#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.
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I wonder if Poinking has enough for Desperado 8?
You definitely can if you pad out your backup with ammo
Those two and Full Stops brings you to four
So you need four other ammo IDs in backup
Let's see
LCCB Ish
Hookgor
...hah, just noticing now how the Index took sinners 1 2 and 3
Then the Thumbs make 4
Yeah
Hrm
So it's doable
I would appreciate that abundance of AoE...
This one first though
Ammo sinners would be 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, and 13
9 sinners
...que
If one were insane they could run Rumor Desperado
What are those again?
Oh, must've misremembered
It's called Pink Bouquet
Game planning tool for Limbus Company. Browse Identity, EGO, and EGO Gift databases. Plan Mirror Dungeon runs, build decks, and calculate probabilities for future extractions.
Lots of great stuff
Oh shit
Goated website, thank you for sharing
Hum, new EGO gift called Raincloud also checks backups, seemingly
There's a few like that now yeah
What are the others?
There's some in the canto 8 packs
Jesus the Bongy pack is insane
Meaning it can't be searched? Dang, oh well
Finding it wild how Regret Faust stabs using her hammer as her s2
When you have a big block of metal on a stick it doesn’t really matter what side of the metal you hit them with
Why isn't Desperado applying Desperado 😭
...let me guess, it's because Hookgor isn't at UT3
do you have
yes
probably that
maybe
Fack
His s3 is locked
So none of his skills consume ammo
Ok so how do I make Uptie changes apply to IDs mid-runs
exit, apply change, go back in
its das simple
Ah I thought those didn't immediately apply, nice
[Limbus Company - PV] Chapter 9.5 - 타래 엮기 / 縒り合せ / Twining Threads
2026.04.16 (KST)
oh shit
ryohsu
BABY GIRL
Sorrowful Exhale now includes backups
hmmmm
so it doesn't seem.like bleed rupture from what i can tell
or tremor
pure bleed maybe?
i still dont get what the fauvist art movement is
ist wild brushwork based on wikipedia
but how does it relate to animals?
Wild Brushworl
Wild animals
I can see the concept there
especially given that they're the only Ring faction we've seen to not work.with Human materials
GREGOR 😭
They also seem to be focusing more on taxidermy and needle/threadwork
to manipulate their prostbetics(?)
Fauvism def seems to be a lot more bold than other schools
The blue effects Rodion's claw leaves makes me think Sinking but I see no Sinking effect
Yeah inhighyl doubt sinking
maybe tho
maybe they'll do some weirls melding effect?
i dunno, there is def some sort of chimerism angle to them
also, shout out to confirmation that kira is infact, alive and maybe well
I'll check this out as soon as I can
If it was Tremor there'd be a burst effect but it's not there either
Imagine if it was Rupture, lmao
Two Blupture fiends get new IDs that also happen to be Blupture
No way right?
Cause they're both unstable
Nothing about the units just the status
Ahhh
Let's take Bleed Charge
If you focus on Bleed gifts, Charge can support its own weight
they in theory can workmreally well but also
both need huge amounts of count
to not like
And if you go with Charge gifts first, Bleed is a bit unstable but isn't left in the dust
burn out
With Blupture or Sinture, if you focus on one, the other gets left behind
That stack isn't forming
i believe it's why bloodfiends just didn't really ever care for keeping a stack
theynjust need the bleed dmg to happen
yeah, but withnhow bloodfeast works
But yeah the Bloodfiends compensate with Bloodfeast
you're always getting benefit
rupture, meanwhile, is even less stable than bleed
since it's on hit
No Sanguine Desire to patch it up for a turn
And thus they gave us the heishou
soecifcally mao, yeah
ifnyou run a mao team.well, they can keep a stack with very good results
Especially mao outis with ebony queen
indeed
i'm curioua if they'll be pure bleed
but have a funky like
Kira ish type effect
Oh I kind of meant the Heishou being good even without stable rupture
ah, yeah
Ooooh that'd be good
By the way
Rupture ID the way QoH Don is a rupture ID
Am I blind
Or is the "Dead Lake" artwork Rodion talks about not on her person
I see feathers and fur, no scales
she jas scales
So they use wild brushwork to represent strong emotion, forsaking the refined representation of things
A critic called them wild beasts, abd thus fauvists took the name (fauves is beasts)
i havent made good judgement yet but the bg is all scultpures, many ring artwork is so,,, svcultpures instea dof paintings
the Pointilists do paintings
Ring Sang and Ring outis for example
but PM seems to be taking their name very literally for the ring faction
and honestly, i think it works well
compared to every other ring faction
despite having the very well maintained clothes, their actual art pieces are a mishmash of random chimeric features
Ah it's between the paw and the feathers I see
Whoaw
I'm.curiois at how sault "Violated the traditional tennets of Fauvism"
More foreshadowing
I need to check but i find it funny that the thumb seems ti he thr only finger sault excels at
In love is right... holy shit...
Gregor is the luckiest man in the entire City
Wait
Hold on I'm getting a call
Oh
Oh no
Nevermind
I can't quite say that
Agreed
would like be big fans of him
Rodion wearing a pure white suit and having a ponytail...
I'm actually kind of reminded of the uhhh
The convo we had about Hana Rodion as a potentially cool ID
also
another rodionnthat has her heart closed off entirely
i.e. no cleavage for tha tattoo to show
Doesn't Dulcinela rodion lack the tattoo entirely or am I tweaking
Noted
butnyeah thebreal reasonnis
it's hidden bynher hair and arms innher idnarts
but clear as day on her sprite
Ahhhh, okay
i think it is a very deliberate artistic choice by now
Fawk gang
that rodion's specific sinner trait gets hidden even whennit should show up
Learning this makes me wanna swap out SL Sang for Riensang (who I do not have yet)
Do I???
