#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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keen palm
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Difference is that Matthias doesnt actually care about the sins

stoic fjord
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"fuck them, just fucking kill bro"

keen palm
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Everyone else does, deathly so

stoic fjord
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I still think Matthias is an automatic disqualification from IDGAFer for the action figure thing

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like. everything else? all good points

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but also

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bro genuinely cannot be an IDGAFer because of that. I refuse the label on him

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Lei Heng is an IDGAFer

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pre-canto Yi Sang and Hong Lu are IDGAFers

keen palm
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He is in his 50s and the action figure thing was when he was a kid

neat cedar
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yes

stoic fjord
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Manchild Prime is not an IDGAFer

neat cedar
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and it was

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the core

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of his soul

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when moses read him

keen palm
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He is definitely an IDGAFer

neat cedar
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he's 50 and still not over it

stoic fjord
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he's less over it than Jia Huan over his dead brother

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I don't think we can even call him a fake IDGAFer

neat cedar
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Moses poking that trauma.made him truly and genuinely pissed

stoic fjord
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he's just not one at all

keen palm
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he didnt actually get pissed though!

neat cedar
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he did

keen palm
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He just went "damn you almost got me"

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He was more pissed about his moonstone

neat cedar
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no?

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Like he was impressed that the psychic attack amanged to filyl cloud the moonstone

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what got him truly mad

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was being made to relieve that memory

stoic fjord
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I'm just not accepting Matthias as an IDGAFer under any circumstance. bro doesn't deserve the label. He is not going under the same label as fucking Lei Heng 😭

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not even as a beef thing he's just

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not anywhere near as unbothered

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or

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unbothered in the first place

keen palm
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His whole thing is that he engages with everything shallowly because he doesnt care!

split beacon
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matthias gets pressed about lots of little things

keen palm
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You cant have it both ways!

split beacon
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but he doesn't care much about anything really important

stoic fjord
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it's not that he doesn't care at all, it's that he only cares about himself and shallow bitch shit and going after either in a significant capacity gets him pressed instantly

neat cedar
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Yeah, like

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Matthias gives a shit

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about things that are petty and inconsequential

stoic fjord
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that's like, even less IDGAFer than Jia Huan

neat cedar
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because he's a manchild who has never grown past that point with the toy

stoic fjord
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Jia Huan is at least not over the death of his brother and the dismissal of it by one of his friends

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Matthias is pressed over genuinely the lamest shit ever nso_sob

neat cedar
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Distortions are your core traumas and concerns unveiled

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so moses uncovering that his main trauma

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in alk of hismlife

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is an incident of not getting s toy he wanted when he was a kid

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shows that he just never got over that

stoic fjord
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Jia Huan is more of an IDGAFer than Matthias. Hohenheim is more of an IDGAFer. Faust might be closer to IDGAFer than Matthias and she's not even in the running for a fake IDGAFer because she does GAF

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this isn't even slander

neat cedar
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like, bringing up the arm thing

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i find that an example of how he does care

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he couldn't concieve of why his daughter who he gave everything, would do this to him

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he was genuinely hurt and wondering what he did wrong

keen palm
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I also think you guys have a fundamental misread on the toy thing

bronze zephyr
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in the intervallo ||matthias goes out of his way to kill ryoshu's teacher and dismember her classmate because they fought her even though she didnt want him to||

neat cedar
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I mean

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how though?

keen palm
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Because the point isnt that he didnt get it

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The point is that no one else CARED that it was gone

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Not even the factory owner

atomic steeple
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rxddit.com

Hana's Section bases are pure white. So if anything spills, gets scratched, or some form of dirt gets on it- It can be seen VERY clearly. And they'll know who did it.

Everyone else also wears the cool white coats, which definitely get dirty a lot and are a pain to wash. The price of having the best drip in the game.

neat cedar
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I feel that bith things can be true though

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like he is uoset that not only he didn't get it

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but also that no one else cared

keen palm
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Like the fundamental lesson Matthias learned was that only he can be trusted to love the things he loves

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Which is where his selfishness came from

neat cedar
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That's a valid read, for sure

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i honestly agree with it

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doesn't make him.an IDGAFer though

stoic fjord
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like. yeah. true.

that... that doesn't make him any closer to being an IDGAFer though

bro was so hurt he changed his entire attitude and worldview. like. that's not IDGAFer behavior

neat cedar
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because the core point remains that he is not over that incident still, to this day

split beacon
stoic fjord
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they have the nanomachines

split beacon
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like we know their weaponry is amorphous nanomachine bullshit

bronze zephyr
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oh forgot about that

neat cedar
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Hana drip is so cool

stoic fjord
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I just realized we never even really got to see ||Ren fight properly||

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we know so little about him.

...not that there really ever was much for him to be.

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:(

lean fjord
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a real fight with him would have been neat

cloud wadi
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I’m fairly sure he was fighting at full strength against mugashu

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Though that match up was quite literally coughing baby against nuke

stoic fjord
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it's muga

cloud wadi
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Coughing baby

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Nuke

stoic fjord
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also random idea popped into my head for some reason

||Kira as a Color Fixer wielding LƦvateinn||

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it'd be aura and that's my only reasoning

neat cedar
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lol

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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||The Violet Vengeance||

stoic fjord
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||...unless it was removed after her library disappearance...||

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
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if she'll perhaps start letting go of her attachment to the middle

vagrant dove
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i think it's just Lei Heng unironically

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something something the Winged Tiger does not concern himself with

stoic fjord
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fair lmao

neat cedar
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which makes sense, the PJM verse is one where emotions have genuine power

cloud wadi
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Four color fixers called crimson, red, ruby, and scarlet

vagrant dove
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but his IDGAFerness is like, him only really caring about fighting

cloud wadi
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Real idgafer is indigo elder

stoic fjord
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true...

keen palm
stoic fjord
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he's like, orange tho

cloud wadi
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Vermilion is more orange though innit

stoic fjord
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it's orange-ish red

