Elden Ring (DLC hype room)

[charred crane]

bummer typo in wylders journal 😬

[plush cliff]

Hm?

[proven cloak]

I noticed some rougher translation

not surprised tbh. spinoff, right?

[plush cliff]

Same tbh

[proven cloak]

I like how inhumanly ||The Nightlord|| is described, having not even met it yet

||everyone calls it an 'abomination' or an it, or just a husk of Night. Its not at all given personhood by any of the characters.||

[obtuse halo]

the name just makes me think of Nier every time, which is pretty ironic considering how deeply and honestly human that particular antagonist is

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZUbyM5PxY|| the music though 😭

[glossy delta]

First run, first win
Pretty god damn fun
It accomplished what I wanted, which was 'sit down and play A Match of Elden Ring'
Ironeye is fun!!

I also got pretty sweet starting relic set from that first run

I really spam out attacks a lot as ironeye if that run is any indication, so I think the only effect that isnt directly relevant is the first one

Also- I only realized this when I looked at the codex but
A hot tip for those with Elden Ring gameplay instincts- all weapons and shields have 100 physical block, only elemental values vary

[obtuse halo]

Oh wow

Good to know!

[glossy delta]

Have fun with those colossal weapon guard counters!

[languid tiger]

does stability still differ?

[plush cliff]

Yeh

[real shadow]

I went with Butch Deadlift.

3 hours and I got to day 2...once.

Far too many times we ran into the Bell Bearing Hunter on day 1 and basically got creamed.

[plush cliff]

The three genders

[proven cloak]

its so cool the nightlords have like. actual puzzle mechanics to their fights.

geniunely!

the ||frenzied madness one|| ||has a gimmick where it starts meditating and a bunch of spell sigils appear around it.|| ||If you dont break them in time it gains new moves + uses its older ones faster + has a crazy huge finishing blast, while also gaining a new texture on its skin to show its 'powered up.'||

thats fun

I mean its still pretty basic but a good change of pace

also it kicked the shit out of my party. twice. :V

[plush cliff]

Early doll story stuff:
||Aww, don't sell yourself short there friend! We think you look pretty neat!||

Also man, four attempts and we still haven’t gotten our second clear. The final bosses are tough

[glossy delta]

I figured out that the ||dragon|| has ||safi jivas sapphire star attack, albeit not an insta kill||
||You got to hide behind icicles to evade a global frost burst||
It also kicked our ass.

[proven cloak]

I got far enough in Wylder's story that it sounds like he wants to (spoilers) ||inherit the power(?) or at least the essence of the Nightlord himself so that|| ||he can save the Duchess' life, because otherwise she'll cease to exist when the roundtable hold crumbles on the Nightlord's death.||

he's so protag coded its unreal

||the npcs he talks to about it sound like they consider it a great sacrifice or hardship to do whatever he's planning to do, and my next step is to 'find a tear of silver in Limveld.'||

[glossy delta]

Also, I tried raider
He is weird! I am unsure of the mechanics behind his fist attack and his ult feels largely useless
He's also in this unenviable position where his special moveset overrides colossal weapons, but also greataxes and greathammers
So he speeds up colossal weapon use.... but slows down any greataxe or hammer he uses

Overall not a fan

[proven cloak]

his ult is the weakest part of his kit, imo

for the fist, it just massively increases poise while massively decreasing damage

with a big aoe stagger, and a stronger one if you hold it down to charge

pretty useful overall, its great for facetanking elemental damage attacks

the moveset's running-heavy and followup-heavy chain are also really nice, even with the smaller weapons

the second esp does massive poise damage

[glossy delta]

See, the charge just
Hasn't been working for me? I figured maybe it actually does the bigger attack if you get hit enough during it
Maybe my controller is messing up but I can hold unsheathe just fine so it's not like I can't hold down l2

[proven cloak]

I definitely noticed different speeds tapping it versus holding it down

so I dont think its damage based because I've definitely done the slower one while whiffing completely

honestly though the biggest part of his ult is an easy way to disrupt medium sized enemies while doing stuff (it knocks most nightlords back)

and more importantly, gives a damage buff to the team

its definitely lower impact than most of the cast though

I think you regen stamina during the fist move

[glossy delta]

I did get one big boy use out of it by using it on top of a three slot downed ally
Elevating us both up where I could pound him back into good health

[proven cloak]

so its useful for swinging full tilt until you're out, and then tanking the response anyway

then you can keep up the pressure or actually roll / run out

[plush cliff]

I’ve been having the same issue with the bird guy’s skill

Namoeleon (ping me about D&D 4e) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) See, the charge just
Hasn't been working for me? I figured maybe it actually does the bigger attack …

Honestly, we've been having some weird controller issues in general

Like, sometimes our lockon will just take way too much force to switch targets, and it doesn't do this on normal elden ring so it's not the controller

[proven cloak]

I think thats an actual game change- yeah

I think they changed how lock on works in this one

my squad was reporting the same

[glossy delta]

According to the settings casting a spell autolocks if you don't have a lock active when you start, so it seems like they've given it a rejiggering

[real shadow]

So, played a bunch of the Raider last night and he's the one I've so far been the most comfortable to use, so I clicked with him pretty quickly. His fist attack is there to do a bunch of stagger but importantly, if you facetank a bunch of damage while doing it it'll switch from a headbutt to an uppercut which deals a bunch of poise damage and will often stagger enemies.

This is a bit tricky to pull off but it's made easier by his passive just making you impossible to knock out of that attack, so if timed right you can punch a dude out of their attack.

His ult is jank as fuck tho, no question there. I did manage to get one of the dragon sentinels to partially clip into it and stop attacking for a bit which was funny.

[frozen olive]

can't believe Fromsoft made early 2000's amv's for Nightreign

actual peak

actual official evanescence fromsoft amv in the year 2025

[signal harness]

Heh, short

[proven cloak]

honestly I use it for the damage reduction by itself pretty often

[real shadow]

Yeah, it's a good way to no-sell something.

I wish the Guardian was...better, honestly. He should be the tank who aggros enemies but he's not very good at it like, at all.

[proven cloak]

iirc theres a relic for it

some sort of taunt

[real shadow]

Kinda stinky that it's locked behind that tho.

[proven cloak]

true

[real shadow]

I have a very dim view of "this unlockable allows you to do your class's job." It's not a good mechanic.

[charred crane]

So. ||The gaping dragon|| fight is a joke. Right? It's gotta go be the easiest fight in any run I've had so far.

Pro tip. Don't stand in goo.

[glossy delta]

It feels like guardian is mostly meant to survive
And well, going down is a big liability for your team
The skill seems great for buying breathing room in a big cluster of mooks, and the ult is obviously a game changer

[charred crane]

guardian feels great! I'm not really one for the turtle plays but survivability is showing to be really important

I picked up a relic last night that pulls aggro when blocking, immediately slapped that on the big bird

[proven cloak]

Spoiler for one of the treasures of a Shifting Earth Event, the ||Rotted Woods||:

Wow

thats a CRAZY buff

||Its like a superjuiced BB rally / malenia rune effect stapled to the increased max hp||

[frozen olive]

That's hella good

[glossy delta]

https://youtu.be/fN5PUKXIy6s?si=W_5FmF0SfJ_MEA17

The boys seconding my private thought of 'Executor is gonna be the genji of Nightreign'

[frozen olive]

Gonna make my own team as Revenant

[glossy delta]

I AM excited to see how viable solo runs are post patches
I'm fine with rando 3s but
I have learned that rn people either don't know about personal objectives or do not care

[real shadow]

https://bsky.app/profile/ofthelimbo.bsky.social/post/3lqieg2waxc2y

Limb-O (@ofthelimbo.bsky.social)

Duchess

Bluesky · May 31, 2025, 6:21 PM

[charred crane]

I've had some pretty good experiences with random so far. In fact this last one I helped the wylder do his first remembrance and then we stomped the dog.

I was playing aggro tank guardian and it works so well

That relic that lets you build aggro while guarding is so huge

[glossy delta]

I was pinging my quest marker on the map as Ironeye for an entire match and the Wylder just kept putting down his own marks
And the Duchess kept following him and not me even after I revived her multiple times 🥲

[charred crane]

Brutal

Thats curious tho I had the same comp on my last win. Duchess, Wylder, and meee the biig bird!

[glossy delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usiqXwQDrnY

Cooool stuff here
First off- I am vindicated, Raider's Big Punch IS activated by taking damage, though its not damage you take during the animation
Taking any damage builds a meter that will eventually give your body a grey steamy glow- if you do skill with it up, you get the big punch

Also, Ironeye apparently has unique R2s with bows
I don't know how I didn't discover this organically

[plush cliff]

He can also parry with them!

[glossy delta]

Oh? How?

[plush cliff]

Err… not party, riposte

[glossy delta]

Oh yeeee I did know that

[charred crane]

I really gotta run a few ironeyes

Wylder is just too much fun. I ran a solo run with him and made it to night two

Sadly got got by twin night cavalry

[frozen olive]

saw this meme on twitter lmao

[charred crane]

The first night was ||duke's dear freja||

Which I'll say it. That was annoying.

But! Really good for farming ult because of the mobs

So I just staked the poor thing over and over

[frozen olive]

pilebunker type shit

[charred crane]

Type shit 😌

And then the game wanted me to solo an ancient dragon

Can't win em all

[proven cloak]

ahhhh ok

I actually like that design more than if it was damage while punching

more flexible

[proven cloak]

Ancient Dragon and ||Deathrite Bird|| have been the consistently hardest night 2 bosses for my group. Even when we win it can be tense.

runner up prize to ||Full-Grown Fallingstar Beast||

really hoping the dlc adds more Shadow enemies though.

I want to fight ||Lion Elemental Duos or bloodfiends / curseblades or Black Knights -> Gaius||

[charred crane]

||lions|| would be sooo fun

I love that boss

And ya ||deathrite bird|| is an avoid for me rn. On my last successful run we took one on because the randoms dragged me into the fight and we just barely scrapped by I clutched with an ult.

