#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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atomic steeple
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But I am bad at using them

lean fjord
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There's some great cards in them

atomic steeple
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They lose a lot

lean fjord
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For Smoke you generally wanna run a mix of cards

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You can do a Singleton with the good Smoke cards from CoG and Yae

atomic steeple
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I should probably get a good evade on hod, to power it up and get stagger restore
I am definitely getting stsggered a lot

lean fjord
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One Smoke build is also enough, you don't need more on a team

atomic steeple
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I am running yujin hod, and a nugget as dong wan. The latter has a nice protection and stagger protection passive

faint pivot
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Yujin's a bit dubious by SotC

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Especially because of her broken speed die

lean fjord
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Yujin is good, but you gotta watch out because the broken die does become a liability

atomic steeple
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Yeah

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I wanna replace with purple tear when I get her

lean fjord
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What Star receptions have you beaten already?

atomic steeple
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First row, proxies, gebura, r corp 1

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The first row general receptions, though I think I didn't finish udjats, just killed a few

lean fjord
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Kalo is good, Esther also pretty good to use

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You got Red Mist, so that already does a bunch

stoic fjord
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It's really funny to me that if Yujin was fully rested, she would have more than double the health of any of the SotC keypages and start with the most possible die at 3

lean fjord
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Yep

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Also +4 power

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
stoic fjord
atomic steeple
lean fjord
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I do hope we see Yujin in Limbus at some point

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And she's just absolutely cracked from not being close to collapsing

stoic fjord
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She got 8 hours of sleep last night

atomic steeple
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Shi is also useful to sacrifice two nuggets for kizuna, remembrance and fervor

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
atomic steeple
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Cruelty is a real fun card

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I am running it with disgorge innards

atomic steeple
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Really my decks are dedicated to bleed, but I'll have to make space for singleton

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On hod

lean fjord
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Though is Will of the City from Proxies or Yan?

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I forget

lean fjord
atomic steeple
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Think I'll sacrifice two nugget on liu section, once I reach second act
Let hod power up

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From kizuna remembrance

lean fjord
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Also you will want a good amount of passive power on builds by Star

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Fervor is an easy one

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And you also have a bazillion Liu pages to attribute

atomic steeple
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Once I deal with tiph abnos, I'll grab sayo and kim to put on hod, attributing sayo to hod herself

stoic fjord
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putting Sayo's +1 power on Kim is nice because it just makes him a slash monster

worthy haven
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so true

stoic fjord
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moreso than he already was

stoic fjord
worthy haven
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fair fair

atomic steeple
stoic fjord
lean fjord
ebon forge
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GOD DAMN

lean fjord
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You have access to better pages

ebon forge
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That’s honestly

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Perfect lmao

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Translators cooked with that translation

stoic fjord
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...

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maybe I should start a new game of Ruina

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just

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go through it all again

lean fjord
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I've been considering playing Ruina for a group Archipelago, but also Ruina randomizer sounds like pain lmao

stoic fjord
lean fjord
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Especially when I can't use other mods probably, so can't use NoGrind possibly

dusty sigil
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Randomizer seems so fucked with how backloaded Ruina is

stoic fjord
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my heishou gun team begins

dusty sigil
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You’re way more likely to get a STOC enemy then even an urban nightmare one

lean fjord
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Well it's presumably mostly fine, since you're more likely to get good cards early

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I'd assume it randos page acquisition, not the receptions

atomic steeple
dusty sigil
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True

stoic fjord
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oh if it's card acquisition then

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yeah it's whatever

dusty sigil
lean fjord
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I have not actually looked closely at how it works yet, just know its on the list

stoic fjord
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technically possible for you to get a full Brace Up Clone Gashes deck from your first burn

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if that's the case

atomic steeple
lean fjord
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Yeah late game you mostly just run piles of goodstuff in Ruina

atomic steeple
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"I'm stuff"
-Kim

lean fjord
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Late game Ruina is very much a game of having bigger numbers

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That's why way more gimmicks and power null start showing up

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Because in a straight clash you can mostly just win

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
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Anyway, my gameplan for hod now is running a strong clasher deck that also applies bleed to use cruelty, disgorge innards and sanguine desire
Gonna use the index chain to weaken enemies

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So try to keep enemy weak, and spot opportunities to exploit bleed

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Oh, mirae life insurance looks cool

stoic fjord
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I don't think I ever used them, unfortunately

lean fjord
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They have a few neat additions for discard synergy

atomic steeple
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Good bleed stuff, but discard

lean fjord
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Which works well on Thumb, since they discard ammo

atomic steeple
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I love disgorge innards

stoic fjord
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@ebon forge can you confirm

ebon forge
stoic fjord
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thank you carmen

cloud wadi
tired canyon
cloud wadi
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Turn everyone into a furry

stoic fjord
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Maybe if the community begs enough we can get sinnerling facades

ebon forge
tired canyon
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bad luck has taught me

the ||sinnerlings|| are immortal

glad fable
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Yep!

lean fjord
tired canyon
gentle mulch
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Sancho's favorite activity: explode into gore

tired canyon
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she likes it so much she even helps other people engage in it

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aint that right

casseti

stoic fjord
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no matter how long it takes

gentle mulch
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also no wonder the sinners gotta protect dante if they're in melee range casting clock magic all the time

gentle mulch
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fr

stoic fjord
keen palm
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I think canonically people are constantly trying to kill Dante

tired canyon
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i

i guess pigritia is a melee spell

gentle mulch
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like wtf GET BACK

lean fjord
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clock no jutsu

keen palm
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I think Dante is dodging while casting it

signal kindle
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Dantehh why are you battling a pinky dantehh your not a revivable sinner dantehh

keen palm
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Dante is actually a Sinner

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They're Sinner #10

signal kindle
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Oh

keen palm
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there you go

signal kindle
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I spent to long staring at their luscious clock face

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Sos gang

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I’m just larp as a Pmoon fan

keen palm
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They

split beacon
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2x combo

tired canyon
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3주년 기념 애니메이션 / 3周年記念アニメ / 3rd Anniversary Animation

감독·콘티·연출 | 김준우
캐릭터 디자인·작화감독 | Moaang
원화 | 김동민, 김범수, Amalge, Anthony Nguyen, chico, Chris, Guhki, mokmok
제 2원화 | 노설화, SooBung, yohan, HAYU
동화 | DR MOVIE, Myukin
컬러스크립트 | WOOP
...

