I feel myself losing braincells
#Elden Ring (DLC hype room)
tropic stream
glossy delta
I think its suitably creepy and deformed for the area
I didn't like the ||fire wave|| mostly
You more or less require a special dodge art like quickstep or vow or raptor of the mists to survive
kind garden
not gonna lie
I just cracked that thing's skull open
I was like "hmm, you do a lot of damage to me"
"I do a lot of damage to you"
"Let's see who gets to Hell first"
kind garden
I didn't like the ||fire wave|| mostly
You more or less require a special dodge ...
or the A button lmao
there's a lot of ground-hitting, earth-shaking, arena-filling attacks in the DLC that you can just jump over
left willow
"Let's see who gets to Hell first"
ah, that wasn't supposed to send yet
Sorry for the ping
twilit path
What the fuck they put Yoda in the game
kind garden
Yoda's a little motherfucker dude
any attack will stagger him but also that dude comes at you like cleopatru
dusty kraken
I have the distinct issue with the DLC is that I totally want to use some of the weapons in it for a new game build but you can't get into the DLC until you've done rather a lot. XD
glossy delta
I get that
But it also feels like a fairly unavoidable problem
Since its meant to be more content for people's existing, high level chars
dusty kraken
Oh yeah, just means I'm going to need to recruit a friend of mine to basicly act as Item Mule so I can trade with myself 😛
And get the Dancing Blades/Outfit on a new game character
limpid peak
did I hear that you can get a finesse ash of war for the beast claws?
like Bloodhound's Finesse, or Dynast's Finesse
stone cove
like Bloodhound's Finesse, or Dynast's Finesse
You can, and i have got it! Though it's not quite the same
It's more of an evasive dash which has iframes into an attack leap
quite a long animation, actually
it's not like finesse where it's evade with choice of follow up
limpid peak
where do you get it?
stone cove
Have you found how to get to Bonny Village?
limpid peak
sick
ooh, got Messmer down to 10%
just have to work out how to dodge so many snakes
NOOOOO
he died
after I did
limpid peak
damn, doing worse now, must be getting tilted
limpid peak
the fucker is dead, I am the king of god
steel scroll
i swear fromsoft motherfuckers will look at any slathering, howling. mindless hellbeast and say to themselves "i will ingest whatever it takes to turn into that". ||FINGERS??? YOU WANT TO BE FINGERS, NOW!?||
limpid peak
I mean, absolutely not that
but I really dig feral knights and will attempt to become one in any Fromsoft game
(Dancer of the Boreal Valley, Bloodhound Knight, Maliketh)
rich lintel
so true knights should be spinning around on all fours like a weirdo not standing up
limpid peak
claw weapons let me get close, but my posture fixes itself when I'm not attacking
rich lintel
simply always crouch
dusty kraken
i swear fromsoft motherfuckers will look at any slathering, howling. mindless he...
See, I'm prone to ingesting whatever random item they give me that's consumable just to see what it does. || Which went badly for me in this DLC||
steel scroll
See, I'm prone to ingesting whatever random item they give me that's consumable ...
you drink that purple stuff yet?
dusty kraken
you drink that purple stuff yet?
||I drank the 'I am tired of life' potion and it had exactly the expect I expected.||
limpid peak
(Spoilers for post Shadow Keep area) ||Enir-Ilim is kicking my ass. have to go up the stairs under a bombardment of hard to dodge attacks||
okay, I just sprinted through it and dodged well
again, same spoilers, what the fuck
old brook
After bashing my face against ||Jagged Peak|| went back to the castle and took down ||Rellanna|| in one go, just needed training arc
limpid peak
this DLC really doesn't skimp on cool armour
I feel like I've found as many armour sets as were in the base game
rich lintel
i found exactly one set (discount guts) and haven’t switched off since
granted i’ve yet to find any others but still
am hoping to maybe farm the horned knights in belurat for their gear tho, looks baller
limpid peak
very late game spoiler ||Radahn?! Radahn without scarlet rot? Holy shit, I'd always wandered how this would go||
this boss fight doesn't fuck around
although few in this DLC do
umbral portal
very late game spoiler ||Radahn?! Radahn without scarlet rot? Holy shit, I'd alw...
It's uh, not easy
as you can tell
limpid peak
it absolutely isn't, yeah
I tried four times and decided to come back later
I noticed he uses ||the new version of Lion's Claw||
is he a ||Remembrance boss?||
limpid peak
||That is interesting, looking forward to seeing what you get from it, since we already have his swords||
junior spade
I didn't like the ||fire wave|| mostly
You more or less require a special dodge ...
You can just Jump it
mellow silo
Do consumables refund when you use them as a summon?
tropic stream
What the fuck they put Yoda in the game
||Demihuman swordsman||?
junior spade
Vague as possible: anyone solve the sword in stone stuff
junior spade
Do consumables refund when you use them as a summon?
I thiiiiink so but not confident
limpid peak
nope, I found one in Ruah, no idea what to do with it
tropic stream
There's a pair of altars in different ruins
junior spade
Have we found more "ancient" ruins? 🤔
tropic stream
Also there's two copies of the sword in the stone so you can get both upgraded versions lmao
junior spade
Sweet
Im excited
Ill work on that after work
Im trying to make sure ive solved all the puzzles before doing my last few bosses
tropic stream
Also do we all agree that given the game's Celtic and Norse roots, that Scadutree's 'd' is meant to be the Norse þorn 'þ' rune
mellow silo
Working on learning Messmer
tropic stream
But their font doesn't support it or whatever
junior spade
I know nothing of norse stuff
tropic stream
There's a couple of words in base game that borrow Norse-English transliteration rules as well as Celtic-English transliteration
Like Gaol being pronounced 'jail'
limpid peak
Scath, in Irish, means shadow
mellow silo
So it would be pronounced "skathutree"
tropic stream
Well there you fuckin go
mellow silo
Nice
limpid peak
sorry, scáth
tropic stream
But yeah I argue it's meant to be Scathutree, with the evidence that scáth is Irish Gaelic for shadow and the thorn rune which makes a 'th' sound is often transliterated as a 'd' in English
Which, btw, fun fact about thorn/eth
Which make the same sound
Odin's name is affected by that transliteration
His name isn't Odin, it's Othin
junior spade
Bonus points if the golden order changed the spelling :p
junior spade
I do feel confident that i did all the npc questlines in the dlc, i think
tropic stream
You say it like the 'th' sound in 'other'
I do wish there were more light greatswords tbh
junior spade
Milady is perfect
tropic stream
Imagine an Arcane one that worked like the Marais sword or Eochaid
junior spade
I just wish she hit poise harder
tropic stream
Milady is absolutely wonderful, this is true
I just wish my new fav weapon type had more examples
limpid peak
I do feel confident that i did all the npc questlines in the dlc, i think
I apparently missed a guy dressed as sauron
I got his armour, but never found him
tropic stream
wait what the fuck lol
limpid peak
saw him in a screenshot
junior spade
Dont worry youll see them
limpid peak
pardon the claws
they don't really work with this set
(go great with the Maliketh set though)
junior spade
Specific hint for that npc: || church after moorth ruins ||
limpid peak
I've also just worked out I'm missing the Gravebird pants
got the rest (including the chest twice)
limpid peak
Specific hint for that npc: || church after moorth ruins ||
||The church of the Crusade? I can't find anyone there||
limpid peak
think I found where they're supposed to be
oh, hmm
||I may have killed them, I got invaded by someone below the church in similar attire||
tranquil copper
||I may have killed them, I got invaded by someone below the church in similar a...
