#Abiotic Factor

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sick charm
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literally everyone in the facility hears it when it fires

supple dome
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holy shit

candid temple
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Scorch marks on the wall where the pellets impacted

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I wish I had a video of it

sick charm
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I've seen multiplayer video where somebody randomly gets flashbanged by someone else fighting half the facility away with it

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while cooking in the base

supple dome
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me when ||Kylie Muir|| tells me "i'm proud of you"

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also moisture teleporters are elite

woeful raptor
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god im so lost in labs

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im just sprinting through trying to find progress with a kitchen knife maiming every solder i come across

supple dome
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it can be a fucking maze at times

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got the ||Nuke Vac and it can apparently pull missiles and mystagogue eyes out of the air, sick as hell||

still igloo
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I'm in residences and I still get lost in labs any time I want to find one of the trade machines

supple dome
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i put down beacons on them

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also

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my body is a machine that turns Going somewhere into broken legs

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broken leg, leg fracture, sprained ankle šŸ’Ŗ

woeful raptor
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im planning on mass producing workbenches and like

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just removing the enemy spawns around there

supple dome
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mhm

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fair nuff

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fishing rn

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then i'm going to go commit extreme violence

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fuck

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i fished the wrong fish

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gods damn it

still igloo
supple dome
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i needed the fucking inkfish

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i got like 13 of those fish 😭

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going to cook the fish fillets and then go get the fish i actually need

sick charm
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For critical land marks my friends keep getting lost on

woeful raptor
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shit thats such a good idea

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goddammit

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i need to mass produce these like right now

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furniture store my beloathed

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can i please just get like a little ping or something when im near one i havent activated

supple dome
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got 9/10 of a mat i needed and no more enemies to fight

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pain

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i think my friend genuinely fucked up a vehicle permanently

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i didn't even know you could but hehas

woeful raptor
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did he cut it in half, how do you manage that??

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also is there a way to hide the suit equipment

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w the transmog or w/e

clever flower
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Anytime I get lost as hell I imagine trying to actually work in this goddamn place, no jetpack no gravity cube no teleporters

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'a'right walk down this half-mile hallway in order to get to the stairs'

woeful raptor
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"ohhh lock the grav cube away and not use it" are you serious

supple dome
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he got the car stuck

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in the ground

woeful raptor
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god damn

supple dome
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on top of the fucking respawn button

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genuinely mystifying stuff

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ok the ||Night Magnum||fucks

woeful raptor
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where should i put these beacons besides all the labs trades

supple dome
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upgraded shotgun obtained

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we are ballin

supple dome
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realized i've kept upgrading my shield despite just not using 1 handed weapons for like

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ages

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need to go grab a one handed melee weapon

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think imma just make myself a good one-handed weapon and give my friend my ||laser katana||

clever flower
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wish the magnum worked with a shield but i understand our fragile science wrist would implode

supple dome
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yeah

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man fuck the machine gun guys on the far side of ||cloud reactor||

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that's some bullshit

oak parcel
supple dome
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genuinely just getting mowed down and sniped instantly

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this fucking sucks

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try putting up my shield but that might as well not exist

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the knockback is making it impossible for me to even move around

candid temple
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What shield?

supple dome
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hardlight

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i got them

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fuckers

supple dome
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ok

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well

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i see what you mean with the Polished Antique Shotgun being funny

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jfc

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that's going to be so fucking funny when it happens with my mates around the first time

woeful raptor
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misclicking towards my base once:

supple dome
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here is the car my friend absolutely fucked btw

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spoilers for later parts of the game

sick charm
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Btw what are ||redaction|| grenades useful for even

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It seems like an absurd amount of overkill

oak parcel
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Memery

oak parcel
sick charm
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It now does fuck all against machineguns

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And snipers

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Only shield that works against either now is the riot shield

supple dome
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Rip

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I'm going to make it into a ||Mystagogue bracer||

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So it's not a huge deal

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But that sucks still

sick charm
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Yeah it basically flash bangs everyone on the postal code

supple dome
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Gonna be so much fun when it happens with the whole group there

supple dome
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aww man wtf, apparently Grayson is supposed to be a trader but he hasn't showed up ever as one

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apparently i could bandage him again so we'll see if that does anything

woeful raptor
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yeah early on he got stuck in my doorway so every time he appeared i had to relog so i could get into the cramped cafeteria cubicle base thing

supple dome
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ok yeah he seems to have been healed

brittle comet
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The one use case I can see is dealing with ||the two defence robots in cloud reactor|| but you get the grenades after that’s relevant

supple dome
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why do riot shield enemies exist

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they genuinely just make the game unfun to play

sick charm
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Yeah they are annoying

supple dome
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when they like, hunker down and start doing shielf bashes it makes me want to scream

candid temple
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Throw moltovs at their feet or position them between you and a shotgunner

woeful raptor
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that reminds me

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i should start creating grenades and such

candid temple
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Y'know, looking at the damage again, I'm wondering if Frag Grenades being only 50 damage more than mugnades is part of the whole "military should be worse than science" outlook

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Frags might be easier to farm?

woeful raptor
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need to look up what mugnades cost again

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oh god

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yeah thats abysmal to farm lmao

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not as bad as optic lenses though

candid temple
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Eh, I've found I had a stockpile of most of that stuff

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Soil is the tough one

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Frags would be easy to farm if I could find a way to instantly kill the robots

woeful raptor
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yeah soil is not fun for me to farm at all

candid temple
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Hm, I wonder if Thumper Shotgun to the back would instakill the robots with Sneak 15

oak parcel
sick charm
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but honestly you can just keep drinking coffee

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these days I think I just take a carbon pick to hydroplant to farm up frag grenades instead of making my own I think

supple dome
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we back up to fully operational superweapon status

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i've learned that carrying too many weapons is good actually

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because i always have a holdout weapon

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in fact i usually have like 3

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also Carbon Pickaxe is the undisputed goat ngl

still igloo
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My hotbar is usually a solid strip of 8 weapons, flanked by a teleporter and a throwable (healing briefcase/||hardlight shield||)

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Utility items can live in my backpack

supple dome
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I always keep my military knife ready

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Gonna be cooking the shit out of some eggs for cooking levels tomorrow

sick charm
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is that a plasma rifle I see

soft chasm
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excuse you

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that's a ||plasmois|| rifle

sick charm
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i find that unforgiveably french

oak parcel
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i find it unforgivably burst fire

soft chasm
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don't worry, there's no piss mechanic

