#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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bronze zephyr
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where she Isnt a ceo, but

ebon forge
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I'm gonna limbus today...

bronze zephyr
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Sign of Roses Sonya or MFE Sonya N Corp EGO.......

fluid whale
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definitely Sign, I'm still on Ya Sunyata Ahab

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I wonder if we see uhh

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Crushbound Past N Corp employees

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like the Sticking ones in the Fraud Duo fight

keen palm
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I would love Ya Sunyata Ahab

fluid whale
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I feel like it fits so much with the whole 'using others as tools' as well as the theming around cycles of escalating vengeance

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Telepole would also be valid for N Corp EGO gear, right? we've never encountered it in our facility and it was on line 1?

bronze zephyr
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Yeah the Abnos we havent encountered in story are:

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My Form Empties
Alleyway Watchdog
Headless Ichthys
Sleeping Bag
KQE
Portrait
Dreaming Sheep
King in Binds
Steam Transport
Sign of Roses
Blubbering Toad
Schadenfreude (special case tho)

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and Contempt Fluchschutz and the Fairy Duo iirc

fluid whale
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oh wow there are a lot of good ones for Nelly in there

bronze zephyr
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Yeh, Sleeping Bag, Binds, Portrait

fluid whale
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and Steam Transport going off its event in md

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+her being from T Corp

bronze zephyr
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Telepole even

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oh interesting

main scaffoldBOT
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Sounds like something “Saint Sonya” would use

ebon forge
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im changing my md teams back to mono for the most part

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dual status is just too jank

cosmic gorge
faint pivot
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And extreme ofc

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You just don't get enough gifts to start the engine otherwise

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Even moreso with triples

faint pivot
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I'm misremembering, do we meet Fairy Gentleman in canto 3? Or was that just its EGO gear

mystic ermine
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diiid anyone catch any wind of the ID kit?

atomic steeple
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cute

atomic steeple
hybrid lynx
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we're on ricardo's level now

vagrant dove
atomic steeple
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Dante doesn't get how they can even run territory
Funny idea they might just get supplanted by the yurodivy

hybrid lynx
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i can't believe we've been using the HAIR COUPON MAN as a measuring stick for how far we've come

vagrant dove
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I love the fact he just

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Changes the battle music

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Can't wait for the Geb id to do that as well lmao

atomic steeple
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There's a fic where rampaging roland was constantly avoidning thinking about how he wished he had died with his family, and was jsut taking it all out on everyone else
Anytime the thought came up, it was crossed out and he pivoted
"Ah, these annoying guys on the bus delayed me from dying with my family saving them, I'll get revenge on them to"

vagrant dove
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Also he does a lot of extra attacks

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Including a random s3 if he substitutes in

atomic steeple
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This
Ricardo: All of you who turned your backs on the middle
I think ricardo's hair insecurities might play into this. The middle having a constant sense of being seen as lesser and being abandoned, so they cling to each other and attack all slights

vagrant dove
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Yeah it's very much fear of everyone outside the family potentially Looking Down on them

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Which is also why I think they hunt down people who leave

atomic steeple
vagrant dove
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Second adept id /j

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But yeah it's an interesting kit

atomic steeple
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Also, actual snake eyes on heathcliff. Body mod, perhaps? Like the red eyes aguments

cosmic gorge
sudden arch
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Burn season is real pogchamp

vagrant dove
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The Rodya ego is also cool

cosmic gorge
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ricardocliff looks like a mid 90's thuggish shonen side character

vagrant dove
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Heals SP and HP

cosmic gorge
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Fluid Sac, meet Dry Umbrella

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also

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burn

vagrant dove
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Also the heal scales

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X allies up to Lust Res

atomic steeple
vagrant dove
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Her greed...

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It sickens me

atomic steeple
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For artist rodya, this ego and valencina

vagrant dove
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It also looks really pretty, I love that she's Mary Poppinsing it

atomic steeple
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Also, gotta nab the middle identities, I guess, I already have the old middle identities, and the new ones really boost the team

vagrant dove
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I have MidDon and Midsault

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As well as Kira

atomic steeple
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Wish we had middle rodya, her hex nail is agood addition to the team

vagrant dove
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We'll get MidOutis, which should have good synergy with the seasonal ego

cosmic gorge
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thinking about leveling her too for the purple team

vagrant dove
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Breathing room with the conversion of resources

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Which MidCliff also does

atomic steeple
mystic ermine
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HEY

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HHHEEEY

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HE IS HEEEREE

neat cedar
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very nice way tou round off the middle team we have rn

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and then we still have

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outis to go

vagrant dove
stoic fjord
# vagrant dove

Okay so he can replace NClair, but he's not actually a tremor unit because it's his S3-2

vagrant dove
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Yeah

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I think we'll have to wait for Luciocliff to get a tremor unit

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That isn't oufi

cosmic gorge
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its funny we get loud and hunky heath before we get somber and twinkish heath this season

vagrant dove
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He contains multitudes

neat cedar
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damn i just saw a meme about this the ither day

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two kinda of heath

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Super Gigachad

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or depressed Hobo

hybrid lynx
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he either balls or breaks

faint pivot
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Hold

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BURN?

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
vagrant dove
stoic fjord
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I would go Liu Sang

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And then the other one idk, probably someone who can still envy res, no one else who can slot in has an envy S3

vagrant dove
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Liu rodya with Hex Nail

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(?)

stoic fjord
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Waiting for Valencina Rodion first

vagrant dove
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Since that would work well with MidOutis and Wanna Play

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Until valrodya drops

stoic fjord
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Yup

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So excited for Thumb Tremburn...

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Possibly enabling bleed burn poise...

atomic steeple
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Another thing for middle and envy is that envy is associated with being made to feel small and vulnerable, which plays into the middle's victim complex
Heathcardo probably feels powerless about being robbed lol?