its ||not the same one. That ones someone related to her. Come back to the area after beating the thing at the end of the place you were invaded in and resting at a grace site and check what changed||
real shadow
Twitter
limpid peak
its ||not the same one. That ones someone related to her. Come back to the area ...
alright, thanks
junior spade
think I found where they're supposed to be
Oh huh she wasnt there the first time, with ymir?
limpid peak
I could have just missed her
tranquil copper
she blends in really well
junior spade
She is in all black yeah
tranquil copper
walked past her 4 times after being told abt her
steel scroll
I do not want to be in the abyss any more
mellow silo
Must find
limpid peak
It's in the ||fog rift catacombs||
and it wasn't easy to find either
I suggest reading all the messages
mellow silo
No idea where that is lol
junior spade
I do not want to be in the abyss any more
the more messages i found the worst it got
junior spade
No idea where that is lol
From the front of castle ensis, outside the dungeon, go left and try to go further in till you get firebombed a lot
youll know youre in the right place when Fog
mellow silo
I have found Fog
junior spade
🫵 you, fog, now
steel scroll
The fog is coming
junior spade
👇 abyss now
tropic stream
It's in the ||fog rift catacombs||
immediately beelines to there
junior spade
🫵 rhi to the fog NOW
mellow silo
Fog Rift is kicking my ass, as usual
vestal night
The catacombs are something alright
tropic stream
🫵 rhi to the fog NOW
Look the last thing I did was fight ||The Death Knight with the twin axes with that ash||
I waaaant it on Milady so baaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!!!!
limpid peak
Look the *last* thing I did was fight ||The Death Knight with the twin axes with...
Wait, isn't that in the ||Fog Rift catacombs?||
tropic stream
Hold on lemme launch gaem
vestal night
Wait, isn't that in the ||Fog Rift catacombs?||
That should be the same catacombs, yeah
stone cove
I waaaant it on Milady so baaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!!!!
So the sad thing is it just teleports you foward, it doesnt actually let you do big electgric attack out of it
tropic stream
I know it doesn't let me do the attacks
stone cove
But it does flow into your R1s/R2s nicely and quite fast
Ah, cool! just didnt want you to be disapointed
mellow silo
What the hell is happening... My sword is so weak dear christ
The whip did more damage
steel scroll
im using the blinkbolt poleaxe, which does give you a heavy followup for the boltblink
tropic stream
Yeah the unique twin axes have a followup
stone cove
What the hell is happening... My sword is so weak dear christ
What sword are you using? what's your stats?
mellow silo
Heavy Flame Knight Collosal Greatsword +24, 60 STR 40FTH
vivid spire
Wait how do I get the ash of war off of the axes
junior spade
Its a separate loot
vivid spire
in the catacombs
junior spade
yeah, same dungeon
stone cove
Yeah, i was about to say the only reason i can see is you'd not have the stats required
frozen olive
spellcasting kinda goated
frozen olive
i haven't found anything
steel scroll
i've become as huge as possible without killing messmer. guess i'll get him tomorrow. (||18|| spookytree blessing)
limpid peak
(Ymir quest spoilers) ||I've forgotten how to dodge the Mother of Fingers. I'm just getting hit constantly for half of my health||
junior spade
(Ymir quest spoilers) ||I've forgotten how to dodge the Mother of Fingers. I'm j...
some of the roll timing is funny
frozen olive
kinda feel like i've gone in a bit soft with Shadow of the Erdtree with spamming summons and shit, but at the same time i think it would have been miserable to just be stuck on every boss for ages and not being able to progress
junior spade
Summons are in the game for a reason
frozen olive
yeah true
i can hop on later after i clear the DLC and solo fight whatever the hardest boss ends up being
my objective rn is just having fun and getting through it
junior spade
gotta get your recon in before you go for the elite solo
frozen olive
yup
golden pond
farming albinaurics
bird gets golden eyes
+64k souls c:
limpid peak
god, the combos feel slow enough to punish but they never are
frozen olive
unlike when i fought Malenia in the base game Shadow of the Erdtree don't got no guides or nothing
vivid spire
Hmmmm
frail ferry
god, the combos feel slow enough to punish but they never are
Jump attacks help alot
frozen olive
gotta just get through everything before i start working on some solo shit
vivid spire
Idk I’m trying to like melee
But the no hit gameplay is really incentive to spam ashes and spells
frail ferry
Shields
frozen olive
But the no hit gameplay is really incentive to spam ashes and spells
it is yeah
vivid spire
Blade of Calling is clutch for knocking of ledges
frail ferry
And they know it
They gave you a really good weapon with a unique guard counter early
frozen olive
in The lands between and the land of shadows, i alone am the Knights Lightning Spear spammer
not even ||Messmer|| survived it
junior spade
freyja, god of lightning
frozen olive
hit em with the dung eater distraction strat and throw one million lightning bolts into their back
nobody is safe
except uh
frozen olive
||Dread Bayle, he's too fucking big and has too much AoE for me to use that strat, i just hit him with the Ancient Dragon-Man special||
also ||throwing lightning at an enormous dragon brimming with deadly lightning is just not smart||
frail ferry
Messmers snakes could prove a challenge
But would you lose
Nah, id win
frozen olive
he's hard like the other bosses
mellow silo
Messmer's phase 1 seems pretty fair. Unsure on Phase 2
frozen olive
just gotta dodge the snakes
tropic stream
Man
frail ferry
I have the opposite opinion
tropic stream
This ash is fuckin mod lol
frail ferry
Which?
atomic jetty
lol, lmao, i win (hippo)
twilit path
||Demihuman swordsman||?
Yep
frozen olive
oh yeah!
i need to max out that ash
it'll be really fucking funny to summon ||Elden Ring Yoda||
frozen olive
me neither
frail ferry
I found a legendary one and it's goated
frozen olive
which one?
limpid peak
smith?
junior spade
One more mystery i havent solved yet: Has anyone found a use for (item npc gives you) ||Thollier's Concoction||
frail ferry
Yep
atomic jetty
i should but
i like the second me with a big hammer
limpid peak
One more mystery i havent solved yet: Has anyone found a use for (item npc gives...
no, I was wondering that too
you can even buy a second one
twilit path
One more mystery i havent solved yet: Has anyone found a use for (item npc gives...
||chug it... Over and over||
frail ferry
Nah
frozen olive
i've been using Mimic and Dung Eater
limpid peak
||might be dragon related?||
frail ferry
Prob not
junior spade
but i havent beaten|| Bayle|| yet so who knows
limpid peak
are you talking about the purple drink?
junior spade
||chug it... Over and over||
oh its reusable?
limpid peak
in the south?