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you're good gianni

dense ember
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hmmmmm

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latest update fudged something with mod again, come onnn

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it's not even a big change

high badge
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what mods are you using?

dense ember
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NPC details and damage number

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I updated the UE4ss mod, and both just don't work anymore

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switched back to the old version of UE4SS, and only NPC details work

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instant fishing still work despite everything

supple dome
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lookin proper military now

brittle comet
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i was tempted by the chief helmet but stuck with the uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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tarasque

supple dome
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wearing ||Legate armor and Chief helmet, with the assassin armor as chest plate cosmetic||

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had been wearing the max upgraded maestro armor for speed

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but tbh i just want more armor at this point

sick charm
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I got the gas mask look

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With wearing the carapace helmet carapace leg carapace arm

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With torso slot left blank

woeful raptor
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did yall find a way to turn off the rat suit

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or the hazmat suit slot

sick charm
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nah

woeful raptor
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AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH

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HELL WORLD

supple dome
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does the backpack cosmetic work for y'all

soft chasm
supple dome
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i really just want to transmog over my jetpack

soft chasm
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although it's been asked after so consistently that zag's seemed to indicate they're relenting

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and it's just

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not a priority

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because priorities are bugfixes and a post-1.0 break

woeful raptor
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right

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at least theyre relenting...?

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i just dont see why there's a specific artistic vision towards keeping the hazmat suit visible

brittle comet
sick charm
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Zag seems to have some very uhhh odd fixations on artistic vision

woeful raptor
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the og military gun balancing usage whatever

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but like this is cosmetics i want to drip my character out cmon

supple dome
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one woman army

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prolly gonna trade the ||skink for a chef knife|| and give it to one of my friends

sick charm
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But skink is friend

supple dome
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true

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my friends will appreciate it more

supple dome
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finally

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chef knife

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this is more like it

sick charm
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Woman who has three knives

supple dome
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i also have a ||Nuke vac||

woeful raptor
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zoro

supple dome
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ready to commit extreme violence

woeful raptor
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on the topic of chefs knives

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sometimes i think about what it'd be like prowling the manufacturing/labs sector as the order

supple dome
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Chefs knife btw is the best item for chopping corpses in the game

woeful raptor
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and then seeing some scientist chef knife your squad to death

supple dome
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you have a 0% chance of getting bio-scrap

woeful raptor
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cut up their corpses while being shot by you

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and then once theyre done, they turn to you and run into a full sprint

sick charm
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Chef knife is basically useless asa weapon

woeful raptor
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idunnnnooooo

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it seems to kill people just fine

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though it takes a

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very. long time

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hm.

sick charm
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True

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It does 5 slash damage

woeful raptor
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  • level scaling
supple dome
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got a ||deatomizer||

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extra violence

supple dome
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lookin kinda slick

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you know i kinda wanna make a irl employee badge

oak parcel
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i want one of the mugs but the shipping makes them so expensives

supple dome
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yeah :(

oak parcel
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just got into residences today ||fucking HATE that, HORRID writing choice||

woeful raptor
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oh god

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that's ominous

soft chasm
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oh, i thought it was great

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i really thought that ||hasta tria was going to get out scot-free by virtue of being named and nominally allied with us||

oak parcel
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||killed off the most interesting thread in the game so far and then gave us a terribly written excuse to try to get us to not hate abe and janet for it||

umbral narwhal
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To be fair ||I'd mag dump a deatomizer into any Rat I see for the loot as well and totally shot Hasta before realising he was a non-hostile NPC||

soft chasm
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||he's still part of a global conspiracy-cult that assassinates people and came to the GATE facilities specifically to slaughter hundreds or thousands of civilians||

dense ember
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||And the Order as a whole has been the key set up by Cahn to trigger the whole situation over the course of millennia, and they only found it out too late.||

candid temple
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||I didn't want Hasta Tria to lead me around the new area and explore it on my own. Also I like Abe and Janet more||

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I'm just angry they didn't share their ||giant laser turret blueprint||

soft chasm
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tru

umbral narwhal
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I'd love a manned ||giant laser turret. Maybe one that can kill Composers and comes with shielding. Something to build in Reactors to deal with certain groups of Gatekeeper troops.||

candid temple
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They should let us build science equivalents of the machineguns

oak parcel
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i am now 2 for 2 on acidentalying one of my friends

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the same friend both times

dense ember
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I do want some kind of minigun yes

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yes our science arms are noodles

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we can just sciense our way into dakka!

sick charm
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I wish we had a laser collector integrated backpack

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Directly powering our deatomizer

soft chasm
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only if they halve the damage of the deatomizer

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well, halve the tick rate

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so its damage and stagger both go down

oak parcel
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kylie spoilers: ||for anyone pondering the ethics of turning her into a shield generator||

supple dome
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great success

oak parcel
supple dome
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(residence sector spoilers)||Hasta Tria 😭 ||

oak parcel
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||yeah that bit was such bad writing imo||

brittle comet
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||agreed even if it was funny||

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||hyping him up for the better part of a year and giving him a new fancy outfit just to kill him the second you start the area the update is about||

clever flower
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||i feel like I didn't get as attached to Tria as folks seemed to, what d'ya mean hype||

oak parcel
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||not to mention how the fuck do abe an janet think we're in a hostage situation when the would be hostage taker went first and unarmed and the players can be brandishing all kinds of weaponry||

supple dome
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||it was very funny but i don't like it||

supple dome
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rip my shield generator

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should have high-key kept it

sick charm
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Think about the achievements

supple dome
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yeah but like

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i could have just not upgraded ||Kylie with it||

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and just ||kept her as a normal chip||

supple dome
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ah well

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i grabbed a censer instead

sick charm
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what's the pro con of hardlight shield vs censer ayways

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thinking of grabbing the zip shield for the halo playstyle anyways

supple dome
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censer revives you once

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hardlight is an extra layer of defense basically

oak parcel
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once per 5 minutes, if you get a dbno state

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if you get insta killed by like an explosion its bypassed

sick charm
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I keep forgetting to bring bandages when I go to farm defense runes in reactors

oak parcel
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and you choose to use it or not, its a prompt on the dbno

sick charm
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Oh it’s once every five minutes

