Deadlock

[agile void]

and there is a reaction in there

[stable forum]

false

:3

[rich grove]

eshift doesn't magically automatically pop for you either

it technically does not make you stand still

but you float at like 0.5m/s or something

[bleak thicket]

my bad, it took them 2 years and 6 months to fix it

[agile void]

regardless, it is pretty clear something has to change with victor, wheter its some changes in his kit, with how he interacts with the item, or upping his counters

[stable forum]

agree that Victor should probably get nerfed

[rich grove]

no argument

[agile void]

kelvin is also there being a forced ban

[stable forum]

also, can we obliterate infernus??

[agile void]

lets not forget that

[stable forum]

yeah kevin has been busted since there were 4 lanes

maybe before that

possibly all of Deadlock's lifespan

[rich grove]

he has like a paradox level string of nerfs every single patch and yet lmao

I await the inevitable nerf of dome to mei blizzard

[stable forum]

he's been 2nd strongest character in the game behind Infernus, Infernus got nerfed hard(but not hard enough!) and kevin is still largely fine.

[agile void]

It is kind of sad how a lot of supports can just

go gun

and their skills are already good

[rich grove]

eh

[stable forum]

honestly I want
more movement interrupts

[rich grove]

I think this is literally only applicable to kelvin

er

dynamo

ER

DOORMAN

[agile void]

ivy?

[rich grove]

jesus my brain is on one

[finite patrol]

the twink

[stable forum]

make Vortex Web interrupt Ice Path & Flame Dash

[rich grove]

except 2 gun ivy's spells are mid as fuck for anything outside jungling

[stable forum]

possibly make every movement lockout interrupt Ice Path & Flame Dash if you're feeling truly evil (do not do this)

but like, give movement ability interrupt to Vortex Web, maybe Chain Gang, maybe Vindicta's Stake

Dynamo Kinetic Pulse if you want to buff Dynamo for some reason

[rich grove]

of course you wanna jungle like crazy on givy but I'm pretty sure gunman is the only case of that formula (my skills are so goated with 0 investment I can build pure gun and get 90% of the effort) actually being good at preserving the utility side of the equation

[agile void]

I mean kelvin too since he is supposed to be a supp

[rich grove]

gelvin is not good

[stable forum]

gunvin is weird

[agile void]

gun kelvin is a popular build, isnt it?

[rich grove]

and there is not a "supposed" to be

if you build gelvin you are absolutely giving things up for it

[stable forum]

Deadlock really doesn't have a concept of 'hard supports'

[rich grove]

if you spend 24000 souls on gun items and have hands

maybe you should have an increase in gun damage

[stable forum]

the closest one is probably Paige, and she will beat the shit out of you

or Dynamo i guess

[agile void]

dynamo gun apparently was really scary

like, before nda lift time

by the point we were allowed to talk about it, his gun was nerfed heavily

[stable forum]

i mean

[rich grove]

I remember one patch they nerfed dynamo's gun scaling for some inexplicable reason and maybe that was a remnant

wait is that

[agile void]

oh you didnt knew?

[rich grove]

+30% bullet damage from dynamo or everything

[stable forum]

from everything afaik

[rich grove]

I know some people were still super committed to doing memes with gun dynamo

[stable forum]

Infernus also has a fun +30% all damage taken

[rich grove]

the whole waaagh build

[stable forum]

oh sorry 40%

[rich grove]

but since I started playing it was always "here's one weirdo memeing, this build can be good but it's a rung below"

[stable forum]

meanwhile Billy has a 16% gun amp (his gun is also twice everyone else's dps but shhh)

[agile void]

also infinite uptime so long he keeps meleein

[rich grove]

even spirit haze wasnt necessarily in that bucket, they reworked knife because people were getting a widdle too silly with echo shard

[finite patrol]

it only has 10m range it's fine

[stable forum]

kinda, but most characters can get some amount of infinite uptime

[stable forum]

wait weh?

[stable forum]

truee

[rich grove]

the kid named fleetfoot and surge of power:

oh yeah lol knife used to make you stand dead still

[stable forum]

oh right that

make the most toxic haze build in the universe

20 seconds of hard cc

[finite patrol]

I think they should nerf Victor instead of by removing the interaction with e shift they should make his base movement speed even slower

holy shit laning with this guy is brutal

[agile void]

uuuuuhh

honestly

what other items give movespeed?

[finite patrol]

(I'm kidding)

[agile void]

like unconditional move speed

[rich grove]

in canon they replace his ankles with popsicle sticks

[agile void]

just enduring?

[stable forum]

enduring speed, frenzy, the bull one

[agile void]

so just enduring and frenzy

[stable forum]

i think there's one more maybe?

[finite patrol]

the thing that enduring speed upgrades into yes

[agile void]

if we want to add a few more

[rich grove]

juggernaut

[agile void]

veilwalker and fortitude

[rich grove]

we love running juggernaut on fatass characters chat

shadow wizard money gang

we love reducing fire rate

[stable forum]

fortitude is the only other one which is 'unconditional' but not realllyy

[stable forum]

...

firerate reduction
additive
a

[rich grove]

shhshshhshshhhshhhhhh

shhhh

shhhhhhhh

[stable forum]

Juggernaut is, very strangely, not good against characters actually building gun

it is good against characters who aren't building gun though!

[agile void]

me buying supressor when im against mirage, haze, wraith, mina, infernus and mcginnins team

[rich grove]

(yes you should build plated 99.999999% of the time unless jugg has offensive applications)

[stable forum]

just buy resiliences >.>

[rich grove]

no plated is significantly better

[agile void]

there is a point where getting more health pool

[rich grove]

by a landslide

[agile void]

doesnt let you win

[stable forum]

tbh i think a lot of my build choice things are simply

[agile void]

you just lose slower

[stable forum]

phantom games
end in 30 minutes

so you don't get to buy plated over resilience

[rich grove]

oh sure

[finite patrol]

haze does not try to solo base when they are 3 down and she has a 16 kill streak instead of going mid with you?

revolutionary

[rich grove]

but we are also talking about carries being enough of a problem to- AAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

akira scream.gif

[finite patrol]

giving thresh flashbacks

[stable forum]

ur ending the game with less than 40k souls up in here

[agile void]

remember

remember the times you lost base guardians because you didnt wanted to be lane janitor

thres

[stable forum]

this still happens
in phantom

[rich grove]

gghghhghhhgghhggggghggggg

[agile void]

remember those times your patron goes to phase 2 because you didnt cleaned

[rich grove]

but I wanna build rage

but I wanna burgerbox

its not fair.....

[agile void]

GO CLEAN

[rich grove]

[agile void]

besides just buy decay and you build up rage remotely

[stable forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68WFbcOXBDI

[rich grove]

burgerboxing has gotta be one of my favourite esports terms of art ever

it really just sounds like what it is

[stable forum]

eat the boxes?

