Elden Ring (DLC hype room) | Pilot NET | Page 57

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 7:24 PM

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they do a thing, that thing has an effect, that effect helps them not starve

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 7:24 PM

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it's neither faith nor intelligence, it just is

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 7:25 PM

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i mean no their stuff scales with int

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 7:26 PM

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ahh

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was more coming from the lens of requirements

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scaling is so opaque in this game, especially with skills

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drives me nuts that ice spear scales primarily with dex

proven cloak Jul 31, 2024, 7:27 PM

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they definitely have a reverance for those natural cycles

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I wouldn't call them faith-less

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isnt there that axe

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In the ancestral spirit-worshipping faith, these are considered envoys' wings, made to reap the lives of beings which experience no sprouting.

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also very crucible-coded

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one of the few enemies that drop budding horns

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ngl

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though I didn't call the exact ||Jar Rituals / Divine Gate|| its pretty much exactly what I was expecting, given the ancestor followers

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'Life sprouts from death, as it does from birth' + 'Thus does new life grow from death,
and from death, one obtains power.' + reaping those without buds

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110% sacrifice was gonna be involved

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 7:48 PM

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So

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||Hornsent’s invasion at the end of his quest is totally suicide by tarnished right?||

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Just

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Thinking about him

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And I can’t think of another explanation

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 7:49 PM

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Nah he's just snapped

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He's completely batshit insane at that point

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 7:49 PM

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||He’s very wordy and passionate when he fights people he actually wants revenge against is part of why I’m not sure of that||

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 7:50 PM

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SWORDSPEAR GOT

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 7:52 PM

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kind garden He's completely batshit insane at that point

That’s probably the intent but is much less compelling to me

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So I think I’m gonna take my interpretation :3

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 7:52 PM

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that or, like

obtuse halo Jul 31, 2024, 7:52 PM

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It's also possible ||he figured out on his own that you're one of the frontrunners for Marika's new consort||

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 7:53 PM

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he's just broadened his list of targets

obtuse halo Jul 31, 2024, 7:53 PM

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||Which he states explicitly as his motivation if he joins Leda to attack you in the last act||

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 7:53 PM

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Yeah I suppose that’s fair

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I just wish he had like

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Dialogue

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For that invasion

obtuse halo Jul 31, 2024, 7:53 PM

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it does seem like he should say something, yeah. It's a bit random.

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 7:53 PM

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It’s so weird that it’s one of the few times in the dlc someone attacks you completely wordlessly

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 7:54 PM

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If Miquella's redemption soothes the ache...that throbs within, demanding blessed vengeance... Then I wish not to be by him redeemed.

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 7:54 PM

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Btw one of the hardest lines in the dlc imo

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“Fuck you miquella, you can’t fix shit”

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 7:54 PM

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comes across like Hornsent is just completely over the cliff with rage and bloodlust

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 7:55 PM

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For me I read it more as like

A combination of that yes but also like….. he sees it as an injustice to just let his rage and heartache be smothered artificially

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 7:56 PM

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like to be clear I think that when you reach the point of going "fuck yeah, the bloodlust of revenge and rage that stems from loss is actually better than healing" you've lost it

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that's no longer a sane outlook, you've completely given up on trying to get better or fix your problems

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 7:58 PM

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Yeah probably

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He’s choosing to continue the cycle of violence

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I will admit I’m mostly wanting to give Hornsent a charitable read because I love him

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 7:59 PM

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oh he's great, I like him

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but he's nuttier than a squirrel den

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 7:59 PM

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Hornsent is channeling the classic blood feud in the celtic and germanic cultures that ER borrows heavily from

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He attacks you entirely because he believes he’s obligated and can get away with it

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 7:59 PM

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His line in messmer’s fight genuinely rivals igon for me
Totally different energies but both channeling pure hate

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:00 PM

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He 100% believes that you being connected to Marika is a killing offense, and that since he managed to kill Messmer then he has a shot at you too

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 8:01 PM

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Drawing a blank on classic blood feud / revenge stories but yeah

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Hornsent is 300% the tortured revenge hero and following Messmer's death he's hit the archetypical point-of-no-return where the protagonist can either come to their senses or double down and demand more blood

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:02 PM

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I’d say he wouldn’t call himself tortured or deluded

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 8:02 PM

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he wouldn't!

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:02 PM

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He’s just in a different genre than you

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Its in the phrase blood feud

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Someone does a crime to you or your family and you take it out on their blood

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If he ever did manage to kill you i wouldn’t be surprised if he started gunning for Miquella too once the charm broke

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 8:04 PM

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I mean he's pretty explicit about exactly who he's intending to kill next and it's Marika

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:04 PM

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Because one thing about Hornsent is that he’s also kind of a coward

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Like if he were a true blood debt revenger then he’d have taken a swing at Messmer whether or not he had a shot

glossy delta Jul 31, 2024, 8:05 PM

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I don't think he ever implies he wouldn't
When you help him out he goes 'this is my fight'

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:06 PM

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Because the salic law he’s channeling obligates him to seek vengeance regardless of the risk to himself

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 8:06 PM

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obliges

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:06 PM

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glossy delta I don't think he ever implies he wouldn't When you help him out he goes 'this is...

I mean if he really really wanted to above all other things then he’d have marched right up to Shadow Keep after his family died and taken his swing

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And the Hornsent Genocide happened a long, long time ago

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 8:07 PM

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I can’t really blame him for falling into hate considering that Marika turned his homeland into a living hell, and murdered his family/tortured them forever

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:07 PM

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Yeah its an understandable reaction

kind garden Jul 31, 2024, 8:07 PM

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Miquella charmed Hornsent into working with the rest of the group, I think it's safe to say that until Hornsent was put into a position where fulfilling the blood debt was viable he wasn't strictly looking to act on it

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 8:08 PM

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Honestly it’s probably that he tried to kill Miquella

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And that’s how he got charmed

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:08 PM

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But like if he was strictly following the blood feud obligation he’d have tried to murder your ass the moment Miquella’s charm broke

covert schooner Jul 31, 2024, 8:08 PM

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Is he saw another fucking demigod

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And tried to murder them

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And got a kissy instead

proven cloak Jul 31, 2024, 8:08 PM

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covert schooner ||Hornsent’s invasion at the end of his quest is totally suicide by tarnished ri...

I think its reasonable

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after the ||charm breaks, he sounds unsure if this is actually what he wants to do||

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||so I think its as much "I dont have a purpose anymore, might as well try and kill you"||

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:09 PM

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Yeah i think killing Messmer essentially gives him a confidence boost

glossy delta Jul 31, 2024, 8:09 PM

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I dunno
I don't really buy that there's any implication that he's secretly scared of fighting messmer
He probably has not done it yet so he can be
yknow
A side quest character

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:10 PM

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True but “NPC found dead/ dying of critical wounds near a boss door” is another fromsoft staple

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Dating back to Ostrava of Boletaria

proven cloak Jul 31, 2024, 8:10 PM

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grave plinth And the Hornsent Genocide happened a long, long time ago

its still ongoing tbf, I dont think theres much that implies he was alive during the initial war

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:11 PM

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Its actually hard to tell how active the crusade is

proven cloak Jul 31, 2024, 8:11 PM

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he gave me the vibe of a generation that grew up post-invasion

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:11 PM

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Scadu Altus is pretty heavily patrolled but outside of it Messmer’s forces largely keep to Castle Ensis

proven cloak Jul 31, 2024, 8:12 PM

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the furnace golems remain, at least

grave plinth Jul 31, 2024, 8:12 PM

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Yeah like they went through the entire region and judged it “cleared out”

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Then retreated back to base

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Leaving the golems behind as a skeleton crew

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And the golems aren’t even really good at mopping up survivors because there’s a whole bunch of living inquisitor hags prowling near the one on the Spiritgrave Plain

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That said, they probably retreated back to their castles because they pretty much eradicated the hornsent civilian population

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The only survivors are diehard religious and military personnel

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Like there’s very little to genocide anymore

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Unless you count the man flies and bloodfiends

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 8:33 PM

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Red wolf pisses me off

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Melee with the swordspear feels so slow

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Idk my melee damage feels so lackluster

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 8:49 PM

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are you one handing ot twohanding

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 8:50 PM

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Two

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 8:53 PM

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it is kinda slowish im honestly not a big fan of its moveset

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its not bad im just not a fan

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 8:54 PM

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I’ll find something else ngl.