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more red though

cloud wadi
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Mmm

vagrant dove
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colours are weird

stoic fjord
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also known as cinnabar

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posting the solid vermillion block spoilered this time

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because it's genuinely hurting my eyes

neat cedar
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mood

keen palm
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Thats red

cloud wadi
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Yeah vermillion too

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Suppose should be glad that cherry red probably isn’t a Color

stoic fjord
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in the ||second smoke war||

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the way ||A Certain Sinclair|| was

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no real reason I just think it'd be cool

cloud wadi
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I suppose she’s axtually very powerful for her age

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She deflected a maestro’s blow twice after all

keen palm
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Either Kira or Aeng Du is getting Leviathan

stoic fjord
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||her offense level/defense level suggest she's possibly around the same general area as Ricardo||

stoic fjord
cloud wadi
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Emile Benoit seems very Ishmael coded

stoic fjord
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true...

keen palm
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I ain't writing that on mobile

cloud wadi
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I think Ishmael will eventually get Emile Benoit is

eternal gull
keen palm
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I did have an idea for a video i wanna do

stoic fjord
keen palm
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"Can you beat Cyberpunk 2077 as the Index"

eternal gull
keen palm
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Where i roll on that prescript site once an in-game day or before a mission

stoic fjord
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ooooo

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I fw that

stoic fjord
eternal gull
stoic fjord
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like. I feel like ||Kira has too much potential. too much room to grow for something cool to not happen. it has to happen.||

stoic fjord
eternal gull
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the problem is she has got tatoos and weapons but I cant imagine her martial arts are all that there

neat cedar
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?

stoic fjord
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trust

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it's all coming together

eternal gull
neat cedar
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i feel that underswllingbhow strong she is

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like augments are indeed a part of her power

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but she clearly 100% has trained

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very consistently and diligently

keen palm
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Well she explicitly didnt

stoic fjord
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||she was kind of an easy fight during the canto but also that was because after turn 1 she genuinely just had 0 coin power at all times||

keen palm
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She just copies moves she saw on TV

stoic fjord
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okay yeah no she just copies what she thinks is cool

eternal gull
neat cedar
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Ye, but rhat is still a form.of training

stoic fjord
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what I'm arguing is that she very much could learn

neat cedar
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not great training

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because matthias is a fuck

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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but i think the body full of scares and muscles speaks to so.eone who.does train

eternal gull
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its why I think she has lots of potential

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if she actually ytied to train her abilities

cloud wadi
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Matthias taught her one very valuable skill

stoic fjord
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like Matthias, a lot of it is brute strength

but genuinely if she trained she could be cracked

neat cedar
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like she is still

keen palm
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She is the mechanically and narrativelty weakest apprentice because she was working under "Mr. Just Kill Them"

cloud wadi
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She has GREAT instincts

eternal gull
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she might also let emotions get the better of her too easily

neat cedar
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an apprentice to a great brother

stoic fjord
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like. it's all augments

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she's not skilled

cloud wadi
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Like Ryoshu she can accurately gauge the strength of the enemy

neat cedar
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qeakest apprentice =/= weak

stoic fjord
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I can agendapost all day but I'm not going to say she's skilled

cloud wadi
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Like she knew that the docent was exactly one level above her lmao

neat cedar
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becausw all of the aplrwntices

neat cedar
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are crazy talented

stoic fjord
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okay, I think this is true, but again, minus Kira

bronze zephyr
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she's muscled and has a lot of tattoos but she did spend her time learning moves from famous fixers on tv in isolation without developing an actual style
If she gets training from like BHK and learned Mang it automatically makes her wayyy better than she was before

stoic fjord
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I love her but she's genuinely just copying TV moves the best she can

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and using brute strength

neat cedar
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like if kira was only powered vy augments

stoic fjord
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which I think she is.

neat cedar
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she would not have managed to block the maestro's hit

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while debuffed

stoic fjord
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I think there's like

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she knows how to block.

neat cedar
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again

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pasted don

stoic fjord
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she knows the basics because of fixer TV

neat cedar
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with a grazing hit

stoic fjord
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but she's not skilled

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I'm not saying she knows zero fundamentals

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I'm just saying she's genuinely like, Finn tier in terms of skill

eternal gull
cloud wadi
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She’d go far as a fixer if nothing else solely on the basis of knowing what fight to take and what fight to avoid

neat cedar
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again, i think ur miaudndwratanding my pount

cloud wadi
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Also she seems to be very naturally talented

vagrant dove
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she has natural talent but no training is how i'd put it

stoic fjord
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also true

cloud wadi
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If she can copy moves just by looking at it

neat cedar
stoic fjord
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okay yeah I do agree there

vagrant dove
stoic fjord
cloud wadi
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But you know what they say about potential

neat cedar
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mobile typing be like.that

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butbyeah

vagrant dove
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potential woman

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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being able to block the maestro's hit is not something just augments got her

stoic fjord
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so like, not jobbers either

stoic fjord
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I still think it's less skill and moreso augments and some level of talent

vagrant dove
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if matthias actually bothered, she'd prob be like, sora tier

neat cedar
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Mhmm

vagrant dove
stoic fjord
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GET THIS GIRL BHK AS A MENTOR NOW!!!!

neat cedar
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like her training is probably funky

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but she has most definitely

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trained

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just on doing shit she thought was cool

cloud wadi
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She trains just enough to get attention from Matthias

stoic fjord
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okay yeah fair I'm willing to call it training just because she's actually able to carry through with it to an extent

cloud wadi
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She hasn’t been formally trained

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Is the word I think

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She trains herself

neat cedar
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mhmm

keen palm
cloud wadi
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True

neat cedar
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Does it well enough to use them.in a fight

cloud wadi
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Does it well enough to be level 67

neat cedar
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like she goes out fighting fixers on a regular basis based in kira ish story

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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as well as helping matthias do jobs

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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she is a very dangerous and skilled fixer in her own right

stoic fjord
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...do you mean fighter