[rich grove]

no

[agile void]

punch each otehr

[stable forum]

a

[rich grove]

it refers to shitfighting constantly because you have zero concept of macro and zoomer attention span so you must int into the enemy team at all times, obj or your own health be damned

[stable forum]

okay, so it doesn't mean holding q

[rich grove]

I mean it does kind of sound like that too lmfao

especially when everyone keeps fucking up their parries

those do be burgers and they are boxing

[stable forum]

I will master the airdash parry

obliterate abrams

stars and steel airdash parry makes heavy melees hilariously unsafe

[agile void]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1m6dlbg/hmm_i_wonder_what_our_abrams_is_doing_probably/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[stable forum]

idk if other people do the airdash parry thing

i think it's
theoretically?
doable on reaction?

[finite patrol]

sure you can hit jump shift f and aim in one second

[stable forum]

i'm bad at doing it on reaction, the two airdash parries I've hit have been prediction-ish where someone has been holding q

iunno. it's a fun little gimmicky piece for me.

I guess I should try buying Counterspell more to have more opportunities for it

[ivory reef]

it is yeah

I did it to save @earnest verge once

cause i'm fucking COOL actually

[stable forum]

oh nice

[ivory reef]

you have a ton of time cause you can like, see your friend get parried and then the enemy starts doing a loony tunes windup to punch them

just get in there

[stable forum]

ah, yeah, in that situation it shouldn't be hard

[ivory reef]

it's the main situation yeah

[stable forum]

eh, I was thinking of using it to prevent enemies from wiffing heavy melees

which if you can do on reaction just obliterates anyone attempting to do a heavy melee

but that's a bit unreasonable

[agile void]

the nefarius HMC/fleetfoot tech:

[stable forum]

yeah, Heavy Melee Cancel would be the only way to evade it

[agile void]

https://youtu.be/L8bo_LlDSnk

[finite patrol]

does anyone have recommendations for good (current) intro deadlock stuff? I know deathys videos are good but they are kinda all over the place

trying to teach my gf how to play

[verbal rock]

Depends on the characters. I like Piggy. But he's fairly focused on Doorman and Paige.

[finite patrol]

she picked 7, warden, and bebop

i recced M&K abrams, and wraith

looking at a gun doorman guide

nooooo

[feral umbra]

Wait they changed it?

Cause uhhhhhhh that’s pretty big

[finite patrol]

no the guide is wrong

[feral umbra]

That’s better than Lucky Shot vs Armor now

Oh phew

[finite patrol]

I'm emailing lightbringer

[rich grove]

rip he doesnt know about the bug

[finite patrol]

bug? I thought the interaction was intended (despite being very silly)

[rich grove]

oh

I thought ap rounds was meant to go thru plated

but didnt due to bugs

[finite patrol]

apr 100% should beat plated

as of right now it's kind of dreadful except against like a couple bullet blocking heroes

[finite patrol]

my toxic take is that they should really change the item named armour piercing rounds so that it beats the item called plated armour

[rich grove]

cringe and fucked up

smdh

[finite patrol]

cancelled again 😔

[quiet sapphire]

cancelled like a bullet hitting plated armor...

[finite patrol]

i keep running into bebop + mina lanes and this is just a really nasty combo im not sure what to do about it aside spirit barrier

[ivory reef]

the chicken guy

andrew chicken?

something like that

[finite patrol]

oh nice thanks

[feral umbra]

lol, remembering that AP rounds let you pierce Kelvin bubble

[finite patrol]

ap rounds is deeply cursed

[rich grove]

they say it pierces through enemies

kelvin dome is the enemy of humanity

[finite patrol]

as a Kelvin player I resent that

[quiet sapphire]

your honour if Mr. Hathorne really was a Friend of Humanity—

then why did I get a collat with Fairfax patented AP rounds?

[agile void]

the esport community is putting you on a cross for your sins

[somber creek]

https://youtu.be/wIuQfm1Y9rE?si=xaBZNun97xo0JWKK

[autumn field]

Wait is there really a pure gun yamato?

I thought she was hybrid or spirit

I’m doing the deadlock wordle and someone had the most gun drifter build ever on a Yamato

[rich grove]

yeah there is a gunmato

it's mostly meme but it used to be much better

[mild flume]

so what I'm hearing is that I should learn kelvin

[finite patrol]

chances are high he's gonna get nerfed again.

will it matter? it hasn't really so far

if you like support with excellent mobility that's also surprise 600 damage and the best team fight split in the game he's great

[near current]

its dogshit bait

[finite patrol]

forgoing the sword that literally can't miss for her gun seems wild indeed

[rich grove]

i think her ult used to (maybe still does) give infinite ammo

[agile void]

yamato in midlane when the bridge had a stupidly tall ledge

[stable forum]

it has a small firerate boost on t1

it also has, uh, 40 (60)% to both resists, immunity to cc (which deadlock calls 'status effects', but that 'status effects' doesn't include eg shreds or Afterburn), and an on-cast debuff purge (unlisted for some reason idk)

[finite patrol]

does it say she can cast it while stunned in the desc?

[agile void]

jno

[finite patrol]

hahah

[agile void]

stun doesnt allow you to do anything

you cant even cast actives

technically stun is stronger than curse because it locks you down in one place, unable to do shit

[finite patrol]

https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2025-update.87198/

Gun man is kill. bell now does EVEN MORE DAMAGE

[rich grove]

is that a holliday jump pad or is that the fart vents

[finite patrol]

assuming the brap

that's a pretty big change

otherwise it'd be under hplliday

[rich grove]

maybe fair, fart vent escapes were basically unstoppable

unless you yourself had some ridiculous mobility like a maj leap or lash

0.6s looks short on paper but is probably pretty generous in reality

[finite patrol]

yeah this seems like a good change but I'm 100% going to get caught

[finite patrol]

as foretold

kinda less than I expected?

but pretty significant

[ivory reef]

You might really like him yeah

Very interesting space control

[finite patrol]

you haven't lived until you've rescue beamed an ally into the sky and safety while moving at the speed of yeah

shift nerf is huge

45s cd

I was thinking closer to 30

no change to aura of suffering interaction so you're still probably doing that

[merry verge]

Reactive Barrier getting touched feels right, some matchups it kind of felt like turning off the enemies interaction

just a lil tap though

You could Cube shifted folks, I didn't even know that lmao

[finite patrol]

hol up they buffed rusted barrel again

?????

[agile void]

• Ethereal Shift: Can no longer target an ethereal shifted ally with things like Rescue Beam, Viscous Cube, etc

YOU COULD DO THAT?