Thats how I got theee Bolt of Granax(?)

Gooood poke weapon for Guardian because of the weapon arts range attack which is how I ended up beating the dog in the end with both randoms on the ground.

Bad scaling tho

The games good... But there's something missing

Why can't I soap stone "fort night" on the ground in the hub.

0/10 obvious money grab.

[plush cliff]

I’m realizing I suck at playing revenant
Admittedly part of that might be that she has basically no way of regaining fp so her massive amount of faith isn’t the most useful thing ever, but still. We’ve still yet to win our second game with her 😔

[charred crane]

It is curious, I wonder why we're not able to allocate flasks.

[real shadow]

I think it's to force people to rely on items.

Starlight Shards are reasonably easy to find.

[plush cliff]

Side note: how the heck do you deal with ||darkdrift knight?||

[proven cloak]

I wish I could tell you: our first run against him had our third player crash night 2 and end the run 😔

we were so stacked too

[charred crane]

That's what I was assuming, people just hold on to as many shards as they can. But I still think the option to trade out healing for damage would be nice

Which brings me to the virtue of "having more pockets"

Highly recommend

[proven cloak]

its her buttons that get me

lots of little things to press

[plush cliff]

Accidentally ult-ing is a recurring problem

[charred crane]

From my Rev main

Speaking of accidental ults. I think I'm gonna remap some stuff

[cinder jay]

Not too surprising tbh.

Cost efficient spells being the be all, end all 90% of the time is pretty par for the course for the series.

[charred crane]

No doubt

And in addition to that when I play with her, our other pc and I drop her gain fp on hit weapons if we can find any that suit her play style

I think thats a massive part of play with a clique is you can drop items for each other if you think they may be worth it. I dropped a magic damage up tali for my duchess last run and she became a damage dealing monster

[glossy delta]

Black Flame and status does kind of seem like the goat in this game

[cinder jay]

Not too surprised since it's dealing percentage based damage.

Wouldn't be surprised if the percentage hasn't been touched too much even as NPC health has been increased to compensate for the PvE aspect.

[charred crane]

Bleed still goes crazy so. Seems to be the case

[cinder jay]

Same as it ever was

[charred crane]

Flamberge was the only frickin way to kill these damn Runebears

Absolutely abominable health pools

[cinder jay]

Kinda funny how throughout soulsborne, bleed has been the primary condition with anything else being conditional (heh) typically. There are times when poison and its variants are decent, as well as more recently cold, but Bleed will always be in contention for the nr.1 spot.

[charred crane]

Rot was nutso in er

[cinder jay]

It was good, with one notable DLC fight at the top, but even then bleed is in contention for the top spot regardless of the boss pretty much.

[languid tiger]

ds2 is, as one might expect, the place where that's topsy-turvy

bleed is ass and poison is great

[cinder jay]

Being the kind of person who's been thinking a lot about status effects recently, the fact that we're not seeing Sleep or Madness be viable is by virtue of how the bosses are designed; in that there's an underlying assumption that they're going to largely unhindered by what you do other than when they're staggered.

[obtuse halo]

I was gonna say, I don't remember bleed being especially good in DS1 or 2

with poison in DS2 especially being really strong

[languid tiger]

bleed was pretty strong in ds1

it was just that there weren't very many playable bleed weapons

the status itself was goated though, especially against the assorted demons

[cinder jay]

I was misremembering one part which is that I think a fair few bosses were immune to it.

[charred crane]

Lol there is a perk you get that makes you do the madness storm spell while RP walking

[languid tiger]

lotta bosses were immune in ds1, yeah

lots were very vulnerable though

[charred crane]

I have not found it to be useful but it's very funny

[languid tiger]

it was kinda a 50/50

[cinder jay]

Mm, think my larger point is that the way bosses are approached in terms of vulnerability to status effects is Final Fantasy-like for lack of a better word. Just a fun design facet to ponder.

[charred crane]

On the current roster there is one boss that they recommend bringing madness for.

I only mention it because other elements and statuses are applicable to multiple of the hunts

Fire for example

And holy(?)

[cinder jay]

As an aside, it's funny how the blowdart snipers in DS1 have the strongest toxin in the game by far (aboth 3 times stronger than the next highest source).

It's not Gravelord Nito who's the deadliest, but some guy with a tube and a dream.

[feral linden]

Bone Papa's crypt is in a clean water cave

the blowdart people live in a literal cesspool where all the urban waste leaks down

[charred crane]

That quick poison. That actual bane of my 15 year old existence

[obtuse halo]

yeah they don't even brew any poison they just scrape it off the wall

[feral linden]

in terms of ick none of the succeeding Soulsborne swamps can top blighttown

[plush cliff]

📝 👀

Barclay ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) From my Rev main 📎

[plush cliff]

Matchmaking takes a while sometimes huh

…though maybe that’s because apparently cross region play is disabled by default. Huh.

[charred crane]

I've had a couple that seem like they've just stopped loading. So I dropped and restarted it and then it usually goes much faster for some reason

[plush cliff]

Maybe it’s because we’re trying to do the doll quest and it needs you to do a specific boss

[charred crane]

Mmm maybe, I think I was trying to do Wylders remembrance when I was having issues.

[proven cloak]

idk the cathedral of the deep is real snasty

its not a swamp but the rotted parts of Ariendel also made my skin crawl

[proven cloak]

I learned with my friend it has something to do with the Shifting Earths too

you dont get matched with people who dont have yours active(?)

[proven cloak]

and if you have a remembrance going it tries to match you to people who dont (since you can only do one per party at a time)

[charred crane]

Mmm that tracks

[glossy delta]

I haven't won a run since my first 😭
These mfers are tough
I've completed ironeyes first remembrance though, so may go for Executor now

[charred crane]

My next is guardian

[glossy delta]

The ||goat dude|| seems very deflectable

[charred crane]

I finished (?) the wylder quests

[proven cloak]

hmm it was actually ||the first nightlord my squad first-tried||

so I think its probably that our playstyles countered it - ||big melee bonkers, because he would just charge in||

||A bunch of times he tried to put that ring on us and we literally just kept getting free staggers off it||

[plush cliff]

Gods this game is fun 😌

[proven cloak]

we had the most trouble with ||Adel|| and ||Libra||

I'm like a magnet for ||large mouth grabs I can't get enough of them. Pre-fix hippo flashbacks.||

||and our perma-guardian player had trouble with the grabs (bad dodge roll) and the madness build up (stops their guarding)||

technically we have the most trouble with (DS callback boss spoilers) ||Dancer. She auto crashes one person of my group, consistently, whenever they look at her. It doesnt happen to anyone else and it happens 100% of the time shes on screen for them.||

so it goes

[real shadow]

Finally won my first run.

Almost won the second but ||Adel|| fucking sucks that was a poor choice to follow up on.

[real shadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPuo0FoAojg

[signal harness]

Normal sized sword

[charred crane]

player.setscale .5

[proven cloak]

wish us luck

🫡

[atomic plinth]

Good luck

[glossy delta]

Yoooooo

Go for it king

[proven cloak]

||we got fissure on the first try - well, the first try we actually made it and didnt crash to dancer, but it was close that one is tough||

||our rev had to lock the fuck in towards the end||

[glossy delta]

||Fissure|| seems like a nightmare
||Eeeee where's the hitbox for the breath, when do I dodgeeee||

[proven cloak]

thats the neat part

[proven cloak]

swapping to Wylder again for the final runs

its like you gotta, right

got his and raiders remembrances complete but ||raiders is self contained||, ||Wylder's involves killing the Nightlord as part of it||

[gray leaf]

I just realized something: I suspect the Lands Between do not have alcohol. (If there's an item to the contrary, let me know, but I'd be surprised.)

The Land of Shadow probably does. But not the Lands Between.

[steel scroll]

Is there a lore explanation behind why randoms ping the map and then go in a completely different direction

[cinder jay]

Yes, they're followers of the sixth finger

[charred crane]

So that first remembrance for guardian is a bit of a headache

I got lucky on the 6th try with a secondary circle that allowed for me to not have to try doing the fight inside of the tide.

Probably easier with a crew, I tried it solo. I can't recommend that.

[real shadow]

I had a surprising amount of difficulty beating the Revenant to unlock her with the Raider. Took me like 5 tries.

[charred crane]

I got her on the third, shes quick!

I didn't bother with her summons other than the little fella who is pretty easy to deal with

[real shadow]

Yeah I'd take out the little dude and try to take her out but inevitably I'd get got by her spinning roto-discs of godlike power while dodging skeleton lasers.

[charred crane]

Mmmhm, my tactic was to just stay behind her to the best of my ability, and use upward slash to punish. If you can get a full stake charge into her as well it's nuts for damage

Dear lord I love wylder so much

[real shadow]

I gotta play around with the Wylder more, but I'm having a fair amount of fun as the Raider.

Heavy bonks and trading blows is how I got through SotE so it feels right at home.

[charred crane]

That's the vibe I'm getting from Guardian. I turtled my way through pre patch Randy and Micky

[real shadow]

Yeah, I think Guardian works best once you get that rememberance thingie that actually draws aggro, but that's...y'know, having to unlock something that ought to be a core function of the class.

[light bridge]

These thingies, they are a single use only? Or they get extra uses?

[real shadow]

Raider can arguably tank as or even better than the Guardian but you have to kinda spec for it by grabbing shields and foregoing colossal weapons. Retaliate is a hell of a tanky special.

[real shadow]

It's a relic, so infinite use (basically)

[light bridge]

You get three of them by run, right?

Is there any generic lifesteal one? I know one of the chars gets a mini rune of malenia through one, but IDK if there's a simple "hit enemy, heal" one

[real shadow]

https://eldenringnightreign.wiki.fextralife.com/Relic+Effects There is (check defensive tab) but it's all randomly dropped.

