#Deadlock

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rich grove
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she has one combo and you just beat it into the ground until you die or the enemy does

vast sandal
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Paradox's carbine is an initiate tool that lets you catch people with their pants down and then set up her kit on them, or stop enemies in their tracks if they're running you or an ally down, or prevent enemies from escaping teamfights

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her grenade kinda does everything - it punishes grouping, clears waves, digs enemies out of cover positions and sets up brutal carbine > 5x headshot damage, and it absolutely demolishes buildings

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her wall is interesting in that the threat of wall represents a lot of its power, no one wants to walk through a Paradox wall on purpose and even though it only slows projectiles down, that slowdown gives you a lot of leeway to dodge stuff you normally would get nailed by so using it to clog a chokepoint lets you control the flow of battle a lot both in lanes and in teamfights

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plus it's great at stopping people from chasing you or from getting away from fights again, this time in the context of boxing people in and forcing them to choose between 10% of their HP or whatever Vyper's going to do to them if they don't run

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but the real beauty of all of this stuff is that you have swap, and everything Paradox does interacts with the rest of her kit and with her ult beautifully

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now that you can punish peoples' positioning and control the flow of battle with grenade and wall, you also have ult to force the problem and drag someone into a kill box

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you can make them split by throwing a grenade into their group, then identify the weak link and swap them into your team while the enemy's pants are down scrambling from a big damage circle they know better than to sit in

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Kinetic Carbine makes a running target a cinch to lock with your ult and drag into a deadly ambush

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and then the most obvious self-interaction in her kit is throwing up a wall to swap someone through to silence them and yoink their HP with

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Paradox's kit looks like goodstuff if you don't play her a lot, but the trick is that all her goodstuff plays into itself and reinforces her gimmick of being able to manipulate the positioning of heroes and the flow of movement in fights in order to turn fair fights into very unfair ones

finite patrol
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shoot them in the head to line up swap
drop a wall to swap them thru
swap them
throw nade while u swap
beat their ass while theyre slowed silenced and taking a ton of extra damage from you
schmovement your ass outta there

vast sandal
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doing The Paradox Combo right is a big part of doing paradox stuff but you also gotta remember that your kit isn't purely linear like that

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sometimes you want to do shit like Kinetic Carbine a Lash who's flying into the fight and swap him into death, sometimes your team is trying to back out of a fight they can't win so you throw your shield and your grenade behind it to create a barricade and then swap the Haze who's flanked your team out of your backline and retreat

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swaps can save your team's life just as effectively as they can kill an enemy carry

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dragging the Drifter who's on your poor defenseless Paige into the light is still using your ult well

rich grove
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its uptime is also high enough you can and should just chuck it on vibes, without worrying about blowing it

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if only to practice doing it

vast sandal
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Drag an ulting Infernus off your team, yoink the urn with ultimate style, use your Time Wall to intercept Celeste’s ult and give your team time to split up, Kinetic Carbine can stall ults that have to confirm targets like Lash or Rem and give your team the vital fraction of a second they need to escape, throw a Time Wall in front of ult Silver and dance back and forth until she dies from repeat procs, dump a pulse grenade in the enemy jungle camp while you’re pushed up and you can steal it while still focusing on poking them away

vivid nimbus
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I played a game as MnK and the Paradox swapped the enemy carry into my face and I went one braincell mode with my own ult

vast sandal
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Paradox can do a lot of stuff if you have the presence of mind

vivid nimbus
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"What's this Venator doing here? Well, he dies now"

rich grove
vast sandal
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Basically

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I play Paradox cuz she doesn’t do anything, she does everything

rich grove
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null rod...

vast sandal
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Null rod?

autumn field
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hmmm i think ill do a doorman game today

severe loom
vast sandal
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Ah, yeah

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You kinda just gotta be deranged and let the possibilities flow through your brain to squeeze the juice out of her kit imo

lavish grove
vast sandal
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None of her skills are defining features but all of them do some weird fucked up stuff and if you use em all correctly you’re gonna style all over your opponents

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Also she’s one of them heroes, like Doorman, where picking em is kind of implicitly a boast of your ability to maximize her kit (like how picking Haze is kind of boasting of your aiming skills to a degree) but also I’ve been complimented on my 9001IQ Paradox plays by opponents and the validation juice is very sweet

autumn field
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i accidentally imbued echo shard on door in street brawl 😭

severe loom
autumn field
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ok i just realized something nasty

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you can door cart someone into a air vent

vivid nimbus
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I wouldn't think that'd work

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Huh

autumn field
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i dont know if it works but its funny

hallow zenith
vivid nimbus
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Oh wait the blowy vents, not the tunnel vents

hallow zenith
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Fortunately it wasn't a street brawl so I could sell it and buy it back after I realised it but

somber creek
astral lava
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they should remove the tunnels not just because they're silly but because they add confusion with the air vents

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every time I play rem i fail to make any use of them at all bc I dont know where the hell they are or where they lead

autumn field
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wait i need to try something insane

frail jasper
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just finished an absolute ASS game where everyone lost their lanes horribly and every team fight was just an abysmal wombo combo

bleak thicket
autumn field
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trying paradox rn

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she is awfully fun

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hard asf to use tho

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@vast sandal

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i think you paradox ruight

vast sandal
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I be paradoxin'

autumn field
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this is the weirdest shit ever

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but like

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when you have 400 gun dps

vast sandal
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Stamina Mastery good

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what's Echo Shard imbued on

autumn field
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1

vast sandal
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good shit

autumn field
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400 timestop damage

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200 pulse damage

vast sandal
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yeah your Kinetic Carbine is gonna be kinda fucked up on this build

autumn field
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350 swap damage

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and 69% spirit res

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you dont complain

vast sandal
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Duration Extender also good

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tbh

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I think Refresher is lowkey ass on Paradox

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but it's Street Brawl so you do what you can with what you have

autumn field
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yeah i had no better options really

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also her gun is awful good

vast sandal
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yeah Paradox's gun is aggro as hell

autumn field
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yeah id love her if it werent for the fact that her kit requires coord (no team) and tons of skill

vast sandal
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my favorite thing about Paradox is how much you can cook if you're just constantly on the ball looking for opportunities to do Some Shit

autumn field
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refresher, imo, is just really fucking funny w/ vortex web

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because you can do some zany double wall zip zap time stop boom boom

rich grove
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slorp them through the wall

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slorp them through the wall again

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slorp them through two wall

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slorp them through two wall again

frail jasper
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tonight's series of games were just absolutely unfun

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those kinds of games where you're just losing all lane, then find out everyone is losing, then the entire next 30 minutes of the game are just more losing in a slow death

agile rune
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but not losing enough for the enemy to totally steamroll and rush the end of the game?

frail jasper
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no, but losing enough that the enemy totally steamrolls and also just plays it slow and steady

lavish shale
frail jasper
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all the factors of "enemy team is just outright better than you" and neither me nor anyone on my team can do anything meaningful about it

agile rune
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I'd rather they just get strong enough to end it

frail jasper
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It's never over until it's over, but damn if i can't read the writing on the wall

vernal parcel
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Been loving this image recently

agile rune
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bwuh

tidal elm
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Abrams to me is the DL counterpart of Leagues' Garen

