#Deadlock
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Iirc there's no built in lunge to mo's Combo but they're gonna build warp stone to have a lunge (item version)
yeah I played 1 celeste game and lost wildly hard
I dunno she's fine
she's a character
the really fun part of deadlock is that you can build characters in ways you want to (sometimes)
Very much spirit damage. Her air mobility IS pretty ridiculous though since it's not just 4 stamina but also reduced gravity and increased air control.
I prefer to play M&K as a movement speed focused ult a target and blow up character but there's a more tank or carry focused playstyle for him
Like a Holliday but all the time
do any of these characters conflict wifh my aim being kinda bad
not graves
graves literally has auto aim
fuck yes....
celestes projecticles auto aim on bounce, but they have travel time and are a bit weird
that sounds awesome
do you want a carry lifesteal tank that doesn't need M1 aim?
Graves has auto aim beam so that parts easy. Paige bullets are huge and pierce infinitely so it's more about just lining things up rather than being accurate
I looooove yamato
i mostly want a character whose design i like
is mina particularly aim reliant? i like her goofy infinite bat scaling
Very
The bat scaling primarily comes from being aim reliant so yes
sort of, but she requires tight micro theoretically in other places
fuuuuuck
Let's go bhoping
You need to hit your bullets to build up and proc Love Bites
Oh it was a 5stack, that makes sense
how real or fake am I for using the yamato redesign mod?
the realest
man I really think apollo is going to be my character tbh
but I like venators kit thinking he was going to be really boring
I only played one game with him and my job became "stand on a rooftop 80m away and delete people during the fight happening way over there"
I saw a post about venator being a homage to the classic 3 FPS games
doom supershotgun
halflife mp5 (this was a stretch)
railgun from quake
Where is my holy smite gif, cause that's all I'm hearing.
Fulbright?
source thing where it removes the shadows, theres a clip of a graves playing in streetbrawl in full bright and people thinking it looked disgusting
ik multiple old top tf2 players who played in it 😭
Probably to make it easier to see enemies/fights
what it looks like in question
Oh that's also got flattened textures
Yo why are there mountains near NY
That's not accurate
That's a TF2 pic
yeah I'm pretty sure in tf2 it's just for framerate
this is the sweatlord mge player look
I think the fullbright/"Config" look has its own charm to it in both games but maybe im crazy
Tho my big critique of the style of the game is that it looks nothing like NY even in the era and the fact that they just say sections / street names for the lanes makes me laugh
it looks like hot ass but the flat textures make stuff pop
Because TF2 is a super frame-intensive game in the 2020s XD
yeag
its called tf2 because my
Tower gets
Fps of
2
deadlock is somehow more optimized than tf2 without a config
ive heard the new bases are pretty rough rn
Ahh, huh
Also whoops forgot that half the players have constant particle emitters stapled to their heads now
you ready for unusuals in deadlock to completely kill the artstyle of the game in 10 years?
(im not attached to the cosmetics in tf2 and art direction discourse, but I do really like 2007 TF2s look)
quick tips, heavy melee is really good, sliding is really good
hehehehe
those 2 took me a few days to actually comprehend the importance of
echo shard refresher on graves
heavy melee is also really dangerous, parry gives you a long stun and a damage taken amplifier
also if you buy Unstoppable you can just go swingin
is slide just shift on the ground
crouch after a roll, on a slope or after a airdash
ok so immediate thought is celeste's ult goes pretty damn hard in street brawl
being able to pop a couple hundred damage consistently on like, everyone is an awful good tool
am I crazy for feeling completely useless in street brawls and feeling completely okay/good in normal games
feels like every street brawl game I play I get steam rolled/do no damage at all
i feel the opposite
i do better in brawl than normal
its probably cuz brawl incentivizes a certain playstyle
like say, bebop
bebop's bomb has massive value cuz you can regularly hit 2-3 people with that bomb
its good in normal but damn his kit is super consistent in sb
okay it's really starting to feel like I die more often than my teammates and like I'm just always getting caught out of position because I can't retreat as fast as the rest of th team
ok is there anything i should know about mina besides how love bites works
what ranges is she best at i guess
i think you just want to proc is as much as you can
your 2 is your only escape tool by default. it's a STUPIDLY GOOD ONE but if it's on cooldown people are going to jump you and you're not getting away. Use it to GO UP TO ROOFTOPS if you can while escaping.
