#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.
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is how it approaches the fact the difference between being told about something
and remembering it
I think their emotional state is somewhat anchored by the contract?
i also like how it shows why cathy is treated the way she is
True, even while ||actively distorted, the Ticking still brings Heath back||
ye a lot of this canto serves a s similar over all role
to the LCE
further clarifying concepts about the world as well as checking in how everyone is doing and reaffirming their resolve or seeing where they still have room to grow
also what i like is that the cantos are changing in focus
i feel like what might be happening is closer to something like
yeah, they're widening out
rather than just resolving someone's issues or giving closure in some way
it's no longer just about the sinners
they're now more about expressing the traumas and new paths
aw...............
so like, Hong Lu had a happy ending, but that's because they've opened him up to face his own problems

Seeing like
normal behavior and places
in the ci5y
always feels so weird
wven though it makes sense
but for Don, it's just a beginning of another story
it can't always be shit
and Ryoshu has a bigger goal to learn about
ngl i feel like Heath might never get Cathy back somehow
or if he does, he'll be doing so in a different way
HEHEHHEE
aaahhh~
the story is great
||I adore that ryoshu is speaking in a way that makrs her acronyms more legible||
||A nice subtle way to show her opening up morr||
||I also like how she has a bit of an odd old sister vibe going on with Kira||
||I can't believe Sinclair's comment actually got through to her in some heartwarming way - you know, about understanding the acronym immidiately?||
||Mhmm.||
||YERRP||
I love the limbus translators
||callisto is never andnshould never live down being called robo-unc||
||beginning to wonder if there will ever be repercussions to "ab"using Malkuth as much as Dante seems to do in the Intervallo...||
||I wonder if there are even more then 5 ring groups š ||
oh speaking of
hm?
||The name of the maestro is two middle names if a famous Fauvist painter||
can i say by thebway
the ring's theme
fuckon bops
so hard
I like it a looot
"i low[redacted]kenuinely framemogged this artsmaxxing clavic[al/cular] maestro cuh"
- kira to ryoshu
alright we're going some steps too far
...
actually not really?
iounno
the language evolution from now to then in slang must be insane, in all fairness
...really hope that ||Araya will keep interacting with Ryoshu throughout the story the way she does in the Intervallo, it seems... kind of heartwarming, honestly||
kira trolling don be like
larp larp larp sahur jusissmaxxing shakespeargooning six-seven-thousand year uncfiend
god i hate these sentences
Jussis!!
Jusssiiiis!!!
chrm
sorry, I quite liked the April fools event
More.
MORE
NOOO SHOW UUUS
RHAAAA
do we. do we have anything on v corp?
Nothing but the pin they wear
i know we have something on s corp, they do agriculture iirc
So perhaps I was wrong on the space folding tech
sounds to me more like they want to ||establish routes through the Backdoor... sounds like a lot of clashing with the Ring along the way.||
...
wait then how the shit does the whole ||portal fuckery|| work?
IT IS JUST THE BACKROOMS
HAH
FUCK YEAH
yerp
the fact that we can't tell says a lot about the quality of the franchise
that is to say it's high
I like it
PJM is incredibly unsubtle with their inspirations
Wait...
is... is this the...
||IS THIS THE FUCKING HAIR SALON??? HEATHCLIF!!! GET YOUR FUCKING COUPONS RHAAAA||
how long until we ||fight one of those entities?||
YEEEEEEEEES
WITH THIS ||SACRED TICKET, I SUMMON THEE, RICARDO||
I...
never considered thgat ||Kira, Don and Ryoshu would have such common ground to speak on...||
huh
Chrm
Foreshadopwing is a literary device used in media to hint at points coming later in the story
bashing in your skeleton
haaaaaaaaaaaah
Who said that Lob. Corp was inspired by SCP again?
ourgh my fuck
did ||Matthias butcher the school?||
HOLY SHIT
aah...
kind of... beginning to think the same goes for all of them
the more we learn about the ||Nursefathers, the worse it gets||
What's next? ||Valencina did more than just beat the shit out of her?||
||is SA on the table for this? I'm beginning to severly doubt the morals in the City||
||you know what, that comment immidiately triggered a "oh no shit" thought in my head - I wonder if there are taboos on rape? thinking about all the fucked up stuff in the City, it is surprising that we haven't even had a tangential remark to that other than that one worker drone in LoR in the Circus... and even that one was a registered worker getting benefits because they were going along with it rather than being forcefully pulled into it||
heh
She's a gem, can we keep her
we're getting ||Outis foreshadowing? what the fuck?||
||she is next after meursault after all||
||Deliberate choice by the team to not go down that route||
||For understandable reasons of it being potentially tasteless at points and also a very easy subject to either be a tad too real and depressing or very easy to get wrong||
hm, true, but I like to think there's an-universe explanation for this
...Meta feels... bland in this situation
and it ||feels right to have that slight shed of hope from the Head that at least that is barred||
Up to you but personally, it just being a topic the writers don't want to touchnis fine by me and also about as much thought as i want to out into the topic
the City is already plenty bleak as a setting without having to consider the possibilities of how fucked that anglr can get
||HUH! Rodion saying that's that, this is this (backstreets), Gregor saying he isn't special, Hong Lu saying that he ignored the pains of the world... the more I look through this, the more this... haaaah||
mh, that is ture
true*
||The themes do be theming bigly||
||They are all fighting the disease of the mind||
...what is ||the disease of mind?||
greed? complacency? indifference?
