Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[glad fable]

Is that an N Corp Don in the background

[mystic ermine]

yup

unfortunately necessary for Bleed Tremor

[glad fable]

Does she even count as a bleed ID? I’m only seeing nails in her kit

[mystic ermine]

Nails are unique bleed

[glad fable]

Huh, so they are

[mystic ermine]

Lol
Lmao, even

second turn

heh

alright alright alright
we just need like
one more hidden boss and I'll see tripple digits

[karmic escarp]

awlgreg so hot.............

[mystic ermine]

TRUE

I wouldn't be saying this if he didn't do numbers, though
...
actually, I really like the haircut

[karmic escarp]

obviously im a Gregor Guy so i like all of him but i looove his outfit

[mystic ermine]

Fun fact
The pierce t1 gift that applies -2 defence level down for the turn on pierce or gluttony hit stacks indefinetly

ah gods damnit

didn't get a second hidden boss

[karmic escarp]

i <3 sticky muck

[mint elk]

Save some invasions for the rest of us. Out of my last 5 runs, only one had an invasion and it was ||Papa Don|| on literally the last node before the store on F15.

[mystic ermine]

I have a question

actuall,y IU don't

he lockedi n

[mystic ermine]

aww
alriight

hell yeah

[mint elk]

Go Greg go!

[atomic steeple]

I wonder, could everlasting work well with it? Would probably need sanguine desire to protect the stack

[main scaffold]

Do hemorrhage and scorch need bleed and burn count to do damage?

[atomic steeple]

Well, if bleed runs out then it won't contribute to the damage with its potency

I wonder if time moratorium helps?

[lean fjord]

They do yes

[atomic steeple]

bleed's biggest weakness, count

[eternal berry]

No, but obviously they won't perform as well as Tremor - Reverb without potency of their respective status

So ideally you can maintain a stack of Bleed or Burn

[main scaffold]

Wait so do they or don't they deal damage without bleed/burn

[atomic steeple]

they do

but it's just tremor pot/2

[main scaffold]

We see

Well that's still extra damage with amplitude entanglement at least

Apparently Index Don's pre uptie 3 art is sideways on the company tab

[atomic steeple]

Cool

[ebon forge]

Peak lmao

[atomic steeple]

Oh yeah, what's the bleed tremor team members?

Besides the 3 hybrids

[main scaffold]

Hmm, I wonder if it's worth applying Decay/Hemorrhage/Scorch with everlasting or if it's better to just focus on doing as many bursts as possible

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Well that's still extra damage with amplitude entanglement at least

(Probably not Decay because only Oufi Cliff can really do that on everlasting turns and he's kinda meh)

[lime swan]

im not the only one then, freaked me out last night, read through all of my gifs tryna figure out what hapepned

[bronze zephyr]

i keep rolling midnight of violet. i scream

how much worse is MoV from the other Midnights? Ive been told its the worst one and havent been able to clear it so

[lime swan]

isnt there a spot where youre forced to do violet

or am i misrimemberin, its been a while

[wintry fiber]

incredibly so

Green is basically not a threat if you know how to use elevators

and amber is tricky but doable since its just more worms

[atomic steeple]

Ring actor/director meursault
Book meur loved movies, but these are forbidden in N corp, so there might be a theatre culture besides the probably existence of canned stories in place of movies. Meursault in spring cultivation is a good actor, though that also might be him being good at reporting things through imitation, as N corp uses witness accounts heavily due to lacking recordings

[mint elk]

Hmmm, I wonder if canned experiences of viewing visual media also taboo.

[atomic steeple]

There's something darkly funny about characters that suffer an horrible fate in the original work popping up in a fic to suffer another

[cosmic gorge]

Is this yuri

[atomic steeple]

Tommy and merry

[cosmic gorge]

Oh dear

[uneven canopy]

but what if they did it... again?

[stoic fjord]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULZ52CeF6Ik||

SAIKAI music box cover, I think.

Canto 9 spoilers

[keen palm]

https://youtube.com/shorts/E5zpqG1wKzQ?si=7jZZDHzHEQnPMAyL

[stoic fjord]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OycDDq4Go8M||

Canto 9 boss 10 theme

major canto 9 spoilers

sort of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUJ4g0-Z1Ww

[faint pivot]

I wonder where that Heathcliff scream was from

[main scaffold]

So uh. We got a furioso off in exp luxcavation

So that's why this ID is supposed to be good

[tiny cave]

The ID does insane damage without furioso

But yes Furioso does extra insane damage

[main scaffold]

I guess he's just less outwardly flashy as Index Don so it's hard to notice

Gnocchian with Meatballs ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) The ID does insane damage without furioso

[lean fjord]

his skills are just really good

Riensang also stacks Prescripts much easier, since he just needs to use marked skills, not even against the target necessarily

[tiny cave]

Doesn’t he need marked vs target for prescript 2

Or just press evade once

[main scaffold]

that's every index ID though?

Allie | Fox Knight (she/they) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Riensang also stacks Prescripts much easier, since he just needs to use marked skills, not even agai…

They all just get faster grace build up if they hit the targets

[gentle mulch]

his in particular has the pre-furioso condition of "ehhh just use your unbreakables lol"

[main scaffold]

Isn't that just for Procuration Hermes?

[gentle mulch]

also one of his prescripts

others are like

use a marked skill 3

or ego awakening

his is like

just build hermes shjit idknowww

[main scaffold]

Oh, that's what you mean

[uneven canopy]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1s67w0o/thank_you_outis/

op seems to be artist

[signal kindle]

https://youtu.be/FdLbtw0Avy8?si=t4DyCI5oR3XnT_oX

[lean fjord]

It's just something that takes time

[gentle mulch]

oh

thats right the preview had hong lu giving an extra attack to faust

thanks hong lu for being our universal commander id holder

https://tenor.com/view/feels-the-aura-gif-2347929915833160550

[cloud wadi]

mirror dungeon extreme

beaten

I have encountered

0 secret boss

[cosmic gorge]

giving captain ish a hug after hongler steals her thunder twice

[cloud wadi]

riensang perished from an incident involving a Mexican woman at the final stretch

[cosmic gorge]

aida'd?

[cloud wadi]

yeah

Index ids are broken af in general though

Still favorable/dominating at mde 15

Without morositas

[ebon forge]

Hong Lu’s handler is the elders and Hong Lu is forced to larp a handler lmao

[gentle mulch]

he was trained for this!!

[gentle mulch]

yeah theyre kinda nuts

[eternal gull]

🔥

I love index

I ahve all three index ids they are baller

[cosmic gorge]

I only got 2b faust

I might shard the other two

[lean fjord]

speaking of MDE
every time I try the crabs, it goes really poorly for me

which I keep hearing they're supposed to be an easy pack

[main scaffold]

They have a lot of counters IWRC which can be a pain

The big thing is they all have a chance to attack each other and you have to make sure not to clash those skills

[gentle mulch]

easy pick if you follow the strat of popping a 7+ weight ego every turn

otherwise your best bet is like

the fairy book

my usual rotation is

[neat cedar]

crab rave goes hard

[ebon forge]

Or just kill them faster than they can kill you

But yeah, they’re easy cuz you can hit them with the YIN LONG: TARNISHED BLOOD CORROSION

[gentle mulch]

impenetrable path
crabs if NOT using ego spam/dawn of green
flex
league of 9
crabs/fairy

im ngl

I'm kinda disappointed we didn't get the nursefathers as secret bosses

[lean fjord]

that might be it I guess
I don't usually use much EGO
but I also find them to not keep up very well at high floors, even with the rocks

[gentle mulch]

even with sharp needle?

dang

[main scaffold]

...I should probably get more Ishmael IDs

(If you’re wonder what abomination of a team we’re building, we’re trying to make an I Shall Fire/Anytime team with the IDs we already have)

[fickle crown]

Crabs are my worst goddamn nightmare in MD solo runs

I will literally take the church of gears over those fuckers

Because at least the worshippers won't stack a billion rupture on you, you'll just die instead

[main scaffold]

...

