just got killed from max health and shields by a neurothrope
#Space Marine 2
vestal cedar
ok apparently you cannot stagger the gun warriors out of shooting you so that's fun
vestal cedar
YEAAAAAAAAH
ALL 7 DONE
LETS GO
i did the last one with a lvl 8 assault and a lvl 19 heavy too surprisingly
lets fucking go
vestal cedar
ok only have death guard left then i've bought all cosmetics
wanton grail
NOOO THEY'RE NOT GIVING SNIPER THE NEW PISTOL
grand lantern
lmfao fuck that
modest oxide
who all is getting it?
grand lantern
Bulwark, Assault, Vanguard
modest oxide
How so?
wanton grail
How so?
both are beam weapons and fusil has a thing that states "boosts radius of beam weapons"
modest oxide
Ohh, weird, neat
wanton grail
*Vanguard* is getting it?
i totally get giving it to assault and bulwark but VANGUARD?!?!?!
wanton grail
nah its a continuous laser beam
grand lantern
*ahh, the sidearm experts*
Sniper is lowkey the 3rd sidearm expert because your primary is insanely pinched on ammo
wanton grail
fr
modest oxide
I get so much melee damage on Sniper
grand lantern
the knoife is pretty good and you're gonna want to use it a lot yeah
modest oxide
I can't imagine playing Sniper on a difficulty with limited ammo boxes.. ogh
the difference in having one is so stark, it's like a reward for having low armor and 15 bullets
Heldrake Fight with a sniper is so different
wanton grail
im so mad lol
grand lantern
I had kinda assumed that the cost money weapons were gonna be on anyone
grand lantern
Oh is it? I thought it was a season pass thing
modest oxide
The only moneycost from the season pass is the fashion
But does suck only some classes getting a new toy
proper cosmos
I'm curious how the gunstrikes are gonna work with it
viral patio
I'm hoping it's good at killing Zoanthropes
because I mostly play the three classes who get it, and I struggle with Zoanthropes
worldly pebble
playing ruthless decapitation with randoms is fun and definitely not infuriating
i have failed Four Times, once bc my teammates are dipshits and wiped at the finish line
and twice because the game DCed me in the middle of it
and the last time bc my connection thought that DCing me after my team wiped, spawning me back at the beginning after i've already cleared the map and softlocked myself is Fun Game Design
i might ask for a lobby from here one of these days bc i just Can't do it. it genuinely gets under my skin
was it on me for playing assault? oh you bet your ass it was-
but i think i might not have gotten farther with anything bar meltagun with the sheer Volume of enemies
grand lantern
I'd be down to tackle it
worldly pebble
yeah i just need to break into ruthless a couple times to get some armory data
grand lantern
I just finished my schoolwork if you wanna try now
vocal spade
Honestly sniper needs a new pistol just for varietys sake tbh
tame surge
On another note, we’ve seen your feedback about “Blocking” weapons feeling unsatisfying to play with, and are currently in the process of reworking them!
oh, nice. That's also good to hear.
tame surge
I'm hoping it's good at killing Zoanthropes
Based on the description, it really ought to be - it's particularly good against organic matter, and deals ramping damage.
The zoans hold still reasonably well, so they should be pretty susceptible to it. But ofc we'll have to see.
brisk notch
I feel it will be a beam weapon with high fire rate and actuall range
lilac haven
> On another note, we’ve seen your feedback about “Blocking” weapons feeling uns...
let me slap attacking enemies with a shield when i get this game please please please
tame surge
I mean, shield bash does already exist and is ok.
Not great, because frankly, all melee is at least somewhat underpowered, but it's there.
vestal cedar
grabbing all the dataslates
and
the ||final three missions being one continuous segment|| is so fucking annoying for this
vestal cedar
i'm so fucking annoyed, i missed one of them and it's literally the last one i have left
so now i need to redo the entirety of the the first part of the ||three mission finale|| just to get to it
i kinda get why you can't ||launch the Bellum Sempiternus mission from the battle barge, since you don't go there from the battle barge, but it doesn't make it any less shit||
vestal cedar
ok got all dataslates yippeee
granite zinc
Zoanthropes really are tiresome to deal with, specially if you are an assault or Bulwark
vestal cedar
it's just straight up not fun
in any way
i play Vanguard with Melta and my ability to do anything about them is next to none
i got my funny helmet at least
for the true Lamenters Experience™️
wanton grail
Thinking about picking up bulwark
vestal cedar
doing some achievement hunting, it's going good
going to grab all three of the pvp type achievements, the "win a match with all classes" achievement and i got the 5 kills without dying achievement
icy cedar
Recently finished campaign on veteran. (Curse you ai bots)
Been playing bulwark, and got to the third(?) difficulty now.
Zoanthropes are the - time to dump most of my plasma pistol ammo with charged shots into it
vestal cedar
Yeah they suck ass
granite zinc
granite zinc
Zoanthropes are the - time to dump most of my plasma pistol ammo with charged sh...
Agreed, Zoantropes are unfun
vestal cedar
nerf them more
modest oxide
Just make em a different enemy we don't need a baby version of the weirdest boss fight
worldly pebble
shield swap cooldown should get doubled tbh.
granite zinc
Make them have a high melee weakness tbh
grand lantern
When do you get a chance to melee them with any reliability?
granite zinc
When do you get a chance to melee them with any reliability?
There is a moment the ystart to send waves across the ground, you can dodge forward and get inside their bubble safely and start to melee it, they will go down and will go back up with a burst of energy after a few seconds.
grand lantern
Oh you meant neurothropes
granite zinc
He will go down and it will look like this-
Oh
Yeah
viral patio
Neurothropes are easier and harder, in different ways
they have damage gating, I think, during the phase when they can be meleed
woven vigil
honestly if we had more ammo there wouldnt be an issue with the thropes
problem is assault or bulwark will run out of ammo halfway through a neuro fight
vestal cedar
TIL that you can zoom your aim with more weapons than just sniper
stray smelt
Yeah, that's how you use the grenade launcher on the grenade rifle
vestal cedar
just learned about it while farming sniper kills and accidentally zoomed with the pistol
vestal cedar
ok i only have two achievements left to do
the absolute dogshit that is Purge them all(mark all enemiy types) and Still a True Son of the Emperor(kill 41k enemies)
gonna leave Purge them all for another day since you apparently have to do like, every enemy except for Hive Tyrant and Heldrake in the story since both of those are operations only
vestal cedar
😌
grand lantern
vestal cedar
Yippeee
copper swallow
Awoooooo something new to level on my Vanguard and Bulwark
Oh nice, Bolt Carbine buffs and Occulus Carbine buffs
I'd been avoiding it, figuring it was bad
south swallow
ive not touched sm in a bit, hows the volkite pistol?
grand lantern
It’s pretty fun
Shoots a big red beam which heats people up and makes them explode
south swallow
hell yeah
vocal spade
Going with boltguns take on volkite it seems
granite zinc
hell yeah
Great if you have multiple on your team, because the heating stacks
So you can literally MELT bossses
copper swallow
Do Not Cross The Streams
I swear they gave it to Vanguard, Assault and Bulwark specifically because that team is the most doomed by Suddenly, Neurothropes
fiery cliff
I swear they gave it to Vanguard, Assault and Bulwark specifically because that ...
