yeah
#Elden Ring (DLC hype room)
languid tiger
the 1500 dps rot was pretty silly
obtuse halo
lol yes
Scarlet Aeonia is just generally fucked against bosses
their AI just does not know how to dodge it at all
frozen olive
Malenia moment
arctic geyser
I just realized I have an amazing relic for guardian
but I use it for ironeye loool
kind garden
if you don't already know, "draw enemy attention while guarding" is a weird effect in that it's phrased like it should be active whenever your guard is up, but how it actually works is that it adds aggro like you hit an enemy when they hit your guard
trim owl
wait what? jank
kind garden
yuuup
it lets you hold aggro decently as Guardian but you gotta get it first, and good luck if there's an Ironeye on your team because they're gonna grab aggro off of you in no time
I still don't know how the hatred aggro state / glowing red circle works in this game btw
beyond the obvious, which is that the boss is now glued to one specific player and nothing anyone else does will peel the boss off of them
glossy delta
I've seen that a few times and managed to intuit it was aggro but yeah, no clue what makes it pop up
kind garden
but like, I don't know how you get a boss to enter the hatred or locked-aggro state or whatever it is, and I don't know how to get it off of you if you have it or anything
vestal night
It seems to happen when they do specific moves usually
I think they just stay stuck to you for a while
glossy delta
Maybe its to indicate where long animation attacks are gonna go yeah
I know Adel makes it pop up all the time with the huge lunge grabs
kind garden
hmm
glossy delta
I know in base ER you'd sometimes have unpleasantness where you'd be with a spirit summon or co op bud and that ulcerated tree spirit that just jumped up in the air is spinning around to lunge at you with its grab
vestal night
I've noticed Margit does it when he does the long blood slash combo
kind garden
I thought I've seen it activate during miscellaneous moves but it might also be that I just didn't visually distinguish Adel's moveset well and he has an attack that just goes on and on and on
something I do know for sure though is that Ironeye pulls aggro like a machine
which is NOT what you want
vestal night
Wonder how that Less Likely To Be Targeted bonus works
obtuse halo
something I do know for sure though is that Ironeye pulls aggro like a machine
Oddly this was my experience playing bow-only in base elden ring too
kind garden
I have a theory because Less Likely to be Targeted seems to be CRAZY effective on Ironeye and useless on melee classes that hit hard
which is that hitting a boss builds up aggro with each hit, and it decays over time but the timer resets when you hit it again
obtuse halo
Summons tended to survive no problem because bosses were willing to chase me to the ends of the earth
kind garden
because if you just keep dodging backwards and sniping a boss over and over as Ironeye it'll just stay magnetized to you for all eternity
and my theory is that targeting down causes less aggro to build up per hit
because with two targeting down on Ironeye I went from getting headhunted to the boss full on ignoring me
but this is absolutely, 100% a theoretical bullshit postulation on my part based on what I've noticed playing a few classes but mostly Ironeye
Bosses ignoring the melee classes to go assassinate Ironeye is like
a recurring theme lmfao
vestal night
Fortunately Ironeye skill is just also a huge dodge lmao
trim owl
I feel like it's worst with Recluse
arctic geyser
2 times down
also got the silly passive
which increased bow damage to 300 per shot looool
obtuse halo
Tbh the talk about not wanting aggro with ironeye is baffling to me because my elden ring archery experience was very much that you wanted enemies on you - bows have no aim assist like spells and don’t lead moving targets unless you go into manual aim mode, plus a lot of enemies input read to dodge, sometimes with i-frames
So how you hit things consistently is baiting attacks and then using the amazing speed of the jumping and rolling shots to attack them in the same movement as your avoidance, punishing them during their own recovery frames when they’re standing still
kind garden
well yeah but I want my teammates to beat the shit out of the boss
and they need to be on top of the boss for that
obtuse halo
That’s fair, I suppose! Just a strange paradigm shift
glossy delta
Yeahh, the issue is that if ironeye has aggro the boss is hotfooting it towards you and your pals are running their ass off after it
obtuse halo
Ah yeah, that’s an issue if your whole party isn’t ranged
Which it’s definitely not going to be with randos and probably won’t be in general
I guess that can be dealt with by just staying close but I realize that’s probably a bit against the fantasy lol
cobalt radish
Looking to buy Elden Ring since it's on Steam sale
But I got a question, how big is the game exactly plus dlc?
sleek plover
uhhh
in my save where i tried to explore as much as i can
as well as help out some friends with bosses here and there
sleek plover
But I got a question, how big is the game exactly plus dlc?
i ending up with 164 hours of playtime
feral linden
https://youtu.be/LRYgz_K-4gE?si=Bkytr5iNFeyQMz8I this appeared on my feed i felt compelled to share it
cobalt radish
Oh no I mean file size
cobalt radish
Wait, total, with dlc?
frozen olive
i've got the game and dlc installed so i would hope so
frozen olive
unless the dlc is not installed in the same folder as the game is
then it should be correct
oh you can just see how much space the dlc takes
very generous filesize
valid pagoda
It's crazy how much is in that 15 GB
frozen olive
yup
sleek plover
Oh no I mean file size
ohhhh
i may have misunderstood
also yeah that 15 gb is very real--they were lying through their teeth telling us it was the area size of limgrave, in a good way
frozen olive
It's like 3 or 4 limgraves stacked on top of eachother
arctic geyser
Yeahh, the issue is that if ironeye has aggro the boss is hotfooting it towards ...
right now best team comp is iron eye + guardian + one more dps
you don't even need iron eye tbf
just any ranged
like if you get a jeanne eldenring recluse
she will destroy everything
dps on recluse when optimal is the highest dps there is
frozen olive
I wish i had the patience to try to learn recluse
real shadow
proven cloak
eternally mystified that its more common for people to assume parts of the map smoshed over other parts instead of the LoS just using a different scale to the main map
tbh I feel like any map theory that involves making the Cerulean Coast not a coast kinda lost the plot a little
but I will be using Enir-Illm as under the central cloud in map data as tertiary supporting data for my theories 😈
cinder jay
I found this one to be even funnier ||https://youtu.be/c0mpESK9MHw?si=d_KuOgQR36F1vXDJ||
||What I do find interesting about these kinds of videos is how they tend to sell how odd Malenia's lifesteal feels contra all other soulsborne designs. The reason she wins fights tends to come down to Lifesteal, Scarlet Rot, and bosses not dodging the Scarlet Aeonia, in that order. Fittingly the one boss I know who can consistently beat her is Maliketh, who happens to be probably the biggest glass cannon boss in the game.||
frozen olive
that's pretty fucking cool
also BBH is fucked in Nightreign
i don't know what drugs they gave them but it was too much
cinder jay
also BBH is fucked in Nightreign
Yeah, video spoilers ||Malenia only wins against them thanks to Lifesteal and some last minute cheese.||
BBH has so much stats.
Might be the soulsborne boss I've fought where I've felt their raw stats the most.
frozen olive
jfc
||BBH only lost half health to kill Starscourge||
that three player scaling goes nasty
cinder jay
As an aside, the lifesteal of Malenia continues to be a design I'm so divided over since it doesn't necessarily make the fight much harder (the fight quickly ended up being about learning how to dodge Waterfowl dance anyway and not much else), and more that it just feels off; especially on what's otherwise portrayed as a kind of Honourable Warrior.
