Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[vagrant dove]

Definitely

I think it gets a bit more two-sided vaguely good natured dynamic after cantos 5 and 6, but there is a beef there

[stoic fjord]

I think it's a friendly rivalry that gets a little heated sometimes

[fickle crown]

The Doctor and Amiya watching in horror as Dante pulls out the Fell Bullet strat

[vagrant dove]

That moment in the collab is so fucking funny

"Can you please kill my friends?"

[stoic fjord]

Sinclair letting out a resigned sigh as Yi Sang aims the sights at him

[vagrant dove]

Poor Amiya

[fickle crown]

Amiya has to feel the Sinners fucking die repeatedly to shenanigans

[stoic fjord]

Honestly I think Dante would be an awful commander for almost any other group at this point because they're so used to the Sinners and proficient specifically with them

[atomic steeple]

"Manager don, get the responsibility stacks"

[vagrant dove]

She's trying to be all empathetic about it and try to help Dante through the inevitable death of all their friends and then they just hit her with that

[stoic fjord]

Like, incredible leader for these chucklefucks and NO ONE else

[fickle crown]

Tbf I think this just has to do with the horrifically chaotic dynamics the sinners have in the first place

[atomic steeple]

"Amiya, I am bringing the Ring team
Things will get... Fucked up"

[stoic fjord]

<Amiya, I'm running burn, you might see Faust explode.>

[cosmic gorge]

"Sacrificing your underlings to achieve victory is kinda fucked up. I hope I don't have to reckon with this sort of behavior with people I know."
Doctor chokes on their noodles somewhere

[keen palm]

This is specifically canon

[vagrant dove]

Fundamentally I think Heathcliff plays on all of Ishmael's nerves and she represents his problems with authority a lot, which does lead to a volatile dynamic

[stoic fjord]

<Also, Sinclair might blow off his hand if he makes a mistake.>

[signal kindle]

“My team would always work to defend eachother, I want to make sure they’ll do their best”
“<P + Enter>”

[cosmic gorge]

put el dante in the soulsborne world and have them command 3-4 hollow ganksquads

[atomic steeple]

Amiya: This sculpture... The minds are screaming...

[keen palm]

In the Arknights collab they note that Dante at this point is basically shit at anything other than directing THEY immortal goons

[vagrant dove]

Like even down to the way he dresses (sloppily(

[stoic fjord]

Lmao

[signal kindle]

Don’t attack my boy Dante

[atomic steeple]

Their

[signal kindle]

He’s just a scrungly fella

[stoic fjord]

They

[atomic steeple]

Faust: Fascinating... Id tech can pull people if they count as gear

[cosmic gorge]

nightreign streamer dante au

[signal kindle]

I wonder if Dante is full body prosthetic or not

Is it ever mentioned?

[fickle crown]

Probably not

Plus the clock is... Weird

[vagrant dove]

Just the head I think

[signal kindle]

Yeah

[fickle crown]

I think Dante's full body is just never shown to keep with the ambiguous gender

[stoic fjord]

unlikely, the clock is strange and we never see any of their body

[vagrant dove]

another banger

[keen palm]

We do know they bleed

Since Ishi stabbed them

[cosmic gorge]

what color was the blood

also

while this convo was happening

winrating my bleed team

saw some pvp

[signal kindle]

Just like unless they are intentionally keeping to they/them (which hey go my NB legend) you think they’d know whenever they went to the toilet (presuming they had any bodily functions at all tbh)

[cosmic gorge]

goes to show how casually horrifying these tactics are to the outsider

dant doesnt need to eat i think

so dant presumably doesnt need to defecate

[signal kindle]

Yea

[vagrant dove]

which they must have felt grateful for during hell's chicken with the concoctions the sinners were making

[signal kindle]

The only thing I can directly think he does is sleep

[vagrant dove]

3 day blinding stew ass meals

[fickle crown]

Tbf I think individually some of them can cook well

This is another situation where throwing these idiots together is just

[vagrant dove]

meursault can absolutely cook well

[fickle crown]

Really bad

[cosmic gorge]

too many cooks spoil the broth

you do not need 12 bozos to make this soup

[vagrant dove]

it's just that most of the sinners either have gone through horrible environments or were pre-canto 7 don level bad

[fickle crown]

Yeah, the all girls (and Sinclair) team made this clear

[vagrant dove]

ishmael too probably

[cosmic gorge]

ishmael might be a takeout girl

or a quick evening meal after clocking out late

[fickle crown]

Don is just an awful chef though

[cosmic gorge]

||starving child? teenager? before becoming a vampire||

[atomic steeple]

Had a thought
Outis would gladly invite dante to a family cookout
But very grudgingly invite the bus crew

[cosmic gorge]

also good heavens look at the time

i am having too much fun shredding people that i neglected to sleep early

(1230amrightnow)

[stoic fjord]

Ryoshu I think is probably technically skilled and impressive, she just doesn't actually like

make food

[fickle crown]

Even with her memories back her fixer soup would've given everyone diarrhea

Man was meant to consume that much liquid sugar

[stoic fjord]

how did Araya survive Ryoshu's cooking

[atomic steeple]

Lei heng cooked

[stoic fjord]

honestly imagining Lei Heng in like

[atomic steeple]

Or the nursefathers

[fickle crown]

Ryoshu feeds the shit Matthias gets her to Araya

[stoic fjord]

a mom apron

is peak visuals

[atomic steeple]

Lei heng made every cut delicious

[cosmic gorge]

i cant imagine the nursefathers cooking

except maybe rien

serviceable but loveless meals

[fickle crown]

I bet Matthias just bought Ryoshu a fucking watermelon unprompted and she just cut it and handed it to Araya because she wasn't interested in eating it

[atomic steeple]

I legit like lei heng's relationship to ryoshu

[cosmic gorge]

cool uncle by default of every other mentor figure being awful

[atomic steeple]

Worst guy ever
But also kept it real

[stoic fjord]

in all seriousness though ||Ryoshu was noted as actually being decent at making food for Araya, the modern stuff is not the same||

[fickle crown]

||Damn, guess she lost some of her cooking memories by swinging that sword around||

||Arayashaki makes you a bad cook... Truly the worst fate imaginable||

[signal kindle]

“Love town cooking” (it’s the only apron he could find in his massive chest size) apron while he uses his big ass sword to make the tiniest fucking cuts because the heat of the blade instantly cooks the food

[atomic steeple]

||Yield my cooking to slash my parents||

[vagrant dove]

hold on we can tierlist this

[stoic fjord]

sinner cooking skills?

