Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[dusty sigil]

She’s teaching him 6 7

[stoic fjord]

I feel like we are coming to the end of lighthearted intervallos

because this one feels like it's gonna be heavy

[fickle crown]

It definitely will be

It's more of an epilogue tbh

[stoic fjord]

true

[fickle crown]

I do think we'll still have lighthearted intervallos

It's just that we'll be getting a number of serious moments even in those

[stoic fjord]

fair

[fickle crown]

Because the Canto 4 intervallo literally had Ishmael crashing out between the silly ass antics of everyone else

And then there's also murder on the warp express which (despite the grim tone) still had moments of humor

I'm not saying it's gonna be all doom and gloom from here on out, but I think that there are just good and bad moments for that

[faint pivot]

Hell

's Chicken

[stoic fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhiag7HViBk

[faint pivot]

Had a brilliant balance of funny and serious

[fickle crown]

I do think we'll still get sinner antics and possibly more revealing Meursault moments, but a lot of this Intervallo will be more Ryoshu centric imo

Because knowing Meursault, he's going to drop some ominous shit at some point in this Intervallo

[faint pivot]

I do have to wonder how the intervallos will go after Meur's canto

Considering we're only getting part 1 and part 2 of this one

[stoic fjord]

true

[fickle crown]

Also it's funny knowing Meursault surprised everyone by stating he used to smoke

Or the time he said he went to clubs all the time back in the day

Or when he told everyone he systematically stalked Vespa

For shits and giggles

I still think it's hilarious how he went out of his way to dig into Vespa's schedule just to force an encounter

Personally, I feel like Meursault has the most off-canto lore bits of the bunch

[split beacon]

Meursault used to be a party animal

[stoic fjord]

Meursault with Ryoshu as runner up I think

[split beacon]

Remember when we had a damn limited crossover

And Meursault casually went “you guys want a CRAZY lore revelation?”

[fickle crown]

Pfff

Also he actually had an unprompted EGO moment in Canto 6 too

[split beacon]

My guy couldve outright gone “ah yeah been there before” when Heathcliff distorted

[fickle crown]

Which personally adds more to him defying orders sometimes

Like it's actually a little crazy that he acted off of his own judgement in Canto 6

[stoic fjord]

it specifically being in Canto 6 too...

I wonder what happened with Marie?

[fickle crown]

I actually wonder if Marie is gonna be an antagonist in Meursault's canto

[fickle crown]

Y'know, given the menacing shit N-Corp has been up to as well

You think it might've been related to the Mirror in some way?

Like Kromer already got a peek and absolutely snapped (or just got a little kookier than she already was)

I wonder if Meursault had a glimpse as well

Maybe him seeing so many possibilities made him give up any notion of free will, who knows

This is so far off track but uh

Yeah

I do feel like the Mirror could play into some of the absurdist elements of his literary version but idk

[vagrant dove]

To be fair, Dante never asked /j

But yeah still so crazy that a major meursault lore revelation was in the fucking arknights collab lmao

[dusty sigil]

https://youtu.be/1eSAC6D9T5I?si=6IkPa5CcJXuGZCjk

Strongest Sottocapo of the Thumb vs the weakest backstreets cannibal

[stoic fjord]

Was there ever a point in time in which RB Gregor and Ryoshu were any good at all

[dusty sigil]

No lol

They were bad by season 1 standards

[lean fjord]

Gregor has always been trash

RB Ryoshu was actually pretty good at the time

[dusty sigil]

Oh

[lean fjord]

But now she's also bad of course

[dusty sigil]

Also I checked the wiki for it

I never noticed that the R.B, TingTang gang, Los Mariachis and Hook Office IDs all have the backstreets tag

A tag they just kinda stopped using after hook office Hong Lu

Despite us getting more IDs from the backstreets

[gentle mulch]

1300 lunacy

[dusty sigil]

TRUE

[gentle mulch]

i wish they committed to tags actually mattering more in that case

[dusty sigil]

@ KJH NOW

[gentle mulch]

like using 5 units of one-three status for md is getting

kinda tiring

need gifts that make matching the tags kinda worthwhile

[dusty sigil]

Yah

Man, we could get so many backstreet IDs if they retroactively added them

Like, every syndicate ID could get it

Even ignoring the big ones, Dead Rabbits and Yurodivy IDs both could have it

[main scaffold]

ah i see she's doing very well :)

nelly feels very out of place with every other butler taking linton's side or being bound to the manor

ah the basement is like the one from ||leviathan||

[cloud wadi]

Nelly is Catherine's maid

and also basically was a mother to heathcliff

[main scaffold]

yea she mentioned it but it's still interesting

[cloud wadi]

yeah

she's bound to a person and not a place so her priors are slightly different

[main scaffold]

makes us feel like she'll play an important role later on

[cloud wadi]

ultimately it's still a slave contract basically hak hak ha

butlers are effectively serfs bound to the land

[main scaffold]

clearly she's stopping time to open wikipedia

Then I realized someone's heaven
Could be the source of my torment

■■■ (darriny) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) ah i see she's doing very well :) 📎

ah the ||öufi are the pointilists||

||why do they have a move named "stroke"???? like. that's the thing they don't do||

[lean fjord]

Brushstrokes and all that

[split beacon]

You still make brushstrokes when painting in the pointillist style they’re just staccato, abbreviated strokes that produce dotted marks rather than long and languid lines

[main scaffold]

||... the dead rabbit's boss has base heathcliff's skills.||

[lean fjord]

:)

good luck with that fight btw

[quaint cliff]

Well he did take Heathcliff in and mentor him!

:)

[main scaffold]

i mean, that was ||matthew, not matt||

Relvel, Accredited Glue Sniffer ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Well he did take Heathcliff in and mentor him!

[bronze zephyr]

yippee got the s7 ticket from lvl 80 MD achievements

gonna use it when seasonal ryoshu drops

[stoic fjord]

KJH should host a PMoon themed death game tournament with a reward of 13 billion lunacy

[atomic steeple]

He followed a woman around in the book
Perhaps out of kinship
She sat silently during his trial, gazing at him

[atomic steeple]

Lots of ids lack the mechanical amalgam tag

[gentle mulch]

1300 lunacy

[lean fjord]

Who even has it?
Multicrack and the corporists?

[glad fable]

<S> Faubina: acquired 😌

[main scaffold]

Those are the only ones yeah

Allie | Fox Knight (she/they) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Who even has it?
Multicrack and the corporists?

[lean fjord]

Excellent

[cosmic gorge]

She will not disappoint

Get her out of her shell and she starts throwing hard hitting chainsaw aoes

[lean fjord]

The chainsaw arm is still funny to me

[main scaffold]

Now to wait until Wednesday so we can grind for Meursault and next next Wednesday so we can shard Fauvist Rodion

Because oh god we have almost no good bleed IDs so pure Ring is the only way we can make it work

[lean fjord]

Looking forward to the kit reveal tomorrow

[main scaffold]

Hmm...

[lean fjord]

envy resonance charge?

