Specifically I’m talking about like, who valve wants to be the face
#Deadlock
lavish grove
maiden ledge
ohh
lavish grove
Not just the most popular characters online
maiden ledge
abrams
somber creek
Abrams probably
maiden ledge
yea
somber creek
Though also weirdly enough Lady Geist
maiden ledge
abrams and maybe infernus
lavish grove
I was thinking Abrams because he was on the original main menu, haze because she’s on the main key Art the game’s steam page uses and Pocket because they’re always shown at the top of patch notes
spring tundra
Abrams absolutely
rich grove
abraham and hazothy were the original main menu figures
whole moon
playing against actual people still also hard but i did carry lash, sinclair, and haze to at least one round of victory
vast sandal
Abrams and Haze have strong Sol vs Ky energy
whole moon
also the enemy doorman commed me for starting to hit him in the face specifically
vast sandal
Protagonist type energy but chaotic vs lawful
Haze is LG but working for at best a lawful neutral organization
somber creek
Geist and Lash are now the main menu characters though
jovial yacht
Army Recruiter Haze
worldly dirge
mcginnis ult is just built different
worldly dirge
Yup
I went in there, ulted and killed about 3 people every time
I bullied the viper a bit too, i remember she wanted to ult me but petrified my turret that i had placed next to me instead
She promptly died
I could probably clip it
I love built in replays, it so handy
I cant bother to record myself and sometimes there are really funny moments where telling it verbally doesn't do it justice
worldly dirge
This is the match beffore that one, we lost due to us all being dead and out patron being taken, halt the team decided to push middle to contest mid boss, to say the least it went bad and they all died, i was stuck 1v1 the pocked, i didn't win
Poor silver was a new player and was suffering
Could proc ult property and kept feeding
late hare
*Saul Goodman voice:* LIGHTNING BOLTS SHOOT FROM MY FINGERTIPS
vast sandal
I figured out this Lady Geist shit
I'll pull the replay of this match later because there's an Incident where a Geist ult led to me turning around a gank really hard on them
pictured: the incident
rich grove
vast sandal
also I'm starting to suspect T3 Life Drain is really fucking dangerous
having charges available AND more Spirit scaling AND it scaling well on every single item Geist wants to take makes it kind of menacing lategame
merry verge
Ogh especially into that close range team
vast sandal
I almost went Healing Tempo
but instead my funny green item was Dispel Magic because their Silver kept throwing a Silence Wave in my face to stop me from using my ult and after the first time I got jumpscared I said "alright I'll show you funny items"
runic cedar
deadlock at a reasonable time, SPLENDID
viral onyx
deadlock at a reasonable time, SPLENDID
You in?
runic cedar
mid streetbrawl gimmie 5
runic cedar
Ingame name?
Wizard Soap
viral onyx
Wizard Soap
Might be easier
shy quiver
runic cedar
im sorry you had to go through that, next time street brawl?
jovial yacht
Weon 0-26-2
Oof 26 death?
viral onyx
Oof 26 death?
Yeah
jovial yacht
In a normal deadlock?
agile rune
part of that could be an aussie internet thing
jovial yacht
That too
viral onyx
In a normal game, yeah
viral onyx
I spent about halt the match waiting to respawn, head out, and get CCed to death in 0.5s again
Venator
jovial yacht
Ok, thats really rough, i don't think you know about item and the item shop very well
Were you just building as the building guide told you to build?
viral onyx
No, it's the Sleeplovl into damage nuke
viral onyx
Were you just building as the building guide told you to build?
Yrah
agile rune
can just generally be rough getting into it
jovial yacht
Yeah, deadlock as a moba is still really hard to get into
Streetfight is generally a lot more easier
viral onyx
The accusations of throwing didn't help
jovial yacht
No, it's the Sleeplovl into damage nuke
Rem does it again
viral onyx
Rem does it again
Not Rem
agile rune
I don't think items are what fount was having trouble with but neither you nor I were there kukri
viral onyx
The sleep dagger lady
agile rune
The accusations of throwing didn't help
yeah that's always fucking annoyin
agile rune
The sleep dagger lady
haze
jovial yacht
Yeah that definitely makes this more sad
agile rune
yeah that's always fucking annoyin
and then you stress, so you play worse, then it cycles
viral onyx
Yeah that definitely makes this more sad
Said accuser got one kill the entire match, for a bit of vindication
jovial yacht
I don't think items are what fount was having trouble with but neither you nor I...
Thats fair, with so many factors that can come in a single deadlock match. It can be a mutitude of reasons
agile rune
fwiw I'm currently unable to play cause laptop has decided deadlock is verboten but when I can play we might be able to duo for some low stakes stuff, like streetbrawl or some bot games
agile rune
understandable
viral onyx
There was parts of the map Haze wasn't!
jovial yacht
I mean, to make you feel better, i under-perform as a victor and my doorman laning partner got really mad at me
viral onyx
(Billy/Ivy duo, have fun moving)
viral onyx
Yeah
I just feel
I leaned nothing?
Because I didn't get to actually play the game
jovial yacht
That is true, mobas are really hard to learn lessons from as well since you can often get stuck in the respawn zone
But from what i tell you on mobas is that, they are far more tean oriented than it seems. Your performance will affect your teammates. Which is why people can get mad really easily
viral onyx
No souls = less power
jovial yacht
https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1ruhruy/this_kickass_freezefra...
Protein
viral onyx
No power = less gameplay
jovial yacht
Yeah mobas can get rough, if you still want to play a few games i can hop in on call to help
Mobas can suck, but they really do suck less with a friend
Although, it can also bring the worst out in people
viral onyx
I'm in bed rn, sorry
viral onyx
It might a little, yeah
agile void
jovial yacht
Tbh if they were any better, instead of flaming, they could actually give you call outs. I've seen that communicating good advice and strats is generally a lot better than just blaming others
viral onyx
Woulda been nice if they did that
jovial yacht
It would, but not everybody is perfect
Especially at low ranks
God being low ranks definitely doesn't help
viral onyx
Instead of calling me a liar when I said it was my first game, and threaten to report me
jovial yacht
The good old moba welcome i guess
Sorry you had to exprience that
I doubt dota or LoL is any better but oh well
viral onyx
Is one kill in a match with Vindicta any good?
agile void
Honestly that is why in a stream with someone I know I told them to just mute by default
she is a seeker, whatever callouts her teammates would do is not going to be useful, not at this rank
frail jasper
You should always mute people who bring negative energy to your day, simply do not acknowledge them
agile void
So i told her to at least mute them until she is at least alchemits or so, or feels sure of herself enough to ignore the doubters
jovial yacht
Is one kill in a match with Vindicta any good?
