idk most squishy/average health targets get chunked at your t3 power spike timing
#Deadlock
rich grove
+165 flat damage on power slash amped by however much on spirit snatch then I'll Fuckin Do It Again typically = dead
and if not dead then sufficiently wounded that they will piss pants and run
you can if you so wish build mystic reverb and spirit burn etc for pure nukage on your 1
autumn field
Yeah probably need to retry Yamato
rich grove
the character's numbers are sufficiently bonkers that you lowkey can just freestyle a bunch when you understand her basic fundies
and you'll be rewarded for it
you just also need to have the mixture of gamesense and confidence to take and win 1s
autumn field
I need to make a spirit hybrid Vyper build
I’m not great at her but I’m improving and Im going to be so fucking nasty to play against in the future
warped ridge
bonkers? did they do global nerfs or something? back when I played she was just hyper carry role but got demolished early game to most champs
autumn field
Mainly for her 2, because her 2 is kinda like really fucking good once maxed
rich grove
she rewards plays that would be so fuckin dumb on nontanky characters while having a really good sense of flow and general agility that the fatties don't
which is why I play her as the bruiser in my stack as opposed to abrams/shiv
warped ridge
that's interesting that they let her be a bruiser
I can see it though given her kit
rich grove
I just like dippin divin duckin and dpowerslashing more
autumn field
I’d use her if I could figure out her flow, since right now I can only brawl properly early game and not so much late
warped ridge
I love the powerslash, real judgement cut energy ngl
rich grove
part of it is that she can play the stupid melee rps really well with 2 and lifestrike/spirit snatch are both fucking broken on her
yes please give me +200 hp and 50% movement slow on light melee
yes please amp my damage and take their spirit away and their spirit resist away on a punch
rich grove
the only real achilles item is just silence wave but you buy debuff remover almost every game so you can deal
and they can't silence your fists
rich grove
or torment pulse
debuff remover doesnt grant debuff resist it grants +fun
the less debuffed you are the more fun you can have
therefore debuff remover should be called fun biggener
agile void
https://www.youtube.com/@FredTheFinch
fred the finch is the most well known yamato one trick
@warped ridge pinging you two in case you want to see how she is played these days
short quiver
Pocket really dodged a bullet there( the metaphorical one not the real one)
warped ridge
Pocket continues to drop the ball
I want them to get revenge by killing their father
Only way I will like them
somber creek
I want them to get revenge by killing their father
I mean thats why theyre doing the ritual
lavish grove
Yah that is one thing I’m curious about
Will any of the stories be like, after the ritual?
Because presumably that involves a few characters dying
Unless the patrons are able to revive them afterwards
warped ridge
I mean thats why theyre doing the ritual
Nepo baby better deliver
lavish grove
But everyone talks like the losing side is going to die so like, idk
lavish grove
Nepo baby better deliver
I feel like “being assassinated by your father” makes Pocket the opposite of a nepo baby tbh
somber creek
The weird thing is that unlike most mobas
The Ritual is a one and done deal
Implied by everyone
warped ridge
Look you gotta forgive me (no you dont) but Ima be a hater cause should have been me
quiet sapphire
Well pocket's pretty explicitly stated that they're not going to kill their father
just stop him
lavish grove
Hmmm, y’all think Mr Fairfax killed his dad to inherit the company?
Also yah I’m genuinely curious what they’re gonna do if they ever decide to show the story past the ritual
twilit roost
It's every 50/100 years i think? so basically a grail war
lavish grove
Kinda is lol
twilit roost
First one was the maelstrom when supernatural stuff became common place and this is the second ritual I think?
agile void
I mean
warped ridge
Well pocket's pretty explicitly stated that they're *not* going to kill their fa...
Nah in their shoes I'm folding everybody back savage, him, his wife, his best friends.
Ima make Dante and Vergil from DMC look like a Disney story in comparison
agile void
the DOTA is supposed to be a one time deal
and due to time shenanigans that the 2 sides do
its not
lavish grove
Also, ngl it’s kinda weird that pocket and McGinnis don’t have any interactions together
agile void
main reason arc warden tries to stop it
somber creek
The voice lines aren't finished
lavish grove
True yah
It’s just that a bunch were added in these updates
And I kinda expected pocket and McGinnis to be one of them
Also, it is kinda funny how sorta, casually evil McGinnis is lol
She’s the chief weapon’s engineer for magical Lockheed Martin and is very clear, she doesn’t have a single goddamn moral issue with it
If you pay her she’d invent a soul powered nuclear bomb without a second though
twilit roost
Call that a spirit bomb
lavish grove
It’s also kinda funny how the only character who doesn’t seem to like her so far is Seven, not because of all the weapons she’s made but because she’s a wagey
quiet sapphire
wasted potential
she can make anything and all she makes are soulshredder 3000's for eldritch tactical solutions
lavish grove
It’d be way better if she made the soulshredder 3000 for personal use
tardy sundial
It’d be way better if she made the soulshredder 3000 for personal use
That's called Ricoshot
twilit roost
Got a voice lines yesterday when patron calls her out, a mastercraftswomen but no vision
quiet sapphire
carry a soulshredder 3000 for home defence
just like the founding fathers intended
tardy sundial
I've had a pocket line where he asks 'why the hell she works for fairfax'
lavish grove
Like a kill line?
tardy sundial
Idk, middle of the fight tho
lavish grove
Ah ok
agile void
It’s also kinda funny how the only character who doesn’t seem to like her so far...
kinda Ivy either
agile void
anyone wanna do a few matches?
