What if the parry was a Sharp Melee Talent instead
#Abiotic Factor
candid temple
soft chasm
and it does this better than the hardlight shield
which has charge
and doesn't block heavy shots like 308
(snipers and jotunn)
and deflects much less
oak parcel
i think the deflect needs to be something you actively do rather than just being a passive its out thing
soft chasm
it needs to cost you something and be active
and just not outclass every shield, because every shield also costs something and is active
but they're all also worse shields than the sword
which is ridiculous and grody
oak parcel
i'd love to head from the devs what the intent for it was
oak parcel
yeah esp. later in the game
soft chasm
it's an old and loved approach to design
but it's not loved by me
i want better parity
oak parcel
candid temple
I'm surprised it doesn't have a secondary resource
oak parcel
yeah
soft chasm
I'd love buffs to a number of things, nerfs to the deatomizer and hardlight sword, and then a [fix/nerf] to the quantum pick
which currently double dips throwing and melee bonuses and this makes it hit like the fist of god
this should be changed
candid temple
I do feel, if it had a secondary resource, the laser kanata might be nearly equivalent to it
oak parcel
actually, would be interesting if they gave it a low but regenerating durability
soft chasm
hucking that thing at heads is a better sniping tool than all of the sniping guns
(magbow, wessex, magnums)
oak parcel
wait wait wait so you can get +60 on the quantum pick?
soft chasm
yeah, that seems to be how it calculates
oak parcel
i guess thats why it has the durability of a christmas ornament
soft chasm
it has good durability actually
oak parcel
the pick?
oak parcel
yeah
soft chasm
every time
candid temple
Throwing weapons takes more durability
candid temple
The pick has 80
oak parcel
it technically has 80 but practically its 40
candid temple
My balance question is, what is the intended use for throwing knives
oak parcel
throwing knives are actually stupid powerfull
soft chasm
being bad until you grind up to like level 10
and then killing everything you look at like you're fucking balor
throwing crystals are obscene
and pens aren't very far behind once you're at high throwing
oak parcel
throwing is +2 damage per level
candid temple
Are you supposed to lose like 1/3rd of your stack on each enemy?
oak parcel
seems high
oak parcel
you might want to get accuracy 10 i think it applies to throwing weapons
candid temple
I tried using throwing weapons early with just the throwing knives, but they broke so often it seemed overly expensive
candid temple
I see
oak parcel
they also stunlock basically everything once you hit lvl 15
soft chasm
and autosuck
yeah
you can stunlock a TR bit with crystals
it's worse than the deatomizer
but not by very much
which is saying something
candid temple
Most things are worse than the deatomizer
soft chasm
but i don't think it needs a nerf since it's ammo-based and this is A Whole Fucking Lot Of Grinding into the game
oak parcel
yeah you have to put effort into making most throwing weapons good
soft chasm
meanwhile, guns start bad and ammo-hungry
candid temple
Writing a list of things I wrote off too early because of cost in a survival game:
- Throwing Knives
- Explosives
soft chasm
and get better but stay nightmarishly ammo hungry
oak parcel
omg laser mines are sooooooooooooooo good
candid temple
I'm putting my foot down on laser mines, those are ridiculously expensive
soft chasm
to kill a shielded geek
oak parcel
imo the only two good guns are the sniper and the polished shotgun
oak parcel
I'm putting my foot down on laser mines, those are ridiculously expensive
worth it though
like late game nothing beats freeze bombing somthing slaping down like 5 mines and just removing it
soft chasm
minomin would be good if it didn't take the trinket
it also looks incredibly hard
it's a fucking dark wizard shadow deagle
oak parcel
the t3 guns get mega minus points as i'm pretty sure the bio-fusion thing causes a pretty bad bug
soft chasm
oh?
candid temple
I've never found a situation where I'd feel good about using the laser mines actively, but I'm probably just a cheapskate
oak parcel
ever since i made it theres like a 90% chance i cant heal bleeding or broken bones on my self if i have a suit on
candid temple
My active gameplay through most of the game was critting everything with heavy melee to instantly kill them without entering combat
soft chasm
weird
candid temple
ever since i made it theres like a 90% chance i cant heal bleeding or broken bon...
I think that's been reported as a known bug?
oak parcel
yeah a few people have talked about it in a few places but theres not many known good workarounds
so my character is semi borked
soft chasm
do tech bandages not work?
oak parcel
nope
soft chasm
I've never had a tech bandage fail to heal
soft chasm
Actual guns do seem a bit like a trap option currently
and this is with massive buffs!
oak parcel
I've never had a tech bandage fail to heal
oh you just cant use them
supple dome
they kinda are yeah
oak parcel
you'll be bleeding but get the you arent bleeding message
soft chasm
oh you just cant use them
supple dome
using Guns automatically means you need to put in more effort both to use them and maintain ammo stocks
oak parcel
so you just stand there bandage in hand slowly dieing
candid temple
Guns
- Uncraftable ammo
- Uncraftable repairing
- Nothing weak to its damage
- Eats an armor slot
soft chasm
doesn't eat an armor slot anymore
candid temple
Yeah but before 1.0
soft chasm
yeah they were explicitly and deliberately awful
candid temple
Deliberately?
soft chasm
but the playerbase really wanted them to be good and cool
soft chasm
Deliberately?
