Elden Ring (DLC hype room)

[jaunty solar]

Marika covets gold because it's a preserving force, all these ghosts coming out of the tree like Godfrey are perfectly preserved in their prime

Meanwhile the people in the land of shadow are like

Ghosts

[steel scroll]

||walking up to the pope with the demiurge's severed head. this not impact your religious views? at all? not even a little bit????||

[jaunty solar]

Barely even physical

[golden pond]

||Hitting Rennala with her sister's moons and she doesn't bat a fucking eye||

[proven horizon]

I'll probably keep cracking away at it but I'm almost prepared to consider the final boss to be stronger than Malenia

My ass is being handed to me

[kind garden]

This is likely

[jaunty solar]

And we know that the grace of gold just doesn't reach into the land of the shadow

[kind garden]

Final boss ain't playing

[frozen olive]

||Pulling out Midras head and doing some minor mischief||

[kind garden]

okay now you're making stuff up

[jaunty solar]

Read the Scadutree fragments

[proven horizon]

I have finally worked out how to dodge some of their phase 2 moves

[kind garden]

A splinter of the Scadutree that contains golden brilliance. Acquired at the Church of Marika and other places in the realm of shadow. Consume these at sites of grace to bolster your Scadutree Blessing. The Scadutree Blessing bolsters the bearer's ability to deal and negate damage but has no influence outside the realm of shadow. It is said that when the Scadutree crumbles from its core that it will scatter across the entire realm of shadow. The people of the Erdtree collect the splinters and use them in prayer.

okay now what

[steel scroll]

final boss phase 2 ||i dont know if there's a roll timing to dodge the nuclear bomb, or are you just supposed to fucking BOOK IT asap?||

[stone cove]

I have killed a second old man.

[kind garden]

Which nuke

[stone cove]

...Killing a lot of old men in this dlc

[golden pond]

old men die hard

[steel scroll]

||the massive pillar of light where he t-poses in the air first||

[golden pond]

so many parts

[kind garden]

Run for your life

pick a direction and hoof it

[frozen olive]

Shield

||You can block it||

[steel scroll]

thought it would be one of those. and i thought the run-away on his ||gravity pull -> burst|| was harsh

[jaunty solar]

Wrong item give me a moment

It's something picked up from the first area

[frozen olive]

||Needs to be the right shield, but you can 100% block the t-pose nuke||

[kind garden]

because like. people have runes in the DLC areas. the Lands of Shadow aren't devoid of it

[glossy delta]

One shadow rune item even says
'soldiers sent to the lands of shadow were awarded with grace aplenty, but were not honored in death'

[kind garden]

they were abandoned by Marika, though. that was a big deal for a lot of people

the Erdtree to quell the fears of their flock to magnificent effect.```
from the Iris of Grace description

[atomic marsh]

I have reached a new boss who is fucking kicking my ass

[kind garden]

DLC in a nutshell

[atomic marsh]

So far only 4 bosses have been "difficult" for me to the point where I felt frustrated

[glossy delta]

The scadutree is repeatedly noted to be immensely holy, I assume it's basically an extension of the erdtrees influence

[atomic marsh]

2 of them are in the ||Shadow Keep|| and 2 of them are the ||Jagged Peak||

[kind garden]

the Scadutree is probably the real Erdtree

tbh

[glossy delta]

In addition to the ol stealth cloak

[kind garden]

if you think about it

like that's probably the real thing that exists

since we know the Erdtree is a weird illusory thingie

[golden pond]

||i'm so fucking happy rellana's dual greatswords are light greatswords||

||i fuck so hard with actual longswords||

[steel scroll]

on the skidootree (full dlc spoilers). ||im surprised we don't get to see the crucible, like i always assumed it was a physical thing. that maybe the erdtree is leeching off of.||

[kind garden]

||The Crucible is the double helix of DNA. This was revealed to me in a dream.||

[steel scroll]

least cooked fromsoft scholar. i dig it though

[kind garden]

More seriously, I've no fucking idea what the crucible is. It has currents that are spirals? Fucking hell

[steel scroll]

genuinely sounds like some late-part jojo nonsense
(jojolion part 8 spoilers)

[glossy delta]

tbh the focus on spirals being because the crucible-dna connection is kind of big brain

[kind garden]

my shitposts come from the heart

[jaunty solar]

There's grace in the land of the shadow, but it's in trace and scarce amounts

Brought by people who once lived in the lands between

[kind garden]

yeah Marika abandoned them

[jaunty solar]

It's not native

It has to be bestowed by practitioners

Where it happens to most people in Limgrave

In fact, most eye textures have a streak of gold in them

[steel scroll]

oh, patch note: scadu blessing buff curve is a little different now. early levels increase more and later levels increase a little more gradually

[jaunty solar]

Which you would think is to save on rendering costs as a reflection of the erdtree

But it's even in the eyes of golden order characters in places where the erdtree isn't visible

[kind garden]

The Scadutree is the shadow of the Erdtree. Born of dark notions that bear no sense of Order, that twist and bend its stock, rendering it brittle.
wait this is kinda cooked though I gotta think about this specifically

I didn't look at that Remembrance's item description

[glossy delta]

Oh shit there's a patch??

[kind garden]

oh no

can't wait for the patch discourse

[glossy delta]

Please give the carian sorcery sword scaling
Please
I need it to be good

[jaunty solar]

I wonder if they bonked the knight that keeps killing everyone at the start

[steel scroll]

the change i mentioned is the only balance chance

[glossy delta]

GACK

[steel scroll]

https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-calibration-update-1122?utm_source=SM_Official&utm_medium=official_post&utm_campaign=ER_CalibrationUpdate_1122

[kind garden]

HAH

can't wait for people to make up things that got changed in the patch anyways

[fleet bronze]

Yeah this is just a super quick patch because their data was showing that they probably hadnt given enough scadutree fragments before the Lion and Rellana, at least if you're not deliberately going around them

[dusty kraken]

Yeah, that's pretty minor.

But will likely help a bit

[jaunty solar]

It's been funny weird to see people struggling with the DLC so much

I kinda breezed through it with minimal cheese

[kind garden]

only the final boss presented me with the need to bring out the cheddar

[jaunty solar]

Messmer took me all of 2 attempts

[fleet bronze]

I actually find it kind of interesting that they decided to really push exploration/deliberately avoiding the main plot in the DLC whereas in the base game it's very easy to become overleveled for the main areas if you do all the side activities

[golden pond]

what blessing were you on for htem lmoa

[fleet bronze]

12

[kind garden]

I could've just grinded and forced a win if I was willing to sink more time into it, but like

[golden pond]

my ass beat them with blessing 3 😭

[fleet bronze]

But that's because I just skipped Rellanna and went straight in to Altus

[kind garden]

fuck it, I had the sauce so I'll use the sauce

[dusty kraken]

But yeah, is anyone willing to trade a +0 Fire Perfume Bottle for my +25 Fire Perfume Bottle? Trying to get items to a low level character to play with them but I forgot that you can't transfer items with a level of upgrades beyond what the recieving character has.