[main scaffold]

We only have two bleed/charge IDs so mostly just envy res tbh

[atomic steeple]

Eager to play bleed with good count

[tiny cave]

Average paradiso skill text

[main scaffold]

Still worse than UT5 Sloshmael's S3

[bronze zephyr]

LMAO

[faint pivot]

Sloshmael flipping around from worst ID to best ID with UT5 is frying me ngl

I love the random 1 Rupture

[stoic fjord]

Maost still has 100 more DPR

[faint pivot]

Oh right, if Riensang theoretically beat out Maost I wonder how Callu fares

Probably not very well considering his big AoE is a one-timer but still

[main scaffold]

he can what

red_d_terrarian ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Oh right, if Riensang theoretically beat out Maost I wonder how Callu fares

[stoic fjord]

furioso-replica got hands

[main scaffold]

oh right

I assume that's the "theoretical" part given how long it takes to get there

[faint pivot]

Yep

Maost has a lower peak but much higher floor

[cosmic gorge]

you know

among the NF and Apprentice relations
its Ren and Shiomi Yoru who have the most
idk
vague?
relationship

[keen palm]

I think part of it is that Shiomi is defined much more by her relationship with Ryoshu than her Apprentice

I do think it's kinda telling that out of everyone Ren is like

the only one who died for his Nursefather simply because he thought it was the right thing to do.

[cosmic gorge]

how much of ||Araya's situation|| do you think dear old monkey greatsword man knew about

[keen palm]

He knew

[cosmic gorge]

as in,

ah

[keen palm]

He is the only one who calls Ryoshu Ryoshu and not Yoshihide

[cosmic gorge]

so he knew for a fact that ||his master was a child/girl/elderly woman cycling between phases of grief and trauma||

or is that something we only can infer

[keen palm]

I thinnnnnnnk

We can assume Araya did so in front of him

[keen palm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbY7VB8kXA0

Jesus CHRIST

[quaint cliff]

created in response to someone misspelling "Red Hood"

[vagrant dove]

RedHod vs greencliff

Who wins

[cosmic gorge]

I dont know who greencliff is nor do i want to

[tiny cave]

greenclair's bff

[faint pivot]

https://youtu.be/ZRcAWdJ1G7k?si=T-t_zBzpd06lBQOI

B.R.

Nuff said

[quaint cliff]

are you sure

https://youtu.be/Q9SGGUtCyX4?si=XqqSFUR-0bc2pxxJ

[hybrid lynx]

oh so we're just going insane again ok

h corp induced madness

[cosmic gorge]

Not clicking

Some strains of brainrot do nothing for me

[ebon forge]

man idk which faubina i like more

UT1 or UT3 skin...

[atomic steeple]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1sjaue9/a_headcanon_of_how_the_friend_and_support_system/

[signal kindle]

This is just the S1 btw

[tiny cave]

Someone did math on it let me get

https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1sam96a/allow_me_to_play_the_curator_for_our_guestsfrom/

Ring Lu caps at ~1000 or 1600 with max weight

Faubina caps at 662

So Ring Lu under perfect conditions barely beats Maost

[atomic steeple]

Greg heim uptie

But from Class 3 onward… would you not agree that the entities appear rather anomalous? The self should have been entirely lost, leaving behind only the manifestation of sins.

One can't help but ask what manner of sinful life could possibly give rise to monsters such as these… and as mere byproducts, too.

Yi sang: Pay no heed to such words. You have scarcely donned that white coat for long, and already you would make of it a burial shroud… I have no wish to be handed the death report of my junior.
Wow everyone has low self preservation in the LCE

[atomic steeple]

When we face maost in canto 12
Kjh: Should have let be nerf her

[tiny cave]

Zilu & Jia Qiu but they’re not holding back anymore

It’s like Callisto & Albina except Zilu assist defenses with Cloudsplitting Manifestation

[eternal gull]

Riensang v this if he uses his special S3 and the enemy lacks SP or is in the negatives will probably successfully clash this

[atomic steeple]

W corp world
Outis: Don't get yourself killed swinging that undercharged weapon around.
Ryoshu: The artistic merit of my D.D.E.D.R. shines only when my blood drenches its—
Outis: Denied. Take a seat if you're even remotely serious about using that weapon. Leave this one to me.
Ryoshu my beloved

Ryoshu: … I don't enjoy jigsaw puzzles.
Whiny

Huh

Warp faust has a lot to say about dante

Do the ends really justify the means? Is the excruciating pain you bear really worth bringing them back?
You don’t seem to be as inquisitive of your situation as I am. Rather, have you decided to accept it, perhaps?

It’s important to see through to the essence of things. For instance, your clock isn’t really a clock, and WARP trains don’t exactly warp.
Don’t let rumors slip under your notice, Dante. Every canard starts from a crumb of truth.

[bronze zephyr]

Hmm maybe ill finally try building double status bleed/rupture now that bloodfiends and ring are distinct teams

[cosmic gorge]

w faust knows things

[bronze zephyr]

in an all-bloodfiends team who'd be best to slot in the last two slots for rupture? Maost and Lord probably surely?

[atomic steeple]

She is a lot more rebellious and questioning than I expected

[cosmic gorge]

w trains do cut off ||faust from the faustcord so||
that gives her more time to think for herself

[atomic steeple]

Yup

[cosmic gorge]

she has a wrath s3 which is pretty unusual as far as wcorp ids go

[atomic steeple]

W corp faust will be a major character in canto 12

[cosmic gorge]

all the fausts will be, trust 🙏

[atomic steeple]

"Because of limbus combus company abd the faust collective, all of us were doomed to be miserable"

[cosmic gorge]

we fight wannabe final boss nfaust, interface with seven and zwei faust, clash with mao faust for hong lord reasons, etc

[glad fable]

...we really need more hemorrhage IDs

[atomic steeple]

We'll have a big fight with Maost in canto 12 as a "you should have let me nerf her", then she'll get murked by W faust, who does a hand sign and suddenly the whole battlefield is a shimmering refracted land filled with great swords, as she questions out resolve and our obedience to the company and the faust collective.

[cosmic gorge]

mood
i want more
there should be more eventually riiiight

[glad fable]

Hopefully!

And hopefully if we do they have some gloom skills because geez

[glad fable]

I think Faubina should work well as a Maost substitute because of The Self Unbound making her speed 5-8 and her S2 giving her haste once per turn? Not as consistent but 6-9 is still pretty good

(Not counting Somatic Frisson-inspiring Melody because I don't think this team would be able to get it quickly enough to matter)

Hmm. Wonder if not bothering with N Corp Don would be better, it'd be worse for EGO gifts but 🤷‍♀️

[atomic steeple]

Yeah, been considering faubina for the everlasting combo

could be fun

NOt that I have everlasting or allegory

I should get everlasting at least for the sound

the bursts sound very satisfying

[glad fable]

Actually you probably don't even need Rosespanner's gloom generation in MD

[glad fable]

The tremor burst noise is like the second best part of playing tremor

[atomic steeple]

Also the gears look pretty

[atomic steeple]

Nope, unless you are rather unlucky with ego gifts

[glad fable]

Maybe something like this?

(Using base sinners for backup IDs since we haven't figured that out yet)

Aww

[atomic steeple]

One of the nicest fausts

[fickle crown]

L-Corp Remnant and Faubina are maybe the only two particularly personable Fausts out of the bunch

The others are uhhh

Yeah

I guess there's also Maost but we don't talk about the devil here

[glad fable]

We assume Faubina still does the "feeding her friends to her sword" thing?

