Elden Ring (DLC hype room)

[frozen olive]

nevermind lmao

the body remembers what the mind has forgotten

i can still take on Isshin

[obtuse halo]

(especially if you came in with a Bleed build lol)

[plush cliff]

Recluse, as it turns out, is very fragile

[frozen olive]

makes sense

bit embarassing dying three times to Isshin first phase like that after how much i perfected him when i played the game last, but at least i got his full fight in one go after some warming up

you know, coming back to it, i do miss the unbridled aggression of Sekiro

just running at a guy and fucking spamming the attack button

also just, being able to interrupt enemy attacks even on bosses, controlling the flow of the fight

[proven cloak]

thats been one of the most fun parts of Raider in NR

actually the mini-staggers in general in NR

[cinder jay]

I do think it goes something like Sekiro (not that I fully finished the game, stopped at around the fight and demon ;p), Radagon, and then the rest in similar orders.

Though the proper final boss in various Soulsborne games does end up feeling like it ought to be the DLC bosses.

[kind garden]

Okay guys I need y’all to keep it 💯 is Nightreign fun for Elden Ring gamers who like trying new funny builds and experimenting

[arctic geyser]

I've no idea

You might ask why?

Well you see

I haven't played Elden Ring

[kind garden]

Damn

[real shadow]

Nightreign is much more fast-paced than ER and you don't have that much time to mess with builds. Or at least not as much as you'd probably like. However, the relic system is potentially pretty robust in terms of "trying out some goofy shit" and since characters can use any weapon without stat requirement, there's more messin' about than you'd imagine...buuuut you do have to get a little lucky in getting certain weapon drops.

[cinder jay]

A relevant question I suppose is whether the game incentivises you use the weapons you find, or to try to hunt down the same kind of weapon you use every time.

[arctic geyser]

Either or for me

[real shadow]

Moreover, while you can use any weapon regardless, each character has strengths they lean into that reward a certain playstyle. Most have unique movesets for preferred weapons, for example--the Raider wants to use big weapons for big damage, Ironeye is obviously aiming for ranged weapons, Wylder does well with greatswords, etc.

[kind garden]

I mean I kind of appreciate the game going “figure it out” instead of just handing you what you want

[arctic geyser]

But also I don't have full relics setup for specific weapons yet

I would 100% be going for katanas if I had the relics for +3 to katanas

My bad

[real shadow]

Also, each class has a unique Remembrance relic and some of them may as well take up a relic slot permanently with how good they are. Especially with the Guardian, who can do his job way better with the one that draws aggro whenever he raises his shield.

[arctic geyser]

Relics for +9 katanas

[arctic geyser]

Is there one for Executor?

[real shadow]

I'm not Sekiro-brained for the Executor so you're gonna have to look that up yourself.

[arctic geyser]

[real shadow]

While character skill is active, unlocking use of cursed sword restores HP (obtained from remembrance)

Executor one.

[arctic geyser]

Ye I know that but I didnt think it was too good because it requires forcing the unlock

Unless it counts towards any parry

[glossy delta]

I honestly wouldn't say so
Every character has preset stats and you take whatever loot the game throws at you that runs on those stats
And those stats have been simplified
Arcane is only status buildup now, for example
The Dragon Communion Seal, if you get it from a drop, is a faith item because its a seal and all seals are faith
You can get a little funky with the relics but largely I'd say the appeal of Nightreign is more having novel experiences in the moment than tinkering around with 'a build'

[arctic geyser]

Cause my main issue with the cursed sword relics is during downtime when I'm not maintaining aggro it doesnt kick off

[glossy delta]

You can and sometimes do wind up with a synergistic set of equipment, but that's all decided by the dice
For example, last game I was in, I was playing Raider, the colossal weapon hyperarmor character
My relics gave me attack power on takin damage, and even more if I tank a hit with my hyperarmor active skill
And the items I got wound up providing a large amount of DR for a lengthy period upon takin damage
So I'd pop skill, tank the hit, and berserk while my DR was up
But you can't like
Rely
On getting that sort of setup

[kind garden]

Okay so it’s more like a drafting roguelike than a build science thing

[arctic geyser]

Yeh

Like uhh

Lemme see if I can show you my build

My executor build

This is all on the default starting katana

So I run to a mine, grab upgrade materials, and then just aim to grab a 2nd katana on the run for offhand

Then when I do I usually dual wield for 3-4 different status buildups

Holy, poison, bleed, and w/e is on the 2nd katana

[ember isle]

Eahlch character has pre determined stats so leveling them up automatically allocates them, with each character having a certain gimmick or focus from defending friends to magic explosions to a pilebunker

[glossy delta]

Exactly
You have 6 weapon slots and two talisman slots, and can earn perks by beating bosses
And all weapons have stat riders like 'extra fire resist' or 'improved counter attacks' that are active even wen you don't have them in hand
So you are killin bosses for bonuses, sifting through loot to find optimized riders for your playstyle, and grinding levels, all on the move

[glossy delta]

^ in response to this

[kind garden]

Alright

Goes hard tbh.

[glossy delta]

Its really fun!

[ember isle]

It's also a lot easier to pick up and run tbh since expeditions are like 30 to 40 minutes or less if you die

Very fast paced, lots of action, lots of bosses

[arctic geyser]

Unless you do the longest night 2 strat

[ember isle]

And other players are relatively competent

Which is nice

[real shadow]

It's fun until it isn't, then it feels very miserable.

[arctic geyser]

https://wccftech.com/how-to/elden-ring-nightreign-how-to-extend-day-2-almost-indefinitely-to-power-up-further-before-the-nightlord-boss-battle/

[real shadow]

Some day 1/2 bosses are awful and can just ruin your day with little you can do about it.

[proven cloak]

2nd imo

the boosted weapons are usually not that wild

[ember isle]

Yeah the rng is both good and bad in a way

[proven cloak]

to switch off the one your character is already good at

[ember isle]

Runs will feel different but they can be rough too

[proven cloak]

esp if you do things like take the more interesting relics that double down

[ember isle]

So far I fuck with it and I enjoy the variety of characters. It's probably more fun with a squad of friends too

[vestal night]

is the starting weapon as strong as a found blue/purple if you use upgrade materials?

[arctic geyser]

Yes

But be mindful they don't usually have a passive or element

So while the stat scaling is similar they might not have a specific art or element or passive

[vestal night]

good to know, means I'm just gonna have to prioritize mines more I think

[arctic geyser]

Yeh the benefit of having a build for your starting weap is it's usually pretty consistent

My starting katana is better than plenty of the weapons I find cause it's triple element

Or status or w/e (assuming I understand status/elements right )

[glossy delta]

Yea I'd only upgrade the base weapon if you have a relic that REALLY pumps it up
Like yeah if I get scarlet rot on Executor's katana and turn its skill into seppuku
Maybe I'll pump it to purple

[arctic geyser]

Yeh

Like without my build most katanas are bettwr

Minus the uhh

Bone katana

Cause wtf that thing just kinda sucks

Only poison is passable on exec

Cause his base katana has bleed

[plush cliff]

Hmm…
Is there anything stopping iron eye from just going “fuck it” and just isn’t melee dex/arcane weapons?

Slimnoid ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Moreover, while you can use any weapon regardless, each character has strengths they lean into that …

[real shadow]

Not really, no. But the Ironeye shines with Dex weapons, particularly ranged (obviously).

[glossy delta]

Ironeye can in fact be a mini executor in a pinch yes
And having a curved greatsword in the pocket is probably wise

[real shadow]

Yeah, if you find a decent or even good dex melee weapon, take it.

[plush cliff]

Additional observation: Recluse is not good at reviving people. Or maybe it was just the spells we had

Huh, I think Ironeye’s mark does a burst of damage after you deal enough damage to a target

[vestal night]

yeah I've noticed this too

[plush cliff]

Annoyingly hard to see, but 376 damage with a radahn bow r2 without mark and 831 with mark

So about ~455 at level 10 maybe?

[glossy delta]

Oh yeah- if you look at the mark icon, see when it 'bursts' and widens up considerably (and then disappears)?
The mark 'pops' for percent HP damage after enough damage is received

The mark popping also forces a small stagger

[plush cliff]

816 with mark after 7 shots of the normal bow with mark, 401 after 6 with mark
425 after 7 shots with mark, 364 after 6 shots without mark

Ooh, interesting 👀

Namoeleon (ping me about D&D 4e) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) The mark popping also forces a small stagger

[glossy delta]

And hot tip is that reapplying the mark actually resets the progress towards a pop
That's why the relics that extend mark duration are actually good- you can set it, and have longer to work towards the pop before it wears off and you need to reapply

[plush cliff]

Oh unrelated question

Does doing all of the remembrance quests before doing the final boss do anything special?