This is literally my buddies and I's setup lmao
And yeah thropes suck ass for us. Vanguard goes Sniper sometimes though and that helps
We beat Lethal Reliquary last night though 💪 leveled my power fist up to Relic. Assault 4ever
copper swallow
I got my arse kicked by Neurothropes spawning in while I only had a multimelta and my buddy was running the non-marksman bolt carbine twice
i was also out of ammo because of course
fiery cliff
I got three more missions to go before I get the Survivor helmet, pretty stoked
vestal cedar
yippeeeeee
was super worth it for me
took two days to get it but it was a grand reward
fiery cliff
Reliquary kinda kicked our butts for a while
We kept getting fucked RNG on the cores and servo skull in the first half and it kept bleeding us dry to where we couldn't survive the heldrake flybys
vestal cedar
yeaaaaah
i got kinda fucked up by the new mission
on the one where we won i had last stand 3 times during the mission
fiery cliff
That's the one with the ||bio titan|| right?
vestal cedar
yeppers
we actually had a last stand on my winning attempt ||during the bio titan sequence||
mortal kraken
I haven't done that one yet but I have to
icy cedar
Played on ruthless with some friends last night.
We got to the very end of the first operation to explode nid swarm.
Two neurotropes appear. And at some point they just decide to wipe us.
One player goes down from horde + neurotrope beam.
Both neurotropes turn to me. One fires beam, I evade. While still recovering second beam from the other hits me.
While character stunned I get hit by another beam from the first followed by fourth beam from the second.
I had to laugh at that tbh, suddenly - oooops all beam attacks
fiery cliff
The hitbox on the beams is wack
I only play Assault so any time a thrope shows up I just pray that the others can take it down quick lmao
lilac haven
wondering if i could run this game on a dell xps laptop
lilac haven
cpu is solid
vestal cedar
Give it a shot i'd say
lilac haven
update: you know how emulators list "ingame" and "playable" as 2 different things? this was ingame
grand lantern
I’m not sure what the difference is haha
icy cedar
It technically boots the game
vs
it can actually run it so it's playable
lilac haven
you can get to the main menu
vs
you can play the game
mortal kraken
BEAK HELMET
vestal cedar
YEAAAAAAAAH
lilac haven
beakies babyyyy
silent mist
Some day they'll get around to more CSM options
lilac haven
do death guard have the gut mouth yeat
copper swallow
Lieutenant Titus just got rules for the 40k tabletop
didn't see that coming
copper swallow
they also created army rules for chucking 72 Tyranid Warriors on the battlefield at the same time for the real Ruthless difficulty experience
barren coral
Lieutenant Titus just got rules for the 40k tabletop
didn't see that coming
tbh I'm surprised it took them that long
They made him into a Primaris Lieutenant I'm surprised they could restrain themselves this long
grand lantern
they also created army rules for chucking 72 Tyranid Warriors on the battlefield...
Lmfao real
copper swallow
tbh I'm surprised it took them that long
inorite, and the funny thing is he's for some reason the only Primaris Lieutenant with a chainsword ever despite there being like twenty of them
Everyone else is either using a power sword/power fist or trying to beat horrors beyond human comprehension with their bare hands
barren coral
Not just a Chainsword too
A scary fucking Chainsword
dudes great into infantry (aka run him into a horde of Warriors and it ends like it does in game)
pliant copper
smoking that dark angels chapter pack
vestal cedar
oh ffs, they added a checkered pattern and it's on the fucking knees
turbid nebula
Gotta wait for the Blood Angels DLC for proper Lamenters, I guess.
vestal cedar
yeah
fair anchor
I just got this game. And it is funny to me how this is the very first option given after selecting "new game"
vestal cedar
I put it to on immediately
brisk notch
You're a name ultramarine not wearing an helmet you are actually stronger
vestal cedar
yeah but it's stupid not to wear a helmet though
that's like, chapter master and Primarch behaviour, i do not have an iron halo
clever ember
that's like, chapter master and Primarch behaviour, i do not have an iron halo
Ironically, both Guilliman's and Calgar's models come with helmets, and they look pretty good.
vestal cedar
again
not wearing your helmet is stupid
there is no reason you should be trying to block projectiles with your skull
fiery cliff
My skull is tougher than a helmet
vestal cedar
do you have ceramite plate inserted in your head
fiery cliff
I have super-ceramite plating inserted in my head
turbid nebula
MY FACE IS MY SHIELD
vestal cedar
i'm a Lamenter so i really cannot afford to bank on main character syndrome and not wear a helmet
I'm already like 300% more likely to die a horrific death than the average Space Marine
barren coral
but I would expect named Lamenters to have even more plot armor than normal?
Because what is there worse than to watch all your Battle Brothers die around you while you can do nothing
Survivors guilts lets gooooo
vestal cedar
who do you think i'm wearing the helmet for
i know i'm living but i need to fully protected to make sure everyone else is also
fiery cliff
Getting really tired of getting matchmade into lobbies as a Bulwark and then being forced to switch off of it because there's already a Bulwark
Why even put me in that match
silent mist
that's like, chapter master and Primarch behaviour, i do not have an iron halo
Straben has an iron halo :D
(Straben is also my favorite of the ops characters)
vestal cedar
I play Vanguard so no Iron Halo for me 😔
fiery cliff
oh hey they buffed block weapons again
adrenaline surge gives 2 armor segments now instead of 1
vestal cedar
yippeee
lilac haven
become wall
fiery cliff
Block does feel pretty good now, been using it on thunder hammer, you get a ton of damage with it
I'm really considering trying out the perk that gives 25% damage to running attacks and stacking that with +50% pommel damage but that means giving up the armor restoration perk for Assault
Which seems heretical
fiery cliff
Yeah im hoping the damage buffs make it usable
shadow hound
I'm trapped in a Tesseract Labyrinth ☹️
(My game keeps crashing whenever I try to open a door to the ||neurothrope fight||)
fiery cliff
Block hammer looking good
lilac haven
went to rewatch mandy's SM1 video today and it was so worth it lmao
https://youtu.be/rh-hAC8xugE?si=7sMp5zBvgdhqc2Ei
brisk notch
The new DA skin’s wing helm make me think of Him : https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/bdpedia/images/8/8f/Latest.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200818083915&path-prefix=fr
fair anchor
So fun fact, if you a friend dies for the last time at the final boss right as you do enough damage, you get a game over screen and then you get to do the end game sequence anyways lol
brisk notch
I know even if the las rifle is better i kinda prefer the bolt sniper
lilac haven
is is better?
seems to do about the same damage for worse performance on all other fronts
like ik it does more damage but it kills in the same number of shots i find
brisk notch
At low level ?artificer and beneath) las rifle 2 shots warrior, when bolt sniper nedd 3 to 4 at least
lilac haven
anyway this game has convinced me titus has the pariah gene
grand lantern
He's just kinda an emotional freak
With really intense faith in the emperor
Based off of the Secret Level stuff I should clarify
Though I'm not sure if that's "canon"
fair anchor
If Titus has the pariah gene, everyone in that game has the pariah gene (the utter inability to just explain things to people)
The joke I had with my friends is that space marines would rather kill hundreds of tyranids than go to therapy
turbid nebula
That is the therapy
fair anchor
Unrelated: I found it hilarious that the Chaplain has a popped leather collar
grand lantern
The joke I had with my friends is that space marines would rather kill hundreds ...
what joke
Though I think they do sometimes make them go talk about stuff but space marines aren't really that into that lol
fair anchor
That's the Chaplian's job right? I wouldn't want to go to therapy if he was my therapist either
grand lantern
Usually yeah
One of the things I find really funny is that most space marines aren't really religious like the rest of the imperium and their purity seals are generally personal affirmations written by the chaplain not prayers
fair anchor
Is the Chaplian themself usually religious?
grand lantern
Not in the normal sense
lilac haven
He’s just resistant
thats kinda how it works, the stuff we see affect him is usually really strong
turbid nebula
Chaplains are basically morale officer
fair anchor
Not in the normal sense
Is it like Space Marines are vaguely religious just not in a "part of an organized religion way"? (It seems a bit more concrete than just calling them spiritual)
turbid nebula
They have rituals and a monastic culture but they don’t hold the emperor as a deity
fair anchor
Yeah
turbid nebula
Most of them anyway
fair anchor
... do the Techmarines think he is a deity (as the Omnissiah)?
turbid nebula
That being said most of them keep customs from their home culture
So like if ancestor worship was a thing on a chapter’s homeworld that’s probably going to carry over to the chapter itself
turbid nebula
... do the Techmarines think he is a deity (as the Omnissiah)?
