Elden Ring (DLC hype room)

[vivid spire]

My first playthrough of ER took me an entire year

[vestal night]

I have been pretty surprised at how open stuff is

[tranquil copper]

ima be real, you are very much NOT behind atm

you're in the final like

1/5th of the DLC rn

[vestal night]

from what I've seen, you can access almost the whole map without any main bosses

[tranquil copper]

boss/progression wise

[vivid spire]

Like I have this fucking hunger to figure out who ||Trina|| is

But the Knight just said

No

[tranquil copper]

you're way way WAY back as far as scadu blessing goes for most of these places

[vivid spire]

Some of these bosses feel like solid walls

[vivid spire]

Oh

[tranquil copper]

yeah

[vivid spire]

I guess I should explore..

[tranquil copper]

the knight for example was technically feasible on +12 for me

[vivid spire]

I’ll look at a scadu guide

[tranquil copper]

romina I did on +14, etc.

[vivid spire]

I’m not bothered to explore anymore I did that a lot

[tranquil copper]

thats fair

there's a lot of stuff that's juuuust out of reach but there's a lot more just. Empty space

[mellow silo]

Found ||new crucible knight||

[tranquil copper]

I'd recommend making sure that you've cleaned out the very first area and scadu-altus first, then checking out jagged peak and ||charo's grave|| (last one spoilered because its one that people may not have seen so far, lot of ppl ik missed it by accident)

[vivid spire]

WHAT

I go from a site of grace

Shrimp fuckers immediately spam pest threads

Die

Uuugh

[tranquil copper]

also if you can get through it, then C.G. has like

5 scadutree fragments behind him

[vivid spire]

Idk who that is and will assume it’s either tucked away or important

[tranquil copper]

he has bugged hitboxes atm on one of his moves so I would strongly recommend you bring a 100 phys block shield with the Barricade Shield AoW

[vivid spire]

I don’t know how to get to the peak

I can see it

But I have no clue

[tranquil copper]

oh this I can help with, 2s!

[vivid spire]

Spoilers welcome because my enjoyment is waning

[tranquil copper]

you have like 3 bits of the map you can go to if you go that way too

[vivid spire]

Hmm ok

Are they later game ines

Here’s my current map

[tranquil copper]

take this route here to get towards the peak - you've already started exploring near some of ||charos' grave|| but that areas only accessible from the peak side afaik

there's a ||fork in the road|| when you're otw to peak, the ||bridge path|| leads to the peak, while the other leads to ||charo's|| - to get further down the other you need to ||climb over the big dead dragon to the red flower fields behind it - its not very far up its just hidden by the wings and stuff||

there's no boss-locked scadutree fragments on the peak btw

so don't feel obligated to kill the stuff there right this second - I'd recommend doing it at some point but I also found them quite frustrating (admittedly only +8 blessing at the time)

hope that helps

[dusty kraken]

I have scadu blessing +7 and think I wandered too far for it. XD

The ||Putricient Knight|| is whooping my ass.

[tranquil copper]

yeaaaah its super easy to do that

[tranquil copper]

oh yeah no jeeze like I mentioned above it was technically feasible on +12 for me

[dusty kraken]

I can get him down to half!

[stone cove]

It works best with Quality/Heavy it seems by base, but it's stronk

[tranquil copper]

hell yeah! Is there anything you want advice on to potentially get the other half?

[vivid spire]

Got another fragment

And the star sword

[mellow silo]

Fire Knight Greatsword?

[tranquil copper]

ooh mind telling me where you got that? I want to pick it up this run through because I really liked the moveset

[kind garden]

Where @

[dusty kraken]

How do I get like 8 more flasks 😛

[mellow silo]

You can farm it off a guy through the elevator from Specimen Storage First Floor

[tranquil copper]

already max flasked or? (Like genuine question or "bleh damage")

[mellow silo]

It's a collosal weapon with fire damage and faith scaling. Like a Zweihander but cool

[dusty kraken]

More seriously: I have his patterns mostly worked out it's just I can't sustain the 'oops, didn't quite dodge that one fast enough, that was 2/3s of my health'. XD

[tranquil copper]

fairnuff o7

[dusty kraken]

I get taken out in bits and pieces, not from a specific move.

[vivid spire]

||Cerulean Coast||, about Here. Kill a Demi Human Queen.

[tranquil copper]

was mainly asking because I very much didn't understand the ||tar attack that leads to magical fire|| it does, and that was taking way too much hp off me. The second I understood it fight was ggs

[tranquil copper]

ty 🙏

[vestal night]

oh yeah I found that one

[dusty kraken]

The funniest fight I had was wandering into ||Yoda|| at only +1 Blessing.

[vestal night]

I also did that lmao

[tranquil copper]

mood I was +2 when it happened but we had the same experience

[vestal night]

I still continue my quest to find some sorceries I can use

the only ones I did find so far are Fth/Int necro

[tranquil copper]

I uh. I have bad news :(

[dusty kraken]

I found a pretty cool glintblade one in the castle

[stone cove]

No, there's a bunc h that are just Int sorceries

[vestal night]

I have mostly avoided the legacy dungeons for now

wouldn't be surprised if there's some in Ensis

and presumably the boss there has one as her remembrance

[stone cove]

There are 5 that require faith, but they all fit with the theme of things

[vivid spire]

I was gonna follow the path straight

But I saw a pillar

Fuck it let’s explore

[tropic stream]

Boss spoilers...

||RELLANA|| IS FUCKING DEAD

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[tranquil copper]

its the other part of why I stopped being an int caster - there's a total of 14 sorceries in the dlc to the 28 incantations. Of them I can see maybe 3-5 being usable for pve and the rest either having a use in pvp or just not being practical to use; either for overworld stuff or specific boss setups

there's 2 specifically that are pretty cool of the 3-5 but yeah

[vestal night]

until then I will just continue to Rock Sling and Moonveil

[tranquil copper]

mood I was using moonveil primarily with some glintstone arcs/great shards at the start but swapped to a quality build at and after ||rellana|| before ending on a primarily Str/Vig build at final boss

[vestal night]

I may respec for ||Rellana's swords|| not sure yet

[tranquil copper]

and by quality I mean like. 20 30 40 20 that slowly turned into 30 40 40 40 by the time I finished the dlc

[vestal night]

they do seem cool at least

[tranquil copper]

they're super worth it

[umbral portal]

Remember: Scadutree Fragments make things a lot easier

[tranquil copper]

especially with the twinblade talisman/its upgrade from base game

[umbral portal]

and there's 20 levels worth of them across the bat

[vestal night]

is scadu 20 a cap, or is there just enough shards to reach that?

[tranquil copper]

20s the cap as far as im aware rn

[umbral portal]

the latter

but yeah

[tranquil copper]

oh huh

[vivid spire]

Oh cool

[vestal night]

is there more fragments than you need for 20 as well then?

[tranquil copper]

so if you ng+1 you can go beyond 20?

[vivid spire]

Dragon Communion statues

[umbral portal]

It's both

20 is the cap and you can only get enough to just reach 20

[tranquil copper]

thats the path, keep on goin

ahhk

[umbral portal]

There aren't an "excessive amount" laying around

[tranquil copper]

so I was right in that I was basically capped when I finished on 18, and that while I can hit 20 on this cycle I wont be able to get more

[vestal night]

okay good to know

I'm at 10 rn I think

and I've mostly just been roaming around the map

[stone cove]

Certainly at about ten i havent felt like things are too bad

and when i have hit damage walls (BEARS)

just switching up my talismans and drinking Opaline Hardtear

has bewen enough to turn two shot in to ten shot

Because dragoncrest greatshield remains Very Silly

[umbral portal]

What's everyone's favorite weapon so far?

I'm gonna guess Renalla's Twinblades is pretty high up there but I'm curious

[tranquil copper]

||Rellana's swords and Dane's Footwork||

[vestal night]

my talismans are fully dedicated to sorcery for now
Radagon Icon, both of the Graven school talismans, and also the FP regen one for convenience rn

[mellow silo]

I've only ran the Fire Knight Greatsword so far, so I suppose that

[tranquil copper]

the latter of these I only found my love for after progressing to NG+ and trying it out outside of the DLC

and it made me very much want to go through the entire main game + DLC again with specifically that and record fights with it because it has massive cinematic potential

[mellow silo]

It's Zweihander but fancy, faith, and fire

[stone cove]

I really love the Backhand Blades and Milady

Beast Claws are very cool too, but i'm reserving them for Occult character

[tranquil copper]

honestly though - favourite thing from the entire dlc is ||the deflecting hardtear||. It's just

[vestal night]

kinda wish they'd made that one a talisman instead of tied to flask

[stone cove]

Agree on that

[tranquil copper]

completely fair yeah

[stone cove]

Oh, cool thing- ya';ll know the Greatsword of Solitude?

