I'm missing exactly one scadutree fragment for max level 
#Elden Ring (DLC hype room)
steel scroll
limpid peak
I got impatient and fought both, it was awful
wild sierra
so far I only found one dragon which wasn't vulnerable to Ancient Dragon Lightning and that one I could rot instead
limpid peak
so far I only found one dragon which wasn't vulnerable to Ancient Dragon Lightni...
||Senessax|| or ||Bayle||?
wild sierra
the former
limpid peak
that makes sense
wild sierra
||only tickled Senessax (because he is an ancient lightning dragon) but Bayle didn't like it at all, and the bigger they are the more damage it usually does 😅||
last boss of jagged peaks area: ||Bayle is a really good fight just via combination of Igon screaming, fire and lightning everywhere, and Bayle ultimately looking like an enormous armoured chicken||
limpid peak
||Igon|| really made that fight so cinematic, love our Elden Ring Ahab
wild sierra
no way I would be able to make out this detail during the fight but someone else noticed ||he has the jaws of one of Placidusax's missing heads clamped around his neck||
nova smelt
Yeah so the claws of night trivialize Messmer entirely as it turns out
limpid peak
bleed works bery well
rich lintel
jesus the carian shield makes ||putrescent knight|| mad easy
limpid peak
got to his second phase in ten seconds flat
vivid spire
no way I would be able to make out this detail during the fight but someone else...
I still can’t beat|| Bayle||
I use rot and bleed and stuff
But I’m still struggling
nova smelt
Can ||bayle|| be bled
limpid peak
have you tried the dragon sword?
vivid spire
Out of the four Roadblocks he seemed the easier
nova smelt
You have it if you got to the dragon area
limpid peak
you should have fought Dragon Man on the way
vivid spire
Oh yeah
limpid peak
it's a Great Katana
vivid spire
It’s the great katana alright
limpid peak
it's very very good in this fight
nova smelt
Does big damage to dragons
old brook
I just found the 'first' great katana
limpid peak
I'm not sure I've got the bog standard Great Katana
I've got two, but they're both somber
nova smelt
I have the dragon great katana and rakshasa
vivid spire
Fuck it melee time
vestal night
There are three great katanas
limpid peak
also I thought you were going to bed, scrble
vivid spire
All my self inserts are broken mages I guess this one got desperate
vivid spire
also I thought you were going to bed, scrble
Yes
vestal night
The basic one, dragon hunter, and Rakshasa's
vivid spire
Things to fight later
vestal night
That third one being basically Rivers but big as far as I could see
limpid peak
It's a hyper-armour monster
really annoying to fight the guy that dropped it
but it'd make for a cool build
nova smelt
That third one being basically Rivers but big as far as I could see
Shockingly it has no arcane scaling
Pure dex weapon
wild sierra
I still can’t beat|| Bayle||
unfortunately my winning strategy was just "stand under him and use ancient dragon lightning" which is not universally applicable as a strategy
vivid spire
unfortunately my winning strategy was just "stand under him and use ancient drag...
Wait
He’s WEAK to that?
wild sierra
almost all dragons are
vivid spire
I thought all dragons were resistant
wild sierra
dragons hate each other
vivid spire
Holy shit I’ve been living a lie
limpid peak
only Ancient Dragons resist it
vestal night
Only ancient dragons are
vivid spire
dragons hate each other
I didn’t know this lmao
wild sierra
but also he's mostly weak to it because he's really fucking big
the bigger something is the more damage that spell will do
vivid spire
Oh I can do this easy
Lightning is like
MY WHOLE THING
I have a 25 gravel stone seal
I knew I could caster this game
wild sierra
other lightning spells are probably good but specifically ancient dragon lightning strike is a winning option against any enemy that's the same size as the entire screen, unless they are resistant to lightning
because they will get hit by a majority of the bolts
which are damage tuned assuming that they will not
wild sierra
i was too scared to use it when i noticed it reduced all of my resistances by like 30
limpid peak
haha, yeah
big tradeoff
on the other hand, I find spells too slow, and I get hit trying to cast
so being able to cast and then dodge might be less damage for me
wild sierra
this isnt a problem to me because my main means of non-spell attack is charged heavies with extremely big weapons so most spells feel like they come out faster 
vivid spire
have you found the casting speed talisman yet?
Pray tell
That could be essential for Romina
I don't like using walkthroughs but like
It's essential for this the map is a mess
wild sierra
speaking of new lightning incantations ||Knight's Lightning Spear|| is cool as hell
vivid spire
So my shame vanished
vivid spire
speaking of new lightning incantations ||Knight's Lightning Spear|| is cool as h...
It is
limpid peak
it's called ||Beloved Stardust||
it's part of a series of quests, in north eastern Scadu Altus
limpid peak
it's 70 virtual dex, so fastest cast speed you can get
wild sierra
I was sort of worried that the DLC was only going to give me big flashy incantations that I would rarely use but that and ||Miquella's Destructo Disk|| are very reliable
haven't really tried out the ||big, slow holy arc|| because it seemed like a worse version of the one I mentioned above
limpid peak
but uh, big penalty to resistances
I'm looking forward to trying out a dragon build
hopefully the new incants are good
wild sierra
its kind of funny that enough people were getting to the minimum faith just to cast Golden Vow before bosses that they made it craftable as a consumable
limpid peak
haha, yeah I though that waas funny
I need faith for my build anyway, so no change for me, but it is cool
stone cove
I generally dont bother with buffing, it's far too annoying overall
wild sierra
I do it before bosses and if I can see a tough fight coming but basically only Golden Vow + Funny Flask
Flame Give me Strength is fun but it doesn't last long enough
old brook
Fire, Grant Me Strength is just too coole
stone cove
I just my physic and the odd cheeky weapon buff of some kind
old brook
Also the secret stamina regen
wild sierra
Flame Protect Me is invaluable for the Furnace Golems
stone cove
usualyl greases, but i can pull out ye olde Blackflame blade for surpise, your giant health bar is getting wrecked
wild sierra
i can ||get flushed in the fire bowl|| three or four times without dying as long as I keep that up
stone cove
Oh, lol, i nevefr thoguht of that
old brook
That is insane the fire bowl does so much damage but I guess I haven't seen one in like 11 scadutree buffs
I just seen em mulch folks level 750
tranquil copper
Can ||bayle|| be bled
and frozen
wild sierra
I encountered the ones ||in the lake under Messmer's house|| yesterday and ||saw all the notes telling me to chuck a furnace pot into the dead one... I expected it to explode not to turn it on!||
vestal night
Oh that's what you're supposed to do there?
wild sierra
yeah it's a very cool moment that it works
except it did mean that I had to fight two in a row :p
and they're a little tedious even when you've got the pattern down
haven't received anything that would tempt me to change my physick composition yet but I am glad they're throwing some funny ones in there
junior spade
my character is addicted to boiled crab for sure, that stuffs really nice
easy to buy buff so its nice
tranquil copper
haven't received anything that would tempt me to change my physick composition y...
have you got ||the deflection hardtear|| yet? If so I'd highly recommend trying it out
I wasn't sold on it until I properly tried it and man
tranquil copper
thats how I thought about it too
but what it ended up doing is make me want to try sekiro again lmao
junior spade
😭 which i will never do
wild sierra
have you got ||the deflection hardtear|| yet? If so I'd highly recommend trying ...
the one from ||the first funace golem||?
