Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[atomic steeple]

Angela X… You actually did it.

X Of course I did. I'm the best damn manager this place has ever had.

Angela You certainly deserve to applaud yourself this time. For the time being, I will cease lodging any complaints regarding the beer machine.

X Thank you.

Hm, so people hate nameless fetus. Understandable

[stoic fjord]

Genuinely worse than some ALEPHs

[atomic steeple]

"Feed me employees"

Censored is the only other abno that you feed random people to

Angela thinks forgotten things can be more beautiful, interesting

Is it happiness at ayin being amnesiac, so her memories of him don't come with the expectation of further cruelty from him

X I don't think I've ever said anything like that, though?

Angela I am an incomparable, perfect AI. My memory contains a large amount of information about our interactions. If I am saying you have said something, you have absolutely said it.

X Really doesn't sound like me, but whatever.

Now, I know I promised ten lines of text, and there were a total of four. The reason for that is that we have six additional lines of dummied out text left in the script after the scene fades out! This never actually shows up in the game proper so it shouldn't be considered canon-but I'm including it here for completion.

Angela There are beings who could not even become Abnormalities due to unfortunate accidents long ago. We failed to contain them. They would often wander the corridors, attacking our employees whose hands are already full. We could have simply called them residues or byproducts, but someone with an extraordinarily inflated ego suggested that we call them ‘Ordeals’. Imagine you’re walking down a narrow corridor. Waiting for an Ordeal to strike each time you turn the corner. There is one thing that is certain. While we cannot avoid them, we can overcome them.

[stoic fjord]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_stdbZubvRI

[atomic steeple]

Lp: These lines were retranslated just like the rest of the game, despite the fact that nobody would ever actually see them. The discussion on Ordeals proper gets moved elsewhere, and I think the specifics may have changed slightly as well, which I assume is part of why this isn't around anymore. Still, my compliments to the new translation team for this one.

Grade 7 Fixer Bishop Moriarty
What a name

Talow x bishop doujins must exist in-universe

[stoic fjord]

What the fuck

[keen palm]

Average Ryoshu fan

[atomic steeple]

I love ryoshu fans

[faint pivot]

I'm ngl I've gotta agree with Tiphereth here

This is me prosecuting myself ofc but Blue Star breaches only when a. you miss its Meltdown or b. you send an underprepped Agent

[atomic steeple]

Lper missed the meltdown

[faint pivot]

To the shredder it is

[atomic steeple]

Judgement bird. I love mizu

Tylana: Already in the cell. Of course you are. :psyduck: (too lazy to replace emote

Mizu: Ooh, this cutie's shaving away at my soul. That's kind of forward, huh? I like it~

[faint pivot]

Lmao

Madame is so appreciative of the City

[mystic ermine]

oh yeah.

[atomic steeple]

Mizu I like the other one just fine, but you're a cutie too… and that birdie should have definitely bought me dinner first.

Talow knows the bird lore

[atomic steeple]

Angela: It has occurred to me that, given my status as a superior AI, you may wish to register your awe regarding my helpfulness in performing your duties. It would make sense, as I am the greatest partner you could have. If you wish to perform such an action without worrying about the jealousy of the lesser AI, it would be possible to do so within this frozen space.

[main scaffold]

She sucks so much I love it

[atomic steeple]

Green dusk looks like a pain to deal with

[eternal gull]

talking to a player in my party about their character

bro is literally ||matthias|| 😭

[mystic ermine]

HOLY< SHIT

[mystic ermine]

oh!

shit

[eternal gull]

😭

ill let you take a guess magic

[atomic steeple]

Oof

[eternal gull]

in fairness he's not matthias levels of bad

but hes like

yeah...

[mystic ermine]

OH MNY GOODNESS GRACIOUS

[ebon forge]

special contract?

[mystic ermine]

NOPE

HAH

she just
did that

the coin power being divided isn't something factored into coin retriggers

...I think, anywaays

[main scaffold]

Kozan has only one coin initial so that’s probably it yeah

[eternal gull]

kinda numbers I be praying for

[main scaffold]

Free lunacy!

[mystic ermine]

...I wonder if there's been any attempt at getting E.G.O Gifts out of the MD and keep them functional

because
Like
DAMN.

[mystic ermine]

more gambling....

[atomic steeple]

Angela: X, it appears that she has made a pun. They are meant to be humorous.

X: That you think that just shows you've got a long way to go to understand humans.

Bokisi: Isn't it a bit early for the day to end? We still have clerks.

What is the difference between central and control anyways?

[keen palm]

Thats just ego gear

[mystic ermine]

I fear E.G.O gear doesn't allow us to roll big bonkers numbers

[lean fjord]

That's why we've gotten a bunch of EGO that replicate certain gifts tbh

[cloud wadi]

central is central to the running of the corporation and control controls stuff

[atomic steeple]

... Oh look there, your name was drawn to be sent to Censored

[cloud wadi]

literally central command team works as a staircase

malkuth is the one who actually gives orders to people

if you ask me they are probably the comms bureau

responsible for ensuring that messages from one department reaches another

[atomic steeple]

I see, thanks

It makes sense

[keen palm]

Hohenheim got like 15 levels out of it

[mystic ermine]

that's true

[gentle mulch]

i just realized when lei heng is like this fucking sucks talking to ishmael, outis could have probably yapped to him considering..

but uh

whether she's actually known by the thumb may be different

[stoic fjord]

did the soldatos have to address Dante with respect or just Faust

[keen palm]

Dante

[gentle mulch]

i do not remember

[keen palm]

Dante is the executive manager

[stoic fjord]

I think this works but I need to figure out deploy order

[keen palm]

Hrmmm

[stoic fjord]

I think this deployment can have all 4 activate over time

[stoic fjord]

KK Rodion and N Corp Don are there as FB sacrifices to move to the next ID

I can theoretically level don slightly to make KK Rodion get shot first

as bloise is my starting lineup

so let's theorycraft, I guess

Hong Lu, Heathcliff, Yi Sang, KK Rodion, Ishmael

this activates poise already

if we add in greg and don, that's bleed

eliminating KK Rodion and N Corp Don could bring in 2 more IDs, and then Heathcliff also retreats

okay so just

let's figure out who we need on the field for each status

[keen palm]

Whats the plan for this team?

Is this omni status

[mystic ermine]

I see a vision

[atomic steeple]

Hm, how is n corp team looking nowadays? Who is good among the fanatics?

[mystic ermine]

and it scares me

[stoic fjord]

1. Poise
   Yi Sang, Heathcliff, Hong Lu, Ishmael, Rodion
2. Bleed
   Yi Sang, Ishmael, 3 of the following (N Don, Ryoshu, KK Rodion, Gregor)
3. Tremor
   Ryoshu, Sinclair, Gregor, Don Quixote, Meursault
4. Burn
   Faust, Meursault, Outis, Sinclair, Ishmael

[stoic fjord]

yes

[keen palm]

Rupture?

[stoic fjord]

oh wait no not omni status sorry

just the 4 listed

[keen palm]

Ah okay

[stoic fjord]

I'm trying to take out like

all of the remaining MD achievements

because I am gunning for 1 last ticket so I can do another 10 pull before walp ends

[stoic fjord]

hrmmm

okay so clearly Rodion needs to die before don quixote

1. Hong Lu
2. Heathcliff
3. Ishmael
4. Yi Sang
5. KK Rodion
6. Ryoshu
7. N Don...

mnnnno

okay yeah this doesn't work in that configuration

what if... I try to activate burn and poise first?

[unique bane]

https://preview.redd.it/verily-this-is-bullshit-v0-77pz5j0mifpg1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9f2c1abad14163ad2717a56c75c8e1bde0b6b328

[stoic fjord]

the main issue here is that I need a full 3 flex slots to work with, and everyone here is contributing

wait

heathcliff can come in later theoretically

hrm

but that fucks with poise

what if I just tried for burn tremor poise without worrying about bleed?

[gentle mulch]

oh my god

is it actually another faust he

lmao

[stoic fjord]

poise

• Yi Sang, Heathcliff, Hong Lu, Ishmael, Rodion
  burn
• Faust, Outis, Meursault, Sinclair...

[gentle mulch]

ANOTHER TWO WEEKS I WONT HAVE TO ROLL GRAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[stoic fjord]

fuck my entire life

fuck my entire stupid executive manager life

I just want another 10 pull on the walp

[lean fjord]

most contested slot possible

[stoic fjord]

am I cooking

who gives a shit let's try the vaguely pequod team

actually this team is lowk ass but we ball

who the fuck gave Pequodcliff envy res on the fucking poise pride res team

fire them immediately

sorry I'm heated rn over my last team falling through

[keen palm]

Hes a middle id its where he belongs

With his family

Smile

[stoic fjord]

historians will find my limbus teams and ask if I was clinically insane

[cloud wadi]

dante as you know barely even counts as a human being

and is a wretch who gets dragged along by the lcb

and so is due no respect from thumb

[keen palm]

Dante is specifically regarded as higher than the soldato

And Faust is allowed to speak as a translator

[gentle mulch]

like genuinely after arknights the only time im gonna even pay attention to a faust he is if it's in another limited event--which i do NOT want to happen

[stoic fjord]

I'm interested but mostly because I like having things with variety for different situations

[keen palm]

Im cool with making Faulyssa viable

[stoic fjord]

ABS Faust is viable

[keen palm]

Shes so etched out though

[stoic fjord]

?