[proven cloak]

he also loves DoTs and status

each tick counts towards the person who applied it for aggro, afaik

[light bridge]

Hmm, depends on weapon type

But there is, this brings joy

[proven cloak]

We beat the NL btw except my internet hiccuped right at the very end and I alone didn't get the ||ending warp trigger + clear||

suffering

I'm sure next run we'll also get 4x Epic Holy Weapons + Stacked Elden Stars on Rev

[charred crane]

Oh I did unlock something for Guardian that extends the time and effect of his primary ability!

The wind aoe now pulls people into it and pluses with pretty ok damage

Same relic gives a much faster recharge on the ult it's, night and day honestly. Do your remembrance! This is a PSA

[charred crane]

I slot him with a relic that gives poison on starting weapon so that's what I've been rocking currently, but am looking out for other options.

[nova smelt]

Wylder can fucking rocket jump

[glossy delta]

Oh my word the ||jellyfish boss|| is awful
My Raider ass is running around with a fucking greatbow 😭
I can't even imagine only having melee

I'm queing for all the bosses and I seem to wind up picking a bad character for every boss
||Ironeye vs goat dude, who doesn't care about you being far away||
||Executor vs living pests, which isn't a 1v1||
||Raider vs jellyfish, who IS ALWAYS FLYING||
I'm still feeling pretty good mind, just
Unlucky!

[thin stratus]

its a souls game still, so theres definitely a lot of learning the boss and preparing for it!
its just that now the run back is two days and nights to work on your build lol
it does look like picking up a ranged option is very useful for everyone, not just as upgrades for the characters who start with ranged options

[charred crane]

At least for rezzing ya.

And also a couple of the bosses have some slimy mechanics that you need to look out for

[proven cloak]

without stat requirements its also not a bad idea to carry around a seal / staff

even as Raider I've found dragon communion / clawmark, and they can put in work!

[proven cloak]

did you figure out ||if theres a way to avoid the mapwide sleep buildup move on Augur / Jellyfish?||

||1st run we got wiped by it (I think the boss has an auto-kill mechanic if it puts you to sleep enough times?), second we used ults and lucky resist+ boons to avoid it + beat the boss, but I'm curious if theres a gimmick we missed.||

||esp with Libra / goat dropping those anti-madness pellets, or the deathblight nightboss dropping boluses. Feels like there should be something, maybe related to those wacky hands everywhere?||

[glossy delta]

||It usually stopped when I got close to it but iunno if that was happenstance or a safe zone or me hitting it or what||

[proven cloak]

theres like ||a big screen effect of a bubble 'popping' sometimes that washed over the camera, but idk what caused it or what it did.||

ulting Nightlords to knock them out of a big move is always fun

||Instead of hitting the seals you can do it to Libra with big hits like Ironeye or Wylder's Ult||

just feels good!

[vestal night]

tried a few runs now, have yet to win one though

also, how do you unlock Duchess btw?

[charred crane]

Have you received a pocket watch yet?

[vestal night]

nope

[charred crane]

Keep hunting! Good luck

[vestal night]

is there anything specific you need to do for that, or is it just random?

[charred crane]

Get to night three

You don't have to win. You just gotta throw hands with the boss

[real shadow]

It's also sometimes a random drop even if you don't make it to day 3.

[plush cliff]

We got it on our third run which only got to night two

[charred crane]

Same

In fact my other two got theirs on the third run as well

[steel scroll]

realised there was no reason not for me to flail around two giant axes as the raider. So I did that, and killed the triple dog!!!
Damage reduction is no joke

[wild sierra]

my wife got the item on her second run by chance, I only got it when we actually beat the boss a long time later, so it's reasonably down to luck

although I think it is guaranteed on a win

[thin stratus]

blehhhhh nightreign doesnt run on my laptop

[plush cliff]

…the ||locust|| event seems to have crashed our game. Annoying

[arctic geyser]

oh is nightreign being only in this thread?

[arctic geyser]

||you need resistances or you can ult during the final ticks of sleep buildup to save yourself, when I cleared it with my friends, we cleared it via 2 people using their ults at that point and the last person just having enough sleep resistance to be able to run away enough that it never dealt damage to them||

[arctic geyser]

as a heads up the uhh

wtf nightlord was it

give me one sec, lemme remember which one it was that was causing fps drops for my friend and causing my game to freeze

gaping jaw causes frame drops/stuttering

correction

another one of my friends also had fps issues against it

[plush cliff]

Oh no

[proven horizon]

Super hype finisher to the Libra bossfight with my friends.

Executor is so much fun. Far and away my favourite character

[arctic geyser]

yeh

I like playing executor

cause every time I see the enemy turn towards me I just parry lol

[proven horizon]

Dog form is really handy, too. There's a gemstone you can get which makes the roar you can do during it heal you and all allies hit.

[arctic geyser]

yeah I haven't gotten too many good relics

mainly my kinda default is like

[proven horizon]

Status buildup is also super brutal, he has super high arcane. I was using a cold nagakiba for that run and it only took a few hits on bosses to trigger bleed and frost at the same time.

[arctic geyser]

treasure map + rune acquisition

yeh

only once have I gotten a katana that had a good weapon art

occasionally I get the grease arts but those are kinda bleh compared to just having the ones that do the status buildup with the double swipe

[proven horizon]

Grease arts are great, I'm always on the hunt for ice mist, seppuku or poison mist

[arctic geyser]

I haven't gotten seppuku once

I want it so bad 😭

[plush cliff]

Wait, do those arts count for the grease relics?

Oshlet ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Grease arts are great, I'm always on the hunt for ice mist, seppuku or poison mist

[arctic geyser]

wdym?

if you mean the ones that depend on grease usage afaik they don't

[plush cliff]

There are some relics that give you bonuses for using greased and Oshlet called- dang it

[arctic geyser]

cause those require the items

ye afaik they require the item usage

which isn't too bad cause you can stack up to like

well you can stack all 4 assuming you skip mine for 8 grease

but if you don't skip mine you need at least one slot for purp shard

but tbf they might not

[proven horizon]

Ah no they don't. I just call them grease arts because they give your weapon a buff like grease does.

[arctic geyser]

yeh

they're my 2nd favorite art

the mists are kinda eh for me but tbf I think I keep goofing on using them correctly cause Idk how to hit bosses with them properly

like uhh

||duke's freja boss I literally just fought for the first time and my friends told me I'm supposed to attack it's face ||

[proven horizon]

Mists also apply the status to your weapon so even if the boss isn't in the mist you still get extra status buildup on hit

[arctic geyser]

wait do they?

[proven horizon]

Yup

[charred crane]

king shit

[plush cliff]

Oshlet ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Ah no they don't. I just call them grease arts because they give your weapon a buff like grease does…

[arctic geyser]

has flaming strike

it doesn't coat weapon in fire

"Hmm, this feels like it should?"

reads skill codex

mfw

[proven horizon]

Flaming strike does I'm pretty sure?

[arctic geyser]

I didn't do the follow-up, ever

[proven horizon]

Oh LMAO

[languid tiger]

NEVER????

[arctic geyser]

I literally kept spitting the fire thinking that's what it did lmao

[languid tiger]

that's part of what makes it like

top 5 WAs in the game

[arctic geyser]

no wonder it felt so meh to me that run lool

[languid tiger]

god damn

[obtuse halo]

The buff arts have always been pretty good

[plush cliff]

Flaming strike is our favorite AoW in original elden ring, it’s so cool

[obtuse halo]

I used to run Chilling Mist on a Clayman’s Harpoon and it was great

[arctic geyser]

see

[proven horizon]

My favourite AoW in elden right is the flower kick from the dlc

[arctic geyser]

maybe if I actually played elden ring

[languid tiger]

it's incredibly strong and super fancy

[arctic geyser]

I would be better at neightreign

[proven horizon]

I was running a poison build through it so being able to consume the poison for massive cashout damage was awesome

[obtuse halo]

I’ve been meaning to get that on snake lady as a Poison Moth Flight alternative

[plush cliff]

We’ve never gotten around to trying it out but it seems pretty cool

Oshlet ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) My favourite AoW in elden right is the flower kick from the dlc

[proven horizon]

Fellow snake lady player 🤝

[obtuse halo]

Tricky to do that without jumping up a ton of pvp tiers though

[arctic geyser]

It's funny too cause all my friends played elden ring and I haven't

so they'll just saw random terms and I'm like "wtf does that mean, does that mean I need to backstab?"

[proven horizon]

I had the snake shield, the snake fists, serpentbone blade and serpent god's curved sword

And the snake bow

[obtuse halo]

Yeah, coil shield and serpent-god curved sword here

[proven horizon]

coil shield rocks, I used it a ton in pvp

[obtuse halo]

I have access to the others but don’t really use them

Coil Shield does rock

People have trouble dodging it and it frequently oneshot procs deadly poison

[proven horizon]

Snake fists are also unbelievably good. If you infuse them with occult they actually have higher status buildup than poison and they do titanic damage

[obtuse halo]

I’ve gotten a decent number of kills off of it -> Poison Moth Flight while they’re fishing for a bolus

[proven horizon]

I beat the dlc final boss with snake fists with flower kick

[obtuse halo]

Lmaooo

Nice

[thin stratus]

after night bloodw they should unify the bits of the teams that are good and and like making the multiplayer specifoc stuff

and make fantasy helldivers

[glossy delta]

Okay, second win
People were not joking about ||Adel|| being a chump
I almost wish the queue set me at someone else because I got a REALLY good ironeye setup that run
Two seperate 'ranged damage +10' weapon drops, a really nice Frostbite bow, and a magma whip in the offhand with a held effect of 'heal every time you land a hit'
I barely used my flasks, just spammed arrows out

[arctic geyser]

played against ||equilibrius nightlord||

||both of the randoms went down very quickly, so either it was their first time or it was major goof ||

sucks too cause I had a fire bleed twinsword

was constantly popping 2k damage every few seconds

[arctic geyser]

|| second ironeye that doesn't know to use ult to break equil's meditation||

[gray leaf]

it's kind of weird how often Elden Ring conflates motherhood and divinity, and in both directions.

I think you may have posted that in the wrong channel, though it is fun.