I have a bit of free time
yesterdays deadlock night shift pickrate
seriously Im surprised people are scared of playing doorman
merry verge
Cowards appreciating consistency and things they've done before
tardy sundial
lot of paradox this time
agile void
also surprised vindicta was just straight up not picked
warped ridge
Well the people who like the feet are playing uhhh
looks at this month's game releases
Silksong
merry verge
Didn't the model update change dat
warm sonnet
I have embraced my inner rat by playing Vyper
I take the shrine
I slide through the guardians
I get away with it
Dead Billy
edgy fog
I kinda want more monstrous ivy back ;-;
I love the idea of a gargoyle batwoman going around being a vigilante
lavish grove
Kinda interesting how the late game M1 characters kinda fall off a cliff at this high a rank
Like the only one who got picked at all was Haze and even then she wasn’t picked super often
Infernus and Vyper are just untouched
merry verge
Probably all the coordinated CC an all
An actually focused team can deny a carry farm instead of watching their Yamato go 2/15
lavish grove
Yah true lol
merry verge
Also might be some Gun Ivy in dere
lavish grove
Doesn’t matter if Vyper has solo farmed all game and can now 1v6
People will chain knockdown on her
agile void
Kinda interesting how the late game M1 characters kinda fall off a cliff at this...
kelvin also has gone m1 / gun these days
lavish grove
Oh neat
agile void
the scaling of his gun is pretty good and even then he can still heal decently
twilit roost
It also was a m1 meta not too long ago wasnt it? now its mostly spirit
magic summit
Yeah probably need to retry Yamato
Thresh has good advice here but I would also note that you have a pretty explicit role in a given tea
Team fight. And that is blow up their backline
Notably your crimson slash slows fire rate by a lot. Your leveled up grapple can follow people through dashes or high in the air. Your slash gives bullet resist while charging it
You should play her to make Vindicta/Haze/Infernus ect uninstall the game
agile void
again, fred the finch is the biggest yamato one trick
there is more but if you want someone that streams and is known, he is the one
autumn field
Luckily Fred doesn’t talk much
Just replying to someone with like, “this item is dogshit on yamato”
ivory reef
I am really enjoying Yamato and lash
I like speedy jumpy creatures
I wanna get good at mina but she's tough
ivory reef
I have!
But my friends are all support creatures
And I'm not sure I want to mix a gun character into my list
agile void
I mean ivy can go gun
ivory reef
Like, I wanna position myself for a consistent role
agile void
there is the wander gun build
agile void
agile void
I think I wanna stick to spirit gankers
....maybe stomp dynamo?
Honestly Im not a good example, my games have been like very cursed lately
half of them having someone disconnect so the game doesnt count and everyone leaves
agile void
or me somehow doing more damage than a warden
autumn field
I’m a Vyper main
autumn field
I’ve got like, her perfectly planned out for my preferences
ivory reef
She's also hot so that's nice
autumn field
Yeah Mina is hot
ivory reef
@native nexus is enjoying vyper in my squad
ivory reef
Any advice for a newbie?
autumn field
Vyper can be replaced with Haze though
ivory reef
Perfect
agile void
ALSO also
ivory reef
That means your advice will be useful
autumn field
But the best thing to learn is using mantle for slides
autumn field
And learning to manage stamina and when to burn it, personally
Your ideal build is pretty squishy (lots of GUN, maybe some spirit if you like your dagger (fun as fuck) or your 2 (baby yamato 1))
Since you also play close it’s a pretty big challenge
autumn field
For Victor I recommend watching Lightbringer
agile void
autumn field
I never watched his vods but like, I talked to the dude
agile void
he is like that, sometimes
autumn field
He’s chill so far
But yeah Vyper gets like, 450 DPS in late game, functionally cannot run out of ammo EVER if played right
twilit roost
Like 6 person team play with team voice
Think thats deadlock nightshift which is community tourneys
ivory reef
Excellent
autumn field
Haze is like Vyper if Vyper was good right now, actually
agile void
autumn field
But that’s just balance being balance, they’re fundamentally different with similarish kits
agile void
this is the vod
twilit roost
For spirit bruiser have you tried Billy? Lots of mixing in quick melees with spirit snatch and for heals
agile void
technically the best billy builds are more gun oriented
autumn field
Billy is one of those dudes who seem to be a 50/50
agile void
and you have your 1 as your reload
autumn field
Sometimes I just delete them 24/7, sometimes they’re a monster
agile void
twilit roost
Ill also suggest drifter if you want more macro oriented gameplay (stealing enemy jungle and winning against any 1v1s there)
autumn field
I fucking love Vyper
My only wish is that she gets buffed in some really silly way like making her spirit scaling stamina
finite patrol
my vyper advice: you are a hit and run character don't get stuck in and learn when to give up. you gotta stay slippery.
buy a barrier early. reactive or spirit are the best for most lanes.
buy veilwalker it does everything for you in terms of sustain and roaming.
this is THE split shot character it is a little bit of a crutch but being able to focus on movement and hold down m1 while looking in an enemy's general direction is very nice
if they have a lot of slows BUY DEBUFF REMOVER IT IS THE 3RD BEST ITEM IN THE GAME
finite patrol
extra spirit and monster rounds
agile void
...why extra spirit?
autumn field
Monster rounds is goated
agile void
Monster rounds is goated
yeah That i wont dispute
finite patrol
I do sincerely believe monster rounds is the best item for it's soul cost
agile void
the one That makes me raise an eyebrow was extra
there is also resto shot
which arguably makes extra regen irrelevant
autumn field
Monster is like a must pick on EVERY early build I use
finite patrol
I think counterspell, resto shot, veilwalker, silence wave, knockdown are all contenders for some of the best items along with the ones I mentioned
some of these are situational but when they're good they're amazing
autumn field
Resto is the 800 right?
finite patrol
yes
autumn field
I use Resto a lot, I need to get knockdown or the like when I see a vindicta
finite patrol
I think kd is must buy against Vin, haze, gt if they are ahead and always good against lash and seven
autumn field
imo it’s amazing when you’re not good enough to rely on just minion + passive healing
warped ridge
I wonder who I should pickup fourth, probably Billy but I'm also considering Mina as like a Darius pick
somber creek
I've been having a lot of fun as Mina
rich grove
I think I wanna stick to spirit gankers
mina is built spirit but still has some elements of an m1 if you want to get consistent value, since you need to proc her 3 to really start snowballing with her ult. that said she does have 2 and with recent cd changes she is really really slippery to get a hold of. i think for pure spirit + mobility though it's really hard to look past pocket
holliday would also fall under this with jump pads and you roam and gank a ton as holi early
but Pocket is almost literally just Puck and with Maj Leap being the meta pick on them, you're even more mobile than usual
you really can just spawn out of nowhere, dump affliction onto the teamfight and then shatter everyone's ankles when they try to chase you
finite patrol
pucket
rich grove
pucket
warped ridge
I've been having a lot of fun as Mina
How much of a lane bully is she? I'd like a char that just makes people want to abandon the lane for their entire life
agile void
How much of a lane bully is she? I'd like a char that just makes people want to ...
thething is, you can make people explode
and people can explode you
somber creek
How much of a lane bully is she? I'd like a char that just makes people want to ...
