Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[vagrant dove]

I think WN in this analogy would be Dante

Especially with some of the shit that it says

[stoic fjord]

...is there then something above Whitenight, then, seeing as it speaks of 13 besides it? And presumably that includes Dante?

[stoic fjord]

Fair

[faint pivot]

C

Who else would be holier than the creator?

[vagrant dove]

Yeah that line is still a bit of an issue, but I do think the WN analogy has meat to it

1WhiteNight arrived from the end of the world, and He walks towards the beginning of the new world.`

[faint pivot]

...oh wait

Oh nvm

Thought I misremembered C only ever being mentioned with her full name in LobCorp

(Trying to say Carmen in a cheeky way but failing)

[stoic fjord]

I have up to Heathcliff on my tomodachi life island

Today I will add Ishmael, Rodion, Dante, Sinclair, Outis, and Gregor

Also Vergilius and Charon

I'm getting Dante and Vergilius married no matter what happens

[cosmic gorge]

im in mdie with the gloom rock t4 gift and the sloth rock t4 gift

with my sinking team treasures i summon

🔁 🐟 ⚓

[vagrant dove]

Oh speaking of abnos and dante

King in Binds

These umbral reflections of us bring to mind the ‘Identity Cards’ Dante holds.

An egoless incarnation of ‘Identities’ manifested may hold a certain resemblance to the way they appear before us.

Defeating one of them merely makes a vacancy for another to fill, for they number the same as we do.

Now that I have spent some time in observation of their operations, I have noticed a conspicuously considerable collection of similitudes between us.

I can presume that their number is most likely equivalent to our own; their techniques in parallel to ours.

Yet what those Peccatula lack is the will to make decisions of their own.

Like cards to be played with and discarded at the king’s whim.

Kings, both of eld and new it seems, enjoy plays of puppets, a musical of manikins.

Wielding men as cold tools, brandishing and flourishing them with abandon, breaking them. And upon their inevitable shattering, the king shall fill their spot with another puppet, its absence unnoticed.

Yet, this king may be quite fond of his own.

To shower his retinue with ceaseless blessings while leaving naught for the rest of us.

Mm… such is all I have to say.
-Yi Sang, second Abnormality Log

[faint pivot]

@formal wyvern the rest of us sleeper agents tend to hang around here~

[formal wyvern]

o/

I admit I have never got past the first layer of labs due to always playing the game as ultra-hardcore (full wipe of everyone upon failing a day)

So my lore knowledge is very limited

[faint pivot]

You're fine

[vagrant dove]

Direct textual comparison to the Identity Cards+ "this king may be quite fond of his own": the Sinners could be said to be showered with blessings via the golden bough resonance

[faint pivot]

Even without that handicap the game is still plenty hard

[formal wyvern]

I do however have an undying hatred for the bag of organs santa, that shit is WAY too powerful for its rating

Run ender right there

[faint pivot]

Rudolta is indeed very annoying

I hate its EGO gift too

It looks so ass

[vagrant dove]

I tend to avoid the gnomes in md

[faint pivot]

Oh we're talking about a LobCorp abno

At least I think we are?

https://lobotomycorporation.wiki.gg/wiki/Rudolta_of_the_Sleigh

[faint pivot]

This happen to be the cause of your woes?

[formal wyvern]

That's the one

[faint pivot]

Ah LobCorp it is

[vagrant dove]

I mixed my christmas-based horror up lmao

[faint pivot]

Also tis a place to share knowledge too (or just hang around) so feel free to drop by regardless

[vagrant dove]

Or rather, not abnos, since the gnomes are fully realised beings while abnornalities are closer to embodied concepts

[formal wyvern]

Rudolta is worse than most WAWs imo

[buoyant stream]

lobcorp honestly the one PM game i couldnt get into. brain too smoll for management games

[faint pivot]

Fault yourself naught

Ts turning me into a masochist gang how have I liked it 😭

[vagrant dove]

Lobcorp is a great game but... flawed

[formal wyvern]

Its a game intended to be beaten with meta-progression

[faint pivot]

I must continue to emphasize this was constructed on failed kickstarter budget

It is 1000% flawed

It still stands out in spite of its jank

[vagrant dove]

I mean flawed in the sense of "very buggy", incidentally

[faint pivot]

Oh that's what I'm saying lmao

[vagrant dove]

I just wanted to clarify

[faint pivot]

Well hey either way, bugless or no, it's still painful to go through

[formal wyvern]

So many dead clerks

[faint pivot]

PMoon really wanted us to feel exactly how X does from across the screen

And they did it pretty well all things considered

[faint pivot]

I'm surprised I still remembered a time where I cared about my clerks

This is how far off the deep end it threw me

[faint pivot]

Say

Have you reached either:

• A Midnight Ordeal, or
• A Core Suppression

[formal wyvern]

I've died at a midnight

[faint pivot]

Okay I remembered right

[faint pivot]

Please reconsider playing with this handicap

[formal wyvern]

I know core supressions are a big part of the meta progresion but I've not lived until one

[faint pivot]

Boss this game is painful enough already you're gonna atomize your ashes with the burnout you'll have 😭

[buoyant stream]

From what i've seen watching my friend play LobCorp, it seems like a game that does not respect your time

[atomic steeple]

Augh, I almost beat r corp II with gebura solo, but guess bleed got her
Then I went to netzach floor, and was going well, but then the last wave started throwing their big attacks
Lesson learned, more sustain on gebura
And focus fire the characters in the last wave one by one. SHould probably kill myo first

[faint pivot]

It asks you to FAFO a lot, and random chance is a non-insignificant factor to all of that yeah

[atomic steeple]

Bleed burn poise charge ryoshu

[buoyant stream]

i'll stick to reading that one's story and doing dumb stuff in Ruina and LCB

[vagrant dove]

To be fair, there are mechanics to mitigate failure (memory repo) but yeah, it does expect you to fail

[tiny cave]

Playing LobCorp really makes you feel like Ayin

[faint pivot]

Failure costs you the metacurrency of IRL time

Depending on how concerted your facility is that day, or if you have TT10 installed, that could range from 20 minutes to a good few hours

[vagrant dove]

And sometimes it's just outright mean

[faint pivot]

Or y'know 3 minutes

Cause you forgot to dress a nugget in EGO gear and now you gotta wait for the game to load

[buoyant stream]

yeah idk i already always got stressed and overprepped for ruina Realizations specifically because i didn't want to lose an hour+

[atomic steeple]

I was this close
This close

[faint pivot]

Oh same

But hey

At least with LobCorp you can actually overprep

[buoyant stream]

so the fact that lobcorp can go "lol. lmao, even." to that is. not my cup of tea

[vagrant dove]

Very fair!

[faint pivot]

Indeed

[faint pivot]

At the very least there's nothing save-wiping

But uh

Depending on your tolerance and what you define "failure" as, yeah it'll turn you hollow if you aren't careful

[atomic steeple]

Think I'll go fight nosferatu later today to complete gebura's gang
Touch up my build a bit
Then try a gebura solo again

[buoyant stream]

mfw i dont know what each codes are so i end up getting express train to hell and burrowing heaven in my facility smile

[atomic steeple]

Holy shit you really can't let the r corp leaders build up, gonna explode them as fast as possible next attempt

[vagrant dove]

That train can fucking stay in hell

[tiny cave]

Throwing your computer out the window because some BS breached is save wiping

[faint pivot]

Tis indeed the FAFO & the "fuck yous" mentioned earlier

[faint pivot]

Magic losing their save still hurts ngl

They seemingly wanted to get through the game too but alas

Comp bricked on its own

(Unrelated to LobCorp to clarify)

[tiny cave]

That’s CENSORED breaching your hard drive

[buoyant stream]

R Corp 2 from my experience always was an RNG check on not getting mind whipped to death initially and then building enough momentum on Red Mist keypage to just blend everything into oblivion

[tiny cave]

Yeah the reindeers are the hardest part of R Corp 2

[faint pivot]

I forgot what I did R Corp 2 with

Must've gotten Mind Whipped

[tiny cave]

Idk I think I just ran kizuna rememberance all the way to blue man ensemble

[vagrant dove]

The Blue Man Group (1)

As opposed to the Blue Man Group (2)

[buoyant stream]

i think i mostly did Hod and Yesod stuff until i eventually unlocked Red Mist keypage at which point i just did Binah and Geb for basically all non-forced receptions

the amount of times i actually used Tiph's floor is about equal to the amount of fights you had to use her for

[tiny cave]

My first playthrough was Geb for everything once I got RM

[faint pivot]

I enjoyed Tiph's floor tbh

[tiny cave]

That was before the nerf to the breakdown page that gives you str lol

[faint pivot]

Assigning each nugget a role and getting to play with the AoE later was really appealing to me

[tiny cave]

Tiph’s floor unlocking its main gimmick at the end of the game is oof

[faint pivot]

Tiphxodia too, though I haven't actually managed to do that yet lmao

[faint pivot]

End? You mean there's more past EGO pages?