[agile void]

honestly rusted barrel is kind of slept on

And I dont think anyone buys it unless they are concious

aka, actually making choices rather than just following the build

[finite patrol]

it's super slept on

it's a huge fuckoff button with solid stats

[agile void]

still, if you are anyone that shoots spirit

you are better off getting supressor

[finite patrol]

800 means it's lane tech which suppressor isn't really

[agile void]

still, if you can, why not make them lose fire rate if you are in an active fight with them?

unless you are willing to commit the 2400 for disarm

[rich grove]

it's harder to upkeep consistently

rusted is point and click and almost 100% uptime and offensive benefits beyond passive stat investment bonii

[finite patrol]

yeah you don't have to commit the 2400

[rich grove]

there are exceptions like seven or infern

[finite patrol]

remember when we were playing against that gun doorman

[rich grove]

yes -_-

[finite patrol]

I got the first kill after picking up rusted barrel

so that basically won us the game

[rich grove]

we legit had to chain hate crime him

[finite patrol]

bro could not stop laning

[autumn field]

is it just me or is deadlock crashing every time its run

[rich grove]

ime this happens when mm servers are being fucky

[autumn field]

like, crashes at the valve screen?

[rich grove]

yep

just fuckin explodes

doesnt even get to the valve logo half the time

boots up and then hangs

[autumn field]

damn.

[warped ridge]

me looking at deadlock

Is it ethical to actually play the game right now if I don't try to win 100%

For some reason I just remembered they don't have two different queues

Like I know I already don't want to deal with toxic people and it doesn't seem like valve is doing anything about them rn (which is w/e I guess, could just turn off all chat)

But at the same time, unless I fully know what builds to use and counter and actually using them, I feel like I'm just throwing

Ehh it's w/e

Not my fault they're the same rank as me

They can always find people to queue with on the deadlock discord if they're worried that bad about randoms

[autumn field]

why play if its not fun

[warped ridge]

if you're asking me? usually whether or not I have fun depends on how toxic people are being, else there's a ballpark range where I can still enjoy myself even when losing

if you mean people in general

I could give you a million reasons why I can basically claim they have insecurities or some other american school system level reasoning that they don't get enough attention elsewhere in life

but in reality it's probably a fair number of individuals can't stand losing

like I'm fully aware sometimes I don't like it too, cause ya know, sometimes it does suck, esp if you feel like you shouldn't be losing, this is exactly why a lot of people don't like extraction shooters, cause they make a bunch of effort getting gear and then lose it duesome random odd chance an NPC lands a lucky headshot

but it's like, I generally enjoy the learning process of losing, cause I think learning in general is fun

I just don't like people being toxic when people lose cause they're too busy focused on blaming someone else rather than getting better, and the person who actually had a poor performance, going 0/12 or w/e, then has to put up with that ontop of trying to figure out w/e the game is

and sometimes I'll get the toxic thoughts too

but big whoop, people choose bad teamfights, it happens, and obviously to an extent it's my fault for not stealing farm and souls where I can so I can solo carry because I'm not comfortable with being at that point yet, nor am I going to bark orders at people using moba-sense from smite and league when I don't understand deadlock yet

I'll probably start telling people what I think they should do at some point, but Im waaaaay too early to understand the game yet because I know my usual knowledge from smite or league doesn't apply

like I know there's that goofy knock-down item that hits people in the air

I've had like, half success with it, so I know it works, sometimes, but I also know sometimes it doesn't work, and Idk why exactly

[near current]

not really, youre playing with people at your level in theory

as long as youre trying to improve and win every match its fine

[warped ridge]

ehhhh

win? Idk about that

improve? yeah definitely

like I could say "yeah I'm trying to win" but if I don't know the general consensus on how certain stuff works that's just willful ignorance

wait did they change rank display again?

I guess I can say I'm trying to win in the future by just learning about the game by playing it

[near current]

limit testing is different than not trying to win

[warped ridge]

what's limit testing?

[near current]

the goal of each match is to win and thats the shared thing your team has in common

[warped ridge]

like to be clear, I try to win lane

which I assume is uhh

going positive + destroying enemy towers while yours is still up

or alternatively, outfarming them souls-wise

[near current]

trying things out, seeing what you can get away with etc.

[warped ridge]

oh then yeah def

like I killed a warden who had 32k souls vs my 30k souls on yamato by just playing like a rat

like ideally my goal in lane is to have it so both me and my teammate have 3k souls up on the opponent with their tower down and ours still up

but I'm assuming item power spikes exist

also I think this game doesn't have buildable items? I could be wrong

like it's either sequential buy or single buy

[finite patrol]

there are levels to playing to win. you should always try to win as that is the goal of the game , but that doesn't mean that you need to be hmc parry baiting perfect efficient farm rotations with good calls, counter itemization, and 90% accuracy

I'm not sure your skill level but it doesn't sound like you need to be super on comms and on point in Randoms but also you will encounter toxic people because Randoms right.

it doesn't have recipes no.

you buy headshot booster which you can sell later or upgrade to Sharpshooter

[warped ridge]

yeah

[warped ridge]

idk what hmc parry baiting is but I've already done some parry baiting because people at archon 1 or w/e don't know how to not hit Q

[finite patrol]

q is such a nice button to hold ☺️

[warped ridge]

it's so funny

Idk why they hit it so much, they get lazy about hitting it, it's lke doing the same rotation in a shooter over and over again

like I'm gonna catch on in like 3 attempts

but tbf Idk the player base demographic

[finite patrol]

parry baiting is when you trick someone to parry so you can heavy melee them though

[warped ridge]

hm?

oh heavy melee

yeah I do that already

sometimes at least

I probably play a bit too passively early on

but fwiw in mobas if you have a random in your lane it's smarter to play safe to gauge their aggressiveness

most opponents don't pay enough attention to playstyle changes so by playing passive you can abuse them being overly aggressive and get a free pick when your teammate is going in because they think it'll be another 2v1 trade

well, not at w/e mmr I'm at

it's the one benefit of playing like

different mobas

because they teach you different micro

like smite usually doesn't have any super amazing item spikes, it's primarily by abilities, it might be different now adays with smite 2 but I kinda just stomp most people last time I played

league had a goofy amount of disparities where suffering as riven or kindred taught me that you have to willingly ignore the part of your brain that something is safe after you knowledge check the opponent

or ya know

you can play darius top lane

and get free kills at level 2

because being below gold means people don't understand rogue meta builds and I only got to gold once just to say I could do it

bush warrior poppy my beloved

tbf that might be the other thing is I wanna try super goofy builds but Idk how builds work rn past gun or spirit

[magic summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKP1I7IocYU

It's an interesting question and the video is looking at Warcraft as its example but it is very much just something to look at through the context of video gaming as a whole where there is a cooperative element

[warped ridge]

this video is probably going to upset me much like the call of duty ghosts video did

that being said Idk if it's gonna make me super depressed like the call of duty ghosts video did

oh yeah this video is gonna make me passively suicidal I feel

[magic summit]

Ya know, not the reaction I expected.

