Deadlock

[agile rune]

auto attack carry

[stable forum]

she has +50 bullet damage with .43 spirit scaling per bullet!

[mild flume]

a right clicker in dota parlance

[rich grove]

i'm not getting into a serious debate about item theory again after last time, you got it

[stable forum]

she likes firerate! doesn't she?

[agile void]

dauntless, with this logic you are saying that victor is a gun carry

[agile rune]

thresh do you want to get in a silly debate with me?

[stable forum]

well, victor's gun hits hard, but it's not... Victor doesn't have a gun steroid

Celeste explicitly does

it's a big gun steroid too! a fairly large one.

[rich grove]

he has a gun steroid on his ult when he has it uncharged

[agile void]

what is the t3?

[stable forum]

oh, you're right, i forgot that he has a gun steroid on t3 ult

I've not really seen that used.

[agile void]

Im not saying you are wrong

[stable forum]

...that's a pretty bad gun steroid

[agile void]

Im just pointing out that you need more arguments to say that celeste is a gun hero

[rich grove]

we should make sports goggles legal in mma to stop the eye poke bullshit

[agile void]

because he has a way faster gun and bigger mag?

[stable forum]

I guess I haven't been paying attention

I'd just figured celeste players were building hybrid

with spellslinger + all three stamina items

[agile rune]

I'm so in, unfortunately you presented a sound position

[rich grove]

they build exactly spellslinger but one orange item alone does not an m1 make

[agile void]

dauntless I have not seen any gun items in the top dailies

[stable forum]

weird!

unfortunately I am too busy poking Sinclair to grace Deadlock with Gun Celeste

[agile rune]

how well does celeste climb mountains

[stable forum]

...probably pretty well? She's good at going up.

[agile rune]

this is a celeste joke

[earnest verge]

she does have the double jump...

[stable forum]

oh

[earnest verge]

and the air control...

[stable forum]

...heh

[agile rune]

but I am thinking of making a tier list of deadlock characters and how well they climb mountains

obviously celeste and billy are S tier

[stable forum]

is drifter up at the top?

[rich grove]

drifter is up at the top iff [sic] there's a rejuv crystal up there

[agile rune]

Drifter should never leave the confines of a city

[rich grove]

then he can throw 2 and teleport

[mild flume]

top is mirage

he just goes to the top

[agile rune]

despite my love for him, I still do not play drifter much

I simply do not do well with him

[stable forum]

he gets his... what's mirage's relationship to nashala? Employer, I guess?

to take him

[agile rune]

Principle, Ward, employer

[rich grove]

his ward probably, bodyguard terminology right

actually principal sounds better

[agile rune]

one day I will sit down and make myself good at drifter

until then, Billy works just fine

[stable forum]

does it still count as climbing the mountain if he buys magic carpet?

[agile rune]

hmm

yes

[agile void]

literally a full page of top dailies

there is only 2 builds with gun items in the categories

[agile rune]

wrong reply?

[feral umbra]

man all the new characters are so much more pain in the ass to fight than the last wave

[agile void]

there is the metro build but even then she goes more hybrid in this one

[feral umbra]

I almost wish for the days where it waas Victor-Ball, now every time I see a Graves or Apollo on the other team I just assume we're going to lose whatever lane either of them are in

[agile void]

I thought I got the right reply but it is still the one that suggested gun celeste

[agile rune]

didn't apollo get nerfed like yesterday

[feral umbra]

I dont think he got that memo because he's still singlehandedly winning games

[stable forum]

weiird

[stable forum]

yeah it's going to be a hybrid m1 build

that's the leech hybrid overlap

leech / spellslinger / surge i guess

[agile void]

the only gun items I see people building on her is spellslinger

ricochet

spirit rend

[stable forum]

spellslinger is the biggest one, but kd is also very common i'd expect

[agile void]

and fire rate stuff

[stable forum]

riccochet? huh

yeah it's going to be all firerate

[agile void]

dauntless you are just assuming what a hero is playing like without even touching it

[stable forum]

she's got, yknow, an on-hit effect. she's not going to be building gun damage when she's doing m1 stuff, she's going to be building rof and shreds maybe

[agile void]

also ballistic enchantment and recharging rush

[stable forum]

huh

[agile void]

again, your gun is just helping your spirit

[stable forum]

those are also potentially neat.

[agile void]

you are not using your gun for gun damage

it is not the point

[stable forum]

...you're using your gun to proc your on hit effect

yes, she's never ever going to build gun damage >.>

[agile void]

dauntless, respectfully

do you think mina can go gun?

like, fully gun, no spirit, just gun

[stable forum]

...mina builds rof

i don't know if she can go full rof

[agile void]

you are arguing that a hero that causes on hit spirit effect will go full gun

mina has the worst gun scaling in the game, if you are building gun its for either your spike or get the fire rate

[stable forum]

...weh??

I've been saying that

[agile void]

you are not building for the direct damage of your gun

[stable forum]

okay, I consider Mina to be an M1 hero, even if she's not building gun damage

that's probably what the mismatch is here?

[agile void]

no

you are arguing that just because celeste can do a on hit effect to people affected by her 1 she is going to be a gun hero

she is not

[agile rune]

hey you're talking in circles

you're not convincing each other and I suggest y'all drop it and move on with you day

[agile void]

I understand

[agile rune]

so, folks, now that the newest batch of heroes are here, anyone got a stand out favourite of the bunch?

[agile void]

rem

50 games on him already, had to queue up as seven and haze to get him though

[stable forum]

I very much like Silver but that was probably obvious.

it's fun to play an... offensive tank??

i'm not really sure how to put it. She's sort of assassiney, sort of tankey. high mobility + a bunch of disruption is fun to play with!

abrams is kinda similar I guess

[feral umbra]

I like most of their designs, Graves and Apollo can get kicked into a jet engine though

Venator is the only one besides Graves I've had a chance to acutally use

[stable forum]

does celeste have longer heavy melee range than other people?

[agile void]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1r8ooln/deadlock_night_shift_26_hero_priority/

[feral umbra]

probably, she has everything else, why not a longer range heavy like Abrams

[stable forum]

huh celeste no longer always banned

abrams has a longer ranged heavy??

huh

also silver high priority

[earnest verge]

A somewhat underperforming but very first safe pick aiui

though I always recommend against reading too much into nightshift

the players there definitely are way better than we are and know more than we do, but compared to something like Dota, the sample size is just a lot smaller and the competition not quite as intense

[stable forum]

that makes sense, yeaa

from the comments I read, it looks like she's being picked as 'safe frontliner / main tank'

idk if 'main tank' is the right word

safe frontliner is probably more correct

[agile rune]

also because they are better, their opponents also are, so they're planning for and around stuff that realistically may not be relevant in our games

[earnest verge]

yeah there's also that, thus the lack of Victors and Mo's haha

(both of whom otherwise still perform really well at Eternus)

[agile void]

also apparently despite silver being first pick, based on the comments she was just getting rolled constantly

https://youtube.com/shorts/R0o2XMz9-10

[agile void]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1r8aq4p/walking_piñata/

I wonder more how you can get 7.3k souls so quickly

[warm sonnet]

Stolen bags

[undone galleon]

its probably not a good sign for my laptop that it lags to fuck the moment the city comes into view from the hub

i get the immersion reasons for the hideout but lemme just have a menu man

wait nvm it just needed to adjust wahoo i can deadlock normalish

[warm sonnet]