Its always hard to say tbh
Sometimes the game goes and everybody just eats dirt and thats normal
Kills aren't the only deciding factor
viral onyx
You should always mute people who bring negative energy to your day, simply do n...
I don't even know enough about the game to mute
jovial yacht
Yeah how exactly do we mute people, i have not figured that out
frail jasper
You press Escape and on the right side of the screen you can mute the players icons.
frail jasper
It's not unusual at any rate, so try to find some solidarity that this isn't just a You Thing. Deadlock can be hard to get into (there's a lot of different things that need to be learned and it takes time) and moba games in general tend to draw some particularly toxic people. Best you can do is try to have fun while learning, and just not engage with people who try to flame you for entirely valid lack of experience
viral onyx
Yeah
I just...
Hate letting people down
And
Someone grinding it into me that I suck really doesn't help
plain furnace
Do you play with friends ?
frail jasper
I can relate. I really hated my earlier games where I just kept getting obliterated as soon as I respawn, and not understanding why it was happening or how to recover from it. It's mostly a matter of learning though, familiarity with the challenges and practicing the skills that help you do better
plain furnace
I think it can help to be at least 2 to have a better feeling
also, I don't use in-game voice chat to avoid those frictions (there's still text, yeah, but writing means you're dead or you're not playing at the moment)
viral onyx
Yeah, this was text
I was doing so bad
I got chewed out
In text chat
I, of course, had plenty of time to reflect
frail jasper
Next time, mute early. It works on anyone and you'll feel a lot better having that influence removed. It won't directly solve you getting dunked on by enemies, but it keeps your mood in a better state
viral onyx
Did you know the respawn timer can go up to over 100 seconds?
Does muting work on text chat?
frail jasper
Yes
Ally or enemy
And frankly even if someone's not targeting you with flame, it's good to mute them too (and encourage others to mute them)
Rage babies don't deserve attention nor respect
warm sonnet
Half of a decent game is good mentals, the other half is fundies
tidal elm
First thing I do is completely mute voice chat, sometimes even text
League taught me well
The age old saying always applies
"There's nothing vc or text will do to help a bad play"
Most of the time pings are and will be enough
warm sonnet
Wait fuck, I didn't know Oracle was not in the lower brackets...
Am I the best deadlock player the world has ever seen?
terse aspen
Half of a decent game is good mentals, the other half is fundies
So, fundamentals and just mentals?
agile void
Wait fuck, I didn't know Oracle was not in the lower brackets...
Oracles are literally 3 ranks behind eternus
agile void
aka, never looked at the rankings until now
warm sonnet
So, fundamentals and just mentals?
Good fundamentals require good mentals, but knowing the underlying mechanics of the game does a lot to inform good actions and circumvent anti-winning behavior, for yourself and for the team.
lavish grove
*Am I the best deadlock player the world has ever seen?*
Yes
Well, actually no
Second best
because I’m the best deadlock player
warm sonnet
I am the best deadlock player...
Thank you, Magma
frail jasper
AFAIK there's like three actual "skill groups" as far as the ranks go
- Skittles (the various colored ranks from Initiate to Archon)
- Oracle, Phantom, Ascendant (mostly know what you're doing but ABSOLUTELY NOT indicative of actual competence)
- Eternus (pro gamers, people who have no job and play 18 games per day)
and getting put into the "wrong" category is fairly common
warm sonnet
Aw man
frail jasper
I was down in like Alchemist until the population surge threw me up to ritualist and then again to archon, and at that point I could play the game enough with teammates who didn't ult an empty street (they didn't know what the button did) and made it into Oracle
but being stuck in alchemist where the players were either entirely incompetent or wildly underranked (due to the aforementioned misplacing) sucked
tidal elm
played my first ever Pocket game and fuck, they are sad
"God forgive me" as I cover the opponents in frogs
get Pocket a snicker or smthing gods
tidal elm
I legit cannot wait to get more lore sauce, the amount of possible implications and soft worldbuilding are endless
lavish grove
Oh man the horseman of pestilence being inside the case would make so much sense
finite patrol
I always took it as biblical plagues
warm sonnet
The Frogsthem of the BIPOCalypse
lavish grove
I always took it as biblical plagues
I mean the horseman of pestilence is technically a biblical plague
It’s from the Bible and causes many plagues
finite patrol
the ones that happen in egypt
warm sonnet
I'm the bit
finite patrol
warm sonnet
lavish grove
If I’m running down mid
And I see a viscous ult as big as the lane?
I’m leaving the game
I refuse to engage
agile void
"Im not dealing with the pyrocinycal build"
lavish grove
https://youtu.be/3rVyC8p_B5E
Also they probably should fix that diminishing returns bug
I’m not sure it’s actually triggerable in game
But like, it could affect future stuff
agile void
Imagine the goo splatter with the white viscous mod
whole moon
lets not!
warm sonnet
That's just Portal 2
tidal elm
one thing I noticed about Geist model is the "noir light and shadow cut" on her eyes
like Morticia has in the Addams Family
agile void
to be fair we do know that at the very least she loved her late husband
her gun is a gift from him
lavish grove
Chat, what would you call characters like Mirage and Mina?
agile void
technically Asians?
lavish grove
Where most of their damage comes from their gun but not because of the gun itself but because of an ability their gun triggers
somber creek
lmao
agile void
ah, spell gunners
somber creek
On-Hit
agile void
also that
lavish grove
Ah yah that works
agile void
those heroes also get fucked by disarming despite not being inherently gun
gray otter
Where most of their damage comes from their gun but not because of the gun itsel...
uhhhh risk of rain dps
lavish grove
Mina irl
warm sonnet
feast or famine, broke
risk or rain, bespoke
merry verge
That's Haze with a hat on
lavish grove
I mean kinda yah
warm sonnet
Hotbox Haze
gray otter
Where most of their damage comes from their gun but not because of the gun itsel...