[vagrant dove]

yeah

i think this is indisputable

[stoic fjord]

yeah

[fickle crown]

But yeah, Matthias handing Ryoshu candy and other goodies unprompted only for Ryoshu to just pass it down to Araya sounds in character for the lot of them (with Ryoshu just saying not to eat unhealthily all the time)

[signal kindle]

Don Quixote burned down the kitchen but she did in cutely so she gets a pass

[vagrant dove]

current status

[signal kindle]

Yi sang burned it down because looking at the burning food caused him to write poetry

[stoic fjord]

Faust can because of the Faustcord

[signal kindle]

Faust can cook

[stoic fjord]

Gregor is definitively mid, we know this

Ryoshu burns down the kitchen intentionally

[fickle crown]

Actually I'd put Ishmael in the competent section, sailors need to get fucking creative with their meals

[keen palm]

Heath is mid

[signal kindle]

Rodion can cook and Ishmael can cook but it’s only fish and chips

[stoic fjord]

Sinclair I think probably cannot cook very well

[vagrant dove]

he knows how to boil an egg but he also does not cover himself in glory during HK

heathcliff

[stoic fjord]

mhm

[tiny cave]

sinclair tries to cook but the smell of fire reminds him of kromer, then he breaks down

[vagrant dove]

definitive

[tiny cave]

nclair can definitely cook though

cook heretics

[signal kindle]

“Mersault I need you to cook something so good that Rodion shuts up”
“Consider it done manager”
Creates the ambrosia of the gods

[stoic fjord]

I think I agree with this list

I wonder if we can expand this to like

[signal kindle]

And apparently my allies since I have harmony on him and he corrodes constantly

[stoic fjord]

other characters besides the sinners

[vagrant dove]

if we do ids

nfaust is in burned down the kitchen

that gamer ass mfer is not cooking shit

[stoic fjord]

oh no I mean like, side characters

[tiny cave]

charon is in masterchef

verg is in cannot cook

[stoic fjord]

Lei Heng, Jia Qiu, Charon, Vergilius, etc.

[signal kindle]

Index Faust can cook shed have to have learned to for the prescripts

[signal kindle]

Such despicable lies

[tiny cave]

index faust cooks in her uptie story

[signal kindle]

My boy CAN cookd

[stoic fjord]

he's a single dad who's goated at cooking

[fickle crown]

Vergilius wouldn't know how to raise orphans without knowing how to make a good meal

[vagrant dove]

i'd put verg in let them cook

charon is in cannot cook

[fickle crown]

Charon is unironically the only person that would be able to stomach Don's fixer soup without any negative consequences

[vagrant dove]

stomach hardened by candy

[signal kindle]

Charon these days only knows three things
“Mephi Vroom-vroom”
“Mephi is hungry”
“I want ice cream”

[fickle crown]

I actually bet Don's cooking would make Vespa regret stealing food from the sinners

[signal kindle]

VII ||Can Sancho cook tho||

[vagrant dove]

the vile brew

[stoic fjord]

no.

[fickle crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-meal-bruhmoment-robustar-funny-gif-20116727

[signal kindle]

Most scrumptious looking Borstch

[cosmic gorge]

She dignifies herself more by not even trying

[fickle crown]

Okay but actually iirc Sancho could cook

Just like

We know this from the cinnamon cookies line

[cosmic gorge]

Oh yeah

[stoic fjord]

oh, I forgot

[fickle crown]

Either she got worse over time or she does it for the bit

[signal kindle]

Free my boy from the burns down the kitchen tier she can cook

[fickle crown]

Admittedly the fixer soup idea might've just been her making the best of a bad situation given Rodion only had sugary shit for everyone to eat

And frankly they're lucky nobody decided to nibble the forbidden jerky

[vagrant dove]

fixed

[lime swan]

outis in master chef consistentlly is weird, she won HC cus she was nagging and her cooking was momlike

[cosmic gorge]

Moms cook really well

[lime swan]

yeah shes high but i think meursault is the best cook

[fickle crown]

Outis the kinda person to give you chicken soup with octopus hot dogs in it

[lime swan]

alone in his tier

[vagrant dove]

i'd argue heart is important when cooking

[cosmic gorge]

Idk its my personal experiience with mom cookiv
Not my mom specifically

[vagrant dove]

meursault is technically impressive

but in a sort of fine dining way imo

[stoic fjord]

not your opinion dawg that's what the text says

Bongy says it's too clean and professional to truly touch the soul or some shit

[lime swan]

tbf tho, he runs a fried chicken joint

and got turned into a chicken

[stoic fjord]

and fried chicken is a top 10 food

[fickle crown]

Separate "Dumpster Rat" tier for Yi Sang, bro unironically drinks spoiled milk for the fun of the game and would've absolutely taken a bite out of that rotten potato if Meursault didn't snatch it from him

[vagrant dove]

the ryoshu distribution is really funny

[fickle crown]

Alternatively it's just "Yi Sang" tier lmao

[atomic steeple]

It's absolutely perfect
So it lacks personal touches from its flaws
Bongy regrets not giving a high score, but his integrity as a chef stops him from doing so
And meursault accepts it

[stoic fjord]

what do we think of Jia Qiu, Zilu, and Zigong?

in terms of cooking

[fickle crown]

Zigong is probably the one that does the cooking ngl

[vagrant dove]

let's do cantos sequentially

[stoic fjord]

okay yeah true

[vagrant dove]

no data on the three uh

iori goons

i think

[stoic fjord]

nope

[fickle crown]

Zilu... I wouldn't trust her, Jia Qiu would relegate cooking to the other two ngl

[vagrant dove]

they strike me as takeout people

[stoic fjord]

Yuri I feel cannot cook

[fickle crown]

I don't think the Heishou are good cooks in general

[stoic fjord]

yeah

[fickle crown]

Especially not the Si branch

Those mfs can't even taste

[stoic fjord]

hrmmm... Sonya... do we think he can cook?

[fickle crown]

Mid

I want to say mid

He makes something that's necessary, not good

[stoic fjord]

I think I agree with that judgement

[vagrant dove]

gubo is not cooking

his ass is takeout

[fickle crown]

They just let Nelly do all the work

[split beacon]

Nelly is probably some kind of godlike chef just incidentally as a side skill

[vagrant dove]

critical analysis here

[fickle crown]

Also Starbuck probably makes some good shit unironically

No way he'd want to open a business unless he was skilled

[vagrant dove]

hopkins ect

can they cook

[fickle crown]

No

Absolutely not

[split beacon]

I think we know that Hong Lu can cook

but it's exclusively like

[fickle crown]

Hopkins is the kinda guy that'd buy chicken nuggets every day

[split beacon]

fanciful traditional dishes and only with the giant mega kitchen at Hongyuan

[fickle crown]

I do not trust any of the N-Corp Inquisition to cook shit, they eat actual canned slop

[split beacon]

also my called shot is that Faust thinks she can cook because she knows how but has none of the practical experience or muscle memory and therefore cannot

[vagrant dove]

g corp manager and hermann

[fickle crown]

G-Corp Manager probably taught Gregor how to cook so mid

[vagrant dove]

fair, I put her in mid because she probably has the theory but none of the uh

[fickle crown]

Hermann... Might actually be an alright cook despite having a worst mother of the year award

[vagrant dove]

actual practice

[split beacon]

cooking is more practice than theory

[vagrant dove]

might dump faust down to bad at it, since we don't really see her do it during HK

[stoic fjord]

I don't think Aya can cook either, she's very much like.

Idk, she just gives me that vibe

[fickle crown]

I don't think most of the League of Nine can throw anything together in a competent manner, they probably just get whatever slop they can cook in a bucket, eat it, and go back to whatever work they were doing

[vagrant dove]

I think effie and saude can

they have their shit together

i don't think they often do

probably forced to subsist on takeout due to the nature of their job

[split beacon]

like old league of nine or new league of nine

[fickle crown]

Old league

Plus it's T-Corp, I wouldn't expect any good quality stuff for the average person

[split beacon]

something about Dongrang makes me think he's actually diabolically good at cooking

[fickle crown]

Subsisting off of British food...

[vagrant dove]

it isn't that bad!

