#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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vagrant dove
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The Portents of Doom

eternal berry
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My brother has a term for these things: plot bombs

buoyant stream
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considering the entire dialogue of Ruina is just Chekhov showing off his gun cabinet? yeah

vagrant dove
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THESUNTHESUNTHESUN is the flavour text you get when you encounter it in that game, for context

stoic fjord
eternal berry
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Probably why the City approves the existence of Stars of the City

vagrant dove
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Anyway gn chat

atomic steeple
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Years ago the soul eater wiki got vandalised with an edgy copypasta about madness and ragnarok abusing crona

eternal berry
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A kind of false nebula to inspire more recycled stories

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I don’t know where this shit is going either. It’s just something I’ve picked up on. God help us all

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Wishes, stars, stories, constellations, nebulae…

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<I suppose there are people with stories in the Outskirts, too.>
<Stories, different from those of the City…>

cosmic gorge
atomic steeple
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Cute

stoic fjord
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Adorable

atomic steeple
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Mental image of kid faust

cosmic gorge
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what sort of OC would paus make

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actually, what sort of OCs would any of the sinners make as kids

keen palm
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Yi Sang: Has written 10 pages of backstory for his OC, has not given them a name.
Faust: Self-Insert, clearly just another Faust
Don Quixote: Clearly just combined 5 fixers together
Ryoshu: Full Shadow the Hedgehog with a completely incomprehsnibly written name and backstory, Sinclair is traumatized.
Mersault: Mersault with his backstory being the last 24 hours of his life.
Hong Lu: Didn't make one, just asks questions about everyone else's.
Heathcliff: Big cool action Hero named "Rough Killer"
Ishmael: Clearly just a repurposed D&D character
Rodion: "So I figured it'd be cool if I made her secretly a princess of, like, 5 different Wings but she DENIES her destiny because she can naturally manifest mang and shin-"
Sinclair: Makes a pair of characters that are just normal people with delightfully complimentary designs.
Outis: Not a original character, not a self-insert, but a secret third thing (Dante-insert)
Gregor: Guy in a suit. Nothing weird.

cosmic gorge
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i think faust would have something as goofy and self-indulgent as yisang rodya and/or don's but is embarassed/too browbeaten to reveal it

stoic fjord
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Rodion's is so real

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Like that's 110% true

keen palm
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Actually no, I revise Faust

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Faust compiles a list of the most common traits available under various search engine tags of "original character", "OC", and etc, to create the statistically most best OC possible

bronze zephyr
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sdjkfnsdfs every supported ryoshu after tmrw is gonna be hos

lean fjord
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I think I have mine set to FASshu still

main scaffoldBOT
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We usually keep our support IDs on either walpurgisnacht IDs or IDs from the previous season that are unshardable

bronze zephyr
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snrk

karmic escarp
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interesting

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I DID IT??

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50 MFING ADVERSITY AT LAST....

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my final 5 floors

bronze zephyr
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woohoo~

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why has KJH been playing story for the past 3 hours, he apparently started at Sweeping and is only at Jia Qiu, he said he wanted to do MD, what is this

cosmic gorge
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also has anyone pointed out that Fully Fed HoS Ryoshu in MD would have exactly 4 starting skill slots-

stoic fjord
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How life is GENUINELY going to feel after I shard Renclair and HoS Ryoshu today

atomic steeple
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Okay, I have 18000 lunacy saved up, plus 42 tickets

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I think, I could have missed a zero

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Oh dear, 200 ydeality on walpurgis might be a ways off

stoic fjord
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How it feels not saving for walp fully knowing this could be the Crimson Scar Ishmael and Cobalt Scar Heathcliff walp

cosmic gorge
keen palm
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I'm gonna roll for Outis no matter what tbh

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I want the middle team

stoic fjord
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Hitting the Mirror Dungeon mines for her

faint pivot
atomic steeple
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Hm, does ring middle work as a team?

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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after Outis we should have 5 middle IDs right?

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oh wait

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6

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I guess they'd work

dusty sigil
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I mean the main issue I see the lack of envy defenses

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It’d be really easy to break the resonance chain without them

gentle mulch
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people have tried envy res with worse options

dusty sigil
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I mean yah but like, we don’t have to anymore

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We have the technology

gentle mulch
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but some people really like being put in the torture pit

stoic fjord
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I'm fairly sure the best envy res team is 6 middle and Lamp Gregor

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Lamp Gregor because he contributes to burn for presumably 3 units once Outis drops, and then also doesn't interrupt chains due to being speed 1 once you get going

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And anyways you don't need the full res in the first turn or two for him to ramp... down? Up? To zero speed

gentle mulch
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you can defense him and sacrifice hp for the special shot

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shit

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but yeah I'm writing a lamp apology form your niche is seen

atomic steeple
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Easy envy ego

dusty sigil
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Honestly the best envy team with Matthias Outis might just be running the 6 of them and double slotting her

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Unless she does something weird all the middle enhances counters can be triggered twice per turn

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So by double slotting her you now get 2 skill 3 counters from her a turn, plus quicker ramp into whatever alternative form and enhanced skill 3 she’s got

dusty sigil
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Also it’s mean you can kill Middle Ishmael faster

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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Ah

faint pivot
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Also finals for me but

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Am abstaining from here specifically cause I'm not ruining that stash of mine

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It is enough to hit pity Once for Binah and has (approximately) enough Shards to at minimum shard the remaining IDs in the season

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Also, it still has my guaranteed 000, which I'll be using on Walp

atomic steeple
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Yeah I am saving up

stoic fjord
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...wait.

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...Matthias outis... might be in the middle of cutting Kiramael in half in the teaser image

worthy haven
stoic fjord
worthy haven
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Multicrack which has been a member of envy res for a long while now

stoic fjord
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Ah

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I mean, yeah, she's got good support for envy

unique bane
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canto 9 spoilers

atomic steeple
cloud wadi
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Because middle inflict a wide wide variety of debuffs

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Which supercharges rings gimmick

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But it’s also a bit one sided synergy

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Middle can supercharge rings but not vice versa

mystic ermine
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Killing you.

keen palm
cloud wadi
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Some of the ring have envy res

keen palm
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The big ones

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Hong Lu, Rodya, and Faust all have it

cloud wadi
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Yeah

split beacon
mystic ermine
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so close

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Gods fucking

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next turn

keen palm
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also lmao

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I never noticed the little finger wiggle Rodya does

lean fjord
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Rufo also does it IIRC

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Need to pull the strings in the claw taut

split beacon
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“Labubushiki” I’m cryne

mystic ermine
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another secret boss??