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Unsure what’s a good weapon for a dex faith build

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 8:54 PM

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what are you looking for

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nothing

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dex faith really isnt suported

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 8:55 PM

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warped quest it is kinda slowish im honestly not a big fan of its moveset

i really dislike how short-ranged it is

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 8:55 PM

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that well

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dex leans int, while str leans faith

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the closest thign i would say for dex faith

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is lightning

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 8:55 PM

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there are a bunch of dex/fth weapons

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just most of them are later

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golden order greatsword, sacred relic sword, treespear, the two holy scythes

frail sky Jul 31, 2024, 8:57 PM

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vivid spire Unsure what’s a good weapon for a dex faith build

Black knife, inseparable greatsword, technically godslayer’s and vyke’s but those are more pure dex, winged scythe, treespear

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 8:57 PM

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magma candlestick

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 8:58 PM

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Flamberge, everyone's friend

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 8:58 PM

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there are more in the dlc

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like the fire knight stuff

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 8:58 PM

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I don’t wanna do like

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Pure dex

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I’m liking melee so far

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But a lot of the weapons are too slow or catch on walls

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And I struggle with timing blows

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I’ve just been upgrading the basic longsword so far it’s at +4

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:00 PM

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dex is pretty fun

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i didn't use it this game

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but the knight's greatsword moveset is great

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https://youtu.be/YftmLFWyz_Q?feature=shared

YouTube

Wolfheart1990

Elden Ring - Knight's Greatsword Moveset Showcase

One of the most elegant greatswords in the game. It's a shame it doesn't have a thrust R2 with a pointed tip like that. In fact, far too few greatswords have it :/

This weapon has an identical moveset to the Banished Knight's Greatsword, but is more dexterity leaning in scaling.

▶ Play video

limpid peak Jul 31, 2024, 9:02 PM

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love the knight's greatsword

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very fun moveset

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:02 PM

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its just the ds2 greatsword moveset which is amazing

limpid peak Jul 31, 2024, 9:03 PM

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favourite non-somber sword, until Milady

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:03 PM

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I want milady

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Idk

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Maybe I’ll go get black knife again

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As it stands my damage is poor but I’m only lvl 40

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 9:04 PM

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Black Knife is good to have even just as a lil' sidearm

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:04 PM

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I’m also in caelid rn

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:04 PM

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candle stick and blacknight and holy scythe is the onlydex/faith weapons i feel is worth using before the dlc

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 9:04 PM

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I thought the Winged Scythe was real

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 9:04 PM

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imo both of the holy scythes are fucking cracked

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:04 PM

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i don't like the other one mainly due to its weapon art

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 9:05 PM

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Also; what in the hell is that scythe referencing anyhow

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every deathbird has not been a white winged maiden

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 9:05 PM

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also both of the greatswords

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:05 PM

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i generally dislike artlocked weapons that arent really much better then a genric one with the art just placed on it

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 9:05 PM

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the golden order and sacred relic swords are both really good for dex/fth

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:06 PM

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Hmmm

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:06 PM

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i really think that all artlocked weapons that have a generic art need a buff

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:06 PM

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Maybe I could go fth/str but like

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:06 PM

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like reduced cost

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:06 PM

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I wanna be a dexterous sillyboy

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:06 PM

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or more damage

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heres what you culd do

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 9:06 PM

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technically also the blasphemous blade

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that one's triple-stat

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:06 PM

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foucs on melee but have some faith for buffs

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 9:06 PM

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but you can use it with 2/3

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as long as one of those is faith

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:07 PM

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warped quest foucs on melee but have some faith for buffs

Alrighty

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So mostly dex and less faith

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Is messmers spear a dex weapon

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 9:08 PM

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dex 35 fth 18 str 14

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:08 PM

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Ooh

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I gotta get to the dlc fast

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Also I had a stupid idea for a mod

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Rennala clasps your hand when you respec like Melina when you level up

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Maybe I’ll do an infantryman build?

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A few buffs

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:09 PM

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warped quest foucs on melee but have some faith for buffs

Should I raise my str a bit?

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:09 PM

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what weapon types are you intrestined in/have tried

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i would sya for str just min for stats to use weapo

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:10 PM

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I like spears and long swords

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And sometimes maces

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But not super big weapons

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:11 PM

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some noteworthy spears ar epartisan for its slash heavy, cross naginate for its moveset, clayman for being good with magic inufsions, cleanrot is a good quailty faith weapon

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im not a fan of longswords cause i fele they are a bit too basic

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 9:13 PM

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messmer soldier spear is also a great one

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:13 PM

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i know your tried the scimitar but did you try the falchion

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uses a diffrent moveset

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im trying to suggest stuff before the dlc

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and stuff they can get pretty much now

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a rapier like estoc also isnt a bad choice

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has a slashing heavy

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:14 PM

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I tried schnitzel

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But it was slow

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As was the falchion

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:14 PM

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falchion isnt slow

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:21 PM

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Is the warpick good or do I need to just level it up

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:21 PM

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its basicly a mace that does pierce damage

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i like to test new weapons i in the ruins where you usally meet melina

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that or the castle near margit

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:24 PM

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My strongest weapon is only 4 atm

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So I need to pick something to upgrade

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:25 PM

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find something your comfortable with first

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i guess you can also get the bell bearing pretty decently early

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the first one

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:30 PM

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I wanna try a cosplay build

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But uh

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I never do melee

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Like

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ever

atomic marsh Jul 31, 2024, 9:30 PM

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Wait

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What causes ||Hornsent to Invade you||

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:31 PM

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||helping him beat messmer otherwise he shows up in the leda fight to kill you||

atomic marsh Jul 31, 2024, 9:34 PM

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But I did done do that and that didn't happen

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 9:35 PM

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did you talk to him afterward?

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think you need to do that too

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:36 PM

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||he invades you at the top of the stairs near the centipide boss but you need to go ot the bottom of the stairs||

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:47 PM

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Yall

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What’s a good infantry cosplay to date Ranni in

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Now technically it’s personality

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But I have fashion sense

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I’d say high page

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:50 PM

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the inftraty armor is basicly all the same

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just changed colours

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:50 PM

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But the lack of poise

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Any ideas

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I guess I’ll do low poise but it’ll be hell in the dlc

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 9:56 PM

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poise is really goofy

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if your not 51 or higher it doesnt matter

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cause theres almost nothing that does under 50 poise damage

atomic marsh Jul 31, 2024, 9:56 PM

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languid tiger did you talk to him afterward?

Oh, then no

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I just did the boss and never saw him again

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:57 PM

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warped quest poise is really goofy

High page farming..

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 9:57 PM

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hm, I thought that you needed to talk to him (or at least leda?) back at the leda point

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:57 PM

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I’m doing it for Ranni

languid tiger Jul 31, 2024, 9:57 PM

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so if she's still there do that

atomic marsh Jul 31, 2024, 9:57 PM

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I mean I beat the game already

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and am in NG+

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I just got his perfect ending I guess

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 9:58 PM

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God I can’t decide

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Dress/flowy robes or armor

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:18 PM

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Oh for fucks same

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Red wolf why are you like this

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Ok I like the naginata a lot more

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Much faster

limpid peak Jul 31, 2024, 10:22 PM

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naginata is good

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:44 PM

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I’ll do mostly dex and min strength for now

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Faith can wait until I get enough levels

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Basically the Irl build lmao

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I can’t find any smithing stone s

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Oh my god

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I don’t wanna go back to limgrave to grind

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 10:52 PM

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the first bell beerring is in linera

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the lakes

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:54 PM

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I’m there

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The wizards keep shredding me

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My weapons aren’t upgraded because I’ve barely found any stones

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Went through a few caves

proven cloak Jul 31, 2024, 10:54 PM

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atomic marsh Oh, then no

yeah this (for some reason) means he wont invade

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 10:54 PM

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your gonna want stuf to help your defense

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like the magical resist spell

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that helps a lot

proven cloak Jul 31, 2024, 10:55 PM

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also its not summoning him afaik that causes it

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 10:55 PM

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i also recomend a blunt weapon for mines

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 10:56 PM

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Aye, or at least two-handing something

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:57 PM

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PATCHES DROPS A +7 SPEAR

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that’s good

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also is the correct thing to do not killing him

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Because he betrays you later iirc

umbral portal Jul 31, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Yes

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Be ause you can get the best armor in the game from.him

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If he survives

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 10:58 PM

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And I mean

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Wait what

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 10:58 PM

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It's Patches

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Wait WHAT

umbral portal Jul 31, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Did you kill him

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Yeah

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Presumably

umbral portal Jul 31, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Rip

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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What armor is it again?