[tranquil copper]

the duration isn't bad on it but I wish I just had it

[stone cove]

Go look at it's Guard Boost and Phy Res stats

[tranquil copper]

lmao its another hammer situation isnt it

[stone cove]

it's as good if not better than multiple medium shields.

[tranquil copper]

lmao its another hammer situation yeah

[stone cove]

Hammer situation?

[tranquil copper]

base game weapon

[stone cove]

I mean this seems to have been aninteitonal design choice

[mellow silo]

Dragonslayer...

[stone cove]

Oh, neat, i didnt actually know that about giant crusher.

[tranquil copper]

yeah no some of the colossal weapons just have gorked negation stats on them

[stone cove]

I think it's a fiarly itneitonal choice to go with guard counters being a thing

and i think that's quite cool, honestly

[tranquil copper]

the Greatsword (guts reference one) and some others are in a similar situation

[old brook]

I bet I could block a fireball with that hammer

[tranquil copper]

ye its p cool

[mellow silo]

Welp. Met Romina

[tranquil copper]

idr the exact combo but there was this pvp combo people were using that steamrolled people for a while until A) a counter was found and B) it got nerfed

might've been prelates charge idr

[old brook]

I do remember a prelates era

[stone cove]

Also there's a greatsword that fires projectils on heavy attack now

[tranquil copper]

oh a 2nd one?

[real shadow]

Yeah it's the lizard one

[old brook]

Isn't that what Solitude does

[tranquil copper]

huh so there's 3 now including the one from doing ranni's quest in base game

[vivid spire]

I went into the catacombs

Honestly wtf

[old brook]

Also if folks are looking for Int ||Cerulean Coast|| has a few toys

[vivid spire]

||Dragon Man beat me||

[stone cove]

Yes, but it's not a beam or anything, it's literally you fire a bullet from it basically

[vivid spire]

A fucking invader boss

[tranquil copper]

tbf he's got some good stats on him

[stone cove]

Beat him back!

[real shadow]

The Lizard one procs status builds with the heavy R2 which is very funny in the abstract.

[stone cove]

Give him a good stabby stabby!

[mellow silo]

Dragon Man doesn't fuck around, for what he is

[tranquil copper]

oh the imp one! They nearly got me with that in the catacombs

[stone cove]

ASctually criminal you cant get the imp Pogo though

[old brook]

Show no fear! Embrace dragon man with violence

[vivid spire]

5 playthroughs
FINAL OPPONENT
Invader boss

[nova smelt]

Been running Palm Blast and destroying every last thing in the DLC

I'm Not Gonna Sugarcoat It

[mellow silo]

Best strategy for Dragon Man is just to bring a nice heavy weapon, summon mimic, and just stunlock him into oblivion

[real shadow]

That's what I did.

[tranquil copper]

oh btw

[real shadow]

He can't do shit when The Twins are face-smashing them with an axe.

[vivid spire]

I can’t summon for some reason

For a lot of these bosses I legit cannot summon at all

[mellow silo]

Not even mimic?

[vivid spire]

No

[tranquil copper]

@vivid spire at ||the top of that dungeon there's a magma wyrm that drops an ancient dragon stone and a dragon heart||

[vivid spire]

It only works like

[mellow silo]

[vivid spire]

Every other death

[old brook]

Dragon Man is easier to beat if you recognize the moveset

[vestal night]

oh?

[tranquil copper]

you might need to walk further into the arena for the game to recognise you can summon

I had that happen a few times

[vestal night]

is it in the hole, or did I just miss it?

[old brook]

Yeah found a few weapons on the West coast, I haven't accessed Big Hole yet

[vestal night]

ah, yeah I think I got the weapons
haven't looked at them too closely yet though

[mellow silo]

Big Hole is a scary ass place

But also extremely interesting lore wise

[vestal night]

couldn't get into the hole yet because of plot barrier

[old brook]

I like how many zones seem to have Big Hole of some variety

Just 'what do you mean there's more level'

[vestal night]

strangely common yeah lmao

[mellow silo]

||go to black keep, that'll break the seal||

[vivid spire]

Oh got him

It’s a reskinned mimic lol

[tranquil copper]

you can also go to ||bonny village|| and cross the bridge to the East

[vivid spire]

But yeah

I can’t summon constantly

[vestal night]

yeah I did get that bit

[tranquil copper]

the game assumes the same flag has been tripped and does it anyway (I had a real wtf in vc when that happened to me after ppl said it was happening where you mentioned it)

[vestal night]

figured that would do it

[tropic stream]

gear spoilers

This fit goes hard tbh

[tranquil copper]

so true

[vestal night]

it is pretty funny that I have entirely circumvented Castle Ensis, by just wandering about

[tranquil copper]

lmao

[tropic stream]

I did too but I found out Ensis is where the theurge spellsword boss was and proceeded to slam my face against it till said boss died

[vestal night]

||I got into Scadu Altus via the spirit well at the fort, which seems to be some kind of back entrance||

[old brook]

See I spent a long time trying to do this and begrudglingly mounted a siege

[umbral portal]

I felt.like I skipped a significant amount if stuff by accident when I ||stumbled into the Shadow Castle after only doing the Lion and Renalla||

[tropic stream]

lmao saaaaame

[old brook]

Also I've found exactly one instance of an un-active Spirit Spring

[vestal night]

I've found two so far

[tranquil copper]

there's 3 that im aware of but may be more

[vestal night]

didn't find the stones for the second though

[old brook]

I spent so much time looking at random rocks

[tropic stream]

I have found tres

[old brook]

Going 'is that what a spirit spring looks like'

[vivid spire]

Oh shit

That’s gorgeous

[vestal night]

||mostly got chased off by the ghostflame dragon in the area for now||

[vivid spire]

The peak is amazing

[tranquil copper]

yee!

[vestal night]

don't like fighting dragons, they are pretty annoying

[tranquil copper]

the view from the top is great

[old brook]

i have like ten screenshots of just vistas

also love fighting dragons, this is the most dragon-y they've been in a Soulsbourne, all you need is a horse

[vestal night]

I'll also need to go back and hunt down all those wicker giants eventually

[old brook]

now Wicker Giants are cursed, those things have schmovement

[frozen olive]

(Final boss spoilers)||Still not over the fact that Miquella is also a brotherfucker and used fucking Mohg's body to repair Radahns so Radahn could become his fucking consort||

[vestal night]

||the ghostflame dragons and the giants are the world bosses giving me the most trouble so far||

[old brook]

||Ghostflame||'s dumb Slappy Wing Sweep Move is my only qualm

It just looks so silly

Maybe supposed to be a sort of 'they don't need to move normally' type thing

[frozen olive]

(More final boss spoilers)||What the fuck is WRONG with the royal family, we thought Mohg was the fucked up one and now Miquella pulled the uno reverse card and did an FMA fusion on two of his brothers to make himself an undead consort||

[tranquil copper]

related ||how fucking strong was radahn then and how hard did he job the fight vs malenia to end up with a draw after she dropped a continent sized rot bomb on him||

[vivid spire]

I just found one fragment so far

But apparently there’s more

[tranquil copper]

(also related) like ||the only things miquella does in that boss fight are the light pillars and the grab. When you get clone-slammed by radahn that's him moving faster than light per the sword you can get from the rememberance||

[frozen olive]

(Continued)||Also Miquella is missing fucking ONE arm, is that the fucking arm he discarded in that one place, and if so, WHY THE FUCK DID HE JUST LEAVE ONE???||

[umbral portal]

||Supposedly this isn't even Peak Radahn, this is Radahn before he mastered Gravity Magic||

[vivid spire]

OH FUCK

[tranquil copper]

||yeah lmao its so fucked up||

[vivid spire]

OH FUCK

BIG

||BAYLE||

[tranquil copper]

lmao

correct response

[old brook]

You got up there quick

[tranquil copper]