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Oh mein gott
Zis dungeon ist full off fathers

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I DID IT

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I FUCKING DID IT

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ONE HUZNDRED

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IN A SOLO

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RRRRHHHHHAAAAAAA

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I ah
forgot to
use Ira but

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now that's a lotta damage

buoyant stream
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this is the best damage i got so far in my solos

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had to abuse 4MF corrosion with coin because the game didnt wantto give me any secret bosses ech

buoyant stream
mystic ermine
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let me relish in my achievements

buoyant stream
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for what it's worth ive also just been no-life-ing this stupid id

gentle mulch
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she's so fucking cool

atomic steeple
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Gonna see if she can kill Hurtily abd its minions so many times they die before the factory event

buoyant stream
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and killing them multiple times over in a turn doesnt count

gentle mulch
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and skipping the investigation is never faster right

lean fjord
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not quite sure

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I still usually skip it

fluid whale
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I think event procs on 2 turns where the passive activates on anyone, which is easiest to do on the minions

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Then the 2nd event when the passive procs on the big guy

keen palm
stoic fjord
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kira.....

worthy haven
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phew I really thought the fans drove her away

atomic steeple
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It's written there

buoyant stream
atomic steeple
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Huh I managed to permakill hurtily before

buoyant stream
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you either investigate the factory or you kill them 5 times

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and it will five you the choice event before you kill them 5 times

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
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Crazy tech

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Facade to avoid skill animations for team kills

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I think also just being a bit faster in general

tired canyon
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God

It's been more than a year and the lance clash on canto 7 still makes me cry

stoic fjord
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are we getting any drops today

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like, anything important

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ah. nope.

buoyant stream
bronze zephyr
main scaffoldBOT
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Just 6 more hours... just 6 more hours...

Dawnmon (Kutuzov <3) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Nope just the ability to shard HOS Ryo

stoic fjord
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wait

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we can't shard until after update? it's not based on refresh?

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fuck my entire stupid baka life

atomic steeple
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SO what is modern burn team, now

bronze zephyr
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i prioritize units that can best fuel Trichillocosm

vagrant dove
tired canyon
stoic fjord
buoyant stream
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For mirror dungeons she's just exodia, yeah

bronze zephyr
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shes not even in her final form

buoyant stream
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very true

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there's 2 more coins we need to get heh

tired canyon
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"feed me more broken families" -bladeshu

buoyant stream
stoic fjord
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aiui that's actually more niche even if it performs well

atomic steeple
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I need to get good sanity support on my mb outis
She eats a lot of sanity

cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
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Sharded renclair

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Just waiting for ryoshu now

gentle mulch
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perks of great tri ryoshu:

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instantly corrode and kill everyone

bronze zephyr
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LMAO

gentle mulch
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i still stand by contempt awe being my pick for story fights and general usage and whatnot

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since like

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to me, nothing beats ego resource generation

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but like

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in mirror dungeons if im doing a daily run i just superbia corrode and then kill everyone off

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plus ryoshu's base skills are already cracked as fuck

buoyant stream
gentle mulch
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youre jealous i can fuel garden of thorns (i have already killed gregor)

buoyant stream
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killing gregor for the love of the game as well

gentle mulch
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yoshihideshu just makes it so satisfying to turn sinners into art*putty

bronze zephyr
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1.5 hrs until shardable ryo right?

stoic fjord
bronze zephyr
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oh dang

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rup

gentle mulch
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as horrifying as The War will be

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given ACSinclair's theme im really excited to see more of that kinda beat

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especially with the ring fauvists just having a Good Track for masked nobodies we slime out in between character moments

cosmic gorge
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i need to see some cubists

bronze zephyr
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Yeag I’m excited for all the diff ring factions

stoic fjord
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I wonder if any of the fingers other than the ring have factions

cosmic gorge
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i imagine the thumb has other subsidiaries aside from the kurokumo

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the middle has sections but not much aesthetic differences between them

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the Index has different prescript delivery machines and probably different gods

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the pinky:

unique bane
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canto 9 spoilers

stoic fjord
unique bane
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Speaking of that event

stoic fjord
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26 minutes...

unique bane
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||ryoshu has the post canto 9 version of her sword. We know araya's in there. Do you think she woke up one day and saw her nom as a toddler and had a wtf moment?||

stoic fjord
unique bane
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Yeah, i forgot
Still think it's a funny mental image

main scaffoldBOT
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crafts muga Ryoshu

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…okay so this is the worst end ID we have ever gotten, got it

stoic fjord
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I'm MDing with her rn

main scaffoldBOT
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Also, we now see why Rien never finished those stories

gentle mulch
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they kinda sucked ass

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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rien can you get like

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the hungry caterpillar or something

stoic fjord
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Rien get some Pete the Cat

main scaffoldBOT
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“EVERYTHING YOU DO WILL END IN TRAGIC FAILURE”

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) "GOD WILL PUNISH YOU VIOLENTLY FOR YOUR HUBRIS"

vagrant dove
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Poor ryoshu

main scaffoldBOT
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So the strat with her is to murder literally everyone right?

vagrant dove
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Yeah p.much

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Kill any House of Spiders ids on your team then kill the enemies

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Oh shit it's late

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I should eep, gn chat

vagrant dove
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Completely lost track of time 😭

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Gn!

gentle mulch
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i get it

main scaffoldBOT
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Fake Ryoshu fan /j

NACL | Scifi Sicko 2 ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Completely lost track of time 😭

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I wonder if she’d be any good on a poise tea- no wait she kills two of our best IDs

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Hmm

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Maybe just put in some fodder IDs for her to kill before the Ring duo get sent in

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Like, a Faubina and a Middle Ishmael or something

cosmic gorge
main scaffoldBOT
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…actually, Outis doesn’t contribute much to the team either, throw her into the memory blender too