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or

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I assume you do

neat cedar
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Fighter, yeah

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brain fart

stoic fjord
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like

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||girl outputs more brute force than Big Ricky, apparently. that's fucked.||

neat cedar
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all.of the apprentices are monsters

cloud wadi
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Oh rufo is level 66

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Numbers aren’t everything

bronze zephyr
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Yeah like levels are storytelling to an extent but not in every case

cloud wadi
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Rufo is slightly lower level than Kira but due to her skills and techniques gets bonuses that puts her ahead of Kira

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Kira doesn’t get offense level bonuses but rufo does

stoic fjord
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I'm just using them as a baseline for what we can't see as much

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like, it still does mean something, even if not everything

cloud wadi
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Yeah

stoic fjord
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the Apprentices are fucked up

cloud wadi
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I’d still wager Ricardo can wipe the floor with Kira even if she’s a few level higher

neat cedar
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mhmm, he's prob got more experience and also

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prob better augments

stoic fjord
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middle tattoos vs. middle styled tattoos, after all

neat cedar
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middle styled even

stoic fjord
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ok gng.

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I think Mr. Beast would fit in perfectly in the City

vagrant dove
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This is what nest I is about

stoic fjord
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truly and genuinely soulless content. content for the sake of content for the sake of vapid spectacle

vagrant dove
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I know, was but a jape

the soulessness inherent in taking the capitalist torment nexus game and unironically duplicating it is like

stoic fjord
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yeah fair

vagrant dove
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Enough proof

stoic fjord
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and arguing that nothing was wrong with it because no one was killed

vagrant dove
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Yeah noones killed, but you've also entirely duplicated the "rich elite makes people fight with each other over money" bit

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Not that I think he gets that lmao

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Perfect for the City

stoic fjord
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also the idea of like

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content so soulless and generic it appeals to no one and has no real creation behind it beyond optimizing for the algorithm

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honestly the City might not be soulless enough for bro 😭

vagrant dove
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New thing for that surrealist maestro oc of mine to crash out about (one of their only correct opinions, PLEASE stop locking people in a room with a monolith)

vagrant dove
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Actual squid game is probably a thing too

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Given the proclivities of the City

stoic fjord
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I think also with like

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the idea of Beast Games showing people to be selfish and how the true essence of people is self-centeredness

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feels very City

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which is also why it's even better to me that in Beast Games, people chose to cooperate and help each other instead

vagrant dove
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Something something representation of the City's cycles and pressures that push people towards pursuing their own desires at the expense of others and how some people choose to break from that mould

stoic fjord
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truthnuke

vagrant dove
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It's a good thing PM games contain absolutely 0 allegory for anything in our world

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That would be crazy

vagrant dove
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Because the city isn't free market apparently

stoic fjord
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sighhhh

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ohhhh fuck

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hi Rien.

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please don't fuck me as hard as last time

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he's uh

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doing it

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okay wait no I might

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do this

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I might do this

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223 damage furioso I might be ok

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160 HP.

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I can do this.

vagrant dove
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SHES SO COOL

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finally managed to capture the twirl frame

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ryoshu is both like

there's a comedic element to her aurafarming- the chandelier incident, her W corp id ect

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but she's also just genuinely cool

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which is a really funny balance

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i love this id so much

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great visuals

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amazing at clearing multiple target fights and reducing md times

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works well with jeong ishmael and udjat outis, two of my favourite ids

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genuinely perfect no notes

gentle mulch
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they're calling her the most chuuni mother to ever do it

vagrant dove
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she's just missing the eyepatch

gentle mulch
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T.C.

dusty sigil
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I’m watching a video of ring Meursault preforming other Meursault’s skill 3s and man

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Meursault has a lot of skill 3s with 4 coins

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Which could mean nothing

gentle mulch
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P.A.S.S.

vagrant dove
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meursault is secretly a shi member

gentle mulch
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shisault

dusty sigil
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Anyway did y’all know how many times Meursault shot the Arab man in the stranger?

stoic fjord
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I wish I had FA&S Ryoshu...

dusty sigil
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Ding ding ding

gentle mulch
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1+4 iirc

dusty sigil
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Yah

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He shot him once

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Then 4 more times

atomic steeple
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5 knocks on the door of misfortune

dusty sigil
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They’re presented distinctly in the book however

stoic fjord
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Caposault has 5 coins

dusty sigil
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The first is his ā€œsun in the eyes shotā€

stoic fjord
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fuck my entire life I cannot beat Rien

dusty sigil
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The 4 are just him shooting the dying man

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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"while you went outside, i studied martial arts" headass

keen palm
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Ryoshu, like every sinner, sucks

stoic fjord
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they're all endearing but also all still kind of assholes or otherwise not the best people in some capacity

vagrant dove
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I think that's why they work as a crew so well

stoic fjord
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mhm

vagrant dove
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also re new intervallo

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been looking back on it to form more thoughts

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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||outis very specifically does not enter the door to the office block. methinks that might be significant in regards to her whole vibe||

stoic fjord
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Like in Canto 8 with both Heathcliff and Yi Sang showing concern for Hong Lu

vagrant dove
vagrant dove
stoic fjord
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mhm

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they are just. flawed people. like anyone else

vagrant dove
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i relate quite a bit to Ishmael's neuroses in some capacity because the Autism, for example

vagrant dove
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i am so fucking scared for rodion

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since canto 10 is coming up and I think her various narrative links vis a vis Meursault are going to be Relevant

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it'd be really funny if she defends him in the trial

stoic fjord
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I feel like the one from "Crime and Punishment" is absolutely gonna be involved for the guy who was. y'know

bronze zephyr
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Mmm

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I should read a Crime and Punishment summary its one of the ones i know less about

stoic fjord
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I just remembered why I was so adamant on trying to do the Red Mist on what was likely a dead save

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early game lob corp is unbelievably boring.

eternal gull
stoic fjord
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I'm genuinely just a fraud

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I suck ass at MDE

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I can't do this shit

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no one ever ask me for help ever again I can't even beat a single one of the new secret bosses

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maybe if I run Charge Bleed...? instead of ring single status