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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I feel like I went against my morals

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Because you don’t kill the destitute

umbral portal Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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atomic plinth What armor is it again?

Bullgoat

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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patches also does upgrade his shop over time

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Ah, right

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Oh I feel stupid as hell

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Bullgoat's only good for specific ultratank builds so don't feel too bad

umbral portal Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Its the only armor with 100 poise

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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It's also ugly as sin

umbral portal Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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(Outside the DLC)

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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I just really don’t like patches he always pissed me off kinda

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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patches is very strange

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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I killed a homeless merchant damn

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No leftism for me ;-;

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 10:59 PM

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AND you killed the face of Soulsborne

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Shame

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:00 PM

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also if ur low on stones go get the bell bearings maybe

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 11:00 PM

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But yeah, don't sweat killing him

umbral portal Jul 31, 2024, 11:00 PM

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lip smack shame

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:00 PM

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if ur in caria you can go to the crystal tunnel and get infinite smithing stone 1s to play aroudn with what weapons you like

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 11:00 PM

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Aye

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I'd HIGHLY recommend beelining it for that bell bearing

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:01 PM

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modest berry also if ur low on stones go get the bell bearings maybe

That’s what I always do

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I’m used to grabbing blackflame incantations and making most of early game pretty easy

atomic plinth Jul 31, 2024, 11:03 PM

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God bless blackflame

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:04 PM

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Oh fuck the goddam wizards

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Crystal cave is a firing line

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I was killed by the fucking CRYSTALIANS?!

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god melee kinda fucking sucks ngl

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I’m level 40 with 35 dexterity

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:08 PM

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nawh the Rotten Crystalian Trio is just a real bastard of a fight

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:08 PM

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No no

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:08 PM

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what are you using against them

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:08 PM

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+7 spear

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:08 PM

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35 dex is honestly kinda high

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:08 PM

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I scrounged around limgrave for like

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:08 PM

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for 40

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:09 PM

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It’s the sorrseal

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:09 PM

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you want to use blunt weapons against them

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that too

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:09 PM

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Idk I best godrick like normal

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:09 PM

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i don't recomend using that

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:09 PM

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But I feel like I’m playing wrong

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The melee just.. doesn’t do the same damage as Blackflame

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Things feel so much harder

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:09 PM

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you want to stagger them

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what is your stats

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:10 PM

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Is it normal to have so few stones at the start?

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:10 PM

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yes

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:10 PM

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Without the seal it’s

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26 vigor, 12 mind, 14 endurance and 16 strength and 26 dex

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:11 PM

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ok that does make much more sense

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what is your strat when you do fight

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defnesively as well

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are you using any buffs?

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:11 PM

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they have like infinite resistence against anything sharp thats why the summon is even good against malenia

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:11 PM

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35% reisst to non blunt

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:13 PM

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Also wait +7 what kind of spear

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:13 PM

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i think the 15 percent extra taken damage is a bit rough early on

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:13 PM

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old brook Also wait +7 what kind of spear

patches spear

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:13 PM

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that is very low for level 40 ain't it

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i might be remembering wrong i guess

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but Caelid is a big "??????" in terms of balance and stones to be found

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:14 PM

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do rya's quest

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so you can buy shrimp

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shrimp is 15% physicla resist for 60 seconds for 600 souls each

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:15 PM

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also one of the few pleasant things left in the Lands Between

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:15 PM

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old brook that is very low for level 40 ain't it

It is?

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:15 PM

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yeah theres lots of non blackflame equalizers, spirits, bleed frost overleveling, various tears

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:16 PM

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I'm likely wrong, but it goes up to 25 so 8 feels.. uncertain

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:16 PM

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I wouldn’t know my oldest character is up to NG3

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:16 PM

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It's what Rogier gives ya

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:16 PM

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marika's tits you must be ungry

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:16 PM

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Once I get golden vow it’ll be better

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But.. crystallians

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Damn that’s so embarrassing

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:16 PM

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Nawh that fight is evil

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Do not feel shame

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:16 PM

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No not the rotten ones!

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:16 PM

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at that dex, id reccomend picking up the flail from outside stormgate? and bashing them into dust

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:16 PM

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The basic academy crystal cave ones

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:17 PM

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Oh misremembered crystal tunnel

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and hey it happens, low vigor life

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:17 PM

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modest berry at that dex, id reccomend picking up the flail from outside stormgate? and bashi...

Don’t flails kinda suck

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:17 PM

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They're FINE

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( they're not great )

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but literally anything works

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and it's Dex Based Strike Damage

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:17 PM

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they are not that great but spinning weapon is funny and also its an easy get for dex based blunt its serviceable

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:17 PM

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so it'll stagger 'em

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 11:17 PM

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modest berry marika's tits you must be ungry

my character has eaten nothing but crab for months

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:17 PM

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I have the nafknata

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:17 PM

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also has bleed

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:17 PM

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But I need stones

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:17 PM

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crab is one of the best items in the entire game handsdown

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even in the dlc

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 11:18 PM

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once i got to a comfortable level i blew all my runes on 600 crab

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:18 PM

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Honestly I’m so fucking amazed people beat the game with melee

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Because poking and blocking is just

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Hellish

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:18 PM

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I'm more amazed people can resist trying all these stupid spells out

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It's like being in a toy factory and going EH, NOT FER ME

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 11:18 PM

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i don't know where big got these industrial level shipments of crab from and i don't want to, just keep supplyin' the goods mate

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:18 PM

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my first run of the game was a powerstance katana build

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:18 PM

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I’ve played too many spellblades

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:18 PM

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i cann't block

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:18 PM

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(And I’m gonna do a spellblade here)

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:19 PM

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I haven't blocked since DS1 I've forgotten

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:19 PM

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if you want to get better at melee you gotta do more melee

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:19 PM

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block poking is a little boring yeah, im a two hander at heart

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:19 PM

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yeah not blocking in ds1 is just suffering

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wait are you trying to block twohanded with the spear scrible?

