#Mahvel Rivals baby

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fervent pulsar
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I feel like they did ye

teal mist
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Especially with the amount of heroes that just absolutely murder them

fervent pulsar
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It'snot that helpful when everyobe has movement

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I've pulled enemies out of the sky as Wolverine

teal mist
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Flyers are just free points for Punisher and Hela

fervent pulsar
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And just straight up hunted Iron Man as Iron Fist

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He's basically free

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Iron Fist can absolutely just fuck flyers up

runic apex
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yeah im playing iron man right now feels f teir just like storm

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they are good in exacrtly one moment

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if nobody is playing a single ranged hero

teal mist
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iron man can abuse angles at least with his aoe

unique storm
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Also I can't believe Hawkeye is just concept Hanzo, before he was split into Hanzo and Genji.

runic apex
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tried strange did ok

fervent pulsar
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i love just

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hunting Iron Man into the sky as Iron Fist

green junco
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Throw a bunch of psi shruikens at him and then double dash up to finish it Genji style

fervent pulsar
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tried Peni

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didn't like her

runic apex
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ok i just kinda rocked with mantis in supporting our starlord

green junco
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I like Peni when I play her as an off tank

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Or on defense

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Toss her generator down in a secluded area and hold it to avoid people running at you

fervent pulsar
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was looking for an offense kind of tank and she is not that

green junco
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Keep spamming mines

runic apex
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she can be useful on payloud defense

fervent pulsar
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i'm very much someone who fucking runs headfirst into battle

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so she does not work for me at all

sand oracle
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but yeah you want to have a good place to stick the nest and then you just play around it

fervent pulsar
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yeah not my style

sand oracle
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I think thor is about as divey a hero as you can get

runic apex
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ive almost tried every hero

sand oracle
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because venom is just kinda awful

runic apex
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venom is good just hard to use

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ive run into some horrifying;y good ones

fervent pulsar
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i do not like venom at all

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he was not fun to play

sand oracle
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I think you also really need a support imo

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thor can just carry himself

fervent pulsar
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yeah

sand oracle
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also it does, technically. if they cross the border it does a bit of damage and slows

fervent pulsar
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yeah i still just

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don't really get this game very well

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i keep alternating hard between getting fucking curbstomped and actually doing well

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literally no idea why

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alternating between ripping through an entire team like a hot knife through butter and being unable to get a single kill

runic apex
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panther feels wierd

maiden radish
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Panther is weird

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I don't really get what the fantasy is

runic apex
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his kit feels like two kits slapped together

dense remnant
runic apex
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panther needs more dash charges

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we barely won show

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also doing dmaage at low hp isnt a good trait to have

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i think i just have bruce left

fervent pulsar
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also FYI twitch drops are available atm

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the one i already unlocked is 30 mins of watch time

runic apex
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the final hero bruce banner

severe zephyr
fervent pulsar
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LMAO

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it's so fucking true

runic apex
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thats every hero done now

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actully kinda liked bruce wierdly enough

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the charged spam lacks a cooldown

fervent pulsar
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with these twitch drops i'll be one step closer to getting the achievement thing for having 5 skins

runic apex
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so the heros i enjoyed the most were, for vnaguard peni and bruce,(strange and thor might get a another try later). for strat loki and luna. for duelist hawkeye, psylock,scarlet,starlord,winter,namor and moon magick i didnt do good with but i kinda want to learn her

maiden radish
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I really like Thor

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He's kinda just a bulky DPS but I like that

fervent pulsar
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i fuck with Thor, Wolverine and Iron Fist

unique storm
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My only complaint is they only have tutorials for like eight heroes.

fervent pulsar
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yeah

runic apex
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i don't think it matters too much with the training area

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theres probally a few people here that probaly have a few favorites they can teach as well

velvet sinew
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I played the shit out of spiderman

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very very fun

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Difficult but fun

runic apex
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spiderman/venom is probally the two hardest to paly

velvet sinew
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The web-swinging is so like

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It's fun once you get it down

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But you're gonna die a lot by just fuckin yeeting yourself into pits

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But that moment when you swing up behind a team and yoink Rocket off of Groot's back and uppercut him in the air

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priceless

runic apex
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namor is wierd iin that im not sure if he hs actully weak but i find alot of his ablities lack luster ina way i kinda want to see them changed

fervent pulsar
runic apex
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he can jump and have a shield for a few seconds, summon mions that die fast, and have really good spears

fervent pulsar
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gonna go steal one of your squishies

runic apex
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it felt he was kinda carried by his spears and ult

fervent pulsar
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you will not be getting them back

velvet sinew
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I need to give wolverine a try

fervent pulsar
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he's fun

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but a bit weak

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he needs a severe damage boost

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atm he's basically working best as an assassin i find

velvet sinew
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I do love assassins

runic apex
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also one thing ifeel the devs did is really overrate flight

silver helm
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yeah flying characters need to be faster and sharper with their movement

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people can in fact look up at the iron man damaging half the team

runic apex
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bot hstorm and ironman kinda also have slow projectiles too

fervent pulsar
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my favourite passtime in the game is just fucking flying up at Iron Man players trying to do anything while playing Iron Fist

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POV you are Iron Man trying to escape me while i'm playing Iron Fist:

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flying means NOTHING i have triple jump and homing fists, you are not escaping

silver helm
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yeah they need to buff flier health, speed, and sharpness so that all the "GET DOWN FROM THERE" abilities, and iron fist triplejumping, and faster projectiles, and more don't obliterate fliers

teal mist
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Yeah like, did Hawkeye need a flying-cancel projectile, he already can just.. shoot them

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If there's a Hela Widow or Punisher they just Cannot Exist

maiden radish
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Yeah agreed flying characters are just ugh

runic apex
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i fele like magic's upercut could ues some tracking

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not a lot

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just a little

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ok yeah magick feels like this needsa bit more

runic apex
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honestly wolvrine is probally gonna loes that fight

fervent pulsar
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Sadly yeah

runic apex
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solder still feels good

potent adder
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Moon Knight is busted lol

dry roost
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what does random bs man do

potent adder
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I went 30 and 3 with him the first game I played him

potent adder
dry roost
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mmm

potent adder
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With everything

fervent pulsar
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Dracula owes him money

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and by Khonshu's very own fist, is he going to fucking collect

potent adder
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His boomerangs bounce between people and he can bounce them off ankhs which can bounce to other ankhs which can bounce between people to ankhs

potent adder
fervent pulsar
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it's based as hell

runic apex
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i dont think he is broken just people havent learned the anks yet