it's also i-frames so you can use it to dodge things like Knockdown or Seven's stun if you really need to
Mina 2 distance also scales with spirit
You can really make some damn space lategame
your 1 gives life back if you kill with it, so what you do is get 2-4 troopers or neutral creeps to low health and press 1 to heal. it also does +% damage of target's missing HP so use it as an execute when fighting people
if you are in the air, hold RMB to zoom your gun and you get a little floating time with your umbrella (this is useful in several ways but not exactly critical to doing well with her)
actual convo
her ult seems like a great Killing You button
do not build gun/orange focus on her, the gun itself is pretty terrible so %damage increases are not worthwhile
vyper getting killed in her sleep
oh right uh what DO i build
the only gun items I imagine is either cult sac and maybe kdash
lotta spirit and green, because mina has the lowest base hp and scaling out of everyone
and how do i make a custom build
no idea if burst fire is even good
kinetic dash is good, burst fire is not high on my priority for her
i love whoever this rem was
found it
here's a random good-looking build I found for what items to get
ideally you use all your stamina + stamina mastery + float to just never be on the ground
always being above people where they can't get you. if they buy Knockdown, that's why you have Dispel Magic
and your 2 if absolutely necessary, but you should shy away from any fight that isn't a no-brainer win if it's on cooldown
if they get slowing hex before you use 2 to escape, that's why you have dispel magic
the only fights thatll be nobrainer wins for me will be figjts where i click on people with my infinite scaling ult and they die
i will be very careful abt 2 usage
the firerate and reload kinda seem like bait
Nah because you want your gun to be loaded so you can keep tagging targets with love bites
the GUN DAMAGE is bad but love bites is stupidly good, so you build spirit and a little ammo/fire rate
Now wondering if the play is actually Ethereal Shift
eshift is way more useful against burst
if she just keeps chucking turrets down it's really hard to get that much value out of it since you're not doing anything either
Well I was thinking about the turrets + barrage
But barrage is longer than 5 secs and uggggh
Yeah IDK
eshifting through barrage would be decent value if you can't find cover but at max spirit it just goes for ages
unfortunately sometimes you just need a team effort of chain curses or w/e to beat a super fed player
Yeah and she had magic carpet to get into "you're not finding much cover" spots
barrage is kinda countered by going next to her and getting her ass
but super fed mcginnis is really hard to shut down no matter what
yeah you would like to run at her
but uhh
the one million turrets that do one million dps would have something to say
And also slow/scroll
yup
Ok yep my new build is certified OP
if i was more aggressive and went for kills more i think i couldve won even harder
hmmm, i think rad regen would pair best with the healbane + spirit/bullet lifesteal 4.8 green
i think w/ graves you always want to push w/ the waves because every trooper wave means 500 HP for you
I wonder how many people here come from other movement shooters (gunz, tf2, quake, tribes, paladins)
Thinking on this, and I do think there's some NY-y stuff but yeah it's much more like a Chicago kinda vibe
Or Boston maybe, considering the twistiness of the streets
Celeste is a lot of fun though definitely doesnt feel as high-power as some of the other recent characters unless you're some sort of movement demon
ok christ i see why splitshot is banned
Still solid
you can force it with commands if you wanna try it in sandbox
getitem upgrade_split_shot
and yeah, its banned for very good reasons 
put rico on that shit
heres the thing
ngl, deadlock does feel like a soft evolution of gunz's movement systems
splitshot lets your bounce deal 5x damage
which means that if you had that
celeste would be able to build pure gun
and out DPS everyone while splitshot was active
which is so fucking weird
Is ricochet legal or banned?
Man, Deadlock’s setting feels like prime material to have a TTRPG made of it
Ricochet is legal.
ricochet is legal and its pretty nasty since the bounces can ricochet
Queued for all new characters, somehow got passed over for everything and landed Viscious. Proceed to have a great Punch Viscous game. :D
All my time playing REM has thoroughly taught me how they like to move and thus where to put my Puddle Punches to catch him out.
as-is blades in the dark is pretty good for it imo. massage it a lil
Yah, rn I’m thinking a blades hack, a WOD hack, or a delta green hack for an OSIC game
I haven't had-a lot of chances to actually use the system, but maybe Worlds Withou Number too
WWN/SWN are kind of in a weird space to me, but they seem pretty good
Valve paper card game that used all its IPs would go bananas (this is not instigation of artifact slander)
sadly I think artifact came out like 3 years too early with a really weird/frustrating business model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAg0klZlAA
"I'm lowkey evillllllll"
Celeste girlie not to let a cishet white guy say something but Pocket is They 😭
Yoshi said it's an error
That's good to know
(Also fun fact before I knew Pocket's pronouns I thought they were a butch girl)
src ulsae1995 on bad bird site
I love Celeste
I think he can buy stuff
And otherwise it’s mostly allies
I think they can looking at the shop for items
I think pocket being they/them i learnt before I even downloaded the game hahaha. People were very excited
I hadn't paid that much attention to DL until friends dragged me into it a month ago, so my first exposure to them was in a game
I do like how Pocket was seemingly made they them just because of Puck
pocket was made they/them because their name rhymes with sock 🤔
I uh
what
I want to figure out how I can take 2 people at once as graves
And how to improve my early game
Also, I don’t give a shit if I need to wait twice as long as long as I can guarantee graves
I ALONE AMONG CART AND WALL
vortex web + 4 the tank, start fuckin dunking carries into the trash with Tankbuster bell, turn around and mail ball Viscous across the map because he didn't ask permission to be in this teamfight
the tank phases back into reality and there's a call bell waiting for them
if you can web cart bell 2 people and put another one away you basically just win
hmmmm
now that i think about it
for my hybrid graves
i think splitshot + recharging rush + titanic are gonna be the early spike items
technically speaking it's monster + resto + titanic + split
and imo, on graves, you can ignore cult sac
Titanic over like Escalating Resilience?