[arctic geyser]

oh so I did

[arctic geyser]

party wipes to red enemy at end of day 1, one person leaves

we make it to day 2

die to day 2 boss

happens again next run

same red boss

same bosses

same way

randos sometimes

[plush cliff]

So three things
1 ||what the fuck is going on with that sky||
2 ||holy shit adel is easy, we've done four attempts on the holy knight guy and haven't even gotten him down to half but this thing we kill the first try||
3 ||...you know we were wondering what the excuse for being able to change outfits would be, and while we were kind of expecting this to be it, we thought of it as a joke||

[arctic geyser]

||god damnit the first time I get competent teammates I get 0 luck with weapon rolls and can't do any damage||

||I hate fighting this goat so much ||

[gray leaf]

I just looked up how the Stone-Sheathed Sword works. It is much stranger than I expected, for no reason.

I am also thinking about how a hypothetical Elden Ring card game would work, and how many factions there would be.

I dont know why I'm thinking about this, to be clear.

[real shadow]

https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-nightreign-patch-notes-version-1011

[nova smelt]

He's so hard

[arctic geyser]

Yeah I dig the solo rune boost

Cause honestly remembrance stuff in MP is kinda eh

[arctic geyser]

||fwiw I feel jellyfish is more difficult in terms of generic survival. It's just people sorta misunderstand how the goat works. I've gotten very close twice but got unlucky both of those times cause again, ironeye/wylder didn't seem to realize they can pop his meditation with their ult.||

The other 3 times was just like, horrible rng or rage quitting teammates

[frail sky]

||Speaking of the goat, what does taking his deals do? The two times we’ve fought him we’ve just went “yeah that’s bait” and refused to take one||

[arctic geyser]

||they provide benefits for detriments, eg flask = flask for max hp reduction, hold death at bay = reduced max hp for 1 time hp heal from low hp, high level = gain 3 levels but lose one every time you pop a flask. Power of demon = gain floating eye that shoots enemies but builds up madness||

[chilly forum]

I don't care what anyone says Night reign is cool as hell if a total cash grab LOL
also I am going to have to spray the anti GRRM plot points at Form software because OH boy My favorite character has a lot of problems UGH haha

[arctic geyser]

||largely not really needed cause if you understand the boss fight enough you'll win.||

[glossy delta]

||the flask deal is good imo- the max hp reduction is like total chump change||

[arctic geyser]

||Yeh some of them seem not too bad, like madness buildup is pretty easy to deal with due to the gems reducing it. I just don't know if the eye deals madness damage, if it does it's gr8 for when you don't get madness stuff or if you already get good madness resistance||

[proven cloak]

I dont think I'd call it weird, I like how it ties together

[arctic geyser]

The two times I've gotten close with randoms was getting within the 5 letters of their name 😭

[proven cloak]

the broad scale tragedy of not having a 'purpose' in a seemingly uncaring universe

with the personal tragedy of mommy issues

imo Its at least as interesting as what BB does with motherhood, and I think I like it overall more

everything that exists was 'brought into' being by some distant thing, but now its all left to figure out what to do anyway, with no easy answers from the divine. all of Marika's children lived and struggled underneath her vision of the world, and now shes gone but they still gotta live in the aftermath of everything she did.

and it really is underpinning so many of the characters

even Sellen directly equates people in general to 'fallen children' of the universe itself

actually having started some of Recluse's storyline

I think NR might have some of this as well lmao

[plush cliff]

Can confirm, augur's drop is incredible
https://bsky.app/profile/zulliethewitch.bsky.social/post/3lqmocrr3os2x

Zullie the Witch (@zulliethewitch.bsky.social)

One thing I would advise starting Nightreign players do, especially my fellow Recluses, is to target the "Augur" boss early. The item it rewards improves the survivability of you and the rest of your team by an incredible degree, particularly for characters with lower base health.

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Bluesky · Jun 2, 2025, 11:28 AM

[arctic geyser]

That feels so funny

Because Augur is def one of the hardest bosses at first

[gray leaf]

...I think you're in the wrong channel.

[frozen olive]

yeah

i have so many forum tabs open i swear i clicked sm2 but i got ER instead

[steel scroll]

queued solo; it was a beautiful run (we died to augur)

[glossy delta]

Augur 💀

[chilly forum]

I’ve died so close to killing that boss it’s crazy lol

[glossy delta]

I want to go Ironeye on that cnidarian mf one of these days

[proven cloak]

this is what Godfrey's mending rune would have done. if from was brave enough to include it.

[plush cliff]

Honestly, with augur ironeye is just the best class

[glossy delta]

Oh my god
I just
Learned something
(Boss mechanic spoilers) ||Killing Augurs adds DAMAGES THE BOSS||

[arctic geyser]

||ye but I always felt the damage was kinda passable||

[real shadow]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gsbm9fBboAARiUT?format=jpg&name=large

(pun_rii on the birdsite)

[charred crane]

Talking to rev in the hub is funny

[plush cliff]

Revenant tip: Sebastian is real good at reviving people if he does his roar attack

[charred crane]

Is Sebastian the skeleton?

Holy hell thats their real names

I dead ass thought my Rev main was making shit up

[chilly forum]

I LOVE WYLDER MY MAIN MY BABY BOY

[plush cliff]

Also question, what does “ultimate art gauge up” do?

Or not up, +

[charred crane]

yesyesyes!

[plush cliff]

He’s SO good!

Positiveaura ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) I LOVE WYLDER MY MAIN MY BABY BOY

[charred crane]

thwip

[plush cliff]

(We assume it makes it charge faster but we truly have no idea. Maybe it boosts damage, in which case we should take it off revenant)

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Also question, what does “ultimate art gauge up” do?

[charred crane]

I found this https://www.reddit.com/r/Nightreign/comments/1l026sq/test_results_for_ultimate_art_gauge_1_2_3/

[languid tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589430962732007425/1379243271271878706/FunnyNightReign.webm

[light bridge]

I didn't know it was a physical object

Lmao.

[charred crane]

fucking stick gets me every time.

[glossy delta]

||Centaur|| down 😌

First try but a spicy ine

[plush cliff]

Revenant remembrance done
We love her even more now 😌

||Love how both of her “boss fights” are just the game going “okay so you know how rejection and healing work right?” and throwing a horde of enemies and a royal revenant at you 😌 ||

||Also we can’t equip the Old Portrait for some reason||

[vestal night]

Matchmaking doesn't seem to be working for me rn for some reason

[plush cliff]

Also we request that if anyone sees Revenant fanart they send it to us

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Revenant remembrance done
We love her even more now 😌

How so? Not getting sessions or is the game going “can’t connect to servers, sucks to be you”

Alaen | Vulpine Subaltern (any) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Matchmaking doesn't seem to be working for me rn for some reason

[plush cliff]

||Also her sleeping on the Recluse then immediately scooching away when she wakes up is adorable||

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Revenant remembrance done
We love her even more now 😌

[glossy delta]

Starting to think the ||ice dragon|| is the hardest nightlord
Tho we might have beaten it this run.... if our Wylder did not ragequit after losing like 3 levels in a row due to DEEPLY foolish decisions on their part

[charred crane]

L

not one with the pilebunker

[glossy delta]

We also got sidetracked trying to snag the secret treasure of ||the snowy mountain||, which we ultimately did not do, costing us a level of grinding time
It's a shame, I wound up with a top notch setup too- Executor with two purple serpentscale blades, bloody helice, eleanora's poleblade, and dragonscale blade

[vestal night]

just actually fought Augur
wow, this sucks

[glossy delta]

Its true!

[chilly forum]

GO TEAM

[glossy delta]

||Fulghor|| is only 9% beaten on steam...... huh! He seemed like one of the more 'fair' bosses

[arctic geyser]

||Fulghor is one of the hardest mechanical bosses||

||you can beat him if you "git gud" but the first 5 are easier with 2 of them being more knowledge checks||

also randoms are like

ok well

I don't want to be toxic

so lemme put it this way instead

if you're beating most bosses after a few tries you're better than probably 90% of people playing this game

this is probably the first time you're actually being seriously vibe checked as far as soulsborne games go

most of them you can farm and overlevel to beat bosses, this one you're hardcapped at lvl 15 (which IMO you don't really need to be above lvl 10 to beat the bosses)

but you're timelimited and most people are failing mechanical checks/knowledge checks to properly utilize the time they have

[arctic geyser]

😭 finally

||I got a recluse and wylder that were good enough so we all could get to max level and we just beat the shit out of him||

tbh it was actually a bit overkill cause each of us barely went down

none of us went down so much we went past the 1 bar

[proven cloak]

idk - ||Libra is a contender for hardest boss, imo. Moreso than even the final, I think.||

[proven cloak]

also the bosses are tanky enough, and with enough poise / mobility / damage that you can't just abuse the best Ashes to stomp

don't get me wrong Lions Claw is still good, but Sentient Pest and Gaping Maw will just eat 20 of them no prob

[plush cliff]

||How does Fulghor's weird ring of light debuff work btw?||

[arctic geyser]

||Libra is def hard but I think it's cause it's a very strict knowledge check cause if you don't interrupt meditation he does very hard to avoid AOE + gets defense where if you do interrupt it he gets monched cause his beserk attack patterns are easier to dodge despite doing more damage. But also, if you build enough madness resist his AOE isn't tooo bad and then you just need a person with enough tankiness/stagger like Wylder or Raider||

[arctic geyser]

well yeah you still have to try just you can massively overlevel to make the difficulty easier cause you can output greater damage or have more hp/stamina/mp raw

||just did executor's remebrance first try, def samurai vibes||

[arctic geyser]

I got the seppuku relic

but it's on lightning attack power and I don't have relic for starting weapon to get lightning

[arctic geyser]

||omg fighting fulghor is such a slogfest||

||I knew he was annoying but I didn't think he was that bad||

[real shadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408452338622267401/1379371805055385671/tumblr_abc887b2134fa658d19f62de1eec66eb_8204689b_1280.jpg?ex=683fff99&is=683eae19&hm=3fbb36ca5639ecfb1cbb7f3d272411506be95930c31854a63d41646e08c73302&

[sleek plover]

ily grass crest shield

thank you grass crest shield

please sign my autograph grass crest shield

[chilly forum]

||Ice dragon|| defeated two night lords remain

[hybrid perch]

Sadly haven’t been able to play neightrein yet but Revenant seems amazing, I love the character design and all

Which character are you guys having the most fun with?

