Yup!
#Eclipse Phase
grizzled rapids
safe stream
Because it frees the player to respond to that stress in the way that best reflects the character.
grizzled rapids
Ye ye exactly
God imagine getting a fight freeze flight response to being forced to explain yourself
That’s perfect for Malignance
safe stream
God imagine getting a fight freeze flight response to being forced to explain yo...
Yes. Imagine.
I grin
bleak ingot
I love "explaining the directive to non-exsurgents" as a source of stress.
grizzled rapids
Thank you
I’m glad you like it too
Also watching a loved one die is bad, but watching an exsurgent die is way worse
safe stream
I was just about to comment.
I like how you tell a narrative about Malignants that really emphasizes you are still you in a sense.
I also enjoy the difference in killings.
grizzled rapids
Yeah that was the goal
It’s not completely alien
A disturbing amount of the original personality is left intact
But it’s been twisted into something else.
And yeah the difference in killings
Murder can still be traumatizing!
safe stream
Especially if what Ooz is saying is true. That would make some Exsurgents... possibly some of the oldest beings in the same sleeve?
grizzled rapids
Premeditated murder, even while in service to your directive, can still fuck you up badly
It’s just also terrible because not fulfilling that directive also fucks you up
grizzled rapids
Especially if what Ooz is saying is true. That would make some Exsurgents... pos...
Certainly some of them.
Probably not all
safe stream
Absolutely. It'd be rare.
bleak ingot
I would get infected with the exsurgent virus for psychic powers
safe stream
But its an interesting dynamic.
grizzled rapids
Yes
grizzled rapids
I would get infected with the exsurgent virus for psychic powers
There’s a benign strain that exists but unfortunately this isn’t the benign one
bleak ingot
I'm aware, but I want the big powers
safe stream
Hmm. Do the benign count as Exsurgents for all my considerations.
grizzled rapids
My thought is
It does let you count them as exsurgents
But that makes them dangerous
Cus unlike you, they’re not actually in service to alien intelligences beyond your comprehension
They are deceivers, traitors, liars, half siblings
bleak ingot
Yeah they're free agents.
grizzled rapids
They can trick you or detect you
If you use your chi sleights to say “hey I’m exsurgent, let’s meet up” they’re just gonna call firewall
grizzled rapids
So watts-Macleod asyncs are dangerous and annoying-yes
Correct
It would be fairly traumatizing
…wouldn’t it be better then, to fully infect them?
Bring them over to your side?
bleak ingot
Kinda fun to recontextualize Watts-Macleod from "good guys with bad guy powers" to "born of a corrupted strain"
grizzled rapids
Take their minds apart and put them back together
better
grizzled rapids
Kinda fun to recontextualize Watts-Macleod from "good guys with bad guy powers" ...
YEAH
It recontextualizes the relationship so good
It might contextualize them as wayward children
Or perhaps as hated deceivers
Worm exsurgents do seem to delight in torturing watts Macleod asyncs
safe stream
Hmm. Evaluating how to mix the strains.
grizzled rapids
I think each sub strain works relatively the same except you get the free sleights from being Malignant as well.
That way other unique strains can be added just fine
safe stream
I'm envisioning how unique strains would be born, mostly, ||since ETI isn't broadcasting any more.||
grizzled rapids
I assume through mutation and evolution
bleak ingot
It is a virus.
grizzled rapids
The exsurgent virus seems happy to evolve and shift on its own, developing countermeasures or new agendas as needed
My personal headcanon is that malignants are an evolution in response to the TITANs disappearing
earnest wave
I'm envisioning how unique strains would be born, mostly, ||since ETI isn't broa...
Strictly speaking ||the ETI never broadcast anything||
grizzled rapids
A way to continue the agenda of the eti without the TITANs
But I don’t wanna like, make that purely canon cus other fun possibilities exist
bleak ingot
Watts-MacLeod is generally implied to be an error in the process of replication, probably (unless it's a five-dimensional chess plan, who knows)
grizzled rapids
I did also write that many watts macleod’s were in fact dormant malignants
Not all of them
But what some people called watts Macleod was just a dormant malignant strain
While others were “real” watts macleod
bleak ingot
Doesn't Watts-MacLeod specifically make one more vulnerable to other Exsurgent stuff, too?
Or was that a 1e thing?
earnest wave
Watts-MacLeod is generally implied to be an error in the process of replication,...
It’s pretty open ended yeah it might just take 25 years to reach a mature state
grizzled rapids
Yeah
earnest wave
Doesn't Watts-MacLeod specifically make one more vulnerable to other Exsurgent s...
Yes without an extra trait (dominant strain)
safe stream
Strictly speaking ||the ETI never broadcast anything||
Very true!
grizzled rapids
But yeah my current thought is the malignance was either a new step in the plan or an evolution in response to the disappearance of the titans.
And the appearance of malignants marks a new turning point in the fall of humanity
That’s how I would play it out, at least
…I suppose it’s fitting given the name of the ttrpg itself
heady crypt
Yeah lmao
The Eclipse has ended and the Long Night is coming and you are its heralds or something
bleak ingot
... god the Eclipse Phase Four Horsemen would be a very fun story conceit, wouldn't it?
What are the Exsurgent Four Horsemen? Obv. we still need death, but I think we can do better than war, famine, and pestilence.
Maybe they're all death but different kinds.
bleak ingot
I do like that.
Alternately: Death of Ego, Death of Body, Death of Memory and ... Death of Will?
heady crypt
I'd do uuuj
bleak ingot
?
queen harness
morgana broke
grizzled rapids
The Eclipse has ended and the Long Night is coming and you are its heralds or so...
The period between infection and viral cells appearing has ended
It’s time…
bleak ingot
Division, Infection, Thirst and Renewal
Also good
prime cairnBOT
Karen we are loving what you are cooking here
bleak ingot
Make Renewal the most terrible of all.
heady crypt
Division and Thirst kinda suffer for covering a lot of similar spaces (capitalism, infighting etc) and Renewal is kinda too bloated (the return of the TITANs, the exsurgent virus getting reorganized, one of the discovered "dead" alien races actually having been just hibernating, transhuman tech getting to advanced etc)
grizzled rapids
Karen we are loving what you are cooking here
Eeeee thank you so much!!!!!!
In fact
We have another malignant chat log for the Echidna morph. An 8 foot tall bio weapon monstrosity with tendrils and the ability to lay eggs in corpses.