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"I understand you hindley. Let's be sad about the violin and coupons together"

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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Being robbed and having the thieves escape via colour fixer fiat

atomic steeple
vagrant dove
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If we assume the story goes the same as our world

stoic fjord
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Actual deus ex machina

atomic steeple
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Oh man, cathy would squee at the kitty diary

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
# stoic fjord Dude that would make me genuinely seethe

I'd be pissed too

I mean Ricardo/MidCliff's actions were of course wildly disproportionate, as befits the Middle, but in general having a colour fixer just show up and throw a harpoon through your shoulder would not be Ideal

cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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Can't believe those heinous coupon thieves left it on the floor

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Is there no justice in the world

stoic fjord
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Truly an awful, awful thing...

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But the Middle shall distribute a most righteous justice!

-don quixote, probably

vagrant dove
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Also btw

Matthias talking abt his bro ricardo is like

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So much funnier in context

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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Dawg the middle hates you because you are a living testament to the hollowness of their creed

stoic fjord
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The only cut worse than yours is the one ||you gave to Kira||

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Show up and I will KILL you

atomic steeple
vagrant dove
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Oh wait, speaking of Ricardo

We're gonna get to hear the Shi Yihua Moment voiced

stoic fjord
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YEAHHHHHHH

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Anyways... Jia Qiu announcer... I need it.. please..

cosmic gorge
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he will SWEEP us off our feet

vagrant dove
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He said something so audacious the Big Brother tried to tear out his jaw

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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I love Yihua, he's such an archetypical asshole noble

cosmic gorge
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hyped to hear gap moe outis again

vagrant dove
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He thinks he's so fucking smart and then the moment like, he oversteps he forces poor zilu to help him

cosmic gorge
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"manager did you really think i would betray you 🥺 "

faint pivot
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I thought you were talking about Ricardo

vagrant dove
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(Not that she had a choice given Ricardo's kill everyone order)

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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But no Heathcliff does this too LMAO

stoic fjord
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No one fucking else would ever do that shit

faint pivot
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Holy hell

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Heathcardo preventing the other Middlers from staggering...

cosmic gorge
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deeply funny to me that in that one sinner ship fan survey (which i think only covers reddit so you know,), outis has the least number of sinner to sinner ships bc ostensibly people want to ship themselves with her

stoic fjord
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Fuck, bro, I woulda just handed his ass to Ricardo 😭

cosmic gorge
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stops you from staggering during pushups

stoic fjord
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It's like the blunt t4 gift

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Hum, I guess this is another instance of a Sinner excelling in the shoes of our enemies

vagrant dove
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Hong lord is a horrible person but he really clock's shi yihua's shit lmao
"Behold the fool, the jester; he hollers empty skyward boasts, yet heaven remains just as unreachable."

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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I'd say a lot of the reason he sucks is to be found in the Heishou ids

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Cockclair and SiRodya chief among them

faint pivot
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Well, his actions caused good, but whether he himself is a good person is very questionable

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Cause yeah

stoic fjord
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But also yeah that's fair

faint pivot
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The Heishou are more or less slaves and he's working them to the bone for Hongyuan

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Hell even if the Leash didn't exist and they were treated like regular fixers they're still dehumanized like hell

faint pivot
stoic fjord
vagrant dove
stoic fjord
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"What if I gambled my entire population in my endless quest to purge all evil from the world"

vagrant dove
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Like that is going to kill a lot of people because Lord Hong Lu does not know when to stop

faint pivot
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True, but I feel him neglecting to address the lackluster care the You branch are given by their Xianren is bigger

cloud wadi
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Heathcliff

stoic fjord
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Okay so... not good intentions... good outcomes that he was fully willing to throw away later... hrm

cloud wadi
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Punch so devastating

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It sets people on fire

faint pivot
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How do historians remember his time as a golden age

stoic fjord
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I wonder if his single coiners can be re-used... surely not?

stoic fjord
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I forget specifics

faint pivot
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Did he die before the wing war fell through-ah

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So it's vague

stoic fjord
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Aiui

faint pivot
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Ah

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Well

cloud wadi
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It’s vague

faint pivot
faint pivot
stoic fjord
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I'm still willing to say that he is not like. evil evil so much as so deeply disgusted by what he sees as evil that he's completely blinded to any sort of kindness he might've had

faint pivot
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...ah, and Magic Bullet Outis

cloud wadi
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He’s a ruthlesss pragmatist

vagrant dove
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I'd probably argue it's meaningless to the people that get trampled in the process

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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He's part of the City now, even as he tries to fight it

cloud wadi
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He sees a goal

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And he strives for it in the most direct path possible

faint pivot
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Brother backpedalled so hard he outsped Maost

vagrant dove
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I see LHL as basically an indictment of like, the Great Ruler (also a mix of Jia Huan's bitter, seething resentment and a Jia Qiu without his Meditation era)

stoic fjord
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Bro heard "we must have humanity and cultivate a better world" and went "FUCK THAT WE NEED TO KILL PEOPLE"

faint pivot
cloud wadi
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Hongyuan could use more dead bodies

faint pivot
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Thanks for the assist Zilu

vagrant dove
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Like the Xianren suck, but I don't think it's an accident that Jia Xichun spends time learning not to do the things he does

stoic fjord
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Also that Jia Qiu decides that the path of Asura is one that must be avoided

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After seeing Jia Baoyu's act of desperation to try and extend a hand to help anyone at all

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Despite his position of comfort

faint pivot
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Hm, that fight was broadcasted right?

stoic fjord
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Think so, yes

faint pivot
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I wonder how people felt about IDs

vagrant dove
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The bloody eye that never stops weeping is so symbolic, because the Lord of Hongyuan is going to keep carving that path

faint pivot
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And the Jia Mirror Match

