I wanna build clockwork soldiers
#Abiotic Factor
sick charm
dense ember
there's one interesting thing with the laser katana and laser cannon
||you can't recharge them with electric recharger, you have to recharge them with LASER||
sick charm
Can you build a ||laser emitter||
dense ember
yes
dense ember
||you basically have to recharge a laser battery by shooting the laser emitter at it.||
dense ember
||this means you can't just recharge it the old way, but laser battery IS a laser battery and you can carry it around to immediately charge laser weapons.||
sick charm
Oh huh
So it’s like carrying ||extra mags for your weapons||
I imagine it’ll be hard to field produce the device needed to recharge
dense ember
||in a way, yes, recharge instantly too, so no need to wait for old recharge time||
||and you can deploy it immediately, no screwdriver necessary.||
||you still probably don't want to put it too close to frontline and get it blown up though.||
sick charm
What’s the ||material for the laser pistol btw, wanna know what to keep an eye out for||
Most inordinately excited for the tiny ||pew pew gun||
To the point of considering sneaking into sec sector without my friend to grab it
dense ember
hold up, let me check
||it's something you will find very quickly, don't worry about it, it's shiny.||
sick charm
Nothing follows you out of security sector right
dense ember
||the guy like darkness, don't worry, leyak won't be in there with you too.||
sick charm
Have you gone into the waters of hydroplane yet btw
dense ember
alright, time to fish tomorrow
sick charm
Friends a bit thalassophobic
dense ember
I have finished hydro sector already, it's dark as shit
sick charm
But we need to venture into the waters to grab seaweed so we can make sushi
No idea where to find rice though
dense ember
||there's a big guy but think of it as a whale, a whale is docile, but is also like a million pound and will kill you accidentally.||
sick charm
So stay away from|| the evil whale||
There’s a fishing level 15 thing that says ||underwater creature will stop seeing you as a threat||
dense ember
No idea where to find rice though
I will just say it takes a while, got one growing right now for whatever meal I'm making tomorrow
dense ember
yes
unkempt lily
good god these defense bots are a nightmare
I found security fun but a little underwhelming for how hyped up it was
the hydroplant though, this is the shit
sick charm
So bring electric weapons right
For those defense bots
Not sure if the close range combat against them is a good idea though
The trailer shows them shooting fucking grenades
dense ember
you want to ||aim for their backpack.||
woeful raptor
wait whats special about the carbon pickaxe?
unkempt lily
it does a ton of damage and uses way less stamina than most heavy weapons
woeful raptor
ahh gotcha gotcha
unkempt lily
okay it is very funny that (hydro spoilers) ||the journal entry describes someone speaking french as strange and cryptic, just because I happen to speak french and can understand her warnings! I would heed them||
unkempt lily
whoa (gate security crate spoilers) ||incredibly cool||
sick charm
Creamy Inkfish is a pretty good food item I think
Oh heck
Gonna farm those
Single headshot wihh the ||laser pistol|| kills zombies
dense ember
head shot with most thing would kill zombie really
sick charm
So
dense ember
also, apparently, the new rice plant can be found in earlier place now too as old map got updated...
dense ember
a couple, gonna check it out later
apparently some are ||located through the mine portal||
sick charm
The ||portal at the bottom of the pool?||
dense ember
||the one you use to get in the locked up manufactory area through underground train line||
||the big box in the middle||
||you meet a scientist there before going into the portal||
sick charm
Huh
Well I am not sure where that is but I did find ||a rice seed by one of the random blue pools in the open mine area||
just cooking up some nice plates of creamy ink pasta
of course it is a weird alien rice
Found a fish soup recipe
||portalfish, whole, tomato, and potato||
dense ember
oh huh
||also found the rice seed at the blue pool in the far mine, guess there's ntohing underground.||
sick charm
I remember seeing the plant at the mushroom world
So I’m headed there to check
I forgot to bring my heat suit last time lmao
Hm
Harvested rice but I guess I gotta steam it first
Hmm
Not there I guess
Sushi acquired
But at what cost
sick charm
Soup
Add raw rice to water in pot
So far I’ve made ||fogiri|| and ||Fr-eyed Rice||
First is a deployable dish like
Pies
But made straight from the chef’s table
Eating it ||summons the fog as your next weather event||
So feel free 5o eat a bunch if that’s your thing
The second gives you ||underwater vision||
It also cures an absurd 100 points of hunger
But I know what I’m bringing to hydroelectric plant now
Haven’t found any other recipes just yet
I imagine there will be more once I have access to nori
dense ember
grab as much murkweed as you can when diving, you will need a lot of it, whether for cooking or otherwise
also just training my fishing and cooking skill right now, serving seconds seems so good
extra 2 portions for soup or portion meal, holy shit that's a powerful buff
the irony is that the more you want to level up your cooking skill, the more the game makes you less necessary to cook more...
what the, what was that
some tiny purple swirling thing appeared at my feet and my food instantly cooked
that was weird, but I don't mind that if that's some kind of random bonuses
ya know what's the most surprisingly thing with laser katana? attacking with it gives you blunt exp
finally, I can actually leveling up my blunt skill
finally cooked the rice and what the hell is this colour
goddamn rainbow ass rice
dense ember
sushiiiii
these are gigantic piece even, nobody would serve this portion in restaurant
dense ember
finally fished the chordfish
this is some warframe ass fishes
and apparently you can complete a piece of its organ into an organ key for the composer chest
which sounds far easier to do than hunting a symphonist
so this is what all the leyak essence is for
dense ember
I'm so annoyed at the sniper at hydro, I think i will actually figure out how to make electric floor trap this time and just cover their spawn with it
unkempt lily
@dense ember , you've beat hydro right? what do I ||actually have to do with the neutrio emitter? I put it by the transmitter but it still says radiation interference||
oh nevermind I can't read, sorry
unkempt lily
holy fuck the laser cannon
sick charm
the energy pistol is actually surprisingly good against most mobs
one shots pests
one shots zombies
has the most easily replenishable ammo etc
unfortunately i'm not sure you get ranged xp from using it
dense ember
nope you don't, same with laser cannon
though unless you are grinding for sniper rifle, you honestly don't need that much accuracy...
i think right now, any ranged weapon that can be recharged basically can't be used to grind accuracy
sick charm
Are ||magbolts|| effective against snipers
sick charm
The energy pistol is also pretty good for dealing with exors I think
Playing with a friend makes security sector pretty easy
One of us salvaged the valuable boxes while the other covered with a pistol
sick charm
Fr-eyed rice really does give you an absurd hunger cure
By comparison cosmato wraps cure 50 points of hunger
Fr-eyed rice cures 100
Only issue with it is that rice seeds seem very difficult to find
But I think I remember seeing another one in the antejuice pool in the mines so I guess I’ll check that place out next
Rice seeds are difficult to find and you can’t get more by harvesting rice
unkempt lily
well I've completed the mainline bit of the new update
unkempt lily
a bit shorter than I would've hoped, but at the same time I imagine it's in no small part because of how much stuff I was grinding waiting for the update
I do also play very cavalierly and skipped a lot of looting
I'm excited to try out all the new stuff though
sick charm
We are also fishing from all the spots
Apparently there’s a fishing spot in the radioactive pits of FORGE
Which is where you get the valuable valuable fish liver
unkempt lily
oh yeah I haven't done any fishing either
sick charm
what does fish liver do?
