from @Starbind_S on twitter
#Elden Ring (DLC hype room)
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& for this I like that his signature technique for it wasn't a push, but a pull
he said run the ones
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from @Starbind_S on twitter
this art truly is so funny
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and then it ironically loops back around to underlining the similarities of life. Born on the planet, born in the stars, both cases you can start turning into something weird by getting too close to vital energy
I mean even glintstone mutation is that, because glintstone is alive
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the amber of the cosmos 💜
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life merges and melds with life. Eat a bunch of wizards -> you're glintstone now
the boundaries are just not absolute at all
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from @Starbind_S on twitter
Y'know I always pictured Radahn "fighting" the stars just being him concentrating and flexing really hard until they stopped moving through force of magical will but this way funnier
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yeah i think that's probably what actually happened
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The crazy bit is that Radahn was apparently just holding back the stars constantly
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but thinking about Radahn genuinely fucking launching himself into space to just fucking run the ones with the stars is funnier
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"Is that the Conqueror of the Stars?!? I better keep my ass locked in place, or I'm FINISHED!"
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"Is that the Conqueror of the Stars?!? I better keep my ass locked in place, or ...
Literally, it wasn't that they physically couldn't move the stars were literally just afraid of him
Unless, of course, like so many things in Elden Ring things aren't what they seem and his "conquest" was actually somehow partly diplomatic
And out there somewhere is Radahn's half-stellar child
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i like to imagine Radahn flew out into space to run the ultimate fade because that's the funniest possible way for things to occur
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And out there somewhere is Radahn's half-stellar child
how would we ever be able to tell who it could be?
(15 foot redhead with bug-wings standing behind me)
really funny that Radahn is just super tall
They're all tall but he's just huge
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you know
there are many ways to get transmogrified into some fuckshit
become bug, become tree, become bits of animal, become bit of alien, etc
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become rock
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that too
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become rock (different)
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crucjible... 😋....
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gain fingers (sinful)
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lose fingers (sinful)
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(a sign of our broken world)
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lose fingers (sinful)
I like to imagine this is why snakes are seen as base creatures lol
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Radahn seemed to be getting on until he got Rotted
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Radahn seemed to be getting on until he got Rotted
I think his hugeness is prolly crucible related (or giant related, but I don't think those are two separate ideas)
still its a pretty alright sort of mutation
he's just big
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They're all tall but he's just *huge*
It's funny we can't actually really say the original size of a lot of the Demigods. Like how big were Godwyn or Rykard before their respective transformations? Ranni's body is ironically at least as tall as her mother
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i like how Ranni downsized a bit
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And actually why is Rennalla so goddamn ginormous?
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some of them at least might be exaggerated for gameplay, but I love the game going out of its way to say "No, not Radahn. He really is that tall."
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And actually why is Rennalla so goddamn ginormous?
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And actually why is Rennalla so goddamn ginormous?
this one might be a gameplay one imo
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I guess she does have good royal blood, which is probably just tall
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iirc there is some correlation between strength and size
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she's probably tall but not like gigatall
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I don't know why but I always link Rennalla and the Demihuman Queens
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iirc there is some correlation between strength and size
the red-bears and leonine misbegotten might imply something like this
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mhm
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the land of shadow having bigger beasts in general, and beasts with more horns, because its so charged with life-energy
more runes doing the same thing, maybe
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The Rune Bears have dragon eyes, which always felt like some implication about absorbing Runes over time leading to some evolution/devolution thing going on
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The Rune Bears have dragon eyes, which always felt like some implication about a...
mfw the crucible
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I always wanted more explained about the relation between Dragons and the Crucible
Because there's clearly something there
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dragon communion getting lore is something i really appreciated getting more lore
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Are dragons just "primitive" in the sense that they hew closer to that earlier, undifferentiated world, which is why they show chimeric traits? (Hair, feathers, multiple limbs, horns, rocks)
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I think to some degree the lands between itself is the crucible, in that it's literally a big bowl where an (implied) big-magical-meteor hit in the center
both parts of that are sorta the crucible to me
the primordial soup water where life rose out of, and the thing that brought vitality to the planet (if ER is doing a panspermia thing)
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Are dragons just "primitive" in the sense that they hew closer to that earlier, ...
maybe a very refined version of it
Gold, all these features in balance
and then Bayle is something like an Omen Dragon
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i do think Bayle just being Satan is kinda funny
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Dragons actually did a bit of the reverse to the humans
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You do see the Dragons apparently losing it over time, with the later dragons having fewer limbs and less rocks
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rocks that became fleshier
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dragons/Wyverns and Ancient Dragons are also clearly quite different
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interesting that Bayle in particular is a dragon/wyvern
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Theres a bit of storytelling in him having an association with magma
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mhm
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an actual missing link between the rocks of the ancient dragons and the fire of the drakes
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so mad he melted his element into another
fire and light, too
thats another dichotomy between the red-gold
and the constant tension of any of the civilizations who liked gold to get rid of the stinky red stuff
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yeah the ancient dragons sorta just throw lightning
i guess Placidusax fires out light beams but they aren't really fire in that way
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Huh, this Elden Ring colour theory line is really jogging my noggin. Is Gravity Magic, then, sort of "base" magic? Blue + Red = Purple
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That might be going too far, but you also see the colours mixed with black or white as well. The Death Sorceries and Thorn Sorceries for Black and Blue and Black and Red respectively
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even in reverse, the Law of Regression is named after the Law of Universal Gravitation in japanese (either in title or flavor text)
and the sigil for gravity sorcery is probably one of the closet to the depiction of the 'microcosm' / lightless void
got a bit of an empty circle / eye thing going on
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The Microcosm Spells also feature all the colours including both black and white
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Its used by aliens, but also specifically by all the greater-will-children ones
its the magic of things from the heavens, and things that are closer to the thing which made the stars
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The Microcosm Spells also feature all the colours including both black and white
oh yeah the fingers are huge on this one
Shadow bait, invisibility, tracing light in the air
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Though, not really red actually which is maybe a Blindspot of the philosophy inherent there
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I think it's part of their duality thing. Two fingers representing division, and light + shadow as a really strong connection to that
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Though, not really red actually which is maybe a Blindspot of the philosophy inh...
the red stuff is always tied to the gold, tbf
its more related to the earthly elements, I guess?
The crucible and all the stuff from it, more than the aliens
and even then
Alabaster and Onyx Lords are white & black, and one does push magic
the other does pull magic
regression. maybe causality too?
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the red stuff is always tied to the gold, tbf
Formless mother type shit
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maybe white is just like really pure gold (like Miquella's unalloyed gold?), and so shadow is either a stronger form of the red stuff
or the red stuff is 'impurity' in the gold in the first place
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Yeah Red does crop up independently
Scarlet Rot is countered by Blue Water, rather than Gold
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Formless mother type shit
speaking of that & the color theory, I love that omen blood is iridescent
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Well, also the unalloyed gold I suppose
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its literally choke full of all sorts of mixing colors. Just a really fun visual metaphor for their mutations and the crucible in general.
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But that's more of a metaphysical cure all
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Scarlet Rot is countered by Blue Water, rather than Gold
this I sorta see as tied to it- gold and red are 'supposed' to meld together
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You do see them both shading into Green
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has trouble fighting off the rot because the rot is inside
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Green rot downgrades to green poison and the Golden Trees turn into regular green ones
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The Omen Horns are coming from inside the Order
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Blue feels a little more elusive because you have the blue crystals and stars and moon but also the blue Ancestor spirits and the Blue Swordsman
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its literally choke full of all sorts of mixing colors. Just a really fun visual...
