#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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lean fjord
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Might be a bit less actually

faint pivot
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I wonder if Poinking has enough for Desperado 8?

lean fjord
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Hmm

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You have Udjat, FASshu

faint pivot
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The B.J.B.

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SL Sang has to be Riensang so he's out

lean fjord
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You definitely can if you pad out your backup with ammo

faint pivot
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🤔

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For when I shard Riensang then

lean fjord
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So you need four other ammo IDs in backup

faint pivot
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Let's see

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LCCB Ish

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Hookgor

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...hah, just noticing now how the Index took sinners 1 2 and 3

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Then the Thumbs make 4

lean fjord
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Yeah

faint pivot
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Hrm

lean fjord
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So it's doable

faint pivot
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I would appreciate that abundance of AoE...

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This one first though

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Ammo sinners would be 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, and 13

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9 sinners

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...que

lean fjord
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Desperado is such a fun gift

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Both of the fusions in the new Walp pack are so good

faint pivot
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If one were insane they could run Rumor Desperado

faint pivot
lean fjord
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Desperado is one

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The other is the Alriune flowers, forget the name rn

faint pivot
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Oh, must've misremembered

lean fjord
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It's called Pink Bouquet

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Lots of great stuff

faint pivot
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Oh shit

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Goated website, thank you for sharing

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Hum, new EGO gift called Raincloud also checks backups, seemingly

lean fjord
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There's a few like that now yeah

faint pivot
lean fjord
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There's some in the canto 8 packs

faint pivot
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Jesus the Bongy pack is insane

lean fjord
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Oh yeah

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It's a secret pack though

faint pivot
faint pivot
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Finding it wild how Regret Faust stabs using her hammer as her s2

tiny cave
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When you have a big block of metal on a stick it doesn’t really matter what side of the metal you hit them with

faint pivot
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Why isn't Desperado applying Desperado 😭

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...let me guess, it's because Hookgor isn't at UT3

cosmic gorge
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yes

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probably that

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maybe

faint pivot
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Fack

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His s3 is locked

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So none of his skills consume ammo

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Ok so how do I make Uptie changes apply to IDs mid-runs

cosmic gorge
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its das simple

faint pivot
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Ah I thought those didn't immediately apply, nice

minor gust
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oh shit

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ryohsu

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BABY GIRL

faint pivot
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Sorrowful Exhale now includes backups

neat cedar
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hmmmm

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so it doesn't seem.like bleed rupture from what i can tell

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or tremor

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pure bleed maybe?

minor gust
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i still dont get what the fauvist art movement is

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ist wild brushwork based on wikipedia

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but how does it relate to animals?

neat cedar
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Wild Brushworl
Wild animals

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I can see the concept there

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especially given that they're the only Ring faction we've seen to not work.with Human materials

faint pivot
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GREGOR 😭

neat cedar
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They also seem to be focusing more on taxidermy and needle/threadwork

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to manipulate their prostbetics(?)

faint pivot
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For their secondary functions seemingly, yeah

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Also to bind and trap?

neat cedar
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Fauvism def seems to be a lot more bold than other schools

faint pivot
neat cedar
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Yeah inhighyl doubt sinking

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maybe tho

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maybe they'll do some weirls melding effect?

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i dunno, there is def some sort of chimerism angle to them

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also, shout out to confirmation that kira is infact, alive and maybe well

stoic fjord
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I'll check this out as soon as I can

faint pivot
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If it was Tremor there'd be a burst effect but it's not there either

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Imagine if it was Rupture, lmao

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Two Blupture fiends get new IDs that also happen to be Blupture

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No way right?

stoic fjord
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Question

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I saw someone say Blupture was like

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A bad status combo

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Why is that

faint pivot
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Cause they're both unstable

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Let's take Bleed Charge

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If you focus on Bleed gifts, Charge can support its own weight

neat cedar
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they in theory can workmreally well but also

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both need huge amounts of count

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to not like

faint pivot
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And if you go with Charge gifts first, Bleed is a bit unstable but isn't left in the dust

neat cedar
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burn out

faint pivot
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With Blupture or Sinture, if you focus on one, the other gets left behind

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That stack isn't forming

neat cedar
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i believe it's why bloodfiends just didn't really ever care for keeping a stack

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theynjust need the bleed dmg to happen

faint pivot
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Well

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A bigger stack means more bleed damage

neat cedar
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yeah, but withnhow bloodfeast works

faint pivot
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But yeah the Bloodfiends compensate with Bloodfeast

neat cedar
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you're always getting benefit

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rupture, meanwhile, is even less stable than bleed

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since it's on hit

faint pivot
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No Sanguine Desire to patch it up for a turn

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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soecifcally mao, yeah

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ifnyou run a mao team.well, they can keep a stack with very good results

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Especially mao outis with ebony queen

faint pivot
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There's no world where these Fauvists are Burn

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What, Poise?

neat cedar
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indeed

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i'm curioua if they'll be pure bleed

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but have a funky like

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Kira ish type effect

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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ah, yeah

faint pivot
neat cedar
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Like, i honestly barely consider heishou rupture ids

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they're just a gank squad comp

faint pivot
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By the way

stoic fjord
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Rupture ID the way QoH Don is a rupture ID

faint pivot
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Am I blind

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Or is the "Dead Lake" artwork Rodion talks about not on her person

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I see feathers and fur, no scales

neat cedar
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she jas scales

atomic steeple
neat cedar
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u cab see it in the preview uptienart

minor gust
neat cedar
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the Pointilists do paintings

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Ring Sang and Ring outis for example

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but PM seems to be taking their name very literally for the ring faction

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and honestly, i think it works well

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compared to every other ring faction

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despite having the very well maintained clothes, their actual art pieces are a mishmash of random chimeric features

faint pivot
neat cedar
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also, man

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Rodionnreally does look gorgeous here

cosmic gorge
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Whoaw

neat cedar
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I'm.curiois at how sault "Violated the traditional tennets of Fauvism"

cosmic gorge
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More foreshadowing

neat cedar
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I need to check but i find it funny that the thumb seems ti he thr only finger sault excels at

stoic fjord
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Gregor is the luckiest man in the entire City

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Wait

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Hold on I'm getting a call

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Oh

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Oh no

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Nevermind

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I can't quite say that

neat cedar
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I feel like Gregor would not be a fan of fauvists

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they, however

neat cedar
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would like be big fans of him

stoic fjord
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Rodion wearing a pure white suit and having a ponytail...

