Deadlock

[lavish grove]

“Knowing people want to kill me and being forced to hide in the gutter is a good thing?” 

“Nah, it’s that it’s kept you out of the coming firing line.”```

Yah a bit unfortunate

[vast sandal]

hmm

I don't know if I love the Blue of Banishing mechanics

[agile void]

https://youtu.be/10rt6hWf6fY

I cant do it but I respect teaching the new players the tech

[lavish grove]

“What, you don’t wanna work with a genius engineer who revolutionized the occult industry single-handedly?” 

“Your revolution has only brought more bloodshed in this world, Fairfax is leading the world to ruin.” 

“Hey, I’ll stop making weapons for Fairfax when Fairfax stops paying so well.” 

“Oh trust me… that money will dry up very soon.”```

[agile void]

reminder that there is the hero concepts thingy in the forums

[lavish grove]

there is?

[maiden ledge]

In the lobbies I play we just hit each other until one of us falls over, no parrying involved.

[lavish grove]

Oh

[maiden ledge]

Until one of us learns to parry and then we all start parrying and it spreads like a virus

rookie lobbies are fun

[agile void]

https://forums.playdeadlock.com/forums/community-hero-ideas.84/

[agile void]

this

[lavish grove]

Oh shit, yah I’ll try posting Bayo there then

[agile void]

@warm sonnet pinging you too

[lavish grove]

Also @glass flicker

[agile void]

didnt wanted to be mean cutting the conversation but I did feel that it was kind of taking over the channel a bit, and there is a way to share your ideas with the whole community in other ways

[warm sonnet]

👁️

Ya definitely

OC saloon is a bit better place for such discussion

[lavish grove]

Yah that’s fair

[tidal elm]

`New info from this 'Ghostwriter' guy

Skins already exist for Wraith, Dynamo, Gray Talon, Holliday, Vindicta, Kelvin, Ivy, Apollo, Graves, and Victor. There are parts of skins and effects that you can mix & match like in Dota 2.

There are also sprays for each hero - Dynamo's was a blackboard with a mathematical formula & if you punch it, the entire text is crossed out with chalk. Holliday's featured a pipe-smoker. If you break it, a bloody hand with an eye inside appears (probably Troubadour related)
`
From IntelDeadlock on TW

[lavish grove]

Oh cool

[tidal elm]

it seems we are getting a system similar to how Dota handles skins, with parts and whole skins

[agile void]

wouldnt it be more closely related to like, tf2?

[tidal elm]

nop cause it's both individual cosmetics and whole skins that modify the model (as a whole)
TF2 is just parts like hats and accessories

[lavish grove]

Chat, how do I even make a profile on the deadlock forums?

nvm

[glass flicker]

Poggers

[narrow rover]

ignore the seeker 5, im oracle on main

or I was back in 2025

[vivid nimbus]

Out of control Haze but zero disarming hex or curse. Checks out

[tidal elm]

no metal skin either, they really though bullet res would save em

[narrow rover]

yeah they had nothing for me, doorman was the only one who kinda tried

well billy had plated armor too

but

[hallow zenith]

I used to not think much of metal skin, and then I tried it once and wow it really works

Although it doesn't stop on-hit effects

[finite patrol]

why you smurfing

[lavish grove]

https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/hero-concept-bayo-the-revolutionary.117684/

Ive posted the Bayo thread

I will also stop posting about him unprompted here, I’ll save it for #1356366183653310644

[narrow rover]

main's banned rn

sometimes I have to step away due to irl obligations, the short of it is I am my grandmother's caregiver and she'll call me whenever she needs me, so I step away from the game etc

[astral lava]

for what

Ahh

Yeah caretakings hell of a thing

[narrow rover]

and its frequent enough to where I can get some punishment's for it

yeah, its...its a thing 💀

I think the worst part is getting woken up so frequently at night, that takes its toll

but otherwise, im just happy that Im physically well enough to help her

Id hate to imagine her being in one of those shitty nightmare old person homes

[mint latch]

I am tempted to pick up grey talon

[agile void]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1rtkunk/doorman_abusing_void_gets_choke_slammed_into_the/

[mint latch]

May or may not be given the idea due to this

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/s/qRoj3ED6Mg

[lavish grove]

McGinnis ult

[narrow rover]

I love gt

he ca be played as an off carry, but hes mostly support/utility

[mint latch]

Almost sounds like my kind of character

[edgy fog]

A te

[narrow rover]

he can do some crazy gun or spirit builds too

[edgy fog]

explodes

[mint latch]

What

[narrow rover]

gun talon= more off carry esque, spirit talon is more utility iirc.

im more partial to gun talon, but launching 15 birds a teamfight is funny as fuck

[lavish grove]

Spirit talon is having a map wide nuke online every minute

[narrow rover]

Al-Qaeda would like a word with Talon

wow I cannot spell

[mint latch]

Icbm type shit

[narrow rover]

but yeah, a nuke bird execution is super fun, just not as consistent

as id like

I love gun builds

theres also fun ass builds where you turn your 1 into a fucking 50'cal round

practically executing everyone

[mint latch]

Neat

[narrow rover]

if you're smart enough/knowledgeable enough (im neither) you can make a bomb ass build in the sandbox

[vivid nimbus]

McGinnis and GT ults were mentioned, but this can also be Doorman bells and Geist bombs

[warm sonnet]

The Lady Bomber Geist is just a strong Geist in general

[mint latch]

Are they those playstyles in general?

[terse aspen]

I thought Geist was, although apparently she also is or was good with a gun build?

[vivid nimbus]

If you play spirit Geist, yeah you throw big bombs on the floor and also use 3 to make bombs do even more damage

[terse aspen]

And the bombs can have a pretty long range

[vivid nimbus]

If you play gun Geist, bomb AFAIK is mostly for keeping spellslinger and berserker stacked

[warm sonnet]

It is also just a good source of damage and consistent healing with T3 and spirit lifesteal

[vivid nimbus]

Well IDK if gun geist builds leech or vamp burst

The latter feels like it could be huge for her

[lavish grove]

Chat, is there anyway to set a preference for what lane I want?

[warm sonnet]

not that I know of

[lavish grove]

Damn

[errant sphinx]

It's leech

[lavish shale]

Ballistic is also an option, with how easy it is to tag a few people

[vivid nimbus]

Oh right ballistic

[lavish shale]

I should try Spirit Geist again after it got buffed last patch

[lavish grove]

Also man it was just pointed out to me that all the members of the Baxter society have an animal theme to them

Grey Talon has owls, Calico cats and Shiv dogs

[somber creek]

Dogs?

Is he not more monkey like

[lavish grove]

There’s a couple of lines referring to him as muzzled

[warm sonnet]

I personally know several monkeys who are or should be muzzled

Thankfully, it is not my circus

He was originally a werewolf concept however

[lavish grove]

Honestly I think he still is a werewolf but that’s more just a lore thing

Since he’s still just a normal looking human in game

At least so far maybe he’ll change

[warm sonnet]

Yeah, the model rework will probably emphasize something more monstrous

Especially when he's raging

[whole moon]

having forced my gf to play pocket bc i was interested in them, this mostly seems like their gameplan

[mint latch]

I was about to say...

