Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[cloud wadi]

if upties were diagetic, they'd know for SURE

[fickle crown]

Like Gregor is a last resort weapon and is basically the equivalent of an unexploded nuke

[keen palm]

https://i.imgur.com/WDDECCQ.png

[fickle crown]

That just

Went off at a really fucking bad time

[keen palm]

Uptying is definitely canon

[stoic fjord]

Like, in the game itself?

[cloud wadi]

yes uptying is canon

[eternal berry]

Learned a shocking fact while talking with Sinners done up in W Corp’s identities.
Though they didn’t tell me directly… it seems that the trips on WARP trains which take no more than a few minutes from an outsider’s perspective make their passengers perceive a terribly long amount of time, dissolving their sanity and deforming them beyond recognition once the ride is finally over.

[cloud wadi]

but dante might not be privy to information from an uptie

[dusty sigil]

Does the head really care to dislodge the fingers?

[cloud wadi]

no

[dusty sigil]

They don’t break taboos anymore then wings do

[stoic fjord]

See this is what I think as well

[cloud wadi]

fingers are useful

[eternal berry]

This points to Dante literally just talking with the Sinners while they’re wearing IDs

[stoic fjord]

They don't care

[cloud wadi]

and pay taxes

and are also law abiding citizens

[dusty sigil]

Yah they pay their taxes

[stoic fjord]

I genuinely believe the Head could probably wipe out any faction they wanted with a fraction of their manpower

They just have no reason to

[cloud wadi]

fingers are in fact law abiding citizens to the Head

because the Head is a minarchistic government lmfao

[keen palm]

The projector we use to watch upties and cutscenes is diagetically in Dante's room

[cloud wadi]

hmmm

maybe

[stoic fjord]

...until they do. And then it happens.

[fickle crown]

I think the other thing is that they function as an authority figure in places the head can't or doesn't bother to reach

[stoic fjord]

Beholders exist so my thought is moreso "don't bother to reach"

[fickle crown]

Ironically a finger disappearing would be catastrophic for the city's ecosystem

[eternal berry]

Point is there’s nothing that positively indicates Dante has ever seen the uptie stories. There is evidence that they’ve obtained some information by just speaking with the IDs through various means, but otherwise the uptie stories literally haven’t come up as a subject in Dante’s narration or notes at all

[keen palm]

The Hand of the Backstreets is possibly the biggest reason no one dares to take care of the lawless land that is the Backstreets; no Associations or Wings can touch it, and not even the Head itself can easily interfere. -Sayo's Page, Runia

[cloud wadi]

only actual governmental function that the City actually enforce is protection of property rights through patents, night sweeping, and rules against wanton destruction of property

and tax collecting, which exists almost solely to fund the former

[fickle crown]

And taxes

[keen palm]

So it is canon that the Head can't just fuck with the Fingers whenever they want, but the Fingers abide by the Head rules because it's usually too much trouble to fight against it

[fickle crown]

I think the other thing with the fingers too is that they're what the Head would roughly consider as an uninvited but useful addition to the city

Again, they suck but they keep some amount of order

And that's good enough

[cloud wadi]

i'm sure fingers try creative ways to get around the Head's taboos

[dusty sigil]

Also neat to see in text that the backstreets being as shitty as they are is by design of the fingers

[keen palm]

Everyone does tbf

[dusty sigil]

Forcing people to seek them out for protection

[cloud wadi]

lots of outskirts labs by both wings and fingers it seems

[stoic fjord]

Hrmmmm

I just feel like what we know of the Head doesn't kind of line up with "they can't dislodge them"

To me it maybe reads more as "they play a major role in the City's ecosystem and are too large to easily manipulate in a meaningful way"

[cloud wadi]

head won't interfere with projects in the outskirts unless they feel like it

at which point lol lmao die

[dusty sigil]

Enough that Roland nearly destroyed the south middle mostly by accident

[keen palm]

I don't think he nearly destroyed the Middle, he just tore through their leadership

[stoic fjord]

So I think the Head doesn't necessarily lack the ability, moreso that if they did things would suck and they have no reason to do it anyways

[fickle crown]

Also that reminds me, the Wayfarer Corp guy talking about incomprehensible monstrosities in the corridors is actually horror inducing ngl. Like do those parts lead out into the outskirts or are they an extension of it?

[keen palm]

Ricardo proves that the Middle is still active and willing to operate

[dusty sigil]

I mean that’s after years of rebuilding though

[cloud wadi]

they kept sending increasingly dangerous fighters for revenge against Roland

[dusty sigil]

They were out of the game in the south for a while

[cloud wadi]

and then suddenly oh no half the leadership are dead

[stoic fjord]

Didn't he literally kill half of all the members of the Southern Middle

Or just half the leadership

[cloud wadi]

unclear

[fickle crown]

Roland also haunting the narrative lmao (Ricardo making note about a certain someone's rampage, Heathcliff and Cathy having a brief Roland and Angelica cameo as AU variants, and Rien existing)

[dusty sigil]

You don’t make that big of a gash in the city without leaving scars really

[keen palm]

It's vague

"Decimation" is what was used I think?

[stoic fjord]

Roland and Angelica AU for Heath and Cathy has me convinced we're getting a black silence ID for him

[cloud wadi]

we'll get an intervallo where we'll finally know the truth behind the demiglace sauce

[fickle crown]

Also it is hilarious knowing Garnet ended up becoming the black silence, if only partially and for a brief moment

[stoic fjord]

[dusty sigil]

The sinners will find out off screen and be so disgusted and horrified they vow to never speak of it again

[keen palm]

"I almost had to question myself when I heard that you crushed a good half of the Middle in the South"

[dusty sigil]

To me that does imply it’s all their members

Leadership and grunts included

[fickle crown]

I actually think Ricardo might've been a little brother at the time that recently joined maybe a little after the rampage

[dusty sigil]

Probably

[keen palm]

The Middle of all four cardinal directions still remembers that day—and we will have our vengeance… no matter what… ```

He was a member during it

[stoic fjord]

I wonder who has the most kills in PMoon

[keen palm]

Outis, currently

[dusty sigil]

From what we’ve learned from Heathcardo the middle has these trials you take to become a higher ranked member

So it’s likely he took his trials inbetween Ruina and limbus

And become the defacto Middle leader in U corp

[keen palm]

Nope

[dusty sigil]

Oh?

[keen palm]

He isn't even the biggest sibling in U Corp

He isn't even the Biggest Big Brother

[dusty sigil]

Oh I thought he was?

[keen palm]

He has a Great Sister above him

[cosmic gorge]

We are distracting hin from his journey

[keen palm]

and his role is "Little Big Brother"

[dusty sigil]

I thought the great sister he keeps referencing was in another district

[keen palm]

in Korean

[dusty sigil]

Nvm

[cosmic gorge]

He would be en route to becoming Bigger if heath didnt nick his coupons

[keen palm]

Unless Charlie lied to us

[dusty sigil]

It is really funny to learn that Ricardo could qualify to become a great brother

If he just stopped chasing us around everywhere

[keen palm]

If he stopped he wouldn't qualify for Great Brother

[stoic fjord]

A Sibling does not let go of vengeance

He must settle this first

[dusty sigil]

Also man, I really do wonder if the leader of the middle is a parent or another sibling

[fickle crown]

Homie doesn't care about the rank, it's the message this vengeance sends that needs to be delivered

[dusty sigil]

Because I could see either working really well

[keen palm]

Patriarch or Matriarch seems likely

[dusty sigil]

Either a parent as the leader and patriarch/matriarch of the family, or even bigger sibling since part of the middle’s thing is immaturity

[fickle crown]

Father/Mother in this context would be horrifying

[dusty sigil]

They have a very childish attitude towards the world

If someone hurts you, you hurt them back, harder

[stoic fjord]

Hrmm

Do we know the Capo de Capi's gender

[dusty sigil]

Nope

[fickle crown]

No

[dusty sigil]

We don’t know anything about any of the finger leaders

Besides the title of the thumb’s

[stoic fjord]

We don't even know that any exist outside of the thumb

[fickle crown]

We just know that whoever the Capo de Capi is, they're likely rarely seen (if anyone even survives after seeing them)

[dusty sigil]

I mean, besides the index and maybe pinky, someone’s gotta be running the show from the top down

[fickle crown]

I can't imagine the sheer terror of knowing you'll get pulped for breathing the wrong way in the Capo de Capi's presence

[dusty sigil]

The fingers are United even between the different sects of them

[stoic fjord]

"The Capo de Capi has asked to see you."