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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Me (a random backstreets hooligan) pulling up to the bus and seeing the full House of Spiders crew exit

cloud wadi
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Meanwhile

cloud wadi
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The Eye supposedly has more abilities than just being 24/7 live-streaming service

stoic fjord
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"Oh no nvm"

vagrant dove
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Endgame is gonna be like

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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I don't think you'd recognize the HoS but you would recognize the weight of 5 Stars of the City ready to flog you in a nanosecond

vagrant dove
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Two arbiters, both black silences, the red mist

faint pivot
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Red Gaze

stoic fjord
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I'm genuinely all in on Red Mist Rodion

vagrant dove
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Red Mist Rodion works really well

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backstreets born person who fundamentally wants to protect people

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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Also Mimicry Axe would go hard

vagrant dove
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In kali's case it was because her neighbours turned on her because the city is a crab bucket

stoic fjord
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In Rodion's case it was a bit more self-inflicted, in a sense

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I still think it'd fit

faint pivot
vagrant dove
stoic fjord
# stoic fjord I still think it'd fit

Again especially with the whole "being special" thing and the Red Mist genuinely just not having a gimmick

She just hits you so hard you die and explode

vagrant dove
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Like rodya you are the first egotist

faint pivot
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So in a way, this is also self-inflicted

stoic fjord
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Because she's not particularly unique

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She's just... strong

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And we see how she doesn't even seem to care about that with KoDya

faint pivot
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Hmm yes

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The Strongest being not unique

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Literal superlative

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I would agonize over Rodya still being sad about not being special in her Red Mist ID

stoic fjord
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Red Mist Rodion lock in. They talk about you like fucking Gojo

vagrant dove
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Narrator: Noone could manifest ego before the light... with the sole exception of the Red Mist, of course

faint pivot
stoic fjord
atomic steeple
stoic fjord
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Still, I genuinely think she might

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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That, or we get a fully realized Rodion in the Red Mist ID

Though I think this is highly unlikely

vagrant dove
vagrant dove
stoic fjord
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She's going to solo 12 index proxies and go "Fuuuuuck I'm not even good at this shit bro 😭"

vagrant dove
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I'm fraudulent

vagrant dove
stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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we wont be getting Red Mist Rodion until like, late story
where shes probably not dealing with that problem by then

faint pivot
stoic fjord
vagrant dove
stoic fjord
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Still, the idea is really funny and also way too in-character to not talk about

vagrant dove
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The courage to protect also genuinely fits her bc like

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She's the one to often call out injustice

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(TKT, trying to argue with Bumble's bum ass)

faint pivot
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Yeah

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She takes the initiative a lot

stoic fjord
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Yes girliepop! Identify systematic injustice!

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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T-Corp Rodya is genuinely so sad to me because like

Not only is she everything she hates

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Her love of food is taken from her

faint pivot
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Where have I heard that before

vagrant dove
stoic fjord
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She's so fucking sad that shit is genuinely a bad end ID bro 😭

vagrant dove
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SiRodya and R-Corp rodya are second place

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Because fuck me those UT stories

stoic fjord
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Dude R Corp rodion makes me want to cry

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Like.

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She just... she just wanted to celebrate with her friends...

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She wanted to be happy and spend time with Ishmael and Hong Lu...

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And she doesn't even get that single day of rest and comfort and

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😭

vagrant dove
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Lie down
Try not to cry
Cry a lot, actually

stoic fjord
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Please Limbus let us make a better world

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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SiRodya

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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Ahh..

vagrant dove
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The uptie story is horribly depressing

faint pivot
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But yeah...

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These 3 are terrible

stoic fjord
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Dude Rodigor in the H Corp world... it'd be peak angst...

stoic fjord
faint pivot
vagrant dove
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Basically her lord sends her to kill a child, like an actual child, under the promise that this mission will see her leash slip and she won't have to be a heishou anymore

stoic fjord
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Cries and punches the wall and stomps the floor and blows up

vagrant dove
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That is the premise of the UT story, it's so genuinely depressing

stoic fjord
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Yeah...

stoic fjord
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Just waiting for Heishou Meursault and the event for Mao Outis and I'll be done

vagrant dove
stoic fjord
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I do too

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Dude

Gregor and Rodion are such amazing characters

But Rodigor adds an entire new dimension to it

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Like

vagrant dove
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I think fundamentally it works because both of them mask the shit out of their emotions for various reasons and are haunted by deep guilt

stoic fjord
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Genuinely, I think they're the one ship that El Director will make Canon. Fausang is nice but I don't think it has nearly as much going for it and riding on it as Rodigor

stoic fjord
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Rodion desperately wanting to be special

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And Gregor desperately wanting to be normal

vagrant dove
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Yeah

faint pivot
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Yeah this

stoic fjord
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Hetgem

vagrant dove
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But there's that underlying baseline of understanding that exists even if neitherwill acknowledge it that I think works

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I think we gotta kill Sonya honestly

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Being "special" is not the be all and end all

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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Like the goals are ostensibly noble but he's a cult leader that works with N-Corp

stoic fjord
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Mhm

vagrant dove
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So you know

stoic fjord
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Rodion will become the true communist revolutionary

vagrant dove
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TRUKE

stoic fjord
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You have to trust the process

vagrant dove
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The city is not ready for her Spectre of Communism ego

stoic fjord
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New passive for Rodion

Das Kapital

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I've been thinking and just wondering about like

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Fully realized base Sinner IDs

stoic fjord
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Give bro his crystal wings and we got it

vagrant dove
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Hongler domain expansion id

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(Referring to the Canto 8 ego cutscene)

stoic fjord
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I kinda wonder if maybe we'll get "Good End" IDs in Paradiso

vagrant dove
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I am hoping we get effloresced ego ids