17 poise, 30 SP, no crits or heads

You know, I'm starting to think I Shall Fire/Anytime is not worth building around

[karmic escarp]

or maybe bad RNG makes things worse

[wild mango]

I find that it’s not really

[stoic fjord]

It's not, it's just really cool to be able to pull off

[wild mango]

It’s nerfed compared to nsangs regular s3 since you don’t have to kill someone

[stoic fjord]

I find that I end up doing it a few times in superposition, but then by the time MDE rolls around Yi Sang does too much damage to do it much

[wild mango]

Which is stupid imo

[stoic fjord]

NShu and NSang are my favorite mid-tier IDs

They're not meta

They perform decently and consistently but not spectacularly

[wild mango]

Nshu is still GREAT in bleed

[stoic fjord]

And I love them anyways

[wild mango]

For

Uh

3 more days

[wild mango]

The evil and sinister corporist duo:

[stoic fjord]

Technically the ring duo could be a flop

But that's unlikely seeing the other IDs so far

[main scaffold]

It's actually buffed from what I can tell

PunchBunny (He/They) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) It’s nerfed compared to nsangs regular s3 since you don’t have to kill someone

[stoic fjord]

The closest thing we have so far is Kiramael and even then she's still solid, and Outis Matthias is coming soon probably

[wild mango]

Oh sorry, thought it was nerfed

But it hasn’t ever been amazing for me

[rancid raptor]

Um, if anyone feels like reading, this is the current item and skill database for the PM tabletop me and my friend are working on. It's still a WIP and we plan to unify the terms and wordings in the future. o7

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IWkDurl-pDUj8JezxtSh9F2lm-bE1nlRVVpe0yBO_Ww/edit?usp=sharing

Be warned that it is quite a lot of reading

[main scaffold]

Annoying thing we've realized about testing teams against Lei Heng: he has a health gate 🫠

How are we supposed to do funny everlasting stuff on turn 4 if he just ends it halfway through 😭

[atomic steeple]

I wonder if you can combo everlasting hemorrhage with sanguine desire meursault 99 clash

[main scaffold]

99 clash...?

[atomic steeple]

The inquisitor meursault trick

[main scaffold]

😕

[atomic steeple]

The one where he and the enemy have minimum clash

[gentle mulch]

i do thoroughly enjoy using facade projection on meursault because yeah base meursault can just do savage tigerslayer yup

[atomic steeple]

So they keep getting ties until they hit the 99 limit

[main scaffold]

I have no idea what you're talking about

[atomic steeple]

Proccinh bleed every time

Okay so
A clash ties if you get both sides to the minimum clashing value

This means they keep clashing up to 99 times

Which is a limit the game has to end clashes

[main scaffold]

I see

[atomic steeple]

If you have sanguine desire, bleed never runs out

And keeps activating on the enemy

[main scaffold]

That sure do be 9081 damage

[atomic steeple]

This is a trick done with inquisitor meursault, a notoriously weak clasher

So I'm wondering about a tremor bleed team that manages to do this and a bunch of tremor bursts at once

[main scaffold]

…can you burst while clashing?

[atomic steeple]

Nah, but inquistor meursault doesn't burst anyway

I meant he does the clash loop, while other characters burst

All abusing the fact bleed count won't drop

Would have to see how fast grip faust is so she can set everlasting

[atomic steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-FHS2VuvOY
Cool. A nice and friendly channel that tried out bleed tremor team

[keen palm]

https://youtu.be/uisS3ecIKC8?si=cqZ-bqijDKxAzGLX

Love how everyone spotted that this is Just Ryoshu and the animator had to admit it

(This isnt a plagiarism thing its just very clear the dude's ideal woman is Just Ryoshu)

[atomic steeple]

Some clatty fruitcake they are.
→ What does a C.F. taste like? Is it artistic? You piqued my interest. (Ryōshū)
→ That's just a common Backstreets phrase… Meaning something absurd. (Ishmael)
→ I know. J.K. (Ryōshū)
I'm betting ryoshu didn't actually know

SHe did grow upa bit sheltered

[lean fjord]

it is so fun when FAS Ryoshu just chains her extra attacks into each other

do an S3, trigger Magnificent End, it staggered a guy so do an S1

[stoic fjord]

S1 empties the revolver so do the S1-2

[lean fjord]

the dream

[atomic steeple]

I keep going into ao3 to grab nothing there fanfics. My blorbo

[bronze zephyr]

of the 5 bloodfiends, which are best to cut from the team if needed? barber > priest > prince > princess > manager or?

[split beacon]

not priest

probably barber > princess > (prince/priest depending on how many you're running) > manager

manager and prince can fuel themselves solo, prince can support like one other bloodfiend decently well, priest is really necessary if you're gonna run like 3+ of the squad

barber is a gluttonous fiend who mops up all the leftover bloodfeast

[tiny cave]

Cut barber then priest

You cannot cut Princess

[bronze zephyr]

Hm noted
Mostly considering dropping Barber for Ringsang after the new Ring Duo drops incase they have synergy

[tiny cave]

You need a Rodion ID for sanguine desire

[split beacon]

ugh right

I forgor about sanguine desire, otherwise I think prince-princess-manager never plays when priest-prince-manager exists

[tiny cave]

Yeah Sanguine generates all the bloodfeast you need for those three anyway

So Manager-Prince-Princess-KK Heath-KK Ish-+2 is usual these days

With more emphasis on potency because Sanguine is all your count

[split beacon]

RING OUTIS SNUBBED AGAIN

UNBELIEVABLE

[lean fjord]

Barber is the most cuttable

unfortunately

and then Priest, of the Bloodfiends

[cloud wadi]

And then manager

Third most cuttable from bloodfiend rank

[bronze zephyr]

wild to me

but you are losing two of her enhanced skills so

also. graaaah kit reveal in 8 hrs

[lean fjord]

Princess is just kinda non negotiable, because you need a Rodya for Sanguine

and it's her only Bleed ID

[atomic steeple]

Well...

Kk and inquisitor exist

[bronze zephyr]

lol.

n rodya.

[tiny cave]

Her enhanced S2 is bad

Enhanced S1 is fine

[bronze zephyr]

hm ic

[lean fjord]

no they don't

[atomic steeple]

Gaslighting me

[bronze zephyr]

I should prob cut barber for ringsang but i really like her,

ill decide when albina and callisto release

[cosmic gorge]

Damn it i was just done leveling my bleed team for md

[lean fjord]

they don't in any way that matters 😛

[stoic fjord]

my personal opinion is that you play with the IDs you like from a team and it'll probably work

within reason. you do not cut Hong Lord from heishou

[atomic steeple]

Meta is an extant form of life

[lean fjord]

also my Riensang just hit a 20k Furioso during MDE

[bronze zephyr]

classic

[lean fjord]

well, that's 15/50 done

now I probably won't do that again this season lmao

[bronze zephyr]

Fr

[stoic fjord]

I'm currently doing my... I think 4th MDE of this season

[wild mango]

how the hell is hook hong lu doing the most damage here???

surely kk lu is better?