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he loses a lot o fpower if you destro yhem

dry roost
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downloading mahvel rivals now

ill find out which hero i like
1-2 hours from now

raven summit
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Psylocke's primary is really hard to hit.

velvet sinew
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god, squirrel girl is so fun

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junkrat vibes

severe zephyr
hexed hearth
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uuh

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i got a daily mission to spray 2 times

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but there is no button to spray anywhere in any of the keyboard settings

fervent pulsar
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hold t

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it's the customizable wheel you wanna pull up

hexed hearth
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aah

fervent pulsar
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it works for both emotes and sprays

dense remnant
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Khonshu is my co-pilot

fervent pulsar
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Khonshu in your ear telling you to crush their windpipe

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Me, i have Shou Lao the Immortal telling me sick nasty martial art tips

green junco
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Moon Knight is the one other person that Taskmaster has stated he would never attempt to copy, besides Deadpool

sour forge
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psylocke is for glue eaters bruh there's no way this character is marked five stars

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I just run at people with a shotgun and spam l and r click til people die

velvet sinew
dense remnant
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Average queue with Punisher & Moon Knight

hexed hearth
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wh...huh??

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because they're both tanks who are melee-only, i guess?

teal mist
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Hulk is hard to correlate

velvet sinew
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Hulk is just D.va who doesn't explode

runic apex
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hulk is closest to winston honestly

dense remnant
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God, I want Ghost Rider

unique storm
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I want War Machine, and Deadpool. Mad restraint to not put Wade in season 0.

sand kelp
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since blade is speculated i wonder how deadpool would play differently from other gun and/or sword characters

silver helm
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teleporting by going around the fourth wall

sand kelp
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real, tbh

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also i have been playing supports almost exclusively (since i hold no trust in my team's ability to not die) and i gotta say

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Cloak and Dagger Good

unique storm
silver helm
teal mist
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Rocket and Loki.. <3

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Finally, healers with fun kits T-T

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I feel like a lot of Loki power is folks not knowing what's going on though, noticing a lot more people actually destroy my healrocks

velvet sinew
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Well

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now that Marvel Rivals has re-ignited my enjoyment of marvel media in a certain way

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Time to catch up on everything I haven't seen

velvet sinew
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Oh my god Luna is incredibly fun

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popping ult feels really good

teal mist
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Luna and Mantis feel a lot more in line with healfolk

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In the beta she was kinda wild

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They gave all their power to Jeff though feels like

velvet sinew
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I still need to play Jeff

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and also Groot

lapis aspen
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Does anyone have any tips for playing Jeff, I've been trying to like put healing spots around points and stuff but during actual fire fights no one uses them?
Is it even worth actually doing that, or is it more valuable to shoot them during a firefight?

severe zephyr
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โ–ถ Play video
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Just keep doing this Iโ€™m sure it will work out

wanton salmon
raven summit
sand oracle
fervent pulsar
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how the fuck people already doing this shit

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i haven't even unlocked comp yet ๐Ÿ˜ญ

sand oracle
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also his ult is just kinda nutso

teal mist
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What if Any Ult is so powerful and so fun to choose

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Teammate or Enemy was a great choice

runic apex
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when i played loki i played him more like a ranged fireing squad

fervent pulsar
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trynna get kills when the enemies have a healer on them is such a hassle

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just pulling up on someone, completely dominate, and then be unable to get the confirm cause their healer is healing them quicker than you are killing them

runic apex
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i actully think solo healing isnt that bad in this game

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depending on who your playing and the map

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adam and jeff feel like they can probally solo heal pretty decently

fervent pulsar
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yeah

runic apex
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rocket is kinda wierd i feel he is kinda weak honestly

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unless you have punisher/solder/groot

wanton salmon
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i like holding charges and being able to pocket tank

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drop all charges infront of a squishy person, become invisible, walk back a little

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now they have to tunnel through lokis while you shoot them

dense remnant
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Been settling on Punisher & Mantis, so far

fervent pulsar
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been crushing it as Iron Fist

wanton salmon
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i only played like an hour last night lmao

runic apex
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winter solider is my fav

fervent pulsar
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who has shields

runic apex
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strange,magneta,and cap

fervent pulsar
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ic ic

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i'll try strange

runic apex
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oh and hulk does too for a short while

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but those 3 are the rightclikc to use ones

fervent pulsar
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yeah

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i need to block damage with shields

teal mist
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I like Magneto but also wouldn't be surprised if he got a bit of a boost

wanton salmon
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caps is more self shield, theres a few other self shielders too

teal mist
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Also Hovering with no mobility option?

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On Magneto?

wanton salmon
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magnetos classic swords and halo

teal mist
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Ult is fun on a counterpush though

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Could maybe have a higher damage threshold

runic apex
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i had a fun moment with rocket and winter where i just dumped arounds nito something

teal mist
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love when randoms remember to use teamups

runic apex
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the strange/hulk one is dectnly strong

teal mist
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People never seem to expect Strange Burst

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But he can really pop 250hp

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Also portal has some interactions

fervent pulsar
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ok nice

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got the jeff ult achievement

runic apex
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i think the portal will get nerfed at some point

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its just too early for people to break the game with it yet

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but its range is insane

dense remnant
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Got the Mantis team wipe achievement ๐Ÿ™‚

fervent pulsar
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damn

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didn't manage to 1v1 a storm

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feelsbadman

teal mist
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Portal feels like his real Ult

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Agamotto range feels piddly

fervent pulsar
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grinding out the daily quest stuff atm

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gonna go for assissts with Rocket Racoon

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he seems the most fun to me

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yoooo

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groot teamup

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i am now a turret

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lets go

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ok i'm actually

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really liking rocket?

dense remnant
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Was it me or is Rocket's gun a little weak?

fervent pulsar
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i mean

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i felt like i was melting enemies

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just low ammo

teal mist
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it's got a lot of falloff now, but up close it can eat folks

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Also being on Groot's shoulder leaves you in handy tank-headshot range

fervent pulsar
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yup

teal mist
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spread makes hitting Mantis and Luna... not ideal

runic apex
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also it makes it really easy to heal groot so much that he becomres even more tanky

wanton salmon
fervent pulsar
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what counts as an assisst in this game

dense remnant
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I appreciate that heals & buffs count in as assists in this game

runic apex
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manti's buff makes geting assist easy