[fickle crown]

Definitely

Also I do think it's kinda sad that Faubina wears her mask tbh

Because I actually like her Uptie 1 art where she shows her face

[cosmic gorge]

her thorn crown is cute

[fickle crown]

I know

It's disappointing it has to go just like that

[atomic steeple]

Multicrack faust is rude and arrogant, but genuinely cares for her team and is socially clueless

[glad fable]

Faust is socially clueless in general tbh

[atomic steeple]

COnsidering how much she cared for her office, I wonder how multicrack faust took them being massacred by a bloodfiend

And knowing the faust collective made her only get first class for herself

[cosmic gorge]

hope we see more of her

[atomic steeple]

Another faust who rejects the collective, perhaps

"A genius? You're mistaken. I'm only a fool who led my comrades to tehir deaths"

[faint pivot]

It'd be nice if we saw her in canto 12

[dusty sigil]

From @ isuumori

[fickle crown]

Pffff

[atomic steeple]

"Not my boy!"

[cosmic gorge]

Hungover Roland wakes up from another bender with Netzach
"Angela did something happen?"
"Nothing of importance."

[faint pivot]

I'm willing to bet that this is turn 1 after Angela wins 1 clash

https://youtu.be/nIXRmqm7Wdo?si=yw8Iq1PwJ6J-56Xu

We wish thee rests in peace

[gentle mulch]

i love how much key figures haunt the narrative in pjm

even when theyre still like

Alive

Angela's Library
Roland's Rampage
Iori's whateverthefuck
Dias????

[lean fjord]

everything is a Iori plot until proven otherwise

[faint pivot]

And let's not forget

Rabies

Wait no

The

Red Mist

Well okay she isn't exactly Haunting but she looms over anyone hoping to die through hubris

(Aka wrongly assume they themselves are the Strongest)

[atomic steeple]

If I ever became a Color, I'd try to go for green, but there's a chance I'd get another an orange variant, since I could get lust motifs
Love sharing information and experience. I'm a liveblog girlie

[stoic fjord]

I think i would be a gloom kind of girlie

[faint pivot]

Hmmm

I'd like Purple

But

Realistically I'm probably getting uhhh

Indigo was it? Gloom too, I mean

[stoic fjord]

I think Indigo was pride? We don't actually know is the thing

[faint pivot]

Humu, fair

[stoic fjord]

He really could be either

[faint pivot]

It'd be cool to get a fit like B.O.R.

Our regular-ass ocean already scares me I'm never getting near the Great Lake but

That fit? I would Not mind

[stoic fjord]

I don't actually know what I would do as a color is the thing

Oh also something I've been thinking about

In part because of Roland, and also my own project moon OC

...what the fuck is the sin spread of a color fixer who's like... yknow. Black. White. Gray. Etc.

[faint pivot]

Funny you say that

Cause there were supposed to be 2 more sins in Limbus

That were black and white

Unfortunately they didn't make the cut but

[split beacon]

Black is what, emptiness?

I know white was Madness

[faint pivot]

I'm guessing they're generalists

[faint pivot]

I forgor

Sounds about right though

Might be void

[split beacon]

Well, based on the Black Silence primarily being a stealth assassin

[stoic fjord]

I thought it was information?

[split beacon]

No that’s Roland

[stoic fjord]

Ohhhhh

[split beacon]

I would assume the Sin spread for an assassin to include Pride

[atomic steeple]

Angst

[split beacon]

Right, Angst and Madness

We could still see those come back as rule breaker mechanics later

[faint pivot]

True

[atomic steeple]

Roland and argalia

[faint pivot]

ApoBird and W.N. EGO bearing the sole Angst and Madness sins

[split beacon]

Actually

I could legitimately see them gating access to Alephs behind a unique resource that you can’t get through normal means and have to fulfill a condition or go out of your way for

Like, you equip an ALEPH EGO and it gives that Sinner a goal they have to fulfill to generate Madness resources to fuel the ALEPH with

[stoic fjord]

I would imagine that perhaps a matching E.G.O suit ID would allow the generation of one for free, but it would require multiple to actually use the E.G.O so it wouldn't be trivialized

[faint pivot]

Madness huh...

One could even say...lunacy

[split beacon]

Yo, lunashi?

[atomic steeple]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1sj2dz8/the_don_by_hydowa/

Oh my

[cosmic gorge]

Sancho is very handsome

[stoic fjord]

Hearing limbus music in non-limbus videos genuinely makes me feel like a sleeper agent

[main scaffold]

what the fuck.

[keen palm]

Yup!

[main scaffold]

i guess the stage name was accurate?

[keen palm]

Die!

[gentle mulch]

oh

youre here

[main scaffold]

is this a forced loss stage?

[split beacon]

hold that shit lmao

[gentle mulch]

it is a very hard stage to do alone

[split beacon]

here's your L

[gentle mulch]

have fun, i mean it genuinely.

[split beacon]

https://tenor.com/bbOOr.gif

[main scaffold]

oh, it is, thank fuck

Atalanta (darriny) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) is this a forced loss stage?

[last gale]

aa dantehhhhh

[split beacon]

darriny it's time to fill out your apology form

[main scaffold]

(is pk not working?

darriny ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) aa dantehhhhh

[main scaffold]

okay no it was just a one off message

we were never on the fraud train lol

Lunatic Blue ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) darriny it's time to fill out your apology form

damn that's a lot wrath skills

lot of*

[split beacon]

slandering vergilius for doing nothing was very popular in the fandom before this stage released

[gentle mulch]

he hates this situation

he's also the Red Gaze so

wrath abundance

[split beacon]

also yeah Vergilius has a lot of pent up anger

and this situation is the perfect one to both provoke it and also give him an outlet for it

[gentle mulch]

why the fuck is the guy paid to not do anything not doing anything auuuuugghh what a fraud what a fucking bum auuuggghhh whyyyy

[split beacon]

okay to be fair people didn't really understand why Vergilius was being paid to sit around and do nothing

they did not know

[gentle mulch]

and now theyre signing apology forms

[split beacon]

they were lacking critical, need-to-know information

about the red GOAT

[gentle mulch]

about the red GOAT

real "trust in the process"ers will just go "eh probably a reason for that"

[stoic fjord]

as he said, if he stepped in, it would be a tour, not a journey

or something like that

[split beacon]

yeah but if you don't know who Vergilius is or why he's the Red Gaze that's just kind of a thing a guy said once

[main scaffold]

oh right, the ring experiments

Lunatic Blue ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) and this situation is the perfect one to both provoke it and also give him an outlet for it

[stoic fjord]

fair

[gentle mulch]

imagine not reading leviathan [hasnt read the last few machine translated chapters] lmaoooooooo

[split beacon]

Vergilius saying that shit doesn't make an impression unless you know that he could factually solo the entire narrative

[gentle mulch]

could not be meeee [me]

[stoic fjord]

that moment was still aura tho

[gentle mulch]

aura

[stoic fjord]

idk the way bro said it as definite fact

[gentle mulch]

i think it's feasible to say that if you can figure out that he's a relatively good person who's managed to become a Color, there's probably a really good reason why he isn't Good Samaritan-ing all over the place