I am a derp

[jaunty solar]

God those Lion knights are some shit

Also question, what are the lore implications of ||the secret rite||

||when and who has this been done on before||

||I guess we do see Marika doing, something at the same gateway in the trailer||

[golden pond]

😭 omfg

did y'all use the weapon from the ||southern nameless mausoleum||

||it's weapon art animations are broken, when the dance starts to loop your character's legs no longer dance, they just walk so your torso is just spinning rapidly||

[dusty kraken]

||Dance Dance Dance!||

[steel scroll]

||the fact that we don't have some god-like figure in the hornsent would imply marika was the first to actually achieve it.||

[dusty kraken]

||I've not actually run into the bug||

[golden pond]

might be cause i don't meet dex req

horrifying

(weapon art spoilers i guess)

[kind garden]

I'd like to point out, by the way, that the ||Divine Gate is made of Hornsent corpses||

[golden pond]

ok yeah, ngl

[kind garden]

make of that what you wil

[golden pond]

||i fuck with rellana's wa now that i got alex jar shard and her cameo to boost it's damage by 32% lmao||

[stone cove]

So random lore thought:

Does Rani actually have a great rune?

[left willow]

Doesn't she have a ||death rune||?

Which (I think) destroys or overwrites or ??? one's great rune

[golden pond]

||She casted it aside, that's i think all we got||

[steel scroll]

||it's likely a useless scrap like Miquella's. As for the rune of death, she only got a fragment of it.||

[golden pond]

ooh also

what's a good seal if i'm going for an int with some faith build
using int for main thing but wanted to bring along some faith spells for faith damage types

i assume different seals for different types cause of the additional boosts to say fundamentalist incants nad stuff

[jaunty solar]

HEH

Guy doing an elden ring challenge run

He says "I get these comments on stream 'hope this goes better than when I did it' WHY ARE YOU DOING IT? We get paid to do it! This is proof that a universal income social safety net wouldn't hinder productivity."

[fleet bronze]

Naw the Golden Order seal is still your best bet for overall scaling

It's also not super hard to get your hands on if you can get to the Altus Plateau, which is nice

[golden pond]

Doesn't order have better incant boost cause S scaling?

Keep in mind I'm not going higher than 30 fth methinks

[golden pond]

having +12 flask should help a lot in the dlc

[dusty kraken]

I really should finish off my flask. I've got a +8 flask. XD

[golden pond]

😭 i'm at +7

[wild sierra]

If you're keeping low faith and high something else you'll pretty much always want the seal which combines faith with something else :p

[golden pond]

ah oke

but yeah
810 hp at +12

700 at +7 lul

[steel scroll]

there's a basis (and ive seen instances) for shipping messmer and rellana, and i just realised this is doing silly shit to marika's family tree again

[steep wing]

I think my hot take is that "Shadow of the Erdtree" and "Crab becomes Eldenlord" give you the same amount of points in Scrabble and is therefore highly likely

[golden pond]

Physical ahead
Therefore time for crab

[steel scroll]

love that fromsoft just puts their silly little guys in all their games. fucked up dogs. crabs.
fully expecting tortoises to make a return in the next game regardless of genre.

[golden pond]

||Bayle at rank 4, thoughts? doable with my dumb ass?||

[steel scroll]

||it'll probably be an uphill battle. i wouldn't bother before 10 but im a coward||

[left willow]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNY11QdQ/
Silly elden ring meme about mid-combat healing

[steel scroll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEEjO376FqE

[golden pond]

get fucked

first try too

lmao

||who knew that chucking a few dark moons at a boss and throwing fully charged zanor frost storms can absolutley chunk it||

||each frost storm did at least 2.5k damage lmao||

[old brook]

||Dragons are weak to ice, pokemon told me||

[golden pond]

||he is apparently lmao, just checked||

[old brook]

Last night a ||Great Red Bear|| dove perfectly through almost all of an Ancient Lightning Strike and took like 13k, was wild

[golden pond]

||idk what incant to pick :c||

[old brook]

I can say the ||Lighting Arm.. Thing|| feels.. okay? Its good but like two slots for what feels like Dragonmaw

||can't seem to get another heart either, so...||

Thought I could duplicate like a remembrance but alas

[golden pond]

||oh sick, new ice breath too||

[wild sierra]

royalty 🤝 pantheons
whatever the hell this is

[old brook]

Welp. Walked into a missing elevator for the first time. ||Shadow Keep|| just has so damn many

Also feel like a damn mouse in here, the scale, gahd

[dusty kraken]

Found ||Twink the Impaler. Havn't beaten him yet but I've gotten him down to 20% each time so I think I'll have him soon.||

Yep, down ||He|| goes!

[golden pond]

||dryleaf dane really here to fight and get beaten down||

[old brook]

I keep hearing ||Freyja|| but not seeing her, this place is so confusing to navigate

[golden pond]

this is fucking silly no matter how often it happens lmao (grace spoilers i guess)

[junior spade]

I genuinely recommend taking notes in the legacy dungeons cuz they do get a lil complex

[golden pond]

mf said notes

[left willow]

If I've got a "cleared" run of a legacy dungeon but am still getting lost, that's when I break out the rainbow stones

[junior spade]

I keep notes in Elden Ring haha

So yes, i said notes

[left willow]

My main difficulty with navigation in the dungeons is just being at a -2 with Disadvantage on my perception checks in this dang game

I took me nearly 3 hours of kicking around Belurat to finally find the boss door (I def did not get distracted mashing my face into the [minor dungeon boss] ||tree spirit|| in the bad place in Belurat)

[junior spade]

Respectable

[left willow]

But I also missed the doorway like 3 times 🙃

I just get distracted easily

It's why I like having other people in the call when I explore

[golden pond]

i should make my way to another boss

still riding the mountain boss high

[junior spade]

Lots of good bosses

[golden pond]

ye ye

also got a bunch of stuff to grab in base game

like the other 4 memory stones

and to grab godfrey icon because axe talisman doesn't buff darkmoon greatsword

[frail sky]

Castle Ensis boss: ||congrats to Pontiff Sulyvhan on her transition||

[tropic stream]

looool

[vivid spire]

She’s so pretty ahhhh

[golden pond]

||i love how flowy and queer her sword move set is, and god the pose is everything when you're in that stance||

[wild sierra]

I was avoiding fighting him out of intimidation and then found his boss room completely by accident while exploring somewhere I thought was off the critical path and only later realised I had simply explored backwards after avoiding entering it via the front door

then it only ended up taking me about 3 tries 😅

[junior spade]

Spoilers, midgame, mountain || https://x.com/Bri4nF/status/1805475033998852302 ||

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[golden pond]

||BAAAAAAAAAAAAYLE||

[frail sky]

||Also damn is this boss tough, I love it||

[golden pond]

||I find it ironic that you can just easily beat her down with her sister's and niece's moons lmao||

[vivid spire]

gay swords

[golden pond]

truly

[vivid spire]

The only issue is uh

[frail sky]

…and I just died to the game freezing for a second, fun

[vivid spire]

She’s a Messmer simp

But

I can fix her

I will say faith int seems very fun with the swords

[golden pond]

i'm at 70 int and 30 faith

They were aight

[vivid spire]

Yeah faith int really seems like it’s been made better

It’ll never be super high damage

[golden pond]

only issue i have with them is the same issue i have with darkmoon greatsword

beam attack will just hit nothing if the enemy is shorter than you or up a slight incline

targetting with it is weird, comes out wonky

But god, when it hits

it hits

not a big poise damage tho

[frail sky]

God this boss is so much fun

[tropic stream]

gear spoilers; Rogier's hat honestly fits

[golden pond]

||yeah, considering cheating the flag back to 0 so i can refight her||

[tranquil copper]

||I wish you luck finding it - also as a heads up some of the flags in the dlc are fucky from what Archives are saying; so might not work on some bosses||

[mellow silo]

Or just Embrace the Let Me Solo Her in you

Jolly Cooperation is the answer to refights

[golden pond]

Found a table that I think has it

[golden pond]

This too

[tranquil copper]

always double check what it contains

[golden pond]

oh

i found a skip i think

or it's intended and weird

[tranquil copper]

what skip?