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i had am atch where starlord and my highlight were basicly the same highlight

fervent pulsar
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maybe i should try playing her for the assisst

runic apex
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she gets assist points for when ever ally damages someone while under the damage buff

fervent pulsar
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noooo not the Iron Fist flank ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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ok got the assissts

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going to go for shields now

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Strange is kinda cool ngl

fervent pulsar
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yeaaaaah

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that mission looks like it fucking sucks

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definitely doing that one against bots

runic apex
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i think tis worse than the sotrm/cap one

fervent pulsar
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it easily is

runic apex
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cause the armor thing isnt very strong

teal mist
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The armor thing seems more for survivability than killing

fervent pulsar
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yeah

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definitely a bot mission thing

dense remnant
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Anything can kill if youre not a coward

fervent pulsar
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the map specific challenges are kind of annoying also ngl

runic apex
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ok i think spriqwlq girl needs aoe buffs

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the hitbox on her projectiles are microscopic

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also yeah if still sucks to fight against

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also her ult is trash teir

raven summit
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It's funny, but I had a few games where the healers have the most kills. Everyone can do decent damage.

fervent pulsar
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yah

potent adder
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Captain America is such a psychotic character to play I think there has never been a more divey dive tank

severe zephyr
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I, Captain America, promise I will never stop going in

runic apex
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id say hulk

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hulk can just spam the jump

fervent pulsar
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just launching myself at anything that fucking moves as Iron Fist feels fucking psychotic as well

potent adder
fervent pulsar
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especially when it's fliers

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just like, aerial fisticuffs

runic apex
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yeah idk why they thought iron fist was fine

potent adder
fervent pulsar
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yeah

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i love hunting Iron Man

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when i can

potent adder
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A good iron Fist using his movement to keep up with storms flight is legendary

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And iron man yeah

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I like iron Fist but I might be bias

fervent pulsar
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he's my main

potent adder
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One of mine too

fervent pulsar
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i would play Wolverine over him but he's kinda dinky damage wise

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and, in an absolutely criminal act of game design, has no self heal

potent adder
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Are we playing the same wolverine

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I mean yeah maybe he should have a self heal button but the rage making his heeling kick in when he hits 0 hp is pretty sick

runic apex
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did good with squirrel girl that time

fervent pulsar
runic apex
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he hasl low hp, and not a way to sacpe

fervent pulsar
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sometimes i can keep the sustain on battles but like

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if i do a 1v1 and expend everything i'm going to have to go look for a healing item or a healer on my team

raven summit
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I've yet yo master the aerial maneuverability with Iron Fist.

runic apex
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psylock is hard to play

raven summit
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I think the main issue is my aim is bad.

runic apex
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yeah i think for healers mantis is the one i like the most

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can buff attack and heal

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and has a useful weapo

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rewards accucy

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ok blank panther is actully good

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you just need ot be a god with him apprently

hexed niche
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EASY GAME FOR BABIES

runic apex
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yeah iron fist is entirely broken

fervent pulsar
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THAT'S MY GOAT, IMMORTAL TIME

main parcel
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Is it just me, or are the delivery points on the payload kind of "nothing"? Like on Tokyo you go around a wall and up a ramp to a hallway, and that's it, you don't even go down the hallway. I straight-up lost a round because I backed up off a random patch of dirt on Klyntar, only to discover that that random patch of dirt was the end of the map, for some reason.

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I think the Ygggard (or whatever) one might be okay, you're clearly at the base of Yggdrasil.

runic apex
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i think the games in general are meant for smaller match times

raven summit
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I feel they are gonna figure out the melee characters.

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Like I think they're almost there. Magik is already there.

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Iron Fist needs to be tweaked a bit.

runic apex
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i think magik needs a bit more honestly

raven summit
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More health maybe.

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Or mitigation.

lapis aspen
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They're really small maps but it means you can play a lot of games which is fun. Lets you figure out what works and what doesnt more easily

runic apex
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hp could use a little boost

raven summit
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I feel the melee characters need more defense honestly.

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A lot of them do have ways of getting bonus health.

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Spidey just gets in and gets out.

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He has some of the best mobility in the game.

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What is the little imp guy for with Magik?

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I feel there could be a better option there, unless he has some tech I'm missing.

runic apex
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yeah its just bad

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only time its useful is against completely still targets

raven summit
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I guess it's good for getting shield when running away.

dense remnant
raven summit
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Idea, Logan can convert rage into healing.

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Or rage increases damage mitigation.

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Or generates bonus health.

runic apex
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the rage into healing is actully what it does sorrta

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its just bad

raven summit
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We need a mage that feels like an actual mage.

fervent pulsar
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gods i hate the kill mission

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i'm good at none of these fucking characters

runic apex
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ok hawekyese charge mechnics sucks

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like i don'

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i don't think the person who made it ever used him

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its hyper awkard

fervent pulsar
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ugh

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the map limited stuff is seriously annoying me

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if anyone wants to do the spider challenge thing with venom, spiderman and peni i'm down rn

runic apex
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sure

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oi just finished my match

fervent pulsar
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๐Ÿ‘

runic apex
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i can go venom first

fervent pulsar
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thanks

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i'll try to get the kills quick

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also it took me an embarrasingly long time to realize there is a melee button

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need one more kill

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then we can swap

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that one more kill is turning out to be so hard to get

runic apex
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eh its giving me tim eto learn venom

fervent pulsar
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they picked the worst damage move ever

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to make you kill confirm with

runic apex
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still need one more?

raven summit
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I feel Psylocke needs a double jump.

runic apex
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i agree

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and maybe a tad more damage on the primary

fervent pulsar
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one more

raven summit
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I feel a few characters just need a double jump.

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Also, let the team use Punisher's zipline!

fervent pulsar
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got the third kill

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lets swap

runic apex
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ima try spiderman

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why is the cooldown so long

fervent pulsar
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i have no fucking idea

runic apex
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also i got the thrid

fervent pulsar
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it's not a super useful move the cooldown should not be that long

runic apex
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you setup the last one for me

fervent pulsar
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peak

runic apex
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also the ammont of shields you get as venom is incane if your almost dead

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its just like

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your 900 hp now

fervent pulsar
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i might need to play Venom

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i didn't like him when i tried him first time

runic apex
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you can also do the dive out of any just high fall

fervent pulsar
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but he's actually kinda fucking fun

runic apex
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doesnt need to be swinging

fervent pulsar
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maybe he's the tank i've been looking for

hexed niche
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What do these symbols mean?

runic apex
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where are they?