Oh wow I never really grokked that, it's especially obvious with Morgott's sword
Which also then produced red fire
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I'm Normal about Omens. I've thought about them a Normal Amount.
I have the Normal amount of Morgott hype-art saved that you would expect someone to have. 
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Morgott is a top tier aura farmer of the royal family
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he's soooooo cool
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Morgott is a top tier aura farmer of the royal family
He takes after his father a lot in that respect
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Mohg might actually have him beat because he really commits to being Satan Pope
I like Morgott's aura more, but Mohg is really farming for it
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i think Godfrey takes the top spot just for like, his own intro speech
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Mohg is partly just clearly trying really hard, but in the wrong way
So he undercuts himself
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"Alas, i am returned" is just
the coolest fucking thing ever
also "i have given thee courtesy enough"
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We don't get to see Radahn in his prime outside of the intro
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asked my friends who they thought was the biggest aura farmer in the royal family
and my friend just said about Messmer
"i think he's a bit too much of a boyfailure"
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But the way he decides to draw his swords from the ground probably says enough about his aura farming proclivities
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We don't get to see Radahn in his prime outside of the intro
I think the Sote one probably counts
makes it more mythic
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yeah Radahn was for sure a PREMIUM aura farmer
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purest aura farming
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They're literally within arm's reach
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that was a pure flex
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i'm gonna be honest i think Radagon and Rennala just sent their children to mandatory aura classes at school
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I like the joke that he's also got 'Komi can't communicate' levels of inability to talk, and that's why he doesn't even say anything when he comes back
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doesn't he do it as PCR as well
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think so
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doesn't he do it as PCR as well
you know he was sooo fucking proud of that trick when he figured out how to do it
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visiting leyndell for the holidays just every 20 minutes "hey look at this"
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before he fights
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i'm gonna be honest i think Radagon and Rennala just sent their children to mand...
Ranni literally summons mist wherever she goes
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ok he might just be the biggest aura farmer
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Like it just appears around her when she pops up at the Elleh
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he fucking gravlifts them
for shape language here, there's something to him hitting the Marika Rune / Divine Gate / Crucible(?) pose
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I guess we have to qualify if it's a) amount of aura farmed or b) most aura farming done
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same weapons and same pose the divine bird warriors do
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can't be the latter imo
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Because if it's A it's definitely Godfrey but B is Radahn
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because that gives too much weight to morgott and ranni
who get to show up more
now, to be clear
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Godfrey's phase change earns a lot
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they are also in the running
morgott and ranni both do so much fucking aura farming
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but i think radahn is the highest percentage per-appearance
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tbf to Godfrey he only really shows up once
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Ranni literally summons mist wherever she goes
Ranni loses a bit of aura for stacking a half-dozen books under her doll to appear taller in her chair but gains three times the cuteness
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idk that Ranni is trying that hard to aura farm
i feel like she's just doing it out of habit if anything
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closest she gets is probably trying to aura farm for her mom
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nah she totally is, even if it's just off of ingrained habitual posturing
the mist thing is absolutely aura farming
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yeah that's what i mean
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she doesn't need to do that at her tower
and when she pops out for her ending
she doesn't need to go as hard as she does for that scene
(well, she does, but you know what i mean)
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like she's doing it actively but mostly because she was taught to look sick as fuck at all times
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closest she gets is probably trying to aura farm for her mom
"trying"
as if she doesn't succeed
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yeah that arena is crazy work
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as if this isn't one of the hardest poses and arenas in the entire GAME
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and the fucking title drop
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Radagon also manages a lot with just the one moment on screen
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Foul trespasser. Send word far and wide. Of the last Queen of Caria, Rennala of the Full Moon. And the majesty of the night she conjureth
🗣️ 🔥
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as if this isn't one of the hardest poses and arenas in the entire GAME
You can tell this is what Miyazaki wanted for Rom as well
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as if she doesn't succeed
thats fair I was thinking of the dialogue and not the arena
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Ranni was farming CRAZY aura for her mom
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the dialogues good! conjureth is just a little funny to me
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eh fair
but like, it's so hype
honestly cooler to me than Radagon showing up when you reach Marika
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The music is what really gets me for Radagon
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once again Godfrey gets SSS-tier for dialogue
Long and hard didst thou fight.
Tarnished Warrior.
Spurned by the grace of gold.
Be assured, the Elden Ring
resteth close at hand.
Alas, I am returned.
To be granted audience once more.
Upon my name as Godfrey,
The first Elden Lord!
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and 'The Elden Ring restesh close at hand' coming in with a slow pan up the burning Erdtree
really brings 'it's nearly over'
the game, the golden order, everything
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he also gets bonus points for like
just being the fucking badass warrior that we get to learn about
there's no admonishment, no scorn, no anger
he's your Lord, Godfrey
THE warrior of The Lands Between
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He's literally just Str Build, which I really respect
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And he still hits you with "Brave Tarnished, thy strength befits a crown" when you beat him
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yeah
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Which they admittedly one upped in the DLC with "Righteous Tarnished. Become our new lord. A lord not for gods, but for men."
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Ansbach is him tbf
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It's meant to be hyping the Tarnished but damn if it doesn't just make Ansbach even more him
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And he still hits you with "Brave Tarnished, thy strength befits a crown" when y...
Malenia with "Your strength, extraordinary... The mark...of a true Lord..." too
fun cultural element of the lands between is that so many people actually are hyped by battle prowess
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Malenia with "Your strength, extraordinary... The mark...of a true Lord..." too
I felt kinda bad about zorching her with the pre-nerf Comet Azur after that one the first time
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i hit PCR with Scarlet Aeonia when i fought him solo for the proper completion kill
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imagine her saying it but getting which one of you is the real one and which one is the mimic tear confused
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the other times i didn't win properly i summoned and did shield and poke respectively
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no coming back from that, she cooked you
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But then, if you can just open a portal to the Primeval Current to blast a godlet out of existence with I think that's probably enough strength to be a lord too
I will admit I've beaten her three times and only once did I fight her properly, since I also Bloodboon Ritualed her another time
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the one time i properly beat her
i was playing my spellsword
and i just
couldn't focus with magic
so i pulled out my sword and just ran the ones
hit some buffs, and just did a str fight
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Yeah if you aren't using one of the nuke spells it's really pretty hard to get her with regular magic since she's otherwise so fast
For me it was my pure str character rolling up with the Rusted Anchor
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The music is what really gets me for Radagon
Radagon is cheating a little by reprising the main theme but hell if it doesn't work
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Radagon cheating is what got us in this mess in the first place
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heyo
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L Bozo
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Radagon cheating is what got us in this mess in the first place
honestly bro could've cheated more. probably the loyalty that's causing the whole mess.
the Lands Between if Radagon told Marika "No, fuck off" when she (presumably) called him back to the capital: (idk imagine a picture of jarburg here)
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Jarburg :D
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Rennala you could have fixed him #nevergiveup
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don't think we can really blame Rennala for this one
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you know, true
and then of course its when Marika decides to trash the whole thing, now it's time for him to start taking a stand against her wishes
I can't with this dude
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worthless
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Just committed 90% of the way and then got cold feet anyway
he is absolutely gender goals though, imo. he did slay while doing it.
just look at that hair
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Radagon cheating is what got us in this mess in the first place
it is pretty awesome how the entire modern political clusterfuck in TLB can be traced to the Godfrey / Rennala / Marika / Radagon polycule from hell, though
cataclysmic fumbles all around
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leave my man Godfrey out of this
he didn't do nothing wrong
he wasn't even around when all the problems happened
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he didn't do nothing wrong
ehrm..... he had Omen children...!
also, they never really elaborate on when Radagon came about, but I like the idea that like
Godfrey was sort of 'cheating' on the part of Marika
like Radagon was always 'the Lord' to Marika's 'the God' in a weird metaphysics sense, it's just that she tried running it with Godfrey as her Lord (political, marriage) because of love
not really any mention of Radagon in the Land of Shadow, iirc, except maybe (maybe) being in the trailer for a half-sec turning into Marika, at the Gate
I could see part of Marika's betrayal as almost cheating the system to be both a lord and a god in one, at the very start
still not really Godfrey's fault, but the consequences of his engagement with Marika? The consequences of the Tarnished Host? definitely big deals.
