#Mechabellum

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spark rain
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In which we ritualistically engage in robotiod combat in order to determine who gets the mineral rights without any humans coming into harm's way.

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i made us a forum, hooray <@&1119755262992068658>

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also does anyone wanna fight some robots

quiet oriole
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it's a work day for me

solid gazelle
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uhhh sure gimme 5 im helping mom cook

spark rain
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steel balls vs fangs

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my opponent chose not to click armor for the balls

quiet oriole
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imagine this guy buying a single stormcaller

spark rain
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id be so fucked

spark rain
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@viscid kernel

viscid kernel
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Thank you for showing me this based mech game.

spark rain
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the stormcaller tech is a misclick. I wanted to give them EM but apparently i clicked the opposite of what I wanted

solid gazelle
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<@&1119755262992068658> mechabelluming time

fallow vapor
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I could mech a bellum

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Let me know if you want me to play mechabellum

spark rain
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when your cost control opponent does this round 1

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oh he was fortified specialist

solid gazelle
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if ya wanna

viscid kernel
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I have become addicted to this game.
I am now at work but only thinking of mechabellum.

solid gazelle
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DO you have the ping

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(please get it so you can drag us into more mechabelluming)

viscid kernel
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How does one go about getting the ping? 🤔

solid gazelle
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botstuff

pure parcel
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you can just /rank yourself yeah

bright parrot
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My mecha-priest said I would get hairy palms from doing that...

solid gazelle
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<@&1119755262992068658> bellum time?

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> patch with new unit

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no steam announcement of patch notes

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but i think i'ts just this guy

quiet oriole
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sticky oil bomb noyvind

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what this game needs is more ways to slow armies down to a crawl so stormcallers can shoot them

spark rain
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it can turn invisible

solid gazelle
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i am exited about its insanity

quiet oriole
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what does burst mode do

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I like a stealth aircraft option but seeing oil in the upgrades enrages me immediately

spark rain
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it shoots 10 rockets per volley but shoots slower

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idk what it mean

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these might be broken with absorbtion module

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stealth+barrage mode with absorbtion module means it full heals eveyr volley and then recloaks

quiet oriole
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it's a flying worm with repair

spark rain
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it also lags the game to hell

quiet oriole
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that's mechabellum for you

spark rain
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no like

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the game lags so badly the moment its on my screen

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i got from good to like 5 fps

fallow vapor
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Is that a sc2 medivac?

solid gazelle
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@sterile burrow 👍

sterile burrow
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ty

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I could not find it

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I think this thing was designed for mobile beacon plays

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hmm but does it have jump drive?

pure parcel
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@sterile burrow why don't you have the mechabellum role

sterile burrow
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Went and picked it up

wraith glen
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I can see it being a pain in 2v2s with mobile beacon, just put it on the inbetween flank and mobile beacon it the towards the other player once one of them counter it

clear heron
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went up an against an opponent who really likes the new unit

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they were talking about how once their wall was set up the rays were unstoppable
and then learned that overlords are a pretty good counter to medium close-range air units

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slightly more full-battlefield shot that might be too busy to be meaningful

wraith glen
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Gotta respect the commitment to the bit tho

sterile burrow
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The armor upgrade on a 200 cost air unit is very cool

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That early most anti air is low damage so you can get some good value out of it

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You can pair them with wasps to tank for them

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The other obvious use for the new unit is steelball aggro

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It functions a lot like a wraith in that scenario

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just high enough range to not get targeted and helps with chaff clear

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And unlike the wraith its fast enough to keep up

quiet oriole
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it does feel a bit like a middle point between wasp and wraith

bright parrot
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A wrasp

spark rain
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does anyone else's frame rate go to unplayable when there's a wraith on the screen

solid gazelle
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a tad

sterile burrow
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I've had weird framerate issues this patch yeah

spark rain
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they are gonna fix it eventually

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> they fixed the wraith it doest lag anymore who wants to game

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the phnatom i mean

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(i do not have a person there were already people in the channel)

spark rain
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this guy

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pre countering my stormcallers on round 1

sterile burrow
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I respect the dedication

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personally I think the counter to stormcallers is to just get your own

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(and make sure your units are at different range brackets so they don't get pelted together)

quiet oriole
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the distracto crawler can do a lot of work

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I used to think that war factory AM was enough to deal with any amount of storms but I've since then learned that launcher overload overwhelms it

sterile burrow
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Oh yeah the crawler stuff is pretty useful but I think people try too hard to counter stormcallers

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At least at my mmr range

wraith glen
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Its so easy to shutdown stormcallers now with the fact that 4 different types of units can take AM that investing a lot in stormcallers just results in you getting flattened eventually ime

sterile burrow
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romNod people just use level 1 stormcallers cause they're pretty efficient

quiet oriole
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I think non-war factory AM options lose their juice pretty fast

sterile burrow
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The newly buffed mustang AM is pretty strong now

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But you need to be using mustangs as chaff for that to be worth it

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Sabertooth AM is terrible except against typhoon missiles

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Farseer AM is pretty okay but getting enough farseers to make it work is usually not worth it

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I usually just match their stormcaller count and then make sure my ranks are seperate

clear heron
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i usually find the opposite for sabretooth and far seer effectiveness

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to the point i took AMS off my far seer upgrades

quiet oriole
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saberteeth are much easier to mass

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so that helps their case

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I think if you build a lot of those you have other techs to click first though

clear heron
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I'm also way to attached to driveby far seer, which likes range and EM

solid gazelle
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<@&1119755262992068658> mechaballin?

solid gazelle
quiet oriole
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the mighty chinese badger

solid gazelle
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we even got a chinese sabertooth (just like the kitten but instead of siberian, chinese)

clear heron
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@spark rain cannot believe you don't believe in us

spark rain
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there were no other spectators so i knew it would not spend my spectate ticket

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and that is the funnier button to press

solid gazelle
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<@&1119755262992068658> jaming?

spark rain
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yes

spark rain
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my opponent put some fangs in front to counter my scorpion but i'm elite specialist and already had some fangs in front so i bought range on them and then bought even more of them

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and then my fangs kept sticking around so they got ignite to help with all the shit

spark rain
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missile specialist is funny

spark rain
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i now have the cheeto scorpion

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<@&1119755262992068658> who wants to engage in ritualistic combat to see who gets the mineral rights

sterile burrow
clear heron
quiet oriole
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parasitic ammo specialist

clear heron
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oh no

spark rain
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this scorpion shot

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it killed the tower

quiet oriole
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kobe

sterile burrow
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ty for the games btw! Sorry if I was a little incoherent today

clear heron
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@sterile burrow thanks for the vote of confidence :P

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making the wild assumption that this is you

clear heron
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we did it

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@sterile burrow would you like to do an in-house 2v2 or FFA?

sterile burrow
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Yes!

