Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[faint pivot]

It's never good when you hear "check this out" from a soldier

I also find it funny that he wants to show off even though they'll be using IDs

[fickle crown]

Santata is gonna get kicked in the jolly sack

This was truly a skill replacement moment

[cosmic gorge]

"Mommy Outis said I was a good girl this year, give me my gunplas you boomer or I will unalive you"

[fickle crown]

Also yeah the assortment of gifts I had just...

Well

Let's just say the gnomes were completely doomed

[ebon forge]

see, the funny thing about ishmael probably being adopted and in her twent- killed 666 times

[faint pivot]

Damn the Hohenheim announcer for the stages themselves is pretty keen

[cosmic gorge]

yeah its so funny
Kira is like, maybe around late teens early 20s

but Ishmael has that 30's person energy

[faint pivot]

Pointed out I was on the last round and that I almost didn't make the turn limit

[atomic steeple]

Queer couples in usa used to use adoption so they could count as kin

[ebon forge]

but yeah

[fickle crown]

Also yeah Middle Ish is actually great in burn/bleed once you run a few skill replacements

I do wish her S3 just immediately gave her uptime tho

[faint pivot]

Do I want WIldcliff...

[cosmic gorge]

Book ishmael was pushing late 30s iirc and game Ish is a seasoned fixer who has done various jobs

[ebon forge]

yeah its so fuckin funny to me

mommy outis and her spoiled brat ishmael (30 years old)

[fickle crown]

More like sugar momma Outis

Okay that sounds horrible

[stoic fjord]

Ishmael met another dark-skinned buff woman formerly from the middle and instantly age regressed (not clickbait)

[main scaffold]

Are we sure middle Ishmael is the same age as our Ishmael?

[stoic fjord]

no

not even slightly

it's like the bloodfiend mirror world

the timespan is really fucking weird and we don't know

[atomic steeple]

Apparently, KR version of dialogue has kiramael use millennial slang

[fickle crown]

Outis cucking Queequeg

[atomic steeple]

Ours uses Z gen slang

[stoic fjord]

https://tenor.com/oS8iG0XQXNQ.gif

[cosmic gorge]

early 2000's kiramael

also what poggers said

[faint pivot]

Omfggg

[fickle crown]

I won't, the more I think about this the more fucked it looks

[faint pivot]

Heath's little chuckle

Outie we love you but please slow it down a tad

[stoic fjord]

House of Spiders mirror worlds poses many questions I'm not sure I want answered

[cosmic gorge]

also Ish being in her mid thirties makes her ship and beef with heath funny to me
im pretty sure he's closer to sinclair's age

[faint pivot]

He is 21 yea

[main scaffold]

I love how she also mentions Yi Sang just to rub it in

[faint pivot]

Or wait, he's had a birthday right

[fickle crown]

I'm gonna be real here, Hohenheim is a genuinely smart person, my man is just completely outscaled by two of the City's greatest minds

[atomic steeple]

I love that ryoshu is legit a sheltered young woman that misunderstands modern slang, but gets away with it by acting cool

[faint pivot]

Faung and mr. poisonous potato:

[fickle crown]

Yi Sang is also just

Built wrong I think

In a good way

But also in a really bad way

[atomic steeple]

She's like a confident sinclair

[cosmic gorge]

Hohenheim has social skills which is what makes him a better research leader

[atomic steeple]

Faust would talk to people the minimum necessary then play dark souls

[fickle crown]

I think the other thing is that he's also very aware of the inner workings of LobCorp's equipment and safety features

[main scaffold]

That is one way of describing their relationship

[fickle crown]

And can replicate and improve on all of that to boot

[stoic fjord]

he's in the presence of a genuinely brilliant woman who also has the Council and the guy who made the fucking alt universe viewer

[cosmic gorge]

Fau's social skills are interpolated thru ||her toxic social relationship with her extradminesional Council of Ricks||

[stoic fjord]

then again he himself did like. do a lot of work to reverse engineer Lob Corp shit so like

[cosmic gorge]

which is imo one reason why shes prickly and standoffish

[stoic fjord]

he's not exactly a slacker himself

[main scaffold]

Faust seems like the type of person to never delegate anything if she can help it

Thyme, Dawnline Shoreman [🔔] ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Hohenheim has social skills which is what makes him a better research leader

[fickle crown]

Yeah, that's what I said

[stoic fjord]

yea

[fickle crown]

Also he's a lot more capable of working on the fly it seems

Faust can't even replicate her own machinery and Yi Sang is well

Yi Sang

He's more likely to get depressed over something breaking

[faint pivot]

Wait, she can't replicate Mephi?

[fickle crown]

Yeah, she can't

[stoic fjord]

nope, in large part guided by ||the council, iirc||

[cosmic gorge]

to invoke a malefic presence,
Hohenheim has less Int than Fau and Yisang but more Wisdom and Charisma than the two of them, possibly combined

[stoic fjord]

||she says as much in Spring Cultivation||

[main scaffold]

We learn in spring cultivation that our Faust doesn't entirely know how Mephi works

red_d_terrarian ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Wait, she can't replicate Mephi?

[faint pivot]

Oh right, I forgot about that

[stoic fjord]

he also strikes me as the kind of guy to never make the same thing twice, you feel me? like bro makes things once. maybe he iterates on some designs but otherwise he's an artist who just so happens to also be somewhat of a technological genius

[fickle crown]

And also the intelligence he has (not stats wise I mean from LC) is incredibly valuable for the kind of work he does

Both Faust and Yi Sang would've had to engineer the LCE department from scratch compared to Hohenheim

[karmic escarp]

hoenheim hearing 'if all goes well' and hitting the speedsmile.gif

[fickle crown]

Plus he has a proper understanding of actual EGO maintenance and usage

[stoic fjord]

his ability to disengage, while a defense mechanism and like. unhealthy. also probably makes him fairly good for work like that

where his co-workers might genuinely just get insta-gibbed

he can at the very least compartmentalize it enough to remain fully functional

[fickle crown]

I do wonder if we'll get more Hohenheim appearances later down the line

Because I feel like this isn't the last time we'll see him

[faint pivot]

I sure hope so!

Bro rocks

Alyssa we'll 100% see more of

But I want his little rivalry between Faust to continue

[stoic fjord]

he feels too important. like. I feel like he has parallels to gregor that will be explored more

[fickle crown]

Also Saude better get another promotion soon

[faint pivot]

Or a damn good PTO streak

[stoic fjord]

also the rivalry with faust, him noticing her not doing their usual banter and showing some level of concern, etc.

[faint pivot]

Isn't him being a...what was his IRL title, alchemist? Chemist? Tie him more with Fau?

[stoic fjord]

also true

[stoic fjord]

survivor's guilt hitting craaaazy

it's no coincidence that Gregor got TWO hohenheim IDs

[faint pivot]

Oh true

[fickle crown]

Btw is LCE AEDD EGO Gregor rupture positive?

[fickle crown]

Because I saw some of his numbers

And I am shit at math

[fickle crown]

But I think he can maintain a stack well?

[stoic fjord]

NON HEISHOU RUPTURE RETURNS

trust

[faint pivot]

BEINGS???

Like wait

I just noticed that, huh

Like okay

Ofc how would you talk with them if they weren't beings

But like I thought they were just extensions of their source abnormality and not

Their own thing

[stoic fjord]

tbf, there's like

queen bee minions

[fickle crown]

LC Meursault actually makes note of extracted EGO being kind of its own thing

Because apparently it can mutate and mold itself to fit the user better (known as alteration)

It's why he can make his gun a standard rifle or a shotgun

[faint pivot]

Hah, of course the gear is alive

[atomic steeple]

The ego can speak and corrode people

[fickle crown]

This is actually a crazy ass lore drop

[cosmic gorge]

i got aedd greg while trying to roll for mothfaust a week early
and damn does the sunlight behind him as he offers the POV a cup of coffee make one feel things lmao

[faint pivot]

...wait

[stoic fjord]

"oh yeah btw E.G.O gear can highkey change and evolve and reach more full completion like manifested E.G.O"

[faint pivot]

LobCorp??

[stoic fjord]

and then they don't elaborate

[faint pivot]

This is LobCorp right

[fickle crown]

Yep

Hornet Meursault

[faint pivot]

And this is a researcher speaking?

[stoic fjord]

it's Meursault's new Walp ID

[faint pivot]

"Like real E.G.O."

[fickle crown]

It's from his passive, but I think this is from a member of the Info Team

[faint pivot]

As in the stuff Angela herself wasn't aware of manifesting??