I should try it out, but I have only been making occasional use of shields
dusty kraken
Hmm...||Smithscript Dagger is less impressive than I was hoping. The range and accuracy are...not great. I wasn't expecting crazy damage but it's not really great at the 'throwing' part either.||
junior spade
I enjoyed the ||Smithscript Axe's throws a lot more||
limpid peak
Hmm...||Smithscript Dagger is less impressive than I was hoping. The range and a...
same
there's a weapon art that gives it better range, but I was hoping for infinite kukri essentially
the smithscript spear is cooler
and better range
wild sierra
i didnt end up levelling it or trying it but the ||smithscript hammer|| has a wonderfully funny animation
the spear seems very cool too yeah
junior spade
i havent tried it upgraded yet but for the throwing daggers i did find a shotgun skill for it lmao
not sure if its Good but its Funny
real shadow
I enjoyed the ||Smithscript Axe's throws a lot more||
The ||greathammer|| version is fun, even if the windup is a bitch.
limpid peak
there's a shotgun ||crossbow||
junior spade
hell yeah
after work today ill be around if anyone needs summons/dlc help, might as well do something useful since all i notably have left is final stuff and its kicking my butt
tranquil copper
depending on whne exactly I'll be free to give a hand with final boss potentially
for you i mean. Also freya and uuuh someone I forgor who will be around, said yday I'd help with final boss for em. I saw something that should make me a bit better at doing my job in that fight
tranquil copper
installing CE is honestly the worst part
junior spade
for you i mean. Also freya and uuuh someone I forgor who will be around, said yd...
Thanks! But for now I'll pass; I wanna beat the final boss on my own / with the story npcs.
tropic stream
Thank you for the tip lol
tranquil copper
just because the person who makes it keeps stuffing it with more shit you don't want if you don't pay for it
tranquil copper
Thanks! But for now I'll pass; I wanna beat the final boss on my own / with the ...
o7 fairnuff
junior spade
its just a fun tradition for me with fromsoft final bosses, i like to take the story boiz with me
actually good question for the dlc: how do scadutree blessings work with multiplayer / being summoned, i wonder
tranquil copper
actually good question for the dlc: how do scadutree blessings work with multipl...
honestly not sure, I'll check next time I'm summoned
didn't think to check when mouse summoned me for messmer
wild sierra
probably not how it works but it'd be kind of funny if it ignored your scadutree progression entirely in favour of the host's revered spirit ash progression
golden pond
That'd be great
tranquil copper
probably not how it works but it'd be kind of funny if it ignored your scadutree...
honestly considering that caps at +10 that'd be busted
because you can very easily have like 5/5 - but if you apply somber levelling rules to spirit ashes then that's 5/10
:')
steel scroll
Fighting the final boss of the dlc now. Phase 1 is really fun but then phase 2 used a move on me that looked like something someone would mod into the game as a joke.
tranquil copper
Fighting the final boss of the dlc now. Phase 1 is really fun but then phase 2 u...
||elden beast if it didn't job the fight vs you lmao||
tranquil copper
Now all I have ahead of me is Scathutree Avatar and Romina
@ me if you want a friend for Romina, I don't have the other unlocked I... don't think? Actually it might not be that bad to reach it 🤔
what's the route again? ||secret coffin in shadow keep?||
mellow silo
Yeah it's just through Moorth Ruin Hole > Bonny Village > Shadow Keep Church District > Boss
tranquil copper
aight gimme a sec then I can run that rq
tranquil copper
its for the other one mentioned
mellow silo
For the Scathutree Avatar
limpid peak
oh, I missed that
tranquil copper
nw
frail ferry
mellow silo
Poor Limgrave and Caelid
vestal night
interesting
limpid peak
I really want to know how they are connected
and also what happened with Farum Azula
junior spade
"its about the size of limgrave" my ass
mellow silo
Yeah this is an entire different game lol
Honestly I think theyve gotten their formula pretty much perfect with this one, world design wise
junior spade
this does make me want to go back to an area and read some text
if anyone has a second cuz im at work, whats the exact text on the Tower of Suppression say
vestal night
if anyone has a second cuz im at work, whats the exact text on the Tower of Supp...
||"The very center of the Lands Between.||
||All manners of Death wash up here, only to be suppressed."||
tranquil copper
@tacit owl sorry for the wrong ping 🙏
testing something dumb first
oh god wrong ping sorry
@mellow silo LANCER like last time ye?
mellow silo
Ye
tranquil copper
oke will have sign down v shortly just need to relaunch game
frozen olive
ok i got every scadutree fragment
tranquil copper
noicew!
junior spade
oh dang good job
frozen olive
now for all of the revered spirit ashes
junior spade
im still short a few im at 17
tranquil copper
spoilered for location spoilers and armor spoilers - v funny how thin that killplane is tho
golden pond
||At rellana with 3 blessing, how bad is it chat||
tranquil copper
@mellow silo signs down
frozen olive
i have obtained the god sword from elden beast so i can do the funny albinauric slaughter
tranquil copper
||At rellana with 3 blessing, how bad is it chat||
only 1 behind where I was you should be fine
frozen olive
||At rellana with 3 blessing, how bad is it chat||
||easiest boss in the dlc for me, i defeated her first try with no effort||
tranquil copper
||she's the most traditionally fair boss in the dlc imo||
golden pond
||we caster form with my silly magic damage, isn't she like resistant to that||
frozen olive
||i used a summon like Miyazaki intended and just hit her with spells and she just died||
tranquil copper
so yeah you shouldn't have issues
golden pond
aight
tranquil copper
||we caster form with my silly magic damage, isn't she like resistant to that||
||she is, but also like. Most of her difficulty is people eating shit to combos||
golden pond
battlemage Hugues time
frozen olive
||if you don't immediately run towards her you kinda win||
tranquil copper
<@1041538821831004170> signs down
uuuh lmk if you want me at Romina first btw
need to warp over but can do
ahk nvm all good
mellow silo
That was sad lmao
tranquil copper
dw about it, some of those are potentially multi-hit bugged
e.g. sometimes the boss can just give you 2 bleed procs back to back
golden pond
half health first try, gaming
golden pond
||my ass got roll caught when she threw swords at me and dashed right after, couldnt' dodge :C||
tranquil copper
Does the avatar just have a single healthbar?
uuuuh how in-depth do you want me to go
if at all
mellow silo
All of it
tranquil copper
||ok so once we get this one to "0" its ripostable to kill it, kill 3 and we win||
mellow silo
How many healthbars does this dude have
tranquil copper
||the more we kill the more moves it gets||
steel scroll
I can't believe they let this dlc out with a bugged summon next to the final boss.