Yeah, I get a big ol' stutter when I first load the game up since all the assets are getting pre-loaded

[astral lava]

same

[undone galleon]

ok now it crashes lmao

[astral lava]

I like to walk in and kill Abrams and break boxes just to make sure its loaded as much as possible

[undone galleon]

nodnod

[ivory reef]

I think you kinda are letting metrics get you down yeah

[agile void]

there is the piggy config

[ivory reef]

Like bluntly that's what's happening here. In dota we have this running joke called the maelk award

[agile void]

https://youtu.be/16UvyR0jksI

[ivory reef]

Where you go 0/20 and then win the international

[undone galleon]

whazzat

at the very least it seems to exclusively be a hideout problem which means i can play the game

[ivory reef]

Incredible incredible support play

[agile void]

I think I recently heard there was a league team with a guy that went like

0/26

he was just running it down lanes, but that was the strategy

[ivory reef]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/fcampj/finally_after_all_these_years_i_have_won_the/

It's an achievement for sure

[agile void]

he was a glorified hard tropper that the enemy had to contest always

so they ended up winning by him running it down

[warped ridge]

Doorman is cool because you can 100% support regardless of where you're at soul wise.

And honestly it's a lot of chars. Yes some chars perform better with souls but any char with dedicated cc ults will always be useful in teamfights

[warm sonnet]

Mo & Krill 😌

[warped ridge]

Like even a mina who is super behind has a really useful ult

[warm sonnet]

So much sand

[warped ridge]

It suppresses

Err

Silences

[warm sonnet]

Suppression is only 1600 souls away

[astral lava]

League player detected! Get 'im!

[warm sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-monkey-run-monkeys-everywhere-randomchimpevent-gif-18502038

[warped ridge]

Unfortunately my brain thinks suppresses cause I think shooters

I actually don't even remember what the terms are called in league

[warm sonnet]

I was about to say that they should add a character with an LMG, but that's McGuggis

[astral lava]

some day they'll add an earthshaker type support freak let me make big ass walls. let me echo slam

[warm sonnet]

McGuggis for the first

[astral lava]

different kind of wall

[warm sonnet]

But the latter is yet unfulfilled

They should add a straight up Wizard with a capital VV

[astral lava]

we've got vampire werewolf and Frankenstein. we almost have sea monster (fathom). Who will be the mummy of deadlock

[vivid nimbus]

Mirage is already desert themed

[vivid nimbus]

With like a wide-brimmed hat and shooting lightning from his hands?

[warm sonnet]

Has a tower in pittsburgh (rented)
Is paying off his tuition
Makes counterfeit spells to pad out his 9 to 5 paycheck
Majored in Pyromancy and Fissile Geomancy (claims uranium is a potent source of energy)(is dismissed for his useless majors)
OSIC once investigated him as a child for ordering reagents used in forbidden spells (it was for forbidden spells)
Wears a robe (bath) and a wide-brimmed hat (rains a lot) and got to the ritual at the last minute

[warm sonnet]

YES

I can see it

I was thinking more fireballs

and a staff

of course

[astral lava]

he's desert but he's not mummy. we need a guy with bandages

[warm sonnet]

Seven

He does it all

[astral lava]

(suddenly remembers that ravens ult was a cursed Egyptian canopic jar(

[vivid nimbus]

Okay yeah I dig this too, it's got a bit of Unseen University feel to it

[warm sonnet]

Rincewind 😌

Once UNNAMED WIZARD GUY completes the ritual, he'll finally prove the existence of the nebulous atom

Actually, druids haven't gotten proper Deadlock rep

Gimme a dude who summons rats onto people by throwing a fistful of oats at them

[agile void]

Im surprised we got first Punk hero rather than a rockstar

wasnt rock started around the 20s?

[warm sonnet]

Ye, but I don't think Deadlockia is bound to our explicit cultural development

I can see a lot of kids being angry when their grandparents milk the afterlife for money and leave nothing for them

[astral lava]

there's voicelines calling out a druid in several heroes

[agile void]

there is also succubus/cadence

[undone galleon]

isnt one of the unreleased heroes like

a sanitation service druid

[still swan]

Finding i enjoy Apollo

[undone galleon]

fcuk me i cant unhear the hidden king rap video whenever the music crops up

[warm sonnet]

He is low-key evil

[still swan]

https://bsky.app/profile/youreashotgun.bsky.social/post/3meh36drg7c2k this one?

youreashotgun (@youreashotgun.bsky.social)

if they put me on the hidden king track

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[median lantern]

Oh I’m familiar with this kind of feeling, your wage is in anguish not points

Uh play with allchat on and say things like “:^)” or “better luck next time!” After big plays in it

[warped ridge]

Does

Does that not affect behavior score in Dota?

Like I know it's not in deadlock right now

[median lantern]

Those are nice things to say!

[lavish grove]

Insane aura- IS THAT FUCKING GORDON FREEMAN?!

[warped ridge]

I mean

Not for nothing but I've been actively scared of saying gg sometimes due to it being considered toxic

[warm sonnet]

Eeeh

Unless it was a horrible stomp, it's just good manners and practice

[vivid nimbus]

"gg" is not toxic, "gg ez" is

[warm sonnet]

Ya

Unless you lost

Then it's stupid

[vivid nimbus]

Even in a horrible stomp some people just say gg reflexivly

[warped ridge]

I mean yeah some of my games are

[warm sonnet]

At least their habits have manners

[warped ridge]

It's just there's like

[warm sonnet]

For you?

[warped ridge]

1-2 players on the enemy team who don't get stomped

[warm sonnet]

As in you're stomping em scrubbitos?

[vivid nimbus]

Okay exception, if you say gg before the game is actually over

[warm sonnet]

Oooh that's annoying

[median lantern]

Yeah the rudeness of GG is basically inversely proportional to how obviously over the game is

[warped ridge]

I do when it's brawl and we got dog walked and they're 75% done with 3rd tower

But I admit I am being defeatist there

[median lantern]

GG moments before the end - good practice
GG on lane opponent first blood? Lmao you better be good for it bro

[vivid nimbus]

Yeah if it's while the patron or brawl walker is about to die in moments that's not what I mean

[warm sonnet]

Yeah, early game whinging is the issue

[vivid nimbus]

I mean like saying gg after first blood or a good/bad teamfight

[median lantern]

I’m gonna start saying jungle diff if I get good rotations

[warm sonnet]

Jungle diff while playing scrabble

[warped ridge]

I 1v1'd their entire team back to back minus Venator and Paige repeatedly.

Like, I'm not gonna describe it how you did because I was explicitly told by a mod not to do that.

But it was that bad

Hence why I almost didn't say GG but that Venator was one of the better ones I've ran into

And not saying it felt more disrespectful to him and the Paige than saying it and being disrespectful towards the rest of their team

[warm sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

Honestly, a GG in that case isn't bad imo

The closer you are to the end screen, the more neutral gg becomes

[warped ridge]

I try to think about it earnestly when it's a normals match

Cause again, I'm trying not to be toxic

In brawl I'll say it more freely cause it's brawl and matches arent that serious anyways

[still swan]

I feel like as Apollo I often end up getting dragged alone and then being swarmed

Though I may just be bad

[warped ridge]

Are you playing with a stack? Cause it changes how you gotta operate yeh

[earnest verge]

that's a lot of movement and positioning and awareness on both your part and the part of your team that goes into that

regardless of stack/no stack tbh

[still swan]

Define stack

[warped ridge]

I wouldn't say bad, playing solo is legit opening up yourself to being baited by your team.