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like Radagon was always 'the Lord' to Marika's 'the God' in a weird metaphysics ...
obviously very speculative, but it's worth noting that the visual we get of Marika becoming a God, communing with the Elden Beast (It's roar plays) at the Gate,
no Godfrey nearby
if the white bark scroll is supposed to also describe what Marika did, with a Lord ushering in a God's return, there is nothing else up there but her (/radagon) & The Slug
Its got a nice sense of things going full circle, for me. All the characters theres at the start who are there at the end. A dramatic ritual with insane consequences to all involved they couldn't see enough to regret yet, that would cause so many problems later.
The other idea I play with about Radagon's origin is probably him being 'born' after Marika takes the ring bodily into herself, where he & his red-hair physically separate all the 'baser' elements from Marika in the same way the (red) Rune of Death was physically separated from the ring. Which I also like.
Turns him into effectively divine cast-off, and turns him getting called back into Marika re-thinking the pieces of the Elden Ring she's removed. Clearly, the parts she thought were bangin' was still making horned children, and the parts she cast off was having Empyreans. What gives? -> Time to rigorously study this thing for real.
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if the white bark scroll is supposed to also describe what Marika did, with a Lo...
(I love how the Beast Invocation & Dancing Lion serves to re-contextualize the Elden Beast as the biggest divine spirit, called at the largest spirit-calling-horn ever made.)
literally the holiest Beast, 'from higher sphere deliver'd'. pretty cool.
I played all the souls games, and they are all good! they all have great design and aesthetics! But ER's worldbuilding is just 
. Everything just comes together a little more cohesively.
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ehrm..... he had Omen children...!
how are you gonna blame him for having kids with his wife???
he hardly can do anything about genetics
and if anything it's cosmic karma for Marika genociding the Hornsent
like with Radagon having traits like the fire giants and such
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how are you gonna blame him for having kids with his wife???
I didn't say he was morally bad for it, just, you know. Caused a bunch of problems down the line.
I mean morally the wrong thing was probably the conquest and genocide
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yeah
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but he was sent away, imo, for the Omen kids
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i mean you can blame him for going around killing everything i guess
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blaming him for having kids is kinda iffy tho
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thats just leaning into the bit, where the GO consider the Omen 'born wrong'
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again he doesn't have any more control over genetics than his God Queen wife does
which
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I think it's awesome they got horns
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given how fucked up and weird all her kids turned out
clearly she had no control over it
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yeah I'm speaking from the perspective of the GO, which is limited here
well, she did instill "All things are linked together" and "all things move towards melding together" into universal law, and then become that law
not surprising her kids keep getting linked to all sorts of things
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yeah
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I'm not sure how widely known it was that Godfrey had Omen kids, though
it seems very hidden, 'strictest confinement' and all
I think it was probably something they didn't want to get out
it would be a shame to Godfrey if it did
(regardless of how he felt on it, that's just the reaction people would have)
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yeah
i mean just going off his reaction to Morgott
and his general warrior king aesthetic
i don't really think he cared
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big wifeguy, followed her lead
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Also he seems to have been from the Land of Shadow, too
judging from those Hourah Loux types in the highlands
so he'd definitely be familiar with horns, and didn't grow up in a culture like the GO that had it's biases
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the Crucible Knights were also his lads iirc
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kind of his tragedy to me, that him being a warrior king that embodies the heroism of the land of shadow so much is probably why his kids were so incredibly touched by the Crucible
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yeah
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yeah and that
like he's the icon of that sort of warrior... which meant it's inseparable from what seems to have forced him to step down
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Hoarah Loux for all we know might have just been from a crucible worshipping culture
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the thing that won his crown is what made him have to go
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i find it incredibly doubtful that he had any personal issues with omens regardless
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but culture is bigger than him, and the things he built were bigger than him too
like Marika
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yeah
i saw a really good video on him
it was like, maybe a bit of glaze, but it went into a lot of the ways in which Marika might actually have conquered the lands between mostly off the back of his clout
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seems like part of the metaphor being used is that Gods serve as a sort of ideology or Icon, and then the Lord is the chief follower
the muscle
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it talks a lot about Godfreys connections to beasts, political power, and his status as the greatest warrior of the lands between
it was a very thought provoking and interesting video
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No wonder the Lord of the Erdtree casts a long shadow over the lands.
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also do kinda like the narrative personally so i do find i maybe agree with it more based on that
but Godfrey really is him
like hearing about him so much set up expectations
and when i fought him for the first time
i honestly did think to myself, that this was someone whom i would call a lord
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I think we've talked about this before, but I find him tragic by the very end just because by that point Marika is really gone. He honestly doesn't really have any more of a vision of the Lands Between going forward than Gideon would.
What is he even fighting for?
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yeah
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What could he be fighting for?
He's still him. But he's from an age that has long, long since passed
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i'd big rec watching the video
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I'll check it out, Hawkshaws pretty interesting
idk if I watched much of their ER stuff, but the dark souls stuff they made was cool
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but yeah idk
the idea holds extra merit to me cause like
Godfrey is the guy who would be inspiring the armies
we don't really get to see much of Marika in terms of her leadership as Queen Eternal
but if i was a soldier it'd be Godfrey who got me to get up and keep fighting
he's a lead from the front kinda guy
idk he's kinda just the coolest, even only interacting with him in that one fight cemented him as the GOAT in my mind
imagine having actually fought alongside him
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More funny than useful but I've learned you can point Undertaker's ult up and just fly into the skybox until you hit an invisible wall in the training area (if you turn off limited ults for training purposes)
in other news I've been continuing to beat my head against the Balancers and still no dice, it's a nasty fight! and decent great hollow routing continues to elude my friends and I so we're usually going into the fight at level 10-11 if we get there at all (we've had some real bad day 2s)
also a very minor gripe: as far as I can tell, the map has no Evergaols. This isn't bad per se, but since it's somewhat random whether you see this map or limveld, it means that my friends kitting out with Evergaol boosts and a starting stonesword key just have a dead relic slot when the map decides to give you great hollow
I wasn't doing this on Scholar since his direct attack power is just not anything to write home about in general (and it doesn't really apply to status application) but it's problematic on my friends running actual dps builds 💀
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BBH jumpscare
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also a very minor gripe: as far as I can tell, the map has no Evergaols. This is...
yep. DLC mostly killed evergaol relic meta, which is probably for the better
if you're going for like speedrun times you're probably still doing evergaol+libra invasion or something, but you're correct that the great hollow map makes that relic/stonesword keys in general totally useless
the upside is that balancer relic & ed balancer relic are genuinely the two single strongest relics in the game for everybody not named recluse/revenant, once you manage to beat them
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More funny than useful but I've learned you can point Undertaker's ult up and ju...
you also used to be able to get on the top of roundtable hold, which is cool, but i think they patched a wall there :(
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I actually really like this guys aesthetic too
both the winding rusty barbed-wire thorns, and the sick sword
sheeeeeeesh
how he fights adds a lot too
It's just a raw hunk of a sword. Light on ornamentation (for Elden Ring) that he didn't add after yoinking it from the last owners.