golden pond
||I really wish swords went where they're pointing or where the boss is attacking. Tired of going for a big cast cause enemy focusing a summon and then getting surprise swords in the face||
tranquil copper
@mellow silo taking a quick trip to upgrade a wep 2s
steel scroll
Huh? I havent had that yet
||thiollier just stands there when I summon him.||
junior spade
Oh ill keep an eye on that, he's been my mvp for my attempts thus far
tranquil copper
aight placing sign @mellow silo
golden pond
god, i forgot how dumb rock blaster is when you're allowed to get it off
wild sierra
one of my summons got stuck in the door first time I fought ||golden hippo|| but she worked just fine after that
glossy delta
Thinking about the (late boss fight) ||miquella maniacs civil war|| again
I'm wondering if aggro is preset in that fight
||In my version ahnsbach went for leda and thiollier for Moore, and they were the ones with dialogue for each other||
||That, and using poison mist to bypass the verdigris feels downright intentional||
tranquil copper
im sorry I ran out of flasks and had to try eating a meat dumpling 😔
glossy delta
Cannibal moment 😔
tranquil copper
ok hotbars fixed, I should be good this time
mellow silo
Done for now I think
glossy stag
So about ||Bayle|| boss fight.
mellow silo
Need to learn this fight solo
tranquil copper
fairnuff, im sorry im not enough help 😔
tranquil copper
So about ||Bayle|| boss fight.
mhm?
grave plinth
So about ||Bayle|| boss fight.
||CURSE YOU BAYLE!!!!||
glossy stag
During certain attacks ||his leg stops being a hitbox??||
glossy delta
He's got the jump tech like us 
tranquil copper
During certain attacks ||his leg stops being a hitbox??||
might be a bug, I had that happen with a different mob ||the golden hippos. During their long drawn out grab anim the only part that was possible for me to hit was the head||
which is. Definitely not intentional
because ||the head is the part that grabs you funnily enough||
glossy stag
||Swinging through the leg with weapon visibility going into it.||
||I think it's during one of his breath attacks||
wild sierra
might be a bug, I had that happen with a different mob ||the golden hippos. Duri...
I always figured that bosses just become immortal in general when doing synced grab attacks like that
but maybe you didn't mean "when it hits someone"
glossy stag
I assume that meant while doing unsuccessful grab?
tranquil copper
but maybe you didn't mean "when it hits someone"
no I meant when it started the windup on it
I'm aware that things aren't hittable in grabs/backstabs/ripostes - the issue is that while its scraping its head on the floor trying to grab its not possible to hit it anywhere except the head
sword phased clean through the body, no damage
wild sierra
I can sort of imagine how that would happen in the backend, still annoying though
hopefully something they can patch reasonably quickly
tranquil copper
🤞
though I hope more for a fix to C.G.'s hitboxes
that one was already something they fixed with the bleed dogs in base game
so im confused as to how they had it happen again on a smaller scale
old brook
shakes self while yelling 'STOP PANIC DODGING THEY PLAN FOR THAT'
tranquil copper
so im confused as to how they had it happen again on a smaller scale
actually shit no I understand exactly how that happened
fuck how did I miss that
its because ||the charge hitbox is a boar charge hitbox, and they did the exact same thing that caused the bleed dog issue in base game - they just used the pre-existing boar hitboxes from the charge with w/e scaling method and forgot to check||
fuck
steel scroll
Fromsoft worlds worst hog crankers
Also I'm thinking the meme build for final boss is ||the new guard boost shield from Morris and a bleed katana. I'm using the shield at the moment and it just absolutely mogs on phase 1 so far. He CANT guard break you.||
vernal imp
||easiest boss in the dlc for me, i defeated her first try with no effort||
cragblade executioner’s great axe my beloved
tranquil copper
Also I'm thinking the meme build for final boss is ||the new guard boost shield ...
the ||cross spear idr the exact name from base game ends up better because you can poke while guarding so its 100% safe while still doing equal/slightly more status. Saw a vid recently where they clown on him in like 5m total with none of the desperate bullshit I attempted||
also fuckit while I have CE installed im going to check C.G.'s boxes >:( this has bugged me for too long now
glossy delta
I'm looking forward to trying the boss above on my int character
Carian thrusting shield has 76 guard boost and I know two handing shields improves it further
tranquil copper
aight not quite as bad as the 15k dps dogs from base game
still not great though considering its a boss, chopping this up so there's not 2m of footage to sit through before seeing the thing in question
junior spade
Also I'm thinking the meme build for final boss is ||the new guard boost shield ...
||I am also using that shield, but with milady as my status weapon instead; combined with marika's hair im tanking damage really well in phase 1+2 aside from the meteors ||
tranquil copper
aight got C.G. in 1080p doing a double/single hit respectively, times mentioned in vid description || https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkZ-4YmDlBo || - boss spoilers for anyone who hasn't been to the back of the main focus legacy dungeon ||the shadow keep||
i dont have fancy visualisers so had to do it the old fashioned way 😔
steel scroll
Question for others who've done the final dlc boss. ||What does Miquella say when he yoinks you in the fight? He says something about a thousand year journey and I'm wondering why that sounds exactly like what Ranni's ending is about||
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Question for others who've done the final dlc boss. ||What does Miquella say whe...
||"Thousand year journey guided by Compassion."||
purposely similar, I think, but a little different
tranquil copper
Question for others who've done the final dlc boss. ||What does Miquella say whe...
||its exactly that - its like they have a designated tenure of 1000 years and they tell you what will be done with it||
steel scroll
Wondering if that's ||just artistic shorthand for "a very long time, an age."||
vernal imp
I’m pretty early in but || Leda seems like a very low key totally murderous nutcase ||
vestal night
yeah
vernal imp
I am also madly in love with Freyja’s design, so cool.
frozen olive
ok so
steel scroll
Unless there's a post -final boss twist I'm extremely surprised that there was no lore additions on ||the gloam-eyed queen. We're in a giant graveyard prison but nothing about the icon of destined death??||
rich lintel
I am also madly in love with Freyja’s design, so cool.
so truuue i can’t wait to get her armor
frozen olive
(final boss spoilers)||not summoning thiollier and Ansbach turned my damage from barely having any effect on Consort Radahn's healthbar to it doing yellow damage every cast which is an insane increase||
||now i just need to have my summon survive the first phase||
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(final boss spoilers)||not summoning thiollier and Ansbach turned my damage from...
really? jeez
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||now i just need to have my summon survive the first phase||
good fucking luck with that
vestal night
phantom summons increase boss health by a lot, so that doesn't surprise me too much
steel scroll
Yeah don't fuckin bother with gold summons unless you have a game plan to keep them alive
frozen olive
i'm going to go do that too
then i need to tune my setup a bit and grab a bunch of levels
frozen olive
phantom summons increase boss health by a lot, so that doesn't surprise me too m...
they seem to be incredibly fucking detrimental even though they technically also help sorta keeping aggro and doing some damage
i really don't think it's worth it though
you're basically nerfing yourself having them there
don't think it was worth using ||the dragon priestess heart for the dragon cult buff either since you need to buff for it||
steel scroll
My new headcanon for my tarnished's ending is ||they take Marika's spirit ash with them for Ranni's voyage and all three kill the Greater Will together.||
frozen olive
(final boss spoilers)||20% damage sounds pretty fucking good but there is just NO fucking time to actually recast it during the fight cause Consort Radahn will absolutely fuck you into oblivion if you try||
tranquil copper
(final boss spoilers)||not summoning thiollier and Ansbach turned my damage from...
well yeah, 1 summon is 1.5x hp and two is straight 2x hp. It has ||50k hp|| base in ng+0
past shard
x1 summon sorta seems worth it, but x2 seems to really inflate boss HP while both get mowed down by big swings of bosses in the DLC.