[stoic fjord]

GUYS

FROM A RANDOM 1 PULL TOO

decided to use all 9 tickets and also got a geb dupe

so honestly

can't be mad

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLRY12QAhFI||

MAJOR CANTO 9 SPOILERS

[atomic steeple]

Another community unfavorite, -109 is an ALEPH who nonetheless people still like anyways.
Makes total sense

[stoic fjord]

Melting Love is one of my favorite abnos because she is a cute slime girl

however.

I have hosted her in my facility before

I would genuinely rather just take Whitenight

[crimson spindle]

melting love is also iirc a backer abno

meaning unlikely to ever appear again

[stoic fjord]

unfort

[atomic steeple]

But we can get something similar
Like that railway abno similar to backwards clock

Melting love's concept is very good for a lust abno
Family, affection, hunger, infection

[crimson spindle]

also it's horny in a way that is not like... in the right tone for projmoon as a whole

[split beacon]

If we get a Melting Love runback it’ll be an Aberration with a very different tone and appearance

[atomic steeple]

Angela totally is talking about the seed of light when talking about the cactus, and probably herself too
The facility that feels so hostile to the cactus blooming

[cloud wadi]

But would pmoon skip out on an opportunity to slime Ishmael

[atomic steeple]

Yeah, likely without the "little sister" stuff

[stoic fjord]

sorry the what

[atomic steeple]

Ah, it's not a big thing
But in the files an employee notoriously sees her as a surrogate to a dead little sister
It is also mentioned it was born from an adolescent corpse

[stoic fjord]

😬

[fickle crown]

Huh... Canto 9 spoilers but ||it is weirdly funny how Kira (and to a much lesser and brief extent Rien) were the only two to at least live through the events of the HoS raid. It's probably coincidence, but it is funny knowing 4 apprentices and 4 nursefathers died in the raid, not to mention Ryoshu being Sinner no. 4 and her having a butterfly in her emblem (also a symbol of death)||

[cloud wadi]

There’s probably gonna be a slime like assimilator abno for her canto part 2 honestly

[atomic steeple]

Anyway, tiphereth, A I think, knows the manager has hidden memories about the AIs, but whatever thoughts he has about the sephirah's existence causes a breakdown

Thus he has to be cycled
I mean, scrapped and replaced

[fickle crown]

Anyways, that's my singular use of brain matter for the day used up

[atomic steeple]

Slime platonic solid abno

Slime d20

[fickle crown]

I do kinda wish Middle Ish could inflict extra burn based on enemy bleed too but alas...

[cloud wadi]

Enoch was damaged somehow by the cogito experiments I think and so was only partially able to be copied into a sefira

But I think that’s mostly an excuse

I think tiphereth A dies because he wants to die

And tiphereth B blames equipment failure and the manager because she can’t admit that he would want to leave her

[atomic steeple]

Tiph A, at netzach: Loser, watch how it's done
Dies

[fickle crown]

Yeah, it's ultimately about letting go

Also Tiphereph B being mounted atop a pile of her sibling's corpses is just

Tragic imo

[keen palm]

I think theyre gonna turn the slime girl into a milf to signify shes evil now

[fickle crown]

Anywho ||imagine we get slapped with Kira raising simulator as an intervallo lmao (I doubt this is happening)||

[cloud wadi]

She’d be lucky if they bother to reattach her legs

[atomic steeple]

Slime woman who's welcoming but is secretly infecting you

[fickle crown]

I mean, ngl you probably would need to reattach them anyways because her organs probably spilled everywhere

I don't think she would even fight back given how utterly broken she is by the end of the raid anyways

[stoic fjord]

BLADE LINEAGE KIRA

TRUST

[cloud wadi]

Well she’s got a helluva scar for sure

[atomic steeple]

Punishing bird chomps an agent
Clerk: THE GREAT TENEBRAIS HAS PERISHED! ALL IS LOST! ALERT THE OTHERS! AAAAAAHH!!!
X: ...I gave her the stupid bullet shield. You can't blame this on me.
Tiph B: Well, it's not my fault your agents are out of control.
Yesod: Manager, the clerks from all over the building have gone into open revolt.
X: Soooo… what, they're shooting themselves in the head again?
Yesod: Manager.
X: sigh Fine. We rewind, but because her and that gear're more valuable than a few extra hours of working.

[fickle crown]

I do think canto 9.5-1 is gonna just be a lot of cleanup work post-raid

[cloud wadi]

We do have much to go over

[fickle crown]

Also imagine 9.5-1 is when we get a proper Passenger EGO ID

[cloud wadi]

It’ll be Ricardo id trust

[fickle crown]

Idk why but having that EGO as a retreatable ID would be awesome

Also charge with actual rupture would be peak but we all know Maost permanently ruined Rupture stocks

[atomic steeple]

Is firebird a reverse coin abnormality? 🤔

Minus coin

[fickle crown]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mZTk9X61J70?si=h9rRCvyNhT66GWAK

[atomic steeple]

Credentia: Hey… should you be stepping on the corpse of a clerk like that?

Mizu: Ehh, it's probably fine. Nobody really cares. And I mean… when I do this it goes crackle-squish!

Credentia: Oh… ew… I didn't need to see that.

Mizu: Me either! It's the sound I like.

[faint pivot]

Neru and Gumi the vocaloids? Peam

[faint pivot]

Yesod's floor does, by the by

[atomic steeple]

"The place where we were born, and where we will return to someday."
This phrase pops up how many times in lob corp, I wonder
I know it's a big thing with Blue Star, and I think there was another instance

Robots bleed here
*Ultrakill intensifiea*

[faint pivot]

Another hint that perhaps our narrator is unreliable

[atomic steeple]

Oh, the start of malkuth's meltdown is so unsettling and creepy. Love it!

Angela: Manager, there is something I hadn’t informed you of when we spoke for the first time. The Sephirot of course wholeheartedly want to meet you; they admire you and follow you… However, at the same time, they earnestly yearn for you to be swallowed up in resentment and curses. Please be careful with them.

Angela: What I mean to say is you are free to go back to your daily routine. It’s no big deal for me to fill their roles if some of our Sephirot go mad. Though if you do, then you will lose something important forever…
Angela: The Seed that can break the cycle

[crimson spindle]

||also when she first broke out she killed 1/5 nursefathers, leaving 4||

[fickle crown]

True!

[faint pivot]

So what you're saying is that we're missing out on a Shi Assoc. Ryoshu

[cosmic gorge]

Thats Shi Faust's live-in partner who does nothing but play four notes on a guitar in their apartment

[atomic steeple]

First notes of megalovania

[atomic steeple]

X: You've killed Boksi. You know that, right?

Meltdown malkuth: You killed Boksi. I just watched and did nothing.

[fickle crown]

Imagine Shi Ryoshu ends up being better than her capstone ID lmao

[atomic steeple]

Lmao, the meltdown glitches nothing there

So we have nt in the shape of an employee saying I love you to another, without killing them

[atomic steeple]

Are you fucking serious
Every department has 3 researches to offer upgrades
One just plain does not work without mods

Chesed's research is all related to the Healing bullets-which are less effective than Shield bullets-and one of his researches is bugged out so that it does nothing at all without a mod to fix it. It's not ideal, but to be fair he carries a mug at all times so our choice is obvious.

[bronze zephyr]

skull emoji

iirc theres actually multiple researches that dont work lol

[atomic steeple]

Angry sounds. Head banging on wall

You know what
I genuinely wish pmoon would put fixing previous games a bit in the schedule

[wintry fiber]

Alas the Lob spaghetti will never be touched

The fact that a not insignificant amount of the game doesn't work is part of the charm

[stoic fjord]

honestly given how it is I imagine the fixes might break something else

[cloud wadi]

I do hope for another monster management sim sometimes

[faint pivot]

Just Chesed's

[faint pivot]

And yeah I've mentioned this before lmao

[fickle crown]

Oh god... LCE mobile game

[faint pivot]

I'd love that ngl

A big reason why I haven't finished LobCorp nor Ruina is cause my laptop runs out of battery before I get anything significant done

This is fixed with a Steam Deck I'd assume, but having another PMoon game on my phone would be amazing

[bronze zephyr]

oh, thought one of Hods also applied

[faint pivot]

Which one?