It def happens

[still swan]

Not familiar with a lot of moba lingo admittedly

Oh I play Solo

[warped ridge]

Yeah so like

[earnest verge]

Stack just changes how you communicate around it

[median lantern]

Yeah getting a knack for positioning and how far you can push is a weird ephemeral skill which very much exists and is hard to describe

Outside of weird platitudes like “look at the mini map more”

[still swan]

I also sometimes get eager when an enemy is almost dead and then get carried away trying to finish them

Which is my bad

[warped ridge]

Yeah that's just greed which happens

It's def a learnable thing to figure out how feel and when to greed

[earnest verge]

Yeah naw classic mistake

[still swan]

I do often check the minimap

Like I always keep an eye on it

[warped ridge]

Minimap is def super valuable

Also gotta like

[agile void]

on the topic of gg

[warped ridge]

Learn in a match how trustworthy are your teammates

[agile void]

you can just add "wp"

"GGWP"

[median lantern]

This just makes it more of whatever it was though

[earnest verge]

just communicate earnestly and politely it's not that hard

[still swan]

There was a match I was in a few days ago where the enemy was announcing their plans... to everyone

On the all chat

[warped ridge]

Like if a teammate pings an enemy that's low, do they go in? Do they not do anything? What do they do, etc

[still swan]

Got it

[median lantern]

50/50 that’s bait

[earnest verge]

Yeah people may give you shit sometimes, but that's impossible to avoid

[still swan]

I dont often type but I do use the m3 voice choice thing

[warped ridge]

Wait are you using voice or

[still swan]

I always let people know where I'm going

[agile void]

I sometimes just ping to inform here they are

[warped ridge]

Gotcha yeah that's good

[still swan]

No the voiceline selection thing

Dunno what the technical name is

[median lantern]

Comms wheel I think?

[agile void]

sometimes just knowing where is the carry is enough to start something in the map

[merry verge]

If I heard someone trying to stop my jungle stealing but we don't encounter eachother I might hit them with a 'hey Shiv' after

[warped ridge]

Yeah it's a very particular thing you gotta be mindful of. I had a McGinnis unintentionally bait me into a low Billy because she pinged him and then ran towards him but suddenly backpedaled after I had gotten too close.

It just happens and you learn to roll with it

Hence why communication gets a bit scuffed without voice chat specifically cause pings can mean several different things

[still swan]

Als need to get better at parrying

Question actually

Do passives that proc on parries activate with Apollo's parry ability?

Or just regular parries

[agile void]

I

dont know

actually

I will be surprised if rebuttal affects his 2

[warped ridge]

I would assume regular parries only but it's a good question, let me check wiki

[agile void]

since that is specifically a melee thing

and riposte can actually trigger off bullet

[still swan]

Regardless need to learn to parry better, especially as Apollo

I do enjoy playing Apollo but I'm still learning him

[warped ridge]

Wiki doesn't say anytning insofar I can tell but I'd still would want to test it in game

[agile void]

no one has mastered the new characters yet

[still swan]

First match I had was miserable, only tried him again because a lot of people wer kicking my ass with him and figured it was worth another try

[agile void]

everyone is still learning

[still swan]

And I enjoyed him more once learning him a bit

[lavish grove]

Nah, I have

every one

[merry verge]

Thousands of matches in the mind palace

[warped ridge]

I'm the only person in my games using silver's 2 for vertical movement so yeah there's still tech people aren't messing with

[lavish grove]

Oh, you want me to spectate your match? Apologies, I’ve already run a simulation of how it will go in my mind. Maybe buy monster rounds next time

[agile void]

isnt toxic bullets lowkey one of the best gun items for apollo?

[warped ridge]

Toxic bullets my favorite gun item

I should make a copy paste for it

[lavish grove]

Honestly I don’t see much of a reason to buy any gun items on Apollo

Besides like, maybe an early games monster rounds

Or mystic shot

Definitely not any tier 3s

[still swan]

Does Apollo even use bullets

Does his sword projectile thing counts as bullets or spirit

I get confused with that for some characters

Like Celeste

[lavish grove]

They’re bullets

[still swan]

Got it

Good to know

[lavish grove]

No character doesn’t scale with bullets

[still swan]

Fair

[lavish grove]

Even if some also scale with spirit because of some passive they have

[still swan]

I guess i just see a "magical" weapon and assume "hey its magical so its spirit not bullet"

If that makes sense

[lavish grove]

Yah

[still swan]

Celeste, Apollo, Drifter, etc

[lavish grove]

Yah, despite seeming magic

They’re all using guns

[still swan]

I gotcha

Good to clarify though

[lavish grove]

You can’t see them but drifter has 5 1911s built into both hands

[still swan]

Regardless, Apollo seems like a character who can be really good with some skill and knowledge

But difficult to play without that

[lavish grove]

Yah

[median lantern]

I swear I’m not being mean but what characters are good with minimal skill and knowledge?

[lavish grove]

His in fight mobility is kinda crazy

[still swan]

Fair

[lavish grove]

Graves

[still swan]

I guess i mean more of like

A higher skill floor than normal

[median lantern]

🗒️

[lavish grove]

Also yah Apollo is genuinely one of the harder characters in the game

[warped ridge]

Knowledge in which way?

[median lantern]

I haven’t really played deadlock since I got in and then got the flu lol

[lavish grove]

You really need to understand his mobility options and manage your cooldowns to do anything with him

He’s a burst character through and through

[still swan]

Yeah

[merry verge]

Now that he's not slamming out 5.0 spirit ratios every 10 seconds Apollo is maybe the toughest-.. nah Holliday still

[warped ridge]

Like if you have macro knowledge you theoretically can split push with any char as long as it doesnt put you in too high mmr games

[still swan]

I do like his triple stab option

[lavish grove]

He goes in, does his big combo, and then is super vulnerable for like 8 seconds late game

[still swan]

That one is fun

[lavish grove]

Which like, late game

Is an eternity

[warped ridge]

For me if you asked me

[lavish grove]

An Abrams can run you down and beat you to death in 5

[still swan]

Also his ult seems like something you gotta set up for

[lavish grove]

Actually not particularly

You just have to use it as a finisher at the end

[still swan]

Especially given it does more damage for those low with health

Fair

[lavish grove]

Since it’s an execute

[still swan]

Fair

Still feels like it requires some setup or at leasy awareness

[merry verge]

You can use it to start and end fights thing is up every minute

( it's an execute though )

[still swan]

Mhm

[warped ridge]

I'd say like, Mo and Krill, Bebop as long as you can land the hooks, Graves/McGinnis for safe splitpushing

[median lantern]

Game knowledge? I’m not talking about like unrelated stuff I guess

[warped ridge]

Oh uhh

Yeah Mo and Krill only then I feel

[median lantern]

Though I suppose “which deadlock character is best for me if I’m illiterate?” Is funny

[merry verge]

Seven seems solid for that

[warped ridge]

All of them if you can understand the pictures

[still swan]

Seven is my main for a reason :v

Just upgrade your balls and toss them

[merry verge]

Shoot orbs, become orb

[median lantern]

just upgrade your balls

Incredible out of context

[agile void]

mostly said it because you could technically skip healbane on him for toxic bullets, helps that toxic is % health so the tick is "always" relevant

[warped ridge]

Yeah Mo and Krill or Seven with builds with no actives

[still swan]

How trustable is the build sharing thing btw

[warped ridge]

Except maybe refresher for Seven

[still swan]

Since that's where I find most of my builds

Dunno how reliable it is though

[agile void]

functionally, not trustable at all

in the sense that everyone will hover specific builds for any number of reasons

[still swan]

Fair

[agile void]

not just because its good

[still swan]

Any recommendations on figuring out builds then?