I'd recommend going and getting ||igon's|| quest a bit further ||he's really helpful for that fight||

[umbral portal]

||Mohg being the victim is not what I expected but||

[tranquil copper]

you can skip all the dragon bosses on the way if you want - idk if they did but I did to see what was at the top. It wasn't worth it to me at the time

[umbral portal]

||Miquella is basically Griffith after all||

[frozen olive]

(Final boss spoilers)||Radahn is an absolute fucking beast it's so fucked up. I can barely even begin to survive phase 2 and my weapons do no damage, and he has the fucking shadow clones and Miquella AoE||

[old brook]

Yeah I gave ||Senessax and her Giant Puddle|| a pass for now

[tranquil copper]

those ||aren't shadow clones. Those are him moving really fucking fast||

[frozen olive]

||that's infinitely worse||

[tranquil copper]

||absolutely lmao||

[umbral portal]

||Now you know how he fought a God-Malenia to a draw||

[frozen olive]

||Cause you know who else does that move? Malenia, but she has actual rot clones doing it for her i think||

||Also Consort Radahn makes Malenia look like a fucking joke||

[tranquil copper]

spoilers for the WA from one of the final boss rememberance transmutes on this but related to this

[tranquil copper]

yes to both of those lmao

[umbral portal]

||Alsp again, this isn't Peak Radahn; this is Radahn before he mastered Gravity Magic. Peak Radahn must have been scary||

[tranquil copper]

||if Peak Radahn did not have to literally perform the duty of Atlas he would have taken the world by storm||

[vivid spire]

Are the fragments after the boss

[tranquil copper]

||and he STILL forced a draw||

[frozen olive]

||HE HELD THE FUCKING NIGHT SKY IN PLACE WE BEEN KNOWING THAT MAN WAS NOT TO BE FUCKED WITH||

[vivid spire]

Because I only got one

[tranquil copper]

if you mean ||Bayle|| no

[umbral portal]

https://tenor.com/view/starscourge-radahn-gif-25528014

[tranquil copper]

there's more in ||charos grave|| which I mentioned how to get to above - instead of going ||to the path that makes you cross a bridge|| go off to ||the right, and past the dragon communion altar||

[vivid spire]

||Igor is gone||

[frozen olive]

||Bro literally was pausing destiny by using gravity magic to HOLD THE STARS STILL and he did it with 100% uptime even as a mindless rotted cannibal||

[old brook]

A'ight I gotta get outta this channel now, everyone's progressed too far

o7

[frozen olive]

||I genuinely have a hard time imagining anyone bwing stronger than him, it's insane||

[tranquil copper]

check where ||the two duelling dragons are|| after killing them

[umbral portal]

||there's also the implication in the DLC that this isn't a fantasy realm. According to Ymir the world of Elden Ring is a "standard" planet, orbited by a single moon. Which has uh, implications for Radahn||

[frozen olive]

||Like what the FUCK was anyone else going to do about THAT||

[modest trellis]

||"somewhere a great rune has shattered and so has a powerful charm" So was that charm something that I had and was disabled or was that the start of a little side quest to assemble the charm||

[frozen olive]

||neither||

||wrong kind of charm||

[modest trellis]

Fun

[tropic stream]

has very suddenly and awkwardly realized that me beating ||Rellana means I just murdered my Aunt-in-law|| (boss spoilers)

[mellow silo]

Talk to leda

[umbral portal]

||Also supposedly he did it not to stimmy Ranni, but to protect her from being used by the Two Fingers (due to her being an Empyrean and whatnot)||

[tropic stream]

which fit is superior (dlc item spoilers)

[umbral portal]

I like the former

[frozen olive]

||Prime Radahn would have won the war if Malenia hadn't hit him with the rot kill shot, there's no fucking way anyone else could have stopped this man, not even Morgott and his impeccable Leyendell defense||

[umbral portal]

||Radahn is basically Guts to Miquella's Griffith||

[tranquil copper]

former, the latter has too big a hat and looks off to me

[vivid spire]

Ohh

Also

[tropic stream]

Aww

[vivid spire]

Placi mention

[tropic stream]

I like big hat

It also gives me more magic juice lmao

[frozen olive]

||Still wild that Miquella's master plan is what fucking Mohg was doing||

[tranquil copper]

yee, from ||church lady right||?

[frozen olive]

||Cannot say i expected that in the slightest||

[tranquil copper]

there's big hat and then there's whatever the preceptors wear which looks off

[umbral portal]

||Anyways this DLC just reinforces the idea that Radahn is Him, and I support that||

[vivid spire]

Yew

Hmmm

Are the dragon incants good this time around

[tranquil copper]

oh try the navy hood though @tropic stream the cloak from it works with that armor set quite nicely

[frozen olive]

||I genuinely think Malenia blooming the Scarlet Aeonia on him was the ONLY possible way he could have lost against anyone at this point||

[vestal night]

Navy Hood and Carian Knight has been my fit for almost the whole game

[tropic stream]

Oh damn

You were not lyin

[frozen olive]

||With the just absurd update to his strength and feats that the DLC added i just can't imagine anyone, even Marika/Radagon who are literally god, beating him||

[tropic stream]

My fit's been Carian plus Preceptor hat

Cuz I'm more of a mage-forward battlemage

[umbral portal]

||He took after his idol, Godfrey||

[frozen olive]

I'm using the Navy hood with it

[tropic stream]

but now I have rellana

[frozen olive]

The Navy hood and Rennala's gloves

Which works really well actually

[tropic stream]

dlc item spoilers

It do work real nice

Honestly, hold on

[frozen olive]

Twinsies

[tropic stream]

reminds me of these fuckers lmao

From oblivion

[vestal night]

lmaoooo

[tropic stream]

Do you see it?

I'm not crazy, right?

[frozen olive]

||Truly, man i wanna know how fucked Godfrey must have been at his peak to inspire Radahn to become such a monster||

[mellow silo]

I don't think you want what you think you want here...

[tropic stream]

Zorro One Piece, but make her an angry trans battlemage

[umbral portal]

Anyways my Brother, who usually plays Fortnite and R6S, is playing the DLC in the other room and I can hear him yelling

[frozen olive]

||coping a bit cause Godfrey is my favourite Elden Ring character and i want to imagine him being the strongest but i do feel like Radahn probably would have beat him in a fight||

[umbral portal]

Which is funny to me

[mellow silo]

Lmao

The struggle is real

[umbral portal]

In all fairness he beat Elden Ring twice before

So he isn't a newbie to this stuff

[frozen olive]

also something i am thinking about now again

[vivid spire]

I feel FUCKING POWERFUL

[frozen olive]

(boss spoiler)||Gaius, the albinauric hog rider, who was the senior student of the alabaster lords who taught Radahn, that's some fucking COOL lore||

[vivid spire]

HOLY SHIT I FEEL POWERFUL

[frozen olive]

i LOVE the fact that ||only his leg armor mentions him being an Albinauric||

||and you find it by beating an Albinauric archer riding a world, which is a very fucking weird thing to see there until you learn that he was in fact an Albinauric himself||

that's such insanely good lore

they cooked

[umbral portal]

FROM did well with this DLC

[tranquil copper]

hell yea!

[frozen olive]

they really fucking did

honestly

[umbral portal]

||Have you found Shaman Village yet?||

[frozen olive]

it met my expectations

[tranquil copper]

that's potentially ||his wife or daughter from the item descriptions - as it mentions a feminine form of gaius? I'm honestly not sure if I'm reading too far into it or not||

[frozen olive]

(endgame spoilers)||i've explored basically the entire map, the only thing i have left is to fight Consort Radahn||

[mellow silo]

Goddamn how did you go so fast

[umbral portal]

||I also really like the idea of the Crucible effectively being the "native" Outer God to the planet, which all others (including the Greater Will) are aliens to. It also explains why they wanna stamp out the Crucible, which by extent explains the Crusade to the Lands of Shadow||

[frozen olive]

||i assume by Shamn village you mean Marika's home town, which may be my favourite location in the entire DLC||

[umbral portal]

Yeah

That place

[frozen olive]

it's way too cool

and significant

and the vibes are just off the charts

[umbral portal]

||It's somewhat darker when you remember that the Shamans were basically used to create the Living Jars||

[frozen olive]

||I think it's not necessarily the like, coolest thing ever but it's so fucking special and interesting and significant i can't help but love it||

[umbral portal]

||So Marika has another Motive to essentially burn the Lands of Shadow to ash||

[frozen olive]

||especially with the like, calming and melancholy harp strums that play when you are there, and the incantation and braid you can find||

[umbral portal]

||The same harps from the Elden Beast, mind you||

[frozen olive]

||The braid and incantation both hinting at a tragedy occuring in her home and her leaving some kind of unheard prayer there and never returning||

it's MASTERFULLY done

[umbral portal]

Yep!