"I am so fucked."

But yeah I would fw the Father/Mother of the Middle. That would be neat

[fickle crown]

The fact Valencina lived through her demotion is frankly a fuckign miracle

[cosmic gorge]

The one happy thing in the Mugashu uptie is the dumbsss Messenger getting got

[stoic fjord]

Wait wdym by that

[dusty sigil]

The Capo de Capi has an ever increasing amount of messengers to receive and deliver messages for them, since not a single one has reached the etiquette standards necessary to speak to them for more then a single conversation

[cosmic gorge]

"fuck your prescript. We are throwing you in the Mugablender"

[stoic fjord]

Slight bit of humor among the depression

[fickle crown]

Just like "get father" and proceeding to get stomped

Literally grabbing your dad and telling on the kid that punched you

[stoic fjord]

Bro couldn't have kept his mouth shut until he wasn't standing in front of the concept shredder

[stoic fjord]

That would be scary as fuck

[fickle crown]

Hermes just does a little trolling

[cosmic gorge]

My Dad Could Beat Up Your Dad

The Middle Matriarch's Relic Weapon

la chancla

[fickle crown]

Getting a slipper thrown at you sounds weirdly accurate

[cosmic gorge]

Looook

The Middle already likes stomping and kicking

[stoic fjord]

Though the middle doesn't do discipline in its own ranks

[cosmic gorge]

True

The chancla and the Belt are discipling instruments within the family unit

[keen palm]

If the Index guy gets erased does the prescript get erased too

[cosmic gorge]

Rather than Out

[stoic fjord]

Presumably not?

[cosmic gorge]

Possibly

[stoic fjord]

The prescript is coming from elsewhere and being sent

[fickle crown]

Look, it's possible tbh. The middle does still have some internal enforcement for traitors

And who else do you call when your siblings are acting up

[stoic fjord]

Matthias got the belt 😭

[fickle crown]

If your siblings don't deal with you, you've got something worse coming

[keen palm]

ANYTHING referring to Sora and Ren are gone

[stoic fjord]

True...

[fickle crown]

Also the fact Matthias wrestled two great siblings to death is actually damn impressive. Like. He's a shithead, but I gotta respect him for that absolute feat

[stoic fjord]

And presumably if it was a paper prescript it was shredded

[fickle crown]

Now given he probably did get a bunch of cheap shots in but it's still 2v1

We hear the pager

Hermes was having a little fun

[stoic fjord]

Ahh, okay

[fickle crown]

Being a cheeky little shit

[stoic fjord]

Hermes seems like such a fucking prick compared to the loom 😭

[fickle crown]

Bruh, Hermes as a greek god is known for being a sadistic fuck

[dusty sigil]

Actually chat, y’all think the loom was called Athena? With her association with looms?

[main scaffold]

One of the siblings just claimed Laevateinn too right? Probably had better aptitude for it too

ganransu. ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Now given he probably did get a bunch of cheap shots in but it's still 2v1

[cosmic gorge]

Dantehh please i need you to lock in and break that psychopomp's kneecaps
Do it for her Dantehh
Do it for your gap moe mass murderer danteehh

[dusty sigil]

Yah

Claimed it was theirs due to seniority

[cosmic gorge]

We need an arachne

[dusty sigil]

They were the oldest of the 3 siblings

[unique bane]

Interesting detail about those
Early ones like kurokumo and other launch ids had dialogue like they're walking around the bus
By about canto 4 that seems to stop
I make that make sense because a bunch of early ids were n corp inquisitors so i headcanon that stopped as a safety thing

[fickle crown]

I think it also has to do with y'know

[keen palm]

Dante also mentions that IDs would chat with each other

[fickle crown]

TT Hong Lu just outright threatening to shank Dante to death

[cosmic gorge]

Huuuh

[keen palm]

There's a ton of lore in Dante's notes

[stoic fjord]

Okay hold on

I need like

A thing where I can drop my IDs together to interact and talk

[keen palm]

It's called Tomodachi Life

[stoic fjord]

Make them little chibi versions

Wait

You're right

[fickle crown]

Watch Heathcliff selfcest arc happen

[cosmic gorge]

How does this not result in immediate violence for some ids

[dusty sigil]

Please let Ishmael meet with Harpooner Heathcliff

[stoic fjord]

I assume similarly to how the N Corp IDs work with Dante

Or how you can run tech amalgam IDs with N Corp ones

[fickle crown]

Well the sinners are also still in some control

Which is why they don't just turn and try swinging at Dante

[dusty sigil]

The fanatics especially

[fickle crown]

Thumbsault

Like

No way he wouldn't consider bisecting Dante at least once

[gentle mulch]

IDs are layered on thin enough that they go through every mental gymnastic in the world to think things are Normal and follow orders

[unique bane]

Would be funny if kira had good aptitude for it

[stoic fjord]

"That fellow is wearing red and giving me orders, surely they must be of higher rank than me."
-Caposault

[stoic fjord]

I don't think she does right now

[dusty sigil]

“What a cool hat!”
-N Corp Fanatic Don

[keen palm]

The IDs suffer extreme cognitive dissonance

[stoic fjord]

But I think her arc will develop to her growing as a person and getting that aptitudd

[humble orbit]

they would if layered on any thicker yeah
they're almost uh, in a haze as is

[dusty sigil]

I mean a lot of the IDs don’t need much convincing

[keen palm]

Also

[dusty sigil]

Like, most fixer IDs would be very easy

[keen palm]

hey

[dusty sigil]

They’re just on a job

[keen palm]

https://i.imgur.com/RXCB8Y2.png

[stoic fjord]

The ones that might be difficult are edge cases generally

[keen palm]

Why is this the ONE THING Dante can't remember

[sudden arch]

They turned off their clock head

/s

No idea

[stoic fjord]

This shit feels ominous. Like. This is a chekov's gun still loaded and yet to fire

[stoic fjord]

Their

[sudden arch]

True

[unique bane]

I wonder what happened to dante for them to lose their memory initially when they're immune to every sort of memory affecting thing we've seen so far

[dusty sigil]

Rn my best guess is just that like, the memory wipe procedure itself may have been something so fast and unnoticeable that Dante didn’t even realized it happened?

But like, idk that feels like a copout

[keen palm]

This is a very specific callout

for it to be nothing

[stoic fjord]

Hrm

So, there are characters who have done impressive things, but don't have aura (Matthias.)
Characters who have done impressive things and therefore do (Verg, Bari, Ricky)
Characters who haven't and have no aura (Pilot)

Are there any characters who haven't done much impressive but do have aura regardless

[keen palm]

Matthias definitely has Aura

your brain is just rotted from Agenda posting

[stoic fjord]

He had aura but all of it was lost

Making it a net zero

Thus, no aura

[dusty sigil]

For sure yah

I just, can’t tell

[stoic fjord]

Simple math

[dusty sigil]

Dante’s immunity to having their memory modified is brought up a lot

It’s so weird that there’s this one random exception

[keen palm]

Dante is immune to things being effectively completely erased from existence

[stoic fjord]

Even Arknights isn't explicitly forgotten so much as it becomes fuzzy

[fickle crown]

I wanted to jokingly say Rim

Because he really does just spit some cryptic shit and then he runs off

[stoic fjord]

Started strong.

Lost most of it in 9-44 by doing all that to then lose immediately after

Twining Threads erased what was left

[stoic fjord]

Okay lowk that's a contender. Rim is a good fit for that

Sanson isn't despite his similarities because that mf genuinely just controls people

[stoic fjord]

Like bro didn't even kill any of the sinners with that 😭

Didn't do jack shit to the DD gang

||He caught one body that entire fight and it was his ally||

[fickle crown]

Okay

I will be fair here

Some players have seen Vespa get bent by Matthias

[stoic fjord]

I will concede that the only reason the sinners lived was the K Corp ampules

[cosmic gorge]

Thats my agenda

Kira gets to get with laevetinn

[split beacon]

wait so how the fuck does the Bladeshu MD solo work

[stoic fjord]

Every copy of Limbus is personalized. KJH specifically wanted me to understand Matthias's fraudulence and spread the word.