Oh right ensemble keypages

Mb mb lmao

Thought you meant that each floor gets upgrades or smth

[tiny cave]

Needing to complete her realisation which is in civitas iirc to get Nihil

[faint pivot]

It's SotC

[stoic fjord]

I like Red Mist but I find she actually gets... weaker as the game goes on? Mainly because Mountain of Corpses is super hard to get maxed

[tiny cave]

Mountain of Corpse isn’t what’s good about that floor

[faint pivot]

Hokma & Binah's are in Civitas

[stoic fjord]

Because you need to lose clashes, but that gets you killed, but you want your librarians alive to feed you

[tiny cave]

Savagery is busted AF

[buoyant stream]

mountain of corpses is a trap imo

[stoic fjord]

Oh yeah I know that I just like using it

[faint pivot]

It's super fun

[stoic fjord]

And it goes crazy when it works

[faint pivot]

Addicting even

[buoyant stream]

its a hail mary for when the run is kinda going to shit. or something you build around for funsies

[tiny cave]

There’s a ton of setups that can get Geb to damage herself for 25% of her max HP every turn and then you win

[stoic fjord]

And it's super strong if you can get it to work, imo

But also yeah the other stuff is better

[tiny cave]

Except against Tanya

[faint pivot]

We do the latter yeah

[tiny cave]

Because KJH saw the cheese was too stronk

[stoic fjord]

And Xiao.

[tiny cave]

It works against Xiao

[stoic fjord]

Fr?

[tiny cave]

She can’t use any pages if Geb is untargetable and the only one alive

[stoic fjord]

I got fucking barbecued against her Myongest was failing me even with Yesod Cheese

[faint pivot]

Her raw attacks deal that much damage to down Xiao?

[tiny cave]

So she’ll just slot nothing

And then you one sided attack her to death

[stoic fjord]

Ohhhh wait okay

[faint pivot]

Isn't Savagery

1 turn?

[stoic fjord]

... I still don't quite get it but I'll nod like I do

[tiny cave]

Yes you have setups to keep taking 25% of your max and healing

[faint pivot]

No no like

[tiny cave]

So you activate it every turn

[faint pivot]

O h

Okay that makes more sense LMFAO

[stoic fjord]

Ouch.

[faint pivot]

I didn't realize you could use it multiple times

[tiny cave]

Yeah like Spring’s Genesis there’s no cap

[stoic fjord]

Gebura's E.G.O pages are so fucked

[tiny cave]

That’s why people don’t use it for challenge runs

[stoic fjord]

I love them

[buoyant stream]

i think my geb was like. Just kinda draintank and strength stacking stuff.

felt the most intuitive

[stoic fjord]

Currently planning to uhhh

Beat Lob Corp

And then restart ruina

With the assistant librarians as my favorite employees

Ideally on floors where I can assign them appropriate E.G.O pages, perhaps

[faint pivot]

I actively avoided Myongest so same here (currently, trynna figure out a more entertaining way to get Mountain of Corpses going)

Oh right you mentioned this

[buoyant stream]

oh i ALSO myongest'ed things to death

[stoic fjord]

I went for Myongest because I was not smart enough to not do the basic strong strats

[buoyant stream]

numbers big make brain go happy

[faint pivot]

Hey nothing wrong with either of that

[stoic fjord]

Anyways big fan of pierce netzach

[faint pivot]

Netzach

I still don't get Ever-repeating Performance

[stoic fjord]

I don't either lmao

[faint pivot]

Apparently you can use it to discard enemy AoE turns

By that steam achievement I mean

[buoyant stream]

i think i had a modded ruina savefile somewhere in the works that has mostly some QoL stuff and the uh. The one mod where you start with a nerfed black silence keypage so you actually get to USE that page through the game instead of for, like, 2 fights

[stoic fjord]

I'm genuinely stupid, I just brute forced the game until it worked

[faint pivot]

But I got the timing wrong, I think

[stoic fjord]

I should get that mod

[vagrant dove]

It is a shame you don't get to use Roland's stuff for long

Like I get why that decision was made narratively

But also

[stoic fjord]

I really like his gimmick cards after the realization but we just don't get to use them

[buoyant stream]

funnily enough that mod actually made the canard tutorial abno really really difficult

[stoic fjord]

Fr?

How did it make bloodbath difficult?

[buoyant stream]

because you roll like garbage and you don't hit the thing's weakness well

[stoic fjord]

Ohh lmao

[buoyant stream]

so it can actually just kill you if you dont get moderately lucky

had me crying laughing

[vagrant dove]

He really is washed up

[buoyant stream]

washed up grade 9 fixer fr

[faint pivot]

Damn Roland

You doing worse than your fucking assistants

What happened to your bones bro

[stoic fjord]

Godddd I need more gun IDs

Gun IDs NOWWWWWWW

[buoyant stream]

the FUNNIEST thing about that whole lie was that Limbus Angela announcer revealed that she was like "oh yeah of course Roland is really good at this he's a grade 9. Wait what do you mean grade 9 is the LOWEST grade?!??"

[stoic fjord]

Walp soon please I need FA&S Ryoshu

[stoic fjord]

This reminds me of that one comic where she's like

[faint pivot]

This was early Ruina tbf

[stoic fjord]

"Hrmm... so if he got demoted to grade nine... he must've been around grade 12 before! I should go ask Gebura what Grade color fixers usually are!"

[faint pivot]

The Aseah Sephrah wouldn't have any reason to have Fixer knowledge

[buoyant stream]

well yeah but i still think it was hilarious to drop that on us in the announcer

[faint pivot]

The assistants were probably too distant (if they were close enough to have any they wouldn't have been recruited)

[stoic fjord]

Angela feeling mortal terror as Grade 9 Fixer Finn rocks up

[faint pivot]

Ah I agree lmao

[vagrant dove]

Also Roland does manage to like

[buoyant stream]

Limbus announcers give us premium content in general to be honest

[vagrant dove]

Maintain the illusion until he starts getting read

[eternal gull]

unlike any one else, ricardocliff is simply so hot that his ops are set on fire just looking at him. Very true.

[stoic fjord]

Bro keeps going "Oh yeah, I knew that guy."

It was wholly unnecessary but he just does

[eternal gull]

THAT WAS AT 3 AM WHAT

[faint pivot]

Welcome to the backreading club

It's fun picking going through this channel in the future

[gentle mulch]

"Wow all fixers must be pretty connected..."

[faint pivot]

He has to give credit where it's due

[eternal gull]

tru

[buoyant stream]

i still think it was so funny how the whole time he goes "hey angela, are you SURE you dont regret doing what you did" and she just goes "nah, i'd do it again for 3 cents and a snickers"

i'm not blaming her but boy is Ruina dialogue hilarious to read in hindsight

[vagrant dove]

To be entirely fair, that's also very much Angela coping with it

[buoyant stream]

chekov's nuclear weapon arsenal

[faint pivot]

Chekov's Main Sequence Star

[gentle mulch]

Library of Ruina is a romcom

[vagrant dove]

Which is partly his outward behaviour rubbing off on her- that is that and this is this, after all

[gentle mulch]

The Worst Father Situation x The Worst Father Situation on the Other Side of It

[buoyant stream]

like what do you meeeeaaaannnn Purple Tear is namedropped in like the 2nd sentence

[vagrant dove]

It's still so funny to me that thats the roland line

Because his story is like

Proving that he just uses it as a defense mechanism to distance himself from the consequences of his actions and avoid dealing with his past healthily

[buoyant stream]

He's such a fake dgafer

[vagrant dove]

PM has many fake idgafers

Hohenheim my goat chief among them

[buoyant stream]

Turns out that no, you can NOT completely shut out the horrors.