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I'm actually kind of reminded of the uhhh

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The convo we had about Hana Rodion as a potentially cool ID

neat cedar
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also

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another rodionnthat has her heart closed off entirely

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i.e. no cleavage for tha tattoo to show

stoic fjord
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Doesn't Dulcinela rodion lack the tattoo entirely or am I tweaking

faint pivot
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She has it

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Clearest ID with it even

neat cedar
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Dulci rodion does tend tondistract people from.that

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it's understandable

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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butnyeah thebreal reasonnis

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it's hidden bynher hair and arms innher idnarts

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but clear as day on her sprite

stoic fjord
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Ahhhh, okay

neat cedar
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i think it is a very deliberate artistic choice by now

faint pivot
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Fawk gang

neat cedar
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that rodion's specific sinner trait gets hidden even whennit should show up

faint pivot
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Do I???

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Ah wait that'd turn off Desperado nvm LMAO

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I could make the cursed choice to switch FAShu with LCCBshu but uh

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That's not enough Sinking either lmao

dusty sigil
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Chat

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In the trailer we see Gregor say “Outis was right”

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She’s totally gonna suggest we keep Gregor dead for the time being yah?

neat cedar
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hard to say, but not unlikely

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if anyone is familiarnwith thebhorror of what greg is

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it would be her

dusty sigil
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I think it’ll mostly be the uncertainty of it all

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Don also could potentially kill everyone but we know how her thing works

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It’s her shoes

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With Gregor, the trigger is unknown and unclear

unique bane
faint pivot
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I guessed right going into this run

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Desperado on a Staggered enemy is really funny

dusty sigil
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You see the sinking effects on hit

faint pivot
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No way 😭

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I guess I'm plain blind then

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Damn though

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They really edging us a whole double status team

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
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Don is just a bloodfiend

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Whereas the first layer, not even fully developed

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Did... ALL THAT

dusty sigil
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Yah

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Sancho is strong

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Easily the strongest sinner

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But she’s not a wing’s decisive weapon

stoic fjord
# stoic fjord Did... ALL THAT

||It is not hard to accidentally kill Vergilius in that fight if you panic and don't know what you're doing. In a world without the Flow, Dante might've panicked and our Guide might be dead.||

dusty sigil
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Like, I think the difference is that Sancho, if unleashed and not stopped, will kill all the sinners and Dante

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And then likely be assigned a star of the city threat

stoic fjord
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But like

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Vergilius alone is enough, more than enough to stop her

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Whereas like.

Yeah.

dusty sigil
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Gregor, if unleashed and not stopped, will kill the sinners, kill Dante, kill Vergilius, and then kill everyone within a 5 Mile radius

stoic fjord
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Genuinely it would take a Corp's major enforcement forces all working together i think

dusty sigil
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Oh yah this is modeling the first hour of what would happen

stoic fjord
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If we released this boy in K Corp

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Siegfried? Cooked.

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Every single employee? Cooked.

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Genuinely K Corp would have to tap into that deep shit

faint pivot
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K Corp would be particularly bad place for this lad to be

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Since ah

dusty sigil
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Yah, whatever wing it’s unleashed in would essentially have to formulate their a chunk of their army from the smoke war again

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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They aren't the only ones who could benefit from the HP bullets

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Yep

stoic fjord
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and if they use them as like

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Dissolving

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No they didn't gng

faint pivot
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Dissolve? Oh yea this one roach died

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Twas sad

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Anyway

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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This guy wasn't deployed!

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Exactly!!

stoic fjord
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...and actively holding himself back the best he can

dusty sigil
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I mean, the other G Corp decisive weapons were they did lose. With this being the first unwrapping he’s probably equal to those

stoic fjord
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....

Okay yeah G Corp fumbled we're bouta become fucking impuritas gng

faint pivot
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I fear the day in like idk Faust's canto and we fight the MD secret bosses outside of MD

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...is ma boi a secret boss I forgor

dusty sigil
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As bad as it is I do think roach emperor Gregor would be more like a STOC threat

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
faint pivot
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Mb

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I fear the day we meet him without our guide

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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I mean I thought we were only talking about the first unwrapping?

lean fjord
stoic fjord
stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Apparently there's Sinking effects visible

lean fjord
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With them also building up and going into a more complete state

faint pivot
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But even then, they use strings for their secondary functions

dusty sigil
faint pivot
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I'd be shocked if "pull string to Lock In" was a Charge thing

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They def have an escalation mechanic yeah

dusty sigil
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Also like, just based off their designs

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Rodion is definitely the one based off an actual character

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And not just “this character but in this faction”

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She’s way more detailed then Meursault is

stoic fjord
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100%

dusty sigil
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Who looks like the generic fauvist goons we see in the trailer

lean fjord
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Meursault is gonna be some of the basic enemies presumably

stoic fjord
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Meursault will get no relevant IDs this season

dusty sigil
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No one’s head is being destroyed you have to understand

atomic steeple
dusty sigil
atomic steeple
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The maestro seems to have antlers

cloud wadi
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This is the happiest Rodion’s been since Liu lmfao

faint pivot
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And she still isn't that happy

atomic steeple
faint pivot
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The notion of a Thumb Capo in heaven sounds silly but honestly compared to the rest of the NF I think Lei Heng deserves to be there

lean fjord
atomic steeple
faint pivot
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Learning the agonizing way that Simor prefers focused encounters over regular ones

bronze zephyr
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just watched the trailer, ring rodya is so hot goddamn

faint pivot
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TIL afterimage shade reflects sin

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Playing Limbus rn and I just noticed that

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@stoic fjord got some advice for surviving turn 1 that doesn't involve EGO?

stoic fjord
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Alternatively, put sacrificial units up front and let your actual team come in after

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Or a combination of the two

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Use evades? Pray?

