#Deadlock
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Paradox's carbine is an initiate tool that lets you catch people with their pants down and then set up her kit on them, or stop enemies in their tracks if they're running you or an ally down, or prevent enemies from escaping teamfights
her grenade kinda does everything - it punishes grouping, clears waves, digs enemies out of cover positions and sets up brutal carbine > 5x headshot damage, and it absolutely demolishes buildings
her wall is interesting in that the threat of wall represents a lot of its power, no one wants to walk through a Paradox wall on purpose and even though it only slows projectiles down, that slowdown gives you a lot of leeway to dodge stuff you normally would get nailed by so using it to clog a chokepoint lets you control the flow of battle a lot both in lanes and in teamfights
plus it's great at stopping people from chasing you or from getting away from fights again, this time in the context of boxing people in and forcing them to choose between 10% of their HP or whatever Vyper's going to do to them if they don't run
but the real beauty of all of this stuff is that you have swap, and everything Paradox does interacts with the rest of her kit and with her ult beautifully
now that you can punish peoples' positioning and control the flow of battle with grenade and wall, you also have ult to force the problem and drag someone into a kill box
you can make them split by throwing a grenade into their group, then identify the weak link and swap them into your team while the enemy's pants are down scrambling from a big damage circle they know better than to sit in
Kinetic Carbine makes a running target a cinch to lock with your ult and drag into a deadly ambush
and then the most obvious self-interaction in her kit is throwing up a wall to swap someone through to silence them and yoink their HP with
Paradox's kit looks like goodstuff if you don't play her a lot, but the trick is that all her goodstuff plays into itself and reinforces her gimmick of being able to manipulate the positioning of heroes and the flow of movement in fights in order to turn fair fights into very unfair ones
shoot them in the head to line up swap
drop a wall to swap them thru
swap them
throw nade while u swap
beat their ass while theyre slowed silenced and taking a ton of extra damage from you
schmovement your ass outta there
doing The Paradox Combo right is a big part of doing paradox stuff but you also gotta remember that your kit isn't purely linear like that
sometimes you want to do shit like Kinetic Carbine a Lash who's flying into the fight and swap him into death, sometimes your team is trying to back out of a fight they can't win so you throw your shield and your grenade behind it to create a barricade and then swap the Haze who's flanked your team out of your backline and retreat
swaps can save your team's life just as effectively as they can kill an enemy carry
dragging the Drifter who's on your poor defenseless Paige into the light is still using your ult well
its uptime is also high enough you can and should just chuck it on vibes, without worrying about blowing it
if only to practice doing it
Drag an ulting Infernus off your team, yoink the urn with ultimate style, use your Time Wall to intercept Celeste’s ult and give your team time to split up, Kinetic Carbine can stall ults that have to confirm targets like Lash or Rem and give your team the vital fraction of a second they need to escape, throw a Time Wall in front of ult Silver and dance back and forth until she dies from repeat procs, dump a pulse grenade in the enemy jungle camp while you’re pushed up and you can steal it while still focusing on poking them away
I played a game as MnK and the Paradox swapped the enemy carry into my face and I went one braincell mode with my own ult
Paradox can do a lot of stuff if you have the presence of mind
"What's this Venator doing here? Well, he dies now"
you got a scottish limousine for your burrito
null rod...
Null rod?
hmmm i think ill do a doorman game today
the refrance
Ah, yeah
You kinda just gotta be deranged and let the possibilities flow through your brain to squeeze the juice out of her kit imo
That seems like an exceptionally annoying floodgate
None of her skills are defining features but all of them do some weird fucked up stuff and if you use em all correctly you’re gonna style all over your opponents
Also she’s one of them heroes, like Doorman, where picking em is kind of implicitly a boast of your ability to maximize her kit (like how picking Haze is kind of boasting of your aiming skills to a degree) but also I’ve been complimented on my 9001IQ Paradox plays by opponents and the validation juice is very sweet
i accidentally imbued echo shard on door in street brawl 😭
it is unrestricted, surprisingly, but that could just be because a) symmetrical b) it's on the reserve list so it's super expensive c) you can only play it in legacy/vintage where there are even more broken things to be doing
i dont know if it works but its funny
I once accidentally put quicksilver reload on my 4 instead of my 3 as Mirage
Oh wait the blowy vents, not the tunnel vents
Fortunately it wasn't a street brawl so I could sell it and buy it back after I realised it but
Doorman 38 second vent stun combo Via/DaglassP #shorts
they should remove the tunnels not just because they're silly but because they add confusion with the air vents
every time I play rem i fail to make any use of them at all bc I dont know where the hell they are or where they lead
wait i need to try something insane
just finished an absolute ASS game where everyone lost their lanes horribly and every team fight was just an abysmal wombo combo
That sounds like an issue on your end
trying paradox rn
she is awfully fun
hard asf to use tho
@vast sandal
i think you paradox ruight
I be paradoxin'
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good shit
yeah your Kinetic Carbine is gonna be kinda fucked up on this build
Duration Extender also good
tbh
I think Refresher is lowkey ass on Paradox
but it's Street Brawl so you do what you can with what you have
yeah Paradox's gun is aggro as hell
yeah id love her if it werent for the fact that her kit requires coord (no team) and tons of skill
my favorite thing about Paradox is how much you can cook if you're just constantly on the ball looking for opportunities to do Some Shit
refresher, imo, is just really fucking funny w/ vortex web
because you can do some zany double wall zip zap time stop boom boom
slorp them through the wall
slorp them through the wall again
slorp them through two wall
slorp them through two wall again
tonight's series of games were just absolutely unfun
those kinds of games where you're just losing all lane, then find out everyone is losing, then the entire next 30 minutes of the game are just more losing in a slow death
but not losing enough for the enemy to totally steamroll and rush the end of the game?
no, but losing enough that the enemy totally steamrolls and also just plays it slow and steady
Yeah...