I have 0 clue
But radioactive fish is the only one you can find them from
dense ember
definitely gonna try to fish them all, though dealing with leyak outside of portal world is gonna be annoying when fishing
sick charm
That’s why I carry a charged makeshift battery and x ray turret when I go fishing
unkempt lily
I wonder if you can fish in the mycofields
sick charm
Portal fish I think can only be fished from the swimming pool at the gym office area
I tried to fish in the fungus world but found only disappointment
Antefish hotspots are pretty much everywhere
Portal fish can be used to make soup
But they have no effect aside from decent hunger and thirst gain
(25 hunger and thirst per sip)
Inkfish can be caught in the night realm and has a low chance of yielding night essence when butchered
Ink fish filets can be cooked with mushroom and milk to make creamy seafood fried fish food
Fishing seems like a great source of meat to raise cooking level real quick
dense ember
yup
sick charm
The leyak can also be fished and yield leyak essence when butchered
dense ember
I don't think that's a literal leyak fish and more something that lives in the same ecosystem
unkempt lily
the fried rice looks like a cruelty squad asset
dense ember
lmao
sick charm
its freyed rice
dense ember
Apparently people are figuring out how to break the game and get infinite energy through laser
It's like that one mirrored laser lipstick scene in Totally Spy that makes absolutely no sense
sick charm
Apparently people are figuring out how to break the game and get infinite energy...
Yeah
You use ||laser splitters linking into three power converters which will output as much energy as three separate outlets||
Oh my fucking GOD
THEY DID IT
BEST UPSATE EVER
unkempt lily
what did they do?
sick charm
Oven ||now dings when food is done||
sick charm
huh
thte Tram system came before Gate Cascade facility
so they built hte research facility around the magical tram system?
unkempt lily
Presumably it was there when they took over the mine
sick charm
Hmm
I wonder if you can generate infinite energy with a battery and a laser
Laser-splitter-battery-emitter loop
sick charm
So presumably the reaper ||sends people to its dimension|| to turn into shades right
sinful totem
Oven ||now dings when food is done||
whoa sound the good update alarm
dense ember
Food also take a much longer time to get burned now
dense ember
there's also a new emplacement that can nullify radiation, so no more wearing rad suit near fridge
unfortunately for some reason, staring at it cause a bit of lag, so until they fix that, I will keep wearing rad suit
dense ember
found a trick to level up stealth real quickly in burst
just sneak behind a robot station and hold down electric thrower
the robot get stunlocked in its activation animation and you get stealth attack exp every hit
about 300 per security bot and 700 for containment bot, more with exp boost
strategy like this is starting to be necessary due to how goddamn long it will take to level things up to level 15
sneaking on top of arcade (use jetpack for easy access) and using the composer to train stealth also works, probably faster since you don't need to walk all over the damn place, though sometimes the composer will spot you
unkempt lily
I personally like in front of the courthouse for afk stealth grinding
unkempt lily
I'm so tempted to relocate my entire base into the ||world in the mirror||
dense ember
too much of a hassle to move honestly
I'm gonna stay where I am for the rest of the game
also my electric system is like, absolutely fucked
I don't even know where is going what at this point
unkempt lily
that's kinda where I'm at vis a vis moving, but I'm also like, fully out of space at this point
oak parcel
i'm trying not to be in here too much because spoilers but someone savve me from fishing hell
unkempt lily
oh actually I guess there's no water there either
yeah that's 100% not worth it then
sick charm
i'm trying not to be in here too much because spoilers but someone savve me from...
uh
what in particular do you need help with
i feel like i'm the local fishing expert now
oak parcel
i finally got it all ||been fishing for the maestro set||
unkempt lily
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
sick charm
ahh i see you found the ||shit dimension||
unkempt lily
I sure did lol
honestly this thing seems like a straight downgrade to the standard ||toilet||
woeful raptor
also my electric system is like, absolutely fucked
let me sort your electric system 😏 i have not reached the lasers but i am completely, wholly, and flawlessly certified to handle them
||oh thats what they meant by a portal toilet.|| i cant wait to reach that
unkempt lily
while there's genuinely 0 reason to do so, it's super easy to farm the tarrasque with the deatomizer
dense ember
nice
hopefully we can do something with the ichor eventually
there's apparently roaming trader in the next update
so more chance to sell off some vendor trash
sick charm
I’m still guessing we would be able to build stationary teleporters
So that we don’t have to carry multiple emergency personal teleporters to move around bases
dense ember
Stationary teleporter looks like it's gonna be a thing next update
Okay, giving magbow another try, now that I know shift can be used to actually let you aim shit
sick charm
Shift can be used to do what now
dense ember
You can hold shif to make the scope in magbow to not shake around so much
this is not mentioned anywhere in game
I still won't recommend you using it to countersnipe sniper
sick charm
Using a shield seems to be much better against snipers
What do you do once you reach the ||room with a composer|| in hydroplant
oak parcel
my favorite bit of fridge logic from abiotic: how the fuck the trams work
dense ember
What do you do once you reach the ||room with a composer|| in hydroplant
Avoid, go around
Do not go, beware of dragon
dense ember
my favorite bit of fridge logic from abiotic: how the fuck the trams work
Tram in Abiotic makes no goddamn sense and I would love it if it remains unexplained all the way to 1. 0 on how tyey just float without rail
oak parcel
i love it
i remember one day i was like "i wonder if i can cheese on the tram rail to get places.... wait where- WAT"
dense ember
It's gonna be like Gilgamesh, how it was such a common knowledge that nobody bothered to write it down until 5000 years later, someone rediscovered someone's homework on him
sick charm
my favorite bit of fridge logic from abiotic: how the fuck the trams work
It predates the facility
So the facility was built atop the tram system. Gate did not build it
dense ember
Apparently the whole plant was a lithium mine
Lithium mine so valuable they built a whole damn dam underground
This is before Gate
oak parcel
also anyone have any good throwing skill farms? preferably before security sector
i'm still only like level 2 in it
dense ember
One suggestion is to grab the pencil crossbow bolt and throw it at your feet to train both throwing and endurance (whatever it is called, forgot at the moment) at once
You can throw net, but they bounce all over the place and stakc to 16 only
Or 20
Also grab a vacuum
Easier than picking up one by one
There's no real quick way about it sadly
woeful raptor
god i wish i could have seen what this meant
dense ember
what does that even mean