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Just give me a moment I'm talking to my girlfriend real quick

sterile burrow
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Great games tysm MinfiliaHappy_gif

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> who wanna more robots

solid gazelle
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<@&1119755262992068658> bibeobabeb

quiet oriole
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look at my opponent's board

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notice that I have ion beam

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my opponent did not shield

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highest value beam I'll ever have

clear heron
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-3400 damage is maybe the most I've seen

quiet oriole
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the beam got every stormcaller and four of the scorpions, there was basically nothing left in the center

quiet oriole
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great compact play from the opponents today

spark rain
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Kinda looks like you just run it down and own

sterile burrow
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Thats a lot of health to burn through

quiet oriole
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it was pretty good at stalling the center yeah

spark rain
sterile burrow
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The cost of Raiden's [Chain] increased from 200 to 250.
Fixed an issue that made it impossible to complete tutorial level 3.2.
Fixed multiple sound effect bugs.
Fixed an issue where replays would not play correctly.`
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I guess the raiden was overperforming quite a bit?

wraith glen
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Yuh

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After playing a bunch yesterday i figured itd get nerfed pretty hard

quiet oriole
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yeah I thought it was quite mediocre but seeing chain emp go off in some games made me realise the value

clear heron
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sound effect is actually a huge buff back to the arclight

sterile burrow
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oh yeah the arclight was so terrible to listen to

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too much ka-thunk

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too little pew pew

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now its back to normal

wraith glen
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i thought i was going crazy yesteday because the arclights sounded different

median wraith
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had a very efficient first game of season 2
opponent went starting sabertooth as sabertooth specialist and went for the new giant flying units, and I went training specialist and eventually got some overlords

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that's all the new stuff checked off now I can go back to playing normally instead of specifically trying to see new things

wraith glen
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mucho grande damage

spark rain
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game

sterile burrow
spark rain
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i tried the hounds

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they are great

spark rain
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the game is much better now

fallow vapor
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I won two games after not playing for a while. Felt pretty good

fallow vapor
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<@&1119755262992068658> anyone up for a game or two

sterile burrow
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was already eeping romollaSleep

storm hatch
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Raidens....good

spark rain
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wizard and I queued a 1v1 game. it popped and put me in a 1v1 and how he's in a bugged queue

spark rain
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one million total damage on this marksman who was there from ronud 1

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i think @clear heron would appreciate the antimissile tech unit on the flank

storm hatch
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I just made the greatest jump drive play of my life

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dodged a sentry missile and literally all of my opponents units

fallow vapor
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nice

fallow vapor
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It turns out I don't have a clue how to deal with stormcallers

wraith glen
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Musbangs ❤️

fallow vapor
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I tried!

clear heron
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War Factory with missile interceptors can handle like 2-3 squads

fallow vapor
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I had 3 games in a row against starting stormcaller

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War Factory can't do anything for me there

clear heron
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you can get it on like round 3 if you're giant specialist

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(don't do this

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)

median wraith
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if you happen to be playing like crawler+steel ball start and spread your starting units out a fair bit so they all run under the missiles instead of just the front ones that works pretty well

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and I am really bad at playing not aggro, so mostly I just lose to stormcallers in standard

median wraith
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that's kind of awesome

quiet oriole
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the cheapest way is the distracto crawler

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put one squad of crawlers on the line and mobile beacon it back and forth

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it'll attract and dodge the first couple volleys which is usually enough time for everything else to connect

spark rain
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on early waves i find air units help a lot

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something like range arclights with phoenixes deals with a lot of stormcaller including compositions by round 3

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also if they die from one really bad round sometimes you just gotta buy like 10 antimissile buildings in a single round

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i find sabertooth antimissile to be very solid

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if you spam out like 6 sabertooth with antimissile it solves more than just one problem

wraith glen
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Does a sabertooth with antimissile counter 1 group of storms?

noble star
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I think roughly yes, but you kind of want 2+ sabertooths to get enough antimissile saturation to knock them all down. I do like that the sabertooths can keep shooting while knocking down missiles, unlike mustangs

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Flanking steel balls or marksman with enough screen seem to work vs stormcallers

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Or my beloved flanking wasps

bright parrot
fallow vapor
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<@&1119755262992068658> doing some mechabelling

quiet oriole
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whoops

spark rain
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@clear heron would appreciate this

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the lv4 fangs were a unit drop and the steel balls on the left were placed this round in desperation

quiet oriole
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that is a very tom looking board

clear heron
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I wound never explode my rhinos

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but yeah this is a fun board

clear heron
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my frontline

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it is balling out of control

fallow vapor
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Will your opponent realize that they can break the line of balls with one (1) Melting Point?

clear heron
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they didn't because I told them I would cry

storm hatch
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also fliers

spark rain
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funny crawlers

spark rain
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i think im a fire badger specialist main now

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its too fun to buy phantom rays and click the 100 dollar oil bomb tech

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and suddenly the enemy is just on fire

olive thicket
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Gosh I can't clear round 9 on survival on very easy.

spark rain
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Free weekend soon that's neat

storm hatch
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wait the mountain isn't an april fools joke?

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> new season who wants to game

solid gazelle
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soonish

spark rain
quiet oriole
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you know what I was thinking seeing the abyss wipe a board

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this game needs a starcraft goliath like unit

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a unit with a mediocre ground attack but strong AA attack

spark rain
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thats kinda marksman/mustang

quiet oriole
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those are two very different units

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unless you mean it'd be a combination of those two units which yeah I guess so

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> i once again call upon the gamers so that we may have mechs ritualistically fight in order to secure mineral rights

quiet oriole
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yeah sure I can do one or two before bed

spark rain
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nice

spark rain
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fuck i mean

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uhhh

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<@&1119755262992068658> the mineral rights call to us

pure parcel
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tempted

quiet oriole
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@clear heron you wanna mechabellum it up

clear heron
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I've got to leave soon unfortunately, just playnig this during breakfast

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I'll be back around boat night hours

quiet oriole
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alrighty

quiet oriole
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which one of us is the cost control player, do you think

spark rain
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judging by the hp bars and the position of units likely available on round 1 i can conclude that....

olive thicket
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Anyone playing a little Mechabellum right now?
I want to play the silly mech game.

grave hearth
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anybody tried the big creature in a game yet?

quiet oriole
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the abyss? yeah

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I don't think it's as good as the war factory which is the main competition

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> who wishes to acquire some mineral rights?

solid gazelle
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Soon-ish aka 10-15 mins

olive thicket
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Ooh. I can try and join!

quiet oriole
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my new verdict is that hounds are busted

clear heron
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they're good dogs, Thijs

quiet oriole
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they clear chaff and with some levels they then also clear 200 cost units outside of tarantulas

clear heron
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they're also really funny because you can get armor on them

olive thicket
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All Hounds are now K9's from Doctor Who.