[lean fjord]

well I will do MDE again

just not the full 50 extra stuff

[stoic fjord]

ohhhh fair

I always do the 50

mainly to keep my starlight up

[lean fjord]

I don't, since even if you're just farming Projection you only need like 34 or so to cap out IIRC?

[stoic fjord]

oh fr?

damn

didn't know that lmao

[wild mango]

given that theyre not doing 00s anymore, i feel like once a season becomes shardable again, some 000s in that season should become 00s

like, not nerfed

but be 150 shards to get and less resources to upgrade

since the distinction is kinda useless now and it makes pulling a bit weird

since all the 00s (aka more common to pull) are less up to date now

idk if the criterion would be "not reflecting a named character" but yeah

i'd propose also named characters that are a tier "down" from the top end would too

so the apprentice ids would get "downgraded"

[unique bane]

Does anyone have tips for using furioso with riensang? I feel like it's pretty hard to pull off een with him in the first slot

[bronze zephyr]

i wish i knew, ive heard evading turn 1 helps but ive also heard it doesnt so like

shrug loll

i just use marked skills every turn

[tiny cave]

evade turn 1

make sure you get his passive active turn 1

double slot

with passive he needs 1 skill 1, 1 skill 2 and 1 skill 3 to get to 9 stacks (while at unlock 2) if you evade

[bronze zephyr]

Mmmm that might be what ive been doing wrong

[tiny cave]

so furioso turn 5 earliest

if you double slot the only way you don't hit 9 stacks is if you use all s1s

[keen palm]

I just do whatever rhe prescript tells me and it all works out and yi sang only sometimes explodes

[stoic fjord]

this tbh

I just

do the prescripts

and get furioso to end the fight

[lean fjord]

you only really get it on slightly longer fights

[bronze zephyr]

god i wish his kit was simpler

[lean fjord]

or right on the end of shorter ones

[lean fjord]

the majority of it is honestly stuff you don't really need to worry about

he has a bunch of mechanics, but primarily it just boils down to use highlighted skills, hit Prescript target when you can

and then he just has big numbers

[bronze zephyr]

true but he still has like. at least 10 unique statuses in his kit, which makes it hard to actually parse

even if the result is "evade or use marked skill"

[lean fjord]

Prescripts go up as you do stuff
Unlock happens automatically as you fulfill Prescripts

Procuration goes up as you hit with red coins, and is just a tracker of how close you are to Furioso

all of his weapons just change the damage type and inflict a minor debuff on enemy or benefit to his attack

he just doesn't really have anything you need to actually pay attention to

[bronze zephyr]

still wish i was able to actually parse his kit on the first or second or third read through and didnt need it explained to me fnsdkfnd but maybe thats just. a reading comp skill issue

[keen palm]

His kit is super simple

Follow the funny lights and eventually he kills everyone or dies

Ezpz

[lean fjord]

he has a bunch of shit going on, but most of it just doesn't affect your decision making at all basically

[keen palm]

Tbh the only IDs that people make go sicko mode that I dont get are maost and capo

[stoic fjord]

with maost it's basically like... use your clashable counter and make sure there's one unopposed attack going into your team that isn't aimed at her

[bronze zephyr]

yeah maost is worse at NFEs

but shes still. maost

[lean fjord]

yeah you need to use the counter for Maost to actually pop off that much

since that way you just get an extra S3-2 every round for free

[bronze zephyr]

i just dont use the counter cuz shes still usually my #1 dmg dealer alongside hong lord without it and idrc ab tryharding w her

[glad fable]

\ The team seems to stack a lot of bleed count so cloud cutter is usually offline

[wild mango]

i see

[lean fjord]

Cloudcutter is so funny

Bleed move that gets worse the more bleed you have

[cosmic gorge]

There are some kits i still dont get

Even if i have them

[stoic fjord]

there are some kits so mysterious not even El Director knows

[cosmic gorge]

I only just fathomed how to ncorp duo recently

And thats mostly from doing absolute lust rest contempt ego into Fire Anytime with a guarding awryo next turn

[lean fjord]

FAS Ryoshu is probably my favorite ID rn
She's just really fun

[cosmic gorge]

I dont get the intricacies of beesalt and Fasryo

I just know they Shoot Good

Also how does Nsang stack torn memory again

[lean fjord]

With the EGO ideally

Otherwise I think he slowly accumulates it with his skills?

[cosmic gorge]

Oh shit the Fell Bullet Ego i forgot to attach it to him 😭

[stoic fjord]

I wonder what the best E.G.O gear and E.G.O pair is

[keen palm]

Well only one person so far has done both

so it's Kali and Mimicry

[stoic fjord]

No, I mean the IDs

Like

Fell Bullet E.G.O Yi Sang with the E.G.O

N Corp Ryoshu with Contempt Awe

Magic Bullet outis + magic bullet E.G.O

AEDD Gregor

ABS Faust

[keen palm]

I would say it's actually none of those and it's Hong Kong and Carnal Blood tbh

[main scaffold]

Mostly his skills, but you can retain some from Fell Bullet EGO if you have enough Pride resources (which is to say 12)

Thyme, Dawnline Shoreman [🔔] ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Also how does Nsang stack torn memory again

[stoic fjord]

Right but that's not an E.G.O Gear ID and its corresponding E.G.O

Like, yeah, that combo is kinda busted but I'm thinking the E.G.O specifically

[keen palm]

I'd say thennnnnnnnnnnn

Magicka Don

[cosmic gorge]

Isee

Also uhh

Riensang has burn does he

Or was it just poisinking

[keen palm]

He takes extra burn damage

[cosmic gorge]

Oh pfft

[lean fjord]

he doesn't deal Burn, he just takes 1 Burn and Bleed each turn while Sizzling Wound is active

okay sorry, Furioso does actually deal some Burn

does 5 Burn to each target hit on the next turn

[keen palm]

wait what the hell

does he count as a burn ID then?

[lean fjord]

he does not

because non base skills aren't counted for that

so Furioso does count as a Burn inflicting Skill, but Riensang is not a Burn ID

[gentle mulch]

i do wonder

if theyll release an ID that genuinely fucks with the 6-skill system instead of having add-ons to it

[unique bane]

I hate that this is accurate sangria /j

[keen palm]

Its kinda fucked that Dongrang is still the only person to distort into an ego

Canonically the only person to ever do it

[fluid whale]

I mean Philip did the opposite, stands to reason it was possible

[main scaffold]

He didn't fully manifest EGO though 😔

[split beacon]

To be fair, he needed a hell of a push to achieve his EGO after Distorting

Feels like Hohenheim was close, just not quite ready

He’s ultimately too normal and accepting of things as they are

He could be an EGOtist, he’s got a hell of an ego, he’s just too tender and normal underneath it all

If he could squash that part of himself and fully dedicate himself into forcing the world to be better so he doesn’t have to suffer like that again he could do it, but he’s too attached to other people to make the final leap

[fluid whale]

See Hohenheim also didn't distort naturally either, he had to put himself in front of a Monolith, so who knows if he would actually generate a Distortion if he got caught out in the wild?

[split beacon]

Spider Pyre nearly threw him over the edge tbh

His ass was corroding HARD in that Big Bird suit

[gentle mulch]

it probably doesnt help that he doesnt have the aptitude for it and alyssa did just try to max corrode her suit in front of him

[split beacon]

Big Birb had him in arrears though

[gentle mulch]

yeah

just checked

it was a lobotomy ego too

probably the safest you can get and he's put in the exact cocktail to corrode out of his fucking mindddddd

[lean fjord]

so since we've seen it a couple times now
is dual wielding EGO just a matter of locking in hard enough?