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Like, a Faubina and a Middle Ishmael or something

gentle mulch
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yoshi/hide is best in poise/burn last i checked

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and her faction team

main scaffoldBOT
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Poise burn is a thing?

gentle mulch
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poise or burn

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idk if people run poise-burn

cosmic gorge
gentle mulch
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yoshihide can run poise with minimal support (using defense skills, thoracalgia and/OR killing renclair)

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and burn as an accelerant

buoyant stream
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yeah the bleed is basically cosmetic/there for MD purposes

cosmic gorge
gentle mulch
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i do too unfortunately i dont have her

cosmic gorge
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who else is poise and burn aside from captain ish

buoyant stream
cosmic gorge
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oh nice

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i got them all

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now just to slot in 2 burn ids and 2 poise ids for this

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comp

bronze zephyr
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Valencina Rodya likely will be burn tremor poise so that’ll be four

buoyant stream
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yeap

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which means we can bench ishy again

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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Ryoshu + Renclair + NFsang + One flex means you can double slot a buffed ryoshu on a team of other poise units

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still lets you have 8 sinners to work with on that regard

stoic fjord
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Anyways I've been doing MD with new ryo

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Incredible. I feel amazing.

cosmic gorge
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she feels cool doesnt she

stoic fjord
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Yes

cosmic gorge
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shes fun to facade over other ryo ids

stoic fjord
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I've been considering facading others over her as well

cosmic gorge
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also wow BL Faust has such a deep solemn voice in her lose quote

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running a Desperado Team in MD sure is

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sure is

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in terms of ids, statuses, and sin types
very
Scattershot

lean fjord
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It's probably gonna get better once we have more Thumb

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Then you have Tremor as a fulcrum at least

cosmic gorge
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true
but also im being a lil freak and using beesault rn

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instead of aurasault

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wonder who'll get the katriel id

bronze zephyr
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ugh i need mathoutis and thumb duo already this is agony

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though after mathoutis next week itll prolly be 9.5-2

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veryyyyyyyyy curious as to those

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index maybe if they wanna release more fingers this season..?

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or thumb to complete that as a full team

worthy haven
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Eh I could see some glimpse of what new n units will look like

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And possibly new Kim id obvi

bronze zephyr
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What I Really want is Charge Sinclair and Meursault

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Electric Screaming Meursault ID would be kind of fun

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KQE Aeng Du Sinclair

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though the LCD aren't like known to use EGO Gear so

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Burn Don and Charge Ishmael maybe, its been a while since either of them have had IDs

atomic steeple
cosmic gorge
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Has that sinchair

stoic fjord
uneven canopy
stoic fjord
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Floor 15 Ring got hands

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But also I think I can do this with Ira or smth

unique bane
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Cool write up about corproism and fauveisn

cosmic gorge
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adding to this

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so the Ring is Lust in the limbus sense of being all about the spreading of beliefs and ideology, propagation of concepts
but theyre Also in a way, Lust in the theological sense, not the specifically sexual sense, but in the root of Lust as that drive to objectify and reduce a person to a something that benefits the luster
the dehumanization/objectification/reduction of decency for the benefit of the other

and the Ring in the sense of them reducing living things to grotesque art, also embody Lust

stoic fjord
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She can do it against the fuckass inquisitors but the mfs she got fundamental multiversal beef with ain't it??

vagrant dove
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finally sharded her!

vagrant dove
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everything has to be new

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ingredients have to be collected

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to fill the emptiness in their art

cosmic gorge
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yepp

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and Gluttony is (outside of limbis) sometimes defined as the lack of value given to important things

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which in this case, is life

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the body is elevated, cherished, objectified
but life and the living thing is to be wasted

vagrant dove
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the only value of life (to them) is as an ingredient in the ring's art

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which I think is seen most clearly in Callisto's reaction to Albina's death

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the team is coming along, just need to get more thread and level Sinclair and the new Ryoshu id

cosmic gorge
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callilu has pride there too which is also his bad end's strongest sin ability

gentle mulch
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oh i suppose you don't even need to level or uptie a HoS team

vagrant dove
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see Rufo

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and Pontillist Yi Sang

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which i think represents the psychological inertia of the Schools

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obviously it isn't as relevant as say, Sloth is to the Thumb

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I think the Ring prob maps onto a quite a few because of the nature of their syndicate

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pride, for example

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which is represented in their logo

cosmic gorge
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its weird that rufo has sloth when she seems excited to learn about Ryo's planned new art movement

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i cant map sloth onto her except for the aformentioned inertia of the Schools which might not be her-specific

vagrant dove
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it isn't, Yi Sang has sloth in his s3

cosmic gorge
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yeah but that feels like yisang bringing himself into the ring
brother left the rot o fthe past to fill that void with poisonous artistry

vagrant dove
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true

vagrant dove
cosmic gorge
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mmmhmm

vagrant dove
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which Ryoshu calls her out on

vagrant dove
cosmic gorge
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yep

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also its why i dont vibe with his sin spread

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it feels all over the place and it doesn't feel genuine yanno

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Furioso is only wrath because hes larping as a larper who larped an angrier man's crashout compared to his miserable acceptance

vagrant dove
# vagrant dove pride, for example

There's also gloom bc of course the past is constantly weighing on high ranking Ring members (rufo, ringrodya)

You need to always be making New Fresh Art

cosmic gorge
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true

vagrant dove
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Otherwise you end up like the Corporists

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I love sin analysis

vagrant dove
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Which I suppose makes sense

atomic steeple
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Used my uptie module on ryoshu

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Built a burn team for her, plus the ring duo

vagrant dove
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I really genuinely love how like

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Plug and play this season's design is

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Like these ids can team together, you can put them in status teams

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You can do factional teams to a certain extent

atomic steeple
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Now I'm gonna accumulate stuff
To then get other ids later on
Besides rien, hard to choose who to get
This season is too good

vagrant dove
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It feels a lot better than previous seasons where it's kind of just a singular team with other status ids around

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(The manor team, bloodfiends, heishou)
Not that those ids are bad, things just feel more flexible

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Esp with dual statuses

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A lot of this is possible bc of the bedrock laid by previous ids, ofc