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MDE is a little fucky wucky

faint pivot
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Humu, noted thank you

gentle mulch
stoic fjord
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Robo Heng heretics vs. The righteous and godly Yuri Heng believers

faint pivot
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So the fused Tremor gift Shadow Monsters has this

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Am I correct to assume that #8 means backup unit 1?

dusty sigil
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Chatroom what do you mean in the Sasha observation logs Gregor says “that’s that, and this is this”

faint pivot
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How in the world

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...ah

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Information gatherer

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Snuck behind enemy lines, duh

atomic steeple
atomic steeple
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Imagine fielding him and rien sang for double furioso

dusty sigil
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Unfortunately I feel like his lack of a lost love kinda hurts his chances of getting it

atomic steeple
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Dead rodya

dusty sigil
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Oh true

faint pivot
dusty sigil
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I feel like Hermann is the type to never actually argue with other parents

faint pivot
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Ain't no way he'd blow up on his own volition though that man has next to nothing inside his head

dusty sigil
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She just reassures Gregor that he’s special and goes on her day

faint pivot
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Alr yeah I bet she's the type of proud that refuses to "waste time" on anything beneath her

dusty sigil
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Yah

lean fjord
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I'm still like 90% sure if it was ever to happen it'd be Heath

faint pivot
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?

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What was to ever happen?

lean fjord
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A Black Silence ID

dusty sigil
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I mean probably yah

lean fjord
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Sorry I probably should have replied for that

dusty sigil
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Roland cliff is one of the IDs we see in game

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When a bunch of alternative Heathcliff’s and Catherine’s are flashing on screen

lean fjord
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Oh right that did happen yeah

dusty sigil
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It’s technically just Heathcliff in a black suit so it could be a generic fixer ID but like

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Nah

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It’s Roland

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PM knew what they were doing there

atomic steeple
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Hm, angela gregor then

wild mango
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oh hey we finally got heishou gregor :)

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but, im curious what's allowing them to mutate?

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sinking bleed? cool

lean fjord
wild mango
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beast prosthetics?

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what i thought were hardblood weapons are like

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strings...

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cool

lean fjord
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If you mean the fauvists

fickle crown
fickle crown
wild mango
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fauvist rodi pulls those red strings out of her bear claw

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these animations rip though

signal kindle
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I think decisive weapon Gregor could only by matched by a non insignificant force (still only like 10 people) from the head or everything R corp has to throw

lean fjord
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It would be very difficult

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Sheer numbers only do so much when they just get eaten alive by the vermin

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You'd need something that can protect similar to Verg's shields

fickle crown
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Given arbiters are a thing (and the head bothers to even deal with the issue) they'll probably stand a chance

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Toss a couple claws and an arbiter his way and I don't think he'll unwrap in time

lean fjord
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The Head could definitely do it

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Because Arbiters and Claws are bullshit

wild mango
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they WEAR thier art

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which is sick as fuck

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(theyre literally furries lmao) (/pos)

lean fjord
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Healing and decay

wild mango
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rodi with the long ponytail looks great

dusty sigil
atomic steeple
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Seems I was right
Fauvists get a beast mode

dusty sigil
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They move in numbers that not even the roach emperor can match

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And can clear the path for an arbiter to claw to kill Gregor

lean fjord
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True, Sweepers could probably do it

signal kindle
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Arbiter, claws, sweepers

stoic fjord
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Idk the roach swarm kinda does 500 damage a turn

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That's more than sweeper max HP so persistence won't save them

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And it's an AoE

signal kindle
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We’ve only ever fought like

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5 at a time

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Imagine a full swarm being directed to liquify one target

stoic fjord
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Fair, I still feel like it'd moreso be the sweepers keep the swarm of vermin busy rather than actually getting through though

signal kindle
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Agreed

stoic fjord
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Or

Hrm

I mean if it's base hatch, I think yeah the sweepers contribute

signal kindle
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It’s basically just counter swarming the vermin while the actual troops of the head do their work

stoic fjord
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Any deeper and i genuinely do not know

stoic fjord
lean fjord
stoic fjord
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Because arbiters individually probably equate to a decisive weapon I can't even lie

signal kindle
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Inb4 canto 12 where we have to fight the unwrapped present kaiser and he just has 9 purple coins

stoic fjord
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Because I think the purple coins are kind of an arayashiki think

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||The erasure||

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They're not a new tier of coin, they're just. What it does.

signal kindle
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as much as I’d agree I don’t know if they’d invent an entirely new mechanic and just not use it again

stoic fjord
lean fjord
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I'm not even sure we're gonna see green coins any time soon

dusty sigil
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I think purple coins are to tied to existence erasure yah

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Because mechanically they’re identical to green coins

dusty sigil
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They’re coins that break all coins including red coins

signal kindle
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Yeye

lean fjord
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As well as on win

dusty sigil
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Ah I didn’t notice

atomic steeple
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Crimson epitaph: causes mental effects skin to missing time

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Joke, but I couldn't resist the king crimson reference

faint pivot
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Udjatis ain't fucking around

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Ma'am went from 700 damage on coin 2 to 6k on the 3rd

atomic steeple
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Me rocking in with lust s2 abd s3
Everyone deserves an education, and I'm doing tutor hours pain

faint pivot
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Ok apparently that wasn't just a Her thing cause Hanafish did the same thing

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But still, damn

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Btw uh

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Can you trade secret boss gifts or smth

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It was fascinating seeing ||Callisto & Albina|| fold in 5 turns but Simor has no Bleed nor RIng 😭

split beacon
gentle mulch
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GET BURSTED

lean fjord
atomic steeple
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https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/project-moon-thread.111168/post-37995726
Good analysis
I think meursault might compensate having only one clawmark by either inflicting debuffs (offense/defense down, damage down, bind) or supporting rodya and the ring team

lean fjord
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unsure if I should do Sinking/Tremor or Bleed/Charge/Rupture for MDE

atomic steeple
# atomic steeple https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/project-moon-thread.111168/post-37...

Rewatching it you're half right it seems. Meursault exclusively inflicts red clawmarks that never 'pop' into the big multicoloured clawmark seen most of the time in Rodya's part of the teaser but she inflicts both red and blue clawmarks, seen most easily in her unenhanced Power Counter where the enemy gains 3 red and 2 blue on attack end. You can also faintly see both red and blue clawmarks underneath the bigger multicoloured clawmark during her s3-2 animation.