[whole moon]

with the occasional cheeky teleport into the middle of a teamfight to press 4

[vast sandal]

Pocket can be a bruisery initiator leaning on 3 and 4 or a full spirit nuker who leans on 1 and 2

Can Pocket heal from lifesteal via their ult or is that included in the “does not trigger item effects” clause

Started playing Lady Geist last night, this character is another stupidly good fit for me alongside Calico and Doorman

[lavish grove]

They can

[warm sonnet]

They can, yeah

[lavish grove]

If you pop infuser after a big ult you become immortal for a while

[warm sonnet]

Their ult cannot trigger stuff like Spirit Burn or Spirit Slow, and so on

Lifesteal isn't a triggered item effect per se, some items can improve your lifesteal stat, which gives you health when you deal that type of damage

[vast sandal]

Ight cool

[late hare]

been having a lot of fun times as Bebop, probably need to learn how he works outside of bomb builds though

like if Victor has a million HP no amount of sticky bombs is gonna end him unless all five of my teammates are there

[warm sonnet]

Unless you farm him for bomb stacks 😌

Endless back and forth healing

You uppercut him
Her batteries you
The dance of life

[vestal hearth]

Paige core:

[sand dome]

I build Bebop tanky/bruiser usually. Missing health heal on Uppercut Lvl 3, and you can get lifestrike on it being a melee hit. Run into a brawl and knock people around, grab carries sitting on the edges into the chaos, is fun

[twilit roost]

witchmail tankbop has been eating good since the uppercut change

[sand dome]

yes, is fun

[late hare]

ill have to look up that build

[narrow rover]

May I ask what your pfp is from, that hairstyle reminds me of a character from a game called Omega strikers

but the rest of the features/clothing/etc dont entirely line up, so I wanna make sure im not tweaking

[late hare]

It’s a vtuber! Buffpup, specifically

But I have vague recollections of what/who you’re referring to

[sand dome]

This one, more or less. I'll usually skip spirit resilience entirely. Spirit strike only if I'm doing good damage and getting a lot of bomb stacks in lane. The build does not include Torment Pulse, Colossus, or Scourge, but I think all of these are possibly decent as well for late item picks.

[narrow rover]

I love Average Jonas builds

[narrow rover]

okay sweet, thank you! it was driving me up the wall 💀

I was like "theres no way..."

[edgy fog]

Had a brawl where the victor was first time playing them

I advised them to pick up a particular skill to keep them alive, then grabbed scourge and stuck it on them

So they just ran people down like a lawnmower

and I am proud of him

and I got called a W Rem and was all pleased

[vital knoll]

[whole moon]

i love victor i love walking up to a teamfight and going hey man wanna see how bad this can go

[vital knoll]

Classic victor gaming

I'm kinda in on the new no lifesteal vic build tbh

[whole moon]

i just finished a big one against bots and somehow turned myself into a nightmare that got 25 kills

sometimes. walking at people. is the most effective tactic

[vital knoll]

That's victor!

[whole moon]

victor is the pyro of deadlock. just keep pressin W

i say this with all my love as a pyro main

[vital knoll]

That's why I, Pyro, play victor!

[whole moon]

my girlfriend has noticed that i call victor's ult being charged by saying oh im allowed to be a shithead and then diving the enemy team

[finite patrol]

its time to feed

[edgy fog]

It is honestly great

It's the dive notice

[rich grove]

FUCK IT WE BALL FUCK IT WE BALL FUCK IT

[edgy fog]

I will say, this victor, honestly a bit hesitant for who they were playing but they dove in hard and had scourge around them like ripping people apart. They got the watcher because they just... didn't leave when the enemy team showed up

[whole moon]

this is my other deadlock experience so far

[rich grove]

that's not how you spell the green boy's name

[earnest verge]

Victor's ult is definitely at its best when you're juuust hard enough to kill that the enemy has to try really hard to do it even once

[rich grove]

even better when you WILL take an objective with it

nothing feels worse than having to defend a tower or walker against a victor when you know that the building is going down, he might not even fulldie and you might die

[whole moon]

making the enemy waste so much effort to kill me twice has turned a fight around once or twice

[somber creek]

"Hey kids wanna see a dead body"

[lavish grove]

Chat just had a Victor game where I got 66K souls by 31 minutes

[whole moon]

farm harder. become big and strong.

[agile rune]

die more

[maiden ledge]

Mmm maybe it's time to play victorr

[lavish grove]

He’s

Quite strong

[maiden ledge]

mmmmm

DieMan

[lavish grove]

You get the slightest lead in lane and then sprint to a billion soul lead

It’s so fun

[maiden ledge]

Diehard Man

what's the thing for his ramp up btw

is it just standing in wave and jungles

[lavish grove]

Yes

He doesn’t have any special means to farm

He just pushes advantages really hard

[agile rune]

my solution when enemy victor is popping off is to ignore him

[whole moon]

Victor is fragile until you get lifesteal on your shit and then you get to Never Die

Silence and Burst Damage is the stuff that kills me the most

[agile rune]

unless you've got access to silence and or stuff to stop his healing, it's really just not worth it

[whole moon]

Silence him and he cannot press 2

[lavish grove]

Use curse

[agile rune]

curse and silence yeah

but if I don't have those it's just not worth the time, even if I do kill him

[whole moon]

Victor has an easy time bullying people out of lane

[vital knoll]

Victor is not amazing in lane imo he's just REALLY hard to bully out of lane

[agile rune]

I'm fine leaving to go cause trouble for other people

[vital knoll]

The way to shut down victor is just to kill him a bunch midgame

Don't let him get fat, and if he does, you gotta just spam curse, silence, and anti-heal

[rich grove]

crippling headshot helps a lot

[vital knoll]

Anything that reduces heal

But really the best answer to victor is to just not let him get there in the first place

He's so weak midgame

[agile rune]

or just spend the time he's getting fat bullying the rest of his team

[vital knoll]

...and then have to contend with a fat victor

[agile rune]

and you're fed from bullying the rest of his team and he has no one to support him

[rich grove]

if the rest of his team is dying then you should convert that into getting objectives and restricting his ability to farm safely

[whole moon]

vindicta also has bullied me a lot as Vic

bc if she times it right There I Go

[spring tundra]

i played uhhhhh

infernus

for the first time today

evil evil character

[rich grove]

he's back

[narrow rover]

Gunfernus

don’t @ me

[lavish grove]

That’s very normal I though?

[rich grove]

kinda not really

you need to build some spirit otherwise the dot does nothing

[narrow rover]

^

hes like a hybrid tbh

[rich grove]

yeah pretty much

[narrow rover]

I just like to lean into the gun more than the spirit

[rich grove]

you buy rof + toxic bullets to light people quicker and then spirit to actually deal the bulk of your damage

[narrow rover]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[rich grove]

but purer gunfernus has been in and out of meta for a while

[narrow rover]

🔥

GUNFERNUS M BELOVED

[rich grove]

catalyst amp allows for a lot of silliness

[agile rune]

sprintfernus

[narrow rover]

you’re not welcome here

sprintfernus my behated

[agile rune]

often true

[narrow rover]

the amount of times I get juked by sprintfernus is horrendous

don’t ask

ik he’s not that fast

[terse aspen]

Hmm

I wonder how well a full speed demon team would work

[spring tundra]

the toxic bullets combo feels so mean

[rich grove]

it's peak

[spring tundra]

also i love streetbrawl with infernus

using his 2 to just draw a line across the fighting lmao

[lavish grove]

Even more from @ rosewaterjelly

[narrow rover]

I love mina

I can fix her

[vivid nimbus]

No you can’t

[maiden ledge]

i just got to arcanist!

[vital knoll]

Congrats!

[lavish grove]

You could press 4 on silver to skip the channeling… this entire time?

Oh my god

I’m such a fucking moron

[maiden ledge]

I'm about to drop from arcanist!