Would that be something I should post
bleak ingot
Division and Thirst kinda suffer for covering a lot of similar spaces (capitalis...
I would specifically imagine Renewal as the endgame horseman, sorta like Death: restructuring the shattered world into the final, hostile phase that the ETI created the virus to achieve.
prime cairnBOT
please do
Karen(angelic and radiant) ↩️
grizzled rapids
@@@@@@@//Thread: Echidna
Tellocomehere: Spawning season in the New Mumbai Containment Zone in a week. Gonna Showing up there with my Echidna morph and the whole cluster, gonna be partying with the local Whippers and Jellies. Some Snappers might be joining in the revelry.
Slither: Way too much fucking information.
ThirdWorm: OH SHIT SPAWNING SEASON'S SOON? FUCK I GOTTA MAKE SURE MY LUNAR FURY IS PREPPED
Tellocomehere: You're showing up in your fury?
ThirdWorm: YEAH BITCH I'M A SLAYER STRAIN. I GOTTA SHOW MY DOMINANCE.
Tellocomehere: I'm going to lay eggs in your corpse woman.
Slither: Please stop posting about this in the public channel.
Slither: There are minors here
ThirdWorm: THERE ARE MINORS HERE?????
Bite: Yeah, me.
Tellocomehere: HAH.
ThirdWorm: Oh right Mothcarve's adopted kidnapped Jovian.
Exsurgent xenomorphs should not be trusted in quarantine zones.
grizzled rapids
Malignants are human-like enough to chat in rooms
…Bite is a Jovian malignant who was born in the republic and got infected in a time accelerated sim
Their situation is messy
bleak ingot
Okay but we both know there's one person on that chat who is a regular human Exsurgaboo who connects via IRC.
cinder hill
```
@@@@@@@//Thread: Echidna
Tellocomehere: Spawning season in the New Mumbai C...
The horror in “there are minors here!?!” Is so good
Because there is multiple layers
grizzled rapids
Okay but we both know there's one person on that chat who is a regular human Exs...
If you’re an exsurgaboo you won’t remain one for long
Because that is absolutely a vector for the infection
bleak ingot
You'd think so!
But mostly this one just keeps showing up in chat and is very annoying!
grizzled rapids
The Stockholm strain actually makes you consider exsurgent xenomorphs to be aspirational and wonderful
grizzled rapids
But mostly this one just keeps showing up in chat and is very annoying!
He is getting hacked with a basilisk
bleak ingot
They keep trying that!
grizzled rapids
The horror in “there are minors here!?!” Is so good
Genuinely the unadulterated horror of “THERE ARE MINORS HERE????”
Because wow that’s fucked up that there’s a minor who’s malignant
bleak ingot
"Okay I'm 100% certain I killed you."
"You did! It was cool, I really liked when the building sprinklers switched from deadly acid to nanobots."
grizzled rapids
At a certain point
You gotta respect the commitment
But also
“Why are you so obsessed with us but too scared of taking the final step with being infected”
bleak ingot
There are some horrors even the exsurgents cannot understand
prime cairnBOT
Obviously this person remaining uninfected is part of the directive.
grizzled rapids
Clearly
bleak ingot
“Why are you so obsessed with us but too scared of taking the final step with be...
Every time someone asks this, they give a different answer.
cinder hill
Genuinely the unadulterated horror of “THERE ARE MINORS HERE????”
Because wow t...
Can’t even escape “think of the children” in the body horror hive mind 😭 😭
grizzled rapids
“Is this a psyop from firewall? A Titan toying with us? The most powerful flat ever?”
grizzled rapids
Can’t even escape “think of the children” in the body horror hive mind 😭 😭
Lmao
I do like Bite
Their bit is that they’re in some horrible assassin morph
And everybody keeps assuming they’re an adult when no they’re like 16 tops (7 in real time but the time accelerated sim added 9 years to that)
Bite’s great
heady crypt
“Why are you so obsessed with us but too scared of taking the final step with be...
They're posting from Neptune IX
bleak ingot
Remind me, what is the deal with Neptune?
bleak ingot
space siberia
grizzled rapids
That’s Titan.
bleak ingot
space alaska
grizzled rapids
Yeah
Honestly a fun place for another exsurgent safe house
I wanna write 3 for each big section
Got a processor locus ran by a Titan fetch in the Kuiper Belt
bleak ingot
Honestly a fun place for another exsurgent safe house
Laziest exsurgents
grizzled rapids
I also wanted to write an Iapetus maze network deep beneath the jupiter brain layers, and honestly maybe derelict habitat in the Trojans
Infested with xenomorphs and exsurgent horrors
bleak ingot
All of the other exsurgents give Neptunians the side-eye
grizzled rapids
Tbf most exsurgents are “lazy” by malignants standards
bleak ingot
"What are you even doing out there"
"I dunno the directive told me to go snowboarding"
heady crypt
Remind me, what is the deal with Neptune?
The blurb Karen posted, but Neptune IX is specifically also somrtimes known as ||Halimede||
grizzled rapids
HAH
Honestly a water hab on Neptune, located in the mantle, and an outpost inside of Iapetus could make for fun locations
Since those are also like, weird ass places for firewall to investigate
Actually instead of Neptune it could be uranus since it does have a much colder ocean
And slightly more comfortable gravity
abstract bloom
Does anyone have any character build advice I could share for the person I'll be running EP2e for? It's going to be just them with no other players
we dont really have a character concept in mind
earnest wave
What’s the campaign premise? Like in terms of how much fighting or what?
abstract bloom
Probably not too much fighting, fairly street level in Valles-New Shanghai
probably doing a bunch of investigation, probably a buncha crime
earnest wave
Hmm not sure how much this applies in this case but:
- get resources, it’s a goated trait
- don’t skimp on rep
- you need at least fray 60 if you want to be even credible in combat. You want fray 80-100 to be good.