[split beacon]

he seems like the type of guy to be shockingly good and then never cook because he's so busy all the time

[fickle crown]

I know

[vagrant dove]

especially since jellied eels started dying out

[fickle crown]

I'm half joking, but T-Corp probably does make some genuinely tasteless crap for the workers

[vagrant dove]

iprobably yeah

gruel

[stoic fjord]

idk why but I feel like he would probably be the guy out of the nine who didn't do weed and probably made food when everyone else got the munchies

[stoic fjord]

I think this is a good read

and i'd be willing to nominate him for a spot in masterchef off of this vibe

[vagrant dove]

current list (up to canto 3)

is this agreeable

idk where to place aida

[fickle crown]

I think that Linton is too ill to cook for himself so he's just in a disqualified section, we do see Butler Outis serving tea so I bet Josephine is actually in the same class as Nelly in terms of food quality, and Hindley is a fucking bum who can't do shit for himself

[vagrant dove]

i do not think siegfried can cook

[fickle crown]

Cathy it's unclear but I imagine she relegated cooking to Nelly

[vagrant dove]

speaking of canto 4

shrenne, samjo and dongbaek

[fickle crown]

Samjo is a takeout guy, Dongbaek would make something absolutely wretched, and Shrenne... Eh, also takeout

[stoic fjord]

we're forgetting Ran :(

[vagrant dove]

oh ran

i don't think she cooks

[fickle crown]

Ran feels like the kind of person that subsists purely off of black coffee

[stoic fjord]

yeah me either

exactly

[split beacon]

Josephine can obviously cook, she's probably one of the best in the entire story so far

[vagrant dove]

100% black coffee and energy drinks

[stoic fjord]

coffee fiend

[split beacon]

but also she's a little nuts. so you have to watch out for that.

[atomic steeple]

Shrenne: ran is the meal

[vagrant dove]

oh alfonso

[split beacon]

too rich for it

[stoic fjord]

I highly doubt she can cook

too-

yeah

[split beacon]

alfonso has a personal chef or something

flexes on the poors by having a cyborg body that eats

just because she can

[vagrant dove]

added a new tier

[stoic fjord]

I think Bongy makes good food but isn't actually master-chef tier

[vagrant dove]

ill downgrade to let them cook

[stoic fjord]

he's just a guy who owns a restauraunt and it's good but it's not like, the most incredible thing ever

[vagrant dove]

the Molar crew

I think Olga is a takeout fiend

[stoic fjord]

they make the crab stuff

[vagrant dove]

true

[stoic fjord]

...that should honestly detract points from them

that shit was rancid

[vagrant dove]

we'll put them in bad at it

[stoic fjord]

I think that works

[vagrant dove]

okay canto 5

Ahab I think can cook

[fickle crown]

Nah, Starbuck can

[stoic fjord]

I don't think she can, honestly

[fickle crown]

Ahab is mid

At best

[stoic fjord]

too focused on the whale

doesn't care about cooking

[tired canyon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/maudit-maudit-justice-league-the-flash-ZSvAC5c9RkW4g

[crimson spindle]

MDE 15/60: lol, lmao

[fickle crown]

Like the bare basic survival shit is what Ahab makes

I think without Starbuck the entire crew would be eating struggle meals

[stoic fjord]

I think especially since she's the captain she's a tier down from ish

[vagrant dove]

i don't think the landlordling (pip) can cook

[stoic fjord]

he's a literal child

[fickle crown]

God no

[vagrant dove]

Pilot?

[fickle crown]

Pilot would fail at making a TV dinner

No questions asked, bottom tier

[stoic fjord]

he could fuck up pre-packaged food I think

[vagrant dove]

ricardo??

either a takeout fiend or secretly good i think

[fickle crown]

Okay, Ricardo is an interesting one because he probably does make some of the most wholesome shit imaginable for his boys

Plus the Middle gets on Middle Ishmael's case for her bad diet

[stoic fjord]

I think Ricardo would be meal-prepping for his boys

[tiny cave]

middle are a bunch of gym junkies imo

[stoic fjord]

perfected macros

[tiny cave]

probably some high protein stuff

[split beacon]

nah, Ricardo comes across as Mid at cooking but with good taste

[stoic fjord]

300 grams protein minimum a day or some shit

[stoic fjord]

true...

[split beacon]

like he knows what good food is but let's be real my guy is too busy pursuing the Middle grindset

[stoic fjord]

okay yeah I think that fits

[vagrant dove]

okay that lo9 member in canto 5

i don't think he fucking eats honestly

[stoic fjord]

do you mean the uhhh

Blue Guy?

Rim?

[cosmic gorge]

Bowlhead

[stoic fjord]

or do you mean Aseah

[cosmic gorge]

Yes

[vagrant dove]

blue guy yeah

[stoic fjord]

okay Rim from the Blue Man Group...

I say either Unclear or Can't Cook

because

we know jack shit

but also bro doesn't have a mouth

[vagrant dove]

can the indigo elder cook

(last c5 character of note)

[tiny cave]

he can cook fish

[vagrant dove]

i think bro makes the most diabolical (positive) chowder

[fickle crown]

Valencina definitely can't fucking cook, that bitch definitely just subsists off of all of the booze she has laying around and throws a bottle at Lucio to make him get her more

We already know Lei Heng is the only one in his section that can probably cook without turning the kitchen into a fire hazard

That mfs goons tried dumping oil on a fire

[cosmic gorge]

I think Rien is mid at cooking

[stoic fjord]

canto 6 I think we already covered everyone

[stoic fjord]

already said but not on the list

[vagrant dove]

hindley absolutely cannot cook

[cosmic gorge]

Not yet

[tiny cave]

araya can cook octopus skewer

[keen palm]

Funnily enough Valencia is the only one who seems to have taught Ryoshu how to make actual food

Given her good flashback was her teaching vodka and rice

[vagrant dove]

updated

[stoic fjord]

Canto 7...

Bari, Papa Don, Barber, Priest, Dulcinela, the Fanghunt Fixers, Cesara, Camille, Paula...

[vagrant dove]

canto 6

plus the intervallos

i do not think hubert cooks

nor does casetti

[stoic fjord]

I think none of the corp execs do

[vagrant dove]

i think Kim can absolutely cook a mean meal

[cosmic gorge]

Or as part of his larp hes a takeout fiend

"Hampampang. Takeout. Eat All. Give None. Show Daughter Empty Plate."

[cosmic gorge]

Fanghunt would be mid

Hunter rations

Maybe

[stoic fjord]

Cesara does not, because rich

[vagrant dove]

camille is a takeout fiend

streamer

[fickle crown]

As for Callisto... No, absolutely not. Albina is lucky to have a full body prosthetic because his and her taste in food is probably as grotesque as their art. Lessee here... Matthias is a takeout fiend through and through, he'd rather get you McDonald's than make a proper meal, I don't think he even taught Kira how to cook an egg. Ren and the Pinky Nursefather can probably cook something serviceable but it's nothing amazing. Sora would just eat ice cream, Lucio probably is one of the best cooks in the House of Spiders

[vagrant dove]

can the multicrack office cook (important)

[stoic fjord]

I think from what little we have seen they tend to order or go out to eat but I think they're probably decent at it

[fickle crown]

Serviceable but nothing special

[vagrant dove]

I don't think many of the manchegan bloodfiends can cook tbh

especially not don

(of la mancha)

[stoic fjord]

for one, no reason to

and also no practice

[keen palm]

Fanghunt would rule

Garlic

[vagrant dove]

bari i think can

and would be good at it

[fickle crown]

Bari makes some good shit, she has all the time in the world to hone her craft

[vagrant dove]

or would be a takeout fiend

[stoic fjord]

nah I say GOATed

possibly the 4th for masterchef

[vagrant dove]

the Hana official and Paula?

