Because like- what's the point?
#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.
vagrant dove
We have a game where Ayin goes through a completed arc and wraps up his storyline
That's lobcorp
stoic fjord
genuinely convinced that Dante is Ayin came from larpers or something
keen palm
It makes sense given the current information we have
The only information we have on Dante's previous self is they were an asshole big shot with ties to Lobotomy corporation
Which is like
Ayin is the only known character to fit that
vagrant dove
Textually yes- you can fit Ayin in the "big shot" category, but I think a lot of theories kind of miss the "why" for the "what"
stoic fjord
....wait, when do we get info about them having ties to Lob Corp?
did I forget something in the prologue
keen palm
Its an assumption of being a key part of Limbus' plan regarding the golden boughs being mostly stolen from Lob corp tech and staff
stoic fjord
that feels like flawed reasoning but fair
keen palm
Also we know Dante seems to have ties to Carmen if nothing else
Due to Lament's lyrics assumedly being about them
crimson spindle
The burning question is if its not ayin (and I don't think it is, for one he has no reason or method to return from the light) who is it
cloud wadi
Technically I think now we have confirmation that Dante doesn’t have access to uptie stories
The menu dialogues are diagetic
But not upties
Carmen is addressing an unknown third party with that
crimson spindle
And my immediate thought is Mirror Ayin from a timeline where the plan failed
stoic fjord
the mirror worlds being the source of Dante themselves would be insane
crimson spindle
Specifically he could be one of the 3 alternates you meet at the end of lobcorp
split beacon
Watch it be Adam
cloud wadi
It’s probably just an unknown person who works at limbus company mirror world observation station
keen palm
Technically I think now we have confirmation that Dante doesn’t have access to u...
I think considering the diagetics of everything, they are literally on Dante's PDA in the menu
And I am fairly certain Xishmael is Carmen talking directly to Dante
cosmic gorge
Happy mothers day (belated to everyone in my timezone)
atomic steeple
Getting a good mdh run
Comboed my bleed gifts with charge abd sinking stuff that improve clashing
cosmic gorge
If you got cost to spare, get downpour, nixie divergence, the frog eye ego and the tremor band
Those help with constantly depowering enemies
karmic escarp
theres also reverberation (tremor, tier II) that inflicts paralysis
great for +coin fights (not that bad in -coin fights ime)
stoic fjord
ngl you probably want some sinking support anyways in MDE so it doesn't change much
atomic steeple
Kinda hard to get all the tremor stuff, specially since I only have random tremor infliction from ring outis
I have meursault inflicting sinking plus the random poinitlist sinking
ANd I got ego gifts that distribute charge
just need to be sure I have or will get a charge gift that feeds charge to the team the whole fight, so the nightvision gift can trigger for more offense increase
But I'm done for today
Gonna do floors 4 and 5 later
the setup is perfect for a few infinity floors, but unsure about my time this week
stoic fjord
Kinda hard to get all the tremor stuff, specially since I only have random tremo...
the T4 E.G.O gift pretty much does it for you
karmic escarp
yeah downpour does an auto-burst at turn end and also inflicts a lot of tremor pot/count iirc
stoic fjord
kinda funny to me that some of the worst IDs in game have some of the coolest weapons or vibes
Rosespanner Gregor...
cosmic gorge
@stoic fjord oh btw, a strat for refract ricky
if you ever need to use counter on anything other than the evades (which offsets them), use counter on his attacks that inflict paralyze and not inflict paralyze next turn
the paralyze inflicted from the attack will be on the counter and not on the next one you slot next round, which can spiral into losing clashes if left unchecked
stoic fjord
<@909903609930604634> oh btw, a strat for refract ricky
if you ever need to use...
I been doing this but thank you
on the topic of refracterial ricky
I've been seeing community criticism of how hard two specific teams get buffed
and while fair i also see people genuinely treating it like it's impossible to win with any other team
which. I've literally been using sinking for phase 2 and been doing solidly so you can probably guess how I feel about that
I do think the reflecterials are way too heavily weighted to specific teams rn but I also think people genuinely just see the buffs and go "bad game design" before ever trying to play
the Heishou genuinely get fucking mulched. the buffs are probably needed for them to even be featured at all this fight
gentle mulch
i just saw an 8 turn phase 1 with sinking so
stoic fjord
the Heishou genuinely get fucking mulched. the buffs are probably needed for the...
tbh the fact Zilu and Ricardo were fighting on equal grounds and it was effectively a tie tells me that Zilu is genuinely cracked
stoic fjord
i just saw an 8 turn phase 1 with sinking so
I saw 6 turn phase 1 with normal bleed
gentle mulch
the Heishou genuinely get fucking mulched. the buffs are probably needed for the...
also yeah even with the buffs every odd turn has a heishou getting staggered to 50 hp and then is 1. useless and 2. dead weight
stoic fjord
essentially I think people are genuinely stupid even if I agree with the base argument being presented
stoic fjord
also yeah even with the buffs every odd turn has a heishou getting staggered to ...
even Maost struggles to stay afloat
which is INSANE
gentle mulch
tbh i would rather have the heishous not have damage resistance for this fight funnily enough. because them hanging on half of a windpipe of life means that i cant use the swapinator tactics i love
gentle mulch
which is INSANE
KJH's personal hatred for maost coming out
stoic fjord
tbh i would rather have the heishous not have damage resistance for this fight f...
real tbh
if they died faster it might genuinely be an easier team to use
keen palm
tbh the fact Zilu and Ricardo were fighting on equal grounds and it was effectiv...
Zilu is explicitly stronger than Ricardo
And Ricardo just left the fight because Zilu absconded with Shi Yihuan
gentle mulch
"H-Corp faction members that die give xyz to ally units, and also Life From Death is buffed"
stoic fjord
Zilu is explicitly stronger than Ricardo
that as well
I think i'm finally going insane
gentle mulch
wait i have fell bullet yi sang youre so right
stoic fjord
wait i have fell bullet yi sang youre so right
that's a facade
stoic fjord
I mean the fact that I plan to use WCorp Heath and Seven Assoc. Ryo for the phase 2
gentle mulch
a
stoic fjord
on my heishou team
gentle mulch
are those facades..
stoic fjord
because i'm just losing it
stoic fjord
are those facades..
no, those are the actual units
keen palm
Does any ID have Aggro + Dodge
gentle mulch
i dont know what youre cooking...
stoic fjord
the facades I have are FS Heath, FS Hong Lu, Twinhook Gregor, NSang
gentle mulch
Does any ID have Aggro + Dodge
Cinq Outis
keen palm
That's hilarious
stoic fjord
i dont know what youre cooking...
removing a blunt weak, adding blunt resist while keeping rupture with WCliff while also avoiding stagger
gentle mulch
removing a blunt weak, adding blunt resist while keeping rupture with WCliff whi...
ohhh
stoic fjord
also adding slash weakness to ricardo with the S3 on Seven ryo, ideally
she just needs to get a billion S2s and never get 5%ed
HOLY SHIT
MY FUCKASS STRAT
IT'S KIND OF WORKING
karmic escarp
idle thought du jour
the meursault animatic set to bohemian rhapsody that i dreamed about a while ago is gonna go so hard after canto x drops
dusty sigil
Been farming the sweepers and running into a kinda annoying thing with ring Rodion
Due to her conditionals being based off the targeted enemy
stoic fjord
IT'S KIND OF WORKING
nevermind.
dusty sigil
In mass battles she’s often getting her enhanced clashable counter and skill 3, only to then lose them
Because the enemy she was targeted died and she switched to someone who doesn’t have as many debuffs
faint pivot
Tbf it isn't as all-consuming as Envy, the most you'll want EGOs aside is 4
stoic fjord
yeah, true
keen palm
faint pivot
Isn't the only way she gains Charge potency her s3?
stoic fjord
...thrill MD run using Don's evade?
faint pivot
I thought that having her s2 consume charge twice did the trick but she did not switch forms
stoic fjord
fair
faint pivot
https://www.tumblr.com/voytekio/816279139852189696/small-quixote?source=share
Small quixote?