yeah, deep field wanted military gear to be Just Worse than science guns
because of the science focus
the current setup is a very hard-fought compromise
and they still need more work
(but so do a number of science weapons tbh)
candid temple
My partner primarily uses guns, not sure why totally, but the upgraded guns are neat
soft chasm
(all of the canaan weapons need upgrade trees)
(lodebow really hurts compared to like, nuke grinder discs)
oak parcel
i want a leveraction scrapshot
soft chasm
(or every stealth weapon)
candid temple
There should be another crossbow
supple dome
would be very nice
soft chasm
There should be another crossbow
nah, i disagree, i just think they need more upgrades and paths
supple dome
hopefully something we see in post release updates
candid temple
Is the Thresher...good?
soft chasm
we have a solid duality of crossbow options
woeful raptor
are you able to edit world settings in game
without the manual save text manipulation
oak parcel
should be able to from the load menu
woeful raptor
turned up my item stack limit to 3x but im not seeing any results
soft chasm
if you liked the single-shot death machine
you have the magbow
which does that very well
if you liked the aesthetic of having a crossbow but wanted something more useful in a firefight, the lodebow exists
lodebow just needs upgrades and magbow needs more
candid temple
Magbow was fun, I'd go back to it now that its ammo isn't as expensive, but I have the quantum pick, and that solves my sniping needs
soft chasm
upgrades everywhere...
oak parcel
headlight upgrade when
soft chasm
x-ray headlight
supple dome
need me a death laser eye
also i would like the weird tech glasses that show up in concept art to be in the game at some point
soft chasm
laser light would be cool
oak parcel
also i would like the weird tech glasses that show up in concept art to be in th...
i think those are the makeshift nvg
candid temple
Need a headlight upgrade that lets me see more than 10 feet away during the Night Event
candid temple
also i would like the weird tech glasses that show up in concept art to be in th...
That's the makeshift NVGs
supple dome
crazy
soft chasm
that cuts enemy vision
instead of being a light
but then functions as a perfect light during the dark fog
candid temple
Despite not actively being a threat, somehow the Night Event is currently the most crippling one imo
candid temple
Mostly because your vision is cut, but not the enemy's
supple dome
mfw i can't see fucking shit
candid temple
Using a Jotun SMG during the Night Event
soft chasm
i want the jotun lmg :(
supple dome
Can't wait to get to new content
soft chasm
and a witchy upgrade path for the spas12
extremely disappointed at no jotun gun
and I understand why no witch gun bc it's just the romag again
but i want something of it that evokes them
like a shotgun whose rmb is a massive lunge like the ljpack
still igloo
We solved this issue by way of Physics as well! In our case it was a single large ramp and a good run-up with the security cart.
IIRC only the front part of the cart made it all the way across and we had to jump out before it fell
oak parcel
i am so confused by how people are handeling that bit
soft chasm
jumping
sick charm
Hardlight shield is ineffective against snipers?
soft chasm
yes
sick charm
Huh
soft chasm
there are different shield "weights"
sick charm
Charge shield still blocks snipers?
soft chasm
and a shield only fully blocks damage of its matching weights
hardlight shield misses heavies
sick charm
So that’s why my heater shield felt ineffective against a machine gun
Guess I’m going back to charge shield before I reach hydro
soft chasm
there's light/med/heavy and i believe each shield fails against one
sick charm
I’ve been using lode shield
Actually
What am I worried about
I’m wearing invisibility armor
That’s a cheat code to winning the game with a carbon pick
Not even composers can detect me
sick charm
They seem to have detected it pretty hard if you ask me
At least for about half a second
dense ember
the shield weight mechanic thing could be more obvious by actually having the shield stating what weight they have
right now I just don't understand a bloody thing about the mechanic
soft chasm
yeah
clever flower
I was Heavy Weapons-y enough to fully not know this mechanic existed, and now just have the ||Funny Fire Gauntlet||-.. what makes something L/M/H, like, how could you possibly tell what to prepare for..
supple dome
leyak essence really pausing our run hard
sick charm
Just drink a greyeb chowder
I got the sensitive ears so I always drink greyeb chowder when I play multi
So that we always have a nice stockpile
While we run around like psychopaths
supple dome
just fished up like 10 IS-0098's
sick charm
I think I just run through the facility gathering up ammo from the renewable ammo boxes while high on greyeb chowder once in a while
For both capacitors and ammo these days
supple dome
getting radiation poisoning lets go
brittle comet
greyebs are really the way to go for leyak essence before you get the containment unit
also it's just good eating, especially when you get space lettuce for costomato wraps
costomato wraps and fr-eyed rice fed me through most of the game
supplemented by fries and maki rolls
sick charm
Ryoshu as thumb capo id when
supple dome
the goat of baseball, surely it has to be me
unkempt lily
I learned today, after an EA world with like 120 hours in it
That you can wake up sec bots during the day
supple dome
yeah
oh
i may be stupid
i forgot to attune my teleporter
and now i'm stuck
should have brought some healing
need to wait for my health to go up
love how Dr.Peters keeps asking me about the turrets
unfortunately lady i just firmed it
going to be really funny logging in next time we play and have myself a Situation™
brittle comet
did you get grabbebed by the containment bots
supple dome
no
i went in there of my own volition
but i'm not gonna tell my friends that am i
i have a teleporter to get out as well
umbral narwhal
I am envious of the empty hotbar.
