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modest berry Jul 4, 2024, 1:49 PM

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final boss ||its so funny that greatshield counters the final boss fairly well because like lore wise that stratagy for him is silly to think about he would just magneto cross the room take it and wrap you up like chewed gum in it||

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 1:49 PM

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goodpoint, could all just be for Nidhogg reference anyway

raw coral Jul 4, 2024, 1:49 PM

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Serpents seem like they’re their own kind of being, which carry their own power

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 1:49 PM

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i'm so glad we're getting omre serpents in starfield dlc

modest berry Jul 4, 2024, 1:50 PM

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serpents are like a force, an element the serpent as metaphor and legend but like for real real

raw coral Jul 4, 2024, 1:50 PM

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||We got the god-devouring serpent and the abyssal serpent||

grave plinth Jul 4, 2024, 1:50 PM

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If anything the godskins remind me of like salamanders and lizards

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 1:51 PM

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I feel like you could easily sell them on it at least

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'You mean your god makes so much skin it just leaves it places?'

raw coral Jul 4, 2024, 1:51 PM

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raw coral ||We got the god-devouring serpent and the abyssal serpent||

||They could be the same, but I personally think otherwise||

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 1:53 PM

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Is there like... A table of damage by fp cost for sorceries?

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:00 PM

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PhosHappy

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:03 PM

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modest berry final boss ||its so funny that greatshield counters the final boss fairly well b...

Verdigrass isnt magnetic, checkmate athiests? Belivers? i unno

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:04 PM

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left willow Is there like... A table of damage by fp cost for sorceries?

I think there might be, but it gets Complicated TM because there's a bunch of factors

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like Chargable (do you have Godfrey icon on, etc0

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:04 PM

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Ah, I see

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:04 PM

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pebble is peak

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:04 PM

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https://jerp.tv/eldenring/spells/

Jerp's Elden Ring tools

Elden Ring Spell Comparator - by Jerp

Compare AR and Damage for Sorceries and Incantations.

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Appernetly this tool will let you figure it out by punching your stats in

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but it may not be al lteh way up to date, though i think 1.07 was the Big Spell Buffing

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:05 PM

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modest berry Jul 4, 2024, 2:05 PM

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stone cove Verdigrass isnt magnetic, checkmate athiests? Belivers? i unno

while its probably copper or bronsze or sumn sadly it isnt actually magnets so it would be the same i fear

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:06 PM

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Also do rember that Damage/FP doesnt tell the whole story

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there's shit like cast time, tracking etc

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Like Carian slicer and Discus of light are by far THe Best generally

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:06 PM

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stone cove Verdigrass isnt magnetic, checkmate athiests? Belivers? i unno

||affected by gravity tho, pussyyyy||

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:07 PM

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b ut Carian requires you to wade into close combat, while discus hits twice and is holy (which a: means it's smacking into holy resistance twice, you have to actually get the second hit to land, and holy reistance is common)

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:08 PM

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i love the NG+ bloodstains

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lmao

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:08 PM

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Aaaaaaa

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I got her down to just a sliver of health

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But a couple of early, flubbed dodges meant I had 0 HP pots and Josh got his ass beat, so I got chipped down

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:09 PM

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not Joshua!

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:11 PM

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Indeed, Joshuia McPhee got bonk.

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:12 PM

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Discus Hitting Twice can be an upside too though - it pierces targets (I frequently got multikills with it) and it ||hits golem smiths in their weakpoint on the backswing lolololol||

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:14 PM

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I'm rly happy I decided to start using ||Igon's|| Greatbow

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It's so fucking cool for a 'mythical creature hunter' character

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:15 PM

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😌 yeah greatbows are fun for sniper nonsense

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:15 PM

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It let me beat Placi first try

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:15 PM

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they do the damage bows don't

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:15 PM

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First time ever fighting him

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I felt like a god

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:15 PM

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though the moveset can be awkward for fighting when you need to dodge

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:15 PM

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Is there a specific spell or ash that people use to farm the albies?

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:15 PM

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Wave of Gold is the usual one

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from the Sacred Relic Sword

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:16 PM

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You don't rly need one honestly

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It just takes a bit longer

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:16 PM

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you don't, it's just to do it faster

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you can just start backstabbing

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or even just shoot the bird with one (1) arrow for 11k runes and sit down

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(I generally don't farm but have definitely done this on my archer for a quick pile of runes to restock arrows with after a boss fight went poorly)

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:19 PM

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I just needed some to grab a few gear levels

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:19 PM

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obtuse halo Discus Hitting Twice can be an upside too though - it pierces targets (I frequen...

Oh, for sure. Just poiinting out it's not the full story

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:19 PM

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yeah there's definitely a lot more to spells than damage

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of the new spells, knight's lightning spear is a banger, and not just because it does good damage for its fp cost

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it also still fires the additional spears even if you get staggered out of the cast animation

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:20 PM

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... How hard is it gonna be to get more Somber Dragon Stones?

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:20 PM

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Uh. Potentially very hard.

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There's a limited number of those in the game

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:21 PM

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Do you mean the Ancient versions?

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:21 PM

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I've got 2, and I want to upgrade my Regal staff to 10, but that degree of commitment has me balking

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:21 PM

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Yeah I assume you mean Ancient Somber Dragon Smithing Stones

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:21 PM

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What level are you and do you have the dlc?

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:21 PM

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There are eight total in the basegame

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:21 PM

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125, yes

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:21 PM

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more in the DLC but I don't know the exact number

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:21 PM

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Ok, so a bit of a bugger, but probably worth it?

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:22 PM

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Level up some more, kill some ||ghostflame|| dragons

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All three drop them

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:22 PM

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yeah if this is the first one you'd be spending, there's still plenty more

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:22 PM

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Cool

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:22 PM

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Yeah I have

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:22 PM

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but don't spend them recklessly if you can help it

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:22 PM

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counts on fingers

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seeeeeeven?

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+10 weapons?

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:22 PM

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cheat engine MelonYawn

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:22 PM

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It's on the Carian Regal Scepter

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:23 PM

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apparently there are six more in the DLC

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btw

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:23 PM

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Which is just generically high scaling without any special effects to worry about

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:23 PM

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not my count but that's what the wiki says

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:24 PM

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eight actually

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:24 PM

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I guess it's worth noting that while there are eight in the base game, some of them ARE missable

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well, one of them is. one is from Latenna's questline

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:25 PM

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Yeah I missed a fews

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:25 PM

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which can be botched if you clear castle sol before meeting her

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:28 PM

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Find the Albinauric woman, she lies in a cave to the west of the Layskar Ruins in the mist shrouded land of Liurnia.

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:32 PM

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Also @left willow it's very easy to add more via cheat engine

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sxo like

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don't stress too hard

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:32 PM

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Ok

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:32 PM

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It's abosloteuy dumb that htey're limited, but in practice there are ways around it

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There's 8 in the base game and 8 in the dlc.

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:33 PM

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imo

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killing eldie beastie should give you a bell bearing to buy more

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:34 PM

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Oh, abosloteuy, it being limited, much like the respec items

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is just one of those game design decisons i stare at

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aand then i stare at the devs

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:34 PM

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ds3 had it right iwht respect being a thing you can get from invading and shit

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:34 PM

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and then i look back at the decision

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DS3 actualyl had a hard limit

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there was just a glitch, lol

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:35 PM

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oh right

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5 rebirths per ng

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fucking

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raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

junior spade Jul 4, 2024, 2:35 PM

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realistically are you actually using all 8+ in a run

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:35 PM

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Yes chad

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:35 PM

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junior spade realistically are you actually using all 8+ in a run

Depending on the style of player you are? Easily, yes.

nova smelt Jul 4, 2024, 2:35 PM

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THEY BUFFED THE CARIAN SORCERY SWORD

junior spade Jul 4, 2024, 2:35 PM

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i dont think ive ever needed more than one of the max upgrades for any run

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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Yeahl, which is great for you

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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nova smelt THEY BUFFED THE CARIAN SORCERY SWORD

Does it have proper sorc scaling?

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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but various players like to have lots of experimetnign etc

nova smelt Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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It does!!

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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Oh rad

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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Ort just like to change things up

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and the mental damage of "These are limited:" is a real thing

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see poor @left willow freezing up.

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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To the pvp mines I go with it 😈

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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junior spade realistically are you actually using all 8+ in a run

~~I mean I did but that's cuz I like build swapping~~

junior spade Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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I think working within the bounds of the game's limitations is part of the game itself

nova smelt Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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proven horizon Oh rad

At 40 int it ties for the best staff in the game but at higher int it loses out a bit to the regal scepter and lusats

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:36 PM

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Genuinley, what does this limiation add?

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Like how does this meaninguflly enhance the game in any fashion

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vs an ancient bell bearing from teh boss.

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:37 PM

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okay so how does the carian sorcery sword work

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:37 PM

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tropic stream okay so how does the carian sorcery sword *work*

iirc, light attacks are normal rapier, heavy casts spellss?