That said I don't play graves so I dunno how much more max you need or want
you can run esc resil
if you plan on intensifying + active reload
you dont really need it
im not sure how mercurial interacts with grave's 1
but you could run quicksilver -> merc there
mercurial does not seem good on graves
it's pretty fire as a gun graves main
because my current main build is about 50/30/20 opg
i think it might work better on your 2
i really like echo shard on the 2
echo shard bebop is toxic as fuck
@rich grove business idea: doorman trolley problem
also one of the big things about graves is she steals spirit resist
which means merc is particularly good for that usecase
im not sure on how reverb interacts with her 1
i do like surge of power on her 1
anyways i think graves is the worlds best hero and most buildable ever
shes cool
there's only like, 10 items i dont think she could use
The Doorman trolley problem solution is using a portal to make the trolley hit both groups of people
I think shes in a good place with the range nerf
she's lovely
smart
To the clever, this will assure us victory
Dunno what it is but man am I struggling to win lanes (and by some extension games in general) lately
Sometimes my teammate just ints, but even if that’s not a factor I feel like I’m usually the one getting hard shoved under guardian
there's a false sense of security you find yourself in when you're laning
if you're under half health, if your opponents coordinate and really go deep they can kill you unless you're really quick on the draw to get back behind the guardian
Mm, I’m more talking about, like
If I’m playing Viscous + Geist into Abrams + Doorman, that shouldn’t be a super imbalanced lane in terms of who’s strong when
AFAIK
but inevitably Geist and I wind up pushed back to turret even if we play fairly cautiously, and I don’t fully get why
Questions: do you buy monster rounds, and how much do you focus on killing troopers when they arrive
Abrams can be very hard to punish due to his regeneration, and doorman is honestly just a gigantic bastard if they're good with their call bells
Ensuring that you kill their troopers before they get yours helps reduce the amount of free space they have to play in
If the wave is shoved into their guardian they can't (as easily) afford to be doing the cheeky shit they want to be doing (Abrams in veil/cover, doorman tossing bells from the bridge)
this is from hitting space
stop hitting space
it is very consistent if you stop hitting space
(also buy carpet on the goat, it's funny)
Celeste also offers Rem to come home with her
everyone will take care of baby
except maybe vyper
though I would love to hear her freak out about a child being anywhere near her
Or more likely vyper accidentally revealing something horribly traumatic about her childhood and then trying to brush it off as if it's completely normal
"don't talk to the feds kid" is him being nice
Vyper would love to take care of Rem, Rem can send his children to gamble for her
I dont think Seven is necessarily wrong in that either, given what we know od the OSIC
Fair
I do like his line with Celeste where he just bluntly says he's hiding from federal agents in tunnels below the city
Idk why but its hilarious to me
He loses that interaction so hard
Yep
Celeste is the first to ragebait him as well to my knowledge, with the Lash line
First time he doesnt have a snarky comeback at leasy
I love Seven's characterization personally, I like his interactions with Graves as well
"I have federal agents outside my house" - man trying to win a conversation
Seven steadily turned from psychotic murderer to a conspiracy nut who was right and they tried to kill him about it
he won the journalist prize
Seven, Pultzer Prize winner
we don't have a newsie yet, I'd rather like one in the game
Also, Celeste is from Coney Island
at least, currenly lives and works in Coney island
Celeste is a unicorn in a human disguise, right?
Or are unicorns just humans with horns in Deadlock
I think she's a Unicorn. Looking at her backstory.
clearly she's a shapeshifter who comes from a magical world where there are lots of magic-casting unicorns and who just fell here during the maelstrom
a world full of equestrians
(or maybe she just wandered through the astral gate in New York while no-one was looking)
i think its tattoos
Yeah I think tattoos as well
since she has tattoos on her back
it's hard to tell, but probably tats since she does clearly have them on her wrists and back
I feel bad because I'm doing that thing where I'm putting characters against a wall and adjusting the camera but I really am just trying to look at her tats
Street Brawl... I'm Rem, and we have Lash, Venator, Shiv...
@bleak thicket @still swan its tatoos, her whole body is tatooed
I feel like Mob with the physical fitness club
the arms tatoos is optional but its pretty clear its tatoos when you see her back
yes, as we said, that makes it very likely those are also tattoos. but it's not like we can go into the game and physically take her stockings off and confirm it for sure.
Haze calls it protocol
Rem is building up to be one of the biggest gripes in her job currently, we also dont know what exactly is rem to haze
haha! The Baby wins! Baby MVP!
I think celeste might legit want the 3 stamina items
stam mastery is assured, but also kdash and arcane surge are good additions to her already movement focused kit
I think he's still got a bit of both
Fair
YOU'RE THE GREENEST PERSON EVERRRR
god i need to look up some good celeste builds
No that's Viscous
Viscous disappeared into the aether
You said "ever", not "present"
cus like
looking up and researching someone else's drifter build immediately made me orders of magnitude better
but the character came out like, yesterday so its still in the process of figuring out what you can do with her
but man i really like celeste
Lightbringer has done some pretty good flexible builds for all the new heroes
Ooo
They're not L->R compatible tho
Celeste kinda just seems like you’d go normal spirit burst, but also grab stamina mastery
L->R is when you buy all the non-optional items in a build in order from left to right
buy left to right
or just leave the Quick buy deal with it
I just didn’t know what that short hand was
You see it noted in some build annotations
I tend to break down my left to right really quickly when it comes to situations where a specific item might be worthwhile
But yeah gotcha
I have gotten to the point that L R is something I just ignore
I fight abrams and Mo? first buy is freaking healbane
I don’t ignore it but…sometimes I skip an item and go back
god i hate this stupid "doubletap a message to use a reaction" thing on discord mobile
i need to turn it off
But Lightbringer style builds are like "here's some good lane options, here's some good midgame items for hitting each color spike, here's some good late options, here's some common situationals"
But the midgame categories will have like 6-8 items despite the fact you're only expected to buy 2
itemization in this game is completely baffling to me
it feels more comprehensible to me than league did but
maybe league is just literally badly designed i have no idea
I'd love a like
deadlock's felt better about it though
Anti-Shield item
i guess league was easier for me bc every item looked distinct
So like here's Lightbringer's Celeste build
https://statlocker.gg/builds/build-lab/459784
Track your Deadlock matches, analyze performance, and improve. Real-time stats, hero tier lists, build guides, and rank tracking.