[narrow rover]

I CANT DO ANYMORE

PLEASEW

SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING

[maiden ledge]

i dropped from arcanist

[agile rune]

rem and fern doing work

[narrow rover]

i actively tried to put my team on my back

and they kicked off of it every time

the only actual player on my team was warden

Look at these fucking builds

I refuse to believe these people are real

AI has worked its way into our games, we must stop it

[vast sandal]

someone's gotta make a Typical Day in the Cursed Apple bingo card

like the Dustbowl bingo card

the free space is "no counterpick items"

[narrow rover]

“support split pushing”

“gun build on spirit character”

“failed carry because team actually cannot be above 60 IQ”

i’m tweaking rn mb

[agile rune]

this should not ever happen because you should be buying the counters in that case

[narrow rover]

I did not put my heart and soul into that match, just for my team to actively push against me

[lavish grove]

DAY IN THE LIFE OF A TRUE CURSED APPLE GEEZER

[vast sandal]

some spaces could be:
typical antimage teamfight contribution
mad in chat
someone unplugs
k/d mentioned
clutch ult
teamfight ult used on single target
rem ate all the sinners machines
walker lost to troopers
beegees lost to troopers
shrine lost to troopers
sick parry
drifter/gt/mina/dicta with no stacks

mokrill could be a bingo space

I swear as soon as you add Mo n Krill to any match it's like the noise parameter was tuned up because everyone starts acting insane

[narrow rover]

i stay banning mo

cannot stand that dude

I can build against him, I can even 1v1 him on most of my characters MOST of the time, statistically speaking

but it’s so unintuitive and unfun

[vital knoll]

I play Victor I get comboed I live through it

https://tenor.com/mxOt3qQ7loD.gif

[lavish grove]

Ngl with the current system I don’t see much of a point in actually showing who was banned

Like, the characters are already chosen by then

[narrow rover]

the only reason I see it mattering is if I don’t get my prio char, I wanna see if they were banned

[lavish grove]

Showing who was banned was just showing what could have been

[narrow rover]

assuming nobody else has them

i’ll feel better about it being banned vs the rng just fucking me over

[lavish grove]

That’s fair I guess

[narrow rover]

I need you on my team bro, my victor cannot be real

[narrow rover]

but otherwise, you’re take is absolutely right and I 1000% agree, there’s no need to show bans

i think it’s cool that they do tho, it can kinda show how the enemy team might play

or at least a few people

IE: if I see a calico or another asssassin esque character banned, it tells me that I can dive and play really aggro

banned mo means they likely dislike tanks (or just dislike mo)

so on and so forth

[vast sandal]

It’s significant to the people who are max-priority on one character because they want to play a specific character

If there’s a character I’m specifically in the mood to play, I put my queue at +1 for everyone else and +2 for the one I wanna play rn

[narrow rover]

I have 2-4 +2 chars on average, a couple +1’s and like 2 0’s

i’m always getting somebody that I want 💀💀💀

2-4 bc sometimes I drop yamato and/or wraith

[lavish grove]

Same

[narrow rover]

lemme hear your prio char’s

[whole moon]

I should put Mina and Victor to two

My 0s are Wraith n Graves…

[narrow rover]

graves players…

i’ve only met bad graves players

release me

not bad like bad at the game, bad like evil

if I get slurred at, it’s a graves player

[vast sandal]

Usually my queue is (oh I wanna play this guy rn) at 2, Doorman Calico Wraith Haze and Geist at 1, Ginnis Vyper Paradox at 0

[lavish grove]

I’ve got Victor, Billy, Silver and Apollo at 2 consistently and Abrams, M&K, Venator and Pocket at 1

Though I’m really trying to get good enough at pocket they move to the 2 group

[finite patrol]

move them to 2 and get good faster :3

[narrow rover]

my 2’s are Wraith, Yamato, Haze, and Venator. my 1’s are seven, infernus, and grey talon. my 0’s are drifter and sinclair

might put apollo, vin, or drifter on my 2

[lavish grove]

Problem is I also like winning and my awful pocket is not a good way to win

[vast sandal]

My type is characters with ig’nant ass laning pokes

[narrow rover]

Thoughts on the state of vindicata rn?

[vast sandal]

I’ve forbidden myself from becoming a CSGO player

[lavish grove]

Good

I’m bad at her

But good

[narrow rover]

likewise

[finite patrol]

she can counterspell during flight now right

thats kinda hella

[narrow rover]

that’s fucking hilarious

i’m picking up vindicata

[maiden ledge]

played victor

yeah if the enemy doesnt stop you from farming you just stop dying

[agile rune]

one of my favourite laning partners

[lavish grove]

It’s awesome

[maiden ledge]

i ran into enemy spawn and harassed them and exploded while they were shopping and respawning

like you just dont die

[lavish grove]

Eventually you get strong enough that you can also steal their jungle for free

[maiden ledge]

you can be incredibly stupid once your 1 is t3

[lavish grove]

I’ve stolen hundreds of enemy double sinners

They’re free

[vast sandal]

My opinion on Victor is luggage cart

[lavish grove]

You can just take them

[maiden ledge]

oh look an enemy doing sinners, mine now

[vast sandal]

Get your weird corpse stink out of here

[maiden ledge]

we had the doorman so they were kinda just fucked

[lavish grove]

It’s called aura bruh

[maiden ledge]

it's called aura bruh

and such

[vast sandal]

You smell so strongly we’re getting complaints from other guests

[maiden ledge]

yeah theyre called obituaries

i got mine right here

[narrow rover]

I was gonna make a Baroness joke but

bro got me beat

[agile rune]

I have no desire to play here but billy and drifter both occupy the opponent up close so she can noscope away

[maiden ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/wolverine-wolverine-marvel-wolverine-marvel-rivals-marvel-rivals-logan-gif-6788939977283249851

[agile rune]

put them in the montage

[maiden ledge]

playing victor feels like this all the damn time

it's great

[vast sandal]

Seriously though when I play Doorman, Victor and his boystink are priority one for going in the closet

[maiden ledge]

no yeah thats prio 1

victor baroness. then mo and krill stun. then doorman refresher

[lavish grove]

It’s why I rush stamina mastery if there’s an enemy doorman

[agile rune]

my third is usually fern, who does not combo as well with vindicta which is fine

[maiden ledge]

then mo and krill refresher

[lavish grove]

I refuse to be caught out

[maiden ledge]

then all the hexes

knockdown

kill that guy

[vast sandal]

I’ll bridge a gap between realities, to the fucking shower with you

Life or bath for Victor?

[maiden ledge]

too bad whenever i put up my roster 90% of the time it goes to mcginnis

[vast sandal]

That’s why Paradox had to go down the priority queue

[lavish grove]

Life!

[vast sandal]

No one plays the funny Scottish woman

[agile rune]

I know what characters I like which is usually decided by vibes not mechanics, then I judge all other characters by how well I like laning with them

[maiden ledge]

it's true

i had a rem as a laning partner for victor

safe to say we got really annoying

[agile rune]

I don't ban any characters, these hands are rated e for everyone

[maiden ledge]

i ban abrams because i dont like it when he punches me

[narrow rover]

realest answer ive ever seen

removing my mo and krill ban rn

[whole moon]

this is why ur the best reggie

[agile rune]

I wish my rank reflected this

[maiden ledge]

yeah..

[whole moon]

rank is nothing. deathmatching is forever

[maiden ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/mystery-dungeon-true-pokemon-true-true-so-true-eevee-true-gif-16872752716626910805

[lavish grove]

Chat, is hybrid pocket still viable?