[stoic fjord]

...didn't The Red Mist manifest it pre-lob corp?

[faint pivot]

Hang on I need to crack open a Ruina cutscene real quick

[faint pivot]

I'm talking about her comment on Philip manifesting EGO

[stoic fjord]

ohhhhhh

[main scaffold]

Kali was just built different

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) ...didn't The Red Mist manifest it pre-lob corp?

[faint pivot]

And yeah she did

She is also in fact built different

[stoic fjord]

okay is this a lore error

[fickle crown]

While Wonderlab was decanonized, I think that's actually the earliest we've ever seen EGO alteration (though the type seen was much greater in magnitude)

[stoic fjord]

or is this something that can be reconciled

[faint pivot]

Checking that rn

[fickle crown]

I think she manifested it before LC became a proper wing and you can see her version of Mimicry undergoes alterations due to her own EGO influencing it

[gentle mulch]

something that makes sense already and what could plausibly have been figured out on its own; really happy it's codified in writing

[stoic fjord]

true

[fickle crown]

I think what makes this more interesting is that it explains why our extracted EGO is so different. We're just witnessing a much rawer and less controlled version of EGO alteration

[gentle mulch]

like "hi im carmen ego kinda sucks because that means if your heart changes, your ego willl also change and potentially break." reverse engineered to "your ego already dormant in you as a person can change the hearts of the ego around you as you are wearing and convincing a piece of a heart of another to be wielded by you instead of the other way around"

[fickle crown]

Mhm

[gentle mulch]

genuinely like. really neat

[atomic steeple]

It's like taking and personalizing personas from the sea of humanity in the persona series

[faint pivot]

Ah, it's the first time she saw real E.G.O. manifest like that

She could've also still been in development when Kali went kaput

[fickle crown]

Tbf this was also during the very beginning of the distortion phenomenon being a widespread thing and EGO manifestation was probably even rarer

[gentle mulch]

whats the topic on this?

[faint pivot]

Effloresced EGO

And how it's referenced in Hornet Meursault's UT story

[gentle mulch]

ah

i dont know hornet's story

[faint pivot]

Oh wait dammit

Angela was around for Kali

[main scaffold]

Ayin wasn't even thinking of building her until after everyone died AWUI

red_d_terrarian ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) She could've also still been in development when Kali went kaput

[faint pivot]

Yeah but Carmen was around for Kali

[faint pivot]

Anyway she knows Effloresced EGO is a thing

She just didn't know how it's 'bestowed' or 'made'

Up until Philip at least

[main scaffold]

Oh right she has Carmen's memories doesn't she

red_d_terrarian ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Yeah but Carmen was around for Kali

[faint pivot]

Mhm

[stoic fjord]

iirc the Ruina page for phillip is incomplete/unstable E.G.O

[faint pivot]

It is

[stoic fjord]

I wonder what it would have looked like if it fully manifested

[faint pivot]

Hah

[stoic fjord]

what if bro locked in

[faint pivot]

Unfortunately we'll never know for sure

It'd 100% have flight though

[stoic fjord]

nah trust he got better

[keen palm]

I mean we might

[atomic steeple]

Second philipclair id

[stoic fjord]

||unbooked and locked the fuck in to aura farm||

[faint pivot]

OH RIGHT

[keen palm]

He's not dead

[faint pivot]

pleasepleasepleaseplease

[keen palm]

Does this cheapen Ruina

[faint pivot]

I should really finish Ruina lmao

[keen palm]

that no one actually dies during it

[faint pivot]

No

[atomic steeple]

Carmen slamming her fist on the ground

[stoic fjord]

imo no

there's very real effects, still

[faint pivot]

They still fought with the (un)awareness that they're dying for a cause

And yeah

[stoic fjord]

and it's not like it has no weight

[atomic steeple]

Also the ensemble dies

[bronze zephyr]

I think the

yeah

[stoic fjord]

wait what

NOOOOOOO
PHILLIPPPPPPP

[faint pivot]

Oh

Dang

[stoic fjord]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

[atomic steeple]

Philip distortion went on a killing spree

[faint pivot]

I should really finish Ruina LMAO

[fickle crown]

If anything it's led to more drama for the victims and those investigating the Library and its victims

[atomic steeple]

Granted there were two philip books

Since he can divide

[stoic fjord]

https://tenor.com/ZSnlSKWMsK.gif

[stoic fjord]

TRUE

[fickle crown]

If Philip exists within modern Limbus, he's likely a broken amnesiac

[stoic fjord]

WE'RE SO BACK

[atomic steeple]

Only one part of him joined the ensemble

[stoic fjord]

||FULL E.G.O PHILLIP INBOUND||

||ICARUS UPSCALE||

[stoic fjord]

fuck.

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dampsausage772-emporershmingleblorp-idgafwar-falling-gif-700044825151028376

[fickle crown]

Remember that the part that did die probably took a good chunk of his memories with it

[faint pivot]

True, but we have an example of an amnesiac retaining her EGO

A, haha, most unfortunate and terrible example

[stoic fjord]

..?

[faint pivot]

(Briah core suppression) ||Gebura||

[cosmic gorge]

Harry duBois Phillip....

[faint pivot]

She's yet to fully recover them at that point of LC iirc

Or at least, I assume that the point of every core suppression was to joggle people's memories back into the right spots and stop them from going nuts

[atomic steeple]

His senior as the dora equivalent

[faint pivot]

By the by

It's interesting that Ishy still sees herself as a harpoon, as a weapon

This may just be her sailor eccentricities kicking in cause the convo is about her being a dull harpoon according to Ryo but

Referring to yourself by your ability to harm seems pretty common among Fixers

God

I need a sinner sounds compilation playlist

I thought DonQui was way up there but Heath Ishy and Outie are catching up rather quickly

[atomic steeple]

Hm??? Don't get it

For anyone playing along: if attempting to 1-loop the game, it is of VITAL IMPORTANCE that the lower layer be opened in either a 3-2 or 2-3 overall combination. If we don't do this, we can permanently lock ourselves out of being able to complete the game without a full restart from day 1.

Next time, on Lobotomy Corporation: Breaking our stuff to appease the creepy goth lady living in our basement.

[faint pivot]

Aha: thank you, let's player, for mentioning the Atziluth Trap

If I hadn't taken a peek at the PMoon discord I wouldn't have known nothing about this

[bronze zephyr]

oh wild

[faint pivot]

Gimme a sec

[stoic fjord]

what... what happens if you don't do the combination?

[faint pivot]

#775962164342423563 message

Here's what it means @stoic fjord @atomic steeple

Tl;dr: you aren't given enough days to expand Records & Extraction in time to Suppress both of them before you're locked out from either one

By the start of day 41 you have to have both layers at 3 expansion points, so that you can get one to 5, complete day 43, suppress that department by 44, then MemRep to suppress the other department

[stoic fjord]

oh okay so it just doesn't matter if you don't care about finishing everything in 1 loop

[gentle mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECNAbYot8Qw

so. getting a free copy of lobcorp and ruina is not part of the PJM employee package. tsk tsk tsk

[faint pivot]

If you don't wanna suppress both Atziluth layers in one loop yeah you can restart from day 1 for the other department's core suppression

[stoic fjord]

highkey not even that

[gentle mulch]

it's kinda funny that sinclair's va is like "yeah i bought it on sale and i got magic bullet because i made a wrong choice so i stopped playing lobcorp for now" LIKE EVEN THE VAs DONT WANT IT 😭

[faint pivot]

Tbf unless that friend was similarly a sicko I'd feel like sentencing someone to torture by gifting them LobCorp

[faint pivot]

Ayeup LMAO

[gentle mulch]

yuuuup

game to gift if you HATE someone 😈

[bronze zephyr]

my friend gave it to me lolll

[main scaffold]

...shouldn't these be done before we fight a dozen peccatulum?

[bronze zephyr]

im enjoying myself a lot, though i havent done tiph supression yet

[bronze zephyr]

LMAO

[atomic steeple]

Do I buy lobotomy corporation?

[bronze zephyr]

Do you like hard management games?

[faint pivot]

Do you find it appealing to juggle maintaining a status quo with a discovery process with death on the line alongside developing your staff

[atomic steeple]

Probably not

[stoic fjord]

my friend who got me into PMoon gifted me lob corp first

it was my first game

[faint pivot]

Aura, honestly

[bronze zephyr]

i kinda wish id played lobcorp then ruina then limbus

[stoic fjord]

I haven't played a management sim before Lob Corp

so I was genuinely fighting the final boss at level 1

my first Noon of Violet instantly killed everyone

they do not tell you shit during this game man

[faint pivot]

The discovery process is all FAFO I forgot to mention, yea

[stoic fjord]

I hear the meat crunch sound and then see a billion pop-ups from all the sephirah

I sigh and hit retry day

that just how it be

[faint pivot]

Your lessons will be at the cost of either employee death or a day lost to the TimeTrack

[atomic steeple]

Tylana Oh, new girl. You were assigned here, not Training?