also they just turned ivy into one of these apparently
warm sonnet
Funnily enough, Risk of Rain Man is both Haze and Venator
gray otter
by killing her weapon's actual damage
lavish grove
also they just turned ivy into one of these apparently
Not really
Ivy doesn’t use any of her abilities for her gun damage now
She just builds on hit items
lavish grove
It’s not like Djinn’s mark or love bites where you shoot until an ability builds up
gray otter
you werent talking about firerate dps you were talking about characters with actual abilities that proc based on shooting people
lavish grove
Yah
merry verge
Is Djinns Mark gonna stay this way forever, 900 damage at 10 minutes feels heavy
warm sonnet
semi imo
lavish grove
I mean kinda but I’d say more due to her skulls then her 3
tidal elm
I gotta say, new infernus
kinda loathe the bastard.
warm sonnet
Miramina have their stuff as core
tidal elm
all I see is just flame dash ticks killing ppl
slowing hex works ofc, but ppl just don't buy it
merry verge
Paige Book not becoming a two story building with range is nice
warm sonnet
But my reading club!
merry verge
Just a lot of floor is lava lately
gray otter
i gotta say it is a LITTLE disconcerting to see items like mystic vuln/mystic slow that have effects that are very obvious on the base item but then you upgrade them and those effects get folded into the base stats
warm sonnet
*note, the reading club is what I use on the nerds at the library
tidal elm
ye, a bit much honestly
gray otter
Paige Book not becoming a two story building with range is nice
did they nerf bookwyrm
merry verge
Oh I mean Captivating
merry verge
She certainly has a theme
gray otter
"paige book"
lavish shale
Her 3 gains less height from range
gray otter
gray otter
Her 3 gains less height from range
ahhh i see
lavish shale
So the AoE doesn't extend upwards as much as it used to
gray otter
thats probably fair
lavish shale
They did this for a few other AoEs too
merry verge
It's so damning to get hit with lategame
Paige and Knockdown starts off so much of the CC Pain Train
lavish shale
Deserved for existing in Paige's LoS clearly 
somber creek
I really wish they'd fix certain abilities hitting you through floors
It's really inconsistent
lavish shale
Why does Rem ult work through walls
vital knoll
To encourage you to use counter spell and unstoppable idk
gray otter
why does bookwyrm ??????? walls
gray otter
why does bookwyrm ??????? walls
the ways bookwyrm interacts with walls are a complete enigma to me
somber creek
Rem at least specifically says it goes through walls
lavish grove
It’s probably just my rank but I never seem Rems, Calicos and M&Ks use the vents
Do y’all?
merry verge
MnK i understand cause he can get trapped easily
astral lava
the vents are an enigma to me
gray otter
the ways bookwyrm interacts with walls are a complete enigma to me
its like
if the book she throws hits a wall before it turns into a dragon, it bounces off and changes trajectory
if the dragon hits a wall it gets stuck or slides along the wall
BUT SOMETIMES if the dragon hits a wall it bounces off
vital knoll
I do not believe in the vents because I do not play miniature heroes
lavish shale
Don't know where they are, don't know where they connect and where they lead
astral lava
theyre not on the minimap anywhere so not only am I gonna not know where to enter them im extremely not gonna know where they exit
lavish grove
MnK i understand cause he can get trapped easily
Yah if they really want them using the vents they gotta pause burrow’s timer while in them
astral lava
are they even efficient movement routes or is it just a couple crates
lavish grove
They are more efficient then normal roaming yes
merry verge
I once more find myself asking 'Did Calico/MnK need this'
astral lava
you get a speed boost in them?
lavish grove
Yah
astral lava
huh.
agile void
astral lava
deadlock add real documentation in game and my life is yours
lavish grove
Yah you get a massive boost to your sprint speed in them
astral lava
perspective is so fucked in there ive never noticed in the few times ive gone in
astral lava
absurd lol
lavish shale
I've only been down there like once with Rem, and just don't bother most of the time
astral lava
again if they somehow put them on the minimap I would more regularly know they exist
but they functionally only exist for 2 characters so extremely easy to not pay any mind
a rem could pop out of a vent and I would just assume he walked around a corner and thats why I didnt see him
vivid nimbus
MnK has to be real smart about vents AFAIK, either smart routes where they can get in and out on one trip, or planning it so burrow ends just after entering so they can re-burrow to exit
Especially b/c many exits require jumping up to, which MnK can't do while burrowed
agile void
so Warp stone or buy duration
vivid nimbus
Warp stone sorta deals with that issue yeah, but can be finicky in tight spaces
agile void
still, not the same freedom compared to ava/rem
and even then, I think calico Can get trapped in the tunnels if she isnt careful
gray otter
working on my OC's kit again, trying to figure out a) how to make the 2 less parasitic and b) what to make the 4 do
vivid nimbus
If you want 2 to also work on its own, make it heal allies that are either near you or near a flower
gray otter
yeah that sounds like the best bet
the only thing i know about the ult is that i want it to be some kind of big cc button
ooh what if it planted seeds in a massive area that could be manually activated one by one via recast to immobilize people
agile void
so technically ivy 1 as a ult?
gray otter
ok im not actually sure how to make this work given that deadlock's map is not one big flat plane
agile void
"Fuck there is a third Axis"
gray otter
tadaaah
agile void
so the things charge aoe thingy?
gray otter
im worried thats too punishing
agile void
You would already have vortex web
gray otter
like at that point its comparable to a 9 second vortex web
agile void
either to set it up or not allow thwm to escape
gray otter
and WITH vortex web its a little redundant
agile void
not really because they will probably be spread out
gray otter
i guess
idk im not huge on "this ability does the same thing as this item (slowing hex in this case) but More"
like yeah vortex web Is Good with this ult
and as a result of that i dont want to make them overlap too much
ults that do damage over time are typically not compatible with lightning scroll, right?
agile void
ults that do damage over time are typically not compatible with lightning scroll...
