at those stats flame art has pretty high stats highest for a weapon that can get an ash change
#Elden Ring (DLC hype room)
mighty warren
Its why im trying to stick to flame art weapons yeah
that and just my enjoyment of flame skewer
warped quest
even though it only lasts 30 seconds flame give me str and fireknight armor and that one helm would boost that a lot
atomic marsh
I also used Str+Faith
but I will admit that basically 120 hours of my 127 hour playtime was spent with the Guts Greatsword
mighty warren
Hm
might do something stupid
My arcane really isnt doing anything for me, so if i just throw that into my dex i dont feel like im fuckin' up by picking dex focused gear
real shadow
atomic plinth
Check it out, I'm Black Hand Kamui
real shadow
atomic plinth
God this fit fucking rules
glossy delta
Ronin does seem to mesh real well with dane's hat
They're both ostensibly cool looking pieces of kit that I've never been able to make Work
atomic plinth
Looks almost like the Black Hand set from DS3
atomic plinth
...oh goddammit I think I locked myself out of the Godwyn ending
stone cove
Split damage in this game gets hurt early game because of the flat defences, but tends to become okay later on
Due to the fact it's only % resists that really matter, because flat never changes
obtuse halo
it kinda follows the same trend as multi-projectile spells in that manner, yeah
early on star shower tends to get most of its damage eaten by defenses
it gets a lot better over time
atomic plinth
This guy was fun, used nothing but fire based attacks
Fire incants, hefty flame pots, a torch
I love themed characters like that
obtuse halo
mad respect for anyone committing to the bit
I have a pvp character where I'm running everything snake-themed I could fit onto a build
atomic plinth
We ended up killing each other at the same time too lmao
I Ancient Dragon Lightning'd him, he Magma Wyrm'd me
modest berry
are yall familiar with the magma wyrm glitch
atomic plinth
I am not, what is this glitch
modest berry
oh one sec
median rock
where you get the altus gateway one stuck running at the pillar?
modest berry
no regarding the magma wyrm incantations, theodorix specifically
im trying to find the clip
frail sky
Wrong timestamp I think
modest berry
oh i just sent the video i didnt actually meant to timestamp it
its right at the beginning of the vid
0:22
atomic plinth
Anyone happen to have a spare Milicent's Prosthesis? I can trade you whatever weapon you need in return, I've got two of most everything.
median rock
@atomic plinth I can drop one if you want it, i don't need anything for it though. are you on rn?
(if youre' not, that's fine, i'm just going to go get some dinner and i'll be back on in a bit)
atomic plinth
<@673384122076364850> I can drop one if you want it, i don't need anything for i...
I am, yeah
median rock
good timing, i was able to stand up
atomic plinth
You're sure you don't want anything though?
median rock
leave a duelist sign @ church of elleh and ill drop it
atomic plinth
Password LANCER?
atomic plinth
Well, thank you
real shadow
median rock
leave it by the anvil if you can, easiest to see there
atomic plinth
Thar we go
median rock
do u need any other talismans
this is a char cloned from the ng+5 one for duping/muling items
and i think i have all of them
median rock
also lol
i didnt realize i had so many
i just buy them occasionally and never use any (just the flask if i'm suicide bombing smth)
atomic plinth
I never use them either lol
slender loom
Oh shit I did it! || I beat New Radahn!|| It went so much better than any of my other attempts I was getting really nervous at the end
slender loom
I’m shaking but in a good way
atomic plinth
That's a slot that could be filled with anything more useful than "hey you can keep your runes"
atomic plinth
Oh shit I did it! || I beat New Radahn!|| It went so much better than any of my ...
NICE
Good job
slender loom
I had impenetrable thorns and milady with bloody slash
median rock
yeah i always drop duplicate talismans EXCEPT for twigs and golden scarabs
slender loom
I was just spamming bloody slash at the end to get that last bleed proc
median rock
golden scarabs stay because i like having a massive line of them since it makes menuing down post-boss-kill really easy
if i can aim for one of the 7 talismans in a row instead of aiming for the 1 single talisman
glad it worked cancermantis :)
atomic plinth
Can't blame you for using Bleed, that boss deserves it
slender loom
It’s not my usual approach but I could barely scratch him with my normal dual weapon loadouts
Definitely not with my double colossal hammers, my timing isn’t that good
It was a fun way to fight for a change though
You know it reminds me of Malenia a bit, tough as hell fight that required me to drastically change how I play
And with that I’m done with the dlc, I think. Unless I missed a minor legacy dungeon somewhere
proven cloak
Random thought
wondering if the DLC's title doesn't also refer to ||Miquella shadowing Marika in action, considering 'the Erdtree' is used occasionally to refer to Marika / Radagon themselves||
||eg: Leda questioning if 'The Erdtree' guided you here, referring to the guidance of Grace||
mostly just ||how 'Shadow of the Erdtree' can be used to refer to Miq as well as the Shadow-Tree||
since this would make ||the base game and dlc both have the name of the final boss in their titles|| I have to integrate it into my worldview
its just too funny not to
mighty warren
I mean honestly that's how you know you got a nice build if the AI can make it work against you that hard
atomic plinth
I'm not even mad, this just shows me I have a good-ass build going on
mighty warren
same brain
I should do the mirror match and see how my build shapes up to
well myself
atomic plinth
I thought powerstancing an uchi and a wakizashi would suck, but nah, I've been having good results AND I got my ass kicked
mighty warren
I'm still stuck with the death knight greataxe even if i feel the damage is low
warped quest
the damage is pretty good
atomic plinth
...prolly didn't help that the little fucker had my boiled crab lmao
warped quest
i powerstanced two uchis in my first run of the game
mighty warren
the damage is pretty good
It's likely just my lower dex screwing me over then since i vaguely recall hearing that lightning scales with dex
Ah well, drained my arcane and it's sitting at like... 25 or so currently? i'd have to get on and check
just gotta keep pumping it up
warped quest
a lot of the power comes from the art
mighty warren
Oh trust me i'm very familiar with the art
... Ah wait shit no fuckin
i'm an idiot
you wanna know why it's felt like damage is low?
what have i been getting summoned to the most lately?
warped quest
if the online calc is correct it boosts lightning via faith
mighty warren
Oh good
then yeah it's just a side effect of summons making me fight bayle so much
warped quest
yeah dragons absoutely resist lightning
no wait bayle is netrual
but he does resist everything but perice decentlty
i also recomend the dragon katana
mighty warren
Huh, that's
surprising that he's neutral
mighty warren
i also recomend the dragon katana
See that's fair but it's not like i'm being summoned for 36 bayles by choice
i just use the effigy and do near and far
mighty warren
good, fuck that guy
he made my finger hurty
Also i've found the spell layout i like the most
Knight's lightning spears, dragonbolt of florissax, ancient dragon lighting strike fire serpent messmer orb pest thread spears anddd heal from afar
stone cove
Feel like I would want to get one good holy spell in there, myself
Total side note, but:
I really wish the Fire Monks had gotten a proper legacy dungeon in the lead up to the fire giant
proven cloak
yeah and it could give some more history on the culture of the fire giants
maybe some sort of tomb.... of giants.....