[frozen olive]

genuinely insanely cooked lore

godly writing

[umbral portal]

||Ir also makes sense why there's two Tree Sentinals there, with personal blessings from Marika||

[vivid spire]

I did can’t find any

[umbral portal]

||She probably personally sent them to guard her old home||

[tranquil copper]

||his dialogues on the screenshot you sent, in the mouth of the cave that leads up to the ancient dragon he should be there - take a quick sit at a site of grace if he isn't||

[frozen olive]

||that and because there is a kind of erdtree sapling/illusion she left there||

||the Tree sentinels are there to guard it and her home||

[umbral portal]

Yeah, makes sense

[tranquil copper]

you should ||be given his finger which lets you summon him inside bayles arena later and he's generally just really useful because he doesnt increase the scaling and can't die||

[vivid spire]

He is

It leads to a spiritspring

[frozen olive]

||Gaius armor mentions somebody named Gaea, who i DESPERATELY want to know more about||

||i suppose it could just be another writing of Gaius but it reads to me at least like a different character||

[grave plinth]

||The implication being that both Miquella and Malenia underestimated Radahn and Malenia ended up throwing a massive wrench into Miquella's plans||

[tranquil copper]

yeah ||his quests specifically for helping with bayle - see it through to the end and you'll get some other goodies. If you have the grace after the ancient dragon (you can run through their boss room without killing them) then you can just go there, keep climbing to reach bayle proper||

[tranquil copper]

||ok yeah so im not misremembering then - I'm pretty sure that the albinauric you kill to get the boots is said Gaea then just because of the cards the albinaurics were dealt. Again could absolutely be wrong tho||

[vivid spire]

I’m confused where the cave is

[frozen olive]

||She certainly fucking payed the price for it, left to guard an empty tree womb and slumber in her rot until she would be awoken once more to die||

[vivid spire]

Do I go to the altar of communion

And start from there

[frozen olive]

||the lack of any kind of gravity magic suggests otherwise||

[tranquil copper]

if you're talking about the one that leads ||up to bayle|| then where you ||fought the duelling dragons immediately after there's a cave with igon in it, its a straight shot up the mountain from there - the spirit springs lead straight to the ancient dragon I mentioned||

[tranquil copper]

that's fair honestly I didn't consider that

[frozen olive]

||"Gaius was the most senior disciple of the same Alabaster Lord who taught Radahn and Gaea gravitational technique"||

[vivid spire]

Ohh I see

[tranquil copper]

inb4 hinting ||at another boss for a 2nd dlc and they're being smug about it||

[tranquil copper]

yee

[vivid spire]

I meant the one with the scadutree frafments

[frozen olive]

but yeah

[tranquil copper]

ah, then thats past the ||dragon communion|| place yes

[frozen olive]

the fucking lore that has been in this DLC is so masterfully written

it's crazy

[mellow silo]

Don't give me hope...

[tranquil copper]

||should be a lot of red fields and a nameplate saying Charo's Hidden Grave||

[tranquil copper]

I need another boss like the final one here

[frozen olive]

seriously blew all my expectations out of the water

[tranquil copper]

it was painful to learn but so so satisfying to beat it

[frozen olive]

i still haven't beat the final boss

got my ass handed to me and thrown out like yesterdays trash

[tranquil copper]

radagon is nowhere near as satisfying, the only boss I can even compare satisfaction wise even if it doesn't compare at all difficulty wise is Nameless King

[tranquil copper]

oh no that happens a lot

[frozen olive]

Nameless King is way too easy to be compared to this

at least compare it to Gael

[tranquil copper]

I spent 4 hours straight just grinding at it, I very highly recommend you learn phase 1 as best you can because it helps a LOT for what happens in phase 2

[frozen olive]

Gael is too peak to not be referenced

[tranquil copper]

difficulty wise it doesn't compare, Gael was nowhere near as satisfying as King for me tho

[frozen olive]

especially because of this

NK was kind of a loser fight imo

[tranquil copper]

like I steamrolled gael

[frozen olive]

the only reason he is hard is because his stupid bird fucks the camera royally

[twilit path]

I don't know if this is lore accurate but saw this today and chuckled ||https://x.com/hausofdecline/status/1803064053130006604||

[tranquil copper]

it felt really fair and on even footing, and then I learned you could parry some moves and it just became exquisite

[frozen olive]

i mean

it is

[mellow silo]

Truly the grrm game of all time

[frozen olive]

||Marika and Radagon had kids and they are the same person||

[tranquil copper]

and this is how I felt with final boss - not because of parries (if you can parry any of that I want to know immediately because I need to begin learning properly for that) but because of the ||deflection hardtear||

[frozen olive]

||Marika is Radagon and Radagon is Marika, and yet they fucked and produced children so||

[royal raptor]

why is this expansion so fucking stingy with runes

[frozen olive]

i would call massive bullshit on being able to parry anything the final boss does

that would be stupid

[tranquil copper]

pushing harder for the expansion scaling system most likely

its fucked up how few runes bosses give tho yea

final boss gives equivalent runes to base game mohg lmao

[old brook]

They must keep the Mohgwyn Frog Farm running

[royal raptor]

if i'm going to get my arse kicked harder than any mainline boss then you should at least let me level my vig up a bit, christ

[frozen olive]

i don't do parrying at all so it was diff for me i guess

all about the roll timings

and i got that shit down to a fine art with Gael

[mellow silo]

You should know by now, Vig doesn't matter lol

[frozen olive]

Gael is still probably my favourite boss in any videogame ever

[mellow silo]

You're getting three shot regardless

[tranquil copper]

gael wasn't as much of a struggle for me to learn as king phase 2, the parries was on complete accident because someone mentioned it and I got hooked

[frozen olive]

so far nothing has come close

[old brook]

NK just has unrivalled aura during the scene transition

[tranquil copper]

also it really does ime - if I didn't have 50/60 vig I would've been a pancake in several fights

[royal raptor]

i feel like if i can get another 20 levels or so i should go from being two shot to three shot and that is a lot

[tranquil copper]

was very glad I respecced from the 40 vig I had end of base game into a 50 vig

[frozen olive]

NK is cool for a guy whos house we invade and start attacking

but Gael is just different

the fight, the music, the lore

it goes too hard for anything to top it for me

[old brook]

I feel like Gael gets a bit of extra sauce just from yknow

[tranquil copper]

(I should also mention I generally suck at parrying - still cant do it with pontiff or most general enemies as an example; but I will go out of my way to learn boss parries for the most part if it feels satisfying)

[old brook]

Being The Last Fight

they had to go hard

[royal raptor]

i think i might just be having a shitty time because i'm doing caster things and have crap defence in general

[mellow silo]

One day I'll beat Messmer...

[old brook]

Things two-shot everyone, 75 vigor, get ate, 40 vigor, get ate, don't sweat it too hard

[frozen olive]

Gaels lore is also just cooler than anything else

NK gets a demerit on that one because we don't really know as much about him

[old brook]

That's the point

He's the Nameless King

he's abandoned that

[royal raptor]

i mean that being the case i probably don't want to play any more

[mellow silo]

It's probably just my insistence that I beat the boss as a summon before challenging it for real that's holding me back

[tranquil copper]

bit of both streets, abandoned it and been abandoned by it

[frozen olive]

it may be the point but it doesn't stop Gael from being way cooler

[old brook]

idk why it's a competition

but again yeah the Last Boss of the Last DLC is gonna get proper scene

[tranquil copper]

also that very much hasn't been my exp - at 50 vig if you don't let your scadutree blessing fall ridiculously far behind things range from 2 to 4 shot depending on attack. Most of the 2 shots are either bugged or extremely telegraphed

if I didn't have 60 vig final boss wouldn't have been doable at 18 scadu

because there are multiple points where I was on the last sliver of hp so any lower vig and I would've just. Died before those points

[frozen olive]

after having seen what Shadow of the Erdtree had in store? Fucking absolutely

i think my favourite visual of the dlc so far has just been (last boss spoilers)||Miquellas hair forming a cape for Mohgified Radahn||

[tranquil copper]

imo, from rushing it down in 25h I'd recommend taking it slow and exploring to up the scadutree blessing before taking on bosses. It'll also generally help with exploring etc.
Some enemies are Just Bullshit (the ||hornsent knights for example, or messmer's flame soldiers|| but most are quite reasonable to fight

[vivid spire]

Oh that’s gorgeous

[frozen olive]

it also just ||harkens back to my 2nd/3rd favourite boss in ds3, Lothric and Lorian||

[tranquil copper]

first area I'd rec +3 to +4 before you go poking around, +2 is quite doable but those other two are comfier, when you try making the jump through to the "intended" mid point its worth having around +6 imo - it worked out on +4 for me but it could've been comfier, etc.