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the right one looks like a conneciton symbol kinda

hexed niche
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I donโ€™t know

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Iโ€™m trying to figure out

runic apex
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i mean as in where do you see

hexed niche
fervent pulsar
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i'm gonna keep doing bot matches

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if you wanna keep playing

runic apex
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ill do one more

fervent pulsar
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๐Ÿ‘

runic apex
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maybe praice s few more im really bad at

fervent pulsar
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i wanna get kills on tokyo 2099

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but i keep not fucking getting the map

runic apex
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i think peni is pretty good i just learned when she laches on to her webs she heals apprently

fervent pulsar
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huh

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gonna practice Venom

runic apex
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i got beat up badly against a black panther

hexed hearth
runic apex
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panther is genji

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panther is genji

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thats why he is so hard to play

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ok ima leave after thato ne i want to test something

fervent pulsar
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yep yep

runic apex
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so how panther works is when he uses the dash on someone with a mark

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he gets health back and it refreshing the dash

sour forge
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for all the takes ive seen comparing psylocke to genji the only similarity is really the dash

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the wallclimb and doublejump is unironically more core to the character because that's how you actually get angles

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the invis is nice but it definitely feels like more of a getaway tool

sand kelp
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in my handful of actual matches, psylocke's ult has proven to be the bane of my existence

sour forge
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people are really bad about playing around everything which is fine

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it does also two tap squishies which seems like it might be a little nuch

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it's hard to say, I think scarlet witch has gotten a 2 or 3k off every single ult I've seen her throw in my game

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which definitely isn't translating anytime soon

runic apex
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i think panther is the actual genji comparson

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gameplay wise

sour forge
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yeah the dash actually resetting is crucial

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because you're in then you're out

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and if you fuck up you explode but we don't talk about that part

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idk psylocke just shoots people in the head and kills them

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genji you gotta be a little more tactful because it's anmoying as shit to hit shurikens against people with good movement

runic apex
#

rn im testing quick melee

#

to see if there is antyhing intresting

#

for magik and groot you actully gain dps for using quick melee inbeween attacks

sour forge
#

loki might actually need to melee people to kill them

#

the character does no damage with m1 but backstabs are pretty decent dps

runic apex
#

why does widow have one of the highest daming quick attacks

#

i think she actully has the best quick attack

#

so far

#

if only counting damage

#

but i think it does have less range

runic apex
#

i was curious if quick melee had any possible uses

#

did some really basic testing and did find a few thigns

dense remnant
#

I've seen Cap described as a cross between Doomfist & Reinhardt, which is. Huh.

runic apex
#

magik,groot,and namor are the only ones that i felt do outright benefit

#

from just quickmeleing inbtween strikes

teal mist
#

I thought Venom could get a dps boost but they may have adjusted it

runic apex
#

its hard for me to tell honestly

#

i can't tell if the melee overlaps with the primary or not on him

#

its very close

hexed hearth
#

finally got MVP as healer

dense remnant
#

Jeff is, indeed, the MVP

#

Look at im

sour forge
#

somehow i think this isn't gonna be a common achievement ever

dense remnant
#

Unsure how common this one will be, either

runic apex
#

i almost got that i think

runic apex
sour forge
#

yeah that seems like the correct use of that super lol

runic apex
#

if you cant throw them off a ledge yeha just hold them

#

or throw them into another ult

hexed hearth
#

i was mixed on Jeff at first, but "Mercy with an amazing escape tool, better self-healing, and literally no range limit to the healing stream" is pretty fun

#

also a very fun ult

runic apex
#

it can also get allies

#

ill problaly try comp at some point but i want to find more heros im really good at

#

so far my bests are starlord,winter,and mantis

#

im good with psylock but she isnt very consistant

raven summit
#

Man... I really want to get good at Psylocke.

green junco
#

Picking your fights or sneaking around the backlines work for me

#

Also Genji dashing is good too if you need to finish the fight

raven summit
#

Scarlet Witch is my bane.

green junco
#

I love my witch

runic apex
#

hawkeye and squrirle girl fele like thye have reverse

#

hanzo problem

#

peorjectiles being too small

green junco
#

Squirrel girl explodes

#

But I sort of agree with Hawkeye

runic apex
#

the trigger raidus for the explsopn and her squirrle tossis really small

#

you have to basicly hit them directly

#

also the explosive spread is too high

raven summit
#

My aim is really bad.

fervent pulsar
#

same

#

found a dude named Lautrec

dense remnant
#

Popped my Punisher ultimate at the same time an Iron Man player did, we were both in midair and went all out on each other lol

sour forge
#

I think Squirrel Girl's projectiles are so small it's genuinely kind of a visibility problem as well because you'll just walk into an area and get annihilated by unseeable rocks

runic apex
#

i will say dagger being able to chaange and insantly go invisable and invicable is kinda annoying

maiden radish
#

Has anyone else been having latency issues?

runic apex
#

also funfact squirrelgirl has the worst melee

#

she actully does benefit from melee while attacking though

dense remnant
#

She is doing her best

raven summit
#

I don't like fighting scarlet witch because panther Moira beam.

#

Also just her being able to turn kinda invisible and invincible and fly away.

runic apex
#

you can watch where she goes

green junco
#

She turns into a orb

raven summit
#

I know.

green junco
#

I just follow her and then blow her up

raven summit
#

My aim needs improvement.

dense remnant
#

She doesnt seem hard to fight, at least with my characters

raven summit
#

But I do find her the most annoying to fight against.

dense remnant
#

I wish my own aim was better with Winter Soldier

raven summit
#

I play a lot of dashy characters and sometimes her beam stays on me before I can get the kill.

runic apex
#

is it just me or does cap players love to just run up and try to 1v6

sour forge
#

it's the reinhardt brain

silver helm
#

rein brain see charge button

neuron activation

runic apex
#

so far i feel like if i do play comp its just gonna be mantis and winter so far

#

they are the only ones id feel confomrtable playing in comp

sour forge
#

the core of the reinhardt player brain is the "i just wanna grill for gods sake" meme

runic apex
#

ok thats really dumb iorn justi s just like triple jump heal ot full

#

he just can tripe jump out of my mele range and full heal

sour forge
#

yeah his ult is something out of dota

#

it's kind of insane

#

they had to know what they were cooking with it right

hexed hearth
#

i feel like this is going to be a Fox/Falco/Captain Falcon in Smash type situation

sour forge
#

like they had to realize letting him succ the entire team and then suicide off the nearest platform was gonna be optimal

hexed hearth
#

where everyone will just know jeff as "that one guy from that crossover game" instead of the source material

sour forge
#

yeah he's from the 21 jump street cinematic univers

hexed hearth
sour forge
#

there's a couple double jumpers in a lot of team comps I run into, because people are sick movement addicts

hexed hearth
#

or if there's just a small infinite void opening like the Hydra map

sour forge
#

<-- the terminal movement option enjoyer

#

I guess like

#

the equivalent of this would maybe be a dva bomb which is pretty fair

#

maybe it"s just not me seeing a telegraph, it could well be a krill issue because nobody knows the tells for any AoE

soft pollen
#

I didn't realize Jeff could ult teammates until I got team killed by one.

