#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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signal kindle
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Autism

vagrant dove
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Hongler strikes me as the base beautifier

vagrant dove
signal kindle
hybrid lynx
vagrant dove
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Truthnukes both

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Sinclair's the person still learning how the game works

hybrid lynx
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"How do I craft an anvil?"
"S.I.J.E.I."
"Oh!"

vagrant dove
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Villains wise, Dongrang makes the most awful (in terms of cruelty to mobs) automated farms you've ever seen

hybrid lynx
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ahab discovers modding and starts making a pallid whale mod just so she can kill it in game

vagrant dove
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On a mad quest to kill the ender dragon

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(Ishmael gets there first)

hybrid lynx
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nobody tell her about the end crystal revive thing, it'd be so funny

vagrant dove
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Erlking Heathcliff is the RDMer, but specifically only to Heathcliff

vagrant dove
hybrid lynx
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dante figured out the ||malkuth durante|| and summoned erlking just for this

gentle mulch
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Erlking Heathcliff is the worst guy to have with proximity vc

hybrid lynx
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round and round we go

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what's ||papa quixote|| doing?

stoic fjord
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are we genuinely latching onto Penelope Dante theory in any real capacity

is there anything at all in any source media or history that could sort of make it make sense

vagrant dove
gentle mulch
hybrid lynx
vagrant dove
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I want more Moses-Outis interaction

They know each other!!! Let them loredump...

gentle mulch
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i ww nat tnhem to kiss to

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o

cosmic gorge
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Slr, was breaking down

Uhhh.the ttrpg strat where you gain hp by killing things

While the intent is to use it in combat/against enemies, the loophole is to have a bag or rats to kill for a quick hp snack

vagrant dove
gentle mulch
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an dhe rr

cosmic gorge
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Bag of Rats means "thinking up a 'clever' out of box solution in a non aesthetically pleasing way"

vagrant dove
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I require my favourite morally dubious at best scarily charismatic bond villain to interact with the idiosyncracies of the sinners

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Or dant

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It would be peak

cosmic gorge
gentle mulch
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kiss s

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i cant fucking wait for this bad end ryoshu

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it's coming out the week after walp ends iirc

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fuuuuuck FUUUUUUCK FUUUUUCK I NEED TO SEE WHAT IT IS

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i just noticed there's a thunder sfx for YMFTCTB

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he's so auraful

dusty sigil
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Odysseus is seen suffering in hell

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But not Penelope

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Ok she is mentioned, when talking about Odysseus loving her

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She is otherwise not seen in inferno

cosmic gorge
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Still funny how Dante Alighieri's sense of weird mythic nationalism had him put Odysseus in hell for being why Troy (italy's supposed ancestor via Aeneas) is sacked

dusty sigil
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Yah, Dante I think puts every Greek hero in the Trojan war in hell

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Due to their war being against Troy

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Yah Achilles is also in hell for his lust

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(Though that may be more due to him being gay then greek)

stoic fjord
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little more than henchpeople? the most important part of this rube goldberg machine of a company? something in between?

gentle mulch
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i imagine the same way she sees her top of the top elite soldiers

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stepping stones

vagrant dove
stoic fjord
keen palm
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YEAAAAAAAAAAH

vagrant dove
dusty sigil
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Useful but dreadfully uninterested tools

keen palm
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The entire operation is built around the bus

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Everything and everyone else is a bonus

stoic fjord
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true

keen palm
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Nothing else ultimately matters except the boughs

dusty sigil
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The difference in the way she treats Moses and Ezra compared to Vespa is kinda palpable

vagrant dove
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like I don't doubt that when we stop being useful Dias will stop caring

stoic fjord
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I think Canto 5 is an exception that proves the rule with regards to uhhhh

keen palm
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And seemingly only the sinners can get the boughs

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
stoic fjord
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and even then it's just stated, we don't necessarily know that the LCA could obliterate the whale

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though I wouldn't doubt it

dusty sigil
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The sinners are destined to return to their pasts and collect the boughs

stoic fjord
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but in every other canto, yeah, you need the bus team

vagrant dove
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when not sabotaged, the Udjat are a very formidable force yeah

keen palm
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I do think at that point they couldn't

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Like the Indigo Elder didnt actually do jack shit against the Pallid Whale

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At that point only Ishmael could kill it

stoic fjord
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while fair, the Indigo Elder is just one color fixer

keen palm
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Thats not my point

stoic fjord
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Dias has Corp levels of resources, even if she isn't the head of a corp

dusty sigil
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I think the indigo elder thought he could kill it with Vergilius’s help, but one of them would absolutely die in the fight

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So like, make of that what you will

gentle mulch
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the answer to these sorts of questions is: "i mean i guess but that's too expensive to ever humor"

keen palm
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My point is that the Bough had fused into the whale and that meant at that point mundane power doesnt matter

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Plot dictates what happens next

stoic fjord
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ohhhh right yeah that is true

keen palm
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The LCA and Indigo and Vergilus could all team up but because they arent destined to win, because theres no emotional resonance if they did, they cant

dusty sigil
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Oh yah

keen palm
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Thats why Ishmael's harpoon did more damage to the whale than the Indigo Elder's