[uneven canopy]

...aseah?

[stoic fjord]

New gift keeps dead allies dead and keeps her buffed, aiui

[cosmic gorge]

Get her MD gift from any of the canto 9 packs

Feed her her bad parents and unfortunate adoptive siblings

Load up on health regen gifts and self heals

[stoic fjord]

Genuinely though, easiest fight in the canto for me from what I remember

[cosmic gorge]

Replace all s1 with s3

And
Cook

[split beacon]

ok cool

[stoic fjord]

Besides the fodder

[cosmic gorge]

I did 6/50 mdie solo with her

OH

get NDA

Because it gives shield

For MDIE, get the kcorp pack for the ampule gift

The drifting fox gift helps with clashes and the coat gift ensures constant self heals with her aoe attacks

[bronze zephyr]

grah i wanna see the other Liu sections

[sudden arch]

that took me way too many retries and 2 seed of light abilities

oof ow my bones

[tiny cave]

Canto 9 happy ending

[gentle mulch]

this is the kind of shit another protagonist would have a dream sequence of and go "No... this isnt right... This isn't how things turned out................... i'm sorry but................................................. i have to go back."
"but youre happy here!"
"[sheds a single tragic tear that signifies the internal struggle of this decision]"

||like fuck even the bowl cut guy that got blunted in half is here||

[keen palm]

Pablo :)

[cloud wadi]

LCA captain is still dead in a ditch

[gentle mulch]

yeah theres no saving her 😔 i fucking wish

[karmic escarp]

how sweet, this single mother is taking her kid to work~

[cosmic gorge]

this would be funnier if you conspicuously slotted an Evade on mugashu-

[karmic escarp]

oh is that what triggers it?

[cosmic gorge]

yep

[karmic escarp]

i see

thanks for the tip
i havent actually sat down and read her kit in full

[gentle mulch]

since she is effectively immortal around a HoS identity you really only use evades in the context of a team fight if:

1. you just want free poise
2. youre bored and want a HoS ID to get mulched into nonexistence

[ebon forge]

Or in MD solos

[karmic escarp]

and i thought FAShu was a bonus attack merchant
HOShu isnt a merchant shes the whole fucking factory

[bronze zephyr]

Oh 4 days until next ID reveal

Predicting Matthias Outis and RR6 but who knows

[cloud wadi]

Would you like a fun fact

[karmic escarp]

absolutely

[cloud wadi]

4MF counts free attacks as skills for its passive

[karmic escarp]

i did notice that!

[cloud wadi]

And Ryoshu has like

All the ids with free attacks

[bronze zephyr]

4mf?

[karmic escarp]

4th match

[cloud wadi]

Match girl

[bronze zephyr]

Ah

[cloud wadi]

The one with “every four attack kills the enemy” passive

[karmic escarp]

ok now that im done killing ten billion middle boys for exp tickets time to actually read what HOShu's kit does

[cloud wadi]

Use evasion skills with other HOS ids present to eat them and become as gods

Other ids require cute little conceits such as ramp up and husbanding of resources

Hoshu just starts eating her allies and becomes god

[karmic escarp]

shes kind of awesome like that

[cosmic gorge]

gonna shard renclair for the express purpose of feeding him to her

[karmic escarp]

'hm did someone go missing from the team? ah well, it's probably fine'
(suspiciously HoS shaped holes where Yi Sang, Faust, Don Quixote, Hong Lu, Ishmael, and Sinclair once were, but are no longer)

[gentle mulch]

Contempt Awe with Vergilhide must be just so much ego resource generation

[karmic escarp]

it is

alright
i think im finally gonna do an MDIE15 'solo' for the first time ever
are there any guides for what gifts to look for? i know you want stuff like unhatched embers and the mansion one so you can eat deaths

[lean fjord]

Manor box is anti stagger

[tiny cave]

Revival gifts (embers, investigator badge, for you who love the city), manor box for anti stagger, ashen constellation

You usually wanna gift search for investigator badge and ashen constellation, cos they’re keywordless and easy to miss

[lean fjord]

Keywordless gifts my beloathed

[split beacon]

you NEED to do Code Purple for solos

[karmic escarp]

wotsat

[cloud wadi]

Are you doing it with HoSshu

If so you’ll want the exclusive gift for her

It makes it so that any HoS ids killed

Stay dead PERMANENTLY

except for herself

So that she can start every battle with a bunch of buffs on herself

[karmic escarp]

:OOOOO

yeah im doing it with HOShu

[cloud wadi]

Then yeah grab that ego gift

And then just kill all the HoS ids

[humble orbit]

evade use or the sinner getting staggered/nearing death
if you've killed a nursefather specifically, not just an apprentice, she can use it twice in a turn with one evade.

[mint cliff]

the funny thing is, we're still missing some nursefather ids, so HoSshu is only gonna get stronger

[tiny cave]

She does have the quotes for the other two NF IDs on the wiki (datamined)

I'm sick and tired of you and your Palermitan technique—to hell with you!
For Rodion on using S1-2

Be warned, it's gonna be hot. Hot as hell!

For Outis

And the hunt comes to a close!
Rodion’s coin on S3-2

Bullseye!
Outis coin on S3-2

[sudden arch]

so turns out when pinkyshu has kiled all of the HoS IDs she gains the Tiansha Star tag

[wise sable]

"I can't bust it down guys, i don't know how to and it's embarrassin-"

hug from mommy rodya

Sinclair:

[tiny cave]

I think you could bust out sick dance moves if a 6’6 Russian woman gave you a hug to do so

[cloud wadi]

When she kills any

The moment she pulls out the arayashiki is the point of no return

[dusty sigil]

Man, with the reveal in Ryoshu’s uptie story that Pinky titles are tied to their weapons

And the Star of the Pinky describing the Tiansha star as if it was a known phenomenon

I wonder if Ryōshū was not the first to fully unlock the Arayashiki?

[atomic steeple]

How many of out sinners have singularity level powers at this point?

[stoic fjord]

None of them.

[atomic steeple]

Yi sang is a specialist in the mirror tech, explicitly compared to a singularity, sinclair has the sign, heathcliff has his necromancy and dimensional powers,

[stoic fjord]

Actually wait

Yi Sang

[atomic steeple]

Ryoshu was called a singularity too

[stoic fjord]

Ohhhh right Heathcliff and Sinclair

[dusty sigil]

The sign and Heathcliff’s necromancy aren’t singularities though

[stoic fjord]

Fr?

[dusty sigil]

We don’t know what the sign is

[stoic fjord]

They said singularity tier

Which i still think only puts Yi Sang there

[atomic steeple]

Yeah the sign was called singularity tier

[dusty sigil]

Oh okay

[stoic fjord]

Okay Sinclair and Yi Sang

[atomic steeple]

ryoshu too

when the project was being explained

[stoic fjord]

Rodion ate J Corp's singularity

[stoic fjord]

This is why she can't lose a game of chance

[atomic steeple]

it was said to be akin to a singularity, with the fingers as the shareholders

[stoic fjord]

Is "singularity" a signifier of anything besides exclusivity or

[atomic steeple]

well

it seems like it means some high tier technology/effect which can be used. Which the wings then copyright

multiple things have been called singularity tier or singularities

[stoic fjord]

Ah yeah fair

Man I need to brush up on lore

I feel like a larper

[atomic steeple]

So now limbus company seems to have multiple singularity tier people

besides also building a tree from golden boughs

[stoic fjord]

Dante, Yi Sang, Ryoshu, Sinclair

[atomic steeple]

It is very interesting what they are building up to

[stoic fjord]

Cut apple.

Apple from the golden tree...