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since Outis isn't contributing much anyways

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and it would work out

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People do solos n shit though I might genuinely just suck at the game

gentle mulch
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ring lust res team cooks like fucking crazy but it sounds like you got scammed out of the corporist fusion gift

stoic fjord
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Turning off Limbus to do homework instead I'm going tweaker rn

stoic fjord
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I just don't have Ring Yi Sang

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And ring Outis is genuinely fucking ass

gentle mulch
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who did you us

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oh thats your problem

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you need lustres 100% of the time and boutis is not that

stoic fjord
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5 ring + Allegory + MShu

gentle mulch
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and also shes kinda dated

stoic fjord
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So probably more like... NShu and like

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Idk who else

gentle mulch
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i recently went through a MDIE run with corporists, kk, and some bloodfiends

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they stayed neutral/favored until the very end, with the #1 sinner dominating on all clashes

stoic fjord
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I'd like to do that but also I'd go for all of the new Ring

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So I guess it'd be...

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Manager Don, Barber Outis, Prince Meursault?

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Which

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Not bad actually

gentle mulch
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i havent tried Ring Faction wholly yet

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im concerned about the outis slot..

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ring outis is a 00 whose main appeal is count infliction which who gaf in MD lmao

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and barboutis is. okay.

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definitely not a turn 1 attack weight+

atomic steeple
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I wanna build charge
But gotta get seasonal stuff

stoic fjord
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is that like

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Barber can't fucking lust res

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her counter is glut

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her S3 is wrath

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her S2 is okay but it's also not exactly amazing

gentle mulch
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building for barber is dogshit

stoic fjord
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I might run bleed/charge

gentle mulch
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like lowk thats an entire sinner who doesnt perform

cosmic gorge
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Rate my potential envy res team

Middon, midclair, kiramael, MC faust, princess rodya, wheath and woutis

stoic fjord
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so I can do W Outis, W Cliff, 2 Corporists, Ring Lu, Ring Faust, and REAPshu

gentle mulch
stoic fjord
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investing

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I wouldn't

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because like

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Middle Outis

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and also high chance of Ricardocliff Noctural Sweeping Bokgak

cosmic gorge
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Oh i forgot

But i have woutis leveled at least

gentle mulch
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woutis does 0 fucking damage and herr groghenheim low diffs support potential

stoic fjord
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Gregenheim makes all prior charge support look weak

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it's actually insane

gentle mulch
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but fuuuuuuck woutis has so much aura

cosmic gorge
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The only one notnlevef in that comp i showed is middon and princess

stoic fjord
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bro does everything for charge and then also infinite AoE

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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you can replace princess with groghenheim tbh

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
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Barber outis is trash, yeah

stoic fjord
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unless she's the fastest or slowest

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so she lowk just ragebaits you

cosmic gorge
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Aww
Doesnt princess have a buff thats good for people who take damage

stoic fjord
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okay I think she does but iirc it's more bleed reliant?

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unsure

cosmic gorge
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Welll, me lust res team is already mostly bleed

atomic steeple
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I am baffled at how cooked charge is
Barely got good support

stoic fjord
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fuck having support gng the keyword is fundamentally kinda cooked in some ways 😭

cosmic gorge
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As great as the corporist duo is trying to put them in an envy res team got me a lil tilted

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(in MD im talking MD )

stoic fjord
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them mfs did NOT want to fucking give me envy skills ever

stoic fjord
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mainly with its issues of not doing anything at base and also iirc a weird amount of things interacting strangely wrt passives or smth?

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this might just be the MD thing of most of the gifts specifying "consumes Charge count" now that I think about it

worthy haven
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for like envy res to function QoH don is really really needed

stoic fjord
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I imagine this may change when Middle Outis and potentially Ricardo Heath drop

worthy haven
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I think i run r hongler over woutis mainly due to the envy def skill

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ye

atomic steeple
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Why is charge itself cooked?

split beacon
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charge itself is not cooked so much as the keyword has Problems with supporting itself

#

for a long time charge was 5/6/7 individually sufficient IDs that don't interact with one another

#

now we have AEDD Gregor who is very much a step in the right direction, so is the fact that charge IDs now get charge potency standard instead of only some of them having it as a gimmick

gentle mulch
#

and alsooo Charge IDs count only for skills that gain chargeeeeee

#

because whyyyyyy notttttttt

vagrant dove
#

doing the twining threads pack again, turning up the volume instantly

#

gotta hear that middle boss arena theme

#

it goes so fucking hard

#

music to fight fauvists too

#

also yeah charge is uh

#

not in a good state

keen palm
#

I was looking for a specific meme but also damn am I good

stoic fjord
#

bro knew

cloud wadi
#

10 fusion gift achievement

#

acquired

#

Alongside all the ring related ones

#

Ring ids really do become hilariously op with all these ring ego gifts

atomic steeple
cosmic gorge
#

Hm
Dogrodya and dogsault
Robolu and robofau

I need a third Ring ID to level

Ringsang....

#

*fifth

atomic steeple
#

Agh
KJH, give me sheep ids and my life is yours /j

#

We only have like, heishou don

#

and a bit of that old lob corp don

#

Electric screaming id would be perfect for support

keen palm
cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
#

I think they mean with uptying

ebon forge
bronze zephyr
#

hh i wish there was a more consistent way to get piece of relationship

main scaffoldBOT
#

That's for thread, not tickets šŸ˜…

Carmenā€„ā†©ļø

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) 00 cost 150

ebon forge
#

i swear i remember they cost 150 tickets

cosmic gorge
#

Darnn

split beacon
#

00s cost 150x shards

#

and they're cheaper to uptie

stoic fjord
#

iirc tickets are somewhere closer to around... 60 of each type?

#

which I think is roughly 70 blue tickets.