mighty warren
Feel like I would want to get one good holy spell in there, myself
Debatably i could switch pest spears out for the saw blade that is multilayered ring of light
but i like my bug spray
(also an absurd amount of weapons i like are holy so that damage will come if needed)
stone cove
Valid
I plan to do some sort of Fire Serpent, Knights lighting Spear, Multilayer Rings of light, and probably add Burn O Flame, Ancient Dragon Lighting and Messmer's Orb in the too, giving me a very good spread of oompf and boom
atomic plinth
maybe some sort of tomb.... of giants.....
left willow
Based on vibes alone: can I find a Culver's in Limgrave? If not, what fast food restaurants could one find in Limgrave?
mighty warren
Mm, dont like lowering my endurance but just 100 equip load should be fine
median rock
fun fact: melina can visit the DLC if you have pending main story dialogue
spoilered bc an image of the dlc, technically, but near the beginning. melina has her "dont worry about the kindling ill take care of it babygirl" dialogue going outside the DBDL grace
paper badge
saw someone posit that Thollier gives off trans lesbian egg vibes
atomic plinth
Dunno, I feel he's more fem-presenting transmasc somehow
left willow
spoilered bc an image of the dlc, technically, but near the beginning. melina ha...
There's a Dead By DayLight segment of the DLC? 👀
atomic plinth
???
left willow
The berries have a beak now (we love TierZoo)
left willow
Also, has anyone else seen the pictures of chubby Ranni?
modest berry
,,,
modest berry
i wouldnt imagine so, no
left willow
I would like the forgetme stick, please
modest berry
i am curious to what you did mean though
left willow
She's just... not rail-thin? in this art I've seen
I want to find it again
To explain
But uh
I don't want to google it again because dear god
obtuse halo
Dying
atomic plinth
Lmao someone tried Golden Waving me in PVP
obtuse halo
Basically an Albinauric
median rock
it's crazy you can get up to 4 stormhawk axes in one NG cycle
median rock
i dont think there's any weapon that has that many potential pickups/drops
(not counting chance-based enemy drops, only guaranteed ones)
left willow
i dont think there's any weapon that has that many potential pickups/drops
me with-
(Yeah, lol)
modest berry
cute
median rock
erdsteel dagger also has 2, i think, kenny's quest + a normal pickup
left willow
erdsteel dagger also has 2, i think, kenny's quest + a normal pickup
We STAN Kenneth in this house
median rock
but i dont think anything beats stormhawk in castle sol, stormhawk in leyndell fake roundtable, and 2x from nepheli
no kenny is a real one i respect him
are there any other weapons with 2 guaranteed copies?
(also not counting "i started with one and it's still available to purchase" obviously, that's only 1 copy)
modest berry
though i do enjoy my lore accurate cutting board ranni made of wicker and rebar, my rannequin
left willow
cute
I am still going to put salt on them, Tarnished.
Blaidd getting a happy meal is also 10/10
modest berry
are there any other weapons with 2 guaranteed copies?
you can get 2 great stars in one run guaranteed i know
median rock
hm true
not at launch but now that the invasion exists
thats a good one
tbf i dont think you could get 4x stormhawk at launch either, probably only 2
well, if you killed her probably but i think she vanished after the midway poitn of the quest
left willow
I wish there was a better spell-using ui
median rock
another fun question - i wonder which grace is located the farthest (map-distance, considering both top and bottom layers off map as one layer) from any other grace, and which is the closest
modest berry
though i do enjoy my lore accurate cutting board ranni made of wicker and rebar,...
||https://www.tumblr.com/blakyoo/755655823844425728/i-love-her-sm?source=share|| i far prefer this normal model to any sexy ranni art ive seen ( warning scandalous undressed doll)
median rock
i think isolated divine tower is farthest but i'm not sure what the closest is. possibly moonlight altar overlaid on albinauric village? or one of the DLC ones where the grace is 20 ft away
left willow
another fun question - i wonder which grace is located the farthest (map-distanc...
The closest has to be the one in the Godskin Duo arena and the one just outside the damn room
median rock
hm on top? possibly
left willow
Oh, right, duh
median rock
ill bet theres probably one thats like literally 10 ft apart but separated by verticality, though. like possibly moonlight altar
left willow
Ah, true
median rock
i think dlc is borderline cheating for that specific check but the DBDL ones r super close... hmm..
||hippo, DBDL, messmer are all contenders for this?||
somebody get zullie on this
median rock
||https://www.tumblr.com/blakyoo/755655823844425728/i-love-her-sm?source=share||...
looked at this image, then decided to hop off ER for the night. first thing i see after closign the game is that theyre making a new ranni figurine via the elden ring steam announcements lol
modest berry
sure, shoot
left willow
modest berry
nerd clusters? more like, graven mass
left willow
(This one is also funny af)
me when my wife won't stop eating the coagulated souls of her students
modest berry
learning lore through descriptions
median rock
fun fact: the new dlc ||oil tear|| is the only crystal tear that lasts 60 seconds. all other buffs are either 180 (3 minutes) or shorter than 60 seconds
stonebarb is 30 seconds, ||dlc has the fp/hp restore on hit tears which are 45 seconds||, and everything else is like 15 or les
||it's weird oil isn't 3 minutes, since the +elemental damage ones are all 3 minutes, and to the best of my knowledge the oil tear is just worse than the fire tear (if you can only use one) unless you're trying to apply oil for an ally or something. i guess they just didn't want you getting 44% extra fire damage (ish, since oil has an cd before it re-applies) for free, which seems fair||
left willow
Oho, someone saw the Spellblade in my name and used a spellproof liver
At some point, I'd like to learn how to pvp in ER, but I'm so scared
Cause I know some of these builds be sweaty af and I'm just a silly lil' gal
modest berry
fun fact: the new dlc ||oil tear|| is the only crystal tear that lasts 60 second...
||deflecting hardtear is 5min i think? ||
modest berry
||it's weird oil isn't 3 minutes, since the +elemental damage ones are all 3 min...