+Wei and Xichun

wei i think cooks a mean fucking meal

[stoic fjord]

Wei I think can cook very well

[vagrant dove]

xichun i will put in cannot cook

she has wei

[fickle crown]

But yeah, personal consensus on the House of Spiders for me is that Ren and Lucio (and maybe Valencina when she bothers to get off her sorry ass and do something) are the best cooks in the house

[stoic fjord]

agreed

[vagrant dove]

paula i might put in takeout fiend

[atomic steeple]

Maybe she got home econ classes

[vagrant dove]

the hana official i think would either cook or go to fancy resturants and shit

i cannot remember her name off the top of my head since she's just in the briefing

han-ul

[fickle crown]

Too busy almost dying repeatedly I'd say

[cosmic gorge]

Looks like kjh's avatar but older and as a mom

Its funny

[vagrant dove]

up to canto 7

[fickle crown]

KJH's mom... Oh no...

[vagrant dove]

regular checkup

hohenheim et al are takeout fiends

[fickle crown]

Actually I'd say Marton can cook surprisingly well

[vagrant dove]

True

Hohenheim subsists off of coffee and instant ramen though

[fickle crown]

Alyssa is somewhere in the middle I'd say

Nothing amazing but if she really wants to she can

[ebon forge]

Matthias has 0 fucking clue how to cook

[vagrant dove]

Absolutely

That mfer is a takeout fiend

I made that tier for him

[ebon forge]

Shiomi, solid as fuck but eats only stoner food

Rien can cook a little but his diet is 80% hamham pangpang

[eternal gull]

such is the prescript

[atomic steeple]

He hates it

[vagrant dove]

Shi yihua's ass cannot cook

This is known

[eternal gull]

10% actual food
10% bodyparts from random proselytes
80% hamham pangpang

[ebon forge]

Valencina can cook a LITTLE

Just a little

Like, eggs

And not much else

[vagrant dove]

Zigong Jia Qiu and Zilu can but with varying degrees of competence I think

[eternal gull]

the food gives you truama (mental and physical)

[fickle crown]

I already put it out there that Lucio and Ren are probably good cooks, Lucio because he gets beaten for every fuck up and Ren because he's got nothing better to do but play with his sword all day

[ebon forge]

Jia Qiu I think is like, a master chef

[fickle crown]

Sora would literally just live off of ice cream if she could

[atomic steeple]

The prescripts tell him to eat it
Even when spoiled
For rien sang, he's instead forced to eat it unspoiled

[vagrant dove]

Valencina's diet is 80% cigarettes and alcohol and 20% actual food

[ebon forge]

He doesn’t put particularly extra time into it, he just loves this world and everything inside it

[eternal gull]

Valencinas french?

[ebon forge]

I started drawing my sword everyday-

[fickle crown]

I got nothing to say about Kira aside from the fact she can only cook cup noodles and nothing else

God forbid anyone lets Albina into the kitchen, that shit will give everyone mental damage

[ebon forge]

Ok but let’s be real Albina’s cooking has got to be some INSANE shit

Like she’s gonna make some stuff that if you can get over the eldritch horror

Is gonna taste like an eldritch ascension

[vagrant dove]

I think most of the positions for c8s cast are clear (nobles who have other people to do it for them)

Except

Lei Heng

Does he cook

Or is he a takeout fiend

[fickle crown]

On one hand maybe, but on the other hand it might only be good on the surface level and it turns out to be raw in the middle

[ebon forge]

Lei Heng feels like the kind of guy who CAN cook and CAN make a basic but good meal but doesn’t bother since he can make the thumb chef kiddie do it for him

[vagrant dove]

True

Garion?

[fickle crown]

Okay, fuck no. Absolutely not. He saw what his goons did in the kitchen and now he's the only one cooking in there to avoid another oil fire incident

[ebon forge]

Too busy drinking tea

[vagrant dove]

I think she brews god's greatest tea but nothing else

[ebon forge]

There’s gotta be at least one or two of them who can cook and are stuck in kitchen duty

[vagrant dove]

Night Drifter?

He strikes me as someone who used to cook

But after the horrors

Takeout fiend

[fickle crown]

Also Lei Heng doesn't have a single sloth skill in his repertoire

[fickle crown]

I think even if he has people cooking under him he's keeping an eye on all of them

[vagrant dove]

Oh also allen and hanafuda

That's the laat of the semi-important c8 cast

Oh lin daiyu

I forgot to add lin daiyu

I think she's in wei's tier

[ebon forge]

Yeah but not cooking doesn’t mean being lazy

He’s a huge deal, he has more important things to do

[fickle crown]

Allen seems like a team player based off of Peggor's story that at least tries to get his friends something good to eat, but I don't think he cooks. Hanafuda strikes me as a takeout fiend or the kind of fixer you'd find in a sleazy bar after business is done

[vagrant dove]

I'll put them both in takeout fiend

Okay

A Certain Fixer, Callisto, Albina, Jamila, Ezra, Moses, Vespa

Are the last of our candidates

[fickle crown]

Callisto just... No

Please no

Same with Albina

Ezra and Moses are takeout fiends, Vespa would rather steal crap from his coworkers

[vagrant dove]

I've stuck rien, matthias and *kira in takeout fiends

Lucio and ren in let them cook

Valencina in Bad At It

[atomic steeple]

Yuria learned to cook to try to rizz women

[vagrant dove]

Sora goes in Cannot Cook

Same with Araya

Questions, comments, concerns

[split beacon]

Vespa is the embodiment of "let's bum off our seniors"

[cloud wadi]

Well you say that

[split beacon]

an absolute rascal

[cloud wadi]

But clearly lei Heng enjoyed callisto’s hospitality before

[split beacon]

Callisto can't cook but he can definitely entertain guests

[cloud wadi]

Since Lei Sault talks about enjoying wine with teeth at spider’s house

[split beacon]

Jamila lives off of packaged lunches that LCA sends her

take that as you will

[cloud wadi]

Which strongly implies to me that Callisto treats his guests to some fucked avant garde culinary masterpieces

[split beacon]

okay take incoming, I think Garion knows how to cook purely as an academic thing

[lean fjord]

Tbf, considering LCA funds their meals are probably luxurious af too

[cloud wadi]

She definitely knows how to brew and serve tea

[split beacon]

She seems like the type to have a kitchen in her apartment she never uses, but she's cooked before even though she doesn't have to and doesn't need to purely so she can say she's done it and experienced it

it's about being in touch with humanity, you know?

[crimson spindle]

garion could take any recipe and follow it perfectly. she however, chooses not to. I think she eats a lot of sushi or other raw foods, for the agony.

[ebon forge]

The live octopus stuff, ya know?