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You can't kill him
Why the fuck does he do so much damage

agile rune
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shotgun

tidal elm
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Yea, and Garen would say
Big sword, so it checks out

errant sphinx
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Getting Celeste ult and landing it mid fight as Sinclair is a herculean task

agile rune
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but that's why they pay you the big bucks

tacit field
echo viper
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There's not too much to get with it I don't think; it's a typical "one is not like the others" joke with a deep cut reference, which doubly serves as being directed towards those who get it (assuming such a group exists, which isn't always the case).

agile rune
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there's a they can get it alright joke there

echo viper
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;p

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But yeah, it's I think similar to when some folk looked at Danger in Marvel Tōkon and went "white woman downtilt!".

agile rune
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oh that is a white woman normal

echo viper
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Case in point I suppose ;p.

agile rune
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orange what's your favourite deadlock character

short quiver
agile void
short quiver
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Guess they didn't think too hard about it

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Happens

echo viper
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Give me saves and the ability to punish dives and I'm happy.

agile rune
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I do not know dazzle

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on a search about dazzle there's no 1 to 1 comparison but I think Kelvin will do what you want, maybe

undone galleon
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define saves & punish dives

echo viper
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Admittedly Dazzle has been like at least three different heroes, so it's not an easy character to know.

Nevertheless the core defining trait here is a strong counter-initiation tool for saving allies and/or resetting fights, so at a glance probably something close to Viscous.

undone galleon
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oh the cube yea

agile rune
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literally never had a viscous in a game with me

echo viper
# undone galleon define saves & punish dives

Save meaning saving them from getting immediately killed, either through repositioning (Mari in Dota 2) or other means such as invulnerability (Dazzle or Shadow Demon in Dota 2).

Counter-initiation is the capacity to disrupt a fight which has already begun, or someone's attempt to initiate a fight, either to retreat or to gain an advantage. Examples of this in Dota 2 include Naga Siren with her song, or ironically enough Tidehunter. Dazzle achieves this is in large part through their save (Shallow Grave).

To punish dives is done by through some mean fucking someone over when they attempt to dive one of your allies. Examples of this include Counter-initiation, Saves, global teleports, crowd control effects, or in Dota 2 Treant Protectors living armour.

Basically I like anything which makes a calculated risk a calculated loss for my opponents.

undone galleon
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ic ic
ivy might also not be a bad choice

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also doorman

agile rune
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orange plays supports, got it

echo viper
echo viper
agile void
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You basically want heroes that can actually help or arent selfish

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but yeah, paige, viscous, rem, dynamo

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actually dynamo is kind of a counter initiator, the best moment to use his ult is when the fight started rather than the beginning of the fight

undone galleon
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yea dynamo's gravity thing is v big on already extant clustering

terse aspen
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Supports are fun in this game

echo viper
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But yeah, for anyone who plays Dota the fact that I like Dazzle and Mari tells you a lot.

somber creek
still swan
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What did McGinnis do

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Is she a war criminal or something

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Or I guess a designer for horrible weapons, thinking about it

final osprey
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She's responsible for more deaths than any other cast member

somber creek
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She's explicitly and canonically responsible for "Millions" of deaths

agile void
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you know

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human ones

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her ult is literally shooting souls at the enemy

somber creek
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She probably has more blood on her hands than Drifter does

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And Drifter has literal blood on his hands

agile void
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is this is a sinner shaped rem or a rem Shaped sinner?

somber creek
bleak thicket
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Yeah McGinnis is the Lockheed kind of evil

undone galleon
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mcginnis is the genius inventor for the us military industrial complex yeag

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actually wait do we know anything abt nukes in deadlock earth

somber creek
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Non

still swan
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Oh yeah thats pretty evil

gray otter
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is there anyone whose gameplan consists of spreading a DoT that makes them tankier and/or faster for having it on multiple targets

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im not too familiar w/ most of the kits in this game

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and im looking for someone lillia-adjacent

somber creek
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Uhhhhhh

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Pocket? I guess can fit

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Anyone with a DoT build radiant regeneration and spirit healing

gray otter
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fair

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oh hi mirage

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damn he seems super aim-reliant

final osprey
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The scarabs dont really do much max health stealing

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Mirage is pretty awkward to play imo

still swan
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Given she seems completely ambivalent to the suffering of others

astral lava
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Mirage 3 doesn't care about headshots

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If you build leech infernus dot can heal you

gray otter
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neither does mina really

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and i cant aim well enough for her

still swan
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"I bring a sort of uncaring war profiteer vibe to the function that even the godmaxxer and slashercel heads don't fuck with."

astral lava
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mina does really like headshots tbf

vast sandal
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McGinnis is a true straight-to-lockmart engineering grad

still swan
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Yep

gray otter
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its a shame that warp stone kills your horizontal momentum

final osprey
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Not even engineering grad, she came out of Highschool or something and went "I want to make Evil Artillery for profit"

magic summit
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I met an actual Lockheed Martin employee in another discord this last week, that was wild

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McGinnis player, funnily enough

somber creek
vivid nimbus
woeful kiln
lavish grove
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Get radiant regen and spirit lifesteal and then throw knives at people

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You’ll have a constant stream of health regen

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Combined with shiv being naturally very tanky with his 3

ivory reef
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gonna forward this message to me in its entirety

vestal hearth
finite patrol
somber creek
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Did Spaghettibastard ever stop being a deranged anti-semite

astral lava
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Who

somber creek
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Guy who made the art in #1276682303384457256 message this shitpost

astral lava
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the red thing? Idk. Probably not

vestal hearth
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Oh...

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I didn't... expect her to be that evil.

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She's so mundane.

lavish shale
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She's just a Raytheon girlie writ large

mint latch
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Played in a 6 man party with like 3 people who is ranked way above me, with 2 other newbies

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Got me feeling like the family guy death pose

lavish grove
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And even then she relents when McGinnis tells her she’s just looking for moral superiority

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I know there’s also the doorman baroness quote but I’m talking about her pre game interactions

agile void
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Which is weird to say Because even in this context

late hare
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thinking thoughts, making peace with my cringe FPS limits; it may be worth picking up Paige even if I think my shield timing is going to necessarily be bad

agile void
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ivy still has the superiority morally

lavish grove
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Yah lol

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Ivy is a significantly better person then her

late hare
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her 1 might give her decent macro for wave management

agile void
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its implied that she managed to kick the mendozas without blood spilled

vivid nimbus
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My theory about the baroness quotes is that they’re all just voicing characters inner insecurities

lavish grove
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Not implied she just did

lavish grove
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He’s playing with their inner voices but also he does do things personally to torment them

agile void
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"Mo, kill Krill"

lavish grove
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Like telling Ivy the exact date of one of the Arroy’s deaths

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I’m sure Ivy fears not being able to protect them but also the date of death was all doorman

agile void
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we dont even know how true it is