Ah wait that'd turn off Desperado nvm LMAO
I could make the cursed choice to switch FAShu with LCCBshu but uh
That's not enough Sinking either lmao
Chat
In the trailer we see Gregor say “Outis was right”
She’s totally gonna suggest we keep Gregor dead for the time being yah?
hard to say, but not unlikely
if anyone is familiarnwith thebhorror of what greg is
it would be her
I think it’ll mostly be the uncertainty of it all
Don also could potentially kill everyone but we know how her thing works
It’s her shoes
With Gregor, the trigger is unknown and unclear
Critics compared them to wild beasts because of their use of colour
Also, the fauvists seem to be bleed sinking
You see the sinking effects on hit
No way 😭
I guess I'm plain blind then
Damn though
They really edging us a whole double status team
They've done this genuinely so many times
He's also arguably significantly more dangerous
Don is just a bloodfiend
Whereas the first layer, not even fully developed
Did... ALL THAT
Yah
Sancho is strong
Easily the strongest sinner
But she’s not a wing’s decisive weapon
||It is not hard to accidentally kill Vergilius in that fight if you panic and don't know what you're doing. In a world without the Flow, Dante might've panicked and our Guide might be dead.||
Like, I think the difference is that Sancho, if unleashed and not stopped, will kill all the sinners and Dante
And then likely be assigned a star of the city threat
But like
Vergilius alone is enough, more than enough to stop her
Whereas like.
Yeah.
Gregor, if unleashed and not stopped, will kill the sinners, kill Dante, kill Vergilius, and then kill everyone within a 5 Mile radius
I would argue probably more than that
Genuinely it would take a Corp's major enforcement forces all working together i think
Oh yah this is modeling the first hour of what would happen
If we released this boy in K Corp
Siegfried? Cooked.
Every single employee? Cooked.
Genuinely K Corp would have to tap into that deep shit
Yah, whatever wing it’s unleashed in would essentially have to formulate their a chunk of their army from the smoke war again
DO NOT LET HIM NEAR AN AMPULE
The devouring swarm is coming 😭
Hell they'd have to do more
This guy wasn't deployed!
Tbf this guy is also not actually in full weapon state
Exactly!!
...and actively holding himself back the best he can
I mean, the other G Corp decisive weapons were they did lose. With this being the first unwrapping he’s probably equal to those
....
Okay yeah G Corp fumbled we're bouta become fucking impuritas gng
I fear the day in like idk Faust's canto and we fight the MD secret bosses outside of MD
...is ma boi a secret boss I forgor
As bad as it is I do think roach emperor Gregor would be more like a STOC threat
Nope
Nah
This first unwrapping, sure, but I dunno maybe if we get deeper
We are going to meet god
I mean I thought we were only talking about the first unwrapping?
Interesting, I wonder if the Fauvists will also be Charge Bleed
I'm kinda talking about the theoretical further layers as well but also yeah mainly for the "what if we dropped him in a wing" scenario
Def not Charge
I think they're sinking bleed
Apparently there's Sinking effects visible
Ah okay
With them also building up and going into a more complete state
But even then, they use strings for their secondary functions
They’re sinking bleed so far
I'd be shocked if "pull string to Lock In" was a Charge thing
They def have an escalation mechanic yeah
Also like, just based off their designs
Rodion is definitely the one based off an actual character
And not just “this character but in this faction”
She’s way more detailed then Meursault is
100%
Who looks like the generic fauvist goons we see in the trailer
Meursault is gonna be some of the basic enemies presumably
Meursault will get no relevant IDs this season
No one’s head is being destroyed you have to understand
People are thinking rupture or sinking. SOme enemies were in low morale in the trailer
The maestro seems to have antlers
Oh, saw a wild theory taht araya possesses ryoshu in this intervallo
https://old.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1shichu/that_aint_a_good_thing_my_friends_please_dont_do/ofcu46e/
araya takes over ryoshu to use the sword, and using the sword removes that control so ryoshu returns to her body the excursion is araya helping lcb source i made it the fuck up
This is the happiest Rodion’s been since Liu lmfao
And she still isn't that happy
Lei heng in heaven: I'm as surprised as you are
The notion of a Thumb Capo in heaven sounds silly but honestly compared to the rest of the NF I think Lei Heng deserves to be there
She's happy because she gets to be the center of attention and show up everyone else
Learning the agonizing way that Simor prefers focused encounters over regular ones
https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1shihd8/ring_rodya_and_meursault_new_id_trailer_remarks/
Finally bleed meursault that supplies gloom
just watched the trailer, ring rodya is so hot goddamn
O H
TIL afterimage shade reflects sin
Playing Limbus rn and I just noticed that
@stoic fjord got some advice for surviving turn 1 that doesn't involve EGO?
Route in a way that gets you some items that ensure survival
Alternatively, put sacrificial units up front and let your actual team come in after
Or a combination of the two
Use evades? Pray?
MDE is a little fucky wucky
Humu, noted thank you
oh no
Robo Heng heretics vs. The righteous and godly Yuri Heng believers
So the fused Tremor gift Shadow Monsters has this
Am I correct to assume that #8 means backup unit 1?