[frozen olive]

(final boss spoilers)||the Miquella hair cape is just really fucking cool||

[tranquil copper]

I was more reminded of ||serosh and godfrey||

[frozen olive]

||oh yeah same, that's also DEFINITELY something that's evoking||

||ESPECIALLY since Radahn was a well known Godfrey stan||

[old brook]

Wing Stance attacks do so much poise damage, waddahell

[frozen olive]

||poor guy didn't even get to rest in peace and instead got a serosh fascimile in the form of his brother who wants to marry him||

i gotta say the ||Miquella grab that does zero damage but puts a charm on you would be much fucking cooler if i could live long enough for it to be at all significant||

||i've seen it once so far||

[tranquil copper]

dont worry, sometimes they just ||choose violence and go for the throat with a 2nd one immediately after doing an orbital laser when they'd normally do sword stuff||

[frozen olive]

||also, fun interaction, since it's a charm, Miquella's great rune removes it! When i saw it during the fight i immediately went into my inventory to activate the rune and it actually worked which was extremely cool||

[tranquil copper]

||this is very important for reasons :)||

[frozen olive]

||didn't end up mattering cause i died almost immediately after but still||

[frail ferry]

wow midra was kinda easy

[tranquil copper]

yeaaah

[frail ferry]

but slow and steady bosses are my favorite

[frozen olive]

it's going to be a while before i can beat ||Consort Radahn anyway||

it's too difficult of a fight for me to finish in one sitting

especially with my attacks doing basically no damage

i think i'm actually going to need to go and find more shadow tree blessing materials and just max out all of that

do some level farming to get my stats up a bit

[tranquil copper]

he's doable on 18 but a bit of a struggle

most of it comes down to resistances and what shield you bring though

[frozen olive]

i am not at 18 i don't think

also i bring no shield

[tranquil copper]

yoooou will need one

[vivid spire]

I can’t find the hippo

[tranquil copper]

trust me on that

[frozen olive]

no

[vivid spire]

At ||Charos||

[tranquil copper]

no really I'm not joking

haha

[frozen olive]

i don't think i will

[tranquil copper]

aight, gl with the coin toss that you want the shield for

only other way I can see to deal with it is bloodhound step for distance

[vivid spire]

Where ssdutree fragments

[frozen olive]

never used a shield in a fromsoft game

i don't have space for it anyway

my hands are occupied

might be able to slot it in my off hand to switch with my seal i guess

[tranquil copper]

||1 on the hippo you mentioned, 1 on a demihuman at the back of the place p sure, relatively lighter than I remembered on frags honestly?||

[frozen olive]

my friend beat the fight without a shield so it should be doable

[vivid spire]

||Charos is kinda empty||

Found the mariner

[old brook]

Wait weren't you just in dragon town

I thought that only lead to more dragon town

[frozen olive]

honestly i wouldn't even know what move i need the shield for

[tranquil copper]

how many attempts? Because there's a specific attack unique to phase 2 that is genuinely a coin toss on if you can dodge it via booking it. Maybe frame drops on it were making it harder for me to roll it but I think it lasts longer than the roll iframes

[tranquil copper]

you'll know it when you see it. Trust.

[tranquil copper]

if you go over ||the big dragon corpse|| there's a way into ||charo's||

[old brook]

gahd dammit I wandered all over that going 'why doesn't this lead anywhere, weird'

[tranquil copper]

also yeah its... ||a fair bit emptier than I remember checking the online maps||.

[frozen olive]

i think he said like 20 attempts?

[tranquil copper]

paissasquint

[frozen olive]

he said he only had two attempts that got him even close to winning, one early on and his final one

[tranquil copper]

ok yeah that makes more sense

depending on what patterns you get the win is either hard won or very very very easy

[old brook]

There's always the Early Run that nearly beats the boss

And then you spend 18 hours trying to replicate that

[mellow silo]

Getting to phase two pretty frequently now, as long as host doesn't die early

[frozen olive]

the only move i can thing of is ||the one where he flies up in phase 2 and just explodes everything and it starts to rain light arrow, but i don't see how a shield would help against that||

[tranquil copper]

I think the general thing that people need to take away from it is that if the boss is looking at you Stop Doing Anything Except Trying To Survive

[tranquil copper]

||shield can block it, its mixed physical/holy damage so having a Magic or Holy infused greatshield works wonders||

[mellow silo]

Once I've beaten Messmer as a summon, surely it'll be easy to kill him for real

[frozen olive]

||that's genuinely fucking surprising considering how insane the explosion is and the fact that it does so much damage||

[tranquil copper]

there's 1 attack that I THINK is unblockable which is ||radahn's starfall, But Improved - the one where he jumps real high in his normal fight||. I've been TOLD its blockable but I tried and it very much didn't work

[frail ferry]

wow im on a roll

||finger milf|| down

[tranquil copper]

though that might just be ||it having potentially four damage types, because he uses a mix of Holy Physical Magic and Lightning depending on other moves so it wouldn't surprise me if that one used all 4 at once in large amounts||

[frozen olive]

||i would never in a million years even try to block it with a shield without you telling me it works because it looks completely unblockable||

[vivid spire]

||THIOLLER HAS A LOVE POTION||

[tranquil copper]

completely fair, I only knew because someone else said "bring a shield" and I saw what was happening and prayed it worked

[vivid spire]

thanks for spoiling it YouTube

What the fuck

I…

[frozen olive]

||i've tried rolling it but the timing has to be insane if that's the case||

[old brook]

don't look at youtube oh no

[vivid spire]

That’s horrifying but I can see a use case.

[frozen olive]

||he does?||

[tranquil copper]

you need like +6 frames on the roll to do it im p sure and that leaves you open to other bad things. That's why I said bloodhound step for raw distance

[vivid spire]

||Leda is going to hurt herself I think she already killed the hornsent||

It is vital I get that before she kills anyone else.

It’s not that I don’t trust her

But…

[frozen olive]

fair enough

[tranquil copper]

because even if ||you immediately book it the second that the telegraph begins you sometimes just don't make it out of the ground aoe||

[vivid spire]

My faith in humanity is wavering.

[vivid spire]

I GUESS

[frozen olive]

if it's that move then i might actually need a shield cause eating the hit is just ass

[vivid spire]

the video just called it the ||concoction||

[tranquil copper]

source: me - I got my ass blasted like 3 times because I went "I can make this" and then could not in fact make this

[frozen olive]

||i can tell you it's not a love potion i suppose||

[tranquil copper]

you can also (for the main hit) pop the uplifting aromatic

[frozen olive]

||he does have a concoction since you've already been spoiled about that||

[tranquil copper]

I would recommend doing that anyway because the ash summons are ridiculously stupid and will refuse to attempt blocking

[frozen olive]

||but that's definitely not what it is||

||honestly it's about as far from a love potion as it could be from a certain point of view||

[frozen olive]

i'll definitely need to grab that

low-key want to just cheat in materials cause i just don't have the energy to grind for all of the consumable shit i might need

it's the big reason i usually don't use consumables in games

[old brook]

Arteria Leaf the only true offender

Bastardplant

[frozen olive]

i guess

[mellow silo]

The true power is when you realize Mimic exists

Give your aromatic to mimic, profit

[tranquil copper]

do it. There's no reason not to with how bad some of the rare material drop rates are

[old brook]

I don't use mimic, there's only one of me >:0

If there was two of me how would I ever know which one I was, lordt

[mellow silo]

Only thing I'd cheat on are Larval Tears

[tranquil copper]

e.g. there are only 100 St. Trina lilies in the game (including shop stock) and your options for farming them are a 5% drop off the cleanrot knights (good luck) and a 7% drop off the spirit jellyfish in the snowfields.