[split beacon]

see her philosophical inclination seems like she's the type to have replicated a selection of traditional cooking techniques and meals

[atomic steeple]

Binah cooks for hod and roland

[split beacon]

at some point in her life

for cultural enrichment

[cloud wadi]

Boiled lobster

[crimson spindle]

yeah

[split beacon]

now Binah, she bakes cookies and smiles to herself when she sees people obviously squirming in anticipation from the smell

[cloud wadi]

Boiled clams

Lobster soul sandwich

[crimson spindle]

garion the type to go to one of those restaraunts where they bring the animal you're about to have slaughtered for the meal out in front of you so you can pick

and she picks whichever one looks the most afraid

[vagrant dove]

i have the list semi-finalised, any philosophical disputes

[cloud wadi]

One of those who enjoys seeing shrimp boiled alive at Chinese restaurants

[split beacon]

the night drifter is in the right spot but know that he has a fried rice recipe

[vagrant dove]

yeah i believe he has a fried rice recipe he just chooses the takeout fiend lifestyle

[crimson spindle]

carefully observing the fish in the tank at the chinese restaurant

looking for the one that seems the most in pain

[split beacon]

like he absolutely can cook for himself when it comes down to it, but he's a careless jackass

also how are we saying Valencina is bad at cooking when she's mastered pouring the vodka over the cereal

[vagrant dove]

the peak of meals

[fickle crown]

Because she's blackout drunk while doing it and burnt the eggs, then gave them to Lucio because he didn't practice enough

[vagrant dove]

"grains lovingly marinated in a vodka sauce"

[lean fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/vodka-trago-two-shots-sandra-lee-drinks-gif-17311494

[split beacon]

I feel like one of the Molar Office fixers has to be able to cook

otherwise they're all starving when contracts come up short

[vagrant dove]

why is baby ryoshu in let the cook hold on a sec

moved to cannot cook

[split beacon]

Santi is definitely like

[dusty sigil]

They make trash crab wins and stews

[split beacon]

devious fiend of frying up whatever he catches

[dusty sigil]

It doesn’t taste good but like

[vagrant dove]

fixed!

[dusty sigil]

That’s more telling of the ingredients then the cook

[split beacon]

doesn't know what you do with vegetables, has never cared

[dusty sigil]

I don’t think anyone can make trash crabs taste good

[vagrant dove]

also shi yihua will stay in burned down the kitchen

he's the kind to try out of spite and pride

then accidentally cause the entire thing to combust

[split beacon]

you KNOW Hubert has tried to build some kind of chefinator

[vagrant dove]

he would

[split beacon]

oh also I have a thought on Xichun

which is that she actually probably can cook considering she's been out on her own thugging it out with basically just her and Wei

[vagrant dove]

true...

i'll put her in mid maybe

[stoic fjord]

I feel like Wei cooks, though

[vagrant dove]

wei might have taught her honestly

[split beacon]

Wei cooks but Wei the type to be like "my lady you need to know how to cook some basics for yourself in case I'm held up"

because he's dadpilled as FUCK

[keen palm]

Lei Heng is the only person in the cast who can barbecue

[split beacon]

I suspect Meursault can

because he's omnidisciplined

[keen palm]

Mersault can make barbecue

He cannot barbecue

[split beacon]

okay

I understand

[keen palm]

🙂‍↕️ 🙂‍↕️

[split beacon]

Meursault has culinary knowledge of it, he knows the techniques and such

[atomic steeple]

Invite meursault to the cookout

[split beacon]

Lei Heng is a man who has grilled and will grill again

[vagrant dove]

patched

[keen palm]

Lei Heng the type of guy who pulls out a sauce that is tar thick that he calls Scumfucker

[vagrant dove]

ACS is still unclear

probably gregoresque tbh

shitass canned food

[split beacon]

ACS is on the Gregor grindset

He’s figuring it out with what he’s got and what he’s got is NOTHING

[vagrant dove]

making a meal out of hardtack and chipped beef

[split beacon]

In a cave with a box of scraps tier

[stoic fjord]

Lei Heng pulling up prepared to smoke the biggest fucking cut of meat you've ever seen and it's gonna take 12 hours or some shit and it's going to be incredible

[split beacon]

He will not be contributing in any other way to the cookout though

[stoic fjord]

true

[gentle mulch]

oh my god i just realized hohenheim's 50/50 thing is applicable to the coinflip battle system

[split beacon]

No sides, no vegetables, no prep work

[stoic fjord]

still can't even get all that mad at him for it despite

[split beacon]

Thumb cookouts are rank deterministic and he outranks all of you at the grill

[vagrant dove]

made a new tier for gregor, the molar office guys and ACS

forced to work with slop

[stoic fjord]

put it above bad

[split beacon]

The Nursefather cookout going mild as fuck while Matthias is on the phone trying to harangue someone who isnt a weird creep into bringing food

All because Callisto needs seven days and seven nights to get his freak ass entree perfect

[vagrant dove]

Fixed!

[stoic fjord]

excellent

[vagrant dove]

Probably spent all of last day marinating it

That man would make the best ribs you've ever tasted in your life

[fickle crown]

Btw, this reminds me. Rien would totally make something out of that one horror movie where it looks like some gourmet stuff (like the weird shit) but it's all grey and lifeless looking

Like you can tell that it was made with zero soul

[split beacon]

I have no idea what you’re talking about but I’m vibing with it

[stoic fjord]

The Menu?

[fickle crown]

Yeah that

He feels like the kind of person to make that kind of food if he's left to his own devices

[stoic fjord]

I can see it

[fickle crown]

Dude wants to make a regular ass sandwich for once and the prescript forces him to make some wackass conceptual shit that doesn't even taste good

Honestly, I think Rien could make some amazing stuff if he were to do it of his own volition

But like everything else he's too afraid to make that decision

[uneven canopy]

he can't bread that dish...

[vagrant dove]

Born to cook, forced to order hamhampangpang

[stoic fjord]

I think besides yuri heng my favorite crack theory is HHPP is someone's E.G.O

[fickle crown]

I think that's also why he fits so well with Yi Sang. Sure, the prescripts make him miserable, but it's pre-determined misery. He's comfortable with it because as much as he hates it, it's still defined enough for him to follow through because it's the only thing that's familiar to him anymore

[signal kindle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/U4tJvC-k-gY?si=LOaPoSvwIB2ict1h

the way this person pronounces things is killing me

[signal kindle]

The humble “indulgence in the prescripts”

[fickle crown]

When your shitty life is perpetuated by a shitty god that you hate but you're too comfortable with said shitty life to change anything about your situation

Because Rien is ultimately trapped in a cage of his own making

[keen palm]

Chills if he was a Limbus youtuber

[eternal gull]

I feel called out (is this iron lotus?)

[stoic fjord]

the fact this isn't even slander is what makes it so much worse

[dusty sigil]

My first thought was fly broken wings

[tired canyon]

OKgossypium 15 is walling me

any tips?

[stoic fjord]

...I got nothin.

[tired canyon]

ok gonna

continue trying ig

[stoic fjord]

like... 1 rupture poise off of having a rupoise team, and even then, you can't fuse it now

single status teams can work in Limbus, they just kind of need to be well-planned, such that you optimize your trials and floors

[tired canyon]

well everyone is always critting every turn so it feels like i am doing rupoise anyway

[eternal gull]

doing my first hard mode MD :o

heres hoping for 10,000 secret boss

[stoic fjord]

you're not, since those crits aren't coming off of S3s with a free +12 power

[tired canyon]

whatever

go my CoO spam

[atomic steeple]

Aedd gregor vs hidden md boss
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJ5X1pxV-U||

[atomic steeple]

There's more to the sunshine than it's warmth
https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1sh11y0/the_warmth_of_the_sunshine_yongsadragon/

[split beacon]

MEURSAULT

ELABORATE ON THAT

[tired canyon]

i am never picking greenery on md60 again bro

[atomic steeple]

Woo got a bleed charge team
Put in kodya so it's 5 charge members

Just need to level everyone

[crimson spindle]

i literally just did that and I just murdered the stupid horse asshole before his vine even got a chance to attack

[tired canyon]

the horse unfortunately has 70k hp

[crimson spindle]

yeah I just did a casual 35k damage a turn

it's only like 5k per sinner, like that's hard :v

(ring hong lu did like 15k by himself)

[split beacon]

MDE is very silly

[crimson spindle]

Ring Hong Lu was so busted by the end that I got the 20,000 damage achievement solely from him blasting some people with his skill 3

sinking deluge? time moratorium? for babies, check this shit out

[atomic steeple]

Ring hong lu, in a week: answer me, fauvist packs

Years down the line, R corp hong lu: answer me, r corp packs

[ebon forge]

PLEASE BE CHARGE BLEED

[crimson spindle]

no it's going to be Outis for R Corp

I guarantee it

if we ever get an R Corp leader unit it's going to be Outis Nikolai, trust

[atomic steeple]

On that note
What are good charge units to grab?