▶ Play video
keen palm
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They're still casting it when it cuts off from them so

signal kindle
split beacon
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I choose to believe that Dante's shadow wizard money gang shit is the physical process of using Malkuth to direct the entire gang remotely

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and that you have to do wacky orchestra conductor motions to perform Malkuth

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it's the explanation that feels the most coherent in that it makes Dante a sitting duck target because they're too busy doing conducting shit and have to order the Sinners to cover them from ||Araya|| while they cook in two other places at the same time

tired canyon
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We get to see Dante start floating as a clock materializes under their feet when they cast

I guess the spells are like

An aoe around them

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So they have to be close enough so it covers the sinners

gentle mulch
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oh yeah

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inn tkt

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they're charged a big fine due to a time distortion in the area

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because they used a durante power

gentle mulch
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wehhhhhh

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i need the ring duo dos

stoic fjord
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I wish I had tremor sinking

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faint aroma ryoshu... why have you abandoned me so...

gentle mulch
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doesss

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magic bullet count as a Unique Ammo ID?

gentle mulch
stoic fjord
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Okay I have a fire idea for a new MDE boss

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Yknow how we got kkomi and vergilius as an MDE boss?

Sinnerlings battle as an MDE boss

All 12 of them in their classes as waves

lean fjord
gentle mulch
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does she count for Desperado

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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okay

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i can skip thumbclair and swap woutis for mboutis

stoic fjord
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When Valencina Rodion and Lucio Heathcliff drop we will surely run the burnmor desperado

gentle mulch
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nevermind i still have to get thumbclair for the thumb quad

gentle mulch
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I can't fucking wait for the new LCD intervallo

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I'm so fucking hype for Kim to return

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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With Honglisto coming out people are talking about Callisto again and I feel like people kinda, don’t get him. Most namely that Callisto isn’t really a bad artist persay, it’s that he’s a stagnant artist.

Callisto was a maestro and did earn his rank, his work is extremely technically impressive and he’s very willing to learn other styles (as seen by his education of Ryoshu being very all encompassing).

However corporism became seen as outdated by the ring, and Callisto as dedicated to it also was seen as outdated. So he was made nursefather and basically bared from seeking out new inspiration or emotions to drive his work, creating that technically impressive but uninspired gallery Hohenheim talks about.

When Hohenheim does talk to him and does offer him genuine critique he is elated since that’s something he hasn’t gotten in decades. Someone who engages with his art not as something tacky and outdated but as something he’s actively trying to still make.

gentle mulch
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yeah i lowk distorted and cut all against my path thanks for helping me out I'm gonna stay relevant all the way to SotC level lol

lean fjord
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and there's a bunch of Burnmor gifts in the Textbook pack

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plus getting full benefit from Hei Leng gift if you encounter him

gentle mulch
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ngl

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you should be able to secret boss search with starlight

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
stoic fjord
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I remember something about the blade lineage using like. Completely plain swords

gentle mulch
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not like anything special or shitty but like

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A Sword

stoic fjord
keen palm
stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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YMF diff

stoic fjord
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In terms of actual like

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Make, not just aesthetics

gentle mulch
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i would presume everything is enhanced in some fashion, but not like billionfold forged

lean fjord
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IIRC they say Aeng Du's sword is basically not even really workshop grade

stoic fjord
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Ahhh yeah that's what it was

atomic steeple
stoic fjord
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I wonder if Kim's is better than that

lean fjord
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he might have a slightly better one

dusty sigil
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Wasn’t that Ryoshu just being an asshole though?

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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I would assume Kim isn't the kind to leave the absolute best for himself only

lean fjord
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but I have a feeling the Blade Lineage doesn't put much emphasis on their equipment

gentle mulch
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and just gives everyone the best they can afford and then Skill Diff the rest

lean fjord
gentle mulch
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yeahh

lean fjord
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since he used to be kinda important

vagrant dove
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I really want to know about S-Corp

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It sounds horrid (neofeudalist)

stoic fjord
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I think regardless his strength largely comes from technique

glad fable
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This is reminding us that we need to get around to building blade lineage (even if they’ve probably been powercreeped by now)

split beacon
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Ryoshu calls the Blade Lineage’s swords trash but she has a warped perspective

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That being said, I think Dante’s Notes points out that the Blade Lineage have wack ass gear and as a result are a lot more liable to get injured/scarred compared to the Kurokumo Clan

keen palm
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They can also be trash because their a poor ass syndicate

split beacon
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Oh also Aeng-Du mentions she has no prior experience with fancy Workshop weapons but can hold a sword probably when she’s asking Erza for a weapon

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And immediately gets gimmicked

gentle mulch
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NNNNNNNNEVER LET GO OF THE SWOR--AUUUUUUGHHHHHH PIECE OF SHIT

stoic fjord
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Fullstop Hong Lu facaded over hong lord is so fucking funny for lonesome stand

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bro genuinely just loops the first part of the jump before calling sniper support

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bro you have 3 coins on your S3 why are you doing this 😭

gentle mulch
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he's practicing

atomic steeple
eternal gull
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||hang on is Sanson a first kindred or is vergilius a first kindred?||

keen palm
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The former, we don't know

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The latter, no

atomic steeple
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||Verg has eyes of a first kindred||

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Kakashi style

gentle mulch
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verg just has the eyes

eternal gull
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ohh I see

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im going to cry

keen palm
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lmao that's new

eternal gull
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please please please dont question the team comp if you do ill cry

keen palm
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Don's Fucking Gone

gentle mulch
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GET READY TO CRY

keen palm
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Where is a SINGLE HEISHOU

keen palm
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WITH LORD HONG

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oh, heath

gentle mulch
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IT'S CRY CLUES

eternal gull
keen palm
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okay nvm u good

eternal gull
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PLEASE

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I WAS A SEASON LATE

keen palm
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wait

eternal gull
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I ONLY HAVE 1 HEISHOU

keen palm
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LEVEL 44

eternal gull
eternal gull
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I WASNT EXPECTING TO LOSE ONE OF MY LV50's

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is it limbover for me

gentle mulch
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you have rien sang you'll be fine

eternal gull
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yeah

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riensang solo's

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fr

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if I survive long enough for 9 proc I win

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Kodion, Riensang and Hongler can hold the line

eternal gull
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😭

eternal gull
stoic fjord
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Wait so

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Not even at the major bosses yet?