[atomic steeple]

A corpo can have multiple, of course. Like warp corp and rrr corp
But limbus has a lot, while these examples have 2

THough limbus seems more focused on the tree, tbh. Well the tree and dante

[stoic fjord]

more important than the others for their goals

[vagrant dove]

Possibly also ||Gregor depending on what Hermann intended to lie under all the "wrappings"||

[mortal garnet]

I mean, the dude could fight a color while holding back, he def is close to these guys in raw power

[stoic fjord]

||And also that was a half-formed version of his first major "unwrapping"||

Fuck "close" if any more potential is realized this mf gonna be level 200

[unique bane]

Iirc dante says something like "it wasn't supposed to happen yet" so i think it was planned in some way

[gentle mulch]

please for the love of angela never cook again never realize your potential

[unique bane]

https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1tdctxi/nursefather_yisang_vs_rien_and_what_it_means_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[cosmic gorge]

i just realized that riensang was telling her the story of icarus

which could mean Something

[mortal garnet]

Aleph gregor in canto 11

[atomic steeple]

Man, when will we get good shi team

[vagrant dove]

Yi Sang is someone associated with wings and flying

[cosmic gorge]

oh i was thinking uhh

Outis

[mortal garnet]

Small bird yi sang theory

[cosmic gorge]

and greek myth

and Carmen the Sunshine

[mortal garnet]

WRONG! Gregor at full potential will be the kamen rider of Limbus company and will save everyone!

[cosmic gorge]

Kamen Rider Samsa was something joel cooked before i think?

[vagrant dove]

I tend to see it more in terms of the Index Nursefather telling her a parable about himself, mainly because of those allusions see: Canto 4 ||Yi Sang's ego manifestation cutscene is him rebuilding his own broken wings to allow him to fly again||, which is something the Index Nursefather will never do

||where our Yi Sang rose into the sky and succeeded, Index Nursefather Yi Sang did not.||

The Index Nursefather is also of course, ||burned thanks to Arayashiki, and refers often to the waves and the sea in his dialogue||

Icarus fell, scorched by the Sun, back into the sea

[stoic fjord]

His name also means "of the ocean" and "nothing" at the same time

Which i think is fitting

Flew too close to the sun, and has returned to the ocean.

To nothing. A mistake, forgotten and erased

[vagrant dove]

As a sidenote, good lord the uptie story for HOS Ryoshu is depressing

Like I was expecting it to be bad, given the nature of the id

[stoic fjord]

The fact she genuinely had what could be considered an almost decent childhood in our world compared to the mirror world is insane

Like. They were awful. But also what the fuck how do the sinner nursefathers make the nursefathers we have look alright

[tiny cave]

They don’t have the positive qualities of the actual nursefathers

Rien had hope that the tale wouldn’t end in tragedy, Yi Sang actually just wants to die

Matthias was a manchild but still spoiled Ryoshu like a child with too much money, Outis is just cold and pragmatic

Etc.

[dusty sigil]

When is the next Walp?

[cloud wadi]

I mean presumably someone has to have mastered its use before for the effect of its mastery to be known

Right at the tail end of this season

Is the next walp

I’m kinda expecting it’s the Shi

Since this would be the Fourth library walpurgisnacht

[dusty sigil]

Thanks

[dusty sigil]

Also I don’t think so

We don’t seem to get Association IDs from Ruina walps

Even if they showed up in Ruina

[cloud wadi]

Our set of data is like…. Four?

3?

I don’t think it’s a good enough data set for future predictor

[dusty sigil]

I mean yah but like

Idk it would feel weird to get a Walp dedicated to an association

When we get association IDs pretty frequently anyway

Like, there’s nothing stopping next week’s ID from being a south Shi ID

[cloud wadi]

Frequently… like once every season at this point

[dusty sigil]

Eh, semi frequently

[cloud wadi]

Yeah alright maybe

[dusty sigil]

Though idk what we’ll get

[cloud wadi]

List of candidates at urban nightmare tier or low SotC tier are not great

Already got the index proselyte

[dusty sigil]

Yah

[cloud wadi]

Thumb south maybe

[dusty sigil]

Maybe more general receptions?

[cloud wadi]

Most enemies at urban nightmare are inhuman

And then there’s smiling faces but that’s not exactly gonna be a big seller

[glad fable]

Geez, I thought we were supposed to be getting them more often

[cloud wadi]

We already had a walpurgisnacht where we got aromashu and hornet sault like a month ago

[glad fable]

Two months ago akshually 🤓☝️

[cloud wadi]

Time is a construct

[atomic steeple]

Yujin ryoshu firing 4 boundaries of death per turn

[dusty sigil]

Calm down Herbert

[gentle mulch]

Yujinshu: For every allied Shi member defeated in the Encounter, gain 1 minimum and maximum extra attacks per turn (Maximum of 4-44 extra attacks)

sometimes i forget shi faust exists

[tired canyon]

hello there mr

oh thats not good for you

[mortal garnet]

+5250%????

[hybrid lynx]

vaporized in an instant

[tired canyon]

md60 solo complete

i am in love with this woman

and this is WITOUTH mathoutis,rodioncina or lucio

[mortal garnet]

Welcome back fell bullet
Theres any chance that they nerf her?

[stoic fjord]

Imagining Araya and HoS Ryoshu meeting

[stoic fjord]

After Maost, I kinda doubt it

https://youtu.be/YSoaLDwHHaY

[stoic fjord]

I also feel like they probably meant for her to be terrifying like this

Because in her ideal team comp, at max capacity, she would have 2 teammates still there max, and her S1 still isn't that insane

Like, she's probably gonna be the strongest ID

[mortal garnet]

Strongest so far

[stoic fjord]

But I don't think she's gonna be outright gamebreaking to the extent of like, Talisman Sinclair for all of rupture

Ryoshu isn't completely changing poise, or burn, or bleed

And as much as Maost deserves a nerf, she's not quite as warping as pre-nerf Talisman afaik

[stoic fjord]

That's what i meant, yeah

[split beacon]

Also, HoSshu has a crippling flaw

Which is at max power she’s incredibly deadly but will get owned by red coins; she ain’t got that much HP and if there’s only one of her left she has to tank all the damage dealt by every enemy left

[worthy haven]

just did cons 10 thread and 10 lux and holy she rips

[split beacon]

She does have the power to just melt most enemies in the game though

[worthy haven]

doing a 3-3 like every 3 turns and then every 2 turns a 999 karmic great trico is so hype

I still am not super certain if I wanna run this team with her. I am kidna sad you prob want calisto hong lu most of the time instead of running full stop duo but i could defo see maybe trying the duo out with 2 more nursefathers

[tired canyon]

fucking

mathoutis passive:convert red coin into green coin

[vagrant dove]

Lei heng watching the first green coin id pull up to 8-30

[ebon forge]

ids that need to exist:

• hongler modern burn
• heath not-heishou burn (luciocliff pleaseeeeeeeeee)
• modern non-mancha bleed outism
• non-mancha bleed don
• pure bleed sinclair
• heishou meursault
• more index.
• sinking meursault
• modern sinking sinclair
• non-heishou gregor poise
• modern outis poise
• modern bl sinclair
• modern cinq sinclair
• modern non-heishou poise rodya
• pure poise ishy
• pure poise don
• charge sinclair
• r gregor
• not-r meursault (charge)
• middle outis
• middle faust
• middle hong lu
• middle rodya

there are so damn many archetypes that need maybe 1-2 more ids to be "full"

also only 22 ids left before i have every id now

[gentle mulch]

can we get good shi IDs pls

[lean fjord]

not until Yujin, sorry

[tired canyon]

It'd too late for it but I want good n corp ids

[lean fjord]

next canto surely

[tired canyon]

Let kromer Faust come back

[tiny cave]

Don’t like your odds of getting pure status anything these days

What was the last mono status ID we got? T Corp Outis?

[worthy haven]

Isn't renclair mono

[tired canyon]

Also I would like to mention

With mathoutis and rodicina,she is gonna have a flat 30% damage reduction against everything

[tiny cave]

Also Shi Don and Shi Ish are pure poise

[ebon forge]

renclair is poise/bleed

[worthy haven]

Ah right

[ebon forge]

dont exist smh

[lean fjord]

Hybrid is the new status quo at this point definitely

and that's good tbh

[ebon forge]

when i say pure i mean like, in the sense of their main status being like, 90% of their kit

[lean fjord]

team building feels like it has gotten a lot more open with dual keyword teams

[split beacon]

hybrid status is good civilisation

[ebon forge]

renclair is like that, he does have surprisingly good bleed but his kit is 90% about the poise

[tiny cave]

Also feel like we’re not gonna get non-mancha bleed Don until next season at least just cos it overlaps with her bad end ID too much

And seasonal highlights are supposed to be big, unique and splashy

Like I doubt Heath is gonna get another sinking ID for a while either

[ebon forge]

big pain

i want a non-mancha bleed / non-manor heath so i can multi-spec team types

i like to have full faction teams (PLEASE 5 bleed/sinking ids PLEASE)

i'm getting close to completing my W / R corp charge team

just need more standard id releases

[lean fjord]

do y'all think N Corp next canto will still be Bleed?