quiet oriole
noble star
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(Not that that's a ton of games, I'm sure I'm still in the newbie brackets)

quiet oriole
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it beats everything outside of melters in straight up fights while also being a huge pile of hp and being capable of producing its own chaff

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you buy it when you have like 1-2 rounds to go

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because then the upkeep is irrelevant

storm hatch
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it is a big investment though

median wraith
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what a goofy end board

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> it is time for mineral rights comabt

spark rain
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i bought two levels of hitpoints so that my melter and vulcan would survive javelins

spark rain
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it prevented me from losing on the double javlein round just barely

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the opponent bought two abyss on the left side and then i just clicked tower upgrade a bunch and ignored them

quiet oriole
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double javelin round is insane

spark rain
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or like me just losing to eight squads of mustang

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i guess the answer should have been like

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buy a bunch of armored wraiths

quiet oriole
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armoured anything works

storm hatch
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or big units

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you don't necessarily need armor if you can take advantage of their poor dps

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> combat friendship and losing mmr points

pure parcel
pure parcel
quiet oriole
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hound nerf was definitely necessary

pure parcel
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alex now dumber

spark rain
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Specialist All specialists who grant units will now unlock the corresponding units at round 1. this is awesome

clear heron
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yeah

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that's amazing

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you can get round 1 typhoons if you sell your 200 starting unit

olive thicket
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Would anyone like to play the Mechabellum for a little bit?

olive thicket
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I see a chat!

spark rain
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banelings

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i love my banelings

olive thicket
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Thank you for playing the two games Theyflower!

spark rain
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ggs!

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> i call upon the gamers to participate in ritualistic mechanized combat in order to determine mineral rights

quiet oriole
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gimme a couple minutes and I can play

olive thicket
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Ooh!

storm hatch
clear heron
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how dare

olive thicket
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Any silly Mech games today?

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> lets robots

olive thicket
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Booop

quiet oriole
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this guy did not want to buy any unit except sledges

clear heron
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he's just like me for real

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@quiet oriole are you playing now? would you like to co-op?

quiet oriole
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I'm in game

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can play after

fallow vapor
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When all you have is a sledgehammer
Or something

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> whomst abmongst thinee desires robotfights

olive thicket
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Is it time to do the silly mech game?

spark rain
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@olive thicket hello

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maybe

spark rain
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holy moly round 13 in a 2v2

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the steel balls and trantulas in my back were getting mobile beaconed to the side so that when my army recollapsed on the enemy i would have chaff clear and spider mines to distract their units

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my ball of super marksmen sorta bumped into theirs

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i ended up eeking out from the enhanced range command center upgrade and an advanced targetting system

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along with the one melter who managed to get some em missiles off

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those fangs in my back were just so that i have some chaff leftover for the final clash

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those vulkans in the middle on enemy side were lv 9 and 5

spark rain
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rhinos present, @clear heron ping required

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they are evolving

quiet oriole
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round 13, how horrifying

olive thicket
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Just a little bit. My little computer was being a little too slow for the last 4 or so round, that I kept on running out of time to place and move things. It was such a pain.

olive thicket
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Silly Mech noises today?
*sads

storm hatch
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man field maint scorps are good

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ignore the shadow on the left theres nothing important there disregard it

spark rain
storm hatch
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worms!

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replicate is way better than I thought it would be

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nutty tech

spark rain
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worm replicate really pops off it you can direct the flow of the battle effectivley

olive thicket
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Gosh. I just feel awful if I ping anyone.

storm hatch
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I DID THE READ

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I SAW MY OPPONENTS LINES IN MY MINDS EYE

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replicate!

pure parcel
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Hahaha excellent

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> whomst gaming

storm hatch
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I saw this round 4 wf stuff on a youtube video and it is funny

quiet oriole
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I'm an abyss main now

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with the open tower the stupid missile volley actually managed to get a couple on there in the last round lol

clear heron
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excellent

median wraith
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I experimented with abyss when it first came out and mostly ended up using it as a cheesy late round surprise anti air absorber, but I need to try it again now that it got various buffs

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still not sure when I want it though

quiet oriole
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round 4 every game

storm hatch
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I found wf round 4 to be pretty nuts

spark rain
median wraith
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Yeah that's the conclusion I came to

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I think there was really niche use of putting it in front of mildly countered phoenixes

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Because then it would just not die and the combination would kill everything

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But that was about all I found at the time

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Buffs do seem good though

quiet oriole
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efficient maintenance taking away its full upkeep is pretty nice now

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just makes it a huge overlord

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the missile upgrade is crazy too

median wraith
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Oh cool

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I liked that one aesthetically

quiet oriole
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people love going mustangs versus abyss and the missiles really wreck mustangs in particular

median wraith
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I'm surprised it's mustangs, I feel like my intuitive answer would be a range upgraded melter, but yeah that makes sense

storm hatch
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mustangs tend to form lines and the abyss deletes those lines

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also the missiles tend to clear out all the little stuff that it would otherwise waste a laser on

spark rain
storm hatch
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Stangs are kinda overtuned rn

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Very strong tech choices and they get nuts with levels

storm hatch
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Also replicate worms are fucking egregious

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Play asym, throw replicate worms on the offside, laugh

pure parcel
olive thicket
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Any silly <@&1119755262992068658> today?

olive thicket
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People are busy, and that's okay.

pure parcel
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They are, sorry - weird point in time where na is still at work and the EU are asleep

storm hatch
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It keeps working

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Go asym one side, worm replicate flank the weak

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Every time

pure parcel
storm hatch
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Its not that incomprehensible

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You play assymetric to bait your opponent one side then go sandworm + replicate on the weak side in order to rack up larvae by fighting lots of small fights

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Then use mobile beacon to avoid counter units

olive thicket
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Time to <@&1119755262992068658> the processors back to speed?

Any peoples around today?

spark rain
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Hi

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Hnmm

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I was going to take a nap

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I should take my nap

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I'm always saying people should sleep

olive thicket
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Well, are you tired. Or do you need to sleep soon?

spark rain
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I am sleepy

olive thicket
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My general rule is, if I'm sleeping in the next few hours. Is to not nap.

spark rain
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And my phone alarm is set

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Nice early afternoon nap for me

olive thicket
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A nap sounds lovely then.

fallow vapor
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I could mech a bellum in an hour or so

olive thicket
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I'll have a little bit to eat, between now and then. I've had only a little bit so far today.

fallow vapor
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@olive thicket ready when you are

olive thicket
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I be here again!

olive thicket
spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> hello gamers time to build fangs

quiet oriole
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sorry pal, my morning is for grocery shopping

spark rain
quiet oriole
spark rain
quiet oriole
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my level 2 abyss killed three overlords in one sweep today. feels so good

storm hatch
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the legendary double flank

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> gaming

fallow vapor
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Raiden carry

storm hatch
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Why fork over chain?

fallow vapor
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I am not extremely familiar with Raiden tech

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I didn't know what chain did exactly

quiet oriole
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chain makes it jump again past the original target for 25% damage

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usually quite good for catching out squishy high damage targets like marksmen and phoenixes

fallow vapor
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I see. The primary goal of the Raidens was to take out the steel balls

quiet oriole
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in your case you have a wall of your own marksmen though so I think fork's totally fine for clearing the front

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yeah

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I can see it

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chain also gets really brutal with emp

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turning off the backline techs is usually instant death

storm hatch
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I prefer chain because raidens don't move to max out fork shots, so some of the time they'll just zap two units instead of five. Meanwhile chain is pretty consistently six hits which lets it clear chaff a lot faster

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Esp against relatively squishy stuff like hounds

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Against balls fork might be better since they'll run into range but even then mechdiv is going to be a real pain not that your opponent took mechdiv

fallow vapor
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<@&1119755262992068658> is anyone up for a match?

olive thicket
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Oooh!