[finite patrol]

sounds like you should not watch it

[warped ridge]

yeah, gonna be a hard struggle

I probably should watch it because there's things to be learned

and honestly, given the type of learning it was, he might actually have a video directly about my issues with engaging with content and society as a whole because ultimately, like with the call of duty ghosts video, a lot of the things he's bringing up I've already thought long and hard about, however, I've looked purely as a reflective of "is it really okay for me to do things" and ultimately the videos kind of help re-affirm that, yes, it is, but also the way I approached it originally had some big sketchy aspects that made my approach incorrect, and in turn makes me less of a person because my approach was flawed, which is why it becomes important to then actually watch the video, because you can't get better if you don't know what you're doing is wrong

so even if I came to a similar ballpark of conclusion, because I was approaching it from the wrong angle of lens, I'm ultimately a worse human being than if I was just wrong entirely and learned during the points of failure rather than needing the literal explanation

[agile void]

Worth mentioning

probably in a few months we will get Aram

[bleak thicket]

leech needs both bullet lifesteal and spirit lifesteal which i think is the closest youll get to a dota buildable item

[agile void]

or non comp queue

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1oamyu4/hopoo_is_about_to_cook_again_with_this_new/

we know something is going to come by january or february

[bleak thicket]

@ivory reef time to pick one of three things

[agile void]

there is also that convoy thingy that was supposedly in testing

and that card game

there is so much shit that is apparently in the works or we know from second hand info

[warped ridge]

oooo

that would be good to learn items

[ivory reef]

yes good

[autumn field]

i think there'd be something nice about having a 2 lane mode or whatnot

shorter matches and whatnot

[ivory reef]

this is the future of moba design mark my words

[bleak thicket]

they should add a gacha box you buy to get a random item

[autumn field]

oh wait i just saw roguelite

[bleak thicket]

and its like
"here this is 20% cheaper, but its random"

[agile void]

that is just a cs2 crate

[warped ridge]

2 lane doesn't gurantee shorter matches tbf

[autumn field]

yeah but you get what i mean

[agile void]

just, doesnt affect regular gameplay

[bleak thicket]

no no, like during the game

[agile void]

I mean

[autumn field]

smaller maps, smaller teams, and some way to accelerate gameplay in general

[agile void]

risk of rain team

[bleak thicket]

want ethereal shift?
its either 6400, or roll the gacha on the crates :3

[agile void]

I wouldnt discount it being a drop box every boon

actually

iirc?

[bleak thicket]

you know
deadlock heroes would make pretty decent risk of rain 2 heroes tbh

[agile void]

glutensnake did a prototype of that?

https://youtu.be/WBM9snj_WL8

anyway

I would appreciate some aram just to be able to practice aiming or using heroes I dont feel comfortable with

[warped ridge]

if they did 3v3 1 lane with jg like smite has joust that would be interesting

but Idk how icefrog works

so that might be a dumb idea

[stable forum]

yes
go play for fun
make it the matchmaker's problem.

I turn off chat every game.

Optimize for yourself not for optimal winrate%

example
I'm trying to buy Magic Carpet on Billy every game.

[stable forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1281742836878020722/1432026516698693722/7158F51.MP4?ex=68ff8e1f&is=68fe3c9f&hm=24f8babf35cf1b3a6382549e87e89da661d7b9188f7e825b305944e638072542&

I hate it so much

[agile void]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Qm_cRHtEoTq-29CznJUalYsRdsKfsDK

@bleak thicket @ivory reef @rich grove Deathy had people complain about his coaching sessions clog the feed of his videos, so he moved the membership thingy and made the coaching that is already in the channel free to watch

helps that overall all of these are 1 month old or less

[shy quiver]

long bacon...

[warped ridge]

Who's the person on the right?

New char?

[astral lava]

thats pocket

[warped ridge]

Can NBs be lesbians?

[astral lava]

yes of course they can be

[warped ridge]

Neat

Unfortunately for them, the intimidating horse lash is just off screen mid-air

[astral lava]

they both have invulnerable moves to avoid his ult its fine

[agile void]

unfortunate I say with suspiciously anvil shaped active in hand

[warped ridge]

This is true

Lash's main enemy is counting

[merry verge]

Pocket's main enemy is Also Mina

Get them out of that bacon to safety

[short quiver]

Don't think she can wear it anyway

[bleak thicket]

Oh hell yeah

Thanks for the heads up

[finite patrol]

Mina Paige sounds like a fucking nightmare lane good god

[agile void]

that is why he is rightfully scared of the lesbian couple

they be having sesbian lex in between waves

[ivory reef]

mina paige strike me as like

the straightest girl and the acest girl in deadlock

if I had to pick gays they'd be last on the list

I guess I can see paige

but oh my god mina is bare minimum bi

she even calls lash hot doesn't she?

[finite patrol]

Mina and Paige both seem very straight

[ivory reef]

I get why Sandra thinks he's hot.

yup found it

[finite patrol]

Paige has the hots for Victor

[ivory reef]

I think even mina has the hots for victor

he's just hot

[finite patrol]

mmm I think you'll find he's rather cold

[ivory reef]

He'll model for me one day.

[finite patrol]

it's very amusing how horny the characters in this game are

[earnest verge]

my read of Mina is she probably considers herself straight and includes Pocket in that umbrella

[rich grove]

mina would only be gay for the clout

[finite patrol]

there's a great edit of Mina and Pocket where Mina is saying his pronouns are they them and I think that's probably accurate

[ivory reef]

Mina is like, so oldschool I don't know if she's even thinking on the scale of orientations. there's people she's allowed to marry and people she's not

and it's all just games past that point

that is kinda how the old marriage meta worked for women

if she can marry pocket I dunno if she even, like, cares about anything else

also in terms of mina paige interactions I think it's incredibly funny that mina reveals that she's a nerd who does read

[rich grove]

I don't even know if pocket told her about the pronies thing

[ivory reef]

mina: secretly reads the exact same shit

'secretly'

she's so straight

I mean straight in like. not even an orientation kinda way. like in the cultural sense

she's Straight

[rich grove]

it's incredibly funny that she actually read the books as prep to become a Woman of High Repute

[finite patrol]

Mina McGinnis Drifter and Doorman are probably just the worst people in the game. Is there anyone I'm missing?

[ivory reef]

isn't geist a serial killer?

[rich grove]

it's incredibly funny that everyone assumes she killed her husband when iirc he in fact was the one person she did not

she is otherwise a serial killer so the hitrate is 99.99%

shiv's line for when ally geist dies is "...this is probably a net positive for the world"

[ivory reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn_C9nQ_Ri0 13:20 -> 13:40

[finite patrol]

yeah forgot about her thanks

[astral lava]

paige wants mirage and victor bad. Mina also thinks victor is hot but in a funny way

side note vypers lines with mirage are incredible

[finite patrol]

vypers lines are just incredible across the board

[stable forum]

...seven?

yeah, 7

Haze arguably

given your putting the MIC gal on the list, putting the blackops government spook on there as well probably makes sense

[agile void]

let me go get something

[ivory reef]

i just posted that

[twilit roost]

Haze is pretty funny for having Freddy Kruger powers and her ult is just spin

[agile void]

yeah but its still funny how she cant even retort it

also people who dont want to watch the video directly

[merry verge]

What's so bad about Doorman

Other than his words and actions

[agile void]

.....

his words and actions?