[languid tiger]

is it not just a percentage modifier?

[plush cliff]

It probably is tbh

[languid tiger]

i'd have assumed that the ~120% increase was the source

[plush cliff]

But we had nothing else to go off of so 🤷‍♀️

[languid tiger]

fair

[proven cloak]

depends on which character

all quests? for everyone? no

but some characters get new scenes, or even alternate endings

[plush cliff]

👀

[proven cloak]

not too many

afaik its ||Recluse, Wylder, and Ironeye|| that get the endings

so only ||three || in total

[plush cliff]

😭

[proven cloak]

dont worry at least two of them are morally fraught!

the regular ending was very pretty, even if I'm.... not entirely sure what happened

||You dissolve or offer the Night-Lord rune to the figure, and then it produces / allows captured grace to reach the Night? And convince it to leave?||

||And the figures on the Horizon, the Night-Lord, and the giant tree-thing are all in some sense the same being?||

[chilly forum]

If anyone wants to do some matches let me know ||I have shrouded city map event ||and I need to do Wylder's last quest step and matchmaking isn't helping 😭

[proven cloak]

It feels kinda like ||The night itself was a big black hole that just sucked everything into a nothingness soup until the end, considering the Lands Between end up more-or-less the same as Elden Ring after the credits||

[vestal night]

||what the hell is Ironeye's ending? Isn't he just a merc? ||

[proven cloak]

I havent done his directly, I've been hearing it mostly from my friend

iirc he's ||one of Those Who Live in Death||

[vestal night]

...huh

[proven cloak]

might be able to hop on with a buddy, one sec

you got a password?

[chilly forum]

No I can set one up and DM if needed

[proven cloak]

kk

dm when ready and I'll pass it on

[chilly forum]

loading in lol

[glossy delta]

Getting pretty decent at this mf game

[arctic geyser]

||from the thing you get from the primordial night lord, sounds like a tribe pulled some bullshit to basically cause the calamity thing to happen so might have convinced the night lord being to do everything so by beating him and giving it to the old dude he somehow convinces it to be chill again||

[proven cloak]

well for that part, ||isn't the most likely candidate for the group of people to cause something like this - if its something even connected to the main game at all - the Nox? Who have an association with the Night, are waiting for a Night Lord, and definitely seem like the type of people to create a fucked up lifeform?||

||Theres even the way some of the night 1 + 2 bosses tie into the Nightlord thematically, and how the Aspect of Night is who gives you the Nox Priestess + Dancer combo. And has a Moonlight Greatsword, and gothic silvery armor!||

[glossy delta]

||Caligo|| beaten, only the big kahuna left
God damn what a dogshit boss that ||dragon|| is

[arctic geyser]

||I surprisingly cleared it first try lmao||

||only one I had trouble with was libra ||

[proven cloak]

I've only fought ||dragon twice, cleared it both, first try for the 5 people I was playing with + me||

its still kinda annoying imo

||libra gave my team the most trouble but I find them easier than Adel after learning the fight||

[glossy delta]

And I have now beaten ||The big kahuna||
||Maybe it was because I played Ironeye but that felt kind of wicked easy||

||I think it having two healthbars is massively in ironeyes favor||
||As your mark pops take half as much HP to pop since it's HP based||
||It was the only boss I was able to consistently break marks on||

[vestal night]

I read now that if you reapply the Mark on Ironeye before it gets broken or expires, it retains the damage progress
so it's useful for bigger bosses where you might not be able to pop it in one mark

[glossy delta]

Ooooh that is good to know

[plush cliff]

Fought ||Caligo|| for the first time, oh my gods that was the coolest looking boss fight ever
We lost but like… wow. We want to fight her again

[hybrid perch]

Guys help please, I started a new Elden ring save (haven’t finished my first game but wanted to do a different build but also liked my old one) should I go str and int so that I can go for frostbite (really like the visuals and themes) or should I go dex/str/faith for godslayer stuff?

Both seem really cool and I like both

[ember isle]

Pick one first, you get options later on to completely respec your character if you want

[hybrid perch]

That’s kinda the hard part I’m struggling with rn

Because I can get either one fully before renalla

[ember isle]

I mean you can always respec when you get there fully right?

[obtuse halo]

I mean, vig and str seems like a safe bet early either way

[ember isle]

Also to me, both sound cool but I like the dex or str and faith idea a lot, but it makes it tricky later on with the later on stuff since like leyndell

[hybrid perch]

Doing str rn

But it’s black flame

[obtuse halo]

I never really respec though so this is alien to me

[hybrid perch]

Which is fine as far as I know

[obtuse halo]

Black Flame is a very solid spell

[hybrid perch]

Even in leyndell

[obtuse halo]

To endgame

[hybrid perch]

Ye I either want to go black flame or str int for frostbite

So like any greatsword

Except maybe the one from ranni

Paired with cold infusion and stuff

[obtuse halo]

It was still one of my workhorses on my int/fth caster in Farum Azula

The ranni one is str/int scaling anyway

For str/int I liked Cold Clayman’s Harpoon with Chilling Mist a lot

[languid tiger]

cold nightrider glaive...

[obtuse halo]

The animation for chilling mist has a hitbox so you can use it as a spear-sweep

And it does a giant spike of frost buildup, enough to oneshot proc it on lots of enemies

[hybrid perch]

Ye

That’s why I’m not sure

Both are strong

Both are cool

Both look awesome

And both have weapons I like

[old brook]

Chilling Mist Dual Rapier carried hard

[obtuse halo]

Frozen needle being locked to impaling thrust hurts my soul there

[old brook]

My trick to not being disappointed was to not know that thing existed until like months later

[obtuse halo]

Lol

[old brook]

but yeah lotta weapons have odd choices

[obtuse halo]

It’s such a cool weapon that does a cool unique thing! But you can only use its cool thing mainhand and it’s locked to a very just ok ash

[languid tiger]

i wish that more of the wacky funtimes unique weapons didn't have locked ashes

they loosened up some with SotE

but i'd love for from to like

turn back around, go "hmm, let's do an update"

and then just drop a fuckton of stuff like that (and a couple hybrid catalysts) and a dlc2

[obtuse halo]

You can at least combo frozen needle with a buckler or something and not feel like you’re wasting space I guess

[languid tiger]

come on...another one eldellion dollars

[obtuse halo]

Or a torch to reset frostbite, lmao.

I love frozen needle for not just being a statstick though. The fact that you can use the thrusting sword feints to shoot rules

[languid tiger]

ye

[hybrid perch]

No clue at this point what I want, BUT this would be my first str/dex focused build

Either way

Like str/int or str/dex/faith

[obtuse halo]

At any rate for godslayer’s note that you probably want to stop at 14 or 20 str depending on whether you plan on 2hing the sword or not

It’s mostly a dex/faith weapon

[proven cloak]

goofiest looking weapon in the entire game

its so absurd

[old brook]

Not a single part of it seems bladed, dex weapon despite being as wieldly as a marble column, good stuff

Weapon Art is goddamn chaotic since the ol' buff though

[hybrid perch]

Im going black flame :)

[plush cliff]

https://bsky.app/profile/kasanashiameari.bsky.social/post/3lqtu3p2xds2t

カサナシアメアリ (@kasanashiameari.bsky.social)

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[proven cloak]

the skeleton appears....

[plush cliff]

Huh, apparently our bios has a setting to make things more performance focused. Wonder if that would help nightreign run better

Or maybe the pc will just explode, one or the other

[cinder jay]

Push the red button!

[plush cliff]

Well when you say it like that

https://tenor.com/view/cayde6-press-the-red-button-destiny2-cdrb001-gif-15316207

[plush cliff]

(Who’s the artist?)

[chilly forum]

Sadly I didn’t get a name

It was in Facebook

[cinder jay]

Cute

[plush cliff]

This appears to be the source
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/1l39tea/humbled_by_the_first_boss/

For future reference, artists need to be sourced- why did that proxy as Rose

[cinder jay]

It is indeed

Artist is Sau-Siege

[glossy delta]

Tricephalos seemed wicked easy to me 😭
Maybe we just got lucky

[plush cliff]

They’re the starter boss so them being easier makes sense

[real shadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaiC0doOclE

[proven cloak]

finally opened the artbook today, heres Rev's concept

some people here might like it

[frozen olive]

excellent

[plush cliff]

That would be so cool as an alternate skin 🥺

[chilly forum]

show WYLDER JOHN Night rain

sadly match making isn't doing well for me today so its probably good for me to take a break until larger stablization update this weekend.