[arctic geyser]

I have only played executor

Having fun depends on what you enjoy but game has diverse enough selection

Certain chars are worse for different reasons but nothing is unwinnable

Guardian is considered the defacto worse cause Nightreign is ultimately a speed running game

But like

Boss spoilers

He trivializes ||gaping maw cause he can just stand there and let himself be grabbed and tank it||

[chilly forum]

I am a Wylder main he’s so cool and simple, but very effective with lots of tech you can pull off

[chilly forum]

I disagree he isn’t terrible I actually think raider is worse than him just because Bird man’s defense is a lot more effective

[arctic geyser]

Is that so? I've kinda assumed raider is better cause better dps + stagger

But again, this is based on offense meta as making things ded faster is better for routing

[chilly forum]

His move-set seems slow he does no a lot of damage but has a hard time hitting fast moving foes

[real shadow]

Raider can tank through attacks and do a lot of stagger damage, Guardian has more HP and has a way better ult.

[arctic geyser]

There's nothing that would scale on HP for offense right?

[real shadow]

The pro strat with Raider is finding a colossal weapon ASAP because he swings two-handers at about the same speed so you may as well go big.

[chilly forum]

I think with guardian the best way to play is to except you will not be doing big boy damage and focus on agro hp/defense and guard counters

[wild sierra]

Guardian gets much better after you do some of his rememberances for unique relic effects

[real shadow]

Yeah, you want to draw aggro with the Guardian and one of the best ways is via damage tics. Grab poison/rot/whatever.

[arctic geyser]

Yeh which is why most consider him the worst

Cause boss fights with no timer is fine

But overworld being timed works against him unfortunately

On the flipside maybe you can have him solo a boss down while his teammates 2v1 a separate boss?

[real shadow]

Possibly. For split bosses he'd do well enough I guess.

[arctic geyser]

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action-rpg/elden-ring-nightreign-director-has-soloed-every-boss-without-relics-and-he-wants-fans-to-know-that-this-is-very-possible-despite-concerns-over-difficulty/

[chilly forum]

Insane

[arctic geyser]

me reading this
"I clearly need to try harder to become john sekiro"

[mighty warren]

i love guardian so much, genuinely the exact fantasy i've been wanting in a souls game forever

Playing a diet dragoon /half joke

there's also just
nothing like dive bombing an ally while the boss tries to switch aggro to you and not only getting them up but healing yourself and them to full

[steel scroll]

I didn't like Raiders big fuck you rock until I used it to yoink two downed allies out of reach of a swarm. I mean, a res would've done the same thing but its versatile at least

[proven cloak]

the more I do the remembrances the more I can see this game thrusts in the same general direction of ER, on a theme level

shoutout Rev's "Duty = A Curse" line

she nearly quotes the Verdigris Discus directly

[gray leaf]

...it seems as though there was a wine cellar in Castle Stormveil. Which is interesting, since I didn't think the Lands Between had access to fermentation.

"is there alcohol in the Lands Between" has been simmering away in the back of my mind and I feel like the answer would be weird either way.

[plush cliff]

Revenant, Ironheart, and Wylder for us

S̶̕͠ö̸͠m̴̾̅ë̶́͗ơ̸̊n̷͐̐ẽ̴ ↩

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Sadly haven’t been able to play neightrein yet but Revenant seems amazing, I love the character desi…

[gray leaf]

if anyone has any further evidence about the presence or absence of alcohol in the Lands Between, I'd be curious to know.

[plush cliff]

tbh we’ve been tempted to do some solo runs so we can try out/learn executor

Reverb-MSG4RF- ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action-rpg/elden-ring-nightreign-director-has-soloed-every-boss-without-relics-and-he-wants-fans-to-know-that-this-is-very-possible-despite-concerns-over-difficulty/ … 📎

We’ll be on the lookout

Bananatron (She/He (Mix it up)) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) if anyone has any further evidence about the presence or absence of alcohol in the Lands Between, I'…

[glossy delta]

||Living Pests|| down
What an immense pain
We are very lucky duchess found a rot dagger
I suspect strongly they're immune to poison

[arctic geyser]

Someone posted this on the reddit

That is def some excellent rolls for executor sheesh

[light bridge]

Post damage attacks? As in, recovering the yellow bar?

[arctic geyser]

When you get hit itll show a bar and if you attack itll refill some of that bar

On your HP

I got the effect when I used Malenia's legendary weapon when I got it

[steel scroll]

JUST LOST A RUN TO SERVER ISSUES FUUUUUUCK

also the fucking scream i scrumpt when i saw this guy pop up (random end of day boss spoiler, starts with 'Sme')

[old brook]

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, ||Smelter Demon||

[proven cloak]

It definitely 100% exists in Nightreign

[gray leaf]

Where does Nightreign take place? I'm not even certain.

[steel scroll]

limveld

[old brook]

I feel like there had to have been reference in ER it's just not coming to me

[steel scroll]

where's limveld? lol. lmao.

[old brook]

Nobody gets to live it up like Sekiro and his monkey booze

[proven cloak]

Its kind of the Lands Between

you can find things related to it during a couple remembrances

[gray leaf]

The reason why I'm curious is because fermentation is explicitly the purview of the Goddess of Rot, as seen by the forager brood sharing information on fermented foods. (Their "well-pickled" foods are explicitly fermented.) And I'm not sure if fermentation exists in the Lands Between.

[old brook]

The Dark Souls 3 version of Elden Ring

Also there's giant kegs and I'm not sure what else they'd be used for

[glossy delta]

It's def the lands between in some form
Executors story makes clear ||the Erdtree should be here, but is not||

[proven cloak]

thats the quest I was thinking of

[gray leaf]

Yeah, that's what I didn't remember. But kegs pretty clearly imply fermentation, which is interesting.

[glossy delta]

Honestly what interests me more is the new glances at lands beyond the lands between
||Casual mention of a war god with a name, the fellowship described as a globetrotting organization with going to the lands between being a job like any other||

||The lands wind up feeling less like The Only Place That Matters and more like||
||Italy, or something||
||The Vatican Erdtree is there! Waow! But not the biggest deal ever||

[proven cloak]

its probably still ||where earthly life originated||

but yeah

and they do, esp in Raider's quest, define how other places think of the Lands Between

||"That place where people fight all the time, and champions are born."||

[plush cliff]

I've always had the theory that everywhere else in the world just looks at the Lands Between and go "this shit is fucked" and avoid it whenever possible

Namoeleon (ping me about D&D 4e) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Honestly what interests me more is the new glances at lands beyond the lands between
||Casual menti||…

[proven cloak]

its probably yearned for a little bit

the Tarnished at least had a cultural yearning towards it, and the Erdtree / Finger faith explicitly spread outside of it

so it'd be like the promised land

not by Nightreign though

[proven cloak]

the Raider's remembrance shows that by his life this is what people thought

"This place is fucked, the Night has claimed it"

his ||rival sails into it and is considered 'lost'||

[old brook]

Sounds like folks don't want the strength of runes smh

[glossy delta]

I've been trying to place nightreign in the ER timeline, assuming it's not an alt timeline
I think the best fit has to be ||between the dying down of the Shatterings actual warfare and the start of the tarnished return||
||So a prequel||
||Ring breaks, big war, space time wedgie from broken laws of reality, we clean that up and the Tarnished come after||

[proven cloak]

imo I think it takes place ambigiously ages afterwards as well

they've fought the night for 'Eons', the 'Erdtree is long gone'

[gray leaf]

Oh interesting. I always assumed ||it took place after the Age of Stars ending|| but I guess I didn't know.

[proven cloak]

well, the final boss ||Does have a Moonlight Greatsword, but not a Ranni one||

also I guess I trust Ranni enough for her to. not want to do All That.

[glossy delta]

||Yeahh, it's very possibly just an alt timeline||
||The game is being very open about other worlds existing||

Anyhow- I really do need to do Raider's rememberance line
Both because of the tasty lore but also ||the remembrance outfit that takes off his STUPID FUCKING ARMOR that makes him look like a fur-lined barrel is amazing||

[arctic geyser]

Nightreign is in the Bloodborne timeline

Think about it

It makes perfect sense

The DLC will make the connection obvious and it will be confirmed as Bloodborne 1.5

[real shadow]

Curiously, despite evidence to the contrary, Duskbloods will be a King's Field title.

[proven cloak]

Nightreign is actually depicting the fires (rain = burning) of Rubicon (rubicon = water = rain)

[light bridge]

This peak

[ember isle]

I sent this in the wrong chat but executor has built in sekiro multi-parrying I realized

Not ground breaking but it broke my ground

I should really try to lock in and see if I can get far in sekiro since I'm not that good at it

I also have to play more nightreign, I've only dabbled a little

[languid mantle]

Oh so like in Bloodborne?

[ember isle]

Yup

[plush cliff]

What's multi-parrying?

Emmu(He/Him) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) I sent this in the wrong chat but executor has built in sekiro multi-parrying I realized

[real shadow]

Parrying multiple attacks in a row.

[plush cliff]

Ah

[glossy delta]

Yeah, for stuff like the godskin nobles stab flurry, one press will let you deflect multiple of the stabs

[arctic geyser]

Yeh

[proven cloak]

https://kira-kui-n.tumblr.com/post/784898124835667968

[plush cliff]

👀
https://bsky.app/profile/zulliethewitch.bsky.social/post/3lqqfzt6uk22x

Zullie the Witch (@zulliethewitch.bsky.social)

I was wondering how much post-launch support there would be aside from the actual DLC. I'm hoping they pull in more bosses from the older games, since it feels like it'd be a lightweight way to bolster the roster. Nightreign acting as a big confluence of previous Souls titles would be great.