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Like if you strong attack it actually casts the sorcery you have equipped?

junior spade Jul 4, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Encourages you to do more/additional runs if you want to experience everything, encourages you to be more prudent with +10/25 upgrades since +24 is just fine, etc

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:37 PM

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nova smelt At 40 int it ties for the best staff in the game but at higher int it loses out ...

Oh wow, that's cool. I was probably only gonna go to 30 int anyway since I'll be using it on a goofy level 60 pvp build

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 2:37 PM

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stone cove see poor <@257973285390778378> freezing up.

Listen, that's mainly just the autism... I think

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:38 PM

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junior spade Encourages you to do more/additional runs if you want to experience everything, ...

Except we just saw that it was causing someoen to freeze up, and it constnatlyy causes that issue for lots of people

junior spade Jul 4, 2024, 2:38 PM

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that said i dont want to discuss this if youre just gunna try to prove me wrong here

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:38 PM

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like hands up anyone who used Marika's blessing.

junior spade Jul 4, 2024, 2:38 PM

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You have fun with that

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:38 PM

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looks up video

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oh I need this

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:38 PM

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Weridly aggressive, but okay!

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:39 PM

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stone cove like hands up anyone who used Marika's blessing.

I forgot to put it in my inventory bar 😔

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:39 PM

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tropic stream ***oh I need this***

You wanna get extra cool Rhi? it's a rapier. So it gets the Main-Gauche moveset

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:39 PM

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I definitely used divine blessings a few times in dark souls, tho

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:39 PM

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See, i have 4 of them, i've used one on accdient, and it lives in my inventoryt bar so... my mimic tear can use it

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:40 PM

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Sometimes you're out of estus but this one is the fight you're gonna win so you whip out the bonus juice and power through

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:40 PM

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That's not how my brai nworks, lol

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:40 PM

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stone cove You wanna get extra cool Rhi? it's a rapier. So it gets the Main-Gauche moveset

main-gauche moveset???

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:40 PM

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proven horizon Sometimes you're out of estus but *this* one is the fight you're gonna win so yo...

or just re-do it and get hit one or two times less so yu get one or two more flasks

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:40 PM

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You mean rapiers and the main-gauche have a powerstance moveset????

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:40 PM

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tropic stream main-gauche moveset???

THEY DO!

nova smelt Jul 4, 2024, 2:40 PM

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YES

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:40 PM

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and the Main gauche has parry equiv to that of a buckler parry as well

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:40 PM

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golden pond or just re-do it and get hit one or two times less so yu get one or two more fla...

Yes but that's less cool that using your secret bonus heal

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 2:41 PM

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Is there any point to powerstancing with the Main Gauche?

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:41 PM

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frozen olive Is there any point to powerstancing with the Main Gauche?

It's cool

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:41 PM

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Unique moveset taht lets you parry.

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 2:41 PM

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That makes sense then

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-excited-explode-happy-spongebob-squarepants-gif-12971731

Tenor

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:41 PM

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proven horizon Yes but that's less cool that using your *secret bonus heal*

i have a secret bonus hela called Erdtree Heal

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:41 PM

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It's like the wakizashi and katanas

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:41 PM

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golden pond i have a secret bonus hela called Erdtree Heal

`Mine is just "I cast blessing of the erdtree FIVE MINUTES AGO"

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Not acutally fivbe minutes, but Lord's talisman erd tree blesisng does work

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 2:42 PM

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Cause my friend showed it to me and it looked like you would be better served just having two rapiers, but being able to parry sounds useful

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:42 PM

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To be fair there's also raw meat dumplings as a secret bonus heal item

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:42 PM

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OH MY GOD IT'S SO GODDAMN COOL

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:42 PM

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they proc kindred of rot exultation, too :)

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:42 PM

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when i'm feeling esp spicy i like going "I equip primal spellblade, fire off all my buffs, unequip it for something actually useful, and my hp comes back anyway"

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Mostly i dont bother because buff management is terrrible

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but hey, sometiems it's worht pulling out the stops

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esp for shenangins like 'Ah, yes, i see your major damage in this type. I have a barreir to that. Get fucked"

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Boss: "=("

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 2:43 PM

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Could buff manage but i could also enact incredible violence instead

nova smelt Jul 4, 2024, 2:44 PM

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I definitely gotta run carian sorc sword with a magic infused main gauche

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:44 PM

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Yeah i'm mostly doing it on my beast claws

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:44 PM

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stone cove esp for shenangins like 'Ah, yes, i see your major damage in this type. I have a...

The faith elemental resist buffs are so cracked, it rocks

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:44 PM

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because well, it's funny to go full wolverine

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:44 PM

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I have patience for two buffs

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 2:44 PM

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stone cove Boss: "=("

Me when i use blackflame body for every boss and nothing else

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:44 PM

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Any more than that and i just wannafight

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:44 PM

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Bonus 60% X resist

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for like, reasons

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:45 PM

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Like golden vow and a weapon buff, sure

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:45 PM

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stone cove Bonus 60% X resist

Give radagon a taste of his own medicine

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:45 PM

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At 3+ buffs i sm bored

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:45 PM

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I hope

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Hope against hope

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:45 PM

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…why on earth am i not buying boiled prawn for my archer

nova smelt Jul 4, 2024, 2:45 PM

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i've been running a pure sorcery build lately btw (as in no weapons only staves) and its actually such a unique way to be playing the game

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:45 PM

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That if you cast carian slicer using the sorcery sword

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the sword has a hitbox

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:46 PM

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obtuse halo …why on _earth_ am i not buying boiled prawn for my archer

Because you're buying boiled crab instead clueless

nova smelt Jul 4, 2024, 2:46 PM

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imagine carian sorc sword into carian piercer though

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:46 PM

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I did mean crab

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Lol

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The better one

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:46 PM

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nova smelt imagine carian sorc sword into carian piercer though

Yeah, the mixups with the thrusting sword moveset, slicer, greatsword and piercer sound so good

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 2:47 PM

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nova smelt imagine carian sorc sword into carian piercer though

This loser moongrum actually swapping to a staff

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:47 PM

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Honestly

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I hope they backport this idea onto carian knight

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It's so fucking cool

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:48 PM

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obtuse halo This loser moongrum actually swapping to a staff

Always relaxing when moongrum switches to the staff because it means they're not gonna whip out a parry and own my ass

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:48 PM

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please from

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honestly

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for an ng+ run

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I may see if there are mods that do that lmao

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:49 PM

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tropic stream I may see if there are mods that do that lmao

swords that cast shit?

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:50 PM

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specifically for carian knight sword

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:50 PM

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Carian Knight's Sword: Capable of casting sorceries. Scales spells and melee attacks with dexterity and intelligence. Boosts carian sorceries.

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Elden Ring Reforged changes some weapons into catalysts

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like loretta's war sickle, lazuli glintstone sword

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:51 PM

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Oh?

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Loretta's?

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:51 PM

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also adds 3 more

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:51 PM

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Very nice

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:51 PM

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fist weapons that cast fire and strengthen them

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:52 PM

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Eyyyy

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:52 PM

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it also rebalances a lot of stuff

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like removign 50% strength damage bost when 2 handing

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replaced with universal 8% damage buff

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 2:52 PM

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||Metyr down|| on my Beast character, only took two tries

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Bloodflame HEavy Beast Claws stay utterly terrifying

raw coral Jul 4, 2024, 2:53 PM

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proven horizon Always relaxing when moongrum switches to the staff because it means they're not...

I fell for that shit an embarrassing number of times on my current playthrough lol

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I’m thinking about going for the Star-Lined sword and a staff, but I’m not sure which one would work best, if at all

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:55 PM

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Depends what spells you're using, for an all rounder staff though, academy glintstone is generally the way to go

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:55 PM

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Agonized reminded of how sad star-lined is

raw coral Jul 4, 2024, 2:55 PM

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Oh, what’s wrong with it?

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:56 PM

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raw coral I’m thinking about going for the Star-Lined sword and a staff, but I’m not sure ...

do demi-human since you're gonna primarily level dex for star-lined, and demi-human is best below 40 int and is on-theme

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:56 PM

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D int 😭

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 2:56 PM

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raw coral Oh, what’s wrong with it?

It scales vastly better with dex

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:56 PM

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cause it's a "katana"

raw coral Jul 4, 2024, 2:57 PM

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Though I have heard the actual AoW scales higher with INT, though that’s just hearsay

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:57 PM

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i had 72 int

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R1 spam had more dps than AoW

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mokou_dead_inside

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i had less than 20 dex

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it's fucking sad

raw coral Jul 4, 2024, 2:58 PM

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and yeah, demi-human scepter is on brand. Though visually I think the staff of loss would look baller since it’s basically a cane

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out here Yodamaxxing

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 2:59 PM

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get yoda ash too

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dobby looking ass

demi-human_swordsman_yosh_spirit_ash_elden_ring_shadow_of_the_erdtree_dlc_wiki_guide_200px.png

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 2:59 PM

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night sorcery spells are also a lot of fun to use

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in pve they don't trigger enemy dodges and they're nifty enough in pvp, too

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I like pairing them with freezing mist to help hide the cast animation

raw coral Jul 4, 2024, 3:02 PM

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also, has anyone tried Miriams Vanishing?