Dimi: Well, I was going to be in Training with the rest of them, but after talking with the bosses they decided that I was just too advanced for their standard courses. They put me here so you could teach me everything about what the Central Command leader really does around here. Don't get too upset, but I think they might want me to have your job later. Just the sense I got?

Tylana: Ah. You're the one for Woodsman duty. Welcome to the team. We'll try helping you out when we can.

Dimi: Well thank you! I do appreciate it, though it's best you not strain yourself. This Woodsman must be something that requires a special brand of employee to deal with.

Tylana: Yeah, it sure does. :rolleyes:

Hm lob corp might be too stressful for me atm

[main scaffold]

I... see

[faint pivot]

This one must not be very Prudent

[faint pivot]

It's funny that the madame who thinks herself a fraud is drawn to the EGO gear from a fraud

...unless I've misunderstood ABM

How does Don's VA just Do That

[main scaffold]

Do what?

[faint pivot]

Yes

Be Don, I mean

Like unmistakably Don Quixote

[main scaffold]

Oh

I dunno but it's very cool that she can

[faint pivot]

Not to mention her range

[atomic steeple]

I just recently remembered someone made a homebrew of Nothing There for Cain rpg

[fickle crown]

Being very high energy in the booth

Iirc she stated she'll excitedly wave her arms around and stuff when voicing Don

[faint pivot]

That's awesome ngl

[faint pivot]

Happen to have it on you?

Speaking of Don holy shit

Wei Don just fucking

Audibly charges away in her EX-clear line

[atomic steeple]

https://maboi000.itch.io/cain-leba-association
Look for husk

It's a monster from identity and dissociation trauma

Huh
trying to download right now

Since I had only checked development pics on the discord

I can't?

Anyone tried?

[faint pivot]

I downloaded the rar just fine

For tose interested

[main scaffold]

Question: is Heathcliff's fell bullet ego any good? It seems kinda bad

[faint pivot]

With two of the three MD EGO-based gifts it procs it hurts but otherwise yea it's just a clashing tool with a bit of Sinking

On FS Heath you're probably getting a refund if you use it as a finisher but

It's single target

So

Here's hoping that it'll get TS5

[atomic steeple]

Cool, ain't it?

I think it would also commonly manifest in people who have to hide/repress being a minority

[stoic fjord]

I think in MD specifically it's solid but otherwise not good

[stoic fjord]

oh that's deadass just Nothing There lmao

[cosmic gorge]

i wanna run CAIN or play it again

[stoic fjord]

same

[faint pivot]

I appreciate it isn't the only Husk that can be tbh

False Hydra is Right There after all

[keen palm]

god

https://i.imgur.com/D1xkx1s.png

this line delivery

is so insane

[main scaffold]

...wait you can go into negative EGO resources by overclocking an EGO?

[faint pivot]

Yep

[atomic steeple]

Nothing there and Right there

[atomic steeple]

Never seen that before

[faint pivot]

Instead of attempting to evade attention it tries to be in the spotlight

[keen palm]

Don and Yi Sang being envy is kinda weird

neither of them are particularly themed on envy

[faint pivot]

Someone here mentioned that instead of envying, they are those who are envied

[main scaffold]

Also we are learning that poise is might be the best status for wave fights, you don't need to care about status build up if you just do all the build up on yourself

[faint pivot]

Yi Sang being the inventor of the Mirror and DQ being La Manchaland's 'chosen'

[faint pivot]

Charge is catching up quickly with AEDDgor's free AoE but aye

[atomic steeple]

I think that's why hohenheim did the experiment
To see specific interactions the characters have with sins

[faint pivot]

Poise has the most Assist attacks and Renclair's AoE is nuts

[keen palm]

Having to retry the envy pec's 2 twice now

[atomic steeple]

Yi sang is mostly depression and inertia, but he probably envies other more sociable and active people

[keen palm]

because Yi Sang hit all heads 4 times in a row

all TAILS

sorry

not a single heads

[faint pivot]

Which Yi Sang

[cosmic gorge]

if you take Envy using Limbus' unique interpretation of it

Envy as a friction between people

may fit

[atomic steeple]

Don aspires to be like renowned fixers, and experienced friction eith her family and humans

[keen palm]

8 TIMES?

IN A RROW??????

[faint pivot]

Voy what did you do to your Limbus

[keen palm]

fucking christ

[faint pivot]

Hum

Hohenheim

Overestimating his lab

Underestimating the mess going on

I wonder why that feels like it's happened twice...

[stoic fjord]

"nothing could possibly be worse than lob corp"

[faint pivot]

(Talking about Price of Curiosity and that moment in canto 9 where he ||gawks at the Udjat clearing house only for Rien to swoop in||)

[faint pivot]

Oh yeah, thrice then

[stoic fjord]

no like

I'm making a joke that that's why he does that

[faint pivot]

Ah mb

Going through it rn

And by it I mean the damn blood-soaked walls of this laboratory holy shit

[keen palm]

Don sounds younger this intervallo somehow

[faint pivot]

Que?

[main scaffold]

Aroma Ryoshu and Night Awl Gregor's constant assist attacks do help though

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Also we are learning that poise is might be the best status for wave fights, you don't need to care …

[faint pivot]

It might be because the stakes are lower

So she's bursting with energy more often

...lmao, she also technically is considering this is a past event

[keen palm]

Alsoo

can someone find me a specific fanart

there's a bit someone drew of Hong Lu smushing his face against the glasss

during his test

[cosmic gorge]

cat lu

[faint pivot]

ME WANT

PLEASE

[cosmic gorge]

very cat of you

[faint pivot]

Please tell me someone can fish that up that line made me cackle

[cosmic gorge]

not the best when you have Index IDs

2B faust im so sorry you keep getting killstealed noooo

[faint pivot]

Ngl I'm kinda doubting Hohenheim was a HQ agent now that I'm seeing this scene again

[stoic fjord]

oh yeah there's genuinely no way for him to have been

given the lore

it's just that he has E.G.O gear from a HQ abno which was interesting to me

[keen palm]

I also always imagined when Don takes the shoes off that Yi Sang almost immediately gets splattered on the viewing glass

[lean fjord]

if you don't have enough resources, it does stay Indiscriminate though IIRC

[faint pivot]

Two HQ Abnos

[faint pivot]

Yeah that's unstable overclock

The overclock stamp is at the top of the screen still but it's modified and red

Not to be confused with OverClock, aka the loss-when-you-win effect that applies when you take 100 turns or more to beat a node

[faint pivot]

I feel like nothing is absolute enough but like

The boundaries of his expectations are far too low for someone who'd (probably) seen an Aleph abnormality by now (as an HQ Agent I mean)

[faint pivot]

He seemingly just gets pushed back rather than flung

[stoic fjord]

yeah, the highest level abno they have in LC HQ is a WAW

[faint pivot]

Wait huh

[stoic fjord]

LC

[faint pivot]

Which HQ, LCE?

[stoic fjord]

LCE

[faint pivot]

Ah lmao

[stoic fjord]

yeah

[main scaffold]

T Outis I am begging you to stop getting you S3 in the bottom slot on the first turn, this is the fourth luxcavation in a row you've done this

Apparently tremor teams are extremely good at spreading faint aroma and giving Ryoshu 15 petals a turn

[stoic fjord]

indeedly doo

[main scaffold]

(Wishing we grinded for Regret Faust during walpurgisnacht, her + 🎴 + Aroma Ryoshu + Night Awl Gregor would be really fun for wave fights)

[faint pivot]

Damn these bloods got hands

[keen palm]

I also do like

[faint pivot]

I could probably trivialize this with a retreating team but fuck it we ball

[keen palm]

how a running gag in this series is that Researchers are another class of person entirely

like PJM's version of Wizard

[faint pivot]

Series?

[keen palm]

PJM in general

[faint pivot]

I only noticed it in Limbus, though I like it too yea

[main scaffold]

So why do the LCE have a set of hoodies themed after Dante/the Limbus Company Bus department?