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But still

glad fable
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Just realized the second sword in Great Trichiliocosm Ryoshu is (a more messed up version of) the sword from Forest For the Flames

vagrant dove
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Holy shit yeah

glad fable
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We knew the other two were based on Laevateinn and Arayashiki, but never figured out the second one

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Also wow Muga Ryoshu is fun

buoyant stream
gentle mulch
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yeah

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on a purely HoS team you can just leave em at level 1 for all you care since the conditional is just them being dead

cloud wadi
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Please give her more family members

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I promise you she’s a stable individual who can be trusted with them unsupervised

gentle mulch
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ONBE THOUSHAN D MORE PINKY APPRENTICES

buoyant stream
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you just had to miss that last coin huh

hybrid lynx
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i did not read that charge count right

dusty sigil
bronze zephyr
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Graaah 12hrs until Mathias Outis and rr teaser

bronze zephyr
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RRs usually have ~3 new abnos or sm right?

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Hoping for Yinglong Duchess and Centipede for this one

stoic fjord
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butterfly of entangled fates I think it was

bronze zephyr
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Maybe

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Not sure if they’ll do C8, C9, or C8+C9

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Might be a King in Binds situation

stoic fjord
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Bad end ryo solo with full HoS kills so far is stronger than burn/bleed/poise team

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and she will only get stronger

fluid whale
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I hope it's yinglong plus butterfly but I bet it's just butterfly

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What are they gonna do for gimmicks though, this time around? Split team management again?

cosmic gorge
fluid whale
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oh nO

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dies to burn conditionals

tiny cave
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12 solo fights (no support ID)

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Rely on the fact that nearly every modern ID has unbreakables and would get mulched by the +X power per unbreakable

gentle mulch
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teaser tonight right?

bronze zephyr
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Yep

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In about 3.5 hrs iirc

faint pivot
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Read HoShu's UT story

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Damn, Rien

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You're still a Pointer but like

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Hoof

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Thanks for holding back bud!

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That bit near the end of the Messenger getting tossed into the "landfill" enforces my belief that the Index are amassing forces for something

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Knowing that they've attempted to recreate ||Yan in InFaust's victim and Sora, Roland in Rien, and the previous Tiansha Star|| as Proxies makes me wonder if the three we meet in Ruina are recreations of anyone (and who)

bronze zephyr
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She’s so fucking cool chat

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“A little sacrifice ain’t a thing if it’s for one of us”

cosmic gorge
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send link

ebon forge
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can arayashu use 5 id things or no?

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i assume no?

cosmic gorge
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no

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she cannae

ebon forge
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:(

cosmic gorge
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oh my fucking god

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||TTRPG Boomer Matthoutis||

bronze zephyr
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I need her

cosmic gorge
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slimiest outis yet
but also yes
||Kriegsspiel 😭 ||
||she'd probably be fond of THAC0||

ebon forge
bronze zephyr
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Oh railway trailer just dropped time to not go to bed

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||yinglong, WYP, butterfly||

cosmic gorge
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huh is ||WYP|| meant to be an aberration of ||the Nail Girl(whatever her name was)||

bronze zephyr
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Silent girl?

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||I imagined it as part of the Hurting Teddy and Happy Teddy family||

cosmic gorge
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||true, at the same time, girl with a household weapon sorta deal||

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||and is all about esoteric rules that she punishes you for||

neat cedar
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||Oh boy, it's time to play Mother 3||

atomic steeple
ebon forge
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i love how the 2 nursefathers are daddies and then the other two are mommies

cosmic gorge
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im still not over matthoutis ||being into Kriegsspiel||
||30 year old princess craves making her chuuni blorbos in JnJ and shes stuck in a wargamer household 😭 ||

faint pivot
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OH BOY

cosmic gorge
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also lmao

faint pivot
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IS THAT WHAT I THINK THEY ARE

cosmic gorge
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LMAO

faint pivot
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No idea what the top left silhouette is
Anyway || 🔊 🖕 ||

cosmic gorge
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||"THIS! IS! WHAT! YOU! WANTED! RIGHT?!" -kjh, probably||

ebon forge
faint pivot
cosmic gorge
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||Mao fau||

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dunno who the peopl in the second shot are tho

ebon forge
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OH GOD

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really hard to see

faint pivot
cosmic gorge
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whose the one up top

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||punished gregheim?||

faint pivot
# ebon forge OH GOD

Now, this is my first Railway trailer, I'm not sure if they foreshadow the ||Envy peccatulum||, but

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I'm betting that's what they are

faint pivot
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...hah

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Of ||Great Trichilocosm||, is my wager

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Oh wait nah

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It's ||WYP||, they appear here

neat cedar
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it's ||the.abno||

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ye

faint pivot
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And what follows that section is a showcase of ||Yinglong and WYP||

neat cedar
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||Seems we have two.paths.similar to last railway||

ebon forge
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love how spidershu can just clear bongy in 2 attacks

cosmic gorge
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me when i go to korea and have to take a train

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PMOON REFERENCE??

faint pivot
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I see you too, Thyme, have forgotten the souvenir

cosmic gorge
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tbh idk what id do in korea
probably as a plus one to someone else who has actual travel plans

faint pivot
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I'd only obtain the pipe dream to go to Korea for the sake of HHPP

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So that's what I'd be doing

ebon forge
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HHPP, go to all the fishing places

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try local farmstuffs

tiny cave
ebon forge
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love how hoshu is just

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"enemy exist: false"

atomic steeple
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Ah never thought we'd fight Will You Play. Thought limbus was avoiding fights with even kid abnos

faint pivot
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What made you think that?

atomic steeple
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Just an impression I got, specially because I don't think there were any id abno fights in limbus

faint pivot
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We fight Silent Girl

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
faint pivot
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Hm, misremembered how SG looks, mb

vagrant dove
atomic steeple
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If you want a fightable kid abno you had laetitia right there

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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i have a need to learn how to do music editing

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"Goofy Goober Rock but cut like a Limbus Song" needs to exist, someone has to make it

vagrant dove
atomic steeple
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might have to dust off my bloodfiend team for their survivability

vagrant dove
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And middle??
We're cooked

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Anyway yeah this season has been straight bangers, thank God i have the shards for her

stoic fjord
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Still insane to me that ||Valencina seemingly cared more about Lucio's death than Matthias did Kira's||

ebon forge
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i love her

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she's so complex

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and then matthias is...