Techmarines are trained in the rites of technology but they don’t necessarily hold to the Martian religion
turbid nebula
It’s one of those exceptions that only persists because it’s ten thousand years old
fair anchor
hmm, is there any decent media from a Techmarine's viewpoint? I think I vaguely remember that they tend to be distrusted by both the admech and their fellow chapter members
proper cosmos
Space Marines religious attitudes vary a lot by chapter
But they consistently have a chapter cult that is both a hero/mystery cult in the style of the ancient greeks and romans, and a modern high control/charismatic cult.
They also almost always have a religious aesthetic that is compatible with the Imperium
The Space Marines, by and large are culturally, socially and physically isolated from the imperium at large
lilac haven
this is why the chill chapters are rare
vestal cedar
Space Marines religious attitudes vary a lot by chapter
Soul Drinkers my beloved
vestal cedar
HERETIC BORGAR
vestal cedar
I kinda want to do some Soul Drinkers
turbid nebula
vestal cedar
my second favourite boys
finite tangle
lilac haven
gna see if the ultrakill druid knight cheese works on this guy
fair anchor
An artillery piece is a weird choice of opponent (unless it is mostly an objective)
Spore mines are more spooky in SM2 than tabletop though, granted
lilac haven
yeah spore mines are dangerous enough that it wont immediately get mulched when the players open fire on it
grand lantern
A pyrovore might have made more sense at that short range
fair anchor
Yeah
lilac haven
of course it being artillery is possibly the watsonian reason we will be fighting it
little yew
lilac haven
wish we actually got to customize csm armor
brisk notch
yay me tooo
lilac haven
you could in SM1
austere aurora
vestal cedar
they CANNOT just add another fucking highest difficulty and a prestige armor part 😭
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Base Decals available for Right Pauldrons (This one’s for you, Deathwatch players)
pliant copper
> Base Decals available for Right Pauldrons (This one’s for you, Deathwatch play...
Is this here now, or in the future?
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"February"
pliant copper
ah well
austere aurora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdnmx6P31AY
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/152-patch-notes-6-0
lilac haven
beakies are a dlc cosmetic
lilac haven
trying to get the rewards from pros but its not working for me
vestal cedar
Pros is dogwater
i have no idea why they decided to connect it to the game but it sucks
vestal cedar
completing one mission on each class, can't wait to not get the reward for doing so
can't even log into pros rn
bad comedy
lilac haven
connected my account today, played one mission, bar at 3/6 and i dont know which it counted
and i still dont have my req points or pauldron
vestal cedar
I played all six yesterday so i'm gonna check today if anything happened
lilac haven
it may have missed one
vestal cedar
huh
it seems to have actually worked
Pros is just unfathomably slow
or maybe not
nope, it is there, wacky
lilac haven
once i do a tac marine operation i will have the requirements met so i will only have to wait 24h for the helmet to actually show up
vestal cedar
yeah
also i may be stupid, i did the adeptus astartes research when i could have done the forces of Imperium or Tyranids research instead and gotten actual cool cosmetics
instead i have a bolt rifle skin, which is for a weapon i don't use
turbid nebula
I reinstalled because new computer, and because helmet
...And even with the beefy new computer, even with all the settings on low, my FPS is unplayably low
And looking this up apparently this is a known issue with the last update that they just...Haven't fixed? For three weeks?
And I'm honestly pretty pissed off.
And when I say 'unplayably low' I mean 'literally single digits, and it eats half my inputs'
vestal cedar
Damn
austere aurora
fluid bridge
Praying Pros doesn’t screw us out of the helmet. Currently reading as 6/6 and “owned” but we don’t have it in game
vestal cedar
huh
i kinda just did all the missions, then booted up the game the day after and got the helmet
there's definitely a wait time for it
verbal mortarBOT
You have to go to the main menu.
lilac haven
yeah thats where the game gives you pros rewards
austere aurora
modest oxide
????
opal siren
...
royal heart
ALREADY?
opal siren
why?
low hearth
i mean, "in development" doesn't mean "coming any time soon"
it was probably in development before sm2 even released, its just now far along enough to warrant an announcement
clever ember
In development probably means like we are now drawing concepts and writing outlines. Not actively programming it and modeling things.
low hearth
ye exactly
finite tangle
You think its gonna be nurgle this time?
pliant copper
I hope it's a non-Chaos threat, please
opal siren
go go gadget slaanesh blast (they're gonna make them boring)
proper cosmos
I want necrons
Guilliman has a pseudo non aggression pact with at least some craft worlds, so they're out, Tau are small fries and as much as I love them, marginal
silent mist
I thought Necrons were really foreshadowed in SM2 but they're sorta just set dressing for the Chaos fight
modest oxide
Yeah, Tide Games offer enough Nurgle for now
grand lantern
go go gadget slaanesh blast (they're gonna make them boring)
If they add noise marines I need my speakers damaged and rent asunder
fair anchor
I thought Necrons were really foreshadowed in SM2 but they're sorta just set dre...
I was pretty sad you didn't fight Necrons in SM2 after being in a tomb world (though Necrons are the real enemy was already done in DoW). But I guess they were to explain the anti-warp tech
royal heart
Guilliman has a pseudo non aggression pact with at least some craft worlds, so t...
I dont see Tau or Eldar working for the SM formula anyway
they dont exactly attack you in hordes
though I guess I could see Tau playing like chaos from 2
south swallow
Orks were what I want, but we DID already get em. They could do something with Angron's Blood Crusade I suppose. Unfortunately there arent too many other horde focused factions after Orks and Nids
Necrons are hordey, but narratively, each warrior is hella tough and actively regenerates, which i think might be annoying for a basic enemy type
could do genestealer cults maybe...
worldly pebble
JEAN STEALERS
fair anchor
They clearly should have done genestealer cults into Tyranids as the real enemy. You could even have them think it's chaos as a red herring
vestal cedar
feel like a bit of an ass but i'm playing on ruthless for some casual gameplay and one of my teammates said a section was difficult and in my head i was just thinking how they must be a new player
felt kinda rude to think that way but i've been playing on the highest difficulty so this is genuinely kinda easy to me
vestal cedar
matchmaking is still such an annoyance
just let me matchmake with the classes i want to play
vestal cedar
game fun
honestly a real nice change of pace doing more chill missions
quickplay ruthless may be the way to go for me leveling all my classes
viral patio
I hate the matchmaking so much
stop putting me in games where I can't play the class I picked
stop putting me on someone's battlebarge when they've not even queued up a game. Yesterday I ended up on this one AFK guy's ship 3 times in 15 minutes, trying to land on a single actual mission
vestal cedar
it's such a tremendous pain
honestly from launch to now, my biggest complaint with the game still
i have other complaints, like the nid warriors with guns being disgustingly overtuned with their sniper shots
like seriously, on ruthless it eats 3 shields and like a third of your hp
that's more than attacks made by terminus enemies by a long shot
but matchmaking is my main complaint
clever ember
I hope it's a non-Chaos threat, please
Sorry, gotta have Chaos for MP.
proper cosmos
Okay but that doesn't really affect the single player game that much
I dont think any of thr mp chaos skins in sm2 are ksons?
silent mist
- Tactical: Black Legion
- Assault: Night Lord
- Vanguard: World Eaters
- Bulwark: Death Guard
- Sniper: Alpha Legion
- Heavy: Iron Warriors
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I dont think any of thr mp chaos skins in sm2 are ksons?