[twilit roost]

Good point, he has the twink pass

[agile void]

tumblr sexy man counterargument

[merry verge]

Driftdoor is a baffling ship, tumblr, way to keep up your track record

[agile void]

there is a minimun of morality when apparently she can kill her grandson

[twilit roost]

Eldritch Entity X Ancient Killer

[agile void]

and that is categorized as the lowest point possible for geist

[merry verge]

I think it's mostly spawned from the unused extended Drifter Ults, he gets real... personal

[agile void]

haze is confirmed not a bad person

she is like, the 9 to 5 perfect example

[rich grove]

haze loves musical theater in her downtime from being a cia agent

how can you hate my goat

smdh

[final osprey]

Bisexuality hasnt been invented yet in Deadlock to my knowledge. Like it's set before such ideas came into the public view of queer people.

[agile void]

yeah she is so normal outside her job

[somber creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279436508662861824/1430737788139208825/bafkreia4jpomjjqajoykt7f655ngcvj7ahybjgo7jprnf5r62gfbjsg5ce40jpeg.png?ex=6900cca6&is=68ff7b26&hm=9e8f738e06f23b87eb5d167c036ecd0fe21e9080e7803e5ac321c199b269b627&

[agile void]

and she doesnt even have like bloodlust

which arguably people like shiv or vindicta do have

[somber creek]

Viper is definitely Bi

[agile void]

she just comes, is the government dog during the 9 to 5, punches her card, then goes back home

lash fits but that depends of how much is kayfabe and how much is actual being a dick

I can read lash being an asshole, but It is so... specific, that makes me think its kayfabe or just posturing for the sake of his brand

basically, he could say meaner shit to others i feel

[merry verge]

He's the Heel but he's also a method actor so it's always

His charity for kids that kind of suck is real, perhaps

[agile void]

I can genuinely see the devs making the charity canon

[rich grove]

yeah I think lash is just a really good heel

[agile void]

or leave it ambiguous

[rich grove]

god forbid we get a guy does some crowdwork

[merry verge]

The way Vyper shatters him

So good

[agile void]

Nah, not even that

lash doesnt get "personal"

unless its bebop

there is a tier of assholery like drifter "I would have made you watch as I kill your kids" to talon

or doorman ult voicelines

that lash doesnt reach, or at least not that much

[rich grove]

bebop being his only loss is surely perfect storyline fodder for him being a jagoff

[merry verge]

You just know it was brutal too

Got snatched midjump

[rich grove]

lore accurate bibbler

[agile void]

I would argue right now the one that needs their lore update is warden

[finite patrol]

it's time to change da world

[agile void]

I dont think he even talks to people on zipline, its just the patrons, and even Haze and seven are willing to do some conversation

[stable forum]

...yyeah, Warden is pretty isolated lore-wise

[merry verge]

Mans is just on business

[stable forum]

stars and steel

gimme a Haze / Warden interaction where it's like

Haze trying to conduct a background check on Warden

or Holiday trying to do that or something

[merry verge]

'Does -anyone- know who this guy is?'

[agile void]

is arc warden that stuck up over in dota?

[rich grove]

i believe warden is also on an old model

[stable forum]

likely!

[agile void]

confirmed since we dont know what cape the chars talk about

[stable forum]

Warden's whole lore is that he's the son of some alchemists who were supposed to guard New York against the occult and failed, and thustrained Warden

and now he's here to fuck up the ritual

[rich grove]

yeah it makes the bobby outfit a little weiird

although people talk about being confused by the hand

[stable forum]

...hm?

[rich grove]

and I'm really not sure what the hell they're talking about when a hand of glory is like one of The symbols of weird occult shit

[agile void]

if you check voicelines, they talk about warden having a cape

[rich grove]

plot twist: in the deadlock universe hats are called capes

[stable forum]

weird! That could just be outdated voicelines though

[agile void]

specifically kill ones

[quiet sapphire]

no no

they planned it for his new model

[finite patrol]

warden is batman which means that he's pockets dad

[stable forum]

or that could be a reference to uhh

[quiet sapphire]

he's going to have a cool cape

[stable forum]

Warden appearing heroic or whatever

but that's a bit of a stretch

like I could totally see Billy going 'hang up your cape idiot'

[rich grove]

it's in reference to warden's canonical favourite album, not all heroes wear capes by metro boomin

[quiet sapphire]

uhh let me try find confirmation for the cape thing

[rich grove]

[quiet sapphire]

but

[agile void]

pretty much in the literal sense

[quiet sapphire]

i know the shopkeeper also says like

"let me know if you ever want to pawn off that cape of yours"

[stable forum]

no, it's 'that caper gun'

'caper' is a descriptive word which means, uh, fancy, or similar?

gweh

[quiet sapphire]

cape or gun

[stable forum]

I swear this is a slang thing

[rich grove]

no that's because it shoots capers

[stable forum]

I could be absolutely wrong though

[rich grove]

like a potato gun

[merry verge]

The Curious Case of the Caper Case Caper..

[rich grove]

every time he reloads the gun he's just emptying another jar into there

[stable forum]

but I feel like I've heard caper(?) in other contexts as a positive descriptor

[stable forum]

especially in like, mafia america settings or similar. but I am not confident in this, and I don't know how to spell the thingy and a cursory examination says I'm crazy

[agile void]

dauntless didnt you also got confused with the urn thingy before when I corrected you?

[stable forum]

I swear 'caper' is a descriptor though

[stable forum]

yyeah. This is a different sort of confusion though!

[finite patrol]

I'm fulla souls here people

[stable forum]

stars and steel i want to permanently mute the urn

i keep hearing urn noises and going 'there's a person there???'

[quiet sapphire]

he's kind of grumpy and locked in in dota

[rich grove]

surely I haven't been forgotten!

[quiet sapphire]

damn he really only has 4 "meeting an ally" voicelines

[stable forum]

I guess I'm wrong about this! weird

[quiet sapphire]

i need to play phoenix dota 2,.,,,,

[stable forum]

hm

[agile void]

its not figurative

[stable forum]

I will note that both of those lines are comparatively old?

but, yeah, doesn't seem to be figurative

I wouldn't say that's a guarantee of 'warden will have a cape' but it's definitely a weird inconsistency for characters to mention warden as having a cape and then he doesn't

[quiet sapphire]

there's a sketch for his redesign floating somewhere where he has a cape

[granite heath]

You too could unleash the power of the sun on your enemies in the form of a giant laser beam.

[stable forum]

now, if one of the new characters said stuff about Warden having a cape, I'd be inclined to go 'yeah Warden will probably have a cape'

[rich grove]

that's a yamato design

[stable forum]

I hope Warden keeps his stupid hat though

[rich grove]

ohj top right

[stable forum]

it's funny

[rich grove]

i'm stupid

[quiet sapphire]

he is only sketched in

fair enough :P

he bought veil walker

and, paraphrasing Yoshi

[finite patrol]

wow wardens transition is going great

[quiet sapphire]

"[That sketch is] one of a few experimental concepts for warden."

