Elden Ring (DLC hype room)

[frozen olive]

and i think Jolly Co-operation is a perfectly based way to win

i do want to go fight the boss by my own at some point though

try to skill it through

[proven horizon]

It's really intense

Those attack combos are seared into my brain

[frozen olive]

it truly is worth the title of final boss

[kind garden]

my bleed option simply wasn't fast enough to be reasonably useable for that fight :\

[frozen olive]

||i'm confident in saying Malenia has been completely dethroned as the Strongest of them all||

[tropic stream]

Were you playing with Serpentbone Blade????

[proven horizon]

Hell yeah I was

[tropic stream]

F*ck me, I cannot imagine how frustrating

[proven horizon]

I love it, I beat every other boss with it (except gaius, I used the lizard greatsword for that)

[tropic stream]

You are

A strange little creature, to be sure

[frozen olive]

i beat pretty much the whole dlc spamming ||Knights Lightning Spear||

goated incantation

[tropic stream]

KLS is

[proven horizon]

Kindred of rot exultation and rotten winged sword mean that whenever I got a weapon art off I could do up to 5k damage

[frail sky]

[tropic stream]

I wanna make out with it

Fuck

XD

[frail sky]

Good taste in weapons Osh

[frozen olive]

it's SUCH a good incantation

[proven horizon]

I was using the snake shield, too

[frozen olive]

i actually just turned ||Rellana|| into a joke with it

[atomic plinth]

Yeah that's what I meant

[tropic stream]

Did you use that snake corved sword that heals you on hit?

[tropic stream]

same

[frozen olive]

honestly though any spellcaster build turns ||Rellana|| into kind of a joke

[tropic stream]

I was getting kinda frustrated, then noticed

Oh you're in water

Oh you're so boned

[proven horizon]

I did a bit, actually. It's another of my favourites

[frozen olive]

||fought her on my Ice sorcerer build using moon spells with 1 level of scadu and it was easy||

[proven horizon]

I have a goofy level 60 pvp character with all those weapons that I've had a ton of fun with, so I figured I'd just do that for my first run of the DLC

[tropic stream]

I think I'm gonna do the manor questline for Istvan's Scaled set

and wear everything save the chest piece

I think it'll be good drip and also I need more armor lol

[proven horizon]

I didn't actually do much pvp or invading on this character (aside from a couple of cop ring activations) so I'm really excited to do some big invading

[frozen olive]

this was my final drip of the DLC

[frail sky]

Wearing everything but the best part, smh my head

[frozen olive]

i think i look pretty fucking cool

i kinda turned out as a ||Fire Knight cosplayer||

[atomic plinth]

Is the Great Katana any good?

The moveset feels

Kinda Not Great

[tropic stream]

but have you considered wearing the scaled stuff but with ||Dryleaf Robes||

[kind garden]

the great katanas seem pretty sick honestly

[wild sierra]

i only found out after the game that the Fire Knight Hood for some reason has a passive bonus which is basically the same as the Erdtree's Blessing accessory, which is pretty nuts on a hat

[kind garden]

idk what's bad about the moveset

they've got katana pokes but huge

[frail sky]

No because I haven’t found that yet

[junior spade]

Great Katana is katana but more patient

[kind garden]

also

Ichimonjis

it got those

[tropic stream]

||Dane's robe||

|||If you don't know who Dane is, the monk guy who gives you martial arts||

[frozen olive]

huh

[atomic plinth]

It's just a bit slow for my taste

[frozen olive]

they put out a guide thing for how to level up scadu and spirit ash

[kind garden]

Lmao

Now tell the community to level vigor

[tropic stream]

Conquistador monk drip

[vernal imp]

Ranni seems like dimir colors to me.

Unsure on Radahn

[mellow silo]

Danes Hat is the best helm in the whole gane

[frozen olive]

by order of Miyazaki Fromsoft, level your blessings at the site of grace

[mellow silo]

The second is of course the Shadow Militiamen Helm

[old brook]

I'm also a fan of the traveling merchant hat just wish it had more colors or somethin

[mellow silo]

Ah yeah, I have an older character that uses that

[tropic stream]

Is the big poise cutoff still 51?

Cuz I almost have 51 in the above set even tho the chest is cloth lmao

[old brook]

Works well with my 'i wear all the stuff I find on the ground' type look (zone spoilers (barely) )

[tropic stream]

Okay I hate that the merchan't hat might work with that chest piece

Turn around I wanna see the front lmao

[frozen olive]

here is some dlc carian drip

[old brook]

is old screenie, every time I'm presented with a new vista i grab one

can't wait to get my frost carian into the DLC

elden ring truly has looks for all flavors

[mellow silo]

Le Drip

[frozen olive]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[old brook]

ogh i never get that chestpiece to drop, they just give me pants upon pants

[frozen olive]

i just beat ||Rellana|| on this character

[old brook]

also got like 10 shadow militia hats now

[frozen olive]

just sprinted straight to her with 1 level of scadu blessing

[old brook]

dang

is she not resistant to most sorcery stuff

[frozen olive]

i killed her with moons

pure cold sorcery

[old brook]

Moon Battle

[mellow silo]

This is another set I put together a while ago. Unsure if I actually like it though, it's a tad weird

[frozen olive]

fr

[mellow silo]

Man did not skip leg day

[old brook]

Greirat..

[tropic stream]

Fuck

[frozen olive]

you know what i need to do actually

[tropic stream]

embed fail lmao

[frozen olive]

Gael cosplay

[tropic stream]

When the black mage develops a taste for murder

[mellow silo]

Lmao

He is indeed a bard

[tropic stream]

dlc item spoilers

[mellow silo]

Da Hat

[tropic stream]

Gotta have Da Hat

Love Da Hat baby

It's about Da Hat

[old brook]

Also love Dryleaf weapons with Big Focking Gauntlets

[tropic stream]

insert Kingpin talking about the Mets but it's about the Hat instead

[kind garden]

shcum

[old brook]

listen he was goin through a lot

[kind garden]

he was putting Dante through a lot too

[old brook]

going through a lot and making it everyone's problem*

[tropic stream]

I have acquired Bull-Goat

I feel so powerful

<- Has never had more than 35 poise

[proven horizon]

Bull goat is great but so much of the set is quite ugly imo

[kind garden]

did some DLC pvp btw

storm build funny

[proven horizon]

Love the leg armour with the curly toes, tho

[tropic stream]

Oh the talisman

Not the armor

[proven horizon]

Oh lol

[tropic stream]

I may try the helmet, see if the drip works

prolly not tho

Oh

Wait I can't

Istvan was the last target I got before I uh

XDDDDD

[junior spade]

once you break the poise "pve soft caps" your life changes

a lot of enemy attacks hit for 50/100 poise so having 51/101 poise allows you to attack through some stuff or, just as importantly, drink your healthy juice

[tropic stream]

https://x.com/dril/status/235218148800991233

digitalronin (@dril) on X

strongest blade in the world, howeve,r it is so fragile as to shatter when handled by any force other than the delicate touch of a lesbian .

Twitter · Aug 14, 2012, 3:35 AM

I found a dril tweet for Milady

[atomic plinth]

Y'all got any tips for ||Rellana?||

[golden pond]

Chuck a moon

[atomic plinth]

Isn't she resistant to magic damage?

Given she's a mage

[golden pond]

Nothing I've ran into has resisted the cold moon of ranni shredding 30% magic resist

[atomic plinth]

That is true

Unfortunately I am too dumb and stupid to use that spell

(63 INT)

[golden pond]

Mmmm

[atomic plinth]

Can always hit up that dumbass bird in Mohgwyn

[golden pond]

Rennala hat + int talisman?

[atomic plinth]

Maybe, maybe

[golden pond]

What level and blessing are you

I assume you're done with ranni questline?

Cause you can just use the charged heavies from darkmoon greatsword with Godfrey Icon + Alexander jar shard

Ans then run shield talis (30% deff when full hp) and greatshield physical talisman

[golden pond]

Oh actually this hits req for ranni moon

It's 68 for ranni moon so int tali

[junior spade]

||dodge into her stuff, and the phase 2 tricks can be jumped especially if you run back a little for distance; she doesnt have the highest poise if you have a chunky weapon, the npc summon will increase her hp but will help split aggro if youre having trouble finding time to heal / cast||

[golden pond]

Also use mimic if you need the damage or a chunky poise damage summon otherwise for tanking

You can get a good tank summon in the dlc pretty early I think

[vernal imp]

I used a cragbladed executioner great axe on a str build with mimic tear, a physick that would help me stagger, and played super agressuve

Really tried to keep her staggered

[limpid peak]

what should I do for my next run? Heavy armour and heavy sword, smithscript weapons, or martial arts only

hmm, or light greatswords

choice paralysis

[junior spade]

light greatswords feel amazing

[limpid peak]

I used light greatswords, smithscript and martial arts in my last run and loved all of them

[golden pond]

Light greatswords cause they're pretty

[limpid peak]

wonder if it's worth rocking Alexander's Jar Shard and Rellana's Cameo with Wing Stance

or if that's just excessive

[frozen olive]

no such thing as excessive

no kill like overkill

[frail sky]

Thiollier: ||why did this man basically just go “hey if you want to die hit me up, I’ve got some good poison for that”||

[vestal night]

he's just like that

[frozen olive]

||Poison is the only thing that man knows sadly, he's kinda just like that||

[frail sky]

Unrelated, are graces a lot more sparse in this dlc compared to the base game or am I just extremely unobservant?