I’ve been running a full spirit build with them and I don’t really enjoy it, back when I played them originally I loved hybrid pocket

[vestal trench]

How do you change your screen name on deadlock like do you have to change your entire steam name. Cuz I see some real weird ass specific names on here

[lavish grove]

I believe so yes

[finite patrol]

deadlock does have a lot of people playing it as their only mp game

[narrow rover]

yeah you have to change your entire steam display

I do it with my alt, i see people do it in dead by daylight

[glass flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[glass flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-finally-good-food-chef-gif-11616250

[vast sandal]

The only thing funnier than using Geist ult on someone who should know better running me down is letting my HP go low, sneaking off to the sidelines, and then jumpscaring a full health enemy and murdering them in an alley

[finite grotto]

I hate playing vs Geist as Lash

Just a target you can never really go on unless you know you can oneshot her or have a clean escape at the ready

[whole moon]

well okay i guess i won't play deadlock to chill after a bad day because i learned the bots can let me down.

bots, i did not have high expectations. but i hope ur rolls were as shit as mine cause u could not close any kills...

[vast sandal]

oh god yeah

some of the bots are not coded like others

when my friend group was first starting out we had this friendly Yamato bot that literally ran it down the lane and died 18 times without accomplishing anything

There’s a joke there about your average Arcanist-ELO pub players but the bots are generally pretty competent compared to specifically Yamato bot

[lavish shale]

Some of the bots are definitely much better than others

[sand dome]

Easy Viper bot has zero regard for her current HP total, the presence of lane minions, guardians, walkers, or entire enemy teams in my experience. She simply craves violence.

[finite grotto]

enhanced overflow and inhibitor is fucked up

[agile rune]

borderlands name

[jovial yacht]

Found the avarage victor gameplay

If only if i got games like that

Maybe i should buy leech since nobody seems to buy healbane or anti-heal it at alchemist 2

[agile rune]

exploit all available weakness

[narrow rover]

so it seems like victor is a hypercarry

I think ive found my next hero

[jovial yacht]

Apparently, Victor Gun isn't that bad

Espeically since when his ultimate is on cooldown, its actually stronger

[ivory reef]

Oh I just realized - I expect you and your partner have played enough at this point that you don't need a teaching game but if you do give me a poke

[frail jasper]

Ballistic Enhancement is a really good tool for this, imbued on Aura of Suffering so you just run at people with it on and get gigantic weapon damage bonus.

[narrow rover]

shut up (/playful), say you're being fr

say on goid right now

say on glorp bro, swear on the deep

[agile void]

The ult amp is there so you can go gun victor or hybrid

also, sentences

[narrow rover]

say on god

swear to the deep

[narrow rover]

that Bratty vampire could do whatever she wanted to me

[narrow rover]

NO WAY

ITS REAL

BY THE CUBE, ITS REAL

[agile void]

Im not saying that it will work

but spirit overflow/spellslinger plus ballistic is not bad on victor

[narrow rover]

Id probably go spirit anyways, but a gun vic game sounds awesome for the 1 time

yk?

gotta do it for the gram

[agile void]

part of the problem of gun victor is that if you want to do it you kind of get slotlocked

[narrow rover]

eugh, yeah that does suck...

[agile rune]

I do think victor's gun is pretty decent even building spirit, because of the ult interaction

[jovial yacht]

I mean Recharging rush, Spirit Overflow and Spellslinger ain't bad

[agile rune]

that too

[jovial yacht]

If you go with leech and infuser you ain't going down

[narrow rover]

it hits a point that like, even with healcut you just ain’t going down

[agile rune]

even at base his gun shoots pretty fast, if you wanna apply status

[jovial yacht]

Off course this is assuming nobody counterbuys which you should always assume people would until they don't

[narrow rover]

add vampiric burst to all of your shit and you’re insane

[narrow rover]

in low elo, assume the opposite

[jovial yacht]

Idk if arcanist is low enough

[narrow rover]

your sentence is correct, i’m just trolling

seeker lobbies becomes a slugfest of me vs the other hypercarry

it’s crazy

I wanna get back to archon

[jovial yacht]

how the hell did you drop from archon to seeker

[agile rune]

it must be nice to be able to build hybrid, so when folks start to counter buy you can pivot

[narrow rover]

main’s archon, alt’s seeker

[jovial yacht]

ah ok

[narrow rover]

tl;dr, my main is banned because of irl responsibilities pulling me away from too many games

I get afk penalties

and my alt is already low because my friends weren’t uh…weren’t very good

[agile rune]

isn't the ban up on like monday

[narrow rover]

so I hung out with them in pisslow

[narrow rover]

it is yeah

[agile rune]

nice

[narrow rover]

i’m hoping I can get my alt to arcanist at least

[narrow rover]

anybody got a good lifesteal/sustain victor build?

my whole goal is to be an unkillable demon, dmg is secondary to being a pest

[vital knoll]

Heresy for life steal

Zzerial for pure tank

Let me get IDs

[narrow rover]

drain tank or spirit lifesteal ting is ideal

I changed my mind on pest play

[vital knoll]

375673

Heresy

397539 Zzerial

Zerials build relies more on having massive HP

If you're using heresy's build, consider skipping expansion for ballistic enchant

[agile void]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1rtudkp/secret_shaolin_monk_sliding_shiv_build/

[vital knoll]

Also buy witchmail basically every game, it only affects your 2/4 so you can sometimes just spam jumpstart with no cooldown

If you're into heavy Regen reduction, you're gonna need dispel magic and divine barrier and shit

Vs pocket you need barrier immediately after infuser/Colossus

[narrow rover]

Leif had/has a video on yt about this

[narrow rover]

Witchmail my beloved

ty for the info 💜💜

[lavish grove]

Chat, do we know Haze’s wish?

[agile void]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1ru7i5e/deadlock_tierlist_i_made_solely_based_on_how_much/

[agile void]

will probably be a point of contention

most likely she is getting a wish for the OSIC, but she could also use it for her own motives

[lavish grove]

Ah damn, we don’t know for sure?

Damn

[maiden ledge]

iirc it has like. actual scaling so it is viable

might try venator because every venator I've faced we lost because of he had a 20-40K individual soul lead and i wanna know why

[lavish grove]

Victor gun to me more feels bad due to opportunity cost imo

Because spirit Victor is so good rn

[maiden ledge]

never faced off against him in lane, never interacted with him in the first 20 minutes even when im stealing their side of jungle or sinners

he pops into base with a soul lead and ends

[maiden ledge]

iirc the investment for Victor gun is lik

e

30-40 minutes in

when your 3 is already doing enough work

like uhh

[lavish grove]

Ohhh

I was imagining pure gun Victor

[maiden ledge]

Life/Spirit Hybrid

Then past the hypercarry shenanigans you do a balance build of all three

since normally

[lavish grove]

I see

[maiden ledge]

and i wanna put emphasis on normally

people learn to BTFO if they even hear a victir

victor

so you want to either gun them down or use it to get them in a position for the aura of suffering

[narrow rover]

no we dont, but the patrons try to tempt haze into something of a different life, maybe signaling that deep down, haze regrets her OSIC/sandman life

[lavish grove]

I mean she is an assassin for the government

Even if she believes in the cause

I can’t imagine it’s a very fun life

[narrow rover]

that has neither been confirmed nor denied (by the osic, lore joke)

[lavish grove]

Lol

The OSIC’s official position is “What’s the OSIC?”

[final osprey]

She has fun, she plays the cello

[lavish grove]

That’s true!