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"me likey, me get"

vagrant dove
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I think there's also horribly fucked up possessiveness with Valencina

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She calls Ryoshu Ticket but crashes out at Vergilius for calling her a Sinner

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(Which makes Ryoshu's names matter comment in Canto 8 mean a lot more, along with the whole Yoshihide/Ryoshu thing)

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(I love her in that canto, her and Rodya get good interjections)

faint pivot
cosmic gorge
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Val is abusive in that warped sense of love kind of thing
she hurts lucio but also cares about him, which makes it disturbing to see

matthias doesn't touch a hair on kira's head but his affection for her will never overcome his own priorities (himself)

ebon forge
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ryo's evade cant kill non-hos ids, right?

faint pivot
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Nay

ebon forge
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dammit

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i have to force-corrode (pain)

tiny cave
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Do you have Thora ryo

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That targets allies on overclock

ebon forge
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not equippd rn

faint pivot
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F.B.

bronze zephyr
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You can overclock trichillocosm it had a ton of weight

tiny cave
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Overclock never hits allies unless it corrodes or you don’t have the resources

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Or it targets allies by default

bronze zephyr
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Yeah ig OC it twice or unstable it, youd need less than 6 lust wrath pride

ebon forge
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im gonna change EGOs then

bronze zephyr
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Or just Thora yea lmao

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I like trichillocosm

ebon forge
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ok i got free stagger item ShizukaYay

faint pivot
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I find it hilarious that it's Riensang talking about String Connection and "techniques that seem to contradict the nature of causality"

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I'm guessing it's Mouttias talking about Inevitable Termination

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Slay The Heavens is obviously Rodion, same with Echoshear and Hongler

bronze zephyr
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Hrm ik time is a major motif in limbus and pm overall with Hokma especially but I do hope that like time travel doenst happen

faint pivot
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Yea

faint pivot
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TT2, The Purple Tear, Abnormalities

bronze zephyr
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Like
Going back into the past or future

faint pivot
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The Index

faint pivot
bronze zephyr
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Time shenanigans are different from time travel

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Mhm basically

faint pivot
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I think the line is blurred however I agree with you

bronze zephyr
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Yeah for sure

faint pivot
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I'm admittedly interested in PMoon's depiction of a world-spanning timelord but

bronze zephyr
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If it’s done Well I won’t mind but stories with time travel as a core element usually lose me

ebon forge
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bruh wtf do i do i got forced into a fight w/ the stagger item and i only have ryoshu 😭

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it wont let me backtrack the click

faint pivot
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I'm more interested in the writhing bundle of power the Head has control over, the one so obscenely sprawling that control over Time is merely one out of at minimum 27 great forces that make part of it, and how that mess actually works

ebon forge
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i didnt even try to click that damn node 😭

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it just happened

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im at floor 7 and i dont want to redo this fucking run

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ffs

bronze zephyr
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Rip

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Happens

ebon forge
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i also swear i had anti-stagger items

tiny cave
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9 boxes

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I thought the forced stagger item was a nonbo with anti stagger

ebon forge
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i have no fucking clue

bronze zephyr
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Maybe it ignores anti stagger for some evil reason

ebon forge
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im trying to do md15 and i spent like a whole hour already

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ffs

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like

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why cant i go back a fucking node after 1 fucking misclick

cosmic gorge
ebon forge
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i had just killed them all

cosmic gorge
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like, click give up, redo the run, change loadout (put another
oh no

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oh noooo

ebon forge
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cuz i needed to kill em for the solo bonus

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like seriously

bronze zephyr
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Did you take record logs assuming it wouldn’t stagger cuz of manor music box?

ebon forge
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you can go back a node 99% of the time

ebon forge
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i didnt know what it was

bronze zephyr
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Oh you took record logs not knowing what it did ic

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Yeah record logs on a solo is bad

ebon forge
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im pretty sure i have a different anti-stagger item

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and she has her own anti-stagger iirc

bronze zephyr
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She has a 1 hp on death mechanic

ebon forge
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and another i think?

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also i hate how the thing just says ??? or something and you dont get any explaination like other events

bronze zephyr
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She has a stagger threshold removal on 3-3

stoic fjord
#

She has the death defiance, so she should survive turn 1 even if staggered, right?

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Wait. Wait no it staggers every turn

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Fuuuuck

bronze zephyr
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Mhmmm

bronze zephyr
ebon forge
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bruh

bronze zephyr
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Yeah Callisto Hong and Riensang both have anti stagger but I don’t think Blade Ryoshu does

cosmic gorge
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Dant is not allowed self-defense classes bc:

a.) this would cause them to unecessarily throw themselves into fights where they can Die
b.) limbis doesnt want dant to be independent that way
c.) Dant's past life might awaken in some way
d.) all of the above.
e.) none of the above

bronze zephyr
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Even if they unstaggered the gift woukd jist stagger then again

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Bluh

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It’s 5 am

stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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i know someone who keeps spamming the jizzing gif version of the right 😭

bronze zephyr
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God I didn’t realize how much of her chest they showed off

cosmic gorge
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however
what was it that charlie said

we have yet to see an outis ID that shows her arms

bronze zephyr
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Wait fr?

cosmic gorge
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everything beyond the shoulders

stoic fjord
bronze zephyr
cosmic gorge
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oh shit yur right

bronze zephyr
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Mayve she usually covers her war scars but her as Olga is. Like. Too drunk to care dhdjnddbdd

bronze zephyr
ebon forge
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built different

bronze zephyr
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Oh she’s in a suit that’s why I’m so attracted to her this makes sense

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I love women in suits a normal amount

bronze zephyr
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God I’d be her sugar baby

stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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i love one-turning cassette tape

bronze zephyr
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Beautiful

faint pivot
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Like how abno events you haven't done before get the ??? in MD

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Applies to cursed gifts too

uneven canopy
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back in good Internet zone, does matthoutis have a kiramael kill mechanic

gentle mulch
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yup

uneven canopy
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oh god she does

stoic fjord
uneven canopy
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also 4th match flame yisang tier V

bronze zephyr
cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
bronze zephyr
#

Matthias Outis is competing for Magic Bullet 😭

stoic fjord
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I didn't notice that

bronze zephyr
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Yea end of trailer

stoic fjord
uneven canopy
stoic fjord
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I should shard FMF if I fully shard this season

bronze zephyr
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I read that as full metal Faust what does that stand for

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Oh

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Fourth match flame

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There’s a delicious Venn diagram between FMA Limbus and Madoka Magica

gentle mulch
#

huh

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now that I think about it

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I guess it's plausible that Matthias just

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cuts through children until one survives long enough to meet Ryoshu when she comes back

gentle mulch
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like he did his best to hide the evidence of yk

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killing the middle members when he was there

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who's to say he ever stopped

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"Hey Kiddo, homework. Grade 1!"