frozen olive
well yeah, 1 summon is 1.5x hp and two is straight 2x hp. It has ||50k hp|| base...
fucking hell
tranquil copper
so with two summons you got a wonderful ||100k hp|| to work with. Elden Beast for comparison has 22k
and is regarded as "too tanky" usually
frozen olive
x1 summon sorta seems worth it, but x2 seems to really inflate boss HP while bot...
i tried it a bunch of times with 2x and it genuinely had me questioning if the boss was possible for me to defeat because my fully boosted attacks were doing absolutely no damage
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so with two summons you got a wonderful ||100k hp|| to work with. Elden Beast fo...
holy fuck
mellow silo
More summons always help, either way
tranquil copper
depends on your summons, I think for that fight specifically it does
just because it has 0 chill so someone taking aggro mid combo is literally life saving
paper badge
More summons always help, either way
actually maybe not in this case
mellow silo
It may be 2x HP, but it's also 3x DPS on yourside
past shard
It really isn't in the case of NPC summons, they get blended by AoE
mellow silo
And spreads aggro
paper badge
and yeah NPC summons are useless
frozen olive
only ||Ansbach|| potentially is worth it
tranquil copper
also @paper badge now that you're here lemme boot up and warp over to drop my sign
mellow silo
Player summons then
frozen olive
i would absolutely 100% take player summons over them
mellow silo
NPC Summons are... Inconsistent
frozen olive
player summons might be good
||Ansbach could potentially be good but not Thiollier, he just does not have a build that can be helpful enough to justify fighting a 100k health Consort Radahn||
mellow silo
I've been running the whole game with player summons, they're pretty nice
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also <@103226144261681152> now that you're here lemme boot up and warp over to d...
I didn't realize base hp was 50k
frozen olive
||Ansbach at least does fucking bleed||
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so maybe just one player summon will be fine
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we'll see if just the two of us can do it
tranquil copper
I'm down to try o7 just loading in and need to swap an infusion then im ready
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I am straight up not bothering with melee lmao
I am only using a weapon to have bloodhound step
I am going to spam Knight's Lightning Spear
tranquil copper
I dont see hte cast windows on most of phase 2 so I can only melee lmao
paper badge
PW is still set to HORUS
tranquil copper
yee games real slow to load, warping over now
signs down, left side when looking at the fog, closest to the stairs
should see me with a big hammer
very very big hammer
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I SEE YOU YAY
frozen olive
i would love some aromatics, need to see if i can make some
frozen olive
someone told me (final boss spoilers)||A shield works to block some of Consort Radahns bigger attacks so imma try it out||
tranquil copper
gah
ok, I need the deflecting tear
we have good enough connection that I can use it
tranquil copper
someone told me (final boss spoilers)||A shield works to block some of Consort R...
ye I said this before as well
paper badge
ok, I need the deflecting tear
tbh I felt good about that attempt
tranquil copper
regarding the ||orbital ion cannon|| he has
tranquil copper
tbh I felt good about that attempt
yeah no that was going great I just need to take less damage
because I have half flasks and I crutched hard off them usually
steel scroll
okay rampant over-analysis time, full dlc spoilers. ||miquella's entire scheme is to chop up himself and his brothers and merge them into a holy weapon. Miquella the God is a Warrior Jar.||
frozen olive
i've grabbed a ||carian shield and put barricade shield on it and i'm going to max level it real quick, not optimal i don't think for scaling but it hopefully doesn't need to be||
tranquil copper
@paper badge signs down again
tranquil copper
i've grabbed a ||carian shield and put barricade shield on it and i'm going to m...
scaling isnt what you need its guard stability and high ||phys and holy res||
specifically after getting a ||holy or magic|| infusion you want to have ||95 phys and 70+ holy with as much magic after as possible||
frozen olive
scaling isnt what you need its guard stability and high ||phys and holy res||
what should i use do you think?
tranquil copper
anything that fits the criteria i mentioned
i used a golden greatshield
someone else used a haligtree one
blegh im getting hit by too much stuff still
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think I'm gonna lighten my buff routine at the start
limpid peak
found Euporia
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to just golden vow and florissax
steel scroll
eyes on the inside, baby
tranquil copper
sign dropped
limpid peak
and also, goddamn it Miyazaki, stop putting death defying parkour sections in your game
limpid peak
eyes on the inside, baby
my insight is not high enough, I missed it entirely before checking a guide for the scadutree fragment
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@tranquil copper gonna try with a bit less health (priimal gliintblade talisman for cheaper spells)
tranquil copper
gl
frozen olive
found Euporia
is this good enough?
tranquil copper
is this good enough?
prio is ||holy|| over other elements
frozen olive
hmmm ok
tranquil copper
||only his rocks do magic, holy is every single light beam and slightly worked into his swords||
frozen olive
i put a ||holy enchantment on it||
tranquil copper
okay maybe not
also yeah no I had to add 10 vig so I had 60 to fight him
tranquil copper
i put a ||holy enchantment on it||
oof might need a diff base shield then
frozen olive
aight
tranquil copper
signs down btw esoteric when you're ready
frozen olive
fuck
the ||golden greatshield is too heavy for my setup so i wanted to find a lighter one||
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got thrown off the rhythm
tranquil copper
i tried :(
there was a super spooky bit at the start where he just
A posed at me
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you did good!
tranquil copper
menacingly
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I got thrown off of my dodge tempo lmao
dark thorn
Finished watching a vid on the bosses of the DLC, and...am I just thick or did I play the base game wrong? Because a lot of the attacks in it remind me of similar stuff in the base game that I could never avoid, especially stuff in ||consort radhans fight.||
past shard
From what I've seen, bosses have openings, but they really make you work to fully dodge stuff now
frozen olive
why the fuck does the Haligtree knight shield only frop from like 2 knights in the game at a 4% drop chance according to the wiki
bruh
tranquil copper
holy shit
he sent all the clones at me and then fucking went across the entire arena for you
dark thorn
From what I've seen, bosses have openings, but they really make you work to full...
I could barely survive against radagon, regular radhan or malenia 😔
tranquil copper
if you know the roll timing you can do the deflect tear timing
take a good ||phys/holy|| res shiel as I mentioned to freyja above for when deflect doesnt happen and you're golden
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nah I want a fast weapon
tranquil copper
fairnuff, wasnt saying take a heavy weapon was just mentioning the shield
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what would you suggest to complement your stuff: milady, dane's footwork, or beast claws?
tranquil copper
bc guard counters no matter the weapon are
tranquil copper
what would you suggest to complement your stuff: milady, dane's footwork, or bea...
milady
the other two are far from bad, the issue is reach
I whiff even with my big fuckoff stick depending on what attack I attempt to punish
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I don't even have a max-upgraded shiield lmao
tranquil copper
mine is unupgraded
tranquil copper
all that matters is the infusion
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siince I played sekiro
tranquil copper
completely fair
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so I don't wanna git gud at the deflection gameplay r/n
tranquil copper
but yeah unupgraded you can get like this
also @frozen olive one you might have is the Golden Beast Crest Shield?