can they stack though is the question|| oil and fire tear||
median rock
||deflecting hardtear is 5min i think? ||
||yeah. that's also the only 5min one||
||nothing else is more than 3m||
||the DLC does add new 3min tears, though, like the bloodsucking (drain hp for dmg boost) tear||
median rock
can they stack though is the question|| oil and fire tear||
||yes but only recommended if you're running large flame explody spells or like slower fire attackign things. from some brief testing it feels like the cooldown is around a second to re-apply oil, and it's consumed on the first tick of fire damage (boosting that instance accordingly), so it's not great on a fast attacking fire damage setup. but yes, it does stack||
||its also worth noting that the tear is +20% damage, the pot is 50%, the hefty pot is 65% (cant personalyl confirm the hefty one though thats just what fextra claims). so like, it is worse, but its also easier (though not free) to apply than a pot||
atomic plinth
Cause I know some of these builds be sweaty af and I'm just a silly lil' gal
Most of them are just Builds
The sweats are rare
What you wanna watch out for are the Greatsword of Damnation spammers
median rock
||i dont know if pots stack with tear but id assume the stronger one wins? i'm not sure, i migth test if i remember tmrw||
atomic plinth
Even then it's as simple as just
Running the opposite direction and pelting them with ranged attacks
left willow
me when pebble: 😈
atomic plinth
I give it a month before GoD gets the Rivers of Blood treatment and becomes an absolute joke
And all it'll take is fixing its weird ability to ignore I-frames
mighty warren
Yeah i can see that sadly
which is a shame, love the design, love the ground spikes
stone cove
And all it'll take is fixing its weird ability to ignore I-frames
I got imapled out of dunking messmer's orb into the ground
whcih felt really bad
mighty warren
Yeah that's not cool
being airborne like that should absolutely keep you outta impale
stone cove
Oh, no it was right as i was landing
and slamming it into the ground
Which really flet liek the guy shoulda just eaten shit and gotten exploded
left willow
Pain
real shadow
frozen olive
mighty warren
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946111070035136613/1266640897244659713/v1...
Oh i love this
fleet bronze
Honestly the DLC seems like an indictment of Goldmask as much as anyone
In so far as the idea that you can perfect anything is kind of deluded
Marika thought she could
proven cloak
oh yeah you could argue Miquella's divestment echoes goldmask
(I dont think it holds much water, but you could do it)
proven cloak
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946111070035136613/1266640897244659713/v1...
he was right on this part!
and, if any character did touch on transcendental truth, its probably Goldmask - though I think his rune is more about making Order itself transcendental, above everything else
mighty warren
Shit i just remembered more fodder for the moore being a pest theory actually
Gowry.
Gowry, if i remember stuff rightly been a minute since ive done Millicent's quest, can like
project through pest? i forget the exact methodology, i just know if you swing on him early he doesnt actually die and a pest's body shows up
grave plinth
Oh yeah I deffo think Moore is one of the kindred of the rot
stone cove
Gowry, if i remember stuff rightly been a minute since ive done Millicent's ques...
Yep, and he actively talks to you and tells you off for it.
It's rpetty funny
mighty warren
So yeah moore is probably absolutely a pest
glossy delta
I suspect Gowry's thing is some Spooky Sage Rot-O-Mancy and not something any pest can do but yeah Moore definitely at least considers himself one
mighty warren
Thats probably overkill on the strength isnt it?
stone cove
@mighty warren For two-handing? Nah
Like yes the AR returns are much lower, but if you're two handing they're still very good
mighty warren
Im not two handing, im one handing to keep my seal on hand
stone cove
Then it's absoltoeuy not overkill as long as your weapon has good strength scaling
and i'd define anything that has a 1.26 (which is like most B grade weapons) as good
mighty warren
Most of my weapons do
that or they have faith scailing
stone cove
What are you using as a weapon?
mighty warren
Varies, ive a flame art FKGS, death knight longhaft axe, black steel great hammer, freyja's CGS (or horned warrior's? im still torn on which of those to do, freyja's has more flexibility is the thing)
stone cove
Gimme a moment
mighty warren
I infuse heavy onto freyja's typically so it gets an A in strength scaling for the record
mighty warren
I dont think you can flame art Freyja's
mighty warren
Yeah but isnt only skewer and the uh ranged one the only flame art AOWs?
mighty warren
Huh, fair
stone cove
Any "Fire" class AoW
can be infused Flame Art or Fire.
Additonally, any HEavy, Quality, Keen AoW can be used for Fire or Flame ARt infusion
you just have to have the right whetblade for it
(You get it in Castle Redmane, the non-festival version)
mighty warren
ill have to find the whetblade then i suppose?
Regardless, i think heavy is still better just for maximum captilizing on strength
stone cove
Absoloteuy, yes
also in general physical damage is lessl ikely to be resisted than Fire.
At your level and presumable NG+, the split damage isnt really an issue
what is an issue is % resistances
The exception ofc is your FKGS
which just has very silly Flame Art scaling
mighty warren
Aye
BSGH i tend to go sacred for too
Cause innate holy
and i dont like splitting my damage 3 ways, 2 is one thing
stone cove
But even heavy, it has a a monster A 1.54 in it.
and still has a bit of fire damage as a bonus
mighty warren
Indeed
mighty warren
Fair, thats what i'll start working towards next
stone cove
IF you two-hand (And it's worth learnign to combat switch fast betwene the two)
this is what your AR looks like when two handing
mighty warren
i would pump faith but i feel like 60 is fine for what im doing, gives me just enough to use all the spells i want and i still get 270+ scaling on my seal
stone cove
Yeah, i'm probably going to rejigger my SL 200 build
and dump faith back down to 60 from it's current 75
just because it'll free up more points for Mind and END
does mean i have to use the Godslayer seal instead of the Erdtree seal
but such is life
mighty warren
Whats godslayer sitting at for 60 out of curiosity?
stone cove
291
If you're mainly using Ancient Dragon or Giant FLame, then those are likely to be better
Actually, in your case
if you arent using spell buffs
use the Clawmark seal
Because it's 308
mighty warren
clawmark seal my beloved
stone cove
(But it's bad if youy want to use Blackflame Blade, Sacred Blade or BLoodflame Blade)
also bad if yo uwant to use non-regen heal spells
mighty warren
Admittedly i can probably drop my heal from afar so
stone cove
I mean, Heal From Afar is amazing
and very combat castable
so i'd persoanlly keep using Godslayer
mighty warren
Tis why i had it originally
stone cove
since the differnce is 308 for Clawmark vs 291 for Godslayers
mighty warren
Ive been using dryleaf actually cause i didnt have godslayer
i intend to fix that obviously
(dryleaf beating out erdtree by a literal 1 at 60)
stone cove
At your current stats
So FInger seal is actually also very good, ironically
(it's quitely like, one of the best)
If you get to 80 faith, Fire KNight's Seal becomes really good, it jumps dramacitally, but it's still 20 points behind Erdtree.