I think that's missing an er /j
mortal garnet
when the bus eats people everybody laughs
when the blonde vampire need to drink a little of blood, everybody jumps her
we live in a society
faint pivot
I like how people only point out that the bus eats people and not the other nonsense like nuevo fabric or the puppets
The City runs on a lot of unalive stuff
stoic fjord
I like how people only point out that the bus eats people and not the other nons...
also the bus only ate people as an initial energy measure
I'm like 99% sure we just use normal enkephalin reserves now
which is still people but the bus isn't eating them alive anymore
uneven canopy
faint pivot
No idea who these characters are but the art's awesome
uneven canopy
im sure this was posted here like 5 months ago
cosmic gorge
Cinq Outis
ragebaiter odysseus
gentle mulch
and they never tried an evade tank again
(intentionally)
stoic fjord
I would like just 1 more Cinq ID
cosmic gorge
Because the enemy she was targeted died and she switched to someone who doesn’t ...
thats the pain of dealing with like
unfocused fights with non md team comps that do not consistently fling 6+ negative conditions on everybody
stoic fjord
so I can run 5 cinq ID poise team
oh also I...
cut down my clear time in the reflecterial by 1 turn
from 29 to 28.
I... am going to lose it
cosmic gorge
I would like just 1 more Cinq ID
cinq east ishmael
keen palm
No idea who these characters are but the art's awesome
I have no idea who they are either tbh
stoic fjord
and they never tried an evade tank again
(intentionally)
they have to do it for Valencina Rodion
cosmic gorge
yeap
you among all of us wouldn't know who these guys are
stoic fjord
I refuse to believe they wouldn't give us one last solo goddess
mortal garnet
so I can run 5 cinq ID poise team
which cinq don do you use? the good one or the bad one
gentle mulch
what if
they dont give rodion the eye of odin because shes not special
and we get a clashable counter instead
stoic fjord
which cinq don do you use? the good one or the bad one
I only have east
mortal garnet
they dont give rodion the eye of odin because shes not special
bro is predicting the future
stoic fjord
my plan though is to get all of the Cinq IDs, and wait for a 5th
stoic fjord
they dont give rodion the eye of odin because shes not special
ok lowk
Rodion but without the eye of Odin
while still being as strong as Valencina and as accomplished
would be fucking cinema
gentle mulch
PLEASE STOP GIVING US CLASHABLE COUNTERS
cosmic gorge
i have an evil thought
main scaffoldBOT
Kodion, but again
Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️
stoic fjord
would be fucking cinema
no gimmick
no relics
just pure fucking skill and technique
cosmic gorge
we won't get matthoutis or valencrodya because mugashu already erased them:
stoic fjord
it'd be aura
mortal garnet
I only have east
the good one
uneven canopy
cinq east ishmael
ONCE MORE, AMERICAN WOMAN
main scaffoldBOT
she somehow gets the first clashable evade in the game
ICEOUT Hardware (Ping 👍) ↩️
stoic fjord
the good one
right but I want South
crimson spindle
we still need to find out exactly what idiot thing valencia did to get kicked out
stoic fjord
she somehow gets the first clashable evade in the game
hear me out
Counter evade
I think Carmen brought up this idea once
basically, it can only evade a limited amount of times before stopping, but each enemy it evades against, it does a counter against
mortal garnet
we still need to find out exactly what idiot thing valencia did to get kicked ou...
delayed taxes
cosmic gorge
ONCE MORE, AMERICAN WOMAN
she needs some kind of s-corp/korean swordswoman adjacent ID so she has korean id rep (with her having xichmael and sayomael already done)
stoic fjord
basically, it can only evade a limited amount of times before stopping, but each...
which, as a side note, we've kind of seen this with Big Ricky as well. you can trigger his counter off of his evade. it makes me want to explode.
uneven canopy
COMPLETE THE EAST ASIAN TRIFECTA
stoic fjord
counter dice
I think that's what the idea was based off of
cosmic gorge
also
Fullstop Hong's Facade over Callilu with an s3 is funny
he jumps up and down before he shoots
stoic fjord
in general I want to see Valencina Rodion be goated
mortal garnet
ricardocliff before farmwatch id 😔 (btw i know why they will never give us farmwatch)
uneven canopy
dodge tank rodion
stoic fjord
I just know
the instant Valencina Rodion drops
someone is going to have her duel Lei Heng
universal constant
mortal garnet
the instant Valencina Rodion drops
valencia outis
stoic fjord
all new IDs must solo Lei Heng
mortal garnet
valencina*
mortal garnet
dang it
uneven canopy
the stage is set
stoic fjord
and Ishmael confirmed Matthias Outis
all of the nursefathers are kind of accounted for
I say kind of because Pinky is. weird
mortal garnet
so theres a non 0% chance that we get kaizer gregor this season🪳 🪳 🪳 🪳 🪳
stoic fjord
the only thing left to be a wildcard is the Thumb Apprentice
which, I'm all in on Heathcliff
uneven canopy
there's no way meursault is getting another thumb id
mortal garnet
which, I'm all in on Heathcliff
could be meurs or gregor, since iirc they dont have any house of spiders ID
stoic fjord
I also think generally Heathcliff fits Lucio most
keen palm
Did Gregor get an ID this season?
stoic fjord
Did Gregor get an ID this season?
2
keen palm
Oh right
stoic fjord
both hohenheim
mortal garnet
Did Gregor get an ID this season?
the centipede and the lamp
mortal garnet
there's no way meursault is getting another thumb id
"collect my thumbs"
uneven canopy
the hohemheim brothers
mortal garnet
this fuckass game refuses do give me caposault, now i have to wait the whole season to shard him
stoic fjord
I also think generally Heathcliff fits Lucio most
also, because Rodion didn't get a Hindley ID, the mirrors are creating a different mirror world where she abuses Heathcliff for some reason
mortal garnet
also, because Rodion didn't get a Hindley ID, the mirrors are creating a differe...
Wuthering heights book personality
keen palm
also, because Rodion didn't get a Hindley ID, the mirrors are creating a differe...
- Drunk
-Rich
-Spiteful
-Physically Abusive of Heathcliff
Close enough, welcome back Hindley
mortal garnet
if heath gets the lucio id, does that mean that rodion is his biological mother? genuine question
mortal garnet
idk why but this made me go "Hindley vs. Valencina"
hindley wins
stoic fjord
if heath gets the lucio id, does that mean that rodion is his biological mother?...
what the fuck are you talking about
mortal garnet
idk why but something made me think that valencina was his mother
mortal garnet
im just dumb
stoic fjord
adoptive, vaguely
mortal garnet
larp or something idk
stoic fjord
he was taken off the backstreets
karmic escarp
lucio was explicitly a backstreet stray valencina picked up to raise into a 'textbook' for ryoshu
stoic fjord
has anyone else we've seen so far had silver hair without being old
Lucio's hair seems vaguely noteworthy to me but idk why
uneven canopy
through limbus co or all the PJM
stoic fjord
through limbus co or all the PJM
all of PJM
mortal garnet
all of PJM
thats "silver" enough?
stoic fjord
thats "silver" enough?