....
they do
what you think its seven and mcginnis?
gray otter
i couldve sworn that pocket couldnt buy lightning scroll
agile void
Because literally their skill points out that it doesnt trigger items
agile void
finite patrol
their skill
agile void
yeah sorry just changed it
gray otter
...does seven's ult proc lightning scroll every tick
vital knoll
Fun fact Affliction can pop Victor ult
agile void
only when you stop being affected by it
vital knoll
Nonlethal damage from any source can
agile void
Nonlethal damage from any source can
doesnt it also can trigger spirit burn despite it mentioning it doesnt make item procs?
but that is more because its spirit damage, not the ult itself
gray otter
yeah i believe so
vital knoll
I don't know for certain tbh
gray otter
thats why i didnt realize it specified it couldnt proc items
i saw it proc spirit burn
agile void
but yeah lighting scroll would hit when ult ends or someone escapes it
gray otter
i see
gray otter
but yeah lighting scroll would hit when ult ends or someone escapes it
oh does each proc of lightning scroll reset the timer lmao
agile void
no, I think there is a inbuilt timer similar to like mina love bites
gray otter
oh so would they be getting stunned constantly while in the tremors or
vivid nimbus
Oh I thought the timer started on the first tick of each ult cast
may not have been paying attention
somber creek
Silver should not be able to buy lightning scroll
It is really annoying that you can get it in street brawl
gray otter
what does silver lightning scroll do
worldly dirge
I think the cooldown for lightning scroll is individual
gray otter
or is it just Nothing
worldly dirge
No wait its nothing, lighting scroll can only proc once per individual ult
lavish grove
Its impossible to proc
I believe it actually does proc off of tail swipe
I’ve tested that before
worldly dirge
So if you spam individual ults you proc it every time you activate the ult
gray otter
No wait its nothing, lighting scroll can only proc once per individual ult
ohhhh ok
that makes much more sense
worldly dirge
I remember it because of seven ult, it would only proc once in the 20 second but if i deactivated and reactited it proced for every time i did it
magic summit
Affliction does not proc spirit burn
lavish grove
I hope the next batch of 6 characters includes at least a few of the old hero labs characters
magic summit
It did for roughly 3 hours after spirit burn was added, in which I had a very funny game with it
Also lightning scroll procs off any damage silver does during ult
vital knoll
Slork my beloved
lavish grove
Keep on slorking!
lavish grove
Also lightning scroll procs off any damage silver does during ult
Ah neat
vast sandal
kinda loving the Geist ult dynamic
I find it extremely funny to get put at critical HP as geist and just go hide in a juke room or something, because inevitably someone is gonna come looking for a low-HP carry and get eaten alive
finite patrol
it giving you a second spiritual overflow that is enhanced after you ult with 5ap is nuts
narrow rover
I find it extremely funny to get put at critical HP as geist and just go hide in...
when im the one geisting it, I love it and its great
when I get geisted, its horrible, its broken, it needs an immediate nerf
this is the duality of moba players
lavish shale
When I play Geist, my ult also tilts me because I always seem to be just out of range to swap and then I die
final osprey
I love playing against Geist because she'll just walk towards and you just need to silence wave and then fail to kill her and she swaps anyway and you look the fool and everyone thinks your churlish
worldly dirge
Funny thing, geist ult bypasses pockest restriction on healing, a teammate learned it the hard way
vivid nimbus
Fucks me up that edge boosting is on the corner of a wall and corner boosting is on the edge of a floor
lavish grove
I think I hate that
plain furnace
https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1rv9m67/niche_ball_knowledge/
a random WoD meme ? In my Deadlock ? More likely than you think
final osprey
Edge boosting is on the edge of a wall and Corner boosting is on the corner of the floor. Change your mindset change the world
finite patrol
🚨
finite patrol
from https://bsky.app/profile/cadroper.bsky.social on their hellsite account
Bluesky
warm sonnet
Catholic Billy
somber creek
narrow rover
without all the deadlock music and bullets and magic flying around
this clip sounds so naked
ik that’s a funny sentence but surely someone feels the same way
finite patrol
"He knows about you too."
https://bsky.app/profile/8castle.bsky.social some nsfw on the profile
Bluesky
rich grove
sans
finite patrol
OOOOOUUUUAAAAOOOGHHHHH
rich grove
agile void
rich grove
my goat returns to terrorise yet another game
still swan
We don't question the cube
glass flicker
jovial yacht
jovial yacht
https://youtube.com/shorts/9niUs1sNrmk?si=jWYdCiBegD1UKDZ9
Damn same video
glass flicker
lol
steep halo
if anyone free to play, they can join my vc
mint latch
Ok, maybe an aiming heavy character like GT isnt the best for me who is ass at aiming
agile rune
or he is motivation to develop that skillset
jovial yacht
Ok, maybe an aiming heavy character like GT isnt the best for me who is ass at a...
I mean, you can build the bird
vestal hearth
By ¯_(ツ)_/¯ (@officeanomaly) on Twitter.com.
agile rune
carmilla is a nice touch
agile void
god I really need to make that model
vast sandal
paige you gotta stop seducing vampire women
mint latch
paige you gotta stop seducing vampire women
There's multiple?
agile rune
there's usually 3 if I remember the story right
worldly dirge
how it feels when the enemy has a mirage
agile rune
I'm confident mirage is cracked this patch
worldly dirge
I'm confident mirage is cracked this patch
same, it says it going up to 5 marks with a 2x multiplier each but im pretty sure it does the damage of 6 marks
lavish grove
From @ mindcabbage_
glass flicker
Venator going to a pub and causing such a scene even Silver is impressed
Venator standing up on the bar and going on such an anti-Protestant anti-English rant that the Vatican has to put out a statement saying they don’t condone his actions
worldly dirge
It does the damage of 16 single marks
it should not be 16, each mark is 2x and you can have 5 max so a 10x multiplier, 12x max but the damage feels way higher than that most of the time, i suspect a bug or its not explaining it well
warm sonnet
may also be items kicking in too? Spell Amp, Resistance Reduction?
agile void
yeah mystic vuln might be a thing too on top of toxic
worldly dirge
maybe the bonus damage is being added into the djinn's mark damage on the damage sources
it maxes out on 5 marks so its suposed to be 10x
just tested it
vital knoll
it should not be 16, each mark is 2x and you can have 5 max so a 10x multiplier,...
Each mark doubles the current damage. 5 stacks is not 10x, it's 32x.
Exponential not linear
I guess 16x the damage of a single stack
vital knoll
It's 31 for one stack
62 for 2
124 for 3
248 for 4
496 for 5
agile void
and every djinn mark is functionally adding another ^2?
vital knoll
and every djinn mark is functionally adding another ^2?