#

from my memory

#

maybe a bit more or less

atomic steeple
#

Huh, madonka doesn't tank her own sanity with her defense skill
How are you supposed to get her negative?

stoic fjord
#

iirc it happens when you reach enough hysteria or smth

#

she just naturally flip-flops I think

cosmic gorge
#

Also her EGO

stoic fjord
#

ohhh yeah that too

cosmic gorge
#

I have a big brain take

#

EGOs in Limbus are the limbus equivalent of other gacha's signature weapon gacha

stoic fjord
#

yeah

#

sorta

#

it depends on ID but it can be

#

they just haven't really tapped into that angle as much

#

I expect it to be prevalent for when we hit ALEPHs, maybe

cosmic gorge
#

Madonka and her laser
Bullet Outis and her Gun

#

Aweryo and Contempt Awe

#

Fellsang and Fell Bullet? Idk?

stoic fjord
#

it makes it scale more permanently

fickle crown
#

I think the main thing though is that it's not a must-have like with other gachas

#

You can just run whatever EGO and still do fine

stoic fjord
#

100%

#

like

#

in Wuthering Waves, for example

#

since I play/played it

#

Cartethyia has a signature, as every 5* does

#

and like

#

there's a fairly large gap between her signature and anything more accessible

#

iirc

fickle crown
#

What I hate about signature weapons in games like the ones made by hoyo is you physically cannot keep up without eventually getting the sig at some point and the rates are sometimes even more shit than the ones for the actual character

stoic fjord
#

yeah...

atomic steeple
#

Well, MB ego and id is a very good combo

#

Though sanity consuming

fickle crown
#

But yeah, I'm mainly pointing out the fact that it's more like a kit enhancement than a must-have

stoic fjord
#

I do think it's not like, completely necessary, seeing as I played without the sig and it went fine

#

but also yeah way more necessary in other games

fickle crown
stoic fjord
#

I don't actually use the MB E.G.O often and my burn team is fine

fickle crown
#

Also yeah I rarely use Magic Bullet

atomic steeple
stoic fjord
fickle crown
#

Especially because I already have enough in terms of suicidal IDs (runs Cockcliff and ABS Faust in the same burn team)

atomic steeple
fickle crown
#

Lightcones are more like signature gear than weapons

#

Offering buffs and stuff

stoic fjord
fickle crown
#

Yea

#

Also tbh I kinda gave up on HSR early on

#

It just wasn't fun

stoic fjord
#

iirc there it's even more emphasized to get sigs but I forget exactly why

cosmic gorge
#

Huh i didnt lnow
I thought lightcones were a mat

#

That you had to grind to get the actual weapons

atomic steeple
#

Anyway, hoping either don or meursault get an electric screaming id

stoic fjord
#

Meursault

#

Don already has good charge IDs

gentle mulch
#

apparently next up on the roadmap docket is

#

boss challenge?

stoic fjord
#

huh

#

wonder what that is

gentle mulch
#

me too

#

and then the next bokgak

cosmic gorge
gentle mulch
#

oh god

vagrant dove
#

Have mercy

cosmic gorge
#

Break both the weeping frog eyes before killing it

vagrant dove
#

I still have one of those uncleared because i cba

stoic fjord
#

sloth?

cosmic gorge
#

Kill guido, aida and bugman in that order before killing MFE

stoic fjord
#

yo, what the actual fuck

#

wait sorry did I just see fucking BL Outis on the field

#

BL SINCLAIR???

#

is it just to buff up Meursault?

#

or

vagrant dove
#

I do not fw with valencina otherwise, but that fighting style is still

#

Rodya id next drop I beg of thee el director

stoic fjord
#

we JUST got her as Rufo

#

I find Valencina interesting even if I hate her guts

vagrant dove
#

I can HOPE!

#

(Cope)

#

But yeah she's an interesting character

#

As sort of a study into what being stuck in your "glory days" can do

#

The manager Ted was talking about is very comparable to her

cosmic gorge
#

Wait no

#

Has to be a double banner with luciocliff

vagrant dove
keen palm
#

I saw people calling Ted the White Collar

#

Like a color fixer

faint pivot
#

Speak of the damn devil LMAO

#

We were just talking about this chucklefuck

#

...were, I guess

#

@cosmic gorge

#

Would you agree that our monsieur is one salty mf

#

Drop the link boss

#

Need to show this to a friend

cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
#

You put him all over people to give them flavor ig

faint pivot
#

O H

#

Took me a sec

stoic fjord
#

OH LMAO

#

I JUST SAW IT

split beacon
#

yea

stoic fjord
#

wait is.

#

is the cloak also covering the.

#

the part where he-

#

is ||the cloak covering the half of his body that got Toji'd.||

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

okay cool

stoic fjord
main scaffoldBOT
#

šŸ˜•

Madam Poggers (or Juniper)ā€„ā†©ļø

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) I JUST SAW IT

stoic fjord
#

||the shadowing, I believe, lines up exactly with where he got his dome chopped in half after having half his torso removed by Moses||

main scaffoldBOT
#

Ahhhhhh

stoic fjord
#

no. please. please don't do this to me right now

#

I'm so fucked.

#

it's all hopeless

#

yeah she completely cooked me and I don't see a way to win this

gentle mulch
#

the team im using to farm the event currency rn

#

i call it Charge Is In A Good State Right Now

faint pivot
#

Diabolical

gentle mulch
#

Kodion can singlehandedly manage big lady's SP while the rest of them defend themselves by taking good clashes or using Counters, WHICH DO NOT PROC BLEED. and then REAP does her best to support the team while GOAThenheim fuels her super fucking fast

faint pivot
#

The Rufo fight? Or MD?

gentle mulch
#

yeah rufo

faint pivot
#

Ah it is

gentle mulch
#

it is

#

genuinely so obnoxious trying to do this fight consistently with the ring members

#

fortunately

#

charge's stack management is Have It and Spend It

#

and it doesnt go down every turn like SOMEONE

#

looks at poise

#

also i cant bring ANY ego other than base because if I do theyll fucking corrode and ruin the fight