Ah

Checked the wiki

Improve Hiring Procedures also doesn't work

[stoic fjord]

tbf the clerks weren't gonna do anything anyways

[faint pivot]

That's Improve Work Education

[faint pivot]

This one's supposed to give +5 to every new employee's stats

[stoic fjord]

Oh lmao

[bronze zephyr]

One of Chesed’s that’s meant to increase healing of hp and sp bullets also doesn’t work lol

[faint pivot]

It's this one yep

[bronze zephyr]

Oh lmao

I’m tired,,

Malkuth’s supression is also supposed to increase employee speed, it does not

Only Chesed has a mod to fix it though from what I can see

[keen palm]

https://youtu.be/JLR2gQX5PKg?si=BP2dQ7QscrWsWPpJ

[main scaffold]

Lob Corp sure was coded

Dawnmon (Kutuzov <3) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Malkuth’s supression is also supposed to increase employee speed, it does not

[lean fjord]

I love her boss theme so much, it's great

[wintry fiber]

That's actually kinda funny

The Eye of Odin just lets you turn everything into YOMIH

[quaint cliff]

oh, wow

I mean in hindsight logically it makes sense they’d do this for him, but I didn’t expect it.

[solid junco]

i need more, where can i get more

[faint pivot]

Canto 9 spoilers for those curious

[vagrant dove]

One of the codebases of all time

[atomic steeple]

https://ladyofthebookcase.tumblr.com/post/803778615463542784/my-dealer-got-a-new-strain-for-you-its-called

living a distant dream

my dealer: got a new strain for you 😳 it's called "lobotomy corporation" ⚗️🧪 you'll be zoinked outta your gourd

me: yeah whatever i dont feel shit

5 minutes later: dude i swear i just saw nothing there leave its containment

my buddy reinhardt, pacing unnaturally still: i love you

-# #case files #lobcorp #lobotomy corporation #nothing there

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[mint cliff]

lmao

[bronze zephyr]

albina hong lu will be annouced next week im not crazy im not crazy... hong lu has gone the longest without an ID, his last was Hong Lord 7 months ago..

[atomic steeple]

Dihui star faust

[quaint cliff]

daaaamn. guess that’s what happens when you get unopposed attacks out the ass

[atomic steeple]

https://novalovesoutis.tumblr.com/post/797339692229165056/ok-uhhhhhhh-filler-post-heres-nothing-there-yuri

VergDanteOutis fan♪ (I love reading reblogs!!)

Ok uhhhhhhh filler post here's nothing there yuri that I made a long time ago it was basically my first sprite edit before abnormality dancing Gregor ok ok yeah ok yeah whatever man

-# #limbus company #project moon #digital art #limbus company fanart #limbus fanart #project moon fanart #sillyyyyy #sprite edit #limbus company yuri #yuri limbus company #lobotomy corporation #lob corp #nothing there #<- istg if the tag is full of weird bullshit #filler post lmao #expect this to flop

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[bronze zephyr]

oh jeez whoa

[faint pivot]

Nothing There nailed the legs at least...

[signal kindle]

Yes

[signal kindle]

-# fyi same person behind both accounts this is just for mobile im on less servers on this one

[atomic steeple]

I love this lets play
Mr Black: And there's nothing to worry about from Netzach! HAHAHA, he doesn't care about anything at all, manager included! Why, he let me draw a smiling face on him before without complaint!

[faint pivot]

https://youtu.be/4-IbmGZIkak

Canto 9 spoilers (I fucking wish it didn't it's so hilarious)
||https://youtu.be/b9PNnADsOz4||

[atomic steeple]

Wait, the only reason the lper doesn't have a perfect no agent death record is Ishmael
The fault lies with her

Music: Ricardo's Revenge
What?

[fickle crown]

Huh

Just now realizing, the four theory gets weirder when you realize Kira and Rien both have 4 letters in their names

[vagrant dove]

Proof we're getting a Yujin id trust

[faint pivot]

Did NF #4 get cut up by Ryo?

All I remember was her smashing what was presumably sarublade

[faint pivot]

I forgot what the context of this was

[atomic steeple]

She says A died, yet has watched the facility

She was a witness, and accomplice

[fickle crown]

I think she damaged his sword

Which technically that was y'know... Made out of him

There wasn't anything significant that she could damage, so she went for what was most important to him instead

[atomic steeple]

"Wow, chesed seems like a well adjusted guy-"
Chesed: The way I handled that was quite different from what you’ve seen out of the others, wasn’t it? Yep, Lady Angela wouldn’t have gone easy on that at all like I did. These employees will be goners soon enough, so what’s the point in investing so much effort, scolding and lambasting them over tiny little mishaps?
"Ah yep, similar to netzach's own medical nihilism"

Chesed: Too bad, lukewarm coffee just isn’t worth it. Best to pour it down the drain with no hesitation.
Probably a metaphor

[mystic ermine]

Identity Facade working flawlessly

[faint pivot]

(Magic is probably referring to a Facaded Heishou comboing with Hong Lord & reverting to their Heishou form)

[fickle crown]

But yeah uh @faint pivot that might partially explain why ||Callisto|| is ultimately more manageable too since he's fighting without a relic and with a damaged weapon

[faint pivot]

More manageable, eh...

GIVE ||MARTON|| BACK YOU CRINGEY ASS ARTIST

||/rp||

[faint pivot]

For real though the fact that he can project a force of his own like that without a relic is honestly impressive

[fickle crown]

Oh yeah that also reminds me, he did also lobotomize himself basically

[faint pivot]

That too

With Albina following suit

[fickle crown]

There was literally nothing for Ryoshu to damage

[faint pivot]

Ngl I was under the impression that the concept cutter would apply to wounds inflicted to prosthetics too (cause of the "even if it's replaced by a prosthetic the wound reopens and the replacements fail" bit) but this makes more sense

[fickle crown]

Well when you think about it, the sword is also made from his body

So it'd make more sense for her to gun for his masterpiece than his body

Because he clearly doesn't care if he loses something else

[faint pivot]

True

[fickle crown]

Interestingly, he's also the only one that died feeling fulfilled

He is pathetic in his own way but I like him more for it

Someone so lonely that he'd jump at the chance for literally anyone to give him feedback

[cloud wadi]

Even feedback telling him all his work is garbage yeah

“I think I saw more interesting dead corpses in the war”

I love that for Sinclair that actually is a genuine comment

[split beacon]

although Rien is most clearly Yoshihide, the Nursefathers are all aspects of the shitty useless father in their own way and Callisto is the obsessed artist

[fickle crown]

I don't think he's just that, he's the one that tried to mold Ryoshu the most in his own image

Even when she was ultimately disinterested in his form of art, he kept trying

[split beacon]

yes but for the purposes of talking about Hell Screen, Callisto being an obsessive artist who HAS to behold hellish things with his own eyes and touch them with his own hands is somewhat important

[fickle crown]

Yea

I do also just

Like how each of the nursefathers are dissections of their respective fingers

[split beacon]

I find it very interesting how they're all failures at being what their fingers want from their members

with Rien and Shiomi it's not immediately made clear but the evidence is there if you look closely

[fickle crown]

I'm not too sure with Shiomi but part of me thinks (at least with her) it was because she had such a fixed perception of what humanity looks like

[split beacon]

I think with Shiomi her failing as a member of the Pinky is pretty clear in how she raised Ryoshu

where's the humanity in that?

[fickle crown]

That too

But I do think freedom of expression is also part of the Pinky as well

I think the cigarette scene cements a lesser form of her failure in that regard

[faint pivot]

Elaborate

[split beacon]

oh yeah I mean, it's also clearly not a good thing for her as a member of the Pinky that she ultimately molded her daughter into a copy of herself but meaner, more armoured and more heartbroken under the mask

[faint pivot]

Speaking of Rien, it fascinates me how the Index chose a medium with potential for picture-perfect clarity and paired it with a necessity of interpretation

One could always falsify the ciphers

[split beacon]

all while resenting that she'd give rise to a better iteration on herself

[split beacon]

the interpretation is the point no

[faint pivot]

I feel like the nudge/reception of the message itself is

[fickle crown]

What I mean is that the Pinky (at least to me) also wants to expand the worldview of others through its diversity. Shiomi does none of that, in fact she would've served to narrow Ryoshu's worldview. She never shares a story or talks about her travels, she just talks about her own version of humanity

[split beacon]

nah because just being told what to do isn't enough to give people a sense of purpose or direction in life otherwise they wouldn't have an unfulfilled desire that gives rise to a God of the City in the first place just living wage slave lives

the interpretation is the point, the Index have to be a people who live or die on faith because that faith is what gives their lives meaning and the possibility of failure validates their success and emboldens their faith

[faint pivot]

That actually squares the Index a lot better in my mind, thank you for that

[split beacon]

I'm not just spinning a yarn here, we know for a fact that the Index are directed by a God of the City explicitly because they lack direction in their lives via the Library of Ruina artbook

that's what the Prescript exists for

[fickle crown]

I think the other thing with the Index is interpretation through your own lens. It's not always right, but Yan proves that you can still have motivations that coincide with the Index's will

[faint pivot]

Rien too

And Rien Sang

[split beacon]

also Sora

but let me talk about Rien because I think he's extremely funny

he's the worst Proxy

[faint pivot]

I can't imagine this, could you specify exactly how he's the worst? /j

[fickle crown]

He never questions anything

[faint pivot]

I guess the Index were right to off him early what with his faint spurt of volition at the very end

[split beacon]

the picture book thing seems so pointless and like it's a bullshit quirk to humanize Rien and make him seem like a wacky off the wall dude at first

and then you realize

[faint pivot]

More like he constantly questions to the point he's paranoid of being wrong

The joke was riffing off of his need for things to be precise

[split beacon]

yeah Rien is a failure of a Proxy not because he doesn't question

but because he's so neurotic and so devoid of faith in his own interpretation of Prescripts that he needs to be handheld and micromanaged

[faint pivot]

Would fear instead of faith be an apt descriptor?