[lavish grove]

My main thought is that his gun is both pretty slow firing and doesn’t do much damage, so the build up would be really long, especially with how you can’t shoot while casting his abilities

[agile void]

wait cant you shoot while in 3?

[vivid nimbus]

If you're a caster you usually prefer healbane over toxic bullets, yeah

[lavish grove]

During the recast period but not when you’re actually dashing around

[vivid nimbus]

But if you're someone like wraith or seven you could go either toxic or healbane

[lavish grove]

Also yah, healbane might just be better anyway. It’s cheaper and Apollo prefers green stats anyway

[merry verge]

Post mortem Heal gets you out of a lot of Situations too

[agile void]

I do think at that point it depends on testing, I have seen some apollos get toxic actually

[still swan]

Apollo's 3 counts as spirit damage right?

[lavish grove]

Yah

[vivid nimbus]

All four of his buttons do spirit

[lavish grove]

All of his abilities are

[agile void]

you could always check the pin link and see what deathy suggest

[warped ridge]

Oh it's year of the horse huh?

[still swan]

Thanks

[agile void]

but for me, those builds tend to lack because not many of them have annotations

for example seven builds either intensifying mag or fleetfoot

intensifying is to magdump someone non stop, fleetfoot is to do the slide tech between burst to have functionally infinite ammo

[still swan]

The seven build I use/found does annotate stuff, which helps with decisions

Is Monster Bullets something you should prioritize early btw?

For laning

[agile void]

its good if you want to just shove waves

it depends entirely if you want to force the enemy to fight under tower or just kill them

[still swan]

Fair

[merry verge]

Also helps contend against strong pushing from the enemy team

[finite patrol]

don't feel bad about that. doorman is not a scoreboard character

doorman is about getting up to your evil mischief

if you've vexed them you've won

[stray arch]

There’s no metric that the game gives you to show the impact of Doorman pissing off the enemy team

But if you hooked up a BP and heart rate monitor you’d get to see the ways they make certain folks lose their minds and tilt

[finite patrol]

yeah im pretty sure that in one of our games last night the enemy paradox shouted at you when you vexed them

thats a W baybee

[terse aspen]

I thought all chat was that metric

[merry verge]

Getting a 'Doorman let me PLAY THE GAME'

[warped ridge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/s/DojHnt3QmN

Honestly still not entirely sure how unsecured souls work

[finite patrol]

You get them from jungle camps / sinners. they slowly become secured over time. you drop them if you die. you spend them last.

thats it

[finite patrol]

someone needs to know they can use helpers to buy from the shop!

[ivory reef]

oh hey is eskay trans

neat

[bleak thicket]

does monster roudns actually work on turrets?
testing it in sandbox
normal hit on a trooper goes from 8-9 to 11-12
hit on a turret goes from 6-8 to 6-8
im not sold on monster rounds being a counter to the turrets

ok no it does work

just need to test with someone that has higher damage per bullet

[finite patrol]

lmao

[granite heath]

So does the turret have innate resistance?

(Haven't played McGinnis in a while, and can't check in game right now.)

[bleak thicket]

it does take a bit less bullet damage than troopers

so maybe?

[magic summit]

Yes.

[warped ridge]

Eskay sounds familiar

[still swan]

What are Jungle Camps? Are they those weird alien things around the map?

[somber creek]

Yea

[vivid nimbus]

TF2, Overwatch, Rivals, Street Fighter, Tekken

[somber creek]

Every neutral creep but mid

Is a jungle camp

[still swan]

Gotcha

[ivory reef]

oh helly eah

subbed

[warped ridge]

Oh she grinded for top 1k or whatever in Arc Raiders. Probably saw her name fly by that way when Arc raiders subs were still populating my reddit feed

[warped ridge]

I might have seen her name show up in fg over a few years ago but that was before I gave up fighting games

So Idk, last fg stuff I remember is like

Sajim, KBDs for Tekken, and a really really long 300 video Playlist of a guy giving an introduction for new people to Tekken

Well

[vivid nimbus]

She got involved in FG stuff pretty recently, like a year or two ago. She is in Sajam's social circle tho

[warped ridge]

Then probably not from that and prob from the Arc Raiders thing at some point

Or idk maybe she showed up in cheating/aim training sub but if she played OW and Rivals it wouldn't be aim training, it would be cheating sub

[vivid nimbus]

I think she was in the first or second Sajam Slam and then got hooked?

[warped ridge]

And it would be the usual like

"They think this Rivals player is cheating" with like, all the comments going, "no Rivals players just underestimate how good people can be at aiming"

Which yeah it was wild seeing how many cheater accusations were flying but given how I called a cheater playing OW idk how many times before I even got good at aiming I think it's just cultural dissonance or w/e from not playing pvp shooters

[warped ridge]

Nah I never watched those, I only watched news/tutorial vids

But again fighting games were like

Unhealthy for me cause I never got good approach to community playing

[terse aspen]

Yeah. When I used to play Hunt: Showdown, I would joke that the highest tier players in that game could out-shoot an aimbot. It's truly impressive how good someone can get at a shooter without cheating.

[vivid nimbus]

Eskay's Deadlock vids have also been posted a few times in the last month, you might've just seen those

[warped ridge]

I've only watched Leif and Deathly(I think Deathly? Idk) for Deadlock

[median lantern]

Esp in this modern age of mainstream trainers

[warped ridge]

The truth is at this point, unless you are looking at pro play, you only need to do aimtraining to gold on a good aim training thing like with what Cyan said.

And you would never need to aim train again to reach high ranks

Once you get gold most aim training community agrees anything else preventing ranking up in a game is game knowledge

You can have near aimbot levels of aim but nothing will save you if you 1v3 in a swing in valorant

If you ever were curious Google uhhh

[vivid nimbus]

It kinda depends on the game too, like lower TTK games benefit more from aim skill

[warped ridge]

Blep was hoping you could look at Voltaic without joining their discord server

As it's a bit hard to navigate IMO

[warped ridge]

Yes 100%

[terse aspen]

Yeah, and the same is true of Hunt. What really allows the high-tier players to beat cheaters isn't aim training (although that is a factor), it's map knowledge and ability to judge position based on sound cues so that they can land headshots through walls.

[warped ridge]

Also games like extrac---yeah exactly

[vivid nimbus]

Map/game knowledge can get goofy because you see players lobbing nades at popular rollout routes, completely blind off nothing but the spawn/round timer

[warped ridge]

Streamers beat cheaters in tarkov by using face shields and sound queuing out cheater locations

[median lantern]

Not necessarily but yeah, there’s that interesting “objectively bad ttk” study relating to that

[warped ridge]

Happens all the time in tarkov, why tarkov is not a game I recommend

[median lantern]

Broadly speaking higher ttk makes very good aim more important but this is not quite true because CS exists

[warped ridge]

Ooooo. Do you have that one?