I was so confused for a moment and thought it said Lawbringer and was like, "Why we talking about For Honor in Deadlock"
and partially bc there are predetermined """starting items"""
I was overwhelmed by items too while starting, I mostly just followed L->R builds until I got a handle on things, ones that had annotations for counterpicking or why an item is essential were the most helpful
Where do you find replays?
I want to grab a clip. Losing the game but... did a fun moment
im probably gonna have to find characters who arent mina to play 
I really should make like, proper builds for my characters
Rn I just browse the generic shops and buy the stuff I want
thank you~
one day im gonna properly make a build but for now i think im going to stick with large annotated builds to construct my understanding of the game
and maybe start with merely modifying those builds
at least at first
Also I'm losing it at Doorman's "Seven you naughty boy" line
ig i'll have to see how badly my lack of aim conflicts with mina's whole deal in an actual game
i do love how much characters talk shit
fortunately i only need to hit a few shots on any given enemy at a time
bc of the cooldown
one time we were fighting against a fed silver and the hidden king cultist announcer just yelled "HOW HARD IS IT TO FIND SILVER BULLETS AND PUT HER DOWN"
i love HOW MAD your announcer gets
"KILL THAT MOTHERFUCKER"
OH RIGHT
does cooldown reduction affect how long it takes before i can reapply love bites to a target
i forever adore the archmother announcer seething "I WANT BILLY DEAD"
I fail the game, but I arrive at where the enemies are... I use Rem's ult and put venator asleep. I'm a silly goose so I just crouch jiggle in front of the sleeping Venator who was in the middle of HIS ult... He wakes up, and the last screen before transferring to the results page is Venator's gun glowing brightly while pointed right down at my head.
YEAHHHHH
leika how do you like rem's little birdies
and their ability to do chores
I love the voice lines for when an enemy is fed
So much
I love them, they're not tooooo useful in street brawl but I love em
hey dont underestimate buffed minions
street brawl is an objective based game
your goal is to kill their guardian
minions are VERY important for that
Oh yeah I still buff the minions and it helps push the objective back but they don't get to do the box and sinner farming
it takes FOREVER to kill a buffed minion
nodnod
ye
ive played street brawl a bunch
genuinely a fun gamemode for practice
i love how much mad shit the doorman talks
cosmic beings just love ragebait
theres an item that reduces the cooldown of one specific ability and i want to know if its ever justifiable to put it on love bites
or if it goes on the invuln dash so i can use its buff to kill people
“The hidden king will not be denied because of a child with a pillow!”
YEAH FR
Holy shit he says to turn silver into a rug
I love the hidden king so much
im an archmother enjoyer but
The one unfortunate part of this update is that he kinda blows the archmother out of the water imo
thats only because im an angelgirl
I LOVE THE ARCHMOTHER WHAT
exploding you with my mind powers
genuine archmother enjoyer here!!!
Hidden King has the better theme though
I’m sorry but you can’t give me Clancy brown voiced chaos god of the slums
And not expect me to immediately rep him
hes cool as hell dont get me wrong!!!
i aint expecting you not to rep em
but dont slander my woman
I’m sorry, could you find it in your heart to forgive?
im going to use a vyper bola on you turn your ass to stone
Fuck
one time a venator was so angry i whiffed my ult and accidentally saved an enemy drifter's life that he kept yelling at me about it for the rest of the game
so i just quoted bible verses at him and it somehow shut him up out of sheer confusion
...thats not related to anything its just something im always going to think about now whenever i look at vyper ult
Vyper does feel like the kinda character to know Bible verses purely because of probably how many times they’ve been shouted at her
hdakfjskdjfasd
Karen, show the clip
ive got one singular screenshot thats about it
he just stopped talking until the endgame lmao
genuinely confused
this might be my new way to deal with toxicity
Shit that does feel like a vyper line
Man had commitment issues. He isn't him.
this is fhe most vyper thing ive ever seen
HAHAHAHA
its beautiful
imagine it in her midwest accent
...wait no its not midwest its a little bostonian
whatever imagine it in her bostonian accent
She’s been around the block she’s got a mix
yeah
"had a lotta time to read over the thing in the joint. They give that shit out for free in some counties."
yeah
choosing to imagine the progression is "using it to roll joints or as toilet paper" "wait shit i can resell this" "man i wonder what's in here"
she would want him carnally and he would probably deny her
...probably
who knows maybe venator accepts a fling with the snake
I mean… she does have a thing for big burly men
theres jokes to be made
oh yeah the "probably" is about venator rejecting her not her having that crush
We’re doing the garden again
something something make her crawl on her belly........im phoning it in
and i cant make a joke about aaron's staff with her either
...at least not yet
Venator has no crushes for he is married to his respect of all living things.
