I meant more the latter but, yeah
#Elden Ring (DLC hype room)
umbral portal
vivid spire
..I found another site of grace
Maybe there’s a way around
Ah well I’ll play something else
rich lintel
hoooooooly shit ||rellana dies so fast to wind stance||
literally jumping over her and staggering her
vivid spire
Was she your roadblock too
umbral portal
I beat her second try but I got lucky
vivid spire
Whay did you use
umbral portal
Blasphemous Blade and Dragon Incantations
rich lintel
based
umbral portal
Though I think the more you dwell on it Scribble the more frustrating its gonna be fkr yiu
And with that I head to bed
stone cove
Please just put the game down and take a break
it's actually getting somewhat disturbing to see you obsseing and gettingupset
umbral portal
Yeah
rich lintel
ah jesus how the hell do you ||not get murdered immediately by the 5 laser slash move||
umbral portal
Tank it
rich lintel
i'm too weak
umbral portal
Anyways I'm using her swords
rich lintel
maybe the wing stance jump can do it
rich lintel
They're twin light greatswords
i assume dex/int?
umbral portal
Yep
rich lintel
jesus
rich lintel
is the scaling identical for all of them?
glossy delta
Yeah its a sword of night and flame situation
umbral portal
Stab things very fast
umbral portal
You can also use some of Renalla's moves
stone cove
they have quality scaling across the board
rich lintel
baller
stone cove
CCCC when fully upgraded
glossy delta
Might be a fun build honestly
There's the frenzied flame talisman and then you can get one of the int/faith staffs
rich lintel
i should fs hit up the carian knight drip
umbral portal
Currently rocking the ||Guts armor||
glossy delta
ALSO ACK
ACK ACK
iTS TIIIIIIIIIIIIME
WGENONGREO;OEIRPEBM
rich lintel
Currently rocking the ||Guts armor||
||solitude?||
stone cove
at a guess, if they're like other swords - STR/DEX will increase the physical damage, INt will increase the magic, and faith the fire
vivid spire
Oh shit there's multi stat weapons
umbral portal
||solitude?||
||Whatever you get from the Gaol Knight guy||
rich lintel
||Whatever you get from the Gaol Knight guy||
yeahhh that one's fire
rocking the milady with it for that color matching
stone cove
It's also just really nicely tanky armor
rich lintel
true
stone cove
i'm only wearing the gloves and chest piece because it's too heavy otherwise
(and i am greedy and want my sword, and also my shield, and also my axe, and also my casting focus)
umbral portal
It's the only armor in the game that's both very cool looking and actually viable with Poise :v
At least that I've found
Currently in the ||ancient India inspired area, it looks very pretty||
stone cove
Also just incase you folks think i'm actually good at this game
i just ran at a well, failed to hit the button to get on the ladder
and fell to my death
umbral portal
Happens to the best of us
rich lintel
classic blunder
umbral portal
Also I fought a ||crucible knight||
rich lintel
at this point i'm just fucking around looking for cool stuff
glossy delta
Oh
Shit
All the wind just got taken out of my sails
I did a preload download of some sort yesterday buy
When the unlock timer finished it.... started a 9 gigabyte download 😑
vivid spire
This is me so far
Based lmao
I think i kinda rushed through it a bit fast
So I’ll sleep and return tomorrow
rich lintel
everything my eyes see i fuckin murder
umbral portal
I can't wait to see Vaati explain all the lore I'm missing
vivid spire
It’ll be more balanced
vivid spire
I can't wait to see Vaati explain all the lore I'm missing
I can kinda help with some of my theories
rich lintel
I can't wait to see Vaati explain all the lore I'm missing
oh god yeah
frail ferry
hello random person infront of my dlc gate
glossy delta
WAIT NO
||TOUCH WITHERED ARM||
||AND A NEW NPC||
WTF am I downloading then??????????
I think I am about to join you all gang
glossy delta
IM INNNNNN IQNOUEAR8I4E3WGIYE5GBIPWEF902Q3093RU8934
vivid spire
HAVE FUN
frail ferry
OH THE ||THE FIRE DUDE IS RIGHT THERE HUH||
umbral portal
Domain Expansion: Computer Crash
frail ferry
domain expansion: nuh uh
umbral portal
OH THE ||THE FIRE DUDE IS RIGHT THERE HUH||
||Tree Sentinel moment||
glossy delta
Honestly my PS4 is old as shit and my anxiety was telling me
'what if this is the day it hard dies'
frail ferry
"JUST ALITTLE LONGER HANG IN THERE OLD GIRL"
ah hell i may need to go and finally biuy the crafting kit
stone cove
Wing stance is just ridic
you can jump so many attacks with the heavy
and because it comes so fast from the stance, you can just prime the stance, wait
vivid spire
I need to level it but I don’t have normal stones
stone cove
and then STABBIN
stone cove
Like i jumped a fucking tree spirit tail slam
umbral portal
What's Wing Stance?
stone cove
Wing Stance is a new ash of war
vivid spire
It’s an ash of war
stone cove
it's for Light Greatswords
umbral portal
Ah, cool
frail ferry
is the fire dude grab a fuckin swirly
stone cove
you extend your blade out to one side, and then have two options:
R1 is a fast series of slashes, great for crowds (But poor poise while you're getting into the stance so you have to space properly)
R2 does a fast leap and stabbing thrust with heavy damage and heavy poise damage
Because it's a leap, it lets you jump a bunch of shit
and because it's a thrust, you get counter attack damage
vivid spire
Oh? You actually don’t immediately move into the ash!
that’s actually really useful!
stone cove
You can probably get some deeply absurd numbers out of it by stacking Spear Talisman + Shard of Alexander + Rellana's Cameo (New talisman, gives +20% damage after staying in a stance for 2s)
vivid spire
I’ve never tried a full melee ash build
Maybe I’ll mix it up but atm I’m out of stones
rich lintel
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT || TRIPLE HIT MOON ATTACK ||
stone cove
Maybe I’ll mix it up but atm I’m out of stones
Do you not have the bellbearings?
rich lintel
i was winning via tower shield gameplay and then immediately exploded
umbral portal
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT || TRIPLE HIT MOON ATTACK ||
||Biden Blast||
vivid spire
Do you not have the bellbearings?