I always end up carrying like a billion things.
dense ember
I'm trying to learn that you can just fix yourself through your status screen so you do not need bandage in your hotkey but I kept not doing that
umbral narwhal
It also lets you craft medical supplies as well, which I find useful after I mess up and break both my legs
soft chasm
I'm trying to learn that you can just fix yourself through your status screen so...
you can also just hold x to quick select medicine
or whatever you have the status key bound to, i actually don't remember the default
supple dome
I am envious of the empty hotbar.
I always end up carrying like a billion things...
I emptied it for the screenshot dw
oak parcel
Yeah unless I'm training first aid I just use the x wheel to heal
Well and the med briefcase sine the wheel doesn't actually work for it
candid temple
X wheel is good, I just wish it didn't immediately use it on yourself and just pulled the item out
So I can heal teammates without putting syringes on my hotbar
Also I've been mulling it over, and I think next playthrough I'm gonna pick Fear of Violence for Traits
sick charm
soloing the defense bot feels a lot easier than I remember
probably because long jump pack is available early
it really doesn't know how to deal with that
I just zip around throwing grenades and unloading magazines into its back
right now I'm just farming snipers for their cold resistant armor
sick charm
honestly though prefer the jump packs to jetpacks most of te time
besides its easier to reach voussoir with longjump packs
Just need two piece of bridge and a jump pad
to get enough launch velocity and height
candid temple
Do you have Cube™?
sick charm
yeah
candid temple
Yeah Jump Pack is way worse without Cube™
sick charm
yeah but I don't see myself removing the cube any time soon anyways so haha
oak parcel
🟦
sick charm
sniper armor feels nice though
no sway on my magbow
much easier to line up shots
and comes with integrated biometrics removal
magbow ammo cost grates me but defense bots are easy enough to kill with two slush bomb and about 18 9mm bullets
(is using the new silenced pistol)
oak parcel
i like night pass and a sprint heavy attack to the backpack
sick charm
oh that works?
candid temple
Magbow ammo is rebar and scrap right?
oak parcel
sets them to detonate and then you just hide for a bit
sick charm
rebar and something far more common yeah
oak parcel
rebar and carbon
sick charm
night pass and sprint heavy attack with a carbon pick?
oak parcel
yep
sick charm
yeah and you can get like 11 silver from train
which you can then trade for carbon
can't wait to be able to set up teleport net works
candid temple
You get a couple rebar from Train and Blacksmith sells rebar for...anomalies?
sick charm
ah right
oak parcel
yeah
sick charm
anomalies are uh
oak parcel
and the bots drop it
sick charm
hard to get though if you live in torii
oak parcel
ye
sick charm
so I think I'm just gonna murder bots
candid temple
Also noticed a good amount of rebar in Intrados
sick charm
I can replenish slush from office and flathills easily
and get the bullets from soldiers
actually
I have an armory locker with about 1200 9mm rounds in it
I may have a problem
candid temple
Lol
sick charm
I always think "I should go to manufacturing to replenish ammo after I shot a little"
except the people I shot were soldiers and so I actually barely lost any ammunition
so I just keep gathering more and more ammo
and now I have an armory locker full of shotgun shells and revolver ammo
between grayson trade and rise raid
and manufacturing hunts
candid temple
Need to make a list of resource spots, partially because I am getting tired of going back to Train and Flathill for all our resources
sick charm
rise got lots of goodies
got anteverse gem
refined carbon
bunch of ammo
only replenishable stock of iodine pills
can smash up the comps for liquid crystals
oak parcel
mfw one shotting symphonists
clever flower
Isn't it where you first get egg?
clever flower
Oh for portal stuff yeah OK
sick charm
you visit rise for ammunition and small amount of crystals and computer parts
oh and the only replenishable stock of iodine pills
brittle comet
also glass
that's where i go for glass
which is honestly only a problem when making the crystalisk armour
sick charm
oh right we did do that to get an extra set of crystal armor
sick charm
but yeah I do feel like a badass with this silenced pistol now
been running through the facility like a crazed psychopath zipping around with long jump packs
oak parcel
i used to go to the ski lift place for glass, between the the skylight section on the roof and the like observitory stuff it had like 20+ and you could grab it with a vacuum really quick but vaccumes dont seem to break windows anymore
still igloo
rebar and something far more common yeah
Interestingly, for my group rebar has fluctuated in value but never really been a critical limiter, while we are eternally out of carbon
You just get a fair amount of rebar coincidentally whenever you go exploring or visit pretty much any portal world or go kill bots, while carbon is only from the train
Even when the whole squad was using grinders rebar never felt particularly rare
still igloo
Just need two piece of bridge and a jump pad
With the Cube you don't even need that, jumping from the building in the center of the dam is enough height
soft chasm
Interestingly, for my group rebar has fluctuated in value but never really been ...
if you use the magbow, hoo boy
both of these things start to become very, very scarce
still igloo
Yeah, they both empty immediately if you've got multiple people using it as a primary
candid temple
Currently I'm low on metal scrap of all things
Because I can't find screws anymore
still igloo
I ran out as well while moving the base
But the basic security bots (whatever the 1st tier is called) are very easy to farm and drop a lot
Since you can trade their CPUs to the Blacksmith for anvils that scrap for 20 metal apiece
candid temple
Ah, good point
supple dome
going to farm those stupid bugs for carapace tomorrow
need a metric fuck ton of it for armor and weapons since we are 4 people
clever flower
My main farming annoyance is all food nonsense, freezer helped but some things could use like idk
supple dome
soup
clever flower
I want to craft the other ones
And milk sacs are deeply annoying
Stack to 10, you goddamn things
still igloo
I wish there were more things that could be made from entirely renewable ingredients
sick charm
I’ve been hoarding coffee once I realized warming ovens can keep them fresh indefinitely
dense ember
does warming oven also keep other hot food lasting longer?