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So you can’t become functionally immortal by carrying a cot

oak parcel
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and the 5min is enforced by a debuff so you cant cycle trinkets either

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you can wait 5 min before popping you head around the corner however

supple dome
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i cannot be fucked to farm another rune for a shield

soft chasm
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what

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gate runes just happen to you

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you need a million corrupted cpus for things

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and there's a mystagogue by the fastest volatile exor pack

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and then you usually get a couple on your first SG clear

sick charm
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Killing corrupted robots are such a bother

soft chasm
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deatomizer, my friend

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or darts

sick charm
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I mean yeah that’s what I do

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Deatomizer I mean

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But it takes more than a full charge to kill one it seems

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So I just sit at a slightly higher elevation and toss quantum picks at it

woeful raptor
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im very tempted to also just turn up the enemy spawns and turn down the enemy damage by a ton

sick charm
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Who says I’m not Gordon freeman

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Cause I feel more powerful than Gordon freeman now

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With my hardlight saber and alien armor

soft chasm
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this is a video i took a couple weeks ago making a point about how fucked the deatomizer is

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i was also sloppy with my aim and didn't hit the eye 100% of the time

woeful raptor
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are there any items that might help me move bases

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it's starting to get really cramped in the cafeteria

candid temple
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There's a cart

sick charm
woeful raptor
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ah the forklifts

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urghg yeah ill just bring a cart

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one chest at a time

supple dome
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i already need to farm materials to make 4 ||Excursion suits||

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so i'm just sticking with the fucking censer

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i need 23 power cells before we can continue playing at least and i did not have the foresight to go farm flathill passively

soft chasm
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before you can continue playing?

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you don't need that item

supple dome
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the Flathill, ||Praetorium||, reactor loop calls to me

supple dome
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but my group wants to get it cause it's cool

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we need to get the materials

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i am by far the most adept at getting materials

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thus if i put effort into getting materials it will speed up the process

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my friends have designated me the scout troop leader and have been approximating headless chickens a lot of the time so i'm just going to try to optimize the situation so we can keep having fun

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Honestly it's kinda fun in a way cause usually two of them are unhinged min/maxers who learn literally everything there is to know about games they play and do crazy in-depth theory and buildcrafting but they've just been relying on me for knowledge this time

candid temple
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Hm, the flamethrower seems a bit underwhelming

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That or Mystagogues are tankier than I remember

soft chasm
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no, you're right

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the flamethrower's damage is pretty poor

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and it's even worse against mystagogues, because one of the gimmicks of the flamethrower is that it deals holy damage

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i.e. it ignores hardlight

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and the mystics don't have active hardlight shields

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just their forward barrier

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so there's nothing for it to ignore/gain damage against

sick charm
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Wish there was a legit side grade to the deatomizer

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Like a pulsed laser or smth

supple dome
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I use the flamethrower to stun jotuns

sick charm
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Plasma rifle is a pretty good backup weapon

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I think I change to it to pop jotun’s shield before switching back to deatomizer

supple dome
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Fair nuff

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It's super ammo hungry so i stopped using it

sick charm
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Yeah

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I just use it for emergencies

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Or when popping jotun shield

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Emergencies line

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ā€œOh god an exor is is in front of me and I’m out of deatomizer charge I need to dump 300 damage to its head in a secondā€

candid temple
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Mystagogues are just a real pain for me since I'm melee

sick charm
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I mostly use crossbows and deatomizers

oak parcel
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skink

sick charm
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Oh yeah I always got a skink

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In case I need to assassinate a mystagogue

candid temple
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I've been wondering if an Electron Grenade can just take them out

sick charm
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Doesn’t seem alll too reliable

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Kill radius of an electron grenade seems smaller than a mugnade

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Two mugnades will take it out real quick

candid temple
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They're weak to electricity

sick charm
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Yeah

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But getting a hit on it is hard

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Since they float around so much

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Mugnades has a larger kill radius

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So they are more reliable

candid temple
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Yeah, maybe if you could get a direct shot

sick charm
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Yeah

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Couldn’t really manage that though

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I do have throwing ten now

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So I could maybe predict the throwing arc better

high badge
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Mugnade sweep forever

muted juniper
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hey i'm told the upgraded vacuum cleaner can pick up grenades... been trying to do that w/o success, is there a trick to it?

soft chasm
soft chasm
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just hope that the jank works

sick charm
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I just want an actual laser rifle

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But I guess that’s basically the laser pistol now

high badge
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Just don't use the Deatomizer if you don't like it

soft chasm
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unfortunately it outdpses any other three weapons put together and also has like 5x the ammo-space-efficiency and doesn't need to be farmed

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it's not just "the best weapon in the game", it's the best by so wide a margin that it actively feels awful to use anything else

oak parcel
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just to be contrarian the upgraded shotgun out dpses it if you're really really lucky

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but honestly thats just a testament to how op the deatomizer is

soft chasm
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this is true, if you have a 100% trigger rate on the 2% crit chance, its 10k damage hits are better

oak parcel
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that the only thing that holds a candle to it is the meme cannon

soft chasm
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glitchthrowing the quantum pick is...not quite there, but pre-nerf was almost competitive

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it's not anymore

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but it was

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and max-tier darts are competitive

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crystal darts are reasonably close, assuming you're at max throwing

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neither of them meets either the space economy or the actual dps, but they're a substitute

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but

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this requires 20 throwing

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and crafting a lot of darts

candid temple
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Why Crystal Darts?

soft chasm
candid temple
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Also the throwing shards, but those are much more expensive

soft chasm
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yeah those are the max tier darts i was referring to

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fucking frozen essence

candid temple
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Currently planning on afking in Residence Sector with an OX Tower to farm essence

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Until there's a cold snap and I can add another fucker to my collection

soft chasm
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honestly I'd advise not jarring icy

oak parcel
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nah, set up a teleporter, spawn timer refreshes when you exit, i had both buffs up would pop in have them spawn in under 1 minute drop it off at base head back and do it again

soft chasm
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until you'rereally done with farming

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otherwise you're locked to 1/day

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which is glacial

candid temple
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Yeah but then it's a passive farm and I can do something else

soft chasm
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it's a passive farm that requires ice cream

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i'd suggest the ox tower + afk plan

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and do that [something else] outside of the game

candid temple
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Oh, interesting

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If you sit down while wearing the Mystagogue armor, you float

dense ember
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so, is it just me or is quantum battery is just, too expensive for its own good?