[old brook]

I do recommend also farming the tears

because it's funny watching the things become other things

[frozen olive]

i usually use Dung Eater cause he is the aggro king

[mellow silo]

You can't farm em though, they're limited

[frozen olive]

for as much of a dogshit person he was he sure is a good helper

[mellow silo]

At least the DLC had a few more, but it's not enough

[frozen olive]

larval tears are limited yeah

which is one thing i don't love

in ds3 you could at least do a bug to get infinite respec

[mellow silo]

Eventually imma cheat in 999 tears

Fuck you game

[old brook]

Should have Chet Rippo and you can raise and lower stats at random, the best RPG companion

[tranquil copper]

you could do the bug in ER its just that they patched it slightly and made it frame perfect

still worked pre dlc dropping, should still work now

[frozen olive]

💀

[tranquil copper]

v not fun to execute tho unlike the DS3 one

[frozen olive]

frame perfect sounds kinda shit

it's really easy to do in ds3

[tranquil copper]

its very shit

[frozen olive]

but yeah i'll probably grab a save editor and just add in the items so i can not worry about it i guess

[tranquil copper]

afaik there isn't a save editor for ER (not a safe one at least) but there's a cheat table that's maintained by Norii (of The Grand Archives discord)

[frail ferry]

ah hell a cutscene phase transition

[tranquil copper]

there's a few tables on nexus mods and dotted around other places but they all use that one as a base to my knowledge

[frail ferry]

ya know i see why malenia had to go nuclear now

[tranquil copper]

lmfao

[tranquil copper]

can't wait for an edit of this

[frail ferry]

what a game huh

captain its the dlc

[frozen olive]

honestly if i have to i'll just find a save file someone set up with max resources and just drop them to a friend and have him drop them to me

[tranquil copper]

drop me a list of stuff you need in a DM and I can drop it to you in a little bit. Already have CE installed just need to go grab the table and use it. Main reason I say that is because some of the mule saves are flagged for cheating and others aren't, so passing items off them can be annoying

[frozen olive]

not online rn sadly

[tranquil copper]

whenevs is convenient then

[frail ferry]

||BLOODFLAME?||

[frozen olive]

will have time tomorrow if you are available

[frozen olive]

can you spoiler whatever it is you are doing

idk what you are fighting but i have an idea

and i don't want spoilers

[frail ferry]

i wonder what ||radahns|| rot resist is

[frozen olive]

gonna be some time tomorrow, i'll ping you if you are online i guess

[tranquil copper]

||radahns phase 1 rot resist is negative something, phase 2 is much higher||

[mellow silo]

Oh, could you help me out with that? Assuming you can drop Larval Tears, which... Unsure.

[tranquil copper]

o7 I'll be awake between <t:1719230400:t> and <t:1719277200:t> for sure, have an event between <t:1719262800:t> and <t:1719266400:t> but otherwise free

[tranquil copper]

I'll check if I can drop one now, if I can then sure

[frozen olive]

i should hopefully be able to catch you then

[tranquil copper]

ah. Definitely can't drop those - they're key items

[tranquil copper]

drop the list beforehand so I can spawn them in in advance preferably - have to do some fiddling to launch the game without EAC to prevent detection of CE

[frozen olive]

aight

i will do a list tomorrow of all the stuff i will need

[tranquil copper]

o7

[mellow silo]

I'll do the same. Ping me whenever you guys do that, for convenience sake

Also, question. Can your cheat table handle DLC items?

[tranquil copper]

drop me a list of w/e non-key items you need now and I can get it done in the next 30m

[tranquil copper]

theoretically yes, practically idk if its been updated yet to include everything from the dlc

I've been out of the game for the last like. 5 or 6 years for working with the innards of souls games so I don't have the know-how to do anything that's not there atm

im just aware of how to turn EAC off and most of my way around the table :')

also where to find a non-infested CE install

[mellow silo]

Ah, alright. I'll see what stuff I need

[tranquil copper]

o7

[mellow silo]

I ask DLC because Drawstring Messmerfire Grease, which is absolutely peak

[vivid spire]

Must not click

[tranquil copper]

yeee no I getcha, there's a lot of stuff in the DLC I'd prefer to have more of as well (the mats for hefty firepots specifically)

[frozen olive]

||i did that||

[junior spade]

ill just delete it so you dont click

[old brook]

Ogh.. ||Ancient Meteoric Ore Greatsword||.. you are so shiny, maybe I stop being dex for a bit

[frozen olive]

(late game spoilers)||i regret helping her because she turned out to be a trick bitch and enlisted Moore to kill me||

[tranquil copper]

@junior spade I did the thing, it didn't actually work out like that lmao. Not going into specifics so its not tempting to open the spoiler but yeah

[tranquil copper]

OH maybe thats why I had what I had happen

[junior spade]

I do think all the NPCs act very well and very in-character, I was happy with the writing thus far

[frozen olive]

||poor Moore 😭 ||

[tranquil copper]

because I accidentally failed that guys quest because I killed (what I thought was) ||a random kindred of rot||

[frozen olive]

the writing is immaculate

[mellow silo]

Dang, uhhhh. Dunno what I want lol. Larval Tears was the main thing

And Messmer Grease

[frozen olive]

i am honestly just mad at ||no continuation for Freyja's quest, my friend got a letter from Ansbach and gave it to her for more dialogue but he didn't leave the letter for me so i couldn't interact further||

[tranquil copper]

its bc ||you have to talk to freyja up top first, then go down to ansbach to get the letter before he leaves, then bring it up to freyja||

[mellow silo]

Gonna sit this one out I guess. Don't feel right putting you through all the trouble for a few levels worth of runes

[frozen olive]

||aahhh||

||behold, misfortune!||

[tranquil copper]

nah its cool, I'll make some messmer grease and the items for it and drop those. If you think of anything while I'm doing so and prepping some crafting mats for myself just lmk and I'll spawn those in as well

its not that much trouble to do I just don't want to do multiple game relaunches because the dlc areas can be very slow to load for me unfortunately

more me being lazy than it actually being a hassle

[frozen olive]

the game loads in so fucking slowly now that the dlc is out

[tranquil copper]

yup

[frozen olive]

used to be a decent wait but it takes fucking forever now

[tranquil copper]

lot of optimisations went down the drain it seems

[frozen olive]

when i'm in game it's manageable but waiting to load into my character on boot takes so long

[tranquil copper]

EAC is definitely not helping, because it being on vs off is always a noticeable difference, but w/e the dlc added isn't helping

[frozen olive]

yeah

good dlc though

very pleased with it

[tranquil copper]

mhm I overall agree

while theres some gripes I have it was very enjoyable and I've v much come around on final boss

[mellow silo]

Yeah I think all is want is Messmerfire Grease and Runes, I'm good otherwise

[tranquil copper]

o7 roughly how many or you don't care how many so i can just give a shitton of the biggest type?

[mellow silo]

One day I'll have to figure out the chest engine and all that stuff to get myself Larval Tears

[dusty kraken]

I think my only sadness with the DLC is that the new weapon types are really fun but I won't be able to do runs that start with any of them. XD

[mellow silo]

Don't care how many, drown me in runes

[tranquil copper]

o7

[dusty kraken]

Like I wanna do a Perfumer Run some time but getting bottles requires going into the dlc itself etc

[vivid spire]

Are bottles even good

I hope they’re good

[junior spade]

ive been dropping items off for friends who just bought elden ring, its been funny

i gave a friend martial arts for his level 1 gift

[frozen olive]

nice

[tranquil copper]

they're definitely interesting, I think some of them are significantly better than others

[frozen olive]

the bottles are really fun

[tranquil copper]

for the dlc I probably wouldn't recommend them, for base game they should be extremely fun and relatively well balanced

[junior spade]

The status bottles are super nice

[frozen olive]

prolly not great for the dlc yeah

[tranquil copper]

the fire ones are also really good

[frozen olive]

but like

the DLC spikes difficulty HARD

[tranquil copper]

because they're an instant reset on freeze even unupgraded with a really fast moveset and some range

[mellow silo]

Shame they scale with dex or id grab em

[tranquil copper]

yeah main reason I wouldn't rec them unfortunately

[junior spade]

this sounds weird but i think they're great mimic tear items

[frozen olive]

basically everything in base game becomes kind of trivial compared to what you deal with in the dlc

[junior spade]

giving your mimic tear the perfume bottles that do frost or poison is nice

[dusty kraken]

...considering mimic tears can use consumables without actually consuming them, I wonder if I should give mine that bottle of Marika Juice that's a Full Heal but 'you can only carry one and they're consumable'.