[lime swan]

Farmwatch next week

[crimson spindle]

AEDD gregor and W heath are the two best

[ebon forge]

REAPshu, Callisto Hong + Fau, Madonka, AEDD Gregor, KoD Rodya, W Heath

[crimson spindle]

in terms of both ease of use and power

[atomic steeple]

Cool, I have kodya

[lime swan]

Reapshu has fallen

[crimson spindle]

depends if you're also building a hybrid team

[ebon forge]

she's still good

[crimson spindle]

a lot of charge is rupture and a lot of bleed is charge

[atomic steeple]

My charge bleed team is pretty much complete, just needs xp

[ebon forge]

the meta is a lie for most modern IDs

[crimson spindle]

KoD Rodya is good but like, you would tend to use her in sinking or sinking/charge

which is a tighter niche

[atomic steeple]

Yeah
I wanna run bleed charge

[lime swan]

Reapshu came out like over 2 years ago

[crimson spindle]

then you want callisto, fau, AEDD gregor, and weirdly R Heath

[atomic steeple]

Why heath?

[ebon forge]

yeah but she's still good

[stoic fjord]

She's still solid

[crimson spindle]

he's rupture/bleed/charge

[stoic fjord]

Super tanky, survives everything in MDE for me

[crimson spindle]

one of the only units who is 3

this is for MDE building mind

[stoic fjord]

Serious Skullbuster rolls around 75-85 by the end of a run for me

[ebon forge]

her clashes are solid, her healing is solid, has SP regen which is weirdly useful, etc

[crimson spindle]

for generic bleed/charge you can fill out with R Salt or REAPShu

[lime swan]

Modern id as in the mtg format rathe than modern then

[ebon forge]

:p

[lime swan]

Games olddd

[fickle crown]

Based Ishmael but also Jesus Christ why is this node one billion bleed

[stoic fjord]

I think pretty much all of the 000 walp units are still good

Ranging from borderline essential to top tier picks

[lime swan]

The nefarious hooklu

[stoic fjord]

000

Hook Lu is a 00

[fickle crown]

Hooklu is weirdly alright

[crimson spindle]

REAPshu is pretty depreciated for most MDE optimal teams but that's more because Ryoshu's ID selection for most of those is kinda ass

[lime swan]

I am lowering their standards

[main scaffold]

RIP in peace Regret Faust 😔

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Ranging from borderline essential to top tier picks

[fickle crown]

He's not the best but he's not horrible in bleed either

[stoic fjord]

iirc he has really solid count

[ebon forge]

tbh 2 years ago was heath canto

[crimson spindle]

you basically either see FloweryShu (for tremor/sinking) or weirdly ShotgunShu (for bullet teams)

[fickle crown]

Regret Faust still sees use in debilitation teams

[ebon forge]

and don canto was 260 days or smthing

[main scaffold]

Debilitation?

[crimson spindle]

for rupture/poise you do see driftershu

[stoic fjord]

I imagine her being rupture/poise does also help a little seeing as a lot of ammo IDs are poise as well

[ebon forge]

driftshu is better than cinqsault ime

[fickle crown]

There are entire runs dedicated to completely neutering bosses using IDs like N-Corp Heathcliff and Regret Faust

Because they nuke boss coin power into the ground

[lime swan]

Low bar to clear but yes

[crimson spindle]

there's some argument there but I like driftershu

[main scaffold]

Ahhhh

ganransu. ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) There are entire runs dedicated to completely neutering bosses using IDs like N-Corp Heathcliff and …

[fickle crown]

When the six unbreakable coins can't break a number past 0

[crimson spindle]

the issue with debilitation builds is they have to build around surviving round 1 with a not-yet-properly-broken boss, so you have to go for some funny things

it works great though

[fickle crown]

Yep

[main scaffold]

Wait N Cliff does what on his S2

[lime swan]

Tbf that's most floor 11 teams

[fickle crown]

Hehe

Yeah, his S2 is actually evil

[crimson spindle]

eh a properly optimized MDE team doesn't start struggling until about floor 13

[lime swan]

Since staying competitive at full adversity you need to buff debuff

[crimson spindle]

but yeah the last couple of floors are Tuff

[lime swan]

Remember ancient floor 5 mdh ego spam

Only way to get through

Coffee and cranes or the run dies

[fickle crown]

It's certainly not meta (and it can take forever) but it is fun seeing Rien get bent by N-Cliff of all things

[tired canyon]

i am only dealing like

700 per sinner unfortunately

[crimson spindle]

then you proooooobably did not properly prepare to win MDE15/60 unfortunately

[fickle crown]

Admittedly I don't really do MDE because it's like

Not fun

[crimson spindle]

also there are real madmen out there

that's a solo sloshmael 15/50

[fickle crown]

Pffff

Sloshmael is a sidegrade to Zweiclair

[stoic fjord]

there's a guy who did both a Mariachi Sinclair Level 1 Uptie 1 MDE 15/50

[lime swan]

1550 no lunar is harder than any 1550 with it

[stoic fjord]

and a Driftshu Level 1 Uptie 1 MDE 15/50

[lime swan]

That's my hot take

[crimson spindle]

oh yeah lunar memory makes things so much easier

[stoic fjord]

it's not really a hot take if they add a unique achievement for doing MDE without lunar memory

[tired canyon]

oh yeah i dont have lunar lol

[stoic fjord]

but also yeah it makes everything take so much more damage

and the less time everyone spends on the field, the less time you have to get your health chipped down or get 20%ed

[lime swan]

The cheviot doesn't ask más adversity

[crimson spindle]

yeah

it's just floor 15

which is not that bad

[lime swan]

It's p doable by dodging adversity

[stoic fjord]

oh yeah true

[crimson spindle]

you basically need lunar memory for some 15/60 setups because otherwise you're going to hit a wall

[lime swan]

50 is when it gets scary cus you don't realize how many fights count on you being able to clear or stager enemies by certain turns

[crimson spindle]

yeah, that wall

also you are taking damage without any avoidance that can stagger you

[stoic fjord]

okay so

everyone talks about impenetrable path being the worst pack

[crimson spindle]

so if you don't push through fuckin' fastish you're dead

[stoic fjord]

but holy FUCK dawn of green is miserable as a near E.G.Oless gamer

[crimson spindle]

(or abuse the grey coat gloom team)

[gentle mulch]

lol yeah

[stoic fjord]

the humble healing E.G.O gifts:

[crimson spindle]

can't keep up

mostly

[stoic fjord]

30 per round can be handled by a fair amount, ime, but fair

[crimson spindle]

grey coat is like the one one that is still bonkers good

[atomic steeple]

Hm
With 3 charge bleed slots
I have two bleed slots
And two charge slots
So I run kk duo but leave ring outus out
Or put ring outis and aweshu