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or with a shield

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:20 PM

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Shield

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:20 PM

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ok

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:20 PM

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which shield

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:20 PM

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Bronze

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:20 PM

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I honestly think weapon blocking and shields in general needs buffs just to make things a bit more intresting

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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brass? thats probably the best in the game honestly but i think blocking against bosses isnt really the best strat ( even though it puts the final boss in a hole)

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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instead of there being only a few correct choices

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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I’m gonna get blackflame blade and stuff as soon as possible

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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lovingly caressing the deflecting hardtear

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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I’m a smart melee user not an unga bunga

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My main thing is

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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im not a fan of lackflame blade

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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I’m in Raya Lucaria

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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because it only lasts 7 seconds

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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Yeah

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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wish it could be a talisman or something, forgoing the guard counter bonus

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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I like Bloodflame

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But uh

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:21 PM

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use the incationion for magic resist

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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It’s been so long since I last did a basic build

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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bloodflame plus spinning weapon flail is funny

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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And since I touched my console

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That uh

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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the resistance spells are absolute goddamn gamechangers

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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hell, even a base game mechanic

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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I need to get good lmao

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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I don't know why people ignore 'em so often

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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people ignore a lot of the buff spells and items

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for i have no idea why

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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freezing weapon etc, id branch out but yeah theres tons of stuff to stack and use to get an advantage

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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'i'll just not take 60% of this damage for a minute' ok

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:22 PM

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crab is 20% resist for 60 seconds for no cost

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:23 PM

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Flame Protect Me is so cheap

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 11:23 PM

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playing the game once with int and a second with faith, i get it

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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Yeah, early game the way to do melee is "get your mins for a weapon, then stack vigor and a chunk of end"

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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can't live without golden vow anymore

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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the only reason you shouldnt use crab is if your using one of the barriers, flame give me str, or you have enough buffs you need to manage like golden vow and something else

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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Physical Damage +20% (15% in PvP).
Fire Damage +20% (15% in PvP).
Stamina Recovery Speed +5/s (11.1%)

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FGMS my beloved

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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vow+crab is admittedly free and solves a lot of problems

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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yeah

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extremely free

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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rallying cry

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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Weapon damage comes mostly from upgrades early

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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I refuse Golden Vow on a moral standpoint I can't align myself with the Order v-v

spring marlin Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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double so starting with opaline hardtear

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:24 PM

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and rallying cry is easy to ge to on the standard just take a field trip with the boss out to yellowstone

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:25 PM

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If you know what you're doing you can have a +7/8 weapon before godrick easy.

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:25 PM

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I still remember finding my first Stone 8 after being teleported outta Limgrave

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:25 PM

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And a +12 weapon fairly early in liurnia

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:25 PM

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but even godrick gets whooped by plus 0 bloodhounds fang

old brook Jul 31, 2024, 11:25 PM

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just 'WHAT DO YOU MEAN +24'

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:26 PM

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If you're using a somber weapon you can get +6 very early

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Which is like a +15 weapon roughly

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:26 PM

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Hmm

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I didn’t get the bell beating from the crystalians

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:27 PM

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Did you fight the ones under Raya?

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Because if so

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Wrong ones.

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:27 PM

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old brook I refuse Golden Vow on a moral standpoint I can't align myself with the Order v-...

Magic isn’t inherently fully tied to a deity anyone can cast if they learn

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:27 PM

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stone cove Wrong ones.

Fuck

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:27 PM

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https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Raya+Lucaria+Crystal+Tunnel

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:27 PM

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You want the mine visible on the map

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On the north east shores of the lake

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The tunnel you were in does have a good point though

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:28 PM

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I’m so disappointed with myself lmao

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:28 PM

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It's where you can pickup a stone club

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Which is one of the best weapons in the game

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:28 PM

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Unga bunga is not the way

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I want grace

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:28 PM

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What are you running?

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I mean milady is right there! (I'm the DLC)

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I think you mentioned cross nagatina?

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Which is a very good option

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:29 PM

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I did a new game

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I think I’ll do dex faith I know it sucks weapon wise

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But as long as I just get a dex weapon

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:30 PM

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vivid spire I think I’ll do dex faith I know it sucks weapon wise

It doesn't

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:30 PM

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I’ll be ok

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:30 PM

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nobles slender sword and estoc is so elegant 😌

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:30 PM

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I'm playing Dex/Faith right now

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:30 PM

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winged scythe is pretty elegant you could go get it its a great dex fth

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:30 PM

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It's only limited if you're looking for unique weapons

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And it's still got bangers like the Godslayer Greatsword, Zweihander etc

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:31 PM

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blade of calling is aight but it is cool

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:31 PM

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I like blade of calling

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But point is

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I’m only lvl 40 rn

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:32 PM

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Just the fact you can keen infuse stuff then buff it makes dex/faith very good

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:32 PM

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I need to level vigor and dex and then faith

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:32 PM

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You need to level vigor

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:32 PM

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are you still using the soreseal, i feel your current vigor might serve you better if not

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:32 PM

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Dex won't do anything until your weapon is in the high teens

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:33 PM

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sorry if i sound like a backseater btw

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:33 PM

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Soreseal works until you have about 37 vigor, I personally hold that it's worthwhile till around level 80

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:33 PM

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modest berry are you still using the soreseal, i feel your current vigor might serve you bett...

I am not

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:34 PM

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Which is when you should be able to hit 40 vigor, 25 end, whatever stat mins your weapon of choice needs

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:34 PM

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I only have 26 vigor rn

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Level 45

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:34 PM

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Yeah that's your problem

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:34 PM

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I really should have planned this better ngl

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:34 PM

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Have you killed greyroll yet?

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:34 PM

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theres two talismans i can think of that would be pretty good to get right now

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turtle is good

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as it the shield talisman

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:35 PM

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If you have a weapon with bleed on it you can just stab greyroll to death

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Pop a Golden fowl before she dies and that's 100k runes

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Then go make the Bloodhound step night cav commit suicide, that's another 50k

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:36 PM

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stone cove Have you killed greyroll yet?

Yes

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:36 PM

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you can also make her kid jump off the bridge near the beast sanctum

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:36 PM

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I feel like something’s off ngl

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I normally know exactly what to grab for my caster builds

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I’m kinda floundering for this

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:36 PM

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you need to find a weapon you like

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spells go boom at their target and they die

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:37 PM

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That is by far the biggest part

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:37 PM

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weapons you need to find something comfortable

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:37 PM

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I like the black knife.. and the nox sword..

stone cove Jul 31, 2024, 11:37 PM

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Also get a good Shield

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:37 PM

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do you want a list of some great dex faith items and locations?

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:37 PM

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Vykes spear is fun

vivid spire Jul 31, 2024, 11:37 PM

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modest berry do you want a list of some great dex faith items and locations?

Yes please

stoic sleet Jul 31, 2024, 11:44 PM

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black knife is aces

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i carry one even though i'm Str/Fai because ripping 10% of a boss's health off instantly is just, like, that good

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:51 PM

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vivid spire Yes please

dex crystal tear -Can be found at the top of a small island at Liurnia of the Lakes. Southwest of Boilprawn Shack.
faith crystal tear- North of the Demi-Human Forest Ruins.
winged scythe, after fighting some pages on the weeping penninsula in the tombsward ruins
golden vow- useful spell off of a knight on a cliff near godricks castle above the deathstouched catacombs (
flame grant me strength - behind fort gael in caelid between two chariots ( i think it stacks with vow)

treespear- in a carriage guarded by a troll on a collapsed bridge from the liurnia highway site of grace ( it is a great spear but it its got crazy dexfth scaling)

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heres some early-ish good stuff that would help a dexfth run or for those two buffs, pretty much any melee based run

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also the jumping attack claw talisman from stormveil is a favorite of mine

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:53 PM

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modest berry dex crystal tear -Can be found at the top of a small island at Liurnia of the La...

there is the smaller erdtree guardian one but it would take some farming

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spiked cracked tear if you like charged attacks - near the minor erdtree in mistwood

stoic sleet Jul 31, 2024, 11:55 PM

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i think the stormhill knight drops the ash of war version of golden vow

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the spell version is from uh

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:55 PM

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yah you can put the ash of war golden vow on a dagger in your back pocket, use it and put it away and keep the buff instead of going for the one in gelmir

warped quest Jul 31, 2024, 11:55 PM

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i kinda recomend shrimp over the ash of war in some ways

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mainly due to the duration

modest berry Jul 31, 2024, 11:59 PM

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modest berry dex crystal tear -Can be found at the top of a small island at Liurnia of the La...

with both of those tears on during a fight you have like +10 in both stats, so you can not worry as much about leveling those stats right now and go vigor, then pick up the slack later

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theres also a page spirit ash in liurnia if you want to fight with one as an ally, maybe take some pressure off while you get more comfy with mostly melee fighting

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most of these are just good for any melee build

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lighting, flame art infusions on any weapon that doesnt have faith scaling

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inquistors girandole? is dex faith as well godskin peeler

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:02 AM

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the erdrtee dagger is raelly good use to on a

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flame art scnatation

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 12:02 AM

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old brook I refuse Golden Vow on a moral standpoint I can't align myself with the Order v-...

