,magik, namor and maybe venom gain dps by meleeing inbetween attacsk
fervent pulsar
interesting
mild pine
I'm gonna give it a go, learning and such
who's a good starter dude to try out?
clearly Loki >_>
runic apex
i recomend playing around a bite in practice range or ai fights
sand oracle
clearly Loki >_>
other than knowing how every other hero works, he's actually quite simple
just put doppelgangers on top of your team or in out of the way places and click on people
fervent pulsar
actually starting to get fucking pissed off at Scarlet Witch's ult
i literally do not get a fucking sound queue i just fucking die from nowhere
runic apex
loki i do think benefits from you knowing how to use all theo ther ults in the game
fervent pulsar
just spawn camped an enemy team for like 4 minutes
they did not get to move the point far
runic apex
i just had a role quete complaning rage quit my team for not doing 222
severe zephyr
I don't think 222 is even like... meta in this
teal mist
I don't want a role queue but also solo healing often sucks, it's tuff
fervent pulsar
i've had great success with 2 2 2
runic apex
i think 222 can have a bit of a dps issue honestly
teal mist
Especially when your two dps are trying to Spiderman into Peni Parker nests
severe zephyr
Twitter
runic apex
i had a jeff grab me 2 times in one game and failed to toss me over all 3 times
cause i could float was kinda funnty
both ults zero kills
severe zephyr
lmfao
runic apex
idk how winter soldier also didnt die
unless magnete can let allies float too
oh wait yeah just fist attack
fervent pulsar
i hate Psylocke so much
mild pine
I have been trying out Moon Knight
fervent pulsar
all Psylockes are my enemy
runic apex
his anks are key
mild pine
yeah I notice they reflect stuff
runic apex
i mainly just hate ironfist
lapis aspen
ironfist is very good at getting into backlines and killing me before DPS can respond and stop him
runic apex
hes just flat out overpowerd
severe zephyr
i mainly just hate ironfist
The Hand wrote this post
runic apex
i think i might have one o the best magentos on my team
runic apex
i pretty much just have winter currently for playing comp
i should try to play more peni and mantis
mild pine
I have realized if I can see people as moon knight I'm doing it wrong
teal mist
I feel like nobody on my team ever shoots the Peni Traps orz
teal mist
True
runic apex
i do shoot the deoployable
runic apex
oh that yeah people need ot destroy that
teal mist
I feel like. Her trap situation could be something other than Nigh Instant Death
There's so much rng to the mines
But then sometimes they do a full 600
runic apex
its basicly a turret
ok i just found somtehnig new
they require the web
so you can use webs to extend the trange
teal mist
Two Teamkilling Jeff Ults in a Row, golly
severe zephyr
wait Jeff eats allies?
unique storm
severe zephyr
lmfao
It cracks me up that people are calling him Jeff the Klan Shark
I love it when people hate cutesy characters
And he's such a pest
raven summit
It's so hard to kill him...
unique storm
He's this game's Teemo.
teal mist
Except he's also game-ending broken
dense remnant
I've been exclusively been playing Punisher in comp. Been on a losing streak there (shit's brutal), but I've been keeping up okay
Idk if I can handle the stress of playing support in comp
runic apex
ive been playing winter
ive gotten good at grabbing people then punching them towrds my team
teal mist
Wouldn't mind if the grappling hooks/grappling arm got a range indicator
runic apex
yeah you kinda gotta just feel for it
teal mist
Moon Knight's is like 10m, rough sometimes
also this game has weird distance scaling it does not seem like meters
dense remnant
I'd play Winter more, but I suck at consistently aiming with his gun
Similar problem I had playing Cassidy in OW
runic apex
i was very good at him to the point i played him as a counter to brig
during peak brig
teal mist
Also hilariously he can stop Thor mid-ult
runic apex
i noticed if your ult gets canceled during start up you get half back
runic apex
it happened to me once as scarlet
teal mist
Friendly Jeff stole my whole Psylocke Ult, had some Thor Ults get cancelled without refund.. there's something to it but i don't know what
some rule
dense remnant
Jeff can nom you mid-ult?
lapis aspen
yerp it's extremely funny to do it
teal mist
He caught the startup
unique storm
Oh yeah. It's insane.
teal mist
Hand was on the sword, it was going to be lovely T~T
lapis aspen
although probably not all alts? I think it'll take a while before we know for sure
Like it might not work on Venom? Or another Jeff?