I think that it's every... ah
||how do I put this... the Trauma of the Sephirah? perhaps?||
aawwww ||Lucio was that close to genuinely fucken Killing Valencina... and swapping sides, too||
goodness, working ||Valencina like a horse||
...
good
||THAT'S WHY ROLAND WASN'T ALLOWED INTO THE NEST?!||

IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN
oh
OH
HOLY SHIT NEVERMIND
Speechless
Wait, the Rusty Commemaritive Coin is...
aaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
"It's alright, Since I can live on"
Oh...
aw...
Right, ||Rien||
still makes me sad
||Sora...
||
HEHEHEHHEHEE
AAAAAAAAAAAAH
Right, almost forgot he had a ||Torture basement, nevermind||
Hm.
Yes
Hm.
there isn't like a core definition but it's basically why the city hardly ever grows in a positive direction
a general malaise, at least as i understand it
I thought it was apathy tbh
...wait, Dante saw ||Araya's Memories? maybe the 13th Sinner mentioned during C.H's entire flaming head sequence before Malkuth is... is her?||
especially since she literally carried the ||chain back to Ryoshu||
13th sinner is Yuri trust
I'm gonna have to wait till the weekend to play the intervallo I think 
Work and exams
that's part of it, but i also think it's an all encompasing metaphor for all of the reasons for whynpeople choose not to maks the world better
it's not so much a single emotion but a general weight that keeps everyone stagnant
wait, whoever talked abotu V Corp
that's the music one
where the Pianist was
next to N Corp
HEY
HEY I KNOW THIS ROOM
WAIT
...I never noticed the child's Crib... that makes it...
haaaaah.... aw....
yyeeeeeeeeeaaaaah
:(
really nails in the despair
Rien is such a fraud he has a knocked over bottle of wine instead of an empty beer can
And no PZA
||Note this is Rien's old home and(probably) not roland's. Butnthen again maybe it was also rolands||
...hah
waves
...a drawing made by... by... ||the family before the H.O.S||
i have to show appreciation to PJM
for making Kira actually a bit.muscular and having abunch of old scars
like, girl has abs
...oh
That entire thing made me sad
no more sad you are so right
yeeeaah
like after spending so much time playing gacha that refuse tondo that, it's nice to see
i like how like
strong people look strong, lots of times
and for every soft girl, there's an equally soft boy lol
mhmm
and for every woman who you can think is a dude, there is a dude you think is a woman
Project moon will never stop with the power of androgynous design
tho we hsven't gotten a recent example of that in a while
I feel like all the index proxies from ||this intervallo|| are fairly andro?
AAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWJKNLMFSDALK,JHDLKJHSDAFDAS
Named chars though, yeah
Not sure about ||Benoit but sheās covered head to toe in a fursuit||
||I love the fancy embossed knife||
...incredible design, honesty
Rodion wears the drip better
Ah, but Rodion is the Maestro
guys
this is the DOcent
whar
Rodion is a docent lol
reverse of beat the boss before the nerf
oh fuck off I am just at that point
ye
Rodion is a docent
Yeah, the Ring Fauvist Docent Rodion
I
thought she was the
nope
the maestro shows up but we don't face them
Docents are still a big deal
equal to capos/Big bros
said that right as Faust did
||Remember that one of the pieces was the eye of a second kindred in the fauvist gallery||
||Specifically a gallery that only held pieces by docents and students||
as always with the Ring
On some fucked up level I heavily fuck with what they're saying
yyoouuu make a good point
the only reason why ||Callisto|| didn't tear us to shreds is because he was getting his art appraised
...what was it... -20 offence and defence level and -40% damage?
Because we had buffclair lol
yeah, ||Callisto the worse dad ||was playing with us
also ||The kira power scaling with thr maestro was crazy||
Sourcematerial titledrooop
||She managed while weakened, to block a maestro's attack||
||An attack which turns Don into paste instantly||
THERE'S MORE FACTIONS TO THE RING?!
||the blaue-reiters replaced thencorporists||
||Remember, Callisto'a school fell out of fashion, so it makes sense something took it's place||
THEY'RE AURA FARMING
I donāt think the ring has a limited number of schools? But the school needs a maestro and thereās no other Corporist maestros until a docent feels like reviving it
thank you!
oh definitely, i more meant as far as like
the big factions
Someone is out there stanning Classicalism
||"Well, peopel look much better "abbreviated""||
goodness Ryoshu
GFEAR
...interesting, I want to ||lose the clash...||
Ngl I didnāt read what this boss did
Didnāt even slot the right sinners
Sheās not very difficult
"Yo."
well she now has 6 morr levels to play with
but yeah
it's a fight that feels scary but is fine if you just
pay attention
Huh, Corporism really is washed
Sinners asking meursault for pointers on funeral
I appreciate the gesture, but
wait
no
beginning to realise all my skills are struggling, too
WAIT NO
RENCLAIR
GO
LOCK DOWN THE CLASH
Very Cinema
HE FIVE PERCENTED RIGHT AS I SAID
Doujinshi school, hmm
Alyssa x sinclair
oh hey, interesting
mh
true, she is of German Sourcematerial
haaah I just looked at the book I have on my desk
Faust I
...have to read it for the finals
Mirror world observatorium department
graaaah
i awaken
time to avoid spoilaaars
also i am being asked to download 1.something MB again..
oh no....
benchmarkk
Ah.