Her second phase I understand it moreso for thematically, since that's her being desperate, but for the first one it continues to feel off for me personally.
But yeah BBH just has stats for days.
obtuse halo
TBH this is a bit of a hot take but I think Malenia's dash-stab is deadlier than waterfowl once you figure out how to approach waterfowl at all
frozen olive
also BBH is just fucking immune to stagger holy shit
cinder jay
TBH this is a bit of a hot take but I think Malenia's dash-stab is deadlier than...
The impale I'm guessing?
Or a different dash stab, been a while.
obtuse halo
No. Just her basic zooming stab attack
It comes out very suddenly, crosses a lot of distance, and since it's piercing damage there's a high risk of her killing you with oneshot counterstrike damage if she catches you in an eligible frame
cinder jay
But yeah, once you learn how to dodge Waterfowl it's something that can be done very consistently.
obtuse halo
+40% to her high base damage is deadly
vestal night
If Malenia didn't have Waterfowl, I wouldn't hate her fight
frozen olive
yeah i'm not a huge fan of Waterfowl personally
vestal night
The rest of her kit is pretty easy to dodge IMO
cinder jay
If Malenia didn't have Waterfowl, I wouldn't hate her fight
Mm, I think I just don't like super attacks.
vestal night
I'm fine with the lifesteal by itself
I'm fine with Waterfowl by itself too
But put together it just really makes me hate the fight
obtuse halo
Waterfowl is really just a knowledge check imo
cinder jay
Waterfowl is a high floor attack, where once you learn it I agree with Jane it's no longer her most dangerous thing. It's just that you are forced to learn a very specific dance for it that to me feels off.
Mayhaps controversially but I'm more a fan of ||Consort Radahn|| as a super boss, since their design is more about endless combos.
And I like my endless combos ;p.
obtuse halo
if you don't like that, it's fine, but I do think people are dramatic about how impossible it is to dodge
it's overwhelming if you don't know, and kind of trivial if you do
languid tiger
Waterfowl is a high floor attack, where once you learn it I agree with Jane it's...
waterfowl has the most fucking specific, ridiculous Stand In These Exact Pixels dodge ever
it's like
it looks and feels so unnatural?
cinder jay
it's overwhelming if you don't know, and kind of trivial if you do
I mean that's kinda why I don't like it, though I was beginning with talking about the lifesteal.
old brook
Phase 2 PCR should be pushed off a cliff into the sea
cinder jay
The issue isn't difficulty really to me as an oddity of how it ends up feeling to play against personally.
obtuse halo
Phase 2 PCR would be fine without the flashbangs
plush cliffBOT
We acknowledge that you can dodge waterfowl dance, but for us it just disrupts the flow of the fight
She's great aside from that though
obtuse halo
I get overstimmed and can't focus and get fucked up as a result
cinder jay
But part of it is also that Elden Ring was a game where I increasingly learned I'm not that into super attacks. Rellana was a good middleground for me personally
obtuse halo
Phase 1 PCR is one of my favorite fights in the series though
old brook
V-V
cinder jay
Phase 2 PCR would be fine without the flashbangs
They attack the player directly through your GPU.
obtuse halo
truly
plush cliffBOT
Rellana is so fun 😌
Orange ↩️
frozen olive
i love PCR as just like
old brook
Also just a boring interpretation of godly power
old brook
Shadow Clones and Light Beams wrow
proven cloak
Her second phase I understand it moreso for thematically, since that's her being...
I like it as a way to punish mistakes
which imo fits her incredibly skillful vibe?
but I understand why other people think it sucks hardcore
plush cliffBOT
Any boss that makes us feel like we're dancing with the boss is awesome, shoutout to Gael for also doing this
frozen olive
yeah Gael is real for that
plush cliffBOT
The final boss of nightreign also seems great for this, though we have not done them solo yet
old brook
Gael also has the arena aesthetic PCR WISHES it could attain
frozen olive
i like Gael more for like, lore and maybe the fight a bit
but i think as a super boss PCR takes it
cinder jay
which imo fits her incredibly skillful vibe?
I'll admit that fighting her didn't feel like fighting a skillful warrior in the way other such bosses have to me in the past, since Waterfowl ends up emphasizing a knowledge check over the flow of the rest of the fight.
Tune down Waterfowl, or remove it, and make everything else about her much harder, and I'd be happy.
frozen olive
mhm
cinder jay
Which admittedly is kinda what you saw with PCR for example, as that boss more leans on their combos.
frozen olive
everything is easy until she Waterfowls then it's a massive problem then it goes back to being easy
cinder jay
God this chart is so silly and I low-key love it.
old brook
All this work to be so boring
frozen olive
Vengarl of Forossa type shit
obtuse halo
It is very funny that he has Vengarl Body animations
plush cliffBOT
What the hell is a laser golem
Orange ↩️
cinder jay
Any boss that makes us feel like we're dancing with the boss is awesome, shoutou...
That's the recurring lesson for me I've realised lol, and something I do take into other designs in ttrpgs (or try to at least).
obtuse halo
Laser Golem isn't a boss per se, it's a unique Golem Guardian that can be found on a ledge overlooking Radahn's Arena
it's waiting in the place the Redmane Painting sends you to, where rain of arrows is
plush cliffBOT
The heck
obtuse halo
completely optional fight, but notably pretty dangerous and a bit of a meme for it
plush cliffBOT
We swear we have never encountered it before and we've gotten that painting reward
cinder jay
Gehrman is my own favourite rendition of it, but there are so many from Pursuer, some of the Demon's Souls bosses I suspect, Hunter fights, Gael, Sekiro as a whole (minus the dragon ;p), and so on.
frozen olive
Divine Dragon is so sick
cinder jay
It is sick, especially the first time, but also not a duel quite so I'd be remiss to not mention it as an exception.
frozen olive
yeah for sure
cinder jay
We swear we have never encountered it before and we've gotten that painting rewa...
It doesn't stick out too much until it makes its signature laser attack
plush cliffBOT
Also this vid is reminding us that BBH's moveset is honestly kind of slow, most of his attacks have delays and he usually moves by either lore walking at you or doing a delayed shoulder charge
But he is still really hard
Orange ↩️
cinder jay
Also this vid is reminding us that BBH's moveset is honestly kind of slow, most ...
Yeah, again he's such a stat stick it circles back to being funny.
real shadow
Any boss that makes us feel like we're dancing with the boss is awesome, shoutou...
Lady Maria my beloved.
plush cliffBOT
He's like if a ds1 havel tank was put into elden ring but with massively buffed his damage and hp
frozen olive
Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower was a really cool boss
plush cliffBOT
Maybe closer to ds2 with how his poise works actually
cinder jay
Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower was a really cool boss
I liked Lady Maria, though I don't know how controversial it may be that I liked her earlier phases more than her later.
frozen olive
not necessarily a difficult fight but a fun one
prolly one of my favs from Bloodborne
cinder jay
The spectacle of the final phase didn't quite work for me as much as the other stuff had.