like erm, bugrer?
that's technically hot food right?
oak parcel
afaik its only coffee
candid temple
Got through Praetorium
https://youtu.be/tagnCKatOsg
oak parcel
i love that if you rightclick it gives you the throw hilight but you cant throw it
dense ember
is the two knives thing like, actually good?
yeah you have a lot of melee dps, against an enemy that run and throw random shit at you
candid temple
So far, no, but they're fun
oak parcel
Oh last night I had my fist friendly fire kill
oak parcel
where does one get the witch compendium entry?
soft chasm
dunno, wiki def has it though
oak parcel
wiki says you get it from listening to a pa announcement in reactors but i've done that tons and i'm still missing it
candid temple
Apparently you can parry with the punch dagger though
According to wiki
Witch compendium should drop when you first hear the Witch Announcer
oak parcel
yeah it didnt for me
and i'm hiding some crafting stuff fro mthe people i play with (like redaction grenades) so i'm hesitant to brain sync for it
oak parcel
well i left one of them in charge of cooking and this is our food selection so efficient use of resources isnt their specialty
woeful raptor
a hearty american breakfast for two
oak parcel
and they have the stuff to make fancy things like pies and stuffed roasts
also i feel its worth adding the extra context of i'm collecting like 90% of what they are cooking
sick charm
Honestly you do this when you need to power grind cooking I guess
But we usually use fish fillets for that
woeful raptor
sounds like you need to book a fishing trip
soft chasm
and they have the stuff to make fancy things like pies and stuffed roasts
tbh the fancy stuff is basically all just
worse
than making A&L mega stew
or cosmato wraps
oak parcel
when trying to get people out of the base is like hearding cats nothing beats teh stuffed roast
soft chasm
those two and creamy corn soup are just The Food You Make
roast peccary's good too, but carbuncle mushrooms make it more annoying than soup and less efficient per-kill
and per-stack
oak parcel
i resource gather when everyone else is offline and then i get maybe 2-3 hours once to twice a week to get progress
sick charm
I just make grayeb chowder
oak parcel
for the longest time all they made was sustenance soup
soft chasm
greyeb chowder has bad hunger restore
if you've got plots to sustain it with potatoes, you've got the ability to make cosmato wraps
which are ridiculously good
oak parcel
iirc the chowder gives a better dmg reduction
soft chasm
yeah, a lot more, but it's bad as pure food
sick charm
I have both wraps and chowder
supple dome
oak parcel
i'm so sad that armor can't be upgraded
soft chasm
nerfed the quantum pick but not the deatomizer or the hardlight saber
nice, the least broken of the three most broken weapons got hit
sick charm
lmao
sick charm
improving laser point visibility is real good though
soft chasm
the quantum pick's at least balanced by durability concerns
sick charm
in NV mode
sick charm
teleporter pads being paintable should also help with knowing which teleporter leads to where
because my friends
are horrible with directions
and I'm very spatially aware
and since I'm the one who builds these
I tend to make it in a way that's not very intuitive
make the portal networks
supple dome
my friends immediately lose all sense of direction and pathfinding capability upon loading into the game
i high-key gotta shepherd them a lot of the time
sick charm
same
they still semi reliably get lost between aquarium and the central elevator shaft of lab
which I still have no idea how that can happen
supple dome
💀
oak parcel
yay they fixed the cant heal bug
supple dome
is the online stuff not working for anyone else
cause i'm trynna hop back to play a lil more before i go to bed and it's not letting me go online
oak parcel
yeah theres an outage
if you say no to the pop up you can still do a direct connect
oooo sneaky they double nerfed the quantum pick
its not getting as much of a damage increase from skills
umbral narwhal
Finally reached residences!
Now to figure out a good way to get lots of ||Krasue Essence||
supple dome
we've just gotten to hydroplant
umbral narwhal
I love Hydroplant, all the mobility options you get make me happy (and also send me catapulting to my death more often)
soft chasm
I love Hydroplant, all the mobility options you get make me happy (and also send...
it's also a place you can tackle in a bunch of different ways
which is neat
supple dome
servers back on the menu
sick charm
Yeah
supple dome
love how Marion is always there when i do not need him
the moment, the very second, i even consider doing something with him
he's gone
vanished into the night
sick charm
I mean I always have some tiny gears on hand for reinforced hoses
soft chasm
just scavenge dropped items
supple dome
picks shit up
you can fill it with radioactive materials
made a long jump pack, finally, movement
woeful raptor
ohh
supple dome
also got a ||Hyper-dense Neural Chip for Kylie :D||
(later in the game spoilers)
gonna ||grab her the next time i play||
candid temple
I was considering swapping out ||Kylie|| for the lava lamp going to Residence Sector, I swapped my Cube instead and it immediately pulled in clutch with the Krasue
still igloo
Ditto - the other trinkets are nice, but the mobility + never needing to worry about recharging headlight, jump/jetpack, energy shield, healing briefcase, or ramrod is just too convenient
Only things that I manually recharge nowadays is my personal teleporter and laser-based items
woeful raptor
any good way to get huge stacks of basic mats?