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Because she is Ishmael

dusty sigil
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Makes sense, the treacherous Ishmael is the only reason the righteous captain ahab couldn’t slay the whale that was rightfully hers to slay

faint pivot
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Nay, Angela says that it's nonsense though

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The acronym and its meaning, I mean

gentle mulch
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😭

faint pivot
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Frankly incredible that there's still so much we don't know about

gentle mulch
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with one of the most tossed around acronyms in the entire franchise being undefined

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i am not worried at all abt pinky lore

faint pivot
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Yeah like

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There is so fucking much

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Project Moon is cramming so much info density into this setting

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That frankly I'm MORE than satisfied with the little crumbs we're getting

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Pinkies could control the backstreets by having Wings eat them up for all I care

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There's just like

gentle mulch
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pinkies could straight up be like we dont feel like managing our own territories lolll and ill 👍

faint pivot
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Also remind me, when was the concept of a Finger introduced? If it was all the way in Ruina then it could be outdated

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Alternatively the Pinky could be rehashing it

keen palm
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Ruina

faint pivot
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Like how Limbus is redifining EGO with Dante's EGO system

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Or Ruina did with its own EGO system

keen palm
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Also Ruina has never particularly been retconned?

faint pivot
keen palm
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Saying something is outdated because it was in Ruina, the game before Limbus, is saying that Limbus retconned something yea

faint pivot
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Okay yeah but like

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I don't concretely know about how the Pinky handles this 'responsibility' to say that

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Hense the question

gentle mulch
faint pivot
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But like

keen palm
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We know that the Pinky has to in some way hold territory because that's what the Fingers do

faint pivot
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Is what Dante doing even part of the original definition

keen palm
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and we have never been told the Pinky doesn't so there's no reason to assume they don't

faint pivot
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I'm not saying that they aren't controlling territory

gentle mulch
faint pivot
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I'm speculating on what the Pinky is as a writing piece/Thing in relation to the other Fingers

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Since yeah it's very very special

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It infiltrates other Fingers

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Limited slots, etc. etc.

stoic fjord
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something that I'm reminded of

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biologically, iirc, roughly uhhh

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33% of your grip strength comes from your pinky?

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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but from what I can tell, that's ring and pinky combined

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and is in fact kind of false due to being overstated

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but the pinky does do a lot for your grip strength due to which muscles it's connected to iirc

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despite being the smallest finger

faint pivot
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Funky

stoic fjord
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basically what I'm trying to say is that if the idea of ||The Palm is more than de facto collaboration, I suspect the Pinky is most directly related and is the most involved|| Canto 9 spoilers, sort of

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is my guess

faint pivot
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I suppose that's why one of our first examples is openly part of another finger

faint pivot
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The little we know so far support this

stoic fjord
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thank you random biology trivia book for giving me fuel for Limbus theories

gentle mulch
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it's fun to speculate; it certainly does help pass the time in between events

faint pivot
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Project Moon practically invites us to, anyway

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They sprinkle in so much stuff that'll be relevant later on

stoic fjord
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the two things keeping me going until the next content drop

  1. Lugong (zilu x zigong) fanart (also fanart in general)
  2. batshit insane speculation
faint pivot
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Like I did NOT expect the goddamned clocktower scene to be relevant this canto

gentle mulch
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lugong auuuuuhhh

stoic fjord
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rn I'm just like

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fucking digging through everything I can find on Alriune

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to try and speculate on Meursault

gentle mulch
stoic fjord
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wait

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no

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queen bee

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I'm stupid

gentle mulch
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like yeah of course she would know the exact time it takes for her cig to go out she's ryoshu she's just Like That

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and then it's like ohhh

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oh.

gentle mulch
stoic fjord
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hrm.

gentle mulch
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i thought Meursault would have that if anything

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so

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fuck it

stoic fjord
# stoic fjord ...

this almost feels antithetical to everything we just went through with Canto 9

faint pivot
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Meursault wasn't abandoned and alone

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So that crosses out Solitude

gentle mulch
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not abandoned but may be alone

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his base EGO is him in a solitary cell titled "Chains of Others" so it could be a more abstract loneliness

stoic fjord
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also

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given that Ryoshu speaks to her E.G.O weapons

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I wonder what the chatter will be this time

gentle mulch
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ooh yeah

stoic fjord
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fuck I'm just

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what on earth does Hornet mean for Meursault

gentle mulch
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refresh me on Hornet?

stoic fjord
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I don't know like

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thematics of it, beyond like

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uhhh

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drones for the hive, singlemindedly serving the queen

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any harm done to her is unforgiveable, and they must spread her glory infinitely

gentle mulch
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oh. Old Lady is for Ryoshu because. [][][][][] is. Khm.

gentle mulch
keen palm
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I heard it described as:

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they're giving meur the ego gear of the abnormality themed around a prosperous kingdom fueled by the sacrifices of workers that are then forgotten entirely. and whose ego weapon is a gun said to require "only the will to hit the target" in lieu of skillful aiming. and whose flavor text includes the line "If [name] happens to feel abdominal pain and a tingling sensation in