[steel scroll]

His job is poison like ken's job is beach

[steel scroll]

Id say it's about the same. They can be easier to miss though imo

[vernal imp]

Incredibly accurate and also hilarious.

[wild sierra]

idk there's a bunch where I went "why is there a grace here? i literally just sat at one"
and at least a couple boss rooms which spawn a grace within visible distance of another grace when you kill them 😅

there's a few shortcuts which feel a little pointless because they just link two graces together iirc

[frail sky]

So unobservant, got it

[frozen olive]

just thought about something

||Age of Stars HAS to be at least a bit awkward after you killed Ranni's aunt in SOTE||

[vestal night]

it varies by area IME

but some are also just kinda out of the way

[kind garden]

Considering that Ranni is chill with you killing Rykard I think she probably doesn't care

[paper badge]

I also wish it was a talisman

but I've heard some people say it'd be way too op as a talisman

like just being on all the time

[frozen olive]

||Ranni loves her mom though and i have to assume that Rennala and Rellana had at least a decent relationship since iirc Rennala sent Rellana off with gifts||

[kind garden]

||Rellana ultimately picked Marika's side, I think that's an issue for Ranni all things considered||

[vestal night]

make it decrease resistances or something if necessary
it should've still been a persistent effect IMO

[paper badge]

||I mean, her Aunt left the family to simp for a genocidal warlord. She might not be that close.||

[steel scroll]

||by all accounts godwyn was a pretty cool guy (iirc) so it's not like she has much ground to stand on there.||

[frail sky]

Lava dungeon: |||I don't think I'm supposed to be floating here||

[steel scroll]

This stuff makes me hungry to play more ttrpgs so I can force give the GM the opportunity to answer all my inane npc relationship questions.

[tropic stream]

dlc story spoilers ||Does assisting Hornsent get me Leda's gear any faster or nah?||

[mellow silo]

Gonna try to learn Gaius a bit more, as a summon this time

[frozen olive]

All fair points i suppose

[mellow silo]

If any wish to call on me just ping

[stone cove]

You know, I'm not actually conviced Godwyn was all that good. He seems to have been the poster boy of the golden order, and the hideous flaws that made that up are very obvious

[frozen olive]

you do HAVE to wonder

why Ranni specifically picked him

to suffer horribly and die on the Night of the Black Knives

[kind garden]

He would've won fuck out of the Shattering

[stone cove]

A lot of the speculation I've seen is ||assuming Marika also had a big hand in this, it's because he was being groomed to take over and perpuate the golden order||

[kind garden]

literally just assassinating the crown prince and heir apparent because his power was enormous and he was the obvious next ruler

[tropic stream]

Biggest threat post NotBK if he wasn't the target

[frozen olive]

suppose that's fair

[tropic stream]

Godwyn beat Fortissax who iirc was Placidusax' right hand

Man did not fuck around at all

[kind garden]

like consider: Radahn was that guy and the Two Fingers chose Godwyn first

[frozen olive]

he did also have the loyalty of the ancient dragons

iirc

[proven horizon]

Ansbach quest spoilers ||Considering miquella has been mind controlling mogh and morgott doesn't name mogh as a traitor, all of godfrey and markia's progeny may actually have been golden order loyalists||

[frozen olive]

or at least some of them

[stone cove]

Like if you take Elden Ring as a story about markias mistakes and her actions to try and right things...

[frozen olive]

Fortissax was so fucking loyal to him he literally entered his dream to try to help him return somehow by staving off death

[tropic stream]

He was the reason the ancient dragons allied with the golden order

[kind garden]

Godwyn was fucking shredded

[steel scroll]

I forgot Godwyn was fucking yoked. If it wasn't him I'd probably go after Malenia. Like I'm sympathetic but none of the other gods are ticking nuclear bombs. But then id probably end up with scarlet rot skeletons. Whoops.

[kind garden]

bro was yoked

[steel scroll]

Snap

[tropic stream]

I have a headcanon that Fortissax and Godwyn were a couple

because gay

[kind garden]

that's practically text lmao

[steel scroll]

I saw him come out of the shower once and he had an eight-pack.

[tropic stream]

Oh?

[frozen olive]

very reasonable headcanon considering textual canon

[kind garden]

I mean

okay

Fortissax was insanely devoted to Godwyn to the point of going "mhm yeah I'll fall on my sword if it alleviates Godwyn's suffering in death a little" if that's not love what is

[tropic stream]

Now that you put it like that

[frozen olive]

Lichdragon wasn't just a thing that happened, Fortissax went in for that shit by himself

[tropic stream]

It does have big Achilles Patroclus vibes

[vestal night]

they were roommates

[frozen olive]

mans very purposefully going into his dream and becoming some kind of undead there to try to help Godwyn even a little bit

[stone cove]

Yeah, there's a bunch of interesting implications around Mohg. I doubt he was much of a good guy, but he's a lot more complicated

[old brook]

Yeah, losing some implications aside, he's still king of Torture Dynasty

[kind garden]

Ansbach is so damn reasonable that it makes Mohg come across as probably one of the more normal demigods ||pre-Miquella charm||

[stone cove]

I still love Ansbach's reply when you try tell him you killed Mohg ||which is basically, yes, and? You were both contenders for the throne, you fought, you won and Mohg perished. That's the way of lordship. He has no issue with you||

[frail sky]

Oh god I’ve found a poison swamp

[golden pond]

||I work for him, but he got skill issued, so like whatever||

[kind garden]

like if fucking Ansbach, the Lands Between's most normal and sane guy, was working for Mohg, it really makes you wonder if Mohg was that crazy

[proven horizon]

Post final boss spoilers ||Considering miquella ascends to godhood, him using mogh's influence over his knights to slay the aspiring lords' finger maidens so none can challenge him could make sense||

[stone cove]

He also has a very interesting line if you summon him to the final boss and he dies ||where he tells you to take the throne and rule not for gods, but for men||

[kind garden]

||I subscribe to this take as well||

the tl;dr is that Ansbach is an enormous credit to anyone he works for frankly

[proven horizon]

||It's honestly completely out of left field that Mogh of all people gets something of a redemption arc this dlc||

[stone cove]

Which to me reads as Ansbach recognisimg that no god or Demi god has a fair claim to the throne - they're all flawed, horrible creatures really

[steel scroll]

||mogh was actually setting up a rival 'home for the meek' across from the haligtree but he had way fucking worse branding. "oh do i go to the beautiful tree sanctuary ruled over by the two most beloved demi-gods or the fucking blood pit in the ground."||

[mellow silo]

What's everyone's favorite tree?