[keen palm]

Branding

[cosmic gorge]

They turned our manager Dant into a marketable mascot lmaao

[main scaffold]

He almost got to but was interrupted by Ishmael 😔

Voy the Nelson Boy ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Heath needs to be able to call someone a cunt at least once this game

I love this joke

[gentle mulch]

me too

especially the doormat part since as soon as dante says anything she lies down in reverence

[keen palm]

The Ryoshu guitar keeps jumpscaring me

[gentle mulch]

same

i always check my tabs to see which one i have unpaused

[ebon forge]

which line is that again?

[keen palm]

The one where she goes "where's my applause?"

[faint pivot]

3rd tried the price of curiosity

Hoof

[keen palm]

ALSO

:C

Where's the luxcavation waves

[lean fjord]

gonna wait until next week to do the event I think

once I can dispense the new stuff

[faint pivot]

Fucking WORTH IT

GOD

The Hierarchy is so peam

The collective SP damage the Researchers at "exceptions" is so wonderful

The VAs do such good jobs man

[bronze zephyr]

don's mouth looks bloody here and i find that funny

[fickle crown]

I was fighting Hohenheim earlier

Ngl Heathcliff was uh

Unkillable lmao

Genuinely godlike assortment of gifts I had at the end

Also gloom peccatula when they end up in a negative ID solo lmao

[main scaffold]

Sinclair how the fuck did you stagger a stage 3 wrath peccatulum with a level 1 Harmony

[bronze zephyr]

my goat

[lean fjord]

Renclair just too based

[fickle crown]

His humble self is simply that good

[lean fjord]

btw, how's this Hohenheim Greg looking for team potential?

he does have Photoelectric, so potential in Charge?

[fickle crown]

Potential in charge but he also benefits from faction synergy if you'd rather shoot for that

[bronze zephyr]

Im planning to replace my reindeer hongler w AEDD Greg

maybe i should grab the ego?

eh

[fickle crown]

He also benefits from using AEDD actually

Yes, this ID has inbuilt EGO synergy

[faint pivot]

He'd serve as a better damage dealer thanks to the AoE and he also doubles as a pretty good tank

Not to mention photoelectricity, ofc

[fickle crown]

Also Sunshower Heath popping off on the second floor was fucking hilarious

900% damage

[faint pivot]

I forgot that Hohenheim knows about the Library too

[lean fjord]

It was pretty public

Or do you mean how it worked internally?

[faint pivot]

Its jig I mean, yea

Ironic that Heathcliff is brandishing a bat with "REMEMBER" in Hohenheim's censored dungeon

[fickle crown]

I think that grief is exactly why Hohenheim made Heathcliff his assistant tbh

[faint pivot]

Fascinating how the censored level 3 agents have a passive called "Lantern"

Yet their gear is nothing like either Faelantern nor Meat Lantern gear

Hm, I suppose it's closer to the latter

But the teeth are in the wrong places, and some inflict Bleed and SP damage of all things

[fickle crown]

I think it's both a mix of bad memory and the fact it's clearly some sort of meat lantern aberration

[stoic fjord]

I'd say less bad memory and moreso him actively suppressing it

[main scaffold]

RYOSHU NO

[quartz sun]

So question. Is Limbus like disconnected from LobCorp and Ruina outside of being in the same world?

[fickle crown]

Kind of

A lot of PM's works are connected enough for players of the previous games to get certain references but still introduce enough new material and have enough context given for newer players to know what's going on

Limbus is more about the wider world of the City as a whole though

So no prior experience is really needed

[lean fjord]

it is a sequel, but we don't often deal directly with stuff that happened during Ruina

[uneven canopy]

if anything its more following up on the PJM literature

[main scaffold]

Explaining anything to Don Quixote: imagine a fixer

[main scaffold]

Anyway, time for hell
If Sancho 2 was so good why isn't there a Sancho 3OH GOD THERE'S A SANCHO 3

[cosmic gorge]

Its chronologically the latest in the setting

After lobcorp comes ruina
After the events of ruina comes limbis

[bronze zephyr]

LobCorp and Ruina are kind of plot relevant but mostly tangentially

[faint pivot]

For now, at least

[faint pivot]

LobCorp is relevant to Limbus via its:

1. General concept as an energy company ran on Abnormalities (some of the 'dungeon crawls' happen within its branches across the City)
2. Status as an ex-Wing
3. Singularity and related tech (the Golden Boughs, most primarily, E.G.O. gear following behind)

Ruina is relevant to Limbus through:

1. The Distortion phenomenon
2. Effloresced, aka Manifested, E.G.O.
3. Establishing a large swath of the City that Limbus cuts through & intersects with on occasion (the most recent Limbus antagonists, the Index, are introduced and fleshed out in Ruina)
4. Tangentially, mentions of events that occur during the game & the Library itself

Lmao

The LCE Research Team announcer is fun

1. Alyssa, I didn't think one could use 'hiney' without losing aura
2. Marton covering for Alyssa & Hohenheim after the two get into a debate over what to do to a Staggered enemy
3. Hohenheim being punchable in his own unique way
   Our 'abort' button being referenced is funky but still nice

[main scaffold]

…y-yeah, sure

[faint pivot]

Y e a h

Like

She herself suspects it too

[minor gust]

i give up man, on lob corp and ruina

[faint pivot]

Why else would she pointedly ask Fau and Dante

[minor gust]

i cannot finish lob

and im stuck at urban nightmare

im not good at this games lol

[faint pivot]

Taking a break is fine

[minor gust]

story is good though

[faint pivot]

Aye

[faint pivot]

These games aren't exactly the type that respect skill either

[lean fjord]

Nightmare is a big spike in difficulty

[faint pivot]

Randomness in a card game is fine, but in the conflict resolution too? Oof

[split beacon]

Nightmare is, depending on your sensibilities in gaming

[lean fjord]

As is as Star after that too

[minor gust]

cant even finish malkuths mission to do the noon i think?

[split beacon]

Either where the game gets REALLY hard

Or where it becomes an actual video game

[lean fjord]

What are you stuck on?

[faint pivot]

That's none of your fault I believe, Noons are rough on your first go

[lean fjord]

There is randomness, but with good builds the game is relatively consistent

[minor gust]

let me just say....the phases

[faint pivot]

Honestly I just skipped past the missions until like

[minor gust]

why

7

[faint pivot]

Oh the uhhh

Realizations?

[lean fjord]

Ah, Crying Children?

[minor gust]

im still stuck at knight of despair

limbus is way easier

[faint pivot]

Yeah the prequels fit JKH's advice to take breaks better

[minor gust]

and i have at least control there instead of rng fucking me over the cards

[lean fjord]

If you're in Nightmare you should be able to get Kim, and he should fairly easily be able to clash the swords

[minor gust]

one day i suppose ill return

but for now

lol

[faint pivot]

They'll always be there

[minor gust]

illfocus on limbus

[faint pivot]

That's a good shout yea

[minor gust]

my favorite aleph is blue star surpsingly

[faint pivot]

Honestly same

[minor gust]

i like the ego equipment and dseign

[faint pivot]

The weapon is perfect

[minor gust]

second is nothing there and third despite giving me nothing but misery is msob

[faint pivot]

Ranged? AoE? Stops my people from not being my people? Hell yea

[faint pivot]

I respect liking Mt. Misery itself

[minor gust]

was hella suspicious of army in pink because of the boxes needed

zayin my ass

[faint pivot]

Ah

No wonder LobCorp's been giving you hell

Just one of either was already a pain, I'm never taking both at once

[lean fjord]

Its an Aleph disguised as a Zayin

[minor gust]

i shoudl restart day one again i suppose

[split beacon]

MOSB is a bastard

[minor gust]

ego equipment gets backagain right?

[faint pivot]

...granted it's still pretty hellish even without the Death Sensitive abnormalities but it's worse alright

[minor gust]

my worst choice is having queen bee and msob in same dept

and when queen bee e broke opujt

[faint pivot]

When restarting from day 1 or MemRep you retain:

1. EGO gear
2. Completed Missions
3. Research & other benefits

[minor gust]

yeah

that was anightmare

[split beacon]

This is one of the most catastrophic cohabitations ever

[faint pivot]

Say, have you unlocked Execution Bullets from Disciplinary?

[split beacon]

The only thing worse is having Big Bird and Queenie dapp up

[minor gust]

also what waw would you recommned to do geburahs missions?

[minor gust]

yep

im at geburah there already

farthest i got was binah

[faint pivot]

I did mine with QoH but only because I hadn't unlocked Exec Bullets yet

If I had the luxury of choice...