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like, the new formula of carbon battery is such that it's an upgrade of the industrial battery for like 3.5 times the storage, which is great

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quantum battery is two carbon battery duct taped together with frozen shit

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for same amount of power storage

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yes it's power leech proof, but at that point, power leech ain't a problem any more

soft chasm
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carbons are nice for disasterproofing

dense ember
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and if you want to save up on power cell

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because you don't want to keep farming flathill

soft chasm
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but you only really need one industrial battery to run a laser emitter -> converter to power [an arbitrary amount of equipment]

dense ember
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yeah

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I didn't know this trick in my first playthrough

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that would have helped a lot

soft chasm
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since they take an industrial battery to make

dense ember
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but you get 3.5 times the storage

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so you saved up on 2.5 powercell

soft chasm
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ig if you take a break between cascade and plant, yeah

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to not have access to lasers

dense ember
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laser is only available at hydro so it does take a while

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lab is such a huge place to explore

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you need the brown ORB to make the laser power convertor

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so you can't even make use of that leaking laser pipe in office

soft chasm
dense ember
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fair

soft chasm
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it's so many things to farm

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vs just one

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and you're in need of basically all of em during your initial labs tour

candid temple
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I don't like the laser emitter option, feels scammy

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Also I 100% expect it to be patched out

dense ember
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my thought is that once you farmed flathill for 3 power cell (2 at best since the last one is a pain to get to), you can't exactly get more

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until 3 days later

oak parcel
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the last one you can get to faster with some rope plants

candid temple
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They still take 3 days to reset

oak parcel
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yeah

dense ember
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rather than being locked by only one resource, you can still make use of other resources

oak parcel
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but +50% on your farm is still nice

dense ember
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yup

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also good tip, I will need to remember that next time

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rope plants solve a lot of problem

candid temple
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Rope plants work well, if you have some means of fall negation you can jump off the roof and get to the second and third ones

oak parcel
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yeah take 2, go up to it place one on the ledge to the right of the power cell it will drop you down to a ledge and then you place another on that and it drops you into regular play area

woeful raptor
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labs sector is so looooonggg

dense ember
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also, question

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the laser splitter split the laser into 3 'weaker' laser

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what does that means exactly

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because the weak laser can power an entire grid just fine like normal laser

candid temple
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🤷

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My guess would be that a laser can only be split or redirected so many times

soft chasm
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i think that's literally it lmao

dense ember
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ah

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...

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you totally can just use the 'weak' laser to power something like 3 laser emitter and then use that to power the laser collector faster right?

candid temple
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Laser collector speed does not increase with more emitters

dense ember
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ahh

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so you want more laser collector instead of more emitter

candid temple
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I've found a much better use for my emitters instead

dense ember
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fun

candid temple
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(Not pictured: Hardlight Bridge)

sick charm
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I really like the quantum picks

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Honestly low key hoping for a much smaller homeworld next

supple dome
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ok the excursion suit is really good but i hate not being able to see my outfit and it weighs too much to take around without wearing it

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may just skip on it and make the material requirements for progression significantly lesser

sick charm
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Hmm

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Is it just me or does quantum pick do more damage than a hyper cross magbow

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It seems to reliably one shot kill neophytes with a stealth headshot while hypercross can—oh right they are weak to sharp

candid temple
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Magbow also does sharp

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I think Quantum gets bonus damage from Sharp Melee and Throwing when you throw it, which can make it do a surprising amout of damage

sick charm
#

Yeah

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Seems to do more damage than a hypercross

candid temple
#

Ah, I was mistaken, thrown sharp melee is boosted by (Base Damage + Throwing Damage Bonus ) Ɨ 2, not by Sharp Melee

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So at Throwing 20 (2 damage/level), Quantum Pick does 180 damage when thrown

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So yeah, QPick does more damage at Throwing 18+

sick charm
#

Only at throwing 13

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hmm

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don't know why quantum pick seems to be more reliably headshot killing neophytes then

candid temple
#

QPick does more damage than the Magbow at Throwing 6 (50+12)Ɨ2=124>120
It does more damage than the Hypercross at Throwing 18
(50+36)Ɨ2=172>170

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Thrown Sharp Melee is not boosted by anything other than Throwing

#

Might be Sneak Attack? Idk

#

Sneak Attack seems a bit wonk with ranged weapons

#

Oh, because it was being talked about last night
The reason to make a quantum battery is for the Charging Pad, otherwise, there is this neat tidbit
a single Battery (Quantum) can power up to 12 devices through the night period. Batteries lose efficiency when wired in series, but because of the fractions involved, 2 Battery (Quantum) can actually power 25 devices through the night, rather than 24.

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The defense against energy leeches isn't that valuable either because the Portal Suppression Field kills them

oak parcel
#

If we got it earlier I could see it being useful in converting your entire base to run on a few and the. Taking the rest of your batteries for the far side of portals but it's too late for that by the time we get it

supple dome
#

got the cold shotgun

#

the polished antique was fun but it's so slow to kill stuff with

supple dome
#

finished Abiotic Factor

#

what a fun game

#

||A little week in the end, the final boss was a bit "wait for damage phase" but it wasn't bad at all||

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||Kinda fun how you just end the world||

#

||oops, all apocalypse||

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||also IS-012 is very G-Man inspired i feel||

supple dome
#

finally...

oak parcel
#

i will be at 52/53 eventually

supple dome
#

why not 53/53?

oak parcel
#

i've yet to get the one for soiling myself and now i'm avoiding it

soft chasm
#

based

#

i drank too much coffee once and shat myself

supple dome
#

Low-key can't believe it's over

sick charm
#

Well

#

Apparently the credits contain a Morse code message saying

#

||Please standby for additional directives from Keystone||

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So maybe there’s room for dlc in the future

oak parcel
#

oh they said they were doing more content post 1.0

#

also

#

have you see the homeworld room?