I'm the same with the Mohg and Morgott shackles tbh I get it

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:02 AM

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anyways hope any of this helps

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:03 AM

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I’m realizing how shitty I specced my stats

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Marionettes almost stunlocked me

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:03 AM

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modest berry anyways hope any of this helps

It does thank you

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:06 AM

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armor does matter for defense

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:06 AM

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modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:06 AM

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that might be your poise and not your stats

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:07 AM

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yeah poise is also silly

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nothing below 51 matters

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:07 AM

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bullgoat talisman is also good, can get you above 51 with still lightroll

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:08 AM

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Are these good stats

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Or did I mess up

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Still haven’t fought rennala yet

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:08 AM

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you should get to 12 faith at minum

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and go get the defensive buff spells from corybn

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the magic one helps in raya a lot

covert schooner Aug 1, 2024, 12:09 AM

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Is nice but idk I don’t think it’s 100% necessary

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Your stats are alright but you might want to slow down on vigor and focus on stamina

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:10 AM

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My damage just

covert schooner Aug 1, 2024, 12:10 AM

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Dex builds attack a lot, I imagine you run out of stam a lot

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:10 AM

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Idk I can’t figure out why I’m dying to basic bosses

covert schooner Aug 1, 2024, 12:10 AM

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Are you using a Dec scaling weapon

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*dex

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:10 AM

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i would say in elden ring, messing up is whatever since overleveling is part of a soft sliding difficulty, but yeah run around pick up some stuff to help

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:11 AM

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what is your equipment besides your weapon?

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:11 AM

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Spear, using the iron set, finger seal and bronze shield

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:11 AM

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talismans?

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:11 AM

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Turtle and two fingers

covert schooner Aug 1, 2024, 12:12 AM

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What are you using the seal for

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:13 AM

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Casting spells occasionally

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Buffs

covert schooner Aug 1, 2024, 12:13 AM

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Mhm

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What buffs only require 11 faith

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:13 AM

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Uhhh

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I don’t remember

frail sky Aug 1, 2024, 12:14 AM

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covert schooner What buffs only require 11 faith

(16 with the talisman)

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:14 AM

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Is it like a skill issue?

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Maybe I’m too used to ranged spells

frozen olive Aug 1, 2024, 12:14 AM

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What boss were you fighting by the way

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:14 AM

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you are prbally not used to melee combat

covert schooner Aug 1, 2024, 12:15 AM

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OH

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:15 AM

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the dying to basic bosses might just be an acclimation to melee fighting thing

covert schooner Aug 1, 2024, 12:15 AM

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Yeah

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Yeah you just gotta learn the timing

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:15 AM

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thats why its important o find a comfortable weapon vs a strong weapo

covert schooner Aug 1, 2024, 12:15 AM

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A melee dodge build will die the first time they fight a boss almost guaranteed as well, is something to keep in mind,

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:15 AM

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doesnt matter if its the strongest weapon in the game if it feels like your fighting the weapo ntoo

covert schooner Aug 1, 2024, 12:15 AM

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Because you have to learn the bosses timing

frozen olive Aug 1, 2024, 12:15 AM

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Dying is normal

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Every boss has unique timings

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Keep fighting until you win basically, adjust setup as necessary

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:17 AM

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the spear you're using , is it infused

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:18 AM

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Yes

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Holy infusion

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Sacred blade

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:22 AM

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id keen infuse it for scaling, since your faith isnt that high yet and then you can use greases, but yeah run around gather some stuff,, buff yourself up a bunch before a fight, and if theres still some trouble, it might just be a time thing

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:23 AM

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yeah that and so many things resist holy

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:25 AM

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I GOT KILLED BY AN ERDTREE AVATAR

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oh my good

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This is so fucking embarrassing

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200 hours

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:28 AM

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they are pretty hard honestly

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their laser cannons

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not easy to dodge

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and they do hit hard

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:28 AM

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An invader appeared

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My damage sucks..

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Oh my god what happened to me

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I was doing really good last month

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:29 AM

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your rsuty and you don't play melee much thats pretty much it

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:30 AM

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https://eldenring.tclark.io/

Elden Ring Weapon Calculator

ELDEN RING weapon attack calculator updated for Shadow of the Erdtree, ELDEN RING Reforged, and The Convergence Mod

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heres a good tool to see like, what weapon set ups with what stats would yield what damage

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so like for instance, sacred spear plus 7 at your stats is 266, , but like for instance, with dex knot and faith knot and the treespear +7 the damage would be 361, and with golden vow and flame grant me strength it would be like +35 percent to 487, and then jumping attack with claw talisman boosts that by another 15 percent, this is how melee stuff and buff stacking can get crazy ( my math might be off i digress)

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anyways good luck im yappiing

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:40 AM

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Oh my hod

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The caria manor hands butchered me

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I’m so tired of this now

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I need to get to the mohg farm

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:41 AM

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you need to use your head

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you can't just nuke everything away now

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:41 AM

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do you have pyromancies for the hands it just trivializes them

signal harness Aug 1, 2024, 12:41 AM

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You can use pretty much any fire magic for the hands yeah

old brook Aug 1, 2024, 12:41 AM

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Any fire at all

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Y'can torch the suckers

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:42 AM

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you can stop drop and roll stunlock them

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:42 AM

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flaming strike is really good against them

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:42 AM

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modest berry do you have pyromancies for the hands it just trivializes them

I have fireball

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I’m gonna take a break I’ve been playing for six hours

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:42 AM

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come back with fresh eyes hopefully

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:43 AM

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I’m used to like

stoic sleet Aug 1, 2024, 12:43 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9fKePLDcWY

YouTube

ChaseTheBro

Elden Ring; Light Greatswords Received A Massive Buff

The light greatsword weapon class received a much needed buff to its poise damage. Now it is definitely one of my favorite weapon classes

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vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:43 AM

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Speed running to grab shit

stoic sleet Aug 1, 2024, 12:43 AM

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LGS poise damage buffs apparently pretty substantial

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:43 AM

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And immediately going to mohgwyn

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To farm

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And dumping points into faith and seeing results

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Like if I do it right I can get to level 60 within a few hours

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Hey wait it’s a metaphor for my own physical prowess in real life

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I’m not used to this at all

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So I need to practice (and get a weapon I like)

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:48 AM

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i think the single best thing to do is find a weapon you like yeah

frozen olive Aug 1, 2024, 12:49 AM

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I'm a greatsword enjoyer so melee is something i have decent practice with

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I'm used to slow attacks though

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:49 AM

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you can give the best black smith in the world the best wrench in the world but they still can't do much with it

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 12:49 AM

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I want reach and speed

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:49 AM

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they need a hammer not a wrench

frozen olive Aug 1, 2024, 12:49 AM

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But yeah finding a comfy weapon is preem

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Spears can be nice

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I mostly truck with Greatswords and colossal swords though

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For my next Playthrough i'm actually using a hammer, fists, spear and shield

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:53 AM

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im gonna do magic in my next run

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but i did sorta plan out some challange runs

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one is probally gonna be dual strightswords

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the other im not sure

frozen olive Aug 1, 2024, 12:55 AM

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I played Int Fai in my first run and Fai Str for my dlc run

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 12:56 AM

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i realized just now i never got phantom slash so i went and got it and the noble next to the nights cav droped their estoc!

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 12:56 AM

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Invader Bernahl is such bs

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I'm getting slammed

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:(

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 12:57 AM

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thats an insane drop

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the etoc is also pretty good

frozen olive Aug 1, 2024, 12:57 AM

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My Int Fai char who can cast almost any magic in the game

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And my Fai Str pyromancer from the DLC (spoilered for DLC armor and weapon)

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 12:59 AM

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had to revert to the oldest trick in the book: Spam my AoW

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Cause Bernie does not have enough poise for my bs

frozen olive Aug 1, 2024, 1:03 AM

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In heaven and earth, i alone am the Lions Claw'd one

spring marlin Aug 1, 2024, 1:06 AM

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giant hunt giant hunt giant hunt giant hunt

frozen olive Aug 1, 2024, 1:07 AM

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frozen olive And my Fai Str pyromancer from the DLC (spoilered for DLC armor and weapon)

This build has a spear and a seal equipped as well btw

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I can do Sword and seal for the pyro combo, or do Spear and Shield for the poke strat

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 1:14 AM

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How the fuck did someone get a message up there

languid tiger Aug 1, 2024, 1:19 AM

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do spear + sword

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 1:20 AM

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atomic plinth How the fuck did someone get a message up there

visions of message...