severe zephyr
Except he's also game-ending broken
Low effort but
teal mist
It's hard for such a precious lad to be so sinister, a cruelty like none other
runic apex
i hate iron fist so much he is already a blight on comp
teal mist
I feel like if Iron Fist actually needed to parry something to get his enhanced attacks his 'drop on a support and instantly melt them' would drop off a little, but he is wild when going
I hope they don't bring the hammer down too hard and make him impossible for casualfolk
runic apex
nah he needs ot be hit hard
im 100% fine with him being unisable
hes basiclty a cheat charcter youfr friend made up
"i win cause i have goku"
severe zephyr
dread it, run from it, Doomfist Discourse still arrives
runic apex
doomfist was bad he just could one hit
teal mist
Iron First is more release Genji tier, seems
Can just sort of outmove and outkill everybody, but also this one gets temp hp
runic apex
hes more like release brig
except he cant heal allies
genji was never actully that strong
teal mist
I dropped off 'fore Bridget era, but it did sound grim
runic apex
iron fist has lock on, triple jump, a heal on damand ablity that overhheals, kills and assits also overheal, as does him blocking, not to mention blocking also makes his damage insane
severe zephyr
Yeah I agree that Iron Fist is basically similar to Brig but with no ally support in exchange for A tier mobility
runic apex
he has tank level health and sustain but is tiny
severe zephyr
Which is pretty fiendish
runic apex
like look at this range
teal mist
It makes Wolvie's survivability seem so sad
lapis aspen
the trick to being good at games is picking one character and only playing them no matter how bad it makes your team compisition
runic apex
i know your joking but im really bad at tank to the points its better being down a tank
ive actully had matches where i try tank then swap to non tank and then it shifts to us winning
lapis aspen
I've tried playing Tank and I have 0 idea what I'm doing when I do it
Playing Groot just feels like throwing walls down and at the end it says like "You blocked this much damage!"
fervent pulsar
It makes Wolvie's survivability seem *so sad*
the facty he doesn't have a heal is fucking criminal
teal mist
His whole kit feels lackluster tbqh
Rage does not give enough benefits for his actual abilities to be so.. muted
fervent pulsar
i love when me and my friend who are playing healer
do better than BOTH DPS
that Hawkeye had zero kills for more than half the game
velvet sinew
Hawkeye seems kinda bad ngl
velvet sinew
Maybe he's just high skill cap but I've not seen a good one
runic apex
i had a round hawkeye just kinda shut us down
lilac snow
like look at this range
Oh, so when he throws hands he really throws em, huh?
runic apex
theres a video earlier up about iron jfist chasing down ironman while hes flying only useing punches
#1314059912023769190 message
hexed hearth
"as a Jeff player, DPS is just so annoying. I heal my team then they just damage them again. It's like they completely negate everything I did."
this is what Jeff haters sound like
lapis aspen
the thing about is, if you just shoot Jeff instead of the people in front of him he can't heal anyone
When I play Jeff my worse matches are when people shoot me instead of the people in front of me and I die
surreal cipher
My hate for jeff exclusively lives in the ult. And maybe a little bit in the Groot-combo.
fervent pulsar
i simply hate Psylocke like any reasonable person
hexed hearth
Jeff on Groot is generally just bad
raven summit
I don't like his dive.
I feel some characters have some bits of their kit that are really awkward. Like Black Panther not being able to double jump.
hexed hearth
iron fist having 10x the survivability as wolverine feels pretty weird
runic apex
he has better sruvailt than some tanks
runic apex
he has 3 ways to get health back and overheal
asists/kills,blocking, and his heal on demand power
raven summit
I feel i don't use the self heal all that often.
runic apex
i ish more people would take advantge when i hook people
mild pine
who does the hook?
runic apex
winter
mild pine
oh neat
sour forge
it turns out if you make the roadhog function not immortal people are more okay with it
sand kelp
bucky not having a shotgun helps too
when you reel someone in you Have to hit them and you only get three good shots
mild pine
Sometimes I feel like what I need to do most is constantly attack my own ankh as moon knight because aiming at people is hard and having my ankh do it is easier
runic apex
one thing that is fun to do with bucky is to grab a tank then punch him into your team
if you have a team that actully takes advantagfe of it
sour forge
I actually can't tell if he can oneshot squishies or not with hook combo
runic apex
you need to grab shoot twice then use the punch i think
sour forge
yeah so there's an actual window to presumably do stuff
runic apex
actully not even 2 shots
ok so you need to grab>shoot>quickmleee>punch>shoot
if you get a headshot on the shoot you can just punch>shoot
severe zephyr
I think Thor and Iron Man are my favorite atm
fervent pulsar
i fucking destroyed the enemy team
severe zephyr
Storm is fun but she is nothing but an ult bot
fervent pulsar
yeah her kit is fucking awful
severe zephyr
She just needs way more damage I think
fervent pulsar
she needs something for sure
severe zephyr
Sheโs basically a support tier damage dealer but doesnโt have very good utility
But her ult fucking rules
runic apex
i thought by ult bot you meant as in ultbot for the enemy due to how easy she is to kill
severe zephyr
Lmfao
severe zephyr
i thought by ult bot you meant as in ultbot for the enemy due to how easy she is...
No I mean you hide in the corner barely contributing anything but a DPS aura and then you 4-6 K with your ulti
Rinse and repeat until you lose because youโre not good outside of your ult
dull wigeon
Sheโs basically a support tier damage dealer but doesnโt have very good utility
in general I think the fliers are way too squishy for their flight
and it doesn't offer enough utility
severe zephyr
I think itโs OK for iron man
He can get weird fast flanks really well and his kit lets him play corners
dull wigeon
and for QM honestly whether you'll win is highly dependent on "did anyone pick a tank and healer"
yeah iron man has the mobility but if he takes hits he dies really fast
runic apex
idk why an iron man is trying to focus me down as punisher
dull wigeon
oh okay peni doesn't have a limit on deployed mines
sour forge
starlord is probably the best flier but it's clear he's not meant to actually spend that long in flight, he just uses it as ghetto tracer blink
dull wigeon
I had someone in ult set off a stack of mines and vanish
liked they just ceased existing
gone
severe zephyr
Reduced to atoms
severe zephyr
starlord is probably the best flier but it's clear he's not meant to actually sp...