See this is kind of what I mean
I feel like super light hair like this if you're not old is noteworthy
mortal garnet
See this is kind of what I mean
I feel like super light hair like this if you'r...
kromer lol
gentle mulch
Faust
mortal garnet
every catherine
faint pivot
Sonya no?
Technically Albina but also not really
...hah
Benjamin
This motherfucker I swear-
Hokma pushes my buttons weird and I'm not sure how I feel about it
mortal garnet
philip in a way
faint pivot
Benji is spiritually old though isnt he
Before the boxing? I dunno, he seemed pretty spirited to me
uneven canopy
that man greyed at the speed of light
faint pivot
Then again we only had little bits & pieces of that so...
mortal garnet
His is a close shade to Charon's
philip is charon lost twin brother
faint pivot
that man greyed at the speed of light
I'd expect as much from the handler of ||HQ's TimeTrack and the employee adoption/alteration system||
uneven canopy
eternal stress
faint pivot
philip is charon lost twin brother
Other way around, Garnet was Philip's lost twin sister
...was Charon Garnet
I forgot which gem she was
uneven canopy
yes
uneven canopy
Garnet's the other kid
faint pivot
Mhm
Y'know
I'm a little shaky about little miss mythological here
After our brush-in with Hermes
And canto 11's foreshadowing
mortal garnet
charon have grey hair
she was lapis, a blue rock
do you know who else have blue related things and grey hair
charon daughter of the blue reverberation
faint pivot
Wrong color chief
She's the daughter of the red gaze
And I think Verg would take issue with that statement were he in earshot
/lh ofc
mortal garnet
secretly red gaze had a child with the blue, but she never told verg
and then verg think that he adopted a random child
thats why both have grey skin
on a serious note, why verg have grey-ish skin
bro looks dead
tiny cave
charon have grey hair
she was lapis, a blue rock
do you know who else have blue ...
Charon daughter of the blue man group
Which two though?
Sinclair and Demian
mortal garnet
Which two though?
the guy and the butterfly inside his head
faint pivot
Sinclair and Demian
She's their daughter from the mirror world that's this one but where things happen a good 35 years earlier
tiny cave
She’s their daughter from the future 2nd Smoke War
Where they had a violent breakup because they took different sides
She’s named Lapis because of the blue smoke
faint pivot
ACS upscale
uneven canopy
on a serious note, why verg have grey-ish skin
carry over of older PJM stuff i think
faint pivot
7 mang? I only need two bitch
uneven canopy
some people just grey
mortal garnet
"wings war" fans when one of the wings secretly build a nuke as their "singularity"
stoic fjord
on a serious note, why verg have grey-ish skin
He was probably one of the first characters, and seeing as Limbus started on LoR's codebase similar art wouldn't surprise me
mortal garnet
some people just grey
non-human grey people that the head dont care about theory
stoic fjord
He was probably one of the first characters, and seeing as Limbus started on LoR...
Especially with earlier enemies being kind of gray as well
faint pivot
"wings war" fans when one of the wings secretly build a nuke as their "singulari...
Wing War fans when they turn tech used for every-day living into weapons of amss destruction
The washing machine company making a-10s except it's every company
mortal garnet
Wing War fans when they turn tech used for every-day living into weapons of amss...
toaster bombs
stoic fjord
Also it makes Vergilius look more tired I think
mortal garnet
Also it makes Vergilius look more tired I think
yes
stoic fjord
Also it makes Vergilius look more tired I think
Almost... dead.
mortal garnet
vergilius is tires as if he's the guy clashing with tons of red coins on a daily basis >:(
mortal garnet
Almost... dead.
one could say that the dead have some sort of...red gaze in their eyes
faint pivot
vergilius is tires as if he's the guy clashing with tons of red coins on a daily...
In his defense I bet I'd be tired if I had to police the bus and care for Charon at the same time
And, well
mortal garnet
In his defense I bet I'd be tired if I had to police the bus and care for Charon...
tru
faint pivot
Contend with the ethics of Charon dying to bring back Lapis at the end of his contract
He's certainly traded one person's life for another before
But like
Damn, he's stewing in this one
stoic fjord
Almost... dead.
Reminder that Vergilius's ||strongest skill so far is Funeral for a Dead Bloodfiend|| and Charon is the name of the ferryman of the underworld
faint pivot
Reminder that Vergilius's ||strongest skill so far is Funeral for a Dead Bloodfi...
I can't help but wonder if this refraction of Lapis is predominated by a god of the city playing dumb
mortal garnet
Reminder that Vergilius's ||strongest skill so far is Funeral for a Dead Bloodfi...
there's one bloodfiend in LOR, right? maybe he knew her in a way or another?
faint pivot
At this point of the plot anything is possible but I can't help and wrack my brain for possibilities
faint pivot
there's one bloodfiend in LOR, right? maybe he knew her in a way or another?
Could be but Elena's not the only significant Bloodfiend in the plot
And well
She wasn't eyeless
keen palm
Elena also wasnt a 1st gen
faint pivot
I suppose one could lop off body parts and leave the excess intact but I imagine Verg's friend was on their deathbed when they gave passed on the gaze
keen palm
Which we know for a fact that Vergilus' eyes belonged to one
faint pivot
Elena also wasnt a 1st gen
Forgot this tbh
A shame Verg's contract made him steer clear of La Manchaland
mortal garnet
I suppose one could lop off body parts and leave the excess intact but I imagine...
so is the same bloodfiend don mentions on the intervallo?
keen palm
Nope
faint pivot
so is the same bloodfiend don mentions on the intervallo?
Who? I'm speculating btw
faint pivot
God this city is so vast
When I first got into the franchise I thought there were other cities
split beacon
also yeah even with the buffs every odd turn has a heishou getting staggered to ...
The gimmick for Ambuscade is that you just unload damage at Ricardo and keep Hong Lord alive no matter what tbh
faint pivot
LobCorp didn't help clarify that no, districts are larger than cities
uneven canopy
we are Not getting the full scope of The City in this game's lifetime
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we are Not getting the full scope of The City in this game's lifetime
10 years is a long time, I think they'd manage to at least touch on every district at least once
And if not
It's not like KJH is planning to end it all with Limbus
There's a non-zero chance it's the last game taking place in the City when all's said and done but
There's definitely still interest in making other games that take place in it
mortal garnet
Who? I'm speculating btw
nah, hes a second kindred
the elder we dont know
neither the second
but i was talking about this
mortal garnet
There's a non-zero chance it's the last *game* taking place in the City when all...
hack n slash project moon game when
uneven canopy
stars above, please
faint pivot
hack n slash project moon game when
Iirc a 3rd person one where each chapter has you play as different Cityfolk was pondered
Mentioned something like, in ch. ? you're a Devyat fixer and have this decently-sized level to roam & do stuff in, then in the next chapter you're a Shi assoc. or a Thumber
But like, tis only in the ideation stage I think, and only something KJH mentioned offhandedly
mortal garnet
Iirc a 3rd person one where each chapter has you play as different Cityfolk was ...
"Focus, D"
"Oh its you faust, i see that verg stuck you into this"
split beacon
The 3D City ARPG would go insane
stoic fjord
LobCorp didn't help clarify that no, districts are larger than cities
Thankfully Canto 8 helped clarify that 1 district (admittedly a higher population one) holds about... 6 billion people? Iirc
faint pivot
"Focus, D"
"Oh its you faust, i see that verg stuck you into this"
Yesod quit freaking out it's day 42 we need to lock in
faint pivot
Thankfully Canto 8 helped clarify that 1 district (admittedly a higher populatio...