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 1:22 AM

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Hmm

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I'm gonna start over

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Do confessor for better stats

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Then immediately nab black flame and cross naginata

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Goal: Black Knife

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Yet another pyromancer build? Yes.

limpid peak Aug 1, 2024, 1:23 AM

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that seems extreme at your level

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 1:23 AM

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I did get the bell bearing for smithing stones

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Maybe I don't need to start over

limpid peak Aug 1, 2024, 1:24 AM

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I think starting class matters for like, PVP players or anyone trying to achieve a desired build very quickly

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but after a while into a run, the work you're gonna have to do again makes it not worth it to me

frozen olive Aug 1, 2024, 1:25 AM

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Black knife is goated

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 1:26 AM

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Maybe I can do this once I get rennala

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do some respeccing

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or maybe I just need to grind?

limpid peak Aug 1, 2024, 1:26 AM

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depends how many levels are wasted for your build

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 1:26 AM

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I'm lvl 45 rn

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and things are going poorly

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27 vigor

limpid peak Aug 1, 2024, 1:29 AM

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I think things will get better with some time and effort to get used to melee again

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 1:37 AM

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Lmao the funniest shit just happened

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Got summoned to help with Godskin Apostle, guessing the host just wanted someone to hold aggro while they pelted him with spells

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And the other guy I was summoned with puts the boss to sleep

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Host charges up a Comet Azur

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AND HE'S LIKE A PIXEL OUT OF RANGE OF THE BOSS

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HE FUCKING MISSED A COMPLETELY STATIONARY TARGET LMFAO

obtuse halo Aug 1, 2024, 3:16 AM

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I've done the run to black knife where I fight the assassin holding it at like level 30 from killing Greyoll and nothing else

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it's a goof

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 3:16 AM

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How

obtuse halo Aug 1, 2024, 3:17 AM

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honestly not that hard once you understand the Black Knife moveset - there's a very consistent punish window on their big jumping ground-stab attack

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you can even backstab critical them

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 3:17 AM

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jane did a bow only run you kinda have to be really good at learning timing

obtuse halo Aug 1, 2024, 3:18 AM

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that's my actual advice for Black Knives - keep your distance and focus on dodging until they do their big jump attack, then roll behind and go for a backstab.

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This works on every black knife except Alecto

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(it's still possible on Alecto, but her destined death sphere hitbox on the ground-stab makes going for a backstab way more dangerous and way less free than it normally is)

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 3:19 AM

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Oh

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I wish I was as patient as you

obtuse halo Aug 1, 2024, 3:20 AM

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for a slightly less patient strategy, try grabbing the icerind hatchet on your way there and spamming hoarfrost stomp at her. They're vulnerable to frost

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 3:24 AM

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Oh ok!

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 3:24 AM

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Y'all know any weapons that'd look good with this fit?

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 3:25 AM

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I mostly need to fix my build

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 3:25 AM

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Besides banished knight sword/halberd, those are obvious

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 3:25 AM

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atomic plinth Y'all know any weapons that'd look good with this fit?

Noble sword

grave plinth Aug 1, 2024, 3:29 AM

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atomic plinth Y'all know any weapons that'd look good with this fit?

Damn you managed to farm the altered banished knight chestpiece

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How’d you get that

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 3:29 AM

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grave plinth Damn you managed to farm the altered banished knight chestpiece

Castle Sol

grave plinth Aug 1, 2024, 3:29 AM

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The spectral guy by the elevator?

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Also the Fire Monk Mace or Curved Sword would probably work well with that fit

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 3:31 AM

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True

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Shame the CGS is Not Very Good

grave plinth Aug 1, 2024, 3:31 AM

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Maybe Great Epee or Godskin Stitcher

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 3:32 AM

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man banished knight chest is the only thing i think bloodhound helm looks good with its a shame i love hounskulls but its got like,, gamer neck

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 3:32 AM

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so one of my challnge runs im planning that ive done in the other games is a merchant only run and a loot only run

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the bloodhound set is one of the better ones i can get fashion wise in the loot only run

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 3:33 AM

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atomic plinth Y'all know any weapons that'd look good with this fit?

dragonscale blade?

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 3:33 AM

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i still am not sure what i want to do gearwise for either run

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 3:33 AM

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only buying from merchants?

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 3:34 AM

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im pretty open to ideas for stuff i can only buy and stuff i can only loot form enemies

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yeah

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the exceptions are key items and crafting and npc gifts

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 3:34 AM

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oooo

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 3:35 AM

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ive always wanted to do a randomizer where you have to use what you pick up it sounds so silly fun, and forces me to use stuff ive might never.

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 3:35 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3QTTXZ_8zA

YouTube

Noah Caldwell-Gervais

Returning to Elden Ring for Shadow of the Erdtree

This full-spoiler video essay and critique of Elden Ring's Shadow of the Erdtree DLC delves deep into how the game makes a puzzle out of all its interactive elements. It covers lore, landscape, and many other points of interest across the Land of Shadow.

Audio editing by Nate Greene.

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If you enjoyed th...

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noah caldwell SotE video

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 3:35 AM

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modest berry ive always wanted to do a randomizer where you have to use what you pick up it s...

yeah thats kinda why i like these runs

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except i still get to chose

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i did these runs in ds1 and ds2

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 3:35 AM

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I shall respect his wishes and allow the boss to solo him

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 3:35 AM

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i think its more intresting to give you a vague but broad restriction

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i didn't do the merchant only rule in ds1

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i should give it a try sometime though

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elden ring does have arule against boss loot

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just because it would trivalize it

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just go get blaidd to smash down bloodhound for the sword and your golden

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i will also make an exception for the noskill ash of war

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 4:32 AM

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God I wish covenants were a thing in this game

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 4:40 AM

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They are

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but it's based on which wife you pick

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:41 AM

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Hello yes it's me

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:42 AM

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Eeey Scrble!

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:42 AM

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For personal reasons I cannot state my favorite

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Everyone is valid

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:42 AM

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Scrbs

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i think you need better hobbies

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:42 AM

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Yeah true

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I tried using a rapier today

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:42 AM

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Like, less lethal ones

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:43 AM

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It.. it's fine?

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 4:43 AM

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roundtable hold (Gideon is my wife)

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:43 AM

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Rapiers really shine if you lean into the counter damage

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:43 AM

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I struggle to parry

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:43 AM

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Nono, that's not counter damage.

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Counter damage is it's own thing

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:43 AM

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proven cloak roundtable hold (Gideon is my wife)

Based

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Oh

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:43 AM

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if your weapon does Piercing damage, if you hit someone during their animation/recovery

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you do More Dasmage.

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:44 AM

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Ohh ok

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:44 AM

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More correctly, if the attack does pierce damage

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:44 AM

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So it incentives hitting a lot

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:44 AM

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and Rapiers are all pierce damage attacks

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so you slap on a good shield, grab the spear talisman (Which makes counter attacks hit even harder)

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and shiv people in the guts when they try and hit you

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(Rapiers can attack while blocking)

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:44 AM

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Oh that's why antspur is for the final boss

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I see

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:45 AM

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I never actually recommended antspur for the final boss in my guide, lol

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Not sure where you got that bit from

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I'm actually thinking i might start up a fresh run soon and do a str character, same "Streamed guide to getting rolling" etc

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:45 AM

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Most of the other guides I saw recommended antspur for the rot buildup

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:45 AM

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Oh, my soloution to rot was way simpler

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HEfty Rot Pot.