I might know the one

[frail sky]

||SHE USES TWO MOONS!?||

[tropic stream]

PFFFFFFFFFFFF

WELCOME TO HELL!!!

[frail sky]

I mean the name should have given it away but holy shit that’s so cool

[golden pond]

no nvm lmao

[golden pond]

||i'm just an idiot and in specimen storage i went down using the hanging bodies,forgot i have to go up, but i found a way to do it without taking fall damage lmao||

||I adore the cute poses after attack on Rellana's swords||

[mellow silo]

Probably gonna summon for Rellana a bit

[umbral portal]

||3, actually||

[old brook]

Of all the characters in the game, I have to figure people mixed their names up in canon nigh-constantly

[mellow silo]

Welp. I met the final boss

Fear

[steel scroll]

the most final a boss there ever was

[umbral portal]

IT's a final boss alright

Hope you enjoy death

[tropic stream]

I think I found the funny haha ||Frenzy|| area

[mellow silo]

Phase One seems... Decent? But I know from you guys that he's gonna pull out the most bullshit phase two of all time

[tranquil copper]

:)

I hope you have a shield

[golden pond]

(ruins of rauh boss? i think? idfk)
||TOtally not menacing or anything||

[tranquil copper]

no he's ||just a random side miniboss - not even a special healthbar. He's decently tough but stunlockable quite reasonably. Have to reach him through a portal on scadu altus p sure||

||the falls too big otherwise without glitches||

[umbral portal]

The above is correct

[golden pond]

dam

[tranquil copper]

idr where exactly but ||there's 1 imbued stone sword key in the entire dlc specifically for that portal. From Relanna's room as you exit go immediately to your left and there's a ghost giant, the teleporter is on that lil hill behind him; don't have to fight him but he doesn't respawn||

[stone cove]

He does drop a unique armour set though!

[mellow silo]

I have quite literally never used a shield in this game lol

I sense suffering ahead

[tranquil copper]

I dont think he did that for me 😔

[tranquil copper]

its technically not required but there's like

||4 diff strings and 1 key move that you REALLY want it for because the timing is abysmal for them and the damage is immense||

[stone cove]

You have to farm him, it's very annoying

[mellow silo]

Well first I need to get more Scathutree Fragments

[tranquil copper]

ahk, there's def an easier farm for it then bc there's another one elsewhere

[mellow silo]

I assume the Wickermen Giants drop them, which is supremely annoying

[tranquil copper]

min +17, +20 has been improved by the recent patch tho so might wanna go for that

[tranquil copper]

no those do physick tears

[mellow silo]

I'm at 14 lmao

Oh thank god

[tranquil copper]

its worth doing them anyway for said tears bc ||the deflection tear is beyond fucked||

its ||5 minutes of being able to block any attack with 100 in all negations and significantly reduced stamina damage if you time it right ala sekiro deflects. Things invaluable if you don't have a good shield setup and means you can technically drop the shield if you get the timings down||

not spoilered bc this is base game but
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945358261194981396/1255478753266634865/mpc-hc64_2024-06-26_12-04-06.mp4?ex=667d4734&is=667bf5b4&hm=7db0946079147dde2ad0948956c89dbe651266701c235343ffe128bbce3c9ed3&

as you can see its not prefect for spam but like

[limpid peak]

You get scadutree fragments from crosses of miquella, statues of marika, hippos (3), and random fucking sparkling shadow dudes with a pot on their head

[tranquil copper]

the ones with fragments flee

rather than trying to throw the pot at you

also there's some that dont fit in any of those

e.g. there's some in random messmer force camps, the 5 behind ||gaius|| etc.

[limpid peak]

oh yeah, there's at least one in a coffin too

[mellow silo]

Time to go hippo hunting

[tranquil copper]

they're ||way easier than the boss hippo you've killed at this point. Don't get the quills at all||

[mellow silo]

o7

Yeah that was ridiculously easy

Fire Knight Greatsword fucks as usual

[atomic jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6VBBr15jJ0

[mellow silo]

Need to find a way to duplicate my save or something. I really want to try a Sleep build, I think that's be fun as a gimmick

[paper badge]

THERE'S NO ONE IN HERE!!!

[golden pond]

||romina dead 2nd try||

[mellow silo]

Noice

Something I really like from this DLC, they buffed the elements a bunch

We got a second stage of all the pots and grease and such

[frail sky]

Belurat: ||I think I've seen this exact room in bloodborne, except there it was spiders||

||Also this man definitely deals and perhaps even wheels||

[mellow silo]

Trina Sword acquired, the sleep build is coming together

Does anyone here have a spare Trina Sword?

[golden pond]

nothing like a grace with a summoning pool next to it

nothing like a big empty room right in front of it

[mellow silo]

Oh?

Where are you?

[golden pond]

Mr Vlad

Long edition

[mellow silo]

Nice

[golden pond]

not bad for 1st try

definitely time to chuck celestial bodies

[mellow silo]

Feel free to call on me if needed (if you're on PC)

[golden pond]

oh don't worry

his ass getting put on a stick

me and my mimic got this

[vestal night]

oh btw, where is the prayer room in Belurat?
I found that key, but not the room its for

[golden pond]

I really wish he wouldn't just fucking focus on the person doing the least damage for no reason

like piss off maan

[frail sky]

||MAN FLIES!?!||

[tranquil copper]

||2nd grace you find in the castle - the one with the like square outcrop and a drop behind it, the front of which leads towards a bridge with 2 casters and some stairs, go to the caster bridge and continue ahead, doors on the left||

[mellow silo]

St Trina, late game ||when exactly does the St Trina Blossom drop? Do I have to beat the final boss?||

[tranquil copper]

||if you mean the flower headpiece then yes. Beat final boss and it drops||

[limpid peak]

yes

[mellow silo]

Dang it

[limpid peak]

if you want to make a build with half the cool shit in the DLC, it's probably gonna be NG+

[golden pond]

||oop, messer dead||

||so much of the DLC is free when you bring a mimic and you're both slamming away with moons and moonlight greatswords||

[vestal night]

||that's the storeroom, no? I'm pretty sure I only got the prayer key after going in there||

[paper badge]

not to even mention the perfumes

[tranquil copper]

i might be wrong then my b

[frail sky]

…I may have completely forgotten that faith gets spells that increase elemental resistances. Oops.