Chatroom what do you mean in the Sasha observation logs Gregor says “that’s that, and this is this”
I mean, gregor does have the sheer wrath and sorrow burried beneath his calm and friendly persona
Hm, black silence gregor
Imagine fielding him and rien sang for double furioso
Unfortunately I feel like his lack of a lost love kinda hurts his chances of getting it
Dead rodya
Oh true
I honestly thought Rien was Hermann
I feel like Hermann is the type to never actually argue with other parents
Ain't no way he'd blow up on his own volition though that man has next to nothing inside his head
She just reassures Gregor that he’s special and goes on her day
Alr yeah I bet she's the type of proud that refuses to "waste time" on anything beneath her
Yah
I'm still like 90% sure if it was ever to happen it'd be Heath
A Black Silence ID
I mean probably yah
Sorry I probably should have replied for that
Roland cliff is one of the IDs we see in game
When a bunch of alternative Heathcliff’s and Catherine’s are flashing on screen
Oh right that did happen yeah
It’s technically just Heathcliff in a black suit so it could be a generic fixer ID but like
Nah
It’s Roland
PM knew what they were doing there
Hm, angela gregor then
oh hey we finally got heishou gregor :)
but, im curious what's allowing them to mutate?
sinking bleed? cool
They're not mutating, just assembling their beast prosthesics
beast prosthetics?
what i thought were hardblood weapons are like
strings...
cool
If you mean the fauvists
I think that has more to do with their potential as a new house of spiders
fauvist rodi pulls those red strings out of her bear claw
these animations rip though
I think decisive weapon Gregor could only by matched by a non insignificant force (still only like 10 people) from the head or everything R corp has to throw
It would be very difficult
Sheer numbers only do so much when they just get eaten alive by the vermin
You'd need something that can protect similar to Verg's shields
Given arbiters are a thing (and the head bothers to even deal with the issue) they'll probably stand a chance
Toss a couple claws and an arbiter his way and I don't think he'll unwrap in time
Hmm, that makes me think of an Arbiter specialised in using K Corp singularity
Healing and decay
rodi with the long ponytail looks great
Honestly my first thought would be that the Head sends the sweepers after him
Seems I was right
Fauvists get a beast mode
They move in numbers that not even the roach emperor can match
And can clear the path for an arbiter to claw to kill Gregor
True, Sweepers could probably do it
Arbiter, claws, sweepers
Idk the roach swarm kinda does 500 damage a turn
That's more than sweeper max HP so persistence won't save them
And it's an AoE
We’ve only ever fought like
5 at a time
Imagine a full swarm being directed to liquify one target
Fair, I still feel like it'd moreso be the sweepers keep the swarm of vermin busy rather than actually getting through though
Agreed
Or
Hrm
I mean if it's base hatch, I think yeah the sweepers contribute
It’s basically just counter swarming the vermin while the actual troops of the head do their work
Any deeper and i genuinely do not know
Which, yeah, there it's probably over for the Kaiser
It's in general fun to think about Arbiters wielding each of the singularities
Because arbiters individually probably equate to a decisive weapon I can't even lie
Inb4 canto 12 where we have to fight the unwrapped present kaiser and he just has 9 purple coins
See i doubt that
Because I think the purple coins are kind of an arayashiki think
||The erasure||
They're not a new tier of coin, they're just. What it does.
as much as I’d agree I don’t know if they’d invent an entirely new mechanic and just not use it again
Right, I moreso mean that shit is genuinely gonna be relegated to arbiter or smth
I'm not even sure we're gonna see green coins any time soon
I think purple coins are to tied to existence erasure yah
Because mechanically they’re identical to green coins
Fair
They’re coins that break all coins including red coins
Yeye
Mostly, the purples have a chance to erase on any clash IIRC
As well as on win
Ah I didn’t notice
You know
Ring me probably would be a fauvist
Make an epitaph for my dead pets
Crimson epitaph: causes mental effects skin to missing time
Joke, but I couldn't resist the king crimson reference
Me rocking in with lust s2 abd s3
Everyone deserves an education, and I'm doing tutor hours pain
Ok apparently that wasn't just a Her thing cause Hanafish did the same thing
But still, damn
Btw uh
Can you trade secret boss gifts or smth
It was fascinating seeing ||Callisto & Albina|| fold in 5 turns but Simor has no Bleed nor RIng 😭
a bunch of Tremor Burst skills suddenly gain a huge amount of damage when bursting, especially in MD(E)
GET BURSTED
did you trigger Special Contract perhaps?
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/project-moon-thread.111168/post-37995726
Good analysis
I think meursault might compensate having only one clawmark by either inflicting debuffs (offense/defense down, damage down, bind) or supporting rodya and the ring team
Rewatching it you're half right it seems. Meursault exclusively inflicts red clawmarks that never 'pop' into the big multicoloured clawmark seen most of the time in Rodya's part of the teaser but she inflicts both red and blue clawmarks, seen most easily in her unenhanced Power Counter where the...
unsure if I should do Sinking/Tremor or Bleed/Charge/Rupture for MDE
Rewatching it you're half right it seems. Meursault exclusively inflicts red clawmarks that never 'pop' into the big multicoloured clawmark seen most of the time in Rodya's part of the teaser but she inflicts both red and blue clawmarks, seen most easily in her unenhanced Power Counter where the enemy gains 3 red and 2 blue on attack end. You can also faintly see both red and blue clawmarks underneath the bigger multicoloured clawmark during her s3-2 animation.