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 3:03 PM

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uchigatana acquired, now i just need souls

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 3:05 PM

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god I'm still so proud of my creature hunter fit

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 3:06 PM

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such a weird fucking bow lmao

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that string is not tight at all 😭

proven horizon Jul 4, 2024, 3:07 PM

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Igon is that good at shooting arrows

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 3:10 PM

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look

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bow made of dragon bone and rope

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wielded by dragon ahab

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with unique greatarrows for killing dragons

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How could I not???

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 3:10 PM

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golden pond that string is not tight at all 😭

This is just how tarnished hold greatbows apparently

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Lion greatbow does that too

raw coral Jul 4, 2024, 3:11 PM

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holy hell that is some serious grip strength if that’s their resting hand position

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 3:17 PM

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I know right

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 3:35 PM

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Does Millicent's Prosthesis work on bows?

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thinking of adding the black bow to my dex build

left willow Jul 4, 2024, 4:00 PM

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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPREQwJU4/
More tips for newbies (these remain a joke)

TikTok

TikTok · TeriyakiBlues

6706 likes, 247 comments. “ATTENTION NEW PLAYERS”

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 4:04 PM

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obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 4:34 PM

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tropic stream Does Millicent's Prosthesis work on bows?

The bonus to dex would, but I've gotten used to nothing working with bows unless it specifically says it works for bows

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winged sword insignia doesn't though so I assume no

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 4:53 PM

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that said I'd still recommend equipping a bow on characters who don't otherwise have magic or whatever

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it's a really handy utility tool

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great for pulling enemies out of problematic rooms one at a time (it only ever seems to aggro people damaged by it directly), for harassing enemies from a ledge or across a gap, and even for disabling fire pillars at range (though you can also use the shackle for that)

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depending on how willing you are to invest in status arrows it can be really nice to apply statuses too

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(poison arrows can be purchased for runes instead of having to be crafted so they're the easiest to add to your kit - you can pretty easily gather bloodrose for bleed arrows too. Rot and Frost arrows are much more of a pain in the ass)

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For rot you're going to be grinding lake of rot basilisks for Aeonian Butterflies, and for frost you have two bad options - you can gather Rimed Buds in Consecrated Snowfield (at least not a %drop, just a really sucky loop surrounded by direwolves and albinauric sharpshooters) or you can grind fallen hawks for Spiritflame Arrows

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Oh, also the best direct damage (as opposed to status) crafted arrows are the lightning ones, because the lightning damage gets affected by your bow's dex scaling

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I don't really use the lightning arrows because god I go through enough goddamn arrows and do enough crafting, but they're an option if I need them

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 5:10 PM

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obtuse halo that said I'd still recommend equipping a bow on characters who don't otherwise ...

Yeah it's nice

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And like I said for trash mobs or field bosses

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 5:31 PM

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RIP, i hardly knew ye bosssalute

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 5:31 PM

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yeah these were always getting hotfixed lmao

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as funny as the meme build that melts the final boss was

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 5:33 PM

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wonder how this will affect the weapon

opaque canopy Jul 4, 2024, 5:33 PM

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searching through patch notes now and. yeah I knew those lightning perfume bottles were a bug.

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 6:41 PM

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who knew dealing 30k damage in one weapon art and one shottinge verything was a bug foxy_laugh_giggle

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 6:42 PM

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on some extremely goofy shit atm

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on track to go fight ||Metyr|| with 2 scadu blessing

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 6:42 PM

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oh no.

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 6:43 PM

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got past ||Rellana||

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need to get into ||Shadow Keep and go to the second ruins after i finish here in the first one||

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think i'm probably going to ||take the side entrance||

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 6:55 PM

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frozen olive on track to go fight ||Metyr|| with 2 scadu blessing

what build

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 6:55 PM

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i'm on that ice grind

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 6:55 PM

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moon?

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 6:56 PM

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last pic is spoilered for dlc spell

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 6:57 PM

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oh yeah nah, that's fucking easy lmao

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||you can put on the better casting medallion even to get max casting dex and just chuck ranni moons at the boss and kill it in like 30 seconds flat 😭 ||

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i'm not looking forward to doing any of hte dlc bosses with a katana

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 6:58 PM

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i just got the ||max casting medallion||

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 6:58 PM

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||yupyupyup, bye bye finger mommy||

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also i think yu're the first person i ever saw to have whistle on items

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and not just hold Y/Triangle menu

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 6:59 PM

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i always have whistle on items

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:00 PM

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I've been procrastinating ||Metyr|| bow-only but I'll probably do it soonish; right now my walls are ||Messmer and Gaius||

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:00 PM

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now i just need to figure out how to get to ||Gaius little pre-boss room|| so i can get to the ||second finger ruins||

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:02 PM

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At 30 dex I can't really tell the spell speed talismans apart, it might be a touuuch faster

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But for most spells it seems not huge

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I guess if you have zilch

frail sky Jul 4, 2024, 7:02 PM

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I think the max spell speed is at ~70 dex and the Godfrey one gives ~30

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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AIUI Radagon gives 30 virtual Dex, Starlight gives 70

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and the cap is 70

frail sky Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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So there isn’t much of a difference at 30 dex

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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Oh damn Starlight really doin it, okay

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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i have 19 dex

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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i feel like even 20 would be close

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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so starlight does make a big difference

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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Starlight autocaps you but also the extra damage is. oof

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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it's so much damage

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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unless your Dex is that bad, I don't think Starlight is worth

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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if you're going for no-hits it's free real estate, but yeah

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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i'm sitting at 2 scadu blessing so extra damage doesn't really matter

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oh wow

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that is a significant boost at a significant cost

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:05 PM

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Stack it with

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Take Maximum Damage

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:05 PM

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might as well drop on both of the soreseals and ||Rakshasa armor||

frail sky Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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frozen olive oh wow

Fromsoft has got you covered at -29 dexterity

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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Ok the ||armor||'s real good tho

frail sky Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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||How much extra damage does the Rakshasa armor make you take anyway?||

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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And one of my favorite new helmets tbh

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||2% per item, says internet||

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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frail sky ||How much extra damage does the Rakshasa armor make you take anyway?||

apparently it doesn't actually do that at all

frail sky Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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wat

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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nevermind

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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?

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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||it just has lower than average defensive stats for its weight||

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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i lied on purpose to mislead you

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ok i thought so

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 7:06 PM

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frozen olive that is a significant boost at a significant cost

just dodge, idk

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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but it does give you a Woe icon in debuffs

frail sky Jul 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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obtuse halo ||it just has lower than average defensive stats for its weight||

Okay so it's just amazing then

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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old brook but it does give you a Woe icon in debuffs

yeah but dataminers say it does nothing lol

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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You.. gotta.. look at it

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/nod

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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blessed spaghetti

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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wah wah "defensive stats on average lower than should be for it's weight" wah wah

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Fashion souls, besties, fashion

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that's the naem of the game

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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yes

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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also insane poise for weight

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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it really does buff your damage though

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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i've been able to lifesteal fist so many nerds r1in' me

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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does that apply to all damage or just weapons?

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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I seriously considered how I could slap on some pieces for archery-only because damn it I need all the damage I can get

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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unfortunately it doesn't really work with my look

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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what i need to do really

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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It is so red

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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is just go grab like

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18 more levels

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and put them all into dex

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clearly

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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if it works for spells, I might wear that

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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i keep doing fashion in like

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a goblin cave

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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Red is okay, actually. if it had anything flowy I'd have loved to throw on the legs.

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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and then walking into the light like 'oh'

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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but it's just wearing armored legs lol

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:09 PM

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my Battlepants

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for Fighting

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:09 PM

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if i get those 18 more levels and get to 240 i should get as close to the max cast speed with radagons as it matters

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:09 PM

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like if it had a red waistcloth so it looked like a red version of this? That'd be amazing

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but it looks kinda dumb with just armor

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:10 PM

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great look tho

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:10 PM

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closest i can do is uh

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fire_knight_greaves_legs_elden_ring_shadow_of_the_erdtree_dlc_wiki_guide_200px.png

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 7:11 PM

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Found the arcane drip

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:11 PM

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Now this is a person with trustworthy prophecy

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:11 PM

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frozen olive

Yeah I've thought about grinding for that

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fire knights suck ass to fight though

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 7:11 PM

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tropic stream Found the arcane drip

?