I know that kinda game
yeah...
all the factors of "enemy team is just outright better than you" and neither me nor anyone on my team can do anything meaningful about it
I'd rather they just get strong enough to end it
It's never over until it's over, but damn if i can't read the writing on the wall
Been loving this image recently
bwuh
Abrams to me is the DL counterpart of Leagues' Garen
You can't kill him
Why the fuck does he do so much damage
shotgun
Yea, and Garen would say
Big sword, so it checks out
Getting Celeste ult and landing it mid fight as Sinclair is a herculean task
but that's why they pay you the big bucks
comments don’t explain anything else
There's not too much to get with it I don't think; it's a typical "one is not like the others" joke with a deep cut reference, which doubly serves as being directed towards those who get it (assuming such a group exists, which isn't always the case).
there's a they can get it alright joke there
;p
But yeah, it's I think similar to when some folk looked at Danger in Marvel Tōkon and went "white woman downtilt!".
oh that is a white woman normal
Case in point I suppose ;p.
orange what's your favourite deadlock character
Think the joke is that "redheads are honorary black people".
paige and kelvin should be there then
Have to finish upgrading my computer before I can play it properly, but I'd reckon anyone who lets me play similarly do Dazzle.
Give me saves and the ability to punish dives and I'm happy.
I do not know dazzle
on a search about dazzle there's no 1 to 1 comparison but I think Kelvin will do what you want, maybe
define saves & punish dives
Admittedly Dazzle has been like at least three different heroes, so it's not an easy character to know.
Nevertheless the core defining trait here is a strong counter-initiation tool for saving allies and/or resetting fights, so at a glance probably something close to Viscous.
oh the cube yea
literally never had a viscous in a game with me
Save meaning saving them from getting immediately killed, either through repositioning (Mari in Dota 2) or other means such as invulnerability (Dazzle or Shadow Demon in Dota 2).
Counter-initiation is the capacity to disrupt a fight which has already begun, or someone's attempt to initiate a fight, either to retreat or to gain an advantage. Examples of this in Dota 2 include Naga Siren with her song, or ironically enough Tidehunter. Dazzle achieves this is in large part through their save (Shallow Grave).
To punish dives is done by through some mean fucking someone over when they attempt to dive one of your allies. Examples of this include Counter-initiation, Saves, global teleports, crowd control effects, or in Dota 2 Treant Protectors living armour.
Basically I like anything which makes a calculated risk a calculated loss for my opponents.
orange plays supports, got it
Looking through them all I think Viscous, Paige, Doorman, and Ivy in that order may fit.
Support is one way to put it, unfair is another.
You basically want heroes that can actually help or arent selfish
but yeah, paige, viscous, rem, dynamo
actually dynamo is kind of a counter initiator, the best moment to use his ult is when the fight started rather than the beginning of the fight
yea dynamo's gravity thing is v big on already extant clustering
Supports are fun in this game
Oft in games anything which effective for initiation, especially AoE effects, are also good for counter-initiation.
But yeah, for anyone who plays Dota the fact that I like Dazzle and Mari tells you a lot.
What did McGinnis do
Is she a war criminal or something
Or I guess a designer for horrible weapons, thinking about it
She's responsible for more deaths than any other cast member
She's explicitly and canonically responsible for "Millions" of deaths
There is also the fact that she functionally weaponized Souls
you know
human ones
her ult is literally shooting souls at the enemy
She probably has more blood on her hands than Drifter does
And Drifter has literal blood on his hands
is this is a sinner shaped rem or a rem Shaped sinner?
also her turrets are powered by souls
Yeah McGinnis is the Lockheed kind of evil
mcginnis is the genius inventor for the us military industrial complex yeag
actually wait do we know anything abt nukes in deadlock earth
Non
Oh yeah thats pretty evil
is there anyone whose gameplan consists of spreading a DoT that makes them tankier and/or faster for having it on multiple targets
im not too familiar w/ most of the kits in this game
and im looking for someone lillia-adjacent
Uhhhhhh
Pocket? I guess can fit
Anyone with a DoT build radiant regeneration and spirit healing
The scarabs dont really do much max health stealing
Mirage is pretty awkward to play imo
I guess that does make sense why she's interested in fixing Seven's stuff after the Ritual
Given she seems completely ambivalent to the suffering of others
yeah but like
neither does mina really
and i cant aim well enough for her
"I bring a sort of uncaring war profiteer vibe to the function that even the godmaxxer and slashercel heads don't fuck with."