No
worldly dirge
the changed the wording around and made it a bit more confusing
it say you can have 5 marks and each does 2x
vital knoll
It's 31*(2^[marks -1])
agile void
I fucking hate math
worldly dirge
the 2000 damage burst scare me
vital knoll
It's 31 for one stack
62 for 2
124 for 3
248 for 4
496 for 5
This is the clearest one if you're not into math
Each step doubles the previous step
magic summit
It used to be the stack number denoted the current multiplier but they changed it to just the number of stacks on you to make it easier to understand and people are more confused, it seems
agile void
ok so Djinn mark equal damage if more than one djinn mark then double that damage again
fuck Im not ready to do a example in computer math rn
vital knoll
It's 31*(2^[marks -1])
This is the analytical formula
Where 31 is replaced by whatever your base damage is since it scales on spirit
raven spindle
Venator standing up on the bar and going on such an anti-Protestant anti-English...
as is his god-given duty
agile void
worldly dirge
maiden ledge
I played some more matches and I reached Arcanist again! And stayed!
ivory reef
hmm
vast sandal
they're just a little pookiebear
meanwhile pocket: on the run for their life, surviving with nothing but a suitcase full of ghosts and a lever-action shotgun
this is still one of the funniest batcase images
undone galleon
recognizing pocket as tma
rocky cobalt
this is still one of the funniest batcase images
it's really good
short quiver
this is still one of the funniest batcase images
Mina might be a awful person but at least she's not bigot
maiden ledge
recognizing pocket as tma
ohhhh tma pocket [loud singular click is heard in my brain]
warm sonnet
Mina might be a awful person but at least she's not bigot
Well, for as long as she benefits from not being one
terse aspen
I think that's a different one, but I don't know which one that is
agile void
I thought the ship name was blood bag
thing is, everyone is technically a blood bag by vampire standars
warm sonnet
Not bepo
vivid nimbus
Yeah it's EShift but also shoots DEADLY LASERS
I think it's kinda bullshit how much damage it does
edgy fog
Yes it is
we were going from "wow this is a hard fight" to "I have chewed through the graves and the billy had to watch"
as Rem
worldly dirge
that happens
narrow rover
nah fam im starting to hate this game
tidal elm
If you focus on having a positive kda, that's 1 game out of 10 in the majority of cases
Means nothing as long as you commit to the win
tidal elm
Sirclar with 0 farm, no crops in their fields
narrow rover
If you focus on having a positive kda, that's 1 game out of 10 in the majority o...
you’re right
i’m focusing on the wrong thing
narrow rover
i went 4/13/8 on bebop the other day
i was 5/11 on haze, turned it into a 10/11 by the end
I am simply the breast and I need to give myself more credit
vital knoll
I play Victor, I win the game 1/8/11 and in the last few fights I'm Thanos and that's fine because I am kenough
merry verge
I usually end up with a mountain of assists because I rarely get the final slap
tidal elm
Take the mentality of
If the enemy objective is down
You did your job
Always Be Farming
And you're good
narrow rover
you were so right @tidal elm
tidal elm
Fundamental, always reliable 🙂↕️ 🙂↕️
glass flicker
Rem shouting “play with me grandpa” at Grey Talon
Unintentionally flashbanging Wesley with D-Day levels of trauma is like half the casts favorite pastime isn’t it
vast sandal
It’s not unintentional for Drifter
somber creek
He would have let GT know
agile rune
Drifter is in it for the hate of the game
vast sandal
let em know
lavish grove
Just had a Victor game where I want 0/4 in lane, lost guardian by 5 minutes
Ended it with 62K by 30 minutes and raid bossing the entire late game
You really can accomplish anything as Victor if you stay in a side lane for long enough
maiden ledge
victor no matter what if you let him fuck off for 30 minutes youve basically lost
lavish grove
Yah it’s awesome
Because I love fucking off for 30 minutes
Also I do genuinely enjoy my jungle routing
maiden ledge
i love quickly taking wave, poking at an objective, and then dipping to jungle once someone goes oh shit i need to take wave before it takes a guardian
or a walker
lavish grove
It’s so fun
glass flicker
I gotta learn how to jungle better, I’m always behind on soul economy
torn gulch
Pull me out of so called high elo I am no longer enjoying this place
torn gulch
the adventures of 10am eu server
reef mist
the adventures of 10am eu server
thats awful
finite grotto
ey just won a game where we were 5v6 for 30+ minutes nicuh
still swan
Is this pin worthy
warm sonnet
It is spin worthy
glass flicker
bleak thicket
bleak thicket
https://deadlockmoves.com/
lavish grove
Chat, I know you can parry viscous goo punch
But can you Parry other melee abilities?
finite patrol
oh this rules
lavish grove
Like Billy bash down?
finite patrol
and you have to parry it 7 times in a row
merry verge
Punch gets the treatment because you can fire them like a semi-auto pistol
worldly dirge
they had to nerf it a little, still sad about it
finite patrol
its a bit much rn with recharging rush
vivid nimbus
They had to make it parryable before recharging rush even existed
finite patrol
I am aware.
vivid nimbus
Reasonable Rem build -> weird gun/spirit hybrid??
finite patrol
glass cannon and curse together is so grand
it looks like your problem is more likely to have been gt and silver not getting off the ground tbh
finite grotto
oh ye for sure
silver talon found hsi groove
but silver didnt sadge
couple people didnt retreat fast enough after a good teamfight and then it snowballed into a loss late
vivid nimbus
Don't feel like I see spellslinger and leech on Silver often
finite patrol
72k doorman with unupgraded mystic expansion
finite grotto
also
man reju fights sure be visual overload
but I did get a good parry in! (atleast i think that was my parry)
agile void
man reju fights sure be visual overload
if you are risking a 4v6, expect every ult to happen
still swan
sharp osprey
Would I be considered a beggar if I want to play but don’t have an invite?
worldly dirge
invite to what and i dont think that would be considered begging
finite patrol
just post your steam id and someone here can invite you
sharp osprey
Gimme à moment
frail jasper
Asking isn't begging. Continuing to ask after you have an answer is begging.
sharp osprey
Needs to be a 8/9
worldly dirge
right, you guys run deadlock games, completely forgot
terse aspen
Shouldn't the stats be 6/7?