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 7:11 PM

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OH MY GOD

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

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no lol

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 7:12 PM

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frozen olive

I bet this fucks with the drake knight armor

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:12 PM

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looks like one'a the founders of Raya Lucaria

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but gone all aberrant

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:12 PM

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tropic stream I bet this fucks with the drake knight armor

probably

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:13 PM

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tropic stream I bet this fucks with the drake knight armor

probably

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 7:13 PM

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boutta go farm it tbh

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:14 PM

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I got a chest piece by accident, but not the legs 😔

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:14 PM

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just gotta farm it out

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:16 PM

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Moments like this are why I'm glad my rules for bow-only allow a dagger to be used for crits exclusively

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because killing them is so much less agony if I can open the fight with a backstab

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and chunk off half their hp

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as a sidenote: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:17 PM

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past me was fucking stupid for having a 50/50 split on flasks

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:17 PM

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||the one in The Loft who tries to knock you off a ledge is in fact safe; if you knock him off his ledge with a greatbow, he will land somewhere else alive.||

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:20 PM

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frozen olive past me was fucking stupid for having a 50/50 split on flasks

I think I'm at 10/4 red/blue currently
Might put a few more into red still

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:20 PM

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I'm at...10/3 red/blue.

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Did I seriously not max out golden seeds? oops

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:20 PM

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9/5 and it's pushing it tbh

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i want more blue juice

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if i'm getting hit enough to drink this many health potions i'm dead

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:20 PM

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I was at 8/6 for most of my first run through the dlc but switched to 10/4 for the final boss

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10/4 and Crimson Seed

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 7:21 PM

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vestal night I think I'm at 10/4 red/blue currently Might put a few more into red still

sitting at 7/7 was NOT the play

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:21 PM

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I have Blessing of the Erdtree and often have a Lord's talisman and it's just real nice on budgeting all'at

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:21 PM

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I almost never run out of FP except for bosses

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:21 PM

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plus Blessed Blue Talisman, my cherished friend

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:22 PM

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So I rarely actually use more than one or two blue flasks

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:22 PM

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my castbar is all enormous spells

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( and Bloodboon and Multilayered Disc, but hey )

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:22 PM

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I went through a lot more FP before I realized I should be using discus of light for dungeon-clearing

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:22 PM

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( you get so many )

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i could definitely be more efficient but also

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it's fun to make guys explode

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:23 PM

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I mostly use multilayered, and Rock Sling

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:24 PM

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I should probably try multilayered, it looked pretty good

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:24 PM

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it's real good

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:24 PM

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It seems pretty good from my use so far

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Especially if they stay in the residual damage

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:24 PM

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And less demanding a cast time than other ring stuff

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jus' toss the pizza

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Also weirdly doesn't need int? sure

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:25 PM

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It also has fairly decent range

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As far as spells go anyway

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:26 PM

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Range, speed, damage, not huge fp cost, it's all around A+

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and you get to think about Krillin, everyone's friend

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:27 PM

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Still need to grab Knight Lightning Spear as well

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:27 PM

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I never found that damn thing, gotta dig through eventually

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 7:27 PM

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I'm farming monks flameblade and the legs from the messmer knights

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:27 PM

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Is Midra's spell worth it against large enemies btw?

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 7:28 PM

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fucking pray for me

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Okay the sword wasn't awful, got it

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 7:33 PM

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vestal night Still need to grab Knight Lightning Spear as well

kls is fucking hilarious

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pfff the greaves were my first drop

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 7:36 PM

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vestal night Is Midra's spell worth it against large enemies btw?

Spells’s stinky but it shits out a lot of damage in a wide area so I’d reckon it hits hard against large enemies/bosses

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 7:39 PM

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The sword is apparently a nightmare in pvp

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Aside from just conceptually

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:39 PM

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oh?

mellow silo Jul 4, 2024, 7:40 PM

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The command grab is hella good

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 7:40 PM

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It's weapon art is a command grab

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 7:40 PM

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https://tenor.com/b1NhQ.gif

Tenor

paper badge Jul 4, 2024, 7:41 PM

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tropic stream Found the arcane drip

this mf looks like thunder god cid from final fantasy tactics

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 7:42 PM

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y'all...

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heat

vestal night Jul 4, 2024, 7:42 PM

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pretty nice

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:48 PM

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Aaaalmost got Messmer bow-only, first try

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 7:48 PM

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niiiiiiice

atomic jetty Jul 4, 2024, 7:48 PM

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I NEED IT

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:48 PM

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Fun fact, i kind of assumed he’d be immune to poison but serpent arrows worked fine

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 7:49 PM

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he has that snake in him but it's a fire snake

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not a poison one

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:49 PM

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Clearly

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 7:50 PM

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atomic jetty I NEED IT

Dog ahead!

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Therefore time for fat coinpurse

vivid spire Jul 4, 2024, 7:54 PM

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atomic jetty I NEED IT

DOG

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 7:54 PM

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Damn

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I have been stricken by the curse of “good first attempt, suddenly forget how to dodge thereafter”

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 7:56 PM

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I feel that

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that feely feel, the one that feels feely

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 8:07 PM

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AUGH

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He was poisoned too, I just slightly fucked up my timing on the grab dodge and got deleted

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this is "golden vow would have saved me" close

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shame I don't have golden vow 😛

limpid peak Jul 4, 2024, 8:14 PM

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have you not got the crafting book for the consumable version?

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it's ||in a tent, in the camp next to Shadow Keep||

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 8:26 PM

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fuck ||Metyr||

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fucking omnidirectional bullshit

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love that this boss has so many ||undodgeable attacks, love that for me||

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i know i'm underleveled for this but man this sucks absolute shit

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 8:37 PM

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throw moooooooons

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 8:37 PM

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also my mimic tear is actually completely devoid of intelligence

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it fucking used the staff spin attack

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on the boss

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 8:38 PM

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it loves to style

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 8:38 PM

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that is like, ascended levels of stupidity

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that is unironically less useful than trying to use the staff as a melee weapon

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 8:38 PM

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you can always just take off the melee wep so it only has a staff, should be more cast focused

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had to do that a couple times

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dumbass wouldn't stop running at a boss and get constantly stunlocked

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 8:38 PM

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the moons are not doing much imma keep it real

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they are far too slow for this

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 8:39 PM

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slow cast, or

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 8:39 PM

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just need to be able to dodge and shit

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also ||Metyr's lasers can mutli hit if you are in the air||

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 8:39 PM

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yeah, i kidna killed it before it had a chance to do any other attacks than jumping atm y mimic

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 8:39 PM

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i lost 95% of my health bar during a single moon cast

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why is the ||phase transition attack like that ugh||

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fuck me sideways that was a fucking ending to a fight

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holy SHIT

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i got the remembrance the actual like, millisecond before i respawned after i died

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 8:54 PM

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Whew

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 8:54 PM

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defeated ||Metyr, Mother of fingers|| at 3 scadu anyway

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fuck that shit sucked but i won

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scarlet rot ftw

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 9:05 PM

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limpid peak have you not got the crafting book for the consumable version?

wait, shit, that's actually a good call

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:22 PM

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trying out the ||Metyr staff|| and it doesn't seem bad

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not as good as Rennala's but like, ||it casts all magic so that's pretty fucking good||

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unfortunately doesn't work with my aesthetic but i might use it

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 9:23 PM

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it's okay but ||doesn't keep up with the Golden Order Seal and Prince of Death's Staff, its competitors||

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:23 PM

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that makes sense

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honestly i really should just stick to Rennala's staff and Golden Order Seal

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 9:24 PM

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I'd long since gotten used to swapping off on my split caster so it was like...eh

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:24 PM

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just would love ||to not have to switch between them constantly||

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is ||Fleeting Microcosm|| good?

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it looks super cool

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 9:24 PM

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idk i didn't use most of the new sorceries

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:25 PM

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i'm going to slot it

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going to roll with this for a bit

glossy delta Jul 4, 2024, 9:26 PM

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My thought on ||Metyr's staff|| is that ||it is good enough to Work for PVE so I like it as a convenience thing||
||You will squeeze more spell buff out of two catalysts but swapping around is a gigantic pain in the dick that turned me off from int/faith in the past||

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:27 PM

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yeah that's fair

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honeslty

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my aesthetic is too important to me

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and i don't really run many incants

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 9:27 PM

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yeah it's the kind of thing where I'd have gravitated to it if I hadn't played this character for 170 levels at the point I got it

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:27 PM

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just cause there isn't much in the way of cold incants

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 9:28 PM

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and had long since mastered mixing the staff and seal the hard way

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:28 PM

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honestly even slotting Borealis is kinda egh

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Zamor ice storm can probably do its job well enough

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 9:28 PM

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I might feel differently if I'd respecced into it at level 150 for the dlc or something

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:28 PM

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actually you know what

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just going to slot a fire incant so i can actually reset cold procs

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 9:29 PM

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a classic

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:29 PM

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kinda opposite of my build but i'm just going to chalk it up to my Carian Sorceress just

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being smart

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and not an idiot

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 9:30 PM

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frozen olive Zamor ice storm can probably do its job well enough

zamor ice storm with godfrey icon is peak

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or godrick

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the charge one

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:32 PM

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godfrey icon

signal harness Jul 4, 2024, 9:32 PM

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https://fixupx.com/tendoddoggo/status/1808907421160780152?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS QUEEN MARIKA THE ETERNAL?????