So I think Meursault has Clawmark (Bleed) while Rodion has Clawmark (Bleed) and Clawmark (Sinking) and she inflicts Clawmark (Unique Panic) when total Clawmark value = X+

The only thing puzzling me is that since all IDs are hybrids now you'd think Meursault would still be Blinking anyway at which point you wonder why he doesn't get Clawmark (Sinking) too

fickle crown
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I think Meursault might fit in more as a count applier maybe?

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Or he might have poise gain or whatever

lean fjord
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we don't have another bridge for Bleed/Sinkin yet right?

atomic steeple
fickle crown
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I'd probably still use Princesault tho

atomic steeple
fickle crown
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Because I like Princesault

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And also stagger denial

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
stoic fjord
atomic steeple
stoic fjord
atomic steeple
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Green coins can't be added
At least not with the eat unbreakables effect

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It would literally break fights

fickle crown
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I think the Green coins will only be an ally/enemy mechanic

atomic steeple
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Exactly

tiny cave
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new rodion kit reveal is pretty insane

atomic steeple
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It is only for fights designed for it

lean fjord
tiny cave
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season 2 id gaming

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she uses poise count as charge for... reasons

eternal berry
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lawless ID design

lean fjord
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the single coin guard with no effects or affinity

tiny cave
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pre ut4 gaming but yeah release defense skills were complete ass

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single coin guard that can't block an attack

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single coin counter that does less damage than your s1 (at least they have an affinity) in return for you taking a limbillion damage

lean fjord
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Evade was the only defense worth using, and most of them were still ass

tiny cave
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evades broken as always

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i believe the average s1-s2 evade rolls a 16 unconditionally

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whereas most new evades are 14 unconditional, 16 conditional

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oh apparently not its just tingtang having an unconditional 16, conditional 18 evade

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the rest are 14-15

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and then season 2 has molar ish with her absurd 10+4 evade

faint pivot
lean fjord
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no it always did

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early Poise IDs were just built wrong as a joke

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a bunch of them had either too little potency gain, too little count gain, or both

tiny cave
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lcb ryo literally can't maintain a poise stack, same with ut3 kurakumo rodion

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zero poise count anywhere so it just expires at end turn

atomic steeple
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I love having an enemy get evaded and die from bleed

eternal gull
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I just love "oh how we love the flesh and bone" from callistlu its so cute

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I just imagine he sees faustina beating the shit out of someone and is just like "hell yeah you go girl :D"

atomic steeple
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I love his s3-2, both design and name

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Also eager for fauvists, their gallery looks beautiful

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Damn, KJH really asking you to bring base Ryoshu and 3 HoS IDs to the canto 9 packs

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How odd that one of the cheevos is simply "beat A.B.V. with Wild Hunt Heathcliff"

lean fjord
faint pivot
lean fjord
lean fjord
split beacon
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finally got around to sharding and uptying the Ringlers

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and you know

lean fjord
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I'll probably do that today

split beacon
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it sure is funny how Callisto Lu still retains Hong Lu's benevolence and genuine love for others

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this is the closest a Ring Maestro can get to "kindness is needed" probably

faint pivot
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I know but like

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He saw that

stoic fjord
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Kira announcer... excited

faint pivot
faint pivot
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Ala DQ's announcer, who returns to nostalgia whenever we flub

stoic fjord
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Ricardo and Kira announcers for a Middle team...

tiny cave
stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Like

eternal gull
stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Something about her indecisiveness and threats make her sound directionless/lost to me

eternal gull
faint pivot
stoic fjord
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Like. I feel like they would have something interesting b

faint pivot
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Adopt her please Kim

stoic fjord
#

Both having lost what they had and cared for

stoic fjord
eternal gull
#

Kim please adopt Kira and teach her how to do funny moves 🙏

stoic fjord
#

Teach her the boneclaimer kim

eternal gull
#

Yield my cross to claim their dervish (10000 burn damage)

stoic fjord
lean fjord
#

Also she's imprisoned by the people who killed them

stoic fjord
#

That too yeah

split beacon
#

I doubt they'd bring her back just to go "she's going to be miserable forever"

#

kjh doesn't go in for torture porn

stoic fjord
#

100%

#

She's going to at least start emotionally healing

#

And such

stoic fjord
crimson spindle
#

she will either heal or get killed in short order

eternal gull
faint pivot
#

Alright

#

MDE Simor Desperado complete

#

That was pretty fun ngl

lean fjord
#

Nice

faint pivot
#

Only went to 32 adversity (which does fill up your weekly XP bar) but still challenging enough to be engaging

lean fjord
#

I'm trying to decide between that one and Tri status with the Ring rn

faint pivot
#

Imho?

#

The 8 ammo benefit is...wobbles hand

#

It doesn't benefit from stagger and such like I thought earlier

#

But having the 5 threshold benefit on 1 ID that'll rapidly run out of ammo also isn't ideal

#

And with the 8 threshold benefit you'll at least be able to squeeze in some staggers and whatnot

#

So imho, give Simor Desperado a try

lean fjord
#

On the other hand, Ring has a lot of attack weight

faint pivot
#

Oh true both can get there really quickly

#

My opinion's definitely biased by not having played Faubina much & not having Callu lmao

lean fjord
#

I did shard them both, so that's no issue for me at least

#

eh, I might do both eventually
we'll see

#

I do have most of Sinkmor leveled already though, which might also give a slight edge

#

and I'd have to level Rcliff for Bleed/Charge/Rupture 😔

stoic fjord
#

I sharded faubina yesterday

#

But I don't have enough to UT4 yet

faint pivot
#

xy Poinking Desperado
xy in
xy d
xy ex
x B. 1
x J.B. 2
y FAShu 3
y Udjatis 4
Backup

  • Caposault 5
  • Thumbclair 6
  • Hookgor 7
  • LCCB Ishmael 8
  • Sinking Rodion for Raincloud, or Poise for Sorrowful Exhale
lean fjord
#

I have like 5k thread spare rn I think

stoic fjord
#

Gamers. I'm concerned.

#

...I wonder...

||Maybe the reason they're trying to draw Arayashiki is to cut off Gregor's bug arm permanently||

lean fjord
#

with cutting the strings, I feel like it might be something with the Ring

stoic fjord
#

"It's been a fun excursion, Clock."