Incant scaling is silly >.>
mighty warren
Gravel stone wouldnt be a bad one since i use KLS and ADLS a lot
lower general scaling but pumps my main options a li higher
stone cove
Absoloteuyl, i'd actualyl say if you're favouring a specific scool
which at this level is going to be Godslayer, Ancient Dragon, or Fire Giant
then use the resepective seal for htem
mighty warren
mighty warren
Gravel stone would also work pretty well since ive got the death knight gauntlets on
mighty warren
Mm
yknow i like fire serpent but i dont feel i need it
i crave more dragon cult
good ol slam jam combo between the spear dunks and messmer's basketball
i know not to use that back to back thats so much fuckin vulnerability but its hard to call it anything besides a hilarious slam jam
God i love the wings ash of war
warped quest
yeah
mighty warren
gimme all the hitbox displacement
warped quest
its really good for enemies you want to hit and run with
stone cove
Hey glyph drawing is an art
paper badge
Dunno, I feel he's more fem-presenting transmasc somehow
well I guess we at least agree there is Gender
atomic plinth
Aye
vivid spire
saw someone posit that Thollier gives off trans lesbian egg vibes
Gives nb vibes to me
frail sky
Thiollier is definitely some sort of queer
atomic plinth
...this mf is 100% a Wolverine reference isn't he
covert schooner
So my opinion on Ranni Vs Goldmask is that I think Goldmask is kinda wishful thinking insofar as it requires no one to ever go “eh lemme tweak the ring” again iirc
Well
And Goldmask is still continuing the influence of the greater will ||in whatever capacity that may be|| which knocks it down about 40 pegs for me
Well, I guess the implication is that his mending rune makes the ring immutable
But that’s even worse in some respects because now reality and government and life are all being governed by essentially a computer program
glossy delta
Yeah, Goldmask's ending being good or not kind off hinges on whether you think the Golden Order is a good thing
That Marika went and ruined
vestal night
It's ambiguous whether Goldmask would actually continue to let the Greater Will interfere either
covert schooner
I mean regardless he’s still basing it off the thing it created
I will admit
I am mostly just extremely anti god influence
slender loom
I’m starting to think I’ve severely underestimated bleed builds based on how I’ve done against them in pvp (the bleed has rarely been the problem for me over the normal damage). But I realized I’d missed a few minor but troublesome bosses and started cleaning up a little, and holy crap have they been so much easier to deal with using the bleed build I switched to for dlc final boss
frail sky
I’m starting to think I’ve severely underestimated bleed builds based on how I’v...
Yeah, bleed is just really good in pve
proven cloak
😌
https://fixvx.com/Shyfurby/status/1817054566715723863
any guy can girlboss, but it takes a real man to be a single mother 🙏
proven cloak
And Goldmask is still continuing the influence of the greater will ||in whatever...
yeah but ||The Greater Will is the force that created life as we know it, and implied life as we dont know it too||
I got no beef with that. Its quite literally done very little besides ambigiously send space-rocks down.
proven cloak
So my opinion on Ranni Vs Goldmask is that I think Goldmask is kinda wishful thi...
(they're both wishful thinking, in that Ranni's requires you trust Ranni to remain steadfast to her principles of non-intervention - and neither is going to last forever. Ranni can't fully divest the Elden Ring from the lands between, as 'life and souls are one with the order')
I do think both endings end up in roughly the same place re: (Human) Gods
the DLC adds support for, and arguements against, both of their solutions, though
||Miquella seems to have been as aware as Ranni of the sacrifices required to establish an Order, at least||
||Rannis Order will only last so long as she does, in the same way as Miquella's||
||And the Hornsent show what sorts of horrors mortal men can get up to, even without a God-Ruled-Order leading the way||
stone cove
Yeah, bleed is just *really good* in pve
I always find it's a bit tricky to get going, you sorta have to work for a while.
But when you can start bringing a properly leveled and statted Occult Spiked Club, Great Stars or Omenkiller Cleaver with the right ashes, things start getting narly
gray leaf
||Both Ranni and Miquela talk about their era lasting a thousand years. ...it's possible that's how long an era is "supposed to" last, and the Erdtree's Age of Plenty just... outstayed its welcome, which would hardly be novel in a Soulsborne game.||
stone cove
I alwayts took the thosuand years to be more metaphorical, honestly
gray leaf
It's certainly very possible, but the fact that it's the same for both... honestly I could see it being literal or metaphorical.
stone cove
UIt just reads as metaphroical pharsing to me, perosnally
proven cloak
||Both Ranni and Miquela talk about their era lasting a thousand years. ...it's...
||not like Marika wasnt trying to end it after a while, tbf||
Probably more metaphorical than literal
atomic plinth
What spells and incants do y'all recommend running on an INT/FAI build?
Here's my repetoire so far
modest berry
discus of light
kind garden
Discus of Light is really strong for the FP cost, Triple Rings is more expensive but it sweeps a huge AoE and both get boosted by the Fundamentalism seal
idk the real benefit of running INT/FAI is you can do whatever the hell you want
Ancient Death Rancor hits very consistently and does a lot of damage, Explosive Ghostflame is weak in terms of raw damage output but it manhandles human-model NPCs thanks to the launching effect
atomic plinth
I'll check out Ancient Rancor, looks fun
kind garden
Rykard's Rancor absolutely mollywops some bosses
Magma sorcery cooks surprisingly hard actually
atomic plinth
I've heard, I ought to give some of the magma sorceries a shot
covert schooner
Black Flame is great for high health enemies
Black Flame Ball is my like….. bread and butter for any character with the faith to use it
It’s a disgustingly good spell
kind garden
in the same vein actually
Giantsflame Take Thee does not have a special effect, but it is another launcher explosion
so it absolutely manhandles enemies that you can launch
and deals an approximate metric fuckton of damage when charged
in terms of DLC spells
Spectral Rings of Light is an artillery barrage that goes extremely far out
kind garden
Vortex of Putrescence denies the entire area you're standing in
kind garden
I think tornado's good because it's huge, knocks enemies away, denies the area you're in as you charge it
glossy delta
It's a good add clear spell yeah
covert schooner
Which. Speaking of I honestly think people are being a little mean to uhhh
Crucible Bloom
covert schooner
Since groups of enemies that are just sitting around tightly clustered are super super common
It’s a great opener
covert schooner
Maybe not a boss spell but I honestly think people like
mighty warren
I enjoy it for meme purposes personally, not effective for how i play though
kind garden
and it has a weird tracking property
covert schooner
Do you mean the rolling one
mighty warren
It's
better than most of the crucible aspects
and yeah the spin to spike one
covert schooner
I….. uh, don’t think it’s good
I kinda don’t think the roll damage stuff has ever been great lol
It’s a viable meme but
kind garden
better than most crucible aspects
horn exists
honkshoo
mighty warren
Wrong one emily
kind garden
not mantle of thorns lmao
spring marlin
...huh, multilayered isn't an int/fai like triple or radagon's?
kind garden
the one where you shoot porcupine quills everywhere
covert schooner
OH
mighty warren
...huh, multilayered isn't an int/fai like triple or radagon's?