But ye, duel fights are good.
old brook
That's why I like Orphan
frozen olive
ngl i did not care for Orphan of Kos
old brook
It's like an old God tried to craft a hunter duel
Small and fast some ranged options
Hates you Hates you Hates you
plush cliffBOT
Actually scratch that, bell bearing hunter is the build everyone uses when fighting the four kings
Just the strongest weapon you can find plus the heaviest armor in the game that you can't even roll in
Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️
languid tiger
God this chart is so silly and I low-key love it.
and it was the coolest thing a fromsoft game has ever done
old brook
/inflammatory statement
thin stratus
new fun wylder strat i am trying: 9x improved ult charge
"look just do it again"
i got ult of like 2x in every single field boss fight day 2
and 5 times on gladius
dusky harbor
Fuck You Have Another
kind garden
I’m heated
Showed up to Everdark Fulghor with a lv15 team with massive Lightning damage output and a Wending Grace and everything
And he still whipped our asses
frozen olive
maybe i'll need to do 9x ult charge on Revenant and just revive people every time they do down no matter what
get back up the work is not done
kind garden
The work is very much done my teammate in Russia can see the sun
We got him to like 1/12 HP but he’s just
frozen olive
i'm really looking forward to fighting him on sunday
kind garden
So fucking good at casually multikilling and never getting hit and firing off AoEs
frozen olive
doing it with my triple stack that i killed Everdark Adel with
kind garden
His repositioning game is unhinged
thin stratus
goddd had such an annoying adel fight
frozen olive
Average Adel situation
thin stratus
ended up on a triple ironeye team, we were doing fine, but one of us just, left, after we beat the night 2 boss!
the actual adel fight went GREAT
got him down to like 25% health
but couldnt clinch it, even playing safe
and i missed my last ult trying to get both the downed teammate ironeye AND adel, ended up just getting adel because the basterd moved
rasnfrasn
so close
frozen olive
Ironeye on Adel is good
thin stratus
my kill stand at gladius twice and bug-pair once
frozen olive
I did duo Ironeye with Duchess for Everdark Adel
frozen olive
Poison starting bow goes hard
thin stratus
yeah its so good
frozen olive
Double poison starting bow backed up with black knife duchess goes insane
Ripped that mfer to shreds
thin stratus
i ended up just albinuric bow and then every single item i had was "taking damage reduces damage taken"
frozen olive
I wanted the win on Rev but she's so dogshit against Adel
thin stratus
so i could tank like a full adel grapple and land on my feet with a sliver of health
frozen olive
99% of the sorceroes you get are fire or lightning somehow
thin stratus
yeahhhh its very annoying
frozen olive
And Adel is strong against both
thin stratus
i really wish there were relics that like
thin stratus
instead of giving you auto damage of a specific type, would make items of a specific pool much more likely to spawn
frozen olive
Mhm
thin stratus
so you could relic in an improved chance of specific schools of sorcery or incantation
thin stratus
lmao
the scaling is pretty good isnt it?
so like she can do decent damage, but then the animations are neither long range and slow OR short range and fast
thin stratus
mid range mid speed suuuucks for any of the squirrely bosses
yeah
needing to hug would be "okay" if it was like
dagger fast
frozen olive
And her attacks are pretty slow
frozen olive
She fucks against other bosses tho
Maris has never seen the like before
Fulghur gets kinda cooked if you roll lucky and get some sweet lightning
Does numbers on Caligo since it's so fucking easy to get fire incants
thin stratus
i wanna see how she can do against adel with a wraith calling bell + 2x "sorcerous rises give bonus fp"
frozen olive
Prolly pretty good
Starlight shard hours
Not ashamed to say i bought the starlight shard x3 in possession at the start of expeditions relic
kind garden
does anyone ever team up in here to fight together?
I’ll team up with ya if you want
thin stratus
I’ll team up with ya if you want
right now its 3.30 am so i gotta sleep but hell yeah ill yell in the channel tommorow
others feel free to yell if u want a teammember in voicechat ill be down if im around
kind garden
Sounds good, I’m down to clown whenever
kind garden
speaking of which, if anyone would like to join me, I need to get remembrances done for Guardian so I can get Da Good Relics
cobalt radish
so my partner and I tried out Elden Ring with seamless coop mod
and erm, things bugged out tremendously?
we teleported to the roundtable for absolutely no reason
haven't kill gordick or however you spell his name because I haven't even seen him
after we left the roundtable by dying, the worldmap is completely revealed and also we might have a whole bunch of late game crafting unlocked?
???
I dunno a thing about Elden Ring besides how soul like it is, so bear in mind I dunno if this supposed to be how it works or not
signal harness
It's not supposed to work like that
trim owl
Did you both start on fresh saves?
median rock
roundtable start + revealing the full map + unlocking crafting are all common "QOL" things for people doing replays/randomizer/other modded runs - you may want to check the config file and see if there's anything like that involved?
kind garden
STAND BEHIND ME, MY ONLINE FLOCK
kind garden
Guardian’s remembrance relics are insane
cobalt radish
no, we both got fresh start, and then we gone far away from the starting spot that we got teleported into the roundtable
I think we both gonna restart anyway since we both got different confiq setting
real shadow
mighty warren
to my understanding recluse did a lot of bad things
dusty kraken
Is there an Elden Ring wizard who hasn't?
languid tiger
thops probably
mighty warren
Yeah thops was pretty chill
thin stratus
@arctic geyser @kind garden and @ anyone else whose around rn, anyone wanna jump into voice and do a nightreign run?
proven cloak
Is there an Elden Ring wizard who *hasn't*?
honestly Lusat seems chill-ish, just hiding in a cave near his hometown and meditating
same with Azur it really depends on how much they specifically were associated with the stuff Sellen was doing with the orbs lmao
Rogier too!
cinder jay
Yeah thops was pretty chill
Thops flunked out of college, got back in, and finished his studies. Kudos to him for that.
Then he kinda died, which now that I think about it does end up feeling a bit random. Guess he either overworked him, the key somehow found him too indolent, or a passing wizard bonked him on the head out of elitism.
frozen olive
He did essentially figure out the carian royalty's trump card on his own
Thops barrier VERY EXPLICITLY states he would have gotten his own entire conspectus if anyone else from Raya Lucaria had known about it
He didn't just graduate school, his findings were worthy of an entire new field of study
arctic geyser
<@153055526358482944> <@158702940591226880> and @ anyone else whose around rn, a...