But as such he would take her on the most romantic date he knew of, probably something about a underground fight club
i do adore venator
he's a GREAT priest character
thinking about the line of him and holliday praying together and her kinda sounding on the verge of tears
like damn
I do wonder if Venator does actually have one night stands
Because like, part of the sword of Saint Benedict’s thing is that they don’t really follow priestly vows
i dont know what vows he's taken yeah
I will pillow the ever loving god out of people
Venator drinks, smokes, has worldly possession, also kills people
certainly not any vows of sobriety
i suppose his vows may have to do with his life of fighting monsters
It seems like as apart of their mission as the sword of the Vatican they’re allowed to engage in sin
which, i suppose as a vow to god, is pretty impressive
As he himself says, he does not walk the righteous path
He allows others to walk it
i just assumed he did confessionals every once in a while to y'know
be cleansed and all that
but yeah hes on a sinful path of violence in the name of killing murderous monsters
so
yeah i dont think any vows of celibacy
unless he just...also did that
I like Seven personally
seven's funny as hell
He's my Deadlock Blorbo
i like his gameplay
hes fun
I find him both interesting and funny
farm like a little rat
seven lies in his conversation with Celeste, claiming hes "not a queen"
you need to make enough grain to feed a kingdom
I love his line where he just says “I’m hiding from federal agents”
when hes clearly a catty gay man
"There are federal agents outside my house"
Yet his parry animation is ass first…
i have several deadlock blorbos, namely mina, ivy, and vyper
ivy and vyper are my blorbos
but im a drifter main at heart
i love accompanying vulnerable people at night and killing and eating them
i love being in the jungle and hearing someone's heartbeat
Exactly
the first badge Karen ever got in Peak was... well actually it was the one for throwing a frisbee at each other. The SECOND one was for eating me.
Based
YOU OFFERED
I brought up the fact it was a thing and you went "that one lets do that one"
Seven canonically lives in tunnels under NYC because he's hiding from Federal Agents
yes
mina's really funny to me bc she seems like
kinda out of her depth
this is also brought up in the mo and krill dialogue
shes so out of her depth
i want her and drifter to interact more
camarilla baby talking to sabbat elder
He pays rent to mo and krill
she thinks shes the coolest hottest person to ever do it
and she is. demonstrably not
didnt he explicitly not pay them rent?
Yeah he hired Mo and Krill for some of the tunnels iirc
and theyre kinda mad about it?
the best part of this game is the characters have REAL RELATIONSHIPS AND INTERACTIONS unlike dota where like, 6 people know each other
No that was Wraith
YEAH
They owe Wraith 50 bucks
no no it was mo and krill
It’s really funny that Mina basically went from being a rich girl, to almost being the richest girl in America, and then being a vampire bottom feeder
Mo and Krill owe Wraith I mean
And unlike league where they actively retcon the concept of characters knowing each other
WRT Venator's vows, there's also this convo:
Silver: Got a problem working with me?
Venator: The Venators are a results-centric order.
Silver: Bet that covers all manner of sins.
Venator: You have no idea.
Seven is later found hanging out in his tunnels before hearing “GET THEM MO!”
CAMARILLA BABY VS SABBAT ELDER is the mina drifter dynamic and i love it
So funny they started adding more dialogue to league characters for a while and then for some reason people complained and they went back to adding very little dialogue
if i fumbled pocket i would probably also immediately descend into the pits of hell
Admittedly I do like how Seven and Haze are fighting custody over Graves and Rem
I love dialogue
What do you mean? He's good right now
shoutout to Graves referring to krill as "the mole's weird roommate"
seven and haze fighting over the graves and rem custody FOR REAL
He is? I thought he was still paying for his sins when the game first went public
Same tbh
i love the theory that rem is like, haze's imaginary friend or something from when she was a child and he accidentally followed her into reality when she was doing some dream hopping
no idea if thats real or not but
He's less 'Ult Wipes The Teamfight' and more Gods' Gift to Farming these days
its a cute theory
but on-demand stun and plentiful AOE always good
his ult is really good for teamfights
Also speaking of, I fucking adore this art from @ rosewaterjelly
ill say that much
It’s completely how I imagine their engaged dynamic
oh i meant seven the chatscroll bein weird
Yeah his ult is still great for teamfights
Meanwhile Seven is telling Rem not to trust the feds (justifiably tbf) and telling Graves that her Mentor Lich is holding her back
rem's mom is a fed, alas
IDK what he was like before, but if Seven's current state is after a ton of nerfs, he deserved those nerfs
Also his Ult is also great for Area Denial
Seven hates seeing wasted potential
Yeah
He has similar lines with McGinnis
Thats one of his big traits
seven "Why aren't you killing people more"
"you should be locked in"
"why are you tweaking"
Saying she could have made miracles and instead settled for being Fairfax’s wage slave
"I'm dont enjoy murder, I'm indifferent to it'
Murder is a means to Seven, not an end
but hes an amoral freak who wants to murder kelvin so badly and everyone distrusts him on account of LIGHTNING SHOOTS FROM MY FINGERTIPS
Typical ex behavior tbh
Well except for Kelvin but that's because of [mysterious beef]
They also put him in the Worst Prison for Nightmares even before he became a lightning demon
"I'm so far beyond you!!!! I'm like a god in human clothing!!!!"
(kelvin not replying at looking away)
"LIGHTNING SHOOTS FROM MY FINGERTIPS"
reading mina's quotes, i like her and victor's dynamic
Tbf Seven is also like
victor has so many girls trying to fix him he's got a damn construction crew
One of the most dangerous occultists on the planet iirc
ivy, mina, paige
id say theyre not exactly friends but theyre on good terms
I like that Doorman is the only thing that seems to give Venator genuine distress
Also the convo where Seven is like "I'm a big fan of your work professor" and Dynamo is like "umm...."
'What -was- that thing?'
YEAH
Thats because Doorman is G-Man's cousin
every Dynamo interaction is golden
It’s awesome how Paige flip flops with him between genuine empathy for his situation and being so extremely bad down for him it’s embarrassing
"Bro that was from the backrooms ngl"
whaddaman
I like his interaction with Seven
venator staring at the doorman "The bible warned me about you specifically"
Dynamo is horrified to learn he indirectly inspired Seven
these all pale in comparison to
ALCHEMICAL FLASK
"right there in jezuboad 34:22: watch out for that rat fuck the doorman"
cant wait for warden to get a real model
Consequently Dynamo is one of the few people Seven shows any respect
???