Idk starlord feels more like an annoyance than a threat and iron man is a fucking threat ime
Heโs hard to play safe but his damage is really cranked
runic apex
starlord can be a htreat you just need to play him close instead of far like most people play him
severe zephyr
starlord can be a htreat you just need to play him close instead of far like mos...
I admit this is probably colored but playing Thor a lot into him
dull wigeon
I still don't really get her kit beyond "webs good" and "mines good"
severe zephyr
So I can just beat his ass up close
sour forge
yeah he's dogshit into actual meat-tanks because he just doesn't have the sustained dps or... sustain to stick around
but you can cook the backline pretty reliably
dull wigeon
until he eats a punisher shotgun and explodes
sour forge
in general if anyone has any kind of heal or sustain on them though I just kind of give up on damaging them
sour forge
maybe this is just from the perspective of someone who mostly played starlord and psylocke though since they don't really have an actual burst damage option
if you have a hydrogen bomb for an m1 like punisher that probably makes tankbusting a lot easier
dull wigeon
his shotgun is so cracked
don't get me wrong the rifle does disgusting things too on headshot
but he can one mag thor with the shotgun
also the shotgun can headshot
sour forge
as all good shotguns should
severe zephyr
Yeah that shotgun is grody
sour forge
gooshing people as reaper is one of the finest things you can do in overwatch
getting a big red hitmarker the size of a small dyson sphere
runic apex
i had two people in my comp match talk about how they have never played the hero they are playing
sour forge
based
severe zephyr
Real asf
dull wigeon
punisher shotgun also has the issue where the reticle lies to you
and it's actually going to score meatshots at quite a bit farther than the reticle would have you believe
but yeah his shotgun will five shot meatshot thor, three if you somehow get meatshot headshots
dull wigeon
that's dumping the mag
sour forge
oh thank god lmfao
dull wigeon
to give a good illustration of pellet distribution
sour forge
I was gonna say no wonder
I think they should've made it a deterministic skull spread like the pk though
dull wigeon
normal is 14 pellets
ok maybe my aim as punisher just sucks
because he can one-mag tanks assuming consistent headshots
sour forge
woaw (based based based based based based based based)
severe zephyr
Yeah Soldier 74 is a big aim guy
dull wigeon
cyan did you pick 74 because that's when the punisher's first appearance was?
also his lore story is.....ok it's bad
but it's a very appropriate level of bad
the rapid oscillation between Edge and 80s action movie dialogue is a treat
sour forge
when you say "consistent headshots" do you mean you have to barrel stuff them in the head
or is it reaper style "ehhh one pellet tickled their ear we'll make it a red hitmarker for you"
runic apex
we somehow won despite being down someone the entire game
sour forge
gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap gap
fallow stump
I feel.like very little play magik
When she goes kinda hard as hell
I had one match in particular where someone went magik cus of me but when I beat them in the magik 1v1 they switched back lol
Also iron man thinking he's safe
fallow stump
Iron man thinking they're safe from my magik but I just shoot them with my sword thing
fervent pulsar
man thinks just cause he can fly i can't get at him
jokes on him
my fists are homing
i can triple jump
and my kick dash is capable of going up
nowhere is safe
fallow stump
I keep missing iron man just barely with the dash attack from magik
Also love magik. Big fucking sword is so fun
You can just dash in do a lot of shit and get out of there relatively well
dull wigeon
when you say "consistent headshots" do you mean you have to barrel stuff them in...
put most of the mag into the head
so stationary or otherwise cooperative target
fallow stump
Also loved someone complaining about my 4 kills 7 deaths on the first round then I locked in and ended up with like 19 kills and 13 deaths after the 3rd round. Or not kills but whatever that symbol means
sour forge
interesting
dull wigeon
his hs multiplier is pretty nutty
sour forge
I could goosh tanks pretty reliably as reaper but the difference in pov might actually make that harder
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dull wigeon
punisher dies a lot faster than reaper does at that range
not that the rifle bodyshots don't hit like a freight train but they're not nearly as lethal
honestly I don't use his turret that much
sour forge
yeah reaper's lifesteal and somehow having a smaller hitbox than frank "I am the width of a highway" punisher is pretty important
that and every other character in this game is melee range
dull wigeon
it hits like a bus but you have to deal with immobility and proctiles and all that stuff
sour forge
although weirdly some of them are not nearly as high dps as you'd think
dull wigeon
yeah reaper's lifesteal and somehow having a smaller hitbox than frank "I am the...