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[frozen olive]

duo expeditions you say

[chilly forum]

yeah theirs unused 3 stage OST songs people found in the files for each of the present Night bosses

[proven cloak]

unused model for Gaping Maw, too

||his Maw gets bigger, like he cragbladed it||

[plush cliff]

...just realized we have not seen a single guardian yet

[gray leaf]

Okay. Important question: what does the sun look like in Nightreign?

[glossy delta]

||Libra|| first clear!
"Shall we both fight at our utmost"
Wow we both sure did fight at our utmost
Raider clear too, and that seems like the wish he'd make

I got like five items that gave damage negation on taking damage and my relics enhance damage on taking damage
And we got the ||Rotten woods sacred treasure which gives rally and extra max hp||
So I'd pop skill and just go crazy nuts

[proven cloak]

it varies

[gray leaf]

Huh. That explains nothing. ||It looks like the real sun? I'm just thinking of a pre-nightreign video which posited that the sun in Elden Ring is fake, possibly a memory like the ghost banners outside Leyndell, and that the real sun is actually the Elden Beast.|| So I was thinking about timeline implications but... well, I dunno.

[proven cloak]

the actual night sky (behind the clouds) is mostly normal (if the stars are a little funky) until the final nightlord

heres non-final hunt night skies:

heres the final one:

has that sort of night-oil-slick aesthetic to it

[proven cloak]

I've never seen this video, but I pretty much agree with the last point

or at least - its something closely connected to it ||given how much solar imagery the Elden Ring / Beast / Erdtree uses, and the way the sun is described as similarly 'broken'||

Nightreign even adds another item that calls the Erdtree's blessing the sun

||```Blessed Flowers

Altus flowers flush with nutrients and grace. Before, such flowers were commonplace on the Altus Plateau.

The vibrant hues suggest that the flowers received plenty of sunlight, and appear to shine in an ode to the resplendent Erdtree.```||

[gray leaf]

Here's the video in question ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6LsOHNUqlU||

[proven cloak]

I mean the memory of grace, and the pause menu, are both sunlight-on-water

the stronger warming stone, directly connected to the Erdtree, is a 'sunwarmth stone'

it produces Sunlight, full stop

the Elden Beast arena has sunlight reflected in the water, but no sun in the sky - because the Elden Beast is right there

Enir-Illm, and Farum Azula, two places closely connected to the Elden Ring, are permanently engulfed in daylight

every mending rune is equated to a sun

if theres some sort of magic supernatural being associated with the sun in the setting, its probably connected to the Elden Ring

[gray leaf]

This suggests that the Elden Beast isn't associated with the sun, it is the sun.

[proven cloak]

also ||Idk if anything in Nightreign isnt a memory, given how much remembrances and identity play in the Nightfarers and Nightlords||

||Each of these suns and skies might just be a memory that got eaten by the Night, spit back up||

[proven cloak]

I wouldn't be surprised

and given its close association with primordial life, idk - it makes thematic sense that terrestrial life would begin with the sun's energy. One of those magical realism elements.

personally, I think a strong inspiration for the shapes within the Elden Ring is probably a parhelion - sun halos

probably not the only thing

its clearly got those celtic triskelions or whatever

but given how much light and sunlight stuff its got? I wouldn't be surprised if this is where the upward arcs and line come from

[ember isle]

Parrying attacks in a multi hit, like a full combo. Elden Ring/soulsborne tend to have one big parry where you instantly stop them and can go for a hit, while sekiro is about out staggering your opponent by parrying what they throw at you until they open themselves up for a weakspot hit

https://youtu.be/8bnGGp1yZY8?si=oDDEzifV4Yg6lxlI

A good example of how combat looks a lot different compared to other soulsborne games

[gray leaf]

I'm watching this person's "unified theory" videos theorizing on what runes are and how they work, and for all that's being described, there's one fact about them which I don't see being commonly discussed: runes are entirely fungible. You can give another person some of your runes, and in fact this is common enough that it's the de facto currency. You can get them from killing, sure, but you can also just trade them around. And trading them around is something anyone can do, while acquiring strength from runes requires the services of a finger maiden.

[frozen olive]

Sekiro Parry my beloved

[ember isle]

It also gets bonus points for making you look like a badass once you can land them right

[feral linden]

Nightreign people

Queryy

Uh
Is there an explanation why centipede demon and dukes dear freyja are in thus

*this

[proven cloak]

in game? no
from interviews? 'idk the Nightlord did it'

probably just to add some spice to the gameplay than any lore reason

[glossy delta]

Ostensibly the Night is a multiversal phenomenon that's pulling dregs from other realms
But yeah it's because Nightreign is like a Fromsoft arcade game

[proven cloak]

it fits the sorta dissolving of memory the night seems to do

it erases history, and scours away identity

so idk in a meta sense maybe that applies to the bosses themselves? but thats too meta for me

[gray leaf]

something very obvious about the moon in Elden Ring which I'm sure has been pointed out before, but I have not personally encountered: it's not all there. Like, you can see stars in the curve of the crescent, which is not how a crescent moon works unless the stars are closer than the moon somehow (which we know they aren't, because according to Ymir the moon is the closest of the celestial bodies, and you know you're somewhere weird if you need a citation on that).

[steel scroll]

modern day soulslike where the Mysterious Waifish Woman levels you up by shovelling dollars into your mouth

i need to do more of the rememberance stuff - something i really liked about the SotE DLC was how there was a bigger focus on more interesting npcs who had their own things going on. if they ever make another 'traditional' soulslike i hope its something they really expand on.

[signal harness]

https://preview.redd.it/171opcwl7s441.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b1c99c437fccb42356166d2669288bf714c36dda

[arctic geyser]

CW: massive nightreign spoilers
||very likely the shape of night does it. He straight up does some sephiroth levels of bullshit and there's no doubt in my mind this dude is ripping dimensions apart||

Like I haven't played ER

||but it wouldn't surprise me if there was someway for some dude to get a bunch of power and then to basically spam dimensions together or w/e||

[mighty warren]

also spoilers

|| considering the man literally cuts through the fabric of reality to buff himself with certain elements (i've seen atleast holy and frost) yeah probably||

[arctic geyser]

||yeh, hes the last one we just fought him for the first time yesterday||

[arctic geyser]

https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring-nightreign/personality-test

Bamco

[frozen olive]

yippeeeee

[tropic stream]

lmao

'Hi I like killing shit'

[glossy delta]

Executor is cool but so weird
I feel there should be some way to get status on his skill
A 'cursed blade inflicts scarlet rot when revealed' relic or some such

[frozen olive]

what is the curse on executors sword

[obtuse halo]

I got Recluse which felt weird after giving melee-favoring answers 😛

[arctic geyser]

His skill is for 1v1ing/tanking.

It will out dps most weapons you pick up

S in Arcane is for the actual weapons for offense when he isn't tanking

And even then you gotta get a good enough weapon to make it worth it

Which to be clear

Bone katana that is poison only is passable

After using it You're better off proccing poison if it's possible then swapping to cursed sword

Cursed sword does better stagger

Also

Practice swapping to cursed sword as much as possible

Swapping to it counts as a parry

After some time the last run me and my friends were in I've gotten good enough to have 5 flasks left while one of my friends ran out

[proven cloak]

his skill calls it a 'living' sword, so maybe that?

The blade lost its voice, but is forever loyal to its master.
oh ok

[frozen olive]

interesting

[proven cloak]

theres weird stuff with Executor's identity, quest spoilers - ||He's pretty clearly the crucible knight by the end, but all of his journals seem to be from the painter's perspective. idk if he just forgot himself, or if they actually merged or something.||

||it could be the sword + the two people in his backstory all got mixed together with life-energy, and now they're all bound as one? ¯_(ツ)_/¯||

[vestal night]

||maybe it's a weird plural thing||

[proven cloak]

he can share that with the Nightlord(s) then

[chilly forum]

||Its all current Night boss elements/damage types FYI it depends on the sky box when he cuts||

[proven cloak]

I'm wondering if other people reading the final boss relic also thought it ||was kind of an oblique reference to Radagon & the Shattering?||

||He's pretty consistently described as a 'hero' or 'heroic' in the text, and the circumstances match a tarnished fighting him following the Shattering||

[gray leaf]

You ever just randomly discover the existence of some stupid borderline-useless item with massive lore implications casually tucked away? https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Sun+Realm+Shield# (This is elden ring, not nightreign.)

[frozen olive]

Always

Sun gone

Rip

[proven cloak]

or the coinflip that its just a DS reference

ancient dragon transformation item calls the sun 'faded and tarnished' too, this + that is what I meant when I said the sun is often referenced like the Erdtree / Tarnished

[obtuse halo]

yeah the Sun Realm shield is wild

it's not an item anyone uses and it's such a rare drop that you might not even know it exists

[proven cloak]

pretty shield though

[obtuse halo]

and then the flavor text is a bombshell

[charred crane]

Had a really good looking run against Adel with randoms. They both drop when he's about 2/3, I kite till I can Ult (Guardian. Get the boss down to 1/4 with just little pokes. Ult, get both my pals up. Immediately eat a grab from Adel that knocks me down. (You can't guardian ult through it apparently.)

While my randoms are running to get me my connection to the server drops. 🥹

[cinder jay]

The fun thing about fragmented storytelling is that you never know what part to actually take seriously.

[real shadow]

I've had the worst luck with Adel twice now.

[cinder jay]

Usually it's all good, and then you get the odd ladder guy randomly found dead and wonder what's going on.

[proven cloak]

lmao yeah
its why I try to always think about context and framing

like if its something that shows up in cutscenes? probably at least something to keep in mind

its placed intentionally at the forefront

same for item descriptions from big moments or bosses - thats the most direct time the game can pull you aside to explain what happened

[cinder jay]

I just pray their next games have a different naming scheme for the major characters

[proven cloak]

Adel geniunely feels harder for me to fight than most of the NLs

[charred crane]

When he explodes it's a coin flip

I'm dead or my game crashes

[proven cloak]

he learned the secret gravity magic technique 'Ultima Frame Dropper' from Promised Consort Radahn

[frail sky]

Not the doll 😔

[real shadow]

He moves deceptively fast, his charges are just ever so slightly off that dodging them at the right time is frustrating to nail down, his grab attack is bullshit (when aren't they tho) and yeah the lightning is just. why.