So I think Meursault has Clawmark (Bleed) while Rodion has Clawmark (Bleed) and Clawmark (Sinking) and she inflicts Clawmark (Unique Panic) when total Clawmark value = X+
The only thing puzzling me is that since all IDs are hybrids now you'd think Meursault would still be Blinking anyway at which point you wonder why he doesn't get Clawmark (Sinking) too
I think Meursault might fit in more as a count applier maybe?
Or he might have poise gain or whatever
we don't have another bridge for Bleed/Sinkin yet right?
As a student, acting as unglamorous support could fit him
I'd probably still use Princesault tho
Just one more fauvist please kjh
Iirc this is actually not a purple coin property but rather a skill property on ||Muga Ryo|| skills
I'll just use two teams
Axel kh2: two!?
Tremor burst
Honestly, those weren't purple coins. Those were coins that were painted/slashed over
I pray that we don't gng 😭
Green coins can't be added
At least not with the eat unbreakables effect
It would literally break fights
I think the Green coins will only be an ally/enemy mechanic
Exactly
new rodion kit reveal is pretty insane
It is only for fights designed for it
wait I only just noticed Zwei Rodion has Poise count but no potency
that's hilarious
lawless ID design
also still before defense skills were actually real for most IDs
the single coin guard with no effects or affinity
pre ut4 gaming but yeah release defense skills were complete ass
single coin guard that can't block an attack
single coin counter that does less damage than your s1 (at least they have an affinity) in return for you taking a limbillion damage
Evade was the only defense worth using, and most of them were still ass
evades broken as always
i believe the average s1-s2 evade rolls a 16 unconditionally
whereas most new evades are 14 unconditional, 16 conditional
oh apparently not its just tingtang having an unconditional 16, conditional 18 evade
the rest are 14-15
and then season 2 has molar ish with her absurd 10+4 evade
Twas before Poise had Potency iirc
no it always did
early Poise IDs were just built wrong as a joke
a bunch of them had either too little potency gain, too little count gain, or both
lcb ryo literally can't maintain a poise stack, same with ut3 kurakumo rodion
zero poise count anywhere so it just expires at end turn
I love having an enemy get evaded and die from bleed
I just love "oh how we love the flesh and bone" from callistlu its so cute
I just imagine he sees faustina beating the shit out of someone and is just like "hell yeah you go girl :D"
I love his s3-2, both design and name
Also eager for fauvists, their gallery looks beautiful
Waiting for Valencina Rodion to genuinely be more busted
Damn, KJH really asking you to bring base Ryoshu and 3 HoS IDs to the canto 9 packs
How odd that one of the cheevos is simply "beat A.B.V. with Wild Hunt Heathcliff"
They only need to be in loadout at least IIRC
Nay, says it doesn't
If she actually gets the "on clash loss, evade" its gonna be really funny
Oh damn, guess they changed that
I'll probably do that today
it sure is funny how Callisto Lu still retains Hong Lu's benevolence and genuine love for others
this is the closest a Ring Maestro can get to "kindness is needed" probably
Distortion cliff
Kira announcer... excited
She honestly looks a lot better hoodie down but something about her dialogue tells me she isn't doing great
Mgm
*mhm
Ala DQ's announcer, who returns to nostalgia whenever we flub
Ricardo and Kira announcers for a Middle team...
announcer is only her upper body for a reason 😛
FOUL 💀
I want Kira and Kim to be doing better :(
She kinda just sounds depressed from what I saw
Something about her indecisiveness and threats make her sound directionless/lost to me
iron syndicate ahh
"Just" 😭
Praying that Kira and Kim have something
Like. I feel like they would have something interesting b
Adopt her please Kim
Both having lost what they had and cared for
This tbh
Kim please adopt Kira and teach her how to do funny moves 🙏
Teach her the boneclaimer kim
Yield my cross to claim their dervish (10000 burn damage)
Violet Boneclaiming Slam
Well she got betrayed and almost died, and almost everyone close to her is dead
Also she's imprisoned by the people who killed them
That too yeah
I doubt they'd bring her back just to go "she's going to be miserable forever"
kjh doesn't go in for torture porn
The City is a miserable place but that doesn't mean everyone is miserable forever
she will either heal or get killed in short order
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DCRtrPCyW_qZbjy9T1Z-eVzJk9nuCwwB6RrzH7xu9Do/edit?gid=663342309#gid=663342309
@ebon forge might help your tristatusing
the humble 5 mang:
Nice
Only went to 32 adversity (which does fill up your weekly XP bar) but still challenging enough to be engaging
I'm trying to decide between that one and Tri status with the Ring rn
Imho?
The 8 ammo benefit is...wobbles hand
It doesn't benefit from stagger and such like I thought earlier
But having the 5 threshold benefit on 1 ID that'll rapidly run out of ammo also isn't ideal
And with the 8 threshold benefit you'll at least be able to squeeze in some staggers and whatnot
So imho, give Simor Desperado a try
On the other hand, Ring has a lot of attack weight
Oh true both can get there really quickly
My opinion's definitely biased by not having played Faubina much & not having Callu lmao
I did shard them both, so that's no issue for me at least
eh, I might do both eventually
we'll see
I do have most of Sinkmor leveled already though, which might also give a slight edge
and I'd have to level Rcliff for Bleed/Charge/Rupture 😔
xy Poinking Desperado
xy in
xy d
xy ex
x B. 1
x J.B. 2
y FAShu 3
y Udjatis 4
Backup
- Caposault 5
- Thumbclair 6
- Hookgor 7
- LCCB Ishmael 8
- Sinking Rodion for Raincloud, or Poise for Sorrowful Exhale
I have like 5k thread spare rn I think
😨
Gamers. I'm concerned.