sharp osprey
I can’t wait for this game to launch properly
vast sandal
The cast is Mina, Abrams, Yamato, Krill, Infernus, Wraith, and Doorman in order from easiest to hardest poker AI
sharp osprey
wouldn’t doorman just cheat
vast sandal
No he just has an impeccable poker face and a penchant for tormenting people with mind games
worldly dirge
wraith is a gambler, the only reason mo and krill are in the ritual is because they lost to wraith and have debt
sharp osprey
Oof
vast sandal
Infernus is also noted to be at Wraith’s Sunday night game regularly
As is Abrams
So I guess it could probably be Poker Night at Wraith’s but that’s not nearly as interesting and having Doorman as a secret boss character who only shows up because the game is at the Baroness would be dope
worldly dirge
would be funny if rem was there as a joke character
finite patrol
right, you guys run deadlock games, completely forgot
well you also need an invite to play the game still
vast sandal
Or, bonus character is Mo
worldly dirge
english weekdays arent my strong suit
vast sandal
Krill loses and goes “okay Maurice you’re up” and the mole smokes everyone
worldly dirge
aquired
sharp osprey
?role deadlock
finite patrol
But for someone if you dont already have the game you need to post steam id so someone can friend and add you
then they invite you to the game and it can take a little while up to a couple days for you to get access
sharp osprey
I tried that once and it didn’t work 😭
finite patrol
how did it not work
finite patrol
iirc you get a notification that says you have access to deadlock and then you can install it
sharp osprey
Ah
finite grotto
I vaguely remember sometimes the invite is not on the steam app but is when going on the actual website it's there but I could misremember for sure
sharp osprey
Oh ok
agile void
I got a mail first, but some péople just had the game added to their library without warning
sharp osprey
Steam username is gopalan_m
lavish grove
From @ meowyabi
narrow rover
"Creature- chair"
vivid nimbus
Idle thought: What if Callico's bonus souls on kill were unclaimed souls?
rich grove
you can kill the vindicta ap 5 upgrade but you can't kill the idea
whole moon
hello i just watched a haze bot spawn, press 4, and then get on the zipline so that her ult faded before she got to the walker getting attacked
i need to got to bellvue and throw spaghetti at valve's offices
finite patrol
I mean its an alpha. bot mode is very "make it exist first you can make it good later"
whole moon
this is true i mostly wanted to express a futile rage with pasta
finite patrol
there are so much better offices to throw pasta at in the greater Seattle area
frail jasper
Idle thought: What if Callico's bonus souls on kill were unclaimed souls?
they are unsecured souls
not dropped, but if she kills someone and gets them then dies, they'll drop
vivid nimbus
Oh that's what I wanted/imagined, okay
granite heath
hello i just watched a haze bot spawn, press 4, and then get on the zipline so t...
In that bot's defense I have done something very similar in a Street Brawl match.
vestal hearth
...
finite patrol
<@&1277035919182008330> Its Wednesday night deadlock in 45 minutes! I'm not feeling well so im going to take the night off, but the rest of yall should play
vast sandal
My internet is kill
vestal hearth
https://bsky.app/profile/saltyjub.bsky.social/post/3mhcar2uhak2k
I love this.
merry verge
I too am in sicktown, deadlock is far too much brain for now x-x
lavish grove
Man Chatroom, the friends of humanity really sounds like the name of a X-men villain group
lavish grove
~~unless that's the joke and i'm dumb~~
No I just forgot
merry verge
i had to check but i was like 'hey wait yeah'
vivid nimbus
(Night Shift) ||Melee Creeps defeated!||
finite grotto
cleanest game I have played yet yippie
shortly won after 😌
Man a thing I am really struggling with primarily on spirit heroes is when and even if to sell healbane primarily late
vivid nimbus
IME, sometimes you use spirit burn or a gun item for your anti-heal, sometimes you gotta rely on your teammates for antiheal
Crippling headshot is a pretty good gun item for spirit builds if you're rich AF
But yes healbane is often the last 1600 item someone sells
lavish grove
Any characters who like, actually build magic carpet?
Because rn while it’s very fun it also seems like kinda a gimmick item
glass flicker
Victor makes me very sad
still swan
need to jump back into Deadlock, I've been disracted by Mewgenics
agile void
Any characters who like, actually build magic carpet?
technically Mo
as in enough mos build it for the nickname "Mohammed and Kareem" to be a thing
agile void
agile rune
George W would
agile rune
apollo is just a footsies character, like juri
agile void
basically someone on twitter imagining the chars in fighting game context
undone galleon
theres gotta have been at least one fighting game where one guy's thing is portals
agile void
lmaooooo
undone galleon
this but w/ her umbrella
tidal elm
Mina could fight like Parasol from Skullgirls
A Viktor AMV with Subhuman Self from GGS just appeared in my mind
worldly dirge
I had a nasty duo of mo and seven magic carpet and combo me out of nowhere, i died twice to that, all from the safety of my jungle
finite grotto
You mean their jungle
worldly dirge
No
warm sonnet
You're in Krillward Mo's jungle now
agile void
A Viktor AMV with Subhuman Self from GGS just appeared in my mind
Except he doesnt really have issues with his body image
or what he "is"
his arc is honoring the dead he is made off alongside their families, and by proxy find out WHY he was made
If anything I see more Gravity fitting him
literally one of the lyrics is "does existence have a meaning?"
agile rune
his arc is honoring the dead he is made off alongside their families, and by pro...
also who made him
agile void
also who made him
Kinda but that is more a means to an end, he doesnt seem to care that much about his creator, he doesnt even call him father or something like that
agile rune
he's gonna kill him
agile rune
wow two of the characters I think are best this patch are at 0
astral lava
surprised at no mirage
finite grotto
that's one of the two
Mirage is in a very weird spot
I def agree that I think he should be really good but he somehow underperforms a lot
tracklock is obviously far far from perfect and doesnt have a lot of the data but it the most data we have on hand and on their he is like in all tiers hovering around 40 to 42% winrate
agile rune
it's not even like he needs really sick execution or to play some weird strategy
agile void
it's not even like he needs really sick execution or to play some weird strategy
the comments point out that he wants drawn out fights
which, I think its fair? most teamfights are quick in DNS
agile rune
to build stacks, makes sense
and newest patch buffed him sure but everyone got burstier
ty for the context jaacker
agile void
The one that surprised me is wraith
isnt she thanos these days? I know, comp so stuff is different, but still
... is she too greedy or has to farm too much to get online?
astral lava
she got nerfed out of True Absurdity and is still strong but shes still definitely a woman of late game
and people who are actually good at yhe game know how to end it before hypercarry time
final osprey
isnt she thanos these days? I know, comp so stuff is different, but still
She's like the 4th or 5th best m1 carry, which means although she's good she's just not as good as for example Venator or Geist.