You DO have emotions and you WILL experience them

[atomic steeple]

It's good when you are holding on but the enemies are kicking your ass (reindeers)

[buoyant stream]

yep

[eternal gull]

https://tenor.com/view/rien-limbus-company-limbus-company-ryoshu-gif-4871532323254637730

[eternal gull]

carmen trying not to (literally) haunt the narrative for 5 seconds (I love how she appears in the wiki as a guest appearance in canto ||6|| 😭)

[vagrant dove]

Haunting the narrative of 3 seperate games

+2 side stories

Like that's impressive

This shit ain't haunting, it's possessing the narrative atp

[gentle mulch]

There's so much shit haunting the narrative

[stoic fjord]

Nah he GAF he just resigned entirely to the prescripts

The HoS ain't even got an attempted IDGAFer lowk

[eternal gull]

my current favourite narrative ghost haunting the narrative is Bari

because she has a grand total of 2 scenes across 2 games

and she has a sick design

[eternal gull]

Matthias

a true IDGAFer

[faint pivot]

Don't forget the less-than-a-minute sequence she gets in Leviathan!

[stoic fjord]

Bro is like this because no one else cared the limited edition action figure he wanted was gone

Bro doesn't even approach fake IDGAFer

Deeply selfish, but he GAF

[eternal gull]

:D

[stoic fjord]

It feels like she's moreso haunting us than the narrative as a whole

[eternal gull]

genuinelly might have to make this my computer BG

[faint pivot]

Ma'am we're not even dead yet let us be

[eternal gull]

specifically us, the players, like real life people shes just haunting us

what did KJH mean by this

[stoic fjord]

"Bari is Wayfarer founder"
"Bari is a God of the city"
"Bari is-"

[faint pivot]

-# Bari deez nuts in yo mouth

[eternal gull]

a potential slayer of an impuritas civitas even roland couldnt beat-

[faint pivot]

Hey

You're right actually

Why did she just

Let La Manchaland fall

Like okay she didn't stand entirely idly

And I'm sure her butting in to save Don Senior is gonna sit poorly with him cause it'd involve hurting his family

But that's a suspicious lack of action from someone privy to both insane power and the ear of the head honcho now that I think about it...

[eternal gull]

Also like

how long has she been alive for

like 200+ years?!?

I assume they themselves found the mirror-lake and drank from it, hell I think they predate Hana association

infact there does seem to be a whole medieval era to the history of the city

marked with things like the four magical girls, the cutout story scenes of canto ||7||, etc.

rahh

[faint pivot]

I do not recall there being medieval references in Hongyuan

https://youtu.be/Lye6YA7LAis?si=t45tfE0VXaEnDHPq

R o d i g o r

[lean fjord]

I'm pretty sure Bari is immortal somehow

[faint pivot]

(Someone posted this strip here before but someone dubbed it!)

[eternal gull]

whoopsie I meant 7

[atomic steeple]

Ah, I wish I was home playing videogames

[eternal gull]

I venture to even say I think she's possibly capable of hopping mirror worlds
what evidence do I have for this?
None
literally nothing at all
i just feel it in my bones

[atomic steeple]

Need to get purple tear so hod can be stronger

[lean fjord]

PT is a great keypage

[faint pivot]

She's found a permanent place on NatSci for me

[lean fjord]

The funniest thing I got off once was PT Myongest on Yesod, with Chained Wrath
And then synchro'd into Freischütz

[bronze zephyr]

😭

[lean fjord]

they're coming, trust

[cloud wadi]

https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/archmage-curriculum/list?title_no=9884 this is pretty great urban fantasy

[stoic fjord]

Would G Corp Gregor or Priest Gregor be better for an NSault MDE solo

[bronze zephyr]

Priest Greg's passive is lust res

[keen palm]

https://www.tumblr.com/thinkoftheconchsequences/815126950477742080?source=share

It really is that shrimple.

-# #limbus company #limbusposting #limbus expanded #project moon

Tumblr · Apr 28, 2026, 8:40 AM

[stoic fjord]

Ahhh forgot

[atomic steeple]

Hm, yukari yakumo as rien
Reimu: You talk as if I'm going to stay
Yukari, with half her face burning and bleeding: Gensokyo doesn't have to end, darling

[split beacon]

I mean, Rien is an old ass unc...

[cloud wadi]

kira calls Rien by his name

probably indicates she considered him distant

as opposed to callisto with whom she has a tone of familiarity

[stoic fjord]

should I solo MDE with NSault, Index Yi Sang, Udjat Outis, or Jeong Office Rep Ishmael

wait nvm the only one I have proper E.G.O to use for this with is Yi Sang

[vagrant dove]

Trying to adapt Focus Fire into Limbus terms

The page

I think I can get the gist with an effect like [On Use], consume all [Ammo], per X ammo consumed gain +1 Base Power (max of 4)

[eternal gull]

idk why but like

I really like the ordeal of white fixer designs

I do hope they haven't been like retconned or forgotten

[worthy haven]

I mean we have seen one of them potentially in a recent canto

ish

[atomic steeple]

Yukari: Forcing you to stay will achieve nothing, yet I don't want to live with this empty regrer

[stoic fjord]

callbacks to them, at least

[worthy haven]

ye

although

[worthy haven]

||the hat dude in the canto 8 scene does look a LOT like the ordeal fixer||

[atomic steeple]

Has the best skincare in the city

[eternal gull]

????

when?!?

who?!?

[vagrant dove]

the aurafarming scene

[worthy haven]

canto 8 act 3 spoiler ||The hat guy on the right with the fixers does seem to have the same colour scheme and also the hat. The red one also could look like the red one but with horns||

[vagrant dove]

when ||jia qiu is talking about- yeah||

[eternal gull]

yoo good point

also this scene is such unbrearable aura

its just so fuckin PEAK

||you know its getting bad when ordeal fixers are coming||

[fickle crown]

Nothing more satisfying than watching Hook Lu carve ||Rufo|| alive for shits and giggles

Ngl, first phase almost caters to him

Unfortunately couldn't true solo the human fights...

Fauvists just do too much bleed on one sided attacks for me to feasibly keep Hong Lu alive

(me when the 50/6 bleed stack appears)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1111872562264297562/1496603318884237535/image0.gif

It is horrendous when you can't burn that all off

[eternal gull]

this entire intervallo was like

peakest lore

shittiest fights

[fickle crown]

||Ngl, killing Rufo with Hook Lu is also just really funny||

Also I love how Hook Lu's motions don't even look weird without the effects

Actually feels like an animation and not a bunch of stills

[vagrant dove]

finished cooking up my probably unbalanced skill

[fickle crown]

HOLY SHIT

[vagrant dove]

(for a thumb oc)

[fickle crown]

Wait NACL, have you seen my fucked up seven homebrew ID

[vagrant dove]

i think you told me about it

[vagrant dove]

the context of the skill is just like

[eternal gull]

raleigh is staring at me rn

[vagrant dove]

them firing every bullet in their revolver rifle at you

[fickle crown]

Tfw you see paralyze on S1 lmao

00 Seven Assoc. North Section 3 OC ID lmao

210 HP, 4-7 speed, DL 53

Stagger Thresholds: 60%/40%/20%

Slash Fatal, Pierce Ineff., Blunt Normal 

S1 - Flash Warning (Sloth)
Pierce
2 normal coins
Offense Level 56
5+3
Coin Power +1 for every 7 Rupture on target (max 2)
[On Use] If target has 15+ Rupture and 3+ Rupture Count: This skill does not consume Rupture Count On Hit, but does not inflict Rupture with this skill's On Hit effects.
I Spend 1 Photo Film
[On Hit] No HP damage is dealt
[On Hit] Inflict Paralyze next turn equal to this Coin's Power/2 (Max 3)
II [On Hit] Inflict 2 Rupture
[Heads Hit] Inflict +2 Rupture Count

S2 - Restrain (Wrath)
Slash
1 normal coin 
Offense Level 57
7+7
In a clash, opponent has -2 Clash Power
[On Use] Gain Clash Power equal to Rupture/3 (Max 5)
[On Use] If target has 15+ Rupture and 3+ Rupture Count: This skill does not consume Rupture Count On Hit, but does not inflict Rupture with this skill's On Hit effects.
[Clash Win] Inflict +2 Rupture Count
I [On Hit] Inflict 5 Rupture 
[On Hit] Inflict 2 Power Down next turn