what happened
also fully trained reload to level 15, I can finally stop interrupting my own reload in panick when running
now I just to... get everything else to a high enough level
I also found that shock trap works on enemy, when they move, meaning when they spawn in on places
so most of the shock trap I have set for the snipers in hydro is basically useless since the sniper will not move at all
gonna take them back and see where else I can use them for
sick charm
Why don’t you just put a disc turret around their spawn
dense ember
because those turret might get damaged eventually
also snipers don't seem to be much of a problem now with the recent hotfix
unkempt lily
oh my god the new charging done noise is so much nicer
oak parcel
Through a bit of testing, if you're running a dedicated server restarting every 3-4 hours seems to give the best stability spawn wise so when a single person is on
also re: snipers, who ever decided one enemy should have excellent range, good damage, laser accuracy, and inflict a heavy bleed that you can fail to treat and is treated into a normal bleed needs to be put on idea probation
also just whoever decided heavy bleed can fail to be treated and persists through dbno
oak parcel
if you're on multiplayer yeah
not far enough for what ever that is
my group restarted this go around we're still in old content
unkempt lily
Oh I see
oak parcel
so it may just be more of a case that that enemy shouldnt be this early in the game
oak parcel
I think it's mostly the bleed that's the issue atleast where I'm at
Though I wouldn't mind it being otherwise left as is but made non hitscan
sick charm
jetpacks obtained for me and my friend
we had to slaughter an ungodly amount of security bots
speaking of, is there a renewable source of motors anywhere
i'm not sure if we'll find enough to make armor for both of us
dense ember
the hydro protal world should have it
otherwise, well, the denizens in that portal world will provide you with armor
sick charm
ooh
well I might not even bother crafting the cascade armor then
seems really expensive
dense ember
it's worth it for the sensor really
sick charm
what's that do
i got extremely sensitive hearing so I tend to have very good idea of where enemies are located anyways
dense ember
huh, interesting, the crumbled darkwater fish is actually a portion meal, so adding in the new sushi, we got 3 portion meals that going to last us for a long time
4 if rice counts as well, that a lot of hunger satisfied
dense ember
oops, just remember that you can't just build bridge on bridge, you can build a bridge against SOMETHING, like a wall, but not just make a thin bridge of nothing
so I can't build a bridge from the neutrino detector place in hydro, shame
unkempt lily
Though I wouldn't mind it being otherwise left as is but made non hitscan
it isn't actually hitscan, but it is really really fast
it's possible to dodge it (while flying) (at super long ranges)
unkempt lily
what's that do
it highlights enemies through walls
also it's just extraordinarily good armour, both very light and really durable
made me give up my bionic legs after all this time
dense ember
no, the final game max level seems to be somewhere around 20 or 25
you totally can level pass the current level 15 limit, but it will do nothing for now until next major update arrives
oak parcel
Also i love that I haven't gotten to the security sector yet, haven't skillfarmed reloading, and I'm already a level past current cap
dense ember
what the heck were you using so frequently to get you to level 16 reload
oak parcel
Scrapshot pistol
unkempt lily
reloading levels stupid fast for some reason
I really hope you can eventually use the barbell machines
levelling strength is tragic
dense ember
throwing is suffering yup
oak parcel
sit in corner throw net, consider life choices
oak parcel
does the ||journal|| that rarely drops from the sniper do anything?
sick charm
Almost at fishing level 12
dense ember
does the ||journal|| that rarely drops from the sniper do anything?
it's just a tiny flavour stuff, you can scrap it for leather
sick charm
I got it from the first sniper I killed this update haha
It was weird though
He wa just standing menacingly in a dark corner as if he was a standard soldier
I walked up to him and then he 360 no scoped me immediately
dense ember
you want to use silenced weapon against them, like melee, otherwise they will react like a goddamn aimbot
alternatively
grenade
sick charm
Yeah I just didn’t know this sniper would be standing right there in the open in a dark corner
dense ember
can't shoot you if you don't even pop over cover
oak parcel
i need to get sneaking to 15
sick charm
Thought he must be some new soldier type so I was curious
Jetpack obtained
With a gravity cube I seem to be able to extend flight duration almost indefinitely
Should easily be able to use it to reach the neutrino detector
unkempt lily
it's a little finnicky but yes you can fly infinitely with it
sick charm
Second sniper I killed dropped his rifle
But I’m not sure how actually useful this thing is
I need to get accuracy all the way up to what
15 just to have the privilege to use this gun?
My friend seems to really like the quill rifle though
Told them we should continue to use the grinder disc to hunt robots though to clear out some inventory space in our ammo crate
dense ember
weirdly, grinder seems to have a bug right now where it gives sharp exp instead of accuracy exp
sick charm
Yeah I did notice that
The pickaxe also gives sharp exp
I’m not sure if that’s intended or not though
dense ember
definitely not
sick charm
I mean you are hitting them with the pointy bit
unkempt lily
pickaxe also causes bleed, so
dense ember
true, but I consider the blunt skill line to be more 'putting all your strength into your swing' than sharp
dense ember
also good lord, I need to use these shotgun shells more
half my conventional ammo chest is just buckshots
and the antique is so lethal that I just can't spend shells faster than I get them
maybe I should start using the order shotgun
sick charm
Antique + grinder disc killed many many robots
Since I had like 50 laser tripmines left over I also used them to slaughter robots easily lmao
unkempt lily
the order shotgun is pretty cool
I genuinely just don't bother with any milspec weapons
sick charm
Yeah
Though I am a bit curious with this sniper rifle
I saw a sniper trying to shoot a defense bot
unkempt lily
why use precious precious resources for ammo in general when you can just use energy weapons
sick charm
The defense bot turned and fired a fucking cruise missiles at the poor bugger
For a moment I thought it fired like a flare or smth
dense ember
it is
more a mortar really
that attack really fucked my plan of trying to use lasermine against them
since the defense bot won't try to chase after you, and will just nuke your gridsquare
sick charm
Why chase after you
When it can just destroy your entire postal code
I used laser mines when I saw one patrolling around enclosed space
unkempt lily
it blew up one of my laser collectors I was using as a portable ammo source
very sad
sick charm
I had the night key so I could just walk up to it
Just saw it’s patrol route
Planted 5 trip mines and ran like hell
5 tripmines seem sufficient to instantly kill it
Haven’t tried with 4
dense ember
the nail trip mine or laser mine?