- don’t skimp on Perceive
- don’t bother getting deeper pools than 2 recharges can refill without special stuff
- skills to taste, but min max your Know skills around complementary skill breakpoints
Morph stuff is mostly contextual esp in 2e where they’re more balanced
grizzled rapids
I figure hacking and social stuff is gonna save your ass more than combat if you’re getting into investigation stuff
Since looking shit up on the internet is a good skill to have when gathering info
earnest wave
Oh and if you can afford them enhanced vision and medicines for everyone
Also get a nanodetector
You have to have a nanodetector
abstract bloom
I think character build is going to determine a lot of what the campaign revolves around
earnest wave
(Without a nanodetector the GM doesn’t need to explain why you’re taking damage from sab or diss swarms)
Or when you’re being watched by some of the others
abstract bloom
ic ic
are there any wrong ways to build a character
I think I'll focus mostly on the donts rather than the meta do's
cinder hill
"Psionics ddon't work if you aren't a biomorph"
earnest wave
Yes but it’s less applicable in solo play with a loosely defined premise haha
abstract bloom
That's valid
I was thinking trap options and stuff but if it's mostly contextual trap options I'm not too worried
I think char creation might end up being a lot different than traditional EP anyway
earnest wave
The very basics are don’t dump fray and perceive
abstract bloom
Since we'll be using ep1e credits and starting off with maybe just a case morph (will be seeing how he feels about the idea)
grizzled rapids
Ough a case
abstract bloom
yeah
heady crypt
I should run EP2...
grizzled rapids
Ep is cool
abstract bloom
my thoughts are to go through the basics of induction with whatever corp they are indetured into
grizzled rapids
I should continue to work on it today
abstract bloom
and have that be CC
grizzled rapids
my thoughts are to go through the basics of induction with whatever corp they ar...
Ooooooo
Man I wanna play an infomorph at some point
They seem fun
abstract bloom
thinking as well of having them start with maybe less money than default ep1e money
abstract bloom
and it's a "stimulus" from their corp
(a loan they have to pay back, as well as the debt they have for the corp getting them their body and also the corp buying their contract)
queen harness
ive always wanted to do a "start from nothing" solo game in something
EP is probably one of the more workable ones thanks to printers
grizzled rapids
Ooo yeah for sure
Could be interesting
Especially if you’re like, a runaway lost generation or something
queen harness
and EP has an established setup for "new guy who knows jack shit"
its called "you died in the fall and just got revived"
grizzled rapids
Yeah
abstract bloom
yeah
I plan on giving my player more uses than just like, buying gear with his money
he can buy apartment furniture too!
grizzled rapids
One character concept I’ve always wanted to tinker with was a sex worker infomorph struggling with mars but that one’s…tough to find a home for.
But EP has so many fun concepts you can do
abstract bloom
he's in a case, his corpo given apartment has nothing but a tv and a computer
grizzled rapids
he can buy apartment furniture too!
OOOOOOOO
APARTMENT FURNITURE
We love furniture here
earnest wave
Wow a whole apartment Mr fat cat here
abstract bloom
apartment is a stretch
grizzled rapids
1x1x2 meter coffin in the wall?
Man that’s comfy
I can only afford a small hard drive to store my mind
queen harness
its one of those little privacy booth things
chair with a desk thats part of the wall
grizzled rapids
As a case it’s not like you need…sleep
Or a tv
Or a chair
Or a bed
Or a microwave
You’ve got mesh inserts you’ll be fine
You just need a box
abstract bloom
I've developed an idea most ingenious
grizzled rapids
Shanghai is on mars innit?
abstract bloom
he can either pick the bender apartment special
grizzled rapids
So you’re probably in a domed city
abstract bloom
OR he can pick a normal apartmentr
queen harness
it counts, sort of
abstract bloom
the normal apartment has rent that is more than he can pay for on his salary
so the corp just adds more debt onto his contract!
grizzled rapids
Ooooo
queen harness
you still want to do air handling and filtration and temperature management inside the dome
queen harness
even if its not to human comfort levels
grizzled rapids
Or any districts where the synths live
abstract bloom
so the corp just adds more debt onto his contract!
aren't corps so generous!
John Ademurewa thinks so!
grizzled rapids
What’s the case’s job
abstract bloom
not sure yet
grizzled rapids
Love you John ademurewa
earnest wave
You don’t need much in the way of air for synths yeah
grizzled rapids
Honestly yeah that’s the part I struggle with
What jobs do you give to indents
Mining….uh…office work o guess…uhhhh
Hn
grizzled rapids
Mhm mhm
abstract bloom
even highly skilled labour
grizzled rapids
True
You can use em for anything and everything
And hey, synths don’t need sleep or rest
So our indent can have LOOOONG workdays
bleak ingot
Mining….uh…office work o guess…uhhhh
Mining for office work.
grizzled rapids
Lmao
queen harness
"sealed no bio life environment" is something ive done some thinking about seperately and you really do want some atmosphere, because of heat dissipation
grizzled rapids
Yea
abstract bloom
And hey, synths don’t need sleep or rest
they defo need mental rest
grizzled rapids
True
queen harness
radiating heat in a vacuum sucks, even if you dont have much heat generation
abstract bloom
cyberbrains emulate human brains and a big part of sleep is mental restarts
queen harness
its one of the major limiting factors on spacesuits
grizzled rapids
its one of the major limiting factors on spacesuits
I will say mars in ep does have a thin atmosphere
Iirc some morphs can even breathe unaided in it.
queen harness
yeah, youre not gonna have any vacuum habs on mars
grizzled rapids
I’ll need to check
queen harness
the duster can, i believe
queen harness
but for an optimal machine environment, you actually want a dense inert atmosphere with high thermal conductivity
because it increases how efficient cooling is and thus reduces the need for onboard cooling
grizzled rapids
Maybe nitrogen?
Relatively inert, fairly common, can carry temperature and stuff
abstract bloom
putting you in a nitrogen cooled cubicle and turning off your senses so you can work better (data entry job)
grizzled rapids
Ideally a noble gas might be better but those aren’t common
Helium maybe
Since it’s gaseous at lower temperatures still
queen harness
the perfect mix is probably weird and complicated
grizzled rapids
And still quite common
queen harness
nitrogen is the easy and cheap answer thanks to abundance
also means you can do both pure nitrogen atmospheric cooling and liquid nitrogen cooling in the same space without "contamination" problems
grizzled rapids
Easy to get from volatiles too
queen harness
if you can manufacture it in sufficient quantities and can seal anything it'll interact with, you could even use complex refrigerants directly
grizzled rapids
True
earnest wave
Actually I think eclipse phase says if synths need sleep
They don’t
queen harness
(this is almost definitely overkill though for any "walkable" environment)
(also dramatically increases design requirements on literally everything because refrigerants are horrible chemicals)
earnest wave
if you can manufacture it in sufficient quantities and can seal anything it'll i...