S3 - Intelligence Relay (Gluttony)
Pierce
4 normal coins 
Offense Level 57
7+3
[On Use] If target has 15+ Rupture and 3+ Rupture Count: This skill does not consume Rupture Count On Hit, but does not inflict Rupture with this skill's On Hit effects; instead, gain Gain Coin Power +1
[Clash Win] Inflict 2 Clash Power down next turn
[Clash Win] Inflict 3 Rupture
I Spend 1 Photo Film
[On Hit] Inflict 2 Offense Level Down next turn
II Spend 1 Photo Film
[On Hit] Inflict 1 Plus Coin Drop next turn
III [On Hit] Inflict 3 Paralyze next turn
[On Hit] Inflict +2 Rupture Count
IV [On Hit] Inflict 2 Power Down next turn
[On Hit] Inflict 3 Rupture

Defense (Evade) - Analysis (Envy)
N/A
4+10
1 regular coin
Defense Level 53
[On Use] Gain +1 Clash Power Up next turn (2 times per turn)

[eternal gull]

proceeds to get fired from the thumb for pissing money down the drain:

[vagrant dove]

funnily enough

[fickle crown]

I think this was for uhh

Last season though so

OL/DL values are a little off

[vagrant dove]

sometimes you gotta spend money to make money

[eternal gull]

truu

gonna just start reading limbus when I make lancer enemies

[vagrant dove]

lorewise that's two flame ammo rounds

two shock rounds

one frost round

and one high explosive round

[eternal gull]

when attacked with this NPC their weapon cycles through 9 profiles and has the same number of attacks and all of them have reliable

[fickle crown]

I'm still not sure why it's kinda funny how we didn't get a polaroid camera ID for the seven association yet

[eternal gull]

the true unbreakable experience

[vagrant dove]

there is a tool for this if you ever want to transfer it

it's how i made mine

[fickle crown]

Oh, neat

Maybe I'll check it out later

Also funny plus coin down haha

Oh yeah, also ammo oriented passive

Other: This identity starts the Encounter with 7 Photo Film

Photo Film
- Unique Ammo
- 50% chance to not consume this Ammo with skills

Combat Passives
Flashing Lens
x5 Wrath Owned 
In a clash, the target has -1 Clash Power for every 3 types of negative status effects it has (Max -2 Clash Power)

Support Passive
Prepped and Ready
x6 Wrath Owned
The unit with the least or no Ammo gains 3 Ammo at the start of the next turn (twice per encounter)

I am still sad we don't have 00 IDs anymore...

[vagrant dove]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-rap-tf2-team-fortress-heavy-video-game-gif-16590706

it costs 400,000 ahn to fire this weapon

[fickle crown]

I bet at least one Thumb sottocapo does have a minigun lying around lmao

Not even shooting it, they just stick the barrels through you and spin them

[vagrant dove]

weapon would be vaguely similiar to this

[vagrant dove]

it is a shame

i do get why

but it is a shame

i do like the camera theming btw

[vagrant dove]

Cinq vs Thumb gunslinger duels trust

[fickle crown]

Thx!

Honestly I just thought it'd be the kind of association to have a portable flashbang

And yeah, Seven Keopi (maybe in a future where he does join the seven association) is built to basically be a clash monster

"Fuck you, clash power down" the ID

Maybe he does eventually join just because his investigative skills outweigh the whole fallen wing thing

[fickle crown]

Also this design fucks

[vagrant dove]

Yeah it's the Colt New Model Revolving Rifle

Design didn't work out irl

But it fits the Thumb I think

[main scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF2wjHLhbnw&t=18s

ganransu. ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Not even shooting it, they just stick the barrels through you and spin them

[atomic steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF2wjHLhbnw&t=18s

[lean fjord]

At least event welfare units should be 00 tbh

To make them cheaper to uptie

[stoic fjord]

Agreed

[gentle mulch]

yeah

event welfare should always be 00 given how much they

er

given how little they have

[lean fjord]

you can't even pull them normally anyway IIRC

[gentle mulch]

idk i always do the event currency

[crimson spindle]

ok all MDE cheevos done except clears

just gotta do another checks notes 31 times

[bronze zephyr]

ring meur..shuold havebeen..

heishou outis and sinclair

[fickle crown]

Except for chef Gregor

[fickle crown]

Like 50% of the Heishou roster should've been 00 IDs ngl

[bronze zephyr]

true

the heishou roster shouldve all been unique heishou but

its in the past now,

[fickle crown]

Like

[atomic steeple]

Wei adept don

[fickle crown]

Si Greg, You Sinclair, Wei Don, and the two generic Mao IDs just should've all been 00 IDs

[vagrant dove]

evil passive text

for this oc

vespa would fucking kill him (good)

[fickle crown]

I feel that 00s could've still had a niche in fodder-based teams like what we saw with Lord Lu

[bronze zephyr]

we could have had ox greg,, dog heath,, tiger outis,, dragon ryoshu,,

[fickle crown]

Also imo it probably was better to have less individual Heishou IDs

[bronze zephyr]

i just want to be able to tell them apart on the goddamn combat screen sdnfjkdsnfs

[vagrant dove]

i think we could have used greater diversity in design with heishou

I get the thematic meaning

[fickle crown]

While I get that it'd be cool to have one for every branch, having only some variety lets Lord Lu fit into different archetypes

[bronze zephyr]

being unable to tell Mao Outis from Mao Ryoshu is an inherent failure in character design but

[fickle crown]

Yeah I do hate that

I think it's kinda impossible honestly just because like

Heishou inherently wear a ton of super concealing clothes

[atomic steeple]

I keep forgetting they have mao ids

[fickle crown]

Very little face or hair showing

[bronze zephyr]

I facaded Mao Outis to W Outis and Mao Ryoshu to 7 Ryoshu

[vagrant dove]

i think embracing more of the packs would have really helped

[atomic steeple]

I wish we got r corp 2nd pack ids
And x corp too

[bronze zephyr]

yeah id dislike the heishou wei less if they were unique

[bronze zephyr]

yeah!! this too

[vagrant dove]

because Don and Yi Sang look distinct

the roosters too

[fickle crown]

I'm personally of the opinion that Lord Lu's design was unfortunately flawed from the start

[bronze zephyr]

Don and Yi Sang are differnt branches but yeah

this is true

[vagrant dove]

i meant in general because they're different packs it helps them look distinct

[bronze zephyr]

im a Far bigger fan of s7 than s6 designwise

Mm yeah

[vagrant dove]

meanwhile the mao are like

i can't tell them apart

[bronze zephyr]

I still think we shouldve gotten Dog Heath

[fickle crown]

Though I think part of what doomed him has to do with Mao Faust being a greedy bastard and ruining deathrites for everyone

[vagrant dove]

i think s8 did have really cool ids

[bronze zephyr]

this is also true

[vagrant dove]

it's just too many heishou with not enough distinction

no shade to anyone who uses heishou btw, this is just my personal opinion

[bronze zephyr]

yeah again if the heishou were distinct id like them a lot more
and if maost had been. nerfed lol

[fickle crown]

I'm of the opinion that S8 should've have more family IDs and Heishous could be released as secondary banner units

[bronze zephyr]

TRUUUUU

[atomic steeple]

S5 abd s7 have good designs

[bronze zephyr]

c8 couldve just had better IDs more in line with Lin Ryoshu

but

spilled milk and allat

[fickle crown]

Not say Season 6 is all bad but like

[vagrant dove]

season 6 isn't a bad season

[fickle crown]

Man, the Thumb IDs and Drifter Ryo were really the only standouts

[vagrant dove]

i think there is a fundamental issue

if nothings really standout

though

beyond a handful of ids

s5 had the bloodfiends

firefist gregor

cinq don

cassettisault

kurokumo heath and ish

cinqsault

s6 has a handful

[bronze zephyr]

yeah ID diversity was just better in seasons that werent s6, where Everything was One team that not everyone would wanna build

except Thumb

[stoic fjord]

I don't mind not getting random bumfuck hierarch games fodder but like. We could've gotten Night Drifter. And like. Zigong.

[vagrant dove]

again, I like a lot of s6 ids, but I think tying everything to Hong Lord was a bit of a mistake

[bronze zephyr]

i wouldve liked bumbuck hierarch fodder,.................