I do but I ran out of runes
I gotta farm some more Moghwyn birds
vivid spire
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT || TRIPLE HIT MOON ATTACK ||
Wait it’s triple
For me it was double
vivid spire
Oh
I haven’t gotten that far
I’ll treat her as Rennala and Malenia smushed together
rich lintel
i have no idea how to dodge it ngl
umbral portal
i have no idea how to dodge it ngl
Gotta roll as soon as the wave passes over you
It's all about timing
vivid spire
Ohh
rich lintel
if i just hunker behind my tower shield i'll be fine i'm sure
either that or the invuln crystal tear
limpid peak
I think I jumped it once
vivid spire
Interesting
I’ll probably fix my armor and respec my build for a more hybrid one
Raw incantations seem lackluster but she moves fast so I can’t get a good grasp on my damage to her
Maybe vykes spear
Black knife seems less effective
I don’t know why yet
frail ferry
I CAN BUFF ||TORRENT||??????
vivid spire
I CAN BUFF ||TORRENT||??????
What
frail ferry
What
i just found some shit in a statue saying it can buff him and summons at graces
like golden seeds for the horse ig
vivid spire
Oooh fun
frail ferry
and a friendly pest man
stone cove
Clearly i need to go back and help epople and Renny
at*
becuase like i didnt see half of this shit
frail ferry
i just went down the big tunnel at the start and a sharp left after it
it dont talk
just gives some shit
rich lintel
aughhh i keep getting so close to killing her
my glorious turtle strat is almost carrying me
vivid spire
Is she hard for ya?
Try greatshield soldiers
That gives you a lot of extra shields
vivid spire
I tried that and it almost worked but my mimic is a caster
I think mimic is uhh… situational
vivid spire
Fun
Gnight have fun
Ping me if you beat her!
Also i apologize for getting stressed
Did not intend to at all
glossy delta
Well I was worried my level 200-something 80 dex 80 str NG+4 abomination would break the scaling for the DLC
It didn't
vivid spire
Are you still finding it a challenge?
tropic stream
My computer didn't preload the game
vivid spire
I’ve heard the scaling is more sekiro esq
glossy delta
I'm taking decent amounts of damage and not killing dudes instantly so yeah
Its been fun, feeling like I'm level 15 in limgrave again
vivid spire
you worded it well
My lvl 200 guy dealt less damage but my 145 guy dealt more
I think they anticipated people using their best characters
Actually now that I know it’s just the scaling
I feel better
Practice!
stone cove
Lion dancer is fun
glossy delta
Milady
Acquired 😌
Time for a brief dip out of the DLC to Pump This MFer Up
vivid spire
Lion dancer is fun
It’s so unique
I’m hopeful that its main talisman drop will have some really strong spells to use with it
limpid peak
ah, found the poison swamp
glossy delta
Oh weiiiiiiird
Milady has like
Fucky combo connections on its alt attacks
So like
Its basic light chain is 5 hits
If you do a light running attack, you do the special running attack, then do into attack 2 of the chain if you keep doing R1s
But is you heavy running attack, and do R1
You go to attack 4 of the chain
rich lintel
BOSS DOWN RAHHHHHH
glossy delta
And if you follow up a heavy with a light, it actually chains instead of akwardly stilting then going into attack 1 of the light chain
Seems like a very combo focused weapon, v v cool
rich lintel
it's really good with rotten sword
frozen olive
I have yet to fight any major bosses i think
vivid spire
I have my first lore theory
limpid peak
This is a weapon
vivid spire
The ||Lion Dancers are Grafted Omens.|| We know Miquella and the Haligtree searched for ways to cure Omens, but they found more luck in treating their affliction as normal to live around, and the ||Lion|| is clearly not a construct and has been elevated to celebratory status.
limpid peak
(a fist weapon)
vivid spire
I think I'm onto something but it could also have been blatantly obvious with the ||Horns|| and the ||limbs under the robe||
Anyways gnight yall
limpid peak
Found the Spelldrake Talisman +3 || It's under the Castle Front bridge ||
that should help with Rellana
frail ferry
WHY DOES THE LION HAVE ||FORTISAX LIGHTINING||
rich lintel
because it's funny
frail ferry
god i need more vigor
glossy delta
I think I'm onto something but it could also have been blatantly obvious with th...
I'm still trying to figure out the connection between ||omens, the hornsent, and the 'budding horn' stuff with the ancestral followers, if any||
I feel there must be something there but What
But I'm like
Halfway through Belurat so like
I won't have all the pieces right now anyway lol
frail ferry
omg why does the lion have better||fortisax lightning||
IT CAN ||CHANGE ELEMENTS????????????????||
rich lintel
what the fuck there's a || hippo in the castle||
limpid peak
does anyone know what's up with that valley to the north-west of Castle Ensis?
frail ferry
WHO GAVE IT HOARFROST STOMP
limpid peak
there are wooden bridges over it with enemies throwing pots, and I can't get to the ones on the top level
frail ferry
i found something about sealed spiritsprings
frail ferry
so if torrent is summonable try looking for a pile of rocks to knockdown
limpid peak
I read the same note, but I don't know what they look like
frail ferry
rock shaped
limpid peak
apparently it's a small cairn with wind around it
stone cove
Woo, i got Dryleaf martial arts
they're also quality
Though they also get A quality strength scaling with heavy
glossy delta
Holy doly
(Boss) ||the divine lion sure is hard to read||
||Its just kind of||
||flailing||
||and exploding||
limpid peak
wow, I thought Rellana blocked more than she did
just found a whole new area to explore
stone cove
Pretty sure she's optional, just a nice short cut to open up an area
rich lintel
Woo, i got Dryleaf martial arts
are they any good?
atomic jetty
what do the martial arts scale with?
limpid peak
quality
atomic jetty
gotcha
limpid peak
(str+dex)
glossy delta
Okay, (boss) ||divine lion|| down
(Area spoilers) ||BELURAT IS KICKASS||
||The look of it, the lore crumbs, everything||
||It really feels like a Lived In Place thats totally alien compared to the erdtree culture||
||Even the design for the elevator levers is different for gods sake||
stone cove
what do the martial arts scale with?