The second ||War is inbound.||
||lovely||
hehehe
HEHEHEHE
...
this feels cozy
I like that atmosphere
aawww
that means it was a ||precious memory||
oh
nevermind
||Araya did that||
WAIT SHE FORGOT THE ||COOKING?!||
aaawww.... that just hit me....
Hohenheim mentions the method ayin used to get information from binah, ||and that it could have been used on kira||
that did NOT clock with me in the slightest, you are so right
aaaawwwwwwww...
AAAAWWWW
Myo reference!
Lets fucking goooooooooooooooooo!
||Kira: fixers who go out in a blaze of glory aren't actually the strong ones. It's the ones who survive... the ones who live to se another day and keep getting stronger||
...I know I've said it before but
but this Intervallo felt Cozy
nice? comfy? I guess?
I like it
Y'know
Looking at the new IDs
Yeah uhhh
I don't see them replacing my bloodfiends anytime soon
ring rodion might replace princess but
i dont see ringsault replacing prince
haven't tried em tho
I think princess is still useful just off of the mass buffing she can do with her S2 and attack weight on S3 (even if windup is long)
That and much better sustain due to self healing
princess atk weight s3 is second only to pregor coin reuse s3 in terms of rarity
Ah yea
I will admit I also prefer her for her passive
That bottom part seems a little overlooked at times
it's a pretty low amount because of the 10 per skill cap
Eh, 10 HP is 10 HP tbh
I do feel kinda tempted to try throwing her into a hybrid bleed/envy team
It kind of reminds me of Ryoshu's pass on lyrics
...huh?
I didn't read for this boss honestly I just followed the prescript and it worked out
Truthnuke
I kinda wonder how that works mechanically
Especially for a fight against the Index
Like... is Paper Slip Faust getting a prescript that tells her to kill that specific index proselyte?
Why is the will of the city telling its followers to slime each other out
hermes and moirai hate each other
prolly
but the city demands violence
whoever wins the sliming is more deservant of the grace of the city or something idk
Isn't Moirai just the Weaver for a loom
yeah
Get reading slag (but imagine this was said nicely)
haaaaaaah
If you do the reading then you can better appreciate the depths of our directors vision
Did u know if you read all the source books you unlock the special menhara director 14th sinner
Very few know this because only canto 9 players have begun to learn how to read
Is kira the myolga baby?
It all makes sense
I do think they are just separate teams tbh
Myolga agenda
Is the reason this heart beats!
But yea
This team is kinda dumb NGL but also
It's kinda funny
So I'll definitely try using it anyways
What does this even mean š
I'm sure this will hold up well in modern content
???
?
Oh, Alan sucks. ||And is probably enhanced with esoteric tech for fighting||
Eight association mention
0/10 not enough sloshmael
Noooo
House tepes, huh
Actually this is reminding me to threadspin my EGOs
Ćmile BenoĆ®t
lmao
I wish we had seen pilot and saude
true
but thatd be heavy
i was mostly laughing at ||the distorition breach caused by some new hire||
Also
Distortion breach
Are they keeping Distortions to turn into abnos?
i presume Limbus has the morality of a Minecraft player with a mob farm
so yes
also idk about you folks but ||Rufo|| mauled me
spent 40 lunashi bc i dont want to do another 10 minutes
Now that Iāve actually slept, good intervallo
Other people said it but it really does feel like the epilogue to canto 9
Wrapping up the thematics of it and showing us more to contextualize the Ryoshu we know
Also ||Araya now being a sheath whoās trying to get her mom to be less cringe is really funny||
ryo's angel and devil
araya trying to get her to be less cringe
kira trying to get her to be more cringe
I did it
Beat intervallo first try
Kira needs more fucking recognition y'all
If I did the last node with a Burn team I feel like I would've been fine but damn
Minor intervallo spoilers
From a full deployment down to 3 sinners
Thank you Ring Outis for the Magic Bullet but
Thank you hard carry Kira for providing 30 Burn pot and enough Bleed for this to not be a loss
my youtube algo knows im a hater
Yem.