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In the dungeon?

eternal gull
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oh im in it

stoic fjord
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Oh I know i mean like

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You're not deep into it yet? I think, I remember the last few bosses not having anything in-between

eternal gull
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first combat 😭

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to add more context

gentle mulch
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just remember

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riensang has a lotttaaa coins

stoic fjord
eternal gull
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the clash was the first bad stage
it was the lv44 id

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I just switched who he clashed against and it was fine

stoic fjord
eternal gull
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yeye he's my ticket focus rn

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feeding my cock(rel)

eternal gull
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okay yeah it really is getting bad

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riensang is getting to the stage he has indulgence in the prescripts

main scaffoldBOT
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To be fair, leveling IDs is the worst part of limbus

Voy the Nelson Boy ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) # LEVEL 44

eternal gull
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fucking

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farming out MD

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could show a fucking bloodfiend how to suffer

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holy fuck

stoic fjord
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I personally don't mind MD

eternal gull
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any other situation I woudlnt but like

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I am otherwise in a pretty busy period of life

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but I want to play some limbus

stoic fjord
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Ah fair

eternal gull
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this event has probably allowed me to play canto 7 in the first place

gentle mulch
faint pivot
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FACK

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I FELL ASLEEP DOING MY WEEKLY MD YESTERDAY

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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"Wow I had a really good sleep, odd since I slept at 12 but I'm taking those"

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"Wait, why's my laptop open & right next to me..."

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Wab

stoic fjord
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udjat outis solo attempt 2

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i know for I'm still gonna get rolled by the bugs but we can figure something out when we get there

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whether that is illegitimizing this by adding another ID to the field just for that fight

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or locking the fuck in

tired canyon
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did faust post heathcliff singing umapyoi here before

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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Huh, I just saw someone on Twitter point something out

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Will Hong Lu’s Jade eye count as recording in N Corp?

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Because that’s a taboo

keen palm
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We've talked about this

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most likely not as it's a livestream, not a recording

dusty sigil
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Huh yah

cosmic gorge
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Oh streamers are allowed in ncorp

keen palm
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Assumedly

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We don't know canonically

atomic steeple
atomic steeple
faint pivot
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Wonder how the sinnerlings were grouped

cosmic gorge
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Rodya, greg, salt and outis

Heath, ishm, yisang and sinclair

Don, fau, hongler and ryo

main scaffoldBOT
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...why LCE Faust?

tired canyon
main scaffoldBOT
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(Also that is some really good speed rng on turn two, damn)

faint pivot
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Special in their own ways

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Rodya, Gregor, Meursault, and Outis seem to be clinging to, or at least haunted by, their pasts

atomic steeple
faint pivot
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Heath, Ishmael, Yi Sang, and Sinclair all seem to be the obsessive types?

tired canyon
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i was thinking of their animals but

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i cant come up with anyhting

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FAUST

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GOD DAMMIT

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NOT I

atomic steeple
cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
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Bloisemor when

cosmic gorge
main scaffoldBOT
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We’re gonna have to kill you for this, sorry about that

Silent and Refined Faust ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) NOT I

cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
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What dual status has the most IDs

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Rupoise? Bloise? Rupcharge?

faint pivot
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Bloise

stoic fjord
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Yeah I figured

atomic steeple
faint pivot
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Cheery Chickens for Yi Sang's

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Early Elephants for Paus'

cosmic gorge
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Hmmm

atomic steeple
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Hey
Isn't poultry apocalypse
A bird apocalypse?

cosmic gorge
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Paus' group is special bc theyre not landbound birds

faint pivot
cosmic gorge
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Sangs group has two birds and two angry chickens fighting each other

faint pivot
cosmic gorge
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Cant think much about penguins

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Aside from the cold (rodya)

faint pivot
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Meursault in his distance, Gregor in his behavior and hidden ruthlessness, Outis in being devoid of her warmth (her family)

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They also tend to waddle around their issues, no?

cosmic gorge
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Nice

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Are they sinkers

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Do they sink

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In the cold water

faint pivot
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Penguins are great swimmers

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They're also accustomed to the cold

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If anything they wouldn't be here if they sank

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So I'd say another similarity is that they've all survived running from their pasts

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They're the only ones who were at a risk of dying in their backstories, afaik

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N Corp is ruthless as all hell, Rodya is one of the few survivors of the Middle attack, and I need not explain the Smoke War

stoic fjord
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limbus the only game to have us overanalyze the animals the kindergarten groups are named after in the april fool's event

faint pivot
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That's only because PMoon doesn't give LobCorp or Ruina april fool's updates :p

cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
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toiling away to allow the average reading comprehension of the fandom to stay decent despite everything else

faint pivot
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Technically if they're not here to see our efforts the average reading comprehension of the fandom stays the same

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Therefore we're only doing this for our own E.G.O.s :p

stoic fjord
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wait

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I just realized

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with my MDE Udjat Outis solo

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I might genuinely run out of ammo

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at 4 ammo per S3

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and replacing all her skills with S3s

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should I keep some of her other skills?

main scaffoldBOT
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So I know this is usually a horrible thing to say, but I think y’all might be overthinking what they put into a limited time joke event

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) limbus the only game to have us overanalyze the animals the kindergarten groups are named after in t…

stoic fjord
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we have to consider every possibility of team comp

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what symbolism the animals chosen hold

main scaffoldBOT
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PlantGun

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) So I know this is usually a horrible thing to say, but I think y’all might be overthinking what th… 📎

atomic steeple
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I hope we get a district 23 cooks event or April fools

faint pivot
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The chickens all left something behind

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Moved on to greener pastures

stoic fjord
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nnnot entirely sure due to sinclair but I can sorta see it

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the other 2 groups I can see more but I'm struggling with the cheery chickies

atomic steeple
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Baby sinclair is already purging, one of his skills is named after that. They grow up so fast

faint pivot
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Left the world of the light

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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They wouldnt fight

Gojo would sew her some nice fancy clothes she'd feel comfy in compared to her Hana mandated catsuit and he'd be happy to give the Red Mist some comfy drip

wild mango
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The Art Gays are dropping at 11pm?