[plush cliff]

We've found a relic that lets us play bonk Revenant

Slimnoid ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gsbm9fBboAARiUT?format=jpg&name=large 📎

We have also realized that we have no idea how to play guardian

Either that or the class just isn't fun for us

[real shadow]

My first few runs were as the Guardian and there's a bit to be desired with it. Large HP and an amazing ult doesn't make up for the fact that there's no innate aggro function for a class that kiiiiiiiiiiinda needs it.

Two ways to make the Guardian work though is:

1. The relic that draws aggro when holding up a shield
2. Weapons that do poison/rot/frost/whatever; anything that has status and inflicts DOT since each tick draws aggro

I'd say 3. have a team that coordinates well but that's just a given regardless of class.

[plush cliff]

Also the shield focus seems like a liability, a lot of attacks just bypass shields entirely

[real shadow]

A fair few, yeah. Most grab attacks. Like anything it's a "know when to do this" gameplan which is admittedly harder with Nightreign given how difficult it can be to face the same boss again.

[glossy delta]

I believe the special guard stance does help with some of that, though not grabs yes

The zeitgeist with Guardian seems to be leveraging his charged guard counters for poise breaking

[plush cliff]

He has charged guard counters? 👀

[real shadow]

Yup!

[glossy delta]

With halberds specifically, part of his unique character moveset

[plush cliff]

Okay, that seems good

[glossy delta]

You can charge halberd guard counters just like a normal R2

[charred crane]

https://youtube.com/shorts/tk8U5h0GlPc?si=2H4d6WW3o_G63tIj

It's every time. Rule one is don't talk about how tanky you are. The game is always listening

[obtuse halo]

To be fair, the Revenant never cared how tanky you are

[charred crane]

My honest gripe about Guardian is much in line with Slimnoids. I got lucky on relics and had the aggro from the start of playing him. But the relics that modified his skill are what I'm really after. Specifically the one that gives a damage boost for as long as it's active. That then coupled with a relic that prolongs the whirlwind and makes it recharge faster is game changing

[obtuse halo]

Hundred Hand Slap has always been pure fucking death

[charred crane]

Damage boost to you and allies*

It's great for camp clear because you can just put jobbers in air jail and stomp them all at once. But without the damage boost against bosses you might as well forget you have it

I think it needs to do slightly more poise damage

Maybe thats in a relic I've not gotten or have over looked

Anyway the Bird is fun. Clutching with the Ult is among the raddest dopest shit I've ever done in one of these games

[plush cliff]

The ult leaves you invulnerable as long as you’re holding down the buttons right?

[vestal night]

it makes your allies invincible, don't know if it applies to you too

[plush cliff]

It makes your allies invincible!?

[vestal night]

if you hold the ult, yeah

as long as you hold it and they are inside the area

it also always successfully revives I believe?

[plush cliff]

Does it have a time limit?

[vestal night]

Probably, i don't know how long though

[real shadow]

Huh, I guess there's a relic that can give the Guardian's ult a healing ability too?

[plush cliff]

Yep

[real shadow]

Damn that's pretty baller.

[glossy delta]

(Big boy plot spoilers, me trying to piece together what I know after beating the final boss but not 100%ing the game)
I'm starting to think that the Night ||is some sort of stable time loop situation||
Though I haven't done all of the remembrances yet, so I expect to find more stuff that throws what I'm reading out of whack
||Suspecting strongly that Wylder is an alternate timeline version of Heolstor, and that the Primordial Night Lord's Rune is something his 'massacred tribe' made to prevent the Night which got their asses killed by Marika||
||Because in doing so/as part of doing so, they learned about Destined Death's separation from the elden ring, as the PNL rune has a strong resemblance too it and was part of a plot to 'cheat a god' by a 'cutting-gifted tribe' that revealed 'the sin of the Erdtree'||
||Anyhow, this caused him to fall to despair and call the Night into being with the rune, as described in Heolstor's relic||
There's definitely SOME ||time travel involved, as the post-Heolstor cutscene shows the root giant shaped like Heolstor departing from the Lands Between, while the night progressing is indicated by phantoms of that same giant approaching on the horizon- he leaves one timeline as he's banished, and arrives in another Night in another world||

[charred crane]

And yourself, the time limit is for as long as you channel your "Aura Farming Pose" but during it I've tanked all kinds of crazy stuff. You can still get grabbed during it tho. So keep your eyes on Adel if you're using it against him.

[proven cloak]

the most notable thing about the ||PNL Rune is that its described as something like a Great Rune||

||which implicitly says that it isn't one||

||Given the tribe maybe-being Numen or Nox related, and the sin of the Erdtree maybe being in this case the mass human sacrifice that helped bring it about, I wonder if its not a 'Mimic Rune'||

[glossy delta]

||Yeeee, I figured it was something the tribe conjured up with power they took from the Elden Ring and/or the rune of destined death||
||Not an original component of the ring but an artifact of power derived from it||

[proven cloak]

I wouldn't ||say its like Destined Death specifically though, its much closer to Marika's Rune / The Crucible Shape||

mhm

||Heolstor's odd because he seems to have like three origins||

||The Night of the Lord seems to describe something like the Shattering, the Recluse's quest has her 'gnawling' that she birthed in the deep woods with cursed magic, and then its got some weird Nox connections / seems to be older? The 'Primordial' Night, and the weird prison-like seals on its first phase?||

and then ||theres the way it is ambigiously also all the other Nightlords, like they're aspects of it||

[glossy delta]

||Elden Ring base game does have a Lord Of Night mentioned often in Nox lore||

[kind garden]

I can talk about the lore of the Night in basegame/dlc Elden Ring

[proven cloak]

the Nox in base game confuse me

I feel like I dont have a strong grasp on their motivations or general thrust at all, can't really get a solid narrative out of them

They like the stars, except when they try to kill them and get merc'd in turn.
They distrust the fingers, but their priestesses wear hats based on them and the swordhands of Night are covered in fingerprints.
They work with Ranni, except when they actually kill her friends (and she steals the fingerslayer blade from them)
They want the Night - is that the Night like the Swordhands of Night, a Lightless Dark, or the Night like the Sword of Night and Flame, a torrent of starlight?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

what the hell does Eternal Darkness' text mean when it says it's

brought about its ruin made manifest.```

I feel like they were pretty sus with the mind control drugs though

and its a very fromsoft story if they kinda brought their own ruin about? but idk

Is Eternal Darkness about them finding no readily available divine will, and falling to despair because of it? Is it about Astel literally stealing their sky and putting them in da dark?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I suppose overall they seem like they want to control fate

[kind garden]

alright I gotchu

the Nox come from the slaves who were raised in darkness by the Hornsent in the Lands of Shadow

Their motivation is relatively clear in that they do not fuck w/ the Hornsent OR the people of the Erdtree, they distrust all gods and want to bring about a Lord of Night, who will use the Fingerslayer Blade to destroy the Fingers, and to create a signpost of stars, a Black Moon, that allows them to assert control over fate and stars in lieu of the Greater Will

Eternal Darkness isn't about finding no readily available divine will, it's that they saw that the will that dwells in the absolute darkness of night IS the Greater Will, which hails from the lightless void between the stars, and their ruin was in their attempt to usurp the Greater Will's dominance over stars and night they drew its attention, and in vengeance it set Astel upon them

Basically, their Night is like the lightless dark of the Greater Will's origin, but they wish to control the stars themselves instead of the Greater Will doing it

Night is symbolic of those who would commune with the stars (which are visible at night), the Astrologers and sorcerers; the Carian royal family, who were originally astrologers whose neighbors were the giants, are symbolized by a moon as well because unlike the Nox, the Carian agenda (that of Ranni) is to bring about an Elden Lord, not a Lord of Night, but to elevate their Order to the heavens and bring about a different kind of undivine Order that would still have gods, but gods that remain at a distance from the world on their 10,000 year journey through the heavens

basically a lot of the political factions in Elden Ring's worlds are people who have Opinions about Gods and what they should be doing on Earth (or if they should be on Earth at all) and the backstabbing between Ranni and the Nox's Black Knife Assassins is brought on by what amounts to Elden Ring world leftist infighting

Ranni got the Black Knives on-side because she said she would totally shank Godwyn the Golden and bring about the end of the Erdtree's power, which she very much intended to do, but then they caught on to the fact that she wasn't going to get rid of the Elden Ring and tell the Greater Will to fuck off, she was just going to steal the throne and run away with throne, Ring, consort, and godhead

and they (understandably) went "hey what the fuck"

[languid tiger]

...and also marika is ambiguously but imo plausibly backing ranni

[kind garden]

Maybe. It’s not fully clear.