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1 hefty rot pot rots him in phase 1.

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2 hefty rot pots rot him in phase 2.

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ALso it's the super-rot that does 29% max hp

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unlike the antspur version which is much weaker

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Scarlet Rot on weapons and the Rot Pot inflict (0.18% Max HP) + 15 per second for 90 seconds, for a total of 16.2% Max HP + 1350 damage over its full duration.
Scarlet Rot on Hefty Rot Pot, Rotten Breath, Ekzykes's Decay, Rotten Butterflies and Scarlet Aeonia inflict (0.33% Max HP) + 13 per second for 90 seconds, for a total of 29.7% Max HP + 1170 damage over its full duration.

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:46 AM

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I'll try that then

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Once I reach the dlc

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I started a new character yesterday

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:47 AM

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Yes, i rember

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You also changed your avatar here, which is the really rude thing

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HOW DARE

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:47 AM

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Wait what

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That's a bad thing?

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Oh shit I'm sorry

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:47 AM

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I'm teasing 🙂

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I'm a very visual person so i tend to rember people through a ocmbo of avatar AND name

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:48 AM

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Oh

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:48 AM

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And your avatar has changed color schemes entirely etc so it's like "Wait, is this the same person!?". My autistic brain XD

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:48 AM

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This is kinda funny ngl

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action-rpg/elden-ring-loreheads-discover-shadow-of-the-erdtrees-rellana-and-messmer-might-have-been-married-all-along-which-could-explain-the-twin-moon-knights-fancy-new-decoration/

gamesradar

Elden Ring loreheads discover Shadow of the Erdtree's Rellana and M...

Rellana has a new chair, and maybe a husband too

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I tried like

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A cosplay build

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But I quickly found that warpick sucks

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I've settled for spear

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:49 AM

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Wartpick is also a pierce damage weapon

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:49 AM

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It just feels too short

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:49 AM

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Yeah, reach is a real thing

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And it's reahc is pretty bad iirc

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If by warpick you mean the Pickaxe, it's the 4th shortest Greathammer.

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Meanwhile, good ol Large Club is the 3rd longest.

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and you can g et it immediately

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Ah, Large Club. Our gudiing THUMP THUMP SMASH BANG

frail sky Aug 1, 2024, 4:50 AM

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vivid spire This is kinda funny ngl https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action-rpg/elden-ring-...

...a chair?

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 4:51 AM

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Also the sword textures

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It most likely means nothing but it's funny ngl

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:51 AM

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Oh, wait, Warpick is an entirely idfferent thing , and it's a middle of the road on reach hamer.

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But yeah, it's reach is also pretty tiny

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Club and STone club do a lot better again because well

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better reach

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 4:52 AM

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warpick does unlike the other 2 i think get counter counter damage

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:52 AM

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Yeah, but Reach makes getting counter dmage easier, and if you're using a hammer, i'd rather just well

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 4:52 AM

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frail sky ...a chair?

I mean you expect her to stand all night

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 4:53 AM

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Use the club/stone club and break someone's kneecaps

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 4:53 AM

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if I had a whole castle I'd spare a chair ngl

warped quest Aug 1, 2024, 4:53 AM

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the lucerene is a kinda wierd weapon

frail sky Aug 1, 2024, 4:55 AM

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proven cloak I mean you expect her to stand all night

I mean fair

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It feels like an odd detail to add, though I think they did something similar with adding more trees to faron keep in ds3?

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 4:57 AM

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vivid spire This is kinda funny ngl https://www.gamesradar.com/games/action-rpg/elden-ring-...

i figured she had a thing for him, not explicit but heavily alluded to but the swords description says that the paired blades are the only place that moon and fire were ever together? so he either rejected her and gave the sword back when she joined his army to chase him, or it was unrequited unspoken pining

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:01 AM

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Yuri

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 5:04 AM

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ough

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Cool knight...

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:04 AM

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That fucks ngl

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Helmet is kinda

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Dinky

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:04 AM

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frail sky It feels like an odd detail to add, though I think they did something similar wi...

The chair is a reference to The castle in Leyendell

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With all the chairs in a round

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However instead of all the nobles having chairs it's just her

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By herself to stare at he moon

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 5:05 AM

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I think its more the moongazing pond with Loretta

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helps you tell shes a Carian

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I've seen some people miss it lol

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:05 AM

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That's what I meant

frail sky Aug 1, 2024, 5:05 AM

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vivid spire Yuri

I feel like het is one of the few things that is not, too, yuri

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 5:06 AM

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vivid spire Dinky

Dinky?

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:08 AM

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A man and a woman can be lesbians

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 5:10 AM

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best Yuri in the dlc is Scadutree and Erdtree

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:11 AM

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frail sky I feel like het is one of the few things that is not, too, yuri

This too, is not yuri

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 5:11 AM

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proven cloak best Yuri in the dlc is Scadutree and Erdtree

||False, the best Yuri is Count Ymir's son||

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 5:12 AM

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ooooo true

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||you simply got to hand it to him||

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 5:12 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-square-pants-spongebob-cool-finger-guns-you-got-it-gif-3561703

Tenor

finger guns

▶ Play video

languid tiger Aug 1, 2024, 5:12 AM

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frail sky I feel like het is one of the few things that is not, too, yuri

counterpoint: jesse and james from pokemon

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 5:13 AM

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Jesse and James transcend mortal concepts such as yuri

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:13 AM

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Perhaps all things are yuri

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 5:13 AM

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They are the primordial concept of Queer

languid tiger Aug 1, 2024, 5:13 AM

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fair

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 5:13 AM

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heresy is not native to this world, all things can be Yuri

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:13 AM

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The moon sure is bright tonight

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But who is she shining for

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Obvious answer: the earth and moon are yuri

languid tiger Aug 1, 2024, 5:14 AM

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team rocket is the kind of partnership all the world can aspire to

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:15 AM

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Lannessax and Vyke are actually not yuri

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But a secret third thing

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Dragons are weird

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:17 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/caim-drakengard-reaction-gif-12420806079259298282

Tenor

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:18 AM

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Is that final fantasy

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:25 AM

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drakengard

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:28 AM

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What does that have to do with dragons

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Isn’t Nier like

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:28 AM

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draken

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:28 AM

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Medieval to automata

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Oh

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:28 AM

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drakengard 1-3 has you ride dragons

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they're sentient

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also that trilogy is fucked up

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 5:30 AM

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Oh god

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I got summoned to help a very low level player with that one black knife in Limgrave

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The poor thing didn't stand a chance

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Curbstomped that poor woman into nothing

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Me and the other endgame player that got summoned just mulched her

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:33 AM

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Drakengard 1 explicitly has the main protag get into a romantic relationship with a dragon

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:33 AM

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Based?!!!

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Oh wait it’s Nier though

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So it ends badly right

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:34 AM

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No its Drakengard

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:34 AM

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yoko taro video game universe

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:34 AM

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Yes it is that one prequel game to the FFXIV raid

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:34 AM

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lmaao

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:35 AM

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Seeing the typing momentarily stop filled me with power

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:35 AM

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funny to imagine that the existential horrors that haunt the nier universe just get trounced when facing the warrior of light

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:36 AM

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WoL doesn't even know what the fuck is going on

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:36 AM

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what

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They.. cross over?!?!

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:36 AM

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nier automata ffxiv crossover

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:37 AM

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Yeah the raid series for Shadowbringers is the Canon end to the Nier games

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And Drakengard

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:37 AM

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but psyche it was actually a nier crossover too

languid tiger Aug 1, 2024, 5:37 AM

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well

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:37 AM

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Thus isn't a joke

languid tiger Aug 1, 2024, 5:37 AM

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that's complicated

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it's one of the endings, they're all canon

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:37 AM

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Its obviously complicated but my summation isn't wrong

languid tiger Aug 1, 2024, 5:37 AM

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ye

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:37 AM

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atomic marsh WoL doesn't even know what the fuck is going on

the equivalent of running over a slasher movie villain while backing up and out of a desolate Denny's driveway

languid tiger Aug 1, 2024, 5:38 AM

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nier automata is the result of a what-if bad ending from nier, which is itself the result of a shitpost bad ending from drakengard...2?