mina does really like headshots tbf
McGinnis is a true straight-to-lockmart engineering grad
Yep
its a shame that warp stone kills your horizontal momentum
Not even engineering grad, she came out of Highschool or something and went "I want to make Evil Artillery for profit"
I met an actual Lockheed Martin employee in another discord this last week, that was wild
McGinnis player, funnily enough
i completely forgot i was holding on to this one, so here
more of a shitpost if im gonna be real
Chain it into a dash and you keep momentum, same with Mina's bats
You can kinda play shiv like this
Get radiant regen and spirit lifesteal and then throw knives at people
You’ll have a constant stream of health regen
Combined with shiv being naturally very tanky with his 3
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classic infernus play of flame dashing out and healing to full so you can re-engage
Did Spaghettibastard ever stop being a deranged anti-semite
Who
Guy who made the art in #1276682303384457256 message this shitpost
the red thing? Idk. Probably not
She's just a Raytheon girlie writ large
Played in a 6 man party with like 3 people who is ranked way above me, with 2 other newbies
Got me feeling like the family guy death pose
Honestly I am shocked listening to McGinnis’s interactions the only character who actually calls her a bad person is Ivy
And even then she relents when McGinnis tells her she’s just looking for moral superiority
I know there’s also the doorman baroness quote but I’m talking about her pre game interactions
Which is weird to say Because even in this context
thinking thoughts, making peace with my cringe FPS limits; it may be worth picking up Paige even if I think my shield timing is going to necessarily be bad
ivy still has the superiority morally
her 1 might give her decent macro for wave management
its implied that she managed to kick the mendozas without blood spilled
My theory about the baroness quotes is that they’re all just voicing characters inner insecurities
Not implied she just did
That’s probably true but there’s also definitely a bit of doorman doormanning there
He’s playing with their inner voices but also he does do things personally to torment them
"Mo, kill Krill"
Like telling Ivy the exact date of one of the Arroy’s deaths
I’m sure Ivy fears not being able to protect them but also the date of death was all doorman
we dont even know how true it is
the doorman quote to himself calls himself a fledling god
he is a child age wise compared to the likes of Hidden king and archmother
actually is the line where the patrons say "this is going to be interesting" still in the game?
Not sure
he's yoglike
I have also learned how to use Grey Talon owl more effectively for supporting teammates because it's not really that great of a personal execution tool
These voice lines read way more like they’re speaking to a peer then a lower god imo
even then there is still the doorman ult
I mean yah but that’s in the context of a doorman ulting a doorman, which implies one of them is an imposter
ooor he doesnt have full control of the baroness or is "outside" his full control
From Night from @ redbobatea
Sinclair can also happen to him
cocktalk necessary for deadlock this is true
Ohhh yah
Chat, do we know if Abrams was born in Ixia or New York?
Ah ok
Velma was the hot one of the mystery group lets be honest
ok i have to ask but like does dynamo stomp go thjrough walls?
or like
does it reach around them if part isnt blocked by the wall?
latter
Dynamo's stomp works like Doorman's cart where if the entire projectile doesn't get blocked, part of it will sneak around the wall and the rest will sorta schlide over
Dynamo stomps look a lot more reasonable with this
Doorman carts just kinda shrug and fly over walls instead of smashing into them sometimes
it still sucks balls t o dodge stoomp
jump
i have like way mroe trouble with it then cart
like actually just jump if you hear a stomp coming, Dynamo players hate it if you remember where your spacebar is
yeah you gotta double jump instead of dodging to side or backwards
trying to dash out of Dynamo stomps will almost always get you owned and -1 stamina for trying, double jumping is extremely reliable
knocks over a table, rolls off of couch onto the floor PARKOUR
I should buy Counterspell more
nice Affliction
Lmao yeah I cocked everything up in that engagement
Still got out
That's pocket baybeee
You don't need to be perfect you just gotta keep pulling shit out of your bag
im forcing myself to buy counterspell more often even though i miss it a lot because its such an important item and skill to have
suitcase*
Am Dynamo player, can confirm
I say that like I didn't pick up Pocket for a game, realize that Pocket demands a better sense of timing and comboing than I have, and then shamefully unselect them btw
well ye but the main issue with stomp i had was early lane
how come the constellation big as fuck??
I wanna play pocket so bad but I’m so bad at them
I’ve failed you frog enby…
Pocket's just kinda hard
does Duration+ give you more Barrage shots on Pocket actually
damn
imagine pocket with 60% amp
Try harder my child...
I was explaining to someone that Mirage ult is, in fact, juiced as fuck by pointing out one of the best DotA support ults and I noticed
Valve you goofy motherfuckers
That's fine tbh
god how much ammo does she have when she hits burst
hybrid haze is a real thing
in the context of the game not really since she kinda should have been our source of gun dmg
Do you really go for spirit tier 4s before gun though?
i mean this build is bad
not without Capacitor
I think Purples Only Abrams was the worst build I've seen
intensifying mag is not it
dude just evaporated on contact with enemy
boundless spirit haze kinda genius though
Is intensifying mag not good?
one. million. bullets.
I build it early as Venator
Haze has really low bullet damage but her passive stacks win out, yeah?
So escalating is weird
it increases bullet damage. hazes base bullet damage is not good.
Ohhhh
intensifying mag is a good item but Haze's guns don't do damage
That makes sense
it should be swift striker instead 100%
also sidenote as lash I cant really do anything vs counterspell right othen then trying to bait it out right?
anyways this Haze is clearly building to have infinite sleep duration on her daggers (lmao)
Honestly a really nice guide for someone to make is going over each item individually and talking about characters who really benefit from the item
Because of stuff like that
no duration extender?
It seems logically a gun hypercarry like haze would like intensifying magazine until you look under the hood
That would be a 6 hour long video tho magma
haze is not a hyper carry, she is an assassin
That is true yah
haze is like drifta, her job is not to become The Damage Source for her team like Wraith would
well depends on the build no? Like I def think the onhit version/main m1 version can carry for sure and then just uses ult in 1v1s
speaking of which, had a frustrating game where we could and should have won except our Wraith was dead set on proxying the enemy base in all circumstances
like just fucking stop for 5 seconds, come help us win the team fight, you have the damage of a god
stop trying to backdoor their patron
"Carry haze" happens if she's allowed to go out of control, which is typical of most heroes that get a major lead and hold it. Role wise her job isn't to be a carry for the team though
ive seen some crazy melee players who do some insane mind games
like wdym you intentionally cancel/miss 3 times in a row
shes an assassin that can turn early ganks into map pressure and start carrying. but people play her as an afk farmer that doesnt do anything until 20min a lot
Suicide sion ruined a whole generation of Moba players
assassins can carry but their job is to assassinate
Suicide Sion and Proxy Singed were the truest villain behaviours in League
wraith's job is to win lane, find a fuckton of souls, and assemble Da Combo
Wraith is here to teach you those people you thought did a lot of damage actually don't and are liars
what is suicide sion
i love how wraith has an exodia combo
yes
wraith's job is to spend as much time as she needs to put Exodia together
if she can do it before the enemy team can figure something out, that's it
merc mag is one of her cores, correct?