sick charm
Laser
I had a lot of laser tripmines left over from the era where that was ammo for explosive sledge
dense ember
oh yeah that will do it, you can probably try just 3
2 was enough to destroy containment bot
sick charm
I’ll try 4 next time I go hunting I guess
dense ember
and it doesn't really seem like defense bot has way more health than containment bot, just that it's very hard to use electro thrower against it when it can shoot you
sick charm
Yeah
Trying to electrotheower it went disastrously wrong
And instantly obliterated my friend
dense ember
oh no
sick charm
(I had better twitch reflex so I bolted the moment it looked at me lmao)
unkempt lily
I managed to take one down with the electro thrower one time, but it was a real pain
you stand real close to it and just circle strafe
sick charm
And then I just quill rifled it to death
dense ember
yeah you do not want to fight fair
unkempt lily
ocasionally it'll try to punch you but it's not that bad
sick charm
I just uh
Took cover around a door
Closed it
Waited for it to lose aggro
Came out to shoot its backpack full of quills
Closed the door
Rinsed repeat until death
Nowadays we just slush bomb it and shoot its backpack with shotgun shells while vulnerable
That seems to be the most cost effective kill method
dense ember
how many shot?
sick charm
2-3
And about ten grinder discs
If all the grinder discs land it just takes two shotgun shells
We start retreating the moment I hear the self destruct sequence
But you can also pretty easily solo a defense bot with the slush bombs since it freezes them long enough for you to blast two shots and retreat to reload
sick charm
Yeah
We did talk about like
Setting up Tesla turrets to kill them
But I think we’d need 2-3
dense ember
someone set up like 19 to kill one, in 3 hits
it has to be that fast because otherwise the defense bot will start shooting it up
dense ember
Fishing really gives out like, so much stuffs
I have more fish bones and fish oils than I know what to do with
dense ember
If I remember correctly, you can scrap it for bio scrap?
I really want some way of growing murkweed aaaaa
Or maybe like, a device that attract trash from water surface
Since you can get murkweed from fishing at hydro too
sick charm
Yeah maybe a fish tank or something you can use to grow murkweef
Do dimweed even regrow
Oh you can just fish for them at the submarine bay
oh it improves swimming speed!
woeful raptor
Or maybe like, a device that attract trash from water surface
fishing boat and net would be nice
just got to hydro
explored the lower access part a bit, opened the door to see a laser dot twitching over to my face and ducked back
they weren't kidding those snipers can snipe
i wonder if it'd be possible to set up a bunch of walls to erase los
sick charm
This laser katana cuts through soldiers like hot knife through butter
oak parcel
I found a really good afk stealth farm spot, if you go to flathill to the building you get the first power cell from the statue out front, you can jump on the bench then on the half circle then on the back of the statue and just stay crouched there and the ||composer|| walking back and forth is in range for xp for a decent portion of its walk but far enough away it never sees you
woeful raptor
I'll be sure to use that when winter rolls around
given how even after optimization it heats up my pc the same temp elden ring does
sick charm
Heheh
Shooting a soldier with laser rifle at max power setting
They just pop
My power supply also goes pop
A breacher now dies with two swings from my katana
dense ember
Laser katana genuinely fuck so hard
Unless you are fighting enemy at range, I don't think you actually need to carry the deatomizer around
sick charm
we shot the yeti with the laser rifle
it popped in like 3 seconds
the scientist hiding in the cave was like "oh noooo fighting it would be suicide... there's no way to escape this mountain!!!"
and hyped up the battle
and then it just popped in like 3-5 seconds of sustained high powered laser fire
dense ember
to be fair, the first thing you go there, you probably won't have laser weapon
you do have the ||super molotov cocktail|| though
sick charm
Indeed
Well first time we went there we had to kill soldiers for their clothes before we froze to death
Since we are both thalassophobic we decided not to grind up sea weed for the cold clothes
And instead brought heater shields and quill rifles
Which worked well
Quill rifles evaporates soldiers
I think I like laser rifles better though
sick charm
hell
instead of swimming to the neutrino detector
we opted to use jet packs, gravity cube, and a jump pad to comfortably fly our way to it
dense ember
I also recommend getting rope plant
sick charm
For what?
dense ember
so if you drop into the water, you still can get in through the rope
sick charm
Ah
sick charm
How easy is it to kill a defense bot with a laser rifle
dense ember
I recommend slushie first
a full charge from deatomizer is not enough
better slushy and then shoot its back
sick charm
Okay so probably stick with shotgun for the burst damage the
Slushie is a given ofc
Been curious about viability of setting up some laser turrets
dense ember
yeah that's one good thing
but also, not like you need a lot of oil anyway
so it's kinda just, there
sick charm
Oh the fish liver acts as a radiation cure
dense ember
yup!
unfortunately, they can rot!
and fishing in the radpool is hard because the exor sometimes just decided to hate you and it's very hard to see hotspot due to how damn bright the pool is
funniest part is you would expect the radfish to be, well, radioactive from liviing in radioactive sludge
but somehow it's not
sick charm
Cooking seems a bit glitched
oak parcel
If only you could turn somthing into ethanol or w/e it is
dense ember
seems fine to me, what's the problem, what were you trying to cook/bake?
oak parcel
dont need it for cooking need it for antirad and duct tape
dense ember
oh no, the message is for charlie
sick charm
seems fine to me, what's the problem, what were you trying to cook/bake?
nothing cooks
dense ember
whuh
sick charm
literally nothing works
dense ember
that's very weird
oak parcel
are you walking away from it?
sick charm
no
those pots of stew have been cooking for about several in game days
the meat about the same time
makeshift battery never depelted
oak parcel
just to confirm you've been standing next to them for several ingame days?
sick charm
ye
oak parcel
have you tried picking them up and putting them back down?
dense ember
I think it has more to do with how the tick rate of time seems to be just broken
sick charm
yeah before waiting several times
dense ember
not sure what the heck to do besides waiting for a fix
if you are hungry, I guess the vending machine is there, just in case
oak parcel
can someone remind me where this thing in manufacturing connects to ?
dense ember
lab sector, you will find the shortcut very quickly
sick charm
Huh
Or maybe it’s the location?