[atomic steeple]

The deathrite monks lady

[vagrant dove]

at least 1 unique heishou per branch

[bronze zephyr]

xue pan

[stoic fjord]

True

[vagrant dove]

xue pan my goat, he WILL be important again I trust

[stoic fjord]

He's not random bumfuck fodder though

[fickle crown]

Also like... I get Wei Sang is supposed to be there because he's canon BUT WHY NOT THIS GUYYYY!!! WE COULD'VE HAD SMOOOOKE

[stoic fjord]

He's charming and funny bumfuck fodder

[atomic steeple]

Id where the sinner is xue pan as a decapitated head on bug legs until they can get a new body

[bronze zephyr]

YEAH

[stoic fjord]

Okay true

[fickle crown]

Istg Yi Sang is a better fit for Wang Zhao

[vagrant dove]

now to be fair to season 6

bangers

but

[stoic fjord]

True

[fickle crown]

Yeah it's just

[stoic fjord]

Big fan of the N Corp Duo

[fickle crown]

Really regrettable most of the IDs were Heishou

[bronze zephyr]

mhm

[atomic steeple]

Yeah, love aweshu

[vagrant dove]

aweshu is like

i think my favourite ryoshu id until the capstone

its the id art

she's so auraful

[bronze zephyr]

Her design is fantastic yaeh

[vagrant dove]

mogging jia huan

[bronze zephyr]

im excited for like every ID in s7 which is awesome

[stoic fjord]

"What if Jia Huan but not chopped"

[stoic fjord]

Real

[vagrant dove]

to be fair to Huan, he's dragged down by gubo

my fraud agenda against Gubo will never cease

[bronze zephyr]

matthias outis, thumb duo, walp, seasonal ryo, ricardocliff,,

LMAO

i do wonder if we're getting a heishou for spring cultivation bok cuz that's kinda their last oppurtunity to give one to meur

[atomic steeple]

I need bad end ryoshu

[bronze zephyr]

real

[vagrant dove]

Night drifter id

🙏

[bronze zephyr]

fr

[vagrant dove]

Yes I know we have Driftshu but it isn't the same

[bronze zephyr]

ugh my crates

[fickle crown]

Also like... Canon things aside we've gotten IDs for people we've never fought or seen in combat before

[atomic steeple]

Starshu soon please

[vagrant dove]

Oufi Heathcliff

[bronze zephyr]

We Sort Of fought the oufi

i think

[vagrant dove]

We never actually see a single oufi member

Because they're ring guys in disguise

[atomic steeple]

Oh we need association ids too

[vagrant dove]

Dodeka association

I know this shit gonna be relevant in the Outis canto

[humble orbit]

im posting this here too

[bronze zephyr]

i want association IDs fr

one day we'll get 8 asso

[humble orbit]

eight association's headquarters are in district 26

they dont Exist

[vagrant dove]

We find out they're all monomaniacally fixated on sea life

[worthy haven]

Hey

[fickle crown]

I mean like story significant guys and gals for instance include IDs for Olga and Rain

[worthy haven]

We got semi 8th assoc IDs :3

[fickle crown]

Despite neither of them being ally units

[humble orbit]

which huh

[vagrant dove]

Ahab et al

[worthy haven]

Pequod

[bronze zephyr]

capt is nott an 8 association id

[humble orbit]

i guess pequod are. eight affiliated yeah

like. really distantly.

[worthy haven]

Well

Not distantly

Ahab is still wearing her 8th assoc hat

[bronze zephyr]

i still dont count em

[humble orbit]

just because i wear my former employee t-shirt from walmart does not mean i work at walmart

[vagrant dove]

She does have the 8th Assoc hat but yeah, not official members

[halcyon agate]

Hehehe found the pm den

[worthy haven]

Ye but at least we have more on them then like tres

[bronze zephyr]

hello o/

[humble orbit]

ahab was probably under the jurisdiction of 8 at some point, but is definitely not anymore

[vagrant dove]

Welcome to the cult, the robes are in the back /j

[bronze zephyr]

we literally dont

[lean fjord]

the thing is, adding more Deathrite would not meaningfully buff Maost either

[humble orbit]

we at least know what the tres do

they're the hana but for workshops

[bronze zephyr]

more deathrite would allow maost to ramp slightly faster

[lean fjord]

because it wouldn't really make her build much faster, and once she has stacks once she goes infinite anyway

[humble orbit]

god i fucking hate maost

[lean fjord]

you can already enable her as fast as possible anyway

[bronze zephyr]

maost should have been nerfed......................alas

[vagrant dove]

Maost is an albatross around rupture unfortunately

[lean fjord]

it doesn't matter

[vagrant dove]

But uhhh

[humble orbit]

maost needed nerfs so bad

maost NEEDS nerfs so bad

[cosmic gorge]

The sin of gluttony

[bronze zephyr]

they'll never do it, they tried and fans got so angry they didnt

[humble orbit]

maost 2 turn lei heng shenanigans fuck me dude

[bronze zephyr]

THATS WHY THE HEISHOU ARE GLUTTONY...

[lean fjord]

it's whatever, I just don't really care about her

[cosmic gorge]

Damn i forgot about the mysterious twink

[bronze zephyr]

anyway we are on to greener Finger pastures now

[stoic fjord]

tbf you can also do it with bleed

though also you can 3 turn Lei Heng with only Lord Hong and Maost iirc

so

[vagrant dove]

Lei heng being the testing ground for new ids is still so funny

[bronze zephyr]

morositas gaming

[vagrant dove]

Me pulling up in 5 years to 8-30 with the red mist id

[humble orbit]

when you 2-turn with bleed thats always just "We made his coin power 0 and then we forced him to clash while sanguine desire was up" thats not only expected but hilarious

[stoic fjord]

he's got a good healthpool, he doesn't have like, terrible health gates, he's funny to bully

[fickle crown]

I wish there was an option to fight him without morositas as a boss

Outside the MD

[stoic fjord]

lose turn 1

[bronze zephyr]

i should bully lei heng w only Ring Fau and Hong

[fickle crown]

I mean later on

[vagrant dove]

I also just realised that's sancho in your pfp lmao

[stoic fjord]

yeah that's fair

[worthy haven]

I mean yeah we know roughly what tres does due to ruina but in limbus tres was actually only mentioned a single time more then eight

[stoic fjord]

also fair

I think it's really funny that like

[fickle crown]

Like he could probably show up as one of the raid bosses since that mechanic has been introduced with a certain furry

[stoic fjord]

NSault is so shit he's good

[cosmic gorge]

The big baddie wolf yeah

[stoic fjord]

but then in MD/MDE he's genuinely just good

[worthy haven]

Oh wait mb rosepanner rodi actually does tell a bit

[bronze zephyr]

raid boss lei heng would be awewsome

[stoic fjord]

agreed

[stoic fjord]

NSault is genuinely goated

[bronze zephyr]

wonder if we're getting sweeper and or ricardo boss next week

[stoic fjord]

the attack power drop, the protection, the healing

[fickle crown]

I think we should get sweepers

[worthy haven]

But it lies very near that eight might do something along the logistics and vehicle side of things seeing as they seem to be a fusion of like the navy and the air force

[fickle crown]

We already have to fight the middle constantly in lux

[vagrant dove]

Since Lei Heng always wins thanks to his final healthgate provoking a scripted loss on our part

[cosmic gorge]

Raid boss big rick or truly endless sweeper wave

[stoic fjord]

I wonder if we'll ever see the sweeper mother

[fickle crown]

Also "fuck you" one billion coin reuses Disposal is funny

[bronze zephyr]

yeah sweepers are certainly more unique

[stoic fjord]

or if they have any intermediates beyond mother

[vagrant dove]

Does this mean he is stronger than the red mis-[gets great split horizontaled]

[fickle crown]

To be fair to Lei Heng and ourselves, the IDs are at best pale and depowered imitations of the people they're based off of

[vagrant dove]

Powerscaling jokes aside

[gentle mulch]

we would have this if mao faust / maost was nerfed

[cosmic gorge]

Coming to Purgatorio: Sweeper Matriarch Don Quixote ID

[humble orbit]

i heard we're getting reflectrial ricarod but i dont think thats confirmed or even implied

[fickle crown]

The contract actively weakens them too

[vagrant dove]

Sweeper lore would be so interesting

[stoic fjord]

THREE HUNDRED???