Quality, but if you put heavy on them they loose all Dex scaling and get A strength scaling. Keen only gives them B Dex scaling and doesn't knock strength as badly.
Standard they have C/C scaling, quality bumps that to B/B
Looks like they're going to be good with Fire, Magic, Lightning too
atomic jetty
im currently full heavy build (giant crusher)
might experiment with weapons when i start the dlc
glossy delta
(wild lore guessing) ||'o tower of ours, hidden in shadow, lofty spear piercing the heavens, lead him safely unto greater godhood'||
||Is miquella trying to become an OUTER God 🤔||
stone cove
He's just a fucky little guy
a real werido
(It's elden ring, they're all fucky little guys)
jaunty solar
Got the cool senpou hand to hand weapon from the trailer
And a cool light greatsword
Both with very cool movesets
I am very happy
stone cove
are they any good?
As to any good? Dunno? Seem to have very good stagger. Don't like the default WA, though it is a good FINISH THEM move ironically. Huge damage if you can get it off charged
Runnign heavy is a flying kick
jaunty solar
The big palm strike?
It's pretty good, lot of poise on it too
The jump heavy is some fluid kicks
glossy delta
||I'm told its chargable so I imagine you can do some sinful things with Radagon's Icon and Alexander's Shard||
jaunty solar
I think I can say with some certainty now that this DLC ||Does not in fact take place in the past||
stone cove
||I'm told its chargable so I imagine you can do some sinful things with Radagon...
It is, and you certian lcan. Just not convinced that's the best appraoch etc
You cannot buff or grease them whcih is a big let down 😦
jaunty solar
A problem I've had with the DLC so far is the ||boss arenas. The first two main bosses basically just fight in a featureless square arena||
limpid peak
are they worshipping the Formless Mother?
|| one of them definitely has something a lot like Mohg's spear ||
stone cove
I frogot hwo dumb the stupid magma worm fights are
they're not hard, they;'re hjust an obnoxious repetive hitbox
Oooh, nice, unique Great Katana
Quality too
glossy delta
I just beat (boss) ||Demihuman Swordsmaster Onze||
That's all I gotta say
I wonder how many people thought that was a Soldier Of Godrick at first
kind garden
Okay, beat (main boss) ||Rellana, Twin Moon Knight||
I AM A GOLDEN GOD OF PARRYING
that is all.
||https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aJ-yHgyB41XsP-TXlGR4P7TGXLVZyb8e/view?usp=sharing||
I cut and uploaded video of the fight to gdrive if anyone wants to see my strat
limpid peak
has anyone actually seen a supressed spirit spring yet? got the note from the first merchant and I haven't seen a single spirit spring at all
limpid peak
I am getting cross-map command grabbed by walking lampreys
in the weirdest area I've seen in a Fromsoft game
I need Vaati or someone to give me answers for this
glossy delta
Nearly first tried (boss) ||Relanna||
With Leda and Punished Dung Eater
I think I will sleep on this, cuz it is 3:30 AM
Also: Astonished she has ZERO fanfare
No dialogue, nothing
glossy delta
I guess Loretta was the same but she wasn't strictly unique
Used the same bones as the tree sentinel
limpid peak
ooh, found a talisman that makes magma better
nice, might be an idea for a run
swords and polearms (not collossal)
stone cove
`So, nice little thing with light greatswords: they really dig Blackflame blade
limpid peak
the ash of war or the incant?
stone cove
The incant
limpid peak
I've tried the incant a couple of times, but it seems too brief
ah, tragically you can't put Parry on Dryleaf Arts
limpid peak
Hewg saying "Lay out your arms then" is much funnier when he's upgrading your fists
old brook
random Q for folks in DLC, is Melina talking much? We're not currently on good terms in my save so idk if I'm missing out on stuff
stone cove
Absoloute zilch from her
seems to be they're sticking to the "This doesent influcne the main game" pretty heavily
old brook
ahh phew, good t'know
limpid peak
I'm hoping there'll be a Great Rune of X, for a different ending or something
mellow silo
Back on the Rellana Grind
Wait a second I went to sleep and y'all are still here. You guys have been playing for like 12 hours
limpid peak
oh yeah, wow
wait, what the hell?
I found one of the Imbued Sword Key towers
like in the Four Belfries
stone cove
Wait a second I went to sleep and y'all are still here. You guys have been playi...
ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME
Alkso, smithscript daggers are a real nice side arm option
limpid peak
you found throwing daggers? whereabouts?
stone cove
very fast, solid damage, good scaling, range is okay (verym uhc "midrange" do not expect to be sniping anyone with em)
stone cove
you found throwing daggers? whereabouts?
Scriptsmith Throwing Dagger location: ||Ruined Lava Forge Intake, below and to west of the Pillar Path site of grace.||
limpid peak
thank you
stone cove
As an aside, while there's a dedicated Throwing Weapons category
there is also a bunch of "Scriptsmith" weapons in other categories that get to do throwing attacks
and various other weapons that arent scriptsmith also have throwing attacks (There's a unique Beast Claws and a unique Greatspear for instance)
mellow silo
Back in my day we just used kukris
limpid peak
I am currently using kukris 😄
mellow silo
Summons for Rellana are still pretty much instant lol
Ok I just got kicked for "inappropriate activity" even though I did quite literally nothing
That's annoying
stone cove
I am currently using kukris 😄
Oh, also the best bit with the scriptsmith daggers?
Paired weapon. So if you two hand them you throw doubel the daggers
mellow silo
Ok I just got kicked for "inappropriate activity" even though I did quite litera...