Pure faith, yep!
covert schooner
yeah idk
kind garden
...huh, multilayered isn't an int/fai like triple or radagon's?
it isn't but it gets boosted by the int/fai seal
atomic plinth
Mohg down, back to DLCLand I go
Speaking of, I should probably run that and PoD staff
covert schooner
tune Of back to Tamriel
atomic plinth
Rather than the Staff of the Great Beyond
kind garden
listen
mighty warren
But yeah i like thorns, it's got some hitbox displacement and the spikes can do
shockingly good damage for its cost
kind garden
you want my take on playing hyper caster
mighty warren
better on bigger targets for obvious reason though
kind garden
fuck switching catalysts
either use all of one type of spell
or use the Staff of the Great Beyond
I refuse to do this fiddly catalyst juggling bullshit
atomic plinth
You know what, good point
It does only have 342 scaling for me at the moment but it's useable
kind garden
I look at what I'm fighting in a given area and decide on which spells I'm equipping appropriately
spring marlin
have to agree on that one, cycling spells is hard enough under pressure
mighty warren
I just stick to my incants and whatever weapon i have in my main hand
kind garden
you lose some scaling, sure, but you get the ability to cast cursed spell combinations
have you ever wanted to combo Noble Presence into Carian Piercer before
atomic plinth
That does sound pretty cursed
kind garden
take that one with a grain of salt, I don't actually know spell combos on the Staff of the Great Beyond but I know some spell combos in general and I assume you can get mightily cursed with the GB staff
atomic plinth
...man it's nice to be back
mighty warren
Only time i've blended catalyst was to try out impenetrable thorns
and while the spell is absurdly effective it was
not fun
static tulip
DLC spoilers: ||they weren't lying about Radahn||
atomic plinth
Oh, wow, Scadu blessing carries over to NG+ iterations, that's handy
mighty warren
I tried it on || consort|| at one point and got him super low but just kinda
stopped using the spell and warped back to grace
Sure the kill was right there but it didn't feel right
atomic plinth
I feel that
mighty warren
Ironically my next run was the kill so
the game decided to acknowledge that choice in its own way
gray leaf
It's so funny that there's a spell category consisting of two spells, which are the worst and best spells in the DLC by far respectively.
atomic plinth
Man, Blackgaol Knight is a chump when you parry him
atomic plinth
It's so funny that there's a spell category consisting of two spells, which are ...
Lmao yeah
kind garden
It's so funny that there's a spell category consisting of two spells, which are ...
What spell category
Oh
Never mind
I know what you mean
atomic plinth
"The worst mechanic in the game we keep putting into these games for some reason"
Or
"God-melting power"
mighty warren
I like the roll damage gimmick myself
mostly cause rolling into an enemy seems to always take aggro so it's great if you're using a support or long range spirit ash
would not use a spell for it mind you, i'll just throw the briar gauntlets on and call it a day
obtuse halo
Honestly I’ve run briar gauntlets on a couple of characters, the damage is negligible but it produces more staggers than you’d think
The spell version is still pretty pointless though
mighty warren
Mhm
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God, still fucked up about an environmental detail and a headcanon about that detail
the fact you find jars and innards in that infirmary wing in shadow keep
the headcanon being ||the fire knights were trying to get the shamans out of the jars, like treating it like a medical thing to be healed||
@left willow @spring marlin imagining ||the fire knights being super traumatized by the horrors they've observed trying to save the melded shamans||
left willow
<@257973285390778378> <@213034462542299136> imagining ||the fire knights being s...
I'm sobbing
atomic marsh
Spoilers for tbe dlcs final boss but LMAO ||https://youtu.be/BgLQzg8vzmA?si=L_RddqhtaiCmF_wl||
obtuse halo
LMAO
obtuse halo
This is hysterical
paper badge
I'm *sobbing*
me too tbh
obtuse halo
He can move the stars, but this guy ain’t moving one fucking inch
paper badge
I'm *sobbing*
need fanart of ||a Fire Knight holding a bedridden Jar Innards shaman's hand while another fire knight is out of sight, holding their head in their hands like they're crying||
atomic plinth
He can move the stars, but this guy ain’t moving one fucking inch
||Radahn's moved the stars but unfortunately for him, this motherfucker was a goddamn neutron||
median rock
||Radahn's moved the stars but unfortunately for him, this motherfucker was a go...
spoiler ur shit
applies to reply msg too
atomic plinth
Didn't think that warranted a spoiler
median rock
the msg u replied to shoudl probably be spoilered too. ||if you're going to respond to a video listed as "spoilers for final boss" with stuff about said final boss in the video u should probably spoiler it||
since i know at least some ppl who msg here haven't finished the DLC, even though hades was already spoiled on that i think?
paper badge
tfw u work in shadow keep and youre about to start another 12 hour shift of ||trying to de-cronenberg the shamans that got stuffed in jars||
left willow
Can you pick up the Crimson Amber Medallion (+0) outside of the starting keepsakes?
mighty warren
Aye
proven horizon
merchant in the east of weeping peninsula sells it
mighty warren
it's off of a nomadic merchant in weeping peninsula, forget the exact spot
left willow
gotcha
Why is the Astrologer's Staff (the starting equipment thing) the coolest casting stick?
proven horizon
I quite like the gelmir staff myself
left willow
Not bad, but not as good as the starter stick, imo
median rock
(rotten) crystal staff slander...
proven cloak
<@257973285390778378> <@213034462542299136> imagining ||the fire knights being s...
The cycle of death and rebirth, taken into the hands of mortal men!
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The cycle of death and rebirth, taken into the hands of mortal men!
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covert schooner
Man
Thinking about Morgott
He wants so bad to be a real king, to be lord, but he knows he isn’t
He even fights against the tarnished…. I think kinda partially because he knows them returning means it’s over for him soon
warped quest
i thought he was a real king
proven cloak
hes a real G for sure
proven cloak
He wants so bad to be a real king, to be lord, but he knows he isn’t
He even fig...
100% he tried to seek audience to repair the ring, but was unwilling to burn the Erdtree and immediately gave up hope
covert schooner
i thought he was a real king
I mean he’s not elden lord
And his kingdom is annhilated
So
He’s king in name only
proven cloak
its notable in the story trailer he leaves the crown on the throne, and is never seen with it in game
Hes got a cool parallel made more direct in japanese, where he’s the Last King (of Leyndell) and Godfrey’s referred to as the First King
old brook
Morgott doesn't really have a way to burn the tree anyhow
Kindling isn't easy to come by
( not that he would )
grave plinth
Even then he’s like, pretty much maintaining the status quo, which involves the enslavement of Omens and Misbegotten
grave plinth
No no that’s Goldmask
proven cloak
Goldmask’s the Fundementalist guy
slightly different
Morgotts for the GO as a political institution
proven cloak
hes like if the Buddha was cool 🥰
frozen olive
Morgott is all in on the Golden Order as an institution
grave plinth
I’d contend that there’s not really a difference between politics, religion, and metaphysics when it comes to the Golden Order
Side effect of being a theocracy centered around an immanent god-empress
frozen olive
the institution ruling the lands between
frozen olive
I’d contend that there’s not really a difference between politics, religion, and...