I can see like, low ttk negatively affecting stuff like Siege if attacker/defender stuff gets weird

Esp with abilities thrown into the mix

[ivory reef]

aim skill is complicated

there's flicking and tracking

low ttk rewards flicking and high ttk rewards tracking

[median lantern]

https://youtu.be/t7HjMvAwBeY

The short of it is that very short TTKs (less than 300 ms) encourage tactical play and prefiring and such, and long TTKs (501+ ms) encourage strong mechanics and tracking

And 300-500 ms TTKs are objectively bad

[warped ridge]

Aimtrainers made a new mix called "switching" I think? I'd have to pull up the name

But it's basically for games like Battlefield with high enough ttk that you need to track but low enough ttk that you suddenly would need to flick to other targets nearby.

Mix as in, "they made specific scenarios for it"

[finite patrol]

meanwhile deadlock with its 5 second ttk:

[median lantern]

Deadlock is also funky since hitscan is rare and people are fast

Reminds me of a less extreme Tribes

[merry verge]

Deadlock has a 1 to 60 second ttk

[terse aspen]

Yeah, meaning that leading the target also gets introduced

[finite patrol]

counting harass in my ttk

(im goofing its obviously not so simple)

[warped ridge]

Yeah they call it switching

Also they call the two styles of mouse control tracking and clicking

[warped ridge]

Interesting and yeah I can see it

I'll need to actually watch the video when I have time

[agile void]

I think you are getting confused

the extra damage is probably coming from the gun investment

[bleak thicket]

oh
ye lemme test that too :o

[agile void]

also It says that in the deadlock wiki that it doesnt affect mcginnis turrets but that is probably something worth checking later

https://deadlock.wiki/Monster_Rounds

use someone like geists who has high gun damage per bullet

[bleak thicket]

youre right
it was the gun investment

my initial hunch was right

ye i was using holliday

[finite patrol]

so monster rounds still good against mcginnis since it helps depush but not for that reason

[agile void]

not really, it just gives you more damage by virtue of it being a gun item

[bleak thicket]

it helps against troopers

[agile void]

I feel that now with graves existing and the buffed rem troopers

they should probably take a look at monster rounds and see if it should affect those

[finite patrol]

this is what I was referring to jaacker

[agile void]

I mean yeah, but it wont change a thing if mcginnis is already at your walker

she will throw a turret to bait the beam then keep pressing M1

[bleak thicket]

this was all in the context of spirit mcginnis

so she wouldnt have as much m1

[agile void]

mmmm

still, I dont know if the spectral heal is affected by antiheal on the turrets

because that is normally the reason why mcginnis turrets take so long to kill

[bleak thicket]

idk
but spectral heal doesnt really keep turrets alive against them getting actually targeted

not even with the 5 point upgrade

it helps against troopers and neutrals

and maybe guardians

[finite patrol]

u have decision points that can prevent that before it happens

[vestal hearth]

https://youtube.com/shorts/8myLsGXLiKM?si=Ql0s2N8XdYGCknjP

[autumn field]

Silver is so real for preferring to kill god over doing laundry

[finite patrol]

I did my laundry and cleaned the kitchen last night after working for a full day which means that I am more powerful than Silver.

[dusky flume]

I would do laundry for Silver

[somber creek]

I wouldnt

[final osprey]

Washerfolk before 1873 be like:

[somber creek]

I want the smell

[lavish grove]

Were washing machines a thing in the 1940s?

[lavish grove]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEAL

[rich grove]

😭

I spray you all with a hose

[dusky flume]

What did I do?!

[lavish grove]

Caught in the crossfire

An unfortunate casualty of war

[final osprey]

I'm sorry, I won't make jokes about the falling of silver as common currency again.

[merry verge]

anti-groschen sentiments v-v

[somber creek]

Listen I could have made it so much worse by saying "stink" but my filter kicked in

[warped ridge]

Anyone else notice what I noticed?

[rich grove]

the smell is almost worse because it's too clinical

[warped ridge]

Could have used aroma

Or fragrance if you want to get fancy

Bottle it up

And sell it to people

[dusky flume]

I would never smell Silverstink

I support good hygiene

[still swan]

The Hidden King rap brainrot has infected me

[median lantern]

im lowkey evil

[finite patrol]

stop smelling the heroes

[vivid nimbus]

Bouquet

[somber creek]

I have the mod for it

So every time I get HK I get to hear YEA
YEA

Im the hidden king

[terse aspen]

Does someone have the video? I want to send it to my brother

[median lantern]

https://youtu.be/rwAg0klZlAA

[terse aspen]

Thanks

[dusky flume]

oh my fucking god

this is art

[lavish grove]

Chat, how do I access commands?

[still swan]

Mouse 3

https://bsky.app/profile/gingy707.bsky.social/post/3mf67etgwos2z

Gingy707 (@gingy707.bsky.social)

Patrons need you to lock in.

#deadlock #gingyart #hiddenking #archmother

-# Gingy707 (@gingy707.bsky.social)
The Hidden King is such a cool design.

#deadlock #hiddenking #art #gingyart

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Bluesky · Feb 18, 2026, 11:13 PM

[warped ridge]

F7

Wait

Dev console commands?

[lavish grove]

No I mean console commands

[lavish grove]

Thanks

[warped ridge]

Ye

[frail jasper]

Yeah the hidden king track is a banger, and this guy nails the delivery of the I'm low key evillllll

I actually figured out how to do that kinda throat resonance some years ago, it's fun to play with

[finite patrol]

voice training to become more monstrous and villainous sounding

[warm sonnet]

Terrorizing Treament

[autumn field]

pocket is fun

pretty damn good in brawl

Deadass only dying cuz my keeb keeps disconnecting

Only issue with pocket is theyre not that great at early

[vestal hearth]

Could have been odor.

[finite patrol]

they're *

[somber creek]

They them ya

[autumn field]

FUCK

[still swan]

Was reminded of this

[vast sandal]

This is how she died

Also: Seven’s still got the hood and most of the execution apparatus fused to him huh

[rich grove]

yeah it's swag

[lavish grove]

I love pocket’s face here

So much

They look so tired

[finite patrol]

its my favourite deadlock image

[vast sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-deadlock-viscous-deadlock-soul-urn-deadlock-urn-deadlock-viscous-urn-gif-4206966690510218153

Mine is this

[frail jasper]

This sound, though I didn't do pitch changing and other stuff for this recording cuz i was in public at the time and I'm not someone to draw that kinda weirdo attention

[lavish grove]

Also Chatroom, I kinda like how Geist is like, a little dumb

[vast sandal]

Ffffucking Viscous

[lavish grove]

She’s the only person who doesn’t recognize pocket as arin

And she’s someone who actually would know them

Like she almost certainly met them alongside Maximilian

[vast sandal]

Idk if she’s dumb so much as she blatantly doesn’t give a shit about her high society social circles

There’s a lot of other conversations and lines where it becomes pretty clear she does NOT like or care about most of the people she supposedly knows

[lavish grove]

I mean there are a few things of her not noticing stuff other characters do

[vast sandal]

Yeah she’s just kinda self-absorbed

[lavish grove]

Funniest example is the vyper “of course this is a threat I’m gonna mug the shit out of you after this is over”

[lavish grove]

Also still it’s one thing to not recognize arin, but it’s another to buy their obvious lie as one of the random urchins she helped once

[vast sandal]

also

the best Geist interaction by far is Billy talking mad shit all the time about how she's a stupid, useless idle rich woman (all things that are true probably)

and then witnessing The Unmitigated Power of Oathkeeper and going "holy shit maybe I don't want the smoke after all"

[lavish grove]

Is that his reaction to her ult?