junior spade
it looked like a one-time thing
limpid peak
or the the consumable Thollier gives you
twilit path
I don't remember if it is or if I had to buy more from thollier
junior spade
do you want an answer to that
junior spade
spoilers please haha
mellow silo
Spoilers
frail ferry
That does explain a bit
nova smelt
Sorry I thought I could just post spoilers my bad
junior spade
nah, dlc spoilers gotta be spoilered here for now, base game stuff is fine
frail ferry
Also I'm envoking Greek mythology family rules
nova smelt
I misread the title of the room
frail ferry
As long as it's not direct
junior spade
since we're all trying to figure it all out anyways
I'm determined to solve it all w/out the internet, you guys excluded
tropic stream
location spoilers ||I'm offended this travesty has the first half of my name||
frozen olive
||https://youtu.be/dO8vEHspEdE?si=b8NV2uquhBVtBuTl||
||The Divine Dancing Lion's are so fucking cool, since they are both puppets and also genuine divine beasts and protectors of the lands||
junior spade
going into ER originally blind was so much fun and this DLC is more of the same
nova smelt
Okay here it is spoilered, but this time it's actual huge spoilers ||Miquella and Radahn were in love and Radahn was his consort but circumstances kept them apart. When Miquella went missing Malenia thought Radahn did it and so that's why she went after him. Miquella is using the body of Mohg as a vessel for radahn's soul so he can have a consort to keep him tied to the world despite his godhood||
atomic jetty
i just learned what the inside of a living jar looks like
limpid peak
so I drank both copies of ||Thollier's Concoction||
atomic jetty
i dont think i can recover
frozen olive
yeah
limpid peak
||I died both times||
frozen olive
living jar not good
limpid peak
yeah, I figured
junior spade
i just learned what the inside of a living jar looks like
Alexander looks like this and i cant recover
atomic jetty
yep :)
limpid peak
but someone said that's what you do and I figured I'd test it
hope you don't need them for something important later
junior spade
I'll hold onto mine and test some npc stuff
real shadow
One more mystery i havent solved yet: Has anyone found a use for (item npc gives...
Its to ||give to the dragon priestess over by the grand altar of dragon communion; however, if you defeat Bayle first before giving her the drink you can't give it to her as she disappears.||
kind garden
So far the only boss I've summoned for was Messmer and I just wanted to forward Hornsent's quest
nova smelt
Y'all tried out dryleaf yet btw?
twilit path
so I drank both copies of ||Thollier's Concoction||
||Two to three more times now||
nova smelt
probably should
I have been using it and it's default weapon art, Palm Blast, is the single most overpowered thing I have ever used imo
kind garden
palm blast is unreal
nova smelt
It has UNLIMITED POISE WHILE CHARGING IT
kind garden
it's just Hand Nuke
nova smelt
And crazy ass stance damage
frozen olive
wait what
real shadow
Biden Blast
frail ferry
RASENGAN
twilit path
Yeah the poise is insane. Just tank anything
frozen olive
tf
frail ferry
Fist build otw
kind garden
the hyper armor on it is gigantic
conversely it's like
kinda fiddly to get it to hit on a lot of enemies tbh
idk I've been breaking heads with Savage Lion Claw
nova smelt
Literally walked up to the ||hippo|| and went BIDEN BLAST and staggered it in 3 hits
frozen olive
jeez
nova smelt
In pvp it's also insane
kind garden
Savage Lion Claw has tons of hyper armor on the flip
nova smelt
It's a near oneshot
frozen olive
also TIL that Rennala's gloves add a ring to one of the hands
didn't realize this was a thing
subtle detail but a neat one
junior spade
My weapon journey thus far has included the ||Greatsword of Solitude (very cool), Milady (okay, neat infusable but not a fan of the output), and now Poleblade of the Bud (really fuckin cool)||
frail ferry
That dark steel great hammer with sacred blade fucks SO hard
frail ferry
Jump off the balcony before relana
kind garden
I've been using a +24 Sacred Darksteel Greathammer with the Curved Sword Talisman and Savage Lion Claw
and it's just
destroying the game for me lmao
junior spade
but my uh.... journey through the shadow keep was very atypical lmao, ||i actually fought the hippo after messmer||
vestal night
oh lmao
nova smelt
I have not found that stance
Here's where you get it, it's quite early ||from the grace outside relanna's boss room, jump off the balcony and climb the tower nearby||
||chest at the top||
kind garden
Anyone got one of them uhhhhh
infusable fire weapons...
maybe with some Faith scaling to start off?
grave plinth
Okay here it is spoilered, but this time it's actual huge spoilers ||Miquella an...
||i’m pretty sure Radahn spurned Miquella’s advances and Miquella sent Malenia to kill Radahn so he could rebuild him as more “perfect” (obedient) consort||
umbral portal
||Yeah Radahn didn't consent||
grave plinth
||Fromsoft adds yet another Berserk reference||
stone cove
Summons are in the game for a reason
Honestly the elitism around summons is maddening
Not using ashes is literally just a challenge mode option.
junior spade
i dont concern myself with it. ill use whatever the game gives me
summons, crafted items, you name it
its all fair game
stone cove
Same here, I just think it's a very irritating attitude in the fandom
junior spade
i dont interact with fandom to save myself heartache haha
im an adult i dont got time for that
frozen olive
the only reason i care is so i can flex on my friends
stone cove
I stick to good ol mimic tear myself. But dung eater is very solid
I mean, I'm good at the game, I just have zero shame about doing what I can to break it over my knee
frozen olive
beat Malenia no summons for my first time fighting her so i could flex on one of my friends who is really good at these kinds of games but hadn't done it yet
stone cove
Baldur's gate 3 is still crying from my monk run
nova smelt
||i’m pretty sure Radahn spurned Miquella’s advances and Miquella sent Malenia t...
||I don't know about that personally, I didn't quite read it that way||
frozen olive
that's the only reason i care though
old brook
NPCs just cannot handle the ||Beast Claw|| moveset, everything has chasing follow-ups, this is a real fun way to fight these
junior spade
i wish i wasnt at work i wanna solve more puzzles LOL
old brook
Also the charged R2 is a big enough jump to clear a lot of spells
nova smelt
NPCs just cannot handle the ||Beast Claw|| moveset, everything has chasing follo...
Where do you get it and does it scale well with dex
old brook
Forest about 50 meters from the starting point in the DLC, and it can take ashes of war so adjustable
kind garden
beast claw: wack
old brook
Seems more strength based but workable
kind garden
bear claw: tight
vestal night
Where do you get it and does it scale well with dex
you can get the basic version right on the Grave Plains
nova smelt
I must find it
vestal night
from the first grace just go right and follow the edge for a while
old brook
I just love anything with Buffable Bleed
vestal night
you should find the guy quickly enough
old brook
He's the second thing I found after the weird discus throwing.. folks
frozen olive
me when i see a legendary item (it's a smithing stone or glovewort)
kind garden
let's go gambling
aww dangit (Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone)
aww dangit (Great Grave Glovewort)
old brook
Also for sure thought ||Igon||| was being a bit dramatic but this ||Bayle|| is the devil
frozen olive
||Igon is the fucking goat for his dialogue||
old brook
Never upset about an ancient stone
frail ferry
Ancient somber
I CANT STOP WINNING
frozen olive
||CURSE YOU BAYLE!||
umbral portal
Also for sure thought ||Igon||| was being a bit dramatic but this ||Bayle|| is ...