Me when fucking limbus company is a better adaption of the book than Hollywood media
Hey not her fault it's the most apt visual indicator
In Hollywood's defense tis a pretty high bar
Truā¦
i could rant about the incurious privileged rich person vibe of emerald's writing and how shes consistently portrayed the poc and poor as evil upstarts disturbing the peace of the clueless but good rich guys While also continuously ramping up the sex of things in a crass and unaesthetic way
but i would be here for too long
Wasnāt raised by a nursefather for nothing eh?
tbf isn't the source material also pretty harsh on heathcliff
Yes but not in this way
While they were never there the apprentices were ultimately training to go 1-1 with RyÅshÅ« in their relative fields
heathcliff was a terrible person in the book but we see how abuse and discrimination turned him into that
and how him and cathy genuinely made each other worse
but also heath's non-whiteness is essential to how he was treated
(I'll give the floor to Thyme since he's done this a few times + I've still a B.R. to complete)
he needs to be visibly Different in some way yeah
you could pivot it to another axis, as long as it's visible
Were we not keyed into this in canto 3?
the movie is an exercise of ignoring aaalll of that uncomfy Othering in favor of hollowing out Bronte's book about the cycle of abuse and the destructiveness of love to fill in emerald's shallow shockhorny pseudo-booktok slop that turns heathcliff into some desirable brooding dominant guy whose abuse of isabella is turned into an S&M thing
||Another moment||
like
its the equivalent of writing an original property but burrowing the marketable name of an existing one
thats how it feels somewhat
50 shades of wuthering?
mmhmm
it makes me so mad
leave it to the rich child of gemstone traders to take a book that takes a shot at the immorality of rich people and then
make it a book about spicy immorality between two white leads while also subtextually turning the poc/poor characters into villains again
It's like if PMoon announced a Limbus 2 unironically but what you get is IWantLunazy's stuff
...hm
Tis an insult to IWantLunazy
Like I expected Thyme said it best lmao
Retracting what I said, the gulf between the novel & that paper towel tape is enormous
Only got to do the first battle node
Do more of the event later
So Fauvists want the members to pick an animal as their fursona for the rest of their lives
Ryoshu and hohenheim care about kira
Also ryoshu is still a dork
"Sweet! Is my sword possessed by a demon? Nice to meet you, demon!"
canto 9 is just adorkable characters
||The Beastblade was honestly...rather cruel!||
||Araya|| facepalming
I'm a few hours late but poise and sinking
So I have 3 ring units
That should be 5 tableau decrease per turn. 6 turns to activate closing time
When I get meursault, it'll be 6 decrease, thus 5 turns
With rodya and yi sang, 8 decrease per turn.
4 turns
Someone earlier said among all the sinners Rodya would be the one to have the seed of light and with the callbacks to LobCorp and Ruina I feel like this is intentional
F15, 60 ADVERSITY ||RIEN|| on the last possible Node
I imagine it would certainly be rare because there's always gonna be someone who wants you fucking dead
rien is the easiest tbh
You may say that but that is my nr1 sinner with every tremor, sinking and charge gift on her
yeah clashing is gonna suck
but its not mathias instant kill counters x2
or valencina 90 rolling evade
you're generally fine clashing after turn 1 and even with mde buffs cracked furioso doesn't do that much
plus he targets all the same sinner so you can just let unhatched embers/t corp badge/etc. revive that sinner for t1
Those were proselytes, their passive even references the lockblades proxies get
Bookmark befre I sleep @faint pivot
Sheās actually legit disappointed upon discovering that her sword isnāt possessed by a devil
as if her sword isnt already insane
hmm
not bad
No Rodion is also the Docent
KIRA UPSCALE!!!!!
KirGOAT is infinitely better than that fraud Bumtthias
Mb I was backreading and stopped
||why do people insist that araya got incinerated
she is
right there||
What kinda charge effects do you all hope to see in the future?
Misunderstanding/misreading
Plus forgetting the explanation of how ||Arayashiki|| actually works (the one now in Danteās notes)
chargefeast
really just hoping for more charge support stuff
more reasons to build a charge team and not just charge units + envy res
Also man, with the intervallo clarifying the timelineā¦
What did Valencina do to fall so hard from the thumb?
Since apparently it wasnāt her performance in the smoke war
don't really know for sure
Talked shit, far as we know
i think there's been a theory that she fucked up etiquette procedure Bad in front of a higher-up
I mean itās the thumb so thatās
Very possible
Iām just wondering how bad it mustāve been that she didnāt just lose her tongue but get exiled from her Familia
Since losing your tongue doesnāt go away for high ranking thumb members
bad enough to lose a Relic and fancy sword on her
there's a theory I follow that says that the fuckup wasn't with a higher up
Oh?
Elaborate
she extended lienience to a lower rank?
That would explain her obsession with hierarchy over actual decorum that we see in the beginning of the canto, like, correcting herself and her past mistakes
the tldr is that if you break hierarchy upwards you lose a lot of shit and get your associates potentially killed too
but imagine you have a new boss in this environment and she's constantly acting outside of the hierarchy @ her subordinates in a sorta awkward way in front of other families in the Thumb. It's not wrong but it's embarrassing to the top of the top
Ohhhh yeah I get what you mean
I think it makes sense with this as I said
God
I need Valencina Rodion already
I gotta know what the fuck she did
We got a lot of insight of Callistoās backstory via his ID
I hope the other nursefathers are similar
Also man, with the talks about how all power comes at some kind of cost and Dante repeatedly spamming Malkuth
Thereās gonna be some consequences next canto I bet
On a scale of "Ryoshu is weird about W and T Corp" to "Don't grieve everything at once.", this foreshadowing is on the end of "Don't grieve everything at once."