#

there is so much room for content

high badge
sick charm
#

They mentioned a furniture store world homeworld

#

And then there’s whatever Medusa homeworld looking thing

brittle comet
#

||i'm guessing that the future you see in hydroponics was not an alternate timeline but our future||

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||also WHERE'S ABE :(||

dense ember
#

||I think future Hydroponic looks like that because it's completely fucked in its own pocket of space||

candid temple
#

||Future Hydroponics in the sense of the time portals or the Arch-Gate Facility?||

#

||Also I do wish we got a little bit more from the Arch-Gate Facility||

sick charm
#

Maybe welll visit keystone

#

Derek ||appears to have managed to escape cascade facility before it became sealed||

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So he’s ||probably evacuated to keystone by now||

candid temple
#

For ||Fragments|| is the ||Active Shield Generator|| just the trinket item, or is there something that needs to be found in ||Botanical Garden||?

woeful raptor
#

i wish there was a sandbox setting that was like. all everythings have or drop 10x more loot

brittle comet
#

||i really enjoyed that||

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||despite never interacting with him he is one of my favourite characters in abiotic factor||

dense ember
#

||It sure demonstrates how bad things are after reading through so many logs of Manse calming reporting things and then he's just panicking||

unkempt lily
#

Finally finished reactors

#

(after already doing it in EA)

#

god that place is brutal. ||I don't like the praetorium much either. It's not actually that hard it is just very very long||

candid temple
#

I have now realized I should have made the crystal armor way earlier. I understood that it made you sneakier, I didn't expect to be actually invisible while wearing it

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Unfortunately machine gunners have xray vision

sick charm
#

It’s total complete invisibility

#

You can sneak past composers with it

#

I wear it when I’m soloing

candid temple
#

You can sneak past the entirety of Shadowgate with it

sick charm
#

Yeah

candid temple
#

My route to Praetorium is currently just wearing it and sneaking through the portal room

sick charm
#

Got a void chest on the other side to dump it out for better armor or smth?

candid temple
#

Nah I was just doing a stealth run for fun

sick charm
#

Oh yeah

#

Stealth armor is op against soldiers

#

You just one shot kill everyone with carbon pickaxe or magbow

candid temple
#

I am very sad it doesn't work on the machine guns, but tis to be expected

sick charm
#

Well that’s what rocket launchers are for I guess

candid temple
#

I suppose, if only I could rocket launcher them from outside their range

#

Also need to mess with what does and doesn't break invis

supple dome
#

i simply kill everything

unkempt lily
#

Residences ||hasta tria 😭||

oak parcel
#

yep

supple dome
#

yeah...

sick charm
#

Wonder if they’ll give us the Bahamas homeworld

soft chasm
#

with leyak 3

brittle comet
#

we also need the flesh dimension

#

because the hexwood helmet says it improves trades there but there's no flesh dimension yet

vagrant thicket
sick charm
#

abe you gotta tell us if we are in your sick simulation

brittle comet
#

that would be the real plot twist

#

abiotic factor was all just abe's simulation

unkempt lily
#

I have completed the game at long last

#

||Not only did we not escape we also ended the world. Very neat||

unkempt lily
# unkempt lily I have completed the game at long last

Took me a solid 40 hours, though I’ll admit I did kinda speedrun some of the stuff I’d already done ||I sequence broke Manufacturing West, never went to rise, never completed voussoir, and just sprinted through the first wayfarer fight rather than actually clearing the room||

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I love the volt staff so much

#

That thing carried me through so much of the game ||and the final boss||

oak parcel
#

its not abe's (lobby spoilers) || its wakeman's||

sick charm
#

This is Dr. Derek Manse. Today I discovered that Dr. Stern's latest software experiment was simulating the entire facility - a microcosm of Cascade, and every staff member within it, even myself, I gather. When I asked about it, he claimed to be trying to find a way to accelerate our research. I inquired about the ethical considerations and he just looked at me blankly. The man is a genius, but more dangerous to this facility than most of its subjects, I'm sure of it.... An exceptional scientist, all the same.

clever flower
#

I love how the story treats him as the Bumbler and he's pulling nonsense like this

sick charm
#

Eventually we’ll have to face cyborg peccaries

#

Abe also off handedly mentions he ran the simulation 400,000 times

#

But that the current situation never quite came up

#

If you can believe him

#

Never quite understand what his specialty is

clever flower
#

Whimsy

sick charm
#

Apparently molecular physics but he’s off inventing like cyborgs

#

And doing simulation experiments

oak parcel
#

i must have been projecting with how much i hate wakeman

sick charm
#

Dr Waksman is also doing some random bullshit all the time too

#

Like dropping a reservoir growth into the lake

oak parcel
#

an kylie

sick charm
#

Or ripping out the brain of someone on death’s door to make sentient robots

#

Or making sentient water bot for no reason

#

That man is pretty laser focused on doing sentient robotics though

#

Unlike Abe who seems to do whatever catches his fancy at the moment

clever flower
#

Without Abe I wouldn't have nearly enough capacitors, he's a good man

woeful raptor
#

abe eating all the capacitors in labs to make pests

oak parcel
#

i cant decide if i hate wakeman or a&j more

unkempt lily
sick charm
#

But yeah

#

Gate science team are

#

Hmm

#

Least bad of the bad options

#

But they are still engaging in extremely morally ambiguous behaviors

#

Like stealing a village’s religious artifact (even if the religion is run by a charlatan)

#

Wiping out an entire parallel dimension earth accidentally

#

Also isn’t it really funny for manse to have recorded that he doesn’t believe in the existence of yeti and the Loch Ness monster

#

When his organization got a yeti in captivity

#

And also has a dark water beast swimming around in the lake in vision from where the holorexording is

brittle comet
#

street dumb book smart

brittle comet
#

and ||ended the world by taking over the security system leading us to reset it and let out the thing that pretended to be cahn|| (spoilers for the ending)

sick charm
#

Still theft of religious artifact

#

Besides they aren’t directly affiliated with the order I think

#

Their priest is a charlatan who stole the book of faith from an inquisitor

candid temple
#

Niketas murdered an Order soldier who was carrying the Lodestone and took it back so he could found a religion

sick charm
#

And ised it as a basis to found his cult

candid temple
#

Stealing religious artifacts from cults is ok

sick charm
#

Notably if they were really affiliated with the order

#

Their priests wouldn’t be using those magical fireballs

#

That would be witch craft

#

Which is a bad no no

candid temple
#

The Order has Flame Rats, so dubious if they'd be that concerned

sick charm
#

Well isn’t that tech based

#

I suppose technically all magic is tech

candid temple
#

As tech based as the Mystagogue fire

#

Also the holy fire used by the lodites looks like it might be a holy fire grenade of some kind