I just woke up and gotta run errands for an hour but afterwards sure if you want
thin stratus
I just woke up and gotta run errands for an hour but afterwards sure if you want
ah timezones. i gotta go help walk a dig then make dinner
so ill be a fair bit later?
arctic geyser
No worries
kind garden
I awaken as well
plush cliffBOT
From one "MiyanEatWorld" on the birdsite
thin stratus
I awaken as well
@arctic geyser down for a game in a bit?
kind garden
aye
thin stratus
hell yeah
arctic geyser
sure just let me know when
kind garden
ok
arctic geyser
okay, give me a few
thin stratus
👍 i can futz with relics lol
thin stratus
wow everdark darkdrift darkknight has darkhands
and thank you rev and lune that was greatfun, everknight is so annoying but definitely beatable
arctic geyser
Yeh
I think we got trolled for the most part
A run that d/ced into that run where ally rez targetting broke + magma wyrm not dropping loot lol
thin stratus
yeah lmao
kind garden
okay I found a Strat
kind garden
Basically what we did was run +Arcane on Ironeye to get Poison (or Rot) ticking, have a tank hold the boss down, and then a caster hammered him with Lightning incants
plush cliffBOT
...so "boosts added affinity attacks" seems to just improve all elemental damage on weapons by like 10%
We assumed it only boosted stuff like flame strike's added fire damage but apparently not
Does not seem to boost the powers of offensive spells though, not sure about buff spells
trim owl
attacks only covers weapon attacks, so swinging melee weapons and shooting bows/crossbows afaik
plush cliffBOT
Yeh
trim owl
sorceries and incantations are "cast", so they're excluded from things that affect attacks, from my understanding
plush cliffBOT
Except for "[Element] attack power up"
plush cliffBOT
The buffed Fulghor fight is fun 😌
cobalt radish
so, got through Margot last night with a team, feels pretty good, and my character slowly starts to get built
just gonna find that Jar Cannon and my knight can start shaping his final form
cobalt radish
for sure for sure
currently, I'm also using a bow whenever my team needs me to poke something, turns out being able to shoot something without spending FP is pretty useful
the misgotten shortbow to be precise because it's light, scale off str better, and I can shoot it on mobile
obtuse halo
That’s a good choice for a str character yeah
Bows are a bad primary weapon unless your brain is broken like mine but they’re wildly useful for utility
And light bows are best for actual combat use just because of the moveset
cobalt radish
the one thing really weird to me about Elden Ring is just erm
the sheer amount of different grade of stones you need to upgrade a weapon is nuts
like, Dark Soul 3 has 3 tiers of titanite shards, to up from level 1 to 10, that make sense
weapons in Elden Ring can go up to +25
and now you need 10 different grades of somber stones to upgrade things?
I feel like there' gonna be a lot of circumstances where someone misread the number of a somber stone and wonder why they can't upgrade their weapons
I just feel like this can be cut down to 5?
but, ah well
Elden Ring has been out for years at this point
light bridge
I mean, if they can't upgrade their weapon, they will look at why, will see how it says 0/1, and realize they got the wrong one
cobalt radish
yes, and if there aren't 10 grade of upgrade stones, it would happen less
light bridge
Don't see too much of an issue with it, tbh. Makes pvp slightly fairer for people who aren't fully upgraded too
light bridge
It depends on weapon upgrade levels too
You can't match with someone of your level if they have a +9 weapon but you only have a +3
Divide by 2.5 to see the equivalent in sombers
cobalt radish
ahhh
light bridge
In theory, and the word theory is making the heavy lifting here, it also avoids people getting too strong too fast. This of course fails because getting a somber weapon to +5 is absurdly easy
But once you have that somber smithing stone +5, the +6 and +7 take considerably longer unless you glitch your way through (if the jump that used to let you get it hasn't been fixed)
median rock
yeah, i'd say it's pretty easy to get to +4 (quite easy) or +5 (if you happen to find one, but they're not rare) on your first playthrough without doing much, but you'll probably be running around at +5 for a lot of the game if you are unspoiled
for smithing stones i think you're more likely to cap at like +12 ish rather than pushing to +15 or higher, mostly because while you can find smithing 5/6 you need to find more pickups for them
light bridge
Yep
So sombers being more granular means you can, in theory, avoid people with considerably stronger weapons invading you
trim owl
not that it really matters for seamless or anything
I think the expanded upgrade levels is just to reflect that Elden Ring is a longer and more expansive game than past souls titles
you're also expected to be a higher level than in past titles generally speaking, and there are higher soft caps to match
light bridge
Yeah
The only souls game I've reached such a high level is DS2, and it was partially because I was doing pvp
sleek plover
ds2 just hands you a bunch of souls regularly
cobalt radish
also, just slowly learning more and more on Elden Ring mechanic, so forgive me if I sounds like a complete newbie
there sure is a lot of interesting things you can do Elden Ring huh, like, pots
classic Fromsoft, you can immediately throw literal poop pot at people at the start of the game
light bridge
Pots are very enjoyable
real shadow
plush cliffBOT
Fulghor is so cool
arctic geyser
fulghor just reminds me of centaurmon
even has nearly identical color scheme too
plush cliffBOT
Starting to think the hardest boss in nightreign is the server
frozen olive
Lmao
dusky harbor
Fromsoft have good netcode challenge (impossible)
thin stratus
https://tenor.com/view/digimon-centarumon-centalmon-centaru-centarumo-gif-228235...
honestly its entirely possible he is a straight up reference
like i am CERTAIN sentient pest is at least based on the "weird bug in charge of the nighttime" even if its based on the actual bug, a toebiter, not the meme
thin stratus
yoooo nice
frozen olive
did not manage to aura farm
we didn't win either but it was a sick ass run
well for me at least
Everdark Fulghor is way cooler than Everdark Adel
kind garden
Giving every major boss in Nightreign a third optional super boss phase was inspired as fuck
I wonder if we’re going to get an Everdarkest Sovereign form of Heolstor
obtuse halo
Everdark Shadow badow bo badow Scarytown Mayor Sovereign
plush cliffBOT
Jane are you okay
obtuse halo
is...is there a reason I wouldn't be?