Tendo of the Heart-shaped Gaol (@TendoDdoggo)

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS QUEEN MARIKA THE ETERNAL?????

▶ Play video

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Learning the secret deep lore

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(Quasi nsfw)

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At least the giant crabs make sense now

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:32 PM

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lmao

frail sky Jul 4, 2024, 9:33 PM

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frozen olive is ||Fleeting Microcosm|| good?

It’s pretty good yeah, very fun too

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:34 PM

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it looks incredibly cool i must say

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also finally back to using my ps4 controller instead of my brothers ps5 controller 🙏

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such an improvement

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 9:34 PM

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signal harness https://fixupx.com/tendoddoggo/status/1808907421160780152?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjov...

good to know that she also struggles with parkour

signal harness Jul 4, 2024, 9:35 PM

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golden pond good to know that she also struggles with parkour

She’s so real for this the platforming in ER is nasty

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 9:36 PM

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also, kinda goals ngl

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 9:39 PM

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frozen olive is ||Fleeting Microcosm|| good?

mad fuckin strong

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 9:43 PM

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hmm

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by elden ring logic

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this is an ancient dragon

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Epicssax

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 9:46 PM

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Oh god I just realized

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The divine warriors are gundyr with different weapons

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No wonder their shoulders and kicks hurt so fucking much

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https://tenor.com/view/gundyr-kick-gundyr-gif-20666983

Tenor

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:57 PM

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golden pond Epicssax

lmao

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 9:57 PM

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tropic stream https://tenor.com/view/gundyr-kick-gundyr-gif-20666983

i need to fight this chad again

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 10:02 PM

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Okay

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Time

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Fuck

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Time to try and kill Malenia

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Pray for me

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Fucking

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Pray for me

chilly forum Jul 4, 2024, 10:06 PM

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frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 10:06 PM

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lmao

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 10:07 PM

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Feeling really garbage today apparently

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I swear romina’s attacks are dodgeable by means of “whatever Jane isn’t doing”

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 10:07 PM

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currently doing a training arc powerleveling with the albinaurics

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need that dex for my casting speed

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 10:08 PM

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I’m just getting clipped by them at whatever angle I try, or running out of stam at inconvenient times

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Not to mention that she’s a constantly horizontally swaying small target

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“Small” but the only targetable part is human-sized and half my attacks go through thin air

old brook Jul 4, 2024, 10:10 PM

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She does seem like one of the worst bow attempts

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 10:12 PM

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Also i keep on getting smacked mid-jump and then she combos me to death while I’m on the ground unable to react

signal harness Jul 4, 2024, 10:17 PM

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tropic stream Time to try and kill Malenia

I’m told deflecting hardtear is great vs her

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 10:18 PM

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yoda ashes

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or messmer soldiers ashes

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are peak for malenia

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 10:19 PM

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I had luck with Redmane Knight Ogha

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Ashes are iffy with Malenia though cuz she eats them for heals

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I got around this with Shabriri’s woe on bow only

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Ugh. I should go back to messmer

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At least messmer is fun

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 10:22 PM

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something that's really funny to me is that whenever i need to just lock in to kill a boss

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i always default to a greatsword

vernal imp Jul 4, 2024, 10:22 PM

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I’m replaying SOTE on a sorcery build and it is so much easier. Night comet cheese.

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 10:22 PM

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in all of DS3 and Elden Ring despite playing caster in both games constantly

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i ALWAYS lock in by just not casting anything and two handing my greatsword

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i feel like i was destined to be a str main but my vow of playing magical characters is holding me back

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i literally beat every single hard boss in both games by just

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not doing magic

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which was the entire point of all of my builds in both games

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 10:25 PM

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Okay yeah i’m just bad today

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Flub every single dodge challenge

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This kills the crab

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 10:29 PM

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Oh my god

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I am having a bad time

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 10:32 PM

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now i am become the speed caster, 39 dex + 30 virtual from radagon icon

signal harness Jul 4, 2024, 10:35 PM

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golden pond yoda ashes

Yoda ashes?

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 10:37 PM

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Fuck it

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Summoning doesn't actually seem to be that much of a detriment

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I feel no more impulse to be honorable

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 10:38 PM

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signal harness Yoda ashes?

||little demihuman that uses Star-lined sword||

signal harness Jul 4, 2024, 10:38 PM

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Oh ||from the belurat gaol?||

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||i beat his ass first try so I assumed his ashes were lame maybe I was wrong||

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 10:39 PM

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Okay, unironically, did they buff Messmer’s grab? It’s like he just holds it and keeps walking until it connects

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The only time I’ve seen it miss post patch is when he tries it on Ogha (who is probably ungrabbable)

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 10:42 PM

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Okay I am now like 5 tries away from beating Malenia

median rock Jul 4, 2024, 10:43 PM

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signal harness ||i beat his ass first try so I assumed his ashes were lame maybe I was wrong||

has ass poise itself but does good stagger on things without amazing poise. u can see how that'd combo well here. very attack spammy too sometimes

signal harness Jul 4, 2024, 10:43 PM

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Makes sense yeah

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I think the dude was just really vulnerable to my “distract with summon and use huge AoE dragon communion incants” strat

real shadow Jul 4, 2024, 10:45 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbL2aQubNlw

YouTube

Zullie the Witch

Elden Ring - Giant Problems

As a recurring field boss, the Furnace Golems distinguish themselves for their tremendous size and unmistakable presence. You can look at an area halfway across the map and still see them burning on the far horizons.

Song used: Goron Mines - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess OST

▶ Play video

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 10:48 PM

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just died to a boar knocking me off a ledge

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crying

signal harness Jul 4, 2024, 10:50 PM

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real shadow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbL2aQubNlw

Huh

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Seeing it next to the giant makes the comparison make much more sense

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 10:52 PM

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TIL you can ||remove Anna from Jolàn's ash as well as put her into it||

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 10:54 PM

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Yeye

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||go to shaman village, go behind it, there's a pathh to yeet into the tower, doll is right there||

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 10:56 PM

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i just did it

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already found it on my own while doing my blind playthrough

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i just didn't have ||Jolàn's ash cause when i graced Queelign i got his ash so i killed her immediately to not get that cause i had Dung Eater on that character so i did not need any more ashes||

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||got her ash on this character to check it out||

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Bow-only Messmer!!!

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 10:59 PM

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big move

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 10:59 PM

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😓 this one was rough

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 10:59 PM

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BIG fuckin moves

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 10:59 PM

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also, apparently you can ||Tell Jolan about having fought Anna as long as you do it before killing Metyr???||

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this is news to me, I missed that dialogue my first time

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Deadass???

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Damn

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I will have to remember that

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:00 PM

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||It gives her noticeable pause but then she awkwardly insists she trusts Ymir and will hear no more of this||

languid tiger Jul 4, 2024, 11:00 PM

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huh, wack

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:02 PM

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obtuse halo also, apparently you can ||Tell Jolan about having fought Anna as long as you do...

yeah i got this on my first try actually

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:03 PM

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I was like that seemed important, back track time!

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:03 PM

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||i kinda hopped around doing other shit so i got as lot of pauses with dialouge instead of just mainlining that quest, and thus i kept talking to Jolan in hopes of her having new dialogue, which she did||

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||i mean meeting someone who was the same as her having never seen anyone close to her, well i had to go have a chat with her about that||

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:08 PM

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stone cove I was like that seemed important, back track time!

I mean sure, I just didn't know that ||i'd be unable to have a conversation with her after walking down the path, and beat Metyr first try||

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 11:16 PM

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I wish Malenia a very Fucking Die Please

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:33 PM

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Okay ||Metyr|| is doable i just need to suck less

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Almost did it second try even with a bunch of flubbed dodges

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:35 PM

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malded my brains out earlier doing that fight at scadu blessing 3

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i won by a hairs breadth

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and i REALLY mean that

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had to remove the sound cause it was just me saying the word hate over and over but this is how close it was

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:39 PM

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tropic stream I wish Malenia a very *Fucking* Die ***Please***

What's your build? There's a bunch of WA that will absoloteuy mulch her

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STormcaller for instance

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:40 PM

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frozen olive had to remove the sound cause it was just me saying the word hate over and over ...

actually just like, i got the remembrance by i think a second or less

tropic stream Jul 4, 2024, 11:40 PM

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stone cove What's your build? There's a bunch of WA that will absoloteuy mulch her

milady dex

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:40 PM

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It doesn’t help that ogha is dumb

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:40 PM

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tropic stream milady dex

Stormcaller should do plenty of work then

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:40 PM

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He keeps focusing on the fingercreeper adds for some reason

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:41 PM

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Oh nooo

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I have to keep rembeirng to change my weapon so my tear doesnt waste as much time spell casting

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:41 PM

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better than my fucking mimic doing the godsdamned spin attack on the carian regal scepter

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:41 PM

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but she can be surpsingly nasty with when she slips in spells, so it's all good

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Mimic Tear AI Management: a special hell

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"Remove as many items from your quick use bar, least your mimic try and use them at the worst time"

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:42 PM

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it literally two handed the fucking regal scepter to use its ash attack instead of using the Dark Moon it had in the other hand or the specially cultivated boss killing spell assortment

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could be worse

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could be my friends mimic spamming Terra Magica mid boss battle with ||Messmer i think it was||

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literally just

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standing in a corner spamming Terra magica

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Mimic Tears are ASTOUNDING in their complete inability to do anything of use sometimes

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:43 PM

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I watched my mimic tear recently just contuiinally rebuff with grease?