#

I'm a little sad we don't get that

#

But there are like 3 kinds of fire, so I'm ok with it

supple dome
#

also ||Cahn is the G-Man of Abiotic except he's got an evil agenda not a potentially benign one||

soft chasm
#

and then it showed up

#

and he goes "ugh, if this is real i can only imagine the other stupid bullshit that might be"

sick charm
#

next a darkwater beat will be discovered in loch ness

#

isn't there also an actual sentient evil snowman

woeful raptor
#

yes

clever flower
#

for some reason "The Tub.. of Blood" has gotten stuck in my brain forever

#

that and The Hole That You Shouldn't Stand Near ( This Room Has No Door )

oak parcel
#

is the second one the presence? or the wood thing?

woeful raptor
#

the rumblies

#

i think

clever flower
#

the presence/strange pipe that makes ominous sounds, ye

sick charm
#

how about the yellow paint anomaly

clever flower
#

brave, compassionate

woeful raptor
#

my yummu paint

clever flower
#

ye

oak parcel
#

yeah i love that one

#

just one day a supply closet gets weird

clever flower
#

'we put up a bunch of signs, it's probably fine'

unkempt lily
#

such a funny bit

clever flower
#

I love that they're not all just Freaky Creature, it makes the ones what are Freaky Creatures stand out

#

it meshes all the loony sci-fi so well

supple dome
#

watching a video about Abiotic Factors lore and this shit is so fucking cool

#

still not over the fact that (ABF Ending spoilers)||we actually just ended the fucking world at the end of the game||

sick charm
#

We should’ve ended multiple

supple dome
#

next time we'll try doing things with malicious intent

#

the results should be magnified by some order

sick charm
#

yeah let's develop a new strain of the zombie virus that infects exors

#

lets let the reaper eat canaan

soft chasm
sick charm
#

lets invent a new cyborg pest that will overtake anteverse 2

#

turn it from a realm of disgusting fungoids into a realm of perfect machine

#

kill and slay the unpronounceable and replae it on the throne

soft chasm
sick charm
#

also we should be allowed to cook and eat the yeti

supple dome
#

(ABF Ending spoilers)||Wait, Thule can show up in your base!?!?!?||

#

OH, ||he's a trader!||

#

lmao you ||trade him coffee's||

sick charm
#

Wait what

#

Really?

#

Never seen him around before

supple dome
#

yeah

#

when you /ABF ending spoilers)||beat the game, he becomes available apparently||

sick charm
#

Ahh

supple dome
#

upgrading all the armor sets i can make for a lack of anything better to do

#

i miss ||Kylie||

sick charm
#

I’m building teleporter hub to all the key locations

supple dome
#

sounds like a smart plan

#

i'll do that at some point as well

#

i have almost a month of time left on the server anyway

oak parcel
#

Smol request: can we tag our spoilers here with the sector they are for some groups are still dealing with scheduling issues and haven't beat 1.0 yet

supple dome
#

yeah

soft chasm
#

this is glorpshit

#

||we deserve to be able to murder him||

soft chasm
#

||i just want to peel him||

supple dome
#

Real

#

Tbf that's (ending spoilers)||not IS-0012's real body||

dense ember
#

||Would be real funny if the fucking bell is its real body all along||

sick charm
#

What happens if we throw the bell into the lava

supple dome
sick charm
#

i have the bell on my dining table rn

candid temple
#

Is it just me or did grenades used to explode on contact and now...don't?

supple dome
#

the ||Krasue|| is cramping my style hard rn with not ||appearing and dropping its damnable essence||

#

really miss Kylie right about now

supple dome
#

we're doing a save of the multiplayer world i was on it seems so that's going to be really fucking nice

#

whenever more content is added we'll be able to just jump back in

supple dome
#

getting trolled by the ||Krasue|| rn ngl

#

ok got my things now i can go work on the other armor

sick charm
#

Can’t you just trap him somewhere to get a reliable supply

soft chasm
#

her

supple dome
#

going to make one more skeleton for the Legate armor than i'm done actively farming them

#

missing only one piece of the Medic armor technically but i can't be bothered to go around killing medics to get it

#

or i can just

#

get the parts i need anyway

#

sure

candid temple
#

I was set up in the antechamber between the soccer field and lobby, saw her around the top of the stairs, and then waited several minutes without her coming down towards me

#

I think she doesn't understand stairs

supple dome
#

huh

#

weird

#

currently trying to get the breacher helmet

#

yippeee it dropped

#

Very nice

#

not all armors but it is quite a few

oak parcel
supple dome
#

ah nice, ty

oak parcel
#

Ymmv and I found it was more reliable if I was the only one in reaidences

supple dome
#

šŸ‘

oak parcel
#

and like tobi said the pathfinding is a bit scuffed so it can help to look around for them rather than waiting for them to come to you

supple dome
#

need to get the motion suit then i've completed my armor collection

candid temple
#

They should buff the Leyak so it doesn't need to pathfind, can just phase through walls /s

woeful raptor
#

my one gripe with abiotic factor is that crafting material creep is so prevalent

#

some of it is mitigated by the autosort distributor and whatnot but hooooooh

#

takes up a lot of space to have space

soft chasm
#

my issues are that and the horrific weapon balance

#

otherwise, very very good game

woeful raptor
#

yeah--i really dont know what im supposed to use the extremely slow weapons for?

#

"oh stealth takedowns" when i can just shoot them with my ultrazord obliterator?