Thanks to nanofacturing you probably can
I wouldn’t be shocked if parts of the all-synth hab were like this
abstract bloom
it's kind of overkill
and probably unecessary unless it's work related
and you need all that energy
queen harness
like, just look at Freon
well, its not that you dont want refrigerants, its that you dont need a pure refrigerant atmo
you can get cryonic temperatures with a nitrogen atmo
(down to 63 K)
earnest wave
it's kind of overkill
I am here to flex on the coldlets
queen harness
and anything that generates too much heat in an installation can be heat piped or liquid cooled or whatever
Just Submerge Your Computer In Liquid Nitrogen, It's Fine
and practically, a lot of stuff won't actually be able to be cooled down to ultra low temps anyway for various reasons
grizzled rapids
I am here to flex on the coldlets
Flexing on the meatbags by living in cryogenic temperatures
queen harness
anyway, my point is that i imagine most places that are synth only are probably only very cold and not extremely cold
and god i just thought about plastic
plastics hate extreme cold
all synth cryo hab with a huge sign at the entrance with a laundry list of prohibited items and materials because they all just break at those temps
everybody there has to use custom made cryo-safe morphs and cryo-safe equipment
somebody figured out how to make a puffer jacket that doesn't crumble and fall apart at 100K and its the hot new fashion item
heady crypt
"Hot"
abstract bloom
realised I am taking inspiration from VNs and dating sims for this 1 on 1 campaign
which is VERY funny
queen harness
i mean, it works
grizzled rapids
It works!!!
abstract bloom
it does!
it even has dating sim set up too!
person is new to town, must get job and money and also meets wacky (and attractive) cast and develops a unique bond and relationship with each of them
grizzled rapids
True!
Speaking of dating sims I should start writing the biomorphs
currently struggling with a name for the bioware that lets you lay eggs in corpses that *isnt * loaded with connotation
queen harness
dont think thats gonna happen
prime cairnBOT
Darwin's Lament?
grizzled rapids
maybe
though as a name for an organ?
theres something there with the darwin thing though
with the darwin wasp
prime cairnBOT
Yeah, though for the organ name like wouldent that jsut be an ovipositer?
grizzled rapids
sigh
queen harness
this is the "play as the fucked up monsters" expansion
grizzled rapids
writes down ovipositor for ware
abstract bloom
parasitic ovipositor maybe?
parasitic makes it... more gross?????
idk
that could be a generational fumble
grizzled rapids
i think im just gonna bite the bullet
and write ovipositor
we're calling an ovipositor
and agreeing not to be weird about it
prime cairnBOT
parasitic would imply it's more for living bodies and they are going to survive the possess, as apposed to parasitiod
Atwcat (He/Him) ↩️
grizzled rapids
yeah
this is for laying eggs in corpses, hydroponics, waste disposal, etc
the eggs absorb nutrients through their membrane
so theoretically you could lay them in peoples water but like
thats gonna pass through typically
....although it could grow inside them too
anyway im just gonna name it an ovipositor and everyones gonna agree not to be weird
and if someone says "why did you create this" im just gonna have to tell them that there was no other usable word
abstract bloom
fire back and say "I never even thought of it like this. You are a freak."
(you DEFINITELY did, agonized over it even)
grizzled rapids
youre right
we can just lie
a friend of mine gave me a much better word actually so nevermind im safe
abstract bloom
which is it
grizzled rapids
a friend sent me the name Cazador which is a fallout reference but also does work as like, a term
vaguely
maybe
i'll think about it
but i prefer it to ovipositor
abstract bloom
I dunno if cazador works in this regard
abstract bloom
tha EP foundry system is so good
earnest wave
It is
abstract bloom
so cool looking too
grizzled rapids
augh
abstract bloom
holy shit the time system in the foundry is
SO cool
using the downtime tracker with an indefinite task of "go to work" for the indent
abstract bloom
actually indefinite tracker doesn't let me add downtime to it so I might make it week based
how long do you think the work days are for indent cases?
grizzled rapids
hmmm
saturday and sundays might be free
but it might also be like
12 hour work days
abstract bloom
they need like 4 hours of rest a day so they can work long hours
abstract bloom
a full 3 days and 8 hours of your life at work per week
sorry more I went for 5 days
4 days, if you work 6 days a week at 16 hours a day
insane how the 1800s had people say shit like "if they're working for 16 hours a day, they wont be doing crime" and "what do the poor need with holidays?"
abstract bloom
yeah
grizzled rapids
"well its not like they need sleep or food. Whats the issue?"
abstract bloom
gotta think of fun character concepts to throw his way now
abstract bloom
gotta think of fun character concepts to throw his way now
NPCs, specifically
grizzled rapids
async fixer who knows some shady shit and is secretly a firewall agent could be like
a cool npc
abstract bloom
ooooooh
grizzled rapids
cus they could give him like...secret jobs
pay him a bunch
and also they can have the dynamic of like
the psychic powers dont WORK on our indent
cus the indent is in a case
psi abilities would just slide off
and they can ooze some weird charisma or some shit
theyre a rich fuck in a biomorph who seems to actually come to them for jobs n shit on occasion
maybe in a futura?
abstract bloom
I like the idea of firewall fixer for sure
grizzled rapids
(maybe theyre from the lost generation? idk)
yeah
firewall fixer is like
fun
abstract bloom
but idk if I'd make em an async
grizzled rapids
thats fair
abstract bloom
think the best NPCs have 1 thing that makes them stand out
abstract bloom
oh I totally wanna make an async
abstract bloom
my thoughts so far are:
petty crime catburglar
async runaway
firewall fixer (thank)
oooooo uplift yessss
grizzled rapids
cus as an uplift they can empathize with "your life is owned by a corp"
cus uh
yeah
abstract bloom
I said cat burglar as like, what it actually means but now I am imagining them as either a humanoid cat morph or as an actual cat
grizzled rapids
maybe theyre in a critter morph
so they look like a standard neogenetic/chimerical pet
but they are a full ass creature
abstract bloom
a critter morph?
grizzled rapids
I’ll pull up the art
abstract bloom
found it in the char options book
grizzled rapids
grizzled rapids
found it in the char options book
Another thought is also like, a biomorph university student.