[kind garden]

if Ansbach, most reasonable soldier of divinity, was like "yeah Marika's based actually" I'd be like shit dude probably

[steel scroll]

related: ||what the fuck is the formless mother. the dlc only raised more questions on that front.||

[stone cove]

There's some interesting implications in his giving Alburniacs horns, given everything we find out about the crucible in this

[kind garden]

||A blood deity that seems to unironically just be out there helping whoever asks||

[stone cove]

Outer god, Diety with a big D

[old brook]

||Flame Spear|| asks 'what if sword, was gun?' - Shadow Keep Ash of War stuff

[stone cove]

Don't think it's more complicated than that

[steel scroll]

||"I'm just here to be stabbed, honestly." im sure the player-character can relate.||

[kind garden]

||Blood Mommy seems to kinda just have your back if you ask||

[stone cove]

You can put this on thrusting shields, is very funny

[old brook]

that one would get me for sure

[kind garden]

what a MIX

[old brook]

'the fuck are they doing-'

[stone cove]

What if shield was gun and also Stabby

And also on fire

[old brook]

The fact it also buffs, DLC is blessed with boons

[golden pond]

it's real

[steel scroll]

throwing out unhinged lore; ||what if the formless mother is the greater will's shadow. i dunno. authoritarianism requires mass amounts of bloodshed to maintain ||

[kind garden]

nah cuz that's the frenzied flame

[proven horizon]

Final boss spoilers ||Considering we get to see Radahn in his prime, I wonder if future DLCs might feature other demigods in their prime, too. Seeing Godwyn the Golden or Pre-Shattering Rykard (who could have gone toe-to-toe with Maliketh) Could be very interesting||

[steel scroll]

@ oshlet ||i'd bet money we don't get another dlc. you'd be lucky to see an elden ring 2 that acknowledges the first outside of cryptic metaphor.||

[proven horizon]

Whatever the case I'm incredibly excited to see what Fromsoft will do after this. Scadu of the Erdtree might be the hardest they've ever cooked

[kind garden]

I'm hoping for a game that kinda condenses down from the focus on open-world

[vestal night]

Not sure there will be another DLC even
But who knows

[kind garden]

Dev interviews said there was no plan for more DLC but that doesn't mean it won't happen

anyways

[proven horizon]

I love the open world, they seriously improved their design for it from the base game

[kind garden]

Armored Core Six Answer

[golden pond]

Really hope we get something between elden ring and average soul game

dlc seems like that ngl

[proven horizon]

Not that the base game even had a bad open world, it was already really good

[golden pond]

it's open but not like super super open, all the areas are pretty condensed

[kind garden]

here's the thing

Elden Ring had the best open world of any open-world game that had come out at the time

IMO

[golden pond]

BREATH OF HTE WILD WAS 2017????

[kind garden]

then Shadow of the Erdtree proved that there was clearly room to improve by condensing and focusing those designs

yeah I don't like BotW

[golden pond]

also tbf

not a lot of open world focus games in 2022 from my memory

[kind garden]

yeah I mean "had come out" as in ever

[golden pond]

ah, iw as looking at that timeframe cause of "at the time"

[kind garden]

in fact I wanna be really clear about something, I think the whole open world craze was bad and prior to Elden Ring coming out I was of the belief that it was fundamentally flawed in a way that meant any open world game would ultimately suffer from being saddled with the open world concept

[vernal imp]

Royalty: a continuous cutting motion

[golden pond]

it's mainly cause elden ring actually fills that open world

on your way to caelid from the start, you'll see like 8 dungeons and a bunch of other shit to do

while in other open world games it's ust a stretch of a highway with like 1 thing

[steel scroll]

they should advertise their next action rpg as taking place in a single house, and then its on some piranesi shit

[golden pond]

a lot of open world games just take the basic world and scale it up

[kind garden]

Even then it kinda doesn't? There's stuff to do, but Elden Ring's greatest asset in being open-world is that it directs your attention towards the Stuff To Do really efficiently while still giving you things to look at while you're on the way

There are still yawning voids of non-level-design here and there, but they're noticeable because a lot of Elden Ring is good level design

[proven horizon]

I think part of this is compared to a lot of other triple a open worlds, elden ring's is a good deal smaller

[kind garden]

It is, and even then it could've been smaller, and the DLC kinda shows just how good it can get when the devs commit all the way to making the world as tightly packed and integrated as possible

[proven horizon]

Which is a good thing, since it also ends up denser. It's still designed in a manner where it feels really large, but it's not so big that it's empty

[kind garden]

the juicy center area of the Shadow Lands is absolute 11/10 godmode souls-borne-ring level design on display for hours and hours

absolutely sumptuous

[golden pond]

complete opposite of elden ring

[proven horizon]

Abyssal Woods and Jagged Peak have phenomenal atmosphere

[golden pond]

Starfield

[proven horizon]

Like, some of the best atmosphere in a game period

[kind garden]

listen

||if the Abyssal Woods had, like, tossed some kind of Big Fucked Up Thing that was WATCHING YOU throughout the entire area||

||it would have been the best level in any video game, ever||

[junior spade]

miyazakiiiiiii

[vestal night]

tbh, I feel some of the DLC areas are also a bit too big without much in there

though I guess most of that is just Cerulean Coast

[kind garden]

no yeah this is where I was getting

the outer ring of the Lands of Shadow has some big empty areas

[steel scroll]

i think some of that is an attempt to let the tone set in. which is hard to do in an open world game

[proven horizon]

Yeah, Cerulean Coast was probably the weakest area to me

[steel scroll]

replied to the wrong comment woops

[kind garden]

some of them have so much atmosphere that you can give them a pass but the Cerulean Coast kinda made me go "this looks awesome but I wish there was stuff here"

[proven horizon]

Cerulean coast also has a background ambience which almost sounds like an ash of war scarab so I was constantly looking around for one when I got there :v

[tropic stream]

Okay I needed that ego boost

boss spoilers ||did the golden hippo in the keep in one shot||

[vestal night]

nice

[golden pond]

so based

[tropic stream]

Top tip

He's in water

[golden pond]

now go kill the guy in the highest level of the tallest tower

[tropic stream]

A lot of people in this dlc are standing in water

[kind garden]

they sure are

they sure are.

[frail sky]

||Including at least one ancient dragon! 🙂 ||

[kind garden]

kzap

[proven horizon]

Jagged Peak miniboss ||The damn ancient dragon on the way up is standing in water and does so much goddamn damage with it's lightning moves||

[golden pond]

||mfw i struggled with that guy more htan i did with bayle (1 shot bayle with blessing 4)||

[vernal imp]

That guy took me two hours last night.

[proven horizon]

I did not end up killing it in the end, I'm terrible at fighting enemies like it :v

[kind garden]

I used my hyper mode setup to kill that guy

[golden pond]

i summoned my mimic and let it handle him

[tropic stream]

look upon my faith drip

[proven horizon]

I'd probably not have much trouble now I have a decent number of scadu blessings but I'm really not that bothered about doing it

[tropic stream]

52 poise, light load

[kind garden]

Euporia + Blessed Black Steel Twinblade, Rotted Winged Sword Insignia, Godskin Swaddling Cloth, Holy Scorpion, and the Claw Talisman

plus the raptor cloak

[proven horizon]

Very nice

[kind garden]

there is one step and it's jumping powerstance attack

[frail ferry]

man the final boss has me in sekiro mode

conuting hits and all

[proven horizon]

Yeah, final boss is something else

[kind garden]

dlc final boss kinda nutty with it

parriable btw

[frail ferry]

yeah but i suck at that and unless they added bloodborne parry its out of the wuestion

[proven horizon]

I parried one enemy in the entire DLC, not much of a parrier

[kind garden]

Golden Parry

[golden pond]

use the sekiro tear adn have fun

[glossy delta]

God I wish that was a talisman and not a tear

[frail ferry]

or a shield

[golden pond]

I wish it was a katana

like i get why it's on a tear, to limit it

but if it was a weapon imo would be better

on a tear it gets to be hella strong tho so

[old brook]

Why does the ||Lord of Frenzied Flame|| have such panache - later boss spoilies, da Woods

[frail ferry]

man the second phase really goes dark pheonix huh

[mellow silo]

I wish I could grab that tear, but wickermen are a pain in the ass

[frail ferry]

projectiles on every normal

[vivid spire]

What’s your helmet?

[mellow silo]

Scaled

[vivid spire]

Also I think once I end the dlc I’ll beat the game with different drip

[mellow silo]

From Istvan

[steel scroll]

||melting all life, death, and sin back into its primordial soup - but getting a little fresh with it.||

[vivid spire]

Remove the miquellan helm and try something different

[old brook]

Solidly on my 'if I desperately, desperately need another ||Ancient Scale||' list

[vivid spire]

Given that my entire personality revolves around him

[tropic stream]

Scaled Helmet, for a semi-Spanish look

[vivid spire]

Nice!

[tropic stream]

Which I feel fits given how

Aggressively Catholic this dlc is

[proven horizon]

||Him doing a sick pose after his grab attack is so peak lmao. The nomad leitmotif in his boss music is great, too||

[tropic stream]

Miquella's Crosses are modified versions of Celtic crosses

[vivid spire]

I wonder what it’ll take to completely shatter my blorbo’s faith

Hopefully I can beat ||Gaius||

Today

Or I’ll keep working on the wall

I’m gonna go back to my base dex faith build today

[vivid spire]

I tried to fight one.

It went terribly.

[kind garden]

Weirdly dignified and swaggy

you know, channeling Outer God madness but you gotta stay crisp and put on a show

[mellow silo]

With all the transformations in the DLC, I'm surprised we couldn't get the flame head

[kind garden]

DAMN I WISH

even as a helmet that would be sick

[proven horizon]

They're such a pain is the arse. Defeating them spoilers ||The fact that you have to get a full stagger on them twice which means 6 seperate staggers to kill them is so frustrating||

[old brook]

'I know what won't cause Sadness/Madness. Torture.' - Too many elden ring societies, somehow

[glossy delta]

You can..... ||as a torch :P||

[mellow silo]

Eh?