[main scaffold]

wait this wasn't in the flow? huh

[gentle mulch]

oh yeah it wasnt

like

[main scaffold]

but dante's and the sinners' flow wasn't gonna end here

[gentle mulch]

this is verg getting so mad he just goes ballistic and off the rails

this is him off script

he'd be doing this shit all the time if he could

i cannot understate how much he hates the ring

[split beacon]

if Vergilius wasn't getting paid/having a hostage held over him by Limbus Company, he would just do this shit whenever the opportunity arose

[gentle mulch]

literally

like his payroll is "just sit on your hands"

[split beacon]

they're gonna have to physically drag that mf away from the House of Spiders huh

[gentle mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-doom-doomguy-doom-slayer-gif-1856426728697571896

WHERES ||CALLISTO||

[split beacon]

hey spoilers

[stoic fjord]

wait is that

after

fuck my bad gng

[split beacon]

yeah

[stoic fjord]

deleting

[split beacon]

BRING ME THAT RING MAESTRO

I WANT THAT MAESTRO OBLITERATED

[gentle mulch]

||IShowVergilius when Faust says "hey you have to fight the thumb nursefather instead of the ring one"||

wait you bring up a great point

[gentle mulch]

||the upcoming intervallo: i hope the first portion of it is just hassling with verg about leaving that place instead of running through it||

[atomic steeple]

I like charge in library of ruina, but it can be problematic to have to manage charge expenditure so you save up 10 to use on Rip Space (which gets 9.9 percent chance of success per charge. If it fails you take damage instead of the super move hitting an enemy. Also expending 10 charge gives bonus damage)

[split beacon]

||that or we get back to the bus and Vergilius is like "Ryoshu. Did you kill all them mfs" and when she says yes he's just so proud of his awful daughter||

[split beacon]

Rip Space is kind of a meme compared to the keypages that just passively get strong for having lots of charge charged

like its still good and kills the shit out of things

[gentle mulch]

||Dantehhhh. Let me be very clear with you about this mission. You are to humor Ryoshu for every whim she has about the Ring.||

[split beacon]

Vergilius and his 13 terrible adopted children

[gentle mulch]

like actually

[split beacon]

also Charon, who is his wonderful pookie baboo bear daughter he loves

[gentle mulch]

the april fools episode is just verg pov

[atomic steeple]

I see, so getting greedy and wanting to rip all over the place is not the play

[split beacon]

Ripping space is fun

[gentle mulch]

and thats what matters

[split beacon]

but the R Corp enhancement gang are NUTS

[gentle mulch]

but yeah r corp is crazy googoo busted nuts

[stoic fjord]

I need to see R Corp in Limbus but actually good

[atomic steeple]

Yay

[gentle mulch]

wdym

[stoic fjord]

okay this is uncharitable Rodion seems good

also Hong Lu

[gentle mulch]

rhino meursault is so good

[stoic fjord]

killing you with a large rock

[atomic steeple]

I like the random bonus passives w corp has

[gentle mulch]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[split beacon]

R Corp is good in Limbus wtf

the Reindeer are strong units

[glad fable]

Reminder:

[gentle mulch]

yeah me too rodion

me too

[split beacon]

you just have to not smoothbrain your way into frying your teammates with mindwhip

[stoic fjord]

okay my perspective is painted by Ishmael being the only Reindeer I have

and her doing jack shit in terms of damage even on a good day for me

like I'm not winrating into getting my sinners blown up

[split beacon]

R Hong and R Rodya are strong Charge units

they do da damage

[stoic fjord]

yeah that makes sense

[split beacon]

especially if you just permanently gas them up with AEDD Greg and unleash limitless mindwhip hell

[atomic steeple]

Ryoshu: ||I'll have to pull my sw-||
Vergilius ||bursts in and kills the maestro||

[gentle mulch]

HE SAVED CHAARGEEEE

so

intervallo spoilers

[split beacon]

the status saviour is back

Gregor is here to save yet another status archetype

first burn, then charge

[gentle mulch]

||the reason ryoshu cant unsheathe that thing is because verg is holding his hand on the hilt and jumping into the fight himself||

[atomic steeple]

"Let me solo them"

[gentle mulch]

"please for the love of everything let me solo them i am begging for you to let me solo them JUST ONE BITE"

JUST ONE SPOONFUL

[stoic fjord]

"Please. I didn't even get to kill the Ring last time. Let me have this one. Please Dantehhh..."

[glad fable]

Firefist saved burn?

[split beacon]

I mean at the moment yeah

in a more holistic sense, burn was saved by getting like a bunch of good burn units over the next little while, but in that specific point in time yeah Firefist Gregor was the Burn Saviour

[gentle mulch]

the count monster

[split beacon]

he still is a count monster tbf

[gentle mulch]

he is still a count monster

i am not replacing him unless they give me another gregor screamer with hella burn

[glad fable]

I thought burn didn't care about count?

[gentle mulch]

it's trying to care

keyword trying

[fluid whale]

It has to care a small amount because otherwise it can't build up at all

[gentle mulch]

FF greg's specialty is that he applies burn to multiple enemies with 1 atk weight skills

so like

he makes burn in human encounters like A Thing

and in fights with multiple body parts

if you want to run a hybrid burn team in story

[glad fable]

Ahh, I see

[gentle mulch]

you can slot FFGreg and basically be set on count

like he's Him

[glad fable]

I assume his absurd damage bonuses also help

[gentle mulch]

yuuup

[fluid whale]

Certainly doesn't hurt

Burn count also matters more in single-target now with Scorch and a second Liu force-trigger unit

[gentle mulch]

yeah

we're gonna have an entire scorch archetype now huh

[lean fjord]

it's complicated

Burn mostly has much less issues with it, but you still need some good count infliction too

also becomes more relevant the more accelerants you have, which usually consume some count too

[atomic steeple]

Wonder why we only got reindeers lately
No rabbit, no rhino

[gentle mulch]

saving it for outis canto im sure

yup

[bronze zephyr]

Mm maybe

Rabbit Ryoshu, RHINO GREGOR

An R Corp team will be fun

Though rhino Meur would need team buffs to stay relevant prolly

[atomic steeple]

Also the other r corp packs
We've only seen 4th pack

[bronze zephyr]

True; we know there’s a pack w reindeer rats and uh

[atomic steeple]

Rams

It's 2nd pack

[bronze zephyr]

Right

[atomic steeple]

I'm guessing it's their rapid deployment pack

And 1st pack could be sieges, both doing and defending against
And defend the nest

[bronze zephyr]

Raven IDs would be kickass

[atomic steeple]

Give them the ability to steal charge

[bronze zephyr]

They’re mentioned in ruina

Oohhh

[atomic steeple]

3rd pack might be sabotage and infiltration

[bronze zephyr]

I feel like we may still get Nikolai Myo Maxim Rudolph IDs

Tho I’d prefer 2nd pack ofc

[stoic fjord]

probably as a Walp

[bronze zephyr]

Mhm

Probably Nikolai and Myo

Outis and Ryoshu maybe

Maybe the blue people were x Corp or jianlan..

We could’ve gotten Jianlan IDs…

Are any of the fixers in the bottom right identifiable?