Someone who is “normal” but like, definitely upper class
grizzled rapids
lookin at it rn
The “small mammal” bit might be useful for a literal cat burglar
abstract bloom
biomorph uni student in an exalt
abstract bloom
The “small mammal” bit might be useful for a literal cat burglar
think they'd only use that for special occassions and I'm not too sure if they'd be in the economic position to have an extra morph
had the funny idea of them day dreaming looking at designer morphs on display like "I want a ghost.... that'd be so awesome..."
abstract bloom
might just give them a modded splicer or even also a case
catgirl at heart
case with cat ears...
oh it's peak
grizzled rapids
OMG
Cute
Or maybe they’re an infomorph
Taking out the critter for a special occasion
Catgirl infomorph
Cus digimorphs are basically free.
grizzled rapids
:333
queen harness
they can even remote control the critter when theyre not in it
abstract bloom
how would they put their stack inside the critter?
except maybe farcasting to it and then deleting the old one
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It’s possible they just exit in and out of it.
So they let it sleep in a safe spot
And then go infomorph
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I'm just thinking of where the cortical stack is stored
queen harness
the critter has its own stack
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oh wait yeah
you just go onto tha mesh
and interact with it via the informorph
I forgor
grizzled rapids
Ye
queen harness
and since its a pod, it has a cyberbrain, so you can just transfer to it
yeah
okay yeah, and its just one turn each way
though you do have to make the tests every time
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what does cyberspace (meshspace?) look like
the mesh is the one thing I'm a little loopy on
queen harness
anything and everything
each individual space looks like whatever its creator/manager wants it to
its described somewhere that most corporate virtual spaces are replicas or fabrications of regular (if expensive) buildings and offices and storefronts
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I guess it's hard for me to wrap my head around what an infomorph like... is
queen harness
simulspace! thats the term
queen harness
but yeah, if youre in a simulspace its just A Virtual Reality
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It probably looks more like layered ar
queen harness
(and you almost always are as an infomorph)
subtle dawn
Infomorphs are fun
queen harness
since you can just run a simulspace on your home device most of the time, and look out into reality through a virtual window or computer screen or whatever
subtle dawn
Infomorphs are fun
I played one in an EP game
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Cus the mesh is super distributed, so Infomorphs can chill as software entities walking around through the mesh
Or-yeah, live inside a simulspace
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or yeah, navigate a simulation of realspace as a representation of navigating the mesh
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But if an infomorph is talking to you they can probably manifest an ar ghost to talk to you, and “see” through local spatial data from local mesh connected devices
Mechanically though they literally don’t have bodies and do everything “remotely”
queen harness
Though disembodied, infomorphs can interact with the physical world via the mesh, viewing through sensors, streaming XP feeds, communicating with characters, commanding slaved devices, and teleoperating bots.
subtle dawn
I guess it's hard for me to wrap my head around what an infomorph like... is
Okay, so, physically an informorph is a dedicated brain-server somewhere with a connection to the internet and the neural scaffolding to be a fully digital being
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So if it’s useful, imagine an infomorph as being a terminally online distant figure in eclipse phase, except instead of looking at their PC, that’s their ONLY method of connecting to the world
queen harness
well they do generally have a "body", theyre being run somewhere (unless theyre specifically distributed but that comes with complications)
but that "body" can also be almost any computer capable of running an ego
even mesh inserts!
subtle dawn
Being a purely digital being has its obvious perks in a society that's as Internet Of Things pilled as EP
queen harness
though if youre gonna ride around in a friend's head, probably splurge on a ghostrider
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even mesh inserts!
Yup!
Mesh inserts are a nice place to crash
Share the rent or smthin
subtle dawn
Notably, the mesh has an 'AR' level to it that's visible if you have inserts (which most do)
And you can be visible on that as you please
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The only morphs that don’t are either Infomorphs who are software or flats
queen harness
it also requires you kick out their muse
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Which aren’t modified
subtle dawn
But that's mostly for show, it's like a fancy version of posting a picture of yourself
You interact with everything through connections and systems
queen harness
just do the CP2077 in-your-head-hologram stuff
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That’s also a thing yeah
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so you could have a visible AR hologram as an infomorph?
subtle dawn
Yeah
queen harness
yes
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awesome
queen harness
either publicly or just to a specific person or group
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so you could have a visible AR hologram as an infomorph?
Yes
queen harness
though your ability to see realspace is limited by device access
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Ar illusions are everywhere in eclipse phase
Some even inducing haptic sensation
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yeah
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Like smell, touch, sound, etc
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oh fuck yeah this is awesome
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So
Infomorphs have some interaction options
Though the quality of the morph affects things
Lower quality morphs may have shit haptics
subtle dawn
Yeah, that's the drawback
You can be everywhere you can get your way into, but if there's not mesh, cameras, a system is airgapped, you start having trouble
subtle dawn
Less than you'd think, but yes
My character got around this by speccing into drone stuff - he would have camera bugs, little tools for physical access when he needed them
queen harness
one good thing for infomorphs is that you can move between devices without any tests usually
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A surprising amount is actually not airgapped
queen harness
so if you, say, own a drone that can run you, you can move into that over the mesh and then pilot it from the inside
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Buut they usually have Infomorphs guarding important systems
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Yeah
There are infomorph infosec specialities guarding important corporate systems
subtle dawn
Less than you'd think, but yes
My character got around this by speccing into dro...
I believe I actually picked up a drone and was able to mod it to be able to connect to systems by physical contact
queen harness
and there are a lot of ALIs and AGIs in that field, some of them many many times
subtle dawn
Which let me get around airgapping
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Drones are useful yeah
queen harness
so a single network might have "one" security guard who has a fork in every single device
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and there are a lot of ALIs and AGIs in that field, some of them many many times
Yeah.