sour forge
#

ope lmao

runic apex
#

ok black panther is good

#

once you realize he is infact genji

sour forge
#

yeah he seems pretty solid

#

right click having an aoe is pretty yuge i think

#

makes him way more forgiving once you just go for splashing people's feet since the actual damage isn't the thing you care about

#

you just want the dash reset

dense remnant
#

You know, I expected Psylocke to basically be Genji

sour forge
#

yeah you'd think

#

weeb character who is gonna have the most noxious fanbase this side of the salton sea

#

but then you play her and she's just the most basic shotgun character ever

runic apex
sour forge
#

GUNSHOT BRIIIIDE

sand oracle
#

his is probably the best, but scarlet witch, thor, storm, all kinda achieve the goal in the end if they go off

#

jeff's is just... really easy to pull off

sour forge
#

they don't make you wait seven seconds then put you in the spawn screen is the thing

sand oracle
#

oh yeah for sure it's the best one

sour forge
#

free cap progress and stagger and the 5k is pretty nuts

sand oracle
#

just yknow. it's still just a long cooldown kill everyone button

#

it has a lot going for it though

dense remnant
#

It's funny to see pre-release reddit posts talking about Punisher being OP when like, yeah I can melt bars with a good enough team but let's see you casually 1v1 an Iron Fist

#

It's not even like he's over or underpowered IMO. For one, he has a fairly hefty hitbox

green junco
#

Easier to hit 76

#

The turret is a little annoying but he's easy to hit

hexed hearth
runic apex
#

there is also an audio cue

#

so if you hear it you know to spread out

#

i know she is a squrril girl but it is funny watcher her eat acorns like tiktacs

silver helm
#

viable strat?

runic apex
#

i keep running into scarlets that feel my existant is a crime that should be recified

#

i kinda went wild in the last 2 min of a match

round gazelle
#

@hexed niche your dreams are dashed

hexed niche
#

zamn

#

no sue solo carry

unique storm
#

Lame, Sue should be a tank.

teal mist
#

Agreed! Not enough durable gals around. And how's bubblemagic supposed to heal anyhow

runic apex
#

maybe she just makes the wounds invisable

hexed hearth
#

I think the main thing is that tanks with small models feel weird

runic apex
#

it would also not be great to fight against

hexed hearth
#

yeah

runic apex
#

size of a charcter is legit a balacing dision

teal mist
#

It's why we have Strangely Enormous Dr. Strange

runic apex
#

i feel like if you did have a small tank it would be more ablity based like they don't actully tank but they summon stuff that does it

hexed hearth
#

I think Big Dr Strange works, but I can't see how Big Sue Storm would work

teal mist
#

Give Sue a mecha made out of Invisible

hexed hearth
#

also I appreciate how "the invisible woman" has kind of faded as a moniker

runic apex
#

its kinda wordy

hexed hearth
#

forcefields are like 90% of her practicality

runic apex
#

is it wierd i kinda want venture bros crossover skins

hexed hearth
#

I imagine Reed would be a dedicated healer and Sue would be a healer/dps

sand oracle
#

I assume the bubbles give shields / bonus health

runic apex
#

reed is probally more of ranged melee

sand oracle
#

rather than her actually healing

hexed hearth
#

the thing is that beating people up has never remotely been Reed's focus

#

running around with half a dozen wacky healing gizmos like Rocket would make more sense than just punching people

#

the game has a pretty high density of characters with invisibility, doesn't it

teal mist
#

Nnnnot really

#

Psylocke, Loki..

hexed hearth
#

Loki, Cloak, Psylocke, Scarlet Witch, soon to be Sue

teal mist
#

Cloak and Scarlet don't turn invisible!

#

You can totally see that business you just can't attack it

hexed hearth
#

oh yeah

sand oracle
#

cloak's kit is kind of the only one I'm like, proper disappointed with

#

he does not feel like cloak at all

runic apex
#

cloak does turn invisable

teal mist
#

Had to like actually go and research wtf Scarlet actually did when she kept vanishing

#

I thought cloak had like intangibility field but you can still see the big shadowy blob

runic apex
#

cloak just doesnt on the player side

teal mist
#

Ahhh

teal mist
runic apex
#

i feel like rockets needs an extra ablity

#

hes got a booster rocket and a wierd deployable

#

and heal shots

#

he kinda boring

teal mist
#

I find the fun in Rocket mostly being in the escape from folks

#

He can really scramble

hexed hearth
#

I think they did a good job making Rocket do everything Rocket does

teal mist
#

But I think a lot of his kit is tuned around BRB machine being so damn good

sand oracle
#

all of his teleports do not feel as cool as cloak should

hexed hearth
#

he's super nimble, has a big gun, and has a ton of wacky useful gadgets

#

I guess explosives are one thing from the Rocket brand that's missing, but overall he plays just how I'd expect

runic apex
#

give him a explosive charge

#

that also lets him explosive jump

fervent pulsar
#

ok my friend is locking in for Peni

#

he's cooking hard with her

runic apex
#

peni is good

#

shes the only tank i can play decent but only on defense

fervent pulsar
#

having him play Peni and just lock shit down is so nice

#

cause it frees me up as Iron Fist to just go fucking destroy their squishies and stragglers

teal mist
#

Peni seems like one of the best counters to the Heavy Dive Team

#

but then also one person paying attention can nullify half of your trap setups

#

Spent a good part of a game as Magneto just making sure Peni and Loki and Rocket couldn't summon or set up

runic apex
#

fun fact two of the voice actors both are known for voicing tails

#

scarlet/manti's actors

#

scralet is pre sonic boom mainly, and mantis is post sonic boom

fervent pulsar
#

I really wanna get Iron Fists skin

runic apex
#

well comp is out

fervent pulsar
#

i'm not even one third of the way yet though ๐Ÿ˜”