God I need warden to like, actually get interactions
He’s such a cool character but his model doesn’t do him Justice and he doesn’t talk to anyone else
It's also funny that Venator and Holliday both have lines of "[Seven is] a monster, but he's our monster" in very different tones of voice
i assume this is the wiki being incomplete but its very funny
the response lines aren't in the files I believe
Yeah some dialogues aren't finished yet but are like Storyboarded
It's time to change the world
Meanwhile Vyper has like 20 solid minutes of talking, they must have had her in the booth more easily
i love vyper
vyper needs more.
Greedy gluttonous vyper fans
Seven has gotten a lot of lines this update as well
I assume they're not fully recorded/edited yet because voice actors have schedules and you don't pull them in for just a handful of lines if you can help it
he HAS
He interacts with every new hero iirc
attack/defense game mode with vyper as announcer
"YO you gotta summon the hidden king"
"What are ya DOING they're destroying OUR WALKERS"
They've definitely just got seven's va easily at the ready
Yah the new characters basically only interact with him, infernus, holiday and each other I think
"Yeahhhh push up that lane!!!"
"Do that again, I wasn't lookin'-" /post killstreak
"Watch out for that rat fuck the doorman"
holy shit
Yamato too
Oh yah
that would be SO funny
Yamato invites Paige out for coffee
vyper "hold on what happened they're all dead" when you get a team wipe
It's maybe the nicest she is to anyone
Man, I hope we get a big “redesigning all the old characters with unfinished models” update
"invites" wdym
paige will go out for coffee with yamato
it is simply what will happen
im dying for that vyper redesign
They've been like slowly sneaking in little updates
Folks getting new parries/Yamato getting her effects redone
bebop will become less samurai one day
i hope that the vyper redesign doesnt actually change her design much
and just makes the model better mostly
i really like the design concept i saw
I just want her to actually be a snake
Also get a gun that isn’t Ivy’s without the magazines
her whole rig is ivy rn
ill defend that xcom ass enemy design for her cus it works better with her number 3 slide
even her melee
it's a really funny melee though
Also yah, her having a snake body would work way better
swing on 'em
Her 3 has her slither
the golf club swing does work for her admittedly
she slithers when she slides even without her 3
i hope she baseball swings as a melee still yeah
i need them to fix whatever lighting issue makes mirage look like a vampire in character selection
when i encounter viscous i want him dead
mina's heavy melee is great because i know for a FACT if she were in a fighting game she would have white woman normals
-Seven
'Oh god, it's talking to me'
viscous "i'm here to kill the devil that haunts the deep!"
"Oh damn you've actually got some shit going on my apologies I didn't know you were chill like that."
Man, I hope we get like, an adversary champion character
"its me....THE DEVIL"
The way they’re described they’re more like a patron then a character you could play
i hope we get an angel character one day...
for uh
...unbiased reasons
Slork
But like, having a character who represents them would be sick
SLORKTILLION DOLLARS
if they actually add the devil and give them the snapcube black doom voice because the game is in new york i would be so happy
An Angel fell in New York and vyper hits her with the “did it hurt when you fell down from heaven?” Pick up line
I still don't know if folks actually wanted Slork or it was a meme from the getgo
From datamined voice lines and such, Slork also hates the Adversary
NOOOOO
fhasjkfkadf
I WANTED SLORK
BADLY
I need slork
i love fishpeople
feeple
But Slork is also a tyrant who wants to rule the Deep, the Adversary is just a threat to that
What does like his kit do
It does make sense, this thing does have the strength of a warlord
hes slorkin it
Listen to his select quotes, his voice has so much aura
https://deadlock.wiki/Fathom/Quotes
And then he looks like that
I do genuinely hope we get him though
I think a stealth ambush character would be fun and isn’t really a niche we have yet
We have haze but like
She’s a hyper carry
The stealth is just so you can get into position to hyper carry
I want a proper assassin
shes best played as an assassin
people just build her as a farming carry in matchmaking
my boy drifter....
johnny ambush ;-;
He’s an ambush assassin but like, he’s a visible one
thats fair
That’s fair yah
Drifter wants them to know he's doin it because he's an asshole
Rikimaru 1-to-1, smokescreen will be fine...
Don't curse this dustless game with a Riki
Is Shadow Weave good at all? I never see it
i would like to see a character who is at least deer themed
Shadow Weave feels kind of 'win more' ish? like other options feel more Reliable
but I do love it
I put it on Drifter things sometimes, nice to get a free in without using much stamina or 2 charge
i stole my drifter build online but its worked REALLY GOOD and it has so many options for different situatiosn and lovely annotations
its given me an appreciation for how to build drifter
How many ungulate-themed characters do we need?
There can always be more
Enchantress confirmed for Deadlock port
Honestly, they should just port Broodmother. Relative size and everything.