Purely a tool to kill people and as ugly as that should be. its awesome.
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Isn't it the sword they tried to execute him with
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time for nokstella
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time for night,
but still no rain...
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gonna go get a knife for my wife so she can stab some divine arbiters
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this machine kills angels
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wow, rando ditched my friend and I on one of the best runs we've had in memory. We hit level 15 and almost beat balancers anyway
if the third hadn't dipped right at the beginning of the fight I honestly think we'd have had it
at least I'm getting the hang of their movesets now, kinda
also, using Scholar's Ult with the damage relic is very funny in the middle of a dense camp
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scholar ult + the damage relic is just so much fun
i like popping it in the middle of magic/golem fort and hitting literally everything, including on the floors above & below you
obtuse halo
Yeah I got to do that on that session, and it really does just kill everything
It's such a strong opening move to start a run too since the pile of runes from all the adds let you pile on some levels immediately
frozen olive
is the easy starting camp still a thing for the dlc
obtuse halo
yes
though I've found the one on the new map to be kind of a pain in the butt if it spawns claymen
it's not that they're super difficult (they're really not) but they're much tankier than most trash mobs
frozen olive
claymen suck to kill yeah
obtuse halo
i think my dumbest death on that map might be getting command grabbed by a Clayman add on the way to the night 2 boss arena and then dying to the rain
really screaming "oh my god hurry up and stab me I have places to be" at my monitor
it's a loooong animation
frozen olive
it is yeah...
obtuse halo
took a break from beating my face against balancers to do Tricephalos with randoms. It wasn't really the best run ever (the randoms kept running off in separate directions) and we were only level 9 as a result of some very inefficient play but we still managed to win the run and I at least felt pretty good about my performance during the big fights, lol
Really getting the hang of scholar now and it feels real good to do this much support
I keep learning new things about the ult and it really kicks so much ass. It also threads allies and the allies get healed by damage coming through? Including dead allies, with threaded damage chewing at the revive bar?
frozen olive
bro fr
tropic stream
Oh, and speaking of
Elden Ring and sorcery
I have a magic samurai build that doesn't use Moonveil
however
Fuck me Moonveil looks so cool
I may be weak
And put down the star-lined
proven cloak
Radagon dumbest mf in the Lands
frozen olive
i used line of stars on my multiplayer run i did with my friends
frozen olive
genuinely
he deserves the fact he lost all his dogs in the divorce and his kids hate him
proven cloak
well Miquella likes him, at least. And Radahn takes pride in the red hair.... half point?
Miquella is also trying to be his opp though, so idk how that shakes out
1.5 kids that like him. Somehow still more popular with their kids than Marika, its bleak.
tropic stream
Shit is indeed bleak
frozen olive
Marika threw at least two of her kids in the sewers for existing
idk
kinda warranted hate
proven cloak
reminds me of the unfortunately common stance people took when SotE came out, going "Oh wow, I guess the Hornsent deserved it"
just completely dodging what is being said
I am sympathetic to Marika to a point, but like- she also did do all that. and she really didn't need to!
tropic stream
just completely dodging what is being said
There's a vid that got posted a bit ago about how that rhetoric is echoed in the Israeli genocide of Palestine and uh
A bit chilling!
tropic stream
Marika threw at least two of her kids in the sewers for existing
Oh, Freyja
Way swerving here
What's your build so far?
frozen olive
my friend wanted me to use Gaius Sword Lance
went with the weapon type since i couldn't get the sword lance
tropic stream
lol
median rock
it's not that they're super difficult (they're really not) but they're much tank...
kill the jellyfish and the crabs. faster and there's plenty of runes to go around
median rock
I keep learning new things about the ult and it really kicks so much ass. It als...
correct. similar to rev ult, make sure you use it while teammates aren't in iframes tho (certain grab attacks, actively going down, and a couple other things) or they won't get chained by it
obtuse halo
yeah that's always the first boss I do on the map
median rock
no, the crabs on the ground
obtuse halo
OH
median rock
like instead of the claymen do the small crabs
obtuse halo
that's hilarious
median rock
and the jellyfish
they'll die in 1 hit and they're like 400 runes but they're faster than the claymen for sure
but yeah scholar ult links u and damage=healing, and damage=revive bar damage for downed allies. its super useful
do you know how scholar skill parry works?
obtuse halo
Yes, but i'm far from mastering it
median rock
yeah i don't really play him so i can't do it at all lol, just in case u didn't know that, since i don't think its mentioned anywhere in game
obtuse halo
I get the concept, the execution is just awkward though since you practically have to go into the analyze mode while up the boss's butt. Very tight timing on that shield
median rock
i think its more useful for like, big aoes and stuff
obtuse halo
I will admit not knowing it worked on big aoes
median rock
i think you just get iframes no matter what (when you conclude the analyze)
but i'm not 100% how long they last or how easy it is to time
obtuse halo
oh iframes sure, I mean like, the parry stagger
my general gut sense is it's longer than a normal parry window but you also have more of a windup to do it since you need a maxed analyze bar
median rock
ive gotten parry stagger thing on heolster when he does his phase transition (the sky -> ground slam thing at half hp in phase 2) while within ~10 ft of him with scholar
but i don't know if it works on like, adel ground slam aoe lines as well
obtuse halo
I did use the Ult iframes last night to basically ignore most of Mogh's Nihil spam, which is pretty funny
since you're invincible during the animation and it's fairly long
Getting Mogh'd all over? Just say no
median rock
i should probably figure out what a good scholar build looks like and try him out more
both of his rememberance relics are like S tier relics so its mostly the third one + what i want to actually do with him
obtuse halo
I'm currently using the starting RRY vessel and the Cleansing Tear from his Remembrance, Fathom of Night Relic, and a random yellow one that seemed pretty good
median rock
since i know pot/throwing builds are cracked but i don't know if they're actually any good w/o "throwing power +0/+1" relics
obtuse halo
I haven't gotten the second remembrance relic yet, I'm at 7 on the journal
median rock
and i'm dubious on a lot of the arcane/status builds actually being good given like. it doesn't work on a lot (not all, but a lot) of the harder enemies in the game, including half the nightlords
ring ding ding wraith calling bell is fun and surprisingly effective tho, i'll give em that
obtuse halo
Yeah I run status weapons on him just because that's the most consistent way for him to do any damage, but I mostly don't expect him to do damage
I've stopped running start with wraith calling bell, but I'll hit graves as I run past and see if one spawns
because it's very useful for harassing bosses between analyzes and other stuff
median rock
the optimal generic setup might genuinely be both rememberance + ed balancer relic but i feel like i kinda want "items share to allies" somewhere in thre
obtuse halo
I've found pots to be pretty strong but they run out fast against nightlords
yeah that's what I'm using Fathom of Night for
the HP boost is also very welcome
50% more HP at level 1 and still like 10-11% more at 15 is very welcome for not dying as much
he's not as squishy as duchess but he's pretty squishy
median rock
wanna know something fucked up? "improved maximum hp" is actually a different relic effect on normal relics vs. DoN relics
obtuse halo
that IS fucked up
median rock
on normal relics like fathom, its +5 vigor. on DoN relics, its 1.1x maximum hp, multiplicative on your final hp number and stacking with itself
same for fp/stamina, they're +5 stats but on deep relics they're 1.15x/1.12x
very helpful for figuring out what stacks/doesn't stack, and if its worth doing (for example) magic attack power +2 vs. "improved sorceries" vs "improved night sorceries" or whatever
obtuse halo
oh see stuff like "but what do the grief effects do" alone is very good to know
median rock
yep
i think out of the grief ones scholar and executor are weirdly helpful for... like raider and wylder but not ironeye? for status buildup
oh yeah jane lmk if you want to play next time ur queuing like random triceph expeditions. im down to help w balancers fight as well if u want
not sure your timezone tho (i'm west coast america, it's noon for me right now)
obtuse halo
same actually! I might or might not take you up on that at some point, I've mostly been playing with a couple of irl friends but availability is a limiter
come to think of it I should probably see if my brother wants to play, since he did buy me the game...