Depends entirely how good your aim is
agile void
you have 200 less health than everyone else
rich grove
yeah just keep playing yams if you want to put people in a locker in lane
agile void
and the 200 less health is really fucking noticeable
rich grove
mina can just explode
agile void
she is one of the few that actually wants extra health because she is just that fucking squishy
and not because it builds into fortitude
agile void
yes
but my frame of reference right now is the one match where I outdps a warden somehow, and the other was a dynamo(me) and kelvin lane vs victor/talon lane
merry verge
Gray Talon is obnoxious at every stage /nod
rich grove
it's just hard to impossible for most characters to interact with him when he presses 2
merry verge
( sometimes the bird is funny )
rich grove
and he do be doing a lot of poke
twilit roost
His intercontinental bird missle
merry verge
Truly every part of his kit is groan
The hitbox on charged shot is uhm
I'll say whimsical i guess
'remember getting shot around corners by TF2 Snipers? what if he was firing barrel-sized bullets'
warped ridge
Yeah, that sounds familiar from a year ago 
I'll admit I shouldn't talk too much
Cause my 3rd pick is Sevens
Because of course it is
twilit roost
Seven is just eternally good, is decent to good at everything
warped ridge
Yeah but I feel slimey playing him
twilit roost
I've been having fun with stomp dynamo which is just silly, stomp is literally the size of a lane at base
merry verge
/pushes Power Surge off a bridge
agile void
Part of wants to stop using dynamo because there is a point where I feel I cant do shit unless I go with a carry
somber creek
The main way 7 sucks is that he has no escapes
autumn field
mina is built spirit but still has some elements of an m1 if you want to get con...
lash is also pure spirit rn iirc
rich grove
well I read her post and she said lash
autumn field
most builds i see are like, 90% purple, 10% green
oh did she?
its been a while
but yes pocket is fun, but i dont play them
rich grove
put a coin in the jar
autumn field
im a vyper shill, give me MORE scaling deadlock
rich grove
the "his pronouns are they/them" toll
finite patrol
pucket
rich grove
the cloak is canonically sentient
agile void
part of the arguments used to say that Pocket is they/them because its 2 different people
finite patrol
pocket is non binary because they are defined as such in their lore
m&k and sinclair however are 2 different people
agile void
yeah I know, Im just pointing out that was one of the stupid arguments used to say pocket is not a they/them, that the briefcase and coat are 2 different entities
twilit roost
do you consider this alive?
Not the old ye ye ass hair cut model
agile void
Not the old ye ye ass hair cut model
the current one is even MORE ye ye ass haircut, lets be honest
autumn field
wdym by top-down balancing
somber creek
Balance around pro play
autumn field
ah.
autumn field
i swear holliday was too strong before
agile void
also isnt that how Dota does balancing too?
warped ridge
Is there a balancing pattern you like more?
primal sphinx
It's how pretty much all games do it, you kind of have to balance around the highest-skilled players if you don't want to kill the game
It's pretty poisonous to the community to have the game get less playable as you invest more time and effort
It is possible to make changes that impact different skill levels different amounts, but it's much more of an art than a science
(The mana cost nerf on Glimmer Cape is a good example from Dota - it made the item less viable on cores, which mostly hit the higher levels of play, without significantly changing its value in lower brackets)
autumn field
In theory a perfectly balanced game has dynamic balance where depending on your overall “rank” heroes get stronger and weaker
But at the same time, what the fuck
But personally the best game has most of them balanced around high level (but not pro/top X% type stuff), with some balanced to be a little more favored in lower ranks, even if not so great higher up
Because realistically you can’t perfectly balance a whole game and you shouldn’t cater to 1%, etc
ivory reef
but Pocket is almost literally just Puck and with Maj Leap being the meta pick o...
Oooh
magic summit
For Winged I do think Lash would be a good go to for you
Largely builds items for brawling/ganking until you can afford Boundless Spirit/Mystic Reverb and just solo kill a whole team yourself
I might recommend watching Deathy's recent movement video if you are going to play Lash though because he relies pretty heavily on wall jumping mechanics to not die instantly
granite heath
For Winged I do think Lash would be a good go to for you
Well I've got news about her current main.
ivory reef
For Winged I do think Lash would be a good go to for you
I lash so hard
I'm the best
Just like lash
finite patrol
the god of combat herself
agile void
Anyone wants to try a few matches?
autumn field
btw idk if anyone here plays vyper, but, of all my games i have a 75% WR on her so far (not that many games tbf)
so im working on building her
i need to test her performance as hybrid spirit gun
but once i figure it out, does anyone want me to work a build out
im still bad, but that's everyone who isnt vyper or victor
feral umbra
I picked up Mina this week and have had similar success
Spirit Burn and her ult melts objectives
But now people know that so you also need ethereal shift to survive properly
feral umbra
i need to test her performance as hybrid spirit gun
I’ve had better luck doing hybrid tank, getting unstoppable and such items to draw as much aggro from CC’s as possible and still have some heat to hang in a fight
I’d also be interested in seeing that hybrid build and route and what you use, cause Spirit should be good in theory I’ve just never had the success
autumn field
i know hybrid gun tank works but i want to see damage
the thing is, a well done vyper should have like 280 DPS and the rest should be spirit
at least, for me
my build is a 450 DPS one at about 35k souls iirc
very squishy though, but very good at objectives and excels in assassinations
relies on someone else to take aggro, like an abrams
i want to see how spirit works to improve assassination capability, since she deals like 250~ with her 2 before spirit scaling like crazy
(vs 25% HP)
incredibly good finisher, more reliable than lash's 260, but no AoE
autumn field
fuck. this build is STUPID.
worst part is this is a 40k build
Fuck. Spirit sucks on Vyper
Her max potential with like, a 165 spirit build deals only 700 damage vs 25% or less HP
And she loses so much DPS (430~, without glass cannon) relative to it 😭
autumn field
builds are fucking annoying to make tbh
i annotate for myself
so yeah i took some top builds and tossed things together, i need to figure out if i want to remove siphon
might take out glass cannon, but it is 80% more weapon dmg
think compress CD isn't worth it here
feral umbra
Spirit Vyper made more sense when her 3 had insane scaling on it, you’d rush it to 3 in lane and just nuke people
Now, post-nerf, not so much
autumn field
Spirit Vyper made more sense when her 3 had insane scaling on it, you’d rush it ...