[narrow rover]

I love haze's and rem's relationship

peep the wiki for it

[lavish grove]

It’s really cute yah

[vital knoll]

The other option is going for the 4.8k early to help with farming since Victors biggest spikes are his level 3 upgrades on jumpstart and pain battery, and getting the 4.8k in gun early with like kdash + cultist sac gives you a little more oomph to take t3 camps sooner and contribute slightly more in fights

[maiden ledge]

ohh i didnt know that

[vital knoll]

And then just not touching gun again until the rest of your core is online and that's like 30-40k

Yeah it's not like... 100% meta

It's kinda just an option

But a late game frenzy on Victor is always pretty good

[agile void]

the main problem is the ammo/reload

if it wasnt so long/victor had slots to spare, it would have more play

[merry verge]

Also increasing the total amount of Victors ingame, a crime most villainous

[vital knoll]

Yeah, that's why spellslinger ends up being pretty core if you do go heavy gun

But the 4.8k gun for farming has felt pretty good tbh, kdash cultist isn't too much investment and clearing camps faster is always good

I haven't played enough to have a strong opinion of getting it vs not though

[agile void]

isnt it actually fleetfoot + cultist actually?

fleetfoot helps mostly because it gives you no slowdown while in combat

[vital knoll]

Kdash is the better option for farming

[vital knoll]

The extra stam helps a lot

[agile void]

And he kinda needs the speed

[vital knoll]

Plus I'm going warp stone for in combat anyway and my gun isn't really for shooting people as much as it is for shooting creeps

[agile void]

main reason a third of your items end up being just mobility tools

[vital knoll]

I think warp stone is crazy super core in any victor build tbh

[agile void]

actually

how good is surge of power?

[vital knoll]

I've tried it before on jumpstart

I think it's kinda in the luxury bin with tempo

If you've got spare souls and slots it's nice but usually you have neither

Comparing to rapid recharge or warp stone I'd definitely prefer those two over surge

Tempo is 4.8k for basically just the move speed buff I think it's super duper bait

[agile void]

Actually isnt blood tribute also good?

damage done to you is something you want if you want to trigger pain battery

and all the stats you get from it are arguably nice on vic

also weighted shots, since it builds a slow on distance

[vital knoll]

Definitely not weighted shots

Move speed penalty

Blood sacrifice I could see tbh

[final osprey]

Victor needs his speeeeeeeed

[agile void]

its just .5 though

you could also just keep it in slowing bullets

[merry verge]

Doesn't constantly Battery-ing give Vic enough speed lategame

[vital knoll]

Victor pretty much always has issues being kited

He's so close range that he needs to be able to close gaps consistently and solid players will try to silence him and nuke him

[agile void]

you could just grab slowing bullets for the 4.8k spike and try to use it as a gap closer

[vital knoll]

The biggest thing I'm hesitant about w/ slowing bullets is that you're committing a third (fourth?) slot to it

Monster rounds kdash/fleet and then 2400 more for 4.8k

I think you never skip monster rounds ever and kdash/fleet are both minimum cost mobility options that help with getting from camp to camp in a meaningful way

[agile void]

there is also the cultist bonuses

[vital knoll]

Yeah

Like cultist isn't amazing but it is slot efficient which is relevant

If you're struggling to open slots, it's very easy to fill them with monster rounds, improved spirit, healing booster, rapid recharge, kdash/fleet, mystic vuln, etc

[agile void]

I mostly mention blood tribute because its one of the biggest debuf res

and victor is always prone to getting silenced or so, less time he is affected by these, the better

[vital knoll]

The other thing to keep in mind there is that you're always going to prefer purges to resistanced

If I'm getting silenced I'm going Dispel Magic and Divine Barrier

[agile void]

would you pick divine? and not make someone else pick it?

[vital knoll]

Depends

[warm sonnet]

Why not both?

[vital knoll]

Depends on if you can trust your team

Also that

[merry verge]

Divine Barrier is also just really good

[warm sonnet]

More Divine = Closer to god = Free rejuv

[agile void]

also eshift got buffed

[vital knoll]

If there's a pocket in the game I don't trust anyone else to immediately slam the divine barrier button on me when I hear that frog croak

That's also true I'm very much getting eshift

[merry verge]

Eshift I struggle to work with

[vital knoll]

If you're getting cursed you go unstop

[vital knoll]

Eshift lets you dodge burst, dodge big ultis with windup like Lash, or just say "time out I need three seconds to get the healing out of my jumpstart while I'm still auraing you"

It also lets you float so you can try to do mind game things with it where you fake jumping down a hole

At absolute worst eshift is an oh shit button in fights

Maybe you'll die immediately afterwards but you're still stinkin em for the meantime

[late hare]

making a note to follow up on this

[jovial yacht]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/s/7vJLLILo7u

[vast sandal]

word on the street is Calico does sloppy work

[jovial yacht]

Fucking love that deadlock lore is interconnected by also not that interconnected

Has anybody done a social web of deadlock so far?

I think out of the entire cast of someone being familar with someone. I think the few that aren't connected are actually the blackmoore kids. Graves and apollo

Funny enough, just knowing infernus is enough to connect a lot of people. Infernus knows a lot of people

[vivid nimbus]

Dynamo is/was Arin’s godfather

[vast sandal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1ru0npo/archmother_under_attack/

[vast sandal]

Infernus's job is being well-connected

another guy who knows a lot of people for weird reasons: Drifter

[vivid nimbus]

They do share at least one class and know each other

[vast sandal]

Drifter just kinda knows people as long as those people are weird and creepy or Baxter Society members

[jovial yacht]

They're lab mates, but i mean like, does graves and apollo know anybody else? I don't think so

[vivid nimbus]

Oh, nope

[jovial yacht]

Also drifter has made a fan out of vyper

[vast sandal]

Vyper is weird and creepy.

[lavish grove]

Benefits of working at apparently the most popular failing bar in all of New York

[jovial yacht]

Makes you wonder why its failing

[vast sandal]

tbf very popular restaurants can be failing not because they don't get enough custom

[vivid nimbus]

Well, Graves knows some about Mina, who graduated from Blackmore

[vast sandal]

but because the custom doesn't add up against the costs

[jovial yacht]

Yeah that was being kicked out of hank's bar

But thats like school talk, they never met infernus until the ritual

[vast sandal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1ro54ax/she_tried_to_use_a_fake/

rem is allowed he needs to drink milk so he can grow up big n strong

"I'M BIIIIIG" when he uses Colossus is so good

[lavish grove]

Also, Apollo doesn’t know them but Haze and Abrams both know him because he’s royalty

[jovial yacht]

Wait does abrams have dialouge on apollo?

[narrow rover]

woah woah woah

[severe loom]

He even speaks ixian with him in an intro, I think

[jovial yacht]

Yeah apollo is quite the political figure to be well known

Makes you wonder what the current state of american politics are in deadlock

[vast sandal]

so who's invited to the batcase wedding

other than Geist, who is automatically invited to everything because she is Lady Geist

[severe loom]

Pretty different, there's 52 states and Hawai'i is still independent I'm p sure

[narrow rover]

Haze dislikes Apollo fighting due to the potential international outrage or something to that effect

[jovial yacht]

Who is president back then at the time, when does deadlock take place again?

[lavish grove]

Dynamo and Kelvin

Probably seven as well since he was just Kelvin’s bestie and boyfriend before everything

Actually Kelvin was probably dead by then…

[vast sandal]

Seven is not invited that man is being hunted by federal agents

[vivid nimbus]

Dynamo definitely. McGinnis probably

[jovial yacht]

That is assuming the wedding was before all that went down eith kelvin and seven

Mcginnis is a good one too

[lavish grove]

Yah I just realized Kelvin probably died a while ago

[vast sandal]

yeah Kelvin died years back

and then just kinda appeared alive because ???

magic rock

[jovial yacht]

Who else is connected to fairfax? It should be quite a few people no?