||He's quite literally satan to Placidaux's god||
||He's the one who wounded Placidaux, even||
frozen olive
||Igon has real I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH energy||
old brook
||***CURSE YOU BAYLE!***||
||now just gimme a damn second to summon em||
vestal night
||Igon has real I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH energy||
love that guy
frozen olive
||He's the one who wounded Placidaux, even||
fun fact about that
||One of Placidusax heads is STILL biting Bayles neck||
umbral portal
||Nice||
frozen olive
||Bayle took like 2-3 of Placidusax head wounding him grievously and Placidusax took Bayles hands and one of his legs||
old brook
Also tons of fire damage around, Flame Monk ashes tanking like hell
frozen olive
nobody:
||Igon when he sees Bayle the Dread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk-HPBF6Mw||
glossy delta
nobody:
||Igon when he sees Bayle the Dread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk...
||igon is so funny||
||when I first encountered him there was a big ring of message saying 'pathetic sort ahead', 'beast ahead', so on so on'||
||I added 'ill-omened creature ahead' to the pile||
frozen olive
man, ||Messmer's Orb is fucking rad||
frozen olive
||igon is so funny||
||when I first encountered him there was a big ring of mess...
he truly is
i'm still mad that i ||killed Bayle and can't even use his spells cause they need stupid amounts of arcane||
vestal night
||igon is so funny||
||when I first encountered him there was a big ring of mess...
the two messages next to him for me were "time for edge" and "likely out of stamina"
umbral portal
final boss?
umbral portal
where you at
umbral portal
Oh her
frozen olive
||gods damn it Leda, you bitch, i even killed Hornsent for you||
||oh cool! i get to summon Ansbach and Thiollier||
umbral portal
||That's because they're your friends :)||
frozen olive
holy shit
that was a fucking ||jumping like i ain't EVER seen||
||Leda didn't stand a shadow of a chance of winning against me, Ansbach, Thiollier and Dung Eater||
though
||Moore 😭 ||
||"Sad forever? 😭 ||
umbral portal
||Poor moore||
frozen olive
||Why is it always friend?, behold, sadness!||
jaunty solar
They don't even ||say his name||
umbral portal
||Onto the end, Freyja||
frozen olive
They don't even ||say his name||
||yeah 😭 ||
umbral portal
||Honestly I'm just glad some of the characters survive the DLC. I expected them all to die in tragic ways||
jaunty solar
||Get them, Dryleaf Dane and that guy||
frozen olive
||Get them, Dryleaf Dane and that guy||
||fucking Leda...||
jaunty solar
||Leda is the third worst Griffith in the story||
I mean in terms of quality
Just a poor performer
Only just outranking the Evergaol knight you hunt with Blaidd
grave plinth
||Leda is the third worst Griffith in the story||
Honestly i get more of a ||Farnese|| vibe from her
junior spade
They don't even ||say his name||
||i think its cuz it can be variable on who it is? i ended up fighting freyja here instead of moore||
frozen olive
i found the weapon i want to fight ||Hoarah Loux with||
grave plinth
Pre-character development ||Farnese|| that is
frozen olive
||Danes footwork, time for MARTIAL ARTS||
||going to throw hands with the GOAT himself||
limpid peak
Bayle has nukes, apparently
frozen olive
||do you not get the rest of Leda's armor?||
umbral portal
||Not that I could find||
limpid peak
you do
frozen olive
huh
limpid peak
uh, up on a cliff over the starting area
||her chest piece is the only different piece of the set||
steel scroll
Leda ||kicked out of the Bad Bitches™️ club for immediately reaching for hate crimes upon regaining free will.||
frozen olive
||what is the set called?||
limpid peak
Oathseeker Knight
steel scroll
actuall y it just hit me that literally the first thought leda had after ||the rune broke was "who can i justify killing today?" lady what's your problem||
frozen olive
||this seems very much like a place to fight a final boss huh||
umbral portal
||Let us know what you think Freyja||
frozen olive
||this final site of grace is called "divine gate front staircase, seems like this is where we confront Miquella||
need to see if my friend is online
wanted to talk to him while i do it
umbral portal
||I think you can summon the two who helped you against Leda for the fight actually||
||at least, I can summon Ansbach||
vivid spire
YOO
||Fire Knight Seal||
Can someone tell me if there’s a seal for ||Miquellas incantations||
frozen olive
there is
limpid peak
||Dryleaf Seal||
frozen olive
correct
limpid peak
oh, I'm struggling against Bayle
junior spade
actuall y it just hit me that literally the first thought leda had after ||the r...
||theres dialogue post-messmer where she says something like "i find that i dont trust anyone" or smth like that||
grave plinth
actuall y it just hit me that literally the first thought leda had after ||the r...
||She’s also implied to have killed all the other Needle Knights of her order in a fit of self-righteous paranoia||
frozen olive
||She’s also implied to have killed all the other Needle Knights of her order in...
||i feel bad for helping her kill Hornsent||
vivid spire
Also all of the Marika statues are.. decapitated?
umbral portal
Yes
frozen olive
yes, yes they are!
umbral portal
||Also Hornsent was a bit sus himself but like. These guys literally crusaded and pillaged all over his land and genocides his people. I understand it.||
junior spade
Summoning Hornsent for ||Messmer|| felt really good
mellow silo
||what's the Hornsents deal anyways. Is he from Belurat?||
umbral portal
||Hornsents is the name of the people native to the Lands of Shadow. Dunno why the character's name is also hornsent though||
||Marika ordered Messmer to go into the Lands of Shadow and effectively commit genocide||
junior spade
||so from what i gather, yeah, and Messmer killed them all in his inquisition because they were outside the Golden Order; its like how the Dancing Lion is a fake version of what was once a real sacred beast thats now dead||
||Messmer himself is fascinating ||
umbral portal
||Marika also fucked over Messmer yeah. She engineered things so that the hated of everyone would fall on Messmer, not Marika, and Messmer himself was also a threat to her order||
vivid spire
OH SHIT
umbral portal
||Due to literally having a Serpent within him||
vivid spire
||SCADUTREE AVATAR||
mellow silo
||good luck with the sunflower||
grave plinth
||Marika also fucked over Messmer yeah. She engineered things so that the hated ...
||he seems to hold a complex blend of love snd hate for his mother, desperately craving her approval while resenting her for using him as a scapegoat ||
mystic charm
R8 my drip
umbral portal
||Ironically Marika is from the Lands of Shadow, so it may also be a level of "getting revenge"||
umbral portal
||he seems to hold a complex blend of love snd hate for his mother, desperately ...