That's Hongyuan, yep
mortal garnet
Mentioned something like, in ch. ? you're a Devyat fixer and have this decently-...
imo a 3rd person game where you change characters that much wouldn't be something i see PM doing
faint pivot
Woefully dense
split beacon
Whats crazy is that Hongyuan compresses all its Backstreets plus its Nest into one giant block
mortal garnet
Thankfully Canto 8 helped clarify that 1 district (admittedly a higher populatio...
i missed that, when this is said?
faint pivot
imo a 3rd person game where you change characters that much wouldn't be somethin...
Oh not like Genshin or something, iirc you're locked into that chapter's protag until the next one
stoic fjord
i missed that, when this is said?
I forgor
faint pivot
i missed that, when this is said?
I recall around the start of Nocturnal Sweeping
stoic fjord
I just know it's either canto 8 or nocturnal sweeping
stoic fjord
Even if every other district only had a sixth of the population
Hell, 1/12th of the population
faint pivot
Like it's Depicted, but 2/3's of Earth's present population in Hongyuan is...sheesh
stoic fjord
It'd be fucking insane amounts of people still
mortal garnet
Whats crazy is that Hongyuan compresses all its Backstreets plus its Nest into o...
these crazy PM fans created district H in real life
stoic fjord
Like it's Depicted, but 2/3's of Earth's present population in Hongyuan is...she...
More 3/4ths
So even more than that
uneven canopy
in an area that packed
mortal garnet
Oh not like Genshin or something, iirc you're locked into that chapter's protag ...
like dmc5?
faint pivot
like dmc5?
I imagine yea
stoic fjord
Vergilius is from V Corp right
faint pivot
Or 4, lmao
faint pivot
Vergilius is from V Corp right
Yes
He started it /jk
Stigma workshop is from there too
mortal garnet
Vergilius is V from dmc5
stoic fjord
Vergilius is from V Corp right
The fact he was friends with a First Kindred makes me genuinely so convinced the Elders of V Corp have to be Bloodfiends or otherwise related
faint pivot
(Folks who made Philip's sword, and presumably supplied the rest of Dawn office)
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The fact he was friends with a First Kindred makes me genuinely so convinced the...
Considering B Corp (home of Beholders) just has a Bloodfiend clan Chilling there I don't think this has to be the case
tiny cave
B stands for Bloodfiend not Beholder
mortal garnet
The fact he was friends with a First Kindred makes me genuinely so convinced the...
they do? Bari was father quixote friend even tho he was the only first kindred in that place
district C is for Charon
faint pivot
they do? Bari was father quixote friend even tho he was the only first kindred i...
Is speculation I believe
faint pivot
Farmwatch Outis 😔
stoic fjord
Considering B Corp (home of Beholders) just has a Bloodfiend clan Chilling there...
Yeah fair
stoic fjord
they do? Bari was father quixote friend even tho he was the only first kindred i...
...what?
mortal garnet
farmwatch gregor so he can get another science guy id
stoic fjord
Vent was wondering where you got the idea from
I'm like 99% sure the leaders of District V are referred to as elders or otherwise in a way that made me suspicious
I swear this was something discussed here prior
mortal garnet
plot twist, is just canto 8 again with a bunch of old people who cant die of old age
tiny cave
Nah we know nothing about E Corp /j
E Corp is for Estrogen
faint pivot
We leave Hongyuan in 2027 after Spring Cultivation bokgak only to greet it again come canto 11's war of the wings
mortal garnet
the worst thing abt canto 8 is that they refused to give lord lu shin and mang
if kong qiu can why i dont
he's cheating
faint pivot
Side note, Lamp Gregor doing what Big Bird's narrative puports by policing the forest is...on-brand, at minimum
stoic fjord
We leave Hongyuan in 2027 after Spring Cultivation bokgak only to greet it again...
It'd be so fucking funny if we just kept going back to H Corp over and over
stoic fjord
the worst thing abt canto 8 is that they refused to give lord lu shin and mang
i...
Okay do you mean this as a joke or seriously
mortal garnet
Okay do you mean this as a joke or seriously
joke ofc
faint pivot
It'd be so fucking funny if we just kept going back to H Corp over and over
Yihua's road block is still there
We get to pass the roof Qingtao's kezhan was on and laugh at the picnic we had there
fickle crown
Still think it's kind of annoying how flawed Lord Lu is on a fundamental level (mechanically)
Like he's a very good unit but
stoic fjord
Yihua's road block is still there
We genuinely slime out Backstreets goons with ALEPH E.G.O gear
fickle crown
Man I have to build a whole fucking team around him...
mortal garnet
We leave Hongyuan in 2027 after Spring Cultivation bokgak only to greet it again...
canto 11 war will have a gargantuan H corp mech made from every single piece of land they hold
faint pivot
Man I have to build a whole fucking team around him...
No?
mortal garnet
Man I have to build a whole fucking team around him...
yes and no
tiny cave
he's cheating
His Shin is free S3s
faint pivot
I have "Hong Lord and at least 1 Heishou" in my back pocket whenever I do MD teambuilding
mortal garnet
he get tons of buffs with heishous
fickle crown
My main point is that he really wants Heishou and kinda loses his effectiveness if you're just not really lucky enough to get a Heishou ID
mortal garnet
but just only heishou is good
faint pivot
But doesn't need them
fickle crown
Like he's not an entirely lost cause
But y'know
He loses a ton of utility without at least one Heishou teammate imo
mortal garnet
tremor? lord + horse
rupture? lord + faust
burn? show them the lords cock
faint pivot
I have him heishouless on my glass cannon team just for the resources + SP
stoic fjord
tremor? lord + horse
rupture? lord + faust
burn? show them the lords cock
Cocks, plural.
fickle crown
PM give me Devyat shuffle team you cowards
fickle crown
Cocks, plural.
The Hongyuan dragon special
faint pivot
~~PM give me Devyat shuffle team you cowards~~
We have it it's called the MIDDLE NEVER FORGETS
mortal garnet
He loses a ton of utility without at least one Heishou teammate imo
how to win with lord lu
grab a heishou
get both heishou and his passives
spam counter and s3
win
faint pivot
PLAY THAT EDM BOYS
tiny cave
Cocks, plural.
Two cocks but only one ram
faint pivot
WE GOT A VENGEANCE TO TAKE
stoic fjord
~~PM give me Devyat shuffle team you cowards~~
Genuinely I'm convinced Deyvat might do better against Ricky rn
At least they're not blunt fatal from what I remember
fickle crown
Devyat is nice rupture support imo
And also the initial strength and later falloff means they can actually win clashes from the get go
faint pivot
While true, this isn't unique to Hong Lord's Heishou team
fickle crown
Yea
mortal garnet
but lord lu is the only one to fill a whole team grid with his faction, no?
fickle crown
Yeah I was talking about Devyats
faint pivot
Mb
faint pivot
but lord lu is the only one to fill a whole team grid with his faction, no?