Wait she had 3 scaling?
feral umbra
2 I meant 2, my bad
The uh poison that deals damage with more based on missing health
autumn field
Yeah
agile void
runic cedar
<@&1277035919182008330> i forgot we had this ping, anyone down for a "quick" match?
maiden ledge
im not home but we have a deadlock ping???
warped ridge
Yeh
runic cedar
indeed we do (i just remebered)
runic cedar
or if you aren't in game yet (doubtful)
im here, we can do one now
quiet sapphire
coming now
runic cedar
6CV81
quiet sapphire
quiet sapphire
#bot-stuff and do ?rank Deadlock
agile void
Im trying out mo
honestly
I dont even know what I was doing, but I came out of lane with 6/0/1
the match ended up in a loss though
is quick silver reload THAT core in mo?
like how it is on lash?
warped ridge
No match is a loss if you assume you will not win the match and instead focus on just winning the lane
finite patrol
agile void
I get the logic but also considering rank and how Is the matchmaking, I was probably against initiates
also, Billy/abrans
I tried again with a Yamato lash and I managed to stop the lash from ulting and killing him
still loss but that is because IRL stuff happened and my team ran out of pauses
warped ridge
So then yeah only casual
No need to worry about winning or losing
If valve wanted dedicated rank-isms they would show rank
Unless they do
Then that would be really funny
autumn field
Yeah every match is “ranked” but they don’t display it intentionally
agile void
In these matches specifically I didnt worry about that, if anything I was surprised that as mo I could technically just
walk to a person
1
autumn field
The rank’s main goal is to show personal improvement over anything else
warped ridge
Well youre mo and krill
agile void
walk back
warped ridge
You can krill them
warped ridge
Yeah you're mo and krill
agile void
but still, I didnt expected to practically demolish lane twice
warped ridge
So even in a 1 for 1 trade you still win
Cause you're mo and krill
So 1 for 1 just means the other survivez
autumn field
:|
agile void
did they get rid of Krills hitbox?
I remember a time where apparently you could technically double headshot mo krill
as Vindicta
warped ridge
:|
The best thing about Mobas in early life span are the goofy reasonings and bugs
Like in LoL one of Warwick's early bugs is if you ult someone the same frame they back you follow them to fountain
agile void
Like in LoL one of Warwick's early bugs is if you ult someone the same frame the...
Yamato grapple
primal sphinx
Fountain Hook
warped ridge
Yeh which is funny cause you'll fly through the air when they get on the zip IIRC
agile void
Fountain Hook
that reminds me they got rid of doorman door on fountain
which I understand as you could trap someone behind a invisible wall
twilit roost
they should put it back, it only gets people stuck if it's behind the gargoyle
agile void
but now you cant just straight up put door on fountain
twilit roost
carting somone is just good clean fun if they can still walkout
agile void
I hope they allow it later
rich grove
bruh
agile void
wait no spirit how the fuck?
agile void
did you just bully people with beam?
autumn field
how tf you get that much dps, hp, and spirit power?
agile void
how tf you get that much dps, hp, and spirit power?
he stole all the sinners
autumn field
ah right i cant read stats that well yet
finite patrol
no juggernaut???
agile void
no juggernaut???
doesnt look like he needed it
also 8 t4 items
6400x8
51200
3 t3
that would be.... 9600
so 60800
enduring.. 1600
62200
finite patrol
no juggernaut?????
agile void
the other 6k probably came after he stormed the base finally
finite patrol
yeah I don't think they needed it
rich grove
...
agile void
she is worse now
autumn field
she's just really really weird to play around
agile void
to the point she became from top 5 to NU
autumn field
sometimes she hits perfect shots 24/7
sometimes she never hits
and im playing vyper 😭
i have high spread
agile void
sometimes she never hits
isnt that just regular sniper experience?
rich grove
.....Ooooh, did she hit you as you were in the zipline?
no look at the nox nostra
from the mina
who is on my team
agile void
wait wtf
autumn field
how tf?
agile void
I though you were surprised how you got nuked by vind in 2 shots
rich grove
no that was pretty apparent
she knocked me off zip and then sniped me in the butt after taking a good long look
that one I can understand quite well
but how my own mina's ult damaged me is uhhh interesting
agile void
I mean I have gotten sometimes kill assist for my teammates dying
I dont know if those actually count or not because I never buy trophy collector
warped ridge
ah right i cant read stats that well yet
I will be clear even with like, nearly a decade of of on and off moba playing, I still barely can read stats
The only game I would argue I can read stats to a decent level is like, smite
but that's because for me, smite stats have easy feely recognition
where like league, or even more so dota, there's like
ITEM DIRK SHUTTERCREAM
-TELEPORT 67 UNITS AHEAD AND LEAVE A TRAIL OF OOZE, GAINING 74 SHIELD RESIST THAT DECREASES OVER 5 MOONSTEPS
and I'm just like
"What the fuck is a moonstep"
(this is obviously an overexagerration but this is what it feels like, even though I did reach gold in league)
finite patrol
apparently doorman can have like, 40 sec cd on his ult?
yup!
merry verge
Sometimes it's fun to pick a person to ult every team fight
See how tilted you can get the Seven
Especially nice now that tanks / Counterspell can't just instantly quit
warped ridge
https://preview.redd.it/mo-memes-mo-problems-v0-9kdu4ggkgrsd1.jpg?width=320&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0822dd0725b2c25c229b0ad81aa680f723d158db
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twilit roost
fun new glitch
notice anything missing?
oh thank god finally kicked to lobby that took a while
ivory reef
finite patrol
https://tenor.com/view/jacob-lash-lash-deadlock-lesbian-lash-deadlock-gif-956143...
ok vyper
agile void
so that was a match
basically before laning phase haze died 5 times, she quitted, the mina and the doorman proceeded to shit talk us because of her
then they proceeded to lose walker, walker, walker
those 2 seemed to be the good players in their team
and this has been the first time I have been playing kelvin in.....