I think they were totally different Chaos Marine models in SM1 too.
silent mist
I hate the reasoning they gave for locking them to specific legions too
They were like “it wouldn’t be lore accurate if you could paint your sniper in WE colors” but no one in Chaos gets to have snipers, nor sword and board
Nor grappling hooks
vestal cedar
yeah it does suck
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I think it was clear whatever excuses they gave that this was a dev time thing.
silent mist
looks at how many post-launch armor bits they’ve made for loyalists
You can’t even do recolors of the fixed armor IIRC
vestal cedar
you can recolor the chaos armor but that's it
silent mist
Ah they do have recolors, okay
pliant copper
Sorry, gotta have Chaos for MP.
I don't know if this is meant to be more of a joke, but I refer to others' answers to this argument; the pvp multiplayer needn't be related to the story, the current game doesn't even have the main heretic legion featured in the story as an option in the multiplayer, etc
worldly pebble
I think it was clear whatever excuses they gave that this was a dev time thing.
I feel it's a bit of both, considering how GW was very particular about how they were to make use of the IP iirc
silent mist
Yeah like IIRC stuff like "no WE snipers" was like a decree from GW
viral patio
GW is really precious about their IP in general
it comes up in all their licensed games
worldly pebble
So yeah, I do think any silly mistakes or missed opportunities of that nature are a result of them not having enough time or resources to dedicate to it as well as GW breathing down their necks about what they're even allowed to do
There's probably many cases of then going "we got it good enough the way they wanted, move onto the next thing"
fair anchor
Kind of weird since I thought they were normally fairly hands off with the video game stuff?
Or did that change after the video games started to do better?
tropic widget
They'd always been involved, but I think as they started to do better in the video game space the license lawyers got more involved.
The company as a whole has focused more on growing Warhammer as a brand and IP too.
Since the shareholders realized it makes them lots of money.
royal heart
my take is to make it assymetrical and give chaos different classes
next oracle
Just picked this up for PC and dang if this isn't one of the better optimized games I've played. Also, very much down for PvE fun.
austere aurora
vestal cedar
real
verbal mortarBOT
Sorry, inferno pistol? :D
stray smelt
As a terminal heavy main... That inferno pistol might actually be quite solid as a backup weapon
south swallow
man i wanna be playing this game more but it frequently crashes on me
brisk notch
infernop pistol is here ?
deep acorn
no thank you plasma pistol my beloved
brisk notch
Hand shotgun go hard tho
fair anchor
A Trygon is cool, but I kind of wish they did a Mawloc so the execution could be jumping down it's gullet and stabbing it from the inside
Also, does this make it the biggest/strongest thing you fight directly in SM2?
south swallow
you figth a hierophant, just not with a chainsword
but its pretty direct; its shooting at you and you're shooting at it
mortal kraken
YOO
fair anchor
but its pretty direct; its shooting at you and you're shooting at it
Yeah, but you use special mechanics to damage it, where the trailer seems to suggest you'll be stabbing/parrying the Trygon with normal stuff. But they might not have shown the gimmick
vestal cedar
waiting once again for a blood angels champ pack to drip out my Lamenters
vestal cedar
damn, prestige huh
was going to level up all classes to max once but i kinda want to prestige my Vanguard now
verbal mortarBOT
Ooh, heavy bolt pistol for a bunch of classes! :D
In fact, I think for all classes.
vestal cedar
this update
south swallow
i finally started playing again just last night
im surprised the heavy gets a heavy bolt rifle
is it pretty worthwhile these days on operations?
Also also, is the vibe that most guns are pretty alright now for operations or are there still some moderate stinkers because of enemy sponginess?
viral patio
Heavy gets the Heavy Bolt Rifle because of lore reasons, but it's not really a good pick
kind of like Assault having the inferno pistol
and I don't play on Absolute, but I've found most guns are fine
south swallow
Was planning to put some time into the bolt carbine on the Vanguard, was mostly my background there, but was also planning on leveling the heavy bolt rifle on the tactical
viral patio
love the bolt carbine on the vanguard, I'm glad they finally got it
south swallow
Kind of enjoying the heavy bolt rifle, doesn't hit very hard but you can keep a pretty consistent stream of decently accurate fire going
sly shore
I've been liking the Bolt Carbine on Vanguard.
viral patio
Skulls event on the 22nd, we'll probably get some news for the game then
pliant copper
I am very happy with all the gear variety increases for all the classes
I am so happy
I have literally been banging the drum since the game came out that the bulwark should have the heavy pistol and the assault should have the power sword
I am so happy
south swallow
heavy pistol is my one true love
closest thing i can get to a space marine revolver
pliant copper
Real tho
brisk notch
is the inferno pistol a pocket shotgun ?
verbal mortarBOT
In the same way that a full-sized melta is a shotgun, sure.
sly shore
What's going on with the Skulls event for SM2? I already did the Darktide one.
brisk notch
In the same way that a full-sized melta is a shotgun, sure.
perfect
pliant copper
What's going on with the Skulls event for SM2? I already did the Darktide one.
afaik shit's over
sly shore
Ah, well.
pliant copper
What's the general wisdom on best tactical marine weapons?
brisk notch
What ever you find fun to use
pliant copper
What ever you find fun to use
Damn that's a problem
idk if I find any gun particularly fun to use on Tactical XDDDDD
sly shore
I like the heavy bolt rifle.
vestal cedar
one guy fucking soloing the lobby
mortal kraken
He had his helmet off didn't he
vestal cedar
some main character bullshit yeah
pliant copper
lmao
proper cosmos
" Added Thunder Hammer for Bulwark. Picking this weapon will prevent you from using the Storm Shield." HUH
vestal cedar
???
proper cosmos
Guess they're trying out bulwark with thunder hammer option, with a bunch of the shield bash skills reworked to be comptible
proper cosmos
I mean you can still do shield with the other weapons, and the animationset they have for thunder hammer isn't gonna work one handed
vestal cedar
Yeah
viral patio
some people have been campaigning for an emperor's champion style big sword bulwark
and I guess this proves they might be willing to do something like that
proper cosmos
Flesh tearers hell yeah
brisk notch
Atlabtean Spear represent
Tactical os getting the skin ?
Or is it jus cosmetics like raven guard ?
viral patio
just cosmetics
verbal mortarBOT
Siege mode update, only <t:1750928400:R> away!
finite tangle
grand lantern
is it gonna have it's own unlock tree
grand lantern
oh cool
wanton grail
and the power axe as the next weapon
pliant copper
apparently they are adding techmarines
Hope for us librarian fans
lone gulch
Im the latest to the party
I just started space marines and havent even beat the campaign yet feel free to infodump advice
grand lantern
It's fun, uh hmm
lone gulch
Is that sarcasm or does it get fun. Im playing with a party which is why
I did one ops with the crew and the vanguard with like melta and knife was neat. Hate the campaign locks you to titus class
grand lantern
Oh sorry I just got distracted cause I'm in a pathfinder game augh
A lot of the nuance and skill in the combat is learning the timing of perfect parries and which things are safe to cancel out of and which are locked in
grand lantern
I was playing some recently but the MM experience solo is AWFUL
lone gulch
So are you supposed to be mostly parrying? It feels like the moment I stop parrying in a horde I take lots of damage
grand lantern
just like waiting 30 seconds to sit in a lobby with AFKs
grand lantern
So are you supposed to be mostly parrying? It feels like the moment I stop parry...