And yeah, roughly
mellow silo
Helmet color doesn't fit armor color, otherwise cool. 7/10
grave plinth
||he’s also implied to be a bastard child of some sort, which raises the question of who’s the father||
||Messmer might be Melina’s full brother||
umbral portal
||Marika was from Shaman Village, and people from the Lands of Shadow made the Shamans into those living jar things. Which would explain why Marika wanted revenge of sorts, even if it was massively overblown||
limpid peak
||Are we not sure it's Radagon? Red hair, cursed with flame?||
mellow silo
||maybe some relation to Rykard?||
umbral portal
||My personal guess is the father is a Fire Giant||
vivid spire
Yall im scared for ||Leda||
umbral portal
||As the Fire Giants notably all had Red Hair, like Messmer||
vivid spire
Her faith is turning into|| blind rage||
grave plinth
||Marika was from Shaman Village, and people from the Lands of Shadow made the S...
|| She also seems to have wanted to obscure the Land of Shadow’s native connections with the crucible and methods of apotheosis independent of the Erdtree/Golden Order||
limpid peak
||As the Fire Giants notably all had Red Hair, like Messmer||
||So did Radagon and Malenia, it's a curse of the fire giants that Radagon carries||
real shadow
I have a very fiery STR FTH that needs this
It's in ||Shadow Keep, behind the giant Marika statue. Note it boosts Messmer fire incantations.||
vivid spire
Idk I like her as a character also pretty but I am nervous
This is like the first fromsoft game with a ton of friendly characters altogether helping you
umbral portal
||I knew Marika was questionable at best prior to the DLC, but by god this DLC makes her into a full blown villain||
steel scroll
i forget if the base game explains why marika smashed the ring
(and why radagon was against that)
umbral portal
She disliked the Greater Will
grave plinth
So, what ||The Crucible appears to be is that its the Elden Ring world’s “native” outer god, that the Erdtree is drawing power from, as opposed to the Greater Will which is an outer god in the sense of being from outside the world||
limpid peak
what do we know about ||Marika's origins|| now?
umbral portal
what do we know about ||Marika's origins|| now?
||See the post I'm about to bump||
frail ferry
we found her viillage
umbral portal
||Marika was from Shaman Village, and people from the Lands of Shadow made the S...
.
steel scroll
god, ||shaman village affected me.||
limpid peak
where did we find that out, did I miss an item description
umbral portal
||In Shaman Village and Bonney Village, we have a strong implication she's from the Shaman Village||
||Notably the Hair Braid in Shaman Village||
umbral portal
god, ||shaman village affected me.||
And yeah it has a beautiful vibe
steel scroll
||i double-checked and they dont look anything alike but for a while i was convinced the dancing lion head was godfrey's lion's corporeal body||
frail ferry
the ||minor erdtree|| description is pretty blatant about it
junior spade
||I knew Marika was questionable at best prior to the DLC, but by *god* this DLC...
im having the opposite reaction haha
umbral portal
Also ||What are the Eye Things jn the Abyss. They're very spooky||
steel scroll
the ||aged untouchables?||
umbral portal
||The things you can't damage that kill you when they see you||
junior spade
||i double-checked and they dont look anything alike but for a while i was convi...
||I do think its on purpose that many of the bosses mirror dynamics in the base game; Godrick and the Dancing Lion are both grafted "lions", the second boss are Carian royalty, etc etc||
steel scroll
||I do think its on purpose that many of the bosses mirror dynamics in the base ...
the ||scarlet rot boss also kinda just Being There™️||
junior spade
the ||scarlet rot boss also kinda just Being There™️||
||oh that one has my lore brain really stirring around, her remembrance/items are Very Neat||
umbral portal
||we also see the Mother of the Two Fingers, which is neat. And a Lord of the Frenzied Flame (that isn't the player||
steel scroll
speaking of, ||the lord of frenzy might actually be the ultimate zanzibart guy||
junior spade
its me im in that image
steel scroll
are you ||myrmidon of loss, zanzibart, Youtubers, or the forbidden Sam Winkler||
junior spade
but yeah if anything the dlc has softened my views of ||Marika|| by a lot
junior spade
are you ||myrmidon of loss, zanzibart, Youtubers, or the forbidden Sam Winkler||
im ||youtuber||
grave plinth
but yeah if anything the dlc has softened my views of ||Marika|| by a lot
its having the opposite effect on me funnily enough
junior spade
I think I'm just reading it more tragically myself
that said maybe i havent found everything!
theres still things to explore
steel scroll
i'd ||probably try to burn down a society that assigned me hamburger meat at birth||
||i was unsure if the hornsent were the same guys jarring people but i just remembered belarus has its own jar jail underneath it. of course it's them||
junior spade
||jarring itself is fascinating because its like... was it always like this, or was it bastardized? ||
steel scroll
||presumably the jars are... somehow useful to the hornsent? since they're referred to as 'saints'||
im also just bewildered (in a good way) that ||jars are fucking LORE INTEGRAL now.||
vivid spire
Got ||Fire Serpent||
atomic jetty
Elden Ring (DLC hype room)
atomic jetty
im only several days late lol
junior spade
instead of ign, have you tried the wiki
limpid peak
||Messmer's||
vivid spire
instead of ign, have you tried the wiki
Oh
junior spade
i know personally ive found 2 seals and had a chance at another via boss soul
one for miquella incants, another for spiral? incantations?
limpid peak
one for Messmer incants
vivid spire
Hmm idk
I don’t know what category multilayered rings lies under
I have 10 sadutree blessings but ||Romina|| is wiping the floor with me
What worked on ||Romina|| yall
I’m out of ideas
vivid spire
I can’t summon anything
I’ve been fighting her five times
Only available summon is ||Dane||
junior spade
I first tried her so i dont have much advice sadly
you dont have like uuuuh mimic tear?
tranquil copper
ash summons have a delay on being able to be used after stepping into most arenas that if you get caught during will make you do the head scratch anim
vivid spire
She’s so fast
tranquil copper
also that boss is ||very status resistant, but reasonably weak to fire and presumably holy (didn't try the second). If you have any faith put on a Flame Art weapon, if not just use regular Fire Weapon and you should roll her p hard||
yeah let her come to you
she puts herself in range for most of your attacks v easily if you keep her near the door, the camera can be not great sometimes but just be like E/W of the door or generally with the door to your left/right depending on corner she's in and she's very manageable
vivid spire
There’s a one second delay for my casting
it is just enough for her to kill me just as I roll away
):
tranquil copper
mmm opaline tear in the physick so you can get a free summon?
I had to do that for the final boss
just bc it was aggravating fishing for a pattern where I wasn't immediately divebombed upon stepping in the door
tranquil copper
the combo at the end you're trying to run rather than roll through it it looks like from that. Also whats in your wondrous physick?
bc you don't appear to have used it in that clip and its really fucked up strong for the most part so most people prebuff before going in
bc with a few exceptions the buffs are 2 to 6m
tranquil copper
oke gimme 2s to get to a grace bc I have some recs to run instead of those for prebuffing - mainly bc you can get a lot more mileage out of em for a quicker kill. You don't look like you're having survivability issues so much as getting clipped by a combo then taking it so I'd rec either a shield (higher stability is better) or to try rolling more off some of those hits because that boss loves being a beyblade
flame-shrouding and holy-shroud from base game are both good, from your setup there flame looks better in this case.
Opaline Bubble Tear from basegame is generally good for the dlc as it gives a flat 7 to all %mit across the board for a reasonably long time, Crimsonburst Dried from the DLC (one of the furnace giants idr where) is slightly improved Tears of Denial in the physick - so a revive if you would die and its the only health one I'd rec running.
If you really need stamina then Greenburst is better than Greenspill in this case (regen rather than max amt)
avoid the base cerulean/crimson tears (the half FP/HP ones) unless you're using it for exploration bc 9/10 times they're a waste vs any other option in a boss fight (can bring meat dumplings and boli, the new divine blessing thing, etc. and your base flask should be about 1/3rd to half hp heal by default), crimsonspill for the same reason
idr what malenias rune does off the top of my head (dont have it on me just went into a new cycle) but if it has a debuff to your flask while you have it on regardless of whether its active I'd swap it for something else
vivid spire
That’s Radhans rune
tranquil copper
my b, I'm mildly brain rotted bc I basically have only ever had no rune/godricks rune on
steel scroll
the dlc has greatshield-pilled me
tranquil copper
deflecting tear my beloved
mellow silo
The DLC has Collosal Weapon-pilled me
I'm having so much fun with the Fire Knight Greatsword
It's like the Zweihander but with more drip
Just wish Pulley Crossbow was more useful to me
Repeating Crossbow is nice but so ridiculously clunky it's not worth using
glossy delta
||presumably the jars are... somehow useful to the hornsent? since they're refer...