[stoic fjord]

My guess is tremor but depending on faction we might not get all bleed

[tired canyon]

Tremor/bleed

[dusty sigil]

Probably imo

Ahab is already bleed focused

And Nelly, Sonya and Aseah seem very likely to have bleed worked into their kits somehow

Hell if Tremor is the Yurodivy thing Sonya might give us our third Hemorrhage ID

[stoic fjord]

https://youtu.be/sLIJO9wGt2A

[keen palm]

This is literally how doing refracterial with the middle team feels

When Heath hits Ricardo which forces a counter which procs a counter

[dusty sigil]

sick

[keen palm]

https://tenor.com/view/kuze-kuze-yakuza-yakuza-0-kuze-qte-kuze-last-qte-gif-12268881232292490313

[split beacon]

heathcliff hits ricardo, ricardo counters, heathcliff counters in response to the counter, ricardo counters in response to that too and then heathcliff uses a free S1 on ricardo in response to that

it's peak

[gentle mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-6282994170305987753

just hoarding all the counters

[split beacon]

you know

some people might think it's a plot hole that they never just like

found and reattached Aeng-Du's arms

but the solution to this conundrum is quite obvious

the Gluttonous Arm Gobbler stole them.

[gentle mulch]

give her another sword

ohhh

[stoic fjord]

Do we think Aeng-du is getting robot arms

[split beacon]

Vespa's true form will be WhatsApp Vespa

the 7 green coins

[stoic fjord]

Or maybe E.G.O gear that will replace her arms... that would be cool

[gentle mulch]

"A salsu never lets go of her blade" okay so let's get you new arms because we can't take them off the workshop sord

[keen palm]

I mean she can get her old arms back

[stoic fjord]

Her and Kim both with E.G.O

[stoic fjord]

Also true, K Corp ampule

[split beacon]

you don't go hunting Vespas without being prepared to get your arms chomped between them jaws

-Moses, probably

seriously, between Rodion and Vespa I think that Limbus Company could clean up one of those Daguanyuan feasts

the honestly quite incredible creature and the gluttonous gobbler

[gentle mulch]

this greedy fucking wasp

[keen palm]

Ricardo lost his arm and just got a new one

[lean fjord]

Vespa's snack greed is ridiculous

[split beacon]

Vespa ate that one too

[gentle mulch]

Vespa feeling a bit Peckish towards some sweepers

[split beacon]

the sweepers fear Vespa Crabro

[atomic steeple]

Can't believe devs thought her gimmick was worth it

Hm. Charge poise shi ids
To do the build up before assassination

[bronze zephyr]

Vespa ate Aeng Du’s arms while no one was looking

Oh yeah we didn’t see aeng du this intervallo did we

[wintry fiber]

nope

[bronze zephyr]

We will next intervallo since that’s the lcd one

[stoic fjord]

hm

buy myself a pull package as a late birthday gift... or just keep grinding

[keen palm]

Spend that money on the Ish Nendroid pre-order instead

[stoic fjord]

truthnuke

[stoic fjord]

Twining Threads spoilers I suppose

[bronze zephyr]

LOLLLL

[stoic fjord]

Kira watching blade ryoshu genuinely INSTANTLY KILL the Nursefather IDs without issue

[fickle crown]

Gotta get a late abortion in

[fickle crown]

Tbh I think she'd be more interesting getting something like FS Heath's ability

Like as an off the field passive she could stick arrows into people and on the fourth shot force a retreat so she can slot in

[stoic fjord]

agreed tbh

[fickle crown]

I do kinda wish that was how she was done because it'd actually emphasize why she has to hop into the field

That and y'know

Actually interesting swap gameplay

[stoic fjord]

it's been 5 and a half months of season 7

and I still haven't hit pass level 900

[bronze zephyr]

Oh apparently aftwr HoS Ryo uses arayashiki on the nursefathers her flavor text starts being erased

[worthy haven]

ye

[atomic steeple]

Yeah guess tehy were feeling experimental
But 4 turns of waiting is a lot. It gotta be a damn good shot

[bronze zephyr]

Fullstop Heathcliff waits 4 turns and can shoot up the enemy before using his nuke

[main scaffold]

Maybe if they added another 4 somewhere she would be good

Pandora(She/her)(aka WaxMask) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Yeah guess tehy were feeling experimental
But 4 turns of waiting is a lot. It gotta be a damn good s…

[stoic fjord]

make the damage multiplier for waiting 44444%

[main scaffold]

IWRC, Shi Faust is used in mirror dungeon speedruns, but it's mostly because she's really good at staggering Knight of Despair on turn 2

[stoic fjord]

buying a pull pack as a birthday treat to myself

this shall not happen again

nvm

I forgot my steam account is in debt due to the chargebacks

so I can't

wait
fuck

that means I won't be able to get the next pass

wait no I have mobile

[atomic steeple]

Shi faust is cool tho

[stoic fjord]

ok. pull pack as a treat to hopefully get Ryoshu. I will not spend after this beyond passes.

[stoic fjord]

top tier facade

fr fr

[atomic steeple]

The shi may be fucked up, but they are cool

[stoic fjord]

okay now I know for sure it's never happening again because I did not get Bladeshu

I can never spend money again

[bronze zephyr]

I wish I could go back in time and I unspend the money I’ve spent on non limbus gachas

[stoic fjord]

I got two E.G.Os but no bladeshu and thus must never spend or pull again

[stoic fjord]

I wish I could do this for Clash Royale

[bronze zephyr]

I mean in total it’s like $50 but

[stoic fjord]

to then spend on Limbus

/j /j /j

[gentle mulch]

ohh clash royale

i have been tempted to spend on supercell games at one point but i am just allergic to most competitive games to a point where whether or not im good at them they just fall off of being fun rather quickly

[bronze zephyr]

Yeah same

[main scaffold]

How the hell does that happen

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) I forgot my steam account is in debt due to the chargebacks

[stoic fjord]

I reported fraudulent purchases to my bank because those did in fact happen

and also to steam

and my bank got to it first

[tired canyon]

what the fu-

WHAT THE FUCK

WHERE IS SHE FROM?????

[atomic steeple]

Oh yeah, late happy birthday @stoic fjord

[tiny cave]

World of Tingtang

[lean fjord]

wait is this another change, or just the reverting of the previous one they did?

[atomic steeple]

World number 69 420

[stray sleet]

World of N corp

[atomic steeple]

Shi assoc world. They get interested in her skill at killing, so they jump ryoshu then found family her
"You are being rescued, please do no resist"

[bronze zephyr]

I dunno if she and Pinkyclair can exist in the same world, I’d have to read her story again

Dunno how long between temporal entanglement and becoming a black hole after killing everyone was

But i don’t see why the NFs would all take apprentices if Ryoshu was completed as muga

She’s in a weird state but the final intent is that she’s in the same world so
Shrug

Maybe they’ll redo her story

[atomic steeple]

I now want this au

[split beacon]

Ryoshu, daughter of Yujin

[crimson spindle]

i don't think it really needs changing

[split beacon]

on the basis that since Syndicates do office raids, turnabout is fair play and the Shi Association can steal the Hand of the Backstreets' personal assassin

[crimson spindle]

the point of the story is that ryoshu is completely fucked up mentally and everything she says shouldn't be taken as having happened

or not happened

Some Shit Happened

everybody died

[split beacon]

She doesn't even remember Sinclair anymore because Arayashiki took her most valuable memories first

[cosmic gorge]

Oh rashomon

Ryoshomon

[bronze zephyr]

Mmm right I guess she’s an incredibly unreliable narrator

[crimson spindle]

the entire point of muga ryoshu is that she is the shattered wailing ghost of a human being

[bronze zephyr]

Excited for the three ID stories that’ll come w the rest of the hos IDs

[crimson spindle]

it's possible she escaped for a time

if she did, she wouldn't remember

those are good memories

so away they have gone

[unique bane]

i think what happened is they took apprentices while she was trapped in the safe
but that doesn't explain why she took on renclair in that case

[keen palm]

There was a theory on the Reddit that this Ryoshu is actually a clone and not Shiomi's biological daughter

[crimson spindle]

my theory is that everything happened as normal, including the raid, except something went wrong with it

and ryoshu went muga during the raid and killed everyone involved

destroying her own memories of that hopeful time first

[keen palm]

Ultimately I'm not too concerned with the timeline tbh

[crimson spindle]

yeah exactly what went wrong isn't really the point

[bronze zephyr]

Fair

[cosmic gorge]

So ive been doing some lux cavs

Tried steadily feeding ryo HoS members

And i thought shed have like, +2 slots

But she didnt

[bronze zephyr]

According to some ppl her slots are bugged but idk

[cosmic gorge]

Dang

I mean her slots work in md

[keen palm]

I think she specifically only gets slots from nursefathers, and not apprentices?