[gentle mulch]

like i guess!!

ryoshu is just Her

"my gear does half damage? okay ill use two then"

[lean fjord]

admittedly the only ones we've seen do it are Ryoshu, who is achieving Geburah levels of Her, and Hohenheim, who is noted as being exceptionally good at attuning to and using EGO

[gentle mulch]

hohenheim is also pretty locked in

dunno about being to Ryoshu levels though

[keen palm]

I think Ego Gear is largely easier to dual-wield, but it's usually unwieldy to do so because you need to find Thematically Relevant Abnormalities

Who are also thematically relevant to you

[lean fjord]

I meant gear specifically yeah

Though I guess it wouldn't be impossible to use gear and a personal EGO together

[keen palm]

I also mean Gear

[ebon forge]

Gebura, no?

[keen palm]

Gebura is wielding personal + gear

not 2 gear

[ebon forge]

I mean

That’s what Allie said

[lean fjord]

True yeah

Forgot about that

[keen palm]

Oh

I didn't see what that was a response to

[neat cedar]

these are some wuld kits

i like em

[faint pivot]

Shit

SHIT

A BLEED FAUST WITH GLUTTONY

REPRESENTATION EMITTER IS BACK ON THE TABLE FOLKS

Fau with all 3 defense skill types

UNICHARGE WITH POTENCY

Thank you for the meal Faust

Thank you for the meal Hong Lu

Idec if they're mono status, these two rock

[atomic steeple]

Maybe we'll see a lobotomy ego user with mimicry and a secondary weapon to deal with NOthing There (since red damage is bad to suppress it)

[atomic steeple]

"Every employee is now going to do a personality quiz to see which abnormalities best match you"

[vagrant dove]

X handing out the buzzfeed personality quizes

[cosmic gorge]

All the meguca girlies trying to game their quiz answers so that they can buddy up with Queen of Hatred

[vagrant dove]

L-Corp Don didn't even have to try

They took one look at her ass talking about how she joined the company to smiteth villains verily and gave her the ego gear

[atomic steeple]

bleed count...
They knew they had to give her something to compete with grip faust

[faint pivot]

Mimicry and Da Capo

In both you see double

In both you see trouble

Aha, I'm feeling deja vu for some reason

Wheremst has this scene came up before?

[worthy haven]

is that 3 def skills lol

[faint pivot]

Yes

[faint pivot]

2 from his counter, 1 from s1 (1 more on crit), 1 from his s2 (2 more on crit)

That said

He doesn't need to be at 7 Torn Memory to do ISF/A

He can do the move at 0 poise and 0 TM
He just has to crit for it to be effective or worth the effort

[faint pivot]

I know this stuff wasn't implemented for out of universe reasons (Failed Kickstarter Budget!! How'd they make this hell so addicting???) but

I find it so sweetly ironic that the system which encourages you to off your employees came up with a formula that prevents them from doing a kamikaze on your command

[atomic steeple]

Yeah lob corp originally was gonna have dual wielding and ego alteration

[faint pivot]

There's clearly other in-universe reasons for LobCorp EGO being built how they are (Faelantern's noted breach-via-EGO being one of them) but I can't help and find this a darkly laughable sequence

[faint pivot]

Middle game Lobotomy Corporation spoilers:
My nelson boy, she wields ||EIGHT, plus her EGO suit,|| in her core suppression. ||Now granted, it's 2 gear at a time at first, starting with R.E.A.P. before solely using Alephs, but she later uses 3 gear at a time. Plus her suit.||

I am so so so fucking thankful to my past self for choosing to continue core suppressions after a day 1 restart, my sanity would've been in the negatives had I tried to truck on

[atomic steeple]

Ah, I want mimicry themed clothing

Mimicry dress

[cosmic gorge]

HOLY SHIT

ahem

I tried to do the Ncorp Wombo Combo but for some reason, because one of my allies killstealed the only enemy on the board and i had night awl greg,
aweryo instead immediately attacked the lowest health sinner with her s1 before nsang killed them???

[atomic steeple]

yeah aweshu does that

she softens up a sinner so fell sang can kill them easier

[cosmic gorge]

oh i thought it was an awl greg related dilemma

will she still have the chance to Do That even if i slot her Guard?

[atomic steeple]

Bloodfiends vs canto 9 final boss
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnxslzqwlQY||

[atomic steeple]

DUnno

Is it written in her kit?

[cosmic gorge]

not sure

also, SL yisang counts as an ammo id right

[atomic steeple]

Ah was distrected this morning and didn't play ruina

wanna put cruelty on my bleed decks again

I thinnk that's what's missing on my shi builds

hm. A passive that acts like remembrance but for status infliction could be interesting

[cloud wadi]

where are the avant garde artists in the Ring

those who welcome vandalism as a form of interaction with the art piece

[atomic steeple]

Like, inflict extra bleed stacks when fellow librarians die

[stoic fjord]

Oh, no, she just does that lmao, iirc even if enemies are still on the board?

[lean fjord]

They look pretty good at a glance

[atomic steeple]

Replaces grip faust by giving us bleed count without needing to build up rodya sanity and resources as soon as possible to use sanguine desire

[stoic fjord]

https://youtu.be/3f1regBxoNs

Oh, this guy again! The one who did a level 1 mariachi Sinclair solo

I'm cooking heat

[tiny cave]

bloisemor?

[stoic fjord]

no, just trembleed

Yi Sang is just there to shoot NDon so we can field usable units

[tiny cave]

lol

be careful cos she might die in non-boss fights if this is for MD

[stoic fjord]

I might just not field her until the boss

that or I could level her a bit

....wow. Hook Office Hong Lu is kind of shit.

like he's not awful

but also he's gonna need some serious MD juice in his system for lategame

[faint pivot]

She can if you don't meet the requirements for ISF/A
She only softens up allies if NSang's about to shoot at them with his s3 (her modified skill 1 does half damage but also cannot kill them)

[faint pivot]

It's under the conditions for ISF/A

[faint pivot]

Correct

[faint pivot]

True, but consider: Callislu is right around the corner (me coping)

[stoic fjord]

right but I need to do teams now

[faint pivot]

Fair enough

[lean fjord]

The Ring duo looks pretty great honestly

[stoic fjord]

mhm

I plan to slot them into bluptcharge

[faint pivot]

Would be a Ring solo cause Yi Sang is gonna be blasting on this team

[worthy haven]

ye i think ring duo is make me gonna change up my bleed team

[faint pivot]

...oh the HoS duo, mb

I agree

[stoic fjord]

he only blasts Don

[lean fjord]

Very good odds of running them in Bleed I think

[stoic fjord]

after that I play very carefully and have him not do that

[faint pivot]

They're gonna complete my fuckass bloodfiend-ISF/A team when I get them

[worthy haven]

3 fiends (don, mersault and rod), kk duo, HoS ring duo or 2 fiend, kk duo, ring duo and allen i think

[lean fjord]

I meant the new ones, yeah

[faint pivot]

I had a brainfart and thought we were talking about Ring Sang and Ringtis

[atomic steeple]

I finally have motivation to get ring sang

[stoic fjord]

I think I'll do 2 bleed teams

[atomic steeple]

To build bloodfiend ring team

[stoic fjord]

maybe 3

all 5 bloodfiends and then the 2 others

KK, Ring, and ISF/A

[faint pivot]

I'm 100% getting 3
ISF/A
Solely fiends
The Middle™

[lean fjord]

Very curious if the seasonal Ryoshu is gonna make running all the Spider House IDs together viable somehow