[gentle mulch]

yeah

[vagrant dove]

300 BOXES??

[gentle mulch]

how soon people forget

yup

[worthy haven]

And a roll refund

[humble orbit]

300 DUDE. 300.

[gentle mulch]

and an entire ROLL REFUND

[vagrant dove]

i could have bought so many ids with that

[stoic fjord]

oh my god

[stoic fjord]

that's

1 ID

still alot

[gentle mulch]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/533225113201411506?l=english

[stoic fjord]

but

[fickle crown]

Mannn fuck those people that said not to nerf maost

[vagrant dove]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-limbus-company-faust-heishou-faust-gif-18289989338197250926

[gentle mulch]

read the whole thing here

[bronze zephyr]

😭

[gentle mulch]

I STILL REMEMBER

[stoic fjord]

IT WASN'T EVEN A MAJOR NERF

[gentle mulch]

WE WOULD HAVE BEEN RICH

[stoic fjord]

SHE WOULD STILL BE CRAZY

[humble orbit]

thats not shards thats nominable shard crates
300 is 300-900 shards

[stoic fjord]

JUST NOT SO INSANELY BROKEN

[fickle crown]

Truly the gluttony season...

[stoic fjord]

...yeah, but it's an average of 600

so only about 1

[cosmic gorge]

Using mao faust as my character FC the next time i play a wizard in dnd 5e (if you know you know)

[humble orbit]

thats more than 1 by like quite a bit

[lean fjord]

it's like one and a half, but yeah

[bronze zephyr]

its like 1.5

regardless: i wish she'd been nerfed

[stoic fjord]

1 and an uptie 4 and savings for your next

[fickle crown]

Well 1 and room for an uptie 4 and potential threadspin 4

[humble orbit]

game wouldve been healthier too

[atomic steeple]

Maost boss in canto 12

[gentle mulch]

this was the nerf btwwwwwwww

THIS WAS THE ENTIRE NERF BTWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[bronze zephyr]

crying

[fickle crown]

Bruh

It literally just changes her wind up time lmao

[bronze zephyr]

dont remind me..what couldve been..

[humble orbit]

THE ONLY NERF WAS
SHE HAS. ONE INSTANCE OF A TURN NOW . THATS IT

[gentle mulch]

MAKING THE S3-2 LONGER TO BUILD UP TO

YEAH

THATS IT

[bronze zephyr]

its so painful

[gentle mulch]

WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN SO MUCH FROM SUCH A SMALL NERF

[humble orbit]

AND INSTEAD WE GOT TALISMAN SINCLAIR SHOT DEAD IN DETROIT, TALISMAN SHOT DEAD IN DETROIT, 2 TURN LEI HENG IRA BINGO BOINGUS BULLSHIT

[fickle crown]

Also Maost fucking dooming Tremor...

[stoic fjord]

"her enhanced extra strong skill is only once per turn and takes longer to build up to"

genuine community outrage

[gentle mulch]

NO CHANGES TO CLASH POWER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT

[fickle crown]

Okay tbf, that was inevitable

[bronze zephyr]

the only other nerfed IDs have been what, Ringsang and Talisclair?

[stoic fjord]

ok tbf Talisman Sinclair getting shot was pretty fair aiui

but also

Maost should've gotten nerfed

[fickle crown]

Talisman was genuinely fucking bad for future rupture gameplay

[gentle mulch]

same community that outraged over the ishmael diving suit release. a swarm of locusts on them all

[cosmic gorge]

Talisman Sinclair is why we got 15/3

[humble orbit]

most of the eng community didnt gaf so far as i recall it's that nerfing anything in a gacha game is a massive taboo in the kr/jp/ch communities

[cosmic gorge]

15/3 mfer

[stoic fjord]

they're still the community but also yeah

sighhhh

[bronze zephyr]

i wish the 15/3 IDs would be unshackled..

[gentle mulch]

sigghhhh yeah

[fickle crown]

Nah

[humble orbit]

kr/jp/ch community is also why The Vellmori Incident Happened can we like disown them

[fickle crown]

Cinq Meursault and a few others still retain a niche by not eating your count

So it's not all bad

[cosmic gorge]

I havent thought of jerma salt in ages

Ive thought of jerma recently in contrast

[bronze zephyr]

i like him

[humble orbit]

rip my glorious gnc king camille he did nothing wrong ever

[gentle mulch]

it pains me to this day how we could have seen more vellmori CGs if that didnt happen

[fickle crown]

Also ngl, I hope we get more retreat IDs with Devyat

[gentle mulch]

like

[fickle crown]

I genuinely think Devyat goes beyond the slander by proxy of them just having awesome initial uptime

[gentle mulch]

there's vellmori art of up to canto 10 iirc

[humble orbit]

i dont even blame pjm people were driving to the fucking headquarters and threatening violence man

[cosmic gorge]

Her rendition of rodya's crashout was peak

[gentle mulch]

IT WAS SO PEAK

[bronze zephyr]

sighhh

wheres my cigarette meme

[fickle crown]

Anyways uh... Sorry for Devyat ranting, I just like them and they're better discount Heishou imo

[gentle mulch]

oh i dont blame pjm at all for this. i fully resent the community for it

[humble orbit]

me when i 🤏

[gentle mulch]

i do wish retreat cycling was more of a non heishou thing

[bronze zephyr]

no i also love the devyat

[humble orbit]

me when i do that symbol one time

[gentle mulch]

🤏

[fickle crown]

We really need to have a ton more general IDs this season I swear to god

[bronze zephyr]

im gonna facade devyat rodya onto heishou rodya once the next reflectrial comes round

[cosmic gorge]

30-40 hours??

Wait wrong chat

[bronze zephyr]

I MISS STANDARD FARE IDS

[lean fjord]

Talisman needed to die

[gentle mulch]

i miss 00s.....

talisman needed to die

[lean fjord]

he was a bigger issue than Maost

[fickle crown]

Standard fare are also bangers in the modern day

[gentle mulch]

talisman needed to get shot like that. 100%

[bronze zephyr]

talisman needed to die

[atomic steeple]

Police was doing shit. Acab
Fucking mysogynists in S. Korea

[humble orbit]

feel so fucking bad for kjh dude. the entire asian community of limbus sees it as a gacha game and not as an extension of a pre-existing setting and as a result hes been having. A Time. and so has the entire company

[fickle crown]

Talisman shooting is on the same level as the assassination of JFK

[lean fjord]

well it is a gacha game

[humble orbit]

talisman sinclair's passive did but i feel like the status itself was cool and good as long as it wasnt being given out to everyone

[lean fjord]

that PMoon is kinda bad at running a gacha doesn't really change that

[stoic fjord]

tbh I know a decent amount of people who are normal it's just that a good amount are fucking chuds

we need to obliterate chuds

[bronze zephyr]

yeah the bad eggs will always be louder

[humble orbit]

send all chuds to hell for all eternity

[atomic steeple]

Fill standard fare with R corp, W corp and association ids

[stoic fjord]

true

[gentle mulch]

it would be fair to say that KJH should have known the market he was getting into to "fund the Project Moon anime" but at the same time the market should absolutely fucking NOT be that way in the first place

[atomic steeple]

Rodya crashout?