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Because that would be cool i think

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(As in, Sinner EGO ids, not Spicebush et al)

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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I have to wonder

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How oh how

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Will Ricardo Heathcliff enter the field on the Middle team

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Please enlighten us Outis

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...oh actually we won't even need Outis to cleave someone in twain

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B.E.R. makes someone else take damage for her

atomic steeple
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I had a dream where there was an easy way to get aedd gregor

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well, one of the dreams I ahd last night

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Beautiful

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Also found a sayo ish by misg

faint pivot
faint pivot
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HOLY

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Maybe

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I underestimated how far Misg would go LMAO

atomic steeple
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Gonna dm instead lol

faint pivot
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Say

atomic steeple
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Tbh, people don't focu enough on sayo ish legs

faint pivot
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Not exactly the focus unlike say Skadimael or Xishmael

atomic steeple
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Skadi?

faint pivot
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...was it Skadi

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Talking about the AK EGO

cosmic gorge
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Skadishmael has inner thigh pockets yea

faint pivot
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Ah it was

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Anw were the materials of enhancement tattoos and Ring paint detailed?

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No right?

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Also realizing now that the Middle has an element of each finger mimicked poorly

stoic fjord
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For like

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Thumb and Index

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The other two j got

gentle mulch
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IT'S CANON

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IT'S DOUBLE CANON

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RICARDO JUST EMANATES THE MUSIC

worthy haven
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Ngl this is like a perfect id I think

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In terms of how they did it. Mechnics etc

gentle mulch
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"Change battle music until Turn End" HUGE MIDDLE FACTION UPSCALE

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
# gentle mulch

Oh wait shit is this multi-use

Is this like callisto Hong Lu s3-2 but reusable

atomic steeple
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Yes

gentle mulch
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basically yeah

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Can't be RCC'd but you can build up to it multiple times if I'm reading it correctly

stoic fjord
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I'm tossing a 10 pull at this banner and then grinding shards

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If I get it, I get it, if I don't, I get it later

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And then have to grind Heathcliff shards again.

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Or... I might keep it as boxes? And wait until after walp pulls, see if I get anything

gentle mulch
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Rodion gets another healing EGO

wild mango
atomic steeple
gentle mulch
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Anything less would be a disappointment

gentle mulch
atomic steeple
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Faust gonna get a Ring support ego, trust

gentle mulch
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"ohhhh ohhhhh i need to compete with he EGOs i have five he egos..."
and Rodion gets a nice variety buffet

cosmic gorge
gentle mulch
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To Be Fucking Honest!!

stoic fjord
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Among multiple others

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Wait

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The new E.G.O

atomic steeple
stoic fjord
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Bloodfiends were already tanky

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Make them even moreso

bronze zephyr
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Holy shit I was right ricardocliff does have burn

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This makes me happy

atomic steeple
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This season is a buffet

stoic fjord
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Burn season dreams squashed but we lowk got something better

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So long as Valencina Rodion has a strong burn acceleration move or smth we chillin

dusty sigil
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She’ll almost certainly have scorch

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And ways to burst it

faint pivot
bronze zephyr
gentle mulch
dusty sigil
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I didn’t realize that

gentle mulch
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rime shank is so fucking good

faint pivot
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Which they only apply to people outside the Middle

gentle mulch
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also yeah disappointed there's no burn season but this ID is peak

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Index faith is placed in their bonds

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The chains that tie them together gives them strength

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But their physical items are not the true source of a Proselyte or Proxy's strength

atomic steeple
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Hm, touhou/gensou narratograph plot idea
Parsee starts a gang obsessed with retribution in old Hell, with sumireko coming along to hold a boombox for them
So now you have an incredibly petty gang filled with onis beefing with people over slights

faint pivot
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Some incredible tech here

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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I'm washed 😭 /lh

stoic fjord
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I didn't even know Hong Lord's counter could trigger non-heishou to attack

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Shit's bonkers

faint pivot
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Oh I thought that was a different video

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I saw you mention that lmao

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Did not know R.D. inflicted that much Bind either

stoic fjord
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Also the billion bind to skip the last attack

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And not clash

bronze zephyr
worthy haven
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If mathoutis also has counter skill 3 oh Bebe

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We gonna fucking spam S3s

faint pivot
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Fuck ||Matthias|| man, that guy's an ass

stoic fjord
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That's actually even more big brain

faint pivot
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Also I appreciate how Ricliff is a Tremor unit like Riensang is a Burn unit (he isn't)

bronze zephyr
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Matthias Outis Skill 3-2:
[On Use] Kill The House of Spiders Middle Apprentice Ishmael

gentle mulch
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his counter eats rufo block and gives slash power up if no heishous iirc

stoic fjord
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I kinda wonder why Hong Lord specifically tho

bronze zephyr
faint pivot
bronze zephyr
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Yeah

faint pivot
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KoDya's the only other person with an unbreakable counter

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And well

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She ain't losing that clash even for Gregor's hand in marriage lmao

bronze zephyr
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Phase 2 + needs to be in negative coin to use it

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Thst too

faint pivot
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Man

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I wish we were going backwards in Walps for a bit

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I want both Atziluth Sephirah my stockpile ain't surviving this 😭

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Save me line 6

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And perhaps sunder me in twain via Yinglong and Hong Lord Envy Peccs

bronze zephyr
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Ugh ik she’s still like a month away but I’m itching for seasonal Ryo

gentle mulch
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i wanna see the seasonal ryoshu so bad

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i hope she has a bajillion attacks

faint pivot
faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

TWO limbillion sin resources with C/A

bronze zephyr
#

Great Trichillocosm synergy tho

gentle mulch
#

oh right that's an ego that exists

#

I'll use it when it has a use for me

faint pivot
#

The damage up is pretty nice

vagrant dove
gentle mulch
#

New ryoshu id: NOTHING!