I like to try to dodge out of hordes to avoid getting locked down
vestal cedar
I play chainsaw mostly so i go for hella parries
Sword can do numbers on minoris tho
lone gulch
Is the parry perk on knife good then I assume, if parrying happens alot
vestal cedar
One of the attacks it 100% staggers minoris so you can get headshots for shields infinitely in difficult situations so long as you have some minoris around
vestal cedar
Is the parry perk on knife good then I assume, if parrying happens alot
I personally leaned towards parry upgrades heavily
lone gulch
Im afraid to spend my master points unwisely, what guns go well on vanguard?
Melta is one im gravitating to right now, not sure on secondary
vestal cedar
Melta id goated
I like the plasma pistol personally
Plasma, melta and chainsword is my reg loadout
lone gulch
Plasma ive taken a liking to, maybe its cause im not highest diff but it seems to one shot little gunners uncharged and ranged majors gunners charged. Do enemies get real bullet spongey later on
south swallow
Generally, in the harder situations, the game wants you to manage your enemies with perfect dodges and perfect parries, getting decent with them will help you a lot. The knife can be a parry God.
Aside from that, maintaining aggression helps keep your health up
My favorite sidearm is the heavy bolt pistol
Melta I believe can and will carry you through all difficulties if you manage your ammo
I feel like the learn and the biggest skill expression is threat management and keeping yourself alive
grand lantern
What’s the best way to fight Biovores I find them annoying and feel like I’m missing a mechanic
south swallow
i havent figured it out either other than just sticking to em and hitting them a lot. Landing your perfect dodges and parries shortens the kill up a lot tho
lone gulch
Man playing campaign seeing the guard fight and leman russ's doing stuff in campaign missions is so neat
I try to protect the guardsmen as best as I can before they get instantly bodied
lone gulch
Between bolt pistol, plasma pistol, and heavy bolt pistol which can be real good at ranged damage. Im Vanguard and using melta as main
lone gulch
Mine guy
lone gulch
Though you get more ammo for the normal bp
I also went with heavy bolt pistol, a shame cause I liked the plasma pistol from using it in campaign but vanguard seems to be my life
lone gulch
I misremembered the white scars colors.
vestal cedar
My Lamenter
solemn scaffold
Any Crimson Fists?
I love this game, got it on sale too.
Best 40-ish I've spent in a while.
verbal mortarBOT
I will pass it on to my CF-loving girlfren. :3
solemn scaffold
Side note, Pedro Kantor? Dude's the GOAT.
"We stay in Berlin. Period." - Harry Truman ass quote.
shadow hound
Any ***Crimson Fists?***
Crimson Fists Mentioned!!!
clever ember
OMG that best Imperial Fists successor.
solemn scaffold
My only complaint with the power fist is that we can't get a version with an Underslung bolt gun like Calgar's.
Other than that.
What a weapon.
lone gulch
So what's the strength of the power fist
Ive been playing melta and knife with Vanguard and im eyeing Assault
solemn scaffold
So what's the strength of the power fist
Honestly, couldn't tell yuh. It kinda just...clicked with me and now it's my favorite.
lone gulch
So like is it major/minor killer? Crowd or single target?
solemn scaffold
So like is it major/minor killer? Crowd or single target?
Uh...yes...
lone gulch
Is it like a generalist that deals with everything well?
solemn scaffold
With charged punches in can both clear out small chunks of chaff and staggers most Major enemies like Warriors and Marines.
While the uncharged punches are good for quick damage.
But i've been staggered out of it by anything bigger like raveners and Terminators (the bane of my existence)
It does everything well i think is answer here.
lone gulch
Hmm does that one perk that makes assault not staggered while charging heavy attacking prevent that
solemn scaffold
Hmm does that one perk that makes assault not staggered while charging heavy att...
Actually yeah it does. i forgor.
lone gulch
Im completely new so I barely know whats good
solemn scaffold
Side note, the unique executions are fucking BRUTAL.
With smaller enemies you just grab by the face and crush them in your hand,
With bigger guys you either deliver a body-shattering falcon punch, or a skull-destroying upper-cut.
But yeah i think it's pretty good.
solemn scaffold
Im completely new so I barely know whats good
Honestly me either and every gun and melee weapon i've tried feels great to use.
lone gulch
Well im a person that likes optimizing and trust no game dev to have perfect balance
solemn scaffold
Well im a person that likes optimizing and trust no game dev to have perfect bal...
Well ok let me rephrase that, no gun that i've tried feels worse then the others, there're better ones but no bad ones.
Like sure the Marksman Bolt carbine is probably the best of the carbine family, but they're all good by themselves
verbal mortarBOT
IIRC, that's because his is a Terminator-armour or Centurion-armour relic?
MarshallMars ↩️
proper cosmos
Bolters on forearms/fists/claws is incredibly rare
It's basically sanguinary guard, Grey Knight, Serious named characters only
Calgar's is a named one off,
south swallow
Did they come attached when he took em off a chaos champion or was that added later
grand lantern
IIRC, that's because his is a Terminator-armour or Centurion-armour relic?
Calgar’s got the Gauntlets of Ultramar which are 10,000 years old and too durable to even open to see how they work so it’s hard replicate
grand lantern
Did they come attached when he took em off a chaos champion or was that added la...
They were attached from the start
vestal cedar
he's got some old ass gauntlets yeah
pretty sure Guilliman used to use them
also updated my Lamenter to have the green kneepad
also got my Death Company and Death Watch sets updated
south swallow
if anyone was curious:
The Gauntlets of Ultramar are two mighty Power Fists with incorporated Bolters that were reclaimed from a fallen Chaos champion, slain during the Gamalia Reclusiam Massacre by the Primarch of the Ultramarines, Roboute Guilliman himself.[5]
No one has been able to penetrate the thick adamantine shell of the fists to study the workings inside. While not in use, the Gauntlets are stored within a crystal case at the Fortress of Hera, inside the Temple of Correction's Shrine of the Great Primarch. In combat, the Gauntlets are worn exclusively by Marneus Calgar, the Chapter Master.[5]
vestal cedar
Bobby G robbed some Chaos guy for his shit and they became chapter relics
lone gulch
Space Marines 2 is the worst, I was going to shake someone's hand then right before I did they went "for the emperor" and walked away.
lone gulch
I saw some real techmarines in my game, they kneeled before every single door and terminal while it was being used
solemn scaffold
I saw some real techmarines in my game, they kneeled before every single door an...
For the Emperor and the Omnisaiah!
For Big E and Big O!
lone gulch
Empersaiah
worldly pebble
to some admech, one and the same-
fair anchor
Are there Dark Mechanicum who believe the Emperor and the Omnissiah are the same?
clever ember
No, that's sort of why they're the Dark Mechanicum. They believe the Machine-God is actually an Aspect of Chaos.
fair anchor
Oh, hmm. Was that a subsequent realignment or am I just uninformed. I thought the original schism was kind of unrelated to the horus heresy but the "hereteks" found it useful to throw in with Horus
clever ember
The schism in the Mechanicum I'm having for a number of reasons, many in fact related to the Heresy. Some believe that The Emperor was in fact not the Omnisaiah, others joined Hourus because he promised forbidden technology and STCs and others still join because his spies and emissaries said that The Emperor was planning to enslave the Tech-Priests of Mars. There was no single issue that caused it.
lone gulch
Oh, hmm. Was that a subsequent realignment or am I just uninformed. I thought th...
Hereteks is a label for those tech priests who go against the ad mech teachings in general.
All dark mechanium are Hereteks but not all Hereteks are dark mechanicum
proper cosmos
I dont think the dark mech even still exist in 40k
I thought it was an institution destroyed during the heresy
lone gulch
Ye, it's like more a label now for chaos heretek
clever ember
No? They're still around. A group of them are major characters in Genefather from 2023.
lone gulch
Theyre pretty fractured compared to mechanicum
A lot just form sects and do their own thing
silent mist
- 20% hanging out with some Black Legion warband
- 20% hanging out with some Iron Warrior warband
- 20% hanging out with some other legion warband
- 20% attendants to some Chaos Knight house
- 20% doing their own thing
lone gulch
With Horus they were like wholly united as basically chaos ad mech but you know Horus ded
Fell apart as a united faction, still around doing their silly little horrible things
clever ember
Yeah. That's how chaos tends to work.