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est

cosmic gorge
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Yes
Uhh 11am where i am

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Also if you meant go jo then yeah Kali would win

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Madam I believe that is Vertical

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The idea that Kali would need horizontal for this is dubious to me, as backed up by how it's
go jo

keen palm
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Gojo and Kali wouldnt fight but they would argue

cosmic gorge
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Been a hot minute since i watched jayjay kay
What was go jo's driving philosophy again

keen palm
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He is the strongest and thats a lonely existence, so he wants to train a new generation that he can see as peers

cosmic gorge
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Now a talk between the two would be more interesting yeah

main scaffoldBOT
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I wonder if we should try out MDE50 this week
...though we have no idea what the strats for it are

faint pivot
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@stoic fjord MDE expert

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We seek thee wisdom

stoic fjord
# faint pivot <@909903609930604634> MDE expert

okay so it really depends on what you have, but ime:

  1. tremor is fucking stupid. the TKT watches genuinely just give you +4 coin power. take allegory. take molar outis. just take anyone with coins in abundance. I watched Wu Sang clash 60 off of tremor alone.
  2. Bloodfiend bleed team. There's so many gifts for them, and if you have all of them, and two other solid bleed units, you have a very strong team
  3. any poise dual status. 12 clash power makes anyone strong, honestly
  4. dual status in general is strong, especially poise or tremor

now then, with trials

  1. basically never take base, clash, or final power. maybe two in your entire run, max. take as few offense level ups as well, and if you have to, take brutality. brutality can be overcome with a tiny bit of savescumming, especially in packs against enemies with SP. besides, you'll get them earlier, so it won't be as hard anyways

...don't take brutality over like, 3 offense level, though. use your noggin.

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for gifts, you want to take like

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genuinely everything

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everything that decreases enemy clash or increases yours

warm scarabBOT
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Psst, Sophia (She/Her) | The Labrynth Princess (@glad fable), you have been pinged by @faint pivot.

stoic fjord
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even if you're running burn, you're taking the sinking gifts that you can, ime the main 3 are faded overcoat, midwinter, and broken compass

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you get enough sinking for these three in conjunction to work on basically any team

keen palm
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NEBULIZER AND CLEAR WATER

stoic fjord
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clear mirror calm water, of course

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yeah

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was getting there

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the poise gifts are overall good

keen palm
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I figured

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but I wanted to do a funny

main scaffoldBOT
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Wait, why is giving them coin power okay?

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) okay so it really depends on what you have, but ime:

  1. tremor is fucking stupid. the TKT watches ge…
stoic fjord
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you'll be nerfing their ability to actually roll heads

faint pivot
main scaffoldBOT
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Oh yeah

faint pivot
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You can skirt the coin power you give them with Sinking

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You can't run from Power Up

stoic fjord
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and if you're losing to minus coin enemies

  1. why did you take the pack this late into the game
  2. dead run. you fucked up earlier somehow.
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oh also

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for packs

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I find that Dawn of green WILL fuck your shit up

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no SP, lotsa enemies, high damage

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do not take impenetrable path. similar story, but now with MORE counters! and counters that reuse?

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just.

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don't take impenetrable path

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S.E.A C.R is often recommended as your last pack, and for fairly good reason

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they're squishy, they sometimes fight each other, so less clashes, and they're not too hard as enemies

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however

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if you do not have ready to go AoE

keen palm
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I love how Canto 5 enemies specifically will just fuck your shit up

stoic fjord
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you might be better off selecting Bridle of Infinity

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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luckily, trilichosm was released with this pass, so if you upgraded that, it's very good AoE

main scaffoldBOT
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So how good is poise/sinking with the index trio/the full stop duo/two sinking IDs?

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) okay so it really depends on what you have, but ime:

  1. tremor is fucking stupid. the TKT watches ge…
keen palm
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Very yeah

stoic fjord
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good clash power, fullstop pack is good for the entire team, you cover all your bases so you don't have dead packs

keen palm
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Dual-status is almost always good

stoic fjord
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inherent sinking benefit

main scaffoldBOT
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Well uh. Our best AOE EGO that we have upgraded is prooooooobably To Remain Oneself? And even then it's only threadspin 3

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) luckily, trilichosm was released with this pass, so if you upgraded that, it's very good AoE

stoic fjord
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Furioso AoE

main scaffoldBOT
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Also what should we do on turn 1 before all the ego gifts come online?

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
tired canyon
stoic fjord
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if you have evade IDs, follow good evade practices with them to potentially have them survive as well due to the fact that the clash bonuses don't take effect and ideally you've gotten just enough coins to have them at decently low SP

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if they don't, it's fine, as long as they dodged a decent amount of stuff

main scaffoldBOT
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Never knew there were so many good TKT gift- who let that Faust out of the meat grinder

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Evade practices?