[frozen olive]

||When you use summons like Miyazaki intended, the DLC becomes eminently manageable||

[tropic stream]

world spoilers ||Well that's not fucking ominous||

[tropic stream]

Or make a copy of your save, which is what I did XD

Cool, coolcoolcoolcool

[frozen olive]

Lmao

[paper badge]

Haha yeah

[tropic stream]

Fuck me

[mellow silo]

Have fun

[tropic stream]

Me no like it here

[golden pond]

yay, more grace, summoning pool, big empty room lmao

I wonder what's that way!

[junior spade]

that or have a friend that trades stuff

[frail sky]

Or cheat engine

[mellow silo]

||BAYYYLE!!!||

[frozen olive]

||CURSE YOU BAYLE!||

[tropic stream]

Miyazaki

F*ck you

XD

This place, honestly

Is very pretty

horrifically pretty

but pretty

[golden pond]

||Divine Gate Front Staircase. Fear?||

[steel scroll]

nothing bad could possibly happen.

[golden pond]

nothing at all

[mellow silo]

Flamedrake+3 acquired
Boltdrake+3 acquired
Dragoncrest Greatshield acquired
Time to kill this dude

[golden pond]

oh, this is gonna be bullshit bullshit, aight

off i go somewhere else

[mellow silo]

Which boss?

[golden pond]

finall i think lul

||gravity time and stuff||

[tropic stream]

Oh wow

Fighting here is awful

[mellow silo]

Perhaps consider... Not fighting

Stealth

[tropic stream]

But I ||Saw a me-sized enemy|| XD

[mellow silo]

Unless you've already made into house?

[tropic stream]

I did kill them

And got a fun thing

[mellow silo]

Oh the ||madder?||

[tropic stream]

I probably wasn't in danger of whatever ||'it'|| is

But the risk was uh

stressful

!

XD

[mellow silo]

Oh my poor sweet child

[tropic stream]

Aye

[vivid spire]

Is the horror worth it

[tropic stream]

I mean

[mellow silo]

Youve got much worse ahead lol

[tropic stream]

New gear so far

Also the full reveal of it (area spoiler) ||Being a Frenzied Flame forest being the rams having the Frenzy eyes is just... chef kiss||

Cuz it continues the thematic idea of ||The altus rams and some in the land of Shadow being lightning rams based on area||

[golden pond]

oh hey, pearldrake +3

[tropic stream]

I bet I do

[vivid spire]

Oh it’s that

That’s where I am

[frail sky]

Castle Ensus: ||Rellana: dead. Barrier of gold makes her moons do basically no damage it’s insane. You even have enough time to cast it when she starts the animation||

[golden pond]

||Jump Button: ||

[atomic plinth]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

[vivid spire]

Welcome

[golden pond]

it's what made me cry!

[atomic plinth]

Kinda looks like a tailless whip scorpion, but with a tail

Pretty neat looking ngl

[frozen olive]

||Spider Scorpion||

[tropic stream]

item/possibly enemy spoilers

Eat my ass fromsoft

[old brook]

Why can I not get ||Ansbach|| to do anything with ||Freyja|| they're both right here wbalrkhgblh

[tropic stream]

You need ||to find something called the secret rite scroll||

And give it to the old man and exhaust his dialogue like twice

[frail sky]

||These swords don’t have very good scaling do they||

[old brook]

See other people told me not to give him that 'cause he

[real shadow]

There's an item you find in that area which has a description ||explaining why Torrent was afraid. And rightly so.||

[old brook]

would leave

[frail sky]

Ensis boss weapon ||how good are the twin swords? They seem cool as hell but the scaling seems… not great||

[golden pond]

||Absolutely fucking terrible, and god forbid you run into an enemy with actual poise||

||When the say Light Greatsword, they actually mean Straight Sword for those||

||But other than that, it's cool and gay||

||And they're not super bad, but it's not sword of night and flame||

[kind garden]

Kinda hard to squeeze damage out of that weapon

Not impossible

[frozen olive]

||you can get really good damage with the int part of the ash, i teamed up with someone while fighting a boss that was doing really good damage with it||

[steel scroll]

||what item is that?||

[frail sky]

[golden pond]

||Yeah but at what point is the int part good damage compared to other weapons with that kind of thing||

[steep wing]

she had to leave church first to be her true self

[golden pond]

If you like the weapon, use it and go for it

god knows i did

[real shadow]

||Surging Frenzied Flame.||

[frozen olive]

||i was using Fire Knights greatsword and using flame art flame skewer and i did like, half the damage they did per use of my skill||

[kind garden]

Oh, yeah

truth

[golden pond]

||The main issue i have with them is low poise damage and flame art locking you in hard||

[kind garden]

||It's a threat even to Torrent||

[frozen olive]

||that's entirely fair, but then again, poise damage is in general a problem in the DLC i've found||

||i think the fire parts is actually really good against normal enemies and if you have a good build evidently it's really good with the int part for boss damage||

[frail sky]

||Geez even with 50 faith the fire scaling is only like 64 additional damage||

[golden pond]

Do the art

||If there's an enemy weak to fire, yo ucan L1 to only use fire part||

[frozen olive]

||just saying, it's definitely not a bad weapon, so if you want to use it and you build properly, it will do some shit||

[steel scroll]

oh of course

[mellow silo]

Another FKGS user!

[golden pond]

||It's a cool weapon and it can do good. But don't expect Darkmoon Greatsword kinda bs where you apply cold, do 2k damage per beam and have good FP efficiency alongside actual poise damage||

[mellow silo]

Legitimately I have been rocking that weapon for half the DLC and loving it

[frozen olive]

it's really fucking cool

[mellow silo]

Absolutely S-tier sword, immaculate drip

[frozen olive]

here's my fit with it, absolutely dripped out

alternatively i also have a different shield maxed out which fits better and is only marginally worse

[mellow silo]

I've slapped Sacred infusion with Crucible Wings on mine, goes hard

[mellow silo]

Absolute fire 🔥

[frozen olive]

i'm using ||flame art infusion Flame Skewer||

i'm kinda a str fai build so it goes extremely hard

[mellow silo]

I'm a Faith Dex actually, since Sacred makes it scale mostly with faith, and equally between Dex and Strength

[frozen olive]

makes sense

i really want to use ||Rellana's twin swords|| for my orignal character but she's already using the Dark Moon Greatsword and Rennala's Carian Regal Scepter

[frail sky]

||Wait I can power stance it with milady and only use the faith sword 👀||

[frozen olive]

yes

yes you can

[golden pond]

||you can also just use it on it's own and L1 for faith sword ||

[kind garden]

yeah you can do the funny with paired weapons

[mellow silo]

Power stance two Twin Swords

Four Swords

[frozen olive]

(final boss spoilers)||time to powerstance Greatsword of Radahn(Light) and Greatsword of Radahn(Lord) for 4x greatsword action||

the gods most powerful build

[kind garden]

why do you think he's so strong

[golden pond]

he listened to Calus nad grew fat from strength

idk

[frail sky]

Actually question: is there a dex/faith seal in the dlc?