[humble orbit]

give us standard fare IDs so gregor can get 2 more IDs in a season and reveal that this was actually his canto all along

[fickle crown]

Okay but what if... Wayfarer ID for next intervallo

Charge revival

[humble orbit]

charge revival

[gentle mulch]

hohenheim is charge revival

[fickle crown]

Actually Wayfarer Corp IDs would go fucking hard

[gentle mulch]

but yes we need an actual charge team instead of 6 IDs and Gregor

[stoic fjord]

give us Alan

[bronze zephyr]

yeah i despise gacha as a type of game that exists but idk what would happen w limbus if it as a market died

[vagrant dove]

I do think a lot of this is a bit too far, mainly becaus there are toxic as fuck aspects to any community EN or not and there are a fair amount of western fans who see limbus as a non-pre existing setting

It's just the gender wars in Korea are fucked and that means that the small portion of incels you unfortunately have in the depths of any fanbase (especially gacha games due to the Genre) are more militant

[fickle crown]

Charge Rupture except they can actually sustain their rupture

[atomic steeple]

No
Wayfarer is not cool like warp corp

[bronze zephyr]

wayfarer IDs for Twining BokGak would slap

[worthy haven]

PJM please just give me a single mention of district 15/ O corp. It is like the only corp/district outside Z that has never been mentioned in any city lore. ACTUALLY cut that. It has been at least mentioned that a District 26/Z exists

[humble orbit]

i cant wait for wayfarer to be revealed to be the guys that made the smoke blue

[stoic fjord]

I don't like gacha but also there are games I like that I like that are Gachas, mainly Limbus

[fickle crown]

I can unfortunately see it with another ID set aside for the bird fauvist

[cosmic gorge]

The part where she kills the tax collector

[gentle mulch]

limbus is basically the only gacha i can stand so far

[humble orbit]

syhe blue on my smoke til i abraxas chariot

[stoic fjord]

and I like the feeling of giving money to KJH every season

[fickle crown]

Yeahhh

[humble orbit]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[stoic fjord]

I'm doing my part to fund the Limbus Anime /hj

[humble orbit]

"bad at managing a gacha" = "i dont want to break into your house and steal your wallet"

[stoic fjord]

it's the first one, my second one currently is GFL 2

[bronze zephyr]

i can only stand limbus cuz its so generous and every character is obtainable

[stoic fjord]

but idk how long that'll last

[worthy haven]

Wait double checking something. I forgot we got kinda hard confirmation that Z Wing exists

[stoic fjord]

Limbus however I do genuinely just like

[bronze zephyr]

ive played. hi3rd, hsr, genshin, arknights, umamusume, and ive dropped all of them cuz holy god i hate gacha

[cosmic gorge]

Zlorp Corp

[atomic steeple]

Arknights was fun, but has annoying fomo
Also the smart fans are nasty at the possibility of you getting lore wrong, which ruined my enjoyment of the game

[bronze zephyr]

arknights has. So much content

[fickle crown]

I think what also helps is that Limbus has meme potential just off of the absolutely scuffed livestreams and el director appearances

[bronze zephyr]

which is good but overwhelming

[stoic fjord]

I quit WuWa after getting 50/50ed on Phrolova by THE WORST DPS IN THE ENTIRE GAME

[worthy haven]

I forget he mentioned it but Herbert explicitly told us Z exists

[stoic fjord]

it tilted me so much

[humble orbit]

i considered getting into arknights, saw how much shit there was, and then saw how aggressive much of the fandom was and i instantly went "ok fuck his"

[vagrant dove]

Vellmori absolutely did not fucking deserve to be forced out and these people suck ass, to be clear, I just think that blanket referring to the JP/KR/CN community isn't really uhhh

Cool? It just feels uncomfortable

And yeah, Limbus is the only gacha game I can stand

[bronze zephyr]

might watch the anime cuz ive got friends who really like arknights

[fickle crown]

I quit Honkai Star Rail... Like. It was just really fucking boring lmao

[stoic fjord]

yeah that's fair

[vagrant dove]

I used to play Genshin

[bronze zephyr]

seconding, eng fans can be fucking rancid

[gentle mulch]

ngl

[fickle crown]

Also no pull tickets

[neat cedar]

AK fandom.can be awful yeah

[fickle crown]

I did get Adventurine at least but y'know

[stoic fjord]

Limbus, I think, has issues, both as a game and a community, but the issues as a game I'm willing to accept and as a community it's like.

fuck idk I just avoid everyone outside of here

[vagrant dove]

One of my great mistakes

[gentle mulch]

the idea of "new characters" instead of alt characters just kinda bores me with how much depth we get into limbus' cast

[stoic fjord]

REAL

[bronze zephyr]

real

[worthy haven]

I enjoy limbus, I enjoy AK and I still absolutely cherish my time with the highest points of FGO

[atomic steeple]

People I am friends with were being nasty
Unpleasant time
Made a character idea, clarified I know that isn't how things work in canon, and still got corrected

[bronze zephyr]

its what i appriciated ab Hi3rd

[stoic fjord]

the thing about so many gacha games is leaving characters behind sucks

like

[fickle crown]

All I know is that I was right to leave the PM server years ago out of disinterest

[gentle mulch]

we get so much fucking insight into our sinners in Limbus through the ID system i just cannot bear other gacha unit systems

[neat cedar]

oof, that sucks

[bronze zephyr]

same, every time i go into PMCH its toxic and unmoderated

[stoic fjord]

WuWa started to lose me when we left the Black Shores because I was leaving my favorite character behind lorewise

whereas like

with Limbus

YI SANG IS HERE THE ENTIRE TIME WOOOOOOO

I CAN PUT HIM ON EVERY TEAM WOOOOOOOO

[bronze zephyr]

yeh

[fickle crown]

Also I fucking hate it when they glaze the shit out of John cardboard cutout protag unprompted like

STOP SUCKING MY COCK

LEMME PROVE MYSELF FIRST

[stoic fjord]

essentially Limbus fixes all of the base issues I have with gachas beyond having to stick my hand in the magic box

[bronze zephyr]

dante being a character is very nice

ye

[neat cedar]

Dante being a character who sucks is nice

[stoic fjord]

I love how everyone doubts Dante at the start

like

[neat cedar]

and even though they're getting better

[humble orbit]

only reason im in pmch is because i like getting pinged for updates and i steal peoples memes from it

[neat cedar]

they still

kinda suck

[gentle mulch]

dante being the shuckaroonies kill them all manager is lovely

[vagrant dove]

There are aspects of the world I like

[keen palm]

Every Fandom is awful

[vagrant dove]

But the game generally? Not fun for me

[gentle mulch]

pjm has such good writing AUUUUUGGGGGH

[vagrant dove]

Also Natlan

[neat cedar]

Genshin ia a fine game in parts

[stoic fjord]

on a larger scale every fandom is awful

small communities can work

[neat cedar]

but buult.on a fucked foundation

[bronze zephyr]

yeah i quit hsr cuz the writing went downhill after belobog

[neat cedar]

HSr has a better foundation

but fucked i5

[bronze zephyr]

I was in the dsmp fandom when i was 15, ive seen it all

[fickle crown]

Dante being a loser just makes them so much more motivating when they do get victories vs "oh yeah they were guaranteed to win this". Like. No. Dante is as incompetent as the rest of the sinners and this band of chucklefucks bumbles through every situation they're thrown into and only coming out because they're immortal

[neat cedar]

it's just a bad jrpg

[stoic fjord]

REAL

[stoic fjord]

I like that we're also like

not unique

or like

[humble orbit]

i love that they says shuckaroonies unironically hes such a loser

[stoic fjord]

okay we're not immediately unique

like

[bronze zephyr]

they

[neat cedar]

this i personally disagree with

[atomic steeple]

The powercreep and new classes without identity were the straw for me

[humble orbit]

shit sorry

[stoic fjord]

Dante, they're someone important, or were but also

[vagrant dove]

My minecraft yter phase was likw early 2010s

[neat cedar]

the pacing absolutely shat the bed thougg

[vagrant dove]

DanTDM et al

[stoic fjord]

rn they're a fucking loser

[humble orbit]

my brain defaults to "He" on the name dante because i think of Devil May Cry

[stoic fjord]

fair lol

[fickle crown]

Oh, that sucks. Yeah, with me I just didn't like the gameplay because it was shit

[humble orbit]

despite the fact that i know dante is they/them

[vagrant dove]

The coolest fucking shit for my like, 12 year old brain

[bronze zephyr]

Yeah

[humble orbit]

or She/Her in the case of the library one

[stoic fjord]

Dante is competent enough but only for the sinners

[humble orbit]

dante is very competent emotionally and a fucking idiot in all other regards it's 10/10

[fickle crown]

Oh yeah, also the fact Dante got fucking attacked that one time

[stoic fjord]

and also like generally i like that we barely make it

or get carried sometimes

[bronze zephyr]

i still need to play dmc, might start with 1 and go thru them all cuz 1 and 2 are bundled with 3 anyways

[stoic fjord]

true

good at therapying the sinners

[neat cedar]

amd even that emotional.compotence can fuckin flatline sometimes

like with beach event

[humble orbit]

they're good at managing and therapying the sinners. sometimes.

shuckaroonies

[atomic steeple]

Lmao zzz breaking its own premise to give mcs powers

[fickle crown]