But yeah Ranni’s approach to winning the game of thrones is “declare yourself queen, marry a king, gather all the imperial regalia into a sack and then run as fast and as far away as possible”

In the belief that if you do this good enough everyone just has to quit the whole royalty business

[languid tiger]

gather the imperial regalia into a sack and then jump into the Infinite Pit Of Infinite Darkness

and so no one has access to the imperial regalia to go "i've got the crown, i have the Divine Right Of Kings"

[kind garden]

Not infinite, she’s coming back in 10,000 years to check on the Lands Between and see if they’re getting on alright with no kings or queens or shit

In short, she’s doing what the Black Knives want but also keeping the crown and throne for herself ‘cuz she kinda suspects that if they get broken, some knob will just put them back together and declare himself king, and the Black Knives went “well that’s not on you said you’d get rid of it”

[proven cloak]

I'm just not entirely sure the Greater Will is around to even tell to fuck off anymore

the banishing of the Nox is basically the most direct thing its ever credited with in the text, right. Its standout, and its hard to tell if its even being given agency directly there or the Astel (as its child) is being treated as acting on its behalf.

The fingers at least seem to be mostly grasping in the dark

[proven cloak]

I think she was in the sense that she doesn't want to be God anymore

cut content has Radagon pretty explicitly backing Miquella, for what its worth

before Loretta got her current character, her type of knights was a gift from Radagon to Miquella to help him in getting the Elden Ring

[proven cloak]

but yeah this is a read I can roundaboutly get behind

especially when you have the Nightlord ||physically carving a wound into the current of the flow of stars in its bossfight, to bring about its night.||

||I mean the metaphor is that its cutting off the flow of things to force its own vision of the night, right? Especially when the cuts an eye, idk. The vibe I get is almost solipsistic.||

||It would rather look towards the empty battlefield and itself than to the skies, and its nightclouds cover the world and prevent anyone else from looking to the skies either, while it draws the world into itself.||

Honestly the Nox aren't particularly different from the Hornsent with this read

Mortal actors seeking to control the cycles of life and fate, often through lots of bloody, bloody murder

[hybrid perch]

I hope there’s gonna be tutorials on how to recreate the nightrein characters in Elden ring

[charred crane]

Sentient Pests are officially my BIG FAVORITE

[proven cloak]

my favorite track in the OST

I managed to help get another friend through all 8 Nightlords last night

at the end we had a 5 run winstreak 😌

shoutout Noklateo's secret 🙏 its a real one

[arctic geyser]

Oh hey

Anyone figure out how to parry uhh

All the breath attacks yet?

I can parry like 75% of em but then I get hit

[real shadow]

https://xbsky.app/profile/kabewski.bsky.social/post/3lqwz2iqpuk2j ah they do have a bsky

[cinder jay]

Poor child

[arctic geyser]

It's ok they'll rez

[plush cliff]

They can't res when dead

Unrelated, Guardian remembrance:
||Raider is lovely 😌 ||
||Also they really did call the "flying begone" weapon Ictarus huh||

[arctic geyser]

Skill issue, simply parry the death mechanic /s

[charred crane]

It's a little on the nose

[proven cloak]

on the nose names? in a fromsoft game?

I wouldn't believe it

[charred crane]

Lol

I do really like Guardians journey it's pretty cute.

Guardian spoilers
|| G: "ALLOWING A THREAT TO THE FLOCK TO CONTINUE LIVING ISN'T AN OPTION"

Boob Witch: "I'm responsible for the decimation of your people."

G: "... well that wasn't very nice."||

No jokes their dynamic is good and I'm happy it plays out that way

Had a question about getting two bosses in one night. I've had the Crucible knight/hippo combo before. But last night I had Ancient Dragon into Dragonkin Soldier. I was with randoms and have no idea what the cause was?

[plush cliff]

||Did the guardian just fucking kill that merchant||

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Unrelated, Guardian remembrance:
||Raider is lovely 😌 ||
||Also they really did call the "flying be||… 📎

[charred crane]

Ye

[plush cliff]

Damn

[trim owl]

afaik that's just how those fights are. Like those are specific pairs, just like the demi human queen with the swordsman or the 3 mounted dudes

[arctic geyser]

I hate the knight commander

But tbf Idk how to parry his AOE

[proven cloak]

I think its just random if you get

the extra boss

theres a pop up about how "the Night grants us no respite" or whatever when it triggers

[charred crane]

Gooootcha

[proven cloak]

its an event, like the random night horde spawns, afaik

[charred crane]

We no diffed him which was awesome, that was my first Adel W

[proven cloak]

honestly I tend to like the double boss

extra runes if the runs good

and no time limit to worry about, they refill your flasks between the two

Crucible Knight + Hippo is different because thats collectively 'one encounter'

[plush cliff]

||Is that what we’re calling her now||

Barclay ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) I do really like Guardians journey it's pretty cute.

Guardian spoilers
|| G: "ALLOWING A THREAT T||…

[charred crane]

Which I also got last night, first run at Sentient Pests, ||Augur kidnapped us and sent us to the bubble dimension||

[proven cloak]

one time I had that happen with ||the bubble 90% in the rain||

||thank GOD I had some ranged characters with me I was nearly useless that fight. and somehow we won the run||

[trim owl]

I've only got the dragon once so far and I have no idea how I'm supposed to beat it

I heard you have to hit its head somehow?

[proven cloak]

ancient dragon?

[trim owl]

yeah

[proven cloak]

its just tanky

head probably works but I just slam into its feet anyway tbh

[trim owl]

it kept running outside the circle, which didn't help

[proven cloak]

the lightning is dangerous

[charred crane]

You're right that was uncouth my bad

[trim owl]

(I was solo bc matchmaking is borked atm)

[proven cloak]

I think its one of the harder night 2 bosses in the game

[charred crane]

Especially to solo

[proven cloak]

(Callback boss) ||Dancer can be worse||, just because they do an insane amount of multiple-elemental damage, but they aren't too tanky

its just messing up against them can go bad really quickly

[plush cliff]

Also, we are learning how to actually play Guardian and it’s fun 😌
How to actually play guardian involves never using your skill

[charred crane]

*until you get mods for it

It's nuts for camp clear

[plush cliff]

Oh? 👀

[charred crane]

The whirlwind pulses and drags people into a small area so you can weapon art or big aoe stomp

[plush cliff]

We see

[proven cloak]

its pretty good for bringing downed people up again, too

esp if you get the longer lasting mod

[charred crane]

Or at least stopping there timer

[proven cloak]

lets the guardian shield back up and still keep ticking, yeah

[charred crane]

Also two handing shields

[plush cliff]

Hm?

[charred crane]

Why is it so much damage, it insane how much better he is with shield instead of halberds

[plush cliff]

Wait what

[trim owl]

holding a shield in two hands

you'll get more stability that way

bonking with shields has been a meme build since DS2 lol

[charred crane]

Maybe it's just because halberd options leave me wanting

But holy moly you stance break whoever you want with a good shield in your hands and charged power attacks

[plush cliff]

Stance breaking? In our elden ring nightreign?