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the doorman quote to himself calls himself a fledling god

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he is a child age wise compared to the likes of Hidden king and archmother

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actually is the line where the patrons say "this is going to be interesting" still in the game?

lavish grove
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Not sure

astral lava
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he's yoglike

late hare
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I have also learned how to use Grey Talon owl more effectively for supporting teammates because it's not really that great of a personal execution tool

agile void
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its only on the archmother

lavish grove
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These voice lines read way more like they’re speaking to a peer then a lower god imo

agile void
lavish grove
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I mean yah but that’s in the context of a doorman ulting a doorman, which implies one of them is an imposter

agile void
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ooor he doesnt have full control of the baroness or is "outside" his full control

lavish grove
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From Night from @ redbobatea

undone galleon
lavish grove
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Chat, do we know if Abrams was born in Ixia or New York?

somber creek
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We don't

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Though he has at least been there

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unlike Infernus

lavish grove
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Ah ok

rocky cobalt
agile void
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Velma was the hot one of the mystery group lets be honest

finite grotto
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ok i have to ask but like does dynamo stomp go thjrough walls?

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or like

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does it reach around them if part isnt blocked by the wall?

somber creek
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latter

vast sandal
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Dynamo's stomp works like Doorman's cart where if the entire projectile doesn't get blocked, part of it will sneak around the wall and the rest will sorta schlide over

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Dynamo stomps look a lot more reasonable with this

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Doorman carts just kinda shrug and fly over walls instead of smashing into them sometimes

finite grotto
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it still sucks balls t o dodge stoomp

vast sandal
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jump

finite grotto
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i have like way mroe trouble with it then cart

vast sandal
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like actually just jump if you hear a stomp coming, Dynamo players hate it if you remember where your spacebar is

finite patrol
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yeah you gotta double jump instead of dodging to side or backwards

finite grotto
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ahh gotcha

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i legit just didnt know that

ivory reef
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Or

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Counterspell

vast sandal
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trying to dash out of Dynamo stomps will almost always get you owned and -1 stamina for trying, double jumping is extremely reliable

ivory reef
vast sandal
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I should buy Counterspell more

ivory reef
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🤚

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Stop. Is there someone you forgot to ask? That's right, my counterspell

lavish grove
vast sandal
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nice Affliction

ivory reef
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Lmao yeah I cocked everything up in that engagement

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Still got out

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That's pocket baybeee

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You don't need to be perfect you just gotta keep pulling shit out of your bag

finite patrol
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im forcing myself to buy counterspell more often even though i miss it a lot because its such an important item and skill to have

vast sandal
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I say that like I didn't pick up Pocket for a game, realize that Pocket demands a better sense of timing and comboing than I have, and then shamefully unselect them btw

finite grotto
finite patrol
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how come the constellation big as fuck??

lavish grove
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I’ve failed you frog enby…

vast sandal
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Pocket's just kinda hard

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does Duration+ give you more Barrage shots on Pocket actually

lavish grove
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Nah

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It’s always 4 shots

vast sandal
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damn

finite patrol
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imagine pocket with 60% amp

ivory reef
vast sandal
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I was explaining to someone that Mirage ult is, in fact, juiced as fuck by pointing out one of the best DotA support ults and I noticed

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Valve you goofy motherfuckers

finite grotto
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i just noticed our haze

somber creek
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That's fine tbh

finite patrol
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god how much ammo does she have when she hits burst

vast sandal
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hybrid haze is a real thing

finite grotto
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in the context of the game not really since she kinda should have been our source of gun dmg

lavish grove
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Do you really go for spirit tier 4s before gun though?

finite patrol
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i mean this build is bad

vast sandal
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not without Capacitor

finite patrol
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its not the worst ive seen

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but its bad

merry verge
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I think Purples Only Abrams was the worst build I've seen

finite patrol
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intensifying mag is not it

merry verge
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dude just evaporated on contact with enemy

vast sandal
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boundless spirit haze kinda genius though

lavish grove
vast sandal
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one. million. bullets.

lavish grove
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I build it early as Venator

merry verge
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Haze has really low bullet damage but her passive stacks win out, yeah?

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So escalating is weird

finite patrol
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it increases bullet damage. hazes base bullet damage is not good.

lavish grove
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Ohhhh

vast sandal
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intensifying mag is a good item but Haze's guns don't do damage

lavish grove
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That makes sense

vast sandal
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they apply Fixation

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Fixation does damage

finite patrol
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it should be swift striker instead 100%

finite grotto
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also sidenote as lash I cant really do anything vs counterspell right othen then trying to bait it out right?

vast sandal
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anyways this Haze is clearly building to have infinite sleep duration on her daggers (lmao)

lavish grove
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Honestly a really nice guide for someone to make is going over each item individually and talking about characters who really benefit from the item

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Because of stuff like that

autumn field
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no duration extender?

lavish grove
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It seems logically a gun hypercarry like haze would like intensifying magazine until you look under the hood

finite patrol
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That would be a 6 hour long video tho magma

vast sandal
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haze is not a hyper carry, she is an assassin

lavish grove
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That is true yah

vast sandal
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haze is like drifta, her job is not to become The Damage Source for her team like Wraith would

finite grotto
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well depends on the build no? Like I def think the onhit version/main m1 version can carry for sure and then just uses ult in 1v1s

vast sandal
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speaking of which, had a frustrating game where we could and should have won except our Wraith was dead set on proxying the enemy base in all circumstances

autumn field
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lucky shot abrams...

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proxying?

vast sandal
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like just fucking stop for 5 seconds, come help us win the team fight, you have the damage of a god

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stop trying to backdoor their patron

autumn field
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oh lmao

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i really want this on a non-legendary lmao

frail jasper
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"Carry haze" happens if she's allowed to go out of control, which is typical of most heroes that get a major lead and hold it. Role wise her job isn't to be a carry for the team though

autumn field
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ive seen some crazy melee players who do some insane mind games

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like wdym you intentionally cancel/miss 3 times in a row

finite patrol
lavish grove
vast sandal
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assassins can carry but their job is to assassinate

merry verge
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Suicide Sion and Proxy Singed were the truest villain behaviours in League

vast sandal
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wraith's job is to win lane, find a fuckton of souls, and assemble Da Combo

merry verge
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Wraith is here to teach you those people you thought did a lot of damage actually don't and are liars

autumn field
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what is suicide sion

autumn field
vast sandal
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yes

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wraith's job is to spend as much time as she needs to put Exodia together

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if she can do it before the enemy team can figure something out, that's it

autumn field
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merc mag is one of her cores, correct?

gray otter
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what is wraith exodia

vast sandal
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wraithxodia is mercmag+surge+capacitor

autumn field
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5~ items that make wraith god

finite grotto
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I would in league terms prob still call that a carry

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but thats me for sure

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sidenote i am uop againbst 4 slowing hexes as lash pain

ivory reef
vast sandal
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you also want leech and like, some permutation of [Silencer/Inhibitor/Toxic Bullets/Burst Fire] to optimize your damage

autumn field
vast sandal
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oh no yeah Bullet Resistance Shredder is also core

frail jasper
autumn field
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i recommend BRS on Graves

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its one of the core spirit spike items imo

vast sandal
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the really important ones are Mercmag-Surge-Capacitor though and those are expensive items

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once you have Exodia though, Wraith's damage output is surreal

autumn field
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spellslinger, spiritual overflow too

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you get crazy value out of both of those

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now, you shouldnt need to reload in the first place, but +66% fire rate thats functionally permanent...

vast sandal
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okay real shit spellslinger is luxury on wraith, spiritual overflow fucks but that's in the damage optimization phase of her build where you have the functional parts of her build flowing and now you just need more damage and onhits

autumn field
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oh yeah true lol

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recharging rush might be good as an early item

errant sphinx
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Mercurial mag has a cool down right

vast sandal
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unfortunately, recharging rush does not work on wraith's cards

errant sphinx
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On the ammo refill

vast sandal
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and yes

autumn field
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oh seriously?