Elaborate

[frail ferry]

theres a torch in the manor with that head

[glossy delta]

Silly joke about this item ||https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Nanaya's+Torch||

[mellow silo]

Huh

[kind garden]

It's kinda fucked up, too

[mellow silo]

Torch build might actually be funny

[kind garden]

does like a million billion madness on the weapon skill

if you somehow hit

[mellow silo]

Powerstance double torch

[kind garden]

regrettably torches cannot be powerstanced

some bullshit imo

[mellow silo]

Little do we know the Powerstance Torch moveset is absolutely broken

[vivid spire]

I will say

Role play ability is peak

For dlc

[frail ferry]

god i wish the tree sentinel shield weapon art was reliable

[vivid spire]

Ok but

[golden pond]

god i'd love if you could hold them together and breathe stronger fire

[vivid spire]

Torch is based

[proven horizon]

Oh yeah, Ymir quest spoilers ||I felt so dumb when I finally realised where the third ruin was. I'd probably been playing too long at that point but still||

[kind garden]

pfft yeah

what a goofy trick he plays on you

[vestal night]

Wait where is it?

[proven horizon]

||In Ymir's temple, right under his throne||

[junior spade]

||breath of the wild trained me for this ||

[old brook]

You can ||Find it early, on accident|| I did! Everyone was mad v-v

He just randomly wasn't there one time, idk what triggered it

[vestal night]

Ah

[mellow silo]

Killed Gaius... As a summon

[proven horizon]

All part of the learning process

[mellow silo]

I'll try to repeat that a few times before throwing myself at the real thing

[median drift]

Ah gotcha

[kind garden]

lmao

[median drift]

So uh final boss spoilers || final fight was very cool, it took me uh 6? tries to beat but my build was probably incredibly well suited for it given what my friend who also beat the game said
I liked how he has stuff of his own moveset, some Mohg stuff and some other new things
Though second phase seems to have very few punish openings ||

[proven horizon]

I hope it's not too long before they fix gaius ||Tanking his charge on purpose because your dodge can cause it to deal double damage is very silly||

[kind garden]

Spoilers final DLC boss: ||imo the last boss was pretty solidly on the line between being hard (enjoyable) and being hard (frustrating)||

||Cool-as-fuck visuals, lots of interesting lore notes like how Promised Consort Radahn is a conjugate of Radahn, Mohg, and a little bit of Godfrey moveset, then when Miquella enters the fray it gets ridiculous||

[median drift]

But yeah I || wanted to bring the dudes since we just had a good group battle going on, saw how much his health got scaled and decided to not do that lmao ||

[kind garden]

||Yeah lmao he gets like triple health, it's an absurdity||

[junior spade]

||I did it with the dudes, it was totally worth it for the new dialogue||

[median drift]

So I just gave him an ass beating

[proven horizon]

||A few of the moves still have openings mid swing for really fast weapons, which is neat. Super punishing though. For dodging his clone moves I just tanked the fake ones and dodged the real ones||

[glossy delta]

The final boss is fuckin nuts
Likely the hardest thing they have produced yet
I had to bust out every dirty trick in the book to eke out my win

[kind garden]

||The clones were a bizarre, intriguing concept||

||I ended up busting out Impenetrable Thorns and the Staff of the Guilty||

[proven horizon]

||It actually reminds me of malenia's second stage flower clones||

[frail ferry]

its the rock toss that fucks me up

[median drift]

|| Yeah my weapon ain't fast at all, but I brought out some consumables to get a couple nice openings, if ya'll interested can post what I used for my kill ||

[vivid spire]

I got hit by him when I was dozens of feet away

Like

I took damage from NOTHING

[junior spade]

||Bleedy Sword Spear + Moore's Shield carried me to victory, with Thollier's poison and Ansbach helping me bleed him a ton||

[vivid spire]

it was fuckin wild

[proven horizon]

||Yeah lets see, I'll post my build, too||

[kind garden]

oh also Herm in your opinion what was the best/most fun boss in the DLC

[median drift]

Uuuuuuh

[kind garden]

||For me it's gotta be Scadutree Avatar||

[vivid spire]

Yall

[kind garden]

||Excellent fight, very fun||

[vivid spire]

What’s the best cosplay vibes for twink scholar

Need new drip

[kind garden]

||That or Midra idk||

[median drift]

|| I actually hated the tree lmao
I liked Midra, I liked the final boss, I liked BAAAAAAAYLE, Relanna was fun too, the only boss I actively didn't have fun against was the Putrescent Knight one, I think ||

[golden pond]

||Holy damage in question:||

[kind garden]

||Putrescent Knight is super divisive, I memed the fuck out of it with a hyper mode setup where I killed it in like 3 touches||

[median drift]

Also build for my playthrough was || Occult Great Star, Fingerprint Shield, just heavy as fuck armor, for the final fight I also brought turtle neck stuff, the golden vow item for an aura buff and livers to boost magic absorption since my holy absorption was already super high, talismans were mostly just defensive stuff Pearldrake Talisman, Marikas Braid, Dragoncrest Greatshield and Alexanders Shards so I could Savage Lion Claw his ass when I got an opening for it ||

Got a Bleedproc + hit with the AoW at one point for 12k damage, pretty funny

[proven horizon]

My build for the final boss

[kind garden]

||I think the boss I had the least fun with was probably Commander Gaius because I just had to hold that and joust him instead of doing whatever weird shit I was cooking||

[median drift]

I basically just brought my basegame build into the DLC since I wanted to do a full run with it

|| I actually killed that guy in 30 seconds and then heard that a lot of people hate him, I just instantly staggered and exploded him ||

[kind garden]

||Sounds about right for an occult/ARC build tbh||

||That setup wins big when it wins||

[glossy delta]

I did not have much trouble either, I'm unsure what I did different tho

[median drift]

|| Yeah, it was nice to bring it all the way, I used some other weapons too along the way but brought out the big guns after realizing Radahn ain't a slouch ||

But yeah was a good time

I think I found pretty much everything

[glossy delta]

Sendin my final boss clip again cuz its relevant
I made less than 5 actual attacks, outdueling it does not sound up my alley ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgIr8PdoWfM||

[median drift]

Oh yeah I brought || rotpots for the second phase too ||

[kind garden]

clever

[median drift]

|| I was wondering if he'd be weak to that and it only takes two to make him proc ||

When the lore is accurate

[paper badge]

you're specifically thinking of that one attack, aren't you

where he holds his arms out and swaggers forward

[wild sierra]

I used ||Scarlet Aeonia|| for the rp and only paid for it with my life 4 or 5 times

[median drift]

But yeah, good DLC

Was a lot of fun

[mellow silo]

My man went ||Super Saiyan||

[glossy delta]

I'm still super proud of ||Getting the right timing on that final Lightspeed Meteor attack with Vow Of The Indomitable and taking 0 damage||

But its so funny that with the summons you just wind up with ||the Status Crew, it almost feels intentional to status cheese||

[proven horizon]

Oh yeah, funny feature is the poison buildup on venomous fangs is higher with occult enchantment over poison enchantment, on top of its damage being better

[glossy delta]

Its that one meme with the three kittens
||I'm Bleed||
||I'm Poison||
||And I'm Scarlet Rot||
||THE MIQUELLA MANIACS||

[median drift]

Also there's a lot of cool weapons I wanna use for a next playthrough.... soon™️, lots of stuff I couldn't use due to stats though but looks interesting

But for now, time to take a break from Elden Ring

[proven horizon]

I'll probably do the same, I've played so much of it

[median drift]

I think I pretty much found 95% of stuff at least too so it's been a lot

[frail ferry]

unless

fine, ill go get the rest of the fragments

[proven horizon]

I finished with a scadu blessing of 17

[median drift]

I got 19

And 1 extra fragment

[umbral portal]

I got a jar of dirt

[median drift]

So 2 more I didn't find

[frail ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-i-got-a-rock-gif-10605542

[raw coral]

It’s been years since I played the base game but I think I will try the DLC

I like the martial arts

[junior spade]

dont worry the dlc will quickly break off your rust

[umbral portal]

Or else

[mellow silo]

Yoda vanquished

[atomic marsh]

I missed a quest in the DLC and I'm very sad about it

[frozen olive]

just found Carian Sovereignty

this shit is so cash

[frail ferry]

damn i missed the golden braid

[frozen olive]

this goes so well with my Carian Sorcerer build

[frail ferry]

this makes phase 2 much better

[proven horizon]