Well, ||the jars we meet that actually talk to us are pretty nice||
I figure the idea is ||they take their criminals (and other undesirables, such as the shamans) and reprocess them into the jars, who are functioning members of society (in their eyes)||
Like brainwashing but even more horrible
mellow silo
Repeating Crossbow is so tough to use I swear
Have to switch off my main weapon, target lock, hold down the Ash Of War button, and then click fire. And at the point the enemy has moved so all my shots miss anyways, and it eats a third of my FP
glossy delta
It definitely seems like a fight starter
Unload, apply a status, switch to another weapon
mellow silo
As opposed to pulley crossbow that can be held on offhand and just fired with one button press
winged stirrup
mellow silo
Can I summon a clone of myself to get a few extra hits on my boss?
glossy delta
................I just realized
Since I'm using the carian thrusting shield with standard infusion for its better block
.....I can put scholars shield on it
mellow silo
Just got summoned at the first Leyndell grace for some fuckin reason
I'm level 162
Was a nice break though, got to just annihilate everything
junior spade
yeah i had to go back to base game to get some smithing stone stuff and i was like "woah everything dies now"
frozen olive
fr
steel scroll
me clearing fire giant after 100%ing the dlc (cw for blood)
mellow silo
Messmer still kicking my ass 
real shadow
First off, Romina? Wife.
Second off, 3 tries and she was down.
Coulda taken her first try if she bothered to stay still.
old brook
Y'all at the final boss I'm still like 1/5th of the way through Atlus, more power to ya
umbral portal
||what the FUCK||
What're your thoughts on them?
frozen olive
my thoughts are uh
||what the FUCK||
||this shit is premium difficult||
||absolutely fucked up type beat||
umbral portal
||It is, I actually just beat them||
frozen olive
||when the second phase hits and they just pulls out the fucking malenia soul clones and starts doing mass AoE||
||what the FUCK||
umbral portal
||Radahn got hands||
frozen olive
||the fact that Radahn fucking heals for the second phase too, obscene||
glossy delta
OMG
Just reached (location and lore spoilers) ||Jagged Peak||
||The 'lesser' dragons being the descendants of Dragon Judas, and Dragon Communion starting as a way for the Ancient Dragons to punish Bayle's bloodline, is cool||
||And neatly explains how Dragon Communion never does anything with the Ancient Dragons, the ones still loyal to Placidusax||
junior spade
yeah!!
junior spade
also i know its a fromsoft meme of sorts but (boss spoilers) ||his title being simply "Bayle the Dread" is so scary, simple-named bosses are so spooky||
frozen olive
(final boss spoilers)||we've finally got a boss that dethrones Malenia and it's not even close||
||i genuinely have no idea how i am going to win this||
||nothing i do does any real damage and there are like, no opportunities to attack||
||the waiting time for the summons is also kinda annoying||
frail ferry
is it time to parry
vivid spire
just found the Smithscript Spear
Int/Fai might be fun
old brook
I wonder how the Smith weapons do with status
frozen olive
(final boss)||this fight is so incredibly hard jeez||
junior spade
good question, ive never been caster brained so i cant weigh in
steel scroll
who do i run over with a truck first tomorrow. ||dragon, messmer, guy fieri, scorpion||
junior spade
who do i run over with a truck first tomorrow. ||dragon, messmer, guy fieri, sco...
||diners drive-ins and THE ABYSS||
vivid spire
Hit them where they’re weakest doesn’t make sense
steel scroll
||they have a literal bright red weak spot.||
mellow silo
Anyone know the best place to farm Black Pyreflies?
steel scroll
||diners drive-ins and THE ABYSS||
i do not want to be taken to flavour town. the goats are staring at me.
junior spade
i do not want to be taken to flavour town. the goats are staring at me.
I still think this was my favorite area from the dlc as far as Successful Flavor
||when my fucking horse refused to come back out i was hooting and hollering||
steel scroll
yeah its a banger. ||hey why can i see the sky in this crypt boss that's not supposed to ha- IS THAT THE FRENZIED FLAME!?||
twilit path
Guy fieri is from the town like 20m drive from where I work. LOCAL HERO GUY FIERI IS IN ELDEN RING??
(I don't know the context I am trying to not click spoilers but the Curiosity...)
steel scroll
flavour town is a magical place where the game shifts genre for a while then you find possibly the corniest boss setup in the game
twilit path
Just like Guy woulda wanted
vivid spire
||they have a literal bright red weak spot.||
Damage is lackluster
umbral portal
flavour town is a magical place where the game shifts genre for a while then you...
Worth it
vestal night
Damage is lackluster
Hit the weakspot, stagger, backstab, repeat
tropic stream
@frozen olive location spoilers
I CAN SEE IT
I CAN SEE IT
BUT IT REMAINS BEYOND MY REACH
THE PAIN
tropic stream
looks up video
Oh
Oh that's all I had to do to get to Ellac River
(for context I have spent the last day and a half of my time playing Elden Ring finding a route to get to Ellac River that took me through ||Jagged Peak, the Finger Ruins of Rhia, Charo's Hidden Grave, and the Cerulean Coast|| and you're telling me all I had to do was hoof it through one cave????)
limpid peak
okay, confirmed to be a bug
the flame ashes of war on the smithscript spear work for some people, but not others
mellow silo
Where farm Black Pyreflies
limpid peak
there's a burned settlement near where you start that has a few easy ones I think, don't know enough to say what the best spot is
tropic stream
I'm still rly proud of my drip
Just amazing 'I'm in a dress but I'll kick your ass' vibes
tropic stream
Bog-standard warrior gauntlets
mellow silo
Might have to pick those up
tropic stream
The nomadic merchant by Raya Lucaria sells the warrior set
tropic stream
Dane's hat is good
I just cannot fit it with anything
I may try to farm the silver chain set and see if it works
junior spade
yesssssssss I beat (jagged peak) ||Bayle with Igon's help holy shit what a bro||
tropic stream
for my current drip
junior spade
i wish i could do that, but ive got the bloody eyes
mellow silo
Same here. Doesnt the most recently acquired overwrite anything else?
limpid peak
mellow silo
Wait the frenzy Eyes are the bottom???