median rock
i was super dubious on if i wanted to get nightreign, finally pulled the trigger when 2 other friends were giving it a shot
i was like 'ahhh might as well try, let's see'. fast forward a year or w/e, i've got ~300 hours in-game doing runs (~400 on steam) and i think neither of them have more than 10 hours
median rock
same actually! I might or might not take you up on that at some point, I've most...
yeah, fair enough. i mostly play later in the evenings after i get home from work + finish doing work that i brought home w me, so i end up in china/jp servers a lot of the time 😔
there's nothing wrong with most of the players, but anecdotally there's a lot more obviously hacked relics on the chinese players and a lot more dc/ping problems due to distance :(
obtuse halo
undertaker's remembrance is pretty spicy, just got it to 4/4 (i'm getting the hang of her now)
She seems normal and nice
obtuse halo
Update, I have successfully analyze parried mogh and that clinched the fight. You love to see it
sadly we didn't quite get that balancers run but it was real close (we were only level 11)
if I'd been able to set off my ult one more time (followed by the undertaker taking the shot) we'd have had it though, so it was close close
median rock
😔
btw you can change shifting earths to do a non-great hollow balancers run, if you want
i'll sometimes queue the harder bosses partially for fun/partially to carry (since ive got godtier relic setups for most of my builds), and i think a lot of people don't know that for some reason
holy shit volcano map has a maus balancers seed?
obtuse halo
wow, Dreglord fight is craaaazy
first try got it down to 20% (of its second health bar) and goddamn that was a lot
median rock
it is cinema, though
obtuse halo
Oh, visually stunning
proven cloak
first try got it down to 20% (of its second health bar) and goddamn that was a l...
"Dreglord situation is crazy"
I like how crunchy they let it and the attacks be
crusty-crunchy
kind garden
Dreglord goes hard
median rock
a new one for me. apparently, beast claw is a projectile
languid tiger
well yeah, it's got the beams
median rock
i suppose it makes a sort of sense. sorta. but it's an interesting niche interaction that i've never seen before, since there's not a ton of enemies with similar roars/shockwaves (faurtis, godrick, a couple others i guess)
languid tiger
tree sentinels
median rock
it doesn't bounce off their shield / reflect when they're parrying magic, it'll just stop
languid tiger
hm? it has for me
median rock
which i guess yeah but that also applies to some non-projectile effects (like certain melee ashes of war)
hm, maybe weird hitboxes on the parry then
sometimes i'ts also fascinating around elevation, this happens to be a particularly extreme example from the same run
languid tiger
yeah, a couple of those spells get wacky with z tracking
median rock
that one isn't exactly new to me, that just happens to be the most extreme one i've remembered to clip (since i have steam set to autorecord last 2 hours of gameplay)
also, first time in 50-60 hours on rev alone that i've gotten a red beast claw seal. mildly amusing
obtuse halo
Great night for Nightreign
my team beat the Dreglord (it was very smooth, I even still had flasks this time) and we came within a hair's breadth of Everdark Balancers
(good LORD)
obtuse halo
Oh and I finished Scholar Remembrance + helped friend do Undertaker Remembrance
That relic is glued to my yellow slot now goddamn
obtuse halo
i suppose it makes a sort of sense. sorta. but it's an interesting niche interac...
I have been hit by my own arrows fighting godrick lmao
median rock
my team beat the Dreglord (it was very smooth, I even still had flasks this time...
grats! dreglord really is one of my favorite fights, mechanically, in nightreign. just a lot of fun
i also personally find ED balancers easier than normal balancers once you know how to do it, so i'm sure you'll get there soon
and you can figure out if you like RRY chalice scholar w/ 2 rememberances + night of the fathom, or 2 rememberance + will of balance
obtuse halo
lol I have indeed been using Night of the Fathom
and the two remembrance relics. They're quite powerful!
obtuse halo
i also personally find ED balancers easier than normal balancers once you know h...
Yeah, apparently you're supposed to handle the arena nuke by running in and trying to stagger, which we had absolutely no way of knowing going in, unlike most other arena nukes where you really wanna get some distance
median rock
i have never done that to it personally
i just time the rolls or get really far (past the outermost pillars)
assuming you mean the giga nuke he starts doing halfway through phase two, not the normal ground pound multihit one, the really big "lines in every direction simultaneously" one
median rock
and the two remembrance relics. They're quite powerful!
honestly defeating enemies gives ult +0/+1 strong candidates for single best relic effect, but esp on scholar w continuous damage
you just get so many ults off even w/o great hollow buff
obtuse halo
Yeah it's very satisfying to melt stuff with it, and even in a single boss fight it's huge for the healing alone
median rock
have you done the rest of the ed bosses btw? i assume so but just curious
obtuse halo
Only Adel
We did ED balancers mostly to challenge an ED but also so I could help my friend get undertaker remembrance (the later stages of scholar remembrance imply that she rescued him so I guessed, correctly as it turns out, that I needed to lead him through the minidungeon from that remembrance)
median rock
ahh yeah you need to be doing balancers expedition in hollow for that one
obtuse halo
mhm
median rock
that's the one where he's in the rafters right?