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Give me 5 minutes.

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Hecks. I had something go brrr. I'll be around around 15 past.

quiet oriole
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I'm becoming a believer in the vape cloud

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gigantic 40% aoe slow on round start that cannot be stopped is so brutal

olive thicket
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Any silly <@&1119755262992068658> today? I'll only have time for one game, so wondering if anyone else is also on right now.

olive thicket
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No more time for me to play right now.
I got the time wrong, I have another almost 2 hours.

wraith glen
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im down if your still playing

olive thicket
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I'm still here. I'll have to relaunch Mechabellum, but I'll need to do that anyways after adding someone.

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Just a forewarning. I'm not amazing. And I've only played like 12 games so far.

wraith glen
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thats fine, im not that good either anywasy lol

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lemme pull my food out of the oven and we can play

olive thicket
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Food is important!

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Eat first if you need to. I have plenty of time.

wraith glen
#

alright im ready to go

storm hatch
quiet oriole
#

yeah but the huge raidens and doubleshot sabers pop the shields basically instantly

#

in that example

#

I find that shields in general pop pretty fast past round 8

quiet oriole
#

1400 mmr in solo. I'm actually enjoying 1v1s now

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> whomst gamers

spark rain
#

i've won with hacers

olive thicket
#

Hii hi. Sooo I got to do something VERY silly with snipers last night.

#

It was SUPER cursed!

wraith glen
#

Hey I was in that game :D.

#

Assault mode snipers go brr

quiet oriole
#

intimidating

fallow vapor
#

But did you lose?

quiet oriole
#

I did.

spark rain
#

the backlines have been defeated

fallow vapor
#

Ha, nice

clear heron
#

@spark rain take that

spark rain
#

Fuck

quiet oriole
fallow vapor
#

Got 'em in Round 6. Arclights clean house

fallow vapor
quiet oriole
#

that's a lot of phoenix

#

this was a fun one. I gotta do armoured rays tanking for wasps more often

#

the wasp unit with the laser sights was level 8 lol

spark rain
#

lmao

#

<@&1119755262992068658> its mineral rights time

#

or maybe we had the same dream

clear heron
#

so is this the dev at all

#

or is your source: this guy on reddit?

quiet oriole
#

it came to a guy on reddit in a dream

clear heron
#

powerful enemy username combo

fallow vapor
#

<@&1119755262992068658> anyone up for a game?

spark rain
#

i cannot now

quiet oriole
#

a peenix win

fallow vapor
#

That is a juiced up Phoenix

wraith glen
#

I remember reading somewhere that vertically placed hounds are really bad because splash hits more of them instead of less

storm hatch
#

yeah but the staggered shots can be useful

wraith glen
#

is the formation even long enough for the shots to be significantly staggered? I know that works on sledges but their formations is almost twice as long

storm hatch
#

weirdly yes

#

I've found that they get stuck on big stuff a little less

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> whomst wishes to perhaps make robots fight. why? who knows, but surely a reason will come to someone in a dream

fallow vapor
#

I can in about an hour

spark rain
#

i won't have time by then

#

gotta run monster of the week

fallow vapor
#

I'm genuinely at a loss as to how to deal with high level phantom rays on the flanks

storm hatch
#

chaff

#

get em stuck on stangs or crawlers to pop stealth then melters/phoenixes/etc to kill

#

stealth lets them close any distance and gives them a fat damage bonus so you need to make them waste their shots

quiet oriole
#

yeah charge shot phoenixes is what I'd put there behind some fangs

#

also deals reasonably well with the rhinos

storm hatch
#

Charge shot gets slept on

#

its kinda ridiculous

fallow vapor
#

<@&1119755262992068658> anyone up for some games?

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> hello its gaming time for the mineral rights (trust me it came to a guy on reddit in his dream)

median wraith
#

I've been really interested in the unfolding mineral rights lore here and I went and scoured the client for any mention of mineral rights and no dice yet

#

maybe it's hidden in the tutorials but I didn't want to sit through all of those and it wasn't in the first one

clear heron
#

the lore is that it came to someone on reddit in a dream, and then theyflower read that one comment in the sea of other hypothetical lore comments and latched onto it

median wraith
#

but what if it's REAL

#

I want to believe

spark rain
#

right?

quiet oriole
#

gotta be some crazy minerals to justify all the stuff we're blowing up over them

spark rain
#

i bet there's some vespene gas, too

noble star
#

Maybe we have super good recycling tech, and they comb the battlefield with giant mecha-zambonis to gather up all the scrap

median wraith
#

they just let out a pack of crawlers with duplicate at the end of the battle and then gather them all up

quiet oriole
#

I've become a wasp main

clear heron
#

also I do hold that splash attack is really good, because it lets them beat mustangs

quiet oriole
#

they beat mustangs like this already

#

as soon as the wasp can oneshot the stang they win and all you really need for that is ground spec

#

and rays + armour tank them indefinitely too. and it induces the opponent to buy fort AA which you can counter with the factory. it's all in the plan

storm hatch
#

worms!

storm hatch
#

I want to know how those wasps got to level 9 though

#

even with intensive training level 9 at round 9 is.....a lot

quiet oriole
#

sure you have a range disadvantage but there's always other stuff in the way first

#

unless things go very wrong they are not taking much or any shots before they can shoot back

#

especially with levels and elite marksman

storm hatch
#

I guess with that many levels and ground spec it's harder to tank but you can absolutely get stangs to selectively target air units

#

Also interesting that your opponent went for emp phoenix

quiet oriole
#

the emp was a last round attempt to try and shut down the AM war factory iirc

fallow vapor
#

four Abyss, wow

storm hatch
# fallow vapor *four* Abyss, wow

I was originally kinda worried about it since I didn't have charge shot but the phoenixes did fine and my opponent had so much in the absysses that they had no answer to the worms

#

And the worms really mess with the abyss because burrow

#

Love worms

#

So good

quiet oriole
#

closing in on 1500

#

made an important shop purchase to celebrate

quiet oriole
fallow vapor
#

<@&1119755262992068658> game time?

fallow vapor
#

Notch another one for Mustangs in the wasps vs. mustangs arms race

quiet oriole
#

those wasps look like crap.