#

i'm not playing comp yet

runic apex
#

ima do at least a round with winter

#

i would like my heros im comfortable with for comp but its just winter

fervent pulsar
#

mhm

#

i'm sending it on Iron Fist if anything

#

but i want to play with my Friend

#

cause we make a good duo

dry roost
#

Fantastic 4 are coming?

runic apex
#

ok i have just realized a tech for winter that makes him a lot stronger

fervent pulsar
#

love popping my ult and getting completely negated by Jeff

teal mist
#

Yeah I wouldn't mind some adjustment on Jeff's ult there

fervent pulsar
#

wasn't even the ult

#

he just fucking outhealed my ult

teal mist
#

that too

#

they buffed him so much since beta

#

Seeing people go from 8 hp to 275 in a microsecond is infuriating

fervent pulsar
#

literally healed groot so much while i was full focusing him with my ult as Iron Fist, his health was going UP

#

love popping off as Iron Fist

#

just fucking ripping through the enemy team

#

mobility unmatched

unique storm
#

I've seen a lot of people feeling the healing is overtuned.

fervent pulsar
#

it's really insane

#

a lot of the time if there is healing i just cannot kill

runic apex
potent adder
#

I figured out btw that part of what made spider man and venom feel shitty is that if you go into their settings they have an automatic targeting thing for their web swinging. If you turn it off you start swinging from where you aim your crosshair and it feels a million times better

#

I'm a spiders main now

runic apex
#

it felt better for me for spiderman but not venom

severe zephyr
#

The swinging felt fucking awful

potent adder
potent adder
#

Genuinely everyone turn off auto swing/easy swing

teal mist
#

not Jeff Ending The Game on Convoy just not exactly.. idk

runic apex
#

yeah thats kinda what they do

#

they are bascily just tranqulity

#

i think luna's is weaker

teal mist
#

It's not a fun gameplay space, especially if they have both lol

runic apex
#

but more range

#

mantis has shorter range more power

teal mist
#

Need some anti-healing on something other than Strange

runic apex
#

his anti healing does it effect anyone besides himself?

teal mist
#

Nawh

#

It's one of the more odd passives tbh

runic apex
#

yeah what is the point of it

#

its really wierd

fervent pulsar
#

got my ult negated by jeff again

teal mist
#

'You've done too much damage for a tank, how dare you'

#

does charge up his E damage i believe

#

but why punish

fervent pulsar
#

love using my ult and getting to do nothing with it

sour forge
#

you only get punished for sitting on it

#

at least that's what the description would suggest

teal mist
#

getting stunned out of Thor's ult makes me want to flip a table

#

why is Spidey immune to CC but not The God Of Thunder

maiden radish
#

Yeah, it is even worse cause Jeff has such a small hurtbox when he gobbles people

#

It feels like you should be able to punch him if he misses you but instead he has a small hurtbox and armor

teal mist
#

Smaller hurtbox, 60% speed boost, and a self heal

#

They really gave 'em the juice

maiden radish
#

I think there's definitely a few characters who are kinda :/ design wise. Both on the end of this is too strong and this is too weak

#

Like I get it, Wanda has a long cast time but Jesus it does what 1k damage?

teal mist
#

I also feel like Ult Charge across the board could maybe be adjusted

#

A lot of games just feel like a Series of People Yelling

runic apex
#

maybe not across the board

teal mist
#

Yeah it's probably just a few standouts but all together it can feel overwhelming

maiden radish
#

I'm still enjoying the game but I feel the honeymoon period was short. I'm just sick of healers being able to instantly heal themselves to full

runic apex
#

wanda's is just a worse dva ult

maiden radish
#

Like Mantis is the only one who can't

runic apex
#

mantis is the zen of the game

teal mist
#

Rocket's self heal is pretty slow but he can just sort of fly away

maiden radish
#

Ok Jeff is the only one who's instant

#

But it still feels weird anyone can do that

potent adder
#

Doctor strange gets almost a full ult charge by killing his own team with a portal

fervent pulsar
#

Jeff is the big problem yeah

teal mist
#

Luna Snow's powerset makes me not like Luna Snow on a conceptual level

#

why does any of this do what it does

fervent pulsar
#

kinda sick of pulling insane moves nad just

runic apex
#

iron fist can also just heal to full in an instant too in the most annoying way

fervent pulsar
#

getting to do nothing cause Jeff is there

potent adder
teal mist
potent adder
#

Yes

teal mist
#

i've been hit with an icicle before pretty sure my hp went down

runic apex
#

her brazilian friend taught her

potent adder
#

So like she makes two kinds of magic ice

teal mist
#

( i will say these are mostly small gripes and I'm enjoying the game )

fervent pulsar
#

yeah i'm still having a lot of fun

#

crushing people as Iron Fist

#

starting to get better with him

maiden radish
#

Winter soldier is so so so fun

fervent pulsar
#

understanding his defense ability more instead of just using it as a damage boost

maiden radish
#

I love hooks, I love instant reloading a high damage revolver, and I love recharging ults

teal mist
#

I will say though, any time I get that 'goddamn this game has a lot of healing' I switch to Hela and she can usually sort things out

runic apex
#

suety did you see what i did to strange earlier?

green junco
#

If you are fighting a witch as Jeff, if you eat her during her ult, she wastes all charge and doesn't explode

maiden radish
runic apex
#

scroll up a bit i posted a video

maiden radish
#

I tried strange again and enjoyed him too

#

High damage magnum my beloved

fervent pulsar
#

i'm Iron Fisting all over the place rn

#

i kinda like Jeff, Venom and Wolverine too

runic apex
#

its stuch a dirty and great way to take down tanks hook then push away from their retreat location

teal mist
#

I can't hit Venom's autoattacks worth a damn

maiden radish
#

It's so deceptive on its range

teal mist
#

I'm just real bad at tracking

maiden radish
#

I like playing penni though

teal mist
#

Gimme one single big hit, it is the way

maiden radish
#

Oh same lol

teal mist
#

nobody should ever look at my Rocket Raccoon accuracy stat

maiden radish
#

I'm on console and the controls could use a bit of improvement when it comes to auming

teal mist
#

i've heard that

teal mist
#

Probably trying to avoid the whole 'everyone switches to controller for Aim Assist Cheese' but some characters feel impossible consolewise

maiden radish
#

Melee characters feel like this gif

#

You kinda just shuffle around a guy and miss half your swings

teal mist
#

Iron Fist has like a lock-on melee but no one else in the game does for some reason