3 months or so
finite patrol
just shoot buildings
agile void
I was
once we managed to storm the base I think I was the only one shooting shrines then the patron phase 1
we went back to get some stuff, I defended blue alongside paige. then another fight broke through close to base
feral umbra
Every time I see these stories I check to make sure I’m not in them but I think I’ve played with that Haze before and lmao
agile void
and while the rest of the team spent their time shooting each other
I just...wiped patron
feral umbra
They usually play McGinnis when I see them and are the first to talk shit
agile void
espera eres latino tambien?
agile void
They usually play McGinnis when I see them and are the first to talk shit
I could have probably saved her a few times, and I actually tried using dome to keep the guardian safe or basically make it a health reset
but I swear one moment she was doing boxes
bridge buffs spawn
she moves towards them
"Oh she will get it nice"
dead because of mina
wtf
feral umbra
Mina is kinda spooky if you get ulted
agile void
I dont even know if I could have helped haze more or she just had a really shitty lane
feral umbra
The silence catches people off guard because you can’t really stop it, debuff remover doesn’t purge ult debuffs like hers
20k obj is insane though that’s basically everything you can knock over
agile void
The silence catches people off guard because you can’t really stop it, debuff re...
I saw her get knocked down 3 times
I dont know who had knockdown
but someone did and she didnt attempted to counter it while she was in ult
agile void
20k obj is insane though that’s basically everything you can knock over
Pretty sure it was shrines, my walker and guardian patron phase 1 and half of 2 I did
I dont remember if I did more but 1 walker was down before the end of laning phase, in the victor/talon lane
also
initiate
here people chase kills rather than doing objectives so I won thanks to 2 carries+more macro
feral umbra
Yeah if you’re low enough in the MMR you can basically be either the hyper fed distraction or the W+M1 objective blaster and that’s really all you need to drag a team over the finish line
I did it as Abrams when there were four lanes, that was a hoot
somber creek
The big problem with Mina's ult is the jump up on it tbh
agile void
You kind have to do it on low ceiling or waste a tp to not go that far up
autumn field
How tf did that haze end up with 10k?
agile void
How tf did that haze end up with 10k?
Remember that there is a mechanic that makes the lowest 2 on a team get passive income
autumn field
Usually I’m only behind by up to like, 3k on haze at most
agile void
by the end she disconected we were like 7k
autumn field
I usually jungle and shred troopers then 2 off into the darkness to repeat
agile void
she tried that and she just died by herself
feral umbra
since you recognize the name of the haze
Not me, I don’t think they are either if they’re the same person, they had a very Midwest USA accent on voice comms
agile void
unless the game somehow threw me into a USA game, must be someone else with the same name then
autumn field
If you ever see me I’m just well, Ivy
feral umbra
If it’s weird time slots you can get out wherever to make a match
Or if you duo from multiple regions, when I duo with my friend in Scotland we’re basically permanently on the Russian and Eastern Europe games
runic cedar
i had a really weird/interesting interaction where i got paradox and doorman ulted at the same time so i couldnt escape the baroness but i was in the overworld, neat stuff
warm sonnet
Sent to the outdoor café
cursive flicker
finite patrol
cursed
scenic wedge
Put TF2 Heavy in Deadlock
agile void
pretty sure he is there already
also, if anyone wonders where you can get mods, check game banana
for now Yoshi basically told us that mods are Ok so long they dont really provide "ingame" advantages and even then Im pretty sure they are looking at them to see what could be copied from mods or what people like
even people like deathy mention to download the Yamato mod because it was made using as reference one of the arts yoshi shared about her redesign
now she actually looks like she belongs here
agile void
Anyone wants to do a few matches in a hour or so? After eating Im onboard playing some matches
feral umbra
its way past my bedtime, or I'd be down
good luck, the queues are garbo this morning
primal wolf
quiet sapphire
now she actually looks like she belongs here
honestly the hair for the design is 3000 iq
gets around the sheer prodigiousness of her base model's forehead
agile void
agile void
<@&1277035919182008330> anyone in NA/SA that wants to do some matches in a few minutes?
runic cedar
Ill show up
finite patrol
i can play 1 game
agile void
going to vc
runic cedar
YRRMG
primal wolf
agile void
I think parry is delayed like half a second
finite patrol
get yo bigass ears back in the frame god damn
finite patrol
spirit power and fire rate
and a little flat hp or barriers
mystic shot really good
finite patrol
because batform is an incredibly powerful movement / escape tool
twilit roost
Make sure to nab spirit burn on her to explode objectives with her ult as a late game item
somber creek
She is a hybrid in that she wants to proc on hits but her actual gun damage is not very good
finite patrol
it's downright terrible
you do like flat damage procs though so headshot booster / headhunter is a good pickup
autumn field
agile void
I remember people talking about her and coming up with this
she needs a lot of items to make it "work"
but even then she doesnt really get much use of all the atributes in all the items she buys
feral umbra
I mean you really just need tank buster and spirit burn
Everything else is to help you survive until you get those two items
And I guess boundless eventually
But those two are the big ones until they need her ult
autumn field
spot the difference
rich grove
sinclair because he has a hat
warped ridge
shit I was gonna say Ivy because they stole her eyes
autumn field
RED SPY IN THE BASE
shy quiver
A RED SPY IN THE BASE!?
runic cedar
A RED SPY IN THE BASE!!!
finite patrol
your mother
autumn field
i also fucking love the echo skin for paradox
autumn field
btw how do you play / build paradox?
she looks like a spirit + some gun type of gal, and best in teamplay?
warm sonnet
Yeah
autumn field
like that ult definitely trolls if used right, but it's pretty hard to use right i think?
warm sonnet
Her kit punishes poor positioning in general
autumn field
might be able to combo something like, yoinking them into a singularity or so on
warm sonnet
Or wallswaps
runic cedar
she also does great work as a disruptor
also a pick character to chase down low health characters
warm sonnet
In a 1 v 1 you can dance around the wall
autumn field
i believe you have to go from like, 400 -> 300 DPS to run spirit decently well
and even then, it's a discount yamato 1 and a worse haze dagger
autumn field
In a 1 v 1 you can dance around the wall
hmmm i gotta learn her
idk i love the echo skin tbh
i love seeing a miyabi yamato chase me down, though it's a shame i have no clue how to play her or against her
they seem to just appear outta nowhere, grapple punch 3 80% slow 1 nuke tankbuster stun heavy melee or some shit
i once played against an abrams that just shredded me like crazy
feral umbra
Paradox’s loop is stack up debuff with grenade, hit carbine stun, yoink through the wall with ult, pray they’re dead
Or yoink into other ultra and teammates
autumn field
Paradox’s loop is stack up debuff with grenade, hit carbine stun, yoink through ...
wait, if they get yoinked into the wall, do they like, take the dmg?