[lavish grove]

Fair reactions

Also chat, anyone got a pocket build?

I wanna learn em

[vast sandal]

escalating exposure and diviner's kevlar are your friends

early Mystic Expansion on your 1 is really good to consistently land Barrage shots so you can get Pocket damage, obviously you want CDR because less cooldowns is more Pocket Gaming, early you're extra fragile to enemy spirit damage so watch out for that and maybe buy you some greens first if you're in a lane with heavy Spirit pokes or you'll get pushed out pretty easy, Majestic Leap is a core survivability item for Pocket thanks to the jump putting you in position for Barrage really well and you might want Glorp Stone as well for doing ya thing, since you're putting yourself at a lot of risk with your ult

[autumn field]

Actually does pocket even take healing

I know Diviners Kevlar is pretty damn nice

And you probably want to have Spellbreaker or Plated in your build as a flex counter

[lavish grove]

I always took spirit lifesteal on them

[vast sandal]

Lightning Scroll big as a luxury buy since it turns Affliction into a stun as well as a nuke

[lavish grove]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

Do I focus on upgrading the ult or my other abilities?

[vast sandal]

your ult is devastating in a full teamfight but I wouldn't save ability points for it when you can just be killing motherfuckers in lane with your 123 combos

[lavish grove]

Alright

[magic summit]

But that doesnt work

[vast sandal]

?

[magic summit]

Lightning scroll doesnt work on pocket

[vast sandal]

the fuck

oh what the hell

does the initial burst that applies Affliction also not count

[magic summit]

Upgrade cloak and satchel to 2, then upgrade barrage and affliction to 2, then upgrade either barrage or affliction max next.

[magic summit]

No

[vast sandal]

wow, that sucks lmao

[finite patrol]

that doesnt make much sense to me

[vast sandal]

I guess it's to keep Affliction from proccing Spirit Burn and so on

so you can't just mass kill with it, because Affliction is supposed to be nonlethal

[granite heath]

I thought it could proc Spirit Burn

[magic summit]

It could for roughly 3 hours

Right when the item was added

[granite heath]

oh lol

[magic summit]

They removed that shit fast

Sad I only got one game in of that

I will note on Pocket is that you are remarkably flexible in anything you choose to buy and a lot of builds will recommend a lot of different stuff

I myself hard rush Majestic leap cold front healbane because my purpose in life is murder and I wish to expedite the process

[rich grove]

can we get a majjers in the chat

[mossy lance]

a lil maj

[dusky flume]

what does meijers have to do with anything?

[autumn field]

I met a Drifter in a doll server and now we’re just like

Drifter sounds

It’s so fucking hilarious to me

[finite patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[autumn field]

drifter

[dusky flume]

Being a doll must be fun

[autumn field]

truth

[late hare]

is Pocket good for AOE casting like Geist or Viscous? I don't really know how they work personally, but I could probably stand to pick up a fourth character I'm halfway decent on with my godawful FPS

they strike me as someone who kinda wants to Go In, which isn't really my strong suit considering

[merry verge]

Pocket's definitely a goes-in type, the bombs are really more for getting the damage self-buff

AoE but two of them burst from your player model

[autumn field]

I’ve been playing some Pocket recently and I see the way they’re played is something like, jump in, get out

[autumn field]

3 technically, since the cloak is an AoE line

But pocket has the most escape tools out of like, anyone I think

Between briefcase and teleport

[late hare]

dang

[autumn field]

They’re kinda like Lash I guess

[merry verge]

( They're :p )

[autumn field]

I keep fucking

Gahhhh

I can’t fucking remember pronouns at all

[raven spindle]

it's alright, at least you make an effort to self-correct-

[merry verge]

always tough to watch a Pocket's escape coat get snagged on a fence

'Well, y'tried' /reloading noise

[autumn field]

I’m gonna be your bop the way I uppercut ya with a 1500 damage bomb before yoinking you back in cuz I hit da echo shard

[merry verge]

Second Grab has to be one of the most mentally damaging moves that can happen to a person

[dusky flume]

I have the urge to yeet people

[merry verge]

Melee Charge sure makes baiting parries easy peasy, a few 650 damage stakes and people get real nervous and quick about it

(shotgun Venator remains a good time)

regular style definitely more consistent but then you don't get to twoshot Haze

[magic summit]

You have very little ability to poke like Geist or Viscous does. Barrage is too slow to reliably hit from far away because they can just, see it coming, and it only goes in a straight line, then Cloak can be used like that but it is your escape tool and you are one of the squishiest characters in the game

[merry verge]

What're they at, -15% Spirit Resist?

[magic summit]

The bright side is that while they do want to go in you are the best person at going in and just vacating the area if you don't like how it looks

And yes. They and Celeste are the only two characters with negative resist

And Pocket shares a health scaling pool with Grey Talon, for a comparison of their health

[autumn field]

Thinking about it, lifestrike victor could work well

[magic summit]

How

[autumn field]

Big fucking slow

And more heals

Which means more 3

Which means more murder

[magic summit]

I feel like that is not the best use of your money for how expensive that is

On someone with two other slows in their kit too

[autumn field]

Aside, it’s just a fun item

I like the idea of it

[finite patrol]

its a reasonable pick in street brawl

but yr talking about a character who already kinda wants to chill out until 30-40k souls

he doesnt have that much room for fun ofs

[autumn field]

Yea it’s kinda sad

[finite patrol]

he is the saddest hero

[vast sandal]

had a game where we just kicked the enemy's teeth in as Wraith (me) and Mo and Krill (new player we were chilling with) where we got no kills and beat their brakes off by containing them under guardian for ten whole minutes

[autumn field]

ok damn shiv

i just got a game in

christ he's nasty with full rage

[lavish grove]

Just had maybe the fastest stomp I’ve ever won

27 minutes with a 80K soul lead

[vast sandal]

dayummmn

Pocket seems mad

[lavish grove]

Yah lol

Though them saying that is really funny when they were feeding too

Me and mirage killed them like 7 times in lane lol

[autumn field]

hmmm

so this is a shiv build from deathy's list

im not sure why but im not feeling it

[finite patrol]

that seems good

[lavish grove]

Could replace the berserker with like, spirit burn

Or reverb

Or infuser

Oh also maybe the bullet armor

Unfortunately there’s a lot of bullet resistance shredding in this game

So it’s not super good imo

[dusky flume]

First ever match as Paige

”Cool, I’ll just do a support build and chill, won't expect much, we’re here to have fun”

Kills Mina and Yamato repeatedly

Proceeds to rain death and destruction with the power of reading

Wins

[merry verge]

People downplay Paigedamage and I never understand why

Not crazy spirit scaling but they're Huge and Spirit Shred and Fire Trail and etc etc

[vast sandal]

Paige damage nasty

[dusky flume]

I love when I manage to cover the whole team with ability 2

Always help the homies 😌

[vast sandal]

The secret is that a support is a character who caves the enemy carry’s skull in when you’re laning

That’s the support they’re offering you

And then later on their CC and control is more important because the carry scales better into the late game

[merry verge]

I swear Captivating Read has like an unclear size when she gets Greater Expansion and whatnot, wouldn't mind if the edges were more clear

but might also just be Ping Shenanigans

[lavish shale]

I feel like it always still clips me somehow, even when I dash out

[merry verge]

Ivy's Kudzu has a more defined space and is waaaay less punishing to get a little bit touched by

( Kudzu is still very good do not touch it hates you )

[dusky flume]

It might be early, but I think Paige might be The One

Her whole kit brings me joy

[autumn field]

ok yeah shiv is defo one of those people who i just cant play as well

[rich grove]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Protomen/comments/1r8k9yz/in_valves_new_game_deadlock_the_character_seven/

[merry verge]

Stop trying to make me enjoy Seven, game, he's a nastyman

[rich grove]

I have no clue how to tell when I'm getting value as Shiv or not because what I do seems to have no bearing on the moment to moment gameplay beyond pressing 4 and Axe dunking people sometimes

post-plastic knives patch I really wouldn't have any clue of how the character works

[mint latch]

Getting back on Deadlock after the world's worst first impression

Gonna try out paige

[autumn field]

ok chat i have a question

also, i think im going to main apollo billy graves

maybe someone else for graves

but damn hitting that riposte feels good

[finite grotto]

In the build browser cosmetical and dew are good bases for learning and building pocket!