[split beacon]

absolutely

[atomic steeple]

Dude is attention starved.
I get it, for art you want engagement, connection

[split beacon]

a good Proxy would get a fucking nonsense Prescript, wrack their brains to interpret it, come up with something and then go pedal to the medal on executing it

[atomic steeple]

Hm frost splinter ryoshu

[faint pivot]

Zayin, Teth, Teth, Waw

Huh yeah

Ryo skipped He lmao

[atomic steeple]

https://www.tumblr.com/mayyak/758374063950462976/hey-i-had-a-super-duper-stupid-thought

[split beacon]

she has Thoracalgia

[faint pivot]

Walp Ryo in EGO gear I mean

[fickle crown]

True

[faint pivot]

I feel like Rien would've fit better in the Ring

Shit is more explicit & in your face there

[split beacon]

I dunno, he doesn't seem like the type to have much faith in his artistic vision

[fickle crown]

I thought she had 4th match flame?

Imo Rien would fit better with the middle

[faint pivot]

EGO Gear

[fickle crown]

Oh ok

[eternal gull]

at this point I wouldnt be surprised if they dont fix lob corp because they dont understand how the game actually works at this point

[split beacon]

Rien would be at his most sane, unfortunately, as a Thumbler

[faint pivot]

She's had Penitence, Spider Bud, Solitude, & Faint Aroma

[split beacon]

zero thought required, all actions dictated by protocol

[atomic steeple]

Callisto x Rien

[faint pivot]

Ah right

[fickle crown]

Yeah that's true

[atomic steeple]

Brutal

[faint pivot]

His questioning of "am I doing this right" would 100% do him well there

[eternal gull]

wonder why he never got "cook your head and serve it to your neighbour medium rare'd"

[split beacon]

because Hermes identified him as a weak sister

[faint pivot]

Because that's a falsified prescript lmao

[eternal gull]

good point 😭

[faint pivot]

A huh

[eternal gull]

huh???

[faint pivot]

????

TIL

[fickle crown]

I think there was also a theory that Hermes was also using Rien as a karma dump

[eternal gull]

pray tell lunatic esquire what dost thou meanst!!!

[faint pivot]

damn

[eternal gull]

I see

[faint pivot]

How so?

[eternal gull]

still unless he was like always getting his prescripts done just on time or some shit I dont understand why he wasnt in some way disposed of

[atomic steeple]

Hemes forcefemming him

[faint pivot]

He was disposed of, in the end

I feel like this was a matter of cutting costs

[split beacon]

well, we know that Rien kept a stock of people who had failed Prescripts for rapid completion of his own Prescripts in his fucking kidnapping dungeon

[keen palm]

He followed the Prescripts

[fickle crown]

He's already terrible at his job, I wouldn't be surprised if he was passively accruing bad karma

[eternal gull]

"I... Have to wear this?"
saikai starts playing in the background

[keen palm]

that's all the Will cares about

He's not terrible, he in theory is doing it right, but in practice, wasn't.

[atomic steeple]

He was useful

[keen palm]

Same with the other Nursefathers

They were all technically doing the right thing but doing it the wrong way

[split beacon]

so probably Rien was useful as a function for Hermes to clean up defunct members of the Index even if he had to be micromanaged and receive special treatment to stay useful

[eternal gull]

I mean in fairness what he could manifest shin and found a way to do a version of ||furioso||?

[keen palm]

Rien was a Star of the City so calling him a chump is a gross exaggeration.

[fickle crown]

I think the pieces also start coming together once Rien starts getting shit like a fucking fork or having to stab himself through his own arm. I'm at least halfway sure that worse karma leads to shittier prescripts

[eternal gull]

and then theres mattias

I fuckign HATE matthias

[keen palm]

Matias is also doing the right thing in the wrong way.

[split beacon]

Rien was an extremely dangerous man, he just needed to be kept on a leash and putting him in a special position was what needed to be done

[eternal gull]

DEATH DEATH DEATH

[faint pivot]

I didn't even know pal still made the damn zip code

What ballpark is that??

[keen palm]

Because like, Ricardo got a ton of his boys killed over some hair coupons

Matthias just did it himself

[fickle crown]

Here's the thing, he expresses real brotherhood though

[split beacon]

that being said the Index doesn't actually work like that, having to be kept on a leash as a Proxy is kind of ridiculous

[fickle crown]

Matthias doesn't give a flying fuck about his own kid

[split beacon]

it's kind of an inexcusable failure to Proxy properly

[keen palm]

Yes, right thing, wrong way.

[fickle crown]

He just spoils her without any of the actual love and care required to be a true member of the middle

[eternal gull]

Ricardo (based) did it to fulfill the book™

[faint pivot]

At least Ricardo tries to take revenge yea

[split beacon]

love and care isn't what the Middle requires

[faint pivot]

Matt hardly even pens shit down

[eternal gull]

Matthias (boo he stinks) did it because someone said no you cant have a toy to him 30 years ago and then he proceeds to massacre people for a sword HE CANT EVEN USE

[split beacon]

it's solidarity and violence towards the outgroup

Matthias is a failure because he could not toe the fucking line

[eternal gull]

his toe wasnt anywhere near the fuckin line

[faint pivot]

The line has the span of an 8 lane bridge

[split beacon]

he just haaaad to be a special boy with his special toy, ingroup solidarity be damned

[faint pivot]

Matthias is in the water

Get fucking DUNKED on purple fraud

[split beacon]

something something we had a good thing going you stupid bastard

[atomic steeple]

He's a baby man living in Hermes's basement instead of making decisions

[eternal gull]

-# you know matthias does remind me of the player I compared him to he did nearly decide to sell out his own party members

[fickle crown]

Ah, my bad

[eternal gull]

I love rien he's my favourite boyfailure larpmaxxer

[faint pivot]

He just fucking sits there while a good handful of the playerbase struggle with Arayashiki too

[eternal gull]

I can relate to rien you see, I too larp as a fan of "library of ruina" while having never actually played it

[atomic steeple]

Real funny that Matthias is so hung up on the toy that it appears in detail on his distortion
Moses straight up saw the full name

[faint pivot]

Highly recommend playing it, it's easier than LobCorp at least!

[atomic steeple]

"Goodbye" shitton of damage

[eternal gull]

you could not drag me kicking and fucking screaming to play lobcorp

[fickle crown]

Bruh you think Matthias would just be an evil gunpla if he distorted

[split beacon]

Callisto is easily the funniest of the nursefathers in terms of how they failed because Callisto is literally a hack fraud

[unique bane]

he's also being micromanaged because he has to imitate roland all the time
maybe it's the other way around, he became like that because he was so micromanaged

[split beacon]

that's it

[eternal gull]

HELLO?

[faint pivot]

Manager! Manager! Manager! Manager!

[keen palm]

Distortion hones in on the most traumatic moment of one's life.

[atomic steeple]

Just disassemble him

[eternal gull]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[faint pivot]

Help! Help! Help! Help!

Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?

[atomic steeple]

"Kira, I'm gonna disassemble your dad to make meme builds and post online"

[eternal gull]

gonna add nothing there as an encounter for my lancer campaign. Its just going to randomly place itself in the player deployment zone and pretend to be whatever player is missing that day

[split beacon]

the fact that Matthias's Distortion would be his psyche cracking in two over a limited run toy instead of him murdering two elder brothers for a sword [please do not reply telling me that these are the same thing for him] is so deeply out of pocket

[keen palm]

I think it's easy to read that Matthias' moment is shallow, but the first time your innocence was broken and that realizing entropic forces are at play in your world is a pretty traumatic moment for a lot of people.