[proven cloak]

its like

actually viable in NR

it ups the Guard Boost by a lot

our Guardian was hitting 160+ pretty quickly, pretty consistently

[plush cliff]

…actually let us test something

[frozen olive]

gamers, my friend bought me nightreign so i guess it is time for me to play it

Revenant, here i come

[trim owl]

I'll probably give it a try when I play Guardian

I've only played Wylder so far

[plush cliff]

You can guard counter and riposte with shields

[trim owl]

not that I've played that much, mind you

[proven cloak]

I cant believe they gave Ironeye bow ripostes

its so funny every time

[trim owl]

now they just need to give casting tools ripostes and backstabs lol

[charred crane]

Oh ya class specific move sets go nuts! Guardian sheild jitsus are very funny

Also that aura farming shit wylder does grappling into flaming blade auto tracking over head is absolute peak

Well thats more a mod for that skill than unique move set

But still it's peem

[steel scroll]

https://www.tumblr.com/kabewski/785612716443320320/where-could-she-be

[plush cliff]

Is it just us or does bell bearing hunter seem a bit overtuned right now

[frozen olive]

ok ngl i tried out Recluse, she seems really fun

though it feels like you would want to like

spam her ability

to get fp back on every hit and build the uh, cocktail

[arctic geyser]

Red floating swords guy is def one of the tougher high level field bosses

He's caused more party wipes for people Ive played with than anyone else

[plush cliff]

The fun part is that if your allies get hit by elemental attacks you can get fp from them too

Freyja of the Nightless Night ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) spam her ability

And it refills a lot of fp so you don’t need to use it too often

[charred crane]

It's not just you he's ruthless

[frozen olive]

ooooh

sick

[frozen olive]

me when i fucking get you Elemer of the Briar

i asume your fp increases with levels or items

so you can cast more stuff

[plush cliff]

Also different elements can make different molotovs, have fun memorizing them all

Yep!

Freyja of the Nightless Night ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) i asume your fp increases with levels or items

[frozen olive]

neat

[charred crane]

I think he gets big bullied by magic btw

But he stays on the avoid list. Rn he's alone there tho, I'm actually running back what I said about the bears if you can guarantee knockdownz the bears are manageable

[plush cliff]

Makes sense, though when he spawns in the castle it’s harder to abuse that

Barclay ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) I think he gets big bullied by magic btw

[proven cloak]

I liked this one someone made

[charred crane]

Lol holy moly

[proven cloak]

the visuals help me

[glossy delta]

I haven't had a ton of trouble with the BBH but also I've mostly fought him as Executor and Raider, who are probably the best fit for beating him down face to face

[plush cliff]

Definitely yeah

[glossy delta]

If my melee go-too was wylder or something I could see it being chancier
Cuz he does do A LOT of damage
It's just fairly predictable damage

[proven cloak]

afaik the Warming Stone also gives a DD health cut to enemies

its more like +% max hp for allies, -% max hp for enemies

and the non-lightning breath heals if you hit allies

[glossy delta]

Oh that reminds me-
Is it some relic that's making evergaol bosses sometimes have 50% HP
It sure seems to happen a lot but I've yet to get that effect on any relic I've found, maybe I'm unlucky

[proven cloak]

nah I just think they're easier sometimes

maybe depending on day?

[glossy delta]

Oh no I mean
Half their bar is greyed out like a destined death effect
Not just them being wimpy

[proven cloak]

yeah

its not a relic effect for sure

[charred crane]

Gotta get that relic that gives me a key at the start

Both of my best runs where we were facing down the nightlord at level 13-14 were when we had a guaranteed key

Seem super useful

[plush cliff]

||You’re part of the flock now so you can live||

Barclay ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) I do really like Guardians journey it's pretty cute.

Guardian spoilers
|| G: "ALLOWING A THREAT T||…

[charred crane]

Ya 😌

They all seem to get along to a degree but I love that everyone is fond of the Bird for the most part

[cinder jay]

Wait a second...

I see you Gravity Blast.

[ember isle]

I'm happy that hes both a bird and has an indian accent/played by an indian

[old brook]

Oh that sure is Invokering ain't it

[ember isle]

and hes a supportive tank

[vestal night]

it's so much easier to clear the castle when you get the knights

[cinder jay]

The general idea is, even if it's not the first time this has been executed, but whereas most of the spells are distinct it is very funny how Deafening/Gravity Blast occupy the same space in the triangle.

[old brook]

Flaming Skull on the same side, too, clearly there are only so many ways for magic to manifest

[proven cloak]

and the unlimited power of the sun

3x fire is Flame of the Fell God

[old brook]

Now they just need to give 'em a style with 60 spells like Classic Invoker

[charred crane]

Ya it suits him so well!

I love my big bird friend

I'm more successful with wylder but sometimes we suffer for the ones we love

[trim owl]

The funniest thing to me is Ironeye having an American accent (more or less)

[ember isle]

Tank support is one of my favorite playstyles in coop games so he's up my alley

[cinder jay]

Think it was only around 27 or so? Either way it's an example to my knowledge of how sometimes overly complex designs can lead to simple gameplay in practice, since by virtue of 27 spells being impossible to balance you could focus on the actual good ones and get away with ignoring the rest.

But that's dota and not Nightreign.

[charred crane]

I'm deeply infatuated with the play style and health pool. And his Aura Farming Ultimate ability is just icing.

[ember isle]

Also recluse is a fav of mine too

[charred crane]

I should try her, I played duchess first time last night she's cool I just feel completely lost on how to build out her kit

I'm stuck, unsure of who to pick up as my third. It's a toss up between any of the proper casters or one of the status effect goobers

[old brook]

Are y'all soloing mostly?

[charred crane]

If I'm playing a character I haven't played or taking a stab at new bosses

I'm not in the business of subjecting randoms to my buffoonery

[trim owl]

I was only able to solo when I was playing the other day

[charred crane]

Maintenance?

[trim owl]

just couldn't find matches

[charred crane]

Oh brutal

[trim owl]

might have been since I only got it recently and no one is playing the earlier bosses or something

I know that apparently the queues for remembrences are brutal so I didn't even try for those

[charred crane]

Oh absolutely

I've solo'd mine so far

[proven cloak]

thats just how (remembrance spoilers) ||Undead people talk in ER|| #lorefact

||Godwyn had a thick creole accent and it just wasnt relevant to the Tarnished's journey so it didn't come up||

[proven cloak]

oh yeah I forgor to do this

[frozen olive]

jump into first game of nightreign
both teammates afk at the start

[proven cloak]

my fav concepts are definitely

the Night Tree vibe ones

[frozen olive]

are these bots or something

[proven cloak]

passed away in the 30 minute queuetime, rip

[frozen olive]

i feel like i've just been trolled

[charred crane]

It's been getting worse tbh

My Raider was afk all of night one and we still won anyway because me and my duchess were on our jobs

[frozen olive]

also how does Soulblood song work

what is a blood sigil

[ember isle]

I haven't had afk folks yet but only had competent players so far

Are you playing recluse?

[frozen olive]

yes

[charred crane]

Is that the recluse ability?

Ah

[frozen olive]

it's her ultimate art

[ember isle]

Ok so her ult marks all targets

[frozen olive]

i tried using it and nothing happened

[old brook]

this is why I asked about solo, trusting the whims of internet fate seems woeful

[ember isle]

And when you hit them with spells or attacks, you get health and fp back

It's also net positive if you use a spell

It also can revive downed players with at least one segment

[frozen olive]

it says it marks all nearby targets with blood sigils

[ember isle]

Yup

You get health and mana back from hitting them with spells or attacks while marked

[frozen olive]

i assume it doesn't work on bosses since i tried it and unless i was using the wrong inputs entirely it didn't trigger

[ember isle]

It works on bosses

It's not like a alignment or bleed build up, it's just a way for you to regen stuff

It does a bit of damage too on the actual ability use

It's also not a map wide, just the area around you so you have to be around medium range i think for it to mark them with a sigil

It's honestly really good on big bosses because it gives you a way to get mana and health back when you run out of flasks inevitably

Stockpiling starlight shards is also a good idea to keep things rolling

[chilly forum]

YEAHHHH MY MAN

[charred crane]

I have only had positive experiences with randoms

[proven cloak]

uhhhh it shares at least a good part of its design with the Elden Ring, I guess?

its probably runic blood magic

[ember isle]

I explained it earlier up above

It's the recluse ultimate ability

[charred crane]

The only time I was solo queue and having a bad time was entirely my fault because I couldn't lock in and was just throwing like a punk

[proven cloak]

ohhhh I was giving a lore explanation not a gameplay one mb

[frozen olive]

ok i see what it does now

neat

[proven cloak]

I'm being sillay

its a good support tool

[frozen olive]

yeah just tried for my first expedition and the two players i matched with were afk for the beginning and then acted like bots after

[proven cloak]

lets me bonk 👍 thank you recluse

[frozen olive]

if those were real players i genuinely have no fucking idea what they were doing

the other recluse just ran at a golem boss and died instantly

[charred crane]

Still figuring things out I imagine

[frozen olive]

so did the raider

[charred crane]

Lol

[frozen olive]

they both rushed the boss without doing anything, died, one of them left, then i just quit out the lobby