[vagrant dove]

The Jianlan guard are between the thumb and k corp I think, X-Corp are the guys between the fixers and r corp

[worthy haven]

Yee.with pickaxes

[vagrant dove]

I wish we got to see a little more of the battle outside H-Corp

[bronze zephyr]

Oh sorry to specify the blue people in hong Lu callisto’s uptie story oops

[main scaffold]

HAH, we were right

■■■ (darriny) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) nelly feels very out of place with every other butler taking linton's side or being bound to the man…

also i find it interesting that she says she acted out of fear, but her panic effect is hatred

[stoic fjord]

I would say Don for Myo but yeah those seem like the most likely two for characters to get the walp

especially since we only have 1 rabbit vs. 3 reindeer and the rabbits are iconic

[bronze zephyr]

Yeye

Myo is more important than the other three since she appeared in lobcorp

[atomic steeple]

Myoshu

[bronze zephyr]

Myoshu…

[vagrant dove]

Myomael

[atomic steeple]

Myo quixote

[vagrant dove]

Everyone gets a myo id

[atomic steeple]

Myo clone army

Would you rather work for w corp or r corp?

[vagrant dove]

Neither but if I absolutely had to

I do like the W Corp aesthetic a bit more

[lean fjord]

I think they might be Wayfarer guys

[vagrant dove]

So I guess I'm getting the worst janitor job in the City

[lean fjord]

anyone else is pretty unlikely to be stumbling into a Corridor

[vagrant dove]

My job security is ass either way

[atomic steeple]

True

[bronze zephyr]

Wayfarer?

[bronze zephyr]

R Corp probably, one of me would prolly survive
W Corp it’s just me that has to deal

[vagrant dove]

The presumptive successor to W-Corp, they do portals

[bronze zephyr]

Oh interesting ok

[lean fjord]

they are a rising competitor working with Limbus, yeah

[bronze zephyr]

Oooh just looked them up, didn’t notice them in Udjat Outis’s ut story

That makes a lot of sense

[atomic steeple]

They are using corridor tech

[lean fjord]

yeah

[bronze zephyr]

It’s really funny to me that Lobcorp fell, and Warp and R are in decline, but TimeTrack is still going strong

[vagrant dove]

Everyone needs time

[bronze zephyr]

True

[lean fjord]

W Corp was reliant on the energy supplied by L Corp, as was R Corp

T Corp will be fine, everyone uses and can use time

[vagrant dove]

T Corp is a major producer much like L Corp

Except yeah, time instead of energy

W and R Corp provide services

Which rely on a supply of cheap energy to function

[bronze zephyr]

If Ayin hadn’t completed the seed of light lobcorp might’ve kept going

Is there just no energy manufacturing Corp now I forget

[vagrant dove]

LobCorp was pretty much at the centre of a very large corporate alliance

And yeah, no other (major) energy supplier iirc

People are scavenging L Corp facilities

(The Enkephalin Rush mentioned in Canto 1)

[atomic steeple]

Wings are the top of whatever business they do

[bronze zephyr]

Limbus has alliances (temp or longterm) with H Corp, K Corp, P Corp, T Corp, and Wayfarer Corp?

[atomic steeple]

The city still has energy after lob corp fell

[bronze zephyr]

Mhmhm clearly yeah

[atomic steeple]

It just isn't the sheer amount lob corp made

[vagrant dove]

Alliances with H and Wayfarer Corp, business partnerships with K, T and P Corp

Aiui

[bronze zephyr]

Mhm
Big number

[atomic steeple]

Lob corp had a branch in every corner of the city, to supply energy

[bronze zephyr]

Potentially N Corp kind of if Dias has her hands in both of them?

[vagrant dove]

It should be noted that K Corp is also associated heavily with N Corp, our opps

[bronze zephyr]

Right

[atomic steeple]

R corp at least seems like it can survive the energy crisis
W corp is fucked. It has energy issues, and its reputation is falling

[vagrant dove]

Yeah

It's been fucked since Ruina, recent events are pushing it towards irrecoverably fucked

W corp is doomed

[atomic steeple]

R corp might get downsized, but survive

[vagrant dove]

If nothing else, there's probably ||about to be a lot of demand for PMCs in the City||

||if the second smoke war does actually happen||

[atomic steeple]

There's a job search site with a premium mode

[vagrant dove]

I feel like this could also work with like

That rich fucker in TKT

The one who owns the factory

[stoic fjord]

Tinklefuck or whatever

[tired canyon]

Yeah,but you calling him that rich fucker instead of his name already says that Alfonso is a lot more recognizable

This isn't a dig at you I can't remember it either

[vagrant dove]

LMAO

[stoic fjord]

...bumble something?

Oh just Bumble

[tired canyon]

That is

[vagrant dove]

Bumble yeah

[tired canyon]

Fucking hystercal

[vagrant dove]

First guy to be eaten in the revolution trust

[stoic fjord]

Lotta meat on his bones

He'd be my first target too

Even with twice the time that fatass is not outpacing some of these guys

[bronze zephyr]

God

[vagrant dove]

Anyways I'm excited for the intervallo

RING CONTENT !

Bow bell!

[stoic fjord]

It's just occurred to me

The sinnerlings had UT4 skill kits

At UT1

[vagrant dove]

They're too powerful

[stoic fjord]

Someone get these kids some Thread immediately

[vagrant dove]

I hope we get some AF skins at some point (mainly thinking of the bodyswap Midsummer Nights)

Facades sorry

Because the animations were really funny

[bronze zephyr]

I see a lotta ppl talking about the bow bell, is that tjis intervallo?????

[bronze zephyr]

400 thread this intervallo oh boy!!!!!

[stoic fjord]

I'm thinking of the sinnerlings, since... just make them retreat instead of die and everything is fine

[vagrant dove]

Lei heng getting beaten up by small children

[stoic fjord]

baby yi sang furioso

[bronze zephyr]

Oh my god

Baby maost

Baby Hong Lord

[stoic fjord]

"Answew me, Heishow packs..."

wait.

The War?

[bronze zephyr]

???

[stoic fjord]

Middle Ishmael do you mean the fucking ||Second Smoke War|| is happening in this Mirror World?

||Is Valencina Rodion back on the frontlines, trying to regain her war hero status?||

[vagrant dove]

The war

Type shit

[dusty sigil]

Could maybe just be referring to a large scale strife?

[stoic fjord]

True

[signal kindle]

Imma be real

Even at UT4 lv60

Can Liu association Rodion, Rosespanner Gregor and Dawn Office Sinclair actually do the house of spiders thumb fight

I genuinely don’t have anything else on hand

I’ve been coasting by on Riensang until now

[vagrant dove]

I don't know lmao

[fickle crown]

Faust killed herself again

[vagrant dove]

Liu rodion and dawnclair together are... alright? Iirc

[bronze zephyr]

Classic

[vagrant dove]

But rosespanner gregor sucks

@signal kindle if you have shards you can try for firefist

Or lämp gregor

[signal kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[fickle crown]

Also holy shit

By misg1111

[signal kindle]

Been saving up for Ryōshū bad end id

[vagrant dove]

Ah.

[signal kindle]

I can get boxes I got time

This season ain’t ending any time soon

[vagrant dove]

Well you can see how you do first and then judge if you need to replace greg

[signal kindle]

Just gonna wait for MD to reset

[signal kindle]

He’s still lv 34 I was just looking for viability 😭

[vagrant dove]

Oh.