frank's proportions are very 90s
fallow stump
Also people don't like Jeff or find him hard to kill but he's like the easiest of the healing characters to kill
sour forge
introducing our guest modeller... rob liefeld
dull wigeon
he's actually really a great sendup to the 90s dark age
big ridiculous guns, absurdly muscled and proportioned like a gears of war character, dialogue that oscillates between edgy and action movie
fervent pulsar
i love how wide Wolverine is
dull wigeon
very different from Bernthal Frank but also very familiar imo
green junco
Jeff the shark has a big head
fervent pulsar
yes
runic apex
went into overtime
sand oracle
although weirdly some of them are not nearly as high dps as you'd think
hulk ๐
why does the incredible hulk punch like a wet sponge
fervent pulsar
wrong kind of Immortal
sand oracle
he only feels sorta immortal
fervent pulsar
they gave all the immortal damage juice to the Immortal Iron Fist
runic apex
his jump does lack a cooldown
runic apex
i think venom is honestly the best tank at being a tank
sand oracle
two healthbars stronk
runic apex
and strange is the best barrier tank
fervent pulsar
being able to just
sour forge
is big enough to block things
sand oracle
thor is secretly dps
sour forge
is pretty useful, it turns out
sand oracle
but I do love him
fervent pulsar
pop a second healthbar as Venom is so fucking funny
sand oracle
magentos vortex shield feels like it should last longer
runic apex
huh if your at diamond rank each team gets to ban a hero
sand oracle
idk what the ability is actually called but
runic apex
it feels like that doesnt matter compareed to strange's shield
dull wigeon
I really like fighting on points as peni
you get a setup going and god himself could not dislodge you
sour forge
yeah the problem is that magneto's shield is about the same size as a comically small towel a bullied kid from a 90s comedy movie would hold up in front of himself when he goes to the pool
he's BIG chilling
the rest of your team is not
sand oracle
tbh magneto kinda feels like why the typical hero shooter roles don't line up cleanly with the ones in rivals
because a lot of his kit is making your friends tanky
runic apex
i think the barriers could last a bit longer than they do
sour forge
magneto definitely feels like a sigma function so it's fine I think
he's not intended to primarily soak for his team with the barrier
that being strange's niche is fine, it's just that he kind of wins by default on that front
runic apex
20 min round
sour forge
really the main thing about magneto is that he has sig rock on crack
not quite the same ginormous hitbox but being able to spam a borderline hitscan stun at full charge is pretty insane
runic apex
i also did managed to get a 6kill with winter's ult
dull wigeon
I assume peni mines are less good once people start actually looking for them
but currently "people walk into minefields" gets me a lot of mileage
runic apex
sour forge
and of course "opponent doesn't walk into the area" is still its own kind of reward
dull wigeon
yeah
dull wigeon
and of course "opponent doesn't walk into the area" is still its own kind of rew...
yeah but it's a lot less funny than "opponent in ult steps on twelve bombs and vanishes"
sour forge
that's true
I do want to see it comboed with characters like winter though
because the thought of hooking someone through a minefield and then instantly dealing 80000000000000000000 damage to them is so fucking funny
surreal cipher
I really feel like Cap could use like...one more utility, or one more damage.
fervent pulsar
my friend got the best ability use i've seen in the game so far earlier
he put his Dr.Strange portal outside the enemy spawn
as soon as the match started four of them ran into it and immediately died
sour forge
tp griefing will never die
dull wigeon
the bait
surreal cipher
Oh, I saw some youtuber showing it off...apparently teamkilling your friends with strangeportal gives him ultcharge?
fervent pulsar
it was fucking PEAK
sour forge
yes it does
surreal cipher
Convinced his team to portal-jump, got 97% at roundstart.
sour forge
I bet if you swapped your entire team to tanks
you could get a full charge since you'd be doing more 'damage' since they have higher HP pools
surreal cipher
There's gotta be some maps that's worth it
hexed hearth
something a teammate suggested that I can't believe I didn't think of myself: using the AOE speed burst from Jeff's bubble to accelerate your team to the objective
mild pine
Been getting some MVP moments as Moon Knight
Doing alright! But golly most of it is me being out of sight and murdering folk
runic apex
ive been maining winter
mild pine
nice
runic apex
i kinda thought he looked slightly edgy
but he is actully less edgy looking than his movie version
mild pine
I'm trying to figure out what Moon Knight sounds like
cause he honestly has such a silly edgy voice
fervent pulsar
My friend has been getting mvp every single match we win as Peni
runic apex
i havent been getting it a ton but i still feel like im doing pretty well
i see mainly healers geting it
fervent pulsar
I crushed as Iron fist today with a 20/0 k/d and got MVP
Just had insane positioning and good healer access so i kept popping around killing people and going back to the team for heals
I've actually had a crazy amount of fun as Jeff as well
runic apex
jeff and groot is actully a good combo
on the final game of 3 groot actully blocked 100k damage
its kinda annoying how wierd rvials is about screenshots and recording forr a hero shooter
dull wigeon
My friend has been getting mvp every single match we win as Peni
she's so good because people walk into mines
"clearly there's nothing hiding in this web-boom"
fervent pulsar
It's very funny
fervent pulsar
Get his ass!!!
maiden radish
So I noticed that Black Panther has a separate animation for his quick melee compared to just his left click
Anyways despite being this ferocious looking rake it does less damage
raven summit
32 and 5 on Spidey!
round gazelle
Twitter
raven summit
My heart is racing lol.
mild pine
that's the real spidey right there
fervent pulsar
https://x.com/Luceniken_MKII/status/1865558256413769870
RUN SQUIRELL GIRL, GET OUT OF THERE NOW!