what if you do into it, do you take the bullet dmg?
feral umbra
Her wall does %max hp dmg to people passing through it and the yoink itself does more damage the farther the distance they travel
So if you have like express shot, spirit burn, mystic shot, boundless that’s a ton of damage constantly
autumn field
feral umbra
And that % damage gets amped
autumn field
i see
feral umbra
Oh I think they changed it, 80% lifesteal explains a lot
autumn field
are there any forced movement items?
autumn field
shame.
warped ridge
@unkempt kernel would also be worth posting here
unkempt kernel
warped ridge
I tried playing with friends
one is an alchemist 3, the other never played before
I'm a ritualist 6
WHY Deadlock
WHY U DO DIS
I haven't played in a year!
like I get it if I played in the last 6 months or something but fuck
agile void
like I get it if I played in the last 6 months or something but fuck
There should have been mmr decay
were you archon?
warped ridge
Idk, I never checked my rank a year ago, this website has these ranks so maybe given 3 of them were archon
like I know what emissary and archon are
and then that top 200 rank immortal or w/e
I don't see oracle or phantom so maybe they were old ranks
agile void
I don't see oracle or phantom so maybe they were old ranks
oracle and phantom are shy of ascendant, which is part of the big 3 before eternus
granite heath
Consulting the chart, Ritualist is approximately Ancient, as opposed to Alchemist, which is Crusader
Big shoutout to Archon not being the same level as Archon
I'm glad Valve has doubled down on the stupid names for ranks
warped ridge
what the fuck do these mean 😭
valve is like "you know how new words are created every generation"
"what if we did that, but 3 generations in the future"
granite heath
Excited to see what rank Archon means in their next game after Deadlock
agile void
Consulting the chart, Ritualist is approximately Ancient, as opposed to Alchemis...
in dota is 8, deadlock has 11
....
what are the ranks in lol
10
....
marvel rivals? ok 9
warped ridge
tbf easier to do by percentage points
agile void
there is also statlocker
this would probably be the representation? more or less out of word of mouth of how people feel when they jump between levels
ascendant and eternus are lumped together because they are like the top 1%
agile void
anyone want to try some matches in like.... half an hour/one hour?
tardy sundial
winged terrace
anyone want to try some matches in like.... half an hour/one hour?
I would be down if we get more people
I think there is a pingable role
agile void
I would be down if we get more people
yeah give me asec
<@&1277035919182008330> anyone wants to do a few matches?
winged terrace
412Q9
rocky cobalt
I can be there in a sec also
winged terrace
i have bad aim, and mcginnis is real fun to me. What heroes are similar, or otherwise dont require particulary good aim skill?
warm sonnet
Splitto Bulleto 😌
winged terrace
Splitto Bulleto 😌
wdym?
autumn field
Reject aim fire 5 bullets per bullet
marsh fulcrum
yay
twilit roost
i have bad aim, and mcginnis is real fun to me. What heroes are similar, or othe...
Billy, smg you basically always shoot amd then reload with your 1 or a quick melee
Also Mo and krill
ivory reef
<@&1277035919182008330> need one more for fullstack
Oh derp I was asleep at the time
I'd love to six stack with you guys eventually
winged terrace
Oh derp I was asleep at the time
We’re open
winged terrace
everyone just hopped off, sorry
agile void
I can still do one more though
maiden ledge
mind if i join for one?
warped ridge
I'll join if you need a sixth
maiden ledge
i need a break from poking at hw
winged terrace
ok i can do one more ig
agile void
I'll join if you need a sixth
if winged comes it can be a 5th stack
finite patrol
I'll come in a couple-a
winged terrace
I'll come in a couple-a
i think we have one more spot
wintry arrow
I was also going to file in for 'I'll return if its a stack', but it seems to be covered
ivory reef
everyone just hopped off, sorry
Ah whoops nevermind
winged terrace
Ah whoops nevermind
different people hopped on
ivory reef
Wait
winged terrace
we are a go
maiden ledge
7HQ2T
autumn field
Bruh if yall are on in an hour ill join
magic summit
i have bad aim, and mcginnis is real fun to me. What heroes are similar, or othe...
You need at least some aim in lane to get denies and harass, but past lane some of the heroes that don't actually need to use their gun much or have difficult abilities to aim, I would say are like. Dynamo, Kelvin, Mo and Krill, Paige
winged terrace
You need at least some aim in lane to get denies and harass, but past lane some ...
dont have difficult abilities to aim or do?
magic summit
Don't
To a lesser degree I would say Lash, Calico, Doorman and Abrams
Though some of these heroes are difficult in ways that don't have anything to do with aim
finite patrol
i think next time we should split me and jaacker up since we play the most often too
make the lanes more equal
warped ridge
ye maybe swap into my lane to help with the MMR pulls
maiden ledge
do not fret everyone
with my second ingenious build that i copied--annoying viscous
i will surely climb the ranks this time
agile void
I have 900 games
Even if Im bad at the game, the experience alone puts me above most people
maiden ledge
i think that last match put me in the double digits for games!
agile void
if anything I didnt expected the gap to be so large
when I played with other people here they were ritualists or alchemist, right now most of our ranks was seekers along with 2 high level people
at that point I would need to smurf just so the game doesnt put us all in weird mixes
finite patrol
better not to smurf valve will ban you
also enemy team also had a wacky mix of skill levels.
ivory reef
please don't ever smurf or encourage smurfing on pilot net
the reason the game puts you into weird mixes when you play with your newbie friends is because you are a weird mix when you play with your newbie friend
the game is just trying to match that
finite patrol
yeag
warped ridge
overall the match seemed fine, only thing that really stuck out to me was drifter but even that was manageable, as long as it's not a stunlock hero like bebop it would probably be fine
warped ridge
yeh, it's why I started roaming for picks myself cause I saw him start doing that
finite patrol
drifter & Holliday got very fed and we lost some early objectives then we couldn't control map or take walkers and got locked out of the game.
agile void
me and paige were able to defend ourselves but at that point when we took our guardian the other lanes were down and they werr already starting to chip the walker for damage
beyond actually winning lane we couldnt really stop the snowball from there
autumn field
anyone here still
warped ridge
I'm still up for playing games but they'll be cursed
agile void
maiden ledge
Instead of saying:
"I'm not organic, why does the cube heal me?"