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like it was bizzare, it KEPT using grease

mellow silo Jul 4, 2024, 11:44 PM

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Or when you magic Max and give your mimic a weapon with a really cool AoW you want it to you only for it to actually swing the damn sword instead of actually casting anything

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:44 PM

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mimic tear actually doing something useful when needed challenge (impossible)

mellow silo Jul 4, 2024, 11:44 PM

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Or a mimic deciding "yeah how about I just... Don't heal"

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:45 PM

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this is why i swapped that moron out with Dung Eater puppet

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which is insanely cracked

mellow silo Jul 4, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Mimic I have specifically given you raw meat dumplings, please actually use them for godsake

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Mimi the Mimic has done some good work for me before

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Dung Eater puppet constantly screams doing great damage, which draws aggro like no other summon in the entire game

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and does fucking bleed

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 11:45 PM

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It has also thrown boss fights

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For NO reason

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Dung Eater was such an unfathomable shithead as a person that it's wild that he becomes the strongest summon

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:46 PM

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Okay got it attempt 5

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:46 PM

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gj!

mellow silo Jul 4, 2024, 11:46 PM

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It's the fate he deserves tbh

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:46 PM

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Turns out ||Metyr|| is very weak to bleed

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:46 PM

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stripped him of his will and made him into a productive force

mellow silo Jul 4, 2024, 11:46 PM

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Infinite suffering as a puppet slave

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:46 PM

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he does literally want to curse everyone forever so

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 11:46 PM

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He is such a shit for brains asshole that he magnetizes the hatred of all living beings

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:46 PM

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yeah i'd say it's fair comeuppance

kind garden Jul 4, 2024, 11:46 PM

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Leaving you free to whoop they ass while he gets beat

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:47 PM

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i will never not praise his aggro power

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it's crazy good

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:49 PM

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mellow silo Or a mimic deciding "yeah how about I just... Don't heal"

Oh, i made healing illegal for my mimic tear XD

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See, here's an extra dumb thing: the mimic tear c an only use items in your main hotbar

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so if your'e like me and bind your flasks to Y + direction, for easy use?

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It cannot use them.

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:49 PM

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fool

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:50 PM

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obtuse halo Turns out ||Metyr|| is _very_ weak to bleed

I mean very weak, btw

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:50 PM

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Instead, i have a genius soloution

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:50 PM

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I think it procced in like 5 arrows

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:50 PM

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me when i give the mimic the marika blessing and it does not use it at all

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:50 PM

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i leave a Blessing of Marika on my hotbar

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and i never use it myself, but the Mimic tear sure will

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:50 PM

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Anyway here's attempt 2 and attempt 5

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:51 PM

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stone cove and i never use it myself, but the Mimic tear sure will

mine does not

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it doesn't even use flasks

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just kinda rushes to its death

obtuse halo Jul 4, 2024, 11:51 PM

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I taught mine Erdtree Heal

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the one time I broke it out (final boss)

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:51 PM

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and evidently tries to use Carian Regal scepter AoW

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for some fucking reason

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:52 PM

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Yeah, the mimic is very bizzare in it's useage of stuff

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it tends to excel when you limit it's choices as much as possible

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I suspect it's because the ai is not very complicated and is using a roulette system

median rock Jul 4, 2024, 11:52 PM

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i tried giving it raw meat dumplings as a heal

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and it just popped them at full hp

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:52 PM

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I do like leaving it able to use Hefty rock pots

median rock Jul 4, 2024, 11:52 PM

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go figure

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:52 PM

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yeah

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:52 PM

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because this is deeply, deeply funny to watch

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:52 PM

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that sounds about right for a Mimic Tear

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:53 PM

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when you're having an OH NO- and then a bunch of rocks clobbers something off you

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 11:53 PM

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stone cove I suspect it's because the ai is not very complicated and is using a roulette sy...

mine keep teaching me how to play

trail sail Jul 4, 2024, 11:53 PM

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Giving it greases if you have a weapon that can use them is a good idea

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 11:53 PM

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it keeps fucking styling on bosses

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:53 PM

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trail sail Giving it greases if you have a weapon that can use them is a good idea

Except for the times it just sits there re-greasing it's weapon.

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 11:53 PM

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greater potentate energy

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dodge, hone hone hone, dodge, hone hone hone

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like bro, you won't have a weapon soon 😭

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:53 PM

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nah i'd hone

trail sail Jul 4, 2024, 11:54 PM

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stone cove Except for the times it just sits there re-greasing it's weapon.

Never had that happen so far!

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 11:54 PM

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mine killed a wyrm by getting double moon offl ike twice

glossy delta Jul 4, 2024, 11:54 PM

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This is why my int char uses the No Skill having Academy Glintstone Staff 🧠

golden pond Jul 4, 2024, 11:54 PM

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by walking around it's attacks

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:54 PM

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It's absoloutey happened repeadly to me with the holy grease and things

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i'm pretty sure it's a glitch because normally it's decently sensible about buffs

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(though mine will try and rebuff with golden vow mid battle XD)

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:54 PM

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Carian Regal Scepter is somber

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:54 PM

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I appreciate golden vow ran out!

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:54 PM

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so no AoW change

glossy delta Jul 4, 2024, 11:55 PM

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Yeah, hence why I specified specifically using a staff with No Skill rather than doing ash of war stuff

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:55 PM

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and i have 72 int and no reason to use any other staff

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plus Carian Regal Scepter is perfect for my character lore and drip

stone cove Jul 4, 2024, 11:56 PM

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I mean, in that case, you just gotta deal with mimic tear being it's werid self

frozen olive Jul 4, 2024, 11:56 PM

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unfortunately yeah

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the biggest misfortune of my main character is that it does not have dung man

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 12:04 AM

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A bit late since this is long after Zullie's video on the subject, but I just realized you can clearly see human Arms and Legs on this remembrance talisman

SPOILER_enraged_divine_beast_talisman_elden_ring_shadow_of_the_erdtree_dlc_wiki_guide_200px.webp

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:04 AM

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yeah

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honestly aesthetically i think the ||Divine Beast Dancing Lion|| is my favourite

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 12:05 AM

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it's just so impressive, too

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:05 AM

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it's such a cool idea and the visual representation is so baller

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 12:05 AM

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you can see the clambering as it 'stands up'

left willow Jul 5, 2024, 12:05 AM

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Just saw a "tip" for new Elden Ring players: choose Shabriri's Woe for your keepsake, it'll help you find any hidden enemies 😂

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 12:05 AM

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Tbf it might

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 12:05 AM

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Also, apparently this talisman buffs Stormwing Arrows?!?!?!?!!?! WHAT?!

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 12:05 AM

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like that mod that increased aggro radius 2000%

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:06 AM

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||the idea of taking inspiration from real dancing lion puppets and focusing on the ritual aspect of them and making them actual channels for true divinity is genius||

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 12:06 AM

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i'm in awe, i'm used to bows getting absolute jack shit XD

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:06 AM

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||the idea of dancers becoming one with their costume through their dance and actually becoming real divine beasts is so fucking rad||

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 12:06 AM

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left willow Just saw a "tip" for new Elden Ring players: choose Shabriri's Woe for your keep...

Okay but memes aside Shabriri's Woe is super good and I've got a lot of value out of it

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:07 AM

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time for daedicars woe

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 12:07 AM

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Use it with a support/dps spirit summon like Latenna and it'll drastically increase their life expectancy

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 12:07 AM

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frozen olive time for daedicars woe

This one I can't defend 😛

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:08 AM

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Daedicars woe is in fact completely useless in all scenarios

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i wouldn't even consider it useful for challenge runs

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i legitimately think there are no usecases for it

frail sky Jul 5, 2024, 12:12 AM

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left willow Just saw a "tip" for new Elden Ring players: choose Shabriri's Woe for your keep...

I don’t think it actually does anything unless you have summons or spirit ashes

kind garden Jul 5, 2024, 12:14 AM

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stone cove It cannot use them.

God DAMNIT

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That’s why my mimic never heals huh

kind garden Jul 5, 2024, 12:15 AM

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frozen olive Daedicars woe is in fact completely useless in all scenarios

Good old Calamity Ring

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:15 AM

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yup yup

stone cove Jul 5, 2024, 12:15 AM

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kind garden That’s why my mimic never heals huh

Very dumb, innit

kind garden Jul 5, 2024, 12:16 AM

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welp

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in the future I'll have to remember to bind a Marika's Blessing or sommat

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 12:17 AM

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You know what

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Fuck this lmao

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Her dress is not worth the gamer rage

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 12:21 AM

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wait, what?