[stable forum]

huh!

that's neat

[rich grove]

transitioned to sword user

[stable forum]

but, yes, I like Warden's stupid hat which covers the majority of his face and hides his eyes

[rich grove]

soldier tf2

[stable forum]

yes

[quiet sapphire]

soldier.

tf2.

[agile void]

im surprised we dont have rocket jumping yet

closest to that is shiv with his 2, and that is more force of nature, holliday, and viscous

[finite patrol]

I'm sure we'll get someone with explosive movement

[stable forum]

the issue is rocket jump is likely to be, um, a lot of mobility in a game like deadlock

i doubt it'd be bound to an alt-fire

[quiet sapphire]

don't think they'll do that as like a weapon thing

[agile void]

thing is, we already have ammunition in skills, charges

and we already have skills with cooldowns at like 8 or so with no cooldown reduction, like geist bomb/warden flask

[finite patrol]

yeah it should be on a skill like all the other movement abilities aside shiv

[finite patrol]

unless its gonna be a really minor boost (like shiv) but that would be dissatisfying for rocket jump

[ivory reef]

Okay but consider: what if it's a LONG reload

[finite patrol]

me buying qsr

[warm sonnet]

long item activation

[edgy fog]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CboNIuiyrh4

[ivory reef]

@sterile forum anyone wanna join our 3 stack

[stable forum]

Winged that's an individual named DeadLock and not the <@&1277035919182008330> role >.>

[ivory reef]

oh my god DX

thank you dauntless

[lavish grove]

I wonder if Deadlock59 likes deadlock

[stable forum]

perhaps we'll find out!

[feral umbra]

Can I get that Deadlock role, how do we sign up for that

Asking for myself

[ivory reef]

done

[bleak thicket]

it should be a self assignable role too

[finite patrol]

it is!

[finite patrol]

I could play in 20-30min, im just eating rn

[finite patrol]

think i needed to buy escalating that game.

which is not usually something id say

but i spent so much time sitting next to the enemies and didnt do enough damage

[mint latch]

Hello the people

I am getting into deadlock and wondering what other heroes that is similar to Seven

Actually

Imma go play the game first

[autumn field]

in what aspect?

[mint latch]

Lemme do my research on what Seven actually does first

[quiet sapphire]

zaps people

glad to help 👍

[warm sonnet]

Does Counterspell block Shiv's ult?

[agile void]

it blocks everything

it even blocks curse

[warped ridge]

Even melee?!

[agile void]

counterspell just makes it so you arent qffected by the spell that will hit you

[warm sonnet]

I thought so but Shiv is the perfect man

He could have been the exception

[agile void]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1oig7rh/not_a_dynamo_cosplay/

dynamo after the ritual

[agile void]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1oilv87/this_hurt_my_soul/

[finite patrol]

hell yes

[finite patrol]

@rich grove I noticed you haven't done this for me yet. comments?

[mint latch]

Yall know characters that's, I guess the term is hypercarry?

[finite patrol]

infernus is the best carry in the current patch

I think infernus or wraith probably have the best theoretical scaling

[mint latch]

Cool

Uhh, what kind of general "roles" that are in the game

[finite patrol]

it's very fluid.
the most concrete role is a backline damager. which is your traditional carry that farms a lot.

[mint latch]

What kind of supports are there?

[finite patrol]

supports include Kelvin, viscous, Paige, ivy, doorman

though ivy is currently very strong as a gun carry

backline damage, frontline bruiser, support, assassin are probably the best way I could classify the roles? and then there are initiators, counter initiators, pushers among those

and there's a lot of overlap. m&k is a front line initiator. Yamato is a frontliner but also and assassin and an initiator.

[mint latch]

I think I'll put Seven and Wraith on me list

How's Dynamo?

[finite patrol]

if you're just starting I wouldn't worry about who's good or strong tbh it will all change by the time you are good enough for that to matter

Dynamo is alright rn

solid support kit with da big team fight ult

[mint latch]

Nice

I'll put him on my list

I'm just trying to find characters who's vibe I like, and preferably, easy to pilot/get wins with

[finite patrol]

ah okay those three you picked are pretty simple to play though theres a fair amount of mastery with wraith and dynamo especially

[mint latch]

Who's the Elvis insert again? He got some vibes

[finite patrol]

shiv

frontliner / assassin

he has the execute skill

probably one of the harder characters in the game to play

[mint latch]

Yikes

[finite patrol]

very fun if you can figure him out

[mint latch]

I'll hold back from putting him on my list for now

[finite patrol]

he is one of the characters with an alternative fire mode and it pushes him back (which means you can use it for movement)

but you have to be able to hit skill shots, be able to manage 1.5 extra resources that most characters dont have, play frontline, and be able to schmoove to play him really well

i would definitely recommend starting with like 3 characters you like, playing some games with each of them, then trying everyone

[mint latch]

Well I got my three so far

Now to actually go through the tutorial

[finite patrol]

have fun!

[finite patrol]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1ojbt7c/bebop_10_second_stun_air_vent_combo/

<@&1277035919182008330> Wednesday Night Deadlock in roughly 30 minutes! Who's in?

[rich grove]

I thiiiink so

[wintry arrow]

Probable

[finite patrol]

the likely ones

[verbal rock]

May not be able to make game 1. But 2 is doable.

[autumn field]

I want to deadlock but I’m shit at locking my dead

[rich grove]

funnily enough ill def be around for the first game but maybe not the second cause i wanna take out the laundry at some point

[finite patrol]

come along!

[autumn field]

I only play Haze and Vyper these days lmao

I’d play Mina if I could, but Mina is hardddddd

[finite patrol]

https://discord.gg/uGJkqkze

Party: 4F1K2

@rich grove @wintry arrow Room for 1 right now

OK

[feral umbra]

I’m gonna be late I just woke up

[stable forum]

very mildly disagree with this

Shiv's 'hard' in the sense that you have to hit a skillshot repeatedly i guess?

oh, 'one of the harder' not 'one of the hardest'

yeah that's totally fair.

[finite patrol]

FYFFZ

<@&1277035919182008330> Room for 2

[rich grove]

it's... it's everywhere

by it i mean suds

fuuuuuck

[mint latch]

I like the build item notes, very useful

[somber creek]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1ojbt7c/bebop_10_second_stun_air_vent_combo/

[finite patrol]

infernus bot has been stun locked by bebop since I first posted this link here :3c

[magic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-bebop-brick-valve-frozenfroh-gif-5215022515693311456

[autumn field]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/883839698970243072/1084473966736986274/caption.gif

[mint latch]

Things to note:
Know when to farm

[ivory reef]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxDDPJI2u7-Qpz3yqqZa719fXW2LnZK5tl?si=5l2XDQ2iHJasagjW

[agile void]

I say in my head, as I see the wraith farming the t3 in yellow and ignoring the wave in walker that died because she just kept farming and everyone else assumed she was going to catch the wave

[mint latch]

Doing a 4 stack as my first few games might not be a good idea

[twilit roost]

goated duo name on the kelvin and yamato

[autumn field]

lol

[mint latch]

Shiv thinking their team is doing fine enough.