what is wraith exodia
wraithxodia is mercmag+surge+capacitor
5~ items that make wraith god
super fair
I would in league terms prob still call that a carry
but thats me for sure
sidenote i am uop againbst 4 slowing hexes as lash pain
satchel**
you also want leech and like, some permutation of [Silencer/Inhibitor/Toxic Bullets/Burst Fire] to optimize your damage
iirc the build i had calls for bullet resist shred
oh no yeah Bullet Resistance Shredder is also core
Perhaps the other term that could be used to describe it is "raid boss", which is a status something a lot of heroes can achieve if they get sufficiently ahead or there's a massive skill difference
the really important ones are Mercmag-Surge-Capacitor though and those are expensive items
once you have Exodia though, Wraith's damage output is surreal
spellslinger, spiritual overflow too
you get crazy value out of both of those
now, you shouldnt need to reload in the first place, but +66% fire rate thats functionally permanent...
okay real shit spellslinger is luxury on wraith, spiritual overflow fucks but that's in the damage optimization phase of her build where you have the functional parts of her build flowing and now you just need more damage and onhits
Mercurial mag has a cool down right
unfortunately, recharging rush does not work on wraith's cards
On the ammo refill
and yes
mercmag has a charge-up
I'm pretty sure recharging rush does work if you have extra charges
or at least it seemed to in the lobby
so if you reproc it by rapidly charging cards, which is sort of the point of hybrid hypercarry wraith, you will eventually run out of free bullets
the sugar high does eventually run out :(
that is...
hey now
and also in a team where we are 80% spirit
Active Reload gives firerate doesn't it?
i assume a haze carry always buys glass cannon
I buy Active Reload as my first item on Wraith
Vero I don't think you should care about your teammate's builds
it's fine, anything can work in pubs to an extent as long as people are generally building for a gameplan
I Pretend I Do Not See It but also I'm keeping an eye out to diversify our actives instead of double dipping
Tbffff the base fire rate items are kinda boring
I mean sometimes teammates can be kind of bad
vampburst furytrance haze is so so so fucking scary
I just dont understand seeing a team with lash, yamato, holliday and a spirit geiist and then going we need more spirit
They can be but who cares
"I have elected to delete you now"
nah. the weapon damage is, again, not good. burst fire is a much better option for just loadsa fire rate
I mean that is true
it's a stranger doing their own thing
hmmm
You have to let it wash over you but it can be slightly annoying in the moment
if you're going wild and running the lobby I mean sure whatever buy it for fun
I think publicly posting and going like lol what is this fool doing is a bit far but idk if that's exactly happening here
but Glass Cannon isn't that good on Haze
well i mostly play street brawl
Deadlock has quickly taught me to stop caring if I lose games because of my team
Not exactly a cooldown, but the effect builds up over time
So if you spam the bound skill before it's full, you get less effect out of it each time
Still good though
There’s a subset of items for any build that are the “this shit ain’t mean nothing to me man I’ll fucking kill you” items for when you’ve gotten thoroughly out of control and can afford to spend souls on being a menace to society
For Doorman it’s Refresher
It was a strategy in league of legends popularized by a streamer Baus. Basically sion has a passive where when he dies he goes into a berserk state and gains movement speed and auto attack speed for a bit. You’d use this passive intentionally to destroy towers extremely fast
Feeding the enemy top laner but getting huge objective pushes in the process
Buying Glass Cannon on Haze is very much in that set of nonsense buys that work if you’re rich and want to get richer
ah icicic
While it did work if you were really good at macro play, for the vast majority of people who suck at macro, it just lead to the enemy top laner getting fed as fuck
damm i just dropped two ranks for a game :c
Also charge into them with ult, because I think it did damage to structures for some reason?
Yah that too
I don't think refresher is worthwhile on sinclair
If those two statements are meant to be connected
those two statements are not related
Sinclair kinda has auto refresher tho I guess
My flex buy on Paradox is fucking Cheat Death
I've been playing sinclair recently he's very fun
Yeah I think I’m funny what of it
Why?
Lets you survive swaps that you shouldn’t
It’s stronger if you suicide into towers that there’s no enemy at to get fed off you :v
For silver ult he turns into the beast
They transform into silver yeah
Yah, dying to objectives instead of enemies was also a big part
does he copy the bat scaling
refresher depends on the enemy team imo
Does it help more than Diviner’s?
No
like if you're fighting lash + dynamo...