Probably not in MD though lmao

[faint pivot]

It'll probably be tangentially

Since iirc the HoS IDs will act as her healthbars

Unlike Hong Lord who uses them as his skills

[atomic steeple]

You know, I think N corp in general will be a resonance faction with some bleed and lust around, with subgroups focusing on bleed or such
Like a hemorrhage subteam, a charge bleed subteam, a pure bleed subteam, and whatever the 9 authors team ends up like

[lean fjord]

I believe her skills also get altered based on whos there

[atomic steeple]

They will make her stronger too

[faint pivot]

Oh right

[lean fjord]

Presumably adding keywords based on who ahe deploys with

[faint pivot]

Peam

[lean fjord]

At minimum this wouod mean seasonal Ryoshu plus the respective two HoS IDs will probably serve as a good fulcrum for hybrid teams

[atomic steeple]

I'm guessing she's a poise burn unit with some bleed
Or poise with some poise and bleed
Plus bonus damage
And each HoS id will synergize with one status and bonus damage
And she'll do self damage on her strongest attacks, which HoS ids will tank for her

[faint pivot]

Please please please please please be blurnoise

[atomic steeple]

Middle burn bleed
Index poise and unga bunga damage
Ring bleed
Thumb burn

[faint pivot]

Pinky is bleed poise

Renclair is, at least

[atomic steeple]

And she'll get some "severed string" status for each death, making her stronger like don responsibility

Also there might be a sort of "reminder" status that works like bolus contamination, enhancing her in different ways for each house finger

Where she activates memories of techniques

[stoic fjord]

the LCE announcer says this turn after taking devestating damage

bro really said "maybe Dante just picked whatever the fuck"

[bronze zephyr]

Ringsang upscale ‼️

[keen palm]

The new IDs being Bleed/Charge is a left turn

[bronze zephyr]

I mean albina and callisto had unique charge

And PM hasn’t done a mono status ID in Ages

[keen palm]

I didn't realize those were charge stacks

[faint pivot]

The Ring HoS duo are indeed, Blarge

[keen palm]

lol

[faint pivot]

UniCharge, even~

Albina and Fau get the first type of UniCharge with changing potency iirc

[faint pivot]

I believe they'll technically be monobleed?

Cause some Charge gifts key off of skills that gain or consume charge?

But not all of them

[bronze zephyr]

Nope, Magical Don

[faint pivot]

Ah right

I forgot that was UniCharge to begin with lmfao

[lean fjord]

Well they have skills that spend charge at least

Then it depends on if their passive counts as gaining charge for gifts

Though Faust also has some gain on S2

[bronze zephyr]

I won’t be running them in charge prolly

[faint pivot]

Ah wait, they do, just spotted that

We...

We'd have enough for Blarge now?

Hum, didn't realize that until now

WAIT

BLARGE WAS ALWAYS POSSIBLE
HOWEVER
WE CAN NOW REPLACE
RHINO MEURSAULT

Bleed-rupture-charge
xyz Rabbitcliff
xy Prince
xy Flex
yz Flex
yz Flex
xz Callislu
xz Albinaust

...missed "rupture" in that acronym earlier but ah well

[atomic steeple]

https://old.rxddit.com/r/LobotomyCorp/comments/nrx4h1/ive_had_enough_aka_local_mimicry_employee_snapped/

[faint pivot]

Accurate

[lean fjord]

Repression work in action

[faint pivot]

Me if X had enough of a constitution and competence to don Mimicry

Istg the times I wanted to laser beam tis snake outnumber the hours I've lived with her

[wild mango]

Huh, didn’t expect them to synergize with other ring units

[stoic fjord]

also REAPshu

[wild mango]

They might unseat KK duo?

[faint pivot]

They could always go together no?

[wild mango]

Depends on how strong they are tbh

Well

3 core blood fiends

KK duo

[faint pivot]

Prince should do just fine

[wild mango]

That only leaves 2 slots

If they’re just better than kk duo, run ringsang and ring outis in those last slots

[faint pivot]

Hyper spoilers for canto 9
||https://youtu.be/h4tQIxqSop8?si=RJYdEikL1vshf1Ht||

[bronze zephyr]

no vespa, criminal

[faint pivot]

7 slots

[faint pivot]

Realizing just now

That Alyssa is there

Hohenheim

Did that rock happen to fall on your head my man?

[stoic fjord]

What do you mean Callisto Hong Lu has a smidge of burn.

it's ragebait

this is ragebait

KJH saw everyone saying burn season and is tormenting us

[gentle mulch]

wh

[lean fjord]

same as how Riensang deals a tiny bit of Burn I guess 😛

[gentle mulch]

holy shit three defenses

[lean fjord]

also just realized
between the Middle and Thumb IDs, and Ryoshu seasonal, you still get to five Burn if you run HoS together

once we have those anyway

[gentle mulch]

oh wow never fucking skill swap Faust's skill 2

or else she stops being a charge unit for MD

[lean fjord]

depends on if their passive will still make their skills count for gaining charge

but yeah

[gentle mulch]

iirc the classification is "Skills that gain Charge or Charge Count"

[lean fjord]

they also still spend Charge with their skills

[gentle mulch]

if it's more inclusive than that then im happy

I'm unsure if spending charge is classified as still being Charge for Mirror Dungeon

[lean fjord]

it varies by gift

[gentle mulch]

which sucks

and should be changed

oh instead of changing the wording of the gift

they just slapped the classification on the passives

which. i feel isn't the best decision

[lean fjord]

it's just kinda how they had to do it

but yeah I forgot about that part

[gentle mulch]

WHY DOES HE HAVE BURN

WHY

they're taunting us

they're actually taunting us

happy fucking burn season lmao

[lean fjord]

I think they might just be giving all the Nursefathers some Burn on their big moves

Riensang also does the 5 Burn on Furioso

[gentle mulch]

i guess it's like

[lean fjord]

do we think Thumb are next, or Middle Outis?

[gentle mulch]

a way to show they were still sorta cut or affected by ryoshu or something

but damn

that's just cruel

[gentle mulch]

I swear to God we're gonna get Middle Outis first
Walp
Nocturnal Sweeping
New intervallo
Canto 10
then the thumb
then capstone

okay wow that ring upscale is kinda fucking nuts

[dusty sigil]

What?

[gentle mulch]

every ring id now ticks down hong Lu's

https://tenor.com/view/kill-everyone-kill-everyone-patrick-bateman-bateman-gif-16111213873524301929

skill 3-2

[dusty sigil]

Oh dear

Full ring team real

[lean fjord]

it's probably gonna have a cap per turn I assume

but yeah

[gentle mulch]

oh yeah if it's a cap per turn thennnnn ig just

keep the duo then

[lean fjord]

I assume it will still benefit from more Ring Ids

[gentle mulch]

like i hope

[lean fjord]

but also not go too crazy with more either

[dusty sigil]

Also chat, am I forgetting anyone when I say our Bleed factions are Ring, Kurokumo and Bloodfiends?