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) if you have evade IDs, follow good evade practices with them to potentially have them survive as wel…

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
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as this will allow you to use the evade on all incoming skills, iirc

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so if it doesn't get broken, you keep evading

main scaffoldBOT
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I see, I see

stoic fjord
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oh also if you run bleed run bloodfiend bleed

main scaffoldBOT
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Maybe we should try out our tremor team then

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) TKT is actually fucking busted for tremor teams but if you're not running tremor you only need the b…

stoic fjord
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unless you're running trembleed in which case fuck if I know do whatever you'll win anyways with allegory and his 4 12 power coins of death

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and his "fuck you for surviving" skill (even more effective with RCC)

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note

main scaffoldBOT
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…oh yeah we also have crushbound past for AOE EGO, that’s good

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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RCC is mixed in performance

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single coin E.G.Os can often drain SP

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but it shouldn't matter if you get Faith

main scaffoldBOT
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RCC?

stoic fjord
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Faith and Fragment of Relationships are very good gifts that you're fairly likely to get by the end

stoic fjord
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reuse 1 coin skills if they didn't kill

main scaffoldBOT
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Oh the absurdly broken gift, how could I forget

stoic fjord
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uhhhhh what else

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uhhhhh

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right yeah with the E.G.O thing

gentle mulch
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whgggg one hourr

stoic fjord
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multi-status E.G.Os are good

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get the rocks for the statuses

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they increase base and coin power iirc

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or maybe just base power

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either way they do a lotta damage and increase their clash power

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this is another reason triliochosm is so strong

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oh also

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get lunar memory

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there's a reason there's an acheivement for doing MDE to floor 15 without it, regardless of adversities

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the faster you kill, the less time you have to get 5%ed

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or, with all 50 adversity, 15%ed.

main scaffoldBOT
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We’ve done MDE a couple times without it and it was agonizing, yeah

stoic fjord
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oh also

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you'll want to get the healing gifts

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Lithograph, Grey Coat, etc.

main scaffoldBOT
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Yeh

stoic fjord
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especially on certain teams

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oh also

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you want to get line 2, specifically for Bridle

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+50% HP for all IDs goes a long way

main scaffoldBOT
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Bridle of infinity o- ahh

stoic fjord
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it often makes them tanky enough to survive turn 1 or bad hits and then heal off of their insane damage

main scaffoldBOT
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We forget what our tremor team looks like but we’ll ask if it’s alright before we head in for our first attempt

stoic fjord
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for example, Udjat Outis and Rien Sang can often survive just enough to then heal back with Grey Coat

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with their gloom S3s

main scaffoldBOT
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...oh yeah, we should probably try to get everyone important to have as many S3s as possible right?

main scaffoldBOT
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Or well, do that even more than a usual MDE

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👀

stoic fjord
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but as a rule of thumb, yes

stoic fjord
main scaffoldBOT
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Probably don't want to have six S3s on full stop heath right

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) it actually kind of depends

stoic fjord
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uhhhh iirc that's actually fine

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though I do think there might be a gift or two that benefits him for having an envy skill so you might want to keep one around

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but generally it's fine to have all S3s on him and Fullstop Hong Lu

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I can't think of anyone on the poise sinking team this doesn't apply to

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Hanafuda Ishmael and the Index benefit by not wanting you to use worse skills and die

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everyone else benefits from good S3s

main scaffoldBOT
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Oh, we're probably going in with tremor and not poise sinking

stoic fjord
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I mean I can't think of anyone on the tremor team either rn but I don't really play tremor much

main scaffoldBOT
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🤷‍♀️

stoic fjord
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generally, try and get your strongest IDs to have all S3s if you can

main scaffoldBOT
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Depends on how much tremor the EGO gifts can apply on their own

stoic fjord
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and anyways you'll get enough tremor from the less upgraded or just E.G.O gift effects

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Downpour ramps up over time, and a lot of the gifts add tremor for everything

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you'll want to hit both TKT packs, ime, just to guarantee that you get all the gifts, because you'll want pretty much all of them

cosmic gorge
main scaffoldBOT
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We mean. We would buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) show the team?

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Maintenance

stoic fjord
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Oh right

main scaffoldBOT
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(Also we already mentioned using it 😅)

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) We forget what our tremor team looks like but we’ll ask if it’s alright before we head in for our fi…

gentle mulch
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ahhh

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1.14 gigs

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wtf are they putting in here

main scaffoldBOT
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Two IDs, facade stuff, MD QOL/Achievements/hidden packs

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Or at least that's what was announced to be in it

stoic fjord
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are we deadass

quaint cliff
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-# @senlidoesstuff

main scaffoldBOT
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wait what
you can pull event IDs from target extractions?

quaint cliff
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ya

main scaffoldBOT
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...I need to switch my homescreen off of Aroma Ryoshu, she keeps jumpscaring me

quaint cliff
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everything except pipi

stoic fjord
lean fjord
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it was during Spring Cultivation I think

stoic fjord
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ohhhhh ok

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wait I thought that was You Heishou Sinclair?

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was it both?

quaint cliff
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Rose I think your app’s broken

main scaffoldBOT
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Why?

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Oh, you mean pluralkit

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yeh

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) was it both?

faint pivot
main scaffoldBOT
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Anyway, this is what we got right now for tremor
(Ignore the three LCB IDs we just don't have any leveled IDs for them)

stoic fjord
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yeah, looks good enough, I think

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Tremor Sinking would be idea but also I don't assume Udjat Outis so yeah

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is it weird that I kind of want more Udjat IDs in the future

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Udjat Outis is really fun and I'd like for a more full team of them

ebon forge
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for MDE I'd recommend double status in general

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it's not exactly easy to get the necessary clash power without it

lean fjord
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you kinda need it for the extra power from gifts

stoic fjord
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Tremor is good, especially with multiple coins, but yeah double status is better

ebon forge
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not necessary, people solo all the time, but double status >

stoic fjord
#

I would personally still recommend Poise Sinking if you don't have one of the two tremor dual statuses

wild mango
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SECOND ten pull

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i got another 000 in it

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oh it was a dupe of her lol

ebon forge
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im just gonna shard, AGAIN lmao

stoic fjord
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I just sharded middle ishmael

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back to the MD mines

lean fjord
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I still have a couple hundred shard boxes lying around

main scaffoldBOT
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We got Hong Lu which is the one we didn't want
...but he seems like a pretty good faction leader so we might end up building The Ring/Bleed at some point

stoic fjord
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I know I seem like I'm lying when i say I genuinely enjoy MD but I do

lean fjord
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so I'll get them next week

stoic fjord
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I really do

stoic fjord
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also you can now run Bleed Charge in MD without the need for bleed charge rupture

wild mango
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ok ill take that

main scaffoldBOT
#

Poise sinking team

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Anyway, this is what we got right now for tremor
(Ignore the three LCB IDs we just don't have any l… 📎

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...I forget why Thumbsault is th- oh right his passive is good for the full stop duo

wild mango
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120 pulls total

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not too bad tbh

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i also got n don

main scaffoldBOT
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Actually wait, does thumbsault count as an ammo ID for that one EGO gift everyone is raving about?

gentle mulch
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200 pulls

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i forced fate by my hand to have these two

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anyways whats the read on this?

main scaffoldBOT
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Could be worse, she's apparently good in a Hemorrhage team

PunchBunny (He/They) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) i also got n don

main scaffoldBOT
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Can't tell without more context

ICEOUT Hardware (Ping 👍) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) anyways whats the read on this? 📎

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Neat!