[charred crane]

Well it's a good time for you to familiarize yourself with pinging the map, thats the one problem I run into in randoms sometimes they're scared to take charge

[frozen olive]

gonna try one more game and see if we can do something

me, Slop Eater and Neppy

[plush cliff]

Might be useful

[frozen olive]

ok these people seem to have skins on so they at least are unlikely to be bots or afk

[charred crane]

I have faith. This is the run no doubt

[frozen olive]

we're going to kill the nightlord in one go

trust

it's gonna be a generational run

[charred crane]

I sometimes haunt the first available boss lobbies because I like to help out the new folks

Also it's just super familiar to me now and sometimes you just need a W

[proven cloak]

(I like that all the passives are the characters faces and a lil' star)

[arctic geyser]

I'll play with you if you're okay with a bad john sekiro

[ember isle]

I'm also down to play with anyone

[charred crane]

Ya I should stop solo queuing with randoms. I have no reason to be doing this

[frozen olive]

got funny flames of frenzy while walking and rain of stars while walking

time for dog

ngl i got carried but that was fun

[charred crane]

Yippee

[proven cloak]

slop: eaten

[frozen olive]

i figured out that lingering attacks are really good for regenerating fp

[real shadow]

Stiiiiiiiiiiill in a dreeeaaaam
SLOP EATERRRRRR

[frozen olive]

i had one of the fucking like

crystal shooting ones

and i just popped it and raked in the fp

lmao

Priestess

really didn't have any fight left in you huh

should i pass time?

[charred crane]

Up to you. It changes up the map

[frozen olive]

i guess i'll give it a go

how do you see what changes?

[charred crane]

Did you get a shifting Earth pop up?

[frozen olive]

said shifting earth settled?

[ember isle]

Shifting earth is so cool

I have to beat the first boss still

[charred crane]

Oh fuck! That's right, passing time makes shifting Earth events go away

[frozen olive]

oh...

[charred crane]

My bad

[frozen olive]

welp

[ember isle]

If you play the game enough, the shifting earth comes back

Its not gone forever

Though I think its one of the coolest features in the game tbh

[frozen olive]

i got a chalice for Recluse also

[charred crane]

Yeah those are your relic loadouts

[proven cloak]

imo you should be able to spend murk to force a shifting earth

I've collected a big stash of it and it'd be nice to have a sink thats not

just rolling for relics

[frozen olive]

all of my relics rn are pretty awful for Recluse

[charred crane]

You should have remembrances to do now

Those are a source of class specific relics that are really really good

[frozen olive]

how?

[charred crane]

East Hall up on the little platform surrounded by books there's a journal

[frozen olive]

👍

is scenic flatstone random relics?

[charred crane]

Ye

[frozen olive]

darn

got a ironeye one

[charred crane]

Woah nice

[frozen olive]

gonna have to try Ironeye at some point

gonna see if i can do the remembrance

i have no idea what i'm supposed to be doing here

the map seems to have something to say

ok so i need to kill enemies in an expedition

i guess i'll do that tommorow then

man these boss descriptions are so cool

[charred crane]

The Pests description doesn't even begin to do them justice

[frozen olive]

horrendous

i'll be sure to take a pic of my scream of terror when i see them

ngl it was very funny as Recluse to just stand back and spam spells on Gladius in the fight

also ngl

i COMPLETELY biffed it at the beginning

did my ult right as Gladius fucked off into the triple threat and missed it entirely

[charred crane]

It maybe more like

https://tenor.com/view/brittany-tomlinson-brittany-tomlinson-kombucha-woman-gif-1222175417584094023

[frozen olive]

we shall see!

i might be going for the 100% on this game ngl

idk how hard it's going to be but Elden Ring was fun to do it in so we'll see

[charred crane]

I know I'm tryin!

[frozen olive]

me when i reign all over that night

she night on my lord til i reign

i'll be winning is what i mean

generational run

Believe it

[arctic geyser]

if anyone wants to play lemme kno

however I am practicing john sekiro

[plush cliff]

https://bsky.app/profile/zulliethewitch.bsky.social/post/3lqwwqjx6ck2i

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[proven cloak]

shaking my fist at Bonfirevn for releasing the Recluse model viewing video with the horny thumbnail before the final nightlord one

show me ||Heolstor|| coward

or at least like Sentient Pest.

I can see the Nightfarers anytime, I want to see the models I can't normally because they're trying to beat my ass 😠

[plush cliff]

…huh. Apparently there is a way to redo the tutorial fight against Margit and he drops a special relic

[languid tiger]

oh? how's it done?

[plush cliff]

Apparently it’s somewhere in the visual codex?

[languid tiger]

huh

[plush cliff]

🤷‍♀️

We’re not at our pc, we’ll check in a bit

[ember isle]

The fox is dead, all it took was some competent randoms and locking the fuck in as mister bird man 😌

[plush cliff]

Visual Codex -> Guide -> Guide

We are not sure how people were expected to find this

[glossy delta]

Nightreign often has this problem I find

[plush cliff]

Ten years from now we discover nightreign actually has the entire lore book for elden ring hidden away in one of the tutorials

[obtuse halo]

You just have to input the konami code on the menu information screen at 12:00am JP time

[ember isle]

Also did the first bird remembrance and I see what this game is doing

People also weren't kidding about Revenant being short af

Chairs are taller than her lmao

[vestal night]

what's the relic you get for it?

[glossy delta]

iirc, it boosts throwing weapon damage and gives you an attack power boost on weapon swap
I've been meaning to test if that works with Executor's skill katana

Cuz ||Heolstor's relic also gives an attack boost on swap, as well as a random elemental buff, and those two would be very good on the cursed katana if so||

[arctic geyser]

||me farming gaping maw, trying to figure out why I'm being one-shot by it at lvl 13, realizing I have no damage negation ||

[arctic geyser]

Me: "I'm tired of teammates being goobers, so I guess I'll carry myself then"

I think Nightreign might make me pickup Elden Ring at some point

[steel scroll]

just dont think you can jump off anything and survive and you'll be fine

[frozen olive]

anyone wanna do the gaping maw expedition?

[arctic geyser]

Yes

[arctic geyser]

When would you want to?

[frozen olive]

in an expedition rn so when it's done i should be down

[arctic geyser]

gotcha lemme kno

[frozen olive]

time for boss

[proven cloak]

I'd be down, if you need a third

[frozen olive]

damn we lost 😔

i got absolutely shit staves that run ngl

mostly close range stuff or things that needed tons of windup

[proven cloak]

recluse is real dependent on drops from what I've heard

[frozen olive]

aaand the gem things i got are useless as well 😔

got a decent one for Wylder

need to do my personal objective too

[arctic geyser]

I missed notification

[frozen olive]

as it turns out i'm alone in the house rn and gotta take care of the dog, i should have time for more expeditions later but rn i can't guarantee i have the time sadly

[proven cloak]

np

good luck with the dog

[frozen olive]

i have returned to fight the night

anyone wanna play

[frozen olive]

managed to kill tutorial morgott

imma do some matchmaking i guess

NICE, got placidusax ruin

[arctic geyser]

gimme a sec

Okey

Let me know when

[frozen olive]

aight

we're definitely losing this run so it shouldn't be too much longer

ok i'm ready for another run

[arctic geyser]

Kk

Password?

[frozen olive]

cheese

actually Cheese153, that's less generic

nvm character limit

Sorc153 we'll do

[arctic geyser]

gotcha and which boss?

[frozen olive]

Gaping Jaw

[arctic geyser]

ok search started

[frozen olive]

i've set it to matchmaking now too

idk how this works

it does not seem to be working

[arctic geyser]

Yeh Idk how it works either

[frozen olive]

do you have the number of password players set to two?

[arctic geyser]

oh you know what

I do not one sec

[frozen olive]

try changing that and see if it works

[arctic geyser]

now it's set to two

[frozen olive]

cause we're not matchmaking as three people so it needs to be set to two

lol

are you on pc?