But like, if you were doing suicide sion it was kinda impossible not to feed the enemy top laner at least a little bit
No but I already buy Diviner’s
Y’know what that’s fair then
Playing Sinclair is pretty fun but I still don't know what to do in teamfights besides copy people's ults and turn people into bunnies
I mean, that is kinda what you do
Diviner’s Kevlar is actually a good buy on Paradox, Cheat Death is a meme for if I have spare souls/slots lategame and no room for another active
hit someone with the evil railgun
Attack the darkness
I cast magic missile
I think I'm just bad at using 1 tho
You also throw bolts at squishies, it does a surprising amount of damage
60 second CD for 1000 HP sounds good
I also buy Transcendent Cooldown so like
Yah just getting that accuracy enough would really help
Okay we gotta talk about those thousand damage vexing bolts Sinclair mains
Because like, throwing bolts, bunnying people and stealing a good team fight ult is Sinclair’s role in a team fight
Questions need to start being asked
If you’re forcing enemies to spend stamina and attention to dodge your 1 that’s helpful too
MYSTICAL REVERBU
Also bunny is a very strong CC spell
Yeah I know bunny is good
Especially if you have any melee characters like Billy and Abrams
Since they can’t parry all of a sudden
I mean that's kind of what I expected Sinclair to do but it does feel kind of bad when I try everything I can and the enemies don't be taking significant damage
It’s not okay, I’m not accepting of it, and frankly you Sinclair mains downplay your character to an unacceptable degree, it’s worse than Ken mains in SF6
That’s all true
But like what can you do
I think Sinclair seems broken fwiw
But I'm bad and have like 100 games total
They have an aoe slow, silence, disarm and take away stamina button
Vortex Web bnuuy
Bunny is genuinely one of the strongest basic abilities in the game and I feel like I’m going crazy that nobody talks about it like it is
I'm mostly commisserating that playing a non m1 carry in deadlock feels really low agency in my elo
It makes you faster and smaller so it’s balanced that it’s Better Curse
Yah it stops you from meleeing and parrying too!
the bunnies being small makes them pretty hard to hit
It just better curse!
Like if u do it on bebop ult the ult still goes
What
However, it does delete an Abrams
Yeah
Bunny Bebop can continue ulting that’s nuts
Which makes it really funny
It specifically says it doesn't interrupt actions
Same for Victor aura
I mean you probably still do
Pain batter is super important
It’s heal is the best in your kit
I want to play M1 characters, but my aim is too garbage to actually do anything on them
so I play Victor instead
I wish the vertical hitboxes of aoe moves were more clear tho
Play Graves, the M1 who doesn't have to aim
I've tried
and I never really feel like I do anything on Graves with her gun
even when building for it
I have this issue with lady Geist bomb and the bunny move
fucking bnuuy 
I have no idea how high they are meant to hit above the ground by Lady Geist bomb does and bunny does not really
Despite looking similar
feels like her damage is still mostly in the skulls, and they feel way less reliable now
I'm mostly working by comparison to League characters and in my mind she's supposed to be like Yorick, except not at all
I might try Graves a few more times, but feel like I can't get into her proper now
Also genuinely pain battery is so underrated it’s crazy
It’s a lot of non Victor mains miss about him
It’s his most important ability, not the aura
i play vic a lot
Pain Battery is good, yeah
18% missing HP is great
Aura is still slightly more important IMO
Also this is true but I don't like Victor either...
i think the build i use is t2 heal, t3 battery, and bits of the aura over time
I'm decent enough at aiming that I can play like the machine gun m1 characters but my fav is Geist and she requires actual precision sorta
It’s so strong
this is the way
t3 heal is really good but depends on the enemies
built in debuff cleanse is hella good
I generally go tier 2 battery for laning phase, grab tier 1 heal and aura, then tier 3 battery and then rush aura or heal depending on the matchup
Because yah the cleanse varies in usefulness a lot
Also man, a friend of mine just mentioned it but it is shocking how fun Vyper’s character is because when you describe her objectively she sounds like a character from a bad dnd podcast
“Horny lizard criminal from Brooklyn who’s a murder hobo stalker and acts as a force of chaos for everyone”
Her VA does a crazy good job
Lash feels incredibly asshole and i love it
The critical part is that she’s depicted as not just chaotic and annoying, but also pathetic and genuinely malicious
She gets to be chaotic evil because everyone calls her on it constantly and she doesn’t prosper
Vyper has basically no redeeming qualities, and nobody really likes her
I think the better way to sell it is "criminal who is better at breaking out of jail than actually doing crime"
except Rem, but he is too pure for this sinful world
She’s ineffectual and gets dunked on enough that you kinda want to see her win even though you know she’s awful
Which is the sweet spot
She's not really a murder hobo, she just can't really get a job other than crime. On account of all the crime.
Which only really leaves her with crime or dying
Genuinely if we got a Vyper VN I think it would probably be pretty tragic
well she does also kill a lot of people
Unless we got the epic ballad of Vyper: Definitely Law-Abiding Bounty Hunter
It's her "memoirs"
-# She barely remembers the facts she tries to include, let alone the ones that matter
Viper the true sociopathic rep, because she's mostly just kinda pathetic and has no impulse control
the fact that even Calico, who is a wretched, craven little parasite masquerading as a cultured villain, looks down on Vyper is why you want her to win
Vyper deserves a W more than fucking Calico does
Canto 9 Boss 2 x Miserlou?
ya
banger mix milord
Well specifically Pump It By Outkast
Fascia is pulsating.
Seriously though for the first part of the Canto, Canto IX is coming out swinging. 90% of Ren's aura comes from his theme song. It's just so good. Also I hope you like my fairly spoiler free thumbnail.
Music used is Pump It by the Black Eyed Peas, and Pinky Apprentice Ren battle theme by Studio EIM (Canto IX Boss Battle 2)...
I did learn through this that Silver 2 stops Abram's charge
another really great game 
i should prob take a deadlock break
also apparently deadlock make a mistake and I ranked up a rank after this loss huh
I’ve ranked up after a few losses yeah
neat
I think it also looks at individual performance
but ye i def should take a break after a now 5 game losing streak (not all today but still) 
Man, running an OSIC Delta Green game would go crazy
OK
a game is going good
this is at min 10 lol
fiesta gameplay but its so fun
so many unclaimed vaults 
the rem part of me is going feral for those unclaimed sinners
Clearly your team doesn't want them, so what's the harm in taking it for yourself :)
i did right after irespawned collected a lot of em yapyap
So, from what I get, doing teamfights with 4+ people on each side seems to be not a good idea.