[atomic steeple]

Helicopter god hermes

[split beacon]

most people cannot handle that life is actually deeply outside of their control and bad things happen for no reason, they just have better coping strategies

[fickle crown]

I think it just highlights how truly childish he is

[faint pivot]

What's the opposite of a helicopter parent

Like genuine question

[atomic steeple]

Body art was once a movement that gained traction from shock value, but once it wore off it died off

[eternal gull]

neglectful one

[split beacon]

Rien

[faint pivot]

Oh no like

[eternal gull]

or in other words - not a parent at all

[faint pivot]

Antonym of helicopter applied to child

[eternal gull]

ohh

like a uh...

-# fuck...

[split beacon]

prodigal child

[eternal gull]

clingy child?

[atomic steeple]

true, there's that
But he kinda did not move on from thinking like a child

[faint pivot]

It's too late at night for me to synthesize much else so I'm taking this as a truke and moving on

[keen palm]

It's not that he stopped thinking like a child, it's that he endeavored to never feel like that again.

[split beacon]

see the whole thing about Matthias is that he, like most people, had a moment as a kid where he realized that life just ain't fucking fair

but unlike most people

his life is an extended endeavour in shielding himself from further growth

[atomic steeple]

Yeah. Seem people like that

[split beacon]

he's worked very fucking hard to never confront that

[keen palm]

I think Matthias' true failure was seeing family as a material thing.

Instead of an immaterial connection.

There needs to be PHYSICAL PROOF of family.

Which goes against the idea of the Middle

[split beacon]

It's all one thing no? Family is an object to him because a physical token of affection is the fulcrum of his understanding of failure and success states in making your child comfortable

not growing up and not understanding family as an immaterial bond are both the same thing for him

[keen palm]

Idk I think all the Nursefathers are interesting psychologically and I also get mildly annoyed whenever talk about this game devolves into "fraud fraud fraud"

I get very contrarian when that happens

[atomic steeple]

I get it

[keen palm]

Like I'm gonna start throwing bottles at people who keep doing fraud memes regarding Jia Huan and Gubo

[atomic steeple]

"fraud" memes are annoying

[split beacon]

Matthias is more interesting than people give the character credit for because killing a cute girl makes you public enemy #1

[atomic steeple]

The thing with jia huan and gubo is that they're complex and skilled
But also deeply flawed

[fickle crown]

And also they have faulty gear

[keen palm]

Gubo single-handedly reverse-engineered an entire corporation's singularity

[eternal gull]

hey so looking at the wiki

it says wonderlab was removed and decanonised?

depsite being like a full series

whats the uh

does anyone know the reason

[keen palm]

Copyright dispute

[split beacon]

Jia Huan and Gubo are frauds, not because they are lame bums who have nothing going for them but because Jia Huan fronts as a hardcore tyrant legalist and is actually a very sensitive person who's clearly driven by horrible lingering pain and Gubo is a damn tsundere

[keen palm]

With the artist

[eternal gull]

goddamnit

[fickle crown]

There's a Google drive out there with the comic tho

[keen palm]

Then every fuckin character in this series is a fraud!!!!

[split beacon]

thejoke

[keen palm]

Everyone puts on a facade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a thing we can do now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eternal gull]

clearly not my boy don quixote

she would never

right...?

[fickle crown]

Well also Gubo still being so hung up over the massive breakup he just outright has a new league made with help from Hermann because he can't cope with it

[atomic steeple]

Jian huan and gubo just screwed up in that they were inexperienced with their gear at first, but it covers witht he fact there are further powers to unlock and the gear takes measures on its own to help them

[split beacon]

that gear is fucking sinister man

[atomic steeple]

I'm reminded of Saint Seiya

[split beacon]

that N Corp EGO Gear is fucked up and I wouldn't trust it further than I could chuck it

[keen palm]

The Gear fucking up made it a fair fight

Otherwise we would have been as fucked as against Lei Heng

[atomic steeple]

imagine being such a bastard your own armor conspires to have you killed by picking the right moment to abandon you in battle for you to get killed by your own favorite move

[split beacon]

yeah I don't think the N Corp EGO Gear hates its wearers

[fickle crown]

Also the abnormalities willingly letting it be extracted

[split beacon]

what I'm worried about is that it likes them too much

[atomic steeple]

Jia huan is probably a good fighter, but I think gubo is like yi sang in that he's more of a scholar than a fighter

[fickle crown]

Which is downright creepy

[split beacon]

willingly?

do we know that

[atomic steeple]

I would love to befriend an abno and wear its gear

Black Swan is telling me you guys want to take my loved ones

[split beacon]

corrosion enjoyer number one

[atomic steeple]

Sorry, but I gotta shoot you guys full of nettles

nothing personal

[fickle crown]

I think in their ID stories it's stated the abnos were weirdly friendly

Or was it their descs

I forgot

[atomic steeple]

Mimicry is telling me to to mask my autism and pass as my gender by wearing skins

[keen palm]

Abnos seem to like people resonant with them

in as much as they can like anything

[split beacon]

mimicry is about dehumanizing yourself and facing to bloodshed

[fickle crown]

It is darkly funny how Gubo also has the Fell Bullet EGO

I genuinely wonder if he will die blind and bedridden in whatever second Canto Yi Sang gets

[atomic steeple]

Jia Huan had a childhood of training like hong lu, and was way more motivated than him, so he probably is actually cracked

[fickle crown]

(for anyone wondering, it's partially because parallels can be drawn between him having an EGO that lets him shoot people in the back on top of his irl counterpart changing his allegiance to North Korea (and getting bitten in the ass for it))

[keen palm]

He's debuffed several levels

[atomic steeple]

Gubo as seen in leviathan is probably combat capable but was shown to not gauge enemies well, as he challenged vergilius. Then he managed to follow him into the ring facility, so he probably at least fought a few as I don't think verg would defend him much? besides just taking down whoever is in front.
Then gubo managed to retreat with research and aseah
So like, gubo must be competent. But has a way to go

[fickle crown]

Tbf I get the feeling Vergilius probably slaughtered most of the ring members he came across before any of them could reach Gubo

I'm not gonna say he's totally incompetent, but he's in the same position as Yi Sang where he's a lot less combat oriented than he should be

[gentle mulch]

THAT'S RIGHT
MOSES
PRANK EM

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-crimson-point-moses-vespa-toji-death-gif-17572870754418335499

[fickle crown]

He'll never escape the Toji allegations

[atomic steeple]

I mentioned that
I meant that some probably slipped by or attacked from the rear

[gentle mulch]

toji never fucking told megumi anything he was just like. ohh not zenin...dope [kills self]

which is hilarious

[atomic steeple]

Gubo is also probably like yi sang in that what he brings to the team is helping with the tech

[atomic steeple]

Granted, he probably thought he shouldn't reveal he was his father
He was never there for him, then attacked with intent to kill. Spare the kid complicated feelings

[gentle mulch]

My personal interpretation to his thought process is "Damn... I'm broke as fuck. I probably can't go back to sports betting again like this"

[keen palm]

Gojo never told him who he was either

[fickle crown]

I can't make the joke I'm going to make

[atomic steeple]

Yeah. Besides mimicry of humans, there's a strong theme of aggression
One flavor text is an employee shaking from the hatred exuding off nothing there

[fickle crown]

Ngl, I always wondered if NI is more jealousy than hatred (even though it's decanonized technically)

[atomic steeple]

NI?

[fickle crown]

Nobody Is was a Nothing There aberration in Wonderlab

Mostly focused more around stealing both the identity and form of the victim

It's less wearing the skin more wearing the entire person

[atomic steeple]

I mean, nothing there does pretend to be the person too
If badly

[signal kindle]

What are aberrations

[split beacon]

variants on an abnormality

[fickle crown]

I mean Nobody Is specifically wants an identity for itself

It doesn't just meaninglessly mimic people, it actively yearns to have some form of existence

[signal kindle]

I like it’s cute little breathing noises

[atomic steeple]

You know how limbus has hurting teddy bear, a counterpart to happy teddy bear?