#

just make sure turn 1 goes well

faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

norp

#

it's just having charge iirc

#

either that or you get enough of it that losing 1/turn is immaterial

stoic fjord
#

Iirc it does

#

It's just that because all charge gain is count gain

#

It's much stabler than Poise

gentle mulch
#

danngg

keen palm
#

Gobdeung_2 on Twitter

tired canyon
bronze zephyr
#

anyone have tips for beating MDE matthias?

gentle mulch
#

have bridal + embers and the tcorp badge if possible

#

you want a unit with a lot of aggro to take on turn 1 and proc the revive. have that sinner make unopposed attacks to proc clear mirror and not get fucked. focus down kira

bronze zephyr
#

I dont have bridal, do have the other two

#

using ring hong, fau, meur, yi sang, queen don, AEDD Greg, REAP Shu

gentle mulch
#

the goal is to have every enemy attack focus the temporarily unkillable sinner, then use everything in your power to kill kira as fast as possible

#

if you go beyond like turn 3 just hope you have some sort of sustainability

#

his counters are a losing game to play again

gentle mulch
#

if you dont have bridal im assuming youre proccing a revive

#

building charge + bleed is tricky because i find it most helpful to dip into a little of every status to get the universal offense/defense level down gifts

bronze zephyr
#

wish i had backup units, theyd be helpful in hindsight oops.

gentle mulch
#

theyre pretty much a necessity now

bronze zephyr
#

i dont wanna hve to go back to floor 1 againnn..oh well

gentle mulch
#

the compass is always super good, rupture talisman gift, bleed muzzle gift, etc. stuff that gives you status application without needing the sinners

#

to do it

#

or rather have it on their skills

#

and then pick up stuff like the rupture dust, the siltcurrent glowstick lights things? and whatnot to buff your sinners for Rupture just Existing Somewhere

bronze zephyr
gentle mulch
#

whats your deployment order?

bronze zephyr
#

Ring Hong, Ring Fau, AEDD Gregor, Ring Meur, Queen Don, REAPShu, RIngSang

gentle mulch
#

i dont think this will save you but my personal preference is setting ring fau somewhere later than AEDD since i want the #1 to eat up all the charge and charge support and get as much out of things. and ime ringfau is more useful in her iron maiden form than when she is feeling well enough to come out

#

also i think tcorp badge is on #3? and AEDD already has a revive mechanic, or rather a delay-death mechanic, and you dont necessarily need to double up on that with AEDD

bronze zephyr
#

tcorp badge is 123 if upgraded

gentle mulch
#

ahh my mistake

#

i dont know how ring meur performs so i cant say where he should go

bronze zephyr
#

kk noted ty, ill likely have to reset tho rip

gentle mulch
#

yeah rip

#

sometimes it's just like that which sucks because last md i think was way more managable

bronze zephyr
#

yea fr

main scaffoldBOT
#

Meursault you're in the way

bronze zephyr
#

lmaoo

#

I DID IT

#

i used my level 10 backup units to redirect his normal attacks

#

i feel like a god

tiny cave
cosmic gorge
faint pivot
#

Ahahaha
Punishing Bird
Judgement Bird
How fitting I find the last piece of the puzzle as day 42 begins
||This is the day Angela brings up the River and Big Bird :)||

faint pivot
#

Hah

#

Damn

#

That was easier than I expected

#

I lost an employee to Red Hood before the fight even started

#

So I can just keep on fighting Apo Bird to level up my facility...

#

Little unkeen about keeping a Death Sensitive Abno in my facility but hey I'm sure 4 Aleph White weapons can keep it in check

faint pivot
#

Ok so gameplan

#
  • Save 100% dissolution for later
  • Prepare for Binah's suppression by levelling my nuggets as much as possible
  • Come day 45, do Apo Bird again
#

If the folks in bloody He gear are fine, new hires should be too

mystic ermine
#

had to hard reset my PC ('twas fucketh), aand I lost my lob corp save

#

so
ah
doodles

faint pivot
#

That sucks

#

Angela saw you were going places and decided to butt in early šŸ˜”

faint pivot
vagrant dove
#

Still very intrigued that they confirmed Heathcliff just has WH's abilities

mystic ermine
#

Doodles is a filler word for me

#

Like... toodles!
But... not... like...

#

Stjff

faint pivot
#

Ahhh I see

#

I'm sitting here staring in front of my facility right now imagining my reaction if I lost my save too

#

Terrible!

#

A most woeful event

faint pivot
atomic steeple
#

A good episode

#

that lucky heishou

cosmic gorge
atomic steeple
#

||Got a wife and son||

stoic fjord
#

I don't trust him but he's not Alfonso

#

Wait

#

T Corp color removal

#

Yeah fair

cosmic gorge
faint pivot
#

THREAD

#

MORE THREAD

stoic fjord
#

I mean I know the "fight the boss but harder" thing but

#

What are the rewards

atomic steeple
#

Gimme boxes

stoic fjord
#

It's 6 pages someone hit me with some context please

vagrant dove
#

exp tickets, thread and lunacy

vagrant dove
#

but these are the normal ones

#

no currency rewards thank GOD

#

25 enkeph modules for railways was uh

#

aaaaaaaaaaa

faint pivot
#

Canto 7, 8 and 9 spoilers

stoic fjord
#

Wait isn't this basically mini-railway

faint pivot
#

Yes

cloud wadi
worthy haven
#

It is kinda a pain how fast Fauvist rodion is sadcowboy

stoic fjord
#

I forgot about that bit.

#

That's a bit questionable

worthy haven
#

Be slower so units before can apply debuffs/status!

stoic fjord
#

Ohhhhh yeah fair

cloud wadi
#

and outside of mirror dungeon she just kills people anyways

dusty sigil
atomic steeple
dusty sigil
#

Literally

lean fjord
#

I was gonna say yeah

#

Now I'm wondering
Would Jagg have EGO?