#

here's a real wasp

quiet oriole
#

I am on rise

clear heron
#

i think you're twice as good as me now

quiet oriole
#

it's all thanks to the humble wasp

median wraith
#

The climb

median wraith
#

okay wait the high level wasps with range is kinda cooking

#

I tried it myself and they're pretty lit

#

splashed mothership overlords but I'm not sure if that was really worth it

quiet oriole
#

yeah I wouldn't spring for those I think, too expensive for what they bring to the table

#

if I'm in a carry wasp game, my money is spent on wasps and things that keep wasps alive

quiet oriole
#

often this means some combination of chaff clear or tanking unit

#

or both (vulcan)

quiet oriole
#

@fallow vapor did you want to mechabellum or were you just dropping in to watch

fallow vapor
#

I was just dropping in to watch

quiet oriole
#

cool cool

fallow vapor
#

Good match, by the way

quiet oriole
#

did you like the donut delivery beacon

fallow vapor
#

That was dirty

quiet oriole
fallow vapor
#

I was impressed with the range you got on the hounds, too

quiet oriole
#

range upgrade and tower range adds up yeah

#

I was worried I was going to get outscaled by everyone picking super supply but I think efficient tech turned out better anyway

clear heron
#

if you buy 5 techs a round it equals out

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> who wants to gain or lose matchmaking points while we fight over whether or not that guy on reddit dreamt the mineral rights

quiet oriole
#

I'm just finishing up cooking, I can be around in like 15 minutes

quiet oriole
#

how odd

spark rain
#

this person said this after in the first round having an army made of only arclights and steel balls

#

sarcasically saying how original to a round 2 scorpion

quiet oriole
#

you're only allowed to build units that die to their units

spark rain
#

so original

spark rain
#

originality wins again

#

on the last round wasps was offered and we boht pick it

#

but i clicked air spec on my wasps so they absolutely wiped the enemy wasps

#

and then my opponent's "only damage is in the sky" kinda just died to all my anti aie

#

also double antimisssile war factory vs those phantom rays was very nodamage

#

<@&1119755262992068658> minerals

clear heron
#

EM armor and Suppressing fire will be fun to play around with

#

wonder how the armor interacts with EMP itself

storm hatch
#

Oh holy shit em armor turns off bubbles

spark rain
#

this unit looks fucked up

#

it does some weird new stuff in a pretty game warping way

#

the only unit that's been addied since i started playing that was even close to game warpering this much has gotta be the hound

#

scorpion, ufo, and phantom ray all performed a new niche that was kinda missing

storm hatch
#

100 cost is interesting

#

very flexible techs which I like

olive thicket
#

Um. The Void Eye looks REALLY STRONG for 100 cost.

#

I can't wait to go max ranged.

storm hatch
#

It gets stuck on chaff but yeah

#

P squishy too

olive thicket
#

Okiee. Assault mode Marksmen with full range upgrades and EMP and range mod go brrr then.

olive thicket
quiet oriole
#

em shield and the range reduction is gonna be so cursed

wraith glen
#

Does em armor get turned off by em shot first or do they both get turned off do you think

clear heron
#

i wonder if it will also just provide em protection

spark rain
#

oh if it's 100 cost that's pretty sweet

#

i'll probably get to buy them against sledges round 1

#

or steel balls

#

mispinged someone tying to hit the mechabellum role

#

<@&1119755262992068658> hello gamers (but stastically speaking probably just thijs) who wants to robot fighting

quiet oriole
#

I'm in a game rn

#

I'll be around later

fallow vapor
#

Unfortunately I'm in front of Bad Screen for another 6 hours

spark rain
#

this is the funniest win i've had in a long time

#

my chaff fangs managed to kill the freshly made raidens

#

on round 2 i was offered mass produced sabertooth so i just made 3

#

then on round 3 i was given 4 fangs from a unit drop

#

and on round 4 i got additional slot and bought four more sabertooth

#

round 5 unit dropped lv4 cralwers i put one flank and two in the back

#

havingthis many sabertooth with the side gun felt very silly

spark rain
quiet oriole
quiet oriole
spark rain
#

i think there was also a lot of fist self damage

spark rain
spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> robots? i think so

olive thicket
#

I'm playing D&D right now. Sorry.

clear heron
#

(alas, I'm at work now so I can't load in to dispute this and then also play, sorry. )

fallow vapor
#

Crawlers, on the other hand, run Linux

quiet oriole
#

some of them have quite visible cockpits yeah

#

on others I kinda feel like, how can people possibly fit in

#

like if you look at a vulcan I think it's going for a two tiered cockpit area

#

but looking at the size of the ground troopers I don't think they can possibly fit

pure parcel
quiet oriole
#

honestly yeah why not

wraith glen
#

Its a decoy cockpit so they dont shoot the important bits /s

clear heron
quiet oriole
spark rain
wraith glen
#

Time to emp all the things

spark rain
#

i think this is the first counter to regen items

#

to this day i dont run heal tech on sandworms because i prefer giving it the item

storm hatch
#

I don't think heal tech is very good on worms tbph

#

imo replicate gets you better results in terms of hp generation and considerably better performance against melters or balls

#

Or scorps

#

Ngl I am kinda surprised how many people here run symmetric standard boards

#

I really prefer assymetric and aggressive board postures

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> play with new robots

quiet oriole
#

the heal tech isn't good for worms but nano repair item is ridiculous

olive thicket
#

Silly mech game!

#

Update is taking a little while. Gosh, it's a large update. It might be done by half past.

spark rain
#

I thought "my opponent loses if I buy a lot of wasps right now" and then i got unit dropped three level two wasps and bought four more thanks to my additional deployment slot

#

and then suddenly there's just seven level two wasp squads with ground spec

olive thicket
#

Sorry about that. Mechabellum is now updated.

spark rain
#

i think the eyeball unit is probably very bad

#

it's like the hounds of marksman but bad

median wraith
#

haven't tried them yet, what makes you say that? just like, all the weaknesses of marksmen but also short ranged and ground only?