No Rodigor this intervallo is killing me
The ||Random Korean Office Building|| was really jarring
KJH blue balled us so hard with the biggest Rodigor moment of the entire game so far only for them to not interact this intervallo
Also ||i want us to fight some backrooms entities||
We must trust El Director's vision
||gregor and ted office yaoi||
I still do, thereās still to much connecting them, but still itās fucked up
The ||Fauvist guys just popping out like random encounters is kinda funny to me||
Btw people with ring rodya, whats her uptie story say
I havenāt read it yet
Dante just going "KILL THEM ALL" was really funny to me
Our shuckaroonies manager knows not to hesitate to make a kill order
Dante is learning from Vergilus to throw hands on sight with the ring
GAH
THE SNACK THIEF RETURNS
THIS ABSOLUTE DEMON, THIS SCOUNDREL, THIS FOOD FILCHER
THIS SCURRILOUS SNACK SNATCHER
he can't stop
he's even more diabolical than Rodion
The part where she halfheartedly yells at a dead lucio to get up/wonder out loud where he is...
this man NEEDS to be stopped
AND HE GETS TO BE A COLOR FIXER? WHAT A SICK JOKE
"The Prescript said we had to make out"
This is the second riensang/callilu ship post ive seen
Valencina makes me hate her and cry for her and wish everything was different and-
Also interesting tidbit
||Kira responds directly to Dante on multiple occassions, answering specific questions||
...wait gregor said that he tried to cut off his arm a lot but it always grows back
what if he ||got ryoshu to use arayashiki on it||
Yo who the fuck said the Docent wouldn't be as tough as Ricky or the Big Heng
This shit has been beating my ass for the past hour
I can't farm the currency this boss genuinely farms me
I did it first try idk
Oh I did too
I'm just trying to farm it now
And miserably failing
Not the first time this has come up in this channel lol
Itād probably work in the strictest sense but I doubt Greg would ultimately be happy with the results, if youād permit me to speculate
huh you saying that made me think
||what if gregor is 'the dream' of the ungziefer kaiser. as in, a personality created to be interactable with as opposed to something which exists only to propagate and devour. why that would be the case, idk, but it was a flash thought anyway||
I felt like it, so I solod the ||Docent||
...
okay fine ||Kira|| did a lot of heavy lifting (being a punchin bag) but heyx
hmm
that intervallo was very, VERY much not about introducing new characters so much as processing what we already went through huh
good stuff though.
I feel like we always get Corp characters as fodder who die to the scary Finger
I feel like once we get to N Corp we are going to experience "oh god oh fuck it's the corp employees I'm so boned"
time to be in N Corp for another year
which like I'm really happy about since yk. the usual formula is Introduce New Rollable Character and Never Process things and now it's like
just release an ID and process stuff
the antagonists were a little thin but the story was rock solid
oh yeah i forgot
i haven't finished the Canto but so far it's been like Wow Really Good Character Moments
and then the Fauvists appear for some fucking reason
intervallo*
peetah the Fauvists are here
inliked thw insights into the ring's culture theyngave us, as well as serving ad a catalyst to hetter understandnwhay makes ryoshu standout
yeah pretty much
the aura
Knowing Meursault, Maestro Hong Lu finds it aesthetically pleasing and Caposault has been hanging around at the House of Spiders too often and just letting the Maestro ramble at him and try to indoctrinate him into the same art sensibilities
Also I read a thing that says that its implied Callisto was the one who killed Rien's family?
I think that this theory turned out to be wrong with the whole "are you here to disobey the Prescript" thing in Rien's passives
oh also I wasn't here last night when people were playing the Intervallo and reacting but uh
||Gods, huh? Outis?||
||Looks like the Index connection to Outis is real after all||
I have some really particular things I could say
Noticing how all but 1 of Gregorās PTSD flashbacks is related to a woman
This is because Gregor is scared of women
I canāt see that tbh
Callisto is a super murderer artist but I feel like he would be be as like, angry with Rien if he did kill his family?
I donāt think heād be guilty persay but more like
He wouldnāt be going on about Rien not knowing right or wrong
Theres a line about how Callisto brutally murdered someone and is talking to someone who is there to defy the prescript
where from
"You're not supposed to be here right now."
"My work is still much underway, and I'd like to carve them up in peace so they can attain the most exquisite beauty I can sculpt."
"... Don't tell me, are you here to defy the Prescript?"```
Oh huh
Maybe then
Though I guess it could be any ring member, they do all love doing that
Charon: Charon, Super Sulky Mode engaged. Not talking for half a day.