Their whole thing is while yes they have technology from 30k and many are veterans from it, getting them to do anything other then in-fight most of the time is a struggle. That's why Abaddon's Black Crusades, community memes aside, are so dangerous. He's got all those resources all those resources and veterns working together.
lone gulch
Love how theres a wax and paper purity seal with cloth next to the assault's jets. Emperor truly protects
tropic widget
In their defense wax and paper burning likely does nothing to the armor plate's ceramite.
lone gulch
Im more surprised about the durability of the wax and paper
It does not care about jets that give enough thrust to propel a tank of a fully armored astartes
And being between the vents
solemn scaffold
Came across a small glitch in space marine 2. I literally did the virtual insanity thing.
So my teammate killed the warrior i was running to execute, my marine then slid like a brick to kill ANOTHER executable warrior.
Just thought that was funny.
POV: You're a random 'Nid Warrior.
solemn scaffold
Just looked into noise marines. Pretty cool so far right, like Slaanesh Astartes using friggen BASS CANNONS. SICK AF so far right?
This is apparently what they USED TO LOOK LIKE!
Look at this Super Punk-Rocker Straight outta the PITS-A-HELL!
Nut shit. Love it.
solemn scaffold
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Spacemarine/s/eRAjE3qjzM
Truly a relic table. Clearly used by Guilliman himself to file ancient rites of sacrifice called "Taxes."
verbal mortarBOT
My brain immediately thinks of London Calling by The Clash.
MarshallMars ↩️
south swallow
Oh they weren't punk rockers, they were glam rockers
verbal mortarBOT
Sure, but that's where my brain goes.
clever ember
Just looked into noise marines. Pretty cool so far right, like Slaanesh Astartes...
The longer version of the gun is actually an anti-armor version called a blaster master, while the shorter ones are just sonic blasters.
There's also a song about them from the time GW had a record label.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE1wSSZ-iFs
somber mulch
I've been heavily considering getting this, though I'm a 40k newb
austere aurora
You don't need to be one to like it
lone gulch
But if you like it you could be one
Slaanesh just asks you listen to it a little louder
lone gulch
Man Assault got monster boss damage
I could kill a helbrute in like 6 lightly charged power fists heavies
My favorite wombo combo so far is get aggro, drop melta, jump and hold with 3 second invulnerability, detonate melta, then slam for like 1/4th of their HP
lone gulch
Some players need to learn, I was playing with a pair of Blood Ravens and they were generous and didnt steal a single Medicae Stim. Immersion breaking
mystic lotus
Some players need to learn, I was playing with a pair of Blood Ravens and they w...
(They stole you)
Also does powerfist beat thunderhammer
cause Ilove driving through enimies
lone gulch
It depends Thunderhammer has the strong CC
Power Fist has the dummy strong single target and a good amount of DR during charging
Stupid boss damage
mystic lotus
also my blood angel
lone gulch
My favorite thing with block powerfist is one shotting a zoanthrope or extremis
Being able to shot into excution every majoris and most extremix enemies like terminators (except biovores sucks)
And the range on it is deceptively long
mystic lotus
any pistol suggest
lone gulch
What class?
south swallow
Is block worth these days? I honestly assumed it was just bad
grand lantern
It’s okay
lone gulch
Its better now, the damage potential is much higher than balanced but no gunstrike on parry
Especially with block charges mechanic
Perfect block and you get a 30% additive damage boost to your next melee attack, up to 3 stacks. So at 3 stacks you get 90% more melee damage and your melee does an AoE explosion that does hefty enough damage to execution state majoris
Power fist can like deal 1/3rd of a carnifexes HP with a lightly charged heavy this way
And execution state all extremis in one hit
It requires you are really good at blocking cause fencing perfect parry window is 40 frames and perfect block is 20 frames and doesnt stagger the attack chain or give gunstrike
Usually you can get the 2-3 stacks from block a majoris block chain, hordes are a pain but I play Assault
south swallow
ohhh nice, that sounds a bit complex, but i like that its got a niche
instead of just being straight worse
lone gulch
Ironically its a very glass cannon playstyle unless youre a bulwark then its great
Its also good on Assault cause they have a talent to gain armor on gunstrike so you can perfect dodge instead of block to get back armor
mystic lotus
What class?
assult and bulwark
lone gulch
Depends on how good your aim is
If youre good at headshots heavy bolt pistol. If youre not then Plasma Pistol, specifically the 5 rate of fire one. A charged shot staggers enemies out of calling reinforcements
Heavy Bolt pistol is a ranged enemy killer.
On Assault id say Plasma Pistol cause you dont care about ranged damage. Say Power Fist perk (20% ranged resist), Assault Talent (30% ranged resist), and ranged resist priestige (15% ranged resist) you have 65% ranged resist since its additive
Not to mention 3s immunity on jet pack jump prestiege and by default immunity during landing so Assault isnt weak to ranged enemies anymore
mystic lotus
Not to mention 3s immunity on jet pack jump prestiege and by default immunity du...
Need to start grinding then
lone gulch
Man I love the mobility of Assaut
You can just be anywhere fast and the ground pound refund on kills is so spammable
solemn scaffold
Man I love the mobility of Assaut
"Take FLIGHT! And let TERROR FALL!"
lone gulch
Im living the ravenguard and white scar dreams
solemn scaffold
Oh yeah assault has kinda become my new main.
Power-fist Assault just tickles the right part of my brain.
lone gulch
Youre waiting for me? Oh youre mistaken
Jump Jets
You were the one behind
I also do power fist, basically your 3rd gun
It deals so much damage to neuro and zoan thropes in the air
clever ember
viral patio
Sons of the Phoenix! Whoo!
clever ember
Ah yes the "Totally not using Emperor's Children geneseed" chapter.
viral patio
haha
clever ember
tropic widget
Crimson Fists with the proper just the fist paint color appear to be in the Imperial Fists pack.
clever ember
I am very curious about the comb-melta and xenophase blade, like how differently will they work from their base counterparts?
clever ember
Okay so that confirms it, you can in fact use the melta half of the combi-melta.
vestal cedar
would be a bit shite if it only did one
grand lantern
Not really combi at all
lone gulch
What is the difference between heavy one and regular one
tropic widget
One is two guns the other is two big guns.
lone gulch
Does it just fire twice in the game
tropic widget
No idea! I assume some kind of mode selection
vestal cedar
Heavy Melta is one big melta
Combi Melta is both a melta and presumably a bolter
combi weapons just means it's two weapons glued together basically
lone gulch
Oh I guess multi melta and melta
proper cosmos
On the tabletop, multis are longer range and stronger, but they're only deployed on vehicles and power armor, whereas normal meltas can be carried by general infantry
lone gulch
Oh and I meant in Space Marines 2 as well, the stats on them look like very similar
proper cosmos
The numbers dont mean anything between different weapon families
lone gulch
Huh, that's kind of confusing
proper cosmos
Yeah it's a weird decision
lone gulch
One thing I noticed was range value is not in meters for the melta
It's base plus of like 5m the range number. It confused me when the range 1 which I assumed meant 1 meter range melta hit further
proper cosmos
But yeah thr numbers are only relative within weapon trees, and are abstract
lone gulch
Well at least it's one of the few questionable decisions, coming from darktide it's has a lot of QoL polish but Saber is also like 10 times the size. Except I hate prestiging but that's a personal thing.