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or was it 3?

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but neither of those cement their result as the sole canon ending to their respective game

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:39 AM

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More akin to like if Jason Vorhees was canonically killed in a cameo appearance in John Wick 2

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:39 AM

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iirc the "get killed by jets" ending of 1 leads to nier

languid tiger Aug 1, 2024, 5:39 AM

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oh wait it's 1?

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I could've sworn it was 2

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damn

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egg on my face

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:39 AM

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corpse of the grotesque queen leads to the disease that afflicts humanity in nier

languid tiger Aug 1, 2024, 5:39 AM

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got my esoteric yoko taro lore wrong

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:40 AM

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atomic marsh More akin to like if Jason Vorhees was canonically killed in a cameo appearance ...

you love to see it

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:41 AM

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atomic marsh Drakengard 1 explicitly has the main protag get into a romantic relationship wit...

Based ngl

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:41 AM

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feral linden iirc the "get killed by jets" ending of 1 leads to nier

J-jets?!

atomic marsh Aug 1, 2024, 5:42 AM

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Drakengard 1 is a medieval fantasy game that's ending takes place in Tokyo

feral linden Aug 1, 2024, 5:42 AM

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jet planes

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:42 AM

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I see

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 5:48 AM

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Oh hey you can see the Chapel of Anticipation from the First Step, that's cool

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Oh my fucking god 😭

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I got summoned to help with the Blackgaol Knight

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We were all spellcasters

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There was so much magic spam holy shit

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We bullied the SHIT out of that poor dude, oh god

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There were so many projectiles getting thrown around

vivid spire Aug 1, 2024, 5:54 AM

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Lmao

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 5:56 AM

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I mean, Blackgoal has it coming

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Noobtrap ass guy

proven cloak Aug 1, 2024, 6:01 AM

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sick fit tho

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I gotta respect it

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 6:46 AM

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Oh god, I was with a host and we got invaded by a vigor checker

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The host unfortunately did not pass

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...or, well, he did pass

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Passed away

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We ended up throwing fireballs and rocks and shit at another invader when we had a vantage point, was fun

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 6:48 AM

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hmm

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75% incantation scaling

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Means that probably, utilizing +damage type incantations are better than just setting affinity.

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In exchange, I have to re-up them every 90 secs

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So 1-2 times during a standard boss fight

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It also doesn't scale the ash of war, I think?

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Not sure on that one

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 6:58 AM

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||Got summoned for the Leda fight||

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Shit was FUN

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10/10

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And I got a cool 30k for my trouble

atomic plinth Aug 1, 2024, 7:38 AM

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Fuckin dumbass lmfaoooooooo

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 7:40 AM

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left willow Means that probably, utilizing +damage type incantations are better than just se...

Uhhh...No. >.>

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At 80 faith with Erd tree seal you get like... 250ish damage out of electric blade

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 7:40 AM

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Oh? Did I miss a step on calculating?

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 7:40 AM

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but it doesnt really compare to flame art

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Like it does pull ahead if it's High base physical AND stacking a high incant buff ontop of that

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but that stresses your build immensly

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For example, right now:

80 dex/80 faith keen milady = 579 AR two handed, before buff
80 dex/80 faith Flame Art Milady = 696 AR two handed, 405 of which is fire (which most things in the game are weak too to boo

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Right now in practical terms, my build can use Electric Blade to get an extra 210 lighting AR damage - but that's a 70 dex, 60 faith build, with my head slot and a talisman s lot dedicted to boosting my dex. and i;m usually stacking Old Lord's talisman ontop of that to get the duration increase (Which is a big deal)

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Compare to just going like... 80 faith, 17 dex Milady with Flame Art, you have 635 AR, and saved yourself 70 levels to put like... anywhere else. Endurance, FP etc.

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 7:46 AM

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What's your current Incant Scaling from your favored seal?

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Wait, that doesn't help, ignore me

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 7:47 AM

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It only makes sense for me to be using electric blade because i'm a full on spellblade build and casting is a compliment to my primary stratergy whcih is "I stab you in the face"

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@left willow It's still worth mentioning. Currently, it's 291 using Godslayer Seal, which is the highest incant scaling i can get at 60 faith

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At 80 faith, Erdtree seal takefs over and gives you 353 incant scaling

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which is 264 lighting damage on your weapon, or holy if you meet the requiermetns for Sacred Blade (WHY DOES IT NEED 13 INT YOU JERKS)

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 7:49 AM

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stone cove <@257973285390778378> It's still worth mentioning. Currently, it's 291 using God...

Odd, that should be +210 AR, unless something something is weird?

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 7:49 AM

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Right now in practical terms, my build can use Electric Blade to get an extra 210 lighting AR damage - but that's a 70 dex, 60 faith build, with my head slot and a talisman s lot dedicted to boosting my dex. and i;m usually stacking Old Lord's talisman ontop of that to get the duration increase (Which is a big deal)

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 7:49 AM

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Yes

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 7:50 AM

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Then why's that odd? It matches exactly

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 7:50 AM

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Versus how much of just switching to Holy/Lightning/Fire?

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 7:50 AM

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80 faith gives you 460 somethign fire damage as a Flame Art milady

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you'll get even better results with stuff like a Fire Knight's Greatsword

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 7:51 AM

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460 isn't the question, it's the gains

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 7:53 AM

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The otehr thing that mmakes this complicated is how fast is your weapon?

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Weapon buffs are exptneitallly better on fast weapons that multihit

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 7:53 AM

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Ah

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 7:53 AM

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Twinblades are the shining example

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 7:53 AM

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DLAs

stone cove Aug 1, 2024, 7:53 AM

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Man, i dont even know iwth DLA

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I havent played with that weapon enough

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it's not what i'd call fast?

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and can it even be buffed?

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I dont thin ktehy can be be buffed

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Yep, Cannot be buffed

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Stick poison on them, add in The Poisoin Flower Blooms twice and rider kick people out of existance

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thats' my advice <.<

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 7:55 AM

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gfdi

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That's all of my work I was doing wasted :(

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 7:59 AM

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stone cove it's not what i'd call fast?

the light attacks are crazy, imo

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I think a little slower than twinblades, but faster than any other weapon I've used

median rock Aug 1, 2024, 8:00 AM

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jesus. five minute fight with the ||first furnace golem|| in dlc, lol. dealing ~200 damage per hit on the legs, had to deal 2 ripostes. i think i used raptor of the mists upwards of 40 times in that fight judging by my fp consumed

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but hey got his drop so i can go back to playing the game

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honestly, raptor of the mists is a SUPER consistent (but rather slow) way to juke his attacks. way easier than trying to perfectly time rolls or something

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 8:03 AM

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Interesting!

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STARS OF RUIN was my solution as an Astrologer

median rock Aug 1, 2024, 8:04 AM

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once you know the timing it jukes both one foot stomp and two foot jump, and is quick enough to easily juke the 3 stomp in a row combo. i just rolled away from the few hand sweeps but you dont get those when at his feet

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yeah, that sounds about right

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||according to google, the only thing that affects stance break is DAMAGE done, NOT poise dealt. so if you can nova him, he'll die quick||

left willow Aug 1, 2024, 8:05 AM

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median rock ||according to google, the only thing that affects stance break is DAMAGE done, ...

That... doesn't sound right?

median rock Aug 1, 2024, 8:05 AM

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||supposedly shard spiral is also insane for sorceries, or pest threads for incants. because both will consistently multi-hit pretty nasty style on the legs||

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yeah, it's weird. but apparently true

modest berry Aug 1, 2024, 8:05 AM

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median rock honestly, raptor of the mists is a SUPER consistent (but rather slow) way to juk...

raptor is super useful in the dlc

median rock Aug 1, 2024, 8:05 AM

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i roughly counted it myself and the damage numbers seemed to line up with what people were saying, and taking a LONG ass break didnt reset poise

#Elden Ring (DLC hype room)