Verg: Deploying Super Pass Bitter Candy
Charon: ... Beep, beep. Mode disabled
Rodion: That's that, and this is this
I also think its noticeable that Rien did actually almost or did defy the prescripts
Ah, moses taught shin to vespa
Hm, augmentations have upkeep costs
Verg going to a car mechanic to do maintenance on his legs
His last action before he died was deciding not to read the poem of loving sorrow
Citing how tired he was
Oh, so the sinner contract ||makes using shin harder||
Idk, I think I get it
Itās a lot of symbolism and metaphor thatās not actually saying anything
busting out ye olde "your art is overcomplicated and your critical language is too referential to itself and other critiques" is kind of, you know
complaining that ink has been spilt before you got there
"not saying anything" is an empty critique if you don't actually put in the effort to grasp what the symbols are supposed to mean
very un-Suprematist of me but structuralism has merits
kira: idk its just goreslop
Dang, randomly entering a portal to n corp must be dangerous, considering all their taboos you could break, like recording
Idk I feel like with the way fauvists have been characterized so far theyāre very much, focused on their art posing questions but nothing more
Theyāre about exploring the differences, or lack there of, of man and animal
But without actually coming to a conclusion of their artwork
Making it feel half baked at best
it was my impression that ryoshu did have the experience to familiarize herself with the rings' movements and supposed deeper meanings, and just went "idc lol"
And honestly, quite trite
callisto's work iirc was also about defining things like where the corpus is after shuffling it a bunch
Fauvism is the artistic equivalent to ripping a bong hit and going āwoah⦠arenāt humans the real animals?ā
Poor saru
To me Ryoshu's critiques ring true for the Ring as they are people beholden to deritive rote rather than actual true self expression
Yah
The only people who thrive in the Ring are people who can correctly interpret art in the "right way" rather than in any meaningfully unique individual way
i think pointilism could actually achieve something if they worked on abnos
Whatās pointillism again?
Ohh
For a moment thought the Malkuth status was two twisted nails
Which makes sense to me that theyd be interested in mirror worlds
Because when theres infinite yous, what does you even mean?
It's interesting that Fauvism got brought up without pointing out that Fauvism is a school of painting that expands on the Impressionist notion of treating paint as pure light that combines into colors and images piece by piece
well
we do get a little bit of that with the Mauled Colors and Palette Vibrante mechanics
kind of mechanically representing the idea of treating paint and painting as something that's assembled by the viewer's eye
Was fauvism irl focused on animals?
no, that symbol is taken from the meaning of the word
Oh okay
holy shit Rufo is actually genuinely harder than any other boss in the game for me
"les fauves", the wild beasts
Fauvism was focused on painterly qualities and bold color rather than trying to create lifelike images
wild brushwork, strong colors, and expanding on the Impressionist depiction of light
Oh the tableau status is 21, not 30. Silly me.
So I have 5 loss per turn currently on my team. 5 turns to use closing time
With meursault, 6 loss. 4 turns
It conveyed strong emotion
Oh
The backrooms have monsters. Of course
Did matthias obliterate a classroom of kids? Bruh
||no he obliterated their teacher in front of them and also I think a few kids||
matthias is a petty idiot who cant respect people, yes
||nah he only ripped the one kids arm off||
||he did merk the teacher though yah||
I can't go to watch the cutscene for now
My show started, and will play the next episode of an anime I'm following
||Callisto made a snowman with 3 severed heads though||
Butterfly dream stuff?
He ||definitely killed a bunch||
Oh right yah
The sinners, lmao
Sinner 13 perhaps?
yeah that's what I mean
I'm saying holy fuck she's actually more difficult than either of those fights for me
Granted, this isn't the first time someone's done that
idk why but I just fucking can't
What team you using?
The Sinking is incredibly rough, yeah
And the Bleed is really hard to shake off harmlessly
They do sinking?
A shame we can't Ideality sinner announcers during Walp
o yea i wonder what the next walp set is like
I tried burn, I tried sinking, I tried ring + bloodfiend combo bleed
The latter let me winrate
Honestly yeah
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like I've gone through all my core teams except for Heishou
on burn, yes, on sinking, yes, on ring/bloodfiend, yes due to Rep. Emitter
or-
wait no sinking I don't
Oh damn, guess we weren't the only ones to have trouble with her
We thought it was because we were using a tremor team against a boss that seemed to hard counter them
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yeah something like that
and also ||and inversion of sorts of the opening line to the metamorphosis||
Ma'am Docent gestures to this notion in her pitch to Ryo
I recommend ring/fiend and having Meursault and Ring Faust tank
Slot an Outis with MB the EGO in the back
And keep Rodion alive for as long as possible for the sake of Sanguine Desire
lowk I might just suck at bleed teams because I never got enough potency to benefit from Sanguine Desire anyways lol
Not just to build a stack, but to cling to it when ma'am inevitably staggers and/or renders your sinners clashless
It's fine she has WAY too many coins
Your goal is to simply get to her mask phase, then race her to death
I can't DPS race her she takes zero damage whatsoever
Oh you gotta kill her students, she gains 2 fragile and drops to 0 sp if you do
She has a skill that refills the 4 slots however they're debuffed for every student you've killed so far
I know!!! but I can't because if I clash everything only one skills to to each
I know, it's just like... actually killing the students is the hard part
Kira isn't helping?