Oh

If there are no Identities left to Substitute or Return, Blade of the House of Spiders Ryōshū gains +1 Skill Slot for every 3 The House of Spiders allies that are defeated (max 3 times)

[crimson spindle]

actually know how you can tell this is the worst possible version

no ciggie

[cosmic gorge]

Yeah

[stoic fjord]

I was going to say no SANGRIA

she sees no beauty or art in the world

[crimson spindle]

also yes

all the little habits that make her her are gone

[cosmic gorge]

Peculiar, i fulfilled that condition but no extra slots in lux cav

[stoic fjord]

she is a void of a person

[fickle crown]

Bro's shirt is soaked through too

[cosmic gorge]

Out in the club straight up malking it

And by it i mean haha, my k||avian||

[split beacon]

enough ingenious Madness Network ideas

I shall tolerate them no longer

[atomic steeple]

So, shi ids
South:
Don only speeds it up
Heathcliff is killing himself over time
Ishmael gets a lot of count and heals herself on s3 crit
East:
Faust can charge 4 turns to fire an arrow. Everyone only makes her wait one

[split beacon]

shi east will get a second ID whose gimmick is giving Shi Faust her aim down mechanic as an assist

trust the plan

[bronze zephyr]

frfr

please pm make shi fau good

[split beacon]

anyways bladeshu may be tragic but pm did make the ultimate fanfiction AU plothook of "character who desperately needs to be saved from her evil home life" huh

[atomic steeple]

Yujin: I'm so tired
House of spiders
Yujin: This blade of mine glows with an awesome power!

[split beacon]

look

syndicates raid fixer offices all the time

turnabout is fair play

[crimson spindle]

yeah he's called KJH

[split beacon]

did you know that the apprentices at the House of Spiders are free? you can just take them. I have six apprentices

[split beacon]

I mean listen it's ok to be a little self indulgent sometimes

all good authors do it now and then

[cosmic gorge]

mood

[unique bane]

where can i find into about md routing on extreme?

[cosmic gorge]

routing and rewards or just routing?

[unique bane]

first one

i guess like a general guide

[buoyant stream]

[cosmic gorge]

hmm

in my experience unlike MD and MDH its very random
like, you can get any of the MDH packs at floor 11 with enough rng

compared to MD where you can only get hells chicken on floor 2

[buoyant stream]

The specific routing depends on what team you're running tbh

[atomic steeple]

Are seven assoc ids good?

[buoyant stream]

not really, no

[humble orbit]

hong lu has a modern burn id its called ringlu :)

[tiny cave]

Index Don is mainly a poise ID as well

[humble orbit]

there's like 2 ways you can do a sinking team, butterfly sinking & stack sinking
butterfly is "im going to kill this bitch immidiately" and i'd say index don is better here
stack sinking is "i'm going to blow your fucking head off when im done building up" and i'd say heishou don is better here

both work though

hilariously i dont think index sang has a role in any sinking teams really?

butterfly needs solemn lament too much and stack sinking woul;d prefer spicebush to engage in nuclear warfare

[stoic fjord]

Index Yi Sang fits into a generic sinking team by making up for the lost DPS himself

[ebon forge]

what.

[stoic fjord]

Unfortunately, they are not particularly good. They're neat! And they have seen some cool usage. But they are not very good

[humble orbit]

he does 5 burn on his skill 3-2 :) that is a burn id :)

[humble orbit]

fair enough, i tend to use him like that when i'm not running butterfly

[ebon forge]

:|

[humble orbit]

burn id :) you got a burn hong lu be happy :)

[ebon forge]

:|

[main scaffold]

:|

[humble orbit]

burn :) 5 burn 0 potency :) burn :)

also he has no burn ego :)

just use lord of hongyuan with youclair obviously :) then you get to do 3 burn potency every turn :) burn id :)

burn :) burn id :)

[cosmic gorge]

perpetually facaded Mao Fau with tea shop detectives AU faust is my seven id

[keen palm]

https://youtu.be/Ldio88E0VO0?list=RDLdio88E0VO0

[cosmic gorge]

we love this genre

still need to find Goofy Goober Rock but cut up like a Limbus boss

also Bye Bye Babylon for any BIONICLEheads out there

[buoyant stream]

unfortunately the technically best way to play burn involves spamming Lord Lu conter to keep swapping in and out the rooster heishou

[cosmic gorge]

Burnlu come Canto 10 trust (its gonna be a fucked up Ncorp flamethrower user like if hunterhong and firefist greg had a prosthetics-hating baby)

[tiny cave]

2nd Smoke War Hero Hong Lu

[keen palm]

https://www.tumblr.com/zetsu-b0/816576834659663872/rings?source=share

Zetsu-b0

rings

-# #project moon #limbus company #yi sang #faust #fascia #meursault #hong lu #rodion #outis #lcb

Tumblr · May 14, 2026, 8:45 AM

[unique bane]

my muga ryoshu solo run is now no longer a solo run
screw the cursed gift that staggers teammates

[stoic fjord]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Mqi82BoHNE4

[unique bane]

fuuuuuck i reset the store and right as i did i noticed lunar memory was in the shop

[cosmic gorge]

Noooo

[uneven canopy]

https://youtu.be/bUY7iDPoQZY Spoilers up to canto 9.5

[gentle mulch]

damn she really did erase so much of herself that the devs forgot multiple times

what juice is she on rn

[tired canyon]

Blood

It's the only liquid on THE WASTELAND

[gentle mulch]

theres just no blood left she ate it all

[tired canyon]

She needed something to wash down all the house of spiders ids

[split beacon]

wait hold up

so what world is Bladeshu from now

did they revert the revert and make her from a new world again or is she back to the HoS world

[crimson spindle]

she's back in HoS

[tired canyon]

so they just

gave us 10 pulls for "sorry we messed up the lore a little bit"

and then "nvm"

[humble orbit]

thats really really funny

so that means in the house of spiders mirror world all our sinners are just straight up assholes

[split beacon]

at last, dad unity against the worst dad of them all

[gentle mulch]

heartbreaking: the worst person you know just killed the worst person you know

[tiny cave]

Where Matthias

[humble orbit]

its so fucking funny that riensang is somehow more of a piece of shit than rien

[split beacon]

Yi Sang wasn't larping as him so it's not as funny

[tiny cave]

I mean Dad Quixote is in this picture

Unless you’re a T Corp Time Traveller who knows of the Dad Yi Sang ID

[split beacon]

perhaps

idk it's definitely funnier to have Rien of all people freaking out like that, Matthias is always getting pissed and doing revenge so there's no bite to it

[tiny cave]

This isn’t just “all the shit fathers in this series aghast at Yi Sang”?

No Sinclair’s dad or Mr. Earnshaw I guess

[keen palm]

I mean both of them were relatively decent parents

[tiny cave]

Iunno about that one considering the whole Hindley and Heathcliff situation

[keen palm]

I mean yes but I think "I brought you into a situation that led to trauma while doing my best to protect you from it" and "Somewhat negligent of your unvoiced apprehensions" is less comparable to

"Beat you daily"

[bronze zephyr]

yeah earnshaw was decent enough iirc

[cosmic gorge]

Riensang probably fed mugashu rotted potatoes

you know its darkly funny that Heathcliff doesnt get any nursefather ID bc if he did he would just be Book Accurate Heathcliff Post-Timeskip

[tiny cave]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oFh5MBrwPIk

New MD speedrun just dropped

[elder wigeon]

Canto 9 spoilers, I think

[ebon forge]

wordle porn

[cosmic gorge]

oh wow i ccan just get the mugashu solo ego gift at md start

[atomic steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPrHkQTkyMI
Moses, having a melancholy moment
Then, moses says: like comment and subscribe

[vagrant dove]

Re earnshaw, there is that line from the Hindley observation log that I think cements him as a pretty awful parent

Even then, Hindley was always looking for a chance to torture me, but… Mr. Earnshaw would always raise his cane and drag Hindley to his room.