#

THERE'S NOTHING THER--

vagrant dove
gentle mulch
#

Pinkyshu getting a billion extra attacks and shield and unstagger conditions and extra slots as allies die

atomic steeple
#

It's interesting how defensive and self sustaining envy is in limbus
While wrath is "explode"

vagrant dove
#

Resentment builds on itself

gentle mulch
#

IMGONNABLOWUP

#

Envy Res getting some sp support is so good

bronze zephyr
#

True

faint pivot
#

The surprise Gloom SP support from InDon was really nice too

#

HOLY SHIT

#

INTO THE SUNSET IS A ZAYIN????

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

Two cakes

stoic fjord
#

Healing Zayin, and it's lust

faint pivot
#

Brilliant

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

SP healing too!

stoic fjord
#

Mhm

faint pivot
#

A little sad that Burn isn't getting as much out of this but hey, better than nothing

#

KQE exists already anyhow

faint pivot
#

A little late Gnocchian

tiny cave
#

It’s because Hong Long is taking damage that KK Heath is attacking

#

Oh rip

faint pivot
#

Continue reading a little more

#

You're good I was even later lmao

tiny cave
#

Yeah he’s literally just in the team because he’s fast and has an unbreakable counter

bronze zephyr
#

Attack weight

stoic fjord
#

"Yo manager don fucking kill this guy instantly"

bronze zephyr
#

I’m happy

#

It’ll also b good on Val Rodya cuz burn

keen palm
#

Where are people getting Ricardocliff changing the music from

stoic fjord
#

I wonder if Argalia is genuinely just immune to ranged attacks

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
keen palm
#

Oh it's his paaaaasssive

cloud wadi
dusty sigil
#

Hmm

#

I wonder if Ricardocliff will make it so middle Don becomes the better envy res ID then QOH

#

Since he doesn’t seem to have a limit on applying vengeance marks

#

So he wants as many middle members being hit as possible

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
#

Oh yah charge envy QOH absolutely is still better

#

Man

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The second middle Outis comes out

#

It’ll make pure middle a lot better

#

Since they’ll have immediate access to 6 envy resonance counters

#

Instead of waiting a turn

keen palm
#

Tbh, generally it's fine to wait a turn anyhow

#

since you need at least 3-4 envy resources to actually get your engines online

dusty sigil
#

I mean can’t your counters get those resources anyway?

glad fable
dusty sigil
#

Yah

keen palm
#

You honestly probably want to clash turn 1 since there's no vengeance marks to make your skill 3s actually deal big damage, and early SP farming is more important

dusty sigil
#

That is fair yah

crimson spindle
stoic fjord
#

wow, it's running real fast today, huh?

gentle mulch
dusty sigil
#

That’s probably true actually yah

stoic fjord
#

Canto 9 spoilers

ebon forge
#

i am salty about ids having per-turn limits on growth

#

like come on

#

lemme get 100 petals in a single turn

keen palm
#

The game's easy enough tbh

ebon forge
#

itd be funny tho

#

also annoys me cuz sometimes ill somehow get stuck at 29 petals or whatnot

gentle mulch
ebon forge
#

also my macros are back :D

#

i got through like 7 MDs overnight

dusty sigil
#

Y’all think Soldattos are given a specific bullet they’re only to use for kill themselves in case of failure?

ebon forge
#

Also Valenrodya 999% has disposal, right?

dusty sigil
#

It’ll almost certainly be her skill 3-2

ebon forge
#

Also Outthias is gonna be scarryyyyyyy

worthy haven
#

It will be interesting to see who is gonna be the 7th slot

#

Prob reindeer hongler or rodion?

#

Or gregenheim

keen palm
#

For Middle?

worthy haven
#

Ye

keen palm
#

I think you just run 6 tbh

dusty sigil
#

Yah

#

Double slot Outis or Heathcliff

#

Whichever one turns out to be stronger

ebon forge
dusty sigil
#

I mean yah Outis will probably be stronger

#

Ricardocliff is just very strong

worthy haven
#

will also be interesting to see if middle don or qoh

keen palm
#

Middle, presumably

#

you want vengeance marks as much as possible

worthy haven
#

maybe yes.

#

tbh something that i dont think a lot of people who havent used middle ids that frequently would notice is that you can suffer from too many ids countering all the time
and don is an exellent clasher when the rest of the middle...

#

but ramping ricardo (and potentially outis) could still be worth more

keen palm
#

Yeah sometimes you accidentally stagger a boss and lose half your turn

worthy haven
#

like albina or calisto do

#

will just have to see

#

I def see a version of the team with QoH just to have another mazing clasher in a team where you also run middle mersault

keen palm
#

You technically could try and make Ringlu work

worthy haven
#

also there is a chance that the ryo id will also be able to slot into the individual finger teams mayhaps

keen palm
#

She IS presumably Bleed/Burn!