Technically false
Meursault has no Heishou
As of right now
fickle crown
I'm unfamiliar with their playstyle
Devyat is high initial strength and crazy buildup, but said buildup reaches a point where they start killing themselves and need to retreat
Also the 15/3 curse
But this is beneficial (at least on Rodion) if you're looking to maintain a stack
faint pivot
Sounds to me like Sinclair's got another candidate for Fell Bullet duty
fickle crown
Devyat Sinclair actually hits crazy hard, he's just not particularly good at actual rupture gameplay
mortal garnet
As of right now
shhhhh project moon can hear you and create another fucking chinese super soldier
faint pivot
Neither does Ish
Yes but she's part of Hong Lord's "faction"
tiny cave
If you’re counting just deployed slots there is 7 W Corp IDs
fickle crown
Also the main thing with Devyat ramp-up is that it's extremely reliable
Courier trunk stacks DO NOT DECAY
This is a weakness and beneficial because it boosts coin power
faint pivot
This is a weakness and beneficial because it boosts coin power
Of all skills, or only base skills?
mortal garnet
whats the deal with wcorp and charge? i never cared enough to understand what they do
fickle crown
Of all skills, or only base skills?
Only base skills
But conditionals are honestly amazingly easy to meet
faint pivot
Ah well, thought twas too good to be true anyway lmao
mortal garnet
i realized that xichun intervallo bokgak will 100% give us another heisou (or maybe not idk)
faint pivot
whats the deal with wcorp and charge? i never cared enough to understand what th...
W Don and W Ryo spend either charge or HP to pop the fuck off
mortal garnet
W Don and W Ryo spend either charge or HP to pop the fuck off
blue poise
faint pivot
Weath and Woutis provide support in tanking & charge support respectively, and build up to pop off even harder
fickle crown
Ah well, thought twas too good to be true anyway lmao
Tbh it's actually nice since you can conserve sin for EGO you'd actually want to use for sinners that need to cover their ass more than your Devyat units
stoic fjord
I want non-heishou rupture
faint pivot
blue poise
That's R Corp I'd say
stoic fjord
I want non-heishou rupture
It's just that it's not likely
faint pivot
Cause W's damage dealers are ready from the get-go
stoic fjord
It's just that it's not likely
Soon, at least
Eventually, but not right now
Give me a grade 1 Deyvat Fixer who tears shit up please
faint pivot
I mean shou-less rupture is pretty good even now
faint pivot
Give me a grade 1 Deyvat Fixer who tears shit up please
They get nerfed because of the Hong Lord tax /j
stoic fjord
I mean shou-less rupture is pretty good even now
What, Deyvat, Seven Assoc, K Corp Hong Lu?
faint pivot
What, Deyvat, Seven Assoc, K Corp Hong Lu?
Exclude K Lu
fickle crown
Anyways, I do enjoy selfish units more too which is why I love to throw out my homie Cockcliff and his absolute fucking refusal to die ever
stoic fjord
Exclude K Lu
Ah
fickle crown
What, Deyvat, Seven Assoc, K Corp Hong Lu?
You forgot Cinq Meursault
faint pivot
And AEDD Gregor now
fickle crown
Who is basically a rupture triggerman without eating the entire stack
stoic fjord
You forgot Cinq Meursault
Oh right he's actually solid with rupture or smth
mortal garnet
Anyways, I do enjoy selfish units more too which is why I love to throw out my h...
when the fire is fist
faint pivot
You want a ton of Gloom, basically
fickle crown
15/3 curse but he and Devyat Rodion won't eat your stack with their billions of coins
faint pivot
Cause AEDD is gonna stimulate your count when you need it
stoic fjord
15/3 curse but he and Devyat Rodion won't eat your stack with their billions of ...
...huh
fickle crown
Basically they lose their rupture infliction for reliable rupture triggering
Which is actually extremely useful outside of MD
stoic fjord
I wonder if you could do like, a borderline brainless rupture team that maintains stack and increases still using Lord Lu, the 3 Mao, the Deyvats, and Cinq Meur
faint pivot
I'd believe it
fickle crown
Notably Devyat Sinclair does unfortunately eat your stacks
stoic fjord
I wonder if you could do like, a borderline brainless rupture team that maintain...
Infinite rupture and safe triggering of it sounds nice actually
fickle crown
He's very negative imo
stoic fjord
I mean, 1 very negative is probably fine on a team
fickle crown
Devyat Sinclair is more of a bruiser with Rupture than he is a real Rupture guy
Especially with his S3
stoic fjord
I mean, 1 very negative is probably fine on a team
Like, 3 Mao and if you have Hong Lord with Outis it probably does crazy count upkeep
faint pivot
So Madonka but trans and in debt, got it
mortal garnet
i wonder, if one day we get head ids, how will they balance them
bc if a newcomer get one of these ids, lets say outis arbiter, the person just solos the whole inferno with this id alone?
stoic fjord
So.... rupture hybrid faction team. That sounds fun
faint pivot
i wonder, if one day we get head ids, how will they balance them
bc if a newcom...
Good question actually
fickle crown
mortal garnet
Hong Lord's retreat is 1/sinner btw
just dont chose any other sinner as backup
fickle crown
Lot of words but on his 15/3 conditional, he instead throws on an extra +4 to his last coin in his S3
stoic fjord
I should try for it once I'm done with the season
faint pivot
just dont chose any other sinner as backup
That just turns it into a buff, rather than a free s1 and s3, right?
fickle crown
Nope...
stoic fjord
aside from Soda, does Hongler have any envy egos
TS5 will save Soda
Trust
faint pivot
Fingers cross its ts5-yeah
Like
I saw some fuckass envy team
Use Soda for the res chain
And it worked
So I think it's fine
mortal garnet
mortal garnet
That just turns it into a buff, rather than a free s1 and s3, right?
as far as i remember, he gives a free s1 with no backup unit
faint pivot
Ah
faint pivot
Well I don't think normal fights last that long
And in MD the fights that do often end up with deaths so
That 1/sinner downside is negated
stoic fjord
Okay lowk
mortal garnet
I saw some fuckass envy team
people really like envy teams, huh
stoic fjord
With the Deyvats
fickle crown
+4 coin power on that final coin is honestly crazy all things considered if we're looking at base content
stoic fjord
Their retreat would allow Hong Lord to proc Heishou S3 on entry
Deyvat might genuinely be competitive with Si Rodion and Heishou Sinclair from what I've seen
Like, just, everything considered, if you get your count solid (use the 3 Mao and some E.G.O)
cosmic gorge
also holy shit does hex nail faust boost albinafaust
stoic fjord
I feel like that team cooks
faint pivot
also holy shit does hex nail faust boost albinafaust
I believe yes
cosmic gorge
up to +50% damage based on negative effects
faint pivot
Wait ain't that on yourself
fickle crown
Like, just, everything considered, if you get your count solid (use the 3 Mao an...
Still unfortunate how Mao ended up shooting deathrites dead...
faint pivot
At least Deathrite is a Q Corp thing
fickle crown
Yea
stoic fjord
Deathrites were a fun gimmick and I wish more of the heishou had them maybe
stoic fjord
Deathrites were a fun gimmick and I wish more of the heishou had them maybe
Though I do also think the other heishou released don't have reason for it as mucb
The chickens and the horse have their own stuff
faint pivot
And the ram
faint pivot
I agree but
Why would she need it though
stoic fjord
BTW I love Wei Don
She made Red Sheet usable
stoic fjord
I agree but
Why would she need it though
Okay yeah fair now that you say that
faint pivot
She made Red Sheet usable
Cinq East Don:
mortal garnet
She made Red Sheet usable
red sheet is bad?
faint pivot
red sheet is bad?
I disagree if people say that (which I haven't heard)
stoic fjord
red sheet is bad?