junior spade
i always see both ways listed online haha maybe im not a good source for this
mellow silo
That's odd
glossy delta
I assume the frenzy eyes are top priority
limpid peak
I think Frenzy Eyes might be top, yeah
mellow silo
Wonder if the DLC has any eye alterations
Hopefully my DLC chonk can carry me through the sewer
junior spade
any good dlc faith weapons people really like? can be str/dex/whatever else
mellow silo
I'm going with the Fire Knight Greatsword and it's going pretty good
Pretty much the Zweihander but Faith Scaling and cooler looking
mellow silo
Farmed from a Fire Knight down the elevator from Specimen Storage First Floor grace
vestal night
frenzy eyes -> dragon eyes -> bloody eyes
the blood eyes definitely overwrite dragon, because I have that rn
don't know about frenzy though
tropic stream
Go kill enough dragons to get the Draconic Eyes
I did on accident and I lowkey hate it
mellow silo
You can turn them off
The issue is, you can only toggle between "completely off" and "whichever eye you have that's the highest priority"
You can't switch between if you have multiple
vivid spire
Yall
I can’t get the Putrescent Knight
I die immediately
I have ten Saudtree Fragments
But I just die instantly it’s too fast
tropic stream
You can turn them off
How?
frozen olive
what summon
vivid spire
Tiche
vivid spire
I’ve been doing multiplayer
But they always spawn in later
God this is a struggle
I just can’t get the patterns
tranquil copper
dung eater or mimic tear work great for the fight, pop physick/other longer buffs before the drop down then immediately pop your ash on entry, you have enough time after to chug a quick flask if needed before the fight proper begins. Are there any particular patterns you'd like advice on?
junior spade
multiplayer also inflates boss health
tranquil copper
^
multiplayers only good if the phantom is able to outpace the additional scaling the boss gets which is rough in the dlc
junior spade
or if you guys have roles, when ive been summoned ive been abusing my build to be the Tank for casters
tranquil copper
aggros been super finnecky on bosses in general (player summons or ash summons) so your mileage will vary on that front
dusty kraken
Never been 100% sure: Do NPC golden summons count as multiplayer for scaling?
tranquil copper
not even that I mean like, some of them immediately turn for you if you do 1 really light hit, and some completely ignore you after you get a full combo off
tranquil copper
Never been 100% sure: Do NPC golden summons count as multiplayer for scaling?
yes
tranquil copper
huh that's news to me, but makes sense for ||messmer|| and ||bayle||
junior spade
yeah its why they're Actually Useful
tranquil copper
bc I didn't notice anything particularly nasty with them but I really REALLY felt it with final boss
junior spade
oh theres outside summons there? neat. i havent gotten there
mellow silo
How?
In the character editor mirror, in the Eyes section, there's a toggle for eye alterations
Also, Mogh destroyed
tranquil copper
oh theres outside summons there? neat. i havent gotten there
depends what you did so far with the rest, sorry for the minor spoiler
junior spade
no problem i am in the spoiler thread, it happens sometimes
vivid spire
Uuugh
Why can’t I summon cooperators ever
Is everyone snatched away by people as soon as the sign goes down
junior spade
i imagine a lot of people get summoned Immediately
tranquil copper
Is everyone snatched away by people as soon as the sign goes down
yes
junior spade
plus some new dlc connection woes mixed in
tranquil copper
its a hotspot in the first 2-3 days of the dlc, lots of people going through all the time
actually how does the summon pool work? I might be able to be summoned in if we use password summoning at the pool
junior spade
thats what ive been doing for folk here
tranquil copper
dont have the dlc on this char (just cycled into ng+1) so if I need to be in the dlc period for it it wont work but like
its worth a try
mellow silo
Password summoning works
junior spade
dont think itll work w/out the dlc tho
tranquil copper
blegh I dont want to speedrun mohg. I'll see if password summoning at the pool works tho bc they supposedly reworked that
junior spade
oh if you own the dlc it should work...? maybe?
tranquil copper
yeah I own the dlc im just not physically in it
worth a shot at least ig, @vivid spire what pw do you want to try using to get a match together
I'll prep my weapons in the meantime, builds v diff from when I fought it but should work fine
tranquil copper
ah
vivid spire
Player base is already small so everyone gets snatched away
I can’t get anything done
Between ||Romina|| ||Messmer|| and the ||Scadutree Avatar||
mellow silo
Getting burnt rn
tranquil copper
Between ||Romina|| ||Messmer|| and the ||Scadutree Avatar||
oh I can actually offer good advice for the third at least
2s lemme get the incants page open so I dont give you wrong info
mellow silo
Frenzy Eyes acquired
vivid spire
I wish I had the foresight to get ER on my laptop
I knew I shouldn’t have gotten it for console because my friends all said nobody plays on consoles anymore
They turned out to be correct
mellow silo
||how do you even get to Romina anyways?||
vivid spire
But I don’t wanna buy the game again
tranquil copper
ok so: spells wise slot in Scouring Black Flame, Giantsflame Take Thee, and Flame of the Fell God (all base game spells, substitute giantsflame take the for fireball or equiv if you don't have it). In the Physick put in the flame-shroud tear from base game and a survivability tear of your choice (I like opaline hardtear personally but bubble tears a good one too or anything you feel comfy with), charms you want just faster castspeed stuff - nothing that makes you take more damage when hit.
Put mimic tear on as your ash summon for this fight (it takes your spells with it and can do more of them). Prep a Fire or Flame Art straightsword/katana - something with a fast ish moveset that you can get like 3 hits in with in a small window and that can do ripostes
mellow silo
DRIP
tranquil copper
aim for the head when possible (classic), and when ||it dies after you riposte it setup a Flame of the Fell God for a free spawn camp massive damage||
with 40 faith and a +9 Golden Order Seal I was dishing out around 3k per Scouring (not including the DoT) and 6 to 9k per Fell God (depending on how close it impacted and where the boss stood after). The Giantsflame take thee is what I wish I had to round it out but it was very very manageable like that
tranquil copper
||how do you even get to Romina anyways?||
||from the shadowkeep specimen storage room take the west exit on the first floor, once you go through jar infirmary there'll be a very long bridge, cross that and you're in the area just get to the end of the area||
tropic stream
Okay question
How do I location spoilers ||get to Rauh and the Scorpion River Catacombs?||
vivid spire
with 40 faith and a +9 Golden Order Seal I was dishing out around 3k per Scourin...
Ok I’ll try that
I immediately died in second phase
tranquil copper
How do I location spoilers ||get to Rauh and the Scorpion River Catacombs?||
||Rauh|| I mentioned above in response to mouse, ||Scorpion River Catacombs|| you have to ||come in from the South of it, idr the exact route at this point and don't have a map to go show the route but you come in from this weird little crevice in Eastern Scadu Altus into a long lower bit that you then traverse to the West to get towards Rauh. load of stuff along that route||
vivid spire
It just feels like I’m bashing my head against the wall
And all my friends ditched this game so I don’t have any help
real shadow
Damn, ||Ragulia got the right to bear arms.||
tranquil copper
I immediately died in second phase
yeah the ||dashes it spams on 2nd phase are rough - lot larger than vordt and there's some overlapping hitboxes going on like with C. G. I'm p sure - initials in case you haven't fought him yet||
vivid spire
Hmm no
I’ll go back to Romina
Maybe illl make progress??
Idk I’m struggling with the map too I can’t find ways to get to new areas
tranquil copper
if you havent got runes on you it might be worth just stopping aggression for a bit and tinkering with figuring out the attack patterns
I had to do that with final boss for around 4 hours to get to a working strategy that I could execute consistently for a kill
tropic stream
||from the shadowkeep specimen storage room take the west exit on the first floo...