[vast sandal]

nnnot really

[lavish grove]

Calico was invited just… for other reasons

[vast sandal]

I can't believe Calico fucked up the job of her lifetime

[jovial yacht]

Wrecker

[vivid nimbus]

I’m gonna headcanon that Callico’s client actually moved up their own schedule to before the wedding after finding out who Arin was going to be married to

[vast sandal]

no wonder her lines are so brutal when she encounters enemy Pocket

"I see the spoiled brat"

[jovial yacht]

Wrecker could actually show up to batcase wedding, thats really funny to think about

[lavish grove]

She’s so salty

[vivid nimbus]

Was not invited as a guest but landed the security detail contract

[lavish grove]

Maximilian: “Arin, now that you’re of age I want you to introduce yourself to a special individual. Meet the insane monster we hired to kill civilians in Ixia.”

[warm sonnet]

"And this is Wrecker."

"A good friend of the family."

[lavish grove]

Wrecker is Max’s nephew

[warm sonnet]

McGuinness was scouted into Fairfax Industries by Wrecker

[jovial yacht]

"Get a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life" ~ wrecker

[lavish grove]

I also feel like vyper would show up to the wedding

She wouldn’t be invited

But she’s not gonna miss out on free food and family drama

[jovial yacht]

Thats why wrecker is there

To stop her

[lavish grove]

Vyper tries to sneak in only for a Boulder to get thrown at her

[vivid nimbus]

She doesn’t even know whose wedding it is, she just does to random rich people weddings

[maiden ledge]

the ol gorgon special [gets crushed by a boulder]

[lavish grove]

Exactly

[maiden ledge]

im lowk eeeevill

[warm sonnet]

It takes place somewhere idyllic outside of the city
She's just out there, probably in the middle of some smuggling run, when she sees the event going on. After stomping on the brakes hard as fuck, she slithers out of the truck and makes her everyone problems.

[jovial yacht]

Yeah, yeah, I'm the hidden king
Yeah, Yeah, do my fucking things
Yeah, yeah, do my bidding

[lavish grove]

Also part of me feels like wraith would be genuinely invited

She’s a mob boss yah but like, she’s a respectable mob boss

[vivid nimbus]

“How do you know there’ll be family drama?” “Oh there’s always family drama”

[lavish grove]

She’s practically a normal socialite with a gun

[vast sandal]

Wraith is probably tight with Fairfax

[jovial yacht]

She's there to host games for the rich folks

[vast sandal]

she buys her ammo from 'em, runs high stakes games for the rich

[lavish grove]

Yah

[warm sonnet]

I don't think she'd actually be invited to the venue, but get a friendly offer to provide the amenities.

[vast sandal]

nahh Wraith herself would get an invite but with a "hey don't bring a +1 and be on your best behaviour"

[warm sonnet]

"Yeah, we can't be seen with you. But we'll give you something almost quite as good."

[jovial yacht]

I'd think mo and krill will not be invited but they'll try to show up anyways

[vast sandal]

like, Billy's complaint about her is that she isn't a hardcore mob boss, she wants to be mayor and kiss babies in front of a crowd

[lavish grove]

Yah

She’s in his opinion, a poser

A paper gangster

[vast sandal]

Wraith is media-trained; Yamato is distinctly not

[vivid nimbus]

No no it’s the 40s, a lady always gets the option to bring an escort

[lavish grove]

She wants to bring Mo but him and Krill are a package deal so she can’t bring either

[vast sandal]

knowing Wraith

[warm sonnet]

Maurice is a better conversationalist

[vast sandal]

she'd bring Infernus as her +1 because it's good PR and it's also a point of leverage

[warm sonnet]

Ooooh he'd hate that

+10

[vast sandal]

everyone knows Infernus but Wraith really knows Infernus

they have a bit of faux-amiable exes energy

[vivid nimbus]

Or just one of her gangsters. But one who really knows how to behave and be sociable and looks good in a suit

[lavish grove]

The main thing with infernus is that I don’t think he’d ever accept wraith’s invite lol

[maiden ledge]

i should play infernus

[lavish grove]

His #1 priority with her is stay the fuck away

[jovial yacht]

Tbh, wraith seems like she runs a tight operation, considering infernus. I'd think a lot of her gangster are prim and proper

[vast sandal]

I mean, he wouldn't WANT to

but Wraith would have some silver-tongued bullshit about how this is his in to save Hank's

rubbing elbows with the rich and famous, talking to people who can pull the bar out of financial ruin, etc.

[jovial yacht]

Worst thing is that infernus seems to enjoy being a pyromaniac

[vivid nimbus]

Infernus not getting a guest invite but specifically requested to tend bar

[jovial yacht]

He always talk about it being something he might slip back to doing

[lavish grove]

That’s fair yah

[jovial yacht]

Do you think pocket is also a alumni from blackmoore?

[vivid nimbus]

I think they probably are

[jovial yacht]

Batcase school romance

Cuz we know mina is definitely one

[lavish grove]

Almost certainly imo

[jovial yacht]

And if pocket is also an alumni, they definitely met mina

[lavish grove]

Blackmoore seems like the prep school in this universe

[jovial yacht]

Especially rich kids

Cuz we so know another school, and thats the school that dynamo works at

[vast sandal]

you don't get too many big richie rich prep schools in one area

[jovial yacht]

And also where ivy's sister studies in

[lavish grove]

He works at a University though

Blackmoore is a highschool

[warm sonnet]

Dynamo works at Colombia

[lavish grove]

Yah

[jovial yacht]

Yeah he does, which is different from blackmoore

[lavish grove]

Dynamo is Unfathomably overqualified even for a high end highschool like Blackmoore

[vast sandal]

Dynamo is a physics prof, he's overqualified for his actual position too

[lavish grove]

Probably

[vast sandal]

or, well

definitionally most uni profs are overqualified for most of the classes they teach, that's kind of the point

[lavish grove]

Yah true

[vast sandal]

fucking

Infernus knows Geist personally, she's a Jezebel's patron

that's hilarious

who doesn't this guy know

[lavish grove]

It’s genuinely crazy Geist goes to jezebel’s tbh

What is this bar?

[vast sandal]

it is apparently a fancy bar

at least according to McGinnis

[lavish grove]

Why does their clientele range so much?

Doesn’t silver and Venator both talk about going there though?

[late hare]

only Silver does specifically

Silver knows Fern, Ven's an out of towner

[vast sandal]

the way I see it Infernus knows a bunch of socialites because he tends a fancy-ass well-known downtown Manhattan bar, also he knows an entirely different set of people through his job description and his personal social circle

[late hare]

I don't imagine Jezebel's to be super fancy for one thing. I can think of a few cocktail bars / speakeasies I've been to personally that can kinda span the range

[twilit roost]

Infernus runs the one tavern ttrpg parties meet up at obviously

[warm sonnet]

It's not super fancy, but it's well known for being The Place

[late hare]

that said, it's also distinctly possible that Geist and Silver being at the same bar says much more about Silver's money management skills than anything

[jovial yacht]

From how many cast members go there, it might as well be

[jovial yacht]

That is also true, Silver feels so finacially irresponsible that she might send a paycheck of catching someone like seven on a trip to jezebel

[vast sandal]

oh also he hits on specifically Holliday and god damn it Infernus

don't hit on Holliday

[narrow rover]

infernus used to be a gangster, then quit the life to be a bartender no!