Does anyone know how I would go about fixing this? I assume it's some issue with the DLC
stone cove
I've no idea, sorry
limpid peak
found a great katana
I already want to use it 😄
I've been using the wraps for five minutes and already I'm looking at the new hotness
stone cove
There's a unique one i've found too which has edgelord potential for draogn hunting
and also there's
||Oceans of Blood||
limpid peak
that's the one I've found
stone cove
(Okay it's not actually called that)
So, on the downside: Scriptsmith daggers cannot be weapon buffed. On the upside, you can still Poison, Bleed or Cold infuse them.
limpid peak
any idea if there's more you can do with the guy near the dragon's pit? since you've been there
limpid peak
he's next to the pillar path site of grace, and he was talking about eating dragons earlier, but now he's just whimpering
the people of the Land of Shadow are technologically superior
they invented fast moving elevators
stone cove
No clue, i didnt keep exploring once i finished the pit
mellow silo
Getting to phase 2 pretty frequently now
All according to plan
Yay I survived the nuke for the first time
Host died though
stone cove
AHAHAHAHAHA
i found a RIDER KICK ash of war
It inflicts scarlet rot.
and if the target is rotted or poisoned already? BOOM.
Occult Beast Claws with that, lord of blood, lord of rot exaultions, carian filgree crest
you got a stew cooking
A DEATH STEW
...also i just found out there's a Rocket Punch weapon as well
mellow silo
Any tips for Rellana? Struggling
mellow silo
I'm on PC
stone cove
@mellow silo It's right by the door. Look for Penguin
mellow silo
Sees it
stone cove
Weeerid
When i fought her she did phase 2 at like
25% health
and died basically immediately after
Lemme bring bloodflame blade as well this time
stone cove
Well, no, i destroyed the crap out of her
and shredded her hp so fast she didnt have time to fight back
i suggest leaving Leda behind too
mellow silo
o7
stone cove
i think she's just infalting the hp to little value
Anyway, sign's down
She is just hilariously tanky this time around for some reason
stone cove
Sign's down again, i've got one more try in me
mellow silo
That magic slice combo dear god
stone cove
It also seems like you have no vigor?
stone cove
Ah, yup, that'd do it
recommend getting at least 55.
ideally 60
(i'm at 55 because i'm lazy and also because i pretty much always have Godrick's rune active when in my own world, so)
stone cove
You're missing a pretty hefty chunk of hp though by not being at least at 55.
40 is 1.4k hp, 60 is 1.9k hp
55 is 1,814 hp
mellow silo
Back to the albinauric murder machine I suppose
stone cove
What level are you?
mellow silo
155
stone cove
...You're higher than me then
Oh, i tell a lie, i'm 158 now
but i killed her at 150
mellow silo
I invested heavy in dex because S scaling weapon, so that ate most of my levels
mellow silo
Yup, 80 for me
stone cove
Generally as a good starting point for a build 60/25/80 in your scaling stat is very solid
and even going past 60 is pretty overkill
mellow silo
Also running higher faith when I initially started as an int class is fucking me over too
I've got an extra 10 levels in Int I'm never gonna use
stone cove
If you're using the faith for bloodflame blade, that's what, 5? 7 levels?
Yup, 5
Assuming you started as Astrologer
you should be able to get 60 vig, 15 mind, 25 endruance, 10 str, 80 dex, 12 faith a level 148
leaving you 10 free levels to shove wherever the fuck you want
stone cove
25 endurance gives you a pile of equipload and stamina too, which means you can stack up some good armor (and it really does make a differnece), or even just comit to light rolls with still solid armor
mellow silo
Light roll gang
stone cove
though tbh, i'd not bother with light rolls
You dont get any more iframes out of it
just a longer roll and a faster b ackstep recovery
mellow silo
Fair enough. I'll see what I can reallocate if I give you on the light roll dream
stone cove
I mean, the mobility is nice
but it doesnt really get you much interms of evasiveness
what are you running for Talismans?
with Urumi i'd suspect you want Green Turtle, one of the Winged Swords (Rotten is the strongest, Milicent frees up 5 points of dex to go elsewhere, ideally you have both, but that's not possible until NG+ or you know, cheating it in)
and then probably Dragoncrest Greatshield in there, and the last slot is whatever assuming you don't have double winged swords
mellow silo
Great jar arsenal, fire scorpion, and the scarabs. Haven't found green turtle or winged sword yet, mostly been running with my explorer set
mellow silo
The Quest For Dog Begins
stone cove
Yeah, no wonder you're exploding with Fire Scorpion on
stone cove
||Rivermouth Cave|| also i'm off to get that
or at least mark it
because ahaha holy shit why is tehre a better one!?
mellow silo
All the way down to 19 endurance 😭
stone cove
I said 25 for a reason!!!
It honestly sounds like your build is being pulled all over the place
mellow silo
Ah well, worth it for 60 vig
stone cove
Like part of me rolling Renny in my world was because my build is very focused, so i just dropped my mimic tear and well
|https://tenor.com/view/gunray-star-wars-out-of-hand-gif-13521110
mellow silo
Need to switch casting focus too, for that extra endurance
Was using Golden Order because I needed to budget my equipment load so much
stone cove
If you're only using Bloodflame to support your bleed application (Which is fine!)
just slap on the Dragon Communion
mellow silo
Which means I had to have 17/17. But without that I can have 16/12
stone cove
You're going to get fuck all extra fire damage with 12 faith anyway, and the bleed dosent actually scale with anything
(also what class did you start at?)