[proven cloak]

I got Guardian, eugh

shields 🙄

[real shadow]

It doesn't help that finding poison weapons during a run isn't guaranteed and even then it doesn't always seem to do anything and he's just a lot more hassle than he should be. It's like someone took the golden hippo from SotE and made it twice as annoying.

(also the smelter demon fucking sucks)

[cinder jay]

Unsurprisingly I got the Duchess. When one of the options to solving your problems was to hoist them on someone else, I just couldn't resist.

The duchess is making me want to play through Bloodborne again though. The only thing keeping me from that is that because of the wonders of PS+ you need to pay to use the grind chalice, and if you don't use it then grinding for blood vials and such is a tad bit annoying; not the end of the world but annoying nevertheless.

[charred crane]

Aayy

Shout out the all rounders

I still haven't even played this frickin character

Does her Ult Rez?

[cinder jay]

Nope, it stealthes I believe

[charred crane]

Damn I definitely didn't answer a single question like that

I should give her a shot tho I know I'll like her more than Executor

[vestal night]

Her ability is interesting

[charred crane]

Ya, so do you attack the main target or can you also do damage to the after image?

[vestal night]

It just repeats the hit

[real shadow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/bloodborne/mods/206 Genuinely a QOL changer here.

[vestal night]

I should really set up emulation for Bloodborne some time

[median rock]

i own bloodborne legally, but my most recent replay i just set up emulation because my computer can handle it & its a lot easier for me

[cinder jay]

Oh I'd agree, and say that with what they wanted to do with the blood vials in Bloodborne could have been achieved by just having bloodvials drop anyway (which even if that'd gotten some frustrations would still have been better).

[median rock]

and there's mods to just add specific dungeons to your chalice list, so as long as you can go get the chalice itself (aka post amelia), you don't need to pay for ps+. never bothered farming for runes/vials though, i just used it for grabbing lost/uncanny weapons

er, not amelia, bsb

[real shadow]

They could've really made the vials drop more frequently and I think people would've been a lot less annoyed over it.

As it is, by mid-late game it becomes a non-issue because you're swimming in blood echoes and can just buy a few hundred vials. Which does beg the question of why it's that way anyway.

[median rock]

personally, i never had an issue with vials dropping - there's a bunch of lamps with executioners that drop them early game, as well as give you more than enough echoes to just buy bullets. and they're pretty trivial to backstab/parry

[charred crane]

Ya the brick ogres give vials fo free

[real shadow]

Yeah, I didn't have much trouble either. I didn't like it, mind.

[median rock]

i don't think its an unreasonable change, but i do think its a compelling game mechanic. i like how it incentivizes flawless fights for bosses a lot more than er/dark souls do

[cinder jay]

My guess would be that it was designed that way due to wanting vials to drop from enemies such that you could replenish them between lanterns (as part of the more aggressive play-style of Bloodborne and thus implicit need for more health regain), but conversely due to this the blood vials were positioned as a consumable that you should be able to accumulate.

[median rock]

specifically, one of the things i'm not a huge fan of in ER is how easy it is to just damage tank through the bosses, or at least through the 'hard to dodge' attacks. part of it its how easy it is to get overleveled, which is what makes that possible - but you also just get so much healing by altus

outside of the very early game, anything that doesn't oneshot you is not a threat

i think it comes alongside with incentivizing more careful play around specific areas (which elden ring mostly drops just due to the environment structure), where you have to have specific ways you approach X door/building because of the enemies inside it. when HP costs a lot less, there's less penalty for being incautious

[cinder jay]

Are you talking about bloodvials?

[frozen olive]

ngl i modded out blood vials being consumables as soon as i started playing Bloodborne, it was the most annoying shit ever

[cinder jay]

Because comparatively to other games in the series, vials are one of the more plentiful resources you're going to have from the get go as you can carry 20 and they heal for a good bit. The punishment is more for either not killing everything, or dying to a boss repeatedly.

[frozen olive]

it was that or going to cummpfk dungeon to farm out one million blood echoes and purchase an inexhaustable supply of them anyway and it's just easier and less time consuming to mod the game so they aren't consumables

[charred crane]

In bloodborne I'll admit I'm a purist I don't necessarily like vials being consumables, but am ok with it because the game rewards aggression. Getting hit but getting a bit of the damage back (or all) by attacking feels really really good

I said damage I meant health

[frozen olive]

i do that too, but again the only difference between using the mod and not using the mod is how much of my time i waste on menial tasks so there's no reason not to use it imo

[cinder jay]

And I think that's the crux of the problem; even as I can identify the various reasons for a mechanic to be implemented, if there are also ways to circumvent these gameplay patterns you need to ask if people won't tend towards these ways to circumvent it.

[frozen olive]

my fav weapon is the Hunters Axe

[frozen olive]

mhm

[cinder jay]

Think the only two times I can remember running out of vials I had stocked was when fighting Logarius and Orphan, due to both those fights taking a while for me.

[charred crane]

There isn't a fucking "Kirkhammer my beloved" gif

[frozen olive]

i tried a few weapons but the simplicity and just like, fun factor of the axe is so peak

also i feel like i could make one irl, and it would function exactly like it does in the game with no issues

[charred crane]

It's pretty solid

[frozen olive]

and i think that's sick

[charred crane]

That being said I think I could make a Kirkhammer

[frozen olive]

mind you for most of the trick weapons they are doable irl, but it's easier or more difficult for some

[cinder jay]

Saif and Holy Blade are also solid.

[charred crane]

How do you feel about applying the same logic to bullets?

[frozen olive]

the only thing you'd need to change on the Kirkhammer imo is the material

stone is, not amazing i feel for making a hammer head out of

[cinder jay]

The same as vials? Fine tbh.

[frozen olive]

the mod i used for vials also had a component for bullets and i just applied the same thought proccess and used it

[cinder jay]

Can't think of a soulsborne game where grinding for arrows has been the most engaging part; quite the opposite in that it's a common struggle for any run utilising them.

[frozen olive]

yeah

again most of the point of using QoL mods is

will this make the experience more fun

will it streamline it so you can do more of the stuff you enjoy in it

the answer for bullets and vials is yes

because i sort of need those

and having to pause to farm them out randomly during my run isn't particularly fun

[cinder jay]

I'm fine with having resources capped between resting points, with or without ways to regain them in-between, because attrition itself is interesting.

[frozen olive]

mhm

[cinder jay]

But for example let's say you didn't regain FP when you rested and instead needed to craft a consumable blue potion from moss you gathered in Elden Ring.

[real shadow]

I'm 100% behind using that QoL mod and I say this as someone who platinumed the game on a base PS4.

Like I did my time in the blood vial mines.

[cinder jay]

You drank from the chalice

(I will not apologise)

[frozen olive]

most weapons in Bloodborne are actually doable irl which i quite enjoy

[real shadow]

I'm also behind using mods to do things like change your stats/appearance while at the Hunter's Dream, which is missing from base BB for some inexplicable reason.

[frozen olive]

some like the blood weapons, Simons Bowblade, shit like Amygdalan arm and kos parasite are ofc just not a thing remotely

[real shadow]

(and also maybe give a goddamn Arcane weapon early like jfc)

[cinder jay]

But yeah, I never did platinum the game by virtue of not having the wherewithal for the queen, but otherwise have completed it twice or thrice over (can't remember, maybe more).

[charred crane]

Ye I guess I can't be too picky over the vials. When I did my gun run I used the funny dungeon to farm souls and buy all the bullets in the world

[frozen olive]

but pretty much all of the hunters workshop weapons are doable

[frozen olive]

i still need to go back and do all the chalice dungeon bosses 😭

[real shadow]

The queen is an interesting fight but it's not worth going through all those chalice dungeons.

[frozen olive]

i'm doing boss completion on all the from souls-like games and i basically just Elden Ring, Bloodborne chalice dungeons and Demon Souls left

[cinder jay]

What's the worst that could happen, having to fight a hellhound at half hp?

[real shadow]

Nah you don't fight the hellhound at half HP.

You fight a fucking Amgydala lmao

[frozen olive]

yeah i've heard the chalice bosses are

not amazing

[cinder jay]

A few of them honestly are good fights, it's just that I don't think the dungeons were quite designed with how people engage with the game in mind.

[real shadow]

The chalice bosses are basically all the bosses that didn't pass quality control but they didn't want to throw away all that effort so they shoved'em into an optional dungeon crawl side-game.

[frozen olive]

i left all of them until the end which is why i uh, haven't finished them

i don't like doing them much at all

so i've sort of neglected it

[cinder jay]

In that I think they were meant to be interspersed throughout a playthrough, but because there's not a whole lot of reason to actually play them that way people end up approaching them as a single chunk if at all.

[real shadow]

Given that you got through the base game + DLC it'll mostly be a cakewalk for you.

Probably a weekend at most.

[frozen olive]

it will not take a lot of time

just mental energy

[cinder jay]

Mood

[real shadow]

Yeah...

[frozen olive]

i've already beat all of the hard stuff in like, all of the from games by this point

i've soloed every boss in Dark Souls, fought PCR at his strongest, slain everything in Sekiro except Inner Owl, beat Orphan and whatever else

[cinder jay]

Reminds me that I should check if anyone wants to play through Shadow of the Erdtree together, since most of the folk I know has already completed it a long time ago. I'm admittedly someone who does play with guides for NPC quests in soulsborne games which I suspect alters the experience.

[frozen olive]

i'm super going to go through the entire game and DLC again at some point

[real shadow]

Oh I absolutely play with a guide open to check when I get lost, fuck alla that shit lmao

[frozen olive]

i still need to beat every single boss in Elden Ring Solo except a few

[cinder jay]

Ugh, I still need to complete Sekiro. Stopped playing at the demon and picking up from there is understandably tough, so might just restart the whole game.