...I wonder...
||Maybe the reason they're trying to draw Arayashiki is to cut off Gregor's bug arm permanently||
with cutting the strings, I feel like it might be something with the Ring
"It's been a fun excursion, Clock."
Been? Ryoshu? Been? What are you doing? Get back here.
I mean, not to be rude but she really doesn’t have much of a reason to be here besides her contract at this point
Without the goal of saving Araya, she doesn’t gain anything from limbus
I know, I'm kind of being silly
And while we brought her back at the end of canto 9, we didn’t actually give her anything new to pursue
We know Araya still exists and is maybe savable but she doesn’t
i don't think that would fix it
the arm is just the obvious manifestation
the emperor is within him
That’s true but I could imagine Gregor demanding she cut off his arm anyway
||I saw a theory of Araya replacing Ryoshu? I don't remember any details of the theory so I don't know what any of the basis was but I'm like. I have a sinking feeling in my gut about it with the trailer.||
Since he does see it as the cause of everything that’s wrong with him
Gregor's fully modded from head to toe, yeah. His thing's just that he doesn't look like a bug outside of that
The physical manifestation is enough, I think, he keeps referring to it specifically as everything wrong yeah
Like personality wise?
||No I mean literally replacing her||
||Araya either becoming the new inhabitant of Ryoshu's body or some other process||
||we know Araya is the sheath now||
Same, especially for an intervallo
||also Araya replacing Ryoshu would mess up how Araya wants to journey with her mom||
||until we bring her back physically, her being the sheath means she finally gets to actually spend her childhood with her mother||
||rather then alone in a safe||
Yeah
I really do wonder how things will go
Especially with the Ira Chain, I feel like even if she wants to leave, it could never be nearly that easy
The community will NOT be normal about this
😈
I can already hear misg working
honestly not as much leveling needed as I thought
(ignore Pequod, she's only here to be a bleed backup)
I like to think that perhaps someday we will have a 000 ammo ID for every sinner
sort of.
White Gossypium helps you win clashes later in MDE but early it just kinda sucks for no benefit
I mean like, it sucks but it doesn't
eventually the balance becomes so rocket tag heavy that getting a free turn by staggering your enemies is worth a lot less than consistently winning clashes and not letting them have turns anyways
but early, staggering enemies is worth way more than getting the level downs
Because most likely in early MD you're winning clashes anyway so the stagger doesn't actually result in opprotunity cost
you aren't going to lose off it but a combat might take like
a turn or two longer
I mean the real nuisance is that if you haven't got the good Bleed gifts yet you can concievably have bleed stacks fall off, which means you can get nothing from Gossy and also lose staggers
If early we mean like, floor 1-2 then yes
Would you rather have level downs but no staggers, or staggers, unlimited staggers, but no staggers
She looks like a wet puppy now 😢
Punished Kira is clearly not a happy camper
Move in Reg (UT1), All base egos, Solemn Lament (UT3), Unbrilliant Glory (UT4), Lantern (UT1), Indicant's Trial (UT1), Rime Shank (UT4), Pursuance (UT3), 4th match flame (UT3) DO NOT WORK
Asym Inertia (UT1), Hex Nail (UT1), Ya Suntaya Tad Rumpam (UT1), Garden of Thorns (UT1), Pursuance (UT1) all change the background to the smoke war
legerd...
Woah
Must be a weird bug
But maybe they originally intended but scrapped this
Or bugs just tend to involve smoke war images
She forgot about Araya so she doesn’t care about unsheathing the sword anymore 😭 😭 😭
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LoGTU9tCus 📎
How much you want to bet that the tradition Meursault violated was not using humans in fauvism
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LoGTU9tCus 📎
Well rodion uses whales in her art
Unless whales are humans…
Hmm
Well fauvism means wild beast
I mean that Meursault used humans
But Meursault is working with dogs
Aka not really a wild beast
And furthermore his title of the work is “man’s best dog”
Which is very far from being a wild beast!
A tamed beast trained for specific purpose
we got to bamboo hatted kim and beat him by making meaursault break his knees over and over
huh I never realized W Don can also brick her skills in MD
you need to keep 1 S2 to have a skill that gains charge
The 51kb update was smokewar.png iirc
damn, AEDD Greg is a lot better than I expected
his AoE is kinda insane
Also his synergy with the ring IDs even tho that wasn't really predictable prior obvi
man really bring charge together as a whole
He saved charge
yeah I'm running this team in MDE rn
it's very good
if a boss has multiple parts, they get absolutely torn apart by Greg and the Ring
also finally a team that can use the MOTW gifts really well 😌
I NEED to know how that was sourced
Directly, probably
did she hit up Santiago?? did she kill a whale herself??? do whales just wash up on the beach sometimes???
Still dangerous as hell, of course
I imagine it's not exactly many people besides, y'know
an entire corp
and a color fixer dedicated to killing the things
wait was Ahab sponsored by U Corp, then?
They were sponsored by thr fixer org
hrm
Likely Eight i think
Oh it definitely is
but not every whale is, like
Calamity level
amd fusing the flesh of a parastic organism to your body
very questionable
but it does make a statement
yeah, I imagine the Pallid Whale was a bit fucky wucky?
mhmmm
god the whales are genuinely fucking horrifying
Why do I have a feeling that Hohenheim would pick it up instantly and powerscale accurately
eviscerated upon entry
...are people with quirks not human?