Try saying:
"We don't question the cube."
finite patrol
emailing this to all of my randoms
autumn field
emailing this to all of my randoms
Me, the cultist slaughterer vyper with 450 DPS about to delete it from the map in 2 seconds:
feral umbra
Mina, laughing with Ult and Spirit Burn
runic cedar
<@&1277035919182008330> if there are any people still around i just woke up
finite patrol
Me, the cultist slaughterer vyper with 450 DPS about to delete it from the map i...
only 20 deaths and 30 minutes later
autumn field
i love the dichitomy of doorman fanart
sometimes hes just a "haiii im a doorman", sometimes its "im the hottest twink ever"
maiden ledge
merry verge
People usually skip that part but it's crucial to understanding when to Cube
quiet sapphire
VISCOUS GUIDE
PROLOGUE: become a new-age bodhisattva
wintry arrow
Meanwhile, Drifter guides:
Look at all this free Earthly Attachment these chumps are leaving behind! Punch them and take it.
tidal elm
having played a lot of Warwick on League
Drifter is just that, but less fur
feral umbra
Drifter sucks, unless the enemy team has a Drifter, then he's way too strong be cause your team likes to just lose hit points like its their job
hell it might be
merry verge
Drifter is the exact midpoint of furriness between Warwick and Bloodseeker
feral umbra
Wish he’d scrun-go to someone else’s lane /shakesfist
wintry arrow
In other 'people who touch the melee key' news. Calico is uh, not the easiest character.
agile void
In other 'people who touch the melee key' news. Calico is uh, not the easiest ch...
Honestly regardless of what character you play unless you have a way to guarantee melees you need to bait parries yes or yes
agile void
scenic wedge
Tragic
agile void
tardy sundial
my pod has a bebop onetrick who loves the triple hook echo shard build for dragging randos into spawn
agile void
agile void
honestly if Billy was silent, it would fit great
unless they made the voicelines go through a tape recorder filter
then its peak
feral umbra
Is there a solution to melee that isn’t skinner-box training yourself to parry on react
There isn’t any melee armor and bullet resist doesn’t effect it at all
twilit roost
slowing bullets
autumn field
that too
feral umbra
But nothing passive really
Well nothing cheap I know juggernaut gives a little bit and so does crushing fists iirc
agile void
...........
what is this then?
Like dont get me wrong, I understand if you dont want to parry
but with rebuttal they can only get one heavy melee off safely, the next one they have to bait or trust you wont do it
beyond that literally get off their face or walljump/stay in the air, doesnt matter how hard the punches are if you can kite them
somber creek
Is there a solution to melee that isn’t skinner-box training yourself to parry o...
Youtube recommended me this
agile void
yeah there are pretty common tells to see if anyone punches
like for example in lane if bebop grabs you with hook but has no uppercut
they will always light melee you or heavy melee
predict that then fuck them over
feral umbra
I don’t really play enough to practice that timing so I’m bad at it and get baited a lot
If that’s the only real method that’s what I gotta do but I was hoping for something to help bandaid that shortfall while I learn to predict it better
somber creek
Audio cues mainly
agile void
mostly from heavy melees
which will be the most common melees unless you are ritualist or upper
astral lava
There's a parry dummy in the training area. You can practice as much as you want.
Also bullet armor reduces melee damage and theres multiple items that specifically reduce incoming melee damage.
feral umbra
which will be the most common melees unless you are ritualist or upper
I just got into Ritualistic actually
agile void
I just got into Ritualistic actually
Shivs and others will be doing light melees when they can get away with it, they will be up in your face and they will be spamming melees because those are technically nonreactable and it will be up to chance if you manage to parry them
feral umbra
Yeah but you best shivs by building shielding and enchanter emblem and such things
Cheap spirit resist
agile void
Yeah but you best shivs by building shielding and enchanter emblem and such thin...
Yeah, Im just saying, there is a reason why they made stuff like lifestrike have more cooldown off light melees
magic summit
There isn’t any melee armor and bullet resist doesn’t effect it at all
But bullet resist does affect it
Point Blank, Torment Pulse and Juggernaut also give specifically melee resist
feral umbra
If bullet resist does have an effective should be buying battle armor more than I am, I’ll make adjustments
And I guess Rebuttal if I get stuck in lane against like Billy or Calico, or one of the other bruisers
feral umbra
Am I misremembering or has bullet resist always effected melee damage taken? I could have sworn that wasn’t the case before
runic cedar
i just had a very infuriating game against a cheating beebop, they had scripted blocks and wallhacks (parried quick melees with no context)(hooked people across the map with no info on them) it was very frustrating
runic cedar
<@&1277035919182008330> early ping for early games
ivory reef
i just had a very infuriating game against a cheating beebop, they had scripted ...
Isn't the hook a projectile? That you need to lead?
Like. If they're hacking why not hack their hitscan weapon
runic cedar
think so but still hitting a person behind a veil from two blocks away isnt exactly common practice
ivory reef
Maybe they're just good
Maybe it's an ambiguous situation but ultimately spending energy finding reasons to call your enemies hackers isn't very useful
runic cedar
hope so but still, wasnt a fun match
ivory reef
I understand that, but big picture I'd love it if people didn't show up to pnet and then rage about randoms kicking their ass in competitive queues
It's just not good social energy nor personal headspace strategy
runic cedar
thats fair
ivory reef
Wizard weren't you the one who rage quit in the middle of our dune spice wars game?
runic cedar
a long time ago yes
dont remember why but guessing i wasnt having the best time then
ivory reef
I can assure you nobody was cheating then. I suspect this is just part of a broader pattern
Really common pattern with gamers to be clear
🫂
runic cedar
most likely, yeah
agile void
almost got rainbow
seriously I have heard people call geist easy mode but Mo kind of feels like you dont really have to think beyond ganking
runic cedar
Wait how do you have ranks? I cant seem to find it om my end, (admittedly i also cant find the game history screen so it might just be something on my end)
agile void
you need to go to settings
runic cedar
Ah thank you :D
runic cedar
<@&1277035919182008330> anyone around for some deadlock now?
agile void
<@&1277035919182008330> anyone around for some deadlock now?