maiden radish
#

I KNEW IT

runic apex
#

i don't think he should have it honestly

teal mist
#

They really kitted him the hell out

maiden radish
#

Ok good I thought every iron fist was just a god

runic apex
#

hes really busted in general

maiden radish
#

But he really does stick to you

#

It turns out being able to hit all your swings makes you a great dps

teal mist
#

At first I was like 'the CD on his kick seems high how do you stay on folk- oh'

runic apex
#

id be fine with charceters having maybe a little autoaim not YOU WILL NOT ESCAPE NO MATTER WHAT

teal mist
#

just distribute Fists's among the populace

runic apex
#

i don't think you can escape without a super jump or something that makes you inciable

maiden radish
#

It's just like melee characters still need to have your crosshair on them

runic apex
#

not to mntion iron fist has several ways to get healtyh back

maiden radish
#

And that makes them really weird

runic apex
#

blocking? gives you health assist/kills? gives you health heal ablity? gives you health

#

iron fist can max out at double hp at 500

maiden radish
#

Ew

teal mist
#

The block should definitely not give him enhanced autoattacks without parrying anything

#

It should be a reward for using the actual function lmao

runic apex
#

the only thing that does not give him hp is normal attacks and the spin kick

maiden radish
#

Wait so the block heals AND gives him enhanced melee

runic apex
#

yes

maiden radish
#

Ugh

runic apex
maiden radish
#

Black Panther is so bad ๐Ÿ˜”

runic apex
#

hes not actully

maiden radish
#

Really?

runic apex
#

hes secretly genji

#

so the marks you put on enemies when you use your dash attack on an enemy that has it it resets the dash

teal mist
#

Black Panther is very feast or famine

maiden radish
#

Like I know he has movement but I still feel like he struggles to do damage

teal mist
#

if you don't get the reset you kind of die

maiden radish
#

Oh that's what the marks for?

runic apex
#

so you use your spear to put marks on enemies then you dash into them it resets and then you either kick or spear to put another one on, and dash again into an enemy or you dash into an eney that has one or dash to escape

maiden radish
#

Oh that's cool, I should try him again now that I know what he actually does

runic apex
#

if you on controller im not sure he would be good

#

you need a lot of quick rotations

maiden radish
#

Good point

runic apex
#

i thoght panther was bad until fighing against a good oen

runic apex
#

winter is still my best by far though

maiden radish
#

I really didn't expect to like Winter soldier

#

But damn

#

Anyways do we know if we're getting more team-ups?

#

Some characters have multiple and others kinda don't do anything

teal mist
#

One of my favorite parts of Thor is how many teamups he offers

#

Doesn't get a lot in return but it's nice

maiden radish
#

Yeah, I like playing him because of that too

#

I just like using the team ups

#

Some characters get a huge power boost from them, like Psylocke and Black Panther are improved so much by the Magik team up

fervent pulsar
#

๐Ÿ˜”

maiden radish
#

Wait does he really get nothing?

fervent pulsar
#

as far as i can tell

#

all it does is boost Luna Snow with chi power

#

it mentions nothing about Iron Fist getting anything from their team up

#

my GOAT is hard carrying the team up

#

doing all of the work solo

maiden radish
#

Oh that's rad

hexed hearth
fervent pulsar
#

yeah

runic apex
#

i think there at least one that isnt

fervent pulsar
#

Trade offer!
you recieve: access to the power of Shou Lao, The Immortal dragon of K'un-Lun
i recieve: nothing

teal mist
#

They get a passive buff don't they?

fervent pulsar
#

i like that Spider-Man and Squirrel Girl just like

#

went to the same school

#

so he gives her a hand grenade as a freebie

unique storm
#

I don't have a main. I'm a doormat who swaps to whatever the team needs.

fervent pulsar
#

Hulk and Wolverine having the Fastball Special is all i could ask for though tbh

runic apex
#

i main winter

fervent pulsar
#

Guardian Revival is kind of insane though

errant folio
#

Just played a half dozen games as someone that hasn't paid any attention to the marketing, saw Punisher's face on the character select and immediately said, out loud "Why is Gideon Nav in this game?"

teal mist
#

Revival is so much stronger on Starlord than on Adam lmao

fervent pulsar
#

Adam Warlock just giving Mantis and Starlord free revives is kinda insane

#

like at least with say

#

Hela

#

and the Ragnarok Rebirth teamup

#

she has to fucking cook for that to be useful

#

Adam Warlock is just like "free revive :D"

dense remnant
#

The teamup buff system is really cool, helps the game stand out

fervent pulsar
#

it does

#

i like it a lot

#

ammo overload seems like it could go fucking nuts

errant folio
#

I'm really enjoying Moon Knight's gameplay of "Place Ankh, shoot ankh, deal AoE"

fervent pulsar
#

giving Winter and Punisher infinite ammo is wild

dense remnant
#

God this skin is cool

fervent pulsar
#

it is

teal mist
#

If playing Mantis didn't make me fall asleep it could easily be a favorite, it's a helluva look

fervent pulsar
#

fr

runic apex
#

mantis is meant to like zen

unique storm
runic apex
#

she gets back charges by geting headshots

teal mist
#

And has unexciting gameplay, like Zen /sagely nodding

dense remnant
#

Yes but consider: Mantis is adorable

#

Zen is Zen

fervent pulsar
#

i mained Zen for a while

#

then i found my true calling as a tank main

#

looking forward to getting the Empress of the Cosmos skin when i get enough of the season pass moneys

runic apex
#

who is that for

fervent pulsar
#

Hela

runic apex
#

i think hela has the best teamup

#

magik is also decent

fervent pulsar
#

been doing absolutely everything i can to grind out all the currency but ofc it's only like

#

a few days into the game being out

dense remnant
#

Part of me wants to nab Punisher 2099 but I also wanna hold out on Rivals making a skin that gives him his longcoat

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Let me embrace the edge

fervent pulsar
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done all of the missions, challenges and event stuff so far

green junco
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There's a couple of these teamups where one of them gets nothing

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Thor with storm and cap

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Hawkeye with widow

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Spiderman and squirrel girl

dense remnant
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It's funny that I've been vibing to some extent with most of the Guardians on here so far

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Adam's the only one I haven't tried

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and Groot

green junco
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Adam warlock cooks

teal mist
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I haven't trusted any team enough to play Warlock

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He feels so vulnerable

raven summit
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He hurts...