Dante unconscious on the ground is hilarious, my point stands

[stoic fjord]

and also micromanaging them like the Lob Corp manager micromanages L5 Employees during an ALEPH breach

[stoic fjord]

dude that pissed me off so much

it's genuinely making me so mad

[neat cedar]

the MC has always had powers?

like

[stoic fjord]

just knowing it was coming up made me drop it

[fickle crown]

Also the fact you can tell which sinners are which in this picture just off of the shoes is great

[humble orbit]

i legitimately hate when people say dante is ayin. ayin could never be this much of a loser he takes himself WAY too seriously

[stoic fjord]

right but now they're going to be directly involved in combat and such

[neat cedar]

the entire premise is that they were hooked up.to some.funky 3xperimebtal tecg

[bronze zephyr]

oh im glad i didnt get into zzz

[neat cedar]

ni they're not

they're getting a new being that fighta with then

like a stand

[fickle crown]

Ayin the motherfucker to doxx and SWAT someone for slandering his shitass opinions

[stoic fjord]

...okay so apparently everyone has lied to me

[neat cedar]

less lied

more.misunderstood

it seems to be some.wtheric being formed from all the ether we absirbed after learbing twchniques from Waifei sunmit

[stoic fjord]

idk either way I liked them more as the duo managing things from the Chair and directing those they were working with

[neat cedar]

mighr have something to do with the mayor did to us

[stoic fjord]

it was a nice change from everything else

[neat cedar]

might be a part of helios's tecg we didn't know about

[humble orbit]

STUPID IDIOT MOTHERFUCKING AYIN "X" GOD DAMN FOOL EXPERIMENT COLLECTING DUST EATING RAT FUCK BASTARD SHITHEAD IDIOT CEO OF L CORP BIGGEST CLOWN IN THE CIRCUS LAUGHED OUT OF TOWN COWBOY MOTHERFUCKING AYIN

[fickle crown]

I am

[stoic fjord]

idk I haven't played past chapter... idk tbh. 2? 1?

[bronze zephyr]

this was so funny god

[gentle mulch]

mf who gets scared of uppies btwww

[vagrant dove]

Re Ayin, one thing that does annoy me is when people flatten Hokma's character into just being obssessed with Ayin

[bronze zephyr]

jurgen leitner...............

[humble orbit]

paypal.com/ihateayin

[neat cedar]

they're still, ultinately, doing just that i believe

[split beacon]

I love Dante as a character, they're a disoriented moron adjusting to the city a lot of the time but their sheer competence at doing their god damn job is absurd

[bronze zephyr]

i wish i understood binah's arc in lobcorp sdfsf

[stoic fjord]

ok good that works

[neat cedar]

one in the hollow and one piloting eous

and pyrosis

[atomic steeple]

Remember when dante got embarrassed by the ting tang gang and wanted them dead

[humble orbit]

what arc

[stoic fjord]

they're good at 2 things total but those 2 things are good enough for the LCB

[neat cedar]

ia the name of one of the horses of phaethon'a chariot

[fickle crown]

Yeah, Hokma/Ben had a ton of faith in both Ayin and Carmen and I think he genuinely thought that Ayin was the best chance for L-Corp to achieve its goal. It's why he was so blindly devoted imo

[neat cedar]

same.as eous

[humble orbit]

can you send this incident i forgot it even happened

[neat cedar]

which leads me to believe it is indeed a seperate being that we pilot like eous

[gentle mulch]

consistently pulling bough fueled colormagic because theyre gaming their mind out against opponents outside of the bus weight class

[neat cedar]

amd thus we might get two.more

[fickle crown]

I mean there's also maybe some homoerotic context to Benjamin's faith but yeah...

[neat cedar]

because the chariot of Helios has 4 steeds

[atomic steeple]

From what I got, she's traumatized and clinging to her sadism for control abd identity

[worthy haven]

Man I am really crashing over the realisation that Z/26 has been mentioned while O/15 hasn't. My obsession with O grows stronger everyday. Surely they will be mentioned soon 😭

[humble orbit]

"context" no thats just all that it was .it was just so gay. theres not really any religion there he just wanted to kiss ayin on the mouth sloppy

[vagrant dove]

He's much more reflective in LoR as well, and he's very much trying to get Angela to come to a Realization about the harn she's causing dare I say

[atomic steeple]

Canto 2

[vagrant dove]

Also yeah there is no straight explanation

[split beacon]

it's pretty straightforward, Binah's arc is more or less that she's a monster and she knows and embraces it

[vagrant dove]

Please get better taste in men hokma

[split beacon]

or, well, she believes that

[humble orbit]

well yes obviously but my question is like what node

[bronze zephyr]

mk ic
sometimes PM's prose is hard for me to parse lmao

[fickle crown]

Bro just likes the thrill of a man that could kill him at any time

[split beacon]

but her "role" in her own eyes is to stand not in judgment but in observation of others

to understand

and to evaluate

[worthy haven]

She be arbiterin

[atomic steeple]

How will I know off the top of my head
It's when they rob the gang for clothes

[vagrant dove]

Like his whole Lobcorp arc is so relatable

Because it's a man desperately

desperately

[humble orbit]

i hate ayin so fucking much you have no idea

[vagrant dove]

Trying to cling to the past

[split beacon]

and what she wants in LobCorp is for you to prove that you have what it takes, morality be damned, to follow through and make her torture and the suffering of the Sephirah all worth it

[humble orbit]

ayin is literally my #1 most hated motherfucker in history i hate him so god damn much

[vagrant dove]

Who hasn't wanted things not to change?

[split beacon]

it's also why she won't stand in judgment of Angela

she sees Angela, understands her, and says "your claim to the Light is as worthy as Ayin's"

"Go ahead. I'll support you if no one else will."

[fickle crown]

Also the fact his core suppression speeds you to something almost ludicrous adds to the fact he feels things have gotten so out of control at that point

[atomic steeple]

Binah: I do not interfere, I only do my role
Binah between lob corp and LOR: ||I'm helping angela rebel to follow her dreams||

[split beacon]

no no

she's not interfering, she's just like

balancing the scales a little

allowing all the worthy and valid claims to be taken and seen to their logical ends

she embodies the virtue of understanding

[vagrant dove]

Worst father in the city, and that is a title with steep fucking competition, especially after Canto 9

[split beacon]

her wisdom is that of not standing in judgment, but in facilitating and permitting

[humble orbit]

im going back through canto 2 to see if i can find when datne literally told. everyone to kill the tingtangs cause he got embarassed and i forgot how mean outis was oh my god

she used to be so fucking mean

[humble orbit]

at least matthias wasnt a sex pest

[atomic steeple]

The rare centrist who supports the disadvantaged

[split beacon]

Basically, Binah is on a firm no kink shaming basis and supports you doing whatever you want so long as she isn't explicitly picking a side

[stoic fjord]

what

[fickle crown]

Tbf, Outis is both military and just watched Dante make several tactical fuckups in about five seconds

[worthy haven]

Since we are talking about it I forgot but did we ever get an explanation for the Benjamin/hokma difference?

[split beacon]

Ayin wasn't a sex pest...?

like jokes about Ayinvision aside

[humble orbit]

its an ayinvision joke yes

[stoic fjord]

tbf Outis is an experienced military veteran and Dante was still a bumbling idiot then

[humble orbit]

but like can we be real thats weird as fuck

[split beacon]

it's not a real thing

[atomic steeple]

The one true centrist

[split beacon]

Ayin vision is just a joke about the weird art style shift

[fickle crown]

Ayin was definitely not in love with Carmen either. At least from my understanding, he was under the impression Carmen's way was the only true solution to what he viewed as a fatal disease in the city

That and I think he was just

Empty

Like to a severe degree

Everything Ayin does is for other people tbh

[vagrant dove]

I think he was obssesed with Carmen as sort of

[split beacon]

oh he's a textbook sociopath but like actually

[vagrant dove]

Carmen the Symbol

[fickle crown]

Ayin's obsession with Carmen was probably the only thing anchoring him to this reality following the creation of the script and the 50 days

[humble orbit]

either way i just hate ayin so fucking much i . oh my god. even if u ignore the ayinvision bit and view it solely as a meta joke i HATE HIM SO MUCH HES SO FUCKING WEIRD!!!! HES SO FUCKED UP AND HORRIBLE IN SO MANY WAYS GOD I HATE HIm