It's rupture and she didn't have a rupture main
fickle crown
It's more like... Don just doesn't really have any other options for rupture
faint pivot
It clashes well
fickle crown
Aside from Madonka
stoic fjord
Its sin spread is also helped by Heishou
fickle crown
Who isn't even a real Rupture unit lmao
stoic fjord
It's not bad, just like
faint pivot
Its sin spread is also helped by Heishou
True
stoic fjord
It was in the same situation as Meursault YMC before Cassette
Before Wei Don dropped and fixed that by giving her a main user
fickle crown
Also I guess at least with Wei Don her lack of deathrite makes sense since she has panic alteration instead iirc?
faint pivot
i wonder, if one day we get head ids, how will they balance them
bc if a newcom...
I feel like letting this happen would be better for the game than, say, locking Purgatorio IDs behind clearing Inferno
fickle crown
Eh, if it happens it happens is how I'll put it
stoic fjord
Also I guess at least with Wei Don her lack of deathrite makes sense since she h...
I swear she also had something as a unique debuff similar-ish to Concussion
fickle crown
At this point it's a bit late to be story locking IDs
faint pivot
I swear she also had something as a unique debuff similar-ish to Concussion
She does
stoic fjord
i wonder, if one day we get head ids, how will they balance them
bc if a newcom...
I think level cap will help keep this in check
mortal garnet
I feel like letting this happen would be better for the game than, say, locking ...
Maybe
faint pivot
Shattermark
stoic fjord
To an extent
stoic fjord
Shattermark
Yuh
fickle crown
I think level cap will help keep this in check
Consider: uptie 4 is locked early into the game
stoic fjord
Also that yeah
faint pivot
Not very early
fickle crown
Plus you'll lack Uptie resources in general
cosmic gorge
Wait ain't that on yourself
i cant read
gentle mulch
can soup ego be useful finally
stoic fjord
Essentially
faint pivot
Plus you'll lack Uptie resources in general
And soloing only really works in unfocused focused
stoic fjord
I think they'll do the Udjat Outis thing
stoic fjord
And make some of the IDs have dogshit UT3s
faint pivot
Oh wait
fickle crown
Wrong way around red
mortal garnet
Nothing there ego when
stoic fjord
Nothing there ego when
You have received a voicemail.
stoic fjord
Anyways
faint pivot
Hilariously painful
With the absurd golf between power levels I uh
stoic fjord
I need them to tease something after Capstone Ryoshu soon
faint pivot
I wouldn't put it past Head-level IDs to have nonsense like "this sinner suffers no unopposed attacks"
mortal garnet
I bet all my life saving that we will see aleph level things in the next canto
mortal garnet
I need them to tease something after Capstone Ryoshu soon
The trailer spoiled what she aplies?
stoic fjord
I need them to tease something after Capstone Ryoshu soon
Building Kurokumo/BL Bloise with Pinkyclair is looking more and more tempting every single day
mortal garnet
Poise, burn or something?
mortal garnet
Tremor🗣️
stoic fjord
My guess is actually that she'll ramp to do all statuses except for rupture
As she eliminates nursefathers
mortal garnet
Oh yeah, shes another capstone that needs the other ids in a way like lord lu
But nursefathers are cooler tho
fickle crown
I wouldn't put it past Head-level IDs to have nonsense like "this sinner suffers...
On one hand yes, on the other hand it'd be fucking funny seeing someone still manage a win in purgatorio with sloshmael
Because the community is just insane like that
stoic fjord
Oh yeah, shes another capstone that needs the other ids in a way like lord lu
Tbf every capstone since Spicebush has been this to an extent
fickle crown
Ehhh, Captainmael is actually surprisingly flexible tbh
stoic fjord
Pequod Ishmael was made to function with her crew, this one is the weakest argument, Wild Hunt needed the others because genuinely where the fuck else would he get sinking
Manager Don gets buffs from the other bloodfiends
stoic fjord
Oh right he has all that
mortal garnet
Wild hunt is the only one that you dont need the people from the manor, since nowdays we have many other options for sinking, but gregor linton is still good for it
stoic fjord
I like running faction teams
stoic fjord
I like running faction teams
It's more satisfying than solos for me
(Also easier most of the time)
fickle crown
Lintgor also just being one of those funny plus coin units with technically no upper limit on his ability to gain coin power to boot
Aside from skill slots
stoic fjord
Lintgor also just being one of those funny plus coin units with technically no u...
I really need to do an MDE solo with him to try and get like, 12 coin power Solemn Lament or something
I wonder if an MDE solo has been done with the worst solo unit yet
Which, on that note, who's the worst solo unit?
stoic fjord
Fr?
fickle crown
Right next to Boatworks Sinclair and Zwei South Sinclair
stoic fjord
I would figure her having aggro would help her due to passives n such
Also a passable-ish healthpool from what I can tell
fickle crown
Doesn't matter because she won't benefit if she can't even clash
She actually rolls worse then base ish iirc
stoic fjord
Okay fair
stoic fjord
Right next to Boatworks Sinclair and Zwei South Sinclair
And solos have been completed with all 3?
fickle crown
I think so
Also Boatworks Sinclair is
Truly the ID of all time
S1 that hits like a fucking pool noodle
gentle mulch
4th match flame TS5 better just blow everyone up with how many shards are gonna get used on it
stoic fjord
The fact this shit would genuinely be likely to fail the Garden of Thorns check is amazing
fickle crown
Also self tremor bursting on S3...
stoic fjord
S1 that hits like a fucking pool noodle
There is NOTHING fierce about this
gentle mulch
wtf is the thorns check
gentle mulch
LMAO
fickle crown
Gamble is more like "Gambling with your sanity"
gentle mulch
yeah
fickle crown
His only passable skill is his S2
Genuinely, Rosespanner Gregor is a fucking upgrade to this ID on every level
gentle mulch
okay
can we get UT5 for 00s to transition into 000 levels
i kinda want ring outis to clash and have skills that arent s2
fickle crown
Genuinely considered facading this guy regardless because his fit is so trash it somehow loops to being alright
stoic fjord
Every ID with a chainsaw so far has been dogshit
Except Albina Faust
But that's not her main weapon
stoic fjord
Oh fr?
stoic fjord
Fair, fair
cosmic gorge
dodge queen
stoic fjord
That much I knew yeah
stoic fjord
dodge queen
Molar Ishmael is a sinking ID pretending to have tremor
fickle crown
And Rosespanner Rodion was pretty good for her time and I've occasionally used her in tremor because her S2 is tremor relentless stabbing
You also forgot T Corp Don
Who is part of the funny time moratorium strat
stoic fjord
You also forgot T Corp Don
....that's a chainsaw???
stoic fjord
And Rosespanner Rodion was pretty good for her time and I've occasionally used h...
Wait, hers isn't just a hammer???
fickle crown
She has one on her arm????
stoic fjord
Molar Outis is also still viable in tremor
THAT'S ALSO A CHAINSAW???
fickle crown
Wait, hers isn't just a hammer???
Her wrench is a chainsaw
Yeah
Have you not heard her skill effects?
stoic fjord
She has one on her arm????
I somehow never noticed
stoic fjord
Have you not heard her skill effects?
No 😭
fickle crown
But seriously, Molar Outis has a motorized weapon
stoic fjord
Okay that is nice to know
Now I just need more than 1 good shotgun ID and I will have no more weapon complaints
stoic fjord
Now I just need more than 1 good shotgun ID and I will have no more weapon compl...
...is Udjat Outis using a shotgun or a rifle
uneven canopy
rifle
stoic fjord
Okay whatever I still want more shotguns
stoic fjord
...is Udjat Outis using a shotgun or a rifle
I've been told both so idk at this point, I imagine it might just be muzzle flash tho
fickle crown
fickle crown
I've been told both so idk at this point, I imagine it might just be muzzle flas...