[arctic geyser]

yus

[frozen olive]

and the password is the same as this

just to check all of our bases

[arctic geyser]

yeh

[frozen olive]

hmm i googled it and i'm goiing to try turning off my remembrance objective real quick and see if that does anything

[ember isle]

if you're in rememberance, you can't play with other people who aren't also doing the same rememberance I'm pretty sure

[frozen olive]

💀

[ember isle]

But if you go to teh character book, you can pause a rememberance and come back to the regular game

Its like playing a flashback/forward

[frozen olive]

ok restarted matchmaking no longer in remembrance

[proven cloak]

if its on the map only one takes effect

[ember isle]

Lemme know if you guys need a third btw

[frozen olive]

i'd be down for a third

[ember isle]

lemme boot then

[frozen olive]

@arctic geyser change it to three player matchmaking

[arctic geyser]

oh someone also said to reset the matchmaking every minute if it doesn't change from 1/3

[frozen olive]

👍

we'll wait for Emmu to hop in and do it then

[arctic geyser]

kk

[ember isle]

im on

So I type out the password or?

[frozen olive]

aight, three player matchmaking, Sorc153 for password, and then Gaping Jaw as the expedition

you put the password in matchmaking settings

[ember isle]

Done

[frozen olive]

aight i commenced expedition

[ember isle]

same

[frozen olive]

oh!

2/3

[ember isle]

same

[frozen olive]

@arctic geyser you ready?

[arctic geyser]

yeh I started it

[ember isle]

Ive only done it through steam myself so this is new to me

[frozen olive]

i'm on 2/3 rn, who else?

there we go

[arctic geyser]

I had to turn off my vpn lel

[frozen olive]

ahhh

lol

[arctic geyser]

google was giving me captchas so it might have just been the proxy being flagged

[frozen olive]

ic ic

i'll take your lead

[arctic geyser]

fwiw we've had some of the worst enemy rng loool

[frozen olive]

genuinely atrocious

brought a poison axe with me for the big boss

did not get a single good staff unfortunately

[arctic geyser]

no poison katana from drops

just my base katana so glad for mine

[frozen olive]

i have poison duelist greataxe

i'm getting cooked ngl 😭

what the actual fuck are you supposed to do about that nuke move

[arctic geyser]

run back or time dodge rolls very specifically

[ember isle]

my game froze like 3 different times during the phase change nuke shit lmao

[frozen olive]

damn

that's ass

[ember isle]

I was cookin

[frozen olive]

Recluse is kind of ass and idk if it's just how i'm playing

[arctic geyser]

you can poison knock him out of it too I think but it's been fairly unreliable

[frozen olive]

but damage is just so low

[arctic geyser]

well tbf we got really unlucky cause crater is one of the worse map rolls cause it tends to spawn you south side with flask spawns on east and west sides while the erd tree location is north side

• enemy rngs

[ember isle]

On recluse I just spam the fuck out of the character art to get and toss magic and then pop blood rite off rip

But I'm also not great at teh game lol

[arctic geyser]

but also tbf I could have fought the boss better cause I didn't dodge roll at the end there and we got unlucky with the double hit

[frozen olive]

i did not get a single good staff that entire run

i was running incantations and recluse starter staff

[vestal night]

Recluse does have incant scaling almost as good as magic

[frozen olive]

my spells of choice were the bog standard lightning spell

which Adel is specifically resistant against

and flame of frenzy, which makes me a sitting duck

i tried stacking the deck a bit by getting passive health regen, making it so enemies were less likely to target me, and bringing a poison weapon

aight thanks for the run anyhow

was fun

[arctic geyser]

yeh can try again if you'd like

for crater only thing we could have done different was run into crater or do center castle day 2 instead of that last flask but we still ended up at lvl 11 anyways so wasn't that bad, sounds like we just collectively did not get good RNG at any point lel

[frozen olive]

going to do some stuff with friends for now

[ember isle]

Yeah im swapping to another game for now, but Ill hop on again later

That was fun though

[plush cliff]

We should mention that nightreign does not have crossplay, in case that was the issue

[arctic geyser]

nah I think my vpn's proxy was getting flagged cause when I was google searching it gave me a captcha

also it's defaulting to colorado so it's prob also being a bit goofy rn

that match was surprisingly network stable all things considered

the worst match I got for network connectivity was like 3 second delay

[frozen olive]

ok unlocked Revenant

didn't realize i could already do that

bye bye Recluse, i hardly knew ye

[plush cliff]

Oh hey, the best Revenant gif ever is on tenor

[arctic geyser]

Oh

[plush cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-nightreign-revenant-punrii-roll-gif-10123658834711055111

[arctic geyser]

Ah yis Revenant gremlin

[frozen olive]

got a wraith calling bell relic apparently and it's supposedly good for Revenant and recluse

not sure whips do anything for revenant but wraith calling bell is nice

[plush cliff]

No idea what the wraith calling bell does ngl

[real shadow]

https://eldenringnightreign.wiki.fextralife.com/Wraith+Calling+Bell

[frozen olive]

you get a funny little bell that does like 153 damage from the getgo for almost no fp

although

how do i regen fp as revenant

[real shadow]

Yeah, it's actually kinda nuts at 6fp

[real shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-that's-the-neat-part-you-don't-gif-14180388429135427516

[frozen olive]

you can spam 153 damage attacks at almost no cost at all

[arctic geyser]

Item passives IIRC

[frozen olive]

oh

well

that's not good

[plush cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

Freyja of the Nightless Night ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) how do i regen fp as revenant

[arctic geyser]

Or passive effects

Or just buy/pickup the blue shards

[frozen olive]

so Revenant isn't a spellcasting class

aight

[plush cliff]

Yeah with revenant you just get as many starlight shards as possible

[arctic geyser]

Like what Emmu dropped right before the boss fight

[plush cliff]

Revenant is weird

Freyja of the Nightless Night ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) so Revenant isn't a spellcasting class

[frozen olive]

i've had starlight shards on every single expedition i've done so far

[arctic geyser]

I had one from earlier but I keep 1 just cause occasionally I'll run out of FP as executor mid boss fight

[real shadow]

Basically if you're playing Revenant, coordinate with the rest of the party to store starlight shards to drop for your use.

[frozen olive]

ngl i'm not super fond of that

where do i check what stats she has

[plush cliff]

Visual codex we think?

[frozen olive]

ic ic

[cinder jay]

Yeah, her strength and Dex are indeed c

(appropriate DAD joke)

[frozen olive]

i guess i'll see how she plays

cause Recluse was super fun

[plush cliff]

(ngl we personally think Revenant could use a buff or two but we are also biased)

[frozen olive]

but i got pretty dogshit items every expedition and did no damage

so it was

not very fun to like, actually play her even if her abilities cooked

[arctic geyser]

Damage is reliant on good staffs which actually

Yeh that would actually be my fault for our run I think

Cause there's specific staff spawns I don't normally go to that I know revenant players usually swing by in the more castle-y areas

They're next to the clue page at the tower top keep thing usually

[frozen olive]

how do passive effects work btw

[proven cloak]

for Rev and Recluse I always hit the cathedrals

[frozen olive]

is it only whatever is in the off-hand that gives me the passives

[proven cloak]

passives apply always, unless theres a red hand on the passive

[arctic geyser]

If they have the hand symbol they need to be in your hand but you can two hand your other hand

[proven cloak]

and even then it just needs to be equipped, not actively held

[proven cloak]

nah

you get em all

I managed to stack 80% damage negation at full health the other day on raider

fun stuff

[frozen olive]

ok good to know

cause i had all of my good effects in my offhand and my casting implements in my main hand

[proven cloak]

having two seperate casting items isnt the worst in this one

with the changes to spellcasting they did

prob always want a fast melee weapon for if someone goes down though

[frozen olive]

i usually have a casting item and a melee weapon available

[frozen olive]

i had three last run lmao

i've had up to four at a time

[vestal night]

Hitting up the castle is pretty good in general

Lots of great loot in a small area

[real shadow]

"There's great stuff in the castle" they say

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1251763655578488872/1380674290076352582/IMG_0091.png?ex=68456562&is=684413e2&hm=fe59e59536cbb025cc109767a2a2ae2f495c7e6232cd0d54eb24da8eaa659413&

"It's not that bad" they say

[vestal night]

😔

yeah if you get the trolls it gets a bit tricky

[real shadow]

If you get the trolls you just stick to the underground boss and then gtfo because they are NOT worth it

[vestal night]

you can hit them up without being too much in LoS of each other though

[proven cloak]

I think they're the quickest unless it goes bad (it goes bad often)

[glossy delta]

Ehhhh, I find the trolls to be fine
The setup I really don't like is the banished knights just because they don't have as many boss drops
For trolls every troll does a drop, for the crucible knights the siluria's tree knights have drops, for the banished knights I think its like
The one in the overcoats??