yes but
Goldmask is the religion guy
no matter how you slice it
that's his focus
proven cloak
well, and math
frozen olive
even if they are all intertwined he's still about the theological aspect
grave plinth
Pretty much half of Morgott’s dialogue is him spouting religious dogma
frozen olive
yeah because Morgott is about the full golden order thing
proven cloak
even then hes really latched onto the Erdtree specifically, too
frozen olive
yes
proven cloak
its a very physical thing for him
hes very much about the literal giant tree he lives under
he supports the GO because its tied to the Erdtree, not because hes an ardent supporter of it by itself
(because hes not well. Probably because of the sewer-thing)
frozen olive
i imagine so yes
frozen olive
growing up in a horrible torture sewer surely did not help either of the omen siblings
proven cloak
its a top 10 MarikaMoment for sure
grave plinth
Morgott has 100% internalized the abuse he lived under
frozen olive
he is continuing the cycle of violence for sure
proven cloak
the treatment of the Omens is a little better under his shattering rule, but he didnt do much to actually help them
iirc theres no actual Omenkillers anywhere near Leyndell, and you never find Omens actually chained up in the sewers
frozen olive
he didn't keep up the Omen torture
covert schooner
See the difference between Goldmask and Morgott
frozen olive
which is a lot better than what Marika was doing
covert schooner
Is that Morgott would 1000% burn the tree BUT
proven cloak
but… they still live there, and arent given respect / proper gear
covert schooner
Only if mommy told him to
And she didn’t so he won’t
Goldmask kinda doesn’t care for the golden order as a like
Organization
As much as he cares for it as a rule set
grave plinth
iirc theres no actual Omenkillers anywhere near Leyndell, and you never find Ome...
There actually is an omenkiller in the city
covert schooner
Morgott meanwhile is deep in the religious fervor mook aid because it’s the only thing he can cling to
And yeah there’s an omen killer in the city
And Morgott is referred to as the veiled king, that no one has ever met
Presumably because like
People wouldn’t accept an omen king
proven cloak
There actually is an omenkiller in the city
damn forgot about that one
proven cloak
well he can’t be the GOAT in every way, unfortunately
frozen olive
nah that's Godfrey for sure
proven cloak
and GOATmask
frozen olive
trueeeee
mighty warren
Having finished goldmask's ending recently i quite liked it, even with my own stances on religion
frozen olive
i'm not big on religion but i'm a big Ever Brilliant Goldmask enjoyer
proven cloak
I consider his ending one of the more secular, honestly
mighty warren
I also just enjoy the fucking powermove goldmask is narratively
dude's just standing there, dead silent, and finds a way to mend the order
Corhyn calling him a madman is, hilariously, what made me go "yknow what you're pretty alright goldie"
proven cloak
If Rannis is promoting approaching the divine with uncertainty, Goldmasks is demystifying it
lmao
mighty warren
I do not like Corhyn
frozen olive
he t-poses on the god tree and figures out a way to basically take away gods admin access
fuck Corhyn fr
mighty warren
I dont hate him, i get he's just indocrinated
frozen olive
all my homies hate Corhyn
mighty warren
but i dont like him
mighty warren
he t-poses on the god tree and figures out a way to basically take away gods adm...
"who gave this fuckin' tree backdoor access?"
proven cloak
Corhyns interesting because he really is 100% in on faith
he didnt recant his visions of the Erdtree burning
because his faith in those visions was unshakable
but that same faith became his biggest flaw
mighty warren
It does make me wonder how Corhyn' interrupted what goldmask was "saying", surely you can only do so much with finger motions
interrepted
not interrupted
proven cloak
He calls it ‘rhythmic calculus’ and does accept the Fundamentalist book which is a dense academic treaty
so probably math
its why all the Fundie spells have you strike sharp poses
mighty warren
Fair
frail sky
Spoilers for tbe dlcs final boss but LMAO ||https://youtu.be/BgLQzg8vzmA?si=L_Rd...
Dryleaf whirlwind kick a hornsent ||Radahn|| into the abyssal woods
steel scroll
some fromsoft area desinger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPb4oryoRMw
atomic plinth
...sure wish missing a parry didn't immediately delete your stamina bar
Least it reduces the damage taken
I... think
warped quest
idk if partial parry is a thing in er or njot
kind garden
it is
obtuse halo
it is but it's frequently better to whiff entirely
because most things you'd want to parry with have pretty trash mitigation and guard boost
if you whiff entirely, you just take a hit, which sucks, and if you partial parry with a buckler you'll take half a hit and explode your stamina bar 😛
median rock
partial parry is but not partial parries that also successfully parry
like you can whiff for reduced dmg and no parry
but not like in ds3 where mistimed parries could succeed with chip taken anyway
iirc its possible on certain aoe ish attacks but not generally
atomic plinth
Lmao some guy inspected my character with a telescope and then slept me with a shotgun crossbow, that was funny
real shadow
atomic plinth
WHAT THE FUCK
frail sky
wat
atomic plinth
There were like twenty some odd revenants there holy shit
frail sky
Where are you, I’ve never seen that before
languid tiger
looks like right above the black knife catacomb
next to the haima converted tower whose name i don't remember
(might just be fringe?)
atomic plinth
It's near the Converted Fringe Tower yeah
Nothing really exceptional here besides the twenty revenants
glossy delta
Oh that's interesting
Armor king and combo queen
atomic plinth
Also! When are the active frames for a dagger parry?
warped quest
obtuse halo
yeah dagger is definitely the best of the weapon parries, even if it's just not as good as the small shield parry or the fp cost parries
warped quest
i feel like weapon parries should def be a bit stronger
warped quest
in ds2 the repaier had 10 active parry frames
atomic plinth
Which I'm guessing is A Fucking Lot
obtuse halo
10 at 60fps or 30fps?
obtuse halo
the monstary simtar has 0 starting frames
wait that's nuts lmao
even at 60 that's better than anything in ER
modest berry
i wonder what the frames for the blasphemous claw is
warped quest
well besides spellthings
obtuse halo
yeah before weapon arts in ds3 LT was just hotkeyed to parry unless you were running a greatshield, in which case it was bashing
obtuse halo
it's a weird tiny cleaver thing
obtuse halo
it's called a "scimitar" but I honestly don't know how to describe it lol
languid tiger
two fucking intensity 2+ weapons in the game
warped quest
i learned a new fact about ds2 today actully
the scrollwheel works
never thought about it ever
languid tiger
lmao
warped quest
ds2 has wierd keyboard and mouse tweaks that arent even in 3 or er
like the ablity to lock yourself into running walking or blocking
toggle i should say
obtuse halo
impressive!
stone cove
if you whiff entirely, you just take a hit, which sucks, and if you partial parr...
This is why you use Carian retailation with a medium shield - MEssmer's shield or Brass Shield
obtuse halo
when I experimented with parrying I used Storm Wall on the Black Leather Shield for fashion
atomic plinth
I wish we could use the fancy parries on non-shields
stone cove
Fasir. Unoufrnately, From did a gooby and made a parry that's better than everything else >.>
obtuse halo
which is obviously not optimal but I make many sacrifices for fashion
atomic plinth
I'd KILL for Carian Retaliation on my Wakizashi
stone cove
(I do, in general, agrtee the way the parry mehcanics work out are pretty bad)
obtuse halo
honestly I wish the weapon called the parrying dagger either had a unique parry or could take parry ashes
stone cove
You want really maddening?
The Katar and now the Patar both come with Impaling Thrust.