drops off the grafted scions iirc
that or its a physical pickup not sure
you can also go for an uninfused erdtree greatshield
which you just. Get off an erdtree sentinel in base game iirc
the guard boost istn as high which you'll need to watch out for but the rest of it is fine
seeing windows that arent there
my b
uguuu lemme see if I have a lighter weapon for counters
tranquil copper
mood
if you have a cold infusion
worth
big worth
status its most vulnerable to in both phases
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I was more planning on dex
tranquil copper
I'll also break out the ||hefty rot pots|| for phase 1 because its an instant pop
steel scroll
just realised my game plan for the final dlc boss involves ||using the Great Stars. YOU CANT HOLD THESE ONES BACK, MOTHERFUCKER||
tranquil copper
aight ready
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I am now 60 dex
limpid peak
done procrastinating, final boss time for me as well
tranquil copper
ok now, now im ready
frozen olive
also <@184975692306448385> one you might have is the Golden Beast Crest Shield?
i'll give it a look
tranquil copper
o7 as metnioned the erdtree sentinel shield should also work
less magic res but so be it
frozen olive
apparently ||Erdtree greatshield just has the best stats so like, i kinda want it||
glossy delta
So, can anyone who has been to (location) ||Scadutree Base|| tell me
(boss mechanics and name) ||does the Scadutree Avatar just have three healthbars or is there a puzzle mechanic||
||Am I not supposed to riposte it when it exposes the weakpoint at 0 HP or something||
tranquil copper
So, can anyone who has been to (location) ||Scadutree Base|| tell me
(boss mecha...
||you're doing it correctly once you do it 3 times it dies||
frozen olive
FUUUUUUUUUUCK
steel scroll
spoilers for that boss ||just kill em three times, hit their head for massive damage||
glossy delta
||Got it, thats what I figured but just checking||
frozen olive
triple item drop
no shield
vestal night
Lmao
tranquil copper
yeah ok no morningstar was not the correct choice of backup weapon
no reach at all
frozen olive
i'm going to get the full haligtree knight set at this point before i get the shield
twilit path
Hell yeah, unexpectedly got coverage for the rest of the day so gonna go home, workout, then play elden ring for 10 hours
tranquil copper
i'm going to get the full haligtree knight set at this point before i get the sh...
you very much dont need that specific one - it was something a friend used I don't have it at all and it worked for me
glossy delta
(More about the above boss) ||Wow flame skewer chews this thing up likes its made out of paper||
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god I only have 10 finger remedies left lmao
tranquil copper
i can drop you some
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soon I'll need to go farm materials to do multiplayer
frozen olive
ok i fucking got it
tranquil copper
I dont plan on summoning any time soon if only because I want to get the deflects down perfectly
frozen olive
stupid ass Haligtree
frozen olive
proof positive that Miquella sucks, designing such a dogshit place
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dont' see 'em
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erdleaf flower
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got your tempo thrown off?
mellow silo
Annihilated Hippo in a single attempt
tranquil copper
so going off of rough feel and tempo. Need the audio bc i cant see shit for my hammer lmao
mellow silo
Greatsword putting in WORK
tranquil copper
main downside of this thing
area spoilers for final boss fog, but thats what I see 90% of the time
or worse bc mid swing
atomic jetty
yeah lol the downside of the bonk
tranquil copper
welp i was about to say im now 1/2 away from instant death but lmao
didnt end up mattering
limpid peak
well, I got to phase 2. Wow.
umbral portal
Do be aware summoning the friends outside the arena makes the fight harder
limpid peak
time to dodge the undodgeable kill the unkillable
tranquil copper
can we even do it from inside the arena?
if we can im going to take a quick bio break then break into the arena to put sign down
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@tranquil copper I know it has less reach but I'm gonna try the beast claws because I like their dashing attack
and
umbral portal
can we even do it from inside the arena?
You cannot
tranquil copper
😔
tranquil copper
<@189459655657783296> I know it has less reach but I'm gonna try the beast claws...
go for it
junior spade
Finished watching a vid on the bosses of the DLC, and...am I just thick or did I...
you can dodge/tank a lot of things with proper builds, especially with some of the new items/power ups/flask stuff
tranquil copper
taking a quick bio break in case you summon me before im back @paper badge
limpid peak
okay, how do you dodge the ||gravity tornado, where he pulls you in and the area becomes a repeating AOE||?
tranquil copper
oke back
old brook
Beast claws also activate Winged Talisman with like every attack.. they did hand to hand nicely
tranquil copper
okay, how do you dodge the ||gravity tornado, where he pulls you in and the area...
||immediately after getting hit by the succ dodge backwards and do not stop dodging backwards. Alternatively block and pray with a high phys/magic res shield||
||alternatively alternatively, dodge the initial succ and he wont ||
ok irl noise is over
locked in, lets do this properly
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I'm liking the claws setup I just gotta keep my dodge tempo
limpid peak
I do miss the claws
I saw the smithscript spear and respecced to use that, and it was really good on a lot of bosses
but damn, I wish I had an occult claw right now
well, I do, but I'd have to respec for the arcane to use them properly
tranquil copper
fuckin
I blocked an attack why no guard counter
:(
oof
I saw that at the end
oh, fun fact worth knowing about what just got you: ||he can combo lightspeed slashes > grav slam + expansion > jump + lightspeed > slam + expansion||
he can't go infinite but
its unironically a 40 hit combo
atomic jetty
st trina spoilers
||i love that her quest is just, ye go up to her and kill yourself a bunch of times in a row|| 10/10
old brook
Reminder to all: don't use B to cancel the spyglass
tranquil copper
hehe roll
old brook
This is my third time in the dlc forgetting this
tranquil copper
/backstep
atomic jetty
did you fall off a cliff?
atomic jetty
lol
mellow silo
How do I get to the places north/northeast of the shadow keep?
junior spade
st trina spoilers
||i love that her quest is just, ye go up to her and kill your...
||also make someone mad that they cant kill themselve as well as you||
tranquil copper
i've heard the axe is the best one of them
outside the spear
not tested any tho
real shadow
junior spade
for North of the shadowkeep,|| i had to go all the way up the storage area and then back down via elevator for a boss fight for part of it||
mellow silo
Which boss?
tranquil copper
Which boss?
C.G. ||Commander Gaius, fucked up boar hitbox man||
dark thorn
you can dodge/tank a lot of things with proper builds, especially with some of t...
I can imagine tanking some of this stuff, but it really does feel like the damage has gotten to a point where it's very hard to just...survive at times.
tranquil copper
I can imagine tanking some of this stuff, but it really does feel like the damag...
its not the damage its how long the combos are and how much of a timing delay some stuff can have
vernal imp
It is a little much IMO
I find myself not enjoying the boss fights much
And some enemies like fire knights do feel overturned
tranquil copper
oh the basic enemies sure
a lot of the larger humanoids have WAY too much poise
so that's ||your fire knights, hornsent knights, hornsent dancers, etc.||
they have more poise than crucible knights
dark thorn
its not the damage its how long the combos are and how much of a timing delay so...