Hohenheim would start analyzing details in the animation to accurately asses relative strength levels yah
no deku would just get wiped by looking a Thumb wrong and die
pixel measurements headass
Do you realize how much of the city is streets?
not enough to keep him alive
okay yeah fair
highly enforced streets
alternatively he says something to a middle member
He’d be like, “Yeah so most Alephs are whole of backstreets level, but rare cases like Mountain of Smiling Bodies scale to wing level”
and genuinely just gets his shit turned to dust
Look, I don’t wanna be that guy, but unironically Deku is like crazy strong compared to 99% of the city lol
Ok deadass I feel like maxed out Deku is like, SotC but gets nuked instantly cuz some Middle Big Brother gets angered by him and he gets put into the Lolang Book of Vengance
Definitely would make for a color fixer imo
Unfortunately the second they see he’s labeled as a SOTC they avoid ever fighting him
no the fuck they wouldn't bro
Roland Incident
He’s crazy strong but sadly, “Savage Tigerslayer's Perfected Flurry of Blades [超絕猛虎殺擊亂斬]”
them mfs don't give a shit about learning a lesson
unless it's someone else learning the lesson of "DON'T FUCK WITH THE MIDDLE"
I mean in limbus they’ve never actually fought anything stronger then urban nightmare
Ricardo ran when the indigo elder showed up
okay true
but also he's level 60 and literally got his entire arm blown off or some shit
I feel like at some point a Great Brother steps in and thrashes your shit
He got stripped of his rank
yuh
Ok deadass Class 1A and 2B I think they’re called?
Like majority of them are like, SotC, plus minus a few
Mei becomes a S class atelier by herself
Motherfucker managed to make 7 whole quirks into power armor and she did that offscreen
I feel like either a wing or finger try to kidnap him for science
His best bet is to join an association or go to the outskirts, because he can't face the City alone, strong he may be
It really depends on when your putting them innthr city
because if ur taking early game.deku, his ass is grass
not because he's weak
but because he's waaaaaay too kind hearted and.lacking experience
It’s so funny to me that Valencina flat out says “parry this asshole!”
only downside of this MD comp
I'm never actually gonna see Ring Lu's S3-2
Sometimes the fandom outside here is good
A reddit thread has now become an art argument about the fauvists
And whether they have good art or not
not getting any secret bosses 😔
lol
glad ti hear the debate is still on going
I'm in the trenches defending the potential of fauvism, in spite of the flaws in the gallery we saw
The gallery colors somewhat drowns out the works
The big thing in front is a chaotic mish mash without appeal
But meursault and rodya have good stuff
Man's best dog imposes a sense of order and cleanliness to the chaotic and beastly style of fauvism, befitting a domesticated animal famous for being trained
Rodya inverts the whales
They assimilate others and mix their tissue into them.
Rodya fused their skins into Dead Lake
An unnatural version of the natural
God if we get actuap legit art critque convos between the rings once we see all.of them laid out
it's so funny
we need more pointlists.tho
Corporate sellouts
Soon as their maestro died, they went crying to mommy hermann
the Supremascists and the Cubists
Funny thing is
There's a line between movements
Pointilists led to fauvists
Who led to cubism
Who led to suprematism
Remind me, is cubism what picasso did or is that something else?
Picasso yes
Considering where thebstory is heading
and what picasso's most famous work is
thinga could get very interesting with that one
i also think that
which one is that again? i think i know what it is but i can't remember its name
And then Suprematists
but yeah, i think that each of the ring schools seem.to.be focusing on utilization of a specific part of the human body of their pieces
except for Corporism
which tries.to use everything
spelled it right
Pointilists seems to be amount blood and mind
Pointilism.uses the blood.and fluids, and Fauvism.seems to use tendons as the connecting thread
anti-war piece? painted during the bombing of the city of Guernica
ye
Pointilism cares a lot about possibilities, and made these gems from peccatula
They felt the least interested in the physical
Something in callisto manikins was related to cubism, according to ryoshu
I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING ABOUT THE PINKY NURSEFATHER FIGHT THEME
||at certain points, especially in the beginning, you can faintly hear a childlike voice in the background, somewhat distorted||
THE FORESHADOWING
IT WAS THERE ALL ALONG
Yeah, I'm guessing they care about motion, and might specialize in bones
And use tremor
Bones or nervous system.impulses
Exactly
Honestly, I leaned bones due to the idea of carving angular forms
But you can shape nerves, maybe even brains
mhmm
i saw a bit about Esgoo saying the ring is the most boring finger
and I think that is true if you've never really studied like
art history
or seriously looked into art interpretation
Ring has always been one of the most interesting to me
i'm no expert on those fields to be clear, but if you look at the Ring as artists
you can draw a lot of interesting insights just on how they choose to use their artisti medium
I think only middle and pinky can feel boring
they are much more than just "serial killer artists lol"
Pinky is a mystery box so i hold judgement on them
like we don't have nearly enough insight on them as an org to really say
the Middle is interesting to me because they're so
fuckin fake
and over compensating
"wer are the biggest dogs around"while consistentaly being shown getting their asses handed to them
This interpretation already starts wrong by missing that they're scientists and engineers too. Dante says this fingers about art and knowledge, but a lot of people miss that
The interesting thing is this big piece almost tricks you, it looks coherent at first but then a closer look shows it as a mishmash. Perhaps it was an intended effect, but even so it would be an art piece that better exists as a correction one makes in their mind rather than the ugly piece itself