Or core morphs guarding the big shit
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I guess it's hard for me to wrap my head around what an infomorph like... is
Something I’ll also note is that if you’re just in the computer you might just not… have any sense of sight a lot of the time
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Do not fuck with a core morph in the infospace
earnest wave
I imagine a lot of systems are airgapped
Airgaps aren’t common (but are used) but unbreakable encryption is common
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Encryption is a big issue
earnest wave
So a lot of physical intrusions are either trying to get a quantum encryption dongle or to bypass that secure layer with a grey box
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infomorph who has a camera outside of their coffin box that they use to people watch
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when they hit you with that 65536-qubit encryption stare
subtle dawn
And yeah as we've mentioned the real infomorph struggle is if the adventure takes you somewhere without a mesh
queen harness
or worse, a heavily restricted mesh
subtle dawn
That severely limits your options and access, so fingers crossed you have friends to ride around in until they find something for you to hack or whatever
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Though if this is an npc this isn’t a huge issue on your part
Since that’s just like, a normal and fun limitation
“My info morph friend can’t visit when I’m out in the fucking tqz”
subtle dawn
I do quite like EP's hacking
But it's the Main Thing anybody in an infomorph is going to be doing and you kind of have to stretch some resources to be readily able to do much else (on your own)
But being the party's Guy In The Chair is real fun
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Though if this is an npc this isn’t a huge issue on your part
oh definitely
on the other hand "my infomorph friend is chilling with me in my ghostrider all day every day"
infomorph bff
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Yea
earnest wave
And yeah as we've mentioned the real infomorph struggle is if the adventure take...
I was in a campaign like this and it was still cool
I was playing an AI overseer (middle management) of an exoplanet mining colony which went to hell
No mesh
I was ghostriding in another PCs inserts and using my skills to be clippy
Until we got in an old fashioned standoff with some hostile survivors
And one of them had a cyber brain
So I could bodyjack them without anyone noticing…
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Oh my god???
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NPC ideas:
infomorph thief who uses a critter to physically interface
fixer who secretly works for firewall
lost generation psionic (fleeing people trying to find them maybe?)
Barsoomian revolutionary who will try to recruit the PC
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Maybe they’re like
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oh and uplift
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Child of a really powerful hypercorp ceo
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oh and uplift
Yeah the crow!
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NPC ideas:
infomorph thief who uses a critter to physically interface
fixer who secretly works for firewall
lost generation psionic (fleeing people trying to find them maybe?)
Barsoomian revolutionary who will try to recruit the PC
uplift who empathises with being owned by a corp
university student who seems a little oblivious to their own privilege
reposted with tha rest
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rich friend who thinks everyone goes on seasonal vacations to the moon
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yes
earnest wave
Oh my god???
I rolled well enough to take control of their body and paralyzed them by injecting visions of the horrible monster around the corner into their AR
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"Do you... like cases?"
"No?"
"Why don't you get a new morph?"
"I'm poor."
earnest wave
This AI was kind of mean…
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Hahahahahha
earnest wave
But you gotta be tricky when you don’t have hands
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NPC ideas:
infomorph thief who uses a critter to physically interface
fixer who ...
Perfect shit
Love this
All of this is beautiful
Gosh I’d love to spectate this
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But you gotta be tricky when you don’t have hands
It is what it is
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Gosh I’d love to spectate this
I'll definitely keep you posted on the goings on
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if the player was anyone but my bf spectating would be on the table but it is generally gonna be a fairly intimate campaign
I am imagining infomorph thief really leaning into anime-esque aesthetics with how they present on the mesh AR
extremely animated 2d AR hallucination
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Understandable understandable
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extremely animated 2d AR hallucination
That would be adorable
earnest wave
Yeah the body shortage is a big deal
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I am glad I chose to use ep1e money instead of just giving gp and mp narratively
this has a lot more oomph for what I wanted
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Plus flats are also rare because like, nobody uses them
Except for Jovians but I feel like you can’t buy them from Jovians without that actually being human trafficking
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also "high" is relative, its really not that expensive
earnest wave
Yeah GP and MP is a really good system for the mission and move playstyle (which was previously badly supported) but for this kind of game numerical money is better
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5k on average
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I mean this game in particular I want even 1k to feel like a lot
that's a months pay and just under a months rent!
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oh definitely
its all relative
buying a morph is a big expense to anyone who isnt loaded but how big varies dramatically
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yeah
Hold on your muse could present to you in the mesh ar
Remembering a cyberpunk red char a friend made who had an ai girlfriend who kept convincing them to do more and more evil shit and realised that would be a great muse concept
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Lmao
Could be a fun subverted muse
One of the exsurgent Infomorphs I wanted to do was built to mimic Ali’s or muses
Killing and wearing their digital flesh and ids
And small enough to fit inside of mesh inserts or a smartgun
Exsurgent infomorph sitting on your shoulder convincing you to do some nightmarish shit
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Fuck yes
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And small enough to fit inside of mesh inserts or a smartgun
Thats funny because her ai girlfriend was the truelove sniper rifle AI from one of the RED expansions
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LMAO
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Fuck yes
alternatively exsurgent infomorph subtly installing basiliks and editing you to be worse and worse, sitting on your shoulder
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It pushed her to investigate netwatch and AI conspiracies
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OOOO
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Oh yeah for this campaign I will be running I want to do an arc where, since the PC is a backup, they meet their original
And I maybe want to ask the question "how much do you want your body back?"
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Except for Jovians but I feel like you can’t buy them from Jovians without that ...
That would be a really interesting way to introduce the firewall fixer
"We got flats for sale. Don't tell anyone about em."
"Don't ask where they come from, neither."
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And I maybe want to ask the question "how much do you want your body back?"
yessssssss
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It fills a market niche and provides the service of cheap, affordable biomorphs to indents looking to finally live in physical space rather than relying on renting simulspaces
And besides! They were dead already!
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how did they die
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Aint my place to ask questions like that and it aint yours either
I do like the idea of a body smuggling ring that involves a whole connected ring of morgue smugglers
Jovian morgue workers have a reputation like medieval millers
Lots of testing and screening to make sure "yes, this is your loved ones ashes"
But if you get enough people in on it you could run yourself a pretty little business shipping corpses from jupiter to the inner colonies and selling those corpses as biomorphs
Wow that's fucked
But the interesting part is that jupiter and other bioconservative societies are the only places you can do that really
I cant imagine most transhuman cultures care enough about dead biomorphs to have much opportunity to sneak it out like that
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Can you bring a biomorph back from the dead? I guess if you preserve it quick enough to prevent necrosis from setting in, all you need to do is get a cyberbrain in there and start sending electrical pulses
As long as it wasnt old age that killed it it should be good to go
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Can you bring a biomorph back from the dead? I guess if you preserve it quick en...
in theory
but it might also be braindead enough that you could stick another ego in there
im not actually sure
you could probably revive it though? in theory
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I think you'd need a new healthy brain
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yeah but thats like, doable with EP tech
abstract bloom
Ye
Which is why u slot in a new brain and cyberbrains are nice
Though it could probably be any brain type
queen harness
you can definitely do it and the profit margins have to be slim in most places
the real solution...
is corpse pods
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honestly theres a real business to be had by taking a dead jovian flat and rejuvinating it
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Oh my god
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yeah
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Stitching together parts from corpses as pods
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slap a cyberbrain in there, some fresh cybernetics, sell it as a pod
queen harness
even just one corpse!