*?

so he’s probably still got gang ties if I’m remembering correctly

on top of his bartending stuff

he probably gets all sorts of characters at his place

[vast sandal]

it's unclear what he was before he became a bartender other than that he knows Wraith personally and that he used to set a lot of things on fire and killed several people

so almost certainly a mobster

[narrow rover]

defo something in that area yeah

if he’s not a mobster, I mean

[jovial yacht]

Infernus is probably a really good assassin, his "gun" is his own innate ability and its not something that can be traced by normal means

You just puff up into flames and die, like in deadlock

What no dispel magic does when fighting infernus

[vast sandal]

Infernus's pyromancy seems to be at least partly the work of some magic tattoos on his hand

[narrow rover]

no wards? 🥺

anyways

pause, does unstoppable work against his DoT debuff?

or whatever that thing that makes you immune to debuffs is

[narrow rover]

ooo, that’s juicy

[narrow rover]

^^cuz I was thinking, dispel magic paired with that would be crazy, if dispel doesn’t build into whatever item i’m thinking of

[jovial yacht]

Unstoppable makes you immune to movement debuffs, it does reduce the duration of certain abilities

[narrow rover]

cwinge

[lavish grove]

From how Wraith talks to and about him, he was probably her go to guy whenever people needed to die tbh

[narrow rover]

but ty

[narrow rover]

plot twist: bro is innocent, I was with him during all of those events

we were drinking

[lavish grove]

And are you willing to act as a witness to corroborate this alibi?

[narrow rover]

I am. And I will swear under oath too

the OSIC would like to have a word with you…

[lavish grove]

God yah committing perjury must be so much harder in this world

Where the us government has access to fucking mind readers and dream assassins

[tidal elm]

"you're honor you weren't even there"
actually, I was

[narrow rover]

i’ll just stop thinking

and I won’t sleep

[narrow rover]

LMFAOOO me when the gaslighting so good that the judge has to get involved

[whole moon]

Sandman Division: ”If you awake you fake.”

[narrow rover]

Also the Sandman Division: “we don’t technically exist, according to the OSIC”

well, they never confirmed or denied it, and I think they’ll keep it that way

[ivory reef]

https://youtu.be/kWWwy-vipJU truly excellent encyclopedia with lots of choreographed examples

[tidal elm]

my favourite deadlock related thing atm is imaging Drifter togheter with the Sinners vampires, just singing Rocky Road to Dublin

[lavish grove]

Are there any like, Cajun folk songs?

I know the answer is almost certainly yes

But I don’t know any

[tidal elm]

the only one I know of is La Danse de Mardi Gras

I 100% expected Drifter to know this one tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1E9OyI_r2g

[whole moon]

oh this will help also

hiiii @ivory reef hiiiii when my gf and i are ready for our first Real Match and not bots we’ll come see ya~!

rn we’re very much playing arcade modes to learn our buttons and general strategies

[vivid nimbus]

My Drifter headcanon is that he's not born in Louisiana, rather he's so old he's from Acadia from before it was Nova Scotia

[lavish grove]

Oh that’s probably true actually

[tidal elm]

oh he's definetly not born there, but I like to thing he likes it down there so he assimilated

you know, like the Sinners vampires

[lavish grove]

He refers to New York as New Amsterdam

[whole moon]

He’d HAVE TO BE given how old he is why tf he call it New Amsterdam

[ivory reef]

Ok!

[whole moon]

Man was in L’Acadie when the British did an ethnic cleansing

[lavish grove]

No wait yah not Hampshire

[whole moon]

what im saying is that i think drifter is allowed to do what he wants

[vivid nimbus]

Some people do call it New Amsterdam for other reasons, but yeah

[lavish grove]

The only real question is did he come from Europe or was born in the americas and turned into a vampire there

[vivid nimbus]

Ma'am, he is eating people

[lavish grove]

He’s hungry!

[tidal elm]

the question is, pulling from Masquerade technicals here, is he a First generation vampire or better yet. Who turned him

[whole moon]

If he’s Acadian he’d either be a crook the French government married to a prostitute and shipped to the new world OR the child of such in the new world- does he speak any actual French?

[tidal elm]

cause it would be cool to see if there was even a before for him

[tidal elm]

nop but that wouldn't mean much, if you're alive for so long you might adapt languages and not use your og one

[whole moon]

that’s fair i just wonder

[lavish grove]

I feel like he calls someone mademoiselle but I could be misremembering

[whole moon]

bc idk if ur gonna go actually dig up Cajun French

[lavish grove]

He knows Pachelbel but like, he’s also a super famous composer so I can’t say that he was there for him back in the day

[vivid nimbus]

We know Lady Geist knows French (but I think modern European French), while she and Drifter only talk in English to each other

[whole moon]

Might be? The Patrons mention other vampires having hundreds of years on her so we must assume

[vast sandal]

average francophone talking to a native English speaker who knows French tbh

[tidal elm]

wiki implies he may be associated with 17th century Acadeian French immigrants

[lavish grove]

Yah vampires in this world definitely work on “immortal until killed or starved” rules

[tidal elm]

so he def would know french, just, not using it since everyone speaks english

[final osprey]

That's largely because that's where Cajun culture came from and he mentions new Amsterdam.

I think 300 years is enough time to forget French

[vivid nimbus]

TBH that's a guess as much as mine, look at the source

[whole moon]

true

[final osprey]

People forget their home languages in less time, and that's whilst like actually talking to people.
I can't imagine drifters got up to much conversation whilst being a murder hobo

[whole moon]

i forgot most of mine

[tidal elm]

yea definetely ,like taking a good reference for this, Sinners vampires are Irish but speak perfect american

[vivid nimbus]

I do like the idea, but even the New Amsterdam line isn't conclusive to him being old

[tidal elm]

we know he's at least familiar with Doc Holliday, which puts him solidely in the 19th century
so at least 200

[final osprey]

Maybe we're all wrong, maybe he's only like 100 and a Dutch nationalist

[vivid nimbus]

Drifter's line says "the elders of New Amsterdam", which could alternatively indicate that the elders still call themselves that, or that he's using it rhetorically to emphasize how old-fashioned they are

[lavish grove]

He became Cajun for the larp

[tidal elm]

or elders as in a vampire cast system, so the first gen vampires

we definitely need more vampire heroes

[lavish grove]

I want like, a Nosferatu type

[tidal elm]

a straight up creature

[lavish grove]

Like Mina and Drifter, far to pretty

I want a thing

Rising from the coffin

[final osprey]

I thinks 2 is enough. Lots of concepts out there to get to.
3 if you count the theory of Shiv being some kind of vampire type thing

[vivid nimbus]

But I also like Drifer being old. I'm just being honest and not assuming it's strong evidence for him being old

[tidal elm]

you want the Witcher type vampires

[late hare]

throw a little more dirt on Drifter tbh

[whole moon]

Give Me Those Feratu

[lavish grove]

A proper monstrous character is definitely something I want though

The closest we have is vyper

[tidal elm]

gimme a straight up blorb of teeth and claws

[lavish grove]

And even then she’s very unfinished but also clearly still meant to be like, a person

She’s got a gun and knives

She’s using tools

[tidal elm]

also biped

[lavish grove]

It’s why I want wrecker so much

[lavish grove]

Yah but hopefully that’ll change

[warm sonnet]

I am a continued proponent for Broodmother Deadlock

Just a whole-ass spider that doesn't look at all like a human

With a sawed-off

[final osprey]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/s/m8JjPcFZzc

Could this be the solution?