I moved the stove to somewhere else and it works fine
or maybe its the fact that they are currently powered by lasers at the moment...?
I did notice the problem after I powered them up with a laser power converter
Yeah 100% have to do with laser power emitters
The moment I rewired to use traditional electric wiring at the old location everything started working
dense ember
oh yeah, laser is like, weird right now
maybe it's not providing enough power or something
turrets apparently don't work when being powered by splitted laser
sick charm
Yeah I was powering up the stove with split laser
And it seems to have caused them to stop working
Aww damn I broke my pretty setup to try and fix this
The new lab desks had spawned right on top of where I placed the portable stoves
Making them look like real counter tops but I broke them 😦
dense ember
ah
sick charm
Although I suppose I could just turn on item respawn on and eventually the desks should respawn on top of it
I think that’s how it works anyways
oak parcel
lab sector, you will find the shortcut very quickly
either i'm blind or they changed it
unkempt lily
do you want more hints?
dense ember
it's like the very moment you encounter ||Leyak||, or rather, where she used to be
oak parcel
like i've had it connected in a previous run i just cant find the other end again
dense ember
it's ||the room above her containment that you need to go to open the rest of the entrance to the lab||
oak parcel
thank you i missed it initially and didnt backtrack that far looking for it
woeful raptor
minor hydroplant area spoilers - check out the ragdoll
dense ember
and finally maxed out cooking, fishing, shooting, reloading, and strength
these perks are incredibly useful
espiecially the cooking perk, need even less stuff for portion meals now
my base is just gonna get covered in more soup pot and cake and pizza now
sick charm
You should use pizza to make a carpet
dense ember
lmao
sick charm
My friend complained to me that I put cookies on their bed
So I’m gonna put a cake on there next time
dense ember
I would absolutely just spend more time boiling soup and baking stuff
if not for the fact that I simply is not capable of finishing them all
sick charm
Real conversation between me and my friend yesterday
Friend: “can you set up another charging laser for my laser collector”
Me: “okay where do you want it”
Friend: “I dunnow, somewhere we won’t trip over the laser”
Me: “okay I’ll build it by your bed then.”
Does deatomizer have damage falloff btw
dense ember
I just used it to countersnipe sniper, so probably not
in fact, I don't think anything in game right now has damage falloff
if you can hit it, you can hit it hard
would be weird to implement damage falloff with the game unique aiming system I guess, it's kinda counterproductive.
unkempt lily
my base has become such a mess with lasers
does anyone know of a good place to farm steel cable? best I've got is like, 4 from the train
still igloo
You can trade military electronics for it at the forge
woeful raptor
and rise has a bunch of order guys
still igloo
I've found my group just slowly acquires a pile of them no matter where we go, since we don't currently use any of the consumables that take military electronics
So between the radios you can smash for them and our general tendency to fight anything that moves they build up
These interns are out for blood
unkempt lily
oh yeah I have no shortage of military electronics
still igloo
Unrelated, but the change that gives you exp for breaking objects is so nice
I've gone from Blunt Weapons 3 to like 8 in the course of cleaning out Storage Sector C in ||Security||
woeful raptor
might just put away the vacuum bc of the exp
still igloo
Yeah, as delightful as the vacuum is this is the only way I'll ever get blunt weapons to catch up with sharp
Btw, is the ||Research Pack|| still the best backpack?
still igloo
Ah right
unkempt lily
there is a bigger backpack though
still igloo
Radiation isn't that bad, and flight seems like a sidegrade, so probably worth investing in ||Research Packs|| for the rest of my squad
Oh wait there is?
How big? And how much weight reduction?
still igloo
Ooooh
I will be able to stave off the encroachment of ammo, tools, and utility into my loot space for just a bit longer
(At this point I leave base with a full hotbar, including fanny pack, and two full rows of stuff in my backpack. It's a struggle.)
unkempt lily
lol
I leave a slot in my hotbar for general things, and only have a row and a bit in my inventory
it's a bit more right now in case I end up getting to go back to the ||shit ocean realm||
still igloo
My hotbar is sledge for breaking stuff, splints, teleporter, military cot, then "oops all weapons"
And as the team mom, my backpack is a row and a half of healing items and food/water, then a second teleporter and ammo for myself
sick charm
My hot bar now has laser weapons and laser collectors
And a combat knife I use for breaking stuff
And an emergency teleported
X ray lamp
still igloo
Is there a reason to hang onto the X-ray lamp after ||you've farmed enough night essence||? Assuming at least one squad member has one for emergency ||Leyak|| deterrence?
still igloo
Darn, I'll probably need to get around to crafting one then
Unless ||Fishing 15|| works as an alternative
Though I'll likely not actually spend the time to get the latter anyway
dense ember
okay, just went hunting defense bot with shotgun
so at very minimum, all you need is one slushie and 2 shots very and I mean VERY point blank shot with shotgun straight to the backpack, then you just ran
that's enough to cause the bot to self destruct
I tested this with order shotgun, so antique probably does a better job at its with its higher damage
HOWEVER, I also notice one thing when farming bot this way
you still get the tier 3 CPU, but other resource seems to be dramatically lessened
so farming defense bot by sheer damage straight to its chassis (preferably by laser mine or electron grenade) is still a good idea if you are farming components for cascade armor and other things
still igloo
Has anyone else found electro-pests randomly instagibbing them from full hp this update? I'm wondering if it's the thorns bug again, since I've been wearing carapace armor
dense ember
carapace armor does pretty much instantly kill off pest if they ram into you
though instagibbing them? never heard of that
still igloo
No, electropests have been instagibbing me
Wondering if they're somehow causing the thorns loop that was theoretically fixed
oak parcel
I haven't seen the issue but am not using carapace armor
oak parcel
I need more carry weight
dense ember
same :c
I guess when wearing large capacity backpack, the extra slot are mostly for lightweight ammo and supply, because most of the time I just wear the jetpack now and the 24 slots available is already enough due to the weight limit
oak parcel
I'm the team mom so I have a bunch of light stuff and a few heavy things, but I also run heavy weapons, I frequently leave base a few points short of yellow weight
I miss my makeshift armor buff
unkempt lily
holy crap
okay the hydroplant is so cool
I thought I'd found everything, apparently I hadn't
dense ember
it's very big
unkempt lily
I may have finally found a worthwhile replacement for the gravity cube
neon frost
Heyo heyo, just started the game today, how are folk doing?