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 12:22 AM

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Fighting Malenia, mostly for completion, somewhat to test the fashion

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 12:23 AM

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tropic stream Fighting Malenia, mostly for completion, somewhat to test the fashion

want some help?

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i can chuck a moon at her

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 12:27 AM

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I'm good lol

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I'm gonna either come back later with fresh eyes or

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Not lmao

halcyon cobalt Jul 5, 2024, 12:28 AM

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fought my way all the way through the lake of rot to realize that you can't get tishe without marrying the blue e-girl

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:28 AM

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lmao

halcyon cobalt Jul 5, 2024, 12:28 AM

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balancecat

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:28 AM

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should have married best girl

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she even supports you slaughtering your way through her family tree

halcyon cobalt Jul 5, 2024, 12:28 AM

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welp, broke up with tishe, shield soldier ashes are my new girlfriend

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NEVER

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only because I've already done the moon ending lol

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 12:29 AM

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halcyon cobalt only because I've already done the moon ending lol

go marry her anyways to get the tiems and just

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:29 AM

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i do moon ending every time

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 12:29 AM

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don't do the blue summon?

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js

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:29 AM

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only reason i didn't do moon at any point was for achievement purposes

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Ranni is the best option for endings and i get wife

frail sky Jul 5, 2024, 12:29 AM

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Well you can’t do it without doing her quest, but you can just ignore the cathedral she’s in and not marry her

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:29 AM

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it's a win win

halcyon cobalt Jul 5, 2024, 12:30 AM

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I'm already like 90% of the way to the DLC I' not gonna go back and simp now

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 12:30 AM

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i'm gonna do frenzy ending on my Motivated Incel character probably

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that or fixed golden order with burning myself to save Melatonin

halcyon cobalt Jul 5, 2024, 12:30 AM

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Melatonin my beloved

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:30 AM

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the funniest thing happened on my DLC character

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where i was going to burn myself to death to save her

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but i was playing seamless

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and my friend did it first

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so mine played the normal cutscene where she dies

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so i just had to sit there and watch them both burn themselves to death and throw themselves into the crucible

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third wheeled destroying the erdtree

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 12:31 AM

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cucked at the olympic bowl, sucks to suck

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 12:31 AM

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absolute girlfailure moment

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 12:33 AM

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golden pond that or fixed golden order with burning myself to save Melatonin

That's a very ironic name considering her complexion and fate

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 12:33 AM

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tropic stream That's a very ironic name considering her complexion and fate

i was meant to say Melanin ngl

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also

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MELATONIN IS HTE SLEEPY THING

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MELANIN IS THE SKIN THING

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 12:33 AM

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Fuck melatonin is the eeby chemical

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 12:33 AM

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GOOBER

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 12:33 AM

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pain

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 12:33 AM

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had me questioning myself

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smh

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 12:52 AM

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confirming what I always suspected: Radagon is the Hard Part

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I did die to EB here but only because I was completely out of red flasks and went into the fight at half hp\

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and it turns out I could not no-hit it first try

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 1:01 AM

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Radagon be like

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"In the Lands Between and the Land of Shadows, i alone am the parrying one"

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 1:02 AM

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So painfully true

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 1:02 AM

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oh can raddie parry?

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 1:02 AM

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Yeah he slaps aside ranged weapons and spells

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 1:03 AM

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can't malenia do that as well?

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i guess she blocks

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 1:03 AM

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they only do chip damage to him

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she dodges, more like

dusty kraken Jul 5, 2024, 1:03 AM

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I swear more enemies in DS could Actually Parry but it's rather rare in Elden Ring.

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 1:03 AM

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i'm like 80% sure she uses her sword to block sometimes

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and hten counter hit

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 1:03 AM

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malenia has better openings to tap with a bow between moves though

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if you try to hit radagon's you're going to get holy bolt'd or slapped by a followup melee zoom

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also malenia isn't immune to bleed, so you have a way to make up for lackluster bow damage if you can land enough consecutive shots

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radagon is just seriously hard

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he's not harder to dance with than he is on any other character, really, it's just that you have to do it way longer and that opens up more chances to make mistakes

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 1:07 AM

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yeah

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any fight is a race against time

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can you hurt your enemy sufficiently before they hurt you sufficiently

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the longer it goes on, the more chances you have to make mistakes

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 1:08 AM

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LEGALIZE NUCLEAR BOMBS - ranni moon

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 1:08 AM

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Carian Royal family a whole bloodline of baddies tbh

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 1:09 AM

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so true

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 1:10 AM

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a lot of the damage in the radagon fight is just rolling his holy spears too early, getting chipped by the shotgun of holy shards, getting greedy and smacked with a hammer, jumping too early on the ground pounds...

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actually maybe I should swap out dragoncrest greatshield for haligdrake

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that would be smart

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 1:12 AM

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if i wasn't already down bad for Ranni and Rennala was doing better

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that's all that needs to be said tbh, she got it

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 1:16 AM

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dream polycule is just rell renn and rann

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and me in the middle obv

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 1:26 AM

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finally...

vale mountain Jul 5, 2024, 1:27 AM

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What do you suppose is gonna be the new common pvp level now

vernal imp Jul 5, 2024, 1:28 AM

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Probably still 150.

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 1:28 AM

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200

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i'd assume 200 cause dlc is fucking rough without 60 vigor

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unless you skill check everything

vale mountain Jul 5, 2024, 1:29 AM

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vernal imp Probably still 150.

Did it eventually climb to 150? I got into really intense arguments with people who were insisting like ~75 back in 2022

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 1:29 AM

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man i could not play the game at lvl 75

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that's fucking crazy

vale mountain Jul 5, 2024, 1:29 AM

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It is because that was the dark souls pvp level

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Incidentally that is a really awesome level to be Rivers of Blood invader #3758348

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Absolute sweatlords

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I had the most fun at 150 at the time honestly

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 1:31 AM

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imagine using rivers of blood

vale mountain Jul 5, 2024, 1:31 AM

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So I am glad people eventually moved to that

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 1:33 AM

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okay this is totally winnable if I sucked less

jaunty solar Jul 5, 2024, 1:34 AM

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I got the backhand blades when I was playing the other night

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Which is what I want to use until I get the night katana

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I didn't realize the ash of war has i frames

nova smelt Jul 5, 2024, 1:50 AM

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What are some infusible weapons that get good int scaling

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 1:57 AM

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Like if you infuse them as magic or naturally

modest berry Jul 5, 2024, 2:01 AM

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not directly related to the game but the elden ring composer is doing the ost for witch hat atelier anime ive heard

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 2:01 AM

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nova smelt What are some infusible weapons that get good int scaling

a fun one: Clayman's Harpoon

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it has native int scaling which means you can leave it standard and buff with scholar's weapon, and get int scaling on the buff's base damage too

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if you want a nonstandard infusion, it also does well with cold or magic

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I have it occult infused on my int/arc caster for C int scaling and A Arcane scaling

golden pond Jul 5, 2024, 2:05 AM

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obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 2:15 AM

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YEAAAAAH DIE ALREADY

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 2:22 AM

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Got his ass

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RIP BOZO

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 2:42 AM

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fan shot is good, I had an opening and was very tired of dancing with this jerk

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 2:58 AM

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Can someone help me with Malenia, blease <XD

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It is literally just the aeonia at phase 2 start, fuck

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:07 AM

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You just have to run from that one really

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:11 AM

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I know

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Also switching to Tiche helped

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Now we are both annoying gadflies she has to chase

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:15 AM

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Thinking about Elden Ring fanfic writers and the fact that SOTE broke into their houses and defenestrated them with the lore it adds

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Miyazaki doing the New Vegas "it was rigged from the start" to all of the Elden Ring fic writers with SOTE lore

trail sail Jul 5, 2024, 3:17 AM

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||Mohg do be out here beating the allegations||

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:18 AM

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||The Marika lore recontextualizing all of Elden Rings lore entirely does not have me envying the fanfic writers rn||

trail sail Jul 5, 2024, 3:19 AM

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||How does it recontextualise everything, exactly?||

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:22 AM

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Anyone wanna be summoned to help me beat Malenia?

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:22 AM

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trail sail ||How does it recontextualise *everything*, exactly?||

||Well it changes the entire context of Marika, Queen Eternal, what her reign means, the Golden Orders hostility towards a lot of different thing, a lot of the war situations, the depth behind the Shattering, the situation with her kids, heck even grafting is hit by this new lore.||

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:22 AM

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~~or just beat her if me staying out of the way is easier~~

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 3:22 AM

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||Now we know she has 1000x more aura than the next schmuck to become god||

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:23 AM

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||i'm exaggerating a big but like, it does extremely recontextualize some of the most important shit that happens in elden ring, including the entire Golden Order, Marikas children and her relationship with them and the Shattering War||

trail sail Jul 5, 2024, 3:25 AM

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||But like, how, exactly? Marika's origins make her more sympathetic, but in no way more justifiable||

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:25 AM

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||The DLC also in general just completely changes a LOT of shit about like, so many major characters by giving us a bunch of information and context about them that we didn't have prior which also contributes to fanfic writers bwing extremely cooked post-SOTE||

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:26 AM

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trail sail ||But like, how, exactly? Marika's origins make her more sympathetic, but in no ...

||Becayse it changes our understanding of Marika and gives new context for like, basically everything she did||

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 3:26 AM

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tropic stream Anyone wanna be summoned to help me beat Malenia?