tbf we've see like, a fairly new Big Brother, and a washed up Great Brother and both times a color fixer was needed
in the latter case it was more than just the color fixer as well
I think it's kind of a similar case to the thumb, I could argue that the thumb genuinely just got fucked by the Index without being able to even make it a costly victory for the Index but it's more a matter of circumstance than "the thumb is inherently weaker than the index"
I like how they use it in the trailer
it kinda fuckin jumps out at you, and overwhelms
I fw all the fingers of course, and the ring is becoming especially interesting
if Fauvism is about being bold and boundary pushing, than, i think that is a valid response to give
even if it kinda seems like an eye sore just standing there
True, the fauvists are good at eliciting surprise and strong reactions
i saw a thread about how sault may be too restrained in his pursuits
because all the animals he utilizes
are just domesticated dogs and cats
The stuff in the back, being put on blank canvas amid bright colored walls is interesting
which stand out to the large predatory animals that Rodya uses
i'm also talking about ruina, but in any case
the only people wgo are really intimidated by the Middle's bluster
tend to be those who they could bully anyway
it brings to mind what Moses says ti me
the Middle is all about Grandstanding
I feel like that's all of the fingers except for the Index
indeed, but other fingers aren't as loud and proud about getting back at their detractors
true
Ring just wanna make art
I wouldn't say that. My read on the ring as a finger
is that above making Art
they want Prestige
do any of the HoS IDs have special dialogue for encounters with their counterpart
which is their big folly as a finger
ah, my bad
Callisto: my own clone-
again, lot of peeps chatter about the ring as just the art guys
It's fine
i also tend to believe thr Nurse fathers are emblematic of the actual flaws of their respective fingers
Ring are pompous academia
yeeeeee
My Ring academia, hm
Index is Blind Faith devoid of any real.principles or desire of principles, Middle is the strength of community but in a way that will crush you if you step out of line, Thumb is loyalty and hierachy, to an extremists degree
The Pinky is the one i'm iffy on
but i think they are the finver that promises Freedom but never really give it
Shiomi's entire thing is how she once was able to go where she pleased and see the skies, only to be trapped in the House and tied to something she never wanted
None of the NFs want to be there(except maybe callisto), but it's with her that the lack of freedom.gets emphasized the most
The Ring is only a boring Finger if you are truly ignorant of how fractious and brutal academia can be
Question
If I replace every skill of Ryoshu with her S3
which does not spend ammo
does this still activate since she uses her S1 as unopposed attacks?
Like take the “Satan is not a fucking pogo stick!” thing and apply it to the Ring, the sauce is already there
...it does say attack skills, rather than base attack skills, but I'm really not sure
I think I would keep at least 1 S2 on her
Wait what was the context of that
That sounds familiar
thank you
Also yes
The Ring does that thing i like in fiction where it takes one thing (like art movements) and turns it into something with hype and aura (scary art gangsters)
Like uhh
Fairy tales into cool motifs for characters
I NEED the Middle to recover from some of its aura debt PLEASE KJH 😭
The Ring isn’t just art movements, it’s also academics and research programs
They probably have bare knuckle drag out fights with the Dieci Association over history books
In what regard
learni g about the history of academia makea me sad
jusy how mucb ofnit is driven less by pursuit of knowledge
and more ego
Just
so much fuckin ego
not all of it mind
Eh, if I may be somewhat cynical
Ego has always been one of the greatest contributors to academics
I don’t really care if people publish brilliant papers widely for the purpose of inflating their egos if the papers are excellent
The perverse behaviours have always been there too
oh I was talking more in that aspect of like
"attacking thought which offends their egos" type beat
The guy who played with the devil core, sure of himself
"This thing is correct becaus ei say so, i don't care what you bring me and will do what i can to discredit you"
but ye that's not a "modern" thing
A cool prof i had turned out to have been part of a petty squabble that lead to some of his retirement benefits being removed
It was messy
Generally we can only hope that better science wins out in the long run, but yeah, indoctrination sucks
One of my favourite classes during my undergrad was taught by a petty man who freaked out on the lecture stage because of whispering, quit teaching the class with a few weeks left in the course, and refused to write anyone letters of recommendation for grad school
Nearly screwed my admissions chances up but I found someone willing to take a chance on me
Fair
someday I'll get to use cutting edge machine learning techniques again
anyways re: The Ring at some point they have to show us a Ring tech research workshop instead of the art crowd, it would be so fucking peak
my love/hate relationship with college is that it is a place for learning new things which i like but unfortunately the entire institution around learning new things (in america) is built off of money and competition, which makes every aspect of it Kinda Buns
My two worse profs have been awful not for specific academia reasons (as in, pettiness and elitism) but for other reasons (one did nothing but yap about her personal life and outsourced the actual teaching to us via "reports", and the other was a bad person i wont elaborate how)
The petty academianess of my other profs was bearable in comparison
mine has ticket-fine-bait parking spots for undergrads to fall into which. okay!
classic
get that bag i suppose?