[stoic fjord]

fair, yeah

[crimson spindle]

but a bunch of the others either only heal a portion of missing health or require enemy stagger

both of which are Way Less Good

[stoic fjord]

it's directly proportional to damage so

[crimson spindle]

grey coat you can just go ham lol

I did solo riensang with all S3s and grey coat

and it was just stupid

[stoic fjord]

it also works with attack weight

[crimson spindle]

touches you once, returns to full health

[stoic fjord]

so it can go stupid on like

Ring Hong Lu

[atomic steeple]

What do you guys say? The two charge slots will be kodya and warp don

[eternal berry]

Grey Goat+Bridle carries me hard in max adversity

[crimson spindle]

bridle can be skipped if you just kill hard enough

I didn't take it last run because, again, ringlu was shitting out 15k damage a turn

I don't need more HP if they're fuckin' dead

[bronze zephyr]

imo KK Duo

[crimson spindle]

But for slower teams bridle is really essential

[gleaming frost]

laughs in sharp needle Arcana Slave privilege

[cosmic gorge]

I need the LeTranger coat form my bleed team

I didnt expect to have so much aoe

But it migjt be too late to get it at floor 9

[atomic steeple]

@glad fable
So, thinking further on my experience of bleed egos
Contempt awe is a good aoe, and source of sin resources. Shooting one somewhat early can be good. If you can weather the overclock, it has good count
Mircalla meur. I don't use it often ever since I got the other egos, but it's good. It likes being used when you have a good stack built. Based on lust res, it activates bleed extra times.
Mircalla don. So, it likes a good stack and a high amount of consumed bloodfeast for full power. It's an ego you activate late into the fight. Though getting max value can be hard, as that would be a lot of eaten bloodfeast

[main scaffold]

📝 👀

What about for ring teams?

[stoic fjord]

KJH are you fucking with me rn

[main scaffold]

Hope you like boss rush packs

[crimson spindle]

Don't Pick the Crab Pack

[stoic fjord]

KJH went and said "no more easy packs. lock in. E.G.O spam and DIE"

[atomic steeple]

I haven't run ring teams
You'll probably still enjoy activating bleed extra times with mircalla meursault, specially with all the count you get
I guess contempt awe is good for ring? It's still an aoe or a count generator

[stoic fjord]

sinking support through E.G.O gifts now necessary for max adversity runs

[fickle crown]

Ngl I just wish MDE didn't HP bloat enemies so badly

[atomic steeple]

We ll, only 5 count

But it adds up

Plus overclock adds extra damage

While awakening distributes potency

[main scaffold]

Yeh, though mircalla does inflict bleed potency on your sinners with Rose Wedge (though it's only like 1 potency per hit)

Pandora(She/her)(aka WaxMask) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) I haven't run ring teams
You'll probably still enjoy activating bleed extra times with mircalla meur…

We assume the hex nail EGO are good?

[fickle crown]

Yea

[atomic steeple]

Ah these

I use hex nail rodya as a heal option

Besides that I haven't used hex nail egos much

Still, curse is an useful status

And the negative effects it generates probably fulfill the ring conditionals

[fickle crown]

It's a good count applier too

[main scaffold]

Hmm... just noticed the house of spiders Ring duo have envy S2s

[cosmic gorge]

yep

the charge sin

you love to see it

[main scaffold]

Ring middle team...

[cosmic gorge]

Riddle Team...

[atomic steeple]

Hex nail faust gives her a passive that buffs her based on negative effects on herself

[main scaffold]

...interesting

[cosmic gorge]

albina faust's uptie story is really pushing the Homunculus theory i feel

[atomic steeple]

Hex nail rodya has a passive that, when inflicting bleed, gives defense down and extra 2 potency

Plus enemies who hurt allies get curse

The heal on the ego activation, st ut4, gives extra heal if target has negative effects

Overclock gives offense up to allies, and inflicts 2 bleed count on enemies, plus 3 nails if second coin hits tails

If you activate hex nail and sanguine desire, both passives improve rodion's bleed infliction

[stoic fjord]

wait, they can have multiple E.G.O passives up at a time?

[atomic steeple]

yes

[quaint cliff]

-# @Minty_Chu

[atomic steeple]

Outis is judging but accepts your contribution if you make effort

Now, brief me on your capabilities.
'Command' and 'consultations'…? I… okay. I see. Still, contribute as much as you are able to the production of this work. We're doing a group project—I won't accept any freeloaders.

As a rule, one out of five participants in most group projects are unsalvageable scum who have nothing to contribute to the team effort.
Going by that rule, I bet this group has at least two or three such members.

[stoic fjord]

THREE THOUSAND???

give me a secret boss

[bronze zephyr]

furioso + needle and thread is so. juicy

[faint pivot]

I believe they're just different now?

[stoic fjord]

indeed

[faint pivot]

O o p s

That was yesterday

I'm sorry for the ping chief

I did not notice

[stoic fjord]

for all the issues I have with true limited

goddamn these arknights E.G.Os hit sometimes

[atomic steeple]

Hong lu needs a ring ego

[bronze zephyr]

gossypium hong lu 🙏

or faust

they both need bleed ego,

[atomic steeple]

Bleed ego that stacks negative effects

[fickle crown]

Yeahhh fuck him up Meursault

Bro did not stand a chance against John Firefist

Or Thumbsault

The burn team makes the world go round

[atomic steeple]

I had a good run today
My bleed team eviscerated him

[fickle crown]

This wasn't in the MD

I just did his regular dungeon

Because I had yet to complete the bokgak

Now I have so I can rest easy until next Wednesday

Also his ass was not surviving this round anyways

Even if Faust hadn't beaten him down, there's still the dark flame and burn stacks on him that would finish him off

Hohenheim can observe them all he wants while he burns to death

God Firefist is also just

Cracked

I love how John Generic Guy has one of the scariest fucking burn IDs known to man

[faint pivot]

This needs to be preserved (canto 9 spoilers)

[fickle crown]

This does too

[faint pivot]

What

[faint pivot]

Imho tis be redundant cause this exists
https://youtube.com/shorts/TE1D0LC7PsA?si=r-H8woWZmg8FXJD9

[cosmic gorge]

damn i missed the limbus cooking tier list (i was sleeping)

[cosmic gorge]

redundant||eeeeh||

[faint pivot]

Don Quicks 😭

PuhTENcee

[faint pivot]

Same here

Poise becoming Poison 😭

Providing slipped into proving

Outis as Otis 😭

Sheut as Shatter

I can't

Boss did you not run this through a 2nd person

The editing is nice and all but jeez pal

[faint pivot]

What an incredible short thank you for sharing

[vagrant dove]

very important tier list

[minor gust]

so is lunar a random drop now??

[faint pivot]

It's always been one

You could've always gotten it as those, as a pack reward, etc..

Here's one

I seemingly forgot a screenie but another lmao

Pretty kino find here

[fickle crown]

Actual madman...

https://youtu.be/1eSAC6D9T5I?si=r3mIp5AHRmCOPJFs

[cosmic gorge]

beesault
fellsang
pleaase for fucks sake slot in your lust skills i am trying to win this Rienmatch okay

entangled threads is a team effort please give me your orange skills i need to res

[stoic fjord]

Okay so

Right now

With everything

[ebon forge]

a

[stoic fjord]

I'm expecting Valencina Rodion to surpass Caposault in terms of damage and genersl strength

And for Luciocliff, I think, to synergize a bit and also probably be between Thumbclair and caoosault

[ebon forge]

you act like she wouldnt dominate caposaul-

[minor gust]

dammit i got cavernous wailing instead of the new id

ah well

at least thats one ego list for rolling

[stoic fjord]

HUHHHH???