[split beacon]

for instance, Funeral of the Dead Butterflies, which embodies release from a life of servitude through death, has an Aberration called Funeral of a Dying Butterfly that instead embodies a salaryman dying of overwork

[signal kindle]

So they’re like lesser versions of their primary abno

[split beacon]

not necessarily lesser

[atomic steeple]

Ebony stem is a variant to snow white's apple

[signal kindle]

Abnormalities represent general ideas whereas aberrations are more specific

[split beacon]

there are Aberrations that are more dangerous than the original

[signal kindle]

I see

[split beacon]

oh in terms of concept it's kind of a toss-up

some Aberrations are more specific focuses on a general theme their original Abnormality focuses on, others are the other way around and generalize a specific relationship or idea

[atomic steeple]

Though backwards clock is not gonna make a reapoearance as a backer abno, you could consider steam transport machine an aberration

[fickle crown]

There was also Titania (another wonderlab abno) that was an ALEPH ranked variant of Fairy Festival as an example of a stronger aberration

[split beacon]

Steam Transport Machine is an aberration of Backwards Clock

[fickle crown]

And sometimes they switch roles too

[split beacon]

it's also a really interesting Abnormality especially taken in context of Backwards Clock, it seems like the Steam Transport Machine takes the idea of returning to the past through a sacrifice and reverses it

[atomic steeple]

The red freeshooter is an aberration of blue freeshooter

[split beacon]

instead of sacrificing a person to return to a better time, STM turns time itself into a resource and consumes it

[signal kindle]

“Procuration annihilate”
Stunned
“Raise alaugh the blade”
Suppreessed

I kill it
So fast I
Don’t even know
The lore

😔

[cloud wadi]

Would Cassandra be an index weaver

[split beacon]

Crushbound Past kinda elaborates on the theme

[atomic steeple]

The egos really show how deep down, meursault is Going Through It

[split beacon]

Crushbound Past is actually so interesting for Meursault

like

[atomic steeple]

Former index member constantly foiled by the index

[split beacon]

that's a fucking weak ass abno and Meursault resonates with it to the point that it becomes a freight train superweapon EGO

[fickle crown]

Meursault having Pursuance is also such a deeply ironic thing

[split beacon]

and more importantly

[cloud wadi]

He gets a lot of egos about regretting his past

[split beacon]

you know how you can tell that Meursault's past is bleeding through and dyeing Crushbound Past in his hue

4 coins

4 strikes

[atomic steeple]

Milk meursault for the waw amounts of enkephalin

[split beacon]

he's tweaking so hard he turned an EGO into Greater Des Coups

[fickle crown]

Also I should preface this by saying that for its time it was actually pretty strong, it's just totally outscaled nowadays

[split beacon]

also yanno it's an EGO that literally converts the past into ammunition for attacking with and it's drawing on (presumably) the worst moments of Meursault's life to beat someone to death

[atomic steeple]

Meursault finds gloom peccatula very unpleasant due to his memories

[cloud wadi]

It’s an ego about carrying weight

He’s carrying the weight of his past

And it’s strong enough to be a waw

[fickle crown]

But yeah, Steam Transport Machine was a fucking pain in the ass for me

[split beacon]

yeah Meursault is carrying a deep, heavy sorrow and it resonates with Steam Transport Machine enough that his Crushbound Past EGO is a meme that does a billion damage if you do the funny setup

[fickle crown]

Also dread the day STM is properly upscaled

[split beacon]

line 2 bokgak baby

[atomic steeple]

We have regret, in which he calls himself too violent to be restrained

I hope we get hornet ego meursault, to pair with the id

[cloud wadi]

Maybe in a future walpurgisnacht

[split beacon]

well, "too violent to be restrained" is just Forsaken Murderer

like that's the whole theme there

[atomic steeple]

Queen bee is interesting
I wouldn't have thought to focus on her gaze for meursault thenes

[split beacon]

meursault has a mom thing going on

which, hey

[gentle mulch]

hey

[fickle crown]

Billions must suffer next turn paralyze

[split beacon]

Ryoshu canto done time for the other person with mom related issues

[gentle mulch]

how many mom related issues can we fit into this bus??

[atomic steeple]

Yup, I know

Hm, meursault mom id

[cloud wadi]

Who would be Meursault’s mom

[atomic steeple]

Outis, ryoshu

You know, there's an interesting aspect to queen bee in that she (and the kingdom, as she is the hive) will never be complete

She stays maimed and ripped

No matter how hard she works her bees

[atomic steeple]

Hod: I had been considering continuing the counseling program without Angela's knowledge… But it's okay, I'll put a stop to it.

X: Right. Then the enkephalin?

Hod: I'd requisitioned a very large amount, but Netzach offered to help dispose of it so I let him take care of it.

X: …

Hod: ...Um… I just realized why that was a bad idea.

Hod: I'm… going to go check on him.

Hod: Yes. P-please do.

[mystic ermine]

hmm?

ah, nevermind, they explained it

[cloud wadi]

yeah

because W Corp is opening up access to trains to more people and slashing ticket prices

more unsavory types are boarding the train

and becoming weirdoes

also they are sucking more time than ever so passengers have even more time to develop into monsters

[lean fjord]

They gotta increase their margins, with L Corp gone

[split beacon]

I’m telling you, the W Corp roguelike would go hard

[lean fjord]

It would

[mystic ermine]

huh, damn, she's... quite good at the whole commanding thing

interestin

[atomic steeple]

W corp is really struggling

W corp heath mentions the desperate measures

[split beacon]

You play as a cleanup crew during the last days of W Corp. and your job is to try and keep up with the ever increasing demands on your crew, their psychological decay from facing day after day of car cleanups, and the mounting number of disaster cars, Wayfarer Corp sabotage and assault, and other nefarious groups that would see the WARP train stop running

[atomic steeple]

Apparently, dunno if it was from him or speculation, but more intense emotional moments are more efficient for time collection

[split beacon]

Neither

[atomic steeple]

So letting shit hit the fan in the trains is more profitanle

[split beacon]

We know for a fact that emotions are what makes time flow in the WARP car

Hubert directly tells us as such

[lean fjord]

It's the whole reason they need passengers

[mystic ermine]

FORESHADOWING

Outis is on her way home

[bronze zephyr]

oh wacky, ik theres cameras that depend on emotional fluctuation but

[cloud wadi]

outis is legitimately a good commander

[mystic ermine]

after the oddysey

[lean fjord]

It's the common theme of Outis

[cloud wadi]

you see moments of her brilliance in canto 9

[lean fjord]

She can never come back, no matter how hard she tries

[cloud wadi]

and every time she actually is given a leadership role in the mirror world stories

she tends to be really skilled

and also a rather caring commander

[atomic steeple]

Ah, does w heath mention the company letting things get worse for more yield?

[cloud wadi]

her notable character 'flaw' is that she's way, way too willing to engage in devil's bargain despite those traits

[split beacon]

He just says that they’re working the agents way harder

[atomic steeple]

The magic bullet ego

Which she tries to game into killing her

[cloud wadi]

like if she sees a way to win at great cost to herself and her men

she will take that option

she only folds when she sees no option to win

even though folding early might have avoided some of her losses

[split beacon]

In fairness she has been conditioned to bargain with the devil if she’s Odysseus

[cloud wadi]

and also her skill as a commander means that her men are willing to follow her even though they are, in fact, in a sinking ship on a path to doom

[lean fjord]

It's honestly much more insane that before that, she just gaslights herself into thinking she has no loved ones to circumvent the curse

[mystic ermine]

in fairness

the bullet does come for her

[cloud wadi]

like her udjats think that their job is good and praises her skill and knowledge as a commander

even though in fact, the job tried to get them killed

[atomic steeple]

Though I think if she saw her family, the bullet would hit one of them

[cloud wadi]

or how her W Corp followers obey and follow her

even though they are, in fact, in a dying company who doesn't give a shit about them

[atomic steeple]

Granted, they would have a hard time finding another job

I'm curious what matthias outis will be like

Considering the other versions of her are so responsible

[cloud wadi]

I think matthias outis would still want to return home

so considers her exile to the spiders house to be akin to odysseus being stuck with calypso for a dozen years

[mystic ermine]

maybe only loyal / determined towards the cause of the House of Spiders
and nothing else; including the apprentices

[cloud wadi]

ishmael is her nurse child but not her "real" child

so only gets superficial love

[atomic steeple]

Sucking at taking care of her apprentice is a stark contrast to our outis, who saw it as a requirement to feed her men well

[cloud wadi]

mmm

not actually true

her exact quote regarding that is

[atomic steeple]

She puts her 100% on tasks

[cloud wadi]

"I prefer instant foods"

which is what Matthias gives Kira

she can cook though

[mystic ermine]

ishmael is well cared for, well fed
but just not..

cared about by Outis

[cloud wadi]

yeah

outis buys her magazines when requested

but not the right type of magazines

[atomic steeple]

Better than matthias already lol

[cloud wadi]

i think outis matthias is just superficially nice to kiramael

[atomic steeple]

The mom who doesn't understand her kid

[cloud wadi]

but doesn't really care about raising her

ishmael isn't her real daughteer

and she has greater goals

[atomic steeple]

I can see middle outis doing all the needs and requirements of raising ish, but not caring beyond that
Food, training, stuff she wants

[cloud wadi]

yeah

more like augments these days

of the nursechildren I think Kira has been the most invested in terms of cash for augments

albina is a unique case and will be set aside for this discussion because it seems like she did most of the prosthetic work on her body by herself

so can't really tell how much callisto invested in her etc

[atomic steeple]

Outis back in canto 5 was big on sailing without a system helping
Middle id is a different version of course, but she could see skills as necessary for proper training
Ishmael is more useful with some investment

[cloud wadi]

but yeah Matthias seems to have been paying out of his pocket (well, the Middle organization's pocket) for Kira's augments

[cloud wadi]

legitimately in canto 5 i think she was too embarassed to admit she doesn't understand the bus' controls

[atomic steeple]

True

[cloud wadi]

and played it off by saying "WELL BACK IN MY DAYS WE DIDN'T NEED COMPLICATED ELECTRONIC CONTROLLLLS"

[atomic steeple]

I guess it'll depend on how potentially useful she sees ishmael as, if given training

Also I just realized the Scissors ego fits the manchild vibe of matthias

[cloud wadi]

of course it won't stop her from turning ishmael into ish/mael if she sees an opportunity to critically injure a color fixer with ishmael as sacrifice

[gentle mulch]

"Ahh the augments just let you hit things harder huh? Cool. Glad I'm not dealing with more prescript shit."