Allie | Fox Knight (she/they) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) he does

stoic fjord
lean fjord
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any ID that has Ammo

stoic fjord
#

so iirc, Magic Bullet does as well

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funnily enough, Fell Bullet, one of the most gun Gun IDs, does not have ammo

main scaffoldBOT
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Guess we can replace 🎴 with LCCB Ishmael to get the conditional on that

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(Assuming Aroma counts as an ammo ID)

lean fjord
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she does

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you'll want at least 5 ammo ID ideally to get thee better threshold on Desperado

stoic fjord
#

yeah

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5 is where it gets worth it, imo

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so generally for desperado, I find that uhhhh

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poise teams, burn teams, and specifically tremor/sinking teams can meet it

gentle mulch
#

seems like wcorp employees can randomly stumble into corridors

stoic fjord
#

WAIT

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WAIT THAT MIGHT

main scaffoldBOT
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So this will fulfil it then, nice

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) so generally for desperado, I find that uhhhh

stoic fjord
#

THAT MIGHT EXPLAIN ||MURDER ON THE WARP EXPRESS||

main scaffoldBOT
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...okay I have to have a Gregor with a better passive than Si Branch

ebon forge
#

wait i forgot what corridor is

gentle mulch
#

ring tech that manipulates space to make a bunch of rooms

stoic fjord
ebon forge
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rightttttt

stoic fjord
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iirc both the bus and House of Spiders use it

gentle mulch
#

it very well may be it

stoic fjord
main scaffoldBOT
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...the answer yes and it's LCB Gregor
Or G Corp Manager Greg but we aren't uptieing him just for that

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) ...okay I have to have a Gregor with a better passive than Si Branch

stoic fjord
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G Corp greg is lowk busted in terms of his support passive

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genuinely might be one of the best in the entire game

main scaffoldBOT
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(Hmm... do we value having a good backup ID in RenClair or do we want the increased damage of 🪇...)

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(Probably the backup ID)

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...I probably don't need to gift search anything right?

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Eh probably not

gentle mulch
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fuuuuck

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
#

😭

gentle mulch
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oh wait

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nvm i have lca outis

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we're good again

stoic fjord
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lmao

main scaffoldBOT
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(Kodya is kind of annoying but as long as we remember to switch her to positive sanity later in the run it should be fine)

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) So this will fulfil it then, nice 📎

lean fjord
#

minus skills get some extra power now, that I think makes it easier for them to keep up

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but switching to positive also works, yeah

tired canyon
#

fuck team comps,i am just going to throw my numbers at you until you die

lean fjord
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many such cases

main scaffoldBOT
#

We appreciate the newly positioned giant red SKIP button

keen palm
tired canyon
stoic fjord
tired canyon
#

why are these two ego gifts

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the same thing

stoic fjord
#

they're slightly different

main scaffoldBOT
#

The sprites are very slightly different
The tier 2 one is spikier

gentle mulch
#

wow rabbit heath can just do that

stoic fjord
#

also different tuning sections

stoic fjord
main scaffoldBOT
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(Which you'd think would make it the tier 3 instead but meh)

gentle mulch
tiny cave
#

lccb ish with 5 fragile: am i a joke to you

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

yes you have no clash power and zero speed

tiny cave
stoic fjord
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vs. heathcliff who gains haste and has some speed conditionals

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and is thus incentivized to go fast

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vs. ishmael who cannot at all

main scaffoldBOT
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Bind doesn't fix everyone else being faster than her 😔

Gnocchian with Meatballs ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) binds issue

tiny cave
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just roll better 😎

tiny cave
#

you overclock binds to set everyone else to speed 1

main scaffoldBOT
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Oh that binds

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Not Bind

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But also no she is not a joke too us but it's not because of her fragile

gentle mulch
#

i guess to be fair

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she is on my team rn

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just not fielded

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ammo keyword for desperado 👅

keen palm
#

:)

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first 10 pull babyyy

gentle mulch
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ohh nice

#

it/its Faust

keen palm
#

I'll probably shard Faust

#

The ONLY thing

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I am wondering

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IS Faust good enough to unbench Gripfaust

gentle mulch
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she completes my triple status team so

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good enough for me

tiny cave
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idk how good albina faust is on field tho

stoic fjord
#

From what I read of her kit, she's very good, especially alongside Callisto Lu

tiny cave
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does she replace 7 faust as a facade

main scaffoldBOT
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She's Albina so yes

bronze zephyr
#

chat pinky sinclair or index faust for my poise team

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i have Riensang and Index Don

tiny cave
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uhh

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pinkclair probably

stoic fjord
tiny cave
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tho you need a faust id for thora

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so if you don't have any faust probably index faust

bronze zephyr
#

i dont have thora lol

main scaffoldBOT
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Faust poise IDs are forever cursed to be kind of mid 😔

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Index faust is lowk kind of mid, especially compared to pinkyclair from what I've seen

stoic fjord
#

Oh yeah thora

stoic fjord
tiny cave
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and top tier facade

main scaffoldBOT
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Consider: robot girl

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I rest my case

tiny cave
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consider: glasses

main scaffoldBOT
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(Actually wait, which Albina Faust sprites get projected?)

tiny cave
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i think its just the iron maiden version but not sure

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facades usually don't transform

main scaffoldBOT
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Dang, that makes the choice harder

stoic fjord
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I need to see Dawnclair E.G.O use Bloodflame Massacre

tiny cave
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index don using arcana beats

stoic fjord
#

WAIT

#

CALLISTO HONG LU VOICELINE CONFIRMS RODION VALENCINA

main scaffoldBOT
#

Yeah that makes sense

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...wait I sharded rosespanner like last week

#

dang

stoic fjord
#

Which

#

We know which nursefather has a drinking problem!!!