I'm just riffing off of "Everdarkest"
and also referencing an ancient penny arcade
proven cloak
honestly its entirely possible he is a straight up reference
I think theres no way Fulghor isn't also at least Old King Doran
and his grandkid
Fulghor's next in line
the stone crown, the beard-chin-armor, the little stone chains like Iudex
its all there
proven cloak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23x0wOt4HJE
wait maybe I should have watched the video first
💀
thin stratus
@kind garden took a run at reggo fulghor trying your (i think it was your not reverbs) guardian strat and oh my gawd we obliterated him, no one on my team of randoms even fell
largely i think because i got stupid lucky with drops
one of them gave my bolt of gransax
and i found a boss reward of "wraiths counterattack when you guard counter"
kind garden
nice nice
thin stratus
so i didnt even have to hit him to get damage, just guard counter the aoe and the wraiths would get him
i became a ranged character
those wraiths dont have a range
frozen olive
i got a Zweihander that had "wraiths attack when walking" or something like that as Rev
great success for the Revenant great weapon agenda
plush cliffBOT
Guardian strat? 👀
ingle(she/her) ↩️
kind garden
Guardian running aggro pull on block, block revenge, and heal on block can basically just soak a boss for the entire fight while the rest of the team just boogalizes the fuck out of the boss
Fulghor can't realize the most objectionable thing about him as a boss (jumping all over the place and reducing the team's damage uptime while spinning around to random team members and handing out giant AoEs to them) if he's glued to Harvey Birdman
this shit doesn't work so good on Caligo though
frozen olive
imo you don't need it as much on Caligo
maybe i'm biased cause my 3 stack usually is ranged focused
kind garden
I have a teammate who insists that Guardian is an inferior tank to Executor running the same gimmicks, because Executor takes no damage at all if you simply parry every hit
frozen olive
are you parrying absolutely every single hit
cause if you miss even once it's going to be a baaaaaaaad time
kind garden
and to be fair, that was the strat we managed to beat Fulghor with, she just caught the sun while I ran a deadly poison Ironeye build and our third team member cranked out +2 gravel stone seal lightning spears
frozen olive
fair
our Executor held the line really well
honestly
i fumbled entirely on the lightning
idk why but i choke the timing every single time
kind garden
it's actually really hard to hit Fulghor with charged lightning
his targeting point isn't very good and he moves around a bunch
frozen olive
our Ironeye got it once by lightning dodging
kind garden
btw
frozen olive
but yeah i fucked the timing completely 😔
kind garden
for those who aren't aware or those who only partly know the gimmick
Fulghor's weakness generally implies +30% lightning damage, but also has a special effect regarding his holy arrows spell
when he's charging that shit up, technically anything can interrupt Fulghor if you hit him hard enough, but non-lightning attacks will cause Fulghor to retaliate by hitting you with a Tranquil Walk of Peace effect and he'll stagger into using a weaker version of the spell, whereas hitting Fulghor with lightning when he's trying to cast will nullify the retaliation, break the spell animation completely, AND apply a debuff that causes damage over time and (I think?) reduces his stamina
frozen olive
you REALLY wanna hit him with the lightning
i think i just need to not charge the lightning and try to just spam it
idk if that works though
kind garden
it does
frozen olive
yeah that'll be it
kind garden
he's incredibly vulnerable to lightning during the spell casting animation
frozen olive
we did manage to see he cool moves he has
frozen olive
sadly i didn't try to aura farm with Loretta's
mostly cause he was aiming a nuclear bomb at me and we were already getting owned
really cursed run
cause we had Noklateo blessing and 2 wendings
but our ironeyes controller broke and i biffed it entirely on the lightning
kind garden
are you familiar at all with MMO raiding terminology
frozen olive
a lil bit
kind garden
do you know what a spread indicator is
frozen olive
i do not
kind garden
alright so in raiding a spread indicator means that everyone needs to get the fuck away from whoever has it
frozen olive
ic ic
kind garden
because the boss is going to drop an AoE directly on top of them, and generally if you're doing the fight correctly how this is gonna work is a tank will pick up the spread indicator and then run for the hills and everyone else runs in the opposite direction
frozen olive
mhm
kind garden
Fulghor's super arrow is a spread
frozen olive
yeah i saw a video showing how you see where it goes
kind garden
well, the other thing is
frozen olive
i wonder if Adel has one for his thunderdome
kind garden
like a bunch of really strong Nightlord attacks
frozen olive
cause i've been fucked repeatedly by getting caught in the storm
kind garden
the nightfarer who has aggro when the attack starts will gain the aggro/hatred/emnity indicator
so when you see Fulghor ascend to the heavens, you look for who has the red circle, and that guy runs away while the other two players should run after Fulghor so they can hit him when he lands
kind garden
for the player who has the red circle I think the dodge pattern is roughly like
frozen olive
it was a sick fight regardless of me getting cooked completely
kind garden
you wait for the targeting indicator to show up, like, the line that shows where Fulghor is gonna shoot
and then you just surge sprint away from that
vestal night
you can also dodge the explosion when it lands, from what I've seen
kind garden
classes that don't get lots of Endurance might just have to roll for their life tho yeah
frozen olive
i've heard you can just eat it as Guardian
kind garden
you can
frozen olive
which sounds kinda fun
kind garden
you just gotta make sure your shield is facing where the bolt lands
frozen olive
mhm
kind garden
and for god's sake, don't try to block it without Steel Guard
frozen olive
hopefully i get the chance to aura farm it again
i wanna just charge Loretta's as Rev with the aggro and just get nuked for a pittance of damage
real shadow
obtuse halo
oh no, they gave a leyndell knight meth
languid tiger
ultra instinct leyndell knight
obtuse halo
I don't like this one. It feels like it's primarily just a function of whether the knight's AI wigs out or not
real shadow
That's kind of how all of these play out.
obtuse halo
Either the knight fires yes arrows per second and staggers the boss into oblivion or it randomly freezes and gets owned
dusky harbor
The way he’s so jittery
plush cliffBOT
Apparently "Stamina Recovers with Each Successful Attack" and "Stamina Recovers with Each Successful Attack +1" stack, but they do not stack with copies of themselves
kind garden
Huh, that's fuckin' weird
arctic geyser
Guardian running aggro pull on block, block revenge, and heal on block can basic...
Also this works for heolster as well
- libra if you can keep him permanently berserked
kind garden
I know it works for Heolstor
that dude, for all his visual flare and cool mechanics, is kind of a super heterodox "big dude that runs at you and swings his sword a lot" boss
cobalt radish
so I'm currently in the stonekey dungeon right at the start of the game
just barely have enoug health to tank a mistake from this... mechanical chariot
obtuse halo
ah yeah that place is infamous
They actually nerfed the chariot damage by a pretty good amount, it used to be a oneshot almost no matter what
even so it's still nasty
cobalt radish
christ
signal harness
Yeah it used to basically be an instant kill for most people
Really tedious places to figure out haha
real shadow
I think you can still tank through it via certain weapon skills.
kind garden
generally speaking this is a come back and do it later type of dungeon
thin stratus
godddd such an annoying run just now
it was going great, adel, ironeye and duchess both had poison weapons
i was running guardian with a golden greataxe
fed everyone extra items and gave each of them a stack of poison grease
i had a wending grace
got em both up multiple times during the adel fight, including both at once on my own, adel was down to last 1/5th health
then we all got knocked, my animation for wending grace started and they fukin leave
CMOONNNNNNNN
trim owl
The Wending Grace is bugged in multiplayer, it just gives your teammates a loss screen when it revives you. So they didn't leave on purpose.
thin stratus
oh that sucks!! but thank you for letting me know 😭
i wil forgive them
and also for now when i find a wending grace i will drop it visibly so a team mate can grab it and they can see it exists lmao
frozen olive
hoping i have time today to do Everdark Fulghor with my mates
gnoster is coming tomorrow and we've not had time to beat him since one of my friends threw his controller at the wall when his r1 button wasn't working and i was completely incapacitated yesterday
at least we won't have to wait too long if we do miss him on account of having to beat Everdark Gnoster for next weeks rotation and then only needing to wait for Everdark Adel to cycle out again
arctic geyser
gnoster is coming tomorrow and we've not had time to beat him since one of my fr...
I mean if it's already broke, why not throw it against the ground outside instead of the wall
frozen olive
We were in the middle of a run
arctic geyser
Rip to that run 
frozen olive
We did not win
arctic geyser
Should have just dual wield and use l1 button to swing
frozen olive
He was playing Ironeye
arctic geyser
Ironeye so OP fromsoft had to nerf the r1 button
frozen olive
We would have prolly lost anyway but it did not help
I need to learn to not charge my lightning when i need to stagger Fulghor
arctic geyser
frozen olive
fucking incredible
trim owl
Wait, does your pillar always raise downed players? It never works when I try to do that.
arctic geyser
No it only does a certain amount of rez damage
trim owl
nonono, you lifted the downed players up onto your pillar, like physcially
it raised them off the ground
it doesn't do that for me when I try, it just pushes them away
maybe it's just a latency issue or something?
trim owl
hm, well good to know it's possible, if unreliable
real shadow
It sometimes worked for me, sometimes didn't, and it felt like a real crapshoot.