[steel scroll]

mis read ignoreme

[frozen olive]

let me check for you

[tropic stream]

You'd think the dryleaf seal would be

But no xD

[frozen olive]

the answer is no

there is not

we do now have a (weapon spoiler)||weapon that casts sorceries and incantations|| which is kinda neat

[frail sky]

||Wait as in one weapon that does both?||

[frozen olive]

||yes, yes it can cast both||

[kind garden]

||there's a weapon that's a sorcery catalyst, and there's a hybrid catalyst, but I know not of a weapon that casts sorceries and incantations||

[frail sky]

||Also I just realized Rellanna is wearing boob armor, honestly I don’t even mind||

[frozen olive]

(weapon spoilers)||catalysts and staffs are still weapons, in this case it's a staff that can cast both sorceries and incantations||

[junior spade]

she's classy with it

[kind garden]

oh

because there's like

an actual sword that casts on R2

[frozen olive]

word?

[kind garden]

yeah

[frozen olive]

what's it called

[kind garden]

it's bad though

[frozen olive]

aww dang it

[kind garden]

likely bugged

[frozen olive]

i need to try this out on my main character and see how it does

[kind garden]

It's called the Carian Sorcery Sword

[frozen olive]

she has like, 50 faith and 70 int or something like that

[frail sky]

||Int faith build is a go||

[frozen olive]

truly

[kind garden]

finally my cast-o-tron build has rights

[frozen olive]

i'm gonna need to check it out for my main character like i said

cause she is very much int-fai

[kind garden]

swapping between the Prince of Death staff and the Fundamentalist seal made me sad

[frozen olive]

need to play though the whole dlc with her which is sadge but i will do it eventually

[kind garden]

so having the biggest brainest catalyst is very exciting

[frozen olive]

it looks cool too which is good

[kind garden]

sure does

[frozen olive]

(weapon spoilers)

[frail sky]

(Ensis boss) ||…also I’m going to Renalla to respec dressed as her sister, that must be awkward||

[frozen olive]

|| i actually dressed with bits of both of their armor||

kind of poetic

using ||Rellana's armor and Rennala's gloves, with a blue hood for extra drip||

my most inspired fit

i am so fucking goated when it comes to ||carian sorcerer fits||

[frail sky]

Oh god I forgot how bad the prince of death staff scales, 258 sorcery scaling at 44/44
Meanwhile the golden order seal is 323 scaling
(Note: the seal is at +9 and the staff is at +24)

[kind garden]

it sucks so bad

[frozen olive]

this is still my base game magnum opus

[golden pond]

||Even more awkward when you start new game and beat them with their family moons||

[frozen olive]

||i desperately want to go grab the moons rn but idk if i want to fight Rellana with 1 scadutree and 0 spirit ash blessing||

||and i just cannot be fucked to actually go explore to grab them after just mainlining the dlc and exploring everything under the light of the Scadutree for like 4 days||

[golden pond]

I did it at 3

Lol

||Use ranni's moon and mimic||

[frozen olive]

||my build is specifically specced for using that spell since i have the hat that boosts cold sorcery and Rennala's scepter which boosts moon sorcery||

[golden pond]

||yup yup yup, same||

[frozen olive]

||i also have fucking 70 int so it's going to hit like a truck||

[golden pond]

||Unironically, you can kill all the bosses before final using nothing but just chucking moons whenever you can||

[frozen olive]

||i used lightning spears to just kill everything on my DLC character||

[golden pond]

||and if you use mimic, it'll usually just melee so you got a tank, if boss is on you or far it'll pop a moon||

[frozen olive]

||i can't wait to get Rellana's twin moons for my main character||

[golden pond]

||It's hard to get off but god it hits hard||

||and I love you do 3 hits and not just moons||

||it does about 3.5/4 moons of damage total||

[frozen olive]

(quest spoilers)||i'll need to go to Manus Metyr and have a chat with everyones favourite mother of fingies||

||get that cast speed booster||

[golden pond]

I should look up where that is

[frozen olive]

it's pretty easy to get

[golden pond]

But I'm lazyyyyyy

I'm still only like 8 blessing I think

[frozen olive]

you really do not need more than that to get it

it's incredibly easy

honestly, you could actually just go get ||the cast speed boosting talisman right off the bat with zero blessing at all if you know what you are doing||

[frail sky]

Okay the prince of death staff is so bad I’m going to just be using the seal

[golden pond]

oh i meant more i'm lazy so i didn't explore for blessings

[frozen olive]

ah

[golden pond]

buuuut

||free 60 dex is free 60 dex ||

[vivid spire]

Yall

Had a question about the boar rider

What’s he weak to?

[mellow silo]

Same here lol. Just got to him, and man is a shitter

[vivid spire]

Maybe black flame

[mellow silo]

Camera is my worst enemy

[vivid spire]

Wait no

[frozen olive]

|| ihave not found him to have any weaknesses, i stimply killed him with repeated attempts||

[vivid spire]

He’s part of ||Messmer|| forces

Fire won’t work

[golden pond]

chuck a moon at him

that should work

[frozen olive]

throwing moons works against everything, it's true

[golden pond]

so far nothing has been strong against moons

[mellow silo]

Fuck that charge man, how do you even avoid it?

[frozen olive]

lol, lmao

you don't

[golden pond]

Parry it

coward

[frozen olive]

||i'm pretty sure it's literally bugged because you almost can't roll dodge it||

[golden pond]

https://tenor.com/view/paper-mario-super-mario-galaxy-final-fantasy-sephiroth-sephiroth-smash-bros-gif-19602297

[junior spade]

||jump attacks||

[frozen olive]

||very rarely i was able to roll through it but generally speaking you simply don't have enough i-frames, it might need to be frame perfect||

[royal raptor]

patch notes

[mellow silo]

I call upon the powers of this channel, help me obliterate this man

[frozen olive]

||interesting||

[frozen olive]

i could help i think

i'm not doing anything rn

[mellow silo]

Hell yeah

Code LANCER

[frozen olive]

let me boot the game

[vivid spire]

Oh

[vivid spire]

Incantation user

[golden pond]

incantate some moons

idfk

[junior spade]

But, again, i also just went through a lot of the dlc as a heaviest-armor-possible kind of character, so my experiences differ

[frozen olive]

in the Lands between and the land of shadows, i alone am the magic one

[golden pond]

oy

i'm right here bestie

[frozen olive]

i did the opposite of your buld and instead went with [DIVINE SMITE] as my spell of choice

[golden pond]

don't you have an int char

[mellow silo]

Never

[frozen olive]

i have not played through the DLC on my int character yet

also

she had 50 faith

[mellow silo]

Int is for coward wizards

[frozen olive]

so she can cast everything

[golden pond]

coward wizards live to tell the tales

[frozen olive]

except ||FUCKING BAYLE INCANTS||

||CURSE YOU BAYLE!||

[golden pond]

||RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH||

[frozen olive]

||Dragon Ahab was so goated for that tbh||

LANCER full caps for password?

[steel scroll]

in retrospect; was ||dancing lion|| entirely optional?

[golden pond]

||probably lmao||

[frozen olive]

||there are only 3 non-optional bosses in the dlc||

[junior spade]

Define optional

[golden pond]

||you can kill final without killing this one||

[steel scroll]

you dont need to kill them to clear the story

[junior spade]

then yeah

[frozen olive]

||there are only 3 bosses in the dlc you absolutely have to kill but you absolutely should kill all of them because some of them give you very important things||

[golden pond]

||isn't it just Rellana, Messer and then final? lmao||

[twilit path]

Yeah I think... You can just do ||messmer and then the final?||

[mellow silo]

It's pretty much just (boss spoilers) ||Messmer, Romina, and Radahn||

[frozen olive]

||Rellana is optional||

[steel scroll]

baffling decision. like ||lion is optional over romina??||

[twilit path]

You can go around ||rellana||!