Or maybe not ? I'm under the impression I keep seeing 4+ groups charge in, to various degrees of success
it depends
The funny part is that all 4 yellow/green vaults are claimed but none of the others
It's dependent on factors
it's good if you win 
And I think it's just Seven alternating side lanes
this was a reaaaaaal palate cleanser of a game after the lose streak
The main thing is you don't want do do random teamfights for no reason
you wanna do it for Objectives
Hey, this is me, the other voice on your shoulder opposite the one above
Do random team fights for no reason
The third option; do random teamfights for reasons
Take that medium camp while your wave is at your walker
tbh if there is no one in the map, yeah do that
not the one right beside it
If everyone is alive but they arent in the map. assume they are converging in the walker currently
I have zero idea the reasoning there I'll be honest
I see. Let the enemy in a situation where they never know what's coming. Guerilla warfare...
I will do it repeatedly in the next game...
Chat, does metal skin make you immune to abilities that deal Bullet damage like Venator shotgun?
I'll be honest I do unironically do that a lot, I just like playing like a dota p4 wandering around looking to fist fight people for no reason
No
Oh ok
I did learn recently you have like a single frame to wall jump tech the knock back from the shotgun
So doing that consistently is my new obsession
The fighting game comparisons grow stronger
Because if no one is in the map, that means they are hiding or setting up an ambus
or they are farming
still I wouldnt risk a walker over getting hatecrimed by 3 people
So let your walker die to creeps?
if you take a walker and get killed by 3 people that's super worth though. W + slot + space created
That's my main move as Celeste recently
They might send someone to defend walker who just can barely interact with me
And even if they can if I have spellslinger by that point it evaporates regardless
If I see Celeste taking my walker, she can just take it
Who am I to deny a girly pop her goals
@finite grotto @feral umbra @merry verge you are signed up for the stack to play tonight
Oh I actually can play tonight, too! I haven’t touched deadlock in a few weeks, this’ll be fun
One stack in an hour and the next one in 5
Of course, anyone else who wanna join is welcome
Been job hunting, but I can ease up now that I’ve got a couple offers
I probably won’t make the one in an hour though, but I’ll be there for the late one
I am still not sure how stacks work... I don't know what CET means, and it seems to work like GMT (?)
Central European Time
ooooooh
its the time zone what france is in
huh, maybe. I think we use GMT/GMT+1 to indicate it
Ah okay as a pacific coast canuck such things are beyond me. should I change it to GMT+1?
re: teamfights
on the one hand, team fighting for no reason can create the opportunity to do an objective if you get faces down
on the other, you should really be teamfighting for a reason in the first place, because a whiff teamfight can leave you 3 faces up but pushed back with no plan at all
I dunno. if other people find it weird, maybe. Maybe it's more commonly used, and it's specifically Greenwich that has a chauvinistic attitude on its naming.
that is why I didnt use gmt
Consider: this is how I play the video game
Diabolical
damm that edge boost (i think?)
R8ZTV for the group
there in as ec
<@&1277035919182008330> if anyone's interested, we're deadlocking in
Yeah this is me sometimes
sure
I’m extremely easy to bait lmao
I'll Deadlock in
good pause
Bug probably
wow wraith spikes so hard its unreal
yeah shes a woman of lategame
aaa sorry my evenings have been weirdly busy of late
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i just had a game where we went to 100k fucking souls
this is why i plan up to 64k builds lmao
<@&1277035919182008330>
@feral umbra @ivory reef @verbal rock @vast sandal Good evening! It is Wednesday Night Deadlock in 62 minutes! Who's in?
gottem
Time to sleep too
I’m down
You keep showing up. should I add you to the list for this'n?
oh we get started in like an hour? I think I mistimed my stuff because I'm not free for another two hours
Hey it's only my second time showing up but also I'm in the general Deadlock ping
sfine we usually play a few games so you can catch the later ones
omg that is some really high quality Seven content
excuses!
Chat
I might have
found further Seven/Kelvin Ex's lore
First, your destiny was denied to you. Then your lover tried to steal it for themselves. But now, with the Archmother's help, it can finally be yours.
That's my friend! She's usually one of the voices in the clips I post
the clipperrrrrrr
the BOAT
@vivid nimbus @vast sandal Party Code: PCMJD
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welp I took a nap and cant go to sleep again so might aswell
<@&1277035919182008330> join in!
lemme grab some water
good idea
PCMJD
is there anything in particular that can cause you to just get 0 air off a wall jump but still get the sound
it seems to happen mostly on the wall of the double gamble for some reason. trying to get on the roof and just spend all my stamina not moving anywhere
wall jump fatigue?
PCMJD
happens on the first one
hmm
Man im playing victor and im somehow 10k ahead
the doubles building in particular has some weird geometry on its roof
valve pls fix
no
give it a try i find it helps a lot with that building
Its something I Have Done but does it like need to be done there
its probably the stupid pipes on the edge
it is exactly those pipes yes
does heavy melee just like make your ledge grab hit box big enough to go through it
go around the side and climb up from the garage top
heavy melee gives you some extra air and effects lets you climb higher
it is very unlikely that I will remember this in the moment but we will see next time I play
Chat, if you copy Vindicta or Grey Talon ult as Sinclair and get a kill with them
Do you get stacking spirit damage?
I dont see why you wouldn't but this seems pretty easy to test
I’m currently away from my computer
im doorman ulting you into your computer room
Oh no
Vindicta gives weapon damage but yes you should get those stacks.