Did you start as*
mellow silo
Astrologer
Which is really dragging me down in the long run
I do not need 16 int
"I'm going through play an intelligence build this time"
Goes right back to Dex/Fth
stone cove
Okay, wait, what did you asign your stats as?
because like i said - you should be able to get 60 vig, 25 end, 80 dex, 12 faith
and be only level 148
stone cove
You said you had 19 endurance though?
tbh, i dont know that pulley is doing you any good
mellow silo
25 endurance, I sacrificed my casting stat
stone cove
If you're using it to inflict Scarlet rot to add pressure to the boss
but rot bolts are icky
stone cove
You aren't a bleed build though, bleed is just an incidental nice thing, and you have plenty of bleed support from Urumi with bloodflame blade anyway
Oh
wait
Urumi dosent even ahve native bleed
...Probably not worth putting Bloodflame on it, honestly
Like unless you're willing to respec it to be a Blood Urumi
at which point i dont think you can bloodflame it anyway?
limpid peak
(if you were going for a bleed build I'd go Arcane rather than Bleed anyway)
(at least on weapons with native bleed)
mellow silo
I'm mostly running off of rule of cool for my weapons tbh
Bloodflame Urumi looks rad as hell
stone cove
I mean, fair
Not gonna argue that
but
You must understand
YOU HAVE OFFENDED MY OTPIMIZER BRAIN RAAAH
😛
I kid, i kid
I would try just putting Lightning grease on (She likes standing in the water, and her armor has a hole to lighting which should translate to her having a weakness to lighting)
and going to town with your 604 phys + 85 lighting before any other buffs Urumi
mellow silo
Forget how much faith I need for Electrify Armament
stone cove
Thunderbolt as your ash of war because Thunderbolt scales with Dex and can be made keen, and it just does hilarious damage
mellow silo
Probably more than 12
stone cove
Also Electrify arment is going to be much worse than Grease
limpid peak
I think I'm gonna go offhand throwing knives and build around that, with a dex weapon in my main hand
stone cove
because EA requires faith scaling (it's 0.4x your Faith Incant scaling only - no cheating with Clawmark etc)
limpid peak
maybe Milady?
umbral portal
||Damn Mesmer got hands||
stone cove
maybe Milady?
I'm using Milday, throwing knives, and dryleaves as back up
and it's good ocmbos
stone cove
||Damn Mesmer got hands||
||you hit phase 2 yet?||
mellow silo
New stats new me, let's dance Rellana
umbral portal
||Nope, don't spoil me||
stone cove
I guess I'm just stealing your build then
Nah, i'm Quality, not dex
Milady is a really good quality weapon, and the throwing knives are still very good as quality
limpid peak
I am currently quality, but I figured I'd save levels on just getting Dex
mellow silo
Is there even a merchant around that sells lightning grease?
stone cove
Is there even a merchant around that sells lightning grease?
No, it's a craftable. Root resin and Fulgur bloom
so at least pretty easy to farm
stone cove
I am currently quality, but I figured I'd save levels on just getting Dex
I think the AR is way b etter if you go quality from what i rember.
I'm currently 158, have 55 str/51 dex (It's actually lower, but Milicent's) and my ar is 300+ for the throwing knives and near 580ish for the Milady
and then goes nuclear because stacked Milicent's + Winged
mellow silo
Definitely feeling that extra vigor
Just need to get used to not having the god roll
stone cove
Literally the only differnce
is you roll a bit less distnace
You don't have any better iframes or anything
old brook
But the light dodge looks nifty
stone cove
ALso, fuck whoever dfesigned the stupid bloody Forge Golems
what a stupid, stupid monster design
It dosent bloody work when you have every monster on greased spinning plates >.<
(They have a weak point you're supposed to hit in their back to stagger them, but it's hitbox is awful, and getting hits in behind them is also awful, because it's fromsoft game, everything spins in place with unllimited tunring speed)
mellow silo
Truly a fromsoft classic
limpid peak
wait, I need 11 int and faith for the Smithscript Dagger?
stone cove
Yep
limpid peak
damn
stone cove
#Wretchwinning
limpid peak
that's 4 levels for me, hmm
stone cove
I actually went 13/13 because that gets you Order's blade and Discus of Light as well
which are very useful addtions
limpid peak
not touching incants or spells this run I think
I've got another character ready to go, who is faith and arcane
hmm, wonder how much endurance I actually need for medium load
I might be able to drop a bit, get the levels for the knife
stone cove
I DO NOT LIKE MOLE RAT OGRE LAND
limpid peak
you can't check what equip load you're at when undergoing rebirth
so I'm just gonna guess, I guess
stone cove
@limpid peak Don't guess!
There's a simpler way
Total up your equip load
of everythign that you want to be using
and then divide that by .7
that'll give you the total equip load you need
limpid peak
okay, that works
I'm about 40 equip load over what I currently need
I'll leave myself a bit for safety though
I'm either gonna put STR and DEX at 50 each, or drop STR to about 20 and put the rest in vigour and mind
hmm, actually I can get 60 dex and 52 str
stone cove
If you're using Milady and two-handing it a lot
then leaving strength at 50 is probably fine
as it becomes 75 from the two-hander bonus
and 80's the cap anyway
limpid peak
and I've got Millicents to help pump up dex
stone cove
Yup, that's how i'm approaching it
limpid peak
alright going with the quality build
stone cove
I've decided i'll go for level 200
because having a hang up about sitting at 150 for The Pvp is well
silly
given i dont actually pvp other than getting summoned as a blue
or when some poor fool tries to jump my friend and gets mulched in co-op
(They did not expect the stormcaller swordspear >.>0
literally 100-0'd them and did 1.4k damage in about 3 hits
it was very funny
limpid peak
gonna try out Aspect of the Crucible: Wings on Milady
umbral portal
||mesmer down||
mellow silo
Hell yeah
stone cove
||mesmer down||
He aint just got hands! He got ||Sneks||
I hope you petted them.
also, Noice. Looks like Arcane got a bunch of cool, even good incanations this time around
left willow
Yay! Mohg down, just in time for bedtime
So tomorrow's play time will be in the expansion
limpid peak
I think Leda actually does make Rellana harder
it might be worth it if you have a bunch of percentile damage I guess, but oof
stone cove
Yay! Mohg down, just in time for bedtime
Oh, grats and also you shoulda asked me for help
mellow silo
On the Rellana Struggle still
stone cove
it might be worth it if you have a bunch of percentile damage I guess, but oof
Yeah, i;'m pretty sure my succsess in murking her was the fact i dididnt summon anyone, just cloned myself with Mimic
mellow silo
Getting better, but still not good enough
left willow
Oh, grats and also you shoulda asked me for help
Oh, he really only took a few tries (sub 10).
stone cove
and so she just had two angry stabby enbies in her face
which cut down on her being super agile
Summons and she likes to bounce all over the dman place
stone cove
Oh, he really only took a few tries (sub 10).