Yeah lol, arguably a vital piece of gear for it

[proven horizon]

Jagged Peak boss spoilers
||https://fxtwitter.com/EldenringAlerts/status/1806121251905421389||

[frozen olive]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-mvp-the-goat-gif-27042870

[frail sky]

||He really do just be Ahab huh||

[golden pond]

nah

[frozen olive]

HOLY SHIT

[golden pond]

he was doing fine

until SOMEONE came along and ruined the fun

so he became a Professional Hater

literaly built to hate one specific guy

[frozen olive]

THEY DID THE AHAB SONG THING WITH ||IGON SCREAMING AT BAYLE||

that is SUCH good art

[kind garden]

chat I have big endgame lore discovery courtesy of a friend

||The Grandmother mentioned in Marika's Braid isn't an unseen figure - it's the corpse-tree fusion that the braid was left as an offering at, Grandmother is a Numen/Shamanfolk who grafted herself to a tree||

||This may have something to do with why the Erdtree is a tree||

[old brook]

Million years ago remembered this (ignore the various extra weaponry)

[kind garden]

||This also explains why the whole Erdtree reincarnation thing is so big - it's an extension of Marika's shamanic beliefs to all of the Lands Between||

[atomic jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ6fVkH3qy4
spoilers for the first map region of the dlc, but nothing beyond that from what i can tell

[umbral portal]

Holy shit

I love it

[frozen olive]

this is a pretty fucking cool theory ngl

[frozen olive]

it fits perfectly

also ||WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS! WITH EVERY LAST DROP OF MY BEING!|| still goes so unfathomably hard

[frail ferry]

ok reliably getting 40% down

[atomic plinth]

...what the fuck is with those spear soldiers

[junior spade]

which ones where

[wild sierra]

Messmer's axe boys roughed me up a lot more than the spear ones, unsung heroes tbqh

like not that dangerous but then if I underestimate them for a moment they kick my teeth in

[junior spade]

those axe boys have good poise too

[vestal night]

weirdly high damage

I find a lot of the regular enemies have this weird dynamic where they die really quickly, but also do so much damage to you if you mess up for a moment

[atomic plinth]

The DLC ones

Swear to fuck they have more hyperarmor than they should

...also really not a fan of how many "half your HP is gone teehee" attacks seem to be in this DLC

[vivid spire]

Nah that’s a common complaint for tons of enemies

Fromsoft said they’re working on it

[frozen olive]

if they could fix ||Gaius hitboxes|| that would be lovely

[junior spade]

the classic fromsoft strat still works at least

[golden pond]

Yeah, basically a must for me to use phys greatshield tali and shield tali

[frail ferry]

its those ffxiv dancer lookin mfs that i hate

[golden pond]

Fire Knights

You bastards

[atomic jetty]

i love the smithscript weapons

YEET

[frail ferry]

funfact

[proven horizon]

They're super cool, I need to make a pvp build using them

[frail ferry]

the starting spin does lotta damage

[tropic stream]

5 tries on (boss spoilers) ||Messmer, I am a god||

[wild sierra]

the omens with dancer discs are very scary

[wild sierra]

one is like the first enemy in the dlc and somehow they dont stop being scary every subsequent time they turn up

[tropic stream]

Unironic drip

Except maybe the gauntlets

[atomic plinth]

LMFAO

God I GOTTA get that hammer

That shit is funny as hell

[frozen olive]

i need the SOTE boss themes to go on spotify cause i want to put them in my playlist so i can just vibe to them and get a better read on all of them

[atomic plinth]

...oh my god, ||Dryleaf Dane|| is cool as FUCK

Man OOZES cool

Fucking love him

[golden pond]

What blessing?

[kind garden]

I was fuckin' around invading with the Divine Beast helm, Enraged Divine Beast/Alexander's Shard/Two-Handed Talisman, and the Horned Warrior Greatsword

https://youtu.be/9rn-BDvH-z0

killed a bunch of ganking parties by just getting in the middle of everything and unleashing the Great Desert Storm Super Stormcaller

[halcyon cobalt]

Finally got dryleaf arts and Danes footwork through trading, now I can cruise through the main game at my own pace and get to the DLC 😄

Thoughts: Decent damage, weapon art gives you hyperarmor and staggers almost everything. unfortunately mediocre range and while it attacks very fast, its animation can feel a bit too long sometimes and possibly expose you to hits.

Solid B

[frozen olive]

i'm going to put Hoarah Loux's Earthshaker on it and become the Chieftain of the Badlands

NOW I FIGHT AS HOARAH LOUX, WARRIOR

in fact i could literally just be Godfrey as well, become the two-phase boss

[halcyon cobalt]

WHO WILL TAKE HOME THE BELT, TODAY AT WWE VS RAW AT THE ROYAL CAPITAL

[frozen olive]

i desperately need to fight Godfrey with martial arts

[mellow silo]

GAIUS DOWN

[glossy delta]

Real talk the beast claws are probably closer to how he fights but

[frozen olive]

unfortunately they don't look it 😔

[halcyon cobalt]

yea I'm leaning towards dex right now so i'm probably gonna put lightning affinity on danes footwork and blood on dryleaf martial arts.

[mellow silo]

FUCK YOU HOG RIDER, WHOSE INVINCIBLE NOW!!!

I'm so hyped rn

He's finally dead

[halcyon cobalt]

point down at him

[frozen olive]

i'm still not over how insanely cool the idea for the Divine Dancing Lion is

[kind garden]

it sure is

[halcyon cobalt]

tried to do some pvp, it seems no one cares about the coliseums anymore lol. it's way easier to go to popular pvp spots and just drop red signs.

[frozen olive]

literally a puppet controlled by dancers that channels pure untamed divinity to become a very literal divine beast

[kind garden]

that's why I put together a pvp set just for cosplaying as a Divine Beast Warrior

[frozen olive]

it's so fucking raw

and just like, such a impressive whole

sure it is just two dudes controlling a puppet but it's also a divine beast and holy protector

[kind garden]

weak aura: duelist sign at a hot spot
strong aura: fuck it we invade

[frozen olive]

they channel divinity through their dance

and the untamed rage of their protector deity flows through them

[halcyon cobalt]

Kinda surprised they didnt somehow connect the lore of the land of reeds with it

[mellow silo]

Wait a damn second... There isn't a path?

[frozen olive]

hmm?

[kind garden]

lmao

yeah

[frozen olive]

oh you mean

lmao

no

[mellow silo]

How do I get to the northeast green place

[kind garden]

not that way chief

[mellow silo]

The one with the finger ruin

[frozen olive]

there is a hint in the room before ||Gaius||

[atomic plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/song-aang-atla-hippie-sing-gif-13853815

[frozen olive]

there's a message on the ground in that side room

[kind garden]

someone's been putting those everywhere in the DLC

[mellow silo]

Dead

[halcyon cobalt]

fromsoft gamers and hieroglyphic level message crafting. name a more iconic duo

[kind garden]

spoilers: secret boss in Rauh
can we talk about how ludicrously out-of-the-way the fuckin' ||second Divine Beast|| is?

[halcyon cobalt]

Dog?

[frozen olive]

yeah lmao

[kind garden]

plus, like

[frozen olive]

i'm seriously ||wondering what the fuck it was doing all the way over there||

[kind garden]

the gimmick for that fight is uhhhh

UHHHHH

[frozen olive]

yeaaaaaaaah

[mellow silo]

||> Have Mercy. For the spirited away shamans.
WHAT COULD IT MEAN!||

[kind garden]

very cool, miyazonky

[frozen olive]

It's not great

[kind garden]

I mean

it totally was great

[mellow silo]

That tells me basically nothing

[frozen olive]

||Where have you heard of shamans before?||

[kind garden]

I just equipped ||Order Healing and a ton of Death resist||

[frozen olive]

||and who do you think you would petition for mercy for them?||

[mellow silo]

Pretty much nowhere

[wild sierra]

you may not have what you need yet then

[frozen olive]

there is one area literally and specifically dedicated to them

[mellow silo]

I have no idea who these guys are

[kind garden]

tbh

that area is ALSO

pretty fucking obscure

[frozen olive]

i disagree

[kind garden]

getting to the second Finger Ruin is actually hilariously out-of-the-way

[wild sierra]

alternately maybe you missed some flavour text on a weapon or forgot where you got it from

[kind garden]

I know three people who missed it entirely playing through the DLC

[frozen olive]

if you actually explore everything you will find it

huh

surprising

[mellow silo]

Bonny Village??

[frozen olive]

||yes actually||

[kind garden]

||Bingo||

[mellow silo]

I thought I already cleared that place out

[frozen olive]

there is something there you need and you might already have it

[mellow silo]

Is it in that silly Gaol?