#

Our favorite washed up smoke war vet who was removed from the sottocapo position in a record three days!!!

tiny cave
#

i refuse to yield to rodigor shippers

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its gonna be heathlucio

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no way they'd give gregor 3 ids within like 2 months of each other

main scaffoldBOT
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Why would we want Gregor to be Lucio if we ship them? That would be odd

ebon forge
#

@stoic fjord LETS FUYCKING GO

stoic fjord
ebon forge
#

wait LMAO

stoic fjord
#

🍾

ebon forge
#

bruh this is really the mommy family LOL

stoic fjord
#

🥳 🎊 🎉

tiny cave
ebon forge
#

Outis Matthias, Rodion Valencina

gentle mulch
#

GRAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

#

MOMMY SWEEP

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
ebon forge
#

so thats thumb and middle

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and index is rien sang

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ring is callisto

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and then pinky is... Ryoshu?

stoic fjord
#

Multiple of my friends have called callisto Hong lu a dilf

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
tiny cave
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we're in kim jihoons dilfbus company

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got albinafaust from the s7 guarantee ticket from md

minor gust
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this game is fucking with me istg

#

why am i getting grwg imn the current nbanner now??

stoic fjord
#

From what I'm seeing on reddit

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Ring Faust and Ring Yi Sang are like

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Hong Lord + Maost tier

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This truly is the season of "fuck status synergies we're just killing you"

minor gust
#

like?

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this is a gacha curse i have

#

same asumamsume

#

i roll for current banner

#

i get previous banner feature

ebon forge
minor gust
#

nbut does aedd gregorwork on charge teams?

#

i have like all of w corpids

faint pivot
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His s3-2 is practically free

#

And accelerated Charge

#

Enough said

minor gust
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who should i replace

#

my main teams are now heishou, sinking and now charge in terms of ids i have

faint pivot
#

What's your deployment order just incase

minor gust
#

havent dome yet

#

what would you recommend

faint pivot
#
  1. Shogor
  2. Weath
  3. WSang
  4. Rishmael
  5. Wshu
  6. Won
  7. Hongler if you want a tank, Fau if you want her EGO
stoic fjord
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Shogor?

faint pivot
#

Shock Centipede / AEDD Gregor

stoic fjord
#

Ohhhh

main scaffoldBOT
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HoenGreg as the first ID?

faint pivot
#

Maybe swap WSang and Rishmael in the order actually

wild mango
#

CALLISTO LU LITERALLY DUNKS ON PEOPLE

minor gust
#

rishmael gives me an headache

faint pivot
#

Ah sure

stoic fjord
#

R Rodion has friendly fire still iirc

faint pivot
#

I thought you didn't want to use her cause she's at level 1

wild mango
#

Hong lu fuckin ballin

stoic fjord
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I would drop R Corp to double slot Gregor

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He's lowk cracked

faint pivot
main scaffoldBOT
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I thought his charge support was for earlier deployed IDs?

stoic fjord
#

I ran the rental team and while not a perfect metric bro genuinely runs laps around a lot of the older IDs in terms of damage

faint pivot
stoic fjord
split beacon
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support mode LCE Greg is wild too

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you can have him permanently gas up an ID with a skill 2 spender

wild mango
#

Bro literally hits the

faint pivot
wild mango
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With his skill 3

main scaffoldBOT
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Oh, okay

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) No, you're having others give him charge support

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

What are they feeding these researchers 😭

keen palm
#

Man

#

They should un nerf Lei Heng

stoic fjord
#

Yeah, he feels a lot less imposing and such

main scaffoldBOT
#

Bug juice apparently

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) What are they feeding these researchers 😭

stoic fjord
main scaffoldBOT
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...you know, we're realizing that Sinking/Poise is really bad at doing +3 pride res

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(And even pure poise is starting to have trouble with it with how powerful the index trio are)

stoic fjord
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I'm gonna try a Fell Bullet MDE when I get back on my PC I think

main scaffoldBOT
#

That's a thing?

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...well fuck

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) okay so it really depends on what you have, but ime:

  1. tremor is fucking stupid. the TKT watches ge…
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Fuck it, it's probably worth it

lean fjord
bronze zephyr
#

Hrm what’s the best poise team

tiny cave
#

for md or railway/story

bronze zephyr
#

Uuh story

tiny cave
#

i assume its
triple index
daiyu ryo (you can also run old lady ryo tbh the index ids will activate her)
full stop duo
+1

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def need faust ryo for thora a and thora b

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i guess your +1 is just to smooth out sin affinities for thora

main scaffoldBOT
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I think butler Ryoshu might be better for story, Daiyu Ryoshu doesn't have a ton of poise gain outside of her S3 and stance

bronze zephyr
#

My current poise team is

Full-Stop Hong Lu
Full-Stop Heathcliff
Index Yi Sang
Index Don
Pinky Sinclair
Cinq Meursault
Butler Ryoshu

tiny cave
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Daiyu is more for sin stuff

#

Butler is also good

#

You need 1 gluttony for index yi sang’s passive

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And the only generation is his s1 otherwise

main scaffoldBOT
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Ah right yeah

bronze zephyr
#

Mmm

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Cinq Meur provides Glut fortunately

tiny cave
#

I believe the thoras are covered?
Ryo Thora needs lust, wrath

#

Team has zero wrath generation outside of furioso so prob wanna put some wrath ID as your #7

bronze zephyr
#

Debating if I should swap out Butler or Cinq for Index Fau

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Mmm

#

I don’t have either thora so

tiny cave
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Faust Thora needs sloth, gloom which you have a lot of

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With no Thora you don’t have to worry about sins outside of getting yi sang’s passive active

signal kindle
faint pivot
main scaffoldBOT
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Renclair...?