tech scrap
metal scrap
that sorta stuff
soft chasm
yes, several
one moment
metal is easiest, kill security bots
this gets you metal + tech + cpu for anvil for 20 metal
- cans for +4 metal if you give a shit
you get hundreds easily if you do the security bot run for a couple nights
tech is just as easy if you're up to praetorium
and if not then just do the manufacturing order farm
1 mil electronic = 3 tech scrap
i don't know what else you define as "that sort of stuff", so if you have questions for specific scrap or whatever lemme know
woeful raptor
ooo very helpful thanks
i just need the battery to set up tesla kill zones for the bots
hmm
staplers i know how to get, rebar is kind of an issue?
you can trade for it but anomalies are kind of annoying to search for since it's not always consistent where they spawn ime
silver is also troublesome
soft chasm
silver is also troublesome
for both of these, your ideal solution is train runs
and hydroplant bots for rebar
brittle comet
https://tenor.com/view/chester-don%27t-starve-gif-3197168880906620682
the luggage is here to help
umbral narwhal
I contained ||both of the|| friends!
||Now I need to figure out how to craft lots of Ice Cream||
Anyone know where to get sugar and eggs?
soft chasm
||Now I need to figure out how to craft lots of Ice Cream||
don't bother
just raid flathill for it
||sugar is only from a specific fish butcher||
eggs are easy though, that's just rise
and you get a trillion eggs once you have the farm up
umbral narwhal
just raid flathill for it
That's only 2 every half a week though.
soft chasm
i usually see 3
but i've seen 1
anyway yeah, 2/reset is plenty
||the containment units have ~8 bars and lose 1 bar a day||
umbral narwhal
Hmmm, I'll need to figure out how to activate the rise portal. I know where it is in Co-Op but one of the other players handled activating it.
soft chasm
||1 greyeb/ice cream fills have the tank||
||so ice cream 2/week goes slightly positive||
if you are super concerned with getting a huge stockpile, however
umbral narwhal
Ah nice, that's good.
Still probably want to stockpile some for cooking.
soft chasm
||sugar comes from moon fish, which you can find in caves||
||and in the office sector swimming pool at night||
oak parcel
Oops was supposed to be a reply let's try that again
oak parcel
any good way to get huge stacks of basic mats?
Run flathill, give me a bit to wake up and eat and I'll post some screenshots of my route
sick charm
Hydroplant bots are easy to kill with a carbon pick and a night pass
oak parcel
this is all super early game but i'll still spoiler it all ||ok so i start by grabing the ethinol from the garrage and looting the filing cabnet in there too, then enter the grocerie store theres cans of peas and salt on the left theres an mre next to the corpse on the right|then head throught the door way here at the back||
||the restrooms has another ethinol and hydrochloric the checkout counter has a computer some 9mm a pot and pan and some pipes the manager's office usually has a stapler||
oak parcel
||i usually skip the icecream store though endgame that may change (spoilers), you then want to come back out and climb this unlockable ladder||
||it will take you up to the roof that has the last building in the normal progression path, enter inside head to the floor with the computers and clear them out and head back out side to here, put a cloth rope, it will persist through resets||
||take it down and enter arcade, the men's room has a ethinol in the stall furthest from the door, the woman's has a hydrocloric under the sink, hit the manager's office and the storage room||
||outside ignore the first portal and you want to take this ladder down to the second floor of the roof (more pipes if you need them) and take that portal||
||from here enter the yellow door and take the ladder down, theres ethinol and hydrocloric at the bottom, follow the stairs down clear out the computers on the counter and in the room behind it||
||through these double doors is a symphonist spawn point they arent always there but they can be at the end of the hall or in the last room on the left. the first room on the left has a few computers each of the other rooms has atleast on stapler back right has 2||
||you then either teleport out or run out||
oak parcel
yeah they have a very short agro range
sick charm
I’ve seen one spawn ||on top of the stairwell, room behind the front desk, one of the four side rooms….||
oak parcel
but yeah run that path every reset and you'll be fine on most early game resources
also run train
also ||if you want to alter the path to have all the power cells grab 2 rope plants run the final room once use one rope plant just to the right of the last powercell then use a second to get down from where that lands you||
woeful raptor
ooo thank yall for helping me out on this
i gotta check if i can up the reset frequency
sick charm
Remember to grab the backpack from the rats
To get the 30 slot inventory
Honestly as you progress
You probably won’t be able to visit every portal world before reset anyways
sick charm
You need to kill them in a very specific
woeful raptor
i even upped the item stack sizes and im still worrying about space
sick charm
Ritualized manner
sick charm
First
You get a net gun
You shoot the rat with a net gun
And while they are writhing around electrified
Bash them in the head with a club
To death
Keep shooting nets on them if they break free
They must be entangled before they die
This is the only method to acquire the backpack
sick charm
It must be specifically a blunt weapon too
sick charm
I think I just whacked them with a pipe wrench
woeful raptor
i got one lying around i think
oak parcel
its the one thing 1h blunt if good for
woeful raptor
time to make a net gun
oak parcel
shadow gate spoilers ||is there a way to open this door?||
umbral narwhal
Setting up my ||teleporter pads|| has reminded me how much stuff is in Labs.
||So far I've placed one pad near the vacuum door to security for easy access to the exchangers and rise. One in the containment labs for Furniture Store and Space Queen, and one in Mycofields||
sick charm
i'd honestly ahve put one in voussoir before Rise
umbral narwhal
That's one of my earlier pads
sick charm
unfortunately not many "safe" location for you to pace a teleporter pad in voussoir
umbral narwhal
Canaan, Voussoir, and Fathill were the first ones I set up.