[frozen olive]

no

[kind garden]

Village itself has the key

well

okay, not quite the village itself

[wild sierra]

in soapstone form because tbh im surprised that exact message didnt load for you upon entering the room
||gesture|| required ahead

[frozen olive]

it's a little bit outside of it but it's in that area

[kind garden]

anyone remember the Ringed City puzzle

[frozen olive]

which one

[kind garden]

the Show Your Humanity one

[frozen olive]

oh yeah

fun times

[mellow silo]

Got a gesture?

Huh

[kind garden]

this one isn't that dumb

[frozen olive]

no

this puzzle is slightly obtuse

[kind garden]

Show Your Humanity was ridiculous

[frozen olive]

but it makes sense

[mellow silo]

Probably for some obscure ass puzzle

[kind garden]

like actually the dumbest puzzle in any From Soft product unless there's an insane DS2 puzzle I don't remember

[atomic plinth]

Aww, that's actually kinda sweet

[kind garden]

idk I guess Santier's Spear is pretty offensive

[frozen olive]

||if you mean the gesture at bonny village, literally refer back to the message in that room||

[mellow silo]

Oh shit, door opened

I did it

Lesgo

[frozen olive]

like i said, it makes sense, you just have to do some weird thinking

connect the dots

[atomic plinth]

...also what's this referencing? Sekiro I think?

[vestal night]

yeah

I saw a similar message on some of the other long rope bridges

[frozen olive]

in fact

[atomic plinth]

Oh right, that one bit where the bigass snake destroys that bridge he's crossing

[umbral portal]

I saw one that said "visions of snake" or slmething

[kind garden]

through the silence and darkness what a thrill

[frozen olive]

it makes even more sense once you get in there and learn (story spoilers, don't read)||that Marika WAS a Shaman and that her village and people were slaughtered||

[vestal night]

I also saw a message in ||Abyssal Woods after the 'stealth section'|| saying "Good job, snake"

[frozen olive]

lmao

nice

[kind garden]

yeah it's great

[frozen olive]

the people i feel the worst for after this DLC are the fanfic writers tbh

[kind garden]

There's also an area just before you get to the Specimen Storage where there's a bit of rope on the ground that looks like a snake where I saw about 50 messages to the effect of "snake ahead", "turn back, therefore seek snake", "snake!, snake!" &etc.

yeah they're cooked

[wild sierra]

I thought the snake message was funny when I saw it and then when I saw 25 messages on the stairs imploring me to go back and look at the snake I was like "what the hell it wasnt THAT funny"

[kind garden]

oh okay you saw that too

I thought I was posting that to the uncaring void, glad someone else saw that freaky ass community moment happening

[frozen olive]

i was discussing it with someone earlier but (literally the biggest possible story spoilers, don't read unless you have finished the DLC)||holy fuck this DLC literally reframes like all of Elden Ring and the ENTIRE REASON for Marika being Queen Eternal and all of her actions, as well as literally everything related to Miquella including Mohg and the war of Aeonia||

[wild sierra]

it was so bizarre

[frozen olive]

like

Elden Ring fic writers could not be more cooked than this

[kind garden]

it really makes us look like idiots as a community for arguing over whether Radahn or Malenia is cooler huh

[atomic plinth]

guh

[frozen olive]

literally charcoal at this point

[atomic plinth]

what did I do

[frozen olive]

?

[atomic plinth]

||Something shattered and it said a rune and a charm broke???||

[kind garden]

Did you get an ominous message out of nowhere

YEAHAHHHH

[frozen olive]

heh

lmao

yeah

[kind garden]

don't worry about it

[frozen olive]

don't worry about it

[atomic plinth]

Oh god

[kind garden]

same fucking brain lmao

[frozen olive]

🤝

[atomic plinth]

Scared the fuck outta me lmao

[frozen olive]

but yeah it's nothing to worry about :)

[frozen olive]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[mellow silo]

Talk to Leda

[kind garden]

but yeah uh

[vestal night]

talk to Leda and the other NPCs, you'll see

[kind garden]

the whole community refrain of "malenia is the coolest" "no radahn is cooler" really looks fucking stupid now don't it

[frozen olive]

Rest in piece ER fanfic authors anyhow

your sacrifice is geatly appreciated

[frozen olive]

||shit's so fucked now that we know lmao||

[atomic plinth]

They're both cool thematically but horrible people

[kind garden]

||turns out, the game was literally rigged from the start||

||Miquella did us like Benny||

[frozen olive]

(the biggest story spoilers, do not read)||Funny that Wamly should say that since both Radahn and Malenia were tricked into that situation by Miquella specifically because Miquella thought Radahn was basically the coolest and most noble guy ever huh||

||completely ruined his sisters life and killed his brother for the bit, crazy stuff||

[kind garden]

||Miquella thinking Radahn was the coolest ruined his life, Malenia's life, got Mohg killed, and ruined Miquella's life too (not that Miquella needed help with that)||

[frozen olive]

||yeah it really did just ruin everything for like half of the rest of them huh, i think honestly Malenia had to have been under a charm to use her Aeonia on Radahn like that since we KNOW she fucking hates the rot||

||i truly do believe Miquella could have put a charm on her that persisted even to the point where we fight her in the main game potentially||

||i seriously would not put it past him||

[kind garden]

||I mean, considering she hugged Radahn, whispered "you gon' marry Miquella" into his ear, and then nuked the continent, I would presume Miquella charmed her into it and then knocked her out with his sleep powers later, that's why she's been asleep for a gajillion years||

[frozen olive]

also this conversation continues the mega spoilers do not click any of this without finishing the DLC

[kind garden]

holy shit, yeah, this is spoilers all and then some territory

[frozen olive]

||i feel like she probably was still charmed when she woke up, for her to incarnate as a goddess of rot like that, but then again maybe she wasn't...||

this is literally the biggest possible spoilers for the DLC

wasn't giving warnings for nothing

[kind garden]

||Maybe, but also at the point we're fighting her at, she's woken up for the first time in hundreds of years and the needle probably hasn't been working, so most likely she just goes Super Rot Saiyan because she literally has no choice||

[wild sierra]

||I guess it's not totally impossible that she was just bought into the plan, we don't know that Miquella couldn't have gone back and cured her after he ascended if we hadn't killed him, ascending did make him look more like an adult||

[frozen olive]

||yeah that's what i was thinking, it could absolutely just be her not having any more choices or fucks left to give and just full sending it cause it was the only thing she could really do||

[frozen olive]

||the hair cape is still peak fucking design||

||genuinely insanely good art direction with the boss||

[wild sierra]

||Miquella's rejection of the Golden Order means of succession and pursuit of alternate means of power was triggered by the Golden Order's apparently inability to "cure" him or his sister and there's not any reason particularly to assume that has changed... except that to get there he had to excise the bit that cared about this||

my wife saw it and said ||oh fuck its the dark souls 3 twins again
although it's also a little remeniscent of serosh||

[frozen olive]

||also there were several crosses that specifically mentioned him leaving parts of one of his arms and he had only three arms and honestly if that's what happened and why he only has three i just HAVE to question what the fucking point of that was||

[proven horizon]

||The reflection of Godfrey and Serosh, who Radahn idolised (and serosh locking godfrey's true personality away) is very cool, too||

[kind garden]

||I think putting Malenia to sleep once he had played her card was probably intended to keep her from morbing out until he finished ascending to godhood so he could cure her||

[frozen olive]

||my first thought was DEFINITELY Lothric and Lorian for sure, but it is also very much harkening back to Serosh, ESPECIALLY because Radahn was a MASSIVE Godfrey stan||

[kind garden]

||Hilarious of Miquella to reverse the Godfrey-Serosh relationship||

[proven horizon]

||He even does godfrey's rock stomp!||

[frozen olive]

||but yeah Miquella what the fuck was up with you leaving dextrals and sinistrals all over the place and missing one of your now four arms, what was the fucking point of that||

[frozen olive]

||oh yeah he does do that, that is true!||

||like there are literally two Miquella crosses that mention Miquella leaving an arm dextral and an arm sinistral respectively||

||what the hell was that about||

[wild sierra]

||I assumed that he abandoned his entire body on the way to the gate of ascension and only had two arms to begin with and only more after becoming a god but who knows||

[frozen olive]

||like i get divesting themself of everything but what was the bloody point of leaving one of your left arms||

[kind garden]

||Godhood seems to give you additional arms||

[tropic stream]

12

[frozen olive]

||yeah but that doesn't account for the lost ghost arm when we have crosses SPECIFICALLY mentioning arm parts being divested||

[kind garden]

||Ranni is most of the way there and she has four||

[wild sierra]

||he doesn't open his eyes during the boss fight so we can't know if he's still got them after discarding them||

[frozen olive]

||good observation||

[frozen olive]

||presumably not||

[mellow silo]

||apparently there's a third finger ruin somewhere? No idea how im going to find that one||

[kind garden]

||Garden of Eyes did a model inspection and he does, and they're grey (lacking Grace)||

[kind garden]

||It's easier than you think :)||

[frozen olive]

||there is yes, go back to Manus Metyr||

[mellow silo]

Oh dont tell me... ||I'm already standing on it?||

Time to find out

[atomic plinth]

This community really does never change

[frozen olive]

ok yeah

[golden pond]

Fort
,Night

Mist
Or beast!