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sad

vast sandal
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mercmag has a charge-up

granite heath
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I'm pretty sure recharging rush does work if you have extra charges

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or at least it seemed to in the lobby

vast sandal
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so if you reproc it by rapidly charging cards, which is sort of the point of hybrid hypercarry wraith, you will eventually run out of free bullets

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the sugar high does eventually run out :(

finite grotto
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no firerate at 50 min

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guh

autumn field
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that is...

vast sandal
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hey now

finite grotto
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and also in a team where we are 80% spirit

vast sandal
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active reload is firerate

granite heath
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Active Reload gives firerate doesn't it?

autumn field
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i assume a haze carry always buys glass cannon

vast sandal
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I buy Active Reload as my first item on Wraith

somber creek
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Vero I don't think you should care about your teammate's builds

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it's fine, anything can work in pubs to an extent as long as people are generally building for a gameplan

vast sandal
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I Pretend I Do Not See It but also I'm keeping an eye out to diversify our actives instead of double dipping

finite patrol
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active reload and vamp burst are both fire rate

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but also: what the fuck lol

merry verge
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Tbffff the base fire rate items are kinda boring

errant sphinx
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I mean sometimes teammates can be kind of bad

vast sandal
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vampburst furytrance haze is so so so fucking scary

finite grotto
#

I just dont understand seeing a team with lash, yamato, holliday and a spirit geiist and then going we need more spirit

somber creek
#

They can be but who cares

vast sandal
#

"I have elected to delete you now"

finite patrol
errant sphinx
#

I mean that is true

somber creek
#

it's a stranger doing their own thing

autumn field
#

hmmm

errant sphinx
#

You have to let it wash over you but it can be slightly annoying in the moment

vast sandal
errant sphinx
#

I think publicly posting and going like lol what is this fool doing is a bit far but idk if that's exactly happening here

vast sandal
#

but Glass Cannon isn't that good on Haze

autumn field
#

well i mostly play street brawl

errant sphinx
#

Deadlock has quickly taught me to stop caring if I lose games because of my team

lavish shale
vast sandal
#

There’s a subset of items for any build that are the “this shit ain’t mean nothing to me man I’ll fucking kill you” items for when you’ve gotten thoroughly out of control and can afford to spend souls on being a menace to society

#

For Doorman it’s Refresher

lavish grove
# autumn field what is suicide sion

It was a strategy in league of legends popularized by a streamer Baus. Basically sion has a passive where when he dies he goes into a berserk state and gains movement speed and auto attack speed for a bit. You’d use this passive intentionally to destroy towers extremely fast

#

Feeding the enemy top laner but getting huge objective pushes in the process

vast sandal
#

Buying Glass Cannon on Haze is very much in that set of nonsense buys that work if you’re rich and want to get richer

lavish grove
#

While it did work if you were really good at macro play, for the vast majority of people who suck at macro, it just lead to the enemy top laner getting fed as fuck

finite grotto
#

damm i just dropped two ranks for a game :c

lavish shale
lavish grove
#

Yah that too

gray otter
#

refresher is a truly heinous item

#

i should play sinclair

errant sphinx
#

I don't think refresher is worthwhile on sinclair

#

If those two statements are meant to be connected

gray otter
#

those two statements are not related

errant sphinx
#

Sinclair kinda has auto refresher tho I guess

vast sandal
#

My flex buy on Paradox is fucking Cheat Death

errant sphinx
#

I've been playing sinclair recently he's very fun

vast sandal
#

Yeah I think I’m funny what of it

lavish grove
gray otter
#

what happens if sinclair steals like

#

silver or mina ult

vast sandal
vivid nimbus
errant sphinx
#

For silver ult he turns into the beast

somber creek
#

They transform into silver yeah

errant sphinx
#

Mina idk

#

Does it not have a base duration

lavish grove
gray otter
#

does he copy the bat scaling

autumn field
vivid nimbus
magic summit
autumn field
#

like if you're fighting lash + dynamo...

lavish grove
#

But like, if you were doing suicide sion it was kinda impossible not to feed the enemy top laner at least a little bit

vast sandal
#

No but I already buy Diviner’s

vivid nimbus
#

Y’know what that’s fair then

errant sphinx
#

Playing Sinclair is pretty fun but I still don't know what to do in teamfights besides copy people's ults and turn people into bunnies

lavish grove
#

I mean, that is kinda what you do

vast sandal
#

Diviner’s Kevlar is actually a good buy on Paradox, Cheat Death is a meme for if I have spare souls/slots lategame and no room for another active

gray otter
granite heath
#

Attack the darkness

finite patrol
#

I cast magic missile

errant sphinx
#

I think I'm just bad at using 1 tho

vivid nimbus
autumn field
errant sphinx
#

I probably have like

#

A 20% hit rate on 1

vast sandal
#

I also buy Transcendent Cooldown so like

lavish grove
vast sandal
#

Okay we gotta talk about those thousand damage vexing bolts Sinclair mains

lavish grove
#

Because like, throwing bolts, bunnying people and stealing a good team fight ult is Sinclair’s role in a team fight

lavish grove
vivid nimbus
#

If you’re forcing enemies to spend stamina and attention to dodge your 1 that’s helpful too

lavish grove
#

Also bunny is a very strong CC spell

errant sphinx
#

Yeah I know bunny is good

lavish grove
#

Especially if you have any melee characters like Billy and Abrams

#

Since they can’t parry all of a sudden

errant sphinx
#

I mean that's kind of what I expected Sinclair to do but it does feel kind of bad when I try everything I can and the enemies don't be taking significant damage

vast sandal
#

It’s not okay, I’m not accepting of it, and frankly you Sinclair mains downplay your character to an unacceptable degree, it’s worse than Ken mains in SF6

lavish grove
#

That’s all true

errant sphinx
#

But like what can you do

#

I think Sinclair seems broken fwiw

#

But I'm bad and have like 100 games total

lavish grove
#

They have an aoe slow, silence, disarm and take away stamina button

vast sandal
#

Vortex Web bnuuy

lavish grove
#

Bunny is genuinely one of the strongest basic abilities in the game and I feel like I’m going crazy that nobody talks about it like it is

errant sphinx
#

I'm mostly commisserating that playing a non m1 carry in deadlock feels really low agency in my elo

vast sandal
errant sphinx
#

But I fear that m1 carries are dull

#

It also doesn't stop abilities

lavish grove
lavish shale
#

the bunnies being small makes them pretty hard to hit

lavish grove
#

It just better curse!