obtuse halo
yes
median rock
was a bitch to find for me
obtuse halo
i knew the way up since I'd recently done the scholar version (which of course has considerably less time pressure) so I just led him up there
obtuse halo
hahaaa
median rock
bonus pts because i did not realize the rock was climbable for a while
so i was just running around going ??? where
obtuse halo
yeah it took me a bit to figure out where to go during the scholar version too
but there's no time pressure and you can't leave besides by postponing the remembrance so I figured it out eventually
It definitely feels like you're supposed to be progressing those two mostly equally for them to fully make sense
just interconnected stories
obtuse halo
damn, my friends and I did a run at everdark fulghor and it was close but we choked on the last bit of the final phase
tropic stream
We are beating the shit out of NG+ Godrick for the second time
Dex/Int
He is literally already dead
obtuse halo
lmao
tropic stream
We were typing that after the first cutscene
obtuse halo
god I have not been having luck today with runs
it's not even hard ones, it's just queuing randos against tricephalos to try to progress journals
sometimes people just don't know what they're doing, sometimes we get really unlucky with the map layout (fuck the version of the castle with trolls), and at least one case we were absolutely jacked and it should have been easy, but my router blipped in the middle of the nightlord battle and I got booted from the session, which finished before I could reset it
i'm doomed to be stuck at raider 5/5 forever I swear
obtuse halo
Revenant Players are just built different. Never seen a bad Revenant Rando
(we won this one)
The Wylder ditched toward the end of Day 1 and honestly their loss
obtuse halo
I can't emphasize how brutal this was enough, incidentally. I only used one flask for the nightlord fight
incredibly clean tank and spank
I did give revenant a shot today and also won first try with her
Her journal jumped up to 6/6 immediately after literally playing her for the first time. Raider has been stuck at 5/5 for aeons, what giiiives 😩
plush cliffBOT
Her remembrance works entirely differently from everyone else's, it's weird
median rock
note timestamps from defeating n2 boss to wiping
almost a full 15 minutes, since we all ran to the door pretty much immediately
welcome to "needs viagra" libra, ladies gentlemen & others. fuck that guy
(it was hidden boss so we had no warning, and we had both rev & ironeye (i was exe), so the NPC summons were nearly the worst possible)
obtuse halo
goddamn
median rock
the only thing worse than depth5 ed libra is the depth 5 ed libra you don't expect
median rock
it's really not as bad as people think
mostly because you get 3 extra relics slots that you can just put phys attack +10% in, each, multipliactive. that offsets a lot
not counting the other cracked relic effects
if you're playing a caster build (rev/recluse/duchess as mage) you can get even crazier, since the +spell type things can show up on the same relic as +damage type up
the "damage" relic effect only considers "improved sorceries/incantations" generic, "improved X attack power +0/+4" as the same thing. "improved X type sorceries/incants" and "improved damage vs X ailment" guys are the same category as each other iirc, but different from the normal damage relic effect category
obtuse halo
yeah I'm still working on getting decent mainslot relics for a lot of characters
funnily enough I completely forgot to equip Revenant with any relics when I took her out earlier
median rock
yeah you can get pretty far with boss relics + everdark shop relics, thankfully
more on some characters than others, but there's some really good relic builds w just "guaranteed" relics
median rock
i love this big merch staff
i check to see if its there every time im playing a caster and big merch is there
<3
oh yeah, the other fun thing about DoN - you get HELLA murk. i don't really know how it works but i get like 4k per game or something, i think it goes up with depth, but there's not a big diff in murk between depth3 and 5 i think. i spend like 100k every couple days of playing because if i let it build up too long it takes fucking forever to spend at the jar bazaar, bc its 600 per relic but you can only roll 10x600 aka 6000 murk of gamba at once
actually its more like 10k per i think. ive probably done like ~15 games in the last couple days and i just spent down to 100k, and ive got 260k rn. since you get like 5-7k for a winning run, and then i end up selling all the random garbo relics i got for ~650 each (so another ~5k from selling the 10 relics or so, since they mostly give you a mix of both purple normal/deep relics if you win)
this means its by far the fastest way to get relics, it beats out grinding heolster or even like doing great hollow and completing both towers (total +4k if you do both, +2k if you do only one) for relic/murk drops. the rewards don't go up with depth or anything, so running depth 1 itself works fine. damage/hp at depth 1 is just +25-35% for everything, which is def noticeable but it's really nothing super crazy. especially considering you get those 3 relic slots, so even garbo relic rolls are probably enough to offset it
if you keep playing a bunch of nightreign, once u get all ED bosses done i'd for sure just start running depth 1 (either solo queue or with friends), the players aren't that much worse than random solos but its worth it
also, i really want stats on this. but i feel like my winrate against artorias is lower than any other single enemy in this game including giant crabs and the stupid spiky blobs from blood ruins
obtuse halo
wait this is cute what the heck, you can't show me that fucking bloodborne ass horror scene and then jumpcut to something this cute
anyway I finished Revenant's Remembrance
frozen olive
Revenant my beloved 💜
obtuse halo
I think the thing that surprised me most seeing her in action is she basically acts like Vegeta. She wants to fight and sasses you if you're talky. Big chip on her shoulder lmao
frozen olive
beat the mimic boss
i am simply better than myself
it kept trying to use the shield i have equipped
but i have piercing fang as my current AoW
i didn't swap or change anything in my build for this fight, just beat it with what i had equipped
obtuse halo
mimic fight on bow-only was a hilarious marathon
I did unequip the dagger and restart because the mimic refused to even play my game with the bow with a melee weapon available, no matter how bad of one
frozen olive
lmaooooo
obtuse halo
if I were to come up with a fan nightfarer, it'd be some kind of cavalryman who favors spears and has access to a not-Torrent as a skill
kind garden
that would go hard actually
frozen olive
doing quests and i'm reminded how much i hate Corhyn
real shadow
if I were to come up with a fan nightfarer, it'd be some kind of cavalryman who ...
Ult has a ghost brigade of cavalry doing a charge.
obtuse halo
Yeah steal the move from the night 2 Tree Sentinel boss
frozen olive
doing a no magic run feels so weird
obtuse halo
in fact, make it an ability rather than a skill, and make the surge sprint mounting up, with either no or reduced stamina cost for doing so mid-fight
which frees up the skill slot for something else
frozen olive
Boc honestly has to be my fave character in Elden Ring
obtuse halo
there shouldn't have been a mirror in nightreign, it should have just been Boc hanging out in a corner
frozen olive
real
real shadow
Or his mom, who I'm sure was also a gifted seamstress.
median rock
i love seafood boils
proven cloak
i have obtained 151 boiled prawn from Blackguard Boggart
you must be 'ungry
frozen olive
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
frozen olive
this is like a top three most dogshit boss in the game
obtuse halo
On my first playthrough with my dex arc bleed thrusting sword build I honestly found it easier to bait them both off the ledge rather than fight fair
median rock
if they didn't have the poison breath attack it'd be totally chill. hard and annoying but not nightmarish
but that part fucks it
onyx trench
There's a cliff?
frozen olive
might be time to find a strike weapon
i'm stuck with the Great Eepy
median rock
yeah, near the back entrance where they come in from / also on the right of where you spawn (like far to the right)
obtuse halo
Yeah, to the right of the entryway
onyx trench
And yeah it's 100% the poison breath that does me in, too
frozen olive
i would genuinely rather have 5 godefroys
median rock
i think they serve the gameplay role of being a DPS check more than anything else
frozen olive
got like 3 attacks in 💀
median rock
unsure if a magic infusion would actually appreciably raise your damage either
it might, tho, since that char has basically zip for weapon scaling stats rn it looks like
so maybe there's a world where glintstone pebble ash is the way to go
onyx trench
Heavy scales reasonably with str
median rock
yeah but it's str 30 and i don't think freyja is sequence breaking anything, so i'm assuming that weapon isn't any higher than maybe +12/+15 at highest
frozen olive
do they like
just drop poison without spitting it out
cause there is just poison everywhere in the arena
onyx trench
Shouldn't do iirc
frozen olive
i have no boluses
median rock
no but the poison lingers and spreads
median rock
it'll last for a weirdly long time
it doesnt spread too too much but like it'll continue expanding beyond what the visual model seems to be when it first is doing the breath animation
frozen olive
this boss sucks so much
median rock
genuinely just come back when u have a weapon/stat lvl actually suitable for garg fight, unless u want to be in rng purgatory
its not impossible its just gonna take forever to get a run where you don't get poison cheesed into oblivion
frozen olive
my immediate thought upon seeing the arena was "ok i should stop playing now"
i'm trynna do Ranni's quest...
median rock
otherwise this might also be a magic grease angle
rannis quest doesnt require gargs at any point in time
you went the wrong direction in nokstella
onyx trench
Yeah
frozen olive
oh ok
onyx trench
ish
median rock
the only thing that requires gargs is fia's quest, which requires either gargs or doing the sewer parkour down to the frenzied flame proscription
onyx trench
Are you avoiding spoilers generally?
median rock
you can kill him for twinned armor i think
frozen olive
Are you avoiding spoilers generally?