teal mist
Hulk tackling folks out of the sky is so damn fun, gahd
Give us more flyers specifically for more targets
teal mist
He can block time stopping
runic apex
he can block jeff time
teal mist
How much damage reduction does Wolverine's E even give compared to this absolute wall
runic apex
yes
fervent pulsar
That's insane
runic apex
they really decided just to make him broken in every away
teal mist
The other dive dps all sacrifice like something and this lad out here flying
sour forge
they made iron fist an actual asian one time and he immediately became S-tier
teal mist
Also he's Sf6 Jamie and this delights me
sour forge
WE'RE ๐ฃ๏ธ YELLOW ๐ฃ๏ธ NOT ๐ฃ๏ธ MELLOW ๐ฃ๏ธ
teal mist
And they did great with his outfit
Which is impressive because usually : uh
He has. A look.
runic apex
did pretty good as squirrle girl
raven summit
It should be known Netease help make this specific version of Iron Fist. He is their baby boi.
hexed hearth
I'm intrigued to see what they'll do with the custom game creator
right now the options seem pretty minimal, but it'll be pretty neat if they eventually add huge customization to characters like Overwatch had
adding basically a full scripting language to custom games was the one redeeming quality of late overwatch
hexed hearth
also it would be pretty funny if for April Fools or something they did a "comic accurate" mode
hulk and wolverine are fully impossible to kill
silent wren
Just tried my first few games and got lost af on the maps. Is there an empty map mode?
hexed hearth
what do you mean?
silent wren
like a way to just go into a map and wander, with no one else in it
severe zephyr
Just tried my first few games and got lost af on the maps. Is there an empty map...
I did coop vs AI with Iron Man to scout the maps
I don't know if there's a better way
hexed hearth
I'm pretty sure you can make your own private custom game
silent wren
I'll have to try that
sour forge
hulk and wolverine are fully impossible to kill
"yeah so uhh I selected Hulk in this game mode and then all of a sudden a minotaur appeared on my PC and installed seven terabytes worth of adware for this company named roxxon on it"
"anyone got any idea what's going on with that or"
runic apex
is there any x men besides storm wolverin eand psylocke
silent wren
Hasn't squirrel girl been an x-men before?
dull wigeon
is there any x men besides storm wolverin eand psylocke
in the game or in the marvel canon?
teal mist
I for sure thought they made her up for this game when they announced her
runic apex
kinda bothish
dull wigeon
there is a near-endless font of x-men in the marvel canon
silent wren
I for sure thought they made her up for this game when they announced her
wait they didn't create her for the game?
teal mist
2018 apparently
sour forge
something as cynical as k-pop mutant to try and appeal to koreans does sound like it was invented for a live-service video game, but no
raven summit
She's magic?
dull wigeon
In the game, Storm, Wolverine, Psylocke, Magik
teal mist
Oh right Magik
dull wigeon
Luna isn't x-men
iirc her powers are from exposure to a science doohickey
yeah she got stuck in a cold fusion reactor
runic apex
as someone does sometimes
sour forge
haven't we all been there
teal mist
Comics are always so optimistic about people stuck in things
raven summit
silent wren
just a normal tuesday at the cold fusion reactor smh
sour forge
stuck myself in a cyclotron the other day just to feel something
runic apex
im not even sure how you land one kill reguarlly
dull wigeon
haven't we all been there
when I got exposed to battery chemicals I was really hoping for electricity superpowers but all I got were caustic burns
sour forge
fuck it, I deuterated the opp
runic apex
i accidently got 2 kills once
dull wigeon
being able to deuterate people would be terrifying
"you have six hours to live make your peace"
silent wren
when I got exposed to battery chemicals I was really hoping for electricity supe...
Ah, see, you get electricity superpowers by sticking forks in sockets
that's how I got mine
next nebula
Its Mahvel bay-bee
So far I've been mostly playing rocket raccoon. Idk why they made him a healer but hes fun
sour forge
like eddie?
raven summit
Yes.
runic apex
i think venom might be the best tank tank
next nebula
Venom is fun
runic apex
the only tank i can play decently is peni
celest wadi
In the game, Storm, Wolverine, Psylocke, Magik
Wait, not Magneto? Oh right, mutant is different from X-Man.
sinful kraken
Is magik's Limbo Demon useful at all?
dull wigeon
Magneto is very much not an x-man
celest wadi
That's fair, I'm most familiar with the current era where he's on pretty good terms with them.
round gazelle
green junco
NOOOOOOO
severe zephyr
It's cool that move does like no damage
hexed hearth
yeah I get that they need to balance "highest HP in the game and really solid mobility"
but Hulk damage being so pitiful feels weird
green junco
Me watching iron fist beat the shit out of iron man 50 feet in the air
hexed hearth
who would deal more:
a punch from the being who has singlehandedly conquered planets and lifted literal mountains
OR
one acorn fired from a slingshot
green junco
Squirrel Girl never loses
runic apex
i feel like everyday we learn about some cursed iron fist mechnic
severe zephyr
I mean its fucking squirrel girl so this isn't weird
green junco
Unbeatable
severe zephyr
i feel like everyday we learn about some cursed iron fist mechnic
Iron fist is like if Ronin was top tier instead of mid and saved by janky mechanics
TF2 Ronin
severe zephyr
Yeah that's what I mean
Ronin isn't that good but has a fucked up block
Iron Fist is really good and has a fucked up block
dull wigeon
fair
lilac snow
In the game, Storm, Wolverine, Psylocke, Magik
Magneto and Scarlet Witch don't count? Huh
dull wigeon
neither of them are x-men aligned
severe zephyr
There's no way they don't add Cyclops
lilac snow
Oh I thought the question was mutants, not X-men
dull wigeon
I'm waiting on cyclops so I can roleplay ion
runic apex
i want gambit mainly cause i just like gambit
lilac snow
Oh, and TIL that since 2015 she hasn't been a mutant
runic apex
also im pretty sure all the charcters ive leaned towrds have some cc
winter,peni,squirrel, and mantis
runic apex
using winter to grab people and punch them away fro mtheir team is great
lilac snow
And since 2014, she hasn't been Magneto's biokid
Actually... that's a funny question, how many characters in the roster have never been part of the Avengers?