I think the log in general is pretty clear about his faults

[bronze zephyr]

Aah icic

[tired canyon]

i wonder

nvm i just rememebered ishmael exists

[unique bane]

he was good to heathcliff but not hindley

[vagrant dove]

100%, yeah

Affection given to one child but not the other

[gentle mulch]

shes just killing people

ryoshu oh my god

[stoic fjord]

How it feels watching everyone else run Blade Ryoshu in MD

[bronze zephyr]

Four more days

[stoic fjord]

I understand why the updates are the time they are but also fuuuuck I wish they could be on weekends

[dusty sigil]

Tiansha just means “Slay the Heavens” right?

[stoic fjord]

Yeah, I believe so

[neat cedar]

More accurately

Heaven Killing Star

[vagrant dove]

Looking at the 13000 lunacy I have next to the 400 Ryoshu shards in my inventory

[neat cedar]

or soemthing along those lines

[bronze zephyr]

Join me in the eternal walp save

[vagrant dove]

The hardest choices (waiting a week) require the strongest wills

[bronze zephyr]

Stay strong

[vagrant dove]

I will be, I want the Binah walp

My goatess

But it is tempting I will admit

[gentle mulch]

gather your shards
she really is That Girl

her fucking auto attack is mulching people in MD

why does she have an auto attack??? (rhetorical)

[atomic steeple]

INtervallo spoilers meme
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0N0odRcpuQ||

[vagrant dove]

Ryoshu is the queen of autoattacks

[stoic fjord]

I already have 200

I'm well on my way there

[bronze zephyr]

I have about 200 I think but I also have a ton of crates

So

[vagrant dove]

Speaking of crate, building a crate stockpile for walp as well

Since I already have stuff stored for the nf ids

I think the only id I don't have is AEDD gregor this season

[bronze zephyr]

He’s really good

[vagrant dove]

Yeah I'm gonna try to get him with the ticket since I am a Gregor and Hohenheim fan and I've heard he makes charge better

[crimson spindle]

incidentally the 108 hero associated wwith tiansha, for the record

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Kui_(Water_Margin)

THE BLACK WHIRLWIND

[stoic fjord]

WAIT

ANOTHER 10 PULL APOLOGY?

nvm

[lean fjord]

oh hey, it's that guy

[stoic fjord]

I just claimed it before the announcement? I think

[lean fjord]

had no idea Jade Empire just took that character from elsewhere

[crimson spindle]

a bunch of jade empire is just stealing shit

[atomic steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riw62WNsvUc

[tired canyon]

on this walpurgis:the first aleph ego

MOSB ryoshu

[cloud wadi]

거미집의 검

검집의 검

Yep

It’s a pun lmao

Sword of the Spider’s House
And

sword of the scabbard respectively

Both pronounced largely the same way

Difference in spelling is a single stroke in fact

[gentle mulch]

even as she is erased she is making puns

[dusty sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ2-UtuiSHY

[vagrant dove]

oh ive seen this

very good overview of sins and their relations to characters

oh incidentally part 2 of this is out now

[vagrant dove]

I do wish the video had a little bit more discussion of Valencina's bravado especially in regards to her Smoke War service (the sheer cope this woman runs on is one of the most interesting parts of her character) but it is touched on enough imo

[stoic fjord]

Did any of the nursefathers know the purpose of the house of spiders

[fluid whale]

Surely Rien did, given his reaction to Muga

Probable that the others did too, they just were meant to be sword teachers first and foremost (for the thumb, middle, and ring, at least)

[vagrant dove]

Valencina explicitly doesn't

[stoic fjord]

I figured

[vagrant dove]

I think it was just Rien honestly, he seems to be the guy vaguely in charge, as it were

[vagrant dove]

Ah wrong reply, I meant to reply to the post below lmao

[vagrant dove]

Like ||he's the one Limbus contacts||

Who presumably relays the sitch to the other NFs

[stoic fjord]

ohhhh yeah true

[vagrant dove]

Ah no Callisto seems to have known, just checked his passives

||Soon, the masterpiece shall be completed—the raison d'être of the House of Spiders.
The Golden Boughs are... interesting objet, to be sure, but the fact remains that they are not essential to the perfection of the masterpiece.
I doubt if it was truly necessary to seize them and risk making an enemy out of Limbus Company... although I do admit these sloppy dance steps did, in the end, come together to form a rather acceptable finale.
In any case, this series of circumstances we find ourselves in was Rien's desire—or more precisely, the pleasure of the so-called god he puts his faith in.
One must wonder, however... Is it a blessing or a curse to be so compellingly loved by such a thing referred to as "god"? Fuhuhu...||

Does support Rien being the Guy In Charge though

[bronze zephyr]

waow

[stoic fjord]

I feel like they could have been yaoi

[vagrant dove]

Truke!

Another toxic yaoi has hit limbus company

[cosmic gorge]

Ive seen some riensang x callilu so yeah

[atomic steeple]

Kinkymation loves ishmael

[gentle mulch]

Last season's WRETCHED turn 1 defense skill vs this season's BLESSED SPEND 5 TURNS KILLING YOUR ALLIES FOR FUN

[vagrant dove]

that "our blessed [thing] vs their barbarous [thing]" meme

the one with the two identical landscapes, except this time it's true (heishou vs hos team)

[atomic steeple]

She went wild for rodion

[vagrant dove]

yeah I saw that lmao

[stoic fjord]

😨

[vagrant dove]

she has good character design takes! It was generally quite a fun stream

[gentle mulch]

?

[crimson spindle]

she got really upset that rodion was shipped with gregor because she didn't want to draw his bug hand

[gentle mulch]

😭

[vagrant dove]

issues with cockroaches apparently

[gentle mulch]

like the IDs are so good in their respective factions AND it's worth sliming them all out for the thrill of the game

[vagrant dove]

yeah

[cosmic gorge]

Put any of his ids over him
Replaces the buh hand

Nuh hand

Buf hand

Bug had

Hand

Motherfucker

[vagrant dove]

we've all been there

sometimes these fucking keyboards like

actually want you dead

[cosmic gorge]

My old phone has a smaller screen but this ones keyboard continues to fuck with me

[vagrant dove]

she did end up fucking with Firefist and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

LobCorp Big Bird ego id

which were th choices

just not base gregor I believe

[cosmic gorge]

tormented nothing to lose guys powered by spite and aura

[vagrant dove]

the sinners are such aurafarmers

[stoic fjord]

https://youtu.be/CQZNXAJTCbA

https://youtu.be/1SsR1Bl_yTI

[crimson spindle]

the other incredible moment: her editor pranking her by picking mariachi sinclair

[vagrant dove]

oh yeah

[cosmic gorge]

Oh pfft

Aida/mariachiclair's s3 where they briefly don a glowing muerte mask is sick as hell though

[atomic steeple]

Kinkymation talking about sinclair hitting the white boy Mexican ultra instinct

flow state

[gentle mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/rhett-link-rhett-and-link-link-neil-good-mythical-morning-gif-2809543191386294435

Mariachi Sinclair feels like this to me

[atomic steeple]

Outism claimed her

[vagrant dove]

N-Corp coming in like the chuds to Jacksfilm's fajita's tweet

[cosmic gorge]

Which Outis

[vagrant dove]

Barber Outis and Udjat Outis

[cosmic gorge]

Goated designs

[stoic fjord]

Ain't it kinda interesting how both of ||Ryoshu's kids kind of have time-related powers? Araya being all the different versions of herself and Sinclair turning into a future version of himself||

[cosmic gorge]

That reminds me

What was base sinclair's s3

I swear it was envy

Which could mean Something

[atomic steeple]

too bad she didn't see the ominous horse in the background

[cosmic gorge]