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Oh yeah you could just make it into a pod rather than a full biomorph
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would be cheaper and faster
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Is there a reason to prefer a biomorph to a pod?
queen harness
just yank out the brainstem and any bad organs, slot in a cyberbrain, some cheap synthetic organs, wire everything back up and staple it back together
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less points of failure
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Is there a reason to prefer a biomorph to a pod?
for one your mind isnt digital
so on a practical level someone cant hack you and delete your entire brain
plus you get all the fun biochemical responses instead of digital simulations
for another rarer preference
psi sleights only work on biomorphs
(at least if you're watts-macleod)
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so on a practical level someone cant hack you and delete your entire brain
That's true
Cortical stacks aren't mesh connected are they?
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nope!
and theyre 1 way
you cant download code into a cortical stack to hurt someone
the cortical stack is a 1 way data backup
stuff gets uploaded into it
rather than reconnected to your brain
plus biomorphs are probably pretty comfy if youre sleeved into something nice
like a splicer or exalt
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Needs to be physically destroyed
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that shits basically immortal, always looks nice, barely needs sleep, and can be overall relaxing
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I need me an exalt irl
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yup
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I imagine yea pods still have digital and computer issues
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that shits basically immortal, always looks nice, barely needs sleep, and can be...
you can still use AR for your internet shit, you can take the fun drugs, and you can do shit like drink, eat, sleep
yeah
you have to update the firmware on your pods n shit
combined with the chemical dependencies corps tend to slap onto them but lets be honest thats less an inherent issue with pods and more an issue with corps
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Pods still simulate everything through a digital mind and especially on the lower cost end sensations might be muddled and shitty
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Yea
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still...for many a pod is their first step up from a synth
at least for the clanking masses (is that what theyre called i forget)
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just yank out the brainstem and any bad organs, slot in a cyberbrain, some cheap...
And honestly it still wouldn't be that bad
Probably better than most pods (if a little palid)
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at least for the clanking masses (is that what theyre called i forget)
Yea the clanking masses
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yeah yeah
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Renting is 1% of a morphs cost/day
Biomorph rentals for indentured synthmorphs
The leases would be crazy
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yeah
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"Make sure to come back with 90% of your blood. Make sure to read the list of drugs you can take, and the maximum amount."
Having to rent a simulspace vr booth to feel what it's like to eat, drink, sleep, lie down
I imagine low end synthmorphs have no tactile sensations other than pain and the feeling where you know how much pressure to apply to something to not break it
earnest wave
Can you bring a biomorph back from the dead? I guess if you preserve it quick en...
Yeah it’s possible
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I imagine low end synthmorphs have no tactile sensations other than pain and the...
they might not actually have pain either
you might just have like
indicators
of damage
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Getting a flashing red triangle on your ar vision
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yeah
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Yeah I imagine it feels a bit like piloting a mech or smthn
Or driving a car
Super dissociative
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yeah
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Wow that fucking sucks!!!!!
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and thats just your body
high end synthmorphs may have much higher quality haptics
but
yeah
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Oh for sure
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no your body is just this cold shell when youre poor in eclipse phase
it's nightmarish
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High end synthmorphs probably just feel like being a person
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yeah
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Well person is wrong term
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or at least
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But you get what I mean
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you keep the cool parts of being a robot
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A sidegrade to being biological
There are some things u don't feel
Touch screens must SUCK with metal hands
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that is i suppose why most people consider touch screens primitive
mesh inserts + ar is basically how most interactive buttons are designed
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Ahhh makes sense
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yeah eclipse phase relies on the mesh for
so much
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I'm sure this could not go wrong
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hahaha
surely not
SURELY Not
SURELY THE EXISTENTIAL THREAT WHICH HAS A COMPUTER VIRUS AS A PRIMARY VECTOR
WOULD NEVER
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I am certain that having everyones brain connected to the internet
Is not that bad
What do you mean jim got his brain fried?
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jim totally didnt get his brain fried
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Well that's just the price of progress
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jim's talking to me right now!
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Rimward team
Thirdworm - Slayer trickster(Female(?))
Tellocomehere - Xenomorph socialite(Male)
Ooz - Slimegirl Assassin(Female)
Spite - Infolife Saboteur(Nonbinary)
Sunward Team
Bite - Child Jovian Xenomorph(Nonbinary)
Slither - Exhuman Psychosurgeon(Male)
Mothcarve - Martian Hypercorporate Psion(Female)
Tinker - Second generation Nanoengineer(Male)
On the topic of jims
i have some malignant pc teams i might be tinkering with
just as also the oc set for dialogues too
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Or maybe addition to barsoomian
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(second generation refers to them being the 'child' of an exsurgent creature that became malignant)
(such as a jelly's spawn, an immolator drone, an immolator spore, etc)
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Or maybe addition to barsoomian
do tell
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Fought the titan remnants in the TQZ and now rocks a fury TITAN Buster morph
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OOOO
yeah barsoomian titan busters are great
they can even be super gung ho and kinda like, fiery as a personality!!!
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Yesssss
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cus thats the type of person whos into ACTION
thats the type of person who has stared a fucking fractal in the face and didnt back down
...i mean probably
fractals are creepy as fuck
but titan warbots or headhunters
busting robots in the TQZ
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The main thing that gets me and also my group abt running an ep game is that we loooooove our character refs
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seeing the most terrifying shit and not backing down
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50% of pre campaign prep for my play groups players is looking for a good pic to use as a faceclaim
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hahahah
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Maybe the real benefit is that you can use a bunch of them 🤔
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headcanoning that this specifically is a titan buster Fury
though, i suppose furies are also shockingly able to easily blend in to normal transhuman crowds
so overtly theyre not too...obvious
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I imagine a titan buster is fairly obvious since they tend to have unique tats
A big part of having it is being able to be overt about having it, I imagine
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```
Rimward team
Thirdworm - Slayer trickster(Female(?))
Tellocomehere - Xenomor...
i am quite proud of these little bastards tbh.
each crew has...a fuckin story behind them somewhere
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Ooo these are fun
Slimegirl assassin????