[raven spindle]

He's the most obvious villain in the entire cast and he is far and away my favorite bc he's such a delightfully catty megalomaniac

[lavish grove]

Oh thanks

[autumn field]

i got stuck in the sewers on apollo 😭

[frail jasper]

what was the question though

[autumn field]

ok

like

is it wrong if you like, ragebait toxic people

not like, tbagging or anything

it's like if i play doorman and i book a toxic player and type "enjoy your stay, Silver"

[frail jasper]

I personally don't think it's necessarily wrong. I do it sometimes. I think it can be done distastefully though, at which point it's just being mean.

I don't usually bother though cuz I'm more concerned about keeping my team's morale and cohesion going. If an enemy is baby raging because they're losing, I might start losing sympathy for them.

[undone galleon]

its funny & thats enough imo

[autumn field]

Ok more specifically I had a match today where I had some toxic Rem and Paige, and they called me cringe/op cuz I won a 2v1 after hitting my spike

[earnest verge]

it may or may not be wrong, but it's definitely bad because what you're supposed to say is "back to your kennel" /s

[autumn field]

I decided to rage bait them until they left

But only as a response to them being toxic

[mild flume]

I have definitely seen people do it as a deliberate strategy but its kinda dubious

I have seen in dota like "ok their mid is real toxic and a rager so everyone tips them if they die ever" used to try make people play bad

[earnest verge]

more seriously it's a waste of time and brainpower, if you're actually that good just roll over them and go about your day

[mild flume]

but I don't really think it like good for the game in general or the mentality and I think you are better off ignoring toxicity

[earnest verge]

it's like, one thing to bait idk nazis or something, it's another thing to bait a raging kid

[autumn field]

Oh yeah this was when it was like, lane was clear, lash just killed the OTHER lane again kinda deal

They kept hating on our lash who was like, 10k ahead and deleting lane

Honestly bit of a waste of time

[earnest verge]

i think if you're not dead and the game isn't paused and you're typing in all-chat, odds are you're probably doing something wrong one way or the other tbh

Like, seconds matter in this game, and beyond the immaturity of it in the general case, you're actively playing worse and sabotaging yourself if you do it

And even if the game is paused, you're going out of your way to add a bit of asshole energy to the world

so uh long answer short and serious: it's a social situation and those are inherently tricky, but also, in a game like this, it never hurts to veer on the side of shutting up and playing.

[autumn field]

Fair enough

I’m really big on Apollo now

current build used

it's damn good but not in l->r order imo

this is probably better actually

[autumn field]

how am i supposed to kill abrams exactly

[earnest verge]

depends on how he's not dying

are you not doing damage because you're not hitting him, are you not doing damage because of resistance items, are you doing damage but he's outhealing it, are you not doing damage because you're behind?

[mystic breach]

shred and anti-heal I guess as a basic, but like, Abrams is also just about as tough as an actual Abrams tank

[astral lava]

debuff reducer gets you out of his stun faster so you can parry him

he is v v strong tho

[autumn field]

im behind but like

i dont know how in the first place

[finite patrol]

he's probably a lil overtuned rn

[autumn field]

i have enough damage to actually hurt him and win, but he's really hard to 1v1 properly

[rich grove]

anti heal and %hp damage

[autumn field]

or even 2v1, 3v1 really

[rich grove]

shred in the later game

[autumn field]

this match sucked cuz it was rem silver graves abrams gt

[rich grove]

stop chasing him into tiny rooms at all stages of the game

[finite patrol]

spirit burn. decay. toxic bullets. tankbuster.

[rich grove]

people keep doing this and it endlessly baffles me

[autumn field]

it was really hard cuz i think they mightve been a stack or something

just playing at all the right moments together

[vast sandal]

on a winning streak today been slam dunking these fools

got a W on each of the characters I high-prio in a row

[rich grove]

now who am I inting my lobbies with today chat

[vast sandal]

Kelvin

[finite patrol]

the man with no stats...

I suggest gravey

[frail jasper]

healbane, inhibitor, toxic bullets, CC (abilities or items), %hp damage things (decay, toxic bullets, silver's 1), resist shreds

[rich grove]

i play too much kelvin to really int with him

i will play graves in the interim

[final osprey]

Turns out legendaries can be enhanced

[lavish shale]

Damn

[autumn field]

Enhanced piano is so toxic it feels illegal

It’s basically a 6 second stun if you didn’t get counterspell or debuff remover

[lavish shale]

Ah so you just die if you get hit by that

[autumn field]

Personally I’m of the opinion that legendaries should not be enhancable

Either that or you guarantee everyone a legendary

[final osprey]

Dealing 15% of someones health every second does make things a little easy.

[lavish shale]

It is current health at least, but yeah

[autumn field]

I once played against the enhanced piano (it was a Celeste)

I straight up couldn’t play because 20 meters radius, 8 seconds cd, and 3 seconds stun + 3 seconds daze

And even for a Victor it just felt… horrible

[vast sandal]

Arin, your mother and father love you, and would be glad to see you come ho-... [Breaks into laughter] Sorry, I tried, but I couldn’t keep a straight face, you have no home.

Doorman has some fucked up taunts

[lavish shale]

Doorman gets vicious yeah

[vestal hearth]

Would a demoknight-like character work here.

[agile rune]

that line is... out of pocket

[vast sandal]

lol

real

[vast sandal]

demopan is in this game her name is Yamato and she beats you to fucking death

[vestal hearth]

He's lowkey evil.

[vast sandal]

no

that's the Hidden King

[final osprey]

I don't think he's lowkey about it. He's pretty open

[vast sandal]

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2022539513529274372/vid/avc1/864x720/-JVWnhVuko3cZG0L.mp4?tag=14

[mint latch]

I hope they make a mode where one team I just one hero, like a class wars

It'd be real funny to see six Sevens you know

[agile rune]

boo

[mint latch]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-cope-cope-harder-seethe-raoh-gif-23050081

[vestal hearth]

...

That gif...

https://tenor.com/view/golden-wind-jojos-bizarre-adventure-gif-12990580

That's the first thing I thought.

[mint latch]

Fotns is an inspiration to Jojo, yes

[vestal hearth]

That's not what I was thinking...