Meanwhile, Yellow lane (my lane) somehow already lost a shrine:

[mint latch]

Quote:
"Yellow doing so bad I didn't even notice."

[granite heath]

anyone know what ability_golden_idol is?

[rich grove]

could be clone bullets but those are spirit I thpught

actually what am I saying this is probably you punching the vending machines

just realised you're the sinclair

[granite heath]

I don't think I was punching vending machines that fight

[rich grove]

were you running urn

it's urn

[stable forum]

Why you should buy Magic Carpet on Billy:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1281742836878020722/1433679902607016077/SPOILER_image.png?ex=690591f5&is=69044075&hm=2884864b0ee3d0d7f2bd102bba40710bce94aed2919e0720d25e30a452c95189&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1281742836878020722/1433679786475257906/4CFC551.MP4?ex=690591d9&is=69044059&hm=e3f8d505095519262f9a47d7b981c45dd44a3272ae82ce05bc0f08dffbd26325&

[mild flume]

some unbelievably greedy farming at the end

lmao

love it

[earnest verge]

hey, gotta min those maxes

little micro-optimizations matter, even when I'm retreating I will preferentially slide through urns unless I'm super worried

[autumn field]

fucking windows not including HEVC decoders in their fucking os

[stable forum]

I was fiiine. Goats gotta eat.

plus like I gotta defend the guardian, right?

[stable forum]

I feel like I do this without thinking about it now.

[mild flume]

yeah ofc just turning to shoot them seemed intense

I would have been gonezo

but hey you got away with it

[stable forum]

I mean I kept moving

but, yeah, fair

[quiet sapphire]

billy "I didn't hear no bell" deadlock

[agile void]

@stable forum

ah shit sorry for the ping, didnt mean to

[stable forum]

a

[finite patrol]

holy shit

[agile void]

Score board
Haze: 1/12/6, dying in jungle after every farm dropping a 1k bag
Dynamo: 1/8/12

[bleak thicket]

Its true, dynamo is a bag magnet
I think i got a 1.8k bag the other day from a mcginnis

[merry verge]

Bag has to be the best form of this mechanic, it's so damnb satisfying

other mobas don't have enough swiping things out from under folk

[finite patrol]

I love feeding bag

[granite heath]

This is why Aegis steals are always incredibly hype.

[merry verge]

The million dollar slam.. how could I forget

[bleak thicket]

it really is a ton of fun
and honestly them switching it so you have to heavy melee to collect it, 10/10 change
it just adds so many layers on top of just stealing the bah

[twilit roost]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1okszqx/drew_a_comic_cover_feat_drifter_shiv/

[rich grove]

F minus zero marks, drifter's hand should be lower

🫤

[twilit roost]

he already has yaoi hands

[agile void]

A funny example of stealing shit from someone

the half a second not realizing what just happened

[wintry arrow]

Everytime I don't play Pocket for a while, going back to play this trenchcoat maniac makes me feel like I have an entire second braincell going on.

Every play feels wonderful.

[finite patrol]

a whole extra braincell ☺️

[finite patrol]

that's a good one

[twilit roost]

you should take a break from the game...now!

[rich grove]

@magic summit https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/s/CqDc4FguBs

pocket can three punch the slot machines because of barrage

[somber creek]

wh

what

[mild flume]

what

[finite patrol]

barrage amps all of pockets damage when you hit with it and apparently that includes the damage dealt to sinners

[rich grove]

it's weird because tmk literally no other melee amp acts like this

not crushing fists, not spirit snatch, nothing

[finite patrol]

probably not intentional but valve are perverts

[finite patrol]

I think trophy collector might be cracked

[twilit roost]

Those are famous last words

[finite patrol]

potentially deserves a nerf it's so much value rn

[rich grove]

i will never buy this item on principle for how many people have tossed my games buying it

[wintry arrow]

It's terrible except for the times it's excellent.

[autumn field]

trophy collector yamato whose 20k above:

[warped ridge]

Ooooo

A pubstomp item to abuse longer games from lower ranked queues

Delightful

[feral umbra]

It’s pretty good on Lash

Cause it gives range and mobility and a little bit of constant cash to counteract just goomba stomping from lane to lane

You don’t lose stacks and gain them on assists so why not

[warped ridge]

I mean I'd just treat it like playing kindred

If I dont get all the stacks, gg go next, not like my team was gonna play like a team anyways

Idk if I'd ever buy it without specifically choosing it tho

I try my best to read people's undecipherable notes on situational buys

[autumn field]

seriously though if you're already stomping might as well speed it up, lol

[warped ridge]

I mean

If you're stomping you should just end the game

But I will admit that sometimes relies more on teammates than preferred

So it's less of a "yes this an amazing buy" it's more of a "I think my team is going to let this game exist longer than it should so this is a safe buy"

Unless you're a char that struggles to get farm/kills

Then yeah prob worth it as a kinda support fill item if you got nothing better to buy

Since it counts on assists

[earnest verge]

there's no doubt some niche scenario where it makes sense to get if you expect to be in close to every single fight pretty early on

but most times you'd get it it'd be a lot smarter to just go for Juggernaut instead

[warped ridge]

on sup? yeah prob

like I said, fill item it looks like for sup when nothing better to buy

with of course niche scenarios excluded cause afaik deadlock is like dota where you're best getting a mcguffin for the blorbo scenario against gluppo

[ivory reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70aeUadWDS4

[finite patrol]

it's definitely an item specific to support and you do have to be roaming and ganking

but I play Kelvin viscous and doorman so I buy it pretty often on those heroes and it feels good every time

[agile void]

even then its risky because you basically buy the item to trust your team to kill enemies for you while you are out supporting

and like others said, you are delaying your spike by getting something that will give you power overtime

especially when with that same money you can get a counter item like knockdown or silence wave

[warped ridge]

In a team based game, if you are playing as a team, you assume team takes the correct actions

If it's solo then yeh, ymmv

[finite patrol]

I think the stats are good enough to justify it.

[astral lava]

After its fully stacked sure. Before then not so much

[twilit roost]

can't wait till december

[magic summit]

Trophy collectors big issue is that it looks good if you are looking at the soul count at the end of the game but you are going a long while of that being an item that does nothing

So it can be deceptive in its value

[agile void]

this is why I say that maybe leaving it some stacks by default but allowing the item to lose stacks on death would make it more useful

dunno, 4? 8 stacks by default?