naw
median rock
behind gargs is a crucible spear knight miniboss w that weapon/armor set, the ash of war for golden land & vacuum slice, the death staff, and then the fia stuff. oh and elden stars
thats it
onyx trench
Oh right lol
median rock
well, that's it for things you care abuot. tho i guess there's a minimaus there? no bell
onyx trench
You can't do Fia until you do Morgott
median rock
i dont think it's a beller at least
frozen olive
oh ok
median rock
you can do fia before morgott
median rock
you can't do fia from frenzied flame proscription before morgott, but you can do gargs fine
frozen olive
be a bit underleveled for most content
onyx trench
Oh, I thought there was a barrier on that direction too
frozen olive
so i can get a good boss fighting experience
median rock
nope. the waygate in her arena won't work if you haven't done DTS, but it'll work if you have
frozen olive
since this is my "beat all bosses in Elden Ring solo" run
i'm not using magic or summons of any kind, just me vs. the world
median rock
well, done DTS aka broke the seal with 2 great runes i mean. it'll take you into cap but you can't get into cap early without 2 great runes, so its just turned off
frozen olive
the magic thing is mostly a restriction since i always play half caster and i wanted to give full melee a shot
median rock
you're not allowed to finish the quest until you've progressed ranni to a decent pt to get the cursemark but i think there's no other progression requirements for fortissax?
idk. i mostly play rando at this point and i don't think rando removes anything from fortissax, at least
median rock
hm i wonder if gravitas works on great epee
probably
might be a good pickup, from the limgrave alabaster lord on the beach iirc
median rock
you can't put it on small weapons, so i'm not sure if it'd work on thrusting swords, but heavy thrusting swords are probably fine
onyx trench
Oh, any weapon except small and whip
median rock
tho i think there's like only 2 infusable HTSs in base game, stitcher and epee
frozen olive
proven cloak
oof
frozen olive
i genuinely have no useful talismans
charred ember
Where’s the poison from?
obtuse halo
The boss does it
charred ember
Oh
obtuse halo
Poison breath attack
frozen olive
it just breathes poison on the ground
constantly
both of them do it
every second you're not fighting them is a second they are taking the time to fuck with the arena for no reason
charred ember
Ah
frozen olive
it does tons of damage and poisons you
gonna see if i can get even a single actually useful talisman
fucking gurranq got pissed off as if just to make me a bit more annoyed
and i ofc can't actually hurt him enough
nvm frost pot moment
frozen olive
do the poison clouds just last forever
real shadow
Nah they go away eventually, it just feels like forever.
frozen olive
ooh i got Giant Hunt...
awwww
Melina has a dialogue where she talks about how happy Boc is to see you and asks you to talk to him more because she thinks he'd be very happy to see you 😭
frozen olive
back in the lake of rot
fighting Astel now
this fight is significantly less fun when i have to spend 70% of the fight just running around
ok didn't know it could combo a grab with its teleport
straight up hit me with the "nothing personal kid"
ok and it's an one-shot
so close
got hit with the grab 😔
gottem
time for wife
frozen olive
Adula time actually, the fire one-shots me though 💀
nevermind i could survive it barely at full hp
real shadow
this fight is significantly less fun when i have to spend 70% of the fight just ...
It's a fight I wish they'd let you use Torrent with because the arena is just a little too big.
frozen olive
yeah
it is
time to fight Blaidd
i am, underleveled for this
or at least i don't have nearly enough vigor
ok giant hunt fucking sweeps
fleet bronze
Giant Hunt goes crazy
frozen olive
Giant Hunt is actually insane
this is the shit Don Quixote was using to slay giants
fleet bronze
Literally, I absolutely love it on Ultra Greatswords
It's much more stylish than Lions Claw too, though it has a little less ease of use
frozen olive
can't use Dark Moon Greatsword this run 😔
i've been using piercing fang
prolly good for me to go to Leyndell soon
i might actually just do the uh
Gelmir questline as far as i can go with it rn
time to become a recusant
frozen olive
finally got my third possible weapon, the Godskin Stitcher
low-key like its heavy more than the great eepy's
might swap
glossy delta
As far as heavy thrusting swords go I just can't take myself away from Bloody Helice
frozen olive
i don't got the stats for it
i'd need to drop 7 levels into arcane to do nothing but use it for bloody helice as well as more into dex
glossy delta
Solution is simple,
Do an arcane build,
(This is valid)
plush cliffBOT
Genuinely the most stylish ash of war in the game
Namoeleon (ping me about D&D 4e) ↩️
Arcane builds are really fun
Namoeleon (ping me about D&D 4e) ↩️
Venomous fangs our beloved 😌
frozen olive
damn it
need to do the stupid wyrm to get to altus
i hate the ruin strewn precipice
invasion time
finally
raging wolf armor is within my reach
glossy delta
Yeahhhhhh.....
Baked in double slash
Heinous
Even just like poison moth slash would be fun
frozen olive
huh
just realized Melina says one of the same things that Godfrey says
Godfrey says "Long and hard didst thou fight"
obtuse halo
Yeahhhhhh.....
Baked in double slash
Heinous
Even just like poison moth slash wo...
Poison Moth Flight is only debatably good, but god if it wouldn't make a very nice package on serpentbone blade
I would run it on my Snake Lady invader over the serpent-god curved sword (or in a second slot) if that were the case
(her actual setup is Heavy Serpent-God Curved Sword with Poison Moth Flight, Coil Shield, and Kindred of Rot Exultation)
I could get bigger numbers with the mushroom crown but that isn't fashion
obtuse halo
I could get bigger numbers with the mushroom crown but that isn't fashion
(also I usually get a kill if I land poison moth flight anyway)
Fun fact, the best time to do it is when they're pulling out the Bolus animation
soooo many people go into their inventory to get a bolus if they get hit by poison
brave with an invader still near you
plush cliffBOT
The R2s are fun at least
The Rhi System (PK in Progress) ↩️
obtuse halo
yeah the moveset is nice
frozen olive
also i swapped out to the Great Eepy for the Godskin Stitcher
it has a poke heavy
which i personally prefer
too many times have i had a swing whiff cause i just hit a wall
obtuse halo
It's only the Great Eepy if you use Soporific Grease
obtuse halo
I like having slash heavies on thrusting weapons because it gives you options, you just gotta be mindful of your moveset
frozen olive
mhm
obtuse halo
this was always kinda the claim to fame of the Partisan over other spears, for example
frozen olive
tbh i usually prefer a like
swinging moveset with a heavy stab
the other way around just doesn't work for me at all
obtuse halo
ah, the Claymore Classic
frozen olive
heavy swing is the worst moveset known to humanity
glossy delta
Admittedly I like big chunky horizontal heavies because it's good for clearing a bunch of little shits, but it's absolutely just a taste thing
frozen olive
reminds me i need to go do the study hall
glossy delta
Curved greatswords my beloved,
frozen olive
Admittedly I like big chunky horizontal heavies because it's good for clearing a...
see i wanna use my heavy on big guys
and having a swing for big guys fucking sucks cause you have to just be in their face
i need a light swing for small guys and a big stab for big guys
it's why when i used the great eepy i was just spamming piercing fang on everything instead of using the heavy
it's 100% a taste thing tho you're right
frozen olive
i guess Morgott is up next
i think i have done genuinely like every boss in the game previously, Radahn was one of the exceptions that i was tackling with the main game for this challenge mainly
mostly just need to clean up the DLC bosses
so i'm in a weird headspace where i like
am anxious about missing something
but also reminding myself i don't actually really need to do anything in the basegame
frozen olive
already over deeproot depths but i gotta find RichDragon FortySstax
obtuse halo
Well I got a sick relic roll
frozen olive
deeproot depths experience: falling to my death no matter what i do
obtuse halo
this does the main thing I wanted out of both Night of the Fathom and the Yellow Remembrance Relic
frozen olive
that's a good relic
obtuse halo
and phys attack up is useful too
my current scholar build is now red remembrance relic, this, and then the everdark sigil +End/Dex -Arc relic
frozen olive
kinda wanna hop on nightreign again at some point
frozen olive
ED Fulghor is so cool
this prompt is SO fucking funny
"Are you here to kill us, like the rest of the insane dogmatic zealots of the golden order"
"i want a fucking hug lady this shit sucks"
tropic stream
this prompt is SO fucking funny
Seeing Carian Knight in a non-spellsword build gives us a chuckle but you do look nice
tropic stream
I would run it on my Snake Lady invader over the serpent-god curved sword (or in...