unkempt lily
10/10, this is genuinely one of my favourite games
sick charm
LASERS
woeful raptor
Heyo heyo, just started the game today, how are folk doing?
i just got nuked
sick charm
We have our own individual player groups I think
neon frost
Fair
unkempt lily
I'm playing solo until the game is done and I can rope some irl friends into it
unkempt lily
oh yeah I guess the radio pack won't work with those
I just carry around a charged collector tbh
neon frost
Im trying to bug some friends into it, i like the game but it is nigh impossible for me to stick longterm without a group
woeful raptor
i get that yeah
unkempt lily
Heavy though
strength xp :p
unkempt lily
wow with this new update it's actually so easy to grind skills
Eating brains isn't new, but I do love it
unkempt lily
huh, did you know there's a power socket up here?
sick charm
Im more concerned about the lasers
unkempt lily
most of the lasers are doing normal laser things
one of them is pointed at the ceiling because I don't want to run my neutrio emitter until the performance gets fixed
still igloo
Anyone know what exactly the "secondary blow" the impact hammer does against weakened enemies does?
unkempt lily
I truly do not
still igloo
Alas
unkempt lily
Sometimes the hammer plays a different noise
dense ember
I just use the better pipe stick for that
sick charm
yes but why bring a pipe stick and a knife
when you can bring two knives
but I did notice that you can butcher enemies with the laser rifle
still igloo
That should get you burnt meat
still igloo
Sometimes the hammer plays a different noise
I know it's not, but I'm really hoping it's the squeaky hammer sound
woeful raptor
im sure you can mod it in given how they have their bootup intro as a mp4 in an open folder
oak parcel
why bring two knives when you could bring one and a stack of duct tape
unkempt lily
god getting to crafting 15 is a nightmare
I think I might just let that one come about naturally rather than grinding it
dense ember
oh yeah it's a fucking nightmare
I think I will let that happen naturally too
it's just too much
also, I was think about how weapons in Abiotic Factor referenced weapons you get in Half-Life
and even the gun you get in the latest update have their counterpart in the original half-life too
I'm just wondering when we are getting a rocket launcher
a 9mm SMG with grenade launcher would be a nice upgrade to the current SMG while still making it worth it for players to pick up all the 9mm round left on the gorund
unkempt lily
I've been contemplating if it would be possible to beat the game as is following the floor is lava rules
my conclusion so far is that if you allow yourself a bit of fudging for falling out of portals and vents in general, the answer is yes once you get out of the cafeteria (assuming you get lucky on furniture breaking)
oak parcel
oh for leveling crafting you can do the wood > paper>cloth>bandages path
dense ember
how much exp would that give you though?
oak parcel
i think each step there is 5xp but its all easy stuff to get in bulk
dense ember
hmmm, well I guess there's that
gonna do the math on a full stack of wood to bandage tomorrow to see how much that actually gives you
oak parcel
and you can semi afk it, just favorite them and craft 10 at a time
its not like first aid or throwing
dense ember
also like, yeah, wood is everywhere, but also a whole table surprisingly don't give a lot of wood
unkempt lily
oh for leveling crafting you can do the wood > paper>cloth>bandages path
The way I've been doing it which at least means I don't use resources is just disassembling and reassembling gravity cube trinkets
but it is so mind-numbing and RSI-inducing that I've given up
dense ember
you can also grind down rotten food to bioscrap
useful if you are also leveling up cooking
oak parcel
i dont think i've done any specific farming for it, though all the paper crafting i've done for making scrapshot ammo probably got me most of it
dense ember
or just doing a lot of farming
still igloo
I'm going to be honest, any time you're expected to grind for something I'm immediately going to pull out a save editor
unkempt lily
I don't think you're expected to grind
oak parcel
throwing is by far the worst grind i've found so far
unkempt lily
i'm just curious what the level 15 crafting bench stuff actually does
dense ember
throwing is pain
unkempt lily
this is no more frustrating than trying to go back to the shit realm
oak parcel
every skill but throwing (and maybe sneaking) like you can just wait to come naturally
still igloo
Yeah, in ABF I think it's less an intentional design choice and more just poorly-scaled xp returns
oak parcel
yeah theres a good afk spot in flathill for sneaking
throwing just needs to scale xp on damage/utility hits and it would be fine
still igloo
Sneaking needing you to AFK to get any real xp really needs to be fixed
oak parcel
imo sneaking only feels less egregious as theres a workaround
still igloo
The change they made where breaking objects gives weapon xp is a good start
unkempt lily
I either want the vaccum and laser gun and stuff not giving xp to feel more intentional or for it to give some kind of xp
sick charm
Does laser katana cause bleeding btw
still igloo
Though grinders giving sharp instead of accuracy is just kind of weird
unkempt lily
I think I've missed out on a bunch of xp by just vaccuming the whole game
still igloo
Technically the vacuum can give xp! It's just accuracy xp, lol
unkempt lily
does it?
still igloo
Pest shot used to, at least
unkempt lily
oh the pests
still igloo
Haven't checked this update
unkempt lily
yeah probably
that is my other QOL wish, I wish there was a way to safely put down pests with the vaccum
still igloo
A pest backboard that you can shoot them into and they land safely
So I can yeet them into my base from the tram station
clever flower
Leveling cooking is a nightmare tbh, get the xp trait do not be a fool like me
oak parcel
level it along side fishing
unkempt lily
the key to levelling is always human brains
clever flower
It's just got really minimal experience gain when you're only supplying food for two folk
Unless you just wanna grind it out and pour soup on the floor
Just spamming Eggs has seemed fastest but even still 8-10 is like doubling the experience needed
woeful raptor
are there any perks for reaching max level/13+ that stand out to any of you? im away from my pc and I can't remember anything besides sneak
oak parcel
sneak15 is good, reloading 15 (lets you reload while sprinting), cooking 15 giving 2 extra serving on servings food, medical 15 (apply medical stuff twice as fast) might be good with how everything and its nan makes you bleed now but i havent gotten it yet to test
clever flower
I'm also just excited for Strength 15 carry capacity
Truly one of my favorite mechanics is 'build strength by being almost overburdened'
lotta nice Zomboid DNA in here
clever flower
sneak15 is good, reloading 15 (lets you reload while sprinting), cooking 15 givi...