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But only his S3

#

Poise doesn't get much wrath

tiny cave
#

Captain Ish has wrath S3 as well

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Otherwise it’s Cinq Don which you can’t run with Index Don

#

Butler Ryo has wrath S3

#

Shi Faust has wrath S1 we’re saved

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Captain Ish is unironically a good slot 7 even if she’s super gimmicky

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Assist attack helps build Riensang’s stacks, wrath S3

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Or you just double slot Riensang and don’t care about Thora

faint pivot
#

Nice pfp Gnocchian

tiny cave
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Ty

ebon forge
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P

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First MDE50 done!
And it only took until 4 AM

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wait what the fuck it's 4 am

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How is it starlight posi- oh right adversities give starlight

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I saw furioso replica do that much damage game

tiny cave
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Status damage doesn’t count

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oh right

tiny cave
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If it did sinking damage or whatever that’s included in the number at the bottom of the screen but it won’t count towards the achievement

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I got similarly scammed with deluge (I think I was 200 off 20k but the number read 20601)

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Also dang, lost the 50/50 for a new ID with the ticket thing
Probably should have waited a week first but meh

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Anyway, yay now I never need to do this ever again until next season

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i guess they gave faubina an insane support passive so you can stop using kraust

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Holy shit

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Dawg I’m gonna be farming lunacy for ts

faint pivot
# tiny cave

2 times per turn per ally or 2 times as a whole

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Either way, damn!

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i think its 2 times per turn as a whole but ya its huge value with nryo guard

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"I had once tried, despite my insufficient knowledge, to "pick my brain." It was a failed attempt to adjust the volume of my brain by carving and trimming it. Had I known the sheer difficulty of molding one's own brain when limited to relying only on the tactile senses of the hands... Well, I wouldn't have had to cover a part of my corpus with this headpiece. "
Hong lu lmao

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tiny cave
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The Binah is taking over

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tiny cave
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So no Denji or backflip

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Hong lu defeat wail: ... I have but one final request. How did my gallery appear... reflected in your eyes?
Do you know... what was wanting...? Why could I not recreate... the magnum opus from so long ago...?

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Talking about his eye: But once I studied it myself, once I explored its intricacies… I must say, I was positively flabbergasted. My, it even helped me understand that there was something gramps and grannies simply could not let go.

minor gust
atomic steeple
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I think he means his own artwork, such as tibia

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cubism confirmed though

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when is ring cubist maestro mersault coming

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and cubist student gregor with maestro pablo (picasso)

atomic steeple
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rip

unique bane
atomic steeple
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Thanks

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Seems ring faust doesn't like hanging out with don
Yuri is dead videogames

tiny cave
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but yuri is alive

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i saw her in the midsummer event

atomic steeple
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Also, corpus theater in his uptie sounds like a domain expansion

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Oh, ring hong lu is so cool

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THUMB NURSEFATHER RODION REAL

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Now, only matthias left, and then ryoshu probably as pinky

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oh yeah we need to get the thub duo

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matthias outis

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Forgot they aren't out

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When there’s literally a bit before her fight where Vergilius goes “man, drowning yourself in vices to mask your self hatred after you lost everything is pathetic” and then it cuts to Rodion, completely silent

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“Oh but Heathcliff would go from abused to abuser!”

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I DONT CARE

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SHES MEANT TO PARALLEL RODION ALREADY

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WHY WOULDNT SHE HAVE HER ID?

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we already had book accurate heathcliff and he had a headless horse

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Anyway, I only care about bleed

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I can shard the ring duo next week

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holy crap they're strong

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Is their count good?

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Also means you can actually bring the Nursefather and apprentice IDs to their respective fights

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With Gregor!

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meursaltlingstill makes me fucking laugh

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that man was born 30\

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Callu can actually maintain a stack

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Like

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Really well

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Once he's going in a solo he can consistently keep his bleed stack going

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This is outside of Md

worthy haven
# gentle mulch anyways whats the read on this?

My hot take is that it might be wayfarer corp people? ||They talk how this place hasnt been "observed" yet so I wonder if Wayfarer needs to scout places first for a Door to connect to there||

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could be...

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Anyone happen to have that art of Ryoshuling drawing Arashiki in front of a terrified Paus?

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I know it was sent here but search isn't pulling it up

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FOUND IT

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Bless

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thinking about it

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what ID is Mersault gonna get?

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I love Rodya

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So much

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But seeing her suffer is very funny

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That’s probably why her and Gregor are my favorite sinners

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I like putting them in the blender

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genuinely good
im on floor 6 of an MDIE run, genuinely pitiful damage compared to RienSang hybrid but the Maestro's instant attack weight is such good QoL

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since it's charupleed Tarnished Corrosion can actually do damage if he's first

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only concern is that he does not go consistently first

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it's mainly more a poise issue

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triple status means you're taking packs that are like Hey I Apply More Status! instead of killing people

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but yeah RienSang is just the win button

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not even winrate

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just win

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the only thing I'm unhappy about with the new duo

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is that there's no fucking way you're replacing Heishou and You Branch Spam in slashlux

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not necessarily my only concern

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but this is more like

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macro level than id level ig

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yeah fair

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but charge classification on ego gifts is still an issue

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listen all I'm saying is that from what I'm seeing these IDs are quite strong

gentle mulch
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and they're doing band aid fixes by just. making new ids count as charge than fixing what counts as charge

gentle mulch
stoic fjord
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like all these nursefathers are jobbers

gentle mulch
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I recall that funky "power up counts as charge" bug they fixed recently

stoic fjord
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I mean the Ring HoS Duo both count cause of their passives but yeah it being a Passive Feature is a bandaid

gentle mulch
stoic fjord
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Inb4 we get something akin to ISF/A

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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Charge-Burn-Bleed-Envy

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Except it's with The Sun instead of A Gun

gentle mulch
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Charge Potency max 3, each unlocks one layer

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Like no way

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But also

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Perhaps?

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BUMMM

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True, but he's now in the past

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As part of his journey to our side

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And guess where IDs come from

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I thank the Wings I held off on the idea

stoic fjord
gentle mulch