Been? Ryoshu? Been? What are you doing? Get back here.

dusty sigil
#

I mean, not to be rude but she really doesn’t have much of a reason to be here besides her contract at this point

#

Without the goal of saving Araya, she doesn’t gain anything from limbus

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
#

And while we brought her back at the end of canto 9, we didn’t actually give her anything new to pursue

#

We know Araya still exists and is maybe savable but she doesn’t

crimson spindle
#

i don't think that would fix it

#

the arm is just the obvious manifestation

#

the emperor is within him

dusty sigil
#

That’s true but I could imagine Gregor demanding she cut off his arm anyway

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
#

Since he does see it as the cause of everything that’s wrong with him

eternal berry
#

Gregor's fully modded from head to toe, yeah. His thing's just that he doesn't look like a bug outside of that

stoic fjord
crimson spindle
#

if they have the balls to replace a sinner I will eat my hat

#

but happily

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
#

Oh

#

I really doubt that tbh

stoic fjord
#

||Araya either becoming the new inhabitant of Ryoshu's body or some other process||

dusty sigil
#

||we know Araya is the sheath now||

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
#

||also Araya replacing Ryoshu would mess up how Araya wants to journey with her mom||

#

||until we bring her back physically, her being the sheath means she finally gets to actually spend her childhood with her mother||

#

||rather then alone in a safe||

stoic fjord
#

Especially with the Ira Chain, I feel like even if she wants to leave, it could never be nearly that easy

quaint cliff
stoic fjord
#

The community will NOT be normal about this

quaint cliff
#

😈

stoic fjord
#

I can already hear misg working

gentle mulch
#

IT'S GOING TO SOUND LIKE THE MUSICIANS OF BREMEN IN THERE

lean fjord
#

honestly not as much leveling needed as I thought

#

(ignore Pequod, she's only here to be a bleed backup)

stoic fjord
#

I like to think that perhaps someday we will have a 000 ammo ID for every sinner

lean fjord
#

eventually I'm sure

#

so is White Gossypium actually good even if you're in bleed?

split beacon
#

sort of.

#

White Gossypium helps you win clashes later in MDE but early it just kinda sucks for no benefit

keen palm
#

I mean like, it sucks but it doesn't

split beacon
#

eventually the balance becomes so rocket tag heavy that getting a free turn by staggering your enemies is worth a lot less than consistently winning clashes and not letting them have turns anyways

#

but early, staggering enemies is worth way more than getting the level downs

keen palm
#

Because most likely in early MD you're winning clashes anyway so the stagger doesn't actually result in opprotunity cost

#

you aren't going to lose off it but a combat might take like

#

a turn or two longer

split beacon
#

I mean the real nuisance is that if you haven't got the good Bleed gifts yet you can concievably have bleed stacks fall off, which means you can get nothing from Gossy and also lose staggers

keen palm
#

If early we mean like, floor 1-2 then yes

split beacon
#

Would you rather have level downs but no staggers, or staggers, unlimited staggers, but no staggers

main scaffoldBOT
#

She looks like a wet puppy now 😢

split beacon
#

Punished Kira is clearly not a happy camper

atomic steeple
#
rxddit.com

Move in Reg (UT1), All base egos, Solemn Lament (UT3), Unbrilliant Glory (UT4), Lantern (UT1), Indicant's Trial (UT1), Rime Shank (UT4), Pursuance (UT3), 4th match flame (UT3) DO NOT WORK
Asym Inertia (UT1), Hex Nail (UT1), Ya Suntaya Tad Rumpam (UT1), Garden of Thorns (UT1), Pursuance (UT1) all change the background to the smoke war
legerd...

#

Woah

#

Must be a weird bug

#

But maybe they originally intended but scrapped this

#

Or bugs just tend to involve smoke war images

main scaffoldBOT
cloud wadi
#

Well rodion uses whales in her art

#

Unless whales are humans…

#

Hmm

#

Well fauvism means wild beast

main scaffoldBOT
#

I mean that Meursault used humans

cloud wadi
#

But Meursault is working with dogs

#

Aka not really a wild beast

#

And furthermore his title of the work is “man’s best dog”

#

Which is very far from being a wild beast!

#

A tamed beast trained for specific purpose

main scaffoldBOT
#

we got to bamboo hatted kim and beat him by making meaursault break his knees over and over

lean fjord
#

huh I never realized W Don can also brick her skills in MD

#

you need to keep 1 S2 to have a skill that gains charge

ebon forge
lean fjord
#

damn, AEDD Greg is a lot better than I expected

gentle mulch
#

AEDD Gregor is way better than I expected

#

Especially the survivability

lean fjord
#

his AoE is kinda insane

worthy haven
#

Also his synergy with the ring IDs even tho that wasn't really predictable prior obvi

neat cedar
#

man really bring charge together as a whole

gentle mulch
#

He saved charge

neat cedar
#

side note: did not realize that rodya used parts from Whales in her work

lean fjord
#

it's very good

#

if a boss has multiple parts, they get absolutely torn apart by Greg and the Ring

#

also finally a team that can use the MOTW gifts really well 😌

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

Directly, probably

stoic fjord
#

did she hit up Santiago?? did she kill a whale herself??? do whales just wash up on the beach sometimes???

neat cedar
#

like, Whales do get hunted

#

that's how U corp gets their oil

stoic fjord
#

ohhhh right yeah

#

but also like

neat cedar
#

Still dangerous as hell, of course

stoic fjord
#

I imagine it's not exactly many people besides, y'know

an entire corp

#

and a color fixer dedicated to killing the things

neat cedar
#

I mean it's not an entirr corp

#

Ish was doing it with ahab and crew

stoic fjord
#

wait was Ahab sponsored by U Corp, then?

neat cedar
#

They were sponsored by thr fixer org

stoic fjord
#

hrm

neat cedar
#

Likely Eight i think

stoic fjord
#

fair

#

I still feel like whales in Ring art is batshit insane

neat cedar
#

Oh it definitely is

#

but not every whale is, like

#

Calamity level

#

amd fusing the flesh of a parastic organism to your body

#

very questionable

#

but it does make a statement

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

mhmmm

stoic fjord
#

god the whales are genuinely fucking horrifying

dusty sigil
gentle mulch
#

Who is also inexplicably there because street tier was mentioned

stoic fjord
#

ok so I know nothing about MHA

#

how long would Deku last in the City

ebon forge
# dusty sigil

Why do I have a feeling that Hohenheim would pick it up instantly and powerscale accurately

gentle mulch
stoic fjord
#

...are people with quirks not human?