introducing a New Type of Bleed specifically to devour Military Electronics is.. maybe my least favorite thing about the update
wouldn't mind that bandage being made from nigh anything else
unkempt lily
you can just use more bandages
clever flower
maybe if i already applied them twice as fast
unkempt lily
I don't disagree it's really annoying
unkempt lily
it's very rng
clever flower
i've taken to just uh
unkempt lily
sometimes you need two, sometimes you need eight
unkempt lily
I just sit on top of my healing briefcase until I get it right
clever flower
the ||Grenade Robots|| don't like me doin that
love being Team Healer though
also with the laser weapons is anyone else just carrying around a portable charger nowadays
woeful raptor
sneak15 is good, reloading 15 (lets you reload while sprinting), cooking 15 givi...
shit maybe i should grind it out
i would get really annoyed by heavy bleed but i think a failed bandage still gives first aid xp so thats my incentive to never use the
Better Bandages
clever flower
I'm impressed y'all survive some of these folks long enough for multiple bandages
also does anyone else have a bug where the snipers never, ever stop firing, even if they can't currently hit ya
woeful raptor
never ever? ive had them continue for a solid like minute before but beyond that no
woeful raptor
*I'm impressed y'all survive some of these folks long enough for multiple bandag...
counterpoint: i usually dont
snipers are fine, there's lots of cover but the uh
bots. just nuke me
clever flower
At least as long as we were puttering around the plant
Oh yeah I can hide from them fine, but just. The noise. Forever.
though snipers could maaaybe also shoot like .5 seconds slower
still igloo
I've found they sometimes fire when you're just far enough behind cover they can't hit you
But not when I'm well behind a wall or anything
Had they maybe seen a bot and were unloading into it?
clever flower
We were fully in like.. the gym area on the other side
And maybe! Still had the bots meandering around
still igloo
Leveling cooking is a nightmare tbh, get the xp trait do not be a fool like me
Even with the xp trait I never even hit 10 with a group of 4 people before this update
Soup is too darn efficient
Ended up just mass-cooking fish to get the oven
oak parcel
*introducing a New Type of Bleed specifically to devour Military Electronics is....
fun fact, that mechanic in introduced in manufacturing now :)
is it just me or is the ||moisture teleporter|| borderline useless?
still igloo
fun fact, that mechanic in introduced in manufacturing now :)
Downside: probably even more lethal than in Hydro, where at least you have good armor and healing briefcase
Upside: more fortitude xp!
oak parcel
oh yeah theres just like a 60% chance if you get hit in manufacturing by it that you're just dead
and nah fort xp is easy enough to farm otherwise that its not an upside
anyone else haaaaaaaaaaaaaate that chargers have the done charging tone now?
still igloo
I have every single "you're fragile and easy to kill" negative trait, a nice safe bleed is a welcome source of fortitude XP
still igloo
anyone else haaaaaaaaaaaaaate that chargers have the done charging tone now?
I adore it, makes my group much better at remembering to pick their stuff back up
Fewer instances of "quit hogging the darn charge pad"
oak parcel
i cant do hot swap teleporters now
still igloo
Hm?
oak parcel
leaving a teleporter on a pad and just swaping it when you rtb rather than having to wait for it to charge
still igloo
Oh, odd, I don't think that happens for me
oak parcel
thers like a 1 minute delay
still igloo
Even so, I did have someone forget their teleporter on the pad the other day and didn't notice it
Maybe mine is glitched
Or I'm just oblivious
unkempt lily
anyone else haaaaaaaaaaaaaate that chargers have the done charging tone now?
this one is so much nicer tbf
there was a patch where it was super obnoxious
oak parcel
i still just want it gone or a one and done
oak parcel
ooooooo i have maybe discovered the god strat for ||defense bots||
woeful raptor
do tell do tell
oak parcel
have sneak 15 (might also need ||night pass||), stun with slushie bomb get behind them and to the side dump an electro thrower into their hip keeps them stunlocked till they die
takes me like 1/4 a charge
woeful raptor
excellent..
oak parcel
specifically it keeps them stunlocked if you keep getting sneak attacks
which makes me think this may get patched out
dense ember
okay
so assuming you have wrinkly brainmeat, giving about 6 exp per craft, turning a full stack of wood to bandage would give you 540 exp
sick charm
what if you also have wrinkly brainmeat in a keycard trinket
dense ember
then 7 exp per craft to 690 exp
approximately
I heard human brain gives you more exp, but I never seem that actually increase the percentage? or maybe the number is just too small to do so in this case
woeful raptor
i think it's like 20% and some vomit?
maybe it'd be better to craft a bunch of wooden weapons, damage them and repair them constantly
er, basic weapons i think the only wooden one is like the desk leg
oak parcel
mmmm tasty
oak parcel
i like my skill spread
unkempt lily
that throwing stat lol
oak parcel
i am determined to get 4 from crafting
unkempt lily
I think I have like 80 hours on my save and I don't have level 5
oak parcel
you can just throw nets over and over
dense ember
it really needs more exp before I would even considering grinding it
I only grind for the trajectory prediction line and that's it
oak parcel
i farm throwing while i farm fortitude
stand in a chopinator look down throw net grab
dense ember
isn't chopinator like super damaging?
oak parcel
if you have good chest armor it does next to nothing
dense ember
actually, now that laser is a thing, I think you can train fortitude by standing in the path of one too since laser emitter don't really deal a lot of damage
oak parcel
fort xp scales off of the damage aiui so the laser is low enough its not worth doing
oak parcel
what i do is chopinator near a healing work bench + well feed/hydraited with security chest armor and i do healing syringes to keep the healing buff up and throw nets while waiting for a bleed then bandage that and i end up training fort throwing and medical at a fairly decent rate
dense ember
that's a lot of things
oak parcel
you dont need all of those healing buffs but they up the duty cycle
dense ember
Gotta say, Moisture teleporter is pretty damn useful
Sure, the amount it teleports in is very low, but it does it steadily and consistently
There will be a point where you need to collect water again, but moisture teleporter reduces the amount of times you need to do it
I should make and power another one
oak parcel
it makes 30ml every ingame hour
dense ember
Huh, fewer than I thought, but that's basically a free 720 ml everyday and that's just about enough to hydrate you unless you are making soup or whatever
So 2 teleporters per person should be enough
oak parcel
i'm sticking to water filters and barrels, its less farming hassle
still igloo
what i do is chopinator near a healing work bench + well feed/hydraited with sec...
Would a healing briefcase offset the need for syringes?
oak parcel
possibly but then you have to keep charging it, and wont get as much first aid xp
still igloo
True
oak parcel
also not sure if it stacks with the bench healer
still igloo
Slightly more throwing xp though lmao
dense ember
Oh shit, moisture teleport can teleport water into garden plot too?