errant sphinx
#

Like if u do it on bebop ult the ult still goes

vast sandal
#

What

autumn field
#

However, it does delete an Abrams

errant sphinx
#

Yeah

vast sandal
#

Bunny Bebop can continue ulting that’s nuts

autumn field
#

Which makes it really funny

errant sphinx
#

It specifically says it doesn't interrupt actions

lavish grove
#

Same for Victor aura

autumn field
#

And therefore the best item in the game

#

Don’t bunny a Victor then

lavish grove
#

I mean you probably still do

#

Pain batter is super important

#

It’s heal is the best in your kit

lavish shale
errant sphinx
#

I wish the vertical hitboxes of aoe moves were more clear tho

somber creek
lavish shale
#

I've tried
and I never really feel like I do anything on Graves with her gun

#

even when building for it

errant sphinx
late hare
errant sphinx
#

I have no idea how high they are meant to hit above the ground by Lady Geist bomb does and bunny does not really

#

Despite looking similar

late hare
#

also yeah, Graves is deceptively tricky now that she's not as cracked

#

imo

lavish shale
#

feels like her damage is still mostly in the skulls, and they feel way less reliable now

late hare
#

I'm mostly working by comparison to League characters and in my mind she's supposed to be like Yorick, except not at all

lavish shale
#

I might try Graves a few more times, but feel like I can't get into her proper now

lavish grove
#

It’s a lot of non Victor mains miss about him

#

It’s his most important ability, not the aura

autumn field
#

i play vic a lot

lavish shale
#

Pain Battery is good, yeah

autumn field
#

18% missing HP is great

lavish shale
#

Aura is still slightly more important IMO

errant sphinx
autumn field
#

i think the build i use is t2 heal, t3 battery, and bits of the aura over time

errant sphinx
#

I'm decent enough at aiming that I can play like the machine gun m1 characters but my fav is Geist and she requires actual precision sorta

lavish grove
autumn field
#

t3 heal is really good but depends on the enemies

#

built in debuff cleanse is hella good

lavish grove
#

I generally go tier 2 battery for laning phase, grab tier 1 heal and aura, then tier 3 battery and then rush aura or heal depending on the matchup

#

Because yah the cleanse varies in usefulness a lot

#

Also man, a friend of mine just mentioned it but it is shocking how fun Vyper’s character is because when you describe her objectively she sounds like a character from a bad dnd podcast

#

“Horny lizard criminal from Brooklyn who’s a murder hobo stalker and acts as a force of chaos for everyone”

lavish shale
#

she sucks

#

she's just also funny

lavish grove
#

Her VA does a crazy good job

autumn field
#

Lash feels incredibly asshole and i love it

vast sandal
#

The critical part is that she’s depicted as not just chaotic and annoying, but also pathetic and genuinely malicious

#

She gets to be chaotic evil because everyone calls her on it constantly and she doesn’t prosper

lavish shale
#

Vyper has basically no redeeming qualities, and nobody really likes her

random urchin
#

I think the better way to sell it is "criminal who is better at breaking out of jail than actually doing crime"

lavish shale
#

except Rem, but he is too pure for this sinful world

vast sandal
#

She’s ineffectual and gets dunked on enough that you kinda want to see her win even though you know she’s awful

#

Which is the sweet spot

final osprey
vast sandal
#

Genuinely if we got a Vyper VN I think it would probably be pretty tragic

autumn field
lavish shale
vast sandal
#

Unless we got the epic ballad of Vyper: Definitely Law-Abiding Bounty Hunter

warm sonnet
#

It's her "memoirs"

#

-# She barely remembers the facts she tries to include, let alone the ones that matter

lavish shale
#

Viper the true sociopathic rep, because she's mostly just kinda pathetic and has no impulse control

vast sandal
#

the fact that even Calico, who is a wretched, craven little parasite masquerading as a cultured villain, looks down on Vyper is why you want her to win

#

Vyper deserves a W more than fucking Calico does

vast sandal
somber creek
#

ya

vast sandal
#

banger mix milord

somber creek
#

Well specifically Pump It By Outkast

#

Fascia is pulsating.

Seriously though for the first part of the Canto, Canto IX is coming out swinging. 90% of Ren's aura comes from his theme song. It's just so good. Also I hope you like my fairly spoiler free thumbnail.

Music used is Pump It by the Black Eyed Peas, and Pinky Apprentice Ren battle theme by Studio EIM (Canto IX Boss Battle 2)...

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#

I did learn through this that Silver 2 stops Abram's charge

finite grotto
#

another really great game sadcowboy

#

i should prob take a deadlock break

#

also apparently deadlock make a mistake and I ranked up a rank after this loss huh

vivid nimbus
#

I’ve ranked up after a few losses yeah

finite grotto
#

neat

vivid nimbus
#

I think it also looks at individual performance

finite grotto
#

but ye i def should take a break after a now 5 game losing streak (not all today but still) sadcowboy

lavish grove
#

Man, running an OSIC Delta Green game would go crazy

agile void
finite grotto
#

OK

#

a game is going good

#

this is at min 10 lol

#

fiesta gameplay but its so fun

agile void
#

everyone was playing street brawl

#

seven was actually playing the game

finite patrol
#

so many unclaimed vaults sadcowboy

frail jasper
#

the rem part of me is going feral for those unclaimed sinners

#

Clearly your team doesn't want them, so what's the harm in taking it for yourself :)

finite grotto
#

i did right after irespawned collected a lot of em yapyap

plain furnace
#

So, from what I get, doing teamfights with 4+ people on each side seems to be not a good idea.
Or maybe not ? I'm under the impression I keep seeing 4+ groups charge in, to various degrees of success

somber creek
#

it depends

vivid nimbus
vivid nimbus
#

And I think it's just Seven alternating side lanes

finite grotto
#

this was a reaaaaaal palate cleanser of a game after the lose streak

somber creek
#

The main thing is you don't want do do random teamfights for no reason

#

you wanna do it for Objectives

magic summit
#

Hey, this is me, the other voice on your shoulder opposite the one above

#

Do random team fights for no reason

echo viper
#

The third option; do random teamfights for reasons

magic summit
#

Take that medium camp while your wave is at your walker

agile void
#

not the one right beside it

#

If everyone is alive but they arent in the map. assume they are converging in the walker currently

magic summit
#

I have zero idea the reasoning there I'll be honest

plain furnace
lavish grove
#

Chat, does metal skin make you immune to abilities that deal Bullet damage like Venator shotgun?

magic summit
#

I'll be honest I do unironically do that a lot, I just like playing like a dota p4 wandering around looking to fist fight people for no reason

lavish grove
#

Oh ok

tidal elm
#

I learned that the hard way
The game considers it an ability

#

Not a bullet

magic summit
#

I did learn recently you have like a single frame to wall jump tech the knock back from the shotgun

#

So doing that consistently is my new obsession

#

The fighting game comparisons grow stronger

finite patrol
#

wait really?