severe zephyr
I donโt think Peni has been an avenger
lilac snow
It's a chunk of the cast, but I think a minority
severe zephyr
Yeah
runic apex
guardians minus mantis,cloak and dagger,hela,loki,jeff, luna,magik, Squirrel girl,peni
severe zephyr
Jeff has been a west coast avenger if that counts
runic apex
i was going based on wikipedia page and he wasnt there so it could just be wrong
hexed hearth
how has Peni been an avenger??
lilac snow
I'm going through all the spinoff teams RN
runic apex
loki was in the avengers but i don't count disguises
hexed hearth
I still think it's wacky that Venom is an Avenger
"yeah, you ate a few dozen innocent people over the years, but you're marketable enough for us to overlook it."
dull wigeon
oh the list of "was an avenger" is really long and frequently silly
runic apex
theres diffrent versions of how violent venom is
also venom being 2 beings with varied control
hexed hearth
like, again: marvel's 616 is the same universe it always has been
lilac snow
Okay, my list is Adam Warlock, Groot, Hela, Luna Snow, Magik, Peni, Rocket, Star Lord
hexed hearth
the Eddie Brock and symbiote in the avengers are the same ones who did everything venom has done across every mainline spiderman comic
sour forge
i mean was it during one of the norman osborn avengers runs
i dont think those were particularly normal
hexed hearth
he's still in the team iirc
sour forge
in moderation language we call that "a missing stair"
hexed hearth
I remember seeing a page of Cap trying to convince him to join when he was reluctant to
lilac snow
Eddie Venom has had hero eras
hexed hearth
I know he's done good things over the years
runic apex
sandman was an avenger apprently too
hexed hearth
but there are still people in 616 whose tax dollars go towards a team with the guy who ate their parents
lilac snow
in moderation language we call that "a missing stair"
TBH I think less of a missing stair than Pym
sour forge
the american posting about tax dollars going to nefarious causes
sour forge
TBH I think less of a missing stair than Pym
looking forward to how badly things are gonna go wrong for Ultimate Ant-Man
lilac snow
There's also three Thors
hexed hearth
ok now my mind has gone down the rabbit hole of what politics would be like in 616 and I kinda want to see an issue exploring that
sour forge
you absolutely do not want to see the mode, mean or even median marvel writer attempting politics ๐
hexed hearth
Senator Smith voted to give your taxpayer money to SHIELD...One Shield helicarrier alone spends $5 million dollars every minute in fuel to stay airborne.
lilac snow
That sounds accurate
hexed hearth
I don't want anything remotely allegorical to real life
I just want some acknowledgement of the insane logistics of the superhero stuff
though I suppose Damage Control is exactly that
lilac snow
Well, it'd be accurate if it was fuel + maintenance time + parts
looks at the leak/rumor names
sour forge
leak... hatsune miku confirmed???
dull wigeon
hatsune miku? from fortnite?
lilac snow
||Avengers among the leak names: Blade, Ultron, Cpt Marvel, Deadpool, and the entire F4||
||Non-avengers: Angela, Jean Grey, Emma Frost||
||Citation needed: Hit-Monkey||
dense remnant
I think Cap might be the tank for me
hexed hearth
I think ||Ultron|| as support is basically confirmed
dense remnant
I need ||Deadpool and HitMonkey||
lilac snow
I think ||Ultron|| as support is basically confirmed
It's an extensive leak but technically still unofficial
||Okay, it looks like Hit-Monkey was not a Pet Avenger despite the Wikipedia infobox, but he was a Howling Commando||
Oh also I wanna shout out that Doom was never an avenger but a Doombot was
Like, as a Doombot, not in disguise as Doom
velvet sinew
Oh also I wanna shout out that Doom was never an avenger but a Doombot was
A comic where a Doombot becomes a person, pleaes, I need this
lilac snow
Avengers A.I., ran 12 issues from July 2013-April 2014
velvet sinew
well shti I wasn't expecting an actual ansewr
lmao
I was just like "man that'd be cool"
lilac snow
Also appeared in a decent chunk of Runaways vol 5
dense remnant
I wish the game leaned more into Moon Knight being plural
sand kelp
yeah, like. i understand it's probably for clarity's sake but also it would be really fun if moon knight had three different sets of slightly different mannerisms and inflections
no idea how you'd implement that in a reasonable manner but it would be a very fun detail to work w
a less complicated way of doing it would just be having him at least mention it in conversation, but it would require a writer who doesn't just assume that DID = crazy or zany. granted, moon knight is definitely unhinged regardless, but you'd need a writer to make that distinction
dull wigeon
no idea how you'd implement that in a reasonable manner but it would be a very f...