My off-the-cuff idea on why is either terrain mattering (angle, etc), or some positional fuckery going on with server lag causing teammate's bodies not quite being where they're supposed to be.
dusky harbor
real shadow
WHAT
dusky harbor
Bro got 40 insight, you won’t believe what happened next
dusky harbor
https://tenor.com/view/winter-lantern-elden-ring-madness-elden-ring-madness-gif-13455354173584140682
valid pagoda
New Everdark boss is really cool, I like what they did with it
arctic geyser
That new relic looking like revenant and recluse eating good
dusky harbor
Good ol ironeye nothing beats ironeye
arctic geyser
CW: Enhanced sentient pest spoilers
proven cloak
Pride Month is OVER face gay wrath
trim owl
Wrath Month? We should have a month for each of the sins
obtuse halo
gay lust month can be any month if you're not a coward
frozen olive
watching a Nightreign slander vid and this is too real 😭
i usually ult about once a match
as a Rev main
cobalt radish
hmmm so, one thing I noticed about ER is that, because of how only one stat is used to determine your stamina and weight load
and I level it up to 30 because I want to carry so much crap for any situations
my stamina bar is actually quite lengthy, more so than during my DS3 playthrough, which means, I actually can use shield for block and not need to worry about near instantly getting guard broken
obtuse halo
Honestly stam is pretty generous in ER even with no investment
vestal night
I don't think I ever got any extra stamina on my caster build, and I never really felt short
obtuse halo
The only character I've played where I often had stamina problems was Bow-Only
even with base stam you really just get enough as long as you're not doing anything super stam hungry like jump attack spam or trying to shield tank
real shadow
Stamina regen is where it's at anyway.
kind garden
obtuse halo
God please more Nightreign videos with Edgy mid-2000s Alternative Rock playing over them
it's so good
frozen olive
it's peak
obtuse halo
sublime lmao
old brook
I just realized Midra has goddamn stitching on his torso, they really wanted that dang thing to stay in there
though may be wrong and it's just Real Fucked Skin
kind garden
They cracked him open to put the frenzy spine in em
green acorn
The last 4 games I had had a person abandon within the first few minutes
I am going insane
thin stratus
nighteign boss i would like to see: mimic tear mirror match
first phase is a mirror match, second phase the mimics alternate between regular "copying you", randomising their kit, and turning into the giant steel balls
obtuse halo
I love that lmao
median rock
almost certainly. the limiter would be getting a good "spellblade" spell/aow, really. duchess is probably the best option, she's got good int/faith scaling but just doesn't have the fp to spam spells otherwise
i don't play her like ever, but i think a lot of ppl often grab a backup weapon on recluse just for trash mobs/reviving easily, but i'm not sure how viable a proper spellbalde is there
glossy delta
Duchess is straightforward int/dex, yes
vestal night
i don't play her like ever, but i think a lot of ppl often grab a backup weapon ...
Recluse mostly has practically infinite FP via ability, so you don't always need a weapon
median rock
yeah, as far as i know people do it because sometimes its just simple to hit with a stick, especially when that stick has some random modifier you want to carry around anyway
kind garden
Spellblading with Duchess is advised as long as you can get a reliable FP regain passive
frozen olive
Fp shard type shit
real shadow
Instructions unclear, Duchess now regaining FP by making out with the Recluse.
proper vortex
What exemple are they setting for the revenant
frozen olive
What exemple are they setting for the revenant
A great one
dusky harbor
Finally started Elden ring last week, I love you gravity rock and meteor staff!!!!
frozen olive
rocks fall, everyone dies
dusky harbor
Practicing PhD level caveman shit
Throwing rocks at people until they die, a time honored tradition
dusky harbor
I want to find more gravity magic spells, seems like it would make for a fun build
frozen olive
i'd say so
proven cloak
yeah it rocks
thin stratus
first tried everdark sentient pest hell YEA
i got a fireball seal on recluse
and a staff with collapsing stars and cannon of haima
so i could just keep dodging while cycling fireball/take element into the fire magic or pure fire magic cocktail
continously
frozen olive
my friend is doing a roman cavalry build in ER rn and it is actually so fucking cool
frozen olive
he just basically soloed Agheel
frozen olive
whats they running?
Smithscript Spear & Shield/Black Leather Shield, Spear of the Impaler, Bull goat helm, Freyja armor altered, messmer greaves, The Poison Flower Blooms Twice on Smithscript Spear
frozen olive
yeah
languid tiger
since it's all dlc
why would "basically soloing agheel" be impressive there lmao
unless you meant bayle
frozen olive
this is my setup, i'm going for a primeval sorcerer type thing, space based
frozen olive
Smithscript Spear & Shield/Black Leather Shield, Spear of the Impaler, Bull goat...
here's the fit btw
trim owl
wait so is he using all that gear without meeting the reqs? How many hours does it take to kill a boss like that lol
frozen olive
well he's using poison
trim owl
aren't there bosses immune to poison?
frozen olive
sure
we're hoping to meet reqs before it becomes a problem
also i can finally use sorceries yippeeeee
trim owl
oh, you made it sound like you're doing a lv 1 run
vestal night
found out today that the ruins have illusory walls covering stairs
with two of the better chests in the basement
kind garden
yeah
vestal night
and the forts apparently have a guaranteed stonesword key?
kind garden
ehh not quite but both forts and the cathedral ruins have very high odds of yielding at least one stonesword key from a specific chest that drops them
plush cliffBOT
Which chest?
kind garden
depends on the specific layout
for the Oracle and Colossus cathedrals it's in the rafters, in the Fire Monk and elementless (hole in the ground) ones it's behind the altar
old brook
Did you summon? I know some folks refuse to
mellow silo
Just had the oddest godrick fight. Man didn't even transition he just started throwing out the occasional flame attack
frozen olive
strange
median rock
if you manage to hit a stagger (including heavy stagger animations that aren't stun-staggers, like from status, i think) at the right time you can cancel his transition cutscene. has to happen as he tries to hit the arm cutoff but before it actually starts the animation IIRC, it won't always try to play the animation (and therefore cutscene) again
cobalt radish
yeah I summoned, definitely need some meatshields to draw aggro
kind garden
plush cliffBOT
This is why the ultimate of their combined forms has a lot of flailing around, it's just animus trying to revive the host body
arctic geyser
frozen olive
nice
we managed to kill the Caelid divine tower apostle before we even fought Godrick
now i'm lvl 50, time for stormveil
frozen olive
gods Caligo's theme is so fucking good
genuinely crazy how hard they cooked with it
median rock
"mother i crave rises"
plush cliffBOT
The max fp on rise mechanisms relics stack?
plush cliffBOT
Wait, is that the new sentient pest relic?
jaunty solar
Yee!