dusty sigil
gentle mulch
#

no deku would just get wiped by looking a Thumb wrong and die

dusty sigil
gentle mulch
uneven canopy
#

highly enforced streets

stoic fjord
#

alternatively he says something to a middle member

ebon forge
#

He’d be like, “Yeah so most Alephs are whole of backstreets level, but rare cases like Mountain of Smiling Bodies scale to wing level”

stoic fjord
#

and genuinely just gets his shit turned to dust

dusty sigil
#

Look, I don’t wanna be that guy, but unironically Deku is like crazy strong compared to 99% of the city lol

ebon forge
#

Ok deadass I feel like maxed out Deku is like, SotC but gets nuked instantly cuz some Middle Big Brother gets angered by him and he gets put into the Lolang Book of Vengance

#

Definitely would make for a color fixer imo

dusty sigil
#

Unfortunately the second they see he’s labeled as a SOTC they avoid ever fighting him

stoic fjord
#

Roland Incident

ebon forge
#

He’s crazy strong but sadly, “Savage Tigerslayer's Perfected Flurry of Blades [超絕猛虎殺擊亂斬]”

stoic fjord
#

them mfs don't give a shit about learning a lesson

#

unless it's someone else learning the lesson of "DON'T FUCK WITH THE MIDDLE"

dusty sigil
#

I mean in limbus they’ve never actually fought anything stronger then urban nightmare

#

Ricardo ran when the indigo elder showed up

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
#

I’m realizing he’s the only middle member we’ve seen

#

Matthias doesn’t count anymore

stoic fjord
#

I feel like at some point a Great Brother steps in and thrashes your shit

dusty sigil
#

He got stripped of his rank

stoic fjord
#

yuh

ebon forge
#

Ok deadass Class 1A and 2B I think they’re called?

#

Like majority of them are like, SotC, plus minus a few

#

Mei becomes a S class atelier by herself

#

Motherfucker managed to make 7 whole quirks into power armor and she did that offscreen

atomic steeple
#

I feel like either a wing or finger try to kidnap him for science
His best bet is to join an association or go to the outskirts, because he can't face the City alone, strong he may be

neat cedar
#

It really depends on when your putting them innthr city

#

because if ur taking early game.deku, his ass is grass

#

not because he's weak

#

but because he's waaaaaay too kind hearted and.lacking experience

dusty sigil
#

It’s so funny to me that Valencina flat out says “parry this asshole!”

lean fjord
#

only downside of this MD comp
I'm never actually gonna see Ring Lu's S3-2

dusty sigil
atomic steeple
#

Sometimes the fandom outside here is good

#

A reddit thread has now become an art argument about the fauvists

#

And whether they have good art or not

lean fjord
neat cedar
#

glad ti hear the debate is still on going

atomic steeple
#

I'm in the trenches defending the potential of fauvism, in spite of the flaws in the gallery we saw

#

The gallery colors somewhat drowns out the works

#

The big thing in front is a chaotic mish mash without appeal

#

But meursault and rodya have good stuff

#

Man's best dog imposes a sense of order and cleanliness to the chaotic and beastly style of fauvism, befitting a domesticated animal famous for being trained

#

Rodya inverts the whales
They assimilate others and mix their tissue into them.
Rodya fused their skins into Dead Lake

#

An unnatural version of the natural

neat cedar
#

God if we get actuap legit art critque convos between the rings once we see all.of them laid out

#

it's so funny

#

we need more pointlists.tho

atomic steeple
neat cedar
#

pfft

#

so the schools.we have yet to.see are

atomic steeple
#

Soon as their maestro died, they went crying to mommy hermann

neat cedar
#

the Supremascists and the Cubists

atomic steeple
#

Funny thing is

#

There's a line between movements

#

Pointilists led to fauvists

#

Who led to cubism

#

Who led to suprematism

neat cedar
#

Remind me, is cubism what picasso did or is that something else?

atomic steeple
#

Picasso yes

neat cedar
#

Considering where thebstory is heading

#

and what picasso's most famous work is

#

thinga could get very interesting with that one

atomic steeple
#

We seem to be going in order

#

So Cubists will be introduced later

neat cedar
#

i also think that

unique bane
atomic steeple
#

And then Suprematists

neat cedar
#

Guernica

#

might be spelling it wrong

#

but i think that is his most well known piece

neat cedar
#

except for Corporism

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
#

Pointilists seems to be amount blood and mind

neat cedar
#

Pointilism.uses the blood.and fluids, and Fauvism.seems to use tendons as the connecting thread

stoic fjord
#

anti-war piece? painted during the bombing of the city of Guernica

neat cedar
#

ye

atomic steeple
#

Pointilism cares a lot about possibilities, and made these gems from peccatula

#

They felt the least interested in the physical

#

Something in callisto manikins was related to cubism, according to ryoshu

neat cedar
#

hmmm

#

maybe eithet

#

forced loco.motion?

stoic fjord
#

I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING ABOUT THE PINKY NURSEFATHER FIGHT THEME

stoic fjord
#

THE FORESHADOWING

#

IT WAS THERE ALL ALONG

atomic steeple
neat cedar
#

Bones or nervous system.impulses

atomic steeple
#

Exactly

lean fjord
#

alright, that's 15/60 clear done

#

probably didn't need to actually do that lmao

atomic steeple
#

Honestly, I leaned bones due to the idea of carving angular forms
But you can shape nerves, maybe even brains

neat cedar
#

mhmm

#

i saw a bit about Esgoo saying the ring is the most boring finger

#

and I think that is true if you've never really studied like

#

art history

#

or seriously looked into art interpretation

atomic steeple
#

Ring has always been one of the most interesting to me

neat cedar
#

i'm no expert on those fields to be clear, but if you look at the Ring as artists

#

you can draw a lot of interesting insights just on how they choose to use their artisti medium

atomic steeple
#

I think only middle and pinky can feel boring

neat cedar
#

they are much more than just "serial killer artists lol"