[fickle crown]

Personally, I feel like Rodincina will be more of a duelist than a room clearer like Meursault

[ebon forge]

in terms of clashes, p e r- jk

i aint doing that

[stoic fjord]

I also expect her to become the new queen of solos, either being on par with or usurping Molar Ish because of that fucked up evade

[stoic fjord]

You're implying that I've ever seen him use a skill with the added attack weight

It's a myth

No combat has ever lasted long enough for it to be relevant

[fickle crown]

In a solo, yes

He just

Ends the entire fight when he does that

[stoic fjord]

Oh right you're the solo person

[fickle crown]

Especially if it was his S3

[stoic fjord]

Mb gang I forgot

[fickle crown]

Also he just has different strengths in general

[stoic fjord]

But yeah this is true

Not a single attack from her has attack weight

[fickle crown]

I don't think they're really even comparable, because Rodincina is probably gonna be made out of paper if she has an auto evade

[stoic fjord]

Either way they're gonna put us up to 4 Thumb IDs

[fickle crown]

Caposault's gimmick is that he just doesn't give a fuck when he's staggered

[stoic fjord]

And then we'll only need 1 more to run double status in MD without tarnishing the Thumb with those of inferior groups such as fixer offices or corps

[tiny cave]

it takes him a long time to get to +atk weight

normal encounters don't last long enough and neither do md

usually get it in railway or solo

same w/ furioso though lol

[stoic fjord]

I'm assuming it'll be conditional for it to be an automatic evade, personally. I think she'll have to ramp up for the eye rather than starting with stacks

[stoic fjord]

See

Furioso I've managed to get twice in a single combat

[tiny cave]

it's the exact same amount of time to get to atk weight stpfob as it is to get to furioso 1

[stoic fjord]

I have never gotten even one attack weight increase on Caposault

[tiny cave]

counter s2 s2 s1 s3 = 5 turns

[stoic fjord]

...

I forgot that you can just

[tiny cave]

whereas
evade s3 s2 s1 furioso = 5 turns

[stoic fjord]

Put him into his second mode

I've been using his normal ammo completely

[tiny cave]

ah yeah then it'll take forever

he only spends 10 bullets per rotation so it needs 2 full rotations to get through 20 bullets normally

[stoic fjord]

I can't wait to try and run the 5 nursefather team and have it be utter fucking dogwater in MD because I can't get a single status online

[main scaffold]

I was about to ask how good she'd have to be to be worth running over Rosespanner's amazing EGO resource generation, but apparently Valencina has pride and gloom skills so she'll almost certainly be better than Rosespanner

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) I'm expecting Valencina Rodion to surpass Caposault in terms of damage and genersl strength

[lean fjord]

if Ryoshu seasonal is also gonna be Burn, that might be one possible intersection

[tiny cave]

poise prolly

[lean fjord]

still tricky though

I have some feeling they'll try and make it functional though

[tiny cave]

valencina almost confirmed to be poise burn tremor by the ego gift
rien is poise
matthias will prob be bleed burn
callisto is bleed charge
ryo will probably be poise burn sink based on her ego?

so you have
3 poise, 3 burn

[lean fjord]

I assume she will be all of them, based on which Nursefathers are present

[tiny cave]

add captain ish or kira ish and noodle don and you have 5 poise 5 burn

[stoic fjord]

Kira ish does not have poise

[tiny cave]

oops

[stoic fjord]

Also I meant only those five

[tiny cave]

just captain

[stoic fjord]

Like, a themed run

Yet again

[tiny cave]

captain ish is the pequod nursefather 😎

[stoic fjord]

Killing you with a rock

[tiny cave]

fortunately i have paper armor which beats your rock

[stoic fjord]

Wrong. Voodoo doll girl. Paper loses to rock. You die instantly.

[faint pivot]

D i s p o s a l

Oh mb

That's not AoE I was thinking of something else

[stoic fjord]

I'm 99% sure she has no attack weight

[faint pivot]

I checked, she has none

[tiny cave]

we don't need atk weight where we're going

plus her whole style is based around 1 on 1 dueling

would be weird if she had atk weight

[faint pivot]

Lucio, being forced to said use dueling style on 3 other people:

[tiny cave]

should have just split it into 3 1v1s

[faint pivot]

Very funky btw how Kiramael does slash damage with her swords

Is this another Base Faust situation

Or Lei Sault situation rather?

[cosmic gorge]

U mean blunt

Hit you with the six seven brainrot zaza

[keen palm]

She deals both

[cosmic gorge]

Oh isee

[keen palm]

Because technically the entire first part of Violet Break Slam is her just

beating the dude up

[faint pivot]

Pondering what other team to play next

Dost thou remember

[stoic fjord]

Hanafuda Ishmael
Faint Aroma Ryoshu - 1
Udjat Outis - 2
Caposault - 3
Soldatoclair - 4
Solemn Lament Yi Sang - 5
Another sinking ID

Supports:
LCCB Ish - 6
FS Heath - 7
FS Hong Lu - 8

Iirc if you want certain units there are certain substitutions you can make

[faint pivot]

Go on

[stoic fjord]

Like you can have Twinhook Gregor or smth

But this is the base setup I remember

[stoic fjord]

If you want like, Wild Hunt as your extra sinking

[faint pivot]

Humu I see

Damn shame we don't have Burnking yet

[stoic fjord]

Wait

Wait I'm stupid

[faint pivot]

?

[stoic fjord]

You can't have LCCB Ishmael

You need other ishmael

[faint pivot]

Ah right cause Hanafish

[stoic fjord]

Uhhhhhh

Right the first guy that comes to mind is twinhook Gregor there's probably soneone else who can do it though

[faint pivot]

Btw Madam do you happen to have an EGO gift guide on-hand?

[stoic fjord]

No but I basically have that shit memorized at this point from experience

What do you need

[faint pivot]

I've no idea yet lmao

Well

[split beacon]

I do

[faint pivot]

Oh fire send it here por favor

[split beacon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3115645873

I used to have the MDE build strategy guide but I lost that shit!

[faint pivot]

Got some suggestions for a Simor team?

[faint pivot]

I have one I think, will dig it up after lunch

[stoic fjord]

Sinking tremor?

Okay so...

[faint pivot]

Yep

[stoic fjord]

I would say you probably want to go through both TKT packs, just to make sure you don't miss any of the gifts that are good and important

Sinking has a new T4 from Sinking Deluge and Sunk Gloom that works pretty well, major breakpoint I think you can hit is 6, iirc it's solid

You'll want to hit up the uhhhh

I forget but it's the Canto 6 pack with it's own T4 Sinking gift

To be completely honest with you I'm like 99% sure Sinking and Tremor both just don't have enough pack specific gifts for this team specifically to care too much about the nitty gritty of routing

[faint pivot]

xy Simor Desperado
xy FAshu 1
xy Udjatis 2
xy Hanafish
x SL Sang 3
x Kodya
y Caposault 4
y Regret Faust
Reinforcements
1 FS Hong 5
2 FS Heath 6
3 Thumbclair 7
4 Hookgor 8
5 Soradon?

Shit wait this team has no green

[stoic fjord]

Seems fairly reasonable

[stoic fjord]

...why do you need green again?

[faint pivot]

I like having it around for Rep Emitter

But then again, EGO gifts

So it'll probs be fine

[lean fjord]

With gifts you should be good on resources by the time it matters

Oracle, Coffee and Crane, Child in Flask, etc

[faint pivot]

What's the minimum adversity for the extra MD XP again?

[lean fjord]

32 or so IIRC

[faint pivot]

Oh, that sounds like it increased

Noted noted