#

I feel like he would

dusty sigil
#

I feel like absolutely

#

Jagganoth is many things but unable to maintain his own view of the world as it’s shattered is not one of them

#

Hell if anything he’s already experienced something that would awaken EGO

#

||He knows, factually, that everything he does is useless. That no matter how many champions he slays and cycles he wins, the wheel will turn and everything did will be for nothing.||

#

||But despite that, he will continue his march to the end of everything||

#

||He will tear the world asunder a thousand times until it is over||

lean fjord
#

Yeah agree

dusty sigil
#

He probably had a conversation with Carmen similar to Vergilius I think

faint pivot
#

@stoic fjord do you have pack-exclusive EGO gift recommendations for either a pure Poise or a Charge Bleed w/ the Ringers run for MDE?

dusty sigil
#

That her way is cowardly

#

That he’d rather walk the path of suffering then relent to the wheel

lean fjord
#

For that one Ring fusion

dusty sigil
#

Is the ring fusion for fauvists or ring in general?

faint pivot
#

MOTWE?

#

Oh the Warp pack

lean fjord
#

Yes

lean fjord
dusty sigil
#

Ahh okay

lean fjord
#

It also has a fusion that buffs Ring

#

The magical girl Walp pack also has some good charge gifts

faint pivot
#

True, going there either way tbh

#

Realized I didn't clarify this was for MDE

lean fjord
#

I assumed yeah

mystic ermine
#

GOODNESS GRACIOUS

stoic fjord
#

Ring packs being Twining Threads and Blade & Artwork

stoic fjord
bronze zephyr
#

What could this mean

fickle crown
#

KQE NT aberration theory dead...

stoic fjord
keen palm
#

She doesn't seem to have been changed particularly much

wintry fiber
lean fjord
#

The first two numbers IIRC show the type of abnormality

stoic fjord
#

I thought it was the combat strength

bronze zephyr
#

Oh rly? Interesting

stoic fjord
lean fjord
#

Actually let me check
It's the letter and the first two IIRC

eternal gull
wintry fiber
#

That's at the end

stoic fjord
#

Ohhhhh ok

eternal gull
#

-# I read lobotomy not limbus

eternal gull
#

was it even canto 2

#

or 3

stoic fjord
eternal gull
#

I genuinelly forget

#

thats how much I forget it

#

I hate it that much my own brain attempts to reject it

stoic fjord
#

I like canto 2 because it's funny and important for Rodion's characterization

wintry fiber
eternal gull
#

yeah but its dungeon isnt even worthy to be pissed on ngl

bronze zephyr
#

According to wiki the letter is abno type and the second number is district found in, we don’t know about first and third number?

wintry fiber
#

If I'm remembering correctly

stoic fjord
#

It's the weakest Canto but it's still not a bad story overall imo

eternal gull
#

literally not evne worthy of a bin

#

anyways my undying hatred for its dungeon over

lean fjord
#

05 is machine or artifact

eternal gull
#

yeah its a good story still

lean fjord
#

02 is animalistic

wintry fiber
#

Mmm

lean fjord
#

06 on KQE was Abstract

#

Changed to machine

stoic fjord
#

Wait no

#

T?

lean fjord
#

And same for Steam Machine

stoic fjord
bronze zephyr
#

How’d y’all get first number means type, I’m not seeing a pattern

#

For some

stoic fjord
#

Waiting for the A Corp originating abno

lean fjord
#

Okay wait I see
It's not directly confirmed

bronze zephyr
#

I don’t recall that

#

Yeah

lean fjord
#

The wiki is just speculating

stoic fjord
keen palm
#

What does Ring Lu's little Flourish before Faust SK3s even do

gentle mulch
#

offense up

#

it's a free 2 clash power

lean fjord
#

Small buff yeah

gentle mulch
#

if i recall correctly extra skills also generate ego resources

stoic fjord
#

I wish it was easier to fuel fluid sac in a cohesive team

#

Actually wait classic Wuthering Heights sinking might work

dusty sigil
#

Sinking fuels it quite well yah

stoic fjord
#

Yeah I've been trying to use it on bleed tho

#

Almost zero gloom in ring bleed

dusty sigil
#

Envy and gloom are in abundance and lust is reasonably common

stoic fjord
#

Thank you for trying, Rodion. I appreciate it.

dusty sigil
#

What about Meursault?

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
#

Ah damn

keen palm
#

Ringsang and Ringdion both have Gloom Skill 1s though

#

That's a lotta gloom

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
#

You can also fuel bygone days ishmael for healing

#

Been using that and hex nail rodya for my ring bleed team

tired canyon
#

w

#

where

#

where did he go

#

sinclair?????

#

???????????????????

bronze zephyr
#

LMAO

atomic steeple
#

Clear all sinclair

hybrid lynx
#

you pulled a certain one, but he's elsewhere

bronze zephyr
#

Man how is MFE a waw-8 and doomsday calendar a he-8 those are not stronger than slitcurrent surely

atomic steeple
#

It's still active, but weakening over time

bronze zephyr
#

For doomsday maybe but MFE is a railway fight

atomic steeple
#

At this rate we'll fight an aleph without deterrence at all
sweating

lean fjord
#

with Doomsday it's hard to say yeah, since the deterrence was still more strongly affecting it in Canto 1

#

which is also why Ebony Apple was a lot stronger when we fought it again in canto 9

neat cedar
#

to most people

#

the contract to damte and the goldenbough guves us some protections from.some.of the worse mental effects against abnos

#

the danger rating is not based on the danger to the sinners but to people in general

cloud wadi
#

we gotta feed ishmael to the singing machine

main scaffoldBOT
#

W-why?