agile void
@upbeat perch https://youtu.be/YDtNVEXMQUg
maiden ledge
there was one where a rem says "for your transgressions i have stolen four of your sinners" and i think about that every time i see a rem like that mf is probably stealing my sinners
agile void
there was one where a rem says "for your transgressions i have stolen four of yo...
if you dont know where a rem is, assume he is nearby the sinners
maiden ledge
i act like a scooby doo villain around rem like i would have won this match if it werent for those meddling minions and that rem, too
all his fault and no part of mine at all nope
lavish grove
I love getting mystic burst as Apollo in lane because it lets me one shot the small camps with my 1
glass flicker
I need to work on how I play standard mode, since they rebalanced Celeste I’ve been a drag on the team. Granted I also just find street brawl more fun
lavish grove
How do you build her?
glass flicker
I like that they got rid of the item limit, makes round 5 completely batshit insane
glass flicker
How do you build her?
I was mostly just following an existing build, only to be told by my friends that apparently there wasn’t a single spirit power upgrade in any of the ones I was using 
lavish grove
…yah that’s a problem
glass flicker
So right now I’m modifying the one I like to account for that and a few other things, and I’m trying to slowly learn the actual fucking mechanics of the game to one day make my own custom build
lavish grove
Good idea!
agile void
she aint a gunner
gray otter
she does use her gun a lot but its because her 1 makes it do spirit damage
glass flicker
I need to learn how to use her 1 better, I’ve been heavily reliant on her 3 for a while
final osprey
She's a gunner it's just that her gun damage scales on spirit imo.
finite grotto
i dont wanna be mean but
holy fuck this billy
addicted to the heavy melee b utton
glass flicker
Yeah I guess I should experiment with doing some more gun stuff for Celeste, not a lot of builds do that and I frequently find myself being kind of annoyed at how long it takes me to kill shit
worldly dirge
addicted to the heavy melee b utton
thats a skill issue on the billys part, he needs to learn to either parry bait or change his playstyle
why is he so invested in melee though, bully wants melee gun hybrid
glass flicker
I think going 6/21 is fair grounds for criticism tbh
finite grotto
tbf I also turbo inted in the midgame xd
worldly dirge
i consider myself feeding when i get 10 deaths
finite grotto
but we made it back
glass flicker
Like sure don’t crucify the guy but that’s a “sitting on the bench after the game and going ‘hey champ, let’s have a talk’” grounds
finite grotto
and game brought me to archon 3 yippie
worldly dirge
i would jokingly tell him to unbind his melee button
why did he get unstopable ?
i bet 70% of his damage is melee
finite grotto
it is actually crazy that he still did kinda a lot of work
worldly dirge
i guess he could have acted like a tank
finite grotto
i mean he outdamaged both haze and wraith with 24 deaths which is 👀
worldly dirge
the haze doesnt have ricoche i think
the wraith is throwing a little with the first 2 items
and doesnt have much for gun damage
idk what the wraith was building for
torn gulch
Im actually surprised silver is so up theee
I think Silver might be the reworked Aatrox of this game. Somewhat powerful on her own, able to thrive in structured environment of high level organized play, suffering in pubs to the fact that she needs team coordination to work well
worldly dirge
she gains 10k souls when she ults
vivid nimbus
https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1rxq3bs/night_shift_picks_and_...
I find it funny that so many people were complaining about McGinnis this week while Silver is more picked, more banned, and winning more often
agile void
I find it funny that so many people were complaining about McGinnis this week wh...
the thread is saying she needs to be hotfixed asap or ult numbers tweaked
mint latch
How would yall feel if there was a aoe primary fire hero?
merry verge
Idk how Silver is doing better in NS than before everyone getting buffed
vivid nimbus
AIUI, her laning got buffed even if wolf mode got nerfed
Which means in pro play, she's not getting punished in lane and she's going into the teamfight phase with more boons and more items
gray otter
How would yall feel if there was a aoe primary fire hero?
do yamato/paige/doorman count?
yamato has an aoe altfire and paige and doorman have piercing iirc
which is basically a line aoe
vivid nimbus
Viscous also has an aoe altfire
mint latch
Im thinking more like uhh, Soldier tf2 typa aoe
gray otter
yeah yamato sorta has that
mint latch
That's Demo
gray otter
yeah and demo is aoe
mint latch
Hmm
agile void
the problem with a "rocket" primary means that the character needs a normal gun as a m2
or a way to confirm souls
vivid nimbus
Wait how did her laning get buffed
She got lane buffs just after her release on Feb 4, and then more on Feb 12
mint latch
or a way to confirm souls
I see
vivid nimbus
Plus some of the ult nerfs from Mar 6 got rolled back, though that doesn't impact her lane much
agile void
I see
that is why people were doubtful of silver
or "melee only" heroes
silver at least can shoot half the time
vivid nimbus
Yeah Yamato's M2 is not good for securing souls, she still needs M1 for that
agile void
hell do they even confirm souls?
magic summit
Yes.
vivid nimbus
But her M2 is pretty dang good at lane pressure so IDK how you could make an AOE stronger than that as someone's only weapon option
magic summit
They've had a rocket hero in the files forever so I assume they've been having issues implementing it
agile void
the closest "rocket" we have in the game right now is Sinclairs bolt
and that shit redirects so even then its not a good example
also if the rocket needs to hit the aoe, they need to have innately good ways to be in the air to barrage you
vivid nimbus
Wraith card pre-buff was basically HL2 rocket
Now it's that but with funny bonus effects
agile void
you could give the hypotethical rocket guy the backpack that allows Soldier to float for a bit in the air
mina already shows its possible
vivid nimbus
BASE Jumper
agile void
wasnt sure of the name so I didnt wanted to misname it
also how the rocket would interact with the weapon damage or the AOE
it could be like how venator does it
vivid nimbus
If I was designing a rocket launcher guy I'd probably just put the rocket on 1
merry verge
Yamato bombs are already a devil in lane but we've been getting more Funny Bullets I spose
Just no juggling, had enough of that in tf2
finite grotto
do peple really feel yamato bombs are very strong? I see it mostly as a tool to get resto shoot of reliably
and like sometimes to splash when heroes are hiding
granite heath
Wraith card pre-buff was basically HL2 rocket
That's actually exactly how I described it to someone yesterday.