Uh, i’m down, i just beat ||Romina|| so i could swap characters and ride the high

trail sail Jul 5, 2024, 3:27 AM

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frozen olive ||Becayse it changes our understanding of Marika and gives new context for like,...

||I mean, I honestly think she comes off in an even worse light now||

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:28 AM

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||Why was she running around subjugating the shit out of everyone, why was she wiping out other cultures, why did she do that to the Omen, what was up with the Shattering of the Elden Ring, why did she summon the tarnished back to fuck with her godhood and her/his position as lord||

fleet bronze Jul 5, 2024, 3:28 AM

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trail sail ||I mean, I honestly think she comes off in an even worse light now||

||Yeah, the Greater Will having been gone from the start makes everything she did even more on her.||

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:28 AM

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trail sail ||I mean, I honestly think she comes off in an even worse light now||

||That's perfectly fair but i also never said it paints her in a better light||

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||Just a different one||

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||I'm not gonna pretend i don't have sympathy for her even with all the awful shit she did||

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:30 AM

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frozen olive ||Just a different one||

||No I get what you're saying it changes from this unknowable prophet ruler to a woman motivated by revenge||

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:30 AM

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||Just like i have sympathy for Hornsent even though his people genocided Marika's||

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:30 AM

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||Most of her motivation seemed to just be, the outer will is an asshole. Now it's oh she's also an asshole||

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 3:30 AM

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tropic stream Anyone wanna be summoned to help me beat Malenia?

Lemme know i guess

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:31 AM

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obtuse halo Lemme know i guess

blease

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you wanna get on a vc or no?

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:31 AM

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modest trellis ||No I get what you're saying it changes from this unknowable prophet ruler to a...

||This is no longer some mad god shit, we are now perpetuating the cycle of generational trauma and violence, and NOBODY is escaping it||

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 3:31 AM

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Summon password?

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:31 AM

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LANCER

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 3:31 AM

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||I feel like people do forget the Will is gone but the Elden Beast and the Fingers are very here||

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 3:31 AM

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Left a summon sign for Lady Aurelia

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 3:32 AM

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||like the whole thing with radagon trying to fix the ring, they're still very much moving things too||

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:32 AM

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||Oh yeah I did forget that. That's wild honestly||

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:32 AM

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obtuse halo Left a summon sign for Lady Aurelia

What kind of build?

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:32 AM

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||probably the biggest lore blurb from the dlc and it's from the weird finger guy||

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 3:32 AM

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Dex melee, straight + curved sword

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:33 AM

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cool

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:33 AM

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||This is no longer a story of a callous unknowable god and the outer god which puppets it, this is a story of revenge and the perpetuation of sufffering through the never ending cycle of violence that has become so vast it becomes inescapable||

umbral portal Jul 5, 2024, 3:33 AM

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modest trellis ||probably the biggest lore blurb from the dlc and it's from the weird finger gu...

||That the world is an actual planet and not a weird fantasy land?||

trail sail Jul 5, 2024, 3:33 AM

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frozen olive ||Just a different one||

||That's fair||

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:33 AM

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Any tactics you want me to use or avoid?

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@obtuse halo

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:34 AM

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||The context of Marikas home and the genocide of her people in my eyes at least completely changes the story and makss me see the shole thing in a new light||

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:34 AM

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umbral portal ||That the world is an actual planet and not a weird fantasy land?||

||No the fact that the fingers are just making everything up because the outer will hasn't spoken since like forever||

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||the outer will doesn't just take a long time, it's silent. The entire golden order is built on nothing||

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:35 AM

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||But we can't forget that SOTE also adds a lot of shit about established characters that changes things about them too or completely recontextualizes certain events||

trail sail Jul 5, 2024, 3:35 AM

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modest trellis ||probably the biggest lore blurb from the dlc and it's from the weird finger gu...

||Really, it's the remembrance flavour text that clinches it for me, since Ymir is just A Dude and fallible to his own interpretations||

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 3:35 AM

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Oops

kind garden Jul 5, 2024, 3:35 AM

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||The fingers and Metyr are iconic for starting a take-over-the-world plot for No Damn Reason||

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 3:35 AM

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||Still not sure how Empyreans come about tbh||

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 3:35 AM

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Dodged the wrong way and died bigly, sorry

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:36 AM

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I mean ur fine lmao

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:36 AM

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(Massive DLC spoilers)||Anyone who wrote fanfic that had anything to do with like, Radahn, Malenia or Miquella is deeply cooked with the information we got about them in SOTE||

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 3:36 AM

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||or how Marika Radagon have kids in general really but hey godliness||

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:36 AM

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||yeah I'm kinda surprised there wasn't any empyrean stuff in the dlc||

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:36 AM

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I did not fare much better, trust

kind garden Jul 5, 2024, 3:37 AM

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modest trellis ||yeah I'm kinda surprised there wasn't any empyrean stuff in the dlc||

||The empyrean grandam...||

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:37 AM

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You wanna keep trying or nah? I understand either way lmao

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 3:37 AM

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I put down another sign if you wanna keep going lol

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:37 AM

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cool lol

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:37 AM

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kind garden ||The empyrean grandam...||

Huh

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:37 AM

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do you wanna join a vc or should we keep communicating in pms, I don't wanna clog the chat

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:38 AM

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But yeah just

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:38 AM

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obtuse halo I put down another sign if you wanna keep going lol

ur not showing up lol

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:38 AM

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RIP Elden Ring fic writers, SOTE did not sugarcoat it

obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 3:38 AM

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Lemme try replacing it

kind garden Jul 5, 2024, 3:38 AM

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obtuse halo Jul 5, 2024, 3:39 AM

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We can vc if you want too

tropic stream Jul 5, 2024, 3:39 AM

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I say we should vc

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in horus

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:39 AM

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You know crucible knights are even weirder post dlc

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Like they don't even have their roots with the hornsent

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They just think the crucible was cool and followed Godfrey around

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:40 AM

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Tbf

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I would also follow Godfrey around no questions asked

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:40 AM

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||And Marika was cool with her Husband having a posse of knights dedicated to her greatest hatred||

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:40 AM

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frozen olive I would also follow Godfrey around no questions asked

Oh absolutely

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:41 AM

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He's got the swag and aura

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:41 AM

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Cool lion

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:41 AM

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The baddest bitch in the Lands Between

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:41 AM

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Like the lion is supposed to contain his ferocity or whatever but I bet it's still a chill big cat

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:41 AM

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Bro pulled up to the most important fight of his life with the training weights on

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Unmatched energy

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:42 AM

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modest trellis Like the lion is supposed to contain his ferocity or whatever but I bet it's sti...

Serosh seems to act as a channel for his emotions

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I still maintain that Serosh roaring when Godfrey holds Morgotts body was an expression of how much emotion Godfrey was feeling during that scene

vale mountain Jul 5, 2024, 3:43 AM

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frozen olive (Massive DLC spoilers)||Anyone who wrote fanfic that had anything to do with lik...

Nothing about it really changed my view of things honestly

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:43 AM

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Really?

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 3:43 AM

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Same for me because I do not see it

vale mountain Jul 5, 2024, 3:44 AM

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yeah

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 3:44 AM

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Glanced to the side for that section

vale mountain Jul 5, 2024, 3:44 AM

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Specific details are weirder, like the Crucible Knights as mentioned

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I remember hearing the first speculation that ||Mohg was under Miquella's spell as far back as a Zullie video like a year and a half ago -- we were all operating on the understanding he just couldn't turn that off at that point||

old brook Jul 5, 2024, 3:45 AM

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Like ||Mohg is still a freak. Just less a one||

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:45 AM

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(Post final boss spoilers)||I think Miquella causing the War of Aeonia and ruining both his siblings lives, killing their armies for the most part and completely ruining Caelid was pretty fucking significant to how i view that whole situation and them as characters||

modest trellis Jul 5, 2024, 3:46 AM

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||Idk it makes Mohg as much of a freak as the other demigods. Not the ultra menace||

vale mountain Jul 5, 2024, 3:46 AM

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frozen olive (Post final boss spoilers)||I think Miquella causing the War of Aeonia and ruini...

||I maintain that I do not see how interpreting it that way either makes sense or really adds anything to the story of the game||

frozen olive Jul 5, 2024, 3:47 AM

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modest trellis ||Idk it makes Mohg as much of a freak as the other demigods. Not the ultra mena...

||He's just bad now like the rest of them instead of the Mohglester||

vale mountain Jul 5, 2024, 3:48 AM