[mint latch]

What

[rich grove]

https://tenor.com/view/kagurabachi-if-you-laugh-if-you-laugh-you-go-to-hell-kagurabachi-if-you-laugh-speed-gif-7884817524351810051

[agile void]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1r9d39s/bed_time_story/

[bleak thicket]

awwwwwwwwwww

[stable forum]

haze would totally simultaneously be a fed and say 'don't talk to feds'

[agile void]

she knows what is his boss

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1r9gz2v/pov_mina_has_0_stamina_and_skill_2_is_on_cooldown/

well that is a surprise PM community moment

[tacit field]

yeah she knows all the skeletons in the basement and the evil her organisation does because she’s the one doing it

she’s just also still very loyal to them and perceives it as a necessary evil

i’m stuck really liking everything about deadlock and then not being able to run it

[agile void]

and like her conversation to abrams, she knows that they can be out of the line, which hopes that can be changed

[stable forum]

apparently i have a terrible desire to write Fanfiction
specifically an after-the-ritual thingy starring Graves & Abrams in the OSIC. Occult murder mystery

also something something haze's wish was to have all US government politicians, officers, personnel, etcetera magically bound to and obligated towards their oath of office and the constitution. individuals who break this obligation are compelled to resign or something, though they can be reinstated. idk
it would be funny

[agile void]

would probably be more interesting than yet another driftdoor fanfic

(seriously a quarter of the fanfics in ao3 is driftdoor)

[still swan]

Seven was justified in warning Rem about the OSIC

Id argue its one of his few moments where he's actually doing a good deed

[warm sonnet]

He cares about personal goals, and has plausibly learned what compromising them for another may cost you.

[vernal parcel]

Speaking of like the OSIC do you guys think we might ever get another sandman/member of the OSIC

as I kinda want to see what other kind of people the OSIC has to/ is willing to send out to the ritual

[undone galleon]

i imagine we'll get another osic guy

[warm sonnet]

Plausibly, just not a Sandymandy

Curator division maybe?

[vernal parcel]

Maybe special forces or main combatants? As correct me if I'm wrong but aren't sandman(sandmen?) assassins

[undone galleon]

yea sandmen r like a blackops division

[agile void]

we are not even supposed to KNOW the sand men exist

[undone galleon]

tbh im just wondering if theyll bring back the russian guy

cuz 'the soviet empire led by the ghost of catherine the great' is Wildin

[agile void]

I can see them adding more OSIC, but I think they kind of want to touch on a lot of communities first before adding more to a already known faction

[still swan]

What other factions are there? Aside from the Baxter Society

[undone galleon]

the tunnel rats (mo & krill)

[agile void]

technically Wraiths confidants

[undone galleon]

that neo inquisition one

that vindicta's hunting

[agile void]

there is yamato and her yakuza

[undone galleon]

ig the catholic church now w/ venator

[agile void]

now the blackmore academy if they consider bringing more kids from over there

[still swan]

Oh yeah forgot about the Friends of Humanity

Anti-Magic Human Supremacists

[agile void]

most of the chars are kind of by themselves

[undone galleon]

more like theyre v local

[vernal parcel]

There's also the deep with viscus being an emissary of them

[undone galleon]

bebop & lash r both in a fighting ring together frex

[agile void]

I mention wraiths confidants because Abrams, infernus, mnk are with each other most likely

[still swan]

The deep just means the bottom of the ocean iirc

[twilit roost]

There's Paradox, part of a theft club basically for rich kids

[agile void]

fairfax industry

[still swan]

Its a place not necessarily a faction

[undone galleon]

no the deep is in the bermuda specifically iirc

[still swan]

Though I suppose other characters from the deep can show up

[vernal parcel]

Ah my bad then I thought it was like an Atlantis situation

[still swan]

Surprised we don't have a Warlock or Druid character

Well

I suppose Geist and Mirage are warlocks

[agile void]

ivy technically

[undone galleon]

its not a formal organization but its a kind of place where ppl can come from

[lavish grove]

The deep viscous comes from

[undone galleon]

graves is p warlockpilled

[still swan]

True

[lavish grove]

Also the arroyos

[still swan]

She also counts

[lavish grove]

The dad is running for mayor rn

[still swan]

Maybe a Mummy?

Given we have a lot of hammer horror characters

[agile void]

vampire society

[lavish grove]

So he’ll probably be important to the wider New York politics stuff

[undone galleon]

i suppose it scans that theres not much greenery imagery for an urban game

[still swan]

Yeah

We need Slork

Keep Slorkin it

[undone galleon]

viscous is like the closest to True Nature i think

[twilit roost]

I mean a druid who lives in central park could work

[agile void]

Ivy is the closest just for her 1

and tether

[lavish grove]

Unfortunately Central Park is now a portal

[still swan]

Oh idea

[lavish grove]

It was the center of the first big magic event

[still swan]

What about an extradimensional character

[lavish grove]

It doesn’t exist anymore

[agile void]

rem?

[still swan]

Doorman I guess but

Also Rem

[twilit roost]

So you're telling me it's a enchanted forest now right?

[vernal parcel]

Wouldn't rem fit that description since he's from the dream realm

[still swan]

Slenderman

[undone galleon]

also that one prince

[lavish grove]

Nah more like a black hole

[undone galleon]

apollo

[still swan]

Apollo

[lavish grove]

Being near it obliterated Dynamo

[agile void]

literally is the place that dynamo became a black hole

[still swan]

I would say maybe a demon but thats literally Ixians isnt it

[agile void]

its "not hell"

[lavish grove]

Yah ixians are already the demon archetype

[agile void]

venator now makes people wonder if God is a player in the setting

[still swan]

Hmm

What other types of monsters do we not have

[twilit roost]

Well I mean I don't think literally all of central park is a blackhole

[agile void]

inb4 they add a angel

[still swan]

Like Mummies

Dragon? Idk

[lavish grove]

I’m thinking God’s existence is a definite probably

[twilit roost]

The creature from the black lagoon sewer system

[lavish grove]

Venator is getting holy stakes from someone

[still swan]

I mean he's part of a monster hunting organization run by the Vatican

Granted

[agile void]

I mean it could be WoD logic

[still swan]

Yeah

[agile void]

there "faith" is not religion

[still swan]

Jerma

Wait

[vernal parcel]

Minotaurs as monsters we don't have yet

And maybe like doppelgangers? Though I don't know how they would work

[lavish grove]

I’d like a Minotaur

[astral lava]

venator uses facts and logic

[astral lava]

dota terrorblade style make a temporary clone of someone who attacks them

[lavish grove]

“Dear Atheists, if god isn’t real, why is blessing my stakes with holy power to kill you?”

[warm sonnet]

Magic spells

[mystic breach]

the pope, duh

[warm sonnet]

The greatest wizard, ye

[undone galleon]

worlds first accurate catholic evilguy

[vivid nimbus]

His bulletproof vest is also magic (resists scale with spirit)

[undone galleon]

itd be funny if they made god a patron

[warm sonnet]

Each new map has different patrons to fight for

[undone galleon]

vatican mapp

[warm sonnet]

Ascendant Pope vs Martin Luther the Sixteenth

The protestant side starts as the gates of the vatican

The catholic side starts at the Sixteenth chapel

[undone galleon]

'im lowkey anglican'

[warm sonnet]

Wall Street
The Invisible Hand vs The Working Man

[undone galleon]

i dont think ive been this enraptured w/ a bit in so long

its stuck in my head like a termite

[lavish grove]

The hidden king rap?

[undone galleon]

yea