[vestal night]

there is also a mod on Nexus that lets you gain any item in the game from Kale
which as long as you use it offline, should supposedly be safe

[tranquil copper]

yes

absolutely should

[frozen olive]

do you just need to equip it for mimic to have access

[tranquil copper]

yea that ones the other option if you don't want to attempt doing anything via CE - supposedly p good but I'm a bit entrenched in the old ways and I've seen a few malicious things be flown about on nexus

[frozen olive]

cause in that case

[tranquil copper]

yes

[frozen olive]

i'm definitely equipping it

[tranquil copper]

main reason I made extra pots and aromatics

[frozen olive]

that sounds excellent

[tranquil copper]

because hte mimic does use them and I dont have to

[frozen olive]

that sounds great

[mellow silo]

Also give Meat Dumplings to your mimic

Mimic doesn't poison easily

So it's just free mimic heals

[tranquil copper]

(should clarify, that mod is SUPPOSED to be safe - and I'm reasonably sure it is. The cheat tables on nexus shouldn't be trusted at face value to be on the safe side. They're still on nexus so presumably mostly safe, but better safe than sorry)

[vestal night]

from what I've heard in general
valid item editing is mostly safe, as long as you do it offline/with EAC disabled

[dusty kraken]

Do you need to stay offline after that or once it's done can you play with friends again?

[tranquil copper]

the issue with the nexus tables isn't that they're item editing its that the tables aren't always updated and the people uploading them don't always leave them clean

[tranquil copper]

once its done you can play with friends again

if you want me to make anything for you rn drop me an @ as I'm making some runes and messmer grease for mouse rn

[junior spade]

i just dont trust any of it / dont trust myself to do it right

[tranquil copper]

completely fair

[dusty kraken]

Sadly I'm At Work. XD

Lunch Break, not 'can play elden ring'

[tranquil copper]

fairnuff, same as I said to rose earlier then drop me a list of stuff you want and I can print it for you at a later date

[dusty kraken]

Fair. I'll ponder things as I was looking at giving a dancer build a go some time (Dancing blades + Dancing outfit, see if I can make it work despite how low the prot/poise is on that setup).

[tranquil copper]

o7

aight @mellow silo what PW we using I'm relaunching online now

also where in limgrave am I dropping a sign because I uh. I don't have the dlc locations atm and dont want to chance summon pool

[mellow silo]

Meet at Church Of Elleh, code LANCER, put down a Duelist sign so we dont get interrupted

[tranquil copper]

o7 otw

chars name will be Luna - should have a bandit mask on and white hair

signs down o7

[mellow silo]

Got it all

[tranquil copper]

sweet o7

[mellow silo]

Thanks a million

[tranquil copper]

np, always happy to help

[mellow silo]

Sweet outfit btw

[tranquil copper]

ty ^^ I'm potentially going to pickup godfreys stuff this run through as I should be swimming in spare runes by the time I get there

plan to fistfight him and record it

[frozen olive]

i'm thinking of using Hoarah Loux's earthshaker on ||Danes martial arts weapon||

i think that would be a sick as fuck combo

[tranquil copper]

god that'd be amazing

[frozen olive]

NOW I FIGHT AS HOARAH LOUX, WARRIOR

[mellow silo]

300 Messmerfire Grease crafted, we are ready to rock and roll

[tranquil copper]

I'm probably going to just put parry on it

[tranquil copper]

hell yea!

[frozen olive]

i think the optimal ash is the default one

[mellow silo]

Nobody expects the Messmer Inquisition!

[frozen olive]

since i heard it has infinite poise and does stupid damage when charged up

but optimal is shit

we go for the coolest shit

[tranquil copper]

yes and yes, I dont think its optimal personally tho

but most importantly to me: I need to see if final boss is parryable

if it is

[frozen olive]

and the coolest thing ever would be ||using martial arts with Hoarah Loux's fucking ash||

prolly do a custom cosplay of him

Nepheli Loux could never

[tranquil copper]

fuckit i'll see if you can rn

the ash i mean

[frozen olive]

oh you can

i already tested it

you can even put Hoarah Loux's earthshaker on the ||kick version of danes weapon||

[nova smelt]

for those of you looking at the map and wondering what the hell is over here allow me to be the first to say DO NOT WORRY ABOUT IT DO NOT GO HERE

[frozen olive]

but i think the ||fist version would be the most fitting||

definitely go there

it'll be funny

[tranquil copper]

its wrong there's some sick loot there

especially if you figure out the gimmick to the gimmick

[nova smelt]

NO NOT GO HERE

[vestal night]

it's the fun zone

[tranquil copper]

||you can parry the winter lanterns when they attempt grabbing and after the riposte you can kill them. They do not respawn||

[vestal night]

having just made it down there myself

[frozen olive]

the ultimate fun zone

there is also a ||spineless loser|| down there

[mellow silo]

Drip check?

[vestal night]

||not being able to use Torrent is pretty annoying though, I don't look forward to having traverse down there on foot||

[frozen olive]

who you can ||fight to the death in mortal combat||

[tranquil copper]

||he's not spineless he's got too much spine and he beat me with it :(||

[frozen olive]

||i stole both of his spines, what an idiot||

[frozen olive]

||too much of a loser to even become a lord of frenzy, i literally did that AND i cleansed myself of it as well just cause it was funny||

[mellow silo]

Hell yeah

[tranquil copper]

god I cant wait to get to the dragon communion church and actually have special eyes I like

the varre quest ones are so annoying bc they look eh and they overwrite all others

[frozen olive]

yeah

i hate that

i actually had dragon eyes on Flameseer Freyja

but Varre eyes destroyed them

and you ||lose frenzy eyes when you cleanse yourself||

[mellow silo]

Yet another reason to say fuck varre

[frozen olive]

what a dick

[tranquil copper]

only reason hes still alive is in my excitement of experimenting with a new weapon I forgot I could kill him without consequences this run

[frozen olive]

lmao

[tranquil copper]

because I plan on taking the snowfields entrance to mohg so I don't forget to grab the holy blade and some other stuff I missed on this char's first run

absolutely bodied

WA > Charged R2 killed him

[paper badge]

would anybody mind helping me co-op the final boss

I need two human players

this shit is cracked out

[frozen olive]

the final boss is absolutely yoked

i'm going to need to prep more to win

[paper badge]

I straight up fucking NEED bloodhund step to dodge any of this horseshit

[tranquil copper]

im willing to try

idk how good I'll be but I can try

2s to put my build back on

you'll need to summon pool me in because I dont have dlc location access physically atm

[frozen olive]

i can do consistent hurt if the boss doesn't focus me

[tranquil copper]

any particular password?

[frozen olive]

which is of course the problem

because it does and it hurts me way more than i hurt it

[paper badge]

this is exactly why I need two human co-op partners

even just one is not enough to keep aggro

[paper badge]

how does this work? also @frozen olive want in on this to try and beat it?

[paper badge]

you mean you haven't reached the DLC or you just haven't gotten tooo the final area of the DLC?

[tranquil copper]

there should be a marika with a like crucifix behind her or someth (idk if its actually marika) my sign should appear there

[paper badge]

actually regardless it's probably better you not be there

if you're uh

[tranquil copper]

I started a new game cycle after killing final boss

[paper badge]

ahhhhhhhhh

okay then

let's set the password to like

HORUS

[tranquil copper]

o7

should be in the pools now

char name Luna, currently have a bandit mask on and white hair

[paper badge]

I gotta restart elden ring

[tranquil copper]

may have the ||relanna|| set on when you summon me

o7

[paper badge]

and I really want a second co-op

in addition to you

[tranquil copper]

grab uuuh ||ansbach|| if their signs there and we can't get a 3rd

[frozen olive]

i've been going into it with ||Thiollier and Ansbach||

[paper badge]

need humans

tbh

neither of them have been enough help IMO

[frozen olive]

lmao

[tranquil copper]

reason I say ||ansbach|| is because he bleeds the boss and has enough hp to be worthwhile. The other is supposedly not bad (I never even met them bc I accidentally bricked their quest via another NPC) but bleed is king in most situations

[frozen olive]

not wrong

thinking about respeccing my build honestly

[tranquil copper]

if that was to @ me then uuuh

[paper badge]

oh oops

[tranquil copper]

pain~1 I will do some shenanigans ig to come help? Hm it should've worked

I'll try resending it

[paper badge]

should I undo and redo my furlcalliing thing?