[split beacon]

Speaking of the dapp up

We now have the team of true evil

Queen of Hatred Don Quixote alongside Lamp Gregor

[faint pivot]

RIGHHHTTT

[minor gust]

ill resdtarct later

[faint pivot]

DAMNNN

Jesus

[minor gust]

oits weird i havent got big bird yet

[faint pivot]

What a terrible Mirror World

[faint pivot]

It's random tbf

[split beacon]

Nah nah

big bird Greg is LCE

[faint pivot]

If it's of any solace, at least you now know for sure what to not take

[split beacon]

Not L Corp

[faint pivot]

His E.G.O. is LobCorp E.G.O.

[minor gust]

what i reallly wish for lob corp

[faint pivot]

The ID says it there

[minor gust]

is customizatiosn dont cost stuff

is there a mod ofrit

[faint pivot]

Yep

[minor gust]

like please let me customize without payinh

[faint pivot]

And the mod manager is plug and play

Lemme dig it up

[faint pivot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/lobotomycorporation/mods/443

Not only can you customize nuggets for free, you can customize the ones you've already hired, as many times as you want

[split beacon]

yeah because he's wearing a salvaged suit from L Corp

but gregenheim is an LCE employee

[faint pivot]

I'd have installed this one myself if I knew my dainty heart could handle my people losing their heads, so I salute your efforts, soldier

[split beacon]

so him and queenie don can never exist in the same place in the same timeline

and cause the breachening

[faint pivot]

Wouldn't they have had to have Big Bird in the first place to extract the gear?

Like we don't know what the final HQ looks like

[split beacon]

we do not but we know that the canon LCHQ of Limbus Company's prime timeline had Big Bird and extracted Lamp EGO gear from it

[minor gust]

are there any mods i should know that dose tn change gaemplay but, rather fixes anything?

like bugs or anything

[faint pivot]

Many, actually

Give me a bit

[split beacon]

because the real Hohenheim has the Lamp EGO gear, made by Lobotomy Corp. HQ's extraction department and salvaged for use later during Spider Pyre

[faint pivot]

I'm not really seeing how this equates to the final facility not having QoH either

[split beacon]

it doesn't, what it equates to is that Hohenheim never wore that at LCHQ

[faint pivot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/lobotomycorporation/mods/50

This isn't the only broken Research Project by the by

[minor gust]

did the lore imply that main branch abnomalities get transferred sometimes out of the main branch? cause i nver reallyknwe, i knew thatg sub branches have different abnormalities and employees get out

[faint pivot]

This is just the only one that has a fix

[faint pivot]

Nay

[split beacon]

anyways the point is

there is no Lobotomy Corporation HQ timeline Gregor yet

so the Gregor wearing the death-sensitive Abnormality gear and the Don Quixote wearing death-sensitive Abnormality gear cannot dapp up and cause The Breach Of 87

[faint pivot]

Not with that attitude
Sends Don into Queenie Corrosion

All 7 Weight are sent at the rest of the sinners

[faint pivot]

I almost forgot that Dream of a Black Swan was death-sens

Good thing I didn't pick it

So glad to be free of my first facility with 4 of the 6 death-sens Abnos

[minor gust]

wouldnt be funny if theresa mod for lob corp where don alwyas suceeds inqoh

[faint pivot]

If only, if only...

Anyways found that spreadsheet

[faint pivot]

This sheet is pretty comprehensive, there's other types of mods on there too

[faint pivot]

Alriune and Snow White's Apple are pretty decent to handle

Former is simpler to fight (caveat is it teleports faster) and gives good ranged gear, while the latter is a Justice trainer with real nice armor that also makes hallways take longer to cross for the rest of the Day (teleports too but slower)

[minor gust]

how does crumbling armor work?

i dont get what repression does

but attachment is a no go

[faint pivot]

The broad strokes are in the managerial tips but its effect in depth is that it ||gives an EGO gift that gradually trades Fort. for Justice||

This ||gift starts as a plain Justice boost that's +10 to both stats, then takes 5 HP away on the Agent's first Repression work on any Abnormality. The 3rd Repression work they conduct adds 5 to all three values (+15 Move & Attack speed, -10 HP).|| The ||4th sets its bonuses to +20 Move & Attack speed, -20 HP.||

[atomic steeple]

There's a hod x nothing there in tiffany's body fanfic

[cosmic gorge]

Tiffany?

Tiphereth?

[atomic steeple]

Tiffany is an employee

Hod gives her counseling but she dies

Next time, on Lobotomy Corporation: Breaking our stuff to appease the creepy goth lady living in our basement.

[faint pivot]

Is Hong Lu the only sinner wearing the whole uniform?

[atomic steeple]

Naked nest
Talow I gave it a shot. If I turn green or whatever, just kill me real quick.

Switch ...isn't that a little extreme?

Talow It's fine, probably won't happen.

[faint pivot]

Canto 9 spoilers, but found an awesome 3d modeler
||https://youtu.be/vT5tUCCRmpo?si=7wHsJ9meFBw6YsrF||

[lean fjord]

Someone else also does, but I forget who

Might be Sinclair?

[atomic steeple]

Hokma: It's of vital importance that I review all the activity which has gone on in this place. Through it, I can almost see the contours of your hands in the way you guide these agents.

X: I've actually been mostly letting them do their own thing, emergencies aside.

Hokma: ...pardon?

X: Yeah. They know their duties. No reason to micromanage everything.

Angela: Manager, there is a situation which requires your attention in Disciplinary.

Tenebrais: Hey, manager! One of the clerks went into Parasite Tree's containment before we could stop 'em!

Hokma: And this is something they know to call you for?

Execution bullet

X: I'm allowed to do a few things they aren't.

Hokma: Ah… decisive. Very good.

Bro hokma is so happy to meet this manager

Hokma: Now then… I also noticed a lack of engagement with our TT2 protocol. You expect me to believe that you've only rewound a handful of times? How did you accomplish this?

X: Oh, that. Well, I trust the people to do what they do. Like, watch this.

[faint pivot]

Never a good time when someone with time travel goes "watch this"

[stoic fjord]

Hokma has apparently been watching me get stuck at day 36 trying to finish the Disciplinary core suppression and having the 4 ALEPHs in my facility breach like 10 times now

I think he's just waiting for me to just reset to day 1

[atomic steeple]

Medea: You were fast with that weapon, T.

T. Hinman: It was much like the light plasma cannons I was familiar with at my previous, very human, job.

X: You see? They know their job, and they're strong.

Hokma: But without you, they're nothing. You should be using them as tools.

X: Yeah, that got me punched in the face.

Hokma: You what?!

X: I got punched in the face. It kind of hurt. Nothing to worry about now, though.

Hokma: But… who could do such a thing!

X: Employees, man. They'll surprise you.

[faint pivot]

Angela decided to do something funny this loop, I see

[atomic steeple]

Hokma: So you leave everything to the nattering of your agents, but you still manage to defeat things like that Bird and the Midnight of Violet by simply… trying?

Hokma is tweaking

[stoic fjord]

X: Yep! Sounds about right!

[faint pivot]

We love seeing the old man tweak

[atomic steeple]

The most cracked loop is the one with the funny manager abd organized chaos

[stoic fjord]

I wish my employees were competent instead of getting themselves killed constantly

[faint pivot]

Unfortunately Madam I think X is just being humble here 😔

[atomic steeple]

Clerk affected by parasite tree: Miss Tenebrais! I'm so glad to be in your department, and now that I've been blessed I can do anything! Please, if there's anything I can handle you only need to ask!

Tenebrais: Then can you drop dead?

Clerk: Drop dead..? Oh! I see! I understand! The blessing isn't for us lower life forms, and having it doomed me! That's gotta be it, right?

Tenebrais: ...Sure, let's go with that.

Clerk: Then there's nothing to lose! Quickly, manager! Quickly! Do it!

Hokma: ...and what is that all about, exactly?

X: I have no idea. This place is weird.

[atomic steeple]

Hokma So you have no additional insights. Then answer me this: Who punched him?

Talow No idea, but I have a new hero.

Hokma ...Then this entire conversation is irrelevant.

Hokma is losing it while Binah is happy

This is about the point in the game where players have hit their stride, and your normal days are basically just 20-30 minutes of farming Abnormalities for stats and energy.

Aw, the lper picked melting live over censored

[cosmic gorge]

You can(not) resist the Totally Innocuous Slime Girl

[atomic steeple]

summary: So Hokma is B... That's a thing. Also he's old now and at some point he died and we shoved him into a robot like everyone else here. This leads to a LOT of questions about the events of days 11-20, none of which I have any answers for. Add all of this to the pile of [It's a mystery], I guess.