Okay that's very useful
oak parcel
if the throughput on it wasnt garbage i'd probably build more
dense ember
But anyway, I was more talking about using moisture teleporter with filterbarrel.
I have not went out to grab water since I installed a teleporter
Though half of tgat is also because I'm cutting down amount of container I got to make spaces
I have way too much water
I also farm the bot sometimes so I get more than enough soda
Though that doesn't sounds healthy
If I want to make my water give me more water, I can jist make tomato soup
Somehow that gives me more water per water
oak parcel
what i really want is a version that teleports water from other containers into plots
oak parcel
because it takes like 2 minutes to grab a bunch of empty barrels and a water filter head to a water source cycle them all and teleport back with like 100l of water
unkempt lily
also not sure if it stacks with the bench healer
it does
oak parcel
i want a deep freezer
oak parcel
does anyone use overworld guns for anything other than accuracy farming?
still igloo
Security pistol is decent damage you can use with a shield
unkempt lily
before I got the big laser stick and the newest armour set I used the shotguns a bit for dealing with the order
I also haven't tried out the new guns
the pistol did carry me through manufacturing yeah
oak parcel
yeah, let me refine the question, does anyone use the overworld guns that require the various flavor of armbands for anything other than accuracy farming?
i'm pretty sure noone in my group did and i'm wondering if that was special to my group or if everyone finds them too much of a hassle
woeful raptor
the armor tradeoff, inv space needed for ammo, and durability just steer me away from it
oak parcel
yeah thats my feelings on it too, they wanted to steer us away from them and i think they did a bit too well
unkempt lily
I would rather the way to hack the guns was spending things on the guns themselves rather than the armbands
oak parcel
i can turn poo into explosives and make a laser cannon but i cant remove a biolock from an smg i have like 30 of 
woeful raptor
I would rather the way to hack the guns was spending things on the guns themselv...
oh yeah like instead of light gun repair kits I'd be totally down for light gun bio access overrides
i remember someone saying they should move the biowraps to a watch slot and i really liked that too
still igloo
I tried the SMG, the durability was way too embarrassingly low to be worth using
It would break before going through a single stack of ammo
sick charm
Agreed
woeful raptor
just a reckless overtune given how durability works iirc
oak parcel
sick charm
Given how much it sucks there’s no reason to like put a biometric restriction on it if you ask me
I don’t know about the famas rifle and the sniper rifle though
Maybe those are better
oak parcel
the hotbar of a sane individual with a reasonable amount of weaponry
oak parcel
my group restarted literally just so people could take it with crush depth
i hope they eventually add a way to change/add traits
oak parcel
i'm also hoping (out of nowhere) that we get like a dlc that lets you like new game + through the game as a gatekeeper
woeful raptor
gatekeeper status...
oak parcel
the sister did say ||our aura is shifting||
still igloo
the hotbar of a sane individual with a reasonable amount of weaponry
As a weaponry addict, this is a baffling sight to me
What if I need to unload on five different enemies without reloading?
still igloo
i hope they eventually add a way to change/add traits
You can save edit, but it looks to be a bit of a pain
dense ember
if I could change traits, I would actually give myself more negative trait for some more extra
like the hunger and thirsty negative trait, because I found myself having a really easy time of hunting and finding water very very quickly
still igloo
I have ten traits in total, it's very silly
I should have taken the hunger/thirsty ones too
oak parcel
i just do +2hotbar +15% carry weight and the thirst negative for points
sick charm
Ooh
dense ember
that's strange
dense ember
I just tried using chopinator to train fortitude, but I'm not getting any exp at all?
sick charm
So I can pretend I’m playing fallout nv
dense ember
I think fortitude need to be like
sick charm
sip
dense ember
based on the damage you take before getting decreased by armor
oak parcel
yeah if you use the mountaineer armor you get no xp
dense ember
I have took off everything and still getting no exp from it, that's weird
oak parcel
i was doingit earlier today so its not patched out
sick charm
sips from my trusty canteen
I wonder if in multiplayer you can rank up fortitude by shooting each other
oak parcel
naw friendlyfire gives no fort xp
yeah just checked to be sure getting fort xp from a chop
dense ember
is the chopinator placed down by you or others
oak parcel
me iirc
dense ember
that's weird
maybe this is solo player quirk or something
but still yeah, fortitude should be gained based on damage you have taken before armor decreased it
getting hit by a giant fist still hurt like hell even if you are still alive from your armor
sick charm
i got zapped by my own tesla coil and it did give me fortitude exp
and i think my friend also gained fortitude exp from that
dense ember
my game is just fucked then I guess :c
oak parcel
OH
sick charm
of course tesla coils will just flat out murder you
oak parcel
i picked it up and put it back down its not giving xp anymore
sick charm
that's weird
dense ember
oh no
oak parcel
ok it seems to only be chops i placed down before that one hotfix
its got a lower duty cycle but you can also use this wire to farm fort xp pretty well
but that one ignores armor and you'll spend a lot more time waiting for health to come back
still igloo
I found a canteen from a sniper
Isn't the canteen just worse than the water bottle?
oak parcel
nah its just a reskin
still igloo
Huh, thought it weighed more for some reason
oak parcel
i think it might actually weigh less
still igloo
Ooh
oak parcel
wiki says its 1/4 the weight, but i think one might be empty weight and the other full and i'm to lazy to launch again to check
dense ember
canteen weighs 2 while water bottle weighs 3
actually nevermind
they weigh the same
I think canteen weighs less when empty?
dense ember
yes it is
so, just built another moisture teleporter, and then build another 2 carbon batteries as my primary daisy chained battery reserve
I basically don't need to gather water myself anymore unless I'm soup spamming again, and my farm plot which I have 4 of, all medium, will just get water teleported to them on their own
if I want more water security to make sure my farm will never dry up whenever I pluck something out of it, I can just make another one
also rice is fucking stupid
like absolutely stupid
you get 4 rice per harvest
those rice can be cooked in a pot with water to turn into 4 bowls of rice, all with 20 hunger
so a full harvest is like 320 hunger filled
that's so much
oak parcel
I like the stuffed drumsticks
Drumstick + mushroom + can of peas +1/4 harvest eye plant bake and it's like 91 hunger and 41 water at my cooking level
Stacks to 4
I must now go eep
Tomorrow if I have the spoons I might share some more farming secrets
clever flower
Only 3.5k more experience until I can bake things.. soone..
oak parcel
I can't wait for reactors the plants look so cool
dense ember
Yup!
oak parcel
oak parcel
we do havve mushroom space
sick charm
I want a pocket dimension just for me
oak parcel
dat the mirror