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"Kiddo, let's take a trip to the Outskirts."

tiny cave
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There’s legends that there exists Prep children who learn how to colour, which makes them on par with Hana Association as they assign the colours

stoic fjord
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Given his attitude towards having a kid, but like, being excited the way one would be for a new toy

It wouldn't surprise me if they were disposable

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Besides Yoshihide

gentle mulch
#

well he can't exactly just line his shelves with boxed up kids

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that's riens job

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so cutting them it is

atomic steeple
#

So we get matthias and the first kid abno we can fight in limbus, together

faint pivot
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LAEVATEINN GIVE ME STRENGTH, IT'S A GRADE 1 I'M UP AGAINST

stoic fjord
#

I can't wait to listen to muga theme for the next 2 hours for this solo

keen palm
#

I dont think Matthias had any other apprentice because it doesnt seem like he actively took any into any dangerous situations

bronze zephyr
#

Yeah

bronze zephyr
wild mango
bronze zephyr
#

It was ||Callisto who killed the rest iirc||

keen palm
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Nope

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Matthias killed or mutilated all of them

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Callisto just used the corpses

dusty sigil
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Yah Callisto considered killing all those children deeply barbaric

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Unlike his tasteful memorial

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Of turning their skulls into a statue for Yoshihide

bronze zephyr
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I could Swear he only killed one of them

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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He only killed one in the CG but I think I remember it saying he killed more in the text

dusty sigil
#

He has killed dozens of children for sure

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Not for fun but for vengeance

stoic fjord
#

also possible yeah

dusty sigil
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Which just so happened to be

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Very fun

stoic fjord
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I remember someone talking about a story about a big brother killing a child's entire family but sparing the child for their infraction

bronze zephyr
#

Damn guess I missed that

stoic fjord
#

where's that from

keen palm
dusty sigil
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I believe we’re told that story when Dante is being introduced to the middle in canto 5

bronze zephyr
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Oh ic

gentle mulch
bronze zephyr
#

LOL

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God

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Man I miss Callisto

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And Shiomi

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My favorite nursefathers are the arguably best and arguably worst

keen palm
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Oh boy

gentle mulch
#

i wish we would have seen more of shiomi

bronze zephyr
#

Pecca Honglerrr

bronze zephyr
gentle mulch
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also yeah i genuinely hope mao faust uses only assist defense shenanigans in this railway

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just really rub it in

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like

lean fjord
gentle mulch
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atp make something overtuned, goad the players into asking for the nerf that they previously decried

bronze zephyr
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I wonder what the best no Heishou team will be for clearing it, prolly blade Ryoshu but

lean fjord
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Not happy we're getting more envy, but I guess it's just inevitable at this point

bronze zephyr
#

Yeah

gentle mulch
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im not happy about envy pecca fights in general

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but i guess it's canto 12 training..

lean fjord
#

I also don't really think Mao Faust will be a bigger issue than any of the others tbqh

bronze zephyr
#

Tarnished Blood is going to be so funny

lean fjord
bronze zephyr
#

I wonder if they’ll be coded to defend turn 1

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It would be funny

stoic fjord
#

my guess is that KJH will put the roosters in the backline

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specifically just to fucking obliterate us second wave

lean fjord
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Just kill Hong Lord first

stoic fjord
#

death defiance:

lean fjord
#

Which you'd probably wanna do anyway

gentle mulch
#

Defense turn 1 except for hongler who gets a special ToTB EGO use

stoic fjord
#

also their E.G.O

#

he can get TotB

bronze zephyr
#

Yeah just rush Lord t1

gentle mulch
#

and then Hong Lord only defends or S3 so that heishous swap in and out every turn

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have fun

stoic fjord
#

or

lean fjord
#

I just don't think they're gonna special case anything

gentle mulch
bronze zephyr
#

Fair

stoic fjord
#

I think ICEOUT just wants to make people suffer infinite hell for no Maost nerf

gentle mulch
#

And putting them into text

stoic fjord
#

which is fair

lean fjord
#

Which is what I mean, the enemies are too stupid to do anything too bad

bronze zephyr
#

It would be funny to go through Heishou hell

gentle mulch
#

I really do

dusty sigil
#

So long as this is the kinda railway where you keep SP between fights killing lord Hong Lu turn 1 shouldn’t be to big an issue

gentle mulch
#

I really want them to suffer

#

Wait are we all just

bronze zephyr
#

I’m excited for the new abnos

stoic fjord
#

I vote they make it genuinely agonizing as well

in part because I think it'd potentially be an interesting challenge

and I am also similarly petty and vengeful

gentle mulch
#

interpreting KongHong to not have his death defiance???

lean fjord
#

No he will

stoic fjord
lean fjord
#

The base one anyway

bronze zephyr
#

The goal is to kill him as fast as possible regardless of how many lives he’s got

stoic fjord
#

and thus no S3 switch-in

gentle mulch
#

but turn 1?