I put it next to the entry portal
umbral narwhal
Do the turrets work against the annoying shield guys?
sick charm
not sure
shield guys don't spawn inside lab anyways
never seen on on the third floor anyways
sick charm
it's the floor with the photon receptors
supple dome
man i got Kylie for our multi playthrough thinking she still had the pre-1.0 effect
did not realize they buffed her
soft chasm
they didn't buff her, they swapped her effect with the pet rock
supple dome
i just thought her effect was going to be less useful
feel a bit bad nabbing her when i only really wanted to have the dialogue stuff
oak parcel
pet rock falls off hard as you get up in levels imo
supple dome
gonna swap my lightning spear for a Lodespear
it seems, very cool
plus it matches my armor more
still igloo
its the one thing 1h blunt if good for
Isn't the Ramrod the highest-damage 1h weapon in the game?
oak parcel
1h melee, yes by 2 damage
still igloo
1h melee, yes by 2 damage
Plus 30 electric damage
oak parcel
well if we want to get technical the quill spear can do 150
still igloo
Doesn't that prevent using a shield?
oak parcel
probably
still igloo
Honestly, Ramrod probably needs a nerf, it outshines all the other 1h weapons by such a wide margin
Although I'm admittedly still very unclear what the upgrade to the lightning spear actually changes
oak parcel
imo its pretty far down on the list of things that need nerfs
still igloo
I don't disagree there
oak parcel
lightning spear goes from single target to chain lightning
still igloo
There are some much worse offenders
I'm pretty sure the lightning spear already has chain lightning
It could be a larger search radius or something
oak parcel
all the 1h stuff fell to the side with the sprint attack
few things i would fight in melee survive a sprint attack with the carbon pick
candid temple
Hm, I wish I knew what the game determines are "Pets" for the Core Companion
I assume just the Pests and Skink though
I wish you could pick up tamed Pests like the Skink, then my dream of a Pest Army could be realized
sick charm
I assume just the Pests and Skink though
Nope
Any summons also count
Like the one summoned through ||exor armor||
soft chasm
I wish you could pick up tamed Pests like the Skink, then my dream of a Pest Arm...
lmfao imagine pests as a stackable throwing weapon
candid temple
New grenade dropped places Volatile Pest
soft chasm
still igloo
lmfao imagine pests as a stackable throwing weapon
If this were a vacuum upgrade I would never use another weapon again
candid temple
Vacuum upgrade to pick up tamed pests
supple dome
realized that the problem with finding the trade things has already been solved in game
deployable beacon my beloved
supple dome
huh, you can kinda sequence break into some kind of cold area by the manufacturing west tram
oak parcel
i think thats a residence sector thing
supple dome
probably
i started to freeze to death immediately so i left
also managed to make the spare teleporter for Vossuior and the teleporter for my friend who didn't have one, great success
gonna go attune the teleporter
put on some anti-cold armor, the cold is still lethal
makes sense really
kept getting stuck in loading zones and died so imma grab my stuff and leave
sick charm
put on some anti-cold armor, the cold is still lethal
I think the chill of the residence sector ignores cold resistance
you just die
candid temple
Yeah, I also found that way into the residence sector by the Blacksmith
supple dome
fucking hell, managed to use the jump pack to get all the way over to the portal place
candid temple
I had full cold resist and still was dying
Also, according to the wiki, ||hardlight bridges|| can be put on walls?
Which massively changes my plans for extra bases, as I can make any area impenetrable
supple dome
alright, i got the teleporter for Voussuior set up
candid temple
Also finally learned battery mechanics and might restructure my power outlets now
candid temple
I had full cold resist and still was dying
Also, dying in the Residence Sector would put me back at the initial spawn point for Residences, so I unlocked the door to it way before we could go there
candid temple
I totally get why they did the supercold but it does feel a little cheap
supple dome
yeah
supple dome
made a charging station
wired some funny cables across the room but it's aight
really rather nice being able to charge everything
also made a carbon battery to hook up to this so we can charge at night too
just upgrading stuff at the base and doing some QoL stuff atm tbh
supple dome
forgot how fucking dogshit the snipers in Hydroplant are
sick charm
forgot how fucking dogshit the snipers in Hydroplant are
I used one simple trick that made them entirely easy
Invis armor
woeful raptor
so
got to a room with a bunch of portal holders but they dont have portals in them
but there is this like
cherry blossom tree
what the fuck is torii
sick charm
Yeah
Its a pretty, large mirror world
Where you can build freely on it
To make into your base
Lorewise something HORRIBLE happened at Torii btw
But it’s never explained what that is
soft chasm
Lorewise something HORRIBLE happened at Torii btw
is this in the previews or is there a facility log i missed?
because i don't remember it from the teasers
sick charm
Facility logs
soft chasm
huh
sick charm
“We must prevent another Torii incident”
soft chasm
ic ic
sick charm
“Torii incident” keeps getting brought up in random emails
Presumably something horrific
soft chasm
what's the rest of the context of those assorted emails, then?
like when does it get brought up
sick charm
While I am still uncertain of the precise means by which you secured IS-0117, I extend my congratulations. The little we know is enough to be sure that it represents an extraordinary opportunity.