#

trying to think of when I'd want them

#

I could maybe see putting them behind tarantulas early rounds

storm hatch
#

I think part of what makes hounds so good is that you explicitly don't want them all firing at the same target so them being five bodies instead of one arc is good

#

For eyes its the opposite where you want them all shooting at the same big thing

quiet oriole
#

I've mostly been seeing people use them essentially as budget phoenixes via the air upgrade

median wraith
#

tried them a bit since this afternoon and so far I'm pretty underwhelmed, though I also do prefer if they release a new (especially 100 cost) unit underpowered to overpowered

quiet oriole
#

had an extremely comedic final round in this game

#

everything that's turned around facing the flank crawlers there? they:

  1. walked at those crawlers and killed them,
  2. kept walking to the crawlers all the way in the back and killed them, and
  3. then aggro'd onto my underground threat which I put in between their towers
#

also slightly off screen there were 4 packs of level 3-4 wasps. because you know how it is.

storm hatch
#

three packs of flank phoons is an odd choice

#

no single target

fallow vapor
#

<@&1119755262992068658> who's up for a game?

median wraith
#

I am a wasp convert

#

thank you for showing me the light

quiet oriole
#

🐝

quiet oriole
#

+1 wasp win

#

although the worms were the real stars

spark rain
#

does the armor also go on the larva?

storm hatch
#

it does not

median wraith
#

I've been pretty into starting elite specialist and selling one of my starting 200 unit packs and buying a round 1 rank 2 rhino and then just doing stupid aggro stuff

#

the carry wasps with jump drive get pretty funny with it because you can just leave once they finally counter you on one side

olive thicket
#

I LOVE Elite Specialist soooo much!

median wraith
#

I do think they make some pretty fun games, along with cost control, I like the two extremes of no cash and lots of cash

storm hatch
#

personally I think cost control is one of the strongest specs in the game because of how easily you can tech counters

#

11% can sting in certain cases (hounds vs crawlers) but being able to have just 50% more units is fantastic

median wraith
#

yea cost control feels good

olive thicket
#

I've been loving Sledges with armour tech. And Hounds and Range & Anti Missile tech Mustangs.
Supported by Snipers and a high level Phoenix with Elite tech.

Then nom their towers with the tech that increases speed and reduced attack time on Crawlers.

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> the video game

#

sorry to the guy whose name autocompleted over the role name and got pung

vocal gale
#

HELLO

#

hey hows it going

pure parcel
#

LOL

quiet oriole
#

it keeps happening

quiet oriole
leaden jacinth
#

Wouldnt a more sensical way to say it be: bellum some mechs?
Cosnidering bellum is war in latin, so meching some wars makes less sense to me then waring some mechs

#

:p

quiet oriole
#

played against this genius of mechabellum at 1750 mmr: round 3 war factory in the corner spamming out the constructed units

leaden jacinth
#

Ah yes, the boring strat, thankfully it doesnt work too well anymore

spark rain
#

this guy owned my stormcallers so hard that he lost on round 5 wen i bought a super supply enhancement

#

he started out with units that lose to arclights and one squad of eyes which are units that lose

#

and then just kinda kept doubling down

#

also the collapses ended up packing the oppo's units very tight together

quiet oriole
#

rip to a void eye gamer

#

no doubt it'll soon be buffed

#

they should give it the heavy targeting upgrade that steel balls get

fallow vapor
#

Oh, that would be interesting
Making chaff screens less useful

quiet oriole
#

yeah then you can actually tech it to be a debuff unit

wraith glen
#

Thats probably the best idea ive seen for buffing it yet

#

Tho i still think the idea of making its attack a line aoe is sick

olive thicket
#

I was trying out the practice arena while my internet was a little bad. And the Void Eyes are pretty bad.

quiet oriole
#

phoenix and tarantula nerfs

#

and

#

Void Eye

HP 844 → 1097 (+30%)
【Suppression Shots】now also increases Void Eye's range by 15
【Aerial Mode】Price 150 → 200

Developer's note: Data shows that the Void Eye is relatively weak. These changes aim to give the Void Eye more tactical options. In the next few weeks, we will likely continue to adjust the tweak with Void Eye more.

spark rain
#

i knew void eyes were dogshit

#

<@&1119755262992068658> who wants to see if void eyes are strong enough to beat us, the void eye deniers

fallow vapor
#

I could

spark rain
quiet oriole
#

friday is my helldivers night, alas

spark rain
#

i used eyes intentionally one time

#

basically as a baneling counter

#

i also took them in a unit drop because everything else seemed so meh

median wraith
#

I've had one game where eyes were good and it was because I got a pack of several level 2 eyes at once in an early round and my opponent was pretty committed to mid sized units

#

I've just been avoiding them mostly

quiet oriole
#

yeah I've picked a 3x level 3 eyes pack from a unit drop once

#

jsut for dps

spark rain
#

Yeah it 3x lv2 or like some lv3 units that weren't very good for me

#

But my enemy had sledges so maybe it would help

#

Also the improved scorpion card has got to be one of the best

#

. Up there with extended range Vulcan

#

<@&1119755262992068658> its time for us to robots

median wraith
#

is there an easy way to check what cards are currently in the card pool?

quiet oriole
#

proof you don't need to run shields on your wasps because the game will give you some anyway

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> who wants to game up on some robots

quiet oriole
#

I could do in about 10 minutes

spark rain
#

nice high roll

spark rain
#

unit drop of melting points right after i buy the surprise war factory to counter those level 3 stormcallers but my opponent simply did not shield vs the smoke bomb i holstered last round and decided to buy an abyss for no reason

#

fang saber is pretty comfy early

spark rain
#

im a big fang enjoyer now

#

also i had cheetofinger forts

#

it barely didn't oneshot the lv2 melters

spark rain
#

absolutely psychotic purchase decision from my enemy

wraith glen
#

But did it work?

spark rain
#

yeah

#

but not to the end

spark rain
#

assault scorpion is a weird tech

quiet oriole
#

man they have no idea what they're doing with the void eyes

spark rain
#

now they will die AFTER all the random 95 range units

wraith glen
#

So theyre making it a discount sledge group? Or like wth are these changes

clear heron
#

I think the base unit is trying to be to the marksman what the hounds are to the arclight

spark rain
#

sure but spreading out your chaff clear damage lets you kill more chaff. Spreading out your single target kills three targets in the same time as killing them one at a time which means they all do damage for longer:(

quiet oriole
#

they do a lot more dps than a marksman but their low range just gets them killed. so I sorta see the logic of giving them more hp, especially with their weird tank techs

quiet oriole
#

me and tom tried a 2v2 tournament today

#

as it turns out the lobby automatically sorts you into advanced/intermediate/rookie groups

#

pretty neat

#

I'd be down to try these more often

#

@clear heron I don't know if these happen on saturday but we could probably fit it before boat night if it happens at the same time

clear heron
#

probably could

#

I've been busy with Nightreign but it'd be fun to hang out more

spark rain
#

the cheeto men of doom

quiet oriole
#

@dreamy bramble here you are

dreamy bramble
#

👍

pure parcel
spark rain
#

    Removed [Quick Cooldown]


Developer's note: [Quick Cooldown] has too much influence on specific matchups. We have decided to temporarily remove this card and bring it back after finding a suitable balance solution for it. ```
#

this is very reasonablew

#

it makes missile specialist and training specialist so strong when it happens to show up