#

can you believe there was only one trinket slot at one point

#

nightmare world

unkempt lily
#

I went out of my way not to use the deatomizer on my 1.0 playthrough

#

Highly reccomend honestly, as much as playing suboptimally doesn’t fix the game, it was more fun

woeful raptor
#

i can imagine

#

honestly

#

with how shitty enemy drops are

#

im thinking about just turning enemy hp all the way down

#

and enemy spawns allllll the way up

unkempt lily
#

The only drop I was really bothered by was gate defense runes

#

And arcane scrap a bit but that solved itself once I started scrapping censers

#

But jesus you kinda need a number of defense runes and they are quite rare

soft chasm
#

they really aren't ime

#

my group's 1.0 run ended with like a 40 stack

#

since they're a 10% drop from jotun and corrupted bots

#

it's the corrupted CPUs for compact crates that was annoying

#

needed like a million

#

so the farm was slow

unkempt lily
#

I guess I didn’t honestly farm that much

#

I beat the game with medium crates and makeshift batteries

#

But I was playing solo

#

Basically the only times I really stopped to farm was once for plutonic carapace and for ||motion modules + kylie shield||

#

Oh and a lot of killing bots for metal to make scrapshot ammo

sick charm
#

I killed bots for metals to make rocket launchers

unkempt lily
#

I did in fact skip rocket launchers

#

and also any armour past the exor stuff

#

save ||kylie shield, flamethrower, and the power armour|| everything before that point was plenty to muster me through

brittle comet
#

i never used the rocket launcher a single time i think

soft chasm
#

it's a very fun weapon to whip out once every few hours

supple dome
#

you can just chain running attacks cause they make you jump back also

#

easily made the Carbon Pickaxe the best weapon i used for killing non-big enemies by far

woeful raptor
#

huh

#

neat

supple dome
#

for single target it outstripped anything else by far

#

laser katana was better for groups purely for convenience but Carbon Pickaxe was the best for killing

sick charm
#

I am using the upgraded forge set against gatekeepers

#

It’s proven pretty effective thus far

#

Bullet resistance is pretty good

oak parcel
#

i do feel the carbon+sprint thing is less egregious than the deatomizer though

#

as not only is it kind of (ingame) skill gated, it does take some out of game skill to reliably pull off outside of a stealth opener, and you have to get in melee to the target

#

shotgun remains my favorite weapon

sick charm
#

Which shotgun

oak parcel
#

the special one

#

i still cant figure out what the night magnum does

sick charm
#

The acid shotgun seems highly effective against gatekeepers

oak parcel
#

the gambling one

soft chasm
#

the romag makes me so sad

#

with its fixed reload animation

#

please

oak parcel
soft chasm
#

give us partial reload

oak parcel
#

i literaly refused to use it because of that

#

the antique and revolver i can get not having partial reload esp. as our character is canonically not skilled enough to do round retention and the level 20 reloads would make it not beneficial to do so anyway

#

but the romag

#

it hurts

soft chasm
sick charm
#

Also the artifact weapons seem hardly worth it

soft chasm
#

that's about it

oak parcel
#

no like i know it does something

sick charm
#

Plasma gun does more damage per bullet anyways

oak parcel
#

when i have it occasionally enemys have night sigils infront of them

soft chasm
#

as far as i know that's exclusively visual

sick charm
#

The deagle is better but not by much

#

Compared to night magnum

soft chasm
#

literally the pre-1.0 milspec guns problem

#

in that they require a coveted item slot to use Kind Of Mid Weapons

sick charm
#

They are all missing that special sauce that really makes them worth crafting biofusion

soft chasm
#

that eat ammo

oak parcel
#

the polished shotgun has extreme meme value

sick charm
#

I use it to hunt tarasque

oak parcel
#

oh wait the other category of artifact weapons

sick charm
#

The last one somehow survived the nuke

soft chasm
#

yeah dunno why people call the geek guns artifact weapons

#

but it's a thing some people do

#

maybe just here

sick charm
#

Artifact weapons are specifically the t3 security locked guns

oak parcel
#

ok so the antique shotgun is like arguably an artifact weapon

sick charm
#

Well it’s literally an artifact that is a weapon

soft chasm
#

oh huh

#

the deagle is bugged

sick charm
#

Also I strongly feel artifact weapons should give you arcane scrap when scrapped

soft chasm
#

the reason it doesn't give accuracy xp

#

is because it deals untyped damage

sick charm
#

Huh

#

Pure damage?

soft chasm
#

and so ignores bullet resistances

sick charm
#

Ooh

#

That does sound interesting

soft chasm
#

and can break corpses

oak parcel
#

yeah i've heard the hardlight saber has that bug too atm

sick charm
#

Hardlight sabers seems to do plasma damage

#

It can’t kill plasma immune enemies from what I can tell

oak parcel
#

its supposed to but i heard the last hotfix bugged it

sick charm
#

Like crystalisks

oak parcel
#

havent confirmed myself

sick charm
#

I want a hardlight gun now

oak parcel
#

we dont need a deatomizer 2.0

#

on the one hand i still want a lever action science weapon on the other hand romag reload

soft chasm
#

we need to buff the bad guns

#

not add a new turbofucked supergun to share the deatomizer/hardlight saber/quantum pick spotlight

sick charm
#

honestly I do think the upgrade guns should be buffed

soft chasm
sick charm
#

they seem hardly worth the effort except for the hypercross

soft chasm
#

that makes it a lever action weapon

oak parcel
#

though tbh i wouldn't mind if they made a deatomizer 2 for residences gave it the deatomizer's stats and then changed what the deatomizer did

soft chasm
#

and then, y'know

#

another upgrade for the shredshot

sick charm
#

i want an upgrade for the electrothrower

soft chasm
#

flamethrower

sick charm
#

to make iit actually viable

soft chasm
#

but yeah

oak parcel
#

so

soft chasm
#

neither thrower is a functional gun

#

i also want a lodebow upgrade

oak parcel
#

the electro thrower got the treatment the deatomizer needs

#

it used to be stupid broken

sick charm
#

to be fair flamethrower is probably more of an area unlocking tool than meant to be an actual weapon somehow

soft chasm
#

and another talagi upgrade

#

and a wood axe upgrade

sick charm
#

give me a pitchfork upgrade

#

heck the

#

lodestone crossbow

#

is still needing a pretty big upgrade

#

like

#

does anyone actually use it

#

by the time you get it it's already outclassed by the grinder

#

which has more rounds in magazine and can shoot straight and actually has an upgrade path

soft chasm
unkempt lily
#

I found the flamethrower useful

#

But also honestly I think I missed half the weapons in the game

#

I didn’t want to grind for ammo so I just used the highest-endurance weapons I could find (volt staff+laser pistol) and called it good enough

#

The flamethrower was pretty solid for killing jotuns

sick charm
#

guess that makes sense

#

it is a holy weapon

candid temple
#

Which is both Plasma and Laser

#

I don't know how that interacts with weakness/resistance

#

Because I'm pretty sure it can hurt Mystagogues and they're immune to plasma

sick charm
#

hmmmmmm

#

do wonder when they'll release the post release update plans

sick charm
#

Does the existence of intermediate repair kits

#

Imply future existence of advanced repair kit

dense ember
#

assuming we get even bigger gun

#

jesus christ why

#

someone made a worse leyak on nexus mod

woeful raptor
#

scp 173 style im guessing?