How do I turn off double tap emojis

[cloud wadi]

no idea

ita plague upon discord

[worthy haven]

||need more Argus Unit lore drops asap!||

[cloud wadi]

i do like how Outis falls hook line and sinker into Moses' probing

she's pretty skilled in drawing truths out of other people that she forgets that others can do the same to her

like Moses just briefly mentions a special unit in the smoke war's name and Outis immediately gives out an analysis that outs herself as a pretty high ranking member of the smoke war lmao

[gentle mulch]

Has she just

blurted out this shit to someone other than Dante otherwise?

[cloud wadi]

she mentions that she fought in the war a lot

and that she was pretty big deal back then

but never anything that implied any actual in depth knowledge

argus unit is the first time she revealed insight

[gentle mulch]

maybe moses is just that cracked

[keen palm]

Its easy to assume however

Given shes the second most powerful sinner

And even after getting her ass kicked by Sancho, assumed shed rank 1st

[atomic steeple]

Are sinclair and faust the only good n corp fanatics?

[keen palm]

Depends if you consider n sault cheese good

[gentle mulch]

Outis is usually like really good about information leaks and whatnot, with Udjat Outis putting a dent in Dias' plans for the sinners by outmaneuvering the weapon sabotage

[keen palm]

Though I was using n heath and n rodya early on

[gentle mulch]

and then just smashing in riens head

[atomic steeple]

I see
Situationally good I guess

[gentle mulch]

but i guess she's just weak to old smoking women..

[fickle crown]

Well there's also the whole thing with Moses basically being able to literally see through most people and make deductions based on their visible distorted features

[gentle mulch]

#1208554035326484531 message

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I love how Outis is always the mf that's like "I could outsmart any prophecy or contract. I could solve the Death Note. I'm better than that"

[vagrant dove]

I need her commentary on Meursault honestly, hopefully we get it in the upcoming intervallo

Worlds most distorted man

[gentle mulch]

I want a scene where Moses makes a deduction on Meursault and he goes "That is an appropriate assessment for the information you are most likely to see about myself. However--" and just lets us know that we can just. Ask him about anything really

[cloud wadi]

yeah

only thing I think Meursault won't do

is lie

I don't think he'll lie even when ordered to

[gentle mulch]

because why would he not tell the truth? there is no reason to hold that back

[cloud wadi]

I think lying is his one red line

[vagrant dove]

The other red line being incorrectly prepared food

[cloud wadi]

he's actually fine with incorrectly prepared food surprisingly

he just won't hesitate to tell people that is bad

lmao

but he was perfecty okay with following gregor's horrible directions

at least until heathcliff shoved the plate into his mouth

[gentle mulch]

Because why not? He has no reason to disobey

[vagrant dove]

I do like how decievingly simple his introduction is

[cloud wadi]

but yeah the taste of gregor's horrible cooking was sufficient to cause him to give out his full opinion unprompted

[gentle mulch]

I am so fucking curious about Meursault given how much Book Meursault seems to be in him

[cloud wadi]

i think he did kill someone for... pretty unjustifiable reasons

[gentle mulch]

I think that's a normal circumstance for most if not all sinners tbf

[cloud wadi]

I don't think that's his sin though yeah

[gentle mulch]

There's gotta be something that makes The Incident especially regrettable

[cloud wadi]

his real sin was that he was born the way he is

which also is book meursault's sin

[gentle mulch]

god im so excited for that canto

[cloud wadi]

blade lineage kira...

y/n

[minor gust]

distortion fans i have a question about ||Dias, How did she get so fucking rich?||

[cloud wadi]

literally nobody knows

[vagrant dove]

Unknown

[split beacon]

I think the speculation in-universe is Wack Ass Investing on top of inherited wealth?

[cloud wadi]

i don't think its really ever elucidated

[vagrant dove]

We can probably guess that at least some of it was spoils of war from the ||Smoke War||, but she was ludicrously rich even before that

[minor gust]

like she rich enough for ||guns, and having a masnion in every nests from what iread||

[gentle mulch]

she made a bet with the head saying "lol ur not gonna get the corpse of garion back from the library bozo, I'll bet my entire family's assets and triple my debt value if you win"

[vagrant dove]

Entire ||private army masquerading as a fixer office rich||

[cloud wadi]

||she's rich enough to have a mansion in every nest and she could feed everyone in every backstreets with rich meals every day and it won't hurt her bottom line||

[gentle mulch]

My actual crackpot theory is that she's like Bari in some way and just had the time to make that much money

[minor gust]

wait, is she a literary referecne to ||ozymandias? very egyptian theme||

[cloud wadi]

the mansions she treats with about the same reverence as you might treat a fancy pair of dress shoes in your closet you only occasionally remember you have

yes

she is Ozymandias

[minor gust]

so if we base it off the poem? right? euther the whole thing will get lost to time

[cloud wadi]

probably more relevant is that Ozymandias is the Pharaoh

and we have a character named Moses

[minor gust]

exodus limbus comapny arc when

[atomic steeple]

Angela: Just do your best. The trial will always be there another day should you need more time.

X: Nah, let's just do it now. I might tear my hair out, but what's it done for me lately anyways?

Angela: Presumably it keeps your head warm, X.

X: ...Yes, thank you Angela. I would have had no idea.

Angela: It is no trouble.

Next time, on Lobotomy Corporation: Netzach tries to kill Netzach because he's an AI and this is a video game.

...wait.

[uneven canopy]

what if an AI had the worst drug trip of his life

[quaint cliff]

minor canto 9 spoilers

||https://files.catbox.moe/jt6wy7.mp4||

major nostalgia

[eternal gull]

why in lob corp is it invaded by fixers

wasnt it like a secretive facility in the middle of a nest

[fickle crown]

It's memories of fixers

[atomic steeple]

X: If you insist, Yesod. Just keep an eye out for that Violet Noon.

Yesod: ...wait, what Noon?

It then fell on the room he was in, lmao

[fickle crown]

Not real fixers

The ordeals are unique to Lobotomy HQ and are basically Ayin's traumas made manifest

[atomic steeple]

Yesod: So I was the one who couldn’t see a single step ahead…

[atomic steeple]

Well, probably him resonating with the city's traumas

[fickle crown]

That too

But the White ordeals specifically seem to be very particular to Ayin and his counterparts

[eternal gull]

I see :3

[atomic steeple]

Fixers and claws are part of the city's system of violence

And claws specifically attacked the outskirts lab alongside an arbiter

Green ordeals are existencialism and the machine war from long ago
Plus it's mentione Ayin apparently hated robots, in the Snow Queen logs

[stoic fjord]

hrm

it's occured to me that Hong Lord and the heishous are pretty much just what would happen if you went "how can we make Pequod Ishmael but with zero weaknesses"

[fickle crown]

Imo I do think that the claws do have a place in Ayin's heart specifically due to the whole

Pre-L-Corp facility raid

[stoic fjord]

pandora says this immediately after

[fickle crown]

Idk if it's ever known whether or not the Head also sent fixers there but I wouldn be surprised if that was the case

I can't read lmao

[stoic fjord]

honestly I feel like they would see no need to

like I just doubt they hire fixers for much of anything

[fickle crown]

Either that or those were maybe prominent fixers seen during the smoke war, though I also have doubts about this

[stoic fjord]

the fact we get a nod to them during canto 8, iirc, with the shot of all the factions, is interesting to me

like

is this just a fun little nod to L Corp? or is this some crazy shit being foreshadowed?

[fickle crown]

Their equipment is very unusual too

At least for fixers anyways

Like the white damage cannon, the pale fixer's armaments

It's all a little bit weird

[fickle crown]

Also it is actually kinda funny how Hohenheim indirectly resembles the Black Fixer

The only thing he's missing is the hammer and he technically has one

Black Fixer and Hohenheim side by side

The Black Fixer is also weird to me because they (whoever they are) seem more like an outskirts dweller than an actual fixer

[keen palm]

Could be one of the few that immigrated

[stoic fjord]

the fucking yellow and black bird eye

I just KNOW that fucking motif is important in some giant fucking way and it'll all connect somehow and that the cuckoos have SOMETHING to do with Big Bird I just don't know what

[fickle crown]

But yeah, Hohenheim resembling the Black Fixer is just weirdly funny

I don't think it was intentional but still

[keen palm]

A nebula can be seen as a big eye in the center of a black space.....