It's a sand gun so uh... Somewhere in between
Ah yeah, Molar Outis is also one of the kickstarters of the tremor -> damage trend
Since she was one of those rare IDs that directly converted bursts into sin damage
stoic fjord
I wonder if we'll ever get an ID that's like... large
Like someone in a decently sized mech or smth
ebon forge
r meursault:
cosmic gorge
Like someone in a decently sized mech or smth
i want a Jin MvC2 ID where its the pilot whose on the ground but their mech pops out during skills
stoic fjord
r meursault:
He genuinely looks stupid so I won't even give him the respect of acknowledgement
stoic fjord
i want a Jin MvC2 ID where its the pilot whose on the ground but their mech pops...
That would be cool yeah
Or like, a temporary secondary form maybe
stoic fjord
He genuinely looks stupid so I won't even give him the respect of acknowledgemen...
He makes me unreasonably fucking mad and I don't even know why
fickle crown
I wonder if we'll ever get an ID that's like... large
Wcliff
Also jokingly Sloshmael
stoic fjord
Wcliff
He's like. Marginally larger but it's mostly just armor
Is Bluelock egoism anything like PMoon E.G.O
gentle mulch
deciding to go to bed because I have to wake up to the kit reveal instead of like. doing it for sleep or anything
stoic fjord
deciding to go to bed because I *have* to wake up to the kit reveal instead of l...
Lmao
Real
uneven canopy
when is that
gentle mulch
roughly 5 hours
stoic fjord
New announcements in 4 days means new ID teasers as well right
mortal garnet
Now I just need more than 1 good shotgun ID and I will have no more weapon compl...
Hornetsault
stoic fjord
Hornetsault
He's the 1
mortal garnet
Lucky me got both aromashu and hornet
And now i have shards for the id holding burn together
keen palm
I stg I cannot get Docent Rodya to do anything useful
cosmic gorge
Ut4?
split beacon
real shit, if you want Docent Rodya to cook bring a Bleed unit with a "sticky"/nondecaying status
keen palm
UT4 yes
split beacon
FA Ryoshu makes the Fauvists (and the Ring in general) go apeshit
keen palm
FA?
keen palm
Ah gotcha
See my issue is that her gimmick doesn't work for like
a lot of content
I just tried to use her for both luxcavations and her shit just Cannot Trigger
cosmic gorge
Her shit is hard to trigger in nonfocused non bleed teams id say
She works best with the ring because they stack a dozen riders
Also aweshu
When she does trigger her aoe s3-2 its beautiful
mystic ermine
When she does trigger her aoe s3-2 its beautiful
the sound, the look, the damage, the numbers
the fucken
girth of the swing
iounno
keen palm
I'm Mr. Bleed dawg
mystic ermine
I love it
cosmic gorge
Ive been siccing her at big rick and she does well at least until the second half (by then everyone else is doing worse off)
But yes her s3-2 is harder to do in nonfocused encounters
faint pivot
I just tried to use her for both luxcavations and her shit just Cannot Trigger
Huh
Oh Docent Rodya, thought you were talking about CARshu
Tbf I hardly get Faust to switch gear
And haven't seen Hongler use Closing Time under 5 luxes in a row so
dusty sigil
Molar Outis is also still viable in tremor
Isn’t she preferred for non T Corp tremor teams? Since her main competition is T Corp Outis
humble orbit
Is Bluelock egoism anything like PMoon E.G.O
not only do i not know, i do not want to know
humble orbit
Isn’t she preferred for non T Corp tremor teams? Since her main competition is T...
t-corp outis is cheeks (for most fights. in stuff like reflectrial she might be good because of how long you can expect your units to be on the field)
competition is between molar outis and udjat outis. thing is that sinking/tremor is a really, really good archetype so i have no clue which is more M e t a
keen palm
Director-shi...
cosmic gorge
director-chan be posing like he's the black silence 😭
He simultaneously looks like my nephew, my older cousin and my uncle who works at the government office
ebon forge
when kit reveal
cosmic gorge
two minutes from now?
ebon forge
IT TIME
UNPAID INTERN GIMME KIT
she's only 3 pages somehow
BURN BLEED POISE
awwwww
huh.
karmic escarp
finally all the 'muh burn season' idiots can shut their damn mouths
uneven canopy
we have a second theme music changer
ebon forge
a
ebon forge
a
atomic steeple
Very cool
Strange, nothing interacts with the s3-2 of the nursefathers
Why do they have a token amount of burn then?
uneven canopy
weirdly seems like a tank that uses HoS IDs like health bars
vagrant dove
The gaining skill slots thing is nice
fickle crown
No poison 💔
mystic ermine
Smh my head
mystic ermine
Strange, nothing interacts with the s3-2 of the nursefathers
Why do they have a...
Singed by the blade, I guess
quick quartz
cosmic gorge
there goes my walpipi stocks
atomic steeple
Welp, gotta shard every single HoS id
vagrant dove
Luckily I have shards
atomic steeple
I only have ring ones
stoic fjord
"Change battle music" under a passive called Saikai....
Oh no...
vagrant dove
Luckily I have shards
With solemn grace, I submit this deserved ut4 module
atomic steeple
I need ryoshu at full power
cosmic gorge
we will get matthoutis and valenciarodya right
gentle mulch
we got music creep
cosmic gorge
im afraid
buoyant stream
we will get matthoutis and valenciarodya right
No way we don't
gentle mulch
if they stop releasing HoS IDs after this it's such dropped potential
cosmic gorge
I dunno fellas she can Excise People from Existence there is a Possibility dawgs
a diagetic possibility 😭
buoyant stream
Doesn't matter they're not listed in the passive, they'll just slap it onto their own texts like with the heishou released after hongler
cosmic gorge
true
gentle mulch
okay but diagetically dante got an upscale where they can reverse it
cosmic gorge
lets see what the uptie story has to say
stoic fjord
Doesn't matter they're not listed in the passive, they'll just slap it onto thei...
Also like N Corp Yi Sang and Ryoshu
stoic fjord
Fair
atomic steeple
"Change battle music" under a passive called Saikai....
Oh no...
THough instead, the trailer has the songs for the final dihui battle and muga ryoshu playing
atomic steeple
if they stop releasing HoS IDs after this it's such dropped potential
No way they stop
We have luciocliff behind ryoshu int he trailer
Plus we need all 6 to give ryoshu 7 slots
atomic steeple
Oh she is dihui star but has a tiansha skill
buoyant stream
No way they stop
We have luciocliff behind ryoshu int he trailer
Plus we need al...
Well obviously they won't stop and we've seen heath and rodya silhouettes buuuut
We can already get her to 7 slots
stoic fjord
No way they stop
We have luciocliff behind ryoshu int he trailer
Plus we need al...
Also KJH can feel my psychic resonance and knows I would genuinely slime him out if I got cucked out of burn tremor in MD this season
atomic steeple
Oh, apparently you could activate the poise burn bleed ego gifts for ryoshu with a full HoS team plus two poise ids
cosmic gorge
https://youtu.be/EcYOQyren3U?si=tKPHwgsWbHlfZf7w
darn, its the censored version
sorry, [CENSORED] version
faint pivot
Strange, nothing interacts with the s3-2 of the nursefathers
Why do they have a...
Activates Burn
Also I'm guessing Inevitable Termination is the NF skill stealer
stoic fjord
Oh, apparently you could activate the poise burn bleed ego gifts for ryoshu with...