Could you send a screenshot of her build, at your convenience?
frozen olive
Seeing Carian Knight in a non-spellsword build gives us a chuckle but you do loo...
ty
i mean i'm still a knight in service of Lunar Princess Ranni of the Royal House of Caria
gotta be dripped out
median rock
Well I got a _sick_ relic roll
oh shit that's a great roll
frozen olive
ok i now have three options for my next boss
obtuse halo
I don't carry it around directly but I can hardswap in the serpent bow for harassing people at range if I spawn at a distance
median rock
cuz the other 2 parts of fathom are mid at best and the other 2 rem. relic effects are OK at best
obtuse halo
Yeah!
frozen olive
RichDragon FortySstax, Morgott the Omen King and Mohg, Lord of Blood
obtuse halo
the HP on Fathom is nice but far from required
and flasks helping allies is only useful if you have perfect communication really
median rock
a fun exe build u should try is balancer relic + the shop relic for "boosted attack but lower damage negation for character skill"
obtuse halo
I don't really like executor that much but noted
median rock
it's super cool to have just a built in weapon that's better than like, most other non-RoB weapons u can find in a run
tropic stream
i mean i'm still a knight in service of Lunar Princess Ranni of the Royal House ...
mfw the Literal Princess of the Magic Kingdom has a knight/possible spouse who's not a spellcaster of some description /j
median rock
my current scholar build is now red remembrance relic, this, and then the everda...
ahh did u mean scholar here then?
frozen olive
i may be stupid
median rock
lmao
frozen olive
but i can hit things really hard
obtuse halo
Oops, I did mean Scholar yes
median rock
makes sense lmao
tropic stream
i may be stupid
tfw Ranni has the opposite of sapiosexuality
median rock
i play mostly rev & exe atp, i played a lot of recluse before i had good duchess magic relics but i mostly use her for a caster now
frozen olive
if i fight the Mohginator i can straight up just hop to dlc
tropic stream
Doesn't poison buildup scale with Arcane?
obtuse halo
Yeah it's for invading so I tried to keep the level relatively low
Yes but poison buildup isn't that hard
it's not like bleed where you wanna trigger it a bunch in succession
and the coil shield will oneshot poison most people anyway
frozen olive
tfw Ranni has the opposite of sapiosexuality
"You've got to be the stupidest lucarian knight to ever gain the title"
"But i did gain it"
obtuse halo
but yeah for poisoning most things, arcane scaling isn't REALLY worth it
it's a lot more relevant on bleed builds
whereas here, Heavy lets me 2h the curved sword for more strength scaling
also generally makes me less of a one trick pony
oh another funny bit of tech: if you only use it for buffs, there's no reason not to use the zero weight seals
even if you lack the stats for them
since all that does is tank the scaling, which doesn't matter for most buffs
obtuse halo
whereas here, Heavy lets me 2h the curved sword for more strength scaling
Also, a heavy weapon is greaseable whereas a poison infused weapon is not
frozen olive
gonna hop on Nightreign and see what kind of relics i was using
tropic stream
All fair points Jane
The reason we ask is we kinda wanna try and make serpentbone not
Dogshit
<XD
obtuse halo
well, same logic applies. Serpentbone doesn't have arcane scaling either
and isn't infusable, so the poison scaling is static
you're better off just stacking dex if you want to use it
tropic stream
true, true
Would it be viable as a pve dex build or would it be better off to just
Not
obtuse halo
I think it probably is
one tech you can use that I couldn't without awkwardness is putting the Poisoned Hand from the dlc in your offhand slot
which gives you a buff on poison similar to Kindred of Rot Exultation
frozen olive
ah this is a evergaol run build
obtuse halo
still works if you're 2hing another weapon and you don't even need the arc 28 for it
obtuse halo
Alternatively, you could powerstance it with another katana and poison infuse that, which kind of wastes serpentbone blade's moveset but does mean you can get a better AoW on uchigatana or whatever
like poison moth flight
obtuse halo
some of the costume choices are pretty funny for the characters they represent
Like, Revenant's Vinheim costume is goofy. Give the one primary caster who doesn't do sorcery the iconic vinheim look
(it's super cute however so I can't fault it too much)
frozen olive
i got the Friede one
obtuse halo
a bit more appropriate
frozen olive
absolutely goated relic truly
obtuse halo
lol
I've thought about it for a scholar build
Starlight Shards are in the weird "stones" category (one of the ones most worth maxing) and you can use it to fuel a Wraith Calling Bell build
frozen olive
for skins i got Abysswalker Wylder, Solaire Guardian, Sellsword Ironeye, Wraith Duchess, Catarina Raider, Friede Revenant, Emerald Herald Recluse and Sable Church Executor
obtuse halo
The only skin I've bought is Confessor for Scholar
since he's my main at this point and also I always liked Oswald
frozen olive
i don't have the DLC so i only got base game skins
i stopped playing before the DLC released
obtuse halo
I got the dlc as a gift because my friend wanted to fight dlc stuff with me, lol
frozen olive
fair
any interest in doing a run?
i kinda wanna do one now
eh i'll leave it for tomorrow i think, it's a bit late
obtuse halo
I should really eat some kind of dinner
another really solid roll I got, for Revenant this time
frozen olive
ooohhh that's pretty nice
obtuse halo
black flame being a bread and butter spell just makes that real juicy
frozen olive
yeah
median rock
skins are pretty cheap to buy w everdark sigils comparative to murk iirc
at least, the expensive ones are
you get 25 sigils for killing an everdark for the first time, and 5 on successful attempts after. the shop has the cheap skins at 5 sigils, the more expensive ones are 10 & 20. so it's a rate of like 5 sigils = 7500 murk. considering an expedition gives you like 2-3k assuming you're selling off 90% of the relic drops, everdark sigils are by far the cheaper way to get the skins
ok, doing quick math - just to buy all of the preset relics (3 for each nightfarer, plus another 9 "generic" ones, plus 8 everdark relics) is 195 sigils. if you defeat every ED boss once, you get 200. so you'll be able to buy all of the preset stuff pretty quickly in terms of 'overall progression', at least
basically, once you've done that then every 2-3 successful everdark runs is a new skin
median rock
another really solid roll I got, for Revenant this time
unironically revenant has easily the strongest individual builds out of any character, only being outstripped by specifically carian slicer + improved magic attack duchess
beast claw rev is super consistent and crazy powerful, giantsflame can be a lot more RNG to find a solid giantsflame seal (you're praying on the blue giant's seal drop, which always has giantsflame take thee) but is even stronger
median rock
any interest in doing a run?
if you're playing tmrw around the same time / a little earlier, i'm down to join. i'm pacific tz so that msg of yours was sent at 6pm my time, which is around when i play normally
tropic stream
Freyja that means it's 4 AM go to bed <XD
median rock
lmao fair enough
proven cloak
this prompt is SO fucking funny
"That's right" really sells it. Ayup starts swinging
obtuse halo
We just did dreglord again so last friend of the trio can have done it, and fuck yeah, that was clean
each friend went down once, I didn't at all and had flasks to spare (I picked them up just fine)
obtuse halo
oh, a painfully close run at ED Libra
I had my ult and if I'd popped it an instant faster it probably would have been done
charred ember
Does nightreign have a pause button? Asking as someone who doesn’t play it