Fair! Anyway, talk to you tomorrow
left willow
Haven't gotten her down to half in a while now
Would you like help from a caster or do you think you got it?
umbral portal
||darkgaol knight|| got HANDS
Everyone in this DLC hs hands
mystic charm
Bro I got FORTY FIVE VIGOR
I BEAT MOHG BEFORE HIS PHASE 2
Mohg didn't filter me hard enough
mystic charm
You fooooool
umbral portal
fooooooooool
gentle chasm
Another ||Incest Plot???||
left willow
Also, are you using an Ash summon, and if so, which one? (As that is a big point for Rennie, imo)
mellow silo
Would you like help from a caster or do you think you got it?
Help is always appreciated, but I'm mostly dying due to get focused down, so a caster might not help much
mystic charm
Bravo grrm
left willow
Help is always appreciated, but I'm mostly dying due to get focused down, so a c...
What's your ash summon?
umbral portal
what I've learned so far lorewise is: ||MArika is an imperialist bastard||
left willow
Idk what to do for ya there
mellow silo
I checked later on and renna wasn't at the place
So I think just straight up missed it
limpid peak
damn, almost had it there
left willow
So I think just straight up missed it
If you do not get the Spirit Calling Bell from Renna, she will eventually stop appearing at the Church of Elleh. However, you can try waiting until nightfall at the Church, then open the map and Travel to Stormhill Shack then Travel back and then she should be there again. Otherwise, you can buy the bell for 100 runes, as well as the Lone Wolf Ashes from the Twin Maiden Husks in the Roundtable Hold.
According to the wiki
old brook
Jesus Christ, Death Knight, whadda moveset on you for a random find
limpid peak
lmao, Rellana's Twinblades scaling is the letter C four times, at +10
vivid spire
Rellana is dead
How many runs lmao did it take
vivid spire
Damn
limpid peak
but after the respec it took 4
mellow silo
Too many goddamn runs
vivid spire
What did you respec to?
mellow silo
I'm at probably 60 runs
vivid spire
Oh
Ill do some Mohg grinding then
Get to 150 or 160
I wanna run an incant dex build
limpid peak
the funny thing is, by the time I killed Rellana, I'd procrastinated so much that I'd already found another way up
so I have the grace outside already
vivid spire
Wait you found another way?
vivid spire
So once I reach the Greatbridge what direction do I go?
limpid peak
in the bottom right of this map
umbral portal
||Erdtrees burnt: 2||
vivid spire
in the bottom right of this map
I see thank you
I think I’m still gonna level to 160
Because 143 isn’t cutting it normal enemies can take me out in two hits
I’m just unsure where to put the points into dex vigor or faith
I think I need more dex? I have 50 vigor and 60 faith
And I’ll try doing dragon incantations
Is anyone else running a primarily faith build?
OHHH
I forgot I was playing the game early
Ofc there’s not a lot of people around to help
There’ll be a lot today I’m sure
mellow silo
How do you unseal the spirit springs?
umbral portal
So, new lore regarding ||Radahn||
vivid spire
And did we notice that the starting areas mush together Farum Azusa and Caria
Like a mirror reflection
umbral portal
||Apperently he arrested the stars not because of jealousy or wanting to have power, but rather he didn't want the Golden Order to abuse Ranni's empyrean-ness, and protected her by arresting the stara||
||Miquella was also the one who sent Malenia to kill Radahn, because he wanted Radahn to be his Consort (and he could te.ake Radahn to he more... agreeable||
mellow silo
Seeing weird ghost rocks on the spring, do I have to go find the physical version on those rocks?
Got it
limpid peak
yes
umbral portal
||the vibe I'm getting is that Miquella is basically Griffith, and Radahn is Guts. Down to the fact that Miquella has a weird obsession with Radahn that Radahn does not share||
limpid peak
I have fought this hippo for five seconds and I'm already tired of it
umbral portal
umbral portal
||Challenge him using the emote||
mellow silo
||omg Leda hiiiiii||
The Berserk reference is strong here...
Scripture Mozgus and Lady Farnese
Gonna go take Rellana by surprise by attacking from behind
Oh I can't, lol
vivid spire
Have we considered why exactly Mesmer seems to be using ||Erdtree forces alongside his own, while his own men seem to have gone further into his weird little subfactions with snakes||
And that the twin snakes may be a reference to the Serpent God
mellow silo
Oh god fromsoft why the ominous messages
||got to presumably messmers castle, and it said a powerful charm and a great rune broke when I got near it, along with a weird sound effect||
limpid peak
I got the same message
though it'd relate to the tower in the south wrapped in shadow, but it wasn't
mellow silo
||OH GOD HIPPO||
mellow silo
Got a ton of blessings, let's go fight Rellana again
Gotta cheese stuff with my mimic
Give it arteria perfumes and rotten meat for healing
Can't get poisoned easily anyways
limpid peak
talk to Horsent and Leda
|| The charm that has been broken was the charm Miquella had put on all the tarnish here ||
mellow silo
Leda/Story spoiler
||oh god they're all turning on each other, what should I do? I don't want Leda to go kill everyone||
limpid peak
|| I have no idea, I wanna save the Hornsent, but I dunno how to do it without just murdering Leda ||
tropic stream
Boss ||Holy fuck, blackgaol knight||
vivid spire
I found ||A town full of Omens worshipping the Formless Mother||
I think there’s a connection there
glossy delta
I've gotten (boss) ||Rellana|| to the first l in her name on her health bar
But then the ||three moons|| clipped me on the first one 😔
vivid spire
paper badge
I found ||A town full of Omens worshipping the Formless Mother||
I don't think those are ||Omens||
paper badge
||the vibe I'm getting is that Miquella is basically Griffith, and Radahn is Gut...