#

Also everyone saying there was no Burn this season........

atomic steeple
# crimson spindle

I love how miserable w corp is
Up there with heishou, but at least some heishous enjoy work (because boluses alter their minds)

vagrant dove
#

Cold and removed the art makes W-Corp itself look a lot of the time+the Horrors of the Warp Train system

ebon forge
#

funny bodi parts

vagrant dove
#

+the looming inevitability of company collapse

#

(Don't get me wrong, W Corp sucks and is a horrible company, but as we saw in Ruina, the fall of a wing doesn't go well for people living through it)

atomic steeple
vagrant dove
stoic fjord
#

Yi Sang is also just depressed at base

atomic steeple
#

W corp sucks, yeah
Their main sins are envy gloom

#

Their abno is based on how much it just sucks

vagrant dove
#

But yeah he is generally rather depressive

vagrant dove
#

Whimsy->witnessing the Horrors

lean fjord
#

I think the only W Corp ID that is having a good time is Ryoshu

vagrant dove
#

Even then she's stuck doing training

#

Which she hates

#

They benched her ass

dusty sigil
vagrant dove
#

Born to dimensional demon edge, forced to B.S

dusty sigil
#

Look how happy Don is

#

She’s so happy with working in public transit

lean fjord
vagrant dove
#

Also if we ever get w corp rodya, that'll be another to the "horrible corporate fates" for her I imagine

lean fjord
vagrant dove
#

No fun allowed in w corp

lean fjord
#

W Sinclair would probably also be funny

#

terrified during training, locks in when he actually has to clear a train

vagrant dove
# vagrant dove All of it just combines to make a *miserable* atmosphere

-Outis gets viscerally reminded of seperation from her family
-W Corp Hong Lu is just drifting through life: no ambition, he's just there for the Elders to experience what the insides of a warp train look like
-W Corp Heath's whole id story is just illustrative of W-Corp's slow death
-W Corp Yi Sang is having a horrible time
-W Corp Faust is stuck there because of the Gesselschaft, probably, and generally considers the company's work inefficient at best

#

Generally just horrible vibes

gentle mulch
#

We're declining the Wing w this one!!!

dusty sigil
#

Also chat

#

There is one tragedy

#

Of Heathcliff Ricardo

split beacon
#

The final death of Pequod IDs?

dusty sigil
#

Because he’s not actually a tremor ID N Corp don still has to be put on bleed tremor teams

split beacon
#

Oh, lmao

gentle mulch
#

LMAO

lean fjord
#

so that does mean at least three Burn/Bleed IDs now

dusty sigil
#

Man, I gotta say we’re really lucky that Don was found by limbus before someone else

#

Because from her mirror worlds she’s really easily tricked into joining evil organizations who claim they’re righteous

#

N Corp, the middle, T Corp, the index

atomic steeple
#

We were fighting an accidentally nerfed ricardo all along

dusty sigil
#

All groups shes super happy to join and serve because they all claim they’re fighting for a righteous cause

atomic steeple
#

We need a ring don

#

Had thought of a ryoshu gf ring oc, abd would be kinda funny if don had this character as an id

vagrant dove
#

Like it Just Makes Sense

#

Ostensible noble goal but the organisation itself is suspiciously cultish and devoted to "Saint" Sonya

mystic ermine
hybrid lynx
#

smokemaxxing

#

developed lung cancer? get new ones!

eternal gull
#

the other one I mean ricardo definitely does 😎

vagrant dove
eternal gull
#

...

#

-# he may have allat... actually...

dusty sigil
#

Chat does defense level do anything besides make enemy defense skills clash worse?

keen palm
#

Take more damage iirc

lean fjord
#

it does also affect damage yeah

dusty sigil
#

Oh alright

stoic fjord
#

do I upgrade N Don for Bleed Tremor or do I wait for the next blemor unit who can actually tremor

gentle mulch
#

it's burn bleed clues

keen palm
#

Do you want to run blemor

faint pivot
stoic fjord
stoic fjord
#

...okay, looking at it, I don't see what the new buff is

#

okay so I've been looking at the middle uptie stories again

vagrant dove
#

Same

#

Sinclair getting embarrassed is still so funny

#

Actual big brother behaviour

#

*if morbid due to the subject matter, but that's the City

stoic fjord
#

...I still think they planned this from the start

#

also I love Middle Don's uptie story

stoic fjord
fluid whale
stoic fjord
#

ohhhhh okay gotcha

vagrant dove
stoic fjord
stoic fjord
vagrant dove
#

Truly, an individual most fit for the Middle.```

Really fits into the discussion that was had earlier imo
stoic fjord
#

genuinely caving someone's face in with her skull and the only thing on her mind is the party and eating ice cream

vagrant dove
#

It reminds me a lot of uhhh

#

Our Don beating Sinclair up in c3

#

(Except there she's not locked on in the party)

vagrant dove
#

How happy she is compared to the bloodstained POV

stoic fjord
#

godddd

#

I wish Ricardocliff could count as tremor

#

because then, we could have Burn Bleed Tremor as soon as Matthias Outis released

split beacon
#

1000 years of Blemor suffering until the saviour arrives

stoic fjord
#

DELIVER ME UNTO THY LOVING EMBRACE, N CORP

#

do we think the other members of Firefist Office in Gregor's mirror world were other sinners

fluid whale
#

Only Rodya

#

Also through funny implication, we know Meursault, Sinclair and Hong Lu weren't, I think

stoic fjord
#

since-

#

wait, is it Cinqsault or Cassette Salt that's in that mirror world?

vagrant dove
#

Amyway gn chat

stoic fjord
#

gn

fluid whale
#

I guess actually yeah it would be Cassetti sault, I was thinking of the achievement for bringing all 4 bloodfiend hunters to the infinite procession pack

gentle mulch
faint pivot
#

At least R.C. lets the Middle proc Bell of Truth in MD lmao

#

Can't remember a good Tremor unit with Envy besides CAR

#

Ah, Wusang

gentle mulch
#

HA

#

THATS TRUE

#

Bell of Truth

bronze zephyr
#

LOL

#

wonder how much tremor app the s3-2 will have

faint pivot
#

1, lmao

#

Imagine if it was 15 or something

#

Just to mimic a fraction of Ricardo's power

gentle mulch
#

...

#

what if it was 2 tremor again

#

this is fucking huge for MDIE

cloud wadi
#

ooh

#

you mean we get to have more free stuff?

gentle mulch
#

yup

#

might test out the envy res team on sweeps

faint pivot
#

Xishmael getting no bonus is :/

#

But I guess that'll be for S.C.

gentle mulch
#

i assume so yea

#

oh also

#

does ryoshu's base sprite update to hold the arayashiki?