I could forgive the long combos if a single nick didn't deal close to 1/2 my health.
tranquil copper
boss wise its mostly fine I have a few gripes about actual bugs bugs but I've mostly been enjoying. Real issue is just how obscenely large the health bars are on a few of them
tranquil copper
I could forgive the long combos if a single nick didn't deal close to 1/2 my hea...
that's scadutree blessing
final boss with its big meaty swings only takes 1/3 of my hp
past shard
I think lighter weapons may have an uphill battle on some bosses, because of lower poise damage.
dark thorn
I wonder if it was just my armor choices, since I used the same armor for most of the game with little elemental resistance...
past shard
Very possible, especially since everything in the DLC hits hard
junior spade
I can imagine tanking some of this stuff, but it really does feel like the damag...
you cant ignore the new blessings system at all, its gotten so much easier for me once i did what the base game taught me: if i cant beat a boss, go explore
if anything a HUGE lesson the dlc wants to make sure you know is exploring when you get stuck
tranquil copper
I wonder if it was just my armor choices, since I used the same armor for most o...
its a mix of you potentially having extremely weak armor (I can't see anyone successfuly wearing the beetle helmets for example as they actively subtract from your % mit) and or you not having done enough of the scadutree blessing
I for example got skill issued by a random side dungeon boss at +2 blessing
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@tranquil copper do you think we've done better with me on claws or me spamming lighting bolts?
tranquil copper
but then rolled one of the rememberance bosses at +4
tranquil copper
<@189459655657783296> do you think we've done better with me on claws or me spa...
bolts and milady have been better so far
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okay I'm gonna go back to bolts
dark thorn
you cant ignore the new blessings system at all, its gotten so much easier for m...
I never learned that lesson 😅
My first elden ring kill was the tree sentinel outside the starting tomb, and I used that same axe for 90% of my playthrough.
mellow silo
Welp time to Romina repeatedly until I learn how to not immediately die
junior spade
I never learned that lesson 😅
My first elden ring kill was the tree sentinel ...
youre gunna learn today!!
going back to the early parts of the dlc at blessing 10+ feels wild, truly
tranquil copper
ok downside @paper badge I'm on my last 3 uplifting aromatics. Upside: I have room for acid aromatics now
tranquil copper
going back to the early parts of the dlc at blessing 10+ feels wild, truly
y u p
even just the diff between +5 and +8 was enough to get my friend from going "wow this boss really fucking sucks" to "wow this is really nicely designed"
junior spade
that said man fuck fire knights forever i never wanna fight one ever again
i havent had a single boss ive felt bad about but the fire knights in shadow keep are my mortal nemesis
vivid spire
I am now awake
mellow silo
Thankfully Fire Knights are easy to solve by the power of Collosal Sword
Just stunlocked. Forever
tranquil copper
actually speaking of scadutree scaling
tranquil copper
this was made during the beta test but should still be mostly accurate - spoilered in case people dont want to have a relatively good idea of just how much the blessing impacts stuff
atomic jetty
tranquil copper
I can very easily back the numbers up however as im at +18 blessing and have about 20-30% res on armor normally
tranquil copper
How do I make a good melee build
mmm depends on purpose - you looking for guard counters, jumping attacks, just r1s
vivid spire
Does it stack with radagons icon
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ok downside <@103226144261681152> I'm on my last 3 uplifting aromatics. Upside: ...
re-memorizing my spells now
tranquil copper
Does it stack with radagons icon
it does but its not worth it at all
vivid spire
Why not
tranquil copper
the reason for it is how they work internally - both of them give you fake dex points specifically for cast speed
vivid spire
70 virtual dex seems amazing
tranquil copper
and there's a softcap for that
junior spade
a big question for melee imo is: do you want a shield and/or poise through things or not
vivid spire
I want mobility I guess so a shield
junior spade
or do you want to Dodge Forever
vivid spire
For now if stardust fixes my issue of casting speed I’ll just spam incants
tranquil copper
70 virtual dex seems amazing
the thing is the max cast speed is 70 dex, radagon's alone gives 30
and you can't have 0 dex
so if you're 40 dex base, and have radagons, your cast speed is maxed already
you cant go faster
the stardust also makes you take more damage like a soreseal for none of the benefits
glossy delta
You know
I just realized
(Early boss)||Dancing Lion isn't the first time we've seen a lion with horns||
||Those miniboss lions with the arm blades have omen-esque horns too||
||And..... they have blades bolted onto them, and are wrapped in chains?||
||Is this something||
junior spade
i havent noticed anything major between 60 and 70 dex cast speed myself
tranquil copper
i havent noticed anything major between 60 and 70 dex cast speed myself
there isn't that much of a diff yeah you're right
there's still a hard cap at 70 is more my point
so if you want to max it and have radagon's already then you're fine just doing 40 dex + radagon
realistically you only need about 20 dex + radagon to make a noticeably faster cast time
mellow silo
Need to get more Faith somehow...
junior spade
You know
I just realized
(Early boss)||Dancing Lion isn't the first time we've s...
||Dancing Lion also seems to be grafted omen, and we also know of someone big into grafting who really wanted to be like a lion guy||
mellow silo
Anyone here good at build math?
vestal night
You know
I just realized
(Early boss)||Dancing Lion isn't the first time we've s...
||well the Dancing Lion also isn't actually a lion, it's just two dudes in a costume||
twilit path
Bigger sword... better sword... bigger armor... better armor. Endurance maxed. Build done
glossy delta
||well the Dancing Lion also isn't actually a lion, it's just two dudes in a cos...
||Well yes||
||But the divine beast that its imitating is a horned lion||
vestal night
||oh the original beast. Yeah that could be||
tranquil copper
fextralife so incomplete info and stolen off a reddit post somewhere but like. If you need that 70 there are other ways to grab it
junior spade
||yeah, we dont fully know what the original beasts look like, just that they got slaughtered early on||
vivid spire
I only have 30 dex
tranquil copper
I only have 30 dex
ok so radagons icon will take you to basically cap
tranquil copper
the last 10 points dont matter
mellow silo
How much Endurance is 59 max equip load with Erdtree Favor +1
vivid spire
It’s just everything stuns me out of casting
tranquil copper
the stardust talisman is one of the most horrible trap items possible
tranquil copper
How much Endurance is 59 max equip load with Erdtree Favor +1
lemme check 2s
vivid spire
I can’t make progress if I can’t deal any damage at all
I should just learn how to do melee at this point
Because nothing I normally do is working
tranquil copper
How much Endurance is 59 max equip load with Erdtree Favor +1
126.2
you can get 112.0 if you run just 50 end
mellow silo
What. I meant more working backwards
tranquil copper
It’s just everything stuns me out of casting
yeah the dlc is quite punishing for casters, try swapping to faster spells because a lot of hte high cost ones have really high windups
tranquil copper
What. I meant more working backwards
OH
sorry I thought you said 59 end
my b
15 end
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@tranquil copper summoned
tranquil copper
15 end with erdtree favor +1 is 59.8 load
mellow silo
If I have Erdtree Favor 1, and required 59 equipment load, how many Endurance levels I need Endurance
Oh, nice
mellow silo
That's 10 levels... 2 from Dex... Can drop vig to 56 maybe to get the last 4
glossy delta
Also- Grahhhh
Thrusting Shields are cool
With no other weapon can you do a full four hit combo while the boss is doing their full four hit combo on you
I was so worried they'd suck
mellow silo
I'm trying desperately to squeeze 60 FTH into my build to use Messmer Orb
tranquil copper
If I have Erdtree Favor 1, and required 59 equipment load, how many Endurance le...