Until further notice, do your best to prevent it communicating on any known mediums. We believe it may attempt contact with other Anteverse 2 entities. In the absence of information, we must assume that this is not the only one of its kind. Indeed, we infer it possesses at least marginal sentience, and is potentially a node in a network of uncertain scope and purpose.
Field suppression equipment must be monitored regularly, lest it take advantage of the entropy delta (we must not repeat a Torii event!).
We are currently determining an effective research program, but must proceed with caution. The existence of this entity must never become widely known by GATE staff, or the scope of our action will be greatly limited. Ignore all requests for information, let alone access. Until such time as this is concluded, you have one task, and one task only - keep this creature chained up.
[email protected]
Copy.```brought up in relative importance to ||the frigging final boss||
supple dome
started going feral for playing the game while my friends are unavailable
started farming materials to optimize our base
running attack with the carbon pickaxe is crazy
oak parcel
yeeeeeep
get sneaking to 15 and its even better
if you hit a symphonist with it right it one shots them
oak parcel
oak parcel
soon as you get e hyperdense neural chip
supple dome
ic ic
oak parcel
i dont get to progress more till wednesday and i've already famed everything and i've not the spoons to max olut some of the skills
supple dome
made it
oak parcel
load bearing concrete
supple dome
real
oak parcel
our game was bugged and they never stopped shooting at the crane
supple dome
rip
oak parcel
so for all of manufacturing till we got there it was shooting
also the machine gun isnt controlled by the repetitive noises slider
oak parcel
that will last you 5 ever
sick charm
our game was bugged and they never stopped shooting at the crane
Tinnitus mg
woeful raptor
whats a good way to get materials for the projection matrix
like liquid crystals and optic lenses since
well--i guess i can amp up the spawn rates
wait thats a different trade
rgrghh im not a fan of salvaging pocket watches since they take up a whole space and dont stack
clever flower
yeah they're the reinforced hose trade
woeful raptor
yeahhhh
clever flower
it's not the best
woeful raptor
the pocket watches are incredibly annoying to farm
clever flower
ohh i forgot about that trade
my strat was just Train Runs for rebar and the like
was back before that updoot
but i guess that's train runs again
but now more productive
so there's that
sick charm
like liquid crystals and optic lenses since
Mushroom dimension
Get all the antewheat
Trade antewheat for anteverse gem
Trade anteverse gem for liquid crystal
Reinforced hose, dunno that’s the real scarcity
woeful raptor
AAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGHHH
sick charm
Probably just do train dimension and hoard all the steel wire
clever flower
Optic Lenses are just One Of Those Guys, I'm kind of shocked they didn't introduce some sort of innate drop somewhere
or craftable
sick charm
Technically
Wessex rifles and broken nvgs can be scrapped for lenses
But those are probably rarer than just doing train world
woeful raptor
stillll those arent stackableeeeeeeeeee
clever flower
oh i forgot the nvgs do, no wonder my partner had been devouring all of them
i rescind my complaint /nod nod
woeful raptor
early labs suuuuuuuuck
sick charm
I’m currently stockpiling all the sniper rounds
I really wanna use my rail rifle
I think I narrowly avoided death by fish
woeful raptor
actually
i think im just going to set power off at night to false
just so im not so taxed on resources since even reinforced hoses have some tedious farming to do
sick charm
Now I just have infinite power source using lasers
oak parcel
iirc you can trade military electronics for the cable and there are a decent amount of hoses around and you get a few from train each time
brittle comet
like liquid crystals and optic lenses since
anteverse wheat from the animal pens, trade that for anteverse gems, then trade those gems for liquid crystal
as for lenses, fleece the train and mines for all the hoses, metal (for screws, especially anvils as those are 20 metal when deconstructed) and rebar
then turn all those into hoses and then trade them to the blacksmith
candid temple
Realizing that anvils are pretty easy to find and scrap to a ton of metal scrap opened my eyes
I have also realized now that we're at the endgame that a whole portal network is probably unnecessary
Like, at most 10 portals
candid temple
Was it electrical and had a big mouth?
woeful raptor
mouth? im not sure
but it was very electrical
gave me a few accuracy levels though i did boost the xp gain by a bunch
candid temple
Was there a rolling blackout event happening?
woeful raptor
yes
sick charm
Well that’s the cause of that event
sick charm
I had to spend a full stack of 9mm ammo to kill it
But I believe it’s vulnerable to blunt damage
soft chasm
is there a better way to kill it
use more gun
soft chasm
that or launch a lot of pests via vacuum
soft chasm
pick a god and pray
supple dome
i have learned how to make popcorn by catching an eel
soft chasm
yeah, you need eel fat for the butter
weird that peccaries or other fish don't have usable fat, but
supple dome
Mhm
Also made a bio-electric spear
I now have my 4 weapons i haven't used before
Lodespear was rad but it got outmoded by the bio-electric spear hard
candid temple
Volt Spear? Yeah it's p good
Weirdest thing about it is that it doesn't do Electric damage
Also I think the VFX for the secondary should be toned down, it blinds me everytime
soft chasm
wait, what damage type does the volt staff's beam do?