oh fuck these are some hella lore drops
vivid spire
Many runes
paper badge
They don’t have horns
I think item descriptions call them ||Bloodfiends?||
vivid spire
I think item descriptions call them ||Bloodfiends?||
Yes
glossy delta
When/How do you get up there by the by
I imagine its not straightforward
umbral portal
oh fuck these are some hella lore drops
sorry if I'm being too spoilery :V
limpid peak
I've been climbing the Jagged Peaks and wow, dragon cultists are eating good
paper badge
When/How do you get up there by the by
I imagine its not straightforward
||go south from the cross right in front of belurat, with ansbach and moore||
paper badge
I've been climbing the Jagged Peaks and wow, dragon cultists are eating good
||yeah that fucking area is insane||
paper badge
sorry if I'm being too spoilery :V
I clicked on the spoilers willingly lmao
paper badge
||Apperently he arrested the stars not because of jealousy or wanting to have po...
also I love this specific bit
a lot
mellow silo
I've gotten (boss) ||Rellana|| to the first l in her name on her health bar
But...
Man, the triple nuke is such a bullshit move
You get hit by the first one, you're forced to eat all three and almost definitely die
Also, [boss] ||how do you get past Rellana's repeated magic slash waves. I always seem to get hit by one of them||
kind garden
||I literally soaked them with my shield and then healed||
glossy delta
They may be one of those 'run perpendicular' attacks but if so you would need to be ON it to do so succesfully
kind garden
my understanding is that which attack is chosen there is proximity based
so you either need to be hugging the boss to force the close attack out, or run far far away and then sprint in a circle around them
paper badge
Also, [boss] ||how do you get past Rellana's repeated magic slash waves. I alway...
time ur dodges better
tropic stream
dungeon ||whoever made this fort where every enemy is an omenkiller||
||fuck you xD||
glossy delta
Oh lord
(boss item)
||Finally checked what the Dancing Lion Rememberance gets you||
||Second Alexander's Shard for storm arts only 👀||
||Storm Blade is already the best weapon art in the game????||
mellow silo
Oh yeah, that boss. Should really go back there eventually
Belurat scares me
Infact everything in the DLC scares me
glossy delta
Belurat felt easier than Ensis to me, but thats just me
vivid spire
I did ||lion|| first
Went in the direct opposite direction of the tree to see what was there
It felt easier
glossy delta
Okay, Storm Blade with the two charms above on Milady is just mulching things
Especially if I manage to get it off in melee so the sword hits too
mellow silo
It has 10 million cleaver guys that ganked me repeatedly
glossy delta
I did not have a great deal of trouble there but I seem to be the exception
vivid spire
I used Blade of Calling
It knocked them off ledges
And the Holy did extra damage to them
Because ghosts
I’ve been able to use it for the entire run so far
mellow silo
Finding that the megapoke is surprisingly good on Rellana if I can keep attention off me
vivid spire
Hmm would the ||Perfume Bottles|| make for a good build
I did ||Wing Stance with Quality||
Is that how yall are doing ||m’lady||
mellow silo
Anyone on PC here who would be willing to help me kill Rellana?
The dance grows old, I wish it to end
glossy delta
Where is the BlackGaol Knight?
So I can't do screenshots but
||Look at the very first grace of the DLC, where you walk out of the cave, NW of it on your map is a blue circle on top of the cliffs, no? almost directly north of it, below the cliffs and in the area where all the dead tree drawings are, is a mausoleum where you fight him||
glossy delta
||I rec something good at breaking poise, he relies on it a lot||
grave plinth
Seems relevant
glossy delta
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Did the scarlet empress get punished by the higher gods by having her textures removed
grave plinth
She is currently missing and possibly dead
mellow silo
Holy, the knight is tough
glossy delta
uh huh!!
mellow silo
Can we steal his crossbow when he dies?
Most important question
I NEED IT
Imagine that with Burred Bolts or something
vivid spire
Oh the knight
mellow silo
6 Billion Bleed
mellow silo
Is it available elsewhere?
mellow silo
Must find
limpid peak
dunno where I got it, sorry
vivid spire
Wait did they make bows good this dlc
glossy delta
Probably not
vivid spire
Oh
glossy delta
Like
I bet that thing has no scaling and does 9 damage
mellow silo
This repeating crossbow will be god tier for status application
Inflict 6 Billion Bleed
vivid spire
My build is mainly BK
And I gotta say
The dlc has taught me I can’t use it for everything
frozen olive
i've been using it for almost everything
limpid peak
ooh, got the dueling shield
vivid spire
Sigh
Does anyone here play Xbox
I need help desperately
I leveled up a bit and got my vigor to 55 but I can’t beat this boss
mellow silo
Ok so I did not find the repeating crossbow. However I did find a crossbow shotgun
frozen olive
so far i haven't honestly found much armor or weapons
glossy delta
I'm so glad the light greatsword is actually good
Like, it isn't flawless, nor is it the best weapon I have for my character (thats probably the dragonkin halberd)
But it does what it doess well
mellow silo
Looking online, nobody knows where the repeating crossbow even is 😭
I want my 6 billion bleed arrows
"this weapon costs 400,000 runes to fire... For twelve seconds"
Think I've got a lead
vivid spire
I’ve been waiting for help for an hour now
glossy delta
Does ||Leda|| not show up for you by the entrance
I used ||Leda|| and Dung Eater
real shadow
Looking online, nobody knows where the repeating crossbow even is 😭
It's ||Found on a corpse where you fight the Ghostflame Dragon in Scadu Altus, south of Moorth Ruins, heading towards Moorth Highway, South.||
vivid spire
GOT HER
I DID IT
Oh my god I’m shaking
Can someone tell me now if the other bosses are just as fast
frail ferry
oh god theres a new batch of paintings
mellow silo
It happened. 6 billion bleed
umbral portal
Yep!