[frozen olive]

||the only non optional bosses are Romina, Messmer and the final boss||

[twilit path]

(also I am back even tho I beat the game because I am bored at work)

[golden pond]

||only thing going around rellana is my hand as we walk off into the sunsets as 2 lesbians on a moon||

[frozen olive]

also my summon sign is down in front of ||Gaius door||

whoever wanted to summon me

[mellow silo]

Oh, I can't anymore lmao

[junior spade]

we dont kick you out of the thread for beating the game lmao no worries

[twilit path]

You know what that's entirely fair. And in character for weird hand shenanigans this game has.

[frozen olive]

i am here to perform Jolly Co-operation

[mellow silo]

I'm so sorry

[frozen olive]

did you win?

[vivid spire]

Oh

[mellow silo]

I lost. But now I must go do something else

[frozen olive]

ah

fair enough!

[golden pond]

Rethink your strategy! (do literally anything else for 5min)

[frozen olive]

||Knights lightning spear is so based and powerful||

[frozen olive]

||you need to beat another boss as well||

[twilit path]

Oh thank goodness I thought the Elden Ring DLC police were gonna get me. Acab

[frozen olive]

||there are 3 non-optional bosses in the DLC||

[steel scroll]

fromsoft yet to create counter to the strongest build: not being tilted

[frozen olive]

you should fight every boss though

they are all sick as hell

if anyone else wants a summon i can do so rn, otherwise imma go fight ||Rellana||

[vivid spire]

Tiche sucks

[golden pond]

||GF is running a holy build so she hits like nothingo n most bosses but hten goes and nukes Fissure knight and other undead shit||

[frozen olive]

Tiche is not great for this yeah

[vivid spire]

What do I do

Blackflame works when it hits

[golden pond]

what boss is this

[frozen olive]

honestly, i have no idea

[vivid spire]

Physical kinda works

[frozen olive]

i just won

[vivid spire]

||Gaius||

[vivid spire]

…

[junior spade]

Respectfully I think entirely changing your playstyle every boss might be a detriment to you

[frozen olive]

spoiler names please

[vivid spire]

Oh

It’s what’s im used to

[frozen olive]

no BM intended i mean i literally just fought the boss over and over and over until i eventually won

[junior spade]

hey if its working, go for it

[golden pond]

it's a good strat

winning works

[frozen olive]

there were no tricks involved i simply hit my head against the brick wall until it cracked

[golden pond]

the head or the brick?

both?

[frozen olive]

both

[golden pond]

[junior spade]

oh freyja i had a thing i wanted you to see lmao

[frozen olive]

yeah?

[junior spade]

spoilers, mountain, midgame/late ||https://vxtwitter.com/Bri4nF/status/1805475033998852302||

[frozen olive]

lmao

that's my GOAT

🔥

[golden pond]

ngl

when i read the lines here, zero excitement, sounded cheesy

[lucid furnace]

I love ||Igon||\

[golden pond]

then i heard the guy scream on the floor and like, yeah, i get it. fuck it, let's be build to hate 1 specific type of guy

Profession: Hater

[frozen olive]

i love ||Igons voice acting||

|

[golden pond]

|

[frozen olive]

it's incredibly well done

and conveys the emotions of the scene fucking immaculately

[lucid furnace]

||Igon and K-Dot have the same hater energy. Bayle hates the way that he walks and the way that he talks||

[frozen olive]

very well done indeed, you'll get it soon!

[vivid spire]

Wait

He’s literally a cop lmao

Acab

[frozen olive]

i think this place may be haunted

[vivid spire]

Oh damn

[frozen olive]

he's not really, he's a soldier

[golden pond]

same thing

[frozen olive]

egghhhh

the thing is (boss spoilers, do not click until the boss is defeated)||Gaius is also a part of an opressed minority and works for a guy who was literally abandoned by his mom, shits kinda fucked||

||i wouldn't say Gaius is any notably worse than any other boss in the land of shadows||

[vivid spire]

there are some differences

But yeah true he’s a soldier

[frozen olive]

TIL that ||flame skewer has a follow up attack, which is really sick||

[frozen olive]

🔥

[twilit path]

Yeah it sells things incredibly well. Highlight fight for sure.

[frozen olive]

||https://vxtwitter.com/CrazyM0nk/status/1805683895784161616||

[vivid spire]

I never got close after that

[paper badge]

has anyone managed to find enough revered spirit ash to reach +10?

[vivid spire]

He charges the soldiers and instantly kills then all

[frozen olive]

yes

[vivid spire]

And the lighting wasn’t as effective

[twilit path]

There are so many that fit him

[frozen olive]

truly

[paper badge]

got a list?

because I'm like 2 short

of going from 9 to 10

[frozen olive]

just googled a guide and went through all of it

did the same for scadutree fragments

[frail sky]

Belurat boss ||It can change elements!?!?||

[frozen olive]

||yes, yes it can! It's a divine puppet, very strong||

[frail sky]

||SO COOL||

[paper badge]

what guide did you use?

[frail sky]

||Also I’m assuming you dodge its ash clouds by jumping?||

[paper badge]

polygon and eurogamer haven't shown me any I don't think I've already gotten

[frozen olive]

youtube video

[vivid spire]

Fuck

[frozen olive]

i watched one where they go to every location

then i went to every location

[vivid spire]

He mauls every spirit ash

[frozen olive]

simple as

[vivid spire]

And his aggro is always on me

Can I use torrent

[frozen olive]

i wouldn't recommend it

[mellow silo]

Does this mean ||Bayle is actually the Griffith|| of this game?

[frozen olive]

spoiler names please

[mellow silo]

o7 o7

[vivid spire]

I

Uuugh

Fuck this guy

[frozen olive]

that's how i feel too

i did not enjoy that boss

[twilit path]

I dunno, it feels like || guts fighting guts inner demon||

[vivid spire]

Also when will the coop calm down

[frozen olive]

hopefully soon

[vivid spire]

I can’t summon anyone except for one or two times

[frozen olive]

i had the same problem

[mellow silo]

Hopefully never lol

I'm enjoying the instant summons

[twilit path]

||miquella is definitely Griffith coded tho|| (name/parallel spoilers)

[mellow silo]

||and is Leda like early Farnese?||

||thinking again, no not really actually||

[frozen olive]

ok i'm going to go fold ||Rellana|| with my original character

[umbral portal]

||Radahn is Guts coded||

[mellow silo]

||They're both religious loons yes, but Farnese is more a sadomasochist, while Leda is just ridiculously paranoid||

[frozen olive]

going to be fighting ||Rellana|| with 1 scadutree and no ash upgrades

[golden pond]

I did it with 2, you got this

[twilit path]

Yeah Leda ||doesn't map well to any berserk character I don't think.||

[mellow silo]

Question ||how do I get Danes Robes and stuff?||

[golden pond]

||do main bosses ||

[mellow silo]

Which main bosses lol

[golden pond]

||Messer, Bug lady||

||it's in hte divine beast castle but oyu get that after bug lady and messer||

[mellow silo]

I've already done ||Romina and stuff, and already killed Dane in the Leda fight||

||is it too late?||

[golden pond]

||should be able to just grab the stuff in that arena||

||the bodies are on one of hte ends||

[mellow silo]

||all I got was the Footwork, no armor||

[golden pond]

oh wait nvm shit

||shadowkeep teleport coffin to ruins of unte||

||follow cliffs downstream and be careful, it'll be down there somewhere||

[mellow silo]

Oh, what do I have to do there?