Random voice lines with three different "themes" would probably be the easiest
sand kelp
that's what i was thinking tbh
dull wigeon
Y'know whats kinda funny? Until recently this depiction of the punisher would have been the most heavily armed I think he's ever been
And then marvel gave him the fucking war machine suit in a fairly recent run
sand kelp
i think making frank a gears of war character is objectively the funniest decision they could have made to implement him in this game
dull wigeon
Yeah its really funny though actually in line with his presentation in the 90s
God the 90s sure was a time wasn't it
Also ngl I'm not...thrilled at how many duelists there are
There's more duelists than non-duelists combined
sand kelp
more non-duelist roles would be appreciated yah
velvet sinew
I'm wondering if they'll actually restrict having X roles on team or not
I haven't touched ranked yet so they might do it there
velvet sinew
Yeah, I'm hoping this game doesn't go the common route of players thining supporting is like, the bitch role
sand kelp
on one hand, being able to have freedom over your team comp is nice
on the other, sometimes people are a little stupid and don't know how to coordinate without being forced to
dull wigeon
It does mean that being good at tanks is a path to easy wins
Since not every match will have a tank or a good tank player
velvet sinew
I'm basically a squirrel girl one trick at this point
dull wigeon
Also god groot is
velvet sinew
stronk
dull wigeon
Very easy to mess up your team with
Really good map control but walls work both ways
velvet sinew
If I ever turned on VC
It would be to say "I AM GROOT" over and over again
Also, fuckin, destructible terrain my beloved
dull wigeon
I'm leaning towards peni both because she seems to click for me and also because "you have stepped into the Mine Pit, goodbye" greatly amuses me
sand kelp
Yeah, I'm hoping this game doesn't go the common route of players thining suppor...
maybe this is me in my sample size of "can't aim, can't get kills, don't trust team for a high degree of coordination" land, but the supports in this game are fucking Busted in the right hands
velvet sinew
I was more talkign about just like, socially
Competitive games often make a certain class of gamer be like "Support? Nah."
dull wigeon
I'm leaning towards peni both because she seems to click for me and also because...
Venoms in particular tend to get splattered this way
velvet sinew
and sometimes that class is very big
dull wigeon
which makes sense, venom is an all in dive tank
But man is it funny when they just get exploded
velvet sinew
I want to get better at spidey
because hook hijinks are delightful
like yeah lemme just swing off the map and hook someone into the death pit
sand kelp
I'm leaning towards peni both because she seems to click for me and also because...
welcome back demoman tf2
dense remnant
I get easier kills with Mags, but Cap has a more fun kit for me
dull wigeon
actually yknow whats really funny
dagger in rivals has a tamer costume than she does in the comics
sand kelp
i believe it
rivals has Some gratuitous sex appeal but not a lot, tbh. maybe that'll change with time, and i do begrudge some of its inclusion, but they're adapting comic books, which are notorious for having at most three types of costuming and maybe two and a half body types
velvet sinew
I can't say I consider any of the Rivals designs gratuitous, personally?
Like, Psylocke has a skin that I think is maybe the worst, and that's pretty tame imo
sand kelp
it's more just me bemoaning boob armor and all of the girls having one body type, but that's nitpicking considering the premise
that psylocke costume is actually my favorite one of hers bc it's a pretty clean design, maybe three major colors total, with simple shapes and designs. i like her base design but the uncanny alt just appeals to me more
sand kelp
tbh, yeah. i want to see carol with some bulk on her, it'd be a fun idea
like, i recognize i'm being a stick in the mud about very well-established design conventions, but i'm only bitching bc i just would like to see different body types if for no other reason than silhouetting
velvet sinew
I mean, that's fair. I want more variety in the comics themselves, too.
sand kelp
yeah, but what i want isn't what everyone else wants, and i'm fine w making some concessions.
rivals' designs aside from maybe one or two of them are actually pretty tame and slickly designed
velvet sinew
squirrel girl my thicc darling
compact brook
i finally figured out Thors F ability and lemme tell ya its great, sad you cant use this other abilities for shield but great nonetheless
proper gyro
teal mist
Getting the hang of Hulk is so goddamn fun
wanton salmon
put night thrasher in
sand oracle
Also appeared in a decent chunk of Runaways vol 5
runaways my goat
fallow stump
I'll be waiting for people to realise how fun magik is so I can be part of the magik conversation :3
jade flame
can say from my first night of playing that Groot and Thor are a lot of fun
Groot walls are very silly
love seeing the endgame scoreboard showing ive taken over 10k damage it makes me feel strong
hexed niche
I was watching the TBSkyen video on the character designers of this game
And now Iโm kinda wondering if the grey talon captain america skin is meant to be US Agent
Heโs got the US agent brown and red color scheme and looks a lot more menacing and aggressive then base cap
fervent pulsar
you can get surprisingly good damage as Jeff
i mean i can't aim for shit unfortunately so i don't get great kills but you definitely can
hexed hearth
you can, but only in the sense that every hero in the game has really good damage
I'm pretty sure Jeff still has the lowest DPS of any non-tank
hexed hearth
there just isn't a universe where healing is toxic
runic apex
jeff is at most annoying sometimes to me
cause of the bury move
but thats his only counter move to being hunted, unlike luna and mantis's cc
hexed hearth
yeah
runic apex
and adam's decent charge attack
fervent pulsar
aight daily missions complete
thankfully my challenges rn are really easy to do
two 50 kills missions which just happens naturally
hexed hearth
the ult is the one thing in his kit you could argue is somewhat "toxic", since it can get team kills in a way that's pretty hard to play around
fervent pulsar
and 25000 healing which i can just play Jeff for
runic apex
if i were to adjust his ult id say make the attack part slower
teal mist
I think it's silly you can't stun Jeff out of his travel form, if you manage to hit the tiny fin y'should at least get it
lapis aspen
the ult is the one thing in his kit you could argue is somewhat "toxic", since i...