[lean fjord]

interesting MD hybrid team idea from the reddit

[dusty sigil]

Blupture…

[gentle mulch]

they already got maost just give me some solace for having +6 burn pot per cycle for the entire season combined

[lean fjord]

you can also swap Woutis for QoH Don

[gentle mulch]

tbh you kinda should

[stoic fjord]

With the desperado ammo for Rabbit Heath

[lean fjord]

very funny here also, you cannot fully swap out any skills on R Heath

or it stops working

[gentle mulch]

like just fuck my day up

rabbit Heath

kill everyone

[lean fjord]

S1 is the only Charge gain, S2 is the only Bleed, S3 the only Rupture

[stoic fjord]

1 S1, 1 S2, 4 S3s is the most you can do

Before it bricks

[lean fjord]

yeah

[gentle mulch]

going into the mirror dungeon and telling rabbit heath to just go nut

s

[dusty sigil]

Also I forgot the Pequod crew

Small faction but they count

And middle

Man there’s a lot of bleed factions

And n Corp

[lean fjord]

N Corp is the other big one yeah

[gentle mulch]

we got a lotta bleed factions

[dusty sigil]

I kinda forgot even the EGO gear N Corp IDs are both bleed

I don’t really think of Fell Bullet Yi Sang as bleed

[dusty sigil]

Also chat, with these two IDs finally have count

It appears that his niche is finally closed

Goodbye, my sweet

Rhino Meursault….

[lean fjord]

good

[dusty sigil]

How could you say that about my child?

[lean fjord]

do wonder how much count they'll give, but it's probably a decent amount
especially when charged up

[dusty sigil]

Hopefully an actually decent amount

Not being so reliant on sanguine would be so nice for bleed

Obviously it’ll still want it but like, not as much

[atomic steeple]

Extra skills don't count for md gifts

[vagrant dove]

I'm prob gonna try to make a full HOS team

[atomic steeple]

When fielded with ryoshu maybe they'll count as burn

Reading about the historical malleus maleficarum today
And holy shit the misogyny
Also apparently most of the church rejected it, but a Pope supported it, and secular courts widely adopted it in trials

[tired canyon]

Why did you make my voice stutter - ryoshu -?

[split beacon]

She has serious communication problems

It’s like

Kind of a major part of her as a character

She doesn’t literally stutter unless ||she thinks she’s talking to her mom||

[gentle mulch]

ohhhh

[split beacon]

I think one of the funniest things about Ryoshu that’s obvious from the get go but not fully hashed out for a long time is that her SANGRIAs mean she’s flat out not able to talk to people normally without her translator on hand

And that seems like it would make her unhappy but what actually indicates your Ryoshu is not ok and is about to eat a brick is when she drops them and starts speaking in a rather eloquent and descriptive mode

[lean fjord]

It's not cute
Ryoshus only do this when they're very stressed

[split beacon]

She’d rather people do not understand the insane things she’s saying than ||switch to Yoshihide mode||

[vagrant dove]

Yeah Heinrich Kramer was fucking weird about women, to say the least

[split beacon]

Genuinely the most haunting moment in Limbus Company so far isnt any of the gory wtf trauma moments

It’s the moment Ryoshu has no snappy comeback or fuck-you and just goes “W-why are you always like this…”

[glad fable]

New peak dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f1regBxoNs

(The peakest part is doing it with my favorite ID in the game)

[gentle mulch]

D-Dont go... Not... Like this...

rien gets put in the hopkins tier

[split beacon]

RIEEEEEEEN

[split beacon]

that entire interaction is so hexed when you know the full weight of what Ryoshu said there

AND THAT RIEN IS SO HOLLOW AND HEARTLESS THAT HE JUST TANKS IT

AND GOES "WOW THAT WAS REALLY EFFECTIVE"

[gentle mulch]

yeah like that's the horror of limbus

not the gore

or the Eldritch shit

but that type of shit

[split beacon]

the depravity of humans is genuinely so much worse than anything that Abnormalities are up to

[gentle mulch]

"Hey btw. that actually made me feel something haha. Okay bye" like THAT'S WHO YOU GREW UP WITH?

[split beacon]

which makes sense, Abnormalities are ultimately limited by the fact that while born from humanity and rooted in human interaction, they cannot make it personal

[gentle mulch]

yeah

just

like abnos are just doing their Thing Forever

But the people in that City

they're something else

[dusty sigil]

Ryoshu the kinda friend who says a single story from her childhood and you immediately go “oh thats why you’re like that”

[gentle mulch]

literally

like the writing of the canto was entirely like "okay well she's not the type of person to just espouse her feelings like that"

"so how do we convey everything without her talking so much" and it turns out all the Nursefathers are fucking scumbags

and Callisto who is like

a normal hack fraud loser

comparatively

[glad fable]

It's weird that one of the nicest things the nursefathers ever did was Callisto making a sword out of Ryoshu's dog

[split beacon]

Callisto is awful he's just like

not complicatedly awful, for Ryoshu

he just was like "child it's time to develop a taste in gore art"

[keen palm]

Callisto is the workaholic father

[gentle mulch]

like awful yeah but

not particularly special by City standards

[keen palm]

He loves his children but cannot ever engage or see them outside of Work

Just his Work is evil corpse shit

[vagrant dove]

To be fair, the people in the City are by and large trapped in their own cycles. Not to the same extent as Abnormalities of course, but I do think one reflects the other

Vengeance, murder, the corporate grind

Of course, the depravity of humans still remains worse because they could break the cycle

[tired canyon]

"your ryoshu" like it's a exotic pet

I love it

[vagrant dove]

This is NOT CUTE!!! Ryoshus only turn this colour when they're about to SYNC someone

[atomic steeple]

https://old.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1s7y68w/my_prediction_for_aprils_fool/

[bronze zephyr]

Lmao??

[dusty sigil]

LOL

[atomic steeple]

Gregor's dream

[ebon forge]

The 50 rodyas:

[keen palm]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-kAiICbJeGg?si=aE9rbedFvkfN1lRj

[atomic steeple]

Gregor, going into the depths of the dream and finding a gender change potion: I won't think too much on it

https://old.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1s7x31w/maestro_take_a_look_at_this_by_gonghead_6271/

[ebon forge]

Shibari Fau

I want to figure out how to make a Don doll

[vagrant dove]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-limbus-sancho-limbus-don-quixote-meme-gif-10582467011455985574

[cloud wadi]

So you can only use callistolu’s s3-2 once right

[lean fjord]

it doesn't look like he regains the timer, so probably

[stoic fjord]

Unless they're specified as another set of base skills

WAIT SHIT APRIL FIRST IS COMING UP

Limbus april first event... I'll finally be there...

[stoic fjord]

hook office hong lu is a cutie patootie

[karmic escarp]

always funny to remember how many checkhov's nuclear bombs are in play until youre skimming an event and remember oh ||yeah pcorp has papa don's corpse in the freezer like walt disney and don doesnt know and if she did know we'd all be fucked. yeah there could be a wing war brewing courtesy of hong lu's evil sister (not xichun the other one). yeah ryoshu's conditioning into a walking concept incinerator/arayashiki wielder is complete and it's likely that the fingers will come to collect her at some point. yeah that wing war? it might turn into the second smoke war depending on certain events, no pressure. oh and that 'present' that hermann was rambling about? yeah. dont want to think about that one too hard. oh and all of whatever else is going on with Ncorp, what with them collecting stray villains like pokemon. and whatever the hell demian's group is up to; we know less about that than even the Ncorp stuff.||

[atomic steeple]

She suspects

[bronze zephyr]

||is ryoshu's arayashiki still a concept incinerator?||

[karmic escarp]

||it's close enough imo||

||and iirc they make a direct comparison to CEs in C9||

[bronze zephyr]

||she used arayashiki on rien after araya became her sheathe and he didnt get erased so thats why im questioning it i think||

[keen palm]

They do, though it seems to be a much more complete version

[bronze zephyr]

ah yes. if all goes. well

[keen palm]

It seems to take more than one cut to erase something completely

[karmic escarp]

||she still has, ahem, the potential to wield it fully. im sure the fingers would concoct some sort of someway to get her to use the complete version as opposed to the one tempered by araya||

[keen palm]

That just ended with the "unhealing permanant wound" normal affect

[bronze zephyr]

mm right

[keen palm]

You just posted that

[stoic fjord]

new line of dialogue

not the same

[karmic escarp]

yes

[stoic fjord]

but yeah MAN was he wrong 😭

[karmic escarp]

no no he was right

'so if all goes well...?'
'it could be the reverse.'