wait, 59 load to not heavy roll or 59 load to medium roll
holup
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I've pumped my faith up to 75 lmao
tranquil copper
those are two diff numbers
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so I was doing some really good damage I think
wonder if I should pop on the gravel seal
to boost lightning specifically
tranquil copper
so I was doing some really good damage I think
yee you were, I had good aggro management, the crit was a nice chunk, you're keeping poise pressure on
mellow silo
The weight of all my equipment is about 41
So id need 59 to be safely in medium roll territory
tranquil copper
The weight of all my equipment is about 41
aight gimme 2s
junior spade
Also- Grahhhh
Thrusting Shields are cool
With no other weapon can you do a full ...
you have singlehandedly made me want to try them
tropic stream
Moon-and-Fire is fuckin hilarious lmao
halcyon cobalt
Restarted on a new character to get a fresh experience with the DLC and I severely underestimated how long it takes to get to mohg, apparently you also have to beat radhan to access the DLC?
glossy delta
you have singlehandedly made me want to try them
If you do, the carian thrusting shield is better than the dueling shield even if you are not doing magic (alas 😔)
Better block stats and more or less equal damage
Just need to meet the 15 int minimum, it has d scaling in int in standard and you are gonna wanna keep it that way to keep its life-changingly huge guard boost
mellow silo
Yup, Radahn is needed as well
junior spade
Restarted on a new character to get a fresh experience with the DLC and I severe...
you do indeed
tranquil copper
@mellow silo need 34 End to make it a medium roll at 62 load (idk exact items so went slightly over to be safe), you can run 59.5-ish with 33 End
junior spade
not only that
but you really want base game endgame items anyways
i think going into the dlc with less than maxed out weapons will cause problems
mellow silo
My load is 41 though?
tranquil copper
oh my b
sry im
v bad at reading
yeah no the 15 I said earlier is fine then
halcyon cobalt
man :/ I was bankiig on the internal scaling of the new dlc leveling system.
So far my plan is rush radhan, rush mohg, acquire dryleaf arts, go back to base game and play normally lol
mellow silo
I think 15 works. I can probably squeeze 14 though if I lay off the crossbow, or go grab Erdtree +2
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god I keep typing '@luna' and it doesn't default to you @tranquil copper
i'm very sorry gay robot catgirl
marble palm
O
atomic jetty
@vivid spire if you wanna play it on somewhat easy mode
big shield + spear with everything that boosts guard boost, you just block and light attack, youll have to dodge grabs and be careful around aoes, but otherwise youre very safe
tranquil copper
sorry :') there's only 3 fwuffys tho
it wont default to me still but less likely to misclick
marble palm
Was wondering why I got pinged lol
No worries
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oh that opening went so bad
tranquil copper
yeah he does that sometimes
😔
was genuinely a nightmare summoning mimic tear in vs him
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I currently have dragoncrest greatsheld, golden braid, radagon's icon, and flock's canvas as my talismans
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opaline bubbletear and lightnign cracked tear
tranquil copper
I currently have dragoncrest greatsheld, golden braid, radagon's icon, and flock...
greatshield and golden braid are the same between both of us, you really cant do more
opaline bubbletear and deflection bubbletear for me
vivid spire
Hmmm
You see I can’t really rationalize myself doing melee because irl I’m kinda fit but still poor
So panic dodging when I get hit is automatic
mellow silo
Messmer Orb goes hard
vivid spire
Fuck it I’ll try.. spears? Idk poking and dodging might work
Maybe I need more fragments
I got to 11 last night
stone cove
Try backhand blades. The blindspot weapon art is a dodge
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greatshield and golden braid are the same between both of us, you really cant do...
I might change flock's canvas to carian filigreed crest for the sake of FP efficiency
tranquil copper
completely valid
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because I'm using it for both dodging and damage
tranquil copper
I desperately want to swap shabriris woe off but dont trust games aggro system
junior spade
the three melee builds ive had a lot of fun with in the dlc include
||1. Blade of Solitude greatsword spam, its got a cool weapon art
2. Milady, switching weapon art elements per boss to hit weaknesses or status effects
3. boss weapon that was a cool halberd/spear with a sick status and weapon art||
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I desperately want to swap shabriris woe off but dont trust games aggro system
honestly do it if you can fit something really good into there
let's at least try it out this run
twilit path
few things hit like getting that deep bone FEEL that there is a secret door in a room
and then finding it
junior spade
yessss
its so satisfying to have your Secrets Radar going off
the wildest ones for me have been some of these damn catacombs
why does (catacomb, secrets spoiler) ||Fog Rift catacomb have a trap that has a room within the trap||
twilit path
I'm playing offline so not seeing any words or anything and I've found I think four or five secret walls so far
which means I'm probably missing more as well
but the satisfaciton... every time
junior spade
its unmatched
vestal night
why does (catacomb, secrets spoiler) ||Fog Rift catacomb have a trap that has a ...
that one was pretty layered yeah
twilit path
this one led me to a whole fuckin new grace so who knows
vestal night
those catacombs are large af in some cases
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I really need to learn phase 2 dodge timings better
tranquil copper
honestly I'd likely have less issues with dodging in phase 2 if the arena was flat
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@tranquil copper I gotta eat something real quick
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I'll try to be fast
tranquil copper
no rush, I have antoehr 1h 45m
vivid spire
the three melee builds ive had a lot of fun with in the dlc include
||1. Blade o...
I’ll do milady
And shield
tranquil copper
and im free after that i just need to not miss my friend and i's wedding in 14
tranquil copper
I’ll do milady
my only real rec is "not daggers". Everything else is in a p solid spot and its worth swapping between stuff as you feel necessary for bosses
I personally went through the dlc mostly wtih uchigatana, moonveil, the boss weapon from ||rellana||, and my trusty cross spear
but at the end I swapped into partisan/giant-crusher
I really need to use the partisan more because there are several guard counters I could be doing better and am just... not...
vivid spire
I could do my naginta black flame build
tranquil copper
yee that'd work p sure
junior spade
naginata seems pretty beloved by a lot of folk
i really like melee weapons with good status stuff, since mimic tear helps you stack it up
vivid spire
I haven’t done a spell blade in
God idk years
Screw it I’ll do it
I was gonna try kendo next summer which might be fun
junior spade
carian spellblade stuff feels good
love the weapon arts that give you a huge magic sword
theres even one in the dlc 👀
vivid spire
I do that cool thing called
Spellblade without the sorcery
I do love how in canon anyone can learn sorcery and incantations
And the reason that scrolls and prayer books are hidden away is because the clergy are aware of the power imbalance
Although I’ll have to start making greases
vivid spire
Bloodflame and Blackflame won’t do shit against Mesmer
junior spade
but im lazy
tranquil copper
Bloodflame and Blackflame won’t do shit against Mesmer
the latter will
vivid spire
Bloodflame?