#

Pinky is a mystery box so i hold judgement on them

#

like we don't have nearly enough insight on them as an org to really say

#

the Middle is interesting to me because they're so

#

fuckin fake

#

and over compensating

#

"wer are the biggest dogs around"while consistentaly being shown getting their asses handed to them

atomic steeple
neat cedar
#

mhmm

#

more peeps need to read dante's notes

#

myself included

atomic steeple
stoic fjord
#

I think it's kind of a similar case to the thumb, I could argue that the thumb genuinely just got fucked by the Index without being able to even make it a costly victory for the Index but it's more a matter of circumstance than "the thumb is inherently weaker than the index"

neat cedar
#

it kinda fuckin jumps out at you, and overwhelms

stoic fjord
#

I fw all the fingers of course, and the ring is becoming especially interesting

neat cedar
#

if Fauvism is about being bold and boundary pushing, than, i think that is a valid response to give

#

even if it kinda seems like an eye sore just standing there

atomic steeple
neat cedar
#

i saw a thread about how sault may be too restrained in his pursuits

#

because all the animals he utilizes

#

are just domesticated dogs and cats

atomic steeple
#

The stuff in the back, being put on blank canvas amid bright colored walls is interesting

neat cedar
#

which stand out to the large predatory animals that Rodya uses

neat cedar
#

the only people wgo are really intimidated by the Middle's bluster

#

tend to be those who they could bully anyway

#

it brings to mind what Moses says ti me

#

the Middle is all about Grandstanding

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

indeed, but other fingers aren't as loud and proud about getting back at their detractors

stoic fjord
#

true

atomic steeple
#

Ring just wanna make art

neat cedar
#

I wouldn't say that. My read on the ring as a finger

#

is that above making Art

#

they want Prestige

stoic fjord
#

do any of the HoS IDs have special dialogue for encounters with their counterpart

neat cedar
#

which is their big folly as a finger

atomic steeple
#

True, they want prestige

#

I was trying to be funny

neat cedar
#

ah, my bad

neat cedar
#

again, lot of peeps chatter about the ring as just the art guys

atomic steeple
neat cedar
#

i also tend to believe thr Nurse fathers are emblematic of the actual flaws of their respective fingers

atomic steeple
#

Ring are pompous academia

neat cedar
#

yeeeeee

atomic steeple
#

My Ring academia, hm

neat cedar
#

Index is Blind Faith devoid of any real.principles or desire of principles, Middle is the strength of community but in a way that will crush you if you step out of line, Thumb is loyalty and hierachy, to an extremists degree

#

The Pinky is the one i'm iffy on

#

but i think they are the finver that promises Freedom but never really give it

#

Shiomi's entire thing is how she once was able to go where she pleased and see the skies, only to be trapped in the House and tied to something she never wanted

#

None of the NFs want to be there(except maybe callisto), but it's with her that the lack of freedom.gets emphasized the most

split beacon
#

The Ring is only a boring Finger if you are truly ignorant of how fractious and brutal academia can be

mystic ermine
#

Question

If I replace every skill of Ryoshu with her S3
which does not spend ammo
does this still activate since she uses her S1 as unopposed attacks?

split beacon
#

Like take the “Satan is not a fucking pogo stick!” thing and apply it to the Ring, the sauce is already there

stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
split beacon
cosmic gorge
#

Also yes

The Ring does that thing i like in fiction where it takes one thing (like art movements) and turns it into something with hype and aura (scary art gangsters)

#

Like uhh

Fairy tales into cool motifs for characters

stoic fjord
#

I NEED the Middle to recover from some of its aura debt PLEASE KJH 😭

split beacon
#

The Ring isn’t just art movements, it’s also academics and research programs

#

They probably have bare knuckle drag out fights with the Dieci Association over history books

neat cedar
#

god

#

learning about modern academia

#

makes me sad

split beacon
#

In what regard

neat cedar
#

learni g about the history of academia makea me sad

#

jusy how mucb ofnit is driven less by pursuit of knowledge

#

and more ego

#

Just

#

so much fuckin ego

#

not all of it mind

split beacon
#

Eh, if I may be somewhat cynical

#

Ego has always been one of the greatest contributors to academics

neat cedar
#

fair

#

but it also leads to some pretty awful behaviors still

split beacon
#

I don’t really care if people publish brilliant papers widely for the purpose of inflating their egos if the papers are excellent

#

The perverse behaviours have always been there too

neat cedar
#

oh I was talking more in that aspect of like

#

"attacking thought which offends their egos" type beat

atomic steeple
#

The guy who played with the devil core, sure of himself

neat cedar
#

"This thing is correct becaus ei say so, i don't care what you bring me and will do what i can to discredit you"

#

but ye that's not a "modern" thing

cosmic gorge
#

A cool prof i had turned out to have been part of a petty squabble that lead to some of his retirement benefits being removed

#

It was messy

split beacon
#

Generally we can only hope that better science wins out in the long run, but yeah, indoctrination sucks

split beacon
#

Nearly screwed my admissions chances up but I found someone willing to take a chance on me

signal kindle
#

Terrifies me that it’s your favourite one

#

wtf how bad were the others

split beacon
#

favorite course

#

prof was trash but the content was good

signal kindle
#

Fair

split beacon
#

someday I'll get to use cutting edge machine learning techniques again

#

anyways re: The Ring at some point they have to show us a Ring tech research workshop instead of the art crowd, it would be so fucking peak

gentle mulch
#

my love/hate relationship with college is that it is a place for learning new things which i like but unfortunately the entire institution around learning new things (in america) is built off of money and competition, which makes every aspect of it Kinda Buns

cosmic gorge
#

My two worse profs have been awful not for specific academia reasons (as in, pettiness and elitism) but for other reasons (one did nothing but yap about her personal life and outsourced the actual teaching to us via "reports", and the other was a bad person i wont elaborate how)

The petty academianess of my other profs was bearable in comparison

gentle mulch
#

mine has ticket-fine-bait parking spots for undergrads to fall into which. okay!

split beacon
#

classic

gentle mulch
#

get that bag i suppose?

split beacon
#

I own a fake parking pass from the defunct radio lab at my school just for this

cosmic gorge
#

Amazing

gentle mulch
#

😔 they run it by plates and an online database now

split beacon
#

damn

gentle mulch
#

yeah they learned, unfortunately

cosmic gorge
gentle mulch
#

it's the ring the human body is gonna be used for murderart at every exhibition

split beacon
#

I mean, they invented the Corridor and the refraction pods as well as some fascinating extensions of mirror tech