#

holy shit

agile void
#

or they are farming

#

still I wouldnt risk a walker over getting hatecrimed by 3 people

magic summit
#

So let your walker die to creeps?

agile void
#

AH ALLY WALKER

#

sorry thought we meant enemy walker

finite patrol
#

if you take a walker and get killed by 3 people that's super worth though. W + slot + space created

magic summit
#

That's my main move as Celeste recently

#

They might send someone to defend walker who just can barely interact with me

#

And even if they can if I have spellslinger by that point it evaporates regardless

tidal elm
#

If I see Celeste taking my walker, she can just take it
Who am I to deny a girly pop her goals

plain furnace
#

@finite grotto @feral umbra @merry verge you are signed up for the stack to play tonight

feral umbra
#

Oh I actually can play tonight, too! I haven’t touched deadlock in a few weeks, this’ll be fun

finite patrol
#

One stack in an hour and the next one in 5

plain furnace
#

Of course, anyone else who wanna join is welcome

feral umbra
#

Been job hunting, but I can ease up now that I’ve got a couple offers

#

I probably won’t make the one in an hour though, but I’ll be there for the late one

plain furnace
#

I am still not sure how stacks work... I don't know what CET means, and it seems to work like GMT (?)

finite patrol
#

Central European Time

plain furnace
#

ooooooh

finite patrol
#

its the time zone what france is in

plain furnace
#

huh, maybe. I think we use GMT/GMT+1 to indicate it

finite patrol
#

Ah okay as a pacific coast canuck such things are beyond me. should I change it to GMT+1?

vast sandal
#

re: teamfights

#

on the one hand, team fighting for no reason can create the opportunity to do an objective if you get faces down

spring tundra
#

Celeste is a good character because she’s hot next question

#

:p

vast sandal
#

on the other, you should really be teamfighting for a reason in the first place, because a whiff teamfight can leave you 3 faces up but pushed back with no plan at all

plain furnace
finite patrol
#

that is why I didnt use gmt

magic summit
vivid nimbus
#

Diabolical

finite grotto
#

damm that edge boost (i think?)

plain furnace
#

R8ZTV for the group

finite grotto
#

there in as ec

plain furnace
#

<@&1277035919182008330> if anyone's interested, we're deadlocking in

spring tundra
vast sandal
#

sure

spring tundra
#

I’m extremely easy to bait lmao

vast sandal
#

I'll Deadlock in

autumn field
#

i got kelvin'd into death 😭

finite grotto
#

good pause

autumn field
#

why doesnt wraith 1 count as charged???

#

i omnicharge'd that shit

astral lava
#

Bug probably

autumn field
#

wow wraith spikes so hard its unreal

astral lava
#

yeah shes a woman of lategame

merry verge
plain furnace
#

no probs

#

we got pummeled by a bebop

still swan
autumn field
#

i just had a game where we went to 100k fucking souls

#

this is why i plan up to 64k builds lmao

finite patrol
#

<@&1277035919182008330>
@feral umbra @ivory reef @verbal rock @vast sandal Good evening! It is Wednesday Night Deadlock in 62 minutes! Who's in?

rocky cobalt
#

I'm in

#

In bed that is

finite patrol
#

gottem

finite patrol
#

You keep showing up. should I add you to the list for this'n?

feral umbra
#

oh we get started in like an hour? I think I mistimed my stuff because I'm not free for another two hours

vivid nimbus
finite patrol
open nova
open nova
#

Chat
I might have
found further Seven/Kelvin Ex's lore

#
First, your destiny was denied to you. Then your lover tried to steal it for themselves. But now, with the Archmother's help, it can finally be yours.
magic summit
rich grove
#

the clipperrrrrrr

finite patrol
#

the BOAT

finite grotto
finite patrol
#

<@&1277035919182008330> join in!

bleak thicket
#

lemme grab some water

finite patrol
#

good idea

finite patrol
#

PCMJD

finite grotto
#

i am so zoomed in

finite patrol
#

<@&1277035919182008330> We have room for 1 more

#

@steep halo

astral lava
#

is there anything in particular that can cause you to just get 0 air off a wall jump but still get the sound

astral lava
#

it seems to happen mostly on the wall of the double gamble for some reason. trying to get on the roof and just spend all my stamina not moving anywhere

quiet sapphire
#

wall jump fatigue?

feral umbra
#

PCMJD

astral lava
quiet sapphire
#

hmm

autumn field
#

Man im playing victor and im somehow 10k ahead

finite patrol
astral lava
#

valve pls fix

finite patrol
#

I think its intended

#

anyway are you using heavy melee to ledge grab?

astral lava
#

no

finite patrol
#

give it a try i find it helps a lot with that building

astral lava
#

Its something I Have Done but does it like need to be done there

#

its probably the stupid pipes on the edge

finite patrol
#

it is exactly those pipes yes

astral lava
#

does heavy melee just like make your ledge grab hit box big enough to go through it

finite patrol
#

go around the side and climb up from the garage top

#

heavy melee gives you some extra air and effects lets you climb higher

astral lava
#

it is very unlikely that I will remember this in the moment but we will see next time I play

lavish grove
#

Chat, if you copy Vindicta or Grey Talon ult as Sinclair and get a kill with them

#

Do you get stacking spirit damage?

finite patrol
#

I dont see why you wouldn't but this seems pretty easy to test

lavish grove
#

I’m currently away from my computer

finite patrol
#

im doorman ulting you into your computer room

lavish grove
#

Oh no

frail jasper
lavish grove
#

Thanks

frail jasper
#

Sinclair even gets the bonus hp from hitting Abrams slams

astral lava
#

Im now noticing there doesnt seem yo be a duration listed on the wiki

#

oh okay its 25 seconds. well thats normal to keep yeah

finite patrol
#

This video misses explaining heavy melee's movement usage but is otherwise a pretty good intro to deadlock movement tech
https://youtu.be/EtHEtvBfC2M

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lavish grove
#

You know what this game needs?

#

And that I’m only being slightly facetious about

#

The patron to start screaming your kill streak when you kill enough people quickly

#

I need the hidden kill to scream SEXTUPLE KILL as loud as possible

warm sonnet
#

KRILLIMANJARO

#

KRILLIONAIRE

glass flicker
#

Honestly that would be hard as fuck I’d love it

#

Need HK to pop the fuck off when I manage to kill 3 people with Celeste ult in Street Brawl

still swan
#

Thats low-key evil

agile void
agile void
tidal elm
#

please Valve, we need shorts.

warm sonnet
#

I do wanna see Haze in shorts

somber creek
#

Give me random pop culture characters and I will give you their patron line

astral lava
#

Johnny from ed edd n eddy

somber creek
#

Johnny...the other children mock you...but Plank understands. And so do I. Summon me, and you and your best friend will make them pay...

still swan
#

Jagganoth

#

Alternatively, Allison

lavish grove
#

Meursault Limbus Company

somber creek
#

Mersault. Summon me.