[tranquil copper]

shouldnt need to do that

just walk a bit away from the pool and walk back and it should reload

I may need to just shenanigan my way to the dlc blegh

2s lemme double check

[paper badge]

your sign is straight up not appearing

[tranquil copper]

ok it should appear I double checked their notice regarding it

like to direct quote

[vivid spire]

Hmmm

[tranquil copper]

we both on PC?

[vivid spire]

So where’s the hippo in ||Charos||

I can’t find it

[tranquil copper]

I found it wandering around a lake

@paper badge just to confirm, you're looking around that thing yeah

[paper badge]

yes

[vivid spire]

At charos?

[paper badge]

and I am on PC

[tranquil copper]

THONK

[paper badge]

gonna try quitting out and loading again

[tranquil copper]

definitely all caps HORUS?

oh!

wait I know holup

[paper badge]

I didn't set the pasword until I looaded in this time

[tranquil copper]

make sure tahts on

as we're likely EU/NA diff

[tranquil copper]

its fine doing that, thinking its the cross-region play thing

[paper badge]

setting is on

I don't see ur sign

[tranquil copper]

re-sent it

might've cancelled after I warped to the current grace

should definitely be there now tho

[paper badge]

re-send it one more time, my dumb ass quit out and reloaded as you were re-sending it that time

[tranquil copper]

sending

[paper badge]

what level are you?

I'm 162

[tranquil copper]

209

should be within range for password matching

[paper badge]

honestly I might just level up a bit anyway

I have a bunch of rune items I am not using

[mellow silo]

Password matching doesn't have level range I don't think

[mellow silo]

I summoned in a level 160 as a level 7 once

[tranquil copper]

if level is an issue then you need to be 181, level shouldn't be an issue but im wondering if summon pool is weird and making it an issue

that or i somehow never went close enough to unlock the pool for that one so I can't be sent there?

I really hope not that'd be really stupid

[mellow silo]

Specifically summoning pools have a level range

Not direct summon signs

[tranquil copper]

yeah trying to password summon through it though as that's supposed to be possible

stinky that it re-applies the range

[paper badge]

maybe I'll go try the grave before this?

grace

[tranquil copper]

go for it

I'm pretty sure htey're supposed to spawn around the statues but maybe im misremembering

it was 2 or 3 years since I did any coop

[real shadow]

||Messmer|| isn't particularly fun.

[paper badge]

your sign is not appearing at all @tranquil copper

[tranquil copper]

pain

i'll take the password off and see if I can be summoned period

[junior spade]

final boss spoilers ||Damn. What a phase 2. Lots going on. Can't believe I actually get to use Miq's Rune in a fight though. No idea how to make progress in this fight though||

[paper badge]

my conclusion as to how to actually beat the fight is I need two human coo-op players lmfao

[tranquil copper]

no ones summoning me and ive been to all of the dlc bosses

wonder if the ng+ thing was a lie or if I just managed to miss literally all of the things

2s I should be able to flag check ig

[paper badge]

it could just be like

[atomic jetty]

spoilered cause a bit of cheating
||restarted the dlc, cause i was getting tired of bouncing between where i was in the main game and in the dlc, i beat mohgwyn and radahn legit in my first go at it, but i was pre fire giant so i was missing a bunch of stuff, and it was starting to erode at my enjoyment, so i started a new char, gave myself everything in the base game , and lvl 150 (same as i started the dlc the first time around) using a cheat engine script, enjoying the dlc way more now that im not bouncing between main game and dlc over and over||

[paper badge]

you need to set foot into the dlc

[tranquil copper]

potentially but they didn't mention that at all

[vivid spire]

What works against ||Bayle||

[tranquil copper]

and I wasn't being summoned even in base game and I KNOW I have haligtree and such unlocked because I helped people through there for runes in the past

[vivid spire]

Bleed? Black flame?

[tranquil copper]

statuses

Frost and Bleed were great ime

but basically everything works

[vivid spire]

Alrighty

[paper badge]

why do I get so many 'unable to summon cooperator' errors anyway

only reason II'm asking specific people

[tranquil copper]

connection issues/people being summoned by multiple people at the same time

[mellow silo]

That one great katana absolutely juiced in Dragonwound Grease

[junior spade]

The summon for Bayle helps a loooooot

imo

[mellow silo]

Also is extremely funny

[tranquil copper]

also that

its inside the arena on the left

||and is why I was telling you to do the quest||

[junior spade]

you need to be sure to unlock it first

[atomic jetty]

oooh inside the arena

[frozen olive]

||CURE YOU BAYLE!||

[mellow silo]

Do not cure that Bayle

[junior spade]

the dlc having summons inside the arenas is both cool and also "hey when do i get to actually click this"

[frozen olive]

||Igon by FAR has my favourite dialogue in the DLC||

[atomic jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-invincible-omni-man-jk-simmons-that's-the-neat-thing-gif-4390372980992221432

[frozen olive]

yeaaah

it does become a bit of an issue

[frozen olive]

||Ancient Dragon-Man's Dragon Hunter Katana||

||Bayle is a dragon and thus weak to anti-dragon power||

[mellow silo]

"MY ARMS! MY LEGS! EACH A BLOODY RUIN!!" Dramatic bastard, you can walk it off

[twilit path]

absolutely. I more or less did the same the day before dlc dropped

[frozen olive]

||but yeah Igon has top tier dialogue against Bayle and genuinely such incredible voice acting||

[junior spade]

i know im deep in the dlc but i also havent done fire giant LOL

i do miss Some Items

[atomic jetty]

im still happy i replayed the game, it let me get used to the playstyle of collosal weapons, it just was a bunch of friction when i got to the dlc

[paper badge]

I need human cooperators so bad

[frozen olive]

i made it to Crumbling Farum Azula before the DLC

i have since killed god

[vivid spire]

I think I did it I don’t remember

I have the summon

[frozen olive]

wait why am i spoilering this

[vivid spire]

But Bayle bites or lasers me immediately

I pop opaline but I’m still dead

[mellow silo]

Same here. But they're in such high demand you have about one second to claim one or else Unable To Summon Cooperator

[atomic jetty]

yeah main game you can leave unspoilered, its been out long enough :P

[vivid spire]

And for some reason his breath attacks should be easy to dodge into but there not

[frozen olive]

go look for more scadutree i guess

[vivid spire]

Fuuck

[atomic jetty]

and yeah i did beat the actual game legitimately way back when it released, i even got 100% achievemnts

[vivid spire]

I don’t even know where the damn hippo is that has five of them

[frozen olive]

i'm going to need to look for more scadutree fragments personally

[frozen olive]

the boss i am at is beating my ass so fucking hard it's not funny

[vivid spire]

I still can’t figure that out the walkthroughs are all how to get to ||Charos Grave ||not what’s in it

[mellow silo]

Me as a serial Cooperator, I'm winning. Instant summon, every time

[tranquil copper]

aight did some digging, I can't go and unlock the pools from where I'm standing in limgrave at the moment with the table - I can try doing a speedrun into the DLC by spawning the quest item varre gives and just. Killing mohg, but you'll have to give me a second to backup my save file because I want to do things normally on this ng cycle

[frozen olive]

i'm going to be farming runes and scouring for Scadutree fragments tomorrow

i might have to respec also

just cause i need to max out any kind of cheese advantage i can get to beat this boss

[vivid spire]

I FOUND IT

time to die

[paper badge]

I doubt I will find to co-op partners the 'natural' way anyhow

can I use a password to summon you, then take the password off to summon a different person?

[tranquil copper]

o7 I've just finished backing stuff up so gimme a few minutes to hop on over by the power of this gun I found friendship

[tranquil copper]

yes

should be able to afaik

[frozen olive]

huh

[mellow silo]

Reached level 175, that's the highest I'll go