#

in battle

faint pivot
#

Yea

#

Her facade doesn't though

#

Huh, didn't notice that Arayashiki's handle gets longer post-canto

#

Choking

#

I haven't had Ryo die on me yet so I hadn't noticed 😭

#

This is notably unlike Heathcliff's sprite which excludes his death sprite

ebon forge
#

Wait every nursefather id has burn on their S3-2 right?

lean fjord
#

so far yes

#

but the last two definitely will, since they're actually primarily Burn

cosmic gorge
#

secret burn season

stoic fjord
#

2 potency on a 1 use skill

faint pivot
#

It counts!

stoic fjord
#

not for my purposes

cosmic gorge
#

its funny that Heath did not get any burn for eight cantos and suddenly got 2-3 burn ids almost all at once

faint pivot
#

Not for all of them but more EGO gifts than otherwise!

#

Watch B.E.R. drops and it's just "one limbillion Burn count"

cosmic gorge
#

rick cliff isnt even gonna be a burn ID for MD gift reaasons right?

#

or is he

stoic fjord
#

it's on his base skills

cosmic gorge
#

same with kiramael?

faint pivot
#

different

#

cause he starts with 'em

stoic fjord
#

Kiramael needs to activate it, even if she already counts

#

he just has it innately

faint pivot
#

Hmmm

#

His last ID before the drought was KKcliff

lean fjord
#

Ricardocliff has Burn and Bleed base on all his skills, yeah

faint pivot
#

Who had his bond with the KK to distract him from the fact was missing

lean fjord
faint pivot
#

Next is Youcliff who was also pretty busy but he has a handle on that shit so not so

stoic fjord
#

I'm tired of grinding

#

I'm at level 782 after roughly 4 months

#

it's

#

fine, in terms of pace, I guess

#

but...

#

I need things to go faster

#

FB is getting repetitive
MDE I have no new teams for

gentle mulch
#

debating on if Ringsault is worth fielding for MD against Princesault

#

i guess i can just look at the S3s and compare

faint pivot
#

Ringsault is a glass cannon

#

Sinking is always welcome, especially in MDE

#

Princesault is gonna make sure your sinners stay around longer and builds up to AoE

gentle mulch
#

that is true, sinking is great

#

and that's the thing though

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

Princesault himself is also very resilient

stoic fjord
#

because Ring and Bloodfiend both require multiple packs on your route for max capacity

gentle mulch
#

Princesault builds up to AoE but if I give the enemies that much time for him to proc s3-2 I'm probably dying horribly

stoic fjord
#

hybrid is possible but you want a little more leeway if you don't get a pack

faint pivot
#

And for if you don't get your fusions

#

Ringers especially

#

Since a few of their components are keywordless

gentle mulch
#

gahhhh

faint pivot
#

Give it a shot first, I'd say

gentle mulch
#

that's the kicker

#

i need to spend exp tickets

#

to level Ringsault

#

and like 80 blues

#

which is a lotttttt

#

looking at the IDs again

#

ringsault just doesn't do enough to beat out prince

#

curse of the welfare id

tiny cave
# gentle mulch

Specifically on his S3-2 so he doesn’t count as a tremor ID forMD rip

tiny cave
gentle mulch
#

lust res lol

#

ive had the best performance doing lust res than any multi status run ive had

tiny cave
#

Ring is better for that I think

#

More coins more damages

stoic fjord
#

WAIT WE'RE GETTING TRANSLATED AND UNTRANSLATED SWEEPER ANNOUNCER?

#

peak

gentle mulch
#

it's peak

keen palm
faint pivot
#

I need to know who're making ransom note Limbus memes

gentle mulch
#

oh yeah does thermal blades apply burn count as well?

tiny cave
#

ye

gentle mulch
#

huh

#

i guess thats a nonzero amount of burn upkeep then

tiny cave
#

it pretty trivial but its mostly so she can actually get coin power

gentle mulch
#

happy burn seasonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

keen palm
tiny cave
#

6 burn fulfills her coin power conditions and unlike bleed, burn is gonna stay there forever

keen palm
#

I do have this though

gentle mulch
faint pivot
gentle mulch
gentle mulch
faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

my

#

...what?

#

god i keep thinking about the sheer presentation of lei heng

#

fighting him at the canto drop screaming COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNN JUST FUCKING MAKE IT as the guitars keep screeching

#

and then he dies aura farming

faint pivot
#

Lei Heng definitely has his place in the hierarchy

#

However, Valencina is competing pretty damn well

#

Both her intros

gentle mulch
#

thankfully the sweepers are hella easy to farm unlike rufo

faint pivot
#

Most punchable for the shortest time goes to Matthias

#

And we aren't able to punch Dihui cause Ryo beat us to the punch so she gets nothing

bronze zephyr
#

i miss shiomi,,

gentle mulch
#

i miss ren

bronze zephyr
#

i wish we'd gotten to see more of shiomi||, ik shes dead and all but||

gentle mulch
#

My current reactions to the thumb for the first time:
Thumb Trio: ohhh katrielit hink i ghuave cvoid
Thumb Grunts: Out of my way, Vermin.
Lei Heng: PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY IM BARELY HANGING

#

Valencina:

#

as soon as i saw it was absolutely possible to exhaust her eye i was fucking out to get her

mystic ermine
#

Question

main scaffoldBOT
#

Answer

mystic ermine
#

||Valencina is triple keyword: tremor, poise and burn||
While the Thumb is tremor burn n all, we do only need one more unit for that team to be valiable
And... well
If you want to get coinpower extraordinaire!
...wouldnt tremor poise be more fitting for her ID?