[frozen olive]

||there is one Miquella cross in Belurat where Miquella abandons an arm sinistral and one in the storehouse where Miquella abandons an arm Dextral||

[wild sierra]

I will be honest the constant messages about sexually assaulting various NPCs, corpses, or objects aren't my favourite part of the game

[mellow silo]

It's probably ||under the cathedral, isn't it||

[frozen olive]

||seriously weird shit, why abandon just one arm||

[wild sierra]

the upsides of soapstone messages are worth wading through the cruft of people who arent veyr funny though

[wild sierra]

I think I am confused about something here because ||you are definitely listing him abandoning both arms||

[golden pond]

||Dragon Pit terminus messages tho||

||Left!||

[frozen olive]

||i may be stupid||

[wild sierra]

||sinistral = left and dextral = right||

[vestal night]

||sinistral means the left arm, dextral the right||

[kind garden]

@frozen olive ||I'm recalling there's lore indicating that the Hornsent thought that pot fusion was awesome and that the perfect combination of flesh was super cool and neat for them religiously, do you have a cite on that||

[frozen olive]

||yeah i thought that meant like bone parts or smthn, whoops||

[frozen olive]

||yes||

[wild sierra]

to be fair its terminology which people wouldnt necessarily be immediately familiar with

||here i bequeath my arm larboard||

[tropic stream]

hehe

[frozen olive]

||There is an NPC near Bonny Village that mentions that people who are put into pots become saints||

[tropic stream]

hehehehehehehehehe

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[vestal night]

Omega...

[kind garden]

remember, sinistral means lefthanded and that's why left-handed people and evilness go together

[frozen olive]

truly this must be why i am so evil

[kind garden]

"Sinister" literally comes from the word meaning left-handed

it's so damn goofy

[golden pond]

I knew my gf is evil

[frozen olive]

born that way fr

[wild sierra]

its just so disconcerting how they struggle to use the same scissors that I do, they must be up to something........

[twilit path]

Mfw when my chirality is sin

[frozen olive]

but yeah i am still fucking left questioning why (final boss spoilers)||that bastard Miquella is missing just one fucking arm||

[kind garden]

||Other than this though, I distinctly remember there's lore about how the Hornsent were interested in the merging of flesh||

[frozen olive]

||there is yes, i don't quite remember where from||

[wild sierra]

i'll be honest i assumed it was just out of frame but i didnt have time to look closely and i havent watched any like, model evaluation deep dive videos

[frozen olive]

i can say at the very least you are 100% correct about that

[kind garden]

fuuuuuck

okay so it's not just me at least

time to do an item search

[frozen olive]

||in the cutscene where miquella shows up you can very clearly see it's cut off, unless that's some mistake then that's a thing||

[wild sierra]

well ||they did seemingly build a whole tower out of them||
and a lot of the spirits and notes around gaols and ||bonny village|| compare being put in a jar to ||a process of sainthood||
this is obviously a practice that was readapted to a totally different context in the lands between, but definitely seems to originate here

[wild sierra]

maybe its ||the one dangling out of the cocoon||

[frozen olive]

also it dawns on me that ||Hornsent is literally perpetuating the cycle of suffering by hating Marika||

[kind garden]

Aye

[wild sierra]

this DLC is really about how ||essentially absolutely everyone is perpetuating the cycle of suffering||

this is true of: ||Hornsent, Marika, Igon, Bayle, the Bloodfiends...||

[frozen olive]

||The Hornsent people slaughtered the Shamans for their pots, the people of Marika. Marika rose to divinity and put the hornsent to the blade, killing nigh all of them. The Hornsent seeks revenge against Marika for her slaughter of his people, continuing the cycle||

||The jars also hold the secret to grafting i think||

[wild sierra]

and ||Miquella is trying not to but has an absolutely misguided idea about how to do this, which does not work||

[frozen olive]

||it's such a fucking Fromsoft move to make Jars an essential part of the lore||

[wild sierra]

||Yeah the fact that Marika and her descendants have unusually meldable flesh definitely leads in a direct path to Godrick||

[frozen olive]

||it may have something to do with the duality of some of her bloodline, what with Marika/Radagon and Miquella/St.Trina||

[vernal imp]

|| so is radagon the outcome of some kind of graft ||

[frozen olive]

||that is potentially the case||

[kind garden]

||Seems obvious to me that Radagon is a split off component of Marika like St. Trina, follows with the Red King / White Queen alchemical lore and the recombination would refine them into the Philosopher's Stone||

[frozen olive]

||it's impossible to say for sure but the duality of the divine royal line seems to be a re-occuring thing||

[wild sierra]

I saw a theory that I liked ||Parallelling Radagon and St Trina
in that Radagon both seems to embody qualities that Marika has abandoned (specifically: duty and adherence to the Golden order that she herself decided to create) and also directly opposes her (attempting to repair the Elden Ring, getting them both trapped in the Erdtree, and trying to kill anyone who is trying to become Elden Lord)||

[frozen olive]

gonna look in my inv for items with descriptions about ||hornsent shit||

[kind garden]

||Hilariously, Radagon used the Impenetrable Thorns miracle of the Scadutree to bar the path to the stone chamber within the Erdtree||

[vernal imp]

Tbh and this isn’t a ding at you, I find absolutely everything about this part of the story utterly bewildering lol

[kind garden]

what, the alchemical lore thing?

[vernal imp]

Radagon in general

[frozen olive]

||that is a delicious bit of hilarity||

[wild sierra]

||Radagon is characterised as becoming something of a thoughtful scholar in his adherence to Golden Order Fundamentalism by some flavour texts, in contrast to Marika's "fuck it, if it's gold and useful we'll syncretise it" approach||

[tropic stream]

mas drip

[wild sierra]

||Sacred seal made from Gravel Stone thought to be an ancient dragon scale. Enhances Dragon Cult incantations of the Royal Capital.

The worship of the ancient dragons does not conflict with belief in the Erdtree. After all, this seal, and lightning itself, are both imbued with gold.||

Hilarity of this item flavour text only surpassed in DLC by the one ||on one of Ymir's items about how he was a Carian moon scholar but decided "the moon isn't notable or unique, I was just studying it because it was conveniently the closest celestial body"||

I guess the first one didnt need spoiling its from base elden ring

||The hat of Count Ymir, High Priest. The circular design at the top represents the Greater Will and its lightless abyss, imparting increased intelligence and arcane to the wearer. Though Count Ymir instructed Rellana in the sorcerous arts, he abandoned his allegiance to the moon. "It was merely the closest of the celestial bodies. Nothing more."||
extremely comedic sentence

[junior spade]

He rules

[vestal night]

That is very funny

[grave plinth]

||Miquella is also completely incapable of distinguishing his high minded agenda from his baser indulgences||

[frail ferry]

He mmothered

[frozen olive]

everyones favourite mom

[junior spade]

The dlc has a lot of clothes with different lore if you modify them

[wild sierra]

yeah I uh

[tropic stream]

This idea fascinates me

[wild sierra]

didnt know you could alter ||Ymir's robes|| into a significantly scarier version until I saw a screenshot someone posted of their fit with that and the ||parade lion head||

[kind garden]

||wait you can alter the head???||

[grave plinth]

||give that Marika hails from the Shaman village, Radagon might have actually at one point been independent of Marika||

[frail ferry]

Damn is altering more than taking capes of now

[wild sierra]

no I just meant they were combining the two clothes items for a worrying effect

[grave plinth]

||which makes sense given that Radagon is way less similar to Marika than Trina is to Miquella||

[kind garden]

what is ||the parade lion head||

[frail ferry]

What the dancing lion drops

[kind garden]

oh okay

[wild sierra]

yeah I just didnt remember the official name

[vivid spire]

Yeah

Does it drop anything good

[kind garden]

||The Divine Beast Tornado incantation||

[frozen olive]