frail ferry
also ||beeg sheep||
mellow silo
Get to 60
limpid peak
well, I reached Messmer
frail ferry
omg theres an fp regen talisman
real shadow
Two-handed weapon talisman too.
umbral portal
Nice
jaunty solar
Description of a weapon I found in an early area of the DLC
There's a mystery afoot
Here's an actual picture of it
umbral portal
It can or can't be upgraded wiht somber smithing stones?
jaunty solar
It can be upgraded
umbral portal
Cause if it's Somber the Ash of War cannot be cbahnged, that's nothing new
jaunty solar
But it's ash of war is square off
Weapons with unchangeable ashes all have unique ones
umbral portal
could just be an exception
jaunty solar
No, I'm certain it will transform
It's stuck in a stone scabbard
Santier's spear is a weapon from ds2
That was stuck in a stone statue head
You broke the head to change the weapon into a combination spear and twinblade
mellow silo
Maybe you should try to find "an altar of light and darkerness"?
jaunty solar
If it's in a DLC area I haven't found it yet
I looked around Nokron because that fits the description of a civilization long forgotten
And didn't find anything
Maybe when I find the depths in this DLC there will be another part of Nokron
mellow silo
Oh this crossbow is powerful as hell, if you can get all the shots off
frail ferry
god the ruined forges are sick
frail ferry
huh... do those giant fire bitches bleed
jaunty solar
Copies, or unique weapons?
Copies
They may break into different forms
or multiple may be required for this altar
I found a lead on where the altar may be
mellow silo
Drip acquired
Helm Of Solitude, Confessor Armor (Altered), Fire Monk Gauntlets, Ronin Greaves
mellow silo
Time to find this Milady thing
twilit path
Seems like if I fast travel or it gets deflected, it gets stuck like this
Incredible weapon tech
jaunty solar
So
I think there's two swords
Only two I mean
I think they'll transform into dark and light variants of the same sword
And maybe have a unique powerstance
mellow silo
||Ok, I looked this up. All I'll say, is you're on to something||
||No Idea what for now, I didn't read pretty much anything||
jaunty solar
I'm trying to explicitly not look this up
jaunty solar
no problem
frail ferry
and imbued sword keys are a thing too
frozen olive
found my first big cutscene :D
mellow silo
Sulyvahn if he did crack cocaine
frail ferry
if he locked in
vivid spire
Oh this crossbow is powerful as hell, if you can get all the shots off
THEY MADE Bows GOOD
mellow silo
Good only if an enemy is standing perfectly still. So basically what you pull out for the opening volley and nothing else
glossy delta
Might be a way to consistently apply scarlet rot with rotbone bolts
(or black key bolts if you have any, only 90 per playthrough lol)
frail ferry
||3 MOONS?!?!?!??!||
mellow silo
Nuke time
frozen olive
the amount of fucking places to go
holy fucking shit
i just keep finding new enormous areas to explore
frail ferry
god lattena is still so good
240000??!?!?!?
oh dear lord
lobster spotted
HER SISTER?
frail ferry
oooo the black steel greathammers have a unique guard counter
mellow silo
Cool as hell
Love the hat
I'm gonna make a Mozgus cosplay with that
Using Crucible Wings ofc
frail ferry
oh good lord, they made the runebears even mor dangerous
mellow silo
How do I challenge Dane?
frail ferry
WHAT DO YOU MEAN "BEAR COMMUNION"
jaunty solar
In Limgrave you have right to bear arms
In the Shadow Realm you have right to whole bear
frail ferry
if there are bear miracles im going to renalla right this godamn second
jaunty solar
||I guess the theory that bears are becoming dragons is confirmed now then||
mellow silo
BEAR MAGIC
glossy delta
Remember to put stuff in spoilers folks
mellow silo
Trying to put together a Father Mozgus cosplay
jaunty solar
The dryleaf arts ||palm strike ash of war just ends people's bloodlines holy shit||
mellow silo
God, uhhh. Maybe Godskin Apostle Robe?
glossy delta
The dryleaf arts ||palm strike ash of war just ends people's bloodlines holy shi...
I dont have the stuff to max it ATM but it with Alexanders' and Godfrey's Icon greatly appeals
mellow silo
Any other suggestions for the chest piece?
jaunty solar
I got alexander's
mellow silo
Dunno how I'm gonna wield a book as a weapon, but I'll try
Welp, onward to hippo
Hits like a truck, as usual
I miss the days when I could take more than two hits...
stone cove
Looking online, nobody knows where the repeating crossbow even is 😭
I do!
twilit path
Mozgus sighted. Surely he can punch with his wings
stone cove
But I'm not at my computer so I can't describe it easily
mellow silo
Yeah I got it ajready
mellow silo
Mozgus sighted. Surely he can punch with his wings
Look as soon as I saw that hat it became inevitable
twilit path
Fair haha
umbral portal
Personally love seeing ||people getting nuked for the first time in Rellana||
stone cove
Personally love seeing ||people getting nuked for the first time in Rellana||
M O O O N
frail ferry
god my intbuild is gonna have fun with her shit
mellow silo
welcome to shadow of the erdtree, we have
- puppet
- hippo
- moon nuke
frail ferry
runebear deluxe
umbral portal
welcome to shadow of the erdtree, we have
- puppet
- hippo
- moon nuke
||Radahn (again)||
stone cove
I’m at 55 vigor
55-60 is fine. The difference between 55-60 is about 90 HP. Not nothing, but not a huge loss. I wouldn't go below 55.
Re your question on boss speed, no one else I've fought so far has matched Ren's speed
mellow silo
||god the hippo is also a porcupine, help||
This is one of those bosses that's just miserable to fight
jaunty solar
I found the sword
mellow silo
I much prefer Rellana tbh