[golden pond]

||for dane's set, yuh||

[mellow silo]

Ye

[golden pond]

i also need to do it cause there's a funny thing there

||sheathed sword altar OWO||

[vivid spire]

Every other boss

Blinkbolt gives I frames

every. Other. Boss. Except. ||Gaius||

Arrgh.

[past shard]

||I suspect that boss has hitbox jank, will hopefully get patched||

[paper badge]

@frozen olive okay yay I got the last few ashes!

[frail sky]

It’s dead now, burn o flame is absurd as it turns out

[mellow silo]

Oh boy, games about to get interesting for ya

[kind garden]

female version of Serpico

[tropic stream]

So is Tiche just sorta mid now?

[vivid spire]

What the hell is even behind it besides the fragments

[mellow silo]

||the other finger ruin||

[vivid spire]

Is it even useful

Oh

[kind garden]

Tiche just can't

[past shard]

Tiche seems to do ok damage, but can get torn up fast.

[tropic stream]

Gonna level up funny golem boi

[mellow silo]

Tiche is too much glass to survive, even if it's cannon is exceptional

[frail sky]

||oh god do I have to burn the erdtree again?||

…wait I should probably go kill radabeast

[vivid spire]

God

This doesn’t seem worth it

Just five fragments

I keep getting so close

It’s like getting a 79.9 on a test over and over

[frail sky]

||Talked to storeroom lady, oh god I feel bad now||

[golden pond]

||haha, flame go brrrrr||

[vivid spire]

Who?

[kind garden]

the NPC in the Belurat storeroom

[twilit path]

Yeah, actually that could work. I, uh, didn't pay very close attention to the dlc lore tho 😅

[kind garden]

Leda is an oathseeker knight, i.e. someone who is insanely dedicated to finding a cause and going full send for it

[frozen olive]

time to fight ||Rellana||

[kind garden]

and in particular she's paranoid as hell and always looking to find weak links to gut

[twilit path]

But is there (berserk? Spoilers?) ||weird horny sibling vibes with another lady?||

[vivid spire]

GOD

THIS FUCKING PIG

Whatever lore shit is behind here better be worth the trouble

Why is he bugged

[kind garden]

I don’t know that he’s bugged tbh

[vivid spire]

My iframes won’t work and my lightning occasionally phases through

[mellow silo]

He's broken in some way

[kind garden]

Although I did notice some moves had odd hit detection

I found pretty deterministic strats for everything he does

[vivid spire]

He also immediately switched from a charge to a janky sideways bash

[frozen olive]

ok so

[twilit path]

Average boss fight camera, completely wonked lmao

[vivid spire]

Like animation canceling

[frozen olive]

||Rellana's moon one-shot me||

[mellow silo]

His charge move is basically impossible to avoid

[frozen olive]

||i need to bring a fire incantation to reset frost on her||

[kind garden]

Jump!!!

[frozen olive]

i would never

[mellow silo]

Roll then

[frozen olive]

how could you ask this of me

[frozen olive]

i shall!

almost won first try

[kind garden]

Rellana made one of my friends go absolutely nuts, he’s been Big Mad at the DLC boss design ever since

[past shard]

I've seen it deal unusually varying levels of damage depending on how much it catches you, most of your HP head-on, still chunky if you get clipped.

[old brook]

These ||Hippos|| sure don't like Ancient Dragon Lightning Strike, they ought to try being less enormous

[kind garden]

Ride Torrent backwards

That’s all you have to do

[twilit path]

After how fucking clean the fights are in NineSols and Sekiro... Honestly I get being mad at elden ring bosses.

[kind garden]

I don’t get it but I’m ACpilled

[twilit path]

Yeah it's much more along the lines of AC

[kind garden]

I don’t want clean, deterministic bosses that you learn and then beat perfectly

[frozen olive]

same

[kind garden]

At least not from this game

[twilit path]

I think maybe making it easier to adjust your build could help with some of the criticisms I'm seeing but I dunno. I enjoyed the heck outta the dlc.

[frozen olive]

ok she's handing me my ass but i don't have the king Dung Eater to aggro her

[junior spade]

oh this is once again a 10/10 fromsoft dlc for me

[mellow silo]

Infinite Larval Tears would just be a godsend

[junior spade]

i will be replaying this often

[mellow silo]

But nay

[vivid spire]

sigh

Build switching time

His charge is janky

[kind garden]

Infinite larval tears should be the case

[frozen olive]

infinite respec is something i will always ask for

[kind garden]

Dumb that it isn’t

[vivid spire]

I dodged fully away from it

But it still clipped me

[frozen olive]

yeah the charge is

broken

[mellow silo]

I just want to do the funni St Trina build

[twilit path]

You can jump over a lot of his stuff on horseback, which is what I did for a lot of it

[kind garden]

If you sprint backwards away from it with Torrent it whiffs

That’s how you beat the charge

[old brook]

Yeah he seems catered to TorrentFighting

[vivid spire]

Oh

[kind garden]

If you get unhorsed he rinses you

[old brook]

Or like mixed

[vivid spire]

Boo

[junior spade]

i just used fat shield and healing

[frozen olive]

ok yeah i really should grab more scadu for this

but i won't lets go

[kind garden]

Also like

[twilit path]

Yeah. When I was tired of dying I just went BigShield as well

[old brook]

I'm just glad they give you a nice set of side-paths for 'em

[twilit path]

Can't break a mountain

[kind garden]

A lot of people seem to just not be exploring their build options to fight the DLC bosses?

And then getting mad when doing their onetrick build doesn’t auto-win

[vivid spire]

He killed torrent in one hit

[golden pond]

||Moons worked so far for every boss 😭 ||

[twilit path]

I think there's an argument to be had for each build trying to be viable. It makes it less viable as a, I guess, roleplaying game? And more of an action game

Which, again, is fine, just not what I think people expect

[kind garden]

Well it’s like

Your build is a collection of stats

[past shard]

Yea, can get a lot from just swapping around weapon/element for a fight/area

[kind garden]

Try any other option available to you

[old brook]

My whole build is Options, it feels great

[golden pond]

gf is doing holy build
it's objectively bad cause of holy resists everywehre in the dlc
she makes up for it by killing anything boss-level and undead in 4 hits

[old brook]

especially with how this DLC drops Cool Shit on ya

[kind garden]

See but if you can run Holy you can run Flame Art just as easily

You aren’t locked into the one trick

[golden pond]

yeah but she doesn't lmao

[junior spade]

casters eat well for options, as do (not somber) weapon mains

[old brook]

Faith has access to.. everything? I think everything

[umbral portal]

Elden Ring more like Smellden Ring

[kind garden]

Hell, Sorcerers can refactor pretty hard too

[old brook]

Heresy is but a contrivance, all things can be conjoined

[kind garden]

So can Quality if you’re willing to USE YOUR CRAFTING OPTIONS

ahem.