keen palm
#

It's gonna be really fucking funny

stoic fjord
keen palm
#

if he does Tarnished Blood into Wayfarer

lean fjord
#

Not turn 1, but you can stagger him and leave him for dead next turn

gentle mulch
#

yeah

lean fjord
#

Which is good enough

gentle mulch
#

but people keep bringing up turn one kills like ??? whar

#

I'm making shit up im assuming the other comments are about the actual railway

lean fjord
#

The fact is, you need to kill him first if you can
Because killing the others just makes you take a bunch of attacks for free

gentle mulch
#

Yeah

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He's also going to have hella buffs from all the Heishous in the loadout so maybe lamp gregor might be the move for deferring clashes if needed

keen palm
#

Depends on if the Envy Pecc are first in the lineup

gentle mulch
#

I'm not looking forward to fighting the HoS envy pecca next rr too

stoic fjord
#

trying to kills the others

#

killing the others gives her more slots and buffs

gentle mulch
#

My team 1 strat is going to be using C/A ryoshu, generate as much EGO resources as I can and just start wailing on em

bronze zephyr
#

Ig prio Riensang and Callisto Lu before they can get their nukes off? And prolly the other two NFs

gentle mulch
#

there's gotta be enough 7+ Attack weight EGO by now

stoic fjord
lean fjord
stoic fjord
#

yeah, only two ring

lean fjord
#

With only 2 Ring

gentle mulch
#

yeah fortunately with how the kits work they're never gonna get their nukes off if you play it right

#

Riensang you can just clash away from the mark

#

Callisto is going to have

#

0 charge support

#

0 extra ring members besides albina

#

fucking

stoic fjord
#

genuinely will only exist to feed HoS Ryoshu

gentle mulch
#

matthoutis is probably not going to have the envy res to come online fast enough

#

and also imagine spending like three, four turns unboxing all that

#

I'm scared of valendion

#

uhh

#

luciocliff is there

lean fjord
gentle mulch
#

oh god

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

if she does we should have a Gregor power up too

keen palm
gentle mulch
stoic fjord
#

she was lowk farming aura but for naught

gentle mulch
#

she had hella aura I'm not gonna lie

lean fjord
#

I love Valencina

gentle mulch
#

i saw her whip out disposal and i got nauseous

#

flashbacks

stoic fjord
#

most miserable and pathetic and horrible woman and she is very important to me

lean fjord
#

Also tbf, if it wasn't for the Kaiser she probably would have had a hell of a phase two

gentle mulch
#

if it weren't for her trying to recreate war torture she might have actually locked in

stoic fjord
#

wait

wait

#

wait

#

does...

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does HoS Ryoshu's E.G.O gift

gentle mulch
#

like if she just fucking started killing it would have been crazy

stoic fjord
#

stop support passives from dead teammates from working

gentle mulch
#

uhhhhh?

#

I'm not sure

bronze zephyr
#

Why would it?

stoic fjord
#

I just saw none of the icons for the dead sinners on the side where it shows if passives are active

bronze zephyr
#

Oh hm

gentle mulch
#

huh

stoic fjord
#

like not even grayed out

#

they're just gone

bronze zephyr
#

I think the passives still activate

#

I could be wrong though

#

Odd

stoic fjord
#

I'm not seeing em

#

also not seeing the effects

lean fjord
#

when she's normally so uptight

stoic fjord
#

I was wondering why they had a few seconds of just

#

kiramael and matthioutis standing there

#

and then I realized there's effect particles that seem to be unique

lean fjord
#

yep

#

I assume Kiramael is also gonna get some buff from being deployed together, probably a variation on the I Got Praised, that Kira has in the fight

#

also probably connected to the assist attack Outis does after Ishmael attacks there

gentle mulch
#

You found maestro media!

#

It's outdated Corporism...

stoic fjord
wild mango
bronze zephyr
#

What’s kriegspiel?

fluid whale
#

historical wargames I think

#

think little figurines of napoleonic soldiers

#

being pushed around by those little croupier sticks

bronze zephyr
#

This makes sense for madam Odysseus

buoyant stream
#

Dead sinners only contribute support passives if they died during that specific encounter

bronze zephyr
#

Nods nods

lean fjord
#

question for HoShu
I only need to run out deployed units, right?
so I can just leave the non HoS units out of deployment and she still gets the slots?

buoyant stream
#

you need to deploy atleast 1 backup unit

lean fjord
#

or I just need to kill off the others too I guess

#

also, which fusion gifts can I even make work for HoShu?

#

I guess Burn?

buoyant stream
#

if solo, none of the status ones

stoic fjord
lean fjord
#

alright

#

so just don't fuse any, got it

stoic fjord
#

if you want to do a full team, you can have 3 dead and team to activate all 3 statuses

#

though when I did this

#

she was significantly weaker

lean fjord
#

I do wanna do the solo

stoic fjord
#

off of 6 fusion gifts

stoic fjord
lean fjord
#

just need to figure out how the teamkill the non HoS people I guess

stoic fjord
#

since support passives won't matter

#

just go for your weakest IDs in the other slots and stall an encounter with HoS's evade and let everyone else die

lean fjord
#

oh right, I should just slot low level IDs for the rest

karmic escarp
#

honglord and maost envyccatulas eh?
strongest bullshit team of yesterday (hongler+heishous)
vs
strongest bullshit team of today (hoshu+hos IDs)

stoic fjord
karmic escarp
#

hoshu doesnt really give a shit about res in my experience

stoic fjord
#

also true

lean fjord
#

also do I still just replace all skills with S3 with HoShu?

#

or is it worth keeping some others around?

ebon forge
#

i saw no reason not to tbh

ebon forge
wild mango
#

Like kriegspiel is fitting for outis but OH MY GOD

gentle mulch
#

right???