Who was confused I was hitting them behind cover.
agile void
and like sometimes to splash when heroes are hiding
Gun yamato was a thing because of that
fucking split shot
merry verge
With Yam bombs it's also a bit of them hitting you in the places you want to hide from Power Slash in
finite grotto
hmm maybe i need to use them a bit more
i basically never use them once i am out of early laning phase
magic summit
You hold alt fire out of grapple to proc mystic shot instantly
agile void
also mystic vuln
magic summit
What
agile void
if you have it
magic summit
Your grapple would already do that
agile void
isnt the grapple melee?
gray otter
mystic vuln is the one that applies spirit resist reduction on spirit damage
neither grapple nor altfire are doing spirit damage
agile void
oh the close range slash is melee
finite grotto
You hold alt fire out of grapple to proc mystic shot instantly
ohhhh i never thought of that sick!
integrating that immediately thanks!
gray otter
yeah none of this is proccing mystic vuln
agile void
you would need either crimson slash, powerslash, or torment pulse proc to activate it
finite grotto
also you dont really build mystic vuln in the first place on yam
agile void
so throwing a quick mystic shot in between DOES help
agile void
also you dont really build mystic vuln in the first place on yam
you dont? what about sap?
finite grotto
also not really
gray otter
yamato has two buttons that each deal a single hit of spirit damage and thats it
finite grotto
tbf torment is core and she has very short cds esp later
gray otter
fair
finite grotto
but ye i think you only go ee like if the enemy is mega mega tanky late
agile void
that Is why I thought it was good
finite grotto
i would prob even go spirit rend first tho to deal with a really tanky fellow
errant sphinx
Spirit snatch is really good on yamato
finite grotto
I dropped from archon 3 to 2 due to a game where 2 people of ours ragequit after 4 minutes wow.....and this was my first loss in 5 games
that sucks
finite grotto
Spirit snatch is really good on yamato
I am not sure yet if its a main inclusion into the build yet and I think yam players also seem divided
wait asecond
HUH
how???
lavish shale
I've seen that happen a couple times
Possible they just used the console to die?
Or its just a bug
vivid nimbus
Gramps tripped and fell
vestal hearth
I love my sewer electric man.
mint latch
Subway
vestal hearth
My subway electric man.
open nova
Drifter can skitter now!?!!?
glass flicker
A good mirage is oppressive as fuck, I was in lane against one last night and I was getting my ass beat
vast sandal
had a devious idea for a Geist build
Spirit Geist, 2 first, Magic Carpet to tether multiple enemies and fly after them
(and Healing Tempo, Boundless Spirit, Infuser, Radiant Regen etc)
agile void
isnt that the meta build beyond magic carpet and be more gun focused?
vast sandal
the meta build hasn't settled for new patch Geist
it's not clear if spirit or gun or hybrid is best
vivid nimbus
I went looking for a vid on reddit to share and found this instead
Okay found a Mina parry clip
https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1ry69qn/valve_implemented_my_mina_parry_im_so_ecstatic_if/
rocky cobalt
I do still think Drifter is just, like
literally dracula
got bored and stowed away on a boat to america sometime
but I admit I don't think that lines up too well with the timing of dracula the novel and there's maybe another classical literature reference I'm missing
Since Mina is already a dracula reference
agile void
isnt it just the 2 ways media presents vampires?
rocky cobalt
Well, yes, but more specifically, like
Maybe I'm overstating the theme of literary references in that batch of heroes actually idk
Because it's really just Mina, Victor, Paige if you're willing to be vague with it
agile void
or you are not aware about kind of the implications of him?
rocky cobalt
hence why I describe them as a batch
tidal elm
We get full on gothic horror up in NYC
frail jasper
No, viscous is a sea slime not swamp snot
vivid nimbus
I also feel like there's no rep for invisible man
somber creek
That is also Slork
merry verge
Maybe he's been here all along..
rich grove
I also feel like there's no rep for invisible man
stop deadnaming Haze
vivid nimbus
I just implicitly said Haze doesn’t count
undone galleon
shes only sometimes invisible
rich grove
yeah well the invisible man wears a hat and glasses sometimes
you don't know that haze isn't just going commando when she presses 2
undone galleon
lmao
rich grove
🤨
vivid nimbus
Her invisibility button says Smoke Bomb which implies a different flavor than “guy who’s always invisible”
rich grove
it now cleanses debuffs because she's putting her clothes in the wash
vivid nimbus
And part of Invisible Man’s schtick is that you can’t see what he’s doing when he messes with you, while Haze and Slork will destealth to kill you
rich grove
in fairness when the haze is on the other team
sometimes it feels like your teammates are, in fact, unable to see the player shooting them
undone galleon
they put in a perma-invisible character & they jsut dont use stealth at all
vestal trench
RISK OF RAIN 2 MODE
lavish shale
PvE mode would be fun honestly
woeful kiln
RISK OF RAIN 2 MODE
Infernus is already in Risk of Rain 2
spring tundra
lavish grove
Chatroom, you know what’s fucked up?
Victor is never remarked as smelly by even the characters who insult him
He is almost certainly, quite pleasant smelling
From all the preservatives and fragrances in him
maiden ledge
a pleasant smelly
glass flicker
I mean if you’re a bunch of corpses stitched together, probably one of the few things you can do to feel better is take a bath
vast sandal
holy shit
just played a 70 minute match that went to 1M souls
this Infernus player managed to slow the game down to a crawl by going maximim on Flame Dash / afterburn
finite grotto
this is actually the most orange team i have seen
agile rune
orange you glad I didn't say banana
final osprey
buy bullet skin become immune to entire enemy team for the duration I guess
woeful kiln
Victor is never remarked as smelly by even the characters who insult him
Well assuming vic here is nicknamed after the doc who’s also named vic then we’d be talkin bout the guy who learned french in 1.5 years. Ergo kinda relevant to assume further that he is vic from Shelley which means he learned hygiene too
tidal elm
Honestly
He might just smell of formaldehyde and spring water
woeful kiln
That might also be the case
jovial yacht
He gets called stinky cuz of the "its called aura" memes and from what i know he's the only character that has aura as an ability in the name
agile void
heroic aura erasure even if it is a buyable skill
short quiver
agile rune
new drifter run is so funny
undone galleon
its great right
warm sonnet
He should do the Akira slide whenever he turns during it