Her auto-attack is throwing eggs at people
her ult makes them hatch on hit
idk if my FPS could handle a Fully Webbed NYC
Hough yesssss
I love that drifter can smell haze
play it on abrams it's funny
Could see it on Billy but also can't imagine that boy being quiet in any regard
I need to try drifter
carpet billy tbh
billy likes duration
Teleporting through the map via jungle camps looks so fun
rising ram range scales duration
You can quick melee bridge buff???
i mean if I got to VA someone like Vyper
they'd have trouble getting me out of the booth
I can listen to Vyper reading a phonebook
Man, I wanna play or run a TTRPG game set in deadlock’s setting
I would jokingly suggest shadowrun but actually the 40’s aesthetic makes that harder
Like no this isn’t a cyberpunk urban fantasy future this is actually an urban fantasy 40’s setting
Doing hacking on an ENIAC
Same, its a very fun setting (and aesthetic)
But also legitimately you probably could adapt a blades or WOD hack to this very easily
It’s very coherently put together
Yeah
I could see it
Drifter is like
Very WoD vampire coded from my understanding
A friend suggested deltagreen for an OSIC game and that would be sick as fuck
“Check it out I’m shooting blood from my fingers”
viscous is really fun
just build all melee for punch wizard
I'm a single celled organism and brother that cell's the fucking thunderdome
You’re going to the vacuole buddy
Also chat, do we actually have a specific year deadlock takes place in?
We don't
Damn
I think there is one in that Visual novel that got a bit leaked? But I don't think any of that can really be considered canon
We can use powerful mathematics to get 1949
Iirc it didn’t actually
People would probably bring it up
I thiiink the ixia business happened actually?
Instead theres the wars to colonize ixia
Yah we know it was annexed and made the 51st state
The world exploding into urban fantasy 50 years ago might’ve changed circumstances
I actually wonder then if Apollo is a prince in exile
Since like, I doubt the U.S. would allow the royal family to still hold power
Ohhh
North seems to still be independent
I thought they annexed all of it
Man, I hope we get more foreign characters for insights on the rest of the world
Venator is Irish but he’s more attached to the Vatican then anything
Raven was Russian but he isn’t real yet so idk about him
please call ravens "soviet empire" anything else bc that doesnt work as a phrase
I've been dating Deadlock as "sometime between the 20s and the very early 50s" bc there's so many anachronisms and odd details that imo any point of time in that window is fair game
He's probably from somewhere somehow aligned with the US in Ixia, even if it isnt in the State itself
Considering he goes to school in the US with zero issue
Yah
Apparently he goes to the same school as graves which is
Hilarious
and Mina graduated from
I think they might be lab partners but this could be fanon already rolling
Soviet Empire would theoretically describe a consitutional monarchy made up of councils.
But they should really change it
Yah, Blackmore academy
And yah if Mina also graduated from it
It’s looking like the richest prep school in New York
I wonder if pocket also went
ghost Catherine the great rules
They were set to inherent Fairfax before, everything
"As the Spymaster of the Soviet Empire, "The Raven" has sought every scrap of ancient writing, artifacts, and history in an effort to give the specter of Catherine the Great a body once more. In the Cursed Apple, the Patrons offer him the best chance to achieve his goal. "
idk I think ghost catherine the great is bad
Pocket could be home schooled as their dad seems to be very very interested in controlling them
I do love the subtle implications though that magic absolutely existed in some way before the big explosion of magic
Just, it wasn’t obvious
But the drifter is like
Possibly centuries?
<@&1277035919182008330> Just pinging this one more time for folks interested in group play
Maybe more
Huh, wonder how you end up in a different Russian state that’s still a monarchy
"When the Maelstrom first hit New York, it didn’t just usher in a new age of mysticism to the world… it changed geopolitics. From CIA employed seers identifying threats decades before they rise to power to occult pacts made in smoky backrooms; countless wars and atrocities have been prevented that would otherwise have shaped history. But that doesn’t mean there is no war… just that war has changed.
Paranormal Military Companies have risen to prominence. These groups, using a combination of extra-planar creatures and various blood magics; have found ways to circumvent the guardrails established by the nation’s watchdog oracles, allowing them to function as proxies for nations seeking to wage war.
Wrecker is one such soldier.
Employed by Eldritch Tactical Solutions (a subsidiary of Fairfax Industries), Wrecker is an elite soldier of fortune with a reputation for doing dirty work that other PMC’s don’t have the stomach for."
Also yah, it was just hidden away
ra ra rasputin, russia's greatest love machine etc
Warden’s family was also ancient monster hunters
Ah yah probably
Magic White Army? Communists forces which reject mystism? Something like that
Also man, I do kinda hope that there’s still like a communist faction in Russia, just because magic Lenin would be very funny
Isnt Deadlock the 30s, not the 50s?
and Billy is from the 70s
there is no hard date
Fair
I love “Magic didn’t suddenly start existing it just became obvious”
like i said a while back
That shits cool
The Broken Masquerade
Deadlock is around 1949ish. At least in theory
and again, we dont have a proper date
paradox, dynamo, and bebop exists
ATMs existed before in the older map
there is the entirety of whatever the fuck Mcginnis is doing as lockheed martin
I mean bebop is explicitly magic as well
He’s a golem
Dynamo is just stardust in a metal shell
Paradox is a neon prime design
They all fit inside the tropes of pulp 40s fiction is the thing
Doesnt change that we dont have a specific date, which is the main thing I want to hammer
literally just vibes
also there is no navy, if you are a sailor, you are a zeppelin driver
"Lash is implied to be a sailor, due to the equipment on his model, his anchor tattoos, Death Slam's ship horn sound effects, and other characters referring to him as a "stevedore".[12][13][14] Instead of a traditional nautical sailor, Lash is more likely an airship worker (in Deadlock, airships powered by zephyrs were used instead of airplanes),[15] based on Lash's ability kit encouraging air mobility and Lash's old model having zephyr tattoos.[16]"
random ahh question but by any chance is there anyone in the GMT+8 area looking to stack soon? currently in soloqueue hell as mcginnis (most recent game saw a 4v5💀)
Genies are alos trying to buy Wyoming
"That is how you got louisiana"
You should fill out the schedule here #1276682303384457256 message
Nah it's in the 2020s, cause we're in 2026 
Shiiiit right
you can also just ping the role
oo oki tyy!
im going to post up once we get a few more responses with some times that people match up for
if youre gmt+8 I likely wont be able to help organize the events themselves but will connect you with the people who selected the same times as you
I'd add myself to the schedule, but my work hours get finicky so free time's not a guarantee
Its not a "you have to be here at x time every week" when we ran this last fall some folks showed every week and there were also drop ins.