[bronze zephyr]

achieving his potential if things go badly, yeah

[karmic escarp]

and boy howdy did it go wrong!

[bronze zephyr]

i cut apples in half

[karmic escarp]

remember, aim for the-!

ah right the new abno/distortion risk scale
i still dont quite get what the point of the hebrew letter class is if a HE-5 is stronger than a WAW-4. shouldnt that HE just be a WAW then?

ah wait i see
wasnt reading hard enough

HL class is still lobco's energy stuff and the number is what you need to pay attention to for 'is this thing gonna fold me like origami'

[atomic steeple]

Waw and such is a grade of power
The number measures destructive potential/how effective and fast it is at wrecking people

Time ripper is rather dangerous due to their time theft, but is otherwise not very strong

[karmic escarp]

beh, im too meatheaded for that kind of thing

[gentle mulch]

and the game trailer shows a huge population decline in the city

[bronze zephyr]

what's the current population vs what the trailer shows?

oh right its during the trailer

june 985 is only like 4 in game months away

[atomic steeple]

Probably the purge by n corp?

[tired canyon]

although its

probably not that important

i really want to know why the fuck ahab's ego is a almost 1 to 1 recreation of a claw's augments

[bronze zephyr]

oh is it?

[bronze zephyr]

oh wacky

[stoic fjord]

...it is... oddly similar, yes

especially with the bit that's starting to cover her face

[bronze zephyr]

hrm

[karmic escarp]

a subconscious replication of an image of power perhaps?

[atomic steeple]

She had ocs based on claws as a kid

[tired canyon]

thank you binah

[stoic fjord]

fuuuck why couldn't I have gotten FA&S Ryoshu

I want to play tremor sinking in MDE

[cosmic gorge]

The Jerma 985 mass death incident...

[stoic fjord]

https://youtu.be/Gm1lifQhSI8

[ebon forge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International

These fuckers are literally a limbus group

[stoic fjord]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Zg1aWlggE||

canto 8 and 9 spoilers

...sort of?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s32O9rE06PU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq8ER1-ujLw

[stoic fjord]

voice acted dialogue between SL Yi Sang and Funeral of the Dead Butterflies

they have a decent amount of these for limbus afaik

am cooking with this tremor team for MD

[main scaffold]

Why LCA Outis, if we may ask?

[cosmic gorge]

No Everlasting MaoFau?

Lca outis has that juice iirc

Without having to convert tremor

[main scaffold]

Hong Lord can swap her in with his counter

Thyme, Dawnline Shoreman [🔔] ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) No Everlasting MaoFau?

[stoic fjord]

I don't have everlasting

[cosmic gorge]

Fair fair

Makes sense not to have her

[stoic fjord]

this is the best I can do with the units I have

[main scaffold]

(Really wish we had Wu Sang so we could try it out)

[stoic fjord]

the theoretical swaps I can make are uhhhhh

LCCB Ryoshu and T Corp Outis

which

not really feeling it

[cosmic gorge]

I got wusang but i wanna do his special thing with xishmael but my reading energy was spent trying yo make the awryo gunsang combo to work

[stoic fjord]

iirc it's genuinely just getting his S3-2

and then it happens

everything else is passive

iirc

[cosmic gorge]

Oh i see

Team is aight, gonna be some tremor conversion at some point

So that one specific tremor conversion gift whose actual power i forgot about would be useful

Speaking of teams

Im doing an all ammo team with the leveled ammo ids i have
And theres a lot of tremor and sinking in it

[stoic fjord]

iirc you can have a tremor sinking team that hits the 8 with desperado

[cosmic gorge]

Desperado?

But yeah i did do a tremor sinking team befro

Rn i wanted to do an ammo team and was surprised to see the Usual Suspects from my other niche team

[stoic fjord]

new gift that is based on number of ammo IDs

it is quite strong

[cosmic gorge]

Oooh
Tier 4?

[stoic fjord]

yeah

fuse of the uhh

punishing bird thing, radio, and torn bandolier

[cosmic gorge]

Ok i dont think ive seen those first two

Ill need to track em down

[lean fjord]

Beak shaped pendant is the name IIRC

[stoic fjord]

they're in the new walp pack

yeah

beak-shaped pendant, staticky 2-way radio

[cosmic gorge]

OH I HAVE THAT

the pendant

Ill look for te radio when i get grub hunting

Wait i was shouting by accident lol

[stoic fjord]

the 2-way radio is sinking keyword in dusk of orange

is it orange

[lean fjord]

The Alriune fusion in that pack is also pretty nice

[faint pivot]

The final line on the first passive of both state that all skills count as ones that gain charge

[stoic fjord]

ryoshu used her S3 and the background got really dark and isn't going back to normal

what did she do

[cosmic gorge]

She gazed

[main scaffold]

Why's she so good?

Thyme, Dawnline Shoreman [🔔] ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Lca outis has that juice iirc
Without having to convert tremor

[lean fjord]

tanky, reduces enemy coin chances in a clash with passive

[faint pivot]

None of our new Poise units offer Poise support in their kits right?

[faint pivot]

Let's guess who voted for Bad Huan...

Himself, Hong Lu, and Yi Sang

[stoic fjord]

why hong lu and yi sang?

[faint pivot]

Yi Sang votes half cause of logic and half cause he hopes he'll be a better fit for Gubo
Hong Lu followed along

With a shred of pity, I feel

Esp. if this is post-canto

[stoic fjord]

"half because he hopes he'll be a better fit for Gubo" 😭

[main scaffold]

How many more votes do you think he'd get if he took off that EGO gear

[stoic fjord]

maybe 5 or 6 more votes

Ryoshu definitely wears it better

[tired canyon]

Hry wait a minute

[faint pivot]

What about Child in a Flask?

...oh wait

Hmm

[bronze zephyr]

yeah id be shocked if Flask didnt somehow end up as a fau ego

[stoic fjord]

it literally looks like her sinner icon

[bronze zephyr]

yeh

again i wouldnt even be surprised if it was her seasonal

[stoic fjord]

this shit is not subtle 😭

[bronze zephyr]

speaking of chat which sinners have religion as part of their source material themes? Sinclair, Faust, Meur, Rodya?

[stoic fjord]

I feel like it's almost guaranteed it plays an important role

[bronze zephyr]

im trying to assign each aleph to sinners and Apoc WhiteNight and Blue Star are very religious in nature iirc

[faint pivot]

Ryoshu partially, with the uhhh
The story where a spider's thread is sent to hell

[bronze zephyr]

Mm buddism i think, right

[faint pivot]

I'm not sure

[bronze zephyr]

checked, yeah its buddism

adult jester and silent girl are educated guesses from ruina but here's what I've assigned so far

WhiteNight: Paradise Lost Yi Sang
CENSORED: CENSORED Faust
Army In Black: Pink Don
Silent Orchestra: Da Capo Ryoshu
Blue Star: Sound of a Star Meursault
Adult Who Tells Lies: False Throne Hong Lu
Jester of Nihil: Nihil Heathcliff
Melting Love: Adoration Ishmael
Silent Girl: Remorse Rodion
Apoc. Bird: Twilight Sinclair
Mountain of Smiling Bodies: Smile Outis
Nothing There: Mimicry Gregor

[stoic fjord]

iirc Jester technically doesn't exist?