Is this the way to ||Rauh|| as well?
tranquil copper
Is this the way to ||Rauh|| as well?
||iirc yes? I'll double check just to make sure I'm not misremembering without the map in front of me rn 2s||
tranquil copper
Is this the way to ||Rauh|| as well?
ok yeah just checked it is
also huh cant believe I missed that, looking forward to getting that next time I go through
gosh so much stuff I missed by the skin of my teeth
frozen olive
trying to fight ||Death Rite bird in charo's grave and it really fucking blows||
||there are gravebirds fucking everywhere so it's an absolutely dogshit arena||
real shadow
Yeah I hated that area. I guess you could pick the birds off one by one but it's still more annoying than it really needs to be.
tranquil copper
||there are gravebirds fucking everywhere so it's an absolutely dogshit arena||
mm question because thats one I deliberately avoided because I couldn't be arsed - does it ||spawn at all times of day or night only? If its all times of day it doesn't matter but if its night only like the rest while annoying you could clean the area out in the day time and then wait till night to fight it||
vivid spire
Is there a seal that scales with all incantations
tranquil copper
Is there a seal that scales with all incantations
all seals scale well for all incantations some just have extra bonuses
e.g. beastial seal or w/e its called from base game gets a bonus to beast incants specifically, and while the one i mentioned gets bonuses for the type of incants it listed it also boasts one of the highest scalars in the game
so it works just fine for basically anything
vivid spire
What about Golden Order
tranquil copper
how much faith/int do you have? I'm checking out the scaling calc bc I don't have all of them upgraded and lack casting stats atm
frozen olive
mm question because thats one I deliberately avoided because I couldn't be arsed...
||both||
vivid spire
how much faith/int do you have? I'm checking out the scaling calc bc I don't hav...
60 faith
9 int
frozen olive
Is there a seal that scales with all incantations
whatever incantation scales the best with your stats
that's it
whichever seal has this number the highest is best
tranquil copper
60 faith
if you meet the reqs for golden order it shouldn't be bad, basic finger seal should be more than enough though when maxed out
frozen olive
some seals also give percentage bonuses to certain spells
vivid spire
I’ve been using gravel stone and erdtree
frozen olive
such as the Gravel Stone seal i use which boosts dragon cult incantations
tranquil copper
also yeah what freyjas saying now is what I tried saying before
you care most about the incant scaling than anything else, the mults are nice but far from necessary
frozen olive
i'm using it because i'm using a dragon cult incantation as my main dps
so that damage bonus is really nice
tranquil copper
mhm
frozen olive
plus i have good scaling with it
tranquil copper
if you're using a mixed set of spells though you care most about the incant scaling o7
old brook
I'm using Dragon Communion because: Red, also Faith/Arcane
But Red was the initial reason
frozen olive
technically clawmark seal is the best one for me
but i don't use beast incantations
tranquil copper
from your stat lineup though Finger Seal is most likely the best, unless you have some arcane on you in which case dragon communion comes out best
frozen olive
and i DO use Dragon Cult and Frenzy flame incantations
so it's better for me to use those seals
since the scaling isn't far off
tranquil copper
specifically if you have 29 Arc and 60 Faith then Dragon Communion comes out better
frozen olive
i have 274 on frenzy, 282 on gravel stone and 290 on clawmark
tranquil copper
otherwise just use basic Finger Seal
frozen olive
which means for me that using the gravel stone and frenzy flame seals to cast their incantations is just better
tranquil copper
first scren is 60 faith 28 arcane, second is 29 arcane still 60 faith. More Arcane more numbers
vivid spire
I'm using Dragon Communion because: Red, also Faith/Arcane
I’ll do that for this boss since ||Romina|| is weak to blood and that’s mainly arcane
vestal night
does tree blessings have any effect on spell scaling and/or spell damage btw?
mellow silo
||is that another fucking hippo||
tranquil copper
does tree blessings have any effect on spell scaling and/or spell damage btw?
yes
vestal night
okay good
I wasn't sure, because I don't think my sorc scaling changed any
tranquil copper
they very much do I was hitting like a wet noodle on start and by the time I hit the bosses they're up against now I was hitting noticeably harder
tranquil copper
okay good
I wasn't sure, because I don't think my sorc scaling changed any
a lot of bosses and a good chunk of enemies are VERY magic resistant in the dlc.
tranquil copper
||is that another fucking hippo||
that was ||the 4th one I found when I reached it lmao, including the boss one tbf||
mellow silo
||Are the wild hippos as bad as the boss hippo||
vestal night
a lot of bosses and a good chunk of enemies are VERY magic resistant in the dlc.
as is tradition for FROM DLC lmao
I'm mostly using Rock Sling still
junior spade
wooooo finally killed the (boss, tree)||Scadutree Avatar by respeccing into flame art stuff for Big Fire and got BIG LORE ITEM||
tranquil copper
||Are the wild hippos as bad as the boss hippo||
no absolutely not
tranquil copper
as is tradition for FROM DLC lmao
not wrong, although iirc DS3's 2nd dlc didn't have that as a thing
with the exception of 1 boss
tranquil copper
wooooo finally killed the (boss, tree)||Scadutree Avatar by respeccing into flam...
yea its really fun once you find out just ||how flammable it really is||
vivid spire
Romina should be easy
junior spade
you got thiiiiis
vivid spire
I left a ton of help discords because the idea of someone being bad at souls was alien to people
I can almost see a predictable rhythm
I got super close this time
But oh well
tranquil copper
Romina should be easy
I mean yesn't? Like she has some of the most reasonably patterns for this dlc but that doesn't make her easy easy?
tranquil copper
I found her pretty fun but I can also see some very noticeable issues with a few moves that will trip people
vivid spire
Dane draws Aggro that is his only redeeming quality
Man was unhelpful in the extreme
tranquil copper
namely ||her turning herself into a bonewheel|| and how fast from the "im about to do it" tell that ||the skypierce attack|| has
vivid spire
That trips me up
tranquil copper
didnt try it at the time bc I just kind of face tanked it - but what happens on blocking the latter?
the former SHOULD be fine to just face tank even at a lower scadutree than I had but like, same deal
mainly asking bc neither has ||status buildup tied to it|| and they both ||seem very hard/outright impossible to dodge - the latter I can see as technically feasible but very annoying, the former just doesn't work||
oh actually thinking on it
vestal night
Depending on how high your scadu blessing is, going around looking for a few more fragments could also help
A few levels can increase your resistances a good bit
tranquil copper
the latter is probably that one ash of war I found
so dont get hit by it if ||you have rot/poison on you, it'll do extra damage then||
vivid spire
My Scadu is 10
tranquil copper
Depending on how high your scadu blessing is, going around looking for a few mor...
this, 1 level of scadu blessing is a 7% increase to your DR
vivid spire
I spent a ton of yesterday hunting for fragments and got 10 total
I don’t wanna be roadblocked anymore so I’m going to beat the bosses
tranquil copper
will say, the bosses you're on atm I was in the 12 to 16 region for them respectively
old brook
I still don't know how you guys are far enough to get roadblocked
tranquil copper
wide spread because I explored waaayyyyy off to the sides first
old brook
There's so much stuff out here
vivid spire
The wiki says 10 recommended
tranquil copper
and a lot of scadu blessings are in weird places like random camps
vivid spire
Yeah but like
tranquil copper
The wiki says 10 recommended
if its fextralife they are not trustworthy
tranquil copper
they have stuff to give you general directions but never take them at face value