I can play 2 if you are still up for it
runic cedar
I can play 2 if you are still up for it
that i am :D
agile void
going into vc
glass flicker
agile void
Honestly I dont even know if should be playing with bots at this point to practice
I have been on a downward spiral since june
finite patrol
I usually take a break from playing competitive games if I find I'm losing a lot more than I'm winning. coming back fresh and relearning things helps me find assumptions and play patterns I didn't notice were wrong.
where is this chart from?
agile void
statlocker
agile void
runic cedar
fun game, Abrams feels fun but i still need to get better at movement other than that great game
runic cedar
btw does anyone have tips to get better in the lane phase? i tend to struggle there and proceed to die between once to alot but i havent seen any change despite how cagey/agressive i play. is there any common pitfall i should avoid or is it just that dynamo tends to be """weaker""" in the lane phase?
feral umbra
Learn how to trade favorably is probably a good start; figure out just how much damage you can dish out without taking hits yourself , and then practice weaving in damage on opponents while farming
And securing your souls, always do that either with the gun or punching otherwise you’re just buffing your opponents soul gains
rich grove
you may also just not be buying defensive items enough in the lane depending on matchup
rich grove
and also yeah dynamo is unfortunately bulliable
runic cedar
yeah, for early lane on dynamo i tend to go for extra regen + enhanced speed as fast as possible so i can survive in lane without needing to run back to spawn as much
agile void
good players even say that as dynamo you will normally lose lane unless something is very wrong with your enemy lane
runic cedar
neat huh
ivory reef
deathy's thumbnail game is annoying me
the thumbnail:
the description:
current match rank distribution? really??
the link:
...
like. okay. I get it. yes there's a burst at initiate 1
but really? really?
like tbh those are probably just accounts that got into deadlock and never played
anyway I probably shouldn't be posting stuff on pnet to get mad at but I'm not sure why there's so much "deadlock mmr is uniquely bad as mobas go" stuff floating around in the deadlock community
I suspect it's just that dota and lol predate the "sbmm bad" modern grift thing
twilit roost
New influx of players + experienced ones returning to the game with the big update all being jumbled together is mainly it
ivory reef
yeah it's not hard to explain
they're clearly just an anomaly not attached to the actual playing playerbase who are the curve
twilit roost
But people do have experience pre and post update and noticed a difference in more lop sided games and thats a fair thing to complain about. Game is in development its worth mentioning
Unrelated but did a big streamer just popularize veilwalker bebop been seeing it a lot more. It's pretty funny, just a robot running at mach 5 tagging you and then gone
rich grove
like tbh those are probably just accounts that got into deadlock and never playe...
aren't those obscurus and presumably listed separately
ivory reef
aren't those obscurus and presumably listed separately
it's not clear to me how this site lists them
rich grove
there's a separate thing for no rank unless they just decided to pile everything into initiate 1
which would be dumb but sadly not out of the question
ivory reef
I don't see obscurus in this site's listings
my extremely boring occam's razor answer is that this is just a raw dump of a webapi and that all the obscurus accounts register as 0
like, deadlock doesn't even have multiple ranking systems so they can let people marinate in casual before deciding to 'commit' and play a bit before entering the 'real' curve
which is what most games do
this is just the total pile of players
that random bump at 0 is probably just inactive accounts
twilit roost
Yeah unfortunately the comp and casual playlists got combined because of the low player count before
warped ridge
anyway I probably shouldn't be posting stuff on pnet to get mad at but I'm not s...
I know for me my MMR is high but like, I can excuse my case for game dev = my mmr doesn't reset back to placement
Like game isn't released
So while I think it's odd my MMR isn't reset to placement ratings after a year, I get it
And in turn if I just go to bat for like 20 games it'll fix my mmr
rich grove
my extremely boring occam's razor answer is that this is just a raw dump of a we...
they don't have a null type nooooooooo
ivory reef
Maybe continuing to be lost to the annals of time
rich grove
my zod schemas... its everywhere........ my validation....
warped ridge
Also isn't some of the API tracking broke
Like no websites track my recent games anymore
rich grove
statlocker has all my games but I think literally the very last one I played yesterday
then again if it's spotty it wouldn't surprise me
warped ridge
I will check it out
Ah yeah it has 1
It's also missing some
It does look like it's calculating from recent games only though
astral lava
there is definitely some weird stuff with the rankings like how heavily it cares about playing one character
tardy sundial
and also yeah dynamo is unfortunately bulliable
as Dynamo, I like to queue with an early game hero like mcginnis and then run the farming dynamo build,
that way my teammate can cover the early lane, while i can focus on transitioning to a lategame teamfight build
agile void
that random bump at 0 is probably just inactive accounts
the bump is because of rank decay, I do remember seeing people in the reddit talking about how they are winning a lot but they are still stuck in their ranks
like, them being archon or phantom but they left the game a bunch of months, so they are stuck in alchemist or lower
and despite they keep winning they dont budge from that rank
also I think the complaints are coming up because the influx has been for weeks now, it should have been sorted out by now
in august 18 we had the big patch
by august 29 all the heroes were added
2 weeks later and the matchmaking still feels "off" for a lot of people
no idea if the hero rank is also exarcebating the problem or not, since if an ascendant goes to a new heroe they never played, they might queue with ritualists or lower
ivory reef
the bump is because of rank decay, I do remember seeing people in the reddit tal...
That bump isn't explained by rank decay unless it's only applying to a hyper specific set of players
You can see how it just doesn't align with the curve at all
If it were a statistical phenomenon you'd get a curve leading up to a maxima at 0
Something like a blackbody curve
agile void
mmm, true
ivory reef
Like, why are 3% of players at 0 but less than 1% of players at 1
That doesn't make sense if they've shifting down naturally
It's just a pile of 0s + an actual graph
People just complain about mmr in every game they play constantly
agile void
my first assumption is that anyone that was around archon or phantom when the game had the invitations released just stopped played half a year or more
so they just couldnt rank decay anymore beyond initiate 1
ivory reef
Oh like there was a whole graph and they all fell to 0 and a whole new graph of people showed up?
agile void
but you do make a fair point that there should be a curve leading up to it
ivory reef
I feel like you'd see at least a bit of curve at 0
Deadlock never had a period where nobody was allowed to play
agile void
It actually had
before there were specific hours were you were allowed to play per region
ivory reef
It did? Like after people started playing last year?
warped ridge
For ranked? Didn't they do some weird queue stuff wit-yeah
agile void
then the devs made it available
ivory reef
That's not the same thing
I mean like locking everyone out for a year to prepare for beta
agile void
For ranked? Didn't they do some weird queue stuff wit-yeah
not just ranked, at the start too they stopped players from going at certain hours