tranquil copper
former isn't the best pick vs just raw blood grease but t he latter will
blackflame
reason blackflame works is it doesnt replace any base damage and has a %DoT attached to it
glossy delta
Okay last bit of fellating thrusting shields I'll do for now
I just realized
When you are doing guard points from the light attacks
It does not count as having a shield raised
So your stamina regens at full speed
tranquil copper
@vivid spire weak statuses are bleed/frostbite, defences wise weakest to magic and holy damage - fire and lightning most resisted
tranquil copper
as mentioned blackflame works fine bc most of its work is the % damage DoT
vivid spire
Out of all the characters this one might be the most uhh
Hybrid caster out of them all
Purely because magic is more of a weird science in ER and making greases and shit makes me feel like a scientist lmao
tranquil copper
vivid spire
Oooh
vivid spire
So blackflame will do just fine
tranquil copper
yes
vivid spire
My issue is as soon as I found nesmer I was shocked and immediately died
I wasn’t expecting that
At all
tranquil copper
its why blackflame is still competitive with most things for chip. For raw power it might lose vs other stuff but if its easy to get your blackflame proc off then its free % damage
frozen olive
prepping a bit more for the final boss
vivid spire
What other infants should I take
tranquil copper
black flame (the lil fireball you were using earlier) is 2.5%, scouring is also 2.5% but can multiproc on wider bosses where you can get multiple hits as it lingers, black flame ritual has no numbers listed but would be too slow in this case, black flame tornado is also unlisted but too slow
frozen olive
i am now level 205
tranquil copper
What other infants should I take
uh I know you meant incants but funni
frozen olive
What other infants should I take
dimensionally travel to DS3 and grab Ocelotte
tranquil copper
What other infants should I take
for messmer specifically? Fast holy damage. I'd avoid poison/rot just bc of how slow they are to apply and fp intensive they are
vivid spire
Oh ok
tranquil copper
also if he's weak to bleed/frost then he's going to resist poison/rot
mellow silo
Goddamn I'm blowing through larval tears fast
tranquil copper
9/10 times its how they do it with some exceptions
mellow silo
I found an Ash Of War I really like, but it doesnt let me grab Heavy and instead is favoring Dex more, so I need to reinvest to be more Dex focused
frail ferry
good lord that second phase
tranquil copper
frozen lightning spear might be worth taking @vivid spire
depends how you feel about the cast time
vivid spire
Ooh ok
frail ferry
it feels like im fighting the protagonist
mellow silo
And I need more Mind investment too
tranquil copper
it feels like im fighting the protagonist
no the protag is if we ever have to ||go back for true prime||
umbral portal
Howre you guys enjoying the DLC so far
frozen olive
it's pretty fucking good
tranquil copper
Howre you guys enjoying the DLC so far
scaling gripes, 2 bugged bosses, otherwise v enjoyable
mellow silo
Probably like 22 Strength, 40 Dex, 60 Faith, whatever else goes to vig and mind
Also means I can grab fire perfume!
frozen olive
i am doing some devious things
old brook
I found an Ash Of War I really like, but it doesnt let me grab Heavy and instead...
:|a I thought every ash could be made Heavy/Keen/Quality
frozen olive
i still need to farm at least 10 more levels of vigor
but first i will find the ashes i need to max out my spirit blessing
frail ferry
yeah imma just have to scour the globe for fragments huhb
vivid spire
How many fragments Yall at
frail ferry
16
old brook
10
frozen olive
20
tranquil copper
How many fragments Yall at
which boss, for mess I was at 14 when I beat him but that felt overtuned so 12 is probs fine
old brook
Goin' it slow
vivid spire
Romina
tranquil copper
romina was 14/15
mellow silo
Oof
Worth though
Once again I'm back at Dex/Faith
Just can't escape it lmao
Now time to hunt down a fire perfume
limpid peak
How many fragments Yall at
50
mellow silo
Gave my Fire Greatsword Crucible Wings btw
limpid peak
(20)
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@tranquil copper okay back
tranquil copper
wb o7 putting sign down
kind garden
Quick question
I did the Divine Beast Dancing Lion pretty early
When do you have to beat it to progress
kind garden
?
limpid peak
it's an optional boss
kind garden
I thought it were a mandatory bossfight lmao
mellow silo
Don't you have to beat it to get to the tower?
tranquil copper
the ||thing it guards is something you teleport past in story usually|| and the only other thing is a ||fragment||
tranquil copper
I thought it were a mandatory bossfight lmao
same!
tranquil copper
Don't you have to beat it to get to the tower?
no you get warped there p sure. That or you're inteded to fight it later and we all did it wrong
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afaik there's only three truly mandatory fights in the DLC
limpid peak
I really don't know why it just ||teleports you to the end||
since you could just... use the door
tranquil copper
afaik there's only three truly mandatory fights in the DLC
yeah, they're ||messmer, romina, and radahn||
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||Messmer, then Romina, then Radahn X Miquella||
tranquil copper
yup
god that opening was scuffed
triple slam at the opener just
isnt it
lmao
its the first time you've seen that isnt it
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we got 'em below half!!!!!! @tranquil copper
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did you have shab's woe on?
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alrighty great
tranquil copper
agony
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sometimes it be like that
wanna take a break to farm for crafting mats? I need to get more furlcalling remedies
I'm already down to only like 14
tranquil copper
i'll be ready and waiting, the part I need for aromatics cant be farmed easily
vestal night
the sword and armor seem pretty funny
twilit path
I love the wing pose. Looks so good
limpid peak
the sword and armor seem pretty funny
the sword says "hit me all you want, I won't stop" the armour says "ow, ow stop hitting me"
tropic stream
So this is a bit of a dumb question probs
Item spoilers ||Does the two-handed talisman work on Rellana’s twin blades||
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@tranquil copper okie done farming
tranquil copper
<@189459655657783296> okie done farming
signs down o7
limpid peak
Item spoilers ||Does the two-handed talisman work on Rellana’s twin blades||
don't think so
tranquil copper
Item spoilers ||Does the two-handed talisman work on Rellana’s twin blades||
unsure - in theory yes
limpid peak
only two handed weapons, not paired weapons
tropic stream
Fuck it doesn’t
tranquil copper
because the game will just be checking for "is using it in both hands"
limpid peak
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Two-Handed+Sword+Talisman fextra confirms
(although always take fextra with a grain of salt)
tranquil copper
god he throw me off hard witht hat one, my b
tranquil copper
(although always take fextra with a grain of salt)
also yeah
always test yourself if you dont have a rough idea of where fextra got the info from
some of it is intuitive enough, others aren't
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gonna see about being less spammy with my casts
try to get better opportunities for all lightning bolts to connect
tranquil copper
o7
im gonna aim to get 2 rot pots off
because the rot is super free for phase 1
and makes us use less flasks
also spear was definitely the play for a lot of this just need to get more used to its guard counter
signs down
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yeah spear seems to be doing good work @tranquil copper
tranquil copper
he phase transitioned and immediately after I got hit by the 2nd sword he was swinging when he entered
despite him teleporting to mid
💀
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I gotta learn to dodge that combo
vivid spire
Lmao
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we're burning through phase 1 pretty efficiently on a lot of these runs
vivid spire
The invader in Belarut was easy with black flame milady
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I've found it's better to look at who the boss is looking at
tranquil copper
i cant tell who or what they're aiming for because 4/5 of them go just random targeting the ground
tranquil copper
I've found it's better to look at who the boss is looking at
I cant see that lmao
also he sometimes 180s, he'll send the clones at one then send himself at the other