I just personally find it easier to stack at a set time instead of doing pick ups and I know at least a couple other folks feel the same
https://youtu.be/SNvDUO42Hys Celeste be like
=) i´m not phoon =)
It's funny seeing streamers build tons of stamina on Celeste
4 base + 1 kinetic dash + 2 stam mast + resto locket
How much stam do you need? Yes
Her base stam regen is kinda low so Resto might shine a bit
She has the standard 4.5s stam cooldown
oh
Just Bop and Kelvin slower and Mina faster, huh, I thought there was more variance there
But also, having that much stam does not keep this streamer from running down to the last bar in teamfights
stamina mastery on Celeste kinda lets you just fucking fly across the map
Yeah and slamming kinetic for ammo
yeah
this was my initial theory crafting for her
have since added stamina mastery
the extra air dash distance with her float is just nuts
I've heard she's a Spellslinger fan
that makes sense
Her and Geist and...
warden!
oh right flask has ittybitty cd
ap5 only but yeah
Venator's AP5 grenade being 'can have charges' without adding an extra charge feels kind of odd
( though also -20% healing reduction )
It's not the only ability like that
Yeah, Infernus flame dash also gets it on 5 I believe?
yup
rapid recharge recharging rush nade venator is very fun
its also 50% antiheal out of the box
It also happens on suck 5 for Gheist. Which is evry useful to keep in mind in brawl
There's also a few abilities that are just 1 flat charge, no +charge upgrade
Just a real menace
Billy too
Bash is just one charge from the jump innit?
Ya
Bash can get an extra charge from Blasted
oh yeah it scales off another abilities ap upgrade
Billy is so wild
Celeste's 3 going from 1 charge to 3 at ap1 is so strange
It’s really fun
When I play Billy I tend to only build like, the 3 melee items and close ranged for my damage and then go full tank
And still shred people with his 1
Chat what do I do if I go like 2/30 on everyone except for graves
Also, Celeste so far has been funny to me because I watch her be super behind in lots of my games
I think it’s because lots of people don’t know how to utilize her insane stamina
Begin your goth phase irl
Fine I’ll get some earrings for now…
Also unfortunately you may have to get better at aiming
Sadly, no.
Ah damn
Seriously though I think it’s tremors or something
shit I’m sorry, I didn’t know
I have shaky hands and all that
I can’t aim any small hit boxes, basically
Doorman’s bell is fine
Cart is a little tricky
Hmm, could maybe try Paige?
Her gun is really unimportant to her kit and her projectiles are quite large
doorman's bullets are hugh mungus as well
Also chat, something really cute I realized
Dynamo’s body was destroyed 50 years ago during the first astral gate event
But he’s celebrating his 31st anniversary during the game
doorman you kinda do gotta be able to aim a bit though since his gun is extremely good and allows him to contribute a lot
So his wife must’ve met him when he was just a big metal ball and still fell in love with him
He's a very sweet big metal ball
doorman bullets go CLUNK
give doorman back headshot damage, it was very fun for everyone to lane against
Also heroes like pocket maybe that have shotguns that are more forgiving and then you go Unga Bunga ult explosion and ability dmg
its still fun for people to lane against
somehow everyone still seems to think without the bells he's defenseless
don't peek against doorman, his One Big Dumb Bullet is five of yours
Try Mo and Krill, they have a full auto shotgun and most of their damage comes from their skills
if you hit 2 headshots in a row its 117 damage at level one and its Not Hard
(assuming you bought headshot booster immediately after 1st wave)
I like going headshot booster long range on him
Mo and Krill is zero aim. The purpose of your gun is to apply Spirit res down, maybe.
I tend not to go gunny but an early Headshot is usually worth-feeling
also just now realizing how silly the Long Range icon is
its a reference to one of the og films
The moon with a bullet in its eye is probably like, the image of old Hollywood
rocket*
Damn
yes to monster rounds and I try to kill creeps before fighting, yeah
your poke opportunity should be pretty good to opt for over pushing the lane
I do kinda feel like I end up killing most of the creeps as opposed to it being a shared lane duty, but I don’t wanna write this off as a “teammates bad” thing because I’m sure I have room to improve
although trading while there's just the heal trooper left in the enemy wave is of course great
come lane with me dork
Monster Rounds are great for farming
Perhaps later tonight actually
Monster Rounds are also great when I once again forget Early Minions Hurt Real Bad
Tbh maybe I should add monster rounds to my build for early or mid game when I want to do my farming shit
And sell it after once it’s not longer valuable
monster rounds should be in most heroes "early situational" category
Early Guardian shreds health
Yeah but I’m a drifter main, I love farming and I love stealing enemy farm
'i'll just poke 'em a littl- ZRRT'
Anything that speeds things up in the slower early game is welcome