@kind garden ||found another source for it, the Tooth Whip. "Whip bestrewn with rotting, misshapen teeth. Filthy and seething with disease, the teeth are embedded in the whip and dose the victim with deadly poison upon each strike. As the wounds ripen, they grow inflamed and ooze pus. The flesh of shamans was said to meld harmoniously with others."||

[wild sierra]

I didn't attempt to alter any clothes in the DLC but it turns out that some of the ones you can alter do change significantly

[frail ferry]

HOW DO YOU GET THERE

Ive explored tgr entire jungle

[wild sierra]

the ||Dancer's Dress|| just becomes a completely different dress

[kind garden]

Okay, thanks

[wild sierra]

and stops being ||FFXIV dancer cosplay gear||

[kind garden]

||Behind the back of the east ruin there's a series of struts you can run across||

[frozen olive]

||the Tooth whip is found inside the Whipping hut, which is exactly the place where the ghost that mentions putting Shamans in jars and them becoming saints is||

[frail ferry]

Woe, always struts

[glossy delta]

There's dialogue in the base game that implies that ||Marika like, integrated Radagon into herself, yeah||
||One of the churches, where Melina can recite words of Marika||
||'Radagon, you have yet to become me', is the bit I remember||

[wild sierra]

you need to drop down somewhere past one of the ||golden bird warriors||

[frail ferry]

Looking at you specimen storeroom

[dusty kraken]

Pity the ||dancer dress|| has such terrible prot even before you mod it. XD

[frozen olive]

but yeah the ||Hornsent 100% put all the Shamans in jars based on what the DLC tells us which is why they got put in the ground by Marika||

[wild sierra]

when I next play elden ring (probably in a couple months in seamless coop with the wife) I will probably be committing not to just wearing heavy armour again and I will have to see how much this ruins my easygoing playstyle

[mellow silo]

Welp, I met||yr||

[kind garden]

||Yeah, 'tis fucked up||

[frozen olive]

||and the Jar rituals are absolutely where Grafting comes from as well||

[kind garden]

||Lol.||

[frozen olive]

lmao

[wild sierra]

||try finger...||

[mellow silo]

...and that's how I Metyr Mother (||of fingers||)

[kind garden]

||Take a look at the ground, there's something interesting about it.||

[frozen olive]

||Metyrs theme is extremely ethereal and divine sounding, really good stuff||

||very cosmic and a bit horror honestly, incredibly good theme||

[kind garden]

||Stray Bloodborne boss in my Elden Ring||

[frozen olive]

Miyazonki strikes again

[atomic plinth]

||...oh boy there's an ulcerated tree spirit in the Shadow Tower||

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

Why the fuck are these things everywhere

[kind garden]

one?

[mellow silo]

Hey guess what

||it respawns||

[atomic plinth]

Oh joy

Does it at least drop a lot of runes?

Or literally anything good?

[mellow silo]

Don't remember

[wild sierra]

is there??? I don't remember there being one in there, maybe I missed it

[mellow silo]

Runes mean nothing to me

[proven horizon]

Regular farming routes are probably better, anyway

[mellow silo]

It's the ||sea monster in church district||

[twilit path]

Oooooh Wamly on the way to the best boss in the dlc

[wild sierra]

oh that's not ||the shadow tower|| that I thought you meant

that one doesnt respawn ||there's just two of them||

[kind garden]

there's actually ||two of them and you can kill them permanently if you drain the water||

oh lmaooo

[mellow silo]

Oh

I'm just dumb then lol

[frozen olive]

also i learned that apparently (boss spoilers)||Bayle the dread has not ONE but TWO heads of Placidusax on his neck, biting down on it||

[mellow silo]

||CURSE YOU BAYYLE!||

[kind garden]

yup that's where the missing ones got to

[real shadow]

Speaking of respawn ||I almost had a heart attack last night when I killed those two tree sentinels and one of them fucking reappeared in the distance. Game glitched out on me I guess because resting at the grace despawned it.||

[mellow silo]

Wonder where the fifth went...

Was probably lost long before ||bayles rebellion||

Given we have a talisman of placi with four

[twilit path]

I should go look at that model again. Incredible fuckin design

[frozen olive]

it's the coolest boss design in the dlc

imo

[tropic stream]

Do I wanna bother fighting (boss spoilers) ||Putrescent Knight?||

||Do I really care?||

[frozen olive]

||yes||

[mellow silo]

Yes

[twilit path]

It's definitely him or ||Big Plant||

[wild sierra]

there's lore

[twilit path]

YES

[wild sierra]

something important to the story is behind that boss, although less necessary mechanically

[mellow silo]

I'll summon for you if needed

[wild sierra]

this boss has something mechanically important despite being technically optional (although I dont think I ended up needing it)

[vestal night]

||also man, Putrescent Knight really is Orphan on a horse||

[junior spade]

do it

[wild sierra]

it was annoying how ||putrescent knight was just constantly not in range, until I started just using destructo disk||, but I still really enjoyed the fight

[frozen olive]

also something i didn't think about, ||Placidusax is missing two wings||

[tropic stream]

The main thing is I don't wanna do the fucking run up again

I left and there's no grace

[frozen olive]

i don't know HOW i missed that

[wild sierra]

the ||20 second drop into the arena|| probably shouldnt have been repeated eveyr attempt but it was funny so I dont feel too mad about it

[tropic stream]

which means I have to get past the fucking sniper orb snakes

[frozen olive]

but like, ||Placidusax is definitely missing 2 of his wings||

||which means Bayle did more damage than i thought||

[tropic stream]

Hence why I don't wanna fight him

[wild sierra]

im afraid there is a grace literally directly outside the boss that you missed somehow
and another one between the boss and those snakes so I guess you skipped two?

[vestal night]

?
there should have been a grace right before the ramp up to the drop

[tropic stream]

What is the grace called

[old brook]

||Rauh|| seems light on graces

[mellow silo]

So, Placidusax timeline is probably
||Placidusax starts with Five Heads (three stumps on modern placi)

Placidusax loses one for unknown reason

Old Lords Talisman is made depicting a four-headed placi

Bayle rebels, takes two more of Placi's heads, which are still stuck to his neck

Placidusax now has his modern two heads||

[frozen olive]

||Bayle also took two wings||

||which are also on the talisman||

[mellow silo]

Fissure Depths

[vernal imp]

IIRC placid’s || wounds are supposed to be fatal, which is why farum azula is outside of time - so he won’t die of those wounds ||

[tropic stream]

hehehe I don't fucking have it

Pain

[mellow silo]

Again I shall offer my services to venture back to there

[frozen olive]

||behold, wings||

[tropic stream]

Nah I'm good

I'm just gonna grab the grace

[mellow silo]

You just can't miss out on what Stink Knight is guarding

[tropic stream]

I know what he's guarding

At least vaguely

It's not hard to guess lmao

[mellow silo]

Ok but still

[tropic stream]

||It's Trina.||

[frozen olive]

i don't know why i didn't think about the fact that ||Placidusax, an ancient dragon, only had two wings, but i guess the heads was just a more pressing and interesting thing||

[twilit path]

Fun wise, the only do not miss fights for me were... (Boss name spoilers) ||Cgi Yoda, Plants V Zombies, and If Hatred Were A Dragon||

[tropic stream]

||I fucking love hobgoblin yoda||

[proven horizon]

Abyssal Woods and Jagged Peak final boss spoilers ||Midra and Bayle were my favourites. The final boss was incredibly challenging, but for atmosphere I enjoyed the other two more||

[frozen olive]

||oh wow i really missed the part of Placidusax tail too cause a bit of that is also gone||

||just goes to show that Placidusax and Bayle royally fucked eachother up||

[old brook]

Enough to ||usher in a religion of hating his whole lineage||

[frozen olive]

||goes to show how stupid fucked up and dangerous Placidusax and Bayle were in their prime, considering we fight both of them post crippling||

[wild sierra]

||run over the tarnished in my toyota prius, I must||

[mellow silo]

New boss for the second DLC, Prime Dragonlord Duo

And the entire DLC is focused on Godrick

[atomic plinth]

Fought a bigass flower, flower had hands though

[trail sail]

I did the ||Putresecent Knight fight yesterday and man it sucks ass, not a fun fight at all||

[frozen olive]

||honestly i beat it very easily by having a summon bait the attacks and throwing Knights Lightning Spear at it for super damage since it was in water so i have no idea how hard it is||

[atomic plinth]

Front row seats baybee, fuck yeah

What a spectacle

[tropic stream]

Yeah honestly I'm skipping it, fuck that lol

[twilit path]

Right?? It's such a surprise, I laughed my ass off

[frozen olive]

i couldn't recommend more not to do that but it's up to you