I think they should have like have like level 45 and every 5 levels after 25 is a a prestige perk slot
solemn scaffold
All my Astartes in Space Marine 2.
An UltraMarine of Guiliman.
A White Scar of the Khan.
A Dark Angel of the Lion.
A Raven Guard of Corvus.
A Crimson Fist of Rogal Dorn and Pedro Kantor.
And A Blood Angel of Sanguinius.
...You can tell i don't play infiltrator very often...
vestal cedar
lemme pull up mine
lone gulch
Infiltrator? Sniper?
I only recently learned Sniper is goated for just nevering being hurt
If you always shoot after cloaking with 2 seconds of invulnerability perk you can tank bosses and it can restore contested health and recharges in seconds
vestal cedar
A Lamenter, noble son of Sanguinius
A Lamenter, noble son of Sanguinius
A Lamenter, noble son of Sanguinius
A Lamenter, noble son of Sanguinius
A Lamenter, noble son of Sanguinius
A Lamenter, noble son of Sanguinius
i unfortunately haven't gotten the Blood Angels pack thing for the Lamenters heraldry
since i made all my dudes Lamenters before it was added to the game
and i've been a bit occupied with other stuff and games
lone gulch
All my guys look the same
lone gulch
Tbf Bulwark is a strong class
vestal cedar
nah i main Vanguard
lone gulch
Youre unkillable and has strong paladin vibes
vestal cedar
i have been playing Bulwark tho
lone gulch
Oh
vestal cedar
since i want to level up the other classes before i start prestiging on Vanguard
lone gulch
Ive just fully prestiged assault
Assault in my experience just kind of sucks early on but once fully upgrade its a night and day difference
Like Power Fist chunking 1/4th of a terminus enemy HP with block fist has such good feels
And like dealing 1/8th of their HP on jump pack slam?
vestal cedar
i just haven't played enough to go through the prestiges
lone gulch
It really changes some classes
vestal cedar
i put in 120 hours before any of that stuff came out and 100% the game
and i've kind of been busy with other games so i haven't really picked it back up again
lone gulch
Like for Assault this makexs snipers a joke
vestal cedar
been meaning to get into it again
but i don't super love playing with randoms
and i do like playing on higher difficulties
so it's sort of a, idk, conundrum
lone gulch
Like bonused in this game are additive mostly, assault can get 70% damage resist from ranged
vestal cedar
nice
have they changed it so the jetpack guy doesn't have the targeting reticle on the ground 100% of the time
because that made it literally entirely unplayable for me
lone gulch
You can disable that in settings
lone gulch
Yea Assault is top 3 now with patch 9 imo
lone gulch
Its like top 3 is Assault, Bulwark. and Sniper
vestal cedar
so i straight up never played Assault entirely cause that was impossible to turn off
lone gulch
THey replaced one perk that made it god tier
Thats right killing 10 enemies fully resets yoour jump pack
I always get like 40% more kills than my teammates, even the heavies with this
grand lantern
I wish the leveling in it wasn’t so fuckin slow
grand lantern
It’s such a grind fest of a game and there just aren’t enough levels to keep me interested
lone gulch
See like to me id replace prestiging by raise level cap from 25 to like 45 and say you get a currently prestige perk every 5 levels
I hate getting a build fully online that feels so good then having to reset
vestal cedar
yeah honestly
most of the reason i stopped playing aside from putting 100+ hours in and 100% it was just
slow ass grind
lone gulch
Its better now, still a grind
vestal cedar
i have not maxed any class but my Vanguard cause it just takes foreeeeeever
lone gulch
Im sure you could fully max a class in like 20 hours
Play Siege Mode on hard to wave 5 nets you like 8 levels in 15 minutes and super easy with bots if you just buy an astartes and guardsmen
Wave 5 ends with a terminus boss but otherwise isnt too hard, id say easier than Ruthless
vestal cedar
20 hours is a lot
i could def do siege tho
i usually pub on ruthless, substantial if i want to take it easy
lone gulch
Having played like Warframe and Nexon games its real light but still its mostly having to do missions as a wet noodle right after you unlocked your fun build
Sniper is a class thats bad while leveling but amazing at like like level 11, Assault you miss a key perk until like level 27
vestal cedar
Mmm
I play Warframe alot too but that grind feels more bearable somehow
Prolly the 2k hours
lone gulch
I think a big thing is you dont lose any abilities or skills while grinding
vestal cedar
Ic ic
lone gulch
If you fire or melee right after cloaking you get like 90% of it back immediately so like in less than 10 seconds you'll get it back
vestal cedar
Nice
clever ember
Brother DeAngelo, Brother Mikael, Brother Shiro, Brother Mosi, Brother Zachariah, and Brother Ram, all proud and noble sons of Sanguinius.
clever ember
I like giving my characters different names from various cultures because they're a fleet base chapter so they recruit from a whole bunch of populations with different naming traditions from old Terra.
verbal mortarBOT
In SM2 I run a set of very good boy grandsons of the Wolf.
viral patio
vestal cedar
now i gotta try it damn
lone gulch
Oh hello unkillable lictor
lone gulch
I am definitely not taking a block weapon on that one then
gloomy delta
Satisfactory
vestal cedar
https://medias.community.focus-entmt.com/forums/hylia/Design_sans_titre__68_.png
were these pvp only?
gloomy delta
were these pvp only?
Correct
vestal cedar
makes sense
south swallow
How's the power axe?
gloomy delta
How's the power axe?
its kinda just a weapon that lets you combo infinitely. nothing too special imo
south swallow
Looks cool
lone gulch
It swings faster than the knife
At least it seems to and super easy to dodge out of any animation
Huh, so only power sword and chainsword has heroics so far?
lone gulch
Saber was cooking with this
Some of these are just kind of less fun
Dodge rolling causes you damage mod?
vestal cedar
What are those triangle points
vestal cedar
Ah
I need to hop in game and plau a bit
Also wanna figure out how to get the Lamenters stuff
lone gulch
Damn what is this
vestal cedar
Some of these are just kind of less fun
Straight up half damage half health and no parries at all is diabolical
lone gulch
I think so, i mean its certainly harder it seems but imo it is not a fun hard
Some of the mods are cool and like perfect parry is harder but deals damage
Imagine the unkillable lictor and taking damage on dodge rolling thatd just suck
You cant block the red attacks on the lictors and they deal a ton of damage youre just forced to take a little damage vs a lot of damage
vestal cedar
Not exactly engaging is it
lone gulch
Class ones seem odd to me, it doesnt really encourage you to play different but rather just don't play that class
I guess to encourage diversity of classes?classes are already unique per mission though
If I were grinding the points I wouldnt switch classes, I'd pick one that doesn't target my class
It'd be more interesting if it was like, sniper has less HP but deal more damage so you're a super glass cannon
Or bulwarks can parry anything but only perfect parry and otherwise less HP
vestal cedar
Mhm
clever ember
Yeah. I wish that there was some more generic chaos armor too, instead of it being six specific legions. Hard to make 'Your Dudes' when it's clearly a world eater, night lord, black legionnaire etc painted different.
viral patio
the parry > shockwave > gunstrike combo is so fucking good
lone gulch
Ironically the lictor is nerfed by the darkness mod
Cause you just see red eyes in the darkness and no body and are like gee I wonder what that could be
lone gulch
Man the pyrecannon is just a flashbang for everyone
I cant see anything if in a horde if a heavy is pyrecannoning into it
lone gulch
Damn that new mutalith boss is absolutely wild
Both in vibes, mechanics, and difficulty
lone gulch
Oh just in case people dont know, the new shop guy is next to the magos to the right
If youre used to teleporting via menu theyre real easy to miss
stray smelt
Okay
Either the game has gotten more difficult since I last played, or I got a lot worse
vestal cedar
was gonna play a few games but it seems to be incredibly low fps now for some reason
i used to be able to run the game at decent like 40 fps or so with little stuttering but now it's like 15fps with lots of stuttering
vestal cedar
yeah guess i'm not playing it 😔
mystic lotus
anyone looking a group
viral patio
Sons of the Phoenix first company veteran
I do think the gold helmet doesn't look quite as good as the standard off-white, but it's the best way I've found to show veterancy
grand lantern
It’s the blood angels method at least
The laurels are another common one
Codex way would be white or a white stripe iirc
viral patio
Sons of the Phoenix are off codex in a few ways, they don't use company trim colours for instance
clever ember
Sons of the Phoenix first company veteran
viral patio
also the sergeant and lieutenants helmet is the other way around, which I think is a mistake that was canonised
clever ember
Sons of the Phoenix are off codex in a few ways, they don't use company trim col...