plush cliffBOT
Oooh 👀
frozen olive
love people leaving mid game
if anyone wants to fight Everdark Gnoster i'm trying it rn
managed to almost beat the first phase with a two-stack so i'm optimistic about beating the full fight
arctic geyser
kind garden
ah, okay
arctic geyser
cobalt radish
Oh this is real funny, my jar cannon knigjt build is actually working
My partner and I were fighting the Fallingstar beast, we got it down low, but it kept running away from me who is a guy with a sword that I bring out the cannon and just shoot it to death, turns out a lot of buff can indeed make this cannon do the work
I have only 15 faith to get flame grants me strength as well as some minor healing and fortification spell to protect me better, but that's all I need
cobalt radish
Oh no, just ER
I'm also wearing the jar helmet to increase my pot potency, i jist found throwing stuff to be very funny
obtuse halo
yeah jar cannon has enough raw math that you actually don't really need any stat scaling on it
the AR is through the roof without it
cobalt radish
Ahhh
median rock
amusingly, i think most-to-all of the games actually just call it "attack power" on the in-game stats screen. not sure why AR stuck, maybe just catchier than AP
real shadow
covert schooner
OOOOO I just say something really cool
Vykes armor is melted the way it is because he didn’t trust the 3 fingers
And went into their chamber with his armor on
There’s some crazy shit in this series
covert schooner
Man I’m going back over the dlc
God ansbach is the coolest motherfucker EVER
“Now, my blade.
Watch Closely”
cobalt radish
My Jar Cannon is now +9, saving up that ancient somber stone for when I get to Rabbath Cannon
it is so damn funny
kind garden
The best thing about cannons is PvP
You always should have a cannon ready in PvP just in case
plush cliffBOT
glossy delta
WHAT
vestal night
thanks Zullie
plush cliffBOT
Thankfully this is only the projectile range and not the aggro range
cinder jay
https://bsky.app/profile/zulliethewitch.bsky.social/post/3lts7w4wevs2a
Oh god
Y'know now I'm curious about what NPC has the highest encountered to killed ratio in the game, IE what enemy do people just run away from when they encounter it.
Because I wouldn't be surprised if the Crayfish was up there.
cobalt radish
true Elden Lord
trim owl
I think I've probably killed a single digit number of those damn lobsters
obtuse halo
Because I wouldn't be surprised if the Crayfish was up there.
Yeah, Crayfish and Big Crabs are extremely high up the list
they're rarely guarding something important and kind of a pain in the ass to kill
old brook
at least the Big Giant Fingercreepers have the fire weakness an' all that
Crayfish are devil's work
trim owl
I mean the big crabs are kinda annoying but not too bad, plus we had them in DS3. But it's true there isn't usually much reason to kill them
doubly true for the crayfish, ugh I'll always remember that one in the sewers
kind garden
they're the best
real shadow
cobalt radish
so, my partner and i fought Rykard, and thought he was bullshit
and then I realised erm, you are not supposed to hold to charge up the Serpent Hunter, you keep pressing the button instead
the boss health went down so fast I felt so stupid
light bridge
I mean, you can hold it too, not that it matters a lot
signal harness
I almost killed him before I discovered the serpent hunter….
I also somehow missed the grace in the cave outside his boss room so I thought he had the shittiest runback in Elden Ring
Apparently I saved up all of my stupidity for that fight
frail sky
Playing elden ring on steam deck, did yall know this game can go above 25 fps? We certainly didn’t
ember isle
frail sky
If only 😔
real shadow
Character? Nay, make'em a day 3 boss.
arctic geyser
Playing elden ring on steam deck, did yall know this game can go above 25 fps? W...
Can get more if you do streaming on wifi6 from your PC to steamdeck
If you mean natively then I'm sure people make some tweaks
frail sky
Oh, no we mean this is our first time playing elden ring with a good fps
plush cliffBOT
Also: the venomous fangs are so much fun, how have we never used these before
hybrid perch
How do I convince my friend to use a controller
?
This is an issue I’ve been trying to deal with for a long time
But I haven’t found a solution
frozen olive
for what reason do they need to use one
arctic geyser
If theyre complaining about using keyboard then I'd say controller or better keyboard
hybrid perch
for what reason do they need to use one
They’re struggling with very basic stuff since keyboard and all
frozen olive
ic ic
well
explain to them that the game is intended to be played with a controller and that they will probably stop struggling so much with basic shit if they use one
or just get them to invest time into acclimating to the controls
idk
plush cliffBOT
@warped quest we require your keyboard setup expertise
S̶̕͠ö̸͠m̴̾̅ë̶́͗ơ̸̊n̷͐̐ẽ̴ ↩
warped quest
you also really rely on lock on
mouse is mainly just for exploring for camera movemnt
this is the setup ive used to 100% the trilogy plus elden ring
hybrid perch
explain to them that the game is intended to be played with a controller and tha...
I’ll try to do that even more
I feel like by pestering my friend enough he’ll give in at some point
frozen olive
thing is
controllers are just more intuitive for things that are meant for them and vice versa
it condenses all the buttons and things you need into one easy space
now for a lot of games, keyboard and mouse work great
but soulsgames particularly do not benefit at all from the extra buttons or the increased aim control of a mouse imo
since you generally wanna lock on and have your buttons close together for ease of access
you're potentially using a lot of buttons at a time or in quick succession which is harder on a spread layout like a keyboard
covert schooner
Currently thinking about how
SOTE turned the hated NPC gank fight genre
Into maybe the best fight in the dlc
frozen olive
yeah
covert schooner
And one of the best in the game
frozen olive
prolly my favourite gank fight ever
covert schooner
The AC6 dialogue legit adds an insane amount
frozen olive
one of two multifights in souls games that i've ever played that i actually liked
frozen olive
The AC6 dialogue legit adds an insane amount
what peak
covert schooner
Yeah
languid tiger
The AC6 dialogue legit adds an insane amount
look, letting your blorbos aura farm before and after every fight is Just Correct in the genre
covert schooner
Me trying not to cry in the club thinking about thollier’s arc
frozen olive
Thiollier my beloved
languid tiger
thiollier goes hard
frozen olive
i still think Ansbachs dialogue in PCR goes just the little bit harder
languid tiger
ansbach's dialogue everywhere fucks
frozen olive
but the Miquella Maniacs crashout is still insanely cool
honestly i really like it as like, almost an endpoint to the dlc
low-key makes PCR feel like a bonus stage
covert schooner
Thiollier my beloved
I love him fucking calling out Leda
frozen olive
ansbach's dialogue everywhere fucks
true
covert schooner
“You don’t understand either of our gods “
frozen olive
"Lord Mohg will have his dignity" just goes too hard
but yeah Ansbach was aura farming and hype moments 100% of the time
covert schooner
Also his dying line being the e thesis statement of the game
frozen olive
honestly the character work in SOTE was so fucking goated it's ridiculous
literally found a homeless crippled guy on the side of the road half naked and ended up fighting satan with him and i'm still not over that
real shadow
frozen olive
honestly a solid like
90% of the npc's were incredibly cool and memorable
still mad funny to hear Hornsent Grandam rip Marika to shreds
covert schooner
I love hornsent the guy tbh
Bayle is meme worthy but hornsent’s VA really got that like
True, genuine hate
In his messmer lines
frozen olive
ngl i did not summon his ass for Messmer
languid tiger
ngl i did not summon his ass for Messmer
you should do a run where you do
languid tiger
it's a stellar performance
frozen olive
i'm almost certain i just killed his ass with Leda
in fact
i don't even think i got the reward for doing it
covert schooner
That mf is somber
I did not expect to love his ass as much as I do
Given that uh
Going into the dlc
All we knew was “snake hitler” so
He wasn’t off to a good start
Yknow I say that but I love pontiff Sulyvhan
So maybe I would be fond of him regardless
I still love that despite all he’s done to the hornsent on his mother’s behalf, the specimen warehouse is like….. it feels like he’s genuinely trying to preserve their legacy?