[golden pond]

no

[kind garden]

And Arcane can do basically anything

[junior spade]

elden ring crafting is so clutch

[old brook]

Arcane quietly asking 'does the boss have blood?'

[kind garden]

Even if it doesn’t

ARC can just run like, any other status or an Occult beatstick or Dragon Communion beatdowns

[frail sky]

Only thing they don’t have is magic damage afaik

[old brook]

There's a dragonbreath that deals magic!

[vivid spire]

How do I buff torrent

[kind garden]

Revered Ashes

[old brook]

doesn't torrent actually take AoE buffs

i know i regen him a lot

[frail sky]

Oh right!
For some reason my brain considers those distinct from normal incantations

[old brook]

I have to assume using a regular seal for them makes it feel weird and itchy

Also, zero weight for spells? ok Arcane, i lov u

[frozen olive]

ok i think going in with melee with the mimic will be the play

[frail sky]

tbf there are a lot of 0 weight sacred seals

[vivid spire]

Wasn’t there an item that buffed torrent

[frail sky]

None in the base game at least

[vivid spire]

No I meant the dpc

[frail sky]

Oh

[old brook]

Am I missing somethin' about these Furnace Golems? I know the ||head explosion|| trick but they don't always allow thats

[vivid spire]

God my dad is just mimicking my death scream now

I want to ask him to shut up

This boss infuriates me

[frozen olive]

fuck yes

||Rellana down||

[twilit path]

||have a chille rellano to celebrate||

[vivid spire]

Yall

I’m all out of ideas

I’m gonna go fight|| Midra ||now

Lighting or Fire?

[kind garden]

not fire

definitely not fire

[mellow silo]

Use ||frenzy flame obviously||

||find out who outcrazies the other||

[golden pond]

chuck at a moon at them

[vivid spire]

I cant

Midra ripped me apart anyways

What level do i stay under for jolly coop

[mellow silo]

175 or lower

You have a 25 level buffer, so at 175, people who are at level 150 can still summon you

Although the agreed upon "normal level" might shift up by the DLC, so you may be able to reach higher

I would not be surprised at all if 175 became the community norm

[past shard]

I've heard of the DLC essentially beating the runes out of players at the same time

[golden pond]

yeah

it effectively made 60 vig required

or just big time defence

i'm running greathsield talisman and shield talisman

• defence tear

i know my ass is gonna get hit when i try to do damage so amgic + defence tear and then just try to get moons off or charged moonlight heavies

[frozen olive]

the music in this dlc is so incredible

[golden pond]

it's so good

[tropic stream]

I'm running 60 vig and running the Dragoncrest and Pearldrake Talismans

[junior spade]

60 vigor plus Crimson Amber Medallion +3 was my new bff

[tropic stream]

aaaaand that is my fourth talisman aside from flock canvas lmao

[junior spade]

i think mine was usually Crimson Amber, Great Jar, Two-Head Turtle, and the fourth was filler defensive one depending on the boss

[mellow silo]

Double Turtle is based

[golden pond]

Greatshield + Shield keeps me alive 90% of the time
then i got Jar shard for greatsword and either scorpion charm if i want more damage or radagon icon for speedy cast

[tropic stream]

I have double turtle

I am debating using it

but also muh incant scaling

[mellow silo]

My 16 END ass needed it

[frail sky]

Early area spoilers: ||this is a dragon isn't it||

[golden pond]

||:)||

[tropic stream]

Oh I prolly don't need it then lol mouse

my endurance is

checks

[junior spade]

Mine was at 60 and i still needed it

[tropic stream]

50 XD

murd I think that's a sign you need to chill

wait

Do you use a shield?

[junior spade]

yes

[tropic stream]

I don't I just dodge that might be why lmao

nvm

[junior spade]

Shield, rolls, and attacking behind shield with spear-stuff

[vivid spire]

Well

Time to get smacked by ||Gaius|| again

I made one mini

[golden pond]

my stats

[twilit path]

Are you me?!?

Altho I did milady instead of a spear

[mellow silo]

I use double turtle, two hander, variable defensive, and a crimsonspill (the one that gives extra health per flask)

[golden pond]

oh yeah, i need to go get godefrey for godfrey icon

[mellow silo]

Need to optimize more tbh

[tropic stream]

neeeeeeeeeeeeeerd

Chunky ass nerd tho

[golden pond]

yup yup yup

[tropic stream]

also why do you have so few memory slots?

[golden pond]

Do Not Speak of my Memory Stone Lack

[tropic stream]

I

[golden pond]

i forgot to get them cause i neve rneeded them

moons did althe work

[tropic stream]

just do some Rises it takes like five minutes

[golden pond]

but now i needed more so i can run all 3 moon spells

[tropic stream]

XD

also moon of nokstella

[golden pond]

don't need it

just need 1 more stone so i can run terra magica as well

2 omre if i want storm

[twilit path]

Four moons?!?

In this economy?

[golden pond]

[junior spade]

||i used milady until i got the swordspear from gaius cuz it can have 120 bleed proc which is NUTS|| weapon spoiler

[twilit path]

Yeah totally fair. That thing looked beastly.

[tropic stream]

You are

Definitely shooting for a theme

XD

Technically my Int/Fth was too

But it was "Fuck you, I have spent years studying all forms of magic."

[twilit path]

Well, you know what they say. If you shoot for the moon, even if you miss you'll end up... With more moons to shoot.

[golden pond]

I should go like

Celestial magic

and pickup elden stars and shti

[tropic stream]

A celestial theurge mage actually sounds really fun

And you have some funky new stuff to play with in the DLC

[golden pond]

there we go, sword setup

now i got a 32% buff to moonlight greatsword, gaming

[kind garden]

Been thinking about finger lore

Secret boss lore spoilers: ||Is the implication of the Metyr’s head weapon that Metyr hates the Greater Will for forcing it to bend the knee? Is that what caused the Fingers to become deranged?||

||After all, Metyr is a vassal of the Greater Will, and its children essentially slaves to the Will’s design||

[junior spade]

||the remembrance reads "The mother of all Two Fingers and Fingercreepers was in turn a magnificently gleaming daughter of the Greater Will, and the first shooting star to fall upon the Lands Between." and the staff says "Despite being broken and abandoned, she kept waiting for another message to come." so ive read it more like she just.... got left on hold on the phone, forever||

[kind garden]

||Kowtower’s Resentment could just be about Metyr still being alive and hating the Tarnished, but it also could be that it’s furious||

Now the real question is

||if another message never came then what the fuck were the Two Fingers communicating to the demigods exactly?||

||They just came up with their own plan?||

[junior spade]

||another message never came to metyr; no idea if Two Fingies was still getting texts||

[kind garden]

||Fair, I kinda assumed the Two Fingers, being defective offspring, were abandoned as well||

[junior spade]

that could still be true!

[kind garden]

||I suppose this means that the Three Fingers are a truly awful defect||

[vestal night]

||I believe there are other Two Fingers too||

[kind garden]

There are many of them yes

[frozen olive]

i need to memorize ||Igons speech to Bayle||

[golden pond]

OH