#

MFE is a WAW because it’s a pain in the ass tbh

Dawnmon (Kutuzov <3)ā€„ā†©ļø

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Man how is MFE a waw-8 and doomsday calendar a he-8 those are not stronger than slitcurrent surely

atomic steeple
main scaffoldBOT
#

Why is this the first gif result for that

split beacon
atomic steeple
#

You know, w corp has been built up a lot more than r corp

#

R corp needs stuff

sudden arch
cloud wadi
ebon forge
#

Its all her fault

cloud wadi
#

what

#

no I just like throwing ishmael into the singing machine

main scaffoldBOT
#

but why

atomic steeple
cloud wadi
main scaffoldBOT
#

why do you like throwing her into the singing machine

cloud wadi
#

because it makes a really pretty noise when you do

gentle mulch
#

KIMMMMM

#

WHERE ARE YOU

vagrant dove
#

He's in the next intervallo trust

keen palm
#

Kim is dead

gentle mulch
#

PLEASEEEE

cloud wadi
#

do you think kim will have the privilege of having a face

#

in the next intervallo

main scaffoldBOT
#

I hope his face is always covered by his hat

atomic steeple
#

Ethan winters style

vagrant dove
#

he takes his hat off and there's just another hat underneath

main scaffoldBOT
#

He got a prosthetic and his head is literally just the hat

bronze zephyr
#

finished leviathan, i knew schadenfreude was in it but lmao thats wacky

main scaffoldBOT
#

Is it just us, or is the twinning thread MD pack harder than other packs?
(By harder we mean everyone clashes better)

lean fjord
#

Alright, that's the event stages cleared I think

#

Fumbled the boss pretty bad I think, but still won

#

Bumbled my way through with my tri status MD team, because I could get the easiest event bonus that way

atomic steeple
#

I'd be a green color fixer
Hana assoc finding hints of non green in my outfit to give me another color
"Ah yes, the orange [something]"

bronze zephyr
#

oh yeah chat anyone know where i can read distortion detectife

uneven canopy
#

yea its still on official posting

vagrant dove
#

This is where I read it. It is technically unfinished videogames

#

But still very good

atomic steeple
#

Unique charge: Spoons
Spent more than regular charge count on use

fickle crown
#

That and it also sets the entire room ablaze when it's pissed and can near instantly kill everything in front of it when its timer is up

#

The only reason we weren't suffering like 20 burn potency per turn was because it was so heavily suppressed

#

Doomsday Calendar also strikes me as one of those annoying ass finicky abnormalities with a sacrifice gimmick

atomic steeple
#

Dreaming electric sheep could be fun in lob corp
When loose, a generator appears and you must have nuggets grab the plugs to put on the sheep

fickle crown
#

But yeah, Doomsday Calendar is probably one of those HE abnormalities that will throw more of a fit instead of directly breaching

cosmic gorge
fickle crown
#

And also probably make other abnormalities breach instead

#

With uh

#

Y'know

cosmic gorge
#

The generator generation is randomized

fickle crown
#

The earthquake stuff

#

An actually interesting thought is Doomsday Calendar having increasingly worsening effects the longer it takes for you to give it offerings

#

Oh my fucking god

#

It's probably one of those shitty abnos with a timer on it too

#

That wants you to always pay attention to it

stoic fjord
#

Express Train to Hell 2

fickle crown
#

Doomsday Calendar being a HE-08 because it has several annoying fucking gimmicks sounds in line for it

vagrant dove
#

One of those abnos you just never want in the facility

#

Because it's not worth the hassle

fickle crown
#

The fetus...

#

Fucking

#

Despise that thing

#

Especially when it eats one of your best agents

stoic fjord
#

Nameless Fetus is the one character in PMoon more detestable than Matthias

fickle crown
#

At least CENSORED has the wherewithal to just breach instead of hiding in the containment unit like a fucking coward

cloud wadi
#

someone came up with a pretty good theory on shin and mang

#

which i'll transplant here

atomic steeple
#

Trans plant

cloud wadi
#

The proper noun ā€˜Shin’ «신(心)Ā» is based on the Japanese pronunciation of the Han Chinese character, and pertains to the mind.```
fluid whale
cloud wadi
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In the original Korean version, Vergilius’ description of various emotions all have Ā«ė§Ā» (Mang) present in them, such as: ķ¬ė§ (Hope), ģ ˆė§ (Despair), ģ‹¤ė§ (Disillusion), źø°ė§ (Expectation). As indicated in this book’s title, Ā«ė§Ā» is also the pronunciation of the Han character Ā«ęœ›Ā», meaning ā€œfull moonā€. Given that Vergilius was originally a Roman poet, we’ve elected to use the Latinate ā€œlunaā€ (pl. ā€œlunaeā€) alongside the emotions that evoke Ā«ė§Ā» to give a similar effect when not specifically referring to Mang as a proper noun.

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It was neither the augmentation, blood pressure, nor the contraction of muscles.
 
The only thing that moved was the mind.
Kicking off with a recoil of the heart, I returned through the broken door presented by the hall.
 
So this is the power of the Light she mentioned…
The power of sin.```
fickle crown
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I still think that it's nice how Shin and Mang aren't inherently unhealthy to the power scaling of the City

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Not like I'm good at that but

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It's just another layer on the system

cloud wadi
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What's so important about the Moon?

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Moon doesn't glow on its own

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it only reflects

fickle crown
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I think the other thing to mention is Bari

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And the potential link that has to her

cloud wadi
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[7:46 PM]Monday, April 20, 2026 7:46 PM
You must

reflect upon your own sins```
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on difference between distortion/ego vs Shin/Mang

it's the difference between a deeper understanding of who you are as implied by the mediation of the realm of the Real and the realm of the human subconscious, the "well" which allows us to tap into the light within all human beings, the light they lost; versus a comparitively superficial comprehension of your own emotional state, self reflection and self-control without reaching some sort of self-actualization

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which is why Dante cannot detect presence of Shin and Mang

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because Shin and Mang aren't from the Source

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Shin/Mang users aren't self actualized

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in and of itself

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they only reflect the light, not tap into it from within

stoic fjord
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the game can give me Rien when I'm doing a ring run but when I do an index run he's fucking nowhere to be seen

tiny cave
stoic fjord
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...ok so I got Callisto. on my index run

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after getting Rien on my Ring run

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KJH is ragebaiting

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also holy shit they're fucking me up

tiny cave
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Callisto is pretty hard yeah

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Rien is by far the easiest, even F15 furioso does very little damage if cracked

stoic fjord
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it's all hopeless

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what the fuck

cosmic gorge