#

i wonder if the void eye buffs are enough yet

quiet oriole
#

on to the graveyard of cards it goes

clear heron
#

I want an Assault Specialist

#

who either gets all the Assault X cards, or guarantees them in each drop

#

(specifically I want Assault Stormcaller to be more consostently available)

spark rain
quiet oriole
#

assault specialist would be fun as hell

#

send your idea to china immediately

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> who robots

quiet oriole
#

abyss gaming

#

featuring every fucking mustang ever made

median wraith
#

that is a lot of mustangs

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> lets go to war

pure parcel
spark rain
#

VOID EYE NERFED

fallow vapor
#

Finally, they were getting oppressive

spark rain
#

it looks like the anti techtech was made counterable by anti tech techs

quiet oriole
#

our long national nightmare is over

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> whomst mineral wrongs

spark rain
#

<@&1119755262992068658> it's time for robots to fight

leaden jacinth
spark rain
#

uuu ok

spark rain
leaden jacinth
#

meow :3

quiet oriole
#

looks like mountain is imminent

fallow vapor
#

Oh no, what will I do against all these eyes

quiet oriole
#

sakura dogs, mountain and farseer are becoming core units, and they want to implement buildings at some point

fickle temple
#

finally got the pink phoenix in the closing hours of the season

#

went on a nice winstreak to do it too, season high mmr

quiet oriole
#

dang nice

pure parcel
#

Farseer core

#

Okay this melting point emoji fucks

quiet oriole
#

large support unit now always large supporting

clear heron
#

I love the large support vehicle!

#

Ooh, burst mode

spark rain
#

an no longer be selected multiple times in a single match

#

lol

spark rain
clear heron
#

the Large Support Vehicle

#

The new music is definitely a buff to Tommy

clear heron
#

just won what might actually be my most cunniving game

#

earlier, I had dropped oil on that typhoon to slow it down and keep it behind the super command center

#

but then I dropped it on my enemy's main line

#

and then the vulcan ignited it that final round

fallow vapor
#

<@&1119755262992068658> anyone up for a match?

spark rain
#

hi

#

yes

spark rain
#

i got level 1 stormcaller blaze skin!!!

#

thats so good

#

it means i won't ever make this mistake of leveling them

#

@fallow vapor are you there?

spark rain
#

i clicked advancted targetting twice and then got farseer lv1 dropped so i just had mini marksmen

quiet oriole
#

the angry melting point emote is all the way at diamond III

#

guess that's the goal for this season

fallow vapor
quiet oriole
#

currently in one but happy to play after

quiet oriole
#

@fallow vapor ready when you are

fallow vapor
#

@clear heron join us for a 4 player brawl

clear heron
#

do we have a 4th?

quiet oriole
#

we do not

#

also we hopped into a 2v2

fallow vapor
#

<@&1119755262992068658> we need 1 more for a 4 player brawl

quiet oriole
#

mountain review: does not seem that great

clear heron
#

it's really funny with 360 range in brawl though

quiet oriole
#

should I spend all my credits on this melter heart emote

clear heron
#

no

#

melters deserve no love

#

and actually, only scorn

quiet oriole
#

😔

clear heron
#

<-- resident giant and linked unit enjoyer

quiet oriole
#

come hang out

clear heron
#

playing Sunderfolk with other group

quiet oriole
#

alas

quiet oriole
clear heron
#

I'm farming you for insight

#

keep winning

quiet oriole
#

🫡

fallow vapor
clear heron
#

lol

quiet oriole
#

rip our tournament run

#

killed by farseers

clear heron
#

I keep running into enemies who are spamming void eyes

#

I don't know what's up with it

#

but Raiden has been a really effective counter to it

quiet oriole
#

gotta grab your free mmr when it's offered

quiet oriole
#

a feels good win

fallow vapor
#

Your opponent taking phantom rays into that quantity of juiced up Fangs is a fascinating choice

quiet oriole
#

the rays were a last round flank

#

from a unit drop. can't really blame him for it

#

I took the balls instead which did their job of dying on the enemy's side of the board and becoming 5 crawlers each

#

I was on 180 hp from like round 4 onward lol

leaden jacinth
fallow vapor
#

I mistook the crawlers for fangs.

pure parcel
spark rain
#

Farseer tech change wow

#

Guess I'm removing the big white covering tech for that

#

And also probably not buy marksman as much

quiet oriole
#

hmm maybe

#

I feel like I often end up with marksmen because I have to buy a round 2 AA unit and there's nothing else

quiet oriole
#

-10 is definitely the closest to 0 that I've seen a game end on

quiet oriole
scenic rock
#

There any good video resources for a newcomer to Mechabellum in 2025? Or will AI matches get me caught up good in terms of basics on using cards and what units do what?

fallow vapor
#

I think AI matches will do just fine

quiet oriole
#

yeah for just basic seeing what the units do AI matches are totally fine

#

for more than that, the best way to get caught up is probably to just throw yourself on the ladder or do 2v2s with folks here

fallow vapor
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There's maybe advanced knowledge about what attack vales hit HP breakpoints, but I've skated by OK just based on vibes

quiet oriole
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there's only a few breakpoints like that remaining in mechabellum

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I remember there was one video from a strong player about a year ago that helped me with some basic rules to apply

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09pbB0q4Vrs here it is. has some bad AI voiceover but otherwise it's still good

RAT's rules to skyrocket your MMR. These tips and tricks are geared towards players who are stuck in the MMR range of about 0-1500. I played a lot of games against players that were between ~1000 and 1400 MMR, watched some replays also and analyzed what they did wrong. Here are some simplified rules that you can follow to not go into a bad rabbi...

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scenic rock
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Yeah it shouldn't be too hard to throw things at a wall and see what sticks

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Is there a preferred wiki compilation of units? I see MechaMonarch and Mechabellum.wiki

quiet oriole
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think the .wiki is the most up to date

fallow vapor
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Let us know when you want to get into a multiplayer game!

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And pick up the role

scenic rock
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Yeah I should be able to fiddle around tonight after shift and get acclimated, will keep y'all posted

quiet oriole
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the powerful 1% farseer buff

clear heron
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Mountain getting regular range enhancement is really funny

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I know it lost it in the saturation tech, but still

fickle temple
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it's striving for it

spark rain
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wait farseer burst mode? sounds maybe really good

fallow vapor
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My opponent was a big fan of Marksman

quiet oriole
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can't remember the last time I've seen anyone run quick reload on those guys

leaden jacinth
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last tech

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if anything

leaden jacinth
scenic rock
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I've managed to do the tutorials in the Commander academy, bought me a cosmetic avatar frame, and now have a whole tech point - these seem to be in short supply. Are there any priority tech upgrades that are cool? Was thinking anti air upgrade for tarantulas since I have a shiny skin from beta

fallow vapor
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hm

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Elite Marksman for the Marksman is good

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Range upgrades on a lot of stuff is useful

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Scorch on Vulkans, I don't remember if that's an unlock

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Mechanical Division for steel balls

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That's what occurs to me off the top of my head.