[minor gust]

holy shit i managed to finally do the damn dusk

also fuck me 3 different meltdowns??

[atomic steeple]

X: Angela we're expanding Binah again.

Angela: Is something the matter, A?

X: Ehhh… It's more that I can at least figure out where I stand with that one? Hokma is just… There's some baggage and I don't want to deal with it right now.

Angela: I would remind you that Binah is responsible for the destruction of our old facility.

X: Yeah, but... I'm kind of used to crazy homicidal feelings in my direction? Hokma's just… weird.

Angela: Very well, A. As you wish.

Next time, on Lobotomy Corporation: Tiphereth tries to kill Tiphereth because she's an AI and he keeps crashing.

Does this mean I am cheating? Probably. On the other hand, I'm going to endgame with a facility that has Parasite Tree and -109 in it, so what else could the game possibly throw at me?

[faint pivot]

Of which kind

Qlipoth?

[minor gust]

sephirtoh malkuth, hod and yesod

im doing malkuths righnt now

[faint pivot]

Ahhh, the Sephirah Meltdowns!

Good luck

[minor gust]

how come it hasnt ended yet

quotas been filled

[faint pivot]

And please, do keep at it if you plan on restarting
You keep these post-restart

[atomic steeple]

Melting love management

Tylana: Did you just kill two people?!

X: Four.

[faint pivot]

Each Suppression has unique clear conditions

Malk's is

[stoic fjord]

You need to go to meltdown level 10

[faint pivot]

HUH

[stoic fjord]

Iirc

[faint pivot]

That's not Malkuth's

Thank fuck it's not Malkuth's LMAO

[stoic fjord]

...I swear it was a universal one?

Maybe that was Hod?

Or Netzach?

Yesod?

[stoic fjord]

I don't fuckin remember i just remember facing my first Dusk during a core suppression

[atomic steeple]

Tylana: Manager that's not quite-

X: I mean, if you take away the mountain of vibing bodies, you're kind of tiny and cute.

Boksi: ...Let a nestborn try, Tylana. Manager, there's something important that you-

X: So like… I'm just not that intimidated? I mean. You've got a bow.

[faint pivot]

Reach Meltdown level 6

Is the unique Clear for Malk's

[stoic fjord]

Ohhhhhh

[minor gust]

ill just spam one hundred good deeds then

[faint pivot]

Yepyep

Reminder

You suffer no losses ending the day with an Ordeal still alive

[atomic steeple]

Tiphereth: Not intimidated? Try to find a manner of attack? Why would I need one? I am Tiphereth. Two in one. All that I can do, I can also do-and as I can do everything he is not required.

X: I mean, if you don't have an attack, then it's just a normal workday. Right?

Tylana: MANAGER!

X: Alright! What?!

Tylana: The Central Command Team performs the basic management of the containment cells!

X: Wait, what's that mean?

[faint pivot]

...to be specific the unique clear is "fill quota and reach Qlipoth Meltdown level 6"

I say this because some don't need you to fill the energy bar

[faint pivot]

This sonnuvabitch unironically competed with Gebura for number of restarts

[atomic steeple]

So that's what central command does

[faint pivot]

YEP

I genuinely only managed to clear it by ignoring the ||mandatory Ordeal of Midnight you face via the clear condition||

[minor gust]

FINALLY

[faint pivot]

Well done! The game is now a tad less painful

How're you feeling?

[minor gust]

relief\

[faint pivot]

The suppressions are optional, by the by

[minor gust]

also most of my agents are dead

[faint pivot]

I don't recommend skipping them but you def don't need to do 'em back to back

[minor gust]

i fucked up bad when big bird got out

oops

i should restart lol

[faint pivot]

You keep Core Suppression when you MemRep

So all good

...EGO aside ofc

[atomic steeple]

X: …

Tiph: See? The places you thought were protected have lost their protection! I can melt them down just like before!

X: …but… only when they'd spawn anyways.

Tiph: Well, yes. It's not like I can just make them at random, there's rules to this sort of thing.

X: And instead of focusing on the lower levels, where all my WAW and ALEPH Abnormalities are kept, you opened the Uppers back up to take hits for me.

Tiph: It's really intimidating, Manager! It's not my fault if you're just some second-rate who can't understand it!

X: She's just so cute..! I can't..!

As a boss, Tiphereth is impossible to take seriously. She forces us to go deep-all the way to level X, but her manner of attack is such a joke it may as well not exist-it's basically just playing the game like we did back on day 20.

This is also why she's dangerous. If we're not careful, Lobotomy Corporation will murder us-and over a long day with a boss who is a noted step down in difficulty, Tiphereth has lots of time to let us get careless.

[minor gust]

wth just happend with that button abnomality

[faint pivot]

That's that and this is-jk yeah that's it

Like that's literally all it does

[minor gust]

SO HOW DO I OBSERVE IT?

its kinda frustrating i wanna know the lore

[faint pivot]

Unfortunately uh

Actually lemme just look it up it's been a bit

[stoic fjord]

You can only see it if you go into the game's xml files iirc

Clicking on it in any way instantly kills everyone in your facility

Clicking it multiple times crashes the game

There is zero way to actually interact with the abno

[faint pivot]

It also does this if you click on it in the prep screen

[stoic fjord]

Fun

[faint pivot]

Pretty sure it's not counted for Abnormality Dissolution though

[stoic fjord]

Yeah, iirc it doesn't actually need to be fully researched or interacted with at all

Similar to backer abnos

[minor gust]

now wth

i tried clicking in the menu

[faint pivot]

Ah!

Not quite crash

But close enough roflmao

That's its intended effect

[minor gust]

it crashed

the game crashed

lol

it said something idk what

[faint pivot]

Also intended

This game is so peam

[faint pivot]

It said its name

[minor gust]

at least its free abno

does it get meltdownjs?

[faint pivot]

Uhhh yes but it does nothing if you let it melt

[faint pivot]

Also not quite - you need it to crash your game to 'research' it

[faint pivot]

Nevermind, it does not at all

[minor gust]

it dosent appear in the codex?

[stoic fjord]

Besides take away your enkephalin in the quota iirc

[faint pivot]

Ah right, but nothing to worry then cause it's immune to Meltdowns

[faint pivot]

Correct

The one and only

[stoic fjord]

Iirc it's actually a decent pick for lategame due to being meltdown immune

Similar to the uhhh

I forget its name

We Can Fix Anything?

[faint pivot]

We Can Do Anything

[stoic fjord]

Ohhhhh

[faint pivot]

If we're talking bout the blood-to-enkeph converter

Then it's that

[stoic fjord]

Yup

[faint pivot]

Y'know this is actually pretty powerful

Spoiled for those who wanna do the discovery process for this nifty little trick but ||it crashing the game is considered a MemRep, except you start at the same day||

[stoic fjord]

Oh, neat!

Wait what does that do

[faint pivot]

||You retry the day, like the menu option, with any changes in your EGO arsenal and Abnormality research carrying over, like a regular Restart from MemRep||

[stoic fjord]

Ohhhh

So it can work as an infinite grind tool

[faint pivot]

You can, i.e. as a freshie, ||look into Nothing There even though your employee's chances of tanking the damage are sketch, grab its EGO gear, crash the game, then voila NT barely does damage||

[faint pivot]

It's a timesaver if anything

But a really nifty one imho

[minor gust]

wecan change anything isa crueol abno justto unlock

its basically feedme agents

[atomic steeple]

Be very aware of where panicked Clerks run. If I hadn't caught this, there's a possibility they could have walked back up into Disciplinary, infected everyone, and caused a wipe. [That's lob corp gif]

[stoic fjord]

Clerks were made to make the game harder

[minor gust]

igotta ask whos the artist on day 10 scene on lob corp

i wanna say vellmori but too realistic angela

[atomic steeple]

After using Smile ego to eat bodies

Mr black: Ah, resplendent! Just like my mother used to make!

X: …

Tiph b: ...

X: Let's just move on.

[hybrid lynx]

district 23 backstreets

[faint pivot]

Ayeup

[atomic steeple]

Tiph b: Yeah… Hey, if you were like Tiphereth… would you keep on living, do you think?

X: That's...

Boksi: ...Yes. Of course we would. Most people would.

Tiph b: Really? Why?

Boksi: Because where there's life, there's hope. Father used to say that, before he died in the Smoke War.

[cosmic gorge]

lemme say controversially that FA Ryo's drip is a bit gaudy and silly
but she wears it with such aura that i dont car if its kitshe

[mystic ermine]

FA?