[stoic fjord]

I think that's kind of a reach I'm moreso thinking the yellow and black and specifically the weird ringed eyes

[main scaffold]

Don't see the resemblance tbh

ganransu. ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Black Fixer and Hohenheim side by side 📎

[atomic steeple]

Enoch is a troubling kid

Oh so Ayin hated touching grass

And sunlight made him too sad

[lean fjord]

Ayin is too locked in to touch grass

Also Carmen

[fickle crown]

It's mostly the goggles and outfit for me

That and also the general black forest theming

[atomic steeple]

I can't tell how generous a Qliphoth Counter of 5 that lowers every 5 deaths and increases by one on good work is
Seems workable as long as clerks don't get massacred?

[fickle crown]

Fairly workable

[atomic steeple]

Ah, finally birdzodia/apocalypse bird

[fickle crown]

I have rarely had a non purposefully done Big Bird breach

[wintry fiber]

big bird is fine yeah

[split beacon]

post-carmen Ayin becomes the insane grass phobic lunatic yes

[atomic steeple]

Actual shut in

The answer lay in machines. Machines, which A loathed deeply, became essential to him. Perhaps A wanted to have Wings that would allow him to escape from the hellish inferno he had trapped himself in, to reach the heavens.

[quartz sun]

I believe the community refers to Big Bird and those like him as Clerk Rights Advocates.

[stoic fjord]

clerk rights advocates vs. QoH, one of the main proponents alongside X of the idea that Clerks have no value

[atomic steeple]

In summary: A became obsessed with figuring out a way to fix things without relying on humans, who he didn't trust anymore. The answer is robots. We also find out that A despises robots.

[main scaffold]

Why is A like this

Apparently, T Rodion gets 1 less borrowed time than the other T Corp IDs

[fickle crown]

A probably had some antisocial behaviors on top of trauma beforehand and the repeated catastrophies just repeatedly ruined him to the point where he became the absolute wreck he is today

[fickle crown]

Also tbf this makes sense

She is a rank lower than Don and Outis

[main scaffold]

Yeh

[main scaffold]

I like how T Outis's voice lines are sped up even when she isn't in Borrowed Time

[atomic steeple]

Lmao

Every time an Abnormality escapes, there is a 30% chance that the QC drops by 1. There does not appear to be an exception in the code for Punishing Bird. Also, most of Gebura's missions involve letting Abnormalities break out in order to suppress them. I had completely forgotten this rule when choosing Abnormalities yesterday. I've made a terrible mistake.

[main scaffold]

I just realized that Aroma Ryoshu's support passive lets 🎴 Ishmael tremor burst twice per attack

[stoic fjord]

is this about Red Riding Hooded Mercenary?

I remember reading that there is, but maybe they fucked that up?

[atomic steeple]

Parasite tree

[stoic fjord]

ahhhhhh

[cloud wadi]

is the City ontologically evil

[lean fjord]

no it's evil in a more banal way

[quaint cliff]

Hmm, makes me curious how nicely the good Cap’n’s facade plays with Hong Lord.

[cosmic gorge]

Captain Ish facade on an ish id with a multihit S3

Harpoon pole spinnnn

[quaint cliff]

doin tricks on it 🤯

[stoic fjord]

iirc it makes Xishmael genuinely fucking move like cultivated xichun on S3

or

wait no hold on it'd be

projecting captain ishmael

[atomic steeple]

Next is -109, which is also an ALEPH and one of the most infamous Abnormalities in the game for… let's say 'several reasons.' The one relevant right now is its tricky handling rules, which effectively require us being able to have an agent be completely alone while dealing with it. I'll be honest-I almost took it, just because its position would be ideal for dealing with it-the upper layer of Disciplinary would only have it and a tool Abnormality, and I could set whoever was working with it on the upper layer of Disciplinary's main room and largely forget about them. If not for the missions we have coming up making it impossible to avoid having Agents scrambling every which way, we'd be grabbing it today. In the end, though, this is another definite no right now.

[bronze zephyr]

checkup tmrw..........event resources........

[gentle mulch]

event resources...

[bronze zephyr]

exp tickets....thread....

[stoic fjord]

Announcer...

[bronze zephyr]

enkephalin boxes......

[cloud wadi]

enkephalin

[quaint cliff]

BOOZE

[bronze zephyr]

gay

[stoic fjord]

Genuinely and unironically planning on getting NClair to run burn bleed double status in MD

[stoic fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqto8JkpAws

2 things from this

1. what the fuck?
2. people don't like facades, apparently

[bronze zephyr]

17 turns.

[main scaffold]

Why does that video seem like it's running at like 90% speed

[stoic fjord]

might be some of the facades being a bit fucky on the IDs in terms of animation speed

[main scaffold]

Maybe yeah

Or maybe it's the frame rate, even Maost seems slower than usual

Unrelated, I have no idea what the spend the instant threadspin 4 thing on

[stoic fjord]

tcosm is strong

[main scaffold]

📝

Both of them I assume?

[fickle crown]

Def use it on your WAW or HE EGOs (whichever ones you use more)

ZAYIN thru TETH aren't nearly as shard hungry

[faint pivot]

Facade anims inherent the original speed of the skill you're using

So if a facade's skill 3 lasts 1 second and the actual ID's skill 3 lasts 1.5 seconds, it'll seem as if the sinner is moving 1.5 times slower

[faint pivot]

I'm personally saving it for when our first Aleph drops

[main scaffold]

It can only be used for WAW or below

[faint pivot]

Ah dang

Next season then lmao

Cause I already got my EGOs to ts3

[main scaffold]

Once again wondering why they gave asymmetrical inertia to heathcliff
Is crushbound past any good?

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Unrelated, I have no idea what the spend the instant threadspin 4 thing on 📎

[gentle mulch]

man

[main scaffold]

Wait it's a tremor EGO that doesn't use pride

[gentle mulch]

another two weeks of not pulling for anything

[main scaffold]

That's a good place to be for a tremor EGO

[gentle mulch]

already have a monopoise meursault..
already have a pierce ryoshu..
Harmony I actually want but id rather not roll for ego
faust ego is a he so it's competing with every other faust he
gregorheim is monoslash..

i suppose i could get him for charge rupture

oh actually you know what

i could get him for charge rupture sinking

[main scaffold]

That's a lot of words for "tremor burst up to 4 times and do a fuck ton of damage"

[gentle mulch]

and 9 attack weight :)

it's nuts

only gripe for me is that i really need a sinking-rupture id to replace sunshower

[keen palm]

We get that 10 wave thing tomorrow rite

[main scaffold]

the what thing

[gentle mulch]

should be

the thing where you can queue up a bunch of luxcavation fights and turn them into a chain battle

[main scaffold]

Oohhhhhh

Didn't know that was a thing

[gentle mulch]

which is helpful to me because i wanna spend like 40 modules on that immediately

[main scaffold]

Same

[fickle crown]

Btw does anyone else like using Middle Ish?

[keen palm]

Ye

I do the current Middle Lux with a Middle Team

especially since Teddy is also good into them

[fickle crown]

Also it's actually a little funny knowing she has good synergy with Dulcineon

Benefits from burn and bleed and Dulcineon can buff herself and others while also having a fairly strong S2

Plus Hurting Teddy EGO for Envy

[keen palm]

Can't wait for Outis

[fickle crown]

Same

[gentle mulch]

this is what i use for bluntlux

i wish i had more

we're getting middle outis so im saving for that

[fickle crown]

I do wonder if she gains a buff if Middle Ish dies

[gentle mulch]

and bremor duo im saving for that

olmao

i know kjh teased that ryoshu will get buffs when HoS IDs die

[fickle crown]

I think that's just gonna be a regular trend going forward

[gentle mulch]

yeah

[fickle crown]

Since Doncho and Lord Lu also benefit from units dying

[gentle mulch]

limbus has been in a like

theyve been emphasizing "hey let your sinners die" for a long while now

several seasons

[keen palm]

It's thematic

[fickle crown]

Ngl though it's actually like

Hard for me to let my sinners die most of the time

Mostly because I'm so fucking packed on the healing EGOs

Having Meursault and Rodion equipped with Pursuance is just

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

Nobody gets to die

I think the only time I maybe suffered deaths this entire canto was from Sora and Rien (and one accidental Faust explosion)

Oh also Gregor

But y'know

That's because I was stupid

I will admit though, I kinda wish King Gregor could get some bind because I got screwed on my second attempt due to some horrendous speed rolls

[gentle mulch]

yeah