Thanks
Sinclair even gets the bonus hp from hitting Abrams slams
.............is that shit permanent?
Im now noticing there doesnt seem yo be a duration listed on the wiki
oh okay its 25 seconds. well thats normal to keep yeah
This video misses explaining heavy melee's movement usage but is otherwise a pretty good intro to deadlock movement tech
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You know what this game needs?
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The patron to start screaming your kill streak when you kill enough people quickly
I need the hidden kill to scream SEXTUPLE KILL as loud as possible
Honestly that would be hard as fuck I’d love it
Need HK to pop the fuck off when I manage to kill 3 people with Celeste ult in Street Brawl
Thats low-key evil
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I do wanna see Haze in shorts
Give me random pop culture characters and I will give you their patron line
Johnny from ed edd n eddy
Johnny...the other children mock you...but Plank understands. And so do I. Summon me, and you and your best friend will make them pay...
Meursault Limbus Company
Yes Patron
Jagganoth... The wheel ceaselessly turns... With my aid you can finally break the hand which turns the wheel...
Kevin from the funny Twilight show you're writing for
Kevin... you long for the life you had before it was so cruelly taken from you. Summon the Archmother, and take back what was stolen from you!
Honestly, perfect fit for Deadlock
As the third vampire whom is the worst of them all, socially adjusted but tired as hell
Allison… you’ve been shown your future but such a thing can be changed! Summon me, and the hidden king shall grant you the freedom to choose again…
im now imagining chrichton far scape as a hero but the hidden king is replaced only for him with scorpius' neural clone harvey
Crocker... for so long you have been tormented by Timmy's fairies... complete the Ritual...expose the truth....
Rodion… Sonya abandoned the people, growing fat and lazy on ideology. Your only crime was passion. Summon me, and prove to them how right you are.
you can just check what random character they put over someone in game banana
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Grabbed the perfect freeze frame
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Teto Lash is incredibly funny when there's an existing Miku Bebop mod
im disappointed that the miku bebop didnt went the extra mile and made all her conversations with the miku vocaloid thingy
All I wanted from it was Miku Miku Beam and was not disappointed there
That is a seperate mod
It does exist though
oh thats really good
From @ mywaveswonder
she did say this
I am not sure if we are playing the same game
mostly because that tweet seems to be quoted around
making up a guy to get mad at
I LOVE telling my teammates good job whenever they do anything
I WILL continue to use operant conditioning to make them perform better
evil manipulative dark triad ass behaviour
I just turned off text chat
I like playing Seven and going around saying “IM GONNA ZAP YOU” and then zapping them
I don't like interacting with strangers in MOBAs
the few funny or useful interactions I might have just aren't worth it
It’s rare to get toxic people ime
Infernus players be like
“I’m gonna call my team slurs, that’ll motivate them to play better”
I ran into some real edgelords recently who when we had to pause from my friend’s internet issues immediately jumped to talking about SA
Tbh I get more games where online randoms compliment each other, call out useful info, and work well as a team
mute/report
always
when the behaviour score system gets added theyll stop being able to talk/text chat/ping if they keep being assholes
Than I do people being asshats on voice or chat
same. a bad time resonates more I think
It does, provably
also being kind literally increases your mmr and your teams mmr
Human brain is keyed to remember negative experiences way better than positive ones
im boosting my teammates
Man I am getting so many teams in Street Brawl who will see me desperately 1v4ing the entire enemy team for a solid minute and just watch with ults up
"Silver has ult, time to back off" they all agree in complete silence
I loved some statistic a dev of another game posted where a years worth of stats said that if your team had someone negative in chat, and the other team didn't, you had a 22% winrate
yeah that tracks
ye for sure
so being nice in deadlock is effectively a 5% increase in win rate
If I play with randoms there is like a 50/50 chance that someone starts being toxic in my Deadlock games from my own experiences
Usually it's two lane partners start crashing out at each other for who is fucking up the lane or someone on the enemy team is having an all chat meltdown over their team
Turning a corner and getting smacked in the head by a Rem pillow filled with bricks and Benadryl, got me seeing the Hatman bust it down in 10 fps
damm!
swept again though
oracle is where all the ritualists got sent when playerbase quintupled
I have finally broken my six game losing streak 😭
lets fuckin go bud
true,I got shot from alchemist -> ritualist -> archon and now have settled at oracle 2
the games can still be lost and teams can still be bad but now it's at least for different reasons, cuz it feels like people at least know what their abilities do
mostly
im at oracle 6 now lol
I stopped seeing Lash press his 4 while walking around at street level (there was nobody else around)
I do feel like im improving slowly
emissary and archon are so weird. one game you have very new people and in the next a holliday that does rodeo tricks backwards on your ass
yeah it's all goofed up
ey
atleast you cant have smurfs if all the middish ranks are jumbled up anyway 🤩
I did drop down from archon into emissary during the loss streak 
you'll make it back you're good
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How to do this horrible thing
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Once you have everything...
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I use an Xbox kinect actually
booting up my old 3ds so i can actually play deadlock
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Attempted to get Victor's self damage high enough that aura ticks could trigger witchmail, failed
it states "from an enemy"
So it does
i think the base dps is high enough that it would be functionally infinite HP if it counted
Nah the individual ticks were only hitting like 50-60 or so
But it ticks like 4 times a second
ah.
(He also only takes 70% self-damage, while enemies are taking 100% or 113%)

okay
played 4 games, lost all of them, every single time we went from a huge lead to our team throwing
feels fucking BAD man
got blamed for the entirety of the game being lost by a rem who is 0/8/0
sometimes It's bad
It doesn't matter though
you can type the kdr to shut them up but whatever
nobody is ever gonna shut up if you do that but like I super get the temptation
actually true
see 0 kills I get but if you get no kill participation at all you are just talking shit for nothing
get in there and help your team man
Gotta die for the cause
throw a pillow for the cause at least
A rem of all things having 0 assists is pretty damning.