#

Easiest prompt in my fuckin life

lavish grove
#

Yes Patron

warm sonnet
#

Jagganoth... The wheel ceaselessly turns... With my aid you can finally break the hand which turns the wheel...

warm sonnet
vast sandal
#

Kevin... you long for the life you had before it was so cruelly taken from you. Summon the Archmother, and take back what was stolen from you!

warm sonnet
#

Honestly, perfect fit for Deadlock

#

As the third vampire whom is the worst of them all, socially adjusted but tired as hell

lavish grove
# still swan Alternatively, Allison

Allison… you’ve been shown your future but such a thing can be changed! Summon me, and the hidden king shall grant you the freedom to choose again…

finite patrol
#

im now imagining chrichton far scape as a hero but the hidden king is replaced only for him with scorpius' neural clone harvey

somber creek
#

Crocker... for so long you have been tormented by Timmy's fairies... complete the Ritual...expose the truth....

lavish grove
#

Rodion… Sonya abandoned the people, growing fat and lazy on ideology. Your only crime was passion. Summon me, and prove to them how right you are.

agile void
ivory reef
agile void
#

does that mean she would do machine love?

vivid nimbus
#

Teto Lash is incredibly funny when there's an existing Miku Bebop mod

agile void
#

im disappointed that the miku bebop didnt went the extra mile and made all her conversations with the miku vocaloid thingy

vivid nimbus
#

All I wanted from it was Miku Miku Beam and was not disappointed there

somber creek
#

It does exist though

still swan
#

If this is true I find it funny

#

Two Wolfgirls

finite patrol
#

oh thats really good

lavish grove
#

From @ mywaveswonder

finite patrol
#

she did say this

somber creek
worldly dirge
#

miku miku beam

#

also shrimpman

agile void
finite grotto
#

I am not sure if we are playing the same game

agile void
#

mostly because that tweet seems to be quoted around

finite patrol
#

making up a guy to get mad at

frail jasper
#

I LOVE telling my teammates good job whenever they do anything
I WILL continue to use operant conditioning to make them perform better

finite patrol
#

evil manipulative dark triad ass behaviour

lavish shale
#

I just turned off text chat

somber creek
#

I mean I've been called slurs a few times already

#

it's not an alien notion

autumn field
#

I like playing Seven and going around saying “IM GONNA ZAP YOU” and then zapping them

lavish shale
autumn field
#

It’s rare to get toxic people ime

vast sandal
#

Infernus players be like

#

“I’m gonna call my team slurs, that’ll motivate them to play better”

lavish grove
vast sandal
#

Tbh I get more games where online randoms compliment each other, call out useful info, and work well as a team

bleak thicket
#

mute/report
always
when the behaviour score system gets added theyll stop being able to talk/text chat/ping if they keep being assholes

vast sandal
#

Than I do people being asshats on voice or chat

autumn field
#

I get project moon fans in my chats lmao

#

“Do you love the city you live in”

finite patrol
vast sandal
#

It does, provably

finite patrol
#

also being kind literally increases your mmr and your teams mmr

vast sandal
#

Human brain is keyed to remember negative experiences way better than positive ones

finite patrol
#

im boosting my teammates

somber creek
#

Man I am getting so many teams in Street Brawl who will see me desperately 1v4ing the entire enemy team for a solid minute and just watch with ults up

#

"Silver has ult, time to back off" they all agree in complete silence

magic summit
#

I loved some statistic a dev of another game posted where a years worth of stats said that if your team had someone negative in chat, and the other team didn't, you had a 22% winrate

finite patrol
#

yeah that tracks

magic summit
#

Which, understandably, the team losing will be more negative

#

But 22% is wild

finite grotto
finite patrol
#

so being nice in deadlock is effectively a 5% increase in win rate

magic summit
#

If I play with randoms there is like a 50/50 chance that someone starts being toxic in my Deadlock games from my own experiences

#

Usually it's two lane partners start crashing out at each other for who is fucking up the lane or someone on the enemy team is having an all chat meltdown over their team

glass flicker
#

Turning a corner and getting smacked in the head by a Rem pillow filled with bricks and Benadryl, got me seeing the Hatman bust it down in 10 fps

somber creek
#

lord

#

a good team

#

all I ask

#

I'm also apparently Oracle

finite grotto
#

damm!

somber creek
#

swept again though

finite patrol
#

oracle is where all the ritualists got sent when playerbase quintupled

finite grotto
#

I have finally broken my six game losing streak 😭

finite patrol
#

lets fuckin go bud

frail jasper
#

the games can still be lost and teams can still be bad but now it's at least for different reasons, cuz it feels like people at least know what their abilities do

#

mostly

finite patrol
#

im at oracle 6 now lol

frail jasper
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I stopped seeing Lash press his 4 while walking around at street level (there was nobody else around)

finite patrol
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I do feel like im improving slowly

finite grotto
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emissary and archon are so weird. one game you have very new people and in the next a holliday that does rodeo tricks backwards on your ass

finite patrol
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yeah it's all goofed up

finite grotto
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ey

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atleast you cant have smurfs if all the middish ranks are jumbled up anyway 🤩

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I did drop down from archon into emissary during the loss streak sadcowboy

finite patrol
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you'll make it back you're good

echo viper
finite patrol
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yeah most of us play on stylus

glass flicker
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I use an Xbox kinect actually

undone galleon
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booting up my old 3ds so i can actually play deadlock

vivid nimbus
undone galleon
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thats awesome

vivid nimbus
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||It’s a fake fact ||

finite patrol
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it's real for me

maiden ledge
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it's real i just checked

undone galleon
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factchecked by principled comrades ✅

vivid nimbus
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Attempted to get Victor's self damage high enough that aura ticks could trigger witchmail, failed

vivid nimbus
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So it does

autumn field
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i think the base dps is high enough that it would be functionally infinite HP if it counted

vivid nimbus
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Nah the individual ticks were only hitting like 50-60 or so

autumn field
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oh huh

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isnt his dps like, 200+?

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from his aura

vivid nimbus
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But it ticks like 4 times a second

autumn field
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ah.

vivid nimbus
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(He also only takes 70% self-damage, while enemies are taking 100% or 113%)

glass flicker
steep halo
vast sandal
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okay

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played 4 games, lost all of them, every single time we went from a huge lead to our team throwing

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feels fucking BAD man

steep halo
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got blamed for the entirety of the game being lost by a rem who is 0/8/0

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sometimes It's bad

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It doesn't matter though

autumn field
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you can type the kdr to shut them up but whatever

mild flume
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nobody is ever gonna shut up if you do that but like I super get the temptation

autumn field
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actually true

vast sandal
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see 0 kills I get but if you get no kill participation at all you are just talking shit for nothing

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get in there and help your team man

agile rune
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Gotta die for the cause

vast sandal
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throw a pillow for the cause at least

frail jasper
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A rem of all things having 0 assists is pretty damning.

lavish shale
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0 assists is crazy

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What do you even do to get no kill participation at all

glass flicker
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DPS Rem

late hare
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do we why know how/why Apollo is attending school in NYC, considering he’s somewhere in the ruling lineage of a (currently? formerly?) hostile nation to the US?

frail jasper
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A land of beauty, tradition and conflict; North Ixia is no stranger to brutal political violence. So when Apollo was told that it was for his own safety he was being sent to New York for school, he knew the situation was serious.
He's been sent to the US for safety reasons.