oh
psychic
yeah that makes sense
candid temple
Yeah same damage type as Exor beams
I have no idea how much damage it does, but seems to be A Lot
dense ember
it also go through hardlight which is its most prominent feature
sick charm
Oh so yeah definitely gonna be using it over quill spear
dense ember
quill spear still has better damage but yeah
just depend on what you are dealing with
sick charm
Don’t need to carry extra ammo type and it’s good against gatekeepers ins punch
Really like the glitch pack btw
Comes with integrated freezer
And is light enough
I’ve started to make a habit of bringing along a void box when entering a new portal world
Actually bringing a void box will be great for areas like the village where you can expect to find heavy loot
dense ember
huh
huh
so laser do in fact have a crazy level of uses
I only just set up the laser battery and call it a day
I didn't know the infinite energy setup was this easy to, well, set up
candid temple
The laser power converter exploit lets you make a base powered by pests
(Technically you can do that anyway, but w/e)
supple dome
got too many cool weapons to use
oak parcel
I will never not use the anomalous shotgun
supple dome
current setup
sick charm
so laser do in fact have a crazy level of uses
Yeah I got laser emitters powering my base instead of 30 batteries now
Just two batteries per emitter
sick charm
Ye
supple dome
we haven't even gotten to Jotun yet
dense ember
how long is the stun?
supple dome
no idea
brittle comet
What’s the stun baton useful for
i think it stun locks everything
and it's a second yeah
sick charm
Oh cool
brittle comet
You can basically just hit an enemy with the stun baton, switch to a different melee and get a free hit in
sick charm
I only found enough batons to make two
Think my friends picked them up and threw them away haha
brittle comet
I'm not sure about robots or anything other than exors and order goons
sick charm
But with just two I think we can probably stunlock
brittle comet
actually that's not true it can stun symphonists
it's particularly good for exulums (the shotgun guys)
sick charm
Huh
dense ember
hmm
is there like, at any point and circumstances where Field Battery is useful?
well i guess in security which is right after lab i suppose
sick charm
I saw it
Finally
The elusive dark water beast
Saw its massive tail fin swish in the distance as it slinked away to the depths
dense ember
oh yeah, does like, the swimming goggle actually works underwater now
because it is so hard to see thing underwater with your normal eyes now
sick charm
No ifea
Diving suit doubles as swimming goggles anyways
So I never bothered to wear it
candid temple
is there like, at any point and circumstances where Field Battery is useful?
My opinion is that if you can carry field batteries, you can carry a charger
dense ember
I guess it's really only useful for in security sector then
if you stay that long inside it
sick charm
Barely recharges nvgs tbh
supple dome
gods i fucking hate getting grabbed by the stupid security robots
sick charm
they changed the melee animation on that
so they telegraph it a lot more
so you have plenty of time to back off out of its range
unless you get cornered or smth
candid temple
The robot grab is too funny for me to be mad at it
Getting put in timeout
Also it works on other humans, like the Order soldiers
supple dome
gonna level up my cooking xp
decided to simply go on a rampage, collect meat, and cook it
i really want that chef knife
it has a 0% chance to give bio scrap according to the wiki
supple dome
ye
gonna get them next time we play
filling our freezer with cooked stuff
and popcorn
sick charm
i got six freezers in torii
sick charm
what you need hexwood for
supple dome
stove
supple dome
ayyo
supple dome
you can upgrade the antique shotgun 👀
sick charm
yes
sick charm
I think I blasted through canaan with just the shotgun
supple dome
woe, carbon pickaxe be upon ye
sick charm
stealth carbon pickaxe too
after running through voussoir multiple times like a psychopath and with the sigil equipped I have more shotgun ammo and 5.56 thn I know what to do with
sick charm
30 damage per tick and fires a beam that lasts 2 ticks so 60 damage total right
great for a sidearm I guess
was wondering how it felt to fire
woeful raptor
- build a bunch of tesla coils
- base raids are made of enemies immune to electricity
it's so fucking over for me
sick charm
lmao
sick charm
I think I need to build more laser turrets
tbh
I only have three around torii
and 4 disc turrets
could use one out back facing the backyard lake
woeful raptor
are the grinder turrets infinite or do i have to resupply them
sick charm
infinite
lower damage than actual grinder though
and slow firing
laser turrets much better
woeful raptor
guess ill wait until lasers
sick charm
range on it also seems pretty bad compared to lasers
which shoots pretty far
speaking of I need to farm some cement
supple dome
time to go break tables for table legs
mama needs a new set of 4 frying pans
think i need to make a visit to the hidden village for some meat
time to rip and tear until it is done
sick charm
I've put a void chest in the hidden village
in a hidden location
just for farming transcendium
candid temple
The antique shotgun upgrade is actually hilarious
supple dome
what it do?
candid temple
||2% chance to do 10,000 Explosive Damage||
woeful raptor
it sounds incredibly funny to just stumble upon
supple dome
i have to have it
candid temple
Triggered shortly after upgrading while fighting a Jotun
candid temple
Jotun was no longer in this plane of existence and neither of us were sure what happened
supple dome
i need to get that
candid temple
It, like, whites out your vision with the loudest sound ever
supple dome
fucking astounding
candid temple
I didn't believe the Jotun dropped some grenades because grenades have never done that