The two additional poise IDs can be the Index
faint pivot
B.M. for B.R.
stoic fjord
A little sad she has no Envy but makes sense
Her hatred is far too destructive and all-consuming for envy i think
faint pivot
True
But I'd expect it to be there cause of ambition
Apparently no
Her raison de'tre is simply that she's Like That
stoic fjord
I'm so fucking curious as to her actual backstory
stoic fjord
I'm so fucking curious as to her actual backstory
Why did she take Shiomi's place. Why is one of her alternate paths a version of Shiomi
faint pivot
Why did she take Shiomi's place. Why is one of her alternate paths a version of ...
Maybe this time she was loved
Like what uh
Dammit, which PNetter's theory was this
stoic fjord
Maybe this time she was loved
"One of the five parents genuinely loving her leads to the worst fucking outcome possible" feels depressing as fuck 
mortal garnet
Poise burn and bleed? Welcome back pequod ishmael
gentle mulch
ggwuhhhhfgg Oh My God is this the first time we've had two triple status IDs with exact overlap
faint pivot
xyz
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yz
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xz
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mortal garnet
Y
faint pivot
This is the first ever MD triple status team you can bring a mono-status ID onto
In other words: Firefist Gregor is on the menu
mortal garnet
In other words: Firefist Gregor is on the menu
I cant stop winning
I hope that capstone ryoshu can still be good without teamkill
gentle mulch
imagine this
you teamkill the HoS IDs
you can never use those IDs again but the buffs are in fact permanent
so the new Ryoshu just has 7 skill slots if deployed solo
atomic steeple
Oh spicebush has branch wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM2dDdm-Mgc
mortal garnet
so the new Ryoshu just has 7 skill slots if deployed solo
And when we get the 2 thumb ids, we get 2 more perma buffs!
gentle mulch
exactly
mortal garnet
Btw if ryoshu is just erasing everyone, thats infact a dante upscale
vagrant dove
Oh spicebush has branch wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM2dDdm-Mgc
I can't wait for her part 2 of this
She clocked HL's deal so well
+her general art insights are rly cool
mortal garnet
But if she just cut them into nothing (not an actual erasure) is also a dante upscale for turning the clock from nothing
vagrant dove
Every new id is a dante upscale atp, i don't make the rules
atomic steeple
apparently pmoon been in a legal battle with the author of wonderlab and mostly won it
gentle mulch
and why we don't have direct talks about Aberrations
neat cedar
apparently pmoon been in a legal battle with the author of wonderlab and mostly ...
oh?
I thought that whole bidness had been settled already
damn
stoic fjord
I wish we could get like
A modern refresh of spicebush
Give it the domain expansion and give the domain expansion the music
atomic steeple
Oh spicebush has branch wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM2dDdm-Mgc
"Just snatch the waist a bit"
cosmic gorge
Give it the domain expansion and give the domain expansion the music
purgatorio refresh of old ids
imagine
stoic fjord
purgatorio refresh of old ids
I genuinely just want modernized spicebush
Deluge is funny
But give me my fuckin... domain expansion aura farmer
vagrant dove
I genuinely just want modernized spicebush
Spicebush yi sang I think has one of the prettiest overall splash arts (both ut1 and ut3 are so good)
An update would go so hard for him
stoic fjord
Real
stoic fjord
An update would go so hard for him
I feel like there has to be a way in-universe to justify remakes of old IDs
vagrant dove
Jumping ahead in the mirror world?
Like we have had that basically happen with the LobCorp one
faint pivot
Yeah but that's tied to Walpurgisnacht
vagrant dove
REAP Ryoshu is from an earlier point in that mirror world than FAAS Ryoshu
faint pivot
REAP Ryoshu is from an earlier point in that mirror world than FAAS Ryoshu
QoHote and Omdon did it first
Anw Walp is repeating
vagrant dove
I know
faint pivot
We have a line we can go back to and sync with the MWoLC
vagrant dove
I'm just saying there is precedent
faint pivot
There's also the Gregors in EGO gear
stoic fjord
KJH give me Domain Expansion Spicebush and I will genuinely never stop playing Limbus unless I die
faint pivot
KJH give me Domain Expansion Spicebush and I will genuinely never stop playing L...
I wouldn't be surprised if someone made a mod for this
stoic fjord
KJH give me Domain Expansion Spicebush and I will genuinely never stop playing L...
And make him a real sinking tremor unit
Also
For the bad end Ryo id
I just KNOW
They're giving either her and/or Renclair dialogue for that
The erasure
And it's going to be fucking HEARTBREAKING
vagrant dove
I just know there's gonna be dialogue for the ||Araya|| fight
stoic fjord
I just know there's gonna be dialogue for the ||Araya|| fight
She's gonna have it for Rien as well I think
stoic fjord
They're giving either her and/or Renclair dialogue for that
Like, her giving him negative priority for execution. Fuck.
They're going to hurt us.
faint pivot
Interesting that she only swipes on Evade
vagrant dove
They're going to hurt us.
This is gonna be some ManDon - La Manchaland Don Quixote type shit
tired canyon
"sorry Blade Lineage, i don't think you're lore important enough to be a part of the main story."
'That's bullshit, you let the sweepers in!'
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vagrant dove
This is gonna be some ManDon - La Manchaland Don Quixote type shit
"…You gave up your dream for the Family? You, who preached about your dream with every breath…?"
stoic fjord
"…You gave up your dream for the Family? You, who preached about your dream with...
STOOOOP
vagrant dove
canto 7 just hits
But yeah, can't wait to have my heart broken with this ids voicelines
stoic fjord
I wonder what bringing the thumb duo to the thumb duo fight would have
vagrant dove
Can the room survive the combined ego of Valrodya and Valencina
stoic fjord
Can the room survive the combined ego of Valrodya and Valencina
Match my hatred. Match my hatred. Match my hatred. Match my hatred.
vagrant dove
The hunt is coming to a close I think
stoic fjord
Valencina Rodion vs. THE KAISER
stoic fjord
Does Riensang get any reactions from Sora or Rien
Don't remember seeing anything on it
faint pivot
Valencina Rodion vs. THE KAISER
Ain't no way we aren't seeing Thumb HC
stoic fjord
Usually that's reserved for bad ends
faint pivot
Usually that's reserved for bad ends
Yeah but cmonnn
stoic fjord
Ain't no way we aren't seeing Thumb HC
Him as well
stoic fjord
Yeah but cmonnn
Yeah I feel you
vagrant dove
I think Nelly Ryoshu is the exception from what I remember
stoic fjord
Mhm
faint pivot
She speaks up yea
stoic fjord
"Yo fuck you dude you suck at this parenting shit. Lock in. You should be ashamed."
faint pivot
Hm
Do we have
11 HoS affiliated IDs?
2 for each Finger, plus Caposault?
He doesn't count for B.E.R. but close enough
vagrant dove
I do wonder if we'll get a line for that stage
stoic fjord
2 for each Finger, plus Caposault?
I doubt caposault is linked there is the thing
vagrant dove
Since she does get the Mutilated Memory passive during Lei Heng's fight
faint pivot
I doubt caposault is linked there is the thing
Why wouldn't he be?
He visited the House of Spiders often at minimum
stoic fjord
He visited the House of Spiders often at minimum
Wait right he did
Mb
I forgot about that lmao
faint pivot
Yeah mb another thought bled in lmao
But yeah this leaves Gregor as the person without a HoS collaborator ID
vagrant dove
Something something he's an outcast
faint pivot
I'm guessing Meursault got nothing Hongyuan-specific last season because he was a Stranger