#

Considering the ||"assassinate and hit hard"|| thing she was doing?

mystic ermine
#

"Answer"

gentle mulch
#

we're gonna get a 2 burn potency nursefather aren't we

#

FUCK

tiny cave
#

nah i think matoutis and valencion will be actual burn ids lol

#

they won't just have "inflict 1 burn" in s3-2

mystic ermine
#

Device

bronze zephyr
mystic ermine
#

"you have all died, but, that is a sacrifice I was willing to make."

faint pivot
#

I do not recall both Extraction and Archives opening early enough for that to happen

#

Or am I misremembering the unlock condition

#

Either way

#

🫡

faint pivot
#

IDs have gained statuses their counterpart doesn't have, and are downgraded versions as IDs rather than people in their Mirror World

#

But I think the Mirror could capture the heat of the accelerating future

bronze zephyr
dusty sigil
cosmic gorge
#

what benefits does positive sanity kodya have again

#

good for mdie?

faint pivot
#

Her tanking capability shoots up

#

Her aggro can be used to sacrifice her in exchange for 6 unopposed attacks vs. say secret bosses

#

Ah, and Sinking pot

cosmic gorge
#

oh isee iseeee

keen palm
#

iirc, the benefits are more defense, higher clashes

cosmic gorge
#

isee

faint pivot
#

Oh right clash power too

#

Only the secret boss gifts really affect negative coins

vagrant dove
#

Especially with those battle voicelines

vagrant dove
#

Oh also

#

The Sunset Wayfarer Rodion ego passive

#

Gonna go crazy with Disposal

#

Ignore the fact the image is suffering yesodificatiom

vagrant dove
#

If the leftmost base* attack skill is Wrath/Lust on Rodya, at attack end deal 10% of the damage dealt to the main target as corresponding affinity damage to a random enemy, if you do max possible damage you gain affinity damage up and double the above effect when it triggers for X turns

hybrid lynx
#

every letter you successfully comprehend is another ding of the butterfly guns

vagrant dove
vagrant dove
#

If Valrodya is pride/lust/wrath like valencina

#

That ego will sync

#

Also works well with Ring Rodya's S3

tiny cave
#

washed

vagrant dove
#

Is our top priority

atomic steeple
tiny cave
#

“If the enemy has gained burn 5 times from 5 different enhanced skills, use ‘Erasing Me, Erasing You’ instead”

atomic steeple
#

Binah agrees with binah

#

Also, there's a post saying yan is the angela equivalent. So, what if
"Yan, no time to explain. Identify as a woman, open a library, and have a meet cute with this Rien guy. The prescripts will be flabbergasted"

cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

my crack theory
Seasonal Ryoshu is Unique Charge with Past/Present working like The Living and the Departed

#

that's right

#

it's charge again

vagrant dove
gentle mulch
#

they dont have the guts to make an omnistatus id

vagrant dove
#

I love how cocky she is when Precog works as well

gentle mulch
#

it'd be hilarious if they pulled
When a Nursefather dies, gain a Status tag and appropriate infliction

vagrant dove
gentle mulch
#

"Aww... I bet they're fighting the Ring by now."

vagrant dove
vagrant dove
gentle mulch
#

I can beat the red gaze mfs when it's time to beat the red gaze

vagrant dove
#

To be fair, she lasted longer than a lot of people, even with Verg not popping EGO

gentle mulch
#

at least Iori lived

vagrant dove
#

He basically can't make any progress until we start screwing up her precog

That being said, the Red Goat would still probably win a 1v1

gentle mulch
#

tbh we weren't the ones to screw up her precog

#

he just takes his time ramping up to skills that can beat the skill rolling

#

literally how long can she keep it up against verg we're just there for lucios and the U.K.

#

but you can moros to beat the skill

vagrant dove
#

I do take the Sinners being there as messing with her entire flow because her style is based around one target

stoic fjord
#

Prepared for Valencina Rodion to dethrone Molar Ishmael as the solo queen

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

idunno i think her seething caused it

vagrant dove
#

Which is why I think he combines the two fights together to remove Valencina's main advantage

stoic fjord
#

Specifically him breaking through

#

Introducing Gregor and Balenciaga

#

*Valencina

vagrant dove
#

If it was I don't think he was aware of it

#

Since he seems genuinely taken aback

gentle mulch
#

Valencibum

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
#

Probably, given how staged canto 9 was

stoic fjord
#

Like, we know the groups were fairly intentional in some way, i.e. Hong Lu being in the team against Matthias, Sinclair against the Ring, etc.

gentle mulch
vagrant dove
#

It's also worth noting that uh

#

The assist units all get a passive relating to the flow

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
#

"The flow is fucked. Try again bro we can't have that shit happening."

vagrant dove
#

One may get lost and wander onto the wrong path, but willful defiance or deviation from the flow are forbidden by "it."

#

Ominous ass passive text

#

I think wilful defiance from the Flow might be an issue going forward

vagrant dove
#

Also note "it" - not Dias

#

Probably something or someone else within Limbus

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
#

Could be the Will of the City again

stoic fjord
#

But... maybe they have more than one potential singularity in the works

#

Maybe Dante isn't even their planned singularity

vagrant dove
#

Or it could be tied to the clock itself

#

Which is already Ominous as fuck

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

Imagine if it was the only EGO corrosion that let its wielder retain some semblance of sanity

vagrant dove
vagrant dove
#

Doomsday Calendar

stoic fjord
#

Also me and my friend have been like

Genuinely going insane because of the 13 line from Malkuth

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

Hwell

#

Tbf

#

Hokma himself says price of silence

stoic fjord
#

...it being called Doomsday Calender is a bit disconcerting

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

No like

#

That's part of his pre-suppression spiel

stoic fjord
#

Ohhhh ok

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
#

So more Hokma links

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

I may have misremembered it being pre-suppression