Everyone can have a bit of codex non-compliance. As a treat. Big Bobby G said so himself.
lone gulch
Except Leandros
brisk notch
I know it migh sub opti but i prefer the neovolkite on my melta reaver
mystic lotus
my line up
vestal cedar
Lmao
solemn scaffold
I haven't had that happen to me, but that's hilarious.
Gahdamn 66% less health is no joke.
(Hard mode weekly strat fyi)
pliant copper
wait there's champ skin customization now???
pliant copper
I can wear the fancy winged helmet on my normal bulwark lesgoooooo
south swallow
Can someone catch me up, I've been seeing some "power axe needs a buff" things in YouTube, is that the consensus?
brisk notch
i fell inlove with hammer billwark
lone gulch
Can someone catch me up, I've been seeing some "power axe needs a buff" things ...
It just got patched a few days ago so maybe that's old news. On launch it was fun but kind of just weaker than knife
brisk notch
Neo volkite pistol my beloved
is it meta ? no is it fun hell yea
and this is why i play hammer bullwark
lone gulch
If it works then it works
solemn scaffold
Brother DeAngelo, Brother Mikael, Brother Shiro, Brother Mosi, Brother Zachariah...
Wait are they ALL part of the Deathwatch? Or is it just the Bulwark?
clever ember
Just the bulwark, they just have silver limbs.
Although they're outdated, as i've gotten new colors and parts on them now.
pliant copper
Oh my GOD Volkite is awesome!!!!
verbal mortarBOT
Personally I'm not much a fan of it, but I respect it.
Though I'd be very happy to see a Neo-Volkite rifle.
pliant copper
It whips ass on Assault ngl
verbal mortarBOT
Personally I prefer the inferno pistol.
pliant copper
Valid
verbal mortarBOT
Sometimes you just gotta melta a bastard.
pliant copper
I like my inferno on my more ranged inclined characters
Well
My tactical and then my vanguard, but that's cuz my vang still has a rifle
Also I finally unlocked the inquisition insignia gauntlets and ogh
So good
lone gulch
The new heroic bolt pistol is just hilariously stronger than relic
pliant copper
yeah it seems
lone gulch
I take it over Heavy Bolt Pistol cause it regens quite insane Contested Health Regen and does monster damage to majors.
pliant copper
very good
lone gulch
Pretty much only the Chainsword & Knife heroic are proper side grades
turbid nebula
Welp
Finally
Accurate Mortifactor
It took an annoyingly long time to find a way to mock up 'just a skull' for the shoulder icon
vestal cedar
thinking of doing a custom successor chapter for myself
i'm sure you can probably figure out who they are based off
thinking something like the Dusk Defiants for a chapter name
Their chapter theme is gonna be scouring and cleansing, including concepts of ritual and chemical purification as well as plasma and melta based combat doctrine
Their chapter beliefs include the idea that things that are tainted need to be wholly scoured and purified before being remade or reused, and have a surprising chapter wide focus on artifice to be able to maintain, purify, sanctify and remake their armor and equipment when necessary
I think i might even go with some like, mental reformatting angles a la brainwashing and memory removal where they have a practice of like, maintaining a factory reset state for their marines in case of contact with mental and spiritual taints
Also gonna have them have a thing where they never split off into groups of less than a fourth of the chapters numbers at any given time to maintain internal purity, oversight and accountability, for reasons beginning with the words "the traveler"
They also accept no psykers in their ranks
ended up having more to say about them than i thought, sorry for going in a bit on it
turbid nebula
I like the red right arm
vestal cedar
ehhh no
they are successors of one of the original 18 legions
solid guess though, what with the red arm
pliant copper
TSons???
vestal cedar
Nope!
pliant copper
dafuq
vestal cedar
I will say you're on the right track with traitor legions
pliant copper
not night lords, they have a different weird pattern going on
sffasdnvoieh Wooooooord Beareeeeeeeeers?
vestal cedar
Nope, Dusk Defiant are basically agnostic
pliant copper
The only other traitor associated with red is the World Eaters but they turned red post-fall
I give up lmao
Death Guard?
vestal cedar
Their color scheme was completely unpainted armor with one red arm and gold trim
I took the green and beige of the pre-chaos Death Guard and combined it withthe red arm of the Dusk Raiders
Made a sigil for the Dusk Defiant based on the Dusk Raiders one also
Realized that the Dusk Defiant are obligated to hate the grey knights since they shun Psykers, great success
vestal cedar
Changed their minimum engagement numbers to 1 company instead of 1/5th chapter strength, fielding 280 marines at minimum is, comical overkill
140 is still horrible overkill in most situations but is less insane
140 is still kinda stupid but i can just say they don't really deploy to minor conflicts
turbid nebula
Is this just something that slipped through the cracks, or is this like...Cawl "Noooo, I promise I didn't do anything with traitor Geneseed, Mr. Guilliman...Honest!"
(Like the Covenant of Fire and the Sons of the Phoenix)
vestal cedar
The idea is they are surviving Deathguard from pre-heresy who through unknown means escaped Typhus doing his big fucky wucky on the chapter
The big reason they are so focused on the concepts of purity and sanctity is that their ancients and dreads remember the fall of the chapter and the Dusk Defiant have a really important and prevalent oral and written tradition of passing down the stories of the Deathguards fall to chaos and the heresy to their aspirants and neophytes
A really important part of their chapter culture and being inaugurated into the chapter is being told all the stories and performing a special ritual of understanding and dedication, which is essentially a neophytes way of showing to the chapter that they have fully understood their history and dedicate themselves unto death to make sure that it never happens again
Dusk Defiant are, VERY keen on rituals and properly following them
They also consider themselves Dusk Raider successors rather than Deathguard ones, and not only decry what became of their parent legion but also significantly deride Mortarion, going as far as to venerate their predecessors as Dusk Raiders(pre Mortarion) rather than as Deathguard(post Mortarion)
Which is at least partially rose tinted glasses shit going on
Their number one opp is Typhus though
They want him dead more than anyone else, they hate him more than even the likes of Horus and Abaddon
They have a "no sacrifice too great" thing when it comes to wanting to wipe Typhys off the face of the fucking galaxy forever
verbal mortarBOT
Ayy dusk raiders!
Freyja E. Lindberg | R&D ↩️
vestal cedar
Honestly never given too much thought to the Deathguard or Dusk Raiders prior to working on the Dusk Defiant but i'm learning about them now
Nathaniel Garro my goat
Garro calling Dorn blind and Dorn telling Garro to get on his knees and prepare to die has to be one of my favourite exchanges in 40, close second to Rylanor telling Fulgrim to fuck off and die
verbal mortarBOT
Honestly when it comes to the original 18 founding there’s about 3-4 legions we like and that’s space wolves, World Eaters, Death guard/Dusk Raiders, and Luna Wolves