AoE helps a lot
Also this scenario would be a good time to corrode into Contempt Awe
she mainly targets the Docent to do maybe 40 damage with an S3
I just killed half of em with Myrcella
Madam doesn't have that
she doesn't do much of that either
I mean
She was kicking a ton of ass in my fight
Kira is ultimately for the final stretch if anything
Hmmm
Lmao
The classic
Superbia a Fluid Sac for an early advantage
If you got Ring Lu just let him deal with tanking Rufo and focus students down
Since he has assist defense
...he... he dies if I do that
he's blunt fatal
he genuinely gets his shit kicked in if I let that happen
yes
Well she has protection at least
The tanks I used for that fight were CAR, Cassault, and Ring Fau
already did that today to get through my first fight
Then I brought Fell Sang for the AoE
KIRA STOP USING COUNTERS PLEASEEEE
It's so damn cruel btw that Rufo only looses 2 SP per clash lost
it's why I tried sinking
it works, but like
sort of
maybe I should try uhhh
classic sinking
The affinities map but also not really
Oh so that's why Callisto's art became mediocre
Yem
Which phase of the fight are you struggling with?
all of it tbh
Callisto kept trying to meld people's techniques together
Ah
I just struggle until everyone dies or I barely win
I think poise and charge would be better in this fight than the other statuses, it's hard to stack anything onto the boss when most of your attacks are just gonna hit the ads
poise has the most blunt weak IDs for me out of any status
Charge I do not really have the ideal team for
oh yeah she does blunt
Everyone does lmao
Callisto ultimately just wanted human connection through art
I will
because I like to
and team cohesion seems like it'll still help
watching Tibia Melodica do 82 damage feels like getting shot in the nuts
Yea she has information about the index that only few people can have
Either she has had run ins with the index to such a degree she knows gods are behind them or she has had run ins with the gods to such a degree she knows they are behind the index
Which because shes Odysseus we know its gotta be the latter
Clashing EGOs helped me the most tbh
i need the fauvist theme
Like this sounds rich coming from someone who brought the N Duo and Ring Fau
But hear me out: her wild phase absolutely tears you apart if you don't win those gloom clashes
Or Evade
It's really cool yeah
Oh that guy is just dead
Kira is a massive help here, yeah
CAUGHT
This isn't even a cohesive team lmao
Back to limbus
||Of course matthias used his precious sword. Can't waste a chance to play with his toy||
Huh, looking at a certain ||sinclair||...
||101 doors? Dimensional smth smth?||
Screams like ||Wayfarer Corp||
Little bit of this little bit of that ass collection of IDs
Oh mb LMAO
"bleed" team
On the plus side I'm actually quite topped off on healing
||He ripped off kids arms, jesus||
Rodion actually compliments this team pretty well
It was one but still
okay this fight is
And also makes her and Meursault's clash values respectable off her S2
I have 999 bloodfeast rn
infinite bleed
it's been doing nothing but losing for me lmao
I clash the mooks with it, see
oop
It is, we'll quarantine better
I won!!! woohoo!
I say that in massive quotation makes but tbf uhm
Well
Only Meursault and Rodion really need the bloodfeast
I take back everything I said about Fluid Sac being overrated
Your survivability will get you far
it is actually just busted
Callisto made a snowman of heads
Of course
||the end boss is pretty cool, way easier than wei though holy shit||
||wei was a huge difficulty spike||
Tbh those two are like... Integral to keeping the rest of this horrendous team alive
Since Rodion just heals off any damage I take spamming counters
And Meursault is Meursault
And can prevent a stagger
maybe allegory will work better than pregor
||wojak pointing||
Also bro, these Fauvists ||are popping up everywhere||
Peggor
Actually I realized Hardblood Armor is also keeping this team chugging along too
This is
Weirdly working
We'll end up fighting a deluge of them, like Sweepers
I wouldnt even be in this channel until you've beaten the intervallo tbh
Yea fair
||it was cool fighting regular ring enemies though||
Unrelated but I hope Outisās canto gives us more old G Corp IDs
I'll hop and finish the rest
Or in general smoke war era IDs
Honestly, wanted to post my comments as I go along while staying way up there, but discord dragged me down here
I also dont think you shoukd be live posting without spoilers Pandora
Ah true, sometimes I forget
I'd like to thank Allegory for being a fucking GOAT and cleaning up all the low health enemies that my other IDs leave on 20 HP
he's doing a great service to us all
allegory?
allen gregor
AH
awls gregor
btw
having 5 ring ids makes callisto lu pop off really hard
bloodfiends found dead in an alleyway
(corporist duo, fauvist duo, ringsang, nshu, awls gregor)
fair
but for general use
i dont think running only 2 bloodfiends is worth (i could be wrong)
also the extra status effects that nshu and awls gregor to help fuel the ring units
My team was Ringdya, Ringlu, Faustina, KK Ish and Heath, and BF Don and Meur
||I like hong lu's speech to gregor
Also, so it's specifically I and K corps that forbid smoke war veterans?||
And I just kinda walked the boss
Ugh, avoiding reading is hard
I'll just try to remember all the important bits when I'm done and come back here
also like. if youre doing 5 ring units (ring outis doesnt count lmao) if you still wanna do bloodfiends your options are manager don (ovbiously) and then for the seventh slot priest gregor or barber outis 
now if we somehow get another bloodfiend that isnt hong lu, faust or yi sang then MAYBE
but it would really have to work well with manager don
then MAYBE i see a hybrid team working the best
Chat, is gluttony the worst overall sin?