fickle temple
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you get one every like 1-2 games

fallow vapor
fallow vapor
scenic rock
fallow vapor
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Let me know when you are ready

scenic rock
scenic rock
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bless the rank 7 sabertooth drop card, singlehandedly buying time for my teammate's many Mustangs and Typhoons to fix my blunders

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Is there a good way for Fangs to get to the fight faster or are they meant to be more of a stand and bang flank defender

fallow vapor
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You can get Mechanical Rage and range upgrade

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But they will always be kinda slow

scenic rock
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I do like how with the Ignite they're pretty good vs lone Heavies

fickle temple
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they're chaff

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carry fang is a thing but its not usually very good

spark rain
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dont allow the haters to crap on carryfang

scenic rock
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What's a good way to punch the worms in the face and is it more melee units like Rhinos

clear heron
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I always like crawlers + steel balls

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crawlers surround and keep it occupied, balls melt it eventually

quiet oriole
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I usually go for a scorpion with acid when dealing with leveled worms

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melters and steel balls can do the trick but you run the real risk of the worm diving underground and resetting your beam

bright parrot
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Having a staggered approach on your crawlers helps to feed the worm steadily

scenic rock
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What's a good way to punch a round 5-6 Abyss? It sure does blow up big chunks of sledgehammers and chaff good; throwing a bunch of anti air tarantulas and fortresses seemed to luck out but I probably need a real air unit

leaden jacinth
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Melter with range or/and absorption

scenic rock
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Oh wow, they hit air too - how about that

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Are the electromagnetic missiles a good pickup on the Melting Point?

leaden jacinth
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The missiels dont hit air

quiet oriole
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burst mode farseers do the trick too

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AA spiders are good for clearing wasps and maybe phantom rays. I personally don't run the tech

leaden jacinth
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i run it, cause with how good the spooder chaff clear is its a shame to have to buy a new unit just cause the enemy bought air chaff

spark rain
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there was a unit drop of 2 lv1 vulkan and my opponent clicked the oil+fire missle techs on it and I instantly lost

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and immediately stole that cheese

scenic rock
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What, like the oil from the command center to cook your own vulcans?

spark rain
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no

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vulkans have a tech where the shoot oil missiles

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and another tech where they shoot fire missiles

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so if you click both they create a big fire zone on the enemy board

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and if your opponent does't have any reason to have the counters for it (you dont have storms, etc) then they might just get all their chaff incinerated

scenic rock
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That's a lotta fire

spark rain
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but also antimissile will hurt it

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or hounds with the air conditioner

scenic rock
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Do the hounds gotta walk over to the fire to put it out or is it ranged, hadn't had a chance to use it yet

leaden jacinth
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they are managable, but still

leaden jacinth
spark rain
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they are managable but sometimes the unit drop

leaden jacinth
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idr how large, 42 i think?

spark rain
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its pretty big

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not too hard to have solid coverage

leaden jacinth
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yea, you need like 4 hounds if you are in aggro or like 6-7 in standard

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so in case of aggro you can pretty much set yourself up good in one tunr

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in standard its worse

scenic rock
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By aggro is it like a aggro vs turtle kinda build order thing or is it a tech

leaden jacinth
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aggro in mechabellum refers to aggresive on the line play, usually asymmetrical

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so you have most units on one side, which is why you need less hounds, cause you have less ground to cover from fire

scenic rock
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That makes sense, though seems like it might need shield bubbles to ward off sentry missiles

leaden jacinth
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depends

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early sentries are a trap for the person using them, unless you use them to preventetivly protect your flanks

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later on its better to use AMDs rather then bubbles to protect from sentries

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id love to play, but my damn laptop cant handle mechabellum

scenic rock
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Oh, huh, didn't realize the AMDs shot them down, that's a good play

leaden jacinth
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so i have to wait untill im back at my pc

scenic rock
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Marksmen seem kinda cool with the assault mode tech kinda like half a Sabertooth, anyone have good experience with them?

fallow vapor
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I think the idea is that it's useful as a tech switch

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If your marksmen start getting countered by mass Sledgehammer or something

scenic rock
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Sledgehammers do seem pretty cool for busting Arclights

spark rain
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<@&1119755262992068658> anyone want to robots fighting?

fallow vapor
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yes

scenic rock
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Are there good tips for late rounds (like 7+) because I tend to fall apart versus things like rank 5-7 enemy overlords or the nuke

scenic rock
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Good set of matches tonight, managed to somehow out do melting points and overlords with eight million Mustangs; anyone interested/around in duo queues tomorrow <t:1753830000:F>?

quiet oriole
scenic rock
quiet oriole
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yeah

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exactly that

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people tend to pick the war factory for it because it's a huge slab of hp and the guns independently target, so it tends to not get stuck on things as badly

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abyss with missiles is also a valid pick if your opponent has a nice big line of similarly ranged units like mustangs and scorpions

scenic rock
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I tried Mountain with the AA ammo a bit to try to compensate versus Raidens and it seemed neat; Raidens and Melting Points tend to be what I have trouble getting past right now since I can't seem to figure out how to win chaff wars without giant units

quiet oriole
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things tend to go that way. the game is pretty tempo based at the moment, once some big units get some levels they can really run away with the game

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if you're not clearing without giants I recommend building more tarantulas though

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they're the premier chaff clear unit right now

median wraith
quiet oriole
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yeah late fangs, late steel balls, mass produced wasps or sledges, there's a bunch of ways to feed stuff into a melter in a way that occupies it in the most annoying way at the cheapest price for you

scenic rock
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Stormcallers with the fire missiles seem neat as a backline anti-chaff measure and Sandworms with Strike seem like an interesing option

quiet oriole
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fire callers was very good for a long time but it's a big investment that's begging to get anti missiled out

scenic rock
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How do the fire missile hounds compare in practicality? The long range on their fire bomb seems pretty decent to keep them relevant later on

quiet oriole
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worms can eat a lot of stuff in a pinch but if they're covered in crawlers the aforementioned melter has time to lock on

quiet oriole
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for a while every second game was people doing fire hounds with oil bomb phantom rays

scenic rock
quiet oriole
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but they patched something with shields a while back so that they were better at stopping oil and fire from spreading

scenic rock
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Would the bubble shields like on Fortress prevent oil/fire under it?

quiet oriole
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yep

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if it impacts on the shield it doesn't aoe spread under it, which was the case before

scenic rock
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The other thing that's been tough to play around has been life leech items on a big body - do EMP rounds disable items or just the techs?

quiet oriole
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emp only disables tech

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if you want to stop absorption module from working your only option is ignite

scenic rock
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I do like Ignite tech yeah; EMP has been pretty neat throwing it on Marksmen as debuffers

quiet oriole
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emp can be incredibly nasty yeah

spark rain
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i have bigger aoe and emp on my stormcallers its so nice it means if one missile gets through they all start to trickle in