dense ember
#

Yes

woeful raptor
#

ah

sick charm
#

like it's super fast?

candid temple
#

Only mod I can see like is an HD Texture

supple dome
#

holy shit

#

that is fucking horrendous to look at

sick charm
#

This is awful you are right

sick charm
#

I feel like albatross should have new fish

#

It’s a real world ocean for heavens sake

#

Shouldn’t it have some saltwater fish

dense ember
#

yes, more fish would be nice

#

food could really use a overhaul in general, soup is just too good

brittle comet
#

i love only getting the fucking convection oven by the time i'm in reactors

candid temple
#

Nuclear powered oven

sick charm
#

The laser sword should really cook the meat as you butcher it

candid temple
#

Wayseeker has Factored its last Abiotic

#

Broke the ||boss|| the first time around, do not use [REDACTION] Grenades

sick charm
#

wonder when they'll release the post release roadmap

#

month? few months?

candid temple
#

I assume most of them are taking a well earned vacation currently

#

So maybe by end of October?

#

I hope the next update they'll work on is ||Abe's Bizarre Adventure||

supple dome
#

same

#

i did end up checking and ||the submarine is gone||

brittle comet
#

||i guess you could call it abe's oddysee||

sick charm
#

20,000 leagues under the lake

#

I think most likely we will never see him again

supple dome
#

he is going to the ||Bahamas|| for sure

sick charm
#

He does mention that the submarine has a quantum tunneling component

#

Maybe he just used ||it to teleport out of here||

#

I wonder if the sequel game they mentioned will take place in the ARCH defense facility

candid temple
#

I wonder if Arch Defense is ||the current future|| or ||a possible future if we didn't help Cahn||

#

Also, had a thought that since ||Cahn can 100% teleport||, was he really contained or just waiting for rubes like us?

sick charm
#

Since ||the reason why ARCH defense facility lets you, an anomalous entity, go is that they don’t want to risk a temporal paradox||

supple dome
#

it's not even a question

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if you ||don't let him out of his containment unit, because that is 100% an option you can pick, he just teleports out anyway||

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||He knew exactly where he wanted to be and who he wanted to meet||

candid temple
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How would you avoid letting him out?

sick charm
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I’m not sure if he can escape on his own

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||but he did exert enough of an influence outside of his cell to send emails to instruct HOP to send you to the cafeteria||

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The fact that|| he describes what he did as being difficult does imply gatekeepers were reasonably effective in keeping him contained ||

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I do wonder about Dr Carson though

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Is she a human being

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Because she’s unbelievably awkward

candid temple
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She might just be from the Midwest

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or she could be a creature from the night dimension

supple dome
# candid temple How would you avoid letting him out?

||just don't open the door, you can in fact just leave it locked when you find him in Containment, there's nothing important in his cell that you need so you can just leave when you find him and he asks you to let him out||

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||oh, well he still asks you to open it to let him out, and he clearly doesn't need to be let out since he can teleport anyway. I see it as a symbolic thing regardless||

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||i truly do not believe he was really contained at all, he was where he wanted to be, just like the Sister of the Unlost says, game was rigged from the start||

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||You could never have done anything but help him end the world, except allow yourself to stay trapped in the facility, which is the one thing you could never do||

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||Even if you do consider Cahn truly unable to escape that cell, i still don't consider him to be truly contained because we always help him escape, as the Sister of the Unlost helpfully reminds us, it might as well be fate||

supple dome
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finally

sick charm
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I have safely contained krasusie in aquarium

supple dome
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Nice

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I genuinely couldn't be bothered getting the materials to contain it so it'll roam free

sick charm
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Hmm

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Wonder if there will be a Halloween update mark 2

woeful raptor
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alright

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what do i do in canaan

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just hang out?

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shoot the shit?

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i could build a circle k here

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OH

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you can actually kill the trees

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i just shotgunned one

sick charm
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Kill the trees

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Sneak into the village

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There’s a way through the forests

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Or

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You can just do what I did

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And jump pad across the walls

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You’ll need two

woeful raptor
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ahh

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ive just been like

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shotgunning everything that moves

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im kinda lost in the village

sick charm
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You gotta get to the mines

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And then assassins creed leap of faith towards the water mills

woeful raptor
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i see

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ill look for that

dense ember
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Think some wooden panel would do well there

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I should honestly make use of platforming more

sick charm
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I think I placed some jump pads there

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which should enable you to cross with a jump pack

brittle comet
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this was at the end of the survey deep field put out

sick charm
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Or the dimension gravity cube came from

woeful raptor
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I'm personally excited for an Abiotic Factor spinoff relating to an intense management sim prequel as well as a sequel that's more focused on card battling deck builders :D

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Though to be honest I'm not sure what exactly I'd want from Deep Field's next releases, but I'll be happy if they double down on more ABF

sick charm
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Honestly site management sim based on abio sounds amazing

oak parcel
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Evil genius but it's abiotic

woeful raptor
oak parcel
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Yes

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And the gatekeepers being weird for the most mundane of things

woeful raptor
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yesss

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scp facility sim except the challenge is the interpersonal relationships

sick charm
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Yeah

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Gatekeepers being bizarre for no reason

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Scientists screwing off with supposedly safe ISes in the name of science

oak parcel
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wakeman being wakeman

sick charm
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Dr Waksman — lmao

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Beat me to it

oak parcel
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i think the hardest part would be not killing him off as fast as humanly possible

sick charm
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He seems to have gotten special treatment from management too

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He has the best bed of the non-senior management personnel in residential

oak parcel
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he gets results

sick charm
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But he also is a danger to us all

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Unquestionably a genius though

oak parcel
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yes but we're talking about upper management

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they dont really care do they

sick charm
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Well they buggered off the moment the invasion started

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And then supposedly sent in the gatekeepers to purge the facility

supple dome
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Smallest patch of them all

sick charm
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Hmm, wondering if there will be a Halloween update. If there is, there hasn’t been any news for suggesting it

oak parcel
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Would make sense if we didn't, last time they had a spoopy area they were adding so it made sense to add it during spooptober

sick charm
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the snowman!

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It is escaping!

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yooo autumn update