Pata*
obtuse halo
lmao
stone cove
You can't infuse them with Imapling Thrust.
obtuse halo
hah!
stone cove
So if you wwant to use imapling thrust on them, you're stuck with default scaling
obtuse halo
that is a bit cursed
stone cove
The thing is it's obvious they can do per weapon
scriptmsith weapons for instance
so these omisisons are just ??????
frail sky
The Katar and now the Patar both come with Impaling Thrust.
That's also the case for the golem's halberd right?
Er.. the can't be infused with their base aow thing I mean
atomic plinth
Aye
stone cove
I'll take your word for it
It's very annoying though
wince I keep watching Chasethebro invasions, and the number of phantoms he obliterates because they obviously havel ike 40 or less vigor
is very disturbing
phantom takes 450 damage and looses half it's hp bar
SIR YOU HAVE A PROBLEM INVEST IN VIGOR
obtuse halo
so this might actually be an issue with scaling? higher-leveled password summons get scaled down to their summoner in terms of HP and damage, so if someone at like level 50 summons their level 200 friend who stopped at 60 vigor and started powerleveling offensive stats, they might have dramatically less HP
modest berry
*wince* I keep watching Chasethebro invasions, and the number of phantoms he obl...
i love chase sm
frail sky
so this might actually be an issue with scaling? higher-leveled password summons...
I’d have to rewatch the vid but I think it was the host
obtuse halo
oh the host has no fucking excuse lol
frail sky
They had like… 700 hp total
obtuse halo
I have definitely two-shot some people in invasions with viper bite -> poison moth flight while they're going for a bolus
stone cove
It miiiight be scaling, but like most of this is hapepnign in dlc zones
and agaisnt people who arel ike, rivers of blood, fingerprint shield, mohg spear etc
and yes, tehcincally, you can get this shit at a very low level
obtuse halo
oh well that's just ridiculous
stone cove
HOWEVER.
It's also v. funny because he's deflecitng guardtear people
so they just go dink "Oh no" kersplat
frail sky
Oh god
stone cove
Oh no i just broke Danny. They saw me playing Sts, and saw i was at a20
then my hours played
frail sky
How bad?
stone cove
Well, i think A20 is a good for funises diffuclty to play
and uh
6k+ hours
6,211 hours apprently
RIP there goes that watcher run
i relaly wish watcher was better deisgned overall >.>
she's so one note
obtuse halo
One note?
frail sky
6,211 hours apprently
How
obtuse halo
I find watcher has quite a lot of build variety, though admittedly I don't play at A20
pressure points is a waste of a card though
the mark concept is neat but there's just no support for it
frail sky
Zombie you have played StS for 258.8 days
obtuse halo
That is wild though
my most played game is Tales of Maj'Eyal at more like 1200 hours
which is a lot but pales to 6k
left willow
Zombie you have played StS for 258.8 days
They have, yes
stone cove
Zombie you have played StS for 258.8 days
You're asusming this is my only six k hour game >.>
tbf, there's a fair amount of infalted hours in my steam becvause i tend to have games open and get distracted
so the actual hours played is dramatically lower
like using the ingame stats for Helldivers my in game hours played is a 100 and something
vs steam reporting 400 and something
left willow
Zombie, get distracted? No way, smh my head 
real shadow
I'm...not sure what the longest game I've played. It might be BotW? Maybe?
stone cove
I find watcher has quite a lot of build variety, though admittedly I don't play ...
She degenrates into being very combo out around Rushdown most of the time. Like rushdown combos are so storng you may as well try and force them every time
obtuse halo
gotcha
stone cove
nd a lot of her power is locked up in Wrath stance existing and stance dancing
obtuse halo
the only character I've taken to A20 was silent and that still felt like I had some strong build variety
stone cove
as well as cards with "IF X then Y" riders
obtuse halo
albeit a really rough start, I feel like Silent just has a very rough act 1 on higher ascensions
stone cove
Sielnt, Irooncald and Defect are all in great places
Oh, absoloteuy
Silent has the worst starter deck
best starter relic by several miles
but silent stastically cannot beat Lavagulin with her starter deck
every other character can
obtuse halo
I've tried, yeah, Lagavulin is almost a death sentence
it's still possible with potions or some well-chosen additions, but it's always dicey
obtuse halo
act 1 elites in general are really rough for silent I think, Gremlin Nob is a real goddamn problem too
really cannot afford to not blitz it down
stone cove
He's just a damage check
obtuse halo
yeah
stone cove
Early act 1 (Defined as "Before the first tresure chest in the middle of the act") is basically "Find some good damage"
It's why starting with Transforms or Choose a card, or gold as your wqhale choice is usually good
even removes
(You just remove a defend or two)
Like lol.
Anyway, i gota get stew on
left willow
is there a good, low-faith req holy damage spell? Cause apparently, Discus is not holy??
stone cove
but i am always happy to stream slay the spire and yak about startergy in it
Discus is holy
left willow
Why doesn't it perma down skellies?
warped quest
scared blade honestly
stone cove
because perma down skellies is not a effecto f Holy Damage
left willow
... WAT
stone cove
it's an effect of spells and aow that have "Permantly lays these thigns to rest" as a rider
stone cove
Undead simply has "takes 100% bonus damage" from holy
Nah, you're not dumb
this is somethign that is never explained
And easily missed
In prior games, holy damage did permantly down Skeletons, i think
Or Occult weapons, which were theri own thing in DS1?
also because of how Elden Ring is structued the only low acessbility hoyl damage spell is in fact, Discus of light
which is insane.
stone cove
Otherwise, yes, Sacred Blade (The AOW) is the way to go
left willow
so other than T-posing, is there any other good options for anti-skelly measures?