[frozen olive]

i'm not doing repeats either

[frozen olive]

i get that

i cheesed Demon the first time i did it

[cinder jay]

You don't want to randomly miss a key item with no real indication?

[vestal night]

Demon does suck tbh

worst boss in the game

[frozen olive]

what i think i might do is just, fight all of the main bosses in the base game of Elden Ring, then go for all of the big DLC bosses

cause i am

pretty sure i beat almost everything in base game solo

[vestal night]

I've done Demon legit once, and I probably never will again

[frozen olive]

the only one i remember i actually NEED to do solo is Starscourge Radahn

for the DLC bosses

[cinder jay]

It's not even that; I've just forgotten most of the muscle memory needed for Sekiro, so I'd be fighting Demon largely from scratch lol.

[frozen olive]

i need to just do every boss from Rellana forward iirc

except PCR

i already got my win against him

but yeah idk i'll get to them when i feel like it

kinda wanna go fight the final boss of Sekiro again though

[cinder jay]

The four monkeys?

[frozen olive]

lmao

nah, Glock Saint

one of my favourite from guys

the absolute GOAT

[median rock]

yeah, but its something you do really feel w/ bosses if you're not stockpiling 80 billion vials

[charred crane]

That fella made me put the game down permanently.

It's the only L I've accepted in a from game

[median rock]

especially on your first playthrough, assuming you're not overleveled & you're not stockpiling vials, you can run out pretty quick. and especially with chalice dungeons

[old brook]

Sword Saint is the final boss PCR wishes it was

[cinder jay]

This was something I felt during each of my playthroughs of the game, not being one to stockpile vials until a later one when I was playing through the game with another person watching.

[frozen olive]

honestly i like them both

[cinder jay]

Counting my first playthrough

[median rock]

obviously, you do outpace echo generation in terms of blood vials you can get

[frozen olive]

i think PCR is a very cool and somewhat fun boss

[cinder jay]

So whilst your experience may have been that Riker, mine was not.

[frozen olive]

definitely the pinnacle of strength for me as a super boss

[old brook]

Regular R is so, so much more impressive a fight than PCR but I can't get into this again

[charred crane]

I hold the prenerf Randy and Mickey fight W and I'm very happy about that

[frozen olive]

saaame

[median rock]

ss isshin was fun, and a lot more enjoyable than the shura isshin fight for me

[frozen olive]

gods that was fucking t ough

[plush cliff]

The what fights

Barclay ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) I hold the prenerf Randy and Mickey fight W and I'm very happy about that

[frozen olive]

PCR

they nerfed it a while ago

[plush cliff]

Ah

[median rock]

pcr, they're talking abuot it as 'radahn and miquella'

[charred crane]

Ye I call them randy and mickey

[frozen olive]

i hate Shura Isshin so much

it's not a fun fight at all

[old brook]

Now they just need to nerf them into a different cooler boss

[plush cliff]

See, that’s what confused us

Barclay ↩️

[Reply to:](#1251763655578488872 message) Ye I call them randy and mickey

[frozen olive]

it's also one of the reasons i have not fought Inner Owl

[median rock]

phase 1 is fine, phase 2 the fire moves just arent enjoyable to me

[charred crane]

Ya sorry

[frozen olive]

because the inner Owl route has like

[median rock]

inner owl is probably the hardest boss in the game bar none imo, but at least it's like. hard in an interesting way that forces you to learn it

[old brook]

Sekiro's optional routes and even getting to them is slightly cursed

[frozen olive]

Emma > Inner Isshin > Demon of Hatred > Inner Father/Owl

[median rock]

isshin ashina is just an annoying thing to have unblockable moves w/ not-super-intuitive dodge timings (doable, but just hard to first try/sightread) when its the final phase of a 3 phase fight

[frozen olive]

having to do Emma, Inner Isshin and Demon of Hatred gauntlet style made me want to never touch the game again

prolly all my least favourite bosses in the game in one go

[median rock]

i don't dislike fighting demon of hatred, but i fight it tedious. after my first 2 playthroughs i just learned the skip and do that every time - it works in reflections as well

*find it tedious

[frozen olive]

i did skip it once and i couldn't replicate the skip easily

[cinder jay]

But yeah, having played through Bloodborne blind, the intended way, with the cum chalice, and so on, using the chalice was the smoothest of all playthroughs in large part because whatever my experience was the vial storage was never felt really during exploration (only really when I was stuck at a boss), and when felt was an annoyance and nothing else really.

[frozen olive]

so i just never beat Inner Father/Owl

i honestly should go back to beat him at some point

[median rock]

inner owl is genuinely a super interesting fight, and the drip is immaculate anyway

[old brook]

I want to say they buffed blood vial drop rates at some point but I might be misremebering

[frozen olive]

i really like the Owl/Father fight

[charred crane]

Shout out the bountiful nut dungeon

I needs my bullets

And I'm not gonna bleed for them

[cinder jay]

Giving minor flashbacks to the Hollow Knight pantheon of Hallownest.

[frozen olive]

yeaaahh

[median rock]

the only thing ive never bothered to do in sekiro is the mortal journey gauntlet

i did hallownest, actually, but just - mortal journey is too much harder/requires locking in for too long. not my jam

[frozen olive]

i did the other two gauntlets but not Shura

[cinder jay]

I know some folk enjoy boss rushes as endurance challenges, but it's not quite been for me.

[frozen olive]

abysmal

i don't mind boss rushes

but Shura is just the worst

[cinder jay]

Boss rushes themselves can be fun, but it's more when it's an endurance challenge since it means that if you're struggling with one specific part it can take a long time before you get to retry it.

[median rock]

i think mortal journey is a lot more fun if you actually know & enjoy the scripted fights for the less conventional fights

[frozen olive]

yeah

i like the way Sekiro does it where you get to reset after every boss

[median rock]

like - if you know the setup for ape cheese/prep for the oneshot headless ape phase 2, that's a much more RNG fight turned into scrap quickly

and the same for the true monk phase 2 skip

[frozen olive]

confession but i've never done the monk illusion fight properly

i've beaten true monk several times

i always just cheese the illusion

[median rock]

fair enough. illusion is a pretty easy fight

i regularly do the phase 2 skip for true monk just because it's phase 1 again

[cinder jay]

The only thing that counts is having beaten it.

[frozen olive]

i've tried to beat the illusion but for some reason it just never works so i just skip it

which is weird

[cinder jay]

Ain't no true or false way to beat something, just ways to have beaten then.

[frozen olive]

cause True Monk was not that hard

[charred crane]

Aah da monkee

That was a fun series of fights

[median rock]

one of these days i should probably learn how to dead angle on genichiro/emma

i think you can dead angle isshin ashina as well but that one is less worth it for me than those two

[frozen olive]

Yeah i just have a thing with beating all bosses normally at least once

I beat most of Sekiro with just the sword and parry

Mostly cause i don't have the mental bandwidth to factor in too much stuff

[median rock]

i think the only prosthetic tools that're actually real game changers otherwise are firecrackers & the spear (for the armored guys)

[frozen olive]

Mhm

I didn't use the art things either

[median rock]

the rest are still good, especially umbrella & flame vent (and esp with living force) but they're just. not really consistently useful the same way

oh, and shuriken obviously for the designated "guy in the air" response

[frozen olive]

People kept recommending mortal blade and Double Ichimonji but they weren't that useful

[charred crane]

I like the sabimaru

[ember isle]

Mfw the samurai guy pulls out his 9 to mag dump me point blank

[charred crane]

But ya the spear was kinda huge

[frozen olive]

I love that Isshin has a like, one-shot pistol that he fires repeatedly with no reloads

Plying with infinite ammo mode

[charred crane]

That old man is no friend of mine

[median rock]

mortal draw is mostly really good if you do the jump mortal draw exploit

[ember isle]

He has the power of god and king von on his side

[median rock]

it's still good otherwise but it's much less impactful. and empowered always takes too long to charge for me

[frozen olive]

I like him and PCR for being "legendary oldhead brought back at the peak of their power"

No old decrepit people here these mfers are at the absolute peak of their lives and they're gonna make it known

[charred crane]

Then he gets bodied by cancer or whatever the hell isshin has

[frozen olive]

The same badass old man illness that Whitebeard had in One Piece

[ember isle]

He got the Goku heart cancer

[charred crane]

Oh fuck what if it's just TB

[frozen olive]

yeah lmao

that would be really funny

[charred crane]

Arthur Morgan begs to differ

[frozen olive]

true

[charred crane]

Damn I guess I gotta take a second run at sekiro

The highlight real is too solid to be butt hurt over one old man

[median rock]

the worst part of sekiro is indisputably whoever was in charge of calculating skill point math

[frozen olive]

yeah getting all the skill points sure was a thing!

i think i got into like ng4 or ng5 before i got all of them

[median rock]

its not awful if you keep running back ng+ cycles, but if you're speedrunning the higher ng cycles for ending trophies, you'll end up either needing to replay the game a bunch more or just one of hte endgame xp farms

i did it via endgame xp farm and just kept playing after, since i did it on ng3 or so when also maxing prosthetic tools

[charred crane]

And here I was just getting starved for seeds. I'm reminded of the headless in the cave that absolutely bodied me so many times in the early game

[proven cloak]

I like that it was as-hard or harder than Malenia

its the optional final challenge to cap off the dlc, I'd hope its tough

esp because base game ER had some safer final bosses in terms of difficulty, so there wasnt a hard wall to beating the story

I know a few people who wish Godfrey and Malekith had more hp so they could really enjoy the movesets

[frozen olive]

mhm

also tried fighting Isshin and the muscle memory wasn't there lmao

gonna warm up with Genichiro

i think i just need to practice Mikiri counter again honestly

yeah the memory isn't there anymore, haven't played this game in a long enough time

[obtuse halo]

generally yes though I think Radagon is one of the tougher FROM final boss fights