old brook
The fact that the snakes are his friends got me as well
This used to just be a Cursed Child
proven cloak
I love hornsent the guy tbh
he's so good
one of my favorite characters in Shadow and I unironically love that he's not nice to you
frozen olive
my dumbass dealing with Hornsent during the 3 day fugue me and my friend spent playing through all of SOTE on launch
going to have to do his side of the quest proper on my next go around
languid tiger
my dumbass dealing with Hornsent during the 3 day fugue me and my friend spent p...
i thought it was his weapon art that you get for killing him
the broken bhb one
frozen olive
maybe honestly
i genuinely have no idea
ok you do get a talisman
Lacerating Crossed Tree
boosts dash attacks
languid tiger
ah ic
frozen olive
it's not the drop for actually killing him
you get his weapon and armor
but if you talk to Leda after you get the Talisman
which is what i was aiming for
covert schooner
Also something about SOTE I love
In the last act, everyone just
Understands that you’re the next Elden lord
frozen olive
yeah
covert schooner
There’s no question that if you’re not stopped, you will win
Even Miquella
Who at that point is a STRAIGHT UP GOD
frozen olive
they kinda gotta put up a fight to stop you getting up there
cause otherwie they just lose
frozen olive
honestly must be mad scary
you're literally god
and the guy who just killed the last one is like
standing outside your door just like
repeatedly knocking until someone comes to open the door
covert schooner
LMAO
covert schooner
Man I’m so curious what Mohg was like before the charm
frozen olive
they're not going away and you're very expressly right next on the chopping block
covert schooner
For someone like Ansbach to be so devoted to him
covert schooner
The “become a lord for men” line raises some
FUCKING QUESTIONS
if that’s the kind of man Ansbach was
And mohg is who he threw in with
frozen olive
talked about it before and people seemed a bit skeptical about my willingness to consider that Mohg might have been the GOAT before Miq came along
but like
covert schooner
Also Mohg taking in albinaurics
frozen olive
Exhibit A:
covert schooner
Which is p based
frozen olive
this guy was your boy?
this guy was one of your elite dudes
must have been one HELL of a guy to pull someone crazy cool like that for his dynasty
covert schooner
Oh for sure
plush cliffBOT
So fun fact: apparently elden ring forces a 16:9 aspect ratio by putting up black bars on the screen above stuff that is being rendered
So if you're using a steam deck you have to put it into 1280*720 or else you will lose performance for no reason
covert schooner
honestly i imagine him as a new hire
Tbh I really liked him and volcano manor rationalizing invasion
“Idk man if we wanna stop the old order from being reinstated”
“We’re gonna have to get real comfortable with some awful shit”
frozen olive
yeah the whole recusant thing was actually really neat
"this shit is going to fucking suck and a lot of people hate us for it but someone's gotta do something about it and it's going to be us"
covert schooner
I really liked the uhh, ashes trainer in volcano who was like “oh yeah we suck”
“We’re no better than dogs”
covert schooner
"this shit is going to fucking suck and a lot of people hate us for it but someo...
I’ve mentioned it before but it’s part of why in my little head fiction my character was fuckin pissed that Rykard just
Wanted to be god
Rather than actually something new
frozen olive
that guys trying to perpetuate the fucking cycle! GET HIS ASS
covert schooner
Literally
Volcano manor and Altus was where I did a lot of character writing
Like my character being a Marais
frozen olive
my character started off as a wretch and progressed a lot towards magic and incantations as the game went
so she was kind of like, a hobo scholar
no pedigree, no proper education, no real anything
then of course when i met Ranni, that whole situation trended towards a more carian sorcerous line
and she became Cold Night Freyja as Elden Lord
which was a whole thing of embodying Ranni herself over the carian imagery
frozen olive
my SOTE character ended up doing a completely different thing
Cold Night Freyja and Flameseer Freyja
my builds for each
the builds ended up going in very different directions which i quite like
Flameseer kinda has two phases going on
which is also cool
Elden Ring my beloved
doing another run with my friend rn and i'm a sorcerer of the primordial current this time
covert schooner
My other character is a person who died in the civil war in the land of reeds and washed ashore,
She’s doing v normal
frozen olive
i've got two staves and two swords and i'm rocking it
frozen olive
My other character is a person who died in the civil war in the land of reeds an...
neat
proven cloak
The “become a lord for men” line raises some
clearly he was arguing for exactly the ending I was planning on going for anyway 
proven cloak
Also Mohg taking in albinaurics
it was so rough pre-dlc when I wanted to talk about his cult & this part esp as working into the cycles of abuse theme, and showing how marginalization can inspire some really horrible outcomes in vulnerable groups-
and you just get hit with the "Ehrm, Mohg is a diddler" comments 😔
covert schooner
Yeaaah
cobalt radish
my partner and I have defeated Mohg and thus we have access to the dlc at anytime now
finally, after beating up a boss that wrecks out shit, we can now enter the land of the shadow and get wrecked by the first enemy we encounter there repeatedly
and also erm...
Fromsoft, why
why can I loot ||blood stained|| shit from this hellhole
median rock
have fun! i will caution that it's pretty easy to "overlevel" if you hit the DLC before the rest of the base game
the DLC's specific leveling system (scadu blessings) prevents you from stomping the DLC itself, but it also gives a lot more runes than anything but the really endgame base game areas/bosses
(the weakest major boss of the DLC is roughly on par with morgott, rune wise, and the rest go up from there)
cobalt radish
yeah, we are probably finishing up the rest of the base game first unless we really need something from the dlc to screw around
plush cliffBOT
Oh fuck
glossy delta
Uhhhh
Check
Steam cloud??
plush cliffBOT
There is only one file and it is from today 🫠
So um
Guess we restart then
Found a thing that might fix it, trying now
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2622380/discussions/0/597403287691484481/
IT'S FIXED!!!!
glossy delta
Eyyyyy
frozen olive
yippeeee
me and the boys
paying respects to the GOAT
i was very integral to the fight as you can see by the first screenshot
obtuse halo
I've successfully PvP'd people to death bow-only
which is always a riot
I gave someone on this server an item from my bow-only account and got invaded right after they left, so I killed the invader lmao
frozen olive
peak
frozen olive
none of my spells worked uh
we did not win
no idea why my puppets just didn't aggro at all
i did not survive
atomic plinth
Where's your serpent hunter
frozen olive
we are 4 players so we're not using it
also
such a fucking sick duo
Gnoster is so pretty and Faurtis is actually really cool
cobalt radish
Thinking of just doing power stancing for the rest of the game, currently power stancing great swords
frozen olive
bigger sword = better