stone cove
Sacred Blade
left willow
ah, gotcha
warped quest
even a rank 0 shortsword with scared blade erases undead
stone cove
Get a club, stick sacred blade on it
signal harness
I just upgraded Golden Epitaph for skellies
stone cove
level up the club whenever you have the bellbearings to buy upgrade mateirals
warped quest
to the point it can oneshot the skeletons in linirua for farming
stone cove
Never ever worry about skellingtons again
signal harness
Probably not the most efficient but it looks cool
glossy delta
I just hit them again when they're down lol
left willow
I just hit them again when they're down lol
there's just so damn many of them here
warped quest
i honest'y think nothing beats scared blade against skeletons
I do think the best holy attack that doesnt require heavy faith is
the halo scyth's art
atomic plinth
Level 300 baybeeeeeee
Time to start leveling DEX & STR
Primarily DEX, I need it for casting and I powerstance an Uchi and a Wakizashi
warped quest
i feel wierd not powerstancing the same weapon a lot of the time
obtuse halo
I do think the best holy attack that doesnt require heavy faith is
wrong, it's discus of light on an int build (I kid)
warped quest
i dont bother with ng+ unless i have to generally
warped quest
more games need to make ng+ actully intresting
stoic sleet
i can see the appeal of NG+1 for, like, playing through the whole game on a build that just can't come online until lategame
but beyond that i've never really been tempted to venture out
warped quest
my thought with that is you just end up beating the game with one build the entire time
instead of one that evolves
and you usallyt just up smashing though it
stoic sleet
idk it's just sometimes there's a neat weapon or something that you want to build around, but it doesn't drop until a lategame area and there's no really good lead-up to it
i don't have an offhand example right now but it's something i know i've run into before
warped quest
i don't disagree its more of i like seeing builds evolve
mighty warren
I enjoy the fuckass scaling in later NG cycles
languid tiger
more games need to make ng+ actully intresting
i wish they'd iterated more on their attempts with DS2
in ER
since the ds2 folks & (final) director were a big part of it
maybe their next game plays with NG cycles more
in the way AC6 did
warped quest
nioh handles ng+ really strangely
doing missions gets you points towrds unlocking more missions
so you only need to do a certain number of missions and the game counts it as having unlocked every mission so you can skip most missions
it would be like if to beat ng+ in ER
clearing liernia and limgrave and some of caelid let you go to ng++
warped quest
yeah i think you did but it just had to be the final final boss yeah
AND AND it let you swap ng+ ranks at any time
languid tiger
i did not remember that part
stone cove
yeah ng+ doesn't really appeal to me with ER
I really hit the "Ugh, builds get fuzzy" past like, Sl 200
obtuse halo
yeah at SL200 if you don't have everything you need for your build, what is happening
glossy delta
yeah at SL200 if you don't have everything you need for your build, _what is hap...
For me its 'I want my faith/arc seal and my dex/arc weapon to both scale as good as possible'
obtuse halo
I mean, I guess, but I felt like my hard faith/int prince of death staff build was utterly complete at level 200
anything else would just be jacking up mind a bit more I guess
warped quest
my build probally needs some trimming but i wanted to try a bunch of diffrent weapo nsduring the dlc
glossy delta
My first character has long since gone into 'if the scaling stat isn't at 80 why even bother' territory
atomic plinth
Kinda wish they'd used Onikiri & Ubadachi's old moveset for powerstanced katanas
Or for powerstanced katana + wakizashi
stone cove
yeah at SL200 if you don't have everything you need for your build, _what is hap...
There's still choices to be made at that level, like you're still making major trade offs between FP etc if you want to go Dex/Fth or similar
But once you start getting past it it does really slam into issues
left willow
can you get the skinny godskinner's clothes?
atomic plinth
You can, yeah
left willow
also, I am officially lost in CFA Y^Y
atomic plinth
Head down to the bottom of the Caelid Divine Tower
atomic plinth
"Ah, yes, let's add a platforming section to the non-platforming game"
left willow
i swtg, Farum Azula is just not one I'm meant to navigate
fleet bronze
i hate that tower
It's also got Haligtree/Farum Azula scaling but you can just blunder in to it at relatively low levels
left willow
It's also got Haligtree/Farum Azula scaling but you can just blunder in to it at...
that.... would explain why I struggled with it the first time I went in
frail sky
Dragonbarrow is one of the areas of all time
fleet bronze
I don't think i've ever killed the Deaths Kindred gargoyle
I've just never felt like I even needed too
left willow
after beating the two skin heads in Farum... where do I go next?
Cause I know I'm missing a trick somewhere
But I can't find it
obtuse halo
there should be an exit at the end of the room (near where the boss spawns from) that progresses you somewhere new
left willow
yes
Then there's the area unlocked by the Stone Sword Keys
but that loops back
And the other path is a dead end? maybe?
obtuse halo
have you found the area with the birds?
signal harness
after beating the two skin heads in Farum... where do I go next?
This is a really weird and confusing area
Lots of ruin hopping
obtuse halo
uh, if you exit the room where godskin duo is out the new route, there should be some areas to move through, including crossing a floating pillar and some floating rocks. If you eventually see a Crucible Knight, you're going in the right direction. There'll be a grace if you turn right from where the Crucible Knight is
left willow
once my wife is doen with her call, I'll pop into the chat
atomic plinth
Y'all know any mods that'll make the dodge system more responsive
frail sky
Not really?
stone cove
Dragonbarrow is one of the areas of all time
Caelid as a zone just still confuses the hell out of me structurally, in a game design sense
Even just how it's connected to limfrave, the potential flow etc, it's all very weird
frail sky
Caelid as a zone just still confuses the hell out of me structurally, in a game ...
Yeah Carelid is just very weirdly placed, it’s a post liurnia area attached to a post capital area that you can get to basically immediately
stone cove
Which gets weirder when you know you need two great runes to get into the capital
And your accessible ones are:
Mohg, Rykard, Godrick, Renalla, Radahn
Volcano manor is also scaled higher, getting into altus is sort of meant to involve the lift, who's medal is in.... Drumroll Dragonbarrow
atomic plinth
Y'all know any mods that'll make the dodge system more responsive
Cause I've been having a consistent issue of my dodge input taking a full half second before it registers
And it's absolutely insufferable
warped quest
is this even from neutral?
frail sky
I don't think that's a bug or anything, I think that's just how the game works
atomic plinth
From neutral?
frail sky
From just standing there
warped quest
your not middle of osmething else like an attack
atomic plinth
No, it's from me moving
I don't dodge in the middle of attacks
Cause like, it won't really do anything
stone cove
Froms games have input buffering, and very little too animation cancelling
Unlike say monster hunter where you can actively roll out of recovery frames from attacks
Very little too no*
frail sky
But yeah, I've also noticed there's a slight delay between me pressing the roll button and me actually rolling that isn't there for any other actions and I'm pretty sure it's intentional
stone cove
You just get used to it, but it is obnoxious.
atomic plinth
I think it has something to do with Run and Dodge being bound to the same button/key
stone cove
Iirc, yes
Backstep has similar issues
Which combined with it's lack of iframes is why I never see anyone use backstep
frail sky
Remember in dark souls 2 when backstepping was actually good? And then never again?
warped quest
i honestly don't notice the delay
stone cove
Remember in dark souls 2 when backstepping was actually good? And then never aga...
I don't, actually!
stone cove
I do think From needs to do some hard yards in refining their control scheme, and make some hard choices on exactly how many options the players supposed to have access to
left willow
Then flub a dodge against his DoT attack and didn't get enough space to flask
stone cove
Because the "left hand, right hand, also spells, also consumables" etc stuff starts to get a wee bit silly
warped quest
i don't notice any kind of delay
is this one of those wierd cases where keyboard is better?
frail sky
Maybe? There’s definitely no delay between dodges but from neutral there’s definitely a slight delay
stone cove
It's really going to depend how sensitive you are too this stuff
If you're like me and come from a CAG/Monster Hunter background of games, then From's delay issues and input buffering are very noticable
Used to be so much worse
atomic plinth
Just wish this game was dodge on button press and not on button release
warped quest
maybe your button is worn down some
left willow
maybe your button is worn down some
no, it's def on release, not on press
atomic plinth
...holy shit I fucking love Divine Beast