(consider, mugashu is purple)

[atomic steeple]

Yes, beacuse of his insecurity

[vagrant dove]

Ravaging Cut, Envy

[cosmic gorge]

Although no envy skills

Envy as related to spacetime

[atomic steeple]

Kinkymation: There's no menocontinue, there's only menopause

[vagrant dove]

Can't wait for the purple tear to show up and genuinely rend spacetime so you have to sub in your backline sinners

[atomic steeple]

"The womb is dead"

Can't believe no one said outis is Greek for nobody

[tired canyon]

Wait does the existence of bladeshu mean that Dante can rewind arayashiki wounds

[fickle crown]

Yeah

Dante can do a lot tbh

[gentle mulch]

literally a dante upscale

so every time dante worries about "uh but we might not be able to reverse it" from now on

is tinged by "okay but the arayashiki tho"

[eternal berry]

There's conceptual logic with how Arayashiki works that might not apply to other cases, ultimately. And of course it's always possible this Mirror-d Arayashiki ceasing to exist when the ID is unequipped handles some of the problem

[bronze zephyr]

🤔

[stoic fjord]

Wasn't there something in Canto 5 about Dante maybe not being able to undo full pallidification

[bronze zephyr]

yeah

it was smth ishmael was really freaked out about

but the golden bough seems to be able to counteract pallidification so

[stoic fjord]

Tbh with the level of power we've seen from the clock at this point i feel like there's the possibility the rewind/contract might actually get stronger as they collect boughs, to some capacity? It'd make sense but it's mostly vibes

[eternal berry]

Maybe, even though it kind of acts like an infection, the pallidification membrane might not be conceptually "part" of the person it's affecting and doesn't cause any "damage" to rewind
But ultimately that was speculation, so that's just my musings

[stoic fjord]

Seeing the Arknights event, I would posit that if you killed a sinner before they could be fully transformed, the clock could probably fully restore them

[vagrant dove]

continuing to craft an asshole thumb cowboy in the spirit of lei heng

i love the id maker

[vagrant dove]

also yeah the arknights event establishes that Dante can restore a lot

[stoic fjord]

I should do more with my Big Sister of the Middle OC

[eternal berry]

Ish does mention that those pallidified aren't "transformed" and retain "their habits, their skills...", their minds are just gone

[stoic fjord]

And make more PMoon kits in general

[eternal berry]

I guess if you're willing to think super morbidly you could just like... mincemeat a Pallidified Sinner to rip off all the membrane and then rewind them

You'd get a physically intact Sinner out of that, I suppose

[stoic fjord]

Seeing as Dante can rewind from erasure now, i would suggest completely vaporizing them and then rewinding

[vagrant dove]

i love making horrible finger officers

[stoic fjord]

Real

I should make a cowgirl thumb Capo who dual wields revolvers or smth

With like. Big bayonet blades on them so she has a sort of hybrid style

[vagrant dove]

full skill name list

[stoic fjord]

Peak

[stoic fjord]

Do we know what thumb north and thumb west look like at all

Cuz I lowk wanna make a Capo on some ULTRAKILL shit

[vagrant dove]

I don't believe so

[gentle mulch]

ohhh you know what i wanna see

[eternal berry]

Ah, just a note that I forgot: the Indigo Elder also just straight-up says turning the clock won't work with the Whale

[gentle mulch]

the fucking killer bean bullet ricochet

[eternal berry]

Obviously he's not privy to the full specifics, but he's probably more authoritative on the subject and he knows of the more esoteric stuff in the City

[bronze zephyr]

oh dang hm

interestin

[gentle mulch]

thumb capo throws a bunch of bullets and shoots one to cause a chain reaction

[eternal berry]

Dunno what to make of that

But yeah, I imagine given the weird conceptual nature of Dante's abilities there's also probably weird conceptual stuff that could happen to the Sinners that can't be rewound under the logic of turning the clock... whatever that logic exactly is

[fluid whale]

I mean, pallidification doesn't seem to be an injury in the way that decay ampules caused an injury

The Pequod sailors lived through it inside the actual Whale itself

Pallid units also have SP which is usually the marker of sentience

In effect, it's just overwriting the flesh of sinner number X with pallid membrane, which then grows as it parasitizes and causes you to become alike to the whale

At least by my understanding

[fickle crown]

Late but nah, just have them fucking gut you with a knife

[vagrant dove]

changed some names for various reasons

and some other stuff

[eternal berry]

That was what I thought above, it's not enough of an alteration to the actual body, it just grows on you. You're... nominally healthy

[vagrant dove]

but yeah shithead thumb member

(please nuke his ass vespa)

[stoic fjord]

But revolvers are cool :(

[vagrant dove]

this one as I think I have said before uses a revolver rifle (with sword bayonet)

[stoic fjord]

As unrealistic as it is, it'd be aura

[vagrant dove]

that last skill costs like

a fuckton of ahn. six bullets.

[fickle crown]

Also consider a lever action rifle instead

[stoic fjord]

Him watching Molar Ishmael evade every single shot knowing full well the sottocapo is going to have his arm for this

[stoic fjord]

Oh true

[keen palm]

I'm deciding West Thumb are more Cowboy

[stoic fjord]

Do we know where Valencina came from

[vagrant dove]

I don't believe so

[vagrant dove]

he's cooked

characterwise he's the "cultured" sort of cowboy- like someone who puts on the air of civility and cordiality and proper talkin'
until he's not talking to an equal or someone he's been told to kill, in which case it becomes sickly false-politeness

[fickle crown]

PoV: N-Corp Heathcliff, Red Eyes Closed Ryoshu, LCCB Ishmael, and Regret Faust pull up to nuke your coin power and regular power into the floor

[fickle crown]

Possibly a subsection of the south branch based on her participation in the smoke war

Also holy shit

[cosmic gorge]

Mugashu shreds dad quixote yea

The ramp up gives her the slots she needs

[atomic steeple]

I love how green the 7 assoc images are

[vagrant dove]

Anyway gn chat!

I am going to dream (of electric sheep, possibly)

[atomic steeple]

You know, I love association ids

[bronze zephyr]

real

i long for more devyat

[keen palm]

One maybe can assume V Corp due to Virgilus' familiarity

[stoic fjord]

Coping hard for the Xiao Gregor and Lowell Rodion Walp in 2029

[bronze zephyr]

hm i wonder what the main Id faction will be next canto, N Corp again??

[stoic fjord]

My guess is a new N Corp faction

[bronze zephyr]

hm

[lean fjord]

I concur with that, yeah

could also be more Inquisitors though, since we get another Kromer

[cosmic gorge]

I hope we get a new evil armored guy aesthetic if we doing ncorp again

Like conquistadors

[bronze zephyr]

god an N Corp Inquisitor upscale would be insane

Im hoping for like
a Wuthering Heights Butler situation where its a faction within N Corp but not N Corp itself yk

[stoic fjord]

Why do I keep seeing wordle in 3 or less guesses

[quaint cliff]

correct me if I’m wrong but I think it started as a parody of some guy’s humiliation fetish blog

[cosmic gorge]

What

[quaint cliff]

I THINK IT STARTED AS A PARODY OF SOME GUY’S HUMULIATION FETISH BLOG.

[cosmic gorge]

I am staring into the aperture

Dare i peer further

[quaint cliff]

I dunno I think it’s a relatively recent meme

[cosmic gorge]

Ah, theyre putting hentai tropes on main again

[quaint cliff]

It is a well-known scientific fact that one’s performance in Wordle directly correlates with one’s performance in bed

[bronze zephyr]

Two days until Matthias Outis is totally teased chat 🙏

[tiny cave]

That’s why I, who always gets wordles on the first word, am so sought after

[ebon forge]

great.

im now at the point of where sharding ids is basically just to complete the collection

no more teambuilding potential outside of tremor

and maybe a peed / bloise team

devyat sinclair, wsault, and kk rodya not pictured

sharding ryo next week

[atomic steeple]

Tremor bleed n corp

[atomic steeple]

I want seven assoc (with good count), hana, três (sorry about accent, worried about messing too much with my phone suggestions)

[cosmic gorge]

Seven Assoc glowup that inflicts fragile for every defense level down/every 5 or so stacks or rupture the enemy gets