[magic summit]

No

[agile void]

the problem of it is how it literally is a dead item until you get some assists or kills

[finite patrol]

once you get half stacks (8) it's a solid 3200 item without looking at souls per minute.
+200 hp
+4 OoCR
+3.85 m/s sprint

• 8 ability range

[magic summit]

This has actually been a thing for a while but it's like. A fun fact rather than a useful tool. If you are close enough to barrage you've got 15 seconds to hit a sinners and that is not enough distance those people won't hunt you down

[bleak thicket]

i think its honestly fine

its a very "win harder" item

and honestly it already procs off assists

you dont even need to get the kill yourself

[mild flume]

I think 8 stacks usually takes a wee while

unless the game is a total fighting mess

[rich grove]

well the good news is that (almost) nobody in here is in strong enough lobbies to not be burgerboxing 24/7

[finite patrol]

i went from archon 3 to emissary 6 over the weekend learning viscous lmao

i did not have an easy time with that thing

[rich grove]

with the oneshot mystic/express shot/ball build or full support

[finite patrol]

i tried the express shot build but learning to do those timing shenanigans while also learning punches and ball was too much so swapped to full support and started figuring it out better

[rich grove]

ball is.. strange

I initially thought it was going to be like wrecking ball OW but it's really not

[finite patrol]

i find it to be the hardest part of the kit

[rich grove]

the fact that bouncing off the wall is the fastest way to do turns is upsetting

[finite patrol]

it does not move how you'd think it would move

[rich grove]

it really fuckin doesn't

the W key is the enemy

[finite patrol]

i think thats just deadlock

fuuuuck the source engine

[mild flume]

sorry thresh

its pango ult

your overwatch has no power here

[rich grove]

🗿

[rich grove]

spinbotters in counterstrike:

[agile void]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1ol2om8/the_doorman_cosplay/

[ivory reef]

Omg!

[finite patrol]

this is so top tier

[agile void]

https://youtu.be/J6q8c0VV_Po

quick video explanation of how the Wander tempo build works

[ivory reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK35d72yyfI what's eido using to see all the enemy items when he holds tab?

[agile void]

mod

there is a mod that lets you check directly from tab what everyone carries rather than having to check everyone

this is the popul-what the fuck

anyway

@ivory reef https://gamebanana.com/mods/623518
this should be the mod

it also shows you buff and midboss respawn

[ivory reef]

thaanks

can we install mods without getting banned? I assume so

[rich grove]

yeh

[agile void]

yeah so far they dont mind, main reason why we are also capable of changing models

hud stuff is the stuff that kinda skirts over the line, but on paper all this info is already visible or can be assumed off of timings, like bridge buffs being every 5 minutes and so

the mod just makes it quicker

it will actually be a problem if its like getting rid of the fog of war/knowing where is everyone on the map

[finite patrol]

headshotting an entire clip through the veil

[warped ridge]

ahh yes, dota, a mod of warcraft, and then deadlock, being made by dota devs, and warcraft, getting an mmo called world of warcraft, and world of warcraft having mandatory mods, as deadlock will need when no hud udpates

[finite patrol]

<@&1277035919182008330> 25 minutes until wednesday night deadlock is on!

[feral umbra]

I just woke up I’m gonna nab a shower real fast but I’ll be there

[rich grove]

my pc is dead

[finite patrol]

aw fuck for real?

[rich grove]

yeah

well

it's more like it's in suspended animation

it lives for maybe 5 minutes at a time and then kills itself with no apparent rationale therein

at the point at which my pc is functioning based off of what I can only call "devil magic" I think it's time to rehouse the thing, at least

[finite patrol]

rip that sucks

[rich grove]

it had a good run, given the case is so old I can't reverse image search it, nor does the vendor I originally got it from have a manual

if I wasn't using this laptop for linux and linux-related work I would give it a shot

[wintry arrow]

It is about that time

[rich grove]

there's also a non-zero chance of insects being in here

[finite patrol]

computer bugs real?

[rich grove]

yeah literally

[finite patrol]

https://discord.gg/fCCp5U3R

QJ6H4

@feral umbra we summon thee

[agile void]

"What smash bros char would this deadlock character play"

[warped ridge]

Okay but what about Wolf from SSBU

[agile void]

drifter?

Lash plays falcon

[warped ridge]

I have considered playing drifter yes

[autumn field]

lash totally plays like, metaknight or something

hes really really fucking annoying

[warped ridge]

Yes he is lol

[autumn field]

i played against a metaknight main once

holy fuck you.

[merry verge]

lash plays sonic and spams the You're Too Slow Taunt

[warped ridge]

I play Wolf so I can't claim I'm that much better

But I also go for the self destruct spikes for the aura farm

[feral umbra]

Lash is fun, being Lash-ed is not fun

althought there are a lot of characters than can just nope out of him now

and people figured out stamina mastery is a soft counter by just standing above the dive

or jumping, rather

[astral lava]

lash ult is sp easy to avoid now. counterspell erases him

[rich grove]

yeahhhhhhhhhhh

it's just such a reliable option on reaction

[stable forum]

buying Duration Extender on Lash to evade Counterspell

[rich grove]

playing around counterspell and getting knockdowned instead

🗿

[agile void]

debuff remover

[magic summit]

As Pocket if there is a Lash I largely just ignore him past a certain point

Counterspell plus Satchel your whole kit is useless fucking muscleman

[magic summit]

If the Lash can rub two braincells together he can adjust for a double jump since ground pound drags people to earth

[rich grove]

look we're all in pooplo

i barely have a cell

[feral umbra]

Sometimes it works sometimes you get ping-ed/hit-reg-ed

That’s what try to do but it feels real kludgy now

[rich grove]

LET'S GO JUSTIIIIIIIIN

[rich grove]

lol

[finite patrol]

infernus no longer going to dump a full mag into my head through veils?

[rich grove]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1oqm935/when_the/

[scenic wedge]

Can you actually carry Seven when he's ulting

[rich grove]

hehe

hehehehehhehhhehh

hehehhehehhehehehhhhehhehhh

[feral umbra]

You can but he takes a damage nerf to the ult, anyone Ivy carries does like 50% less or something

It’s in the tooltip

[edgy fog]

Billiam Deadlock doesn't want to hurt random people by accident.

[iron oxide]

can we get a chart of every characters's degree of adherence to firearm safety

this is important data, it might finally get me out of initiate

[feral umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-crouching-crouch-infernus-tbagging-gif-12697938362154204732

Where does Infernus land on this chart

[iron oxide]

constant firing posture on the fingers, very poorly

[edgy fog]

Absolutely no fire safety

[agile void]

can he count when he technically can will the fire?

[iron oxide]

hmm

[agile void]

like there isnt even a confirmation that emotional outburst might make him misfire

[iron oxide]

unclear whether the finger-gun is a necessary stage of the bullet conjuration

[agile void]

he is the archetypical bartender that went to do some shit and repents on it so he is just chill unless you want to start some shit in his workplace, then he becomes the bouncer

wraith counts when technically she doesnt even hold the gun?

[edgy fog]

What about paige?

[agile void]

what about sinclair?

[edgy fog]

Could be supreme gun safety but chooses not to

[stable forum]

half the guns in deadlock don't have triggers

abrams does not the firearm safety

[quiet sapphire]

h*ly h*ll

[agile void]

real