[faint pivot]

If Apo Bird counts Jester does too

[bronze zephyr]

oh does it not, i figured it was more akin to Apoc

[stoic fjord]

like it does but it's a bit like apocalypse bird i guess so actually nvm

[bronze zephyr]

Yeye

[stoic fjord]

it only exists in relation to the magical girls, aiui, so

[faint pivot]

Mhm

[bronze zephyr]

heath and yi sang are the two im least sure on

[stoic fjord]

Army in Black does fit Don but also backer abno 😔

[bronze zephyr]

yeaah same w melting love, but we have Steam Trunk as a Backwards Clock aberration so

[faint pivot]

Close enough

[stoic fjord]

I fw Paradise Lost yi sang though largely because of the vibes more than any actual evidence

[bronze zephyr]

yeah same

[fossil sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QX_BpZqbyg

[fossil sky]

.

[stoic fjord]

wait Adult Who Tells Lies is an ALEPH?

[stoic fjord]

oh hey I sent this to you didn't I

[faint pivot]

Presumably

[bronze zephyr]

not confirmed, its an educated guess based on its position in the supressions

[faint pivot]

Yeah

[stoic fjord]

fair

[faint pivot]

It'd be odd for a capstone Abno to not be Aleph after Netz'

[bronze zephyr]

there's only 9 confirmed alephs i had to fill three gaps loll

silent girl Adult and Jester

[faint pivot]

Actually

[stoic fjord]

...silent girl meursault

[lean fjord]

Silent Girl would be Aleph I think

[bronze zephyr]

N corp...............

[faint pivot]

Hrm

[bronze zephyr]

for sure

[stoic fjord]

though that would put Rodion under Blue Star which ehhhh nah I don't see it

[faint pivot]

So y'know how Wingbeat is a Zayin but a He for Ishmael?

[bronze zephyr]

mm true

[stoic fjord]

mhm

[bronze zephyr]

Gold Rush is WAW but the gear is ALEPH as well

[faint pivot]

Road of Gold is an Aleph

[bronze zephyr]

iirc

yeh

[faint pivot]

Oh it's Gold Rush, mb
But yeah the weapon is Aleph

[bronze zephyr]

true, i went with aleph abnos rather than gear though

[stoic fjord]

Justitia is another ALEPH from a WAW

[faint pivot]

Ahh right

[stoic fjord]

Justitia Meursault and Justitia Hong Lu fighting for my favor inside my head

[faint pivot]

Silent Girl Meursault sells itself imho

[stoic fjord]

actually hrm

maybe Big Bird Hong Lu?

[faint pivot]

Not an Aleph but it flies

[stoic fjord]

Lamp Hong Lu, Justitia Meursault, Beak Don...?

that would fuck as a walp

[faint pivot]

Truke

[stoic fjord]

field all of them to get some sort of apocalypse bird thing

[bronze zephyr]

Feel like if we got a Big Bird EGO it would go to Greg for his Lamp ID

[faint pivot]

[Briah layer Lobotomy Corporation spoilers]
||It'd be amazing if we had 2 of each Bird so that we could merge different Apocalypse Birds. Would fit with Geburah's suppression boon at least!||

[stoic fjord]

I mean with the classic lob corp walp type stuff

[stoic fjord]

lowk I feel like it's not impossible that we get like

a walp that coincides with an anniversary

and they do a mega walp for Apocalypse Bird

or smth

[keen palm]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/5f5fa8995a0a37dfc57df0cc4f3be6dd/af51413d7bc6a43b-1c/s400x600/dc6487e0b2c653310cf7be764e1f5d5264d02db1.gif

[stoic fjord]

am I cooking?

[bronze zephyr]

i wonder what ruina IDs we get next walp, i have no clue at all

[keen palm]

Finn

Calling it now

[stoic fjord]

my current guess, based on the pattern so far, is Shi assoc.

[bronze zephyr]

shi faust upscale ‼️‼️‼️

[stoic fjord]

or Blade Lineage, again (less likely)

[stoic fjord]

since our current IDs have us with urban plague and sotc

but no urban nightmare yet

and shi assoc is recognizable, and probably one of the best for an ID for the sinners

[bronze zephyr]

could get Esther and Hubert if they wanna lean into more Fingers

or Thumb

[stoic fjord]

half these guys don't have faces

a decent amount are random mooks

[bronze zephyr]

Mhm

[stoic fjord]

8 O'clock circus is a duo

[bronze zephyr]

8oclock or Shi are the most likely from Nightmare

ppl have wanted Yujin for a while

[stoic fjord]

I swear we have to get Xiao and Lowell walp at some point

[bronze zephyr]

for sure

[stoic fjord]

Xiao Gregor and Rodion Lowell

trust

or the other way around i dunno

I just feel like they're gonna make it Gregor and Rodion

they fit perfectly into the whole not really being able to be open with your emotions and the "I hurt everyone around me who cares for me"

[bronze zephyr]

The sinners without Ruina IDs are Yi Sang, Faust, Don, Ryoshu and Meur (just got IDs), Outis, and Rodion, I think

Mmm right

I'd like a Faust ID this walp since she hasnt been in a Walp since Walp 1

[stoic fjord]

true

[faint pivot]

Friendly reminder that Allen isn't SotC on his own

The collective of the Night Awls are

[stoic fjord]

fair point

[bronze zephyr]

Udjat Outis also exists in terms of SOTC level sinners

[faint pivot]

You're forgetting Rien Sang

[bronze zephyr]

but similarly shes part of the group

oh yeah

[stoic fjord]

udjat as a collective still but yeah

[faint pivot]

But I'm moreso talking about Ruina IDs

[stoic fjord]

I think we could argue for Lei Sault

[faint pivot]

Hmmm

[stoic fjord]

Hong Lord doesn't, but only because he's the actual head of a wing, imo

so he can't actually be in that ranking

[faint pivot]

I mean he could still be given one

Or rather evaluated through that lens

[stoic fjord]

true

[faint pivot]

Lei Heng's threat rating is hard to assess yeah

[stoic fjord]

I think again it's like... not individually

because, like, yeah, he fucks shit up, but a lot of that is in part due to having all 12 heishou leashes iirc

[faint pivot]

Me omw to put Hong Lord in a fuckass Poisture team with no Heishou:

[cosmic gorge]

Gluttonous ID, hong lord (gobbled up all the canto 8 id concepts and made them heishou)

[faint pivot]

Xishmael and Daishu:

[stoic fjord]

the only place they go is on the heishou team

[bronze zephyr]

Daishu is a Mao Ryo sidegrade anyways

[faint pivot]

Daishu still provides a healthy heaping of Gloom

Even outside the Heishou team

[stoic fjord]

fair

[faint pivot]

And Xishmael provides retreat for Gluttony teams

[stoic fjord]

wait is that why I saw Daishu in a burn team with hong lord

[faint pivot]

The extra Pride would be nice too I believe

[stoic fjord]

wait why the fuck would they even need gloom

I'm lost now

hong lord is doing upsetting amounts of damage on my tremor team

like

bro you are under the effects of zero E.G.O gifts

you're in slot 4

stop doing so much damage

[faint pivot]

Heishou Tremor?

[stoic fjord]

with wu sang

because I'm genuinely so poor on tremor units

[faint pivot]

Ah I see

But hey

It's just 1 Leash

[faint pivot]

You practically beat me to it lmao