#

what a fucking pull

#

i don't know why that exists like

#

pound for pound

#

in PJM

#

at least dnd got translated to JnJ

#

Outis just has a Real Life Wargame

wild mango
#

Id assume cos the name dnd is copyrighted

stoic fjord
lean fjord
#

ah I see

#

I did already replace all of them unfortunately

cosmic gorge
#

Do you need any s1s or just s2

#

I did 2 s2 4 s3 in my solo

lean fjord
#

though Ryoshu is also just tearing through things

mint cliff
#

Well that's 15/60 done for the season

stoic fjord
#

people making Matthias fight the sinnerlings cracks me the fuck up because they genuinely just facetank that shit endlessly

#

watching a 4 year old eat Lævateinn directly to the skull and just kinda shift back slightly is hilarious

gentle mulch
#

jussis

#

this is what matthias experiences in hell ad infinity tums

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

Kira in the living world next canto: My goat...is washed..?

cosmic gorge
#

Replaying twinning threads and traumatizing kira thrice over

lean fjord
#

alright, I ran into Matthias and messed it up

#

oh well

faint pivot
tired canyon
#

anyone has

#

any idea

what song bladeshu sings when idle

faint pivot
#

Sounds like the uh

#

Vocal section in the BGM for the ||Muga Ryoshu, E.M.,E.Y.|| scene

stoic fjord
#

Canto 9, boss theme 10

fickle crown
# gentle mulch but people keep bringing up turn one kills like ??? whar

I will point out the fact that Hong Lord does have an incredibly low HP value and season 1 level stagger bars, so 1 turn killing him is actually possible assuming you're not torn apart by Heishou first. I'm actually more worried about You Adept Heathcliff because he's a much bigger problem on the field (fucking immortal chicken)

fickle crown
#

You Adept Heath can also belt out an indescriminate S3 which is either going to rip your spine out of your ass (and heal him) or fail terrifically

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

His base doesn't unstagger

faint pivot
#

I was under the impression that once he hits 1 HP he stays there until next turn

#

Like with TotB

#

Ah

stoic fjord
#

So next turn you can kill him anyways

#

...unless the heishou manage lordsguard.

faint pivot
#

Alright, just gotta survive the Heishou

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

We think this team will have Maoshu, or Daishu?

stoic fjord
#

Idk how lordsguard works I just know I saw it proc like 4 times in 1 turn once

gentle mulch
#

Prolly maoshu right

#

it's da heishous baeby

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

And they got a railway already soooo~

gentle mulch
fickle crown
#

Also I was right when I said we'd have to fucking fight Lord Lu in the recent railway

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

I'd be disappointed if we didn't tbh

fickle crown
#

We are so fucked

faint pivot
#

There's so many fire Envy pecc teams we could fight

faint pivot
#

We could fight a full team of EGO gear users now, I think?

fickle crown
#

Also I want to bring up the idea that it might be better to actually kill Maost and Si Rodion first if possible

faint pivot
#

Ah Hongler isn't suited up, dang

fickle crown
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Maost just because that's the main meat of Heishou shenanigans and Si Rodion due to her S3 shenanigans

faint pivot
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I suspect Xishmael is gonna be a problem if you do that, too

stoic fjord
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Si Rodion could genuinely devastate a middle team if she gets fucky wucky enough

stoic fjord
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Then you have more guys on your ass

fickle crown
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Xishmael envy peccatula winning every clash just to spite everyone that called her a mid ID

faint pivot
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Nay

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Xishmaenvy is gonna show us her true role

stoic fjord
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KJH genuinely make this railway fucking miserable. Let me suffer 10 attempts in a row with no success. Make it unfun for anyone who isn't an extreme masochist

fickle crown
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Also her on death passive will be problematic

faint pivot
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As an unopposed looper

stoic fjord
fickle crown
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Someone gets to hit you

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For free!

stoic fjord
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Oh.

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Fun.

fickle crown
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if only Hong Lord was capable of friendly fire

stoic fjord
lean fjord
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I feel like I never have Lordsguard actually work

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just never seems to happen when I run Lord Hong

gentle mulch
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me neither lmao

fickle crown
faint pivot
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It's cause you're timing it w a defense skill turn

stoic fjord
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I get it weirdly often

gentle mulch
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assuming the starting ego resources are all at 5 like usual

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He's Got That

lean fjord
fickle crown
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I will fucking laugh if that happens btw

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Because there are two possibilities

stoic fjord
faint pivot
fickle crown
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Hong Lord doesn't die, the attack fails spectacularly and he's just staggered

Hong Lord does die, triggers his EGO and revives while also making fell bullet fail

Hong Lord dies and everyone else also fucking dies too

faint pivot
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That's just Hong Lord (on substitute, whack)

lean fjord
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but yeah the Heishou will be annoying to fight

faint pivot
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Xishmael just applies buffs to substitutes while dead

lean fjord
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not looking forward to getting hit by a million unopposed assist attacks

stoic fjord
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I want the heishou to not just be annoying but just genuinely absurdly difficult in a way that's manageable

faint pivot
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Finally, some more hard content 😋

stoic fjord
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Not as much RNG, just make that shit miserable no matter what

faint pivot
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I wanna beloathe the modern IDs for being unable to offset

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Except for the Index because this path has been predetermined

fickle crown
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This is where BotHoS Ryoshu is actually super useful because of the way fixed battles work. Also we might have to fight her lmao

stoic fjord
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Make me genuinely want to take a bite out of my keyboard

gentle mulch
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if you spam 7 weight egos and blow up the first wave of heishous, it seems like hong lu will survive for turn 1, cause every substitute heishou to skill 3 on a random opponent, and then die watching the roosters tear people up

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
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I mean this fully unironically

gentle mulch
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im still not past ricardo so i look forward to trying that again

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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Make RR6 genuinely feel like pulling teeth with no anesthesia

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Make me remember wisdom tooth extraction recovery as a pleasant and quaint experience

faint pivot
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MAKE ME SLIME OUT THESE ENVY PECCATULUM FOR ENGAGEMENT AND RECREATION

lean fjord
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I don't think it will be that hard

stoic fjord
lean fjord
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nor do i personally really want it to be

fickle crown
faint pivot
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That's fair

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It's simply that Reflectrial has my hopes up

lean fjord
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we already have Reflectrial for being kinda bullshit hard now tbh

faint pivot
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Personally, I want ts to be harder

stoic fjord
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After like 12 tries of reflecterial Ricardo hard I'm excited and terrified for future endgame content

faint pivot
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And it better be cause 25 modules ain't cheap

fickle crown
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Admittedly I feel like it'd be easier to set up a hardmode for the railways (or a bokgak) if people want to do that content again for more rewards

faint pivot
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Oh I'm not gunning for rewards

stoic fjord
fickle crown
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Admittedly I kinda don't touch railway because I can't use less units...

faint pivot
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I'm saying the entertainment rr5 gave me was not comparable to 5 MDEs

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Granted, those didn't exist back then

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But still!

cosmic gorge