I own a fake parking pass from the defunct radio lab at my school just for this
Amazing
😔 they run it by plates and an online database now
damn
yeah they learned, unfortunately
Would Ring tech research still use the human body
it's the ring the human body is gonna be used for murderart at every exhibition
I mean, they invented the Corridor and the refraction pods as well as some fascinating extensions of mirror tech
so like
generally yes but not directly so much as an endgoal
the ends of Ring tech research seem to be extending their ability to modify and manipulate the human body
although Fauvists seem interested in other bodies too so that's sort of blurry, we really only know the insides of two Ring art movements, Corporism and Pointillism and of the two Pointillists are clearly less obsessed with the human body itself
the overall directive of the Ring is to reflect the human condition, with the various art movements all taking different directions towards that goal
I think the fauvists are a delibeeate rejection of only focusing on the human body
though i think they do use an aspect ofnthe body in their work
via the Tendons
I mean we also know that the Fauvists use living human beings as manikins to display their work
since both Sault and Rodya are yanking red strongs before they use their strongest moves
are they
i thiugh Ryoshu said they were cubist, or utilized cubist techniques
no no the automanikins are hacks made by Callisto using Cubist technique but in the Ring Fauvist ID trailers it's mentioned that they're using living humans to display their work
ah, gotcha
actually I wonder if we'll see chimeras
Fauvist Meursault espouses that it's a violation of the central tenets of Fauvism to use more than one type of animal for a single piece
yes
hmmm
i guess that explains rodya's lines as well
how they thought hwr work was savage and unrefined
huh
so, are these guys who are entering the house of spiders also rejects, then??
why is it only the rejects going? what's happenng?
someone.said.might be U corp dudes
the ones mentioned in Callisto Lu's uptie story
not W Corp
Because u corp colors are yellow ans light blue
having your work panned by your Docent doesn't automatically make you a reject
oh right fair
He said that?
he did say that yes
He said specifically that his worl.was a violation
i don't know if he said mixing specifically was, but i can buynit
ah i see
also no wonder Meursault can't make it past Student
if U corp is involved, it might be due to Rodya using whale flesh as part of her work
he literally rejects his own artistic vision and goes "subjectivity is not a matter of concern, there's an objective reason this art isn't good"
what a maroon
lock in. break the tenets if you know them in and out. be transgressive.
Be trans
meanwhile Rodion is embodying the most important aspect of Fauvism perfectly, be bestial, shocking, and emotionally moving
Can't wait for knot meursault and knot rodya to become available
Feels like I need to constantly build up rodya shards. Rodya just gets so much cool and good stuff
Fraudsault: geeked, failing, too rigid in mindset
GOATya: locked in, thriving, feral and provoking
sorry what
Rodya is quite incredible
She gets so much stuff
Sanguine desire, kodya
I'm eager to get the ring ids
nvm
I imagine the point of students is to learn the basics of the craft
I was joking
They turn you into a furry and keep you in a cage or something
Haveng seen the line in the trailer
I said knot meursault and knot rodya indeed
Then those interested in becoming maestros would want to try and intentionally subvert the tradition to create their Magnus opus
Found them good nicknames
So uh
Where can I sign up
So, for finger status’s we have:
Middle:
South,
Bleed
Matthias and Kira,
Bleed, Burn
Index:
South,
Poise, Sinking
Thumb:
East,
Burn, Tremor
La Famiglia Bognatelli,
Burn, Tremor Poise
Pinky:
Dihui Star,
Bleed, Poise, Burn, Poison
Tiangang Star,
Rupture
Tianjiu Star,
Rupture
Tiantui Star,
Burn, Tremor
Ring:
Pointalist,
Bleed, Burn, Tremor, Rupture, Sinking
Fauvists,
Bleed, Sinking
Corporists,
Bleed, Charge
2 full runs
no fucking.... no fucking... no fucking secret boss yet... I'm at Floor 13... give me a bossssss
do you mean pinky for Dihui Star
or
all of the stars actually
Yah that’s a typo
isnt it kinda ironic that aedd greg works well with the ring nf duo bc theyre all charge ids with aoes
(id love to use aedd greg i have him but i have no thread nor tickets
)
fascia ated it all
I’m curious if we’ll ever get to see Surrealism translated into the City as a Ring movement.
I would figure they concern themselves with the Light or maybe the Rivers.
Abnormalities, Distortions, E.G.O. could all be considered physical manifestations of unconscious thought and desire. I could see a Surrealist Ring faction experimenting with Monoliths the same way the Pointillists experimented with the Mirror.
Absurdists would go hard
Also we can and should have R. Mutt the renegade Maestro that the Ring establishment can’t decide whether to execute or promote
Callisto would call it gauche and an insult to the very Ring, but I think Ryoshu would find it a brilliant abbreviation of the creation process itself
Though I guess instead of a urinal, the piece would have to be something like a corpse retrieved from someone else’s kill operation, bagged and signed and sent to the Ring’s exhibition as-is
"U.H.T. A masterpiece."
Also based on everything Garion has said there’s no way she wasn’t at least a little interested in Ring exhibitions
She probably swung by a few of their museums and/or shows
I really want to see a ring Maestro who is incredibly fucking controversial in the ring yeah
do
do we have any scenes of like
being caught in alliances of convenience mechanically?
like
3 factions fighting and the LCB has to go through faction A and faction B just happens to be raiding them too
Sort of, never represented in game though
and we fight with faction B units in the game
yeah
which is why i specified because i think it's a lot of missed potential
we're starting to get that type of thing with the LCE
and verg
I really would fuck with a fight where we get an ally party of guys who attack non faction members sometimes because their trigger discipline is imperfect
but it's same company so
that'd be pretty cool
better have friendly fire enabled
it would be funny to have fellsang shoot them
Zwei Association raid where they accidentally attack non-Zwei party members sometimes with Salvo