It feels like outside of rupture specifically
No team gives a shit about it
Heishou
Well yah thatās the rupture team I was talking about
I guess thatās fair
Show me the gloom team lmao
there are also res benefits from gluttony in Heishou
I guess my real question is like, is gluttony the least versatile sin?
Non
As in the least teams care about it
so there's like, Lust Res, Glut Res, Pride Res, Envy Res
Sloth and Gloom do not have teams built around them
Well gloom fuels a lot of good EGOs for various teams
fluid sac fluid sac fluid sac fluid sac-
Yeah but thats not a team comp
Its so rare to give a shit about gloom they need an early MD item that just gives you gloom resources
Outside of sinking, cavernous wailing Hong Lu needs gloom, great trichilicosm Yi Sang needs it, everlasting needs it
Blind obsession and binds too
Yes but that isnt what you were asking
Every sin fuels multiple game changing egos but thats not a team comp
Thats a single id
Meanwhile, envy res
Pride res
Thatās fair yah
MatthiOutis and Ricardocliff this season... trust...
it'll have been an Envy Res season all along
Sloth has Tremor and Gloom has Sinking
Also ||I still cannot get over Kira calling Callisto robo unc||
Oh the topic was res
N.S.
||all of Kiraās dialogue in this intervallo is great||
I actually wonder if I will end up running a Middle/Ring team
i think that's been toned down in limbus in general
which kinda sucks
but i could see people getting mad about it so maybe it's for the best
The curse of going from indie to semi mainstream
||Prescript: attack the [not] middle member with an obviously slotted counter||
I'm about to have a lot of fun this fight
Wait they're pride resist, fuck
Y'know what?
Firing anyway.
Also while we are on the topic
Please say I am not the only person to notice that Rufos chest is astronomically big
||big baddie wolf boss|| was on 200 or so hp when i lost with my aoe bleed team
Ill try again later
Yes
Shes
Shes got some noticeable fauvs
What exactly are we showing, Rufo? (intervallo boss)
It is yah
I dare say the biggest weve seen so far, after some thinking
lmao
Holy shit
||Kira almost died on me||
Thank you Ringtis
That count came in clutch
Perhaps I could've sent in some people to die rather than have everyone in the front but this was my team
As part of my hypothesis of gacha banners having characters designed to make the fights they show up in easier
I think the fauvist duo with its sinking and bleed and lust skills can help you defeat the big baddie wolf
Hypothesis? Isn't this explicit with the B.E.I.D.?
Big Elephant is Dead...
and the answer to this would be ||4yoshu's specific form.of art, which seems to be focused on the utilizationnof absence and negative space.||
This sounds familiar
intervallo 2
||it can prob be used to describe a few artistic movements||
This boss is manageable but ||seeing her constantly launch big moves that eat a chunk of health is annoying||
I'll just Continue to finish the intervallo fast then do the boss properly later
Same
Thats what i did
It reminds me of the E.Q.A. rematch
Which, as much as my jaw dropped when a good chunk of my initial deployment was wiped
||i think they just left out the sinners translating for them||
...wait was that E.Q.A. or A.B.M.
Anyway I like that we're being made to dig into our backups more
Kira cuts off Faust's reply at one point
Here
Although
She could just be quick on the uptake
The context for that was the whale sculptures
It feels weird to have that as an oversight though
...I have to wonder
If the ||Arayashiki essentially phases things into a different realm||
One where even memory fails to take hold
Is ||Sora and Ren with Araya||?
I get that her hoodie is essentially an armored helmet but I wish she didn't have to put it back on every fight
A more concerning question: ||does the beeper reach||?
Considering we just ||fought against the will of the prescript|| I have a feeling that we'll be ||regretting any sort of reunion we get in the future||
This maps awfully well in answering ||what the Index would gain by sending a powerful, loyal operative to what was seemingly her death||
that and he did cut out part of his brain
we don't know what part but it must have affected him somehow
It stands to reason that if one can ||communicate to realspace from the outside (Araya's EGO hitting & leaving a mark on Sinclair) that the opposite can also happen, but I really really hope, if they're even there together, that Araya and Ren can set Sora straight||
||Playing JnJ with sora, ren, mayors and cathy||
neat callisto analysis
basically saying that he doesn't do anything wrong as a parent in that he's not abusive or performative
he does care, but the lessons he teaches are wrong
was scared to play heishou against intervallo boss because blunt fatal
but like
damn these mfs work at it good
WAIT YEAH IF ||ARAYA|| IS STILL THERE THEN
OH MY GOD
Am woefully aware!
i think ren's sword got slashed up as well
...do they need to eat there?
Im now reminded
That the intravello revealed that albina harvests organs and gets canned experiences in ncorp
Prosthetics daughter goes on regular trips to cyberableist state
this might be my favourite intervallo meme
I know it was just a name but damn ROFLMAO
I like how Rien telling callisto that this is a bad idea is like
Basically one of two times he shows personal initiative
He actually shows a ton
I've been thinking about the Nursefathers all dang day
First was almost intercepting his family's offing, then this, then his refusal to larp Roland as his last words makes 3
The entire boss fight against him is him showing initative
Yeah
And also him telling ren āhey, the prescripts donāt demand this, you donāt have to do it.ā