DPS Rem
do we why know how/why Apollo is attending school in NYC, considering he’s somewhere in the ruling lineage of a (currently? formerly?) hostile nation to the US?
A land of beauty, tradition and conflict; North Ixia is no stranger to brutal political violence. So when Apollo was told that it was for his own safety he was being sent to New York for school, he knew the situation was serious.
He's been sent to the US for safety reasons.
Ixia is described as a beautiful place and a popular tourism destination.[2][3][4]
The US government is sending aid to Ixia as part of their military campaign, drawing opposition from the Friends of Humanity.[5] The Ixian War is a divisive political topic.[6]
Ixia is not hostile with the US.
South Ixia
South Ixia is the 52nd state of the United States. The anniversary of its annexation is celebrated across the country.[14]North Ixia
North Ixia is a sovereign region described as "a land of beauty, tradition and conflict", in which notable battles have occurred. It is plagued by political violence, which forced Apollo to move to New York.[2][12][15]
TIL that South Ixia is the 52'd state
The United States is composed of 52 states. The 50th State is the Island of Cadenza,[1] the 51st is Puerto Rico,[2] and the 52nd is South Ixia.[3] Other known states include New York, Wyoming,[4] Massachusetts,[5][6] Illinois,[7] Pennsylvania[8] and Wisconsin.[9]
yea from the sounds of it its a p classic scenario of like, member of the ruling class relocating to safer pastures due to ongoing war
it may also be maintain soft diplomatic ties with the US
And, of course, keeping Apollo from murdering the opposition before its time
I recall Haze saying that she doesnt want Apollo in the ritual since his death would cause a diplomatic incident
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When we inevitably get skins added to Deadlock I want one with Viscious in Holiday's Hat and/or with a tie
ah, this guy
I await the time valve gets down into character models and refreshes some of them cause they deserve better
granted it's something pretty late on the dev timeline, but they could be pushed with the next update
Does Yamato actually say that in game?
Not yet, but the files are there
😳
I Am Normal About This
I like the idea of evil, mean wife.
Paige has to be exposed to every shade of Wife the game has
the Scott Pilgrim of Deadlock
Victor can also be wife content
I'm pretty sure Victor could easily become wife if he wanted.
I mean in every sense of the sentiment.
Yamato is a funny character
She’s a mean, dumb thug with delusions of grandeur but speaking Japanese means people in-universe don’t know how crude and blunt she is
she also constantly talks shit about people, because they can't understand her
we can also consider, Japanese makes her sound hot anyway
I think it's the required behaviour of any bilingual character
Ivy shit-talks ppl in spanish when she kills them
She constantly starts shit with people who are really not on her pay-grade and represent serious threats to her gang because she’s so aggressive and compulsive about asserting dominance over others

Like Yamato baby what??? Is you doing?! you’re beefing with Haze, an OSIC assassin who can just kill you in the night and no one will be any wiser
if I were you I would not be talking shit directly at someone whose 9-to-5 is killing people exactly like you but more successful and influential and getting paid by the US government for it
one think I really like is how they wrote Haze, like yea she kills but it's her job, she's not entirely her job
like the convos with Vendicta make this pretty clear
Ivy shit talks people openly in English though
Yamato says shit in Japanese then refuses to clarify
i'm pretty sure she uses both languages
She does, what I'm saying is that Ivy doesn't hide her shit talk behind Spainish
Shit talking a corpse in Spainish is different from
("Dog shit fucker bastard")
"I'll assume that's hello?"
"It isn't."
ah yes, ofc
ok my friend's interested in holliday
i understand her to be very tricky to play
what advice should i give her
Punch barrels to aim them
stop holding W in the air
Look up how to air strafe
once you're off a jumppad in the direction you want to go use exclusively A and D as you're flying forward
and your rollouts will be way faster
oh jesus fuck ok
if you air strafe as thresh described you can do like 1/2 to 3/4 of a circle back your starting point without using stamina which is really good for harassing in lane or escaping / chasing around buildings
holliday is The character for weird tech sickos huh
one of them
pretty much
also after the doorman door nerf you might be the best urn runner in the game
Door nerf?
Over la Celeste?
Cue me grabbing urn as mcguiness: yes this is my job
goober's sole gimmick in pro play is onetricking holliday and getting from one sidelane to the other in two stam
Hmhm
you drop urn when you go throgh door
one of the most warranted nerfs since mirage teleport urn nerf
yes
when urn was first released for a very brief period you could use teleporters which were behind the tier 3 side lane camps to transport it and then when mirage released for a very brief period you could use traveler to move it
actually I may have that wrong icr exactly if urn was before or after mirage
kind of hate the source engine "never press w in air" stuff. Just mostly annoying to get punished bc of a physics bug
I would like it if it were implemented as a less awkward feature yeah
its definitely a "this is cool, wontfix" but it would be nice to make it more comfortable
Almost every time she insults someone in Japanese she then insults them in English, lol
Or a combo esque trial teaching you this
i like pressing w and it's kind of mean of them to keep it suboptimal
particularly because there is no real way to naturally figure it out unless you happen to already know about half life 2 speedrunning
Or tf2
is it in tf2??
patches being posted to steam now?!
- Medic Troopers DPS grows by 3% per minute
REM BUFFS LET'S GO
lol
wait so many things got so many adjustments
Midboss is more valuable to take and easier to sneak (map-wide warning only a 50% instead of 70%)