Oh yea I also had a funny thought abt npc genders
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Ooz was a uh
one of the first people infected with the xenomorph exsurgent strain
she was a Jelly
she just later became malignant
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It would be way too easy to make the uplift the nb one so instead I want to make the neo-corvid hyper masculine but in a crow kinda way
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got some sapience and hoped in a kytos morph to continue sliming it up
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It would be way too easy to make the uplift the nb one so instead I want to make...
perfect
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she was a Jelly
I have never heard of em
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yea
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got some sapience and hoped in a kytos morph to continue sliming it up
Kytos?
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the funny thing about ooz is that she always had a slimegirl aesthetic and it was while melting into an amorphous pile of acidic goo was mostly traumatizing it was a liiiittle bit relieving.
Kytos is the homebrew malignant morph that lets you become a shapeshifting slime.
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Oooo that's fun
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can change its texture to mimic any biomorph on its outer shell, but is made of goo
lemme go find the chatlogs on the kytos i was quite proud of them
you might get a kick
Eyechat // Open Channel: Kytos Exsurgent Morphology
Scry: Soooo what's the difference between these and regular exsurgent Jellies?
Screwbolt: Viscosity and durability. Consciousness ain't as distributed either, if you kill the central nucleus, it *does* die. Plus they're a lot more...liquidy. Easier to kill.
Slug: They've also got some FREAKY ASS mimicry sometimes. They're way better at this shit than Jellies are because they can look like biomorphs. I even saw one crawl *inside* a case, and then pilot it around from the inside. Jellies may be smart, but the Kytos is way smarter. Remember, these things aren't just alien monsters, they're alien monsters that think like *us*.
Scry: That would explain why one tried flirting with me once.
Screwbolt: What
Slug: What
@@@@@@@//Thread: Kytos
Ooz: soooo believe it or not, I used to be into slimegirl stuff BEFORE I got infected with a xenomorph strain. And like, sure, when I got infected I was terrified and scared for my life and identity as my skin and bones melted into sludge. But I was also like, weirdly relieved. So I'm super happy the Kytos exists.
Tinker: GIRL THE OOBLECK MORPH EXISTED! WHAT THE HECK! YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GET YOUR GENDER EUPHORIA FROM THE EVIL VIRUS!!!!
Ooz: NOT WHEN I WAS BORN! Remember, I was infected during the fall before we got all the cool goo morphs. I was in the first batch of Jelly infections.
Tinker: How the fuck did you get off of Earth?
Ooz: Hecaloth picked me up.
Oh I should fuck around with an oobleck npc that'd be fun
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Ooblecks are great
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Whats the name for psionics again I forgor
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asyncs
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Eyechat // Open Channel: Kytos Exsurgent Morphology
Scry: Soooo what's the ...
Also these are good
Yessss that's it
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most friendly ('friendly') asyncs are in biomorphs cus thats the only way their psi powers work
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Also these are good
eee thank you.
the difference between eyechat and the malignant chats on morphs are
one of them is telling you how to kill them, the other is giving their thoughts on them as a body
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yeah its real goober behavior
but also is a funny way to remind that malignants are people
which is somehow more disturbing considering what they do
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Had an idea for the async npc to not even be transhuman
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interesting
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They are a (spliced) person but still in their original body and not yet digitized
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No cortical stack
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thats hilarious
...
yeah
i mean
if theyre in a futura
from the lost generation
they might have been digital at some point but they genuinely might not have a stack
they lived in a time accelerated simulation, got infected with horrible evil virus, and then ran the fuck away
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Unsure if they'll be lost gen or some other async runaway
But also I might need to read up on the lost gen more
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nodnod
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Maybe that'll be the uni student instead (no stack)
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...that would be WILD
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That'll be for when he's 25 and his brain has finished developing!
Technically an exalt, but born an exalt
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nodnod
fascinating
most people arent born without a stack installed
at least, i think?
i dont actually remember the dynamic
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I remember reading that it's usually consisered immoral to get a stack installed before adulthood
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It just depends when adulthood is considered
But if his parent(s? Maybe singular) is immortal hypercorp money god then 25 as "adult enough" nakes sense
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yeah
(also yeah maybe just a singular immortal hypercorp money god dad is really funny)
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I imagine it's generally 18-21 though
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mhm
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The 21st birthday cortical stack surgery celebration!
Upper middle class suburban birthday
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honestly their dad might not care if they like
get it early or not, but our little suburban boy might care deeply about being a good and nice boy and only getting it at 25
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Biomorphs are vat grown but are they grown literally from 0-18 or is it still accelerated
I forget
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i think theyre accelerated but it still TAKES a while to make a biomorph
compared to a pod or synth
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Yeah
Pods are like a month of vat growth
Synths can be pumped off the assembly line
Biomorphs take years
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yeah
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yEAH!!!
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i thought they had a whole "time accelerated simulation lord of the flies" incident too no?
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Migggght be wrong on that?
Oh yeah but I think they are in vr while also being futura brains
While the futura is developing and growing they are in simulspace
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
that would make sense
that entirely would track
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i dont remember...
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Not got any pdfs on me rn so I'm going off wikis lmfao
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Yeah
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Oh, another NPC could be like... an older indentured person. Kind of a parental figure.
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Ooooo that'd be fun
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interesting
objective age is around 5 for this one lost generation character
so
af 5? at least?
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Overtly make them a bit of a fish out of water type
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Overtly make them a bit of a fish out of water type
thats cuteeeee
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It says they were sleeved but I'll probably just run it as them being grown as futuras
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Yknow I realised
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a bunch of pods
with futuras growing in them
while the simulation starts breaking dowwn
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yeah this also does imply that like
they were in the bodies as they were being grown
but completely jacked into cyberspace
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Oh, another NPC could be like... an older indentured person. Kind of a parental ...
Big fan of this
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The remaining subjects
were either recaptured and placed in cold storage, euthanized, given sanctuary
with sympathetic authorities, or publicly submitted themselves to therapy and
psychosurgery. However, a fair portion of subjects — at least two hundred by
some rough detective work, if not more — managed to evade tracking and simply
disappeared into the system’s backwaters
also man
yeah no wonder they dont wanna reveal themselves on mars
they might literally get dragged back to a cognite facility to have their fucking mind wiped or be killed which...
god yeah thats not fun!
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Big fan of this
also yeah its super cute