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Ixia is described as a beautiful place and a popular tourism destination.[2][3][4]

The US government is sending aid to Ixia as part of their military campaign, drawing opposition from the Friends of Humanity.[5] The Ixian War is a divisive political topic.[6]
Ixia is not hostile with the US.

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South Ixia
South Ixia is the 52nd state of the United States. The anniversary of its annexation is celebrated across the country.[14]

North Ixia
North Ixia is a sovereign region described as "a land of beauty, tradition and conflict", in which notable battles have occurred. It is plagued by political violence, which forced Apollo to move to New York.[2][12][15]
TIL that South Ixia is the 52'd state

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The United States is composed of 52 states. The 50th State is the Island of Cadenza,[1] the 51st is Puerto Rico,[2] and the 52nd is South Ixia.[3] Other known states include New York, Wyoming,[4] Massachusetts,[5][6] Illinois,[7] Pennsylvania[8] and Wisconsin.[9]

undone galleon
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yea from the sounds of it its a p classic scenario of like, member of the ruling class relocating to safer pastures due to ongoing war

warm sonnet
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it may also be maintain soft diplomatic ties with the US

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And, of course, keeping Apollo from murdering the opposition before its time

still swan
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I recall Haze saying that she doesnt want Apollo in the ritual since his death would cause a diplomatic incident

agile void
tidal elm
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"that's it, you're banished to the Prime Video Dimension"

agile rune
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anti-ixian racism

agile void
finite grotto
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what is happening

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the enemy is perma going on us lol

vestal hearth
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A mod by SomethingWithSaturday (@Saturdaybrew) on Twitter.com.

still swan
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When we inevitably get skins added to Deadlock I want one with Viscious in Holiday's Hat and/or with a tie

late hare
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ah, this guy

mint latch
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Paige if being a subject for yuri art of the game was a test

tidal elm
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I await the time valve gets down into character models and refreshes some of them cause they deserve better

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granted it's something pretty late on the dev timeline, but they could be pushed with the next update

desert kelp
mint latch
vestal hearth
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😳

desert kelp
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I Am Normal About This

vestal hearth
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I like the idea of evil, mean wife.

tidal elm
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Paige has to be exposed to every shade of Wife the game has
the Scott Pilgrim of Deadlock

lavish shale
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hey there's also Victor

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she can be shipped with anyone

tidal elm
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Victor can also be wife content

vestal hearth
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I'm pretty sure Victor could easily become wife if he wanted.

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I mean in every sense of the sentiment.

vast sandal
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Yamato is a funny character

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She’s a mean, dumb thug with delusions of grandeur but speaking Japanese means people in-universe don’t know how crude and blunt she is

mint latch
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Lol

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Lmao even

lavish shale
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she also constantly talks shit about people, because they can't understand her

tidal elm
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we can also consider, Japanese makes her sound hot anyway

tidal elm
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Ivy shit-talks ppl in spanish when she kills them

vast sandal
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She constantly starts shit with people who are really not on her pay-grade and represent serious threats to her gang because she’s so aggressive and compulsive about asserting dominance over others

vestal hearth
vast sandal
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Like Yamato baby what??? Is you doing?! you’re beefing with Haze, an OSIC assassin who can just kill you in the night and no one will be any wiser

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if I were you I would not be talking shit directly at someone whose 9-to-5 is killing people exactly like you but more successful and influential and getting paid by the US government for it

tidal elm
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one think I really like is how they wrote Haze, like yea she kills but it's her job, she's not entirely her job
like the convos with Vendicta make this pretty clear

somber creek
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Ivy shit talks people openly in English though

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Yamato says shit in Japanese then refuses to clarify

tidal elm
somber creek
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She does, what I'm saying is that Ivy doesn't hide her shit talk behind Spainish

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Shit talking a corpse in Spainish is different from
("Dog shit fucker bastard")
"I'll assume that's hello?"
"It isn't."

tidal elm
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ah yes, ofc

gray otter
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ok my friend's interested in holliday

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i understand her to be very tricky to play

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what advice should i give her

astral lava
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Punch barrels to aim them

gray otter
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that much i knew and told her

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(shes a big ultrakill fan so i figured she'd enjoy it)

rich grove
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stop holding W in the air

finite patrol
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Look up how to air strafe

rich grove
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once you're off a jumppad in the direction you want to go use exclusively A and D as you're flying forward

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and your rollouts will be way faster

gray otter
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oh jesus fuck ok

finite patrol
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if you air strafe as thresh described you can do like 1/2 to 3/4 of a circle back your starting point without using stamina which is really good for harassing in lane or escaping / chasing around buildings

gray otter
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holliday is The character for weird tech sickos huh

finite patrol
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one of them

rich grove
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pretty much

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also after the doorman door nerf you might be the best urn runner in the game

spring tundra
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Door nerf?

spring tundra
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Cue me grabbing urn as mcguiness: yes this is my job

rich grove
finite grotto
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Hmhm

rich grove
finite patrol
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one of the most warranted nerfs since mirage teleport urn nerf

spring tundra
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Yeah that’s fair

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HE USED TO BE ABLE TO TELEPORT WITH URN?

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That’s hilarious

rich grove
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yes

finite patrol
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when urn was first released for a very brief period you could use teleporters which were behind the tier 3 side lane camps to transport it and then when mirage released for a very brief period you could use traveler to move it

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actually I may have that wrong icr exactly if urn was before or after mirage

astral lava
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kind of hate the source engine "never press w in air" stuff. Just mostly annoying to get punished bc of a physics bug

finite patrol
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I would like it if it were implemented as a less awkward feature yeah

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its definitely a "this is cool, wontfix" but it would be nice to make it more comfortable

magic summit
finite grotto
maiden ledge
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i like pressing w and it's kind of mean of them to keep it suboptimal

astral lava
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particularly because there is no real way to naturally figure it out unless you happen to already know about half life 2 speedrunning

finite grotto
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Or tf2

astral lava
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is it in tf2??

finite patrol
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its a source engine bug

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I presume you can airstrafe in garrys mod

upbeat perch
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or i can be a step slow...

finite patrol
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patches being posted to steam now?!

frail jasper
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  • Medic Troopers DPS grows by 3% per minute
    REM BUFFS LET'S GO
finite grotto
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wait so many things got so many adjustments

frail jasper
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Midboss is more valuable to take and easier to sneak (map-wide warning only a 50% instead of 70%)