...
is that hte new one?

[cosmic gorge]

yeah

[faint pivot]

Faint Aroma yeah

[mystic ermine]

aha

[faint pivot]

I would've prefer she get the Ruina drip yea

Alas

After a few minutes of prep time I shall undertake my first attempt at suppressing Atziluth

Wish me luck everyone

[atomic steeple]

Good luck!

Ah… Tiphereth... I'm still waiting on that 'something good' you said would happen... I wonder…

Was all of this really worth it?

[cloud wadi]

No

Yes.

[faint pivot]

Okay, note to self: don't press the Pause button

Or perhaps...

Note to self, figure out the minimum number of deaths we can stomach for this 'un

[atomic steeple]

Next time, on Lobotomy Corporation: Binah says some vaguely terrifying stuff.

[stoic fjord]

Hokma balls

[atomic steeple]

Enoch: But, in the process of searching for those answers, I will be able to cast off my shell. Then I can fly away at last, leaving my heavy body behind…

Angela mocks X

X: I'm going to assume that was the script talking and overlook it.

Angela: You are most generous, A.

X: Hardly. There's no point in hating you for doing what the founder told you.

Angela: ...I see.

X: Is there anything else? Binah's paging me, and I'd love an excuse to put that off for an extra minute.

[stoic fjord]

Yi Sang reference

[cloud wadi]

I love that of all the possible reactions that probably would piss Angela off the most

[atomic steeple]

X: ...you're not going to tell me, are you.

Angela: You're correct.

X: Great. Definitely not gonna' be paranoid about this later. Let's just... go see what Binah wants.

[atomic steeple]

Huh, lper reset abno choices to get plague doctor
I thought he was inevitable to get

[wintry fiber]

It's not unfortunately

Or fortunately?

[lime swan]

unfortunately

its a pivotal experience

[faint pivot]

They're called secret bosses for a reason lmao

The only guaranteed Abno is One Sin

[faint pivot]

It's a good let's play yeah

Or at least, Pandora's highlights of it are

Is HQ the only place EGO gear are made? Or do the other branches have Wells?

[lime swan]

wonderlab (no longer canon) indicates to us that abnormality spawning seems centralized in HQ and abnos are sent off

ego gear is available in all branches

since gear extraction is local

[fluid whale]

Doing a writing thing, how would you describe Kong Qiu's philosophy without just going "it's Confucianism without the bad parts"?

[lime swan]

"Buddhism sucks"

[keen palm]

I think it's hard to really grasp what he believes

in totality at least

other than "you should be nice, maybe"

[fluid whale]

He says a lot more than that, and he backs it up more directly than our boy with a smile painted on

[fickle crown]

You live like this????

[gentle mulch]

question:

why does woutis do like 0 damage

[stoic fjord]

No clue either lowk

[crimson spindle]

it's not really confucianism in whole yet, it's sort of proto-confucian. he is looking for people to tell him their views so he can argue his way to accuracy

[fluid whale]

So, include the things he calls out like humanity, propriety, righteousness, but also make clear that it's like, unrefined?

[crimson spindle]

"What does Hongyuan need"

yeah

[split beacon]

his whole thing is that he's Confucius before he properly becomes Confucius

[crimson spindle]

he knows the place needs Principles but he's still open to arguing about what those need

[split beacon]

he's still cooking up a philosophy

[fluid whale]

He's still cooking but he certainly has the makings of a dish already

[split beacon]

he's got the ideas, he's got the direction, but he's a young and not yet fully formed version of the historical character

which is an interesting angle from project moon

[crimson spindle]

and like the real one he never actually gets to be in charge of anywhere :v

[dusty sigil]

Chat, people are talking about it again because of the BokGak

But after seeing what Ryoshu was doing pre contract

I think Outis just being a class 5 agent makes a lot of sense

Class 5s are about equal to like, a grade 1 fixer or capo/their equivalents in other fingers

And Ryoshu is like, just below that level

[split beacon]

I actually think a T5 agent will be stronger than a Grade 1 Fixer considering Meursault is probably going to be our grade 1 guy™ since taboo hunters be like

[dusty sigil]

Meursault wasn’t a taboo hunter though?

But also yah it’s probably one of those things that vary a lot

Unlike a grade 1 there’s no more ranks above a class 5 agent

[keen palm]

He is explicitly not a taboo hunter

[dusty sigil]

Once you’re a class 5 agent you’re a class 5 agent unless you get demoted or fired

[keen palm]

I also think Outis is former Wing board member

[dusty sigil]

That’s also possible yah

Her being any kinda high ranking Corp commander would explain her place in the power ranking

And also why she knows about Moses from the smoke war

[split beacon]

I mean I know he's not a taboo hunter but I feel like he's gonna be from around that area

[keen palm]

I think, thematically, she needs to be a ruler

[dusty sigil]

Since it seems like her being an Udjat is increasingly unlikely

[fluid whale]

I would go so far as to say impossible since she got an Udjat ID

[dusty sigil]

Yah

[atomic steeple]

Our ishmael is a wandering overachiever
This one is an unhealthy shut-in

[dusty sigil]

It’d be like getting Yurodivy Rodya

It’s not happening unless it’s a seasonal highlight ID

[atomic steeple]

I held back for a bit to not flood pnet with all the banger dialogue

[gentle mulch]

i have finally saved enough for 400 pulls

should last me for thumb duo, matthias outis, and walp

[stoic fjord]

I have 2700 lunacy

Slowly but surely

I will end my poverty

[worthy haven]

I am down to 20k lunacy 😔

i needed 230 pulls for this walp

[stoic fjord]

Oh hey

Decaextraction from MD pass

[atomic steeple]

X Sure I can. It doesn't have a Qliphoth Counter to worry about, so all we lose is what, 20 energy? Oh no, I'll have Mizu put in an extra shift with the slime, I'm sure she'll hate that. :rolleyes:

Chesed But the meltdown protocols-

X See, that's the thing: I'm done following stupid rules that get people killed. I make the protocols, and when they're counterproductive I'm going to change them.

Chesed But then… my rebellion. What point does it serve?

X Iunno, you're the one rebelling. What do you want?

Hokma: Speaking of which, I believe you mentioned that there was an agent who punched you in the face? I was wondering… who were they?

Yeah, you're gonna' have to keep wondering. I'm pretty sure you'd just kill them, and I like having them around.

I've already told you, there is no need to feel guilty over retiring an employee who is doing the wrong things. Death is insignificant.

X: You realize that every single one of you is definitely going to die a horrible death, right?

Clerk guy: We're Clerks, sir. We know how things work around here. Miss Tenebrais is our savior, our light in this dark underground hellhole!

Clerk gal: My greatest regret is that I have but one life to give to help Miss Tenebrais!

X: ...Problem solved. Any objections? Yesod?

Yesod: I don't like meaningless deaths, but I can't fix recklessness like this.

[glad fable]

Why do they worship Tenebrais again?

[atomic steeple]

Shrug

Misunderstandinga abd insanity?

[glad fable]

Sounds about right

https://bskye.app/profile/bleparts.bsky.social/post/3mhiyxbwvqs2h

[atomic steeple]

https://bskye.app/profile/bleparts.bsky.social/post/3mhiyxbwvqs2h

Ah, cute find, Rose

Clerk, before killing themself: I… I've managed to be of some use to the great Miss Tenebrais! My life is complete… Now, to add my soul to the collective of Clerkdom which empowers her grand strength!

X: ...sorry what was that?

Tenebrais: Iunno, clerks are friggin' weird.

[glad fable]

https://tenor.com/view/big-red-flags-star-wars-lego-gif-11721769

[atomic steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw0bc1vbEvo

[eternal gull]

Chat am I cooked?

[atomic steeple]

Angela: In every man, the two instincts, the primal essence of life and death coexist. The Wings only guided our instinct of life. However, if one instinct were to dominate too much, the other would begin to make its move, slowly and unbeknownst to us, from the depths. Soon, a world where everyone wants to return to nothing will arrive. Into the stillness of silence before the birth of mankind.
An instinct to annihilate the City

[fickle crown]

we have blazing strike at home ahhh roll

[atomic steeple]

In summary: Apparently a technological singularity turned the world into a cyberpunk hellhole, and that is what we're trying to fix before all of humanity winds up destroying itself. The other Wings are just as bad as L-Corp, and oh right-nobody knows if our plan is going to fix everything or make it worse.

A may be a colossal idiot.