[lavish grove]

My like, ideal wrecker design is just a weird fucking monster who just happens to have some guns and armor grafted onto and in him

With how he is supposed to still be a mercenary

[lavish grove]

Yes

[merry verge]

Love when a dog is a square

[final osprey]

A mercenary? Why that's ridiculous, mercenaries are illegal under international law.
He's a member of a PMC, an entirely different thing which just so happens to act exactly the same as a mercenary group.

[lavish grove]

Oh shit of course I’m sorry

I’ll never use such wording again

Glory to Fairfax industries

We should get Fairfax’s lawyer as a character

They’re summoning the patrons to make all the suits against the company go away

[somber creek]

Its failing due to regulations and indictments with the Alchemy Beureau

[lavish grove]

Wait really?

[somber creek]

Ya

[lavish grove]

Huh

[somber creek]

Infernus says it in multiple conversations and I believe its in his lore

[tidal elm]

I would love heroes like they did back in HotS, gone but not forgotten
there were some that worked by never leaving the base, something that could not work here cause of the movement based gameplay but still, you get what I mean

[lavish grove]

What the fuck are they putting in those cocktails?

[somber creek]

Potions

[tidal elm]

Infernus, give me your strongest potions
My potions are too strong for you traveller

[vivid nimbus]

And also, wormwood

[narrow rover]

they aren’t the exact same, one has more paperwork!

[merry verge]

I'm vaguely tempted by Pocket but worry they fall into sort of Doing The One Combo Over An' Over

[astral lava]

they have a LOT of decisions to make

but the "ideal" is majestic leap in -> coat -> ult -> suitcase explode -> coat out

...of course there are a lot of other things you may want to use any of those for

[narrow rover]

yeah pocket is super technical, I dont think they could ever fall into the "same combo" niche

given

[merry verge]

honestly it's kind of a feeling i run into in too many characters

Doorman spirit range has me with a lot of 'well, i guess i take them under walker again'

[glass flicker]

Slork

[still swan]

Keep slorking

[glass flicker]

Mina is dating Slork

Arin is secretly very very jealous

Tokamak was also at the wedding

[narrow rover]

gun chars

that’s is all

[merry verge]

none of them really grab me save Venator

maybe new Wraith

[narrow rover]

mages are usually locked into a “meta rotation” or something of the sort

it’s unavoidable

save for someone like sinclair, as he can steal ults

[narrow rover]

Haze? Vyper maybe?

warden gun? gunfernus?

none of em?

surely you haven’t tried gun viscous yet

concerns of the deep? i’m blastin

[merry verge]

Viscous is beyond my mortal mind, I leave them to the punchers

I'm still learning Regular Mobility

[narrow rover]

viscous players on their way to fuck up my sleep knife to silence headshot burst combo

by “helping”

[narrow rover]

word?

so you’re new new eh?

[merry verge]

oh no there's just a lot of it

[narrow rover]

oh fair

yeah you got dash jumping

all these goofy wall bounces

[merry verge]

the fuckin corner boosts and whatnot

[narrow rover]

etc

[narrow rover]

yeah fr

[merry verge]

i'm content if i can get on a roof with one stamina i don't need to like fly

'just melee and jump at the same frame you touch the corner and-' okay

[narrow rover]

lotta movement tech

[finite grotto]

https://youtube.com/shorts/pJp9h3ffLnQ?is=VgHfnfoMLzw0zczP

[narrow rover]

NEW TECH

[vast sandal]

u/NicoObcisio

[whole moon]

i love u victor i love getting big and strong and pressing 2 every 6 seconds

not dying is hard then easy and also apollo keeps bullying me ; w;

[narrow rover]

if you can silence apollo, you can take his butt with ease

source: trust

[whole moon]

he's mostly being very a problem at just game start where he has a dash and i have Pain Battery, Sometimes

[narrow rover]

source pt2: im the bully apollo and getting silenced is agony

[whole moon]

i know i should be ignoring him to farm

but he keep fuckin killin granpa

[narrow rover]

gotta get that get back eh?

[whole moon]

i must avenge grandpa

[narrow rover]

The Hidden King is glad to have you on his team

[whole moon]

his health is low i can take him <is going to get combo'd to death with dashstabs

mostly its a thought of evening it out bc it was victor & gray talon vs apollo & abrhams

[narrow rover]

I wanna play more apollo but sometimes I dont wanna be doing all that dashing 😭

gt my goat

[whole moon]

granpa fuckin fragile

[narrow rover]

true but a spirit build with his 1

mmmmMMMMmmm

[whole moon]

annoyed at abrhams for having a stickier aura than me but that's okay he does melt when i press 1

[narrow rover]

Abrams when I press my F key

[finite grotto]

Silence? You just need slowing hex 😌

[finite patrol]

slowing hex silences

[finite grotto]

Oh true duh

Reading comprehension

[vast sandal]

I love hitting em with Silence, Fools, Geist Grenade

[whole moon]

i have now tested mcginnis with the bots

mcginnis really can just put the whole team on her back huh

[vast sandal]

Sorta

McG doesn’t do a lot of carrying in terms of damage but she’s infamous for being a lane bully and steamrolling objectives

[whole moon]

yah that's a good way to say it bc

"no im not giving up this objective" seems to be the whole plan

[rich grove]

well that most recent update did kinda make her a damage monster for a bit

[vast sandal]

She bulldozes guardians, walkers, bee gees, shrines, patrons,

Really good at warding off urn runs

And winning defensive engagements like the eternal blue lane walker fight

[maiden ledge]

my experience with mcginnis (playing her) is that if you see her in a team fight you give up

[vast sandal]

well

[whole moon]

everyone else in this teamfight sure seems distracted what if i just cleared the wave and spammed turrets

[vast sandal]

the thing that beats McG is backing off

[maiden ledge]

yeah

you give up

[vast sandal]

she can only be in once place at a time and has a hell of a time relocating so if she decides to defend yellow you just split and green falls over

[maiden ledge]

during downtime and deaths i put a turret at the front of each lane and then fuck off to do whatever

[vast sandal]

in teamfights you just back up from where McG's turret nest is and fight somewhere else

she can't really make you fight in the happy fun zone

[vivid nimbus]

On the flip side I've had McGinnis games where I'm setting up shop on their front door and creep into their base

[maiden ledge]

yeah

if you look away for a second she just eats objectives and if you back off my normal strat is to wall you off and then take objective and leave

[vast sandal]

yeah if McG is in your face it's bad

because you don't have anywhere to back off to

[maiden ledge]

i think i really shine with mcg when im actually trying to predict where the next team fight is

[whole moon]

i was playing brawl and there were matches where i was the only one alive holding the center

[maiden ledge]

because i go rapid recharges, set up a killbox for when the enemy frontliners eventually overextends, and then they get slowed into oblivion because i have like mystic slow, suppressor, etc.

i havent actually tried her in brawl

[maiden ledge]

and im not even there (unless it's a big fight) im pushing the other lanes

[somber creek]

She does kinda fall off later in brawl

Due to how swingy positioning gets

Once the guardians go down

[whole moon]

this is fair but i had guns on my side

guns and healing tempo

[maiden ledge]

i had a game where uhhh

i bought only gun and spirit, lasted me until 30-35 minutes with a few deaths in the later half of that

because the counter to mcg is backing off so they back off and i live

and then once we started getting claustrophobic i bought leech and siphon and stuff and then it swung back into wiping teamfights

since the turrets i dont need for kill potential i just need to keep putting them down while theyre trying to stop us from ending the game

[lavish grove]

Chat, who would y’all say are the like, faces of deadlock rn?

Because imo it’s Abrams, Haze and Pocket

[maiden ledge]

abrahms

haze is another

infernus is someone i see a lot

pocket too

i think people like the bratty vampire a lot too