[proven cloak]

you can rake in an absurd amount of upgrades from them but its so annoying

pretty much the same

[proven cloak]

knights has an Elder Lion too

right in the courtyard

[vestal night]

do wish they would reduce the range on the trolls though

[glossy delta]

Mhm
How many of you have learned about the rooftop boss in the main encampment btw

There's a very easy to miss door in the central room that leads to a set of stairs leading to the roof of the central building, and it has a big loot boss like the underground does

[vestal night]

oh?

[proven cloak]

central room?

[glossy delta]

You know uhhhh
The banquet room? Towards the center of the area, theres an indoor room with torches and a big table
Usually guarded by a siluria knight at both entrances on the crucible version

[proven cloak]

huh

[vestal night]

interesting

[proven cloak]

I know the room, dont think Ive seen the door

[vestal night]

I'll need to check that out next time

[glossy delta]

It's just in the corner, very easy to miss

[vestal night]

I always wondered if there was anything in there, but must have missed it

[plush cliff]

We did!

Namoeleon (ping me about D&D 4e) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Mhm
How many of you have learned about the rooftop boss in the main encampment btw

[glossy delta]

Yeeee
The main encampment feels really hard to pass up in night 2 to me but my rando groups often disagree!
I had maybe my most miserable run so far just an hour ago, the first time I actually went 'fucking randos 💀'

[proven cloak]

I like to dip into it Night 1

[vestal night]

I find it a bit too hard night 1 usually

but it's definitely something I hit up night 2

[proven cloak]

scope it out, maybe clear a crucible knight or two, see if the basement boss is Leonine / Rev (takeable) or Elemer (get the fuck OUT)

[vestal night]

oh you can get Bell Hunter in the basement?

[proven cloak]

unfortunately...

[vestal night]

I've only seen Revenant and Grafted Scion so far

[plush cliff]

Yes, he’s evil and horrible

[proven cloak]

I got a Zamor Warrior once

it seems like the rarest though

[proven cloak]

you gotta be a full squad to check it out that early for sure

[glossy delta]

They were two dudes name 'Ranni's Doormat' and 'Ranni's Tampon'
One was an ironeye who ignored a white torch with 'ranged damage %10' on it I dropped for him two times, assumedly because it was a white torch
And when we got some stonesword keys from a fort they ran to a evergaol half the map away instead of the one I pinged literally right next to the fort which I already had put my stonesword key into
And then we didn't have enough time to clear nokstaleo because of the runback from that evergaol
And then we fucking died to tricephalos because we barely had any levels and the ironeye died 3 times in a row

Truly miserable

[vestal night]

is the talisman in the chest after the basement boss guaranteed btw?

[glossy delta]

Yeeeeee

[proven cloak]

^

[arctic geyser]

yesterday I had someone do the Hate X slur where they replaced H in Hate with the starting letter of the slur and replaced the starting letter of the slur with H, I reported them so hopefully bamco can punt them

randos do be randos sometimes

[arctic geyser]

yeh castle is gr8 day 2 cause usually I can clear it but in our run we had that and the crater so I pinged the crater but we were only at 6 flasks so we opted for another flask instead

we prob would have had goofy rng luck at the castle tho

[trim owl]

Question, is there actually any relationship to difficulty and/or complexity as you go down the list of nightlords from top to bottom?

Maybe other than the dog as an exception

[arctic geyser]

yes

they either get more difficult knowledge check or mechanic check wise

exception is ||dragon and night lord meme man himself||

||but dragon is dragon diff and night lord is night lord diff||

[glossy delta]

I feel like its tough to organize but I feel like the optimal play for a run is probably going for ruins that have elements your team likes, getting smithing stones, and getting flask charges night 1, then clearing main encampment and the shifting earth night 2

[trim owl]

elements your team likes? or the one the boss is weak to?

or do you mean like going for casting tools if you have casters in the team?

also, do you think field bosses are ever worth it in that case? They seem way too tanky and kind of a waste of time

even Night 2

[glossy delta]

If you have an executor or ironeye and there's a poison/frost/etc symbol ruin, go to that one, if not then yeah elements the boss is weak to is probably wise

I think there's usually enough time in a night if you're all on the same page to take out a field boss or clear an evergaol if its on the way to where you ought to go

(There's often time to take out a LOT of evergaol bosses ime)

Arcane boosting all statuses now is honestly pretty wild
Frostbite/bleed weapons seem spooky as hell

[frozen olive]

Revenant is super fun

just need uh

more fp

really

[ember isle]

Yeah starlight is where its at

That and having a reliable like spear or something to poke people with when you're out of fp

I carry one on recluse too when I run out so I can be useful

Dualwielding staffs is pretty funny too

Im a guardian main myself, but I dabble in the others

The raider headbutt is really funny to hit

Guardian recluse are my gotos

[glossy delta]

Now that I have a better grasp of how Raider works I like him a lot yeee
I think fundamentally I am an ironeye/executor fella
Even here I am an arcane main

[ember isle]

I like shielding the little people around me

That and drawing aggro before airstriking the boss off rip

[trim owl]

Raider is really funny

my second win was with him with dual anchors

I can't get my brain around how to play Guardian properly, mostly because of the dodge

I get that you're supposed to be blocking with him

[ember isle]

its all about high poise and using guard counters

He has a special charged guard counter with halbreds too

So run halbreds, activate the heavy guard, run a draw aggro relic and keep taking hits

[charred crane]

Real martial mains buy their caster friends shards at the final merchant every time

[ember isle]

Thats what I do

I empty out every merchant I can find and ping it

[charred crane]

Oh ya you gottta ping em

[frozen olive]

any idea why the relic sell menu doesn't allow me to see any relics but red ones

oh

[charred crane]

I'm a hoarder I don't sell em

[frozen olive]

apparently you can untick them in the filter list

for some reason

[frozen olive]

i only keep the big ones

[charred crane]

Thats a good idea because the little ones don't seem worth using

[ember isle]

Im also a hoarder

[frozen olive]

bro

[ember isle]

I might one day need some white branches or some shit

[frozen olive]

stop giving me fucking ironeye relics

this is like the 4th or 5th one

[ember isle]

and ill be like that one dad who has the exact style of board needed to fix this project, since I kept it in the basement for 20 years

[charred crane]

I'm crawling back into the ER:NR chat for motivation to play later tonight. Last night I had a good time, didn't win any. Had back to back to back Revs who left me wanting after the first one.

First Rev was incredible she cooked hard as fuck. But our third dropped out and I got nothing particularly good during our run so wasn't helpful.

[frozen olive]

i've been kinda dragging things down as revenant as well unfortunately 😔

i've died first to the boss every time or been repeatedly one-shot immediately as soon as i got revived by Gladius

[charred crane]

It's ok it happens. Really I should have started taking charge after rev 2 and rev 3 were kinda lost on the map. We went nowhere fast.

Pathing is giga important. Know what you want and be fast about it.

I give a lot of praise to the randoms. But sometimes...

[frozen olive]

we got to the boss with almost no problems both times i did runs with my friends

which is cool cause it's my like fourth expedition and for them the first and second

we did pretty fucking good on both of them

got Gladius to the point where he had less than 1/3rd health left both times

would have won i think if i hadn't biffed it which feels bad

[charred crane]

Feels bad but theres always next time

I just need to try a couple other bosses

[ember isle]

Rev is definitly one of the harder/hardest nightfarers to play

[charred crane]

Their kit is so interesting

Compared to how silly wylder can be, throwing themselves directly into the bosses uber move, losing 85% of there health. Thwips away

[ember isle]

You can get a lot of distance by launching into a half charged pilebunker

[charred crane]

It's true

[proven cloak]

I find getting all churches isn't usually as helpful as an extra level

so I tend to stop after two

[charred crane]

Dodge tank Wylder is on me funny little build flow chart

[proven cloak]

smithing stones are really good if you can path the mines on the way

thats also why I tend to swing a little by the mid-castle even on day one, its often just convienent pathing

[ember isle]

If you play guardian, get the purple smithing stone from the mines and upgrade a nice great shield you find, its half of his kit

[proven cloak]

esp if you're already leapfroging spirit streams - they clear so much ground

[ember isle]

If you have crater, upgrade your shit to legendary too for the funnies

[charred crane]

Still haven't

I'm desperate to, does anyone have a good way of dealing with full grown fallingstar gamer?

[proven cloak]

I've never beaten it and gotten to the bottom of the crater

on the same run

so normally I avoid it

they are tanky