dense remnant
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The plight of being a support main

fervent pulsar
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i'm locking Iron Fist no matter what

hexed hearth
raven summit
fervent pulsar
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I'm too violence pilled for this tip

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I've never even seen one of my allies be slept

dense remnant
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My Mantis strat ๐Ÿ˜ญ

errant folio
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You still take guns off the line for a second

runic apex
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also a lot of people arent gonna ntoice that much in combat

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game is chaotic

dense remnant
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Oh right, ranked is out now

maiden radish
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Why did I even click the competitive button

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This is miserable

runic apex
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i do know that crosplay exists for quick

hexed hearth
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someone at asgard seriously needs to hire some botomless pit supervisors

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it feels so sad whenever i land a good jeff ult on that map and it just does nothing

runic apex
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if you can talk fast maybe ask someone else to ult

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so you can spit them out into it

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you could also sacrifice yourself in adiffrent way

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just run as far as you can away from the obejctive

dull wigeon
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oh god I don't remember how to play overwatch

runic apex
#

honestly other than basic skills

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i don't think stuff transfers that much

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chqarcters are two diffrent

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its also third person

dull wigeon
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but like in terms of basic game theory I'm drawing an utter blank

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do you get dropped in bot matches to start?

runic apex
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you chose them

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under change mode

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you can also do practie area

dull wigeon
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but if I'm just in normal quick match that's not bots?

runic apex
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no bots

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its specicily practie vs ai

dull wigeon
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....maybe I'm just at wood elo

runic apex
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that is players vs bots

dense remnant
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At least one of my comp matches ended with someone plugging

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That sure is a sign

runic apex
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plugging?

dense remnant
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Disconnecting

runic apex
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ive only had time do to one com match before i had to go play monhunt

dull wigeon
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also holy shit the punisher does a lot of damage

dense remnant
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He is a simple man. He sees targets, he shoots.

dull wigeon
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the shotgun oneshots

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I landed some kind of meatshot and sent jeff to a farm upstate

sour forge
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jeff in fairness has the hitbox specifically calibrated to be perfectly meatshottable from any angle

hexed hearth
sour forge
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platonic sphere of oneshottability

hexed hearth
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and being one of the only hitscan characters in the game

dull wigeon
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"you know what word I don't like nuance" okay frank calm down

runic apex
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i will say one of the funniest things to do as winter is to execute people from a hook attack

hexed hearth
dense remnant
sour forge
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yeah but other characters are a little narrower sometimes

hexed hearth
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i will say the melee damage in the game overall feels really weird

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like black widow has the best long-range gun in the game, and she can swap it to melee batons

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that seemingly do the same DPS, if not a bit less

runic apex
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widow actully has the best quick melee in the game in raw damage

hexed hearth
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and she also has the power of Gun

runic apex
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loki is the only other charcter who's quick melee can kill in 6 hits

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the bots

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but that requires backstabs

hexed hearth
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why would you ever switch to a melee weapon when you have something that has the same damage but still hits them when they're farther

runic apex
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yeah most quick melee is worthless

hexed hearth
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meanwhile Hulk is unable to damage enemies that aren't an inch away from him, and even then barely does damage

runic apex
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its basicly groot,squirrl, and namor that benefit from it

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and maybe venom

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as attacking inbetween hits is more dps

dull wigeon
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this does have the overwatch issue where team comps are usually whether you'll win or lose

runic apex
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i think its too early for most to care

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except maybe black widow

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the only time ive seen black widow do just ok

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is with someone using an aimbot

hexed hearth
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i think it's too early to assume someone already cracked the anticheat instead of just aiming well

runic apex
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i think hela,thor,and loki have a really good teamup

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i uaslty ouwld agree but every kill i saw of there was a headshot

hexed hearth
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having a pretty good match really isn't that bizarre

runic apex
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7-8+ headshots in a row is suspicious to me even more so when it was all flicks into headshot

dull wigeon
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I'm not surprised someone has an aimbot already

runic apex
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none of them had them already near the head

hexed hearth
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huh. how much time did you spend spectating them?

runic apex
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every time they killed me

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the one i ran into felt more like a silent aim one

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it only triggers on attack

dull wigeon
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god help you netease

hexed hearth
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oohh i forgot there were all the months of early access for hackers to break it

dull wigeon
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that one's a lost cause

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"how well do I think Marvel Rivals Magneto represents the actual character of magneto idk you want to read my dissertation?"

runic apex
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people wanted the pruple

hexed hearth
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i really do think they did about as good a job as they could have staying accurate to the characters without sacrificing gameplay

runic apex
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i do think peni parker's voice is kinda bad though

hexed hearth
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i will always firmly be of the mindset that adaptations should prioritize being good over being faithful

runic apex
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it legit sounds like at times the voice lines were recoreded in a phonebooth

hexed hearth
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well that is sort of the point

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to make it instantly clear it's coming from a speaker

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although i will admit that Magneto is far and away the character who has the least to do with his source material

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well

dull wigeon
#

so how does monetization work?

dull wigeon
hexed hearth
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early in Claremont's run Magneto would just make forcefields using "magnetic power", so they could be going off of that

dull wigeon
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"what is magneto's character uhhh wanna read my thesis?"

runic apex
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they should give reed a fake gun that stuns people

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but stuns magneto for twice as long

sand kelp
# dull wigeon so how does monetization work?

pretty favorably considering its peers. ingame currency is earned as a dripfeed, skins are the only thing you actually buy and they're priced pretty reasonably. the battle passes are short, but don't expire and are five bucks a pop

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getting the full roster out the gate doesn't hurt either :P

hexed hearth
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also worth noting that the battlepass gives you $3 of ingame currency

dull wigeon
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oh ok so it's the fortnite model where battlepasses are cheap and chaining them is possible

hexed hearth
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so if you plan on playing enough to complete it and future battlepasses, it's kinda sort of $2 per pass

dull wigeon
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that's......actually far better than I expected

runic apex
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netease also runs once human

dull wigeon
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also I'm enjoying a lot of the characters even though there's several that I just do not have the mental throughput for

runic apex
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theres probally someone here that can help with some of them

hexed hearth
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though there is the psychological trap of "i have $3 of premium currency, but nothing costs $3...i guess i have to give more money to this game when i otherwise wouldn't have"

dull wigeon
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how do you play peni offensively

runic apex
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throw mines forward

dull wigeon
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also does punisher have damage dropoff?

runic apex
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and use the deploable as like an anchor

dull wigeon
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his gun does quite a bit even at range