#

so like

#

generally yes but not directly so much as an endgoal

#

the ends of Ring tech research seem to be extending their ability to modify and manipulate the human body

#

although Fauvists seem interested in other bodies too so that's sort of blurry, we really only know the insides of two Ring art movements, Corporism and Pointillism and of the two Pointillists are clearly less obsessed with the human body itself

#

the overall directive of the Ring is to reflect the human condition, with the various art movements all taking different directions towards that goal

neat cedar
#

I think the fauvists are a delibeeate rejection of only focusing on the human body

#

though i think they do use an aspect ofnthe body in their work

#

via the Tendons

split beacon
#

I mean we also know that the Fauvists use living human beings as manikins to display their work

neat cedar
#

since both Sault and Rodya are yanking red strongs before they use their strongest moves

#

are they

#

i thiugh Ryoshu said they were cubist, or utilized cubist techniques

split beacon
#

no no the automanikins are hacks made by Callisto using Cubist technique but in the Ring Fauvist ID trailers it's mentioned that they're using living humans to display their work

neat cedar
#

ah, gotcha

atomic steeple
#

We are gonna see puppet chimeras controlled with tendons

#

Big mino centaur

neat cedar
#

bro i'm wondering who tall dark.and fully of horns is

#

a maestro.perhaps?

split beacon
#

actually I wonder if we'll see chimeras

#

Fauvist Meursault espouses that it's a violation of the central tenets of Fauvism to use more than one type of animal for a single piece

neat cedar
#

Younthink Oswald may habe been a Fauvist?

#

oh, isnthat the tennant he violated?

split beacon
#

yes

neat cedar
#

hmmm

#

i guess that explains rodya's lines as well

#

how they thought hwr work was savage and unrefined

split beacon
#

oh hey

#

it's those guys in blue uniforms

stoic fjord
#

huh

so, are these guys who are entering the house of spiders also rejects, then??

why is it only the rejects going? what's happenng?

neat cedar
#

someone.said.might be U corp dudes

split beacon
#

the ones mentioned in Callisto Lu's uptie story

stoic fjord
#

not W Corp

neat cedar
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Because u corp colors are yellow ans light blue

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he did say that yes

neat cedar
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He said specifically that his worl.was a violation

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i don't know if he said mixing specifically was, but i can buynit

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ah i see

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also no wonder Meursault can't make it past Student

neat cedar
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he literally rejects his own artistic vision and goes "subjectivity is not a matter of concern, there's an objective reason this art isn't good"

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what a maroon

stoic fjord
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lock in. break the tenets if you know them in and out. be transgressive.

atomic steeple
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Be trans

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meanwhile Rodion is embodying the most important aspect of Fauvism perfectly, be bestial, shocking, and emotionally moving

atomic steeple
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Can't wait for knot meursault and knot rodya to become available
Feels like I need to constantly build up rodya shards. Rodya just gets so much cool and good stuff

stoic fjord
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Fraudsault: geeked, failing, too rigid in mindset
GOATya: locked in, thriving, feral and provoking

atomic steeple
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Sanguine desire, kodya

stoic fjord
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no I mean the first line

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ohhhh wait the strings

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the strings

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nvm

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I imagine the point of students is to learn the basics of the craft

atomic steeple
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I was joking

cosmic gorge
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I said knot meursault and knot rodya indeed

signal kindle
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Then those interested in becoming maestros would want to try and intentionally subvert the tradition to create their Magnus opus

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So, for finger status’s we have:

Middle:
South,
Bleed

Matthias and Kira,
Bleed, Burn

Index:
South,
Poise, Sinking

Thumb:
East,
Burn, Tremor

La Famiglia Bognatelli,
Burn, Tremor Poise

Pinky:
Dihui Star,
Bleed, Poise, Burn, Poison

Tiangang Star,
Rupture

Tianjiu Star,
Rupture

Tiantui Star,
Burn, Tremor

Ring:
Pointalist,
Bleed, Burn, Tremor, Rupture, Sinking

Fauvists,
Bleed, Sinking

Corporists,
Bleed, Charge

stoic fjord
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2 full runs
no fucking.... no fucking... no fucking secret boss yet... I'm at Floor 13... give me a bossssss

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or

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all of the stars actually

dusty sigil
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Yah that’s a typo

cosmic gorge
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isnt it kinda ironic that aedd greg works well with the ring nf duo bc theyre all charge ids with aoes

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(id love to use aedd greg i have him but i have no thread nor tickets sadcowboy )

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fascia ated it all

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I’m curious if we’ll ever get to see Surrealism translated into the City as a Ring movement.

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I would figure they concern themselves with the Light or maybe the Rivers.

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Abnormalities, Distortions, E.G.O. could all be considered physical manifestations of unconscious thought and desire. I could see a Surrealist Ring faction experimenting with Monoliths the same way the Pointillists experimented with the Mirror.

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Absurdists would go hard

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Also we can and should have R. Mutt the renegade Maestro that the Ring establishment can’t decide whether to execute or promote

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Callisto would call it gauche and an insult to the very Ring, but I think Ryoshu would find it a brilliant abbreviation of the creation process itself

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Though I guess instead of a urinal, the piece would have to be something like a corpse retrieved from someone else’s kill operation, bagged and signed and sent to the Ring’s exhibition as-is

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Also based on everything Garion has said there’s no way she wasn’t at least a little interested in Ring exhibitions

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She probably swung by a few of their museums and/or shows

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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do

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do we have any scenes of like

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being caught in alliances of convenience mechanically?

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like

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3 factions fighting and the LCB has to go through faction A and faction B just happens to be raiding them too

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Sort of, never represented in game though

gentle mulch
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and we fight with faction B units in the game

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yeah

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which is why i specified because i think it's a lot of missed potential

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we're starting to get that type of thing with the LCE

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and verg

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I really would fuck with a fight where we get an ally party of guys who attack non faction members sometimes because their trigger discipline is imperfect

gentle mulch
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but it's same company so

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And you can get an edge by showing up with IDs that have their faction tag

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Like

gentle mulch
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that'd be pretty cool

cosmic gorge
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it would be funny to have fellsang shoot them

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Zwei Association raid where they accidentally attack non-Zwei party members sometimes with Salvo