Binah: I haven’t seen anyone that can draw out the true potential, apart from the Red Mist. To wield E.G.O is to dress oneself in the shell of the ego of another person. The wielder is merely imitating the borrowed ego, unable to completely make the power their own.
Had I known that before being locked up here, I would have done anything to get my hands on them
If I could, the circumstances may have changed dramatically. Now I’m confined here, issuing orders to extract E.G.O, forbidden from touching them myself. You must have been scared still, even though my hatred and bloodthirst are locked up inside this rusted metal cage.
Don't you worry; I no longer have anything left
But you never know. The yearning for blood could wax once again, for it is simply sealed, not uprooted.

[atomic steeple]

The other new one, -110, is a very annoying WAW level Clerk's Rights Abnormality which gives nothing worthwhile in return for putting up with it. Its weapon is bad. Its suit is pretty average. It's not good at stat training. It's just not an Abnormality I can recommend for any facility.
Clouded monk

[bronze zephyr]

LMAO

[atomic steeple]

Finally! Censored joined the facility in the lets play!

I really would have liked to see -69 much earlier, we're at the point where it's basically useless to us. It's a very nice HE level Justice trainer with a unique E.G.O weapon and a gift I personally like, but alas it's not to be for this playthrough

[split beacon]

Clerks' Rights Abnos are bad news

[bronze zephyr]

I have MoSB in my facility, I understand 😔

[atomic steeple]

Abnormalities are not the evil monsters that you read about in old fairy tales. They are not some supernatural gods that descended upon us to judge our sins, either. There is an old River that has been flowing at the very bottom of the world for many an age. It is the source of everything, but has been forgotten by mankind

Hey
Isn't interesting that Censored either looks like a horse or a thing with others sticking from it

Like something with bodies stuck in it, that can take the shape of a horse?

[eternal gull]

me thinks its mechanical

[atomic steeple]

Hm, could be

[Censored] immediately inflicts the Hopeless fear level on any level 5 agent walking into its room-this immediately deals them 60% of whatever their maximum SP is. On agents level 4 or less it's even worse-it immediately inflicts Overwhelmed, which panics them instantly.
It also deals Black damage-and enough to deal 3 damage despite Mizu's 0.3x resistance. This means that most Agents will panic over the course of a work with it, particularly in earlygame when our gear isn't as powerful as it is now.
There are a few ways to deal with the huge amount of SP damage that it pumps out. [...] We don't need to do any of that in this facility, though.
[...] Our facility as it stands now is able to just power through its gimmick without a care in the world.

[mystic ermine]

YEah, I think Chrage is pretty good

[bronze zephyr]

nfjksdkfnds

[glad fable]

Tremor is fun

[atomic steeple]

Nobody Is is a pretty cool abno

[mystic ermine]

Donqui
can you... can you not

[keen palm]

Don't forget sources

[glad fable]

It's Wonderlab IWRC

[atomic steeple]

Yes

Catt is a nothing there fan?

Huh, losing your cool really can spell doom, and make you run from what was actually a safe path right into an instakill

[mystic ermine]

As you may or may not be able to tell

something might have happened

[atomic steeple]

If that is what nothing there and nobody is are about, wonder what everything there is

[stoic fjord]

everybody is

[vagrant dove]

Assimilation of some kind maybe, Heathcliff mentions the corroded inquisitors are being moved around by the muscle growths attached to them

Although that could just be the corrosion effect

And not a reflection of what the abno itself does

[atomic steeple]

Huh
Did ayin make a less intelligent angela for the branch buildings?

[stoic fjord]

Dante has some of the same questions we do

...the city being a category makes me worried

please don't make us go to scarier places KJH 😭

[vagrant dove]

Spoilers (just in case) ||yeah pretty much

the secretary of the Branch seen in WL is a much less advanced ai, presumably to avoid breaking the Ethics Amendment||

[atomic steeple]

Dude cannot move on from carmen

[cloud wadi]

Don’t you see

Carmen is our life now

[atomic steeple]

Hm, angela merch sold on lob corp branches

[vagrant dove]

AI laws in the city prevent Angela from suing him over the use of her likeness

Fucked up

[atomic steeple]

Imagine thinking you're a protagonist and being the first red shirt

[vagrant dove]

I really like Catt honestly

Very much what I imagined longlasting agents to be like

[atomic steeple]

Why temperance is good for attachment work

[stoic fjord]

question

what do each of the lob corp stats actually correspond to

[atomic steeple]

Okay so

Hokma explains it

And I think the art book too

[stoic fjord]

like, is fortitude just physical durability, and then prudence is just mental stability? or

it feels like there'd be overlap there to some extent, and I just cannot find this stuff easily rn

[atomic steeple]

So fortitude is physical might, but also bravery too

[split beacon]

Fortitude, Prudence, Temperance and Justice right

[atomic steeple]

The 4 virtues are also a thing in occultism, btw. Saw in my book today

[stoic fjord]

yeah

[atomic steeple]

Prudence is more about perspective and understanding

[split beacon]

Fortitude is how strong you are physically but also your ability to stare down death and go "nah, I'd win"

[quartz sun]

https://lparchive.org/Lobotomy-Corporation/Update 207/7-art7.png

[split beacon]

Prudence is attention to detail, wisdom, understanding of your surroundings and thinking both meticulously and outside the box, kind of general wariness and preparedness to not get whammied by abnormalities

[atomic steeple]

Temperance is about understanding your desires and those of others, and knowing how to navigate them

[atomic steeple]

Hokma does a nice speech of it in the Virtue of Creation mission

[split beacon]

and then Justice is like, weird

[atomic steeple]

Justice seems to be decisiveness and control

[split beacon]

it seems to be a measure of both having a values system but also conviction

[atomic steeple]

To be able to judge fast and with certainty

[stoic fjord]

so it's not just like, being able to resist shit, it's moreso an active understanding and ability to navigate

[split beacon]

it's not good enough to just know right or wrong, you have to also decide quickly and make decisions completely and then follow all the way through on them to be Just in the Lobotomy Corporation sense

[atomic steeple]

Thus you become graceful in battle

And movement

And can control the flow of a situation in repression work

[split beacon]

I mean it makes sense

Repression is eradicating an abnormality not by just killing it physically, but denying its purpose or reason to exist

[atomic steeple]

Nothing there requires fortitude and justice probably because you need to be strong, courageous, decisive and quick on the uptake to stop it

[split beacon]

so you need Justice to understand its values system and to decide quickly and certainly how to destroy it

[atomic steeple]

An encounter with it is a struggle

[stoic fjord]

I wonder why Funeral of the Dead Butterflies lowers its QC when an agent with high fortitude works on it

[split beacon]

Funeral for the Dead Butterflies represents release from strenuous work, a high Fortitude agent is someone it can identify as having worked very fucking hard

[atomic steeple]

Yeah, at least in the ideal form hokma described, that harmonizes hearts and facilitates creation
This description explains why it covers restraint and socialization.

[stoic fjord]

"it's worse than I thought. I have to get out and start killing people NOW"

[split beacon]

Funeral's reverse stat check is basically it responding to the fact that high Fortitude agents are the ones who have physically suffered the most in pursuit of their jobs

[atomic steeple]

The most diligent and courageous

[stoic fjord]

hrmm... I imagine Singing Machine is similar-ish in that way in that it's selecting for something similar

[atomic steeple]

Meanwhile prudence agents are good at figuring out how abnos tick, allowing them to adjust environments
This helps to deal with dimensional refraction variant, but means more mental stress from certain horrifying abnos

[split beacon]

yeah Singing Machine one would assume thinks that high Fortitude agents have really excellent bodies to produce fantastic music with

"thinks"

you get the idea

[atomic steeple]

Or are bold enough to jump in for music

[stoic fjord]

Insight work instantly killing you with spider bud is not so complex and is just like... cleaning up the webs means you're harming its children, yeah?

[atomic steeple]

Yeah

[split beacon]

yeah Spider Bud does not care for having its environment adjusted

[atomic steeple]

You poke its territory too much, step where you shouldn't

All around helper is a cleaner, so you have a hard time adjusting its room for it. In fact it gains a negative modifier over observation progress

Perhaps to represent its wonky learning algorithm?

However, its ego gift aids in insight work

[stoic fjord]

the sinners lining up to be shot dead by Yi Sang because there's a cool new ID that released

[atomic steeple]

A high temperance person is probably highly empathetic and socially aware. Thus their hearts are warm, and set off the woodsman

[stoic fjord]

scarecrow wants that fucking brain up there if you have high prudence

[atomic steeple]

It's interesting moses activates black damage, associated with temperance, using envy