It's pretty hard to get a team kill with it
hexed hearth
well, majority-of-team kill
sand kelp
enough to make any non-flier run from a choke in panic
lapis aspen
Idk, It just seems like something that punishes close spacing so just don't do that
it's not the only ult which punishes close spacing either
teal mist
It's too fast and too large imo, Scarlet has to charge all vulnerable-like into the center stage
While jeff can just Get People Off The Cart in an instant
runic apex
its too fast and large yeah
teal mist
also it's just not really fun or interactive to fight against
runic apex
ive had times where i used a dash ablit ythe moment i saw it
teal mist
'here, enjoy the next 9 seconds of watching yourself die'
runic apex
still got grabbed even though it looked like i was out if it
hexed niche
https://fixupx.com/daily_fg_music/status/1305521343702728704?s=46&t=fIUfY3FiRXkmKVbIBdHHIw
the song that plays when you hear โASSEMBLE!โ
runic apex
finally an easy one
fervent pulsar
yeah thankfully
fallow stump
finally an easy one
Just gotta find the one in a million magik player
Idk maybe people are playing her more for yall but I barely see her
runic apex
i feel like she could use a bit more survieablity for a melee charcter
fallow stump
My best was like a 20 player killstreak but it counted as 2 streaks of 10 cus it was over the course of 2 rounds
runic apex
my best is 18 with winter
fallow stump
I feel like she's fine cus you get a lot of ways to avoid damage and you get health on hit.
teal mist
I swear Magik thrives the more chaotic a fight gets, such cleave on those abilities
fallow stump
You can also easily get in and out of troubke
fallow stump
I swear Magik thrives the more chaotic a fight gets, such *cleave* on those abil...
One of my nagik highlights was me going into the entire enemy team and just going ham on them
runic apex
i also feel her uppercut could maybe use some tracking
not heavy tracking just a little
fallow stump
Make the hit thingy for it wider a little bit so I don't dash past my enemies as much.
runic apex
or that
fallow stump
I don't think it should get tracking
runic apex
just something to make less wierd
fallow stump
Yeah
runic apex
also is the grimlin ever useful?
fallow stump
I wanna say her ult feels a little weaker than I'd like but I think I'm wrong.
fallow stump
also is the grimlin ever useful?
I ask myself that too
I'm trying to figure out uses for it but like
???
Like it'd be nice for more single target forward fovusssed damage but like just walk away from it and it doesn't damage you anymore
Unless it follows then it might be peak
severe zephyr
The gremlin seems useless to me
But Iโve never played Magic
Iโve just never really been threatened by it
runic apex
i was a mence just now against the supports as pnathern
fervent pulsar
i tend to hard focus supporters when possible as Iron Fist
velvet sinew
indeed
runic apex
its like 100
velvet sinew
You could buy the next season's battlepass with the currency you earned there
runic apex
anyone want to just quickly do the team up ones?
runic apex
thanks
fervent pulsar
np
fervent pulsar
?
runic apex
someone breathing on their mic thne someone else doing it on purpose
fervent pulsar
np
dense remnant
Would this be a Spidey or Moon Knight skin? ๐ค
runic apex
spidy
runic apex
I ask myself that too
i did a thing
the gremlin is actully kinda useful against tnaks
runic apex
the loki firing squad is fun
fallow stump
She goes so hard
Before today my best was 19-3 with magik
Now it's I think 28-5 with magik
She's just good
Idk why more people dont play her.
fervent pulsar
i tried her but i didn't really get what to do with her kit
fallow stump
the gremlin is actully kinda useful against tnaks
Ooh
fervent pulsar
i'd need more practice
fallow stump
i tried her but i didn't really get what to do with her kit
Rushdown character that stays alive easily in combat.
fallow stump
And then you can get out of combat just as easily.
fervent pulsar
kinda got popped constantly trying to figure it out
tbf i main Iron Fist so i'm used to more mobility
fallow stump
I single handedly got this magneto down to very little health and then he started to run
fervent pulsar
also the ability to block literally every single attack in the game including ultimates
does help somewhat with survival
omnidirectional temporary invuln is kinda good
runic apex
you can melee inbetween attacks for more damage with magik
fallow stump
I also learned that the melee button for melee character does different attack then the primary attack
Magiks melee attack is a quick hit with like the handle of her sword.
runic apex
only some charcters though
fervent pulsar
does Iron Fist have something like that?
fallow stump
Idk
runic apex
no
fallow stump
I only played magik and black widow so far.
fallow stump
Iron fist does seem like a little too strong but idk I haven't fought them enough to know how to deal with them
runic apex
this is the quick melee to kill the training bots
and if anyone has some wierd benefit
fervent pulsar
Iron fist does seem like a little too strong but idk I haven't fought them enoug...
he's very strong
like i said
his shield for instance blocks everything
runic apex
best charcther in the game handsdown