[signal kindle]

I straight up just didn’t think it was viable

[atomic steeple]

I spent it all on ring duo
Gonna start saving up now, as her id is coming

[fickle crown]

Firefist Gregor is a solid ass unit

Incest in him imo

WHA

[signal kindle]

And dawnclair is a support

[fickle crown]

NO

[vagrant dove]

Incest???

[fickle crown]

INVEST

[signal kindle]

WHAT

[fickle crown]

My fucking

Mobile keyboard

[vagrant dove]

I've done worse fuckups with mine dw

Like way fucking worse

[signal kindle]

Man, furioso (replica) him NOW

[fickle crown]

But yeah, Firefist is a really good unit and you should use him

[vagrant dove]

I swear those letters are out to get me

^

Firefist is very solid

[fickle crown]

Like he holds up scarily well and hits downright abominable numbers

[vagrant dove]

Should pair well with liuodya and dawnclair

If you want a burn trio

[signal kindle]

Well not exactly want

[fickle crown]

I've seen him one shot the Level 3 K-Corp Excision Agents with his S3

[signal kindle]

Just sorta have

[fickle crown]

In the Line 1 Bokgak

He is a menace

[vagrant dove]

I had Tingtang HL for a lot of the story so i got blasted in the checkup for a bit

Since his uh

[signal kindle]

I’ll try and shard firefist Greg then

[vagrant dove]

His only good skill is the s3 really

And that does either a lot of damage

Or fucking nothing

[stoic fjord]

....probably?

[signal kindle]

I’m gonna try and get firefist Gregor first

[stoic fjord]

yeah fair

[signal kindle]

I just need to get through the two dickheads

[stoic fjord]

he's got a lot of burn to go around

[signal kindle]

After they’re dead Gregor isn’t a problem for the next fight :)

[signal kindle]

Yeah

[gentle mulch]

when will the thumb hos duo return from the war

please

[vagrant dove]

I need Precognition, I need Disposal

[wild mango]

arent they revealing the ID abilites today?

[ebon forge]

yeah at like 3 am

[bronze zephyr]

In like 12 hrs yea

[signal kindle]

Go my 30 evade

Evade truly is the best defence option

[atomic steeple]

Gonna take so long

So what is good for building charge?

[lean fjord]

how do you mean?

also Ruina or Limbus?

[atomic steeple]

Well I meant limbus, but I certainly should touch up my ruina builds
Anyway, asking what I should get for limbus charge

[bronze zephyr]

My charge team is AEDD Gregor, W Outis, W Heath, Mc Faust, QoH Don, Ring Hong Lu, REAP Ryoshu

Ring Hong used to be Kodya but he’s insane

AEDD Greg and Outis provide charge for allies

[lean fjord]

AEDD Greg is very good

and also has charge support, on top of a great kit

[bronze zephyr]

Iirc there’s a reason to be wary of unique charge when building charge but I don’t recall what

[atomic steeple]

Fixed potency charge slurps up charge support

Even maxed out, count as having the least charge count

[lean fjord]

Ring don't have that issue fortunately

[atomic steeple]

Fixed potency charge is plain weird in how mechanics treat it

[lean fjord]

I also feel like we're not likely to see much Charge without Potency going forward

[bronze zephyr]

Probably yeah which is nice

[atomic steeple]

Shame reap ryoshu is fixed potency

[bronze zephyr]

Yeaah

Mm who could I put instead of reap on my team

I could just wait for a new charge unit

It’s between like W Ryoshu or a Reindeer unit and I don’t particularly like Reindeer fhsbbdbs

[karmic escarp]

Wryo's got a nice evade

[atomic steeple]

Love how charge is becoming about being durable abd mounting strength

[dusty sigil]

From @ novalovesoutis

ok yah this isnt working

There we go

[cosmic gorge]

for deeply stupid reasons i need to ask

which of the sinners would could you see as an australian in a hypothetical mirror world

[faint pivot]

Sinclair

Or Rodya

[atomic steeple]

Do feral knives get used once then are gone? In myo

[ebon forge]

Heathcliff

[atomic steeple]

Which sinner could best play sniper from team fortress 2?
I think heath would do it well, thus heathcliff

[cosmic gorge]

full stop heath is a sniper already

nod nod

thank you for indulging in my really stupid AU ideas

[ebon forge]

Also he’s the kinda guy who’d throw piss jars out of the whole cast

[keen palm]

Heath and Mersault

Are the only two real options

Heathcliff is a British criminal

And Mersault's story is about living in an imperial colony

[cosmic gorge]

mmhmm

settling for heath

[atomic steeple]

"Nelly, I'm not a serial killer, I'm an assassin!"

[lean fjord]

nah you can keep using it, as long as you can pay the cost and have Charge

[signal kindle]

Heathcliff

[stoic fjord]

I have maxed out albina faust

[bronze zephyr]

Yaaaaay

I still need to max Renclair and Kiraish

[stoic fjord]

KJH ragebaiting me by not giving me Bridle after 3 refreshes

[keen palm]

KJH should make a mode where you get the gamba wheel at the start

[faint pivot]

Is that not the plan for the secondary idle content mode

[dusty sigil]

Chat, it must be so fucking hard to fight someone with Rien’s weapon

Imagine fighting someone and their weapon changes to a completely different weapon every swing

[gentle mulch]

well

theyre swinging at me

if im good enough at parrying ill just parry it

if im not ill just die

[keen palm]

You parry the greatsword and suddenly it's a whip and it wraps around your neck and the guy swinging it is just like "oh that was lucky"

[stoic fjord]

The whip is actually fucked up in combination with the others

[faint pivot]

You prime a dodge for the whip and then it morphs into the self-propelling lance impaling you as you dodge

[stoic fjord]

1 in something chance for you to genuinely just get something unlike every other weapon in his kit

[faint pivot]

You run cause it's the scythe and then it morphs into the spoon

Lucky you but guess what you wasted energy

You tackle him cause of course he ain't decking you with a spoon and then you're promptly proven wrong

[stoic fjord]

It's occurred to me that we have yet to fight any opponent with firearms

[keen palm]

The Thumbbbb guys kinda technically

[split beacon]

well, Lei Heng sorta

also yeah the Thumb goons have a "just shoot a gun at them" attack

[stoic fjord]

Actual guns

Not the fancy pile bunkers

[stoic fjord]

Wait fr?

[keen palm]

Yeah

oh also

Gubo

[split beacon]

okay so interesting question

is the Magic Bullet EGO a firearm

[keen palm]

Yes

As is Fellbullet

[split beacon]

like

I know it is in terms of function

but does it, like, actually combust gunpowder in there

[keen palm]

We don't know!

It seems to have recoil

but also we don't know if the Head taxes it

[stoic fjord]

I completely forgot Gubo

[keen palm]

I think by the logic of the world, it only counts as a gun if the Head taxes it

[stoic fjord]

Why didn't he just shoot Dante? Is he stupid?

[keen palm]

Flow

[stoic fjord]

This is why I'm really curious as to the state of bows

[stoic fjord]

Doesn't that moreso keep us out of fights we can't win or at least escape rather than directly affecting the actions of others, or am I understanding the flow wrong?

[split beacon]

we know that bows are expensive

The Flow prevents them from geeking Dante first

it's guaranteed that we cannot get defrauded

we can lose, we can get into a no-win fight like with Ricardo, but we cannot have the game instantly end with Dante's head blown off

[stoic fjord]

I guess part of it is just "the story cannot have this happen so it won't"

[keen palm]

Yup!

[stoic fjord]

It didn't occur to me until literally right now so suspension of disbelief is doing its job perfectly fine

[keen palm]

And also Dante is a literal, and I do mean actual literal plot device

their head is a device full of plot

[split beacon]

yes, it's just that Project Moon is intensely into making rules of the narrative part of the story that exist in-universe

[keen palm]

the more boughs we shove in there the more plot device it becomes

[stoic fjord]

I'm genuinely convinced KJH would explode if something was non-diagetic

[keen palm]

Speed but if you write something non-diagetic the bomb strapped to your office chair detonates

[stoic fjord]

The Kira announcer is an incredible reaction image

[main scaffold]

Honestly yes

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Why didn't he just shoot Dante? Is he stupid?

[cosmic gorge]

i might be doing the aweryo combo badly

bc when they do do the friendly fire combo the aoe is small (targets only 1, 2 enemies)

not enough torn memory maybe?

[stoic fjord]

Imagining Kromer and the Inquisition beefing with Cane Office and genuinely getting slimed the fuck out by Nemo, Bada, and Martina

[split beacon]

That means you didn’t hit a crit against Ryoshu

[stoic fjord]

"SHUT UP, LOSER, 🅕🅐🅒🅔 🅛🅐🅢🅔🅡"

[cosmic gorge]

damn it Fellsang

ok maybe doing turn 2 wombo combo is not ideal

ALSO

this fucking secret cursed gif

gift

randomly chooses one character to Stagger per round

god damn it

this better be a good evolved gift istg

[stoic fjord]

It's pretty good!

[cosmic gorge]

ayto
subjecting my sinners to Hohenheim Angst for six combats

[faint pivot]

Turn 3 is much better

At least you'll have a minimum of 13 Poise if you don't use the EGO or his skill 2

[main scaffold]

Turn 2!?

Thyme, Dawnline Shoreman [🔔] ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) ok maybe doing turn 2 wombo combo is not ideal

[cosmic gorge]

im a lil trigger happy

afraid all that contempt will go away 😔 😔

[split beacon]

It doesn’t

Gaze doesn’t decay

[cosmic gorge]

but the guys who are on the board who have it will be gone
or do you mean the Gaze on ryo

in which case

i may be dum

holy shit Potentialities is good

[main scaffold]

So you got 7 lust resonance with Contempt, Awe then immediately used I Shall Fire/Anytime? That's pretty sick

[cosmic gorge]

i love a-res too much for my own good
especially at higher floors where Entangled Threads means i can win the first round's clashes with it

[split beacon]

Gaze does not decay, if you kill an enemy that has it it'll transfer to another enemy

[cosmic gorge]

oho nice

[split beacon]

You got all the time in the world to contemplate when the optimal moment is to rip the AoE

[cosmic gorge]

my bleed team is Oops All Aoes now

maybe even more with beesault but getting a-res with him is a pain

[split beacon]

The only thing that can go wrong is if you kill enemies it’ll concentrate Gaze stacks into one Contempt, and in an absolutely ideal world you want as many enemy units to have a little Gaze as possible as opposed to one guy with Contempt because that determines how your ISF/A will target

[main scaffold]

Wait it does

[quaint cliff]

happy anniversary to the worst webcomic ever

[gentle mulch]

oh god

oh no

oh fuck

oh shit

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

IT CANT BE TODAY IT C--

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

[faint pivot]

It jumps

Oh mb Blue beat me to it

[faint pivot]

I wonder what our first Poise-Tremor units would be like

Cause the Index ushered in Poise-Sinking

[ebon forge]

charge tremor id where its all self-tremor like what the fuck

[faint pivot]

And the Ring are about to introduce Sinking-Bleed

[neat cedar]

i still want charge burn

it seems like a shoe in combo

[stoic fjord]

I imagine they would have to do something with bursting more on crit or smth but who it would actually be I'm unsure

[atomic steeple]

I love lust resonance

[atomic steeple]

Though if you kill a wave then another set of enemies walks in, I think it's lost?

[cosmic gorge]

yooo, Blinking

[atomic steeple]

Move in reg seems to want a charge burn heath

[neat cedar]

solid blinking too

Ring team.is no longer a dream

[atomic steeple]

Meursault is rodya's dog

[signal kindle]

Correct

[atomic steeple]

THis looks real good

thought only the corporists would get "build up to a permanent buff/new state" due to being charge
But seems the masks are permanent

SO the ring is getting build up to permanent power ups

besides the focus on negative status

plus, there's a status that enhances bleed damage

which goes rather well with all the count ring can do

[stoic fjord]

I really fw the critique skill and it healing Meursault's HP and just like. Everything

Really excited for these two

[atomic steeple]

So you can maintain a high stack and let it hit for more than it has in potency

[faint pivot]

We doing All The Damage here folks

Step aside Bloodfiends

[atomic steeple]

PLus! Meursault s3 has a reuse on his coin that inflicts count

Ring are count monsters

[atomic steeple]

Critique is a fun emchani

mechanic

[faint pivot]

Lmao

Meursault's support passive

Inflicts defense level down

Y'know who loves those?

A shade doing this is unreal btw

Just noticed why MBtis looked odd

[stoic fjord]

Unfortunately Meursault has 2 incredible burn IDs for the field

[faint pivot]

Ofc, still funny though

[unique bane]

Nursefather kasane teto

[stoic fjord]

Big fan of angry nemo

[faint pivot]

big fan of nemo

[cosmic gorge]

finally

Between Two Worlds is playing in my MDE fight against evil influencer woman

[gentle mulch]

oh woah

[bronze zephyr]

Just read the kits, mostly understand them

[faint pivot]

https://youtu.be/ASUYeptd4ZM?si=PlEsItZqq_dCCT5y

No particular reason posting this other than it being a banger

[lean fjord]

Fauvists look pretty good

Full Ring Bleed might be real

[gentle mulch]

still unsure about this part

like damn

i kinda dont want palette vibrante

[bronze zephyr]

It’s pretty inevitable unless the requirement for Touché Harde on s2 and 3 is high

[gentle mulch]

or if you get greedy with the two statuses anyways

which is a shame

but i guess theyre learning from maost

[bronze zephyr]

Oh yeah straight up inevitable

If they didn’t halve it it would probably be broken

[gentle mulch]

darn

[lean fjord]

Unless we're gonna get more fauvists eventually it's just kind of a non concern, since you can't avoid it

[stoic fjord]

I feel like we might genuinely get full finger status teams

Thumb tremburn

[gentle mulch]

i would hope so

[bronze zephyr]

Yeah we already have 7 ring IDs

[bronze zephyr]

I forget are there any other factions aside from Heishou (ofc) and Warp with more than 7 sinners?

[lean fjord]

Wait am I forgetting one?
I only remember six

[bronze zephyr]

Outis?

Wait

Oh I can’t do mental math

😭

[lean fjord]

Yi Sang, Outis, Hong Lu, Faust, Rodion, Meirsault

[bronze zephyr]

Cries

Yea okay

[lean fjord]

Three duos so far

[bronze zephyr]

I want one more ring unit and that’s Bloodfiend Elder Maestro Sinclair

[eternal berry]

Limbus Company and LCB technically

[lean fjord]

Wonder who you run on last slot for the Ring team

[worthy haven]

I could see AEDD Greg for the hongler/Faust support

[eternal berry]

Oh yeah Liu’s also got 7 units

[lean fjord]

Possible yeah

[bronze zephyr]

I’ll probably slot KK Duo over ring Outis

[worthy haven]

Oh ye or that

[stoic fjord]

I really like solo faction teams tbh

Just as a gimmick mainly though I feel like Season 6 could've done with a Zigong ID and all that

[bronze zephyr]

Yes.

[stoic fjord]

Xiao Gregor and Rodion Lowell

It has to happen

You have to believe me

[bronze zephyr]

We did notttt need 9 heshou + lord + xish

[stoic fjord]

Manifest with me and we shall be rewarded handsomely come the SotC walps

[stoic fjord]

See I don't mind having a lot

I just think that we could've gotten a unique heishou for each sinner instead

[bronze zephyr]

That would’ve made it better but as they are now I hate them lol

[stoic fjord]

I understand why we didn't, that'd be a lot of work and such and they were under some time crunches

But like

Idk

I fw them as they are now, I don't have overt problems with the heishou

I quite like them

[lean fjord]

I still think the Heishou were good

[stoic fjord]

I just have things that would make me like them more

[bronze zephyr]

I think we could’ve gotten far more interesting IDs than we got

[stoic fjord]

I think they are genuinely really interesting

And their mechanics are neat

They just suffer from being a bit overtuned in some cases

[lean fjord]

Also it was kinda necessary to get a bunch of Heishou with Lord Hong

[stoic fjord]

It's a fun team to use, just one that could've gotten a tiny bit more variety and like

[lean fjord]

I honestly think we still need more

[bronze zephyr]

I hard disagree

[stoic fjord]

I don't think we need more in terms of number

I just think we need more variety

So like. I would actually not mind more

[bronze zephyr]

I do not want more
I want rupture to be a more diverse team than “you use the Heishou”

[stoic fjord]

I also think that one of the main complaints people had about them being kind of homogenous and same-y is genuinely just not a valid criticism though I've been over this a million times so no need to rehash

[lean fjord]

Those are separate things

[bronze zephyr]

Yeah I don’t think any of us are changing our minds on this

[stoic fjord]

I mean... you can. Multiple teams use the deyvat or other units instead because they fill the niche better

[faint pivot]

I mean fair but like, please tell me where the You and Wu fit into Rupture

Cause I genuinely want these in there but can't square the circle

[bronze zephyr]

Mm
I think I am going to not continue with this discussion

[lean fjord]

I guess without trying to lastword too much
My stance is that I think the Heishou got about enough support for an archetype so incredibly reliant on internal synergy
And it still could have been done better

Does that mean it was a bad idea?
Maybe
But that's just kinda how it has to go for something that clearly wants to be Heishou tribal over a keyword synergy team

[faint pivot]

They're saving the proper Heishou team for when we get Hierarch of Hongyuan Sinclair /j

[bronze zephyr]

I think my own tldr is that I want more faction diversity

[bronze zephyr]

Au where we get spring cultivation xishmael

[faint pivot]

...hm
Does ID "nomination" take into account the growth our sinners get post-canto?

[bronze zephyr]

Nomination?

[faint pivot]

Nah we get that in Paradiso, trust

[faint pivot]

Idk what to call it, like, the bestowing of IDs

[bronze zephyr]

Mmm

[faint pivot]

Of certain characters to sinners

Ishmael getting Ahab and Xichun while Yi Sang gets Dongbaek and Rien

Callu's what made me wonder this

Is him having genuine wants of his own after his canto why he got Callisto?

Cause Callisto seems stuck like he is but at least he's trying to work towards something better (another masterpiece), brain damage be damned

[lean fjord]

I think it's sort of a matter of which Sinner fits the most in the IDs context

And we saw with Xishmael that things get a little wibbly the more that is strained

[signal kindle]

https://youtu.be/wOcCu31oi7Q?si=DOlMPBwR6DeHhfbf

I just love the entire comment section

Mersault fans inventing their own canto at this rate 😭

[atomic steeple]

Oh camelia is a mili song
Saw the meursault edits and didn't realize until now

[uneven canopy]

retroactively putting a mili song into a canto

[signal kindle]

The multitude edits the song

[dusty sigil]

So like

Chat

N Corp, for the most part, is very German yah?

[worthy haven]

so far yes

[dusty sigil]

Kromer is based off a German person, as is her dad, Hermann is pretty German, the inquisition has a lot of pretty direct illusions to nazis

So I have a question

Why is Meursault the most French man to ever exist?

[atomic steeple]

Okay so

The mistake is thinking it's 1:1 to nationalities

[dusty sigil]

That is fair yah

[atomic steeple]

The city doesn't do that much

Second

[dusty sigil]

It’s just really funny to me that in the most German district of all time there’s a singular Frenchman

[atomic steeple]

The inquisition is themed after crusaders too

[worthy haven]

tbf Sinclair the German/swiss boy with a story based on pre ww1 german into ww1 germany is from the korean district

[atomic steeple]

Heinrich kramer, the inspiration for the older kromer, was influential in European secular courts

[worthy haven]

wait

no S corp is korea

but k corp also kinda right

[atomic steeple]

While the church at disliked him

[worthy haven]

s corp ancient skorea, k corp sorta modern skorea?

[dusty sigil]

From what Charlie has told me yah

[cosmic gorge]

Kromer is also Odin right

Wotan the essay by Jung

[dusty sigil]

K Corp is a pretty Korean cyberpunk aesthetic

[atomic steeple]

I literally just said to not think every district iscalways 1:1 a nationality

[lime swan]

Agree

[worthy haven]

ye sry i was typing and not looking up

[lime swan]

Allegory is a useful tool for shorthand but let's not rely too hard on it

[atomic steeple]

N corp is very German, but has other European influences (crusaders and Meursault)
Also note that

[worthy haven]

Also this might be taking it a bit far with the ver limited but I wonder if the division between the Nagel group and the Hammer group is also supposed to maybe be a nod to german separation

but prob not tbh

[faint pivot]

My dumb ass thought you were talking about Allen Gregor for a moment

[atomic steeple]

Meursault in the book was from a French colony rather than Europe
Whether the colonial themes will be present in some way I find an interesting question

[faint pivot]

I should really get some sleep, huh

[atomic steeple]

I think the one time we had hard nationality coding was H corp

Plus hongler family being very Chinese

[worthy haven]

ye and S corp also seems to be very hard nationality coded

[atomic steeple]

So I get the ishmael jokes, but I think they made the fandom focus harder on nationalities and "race" than before

Actually, was roland from h corp backstreets? I can't quite remember

[worthy haven]

Y corp may be hard russian coded aswell but we know nothing about besides the very brief glimpse into it in canto 2

[stoic fjord]

Ishmael is entering a very Chinese time in her life

[worthy haven]

could be more broadly nordic

[bronze zephyr]

He lived in I Corp after the smoke war, forget if hes from there though

[worthy haven]

the obvious one would be Y for Yggdrasil corp or something

that said

I am still praying for the day

we get our first mention of O corp

[cosmic gorge]

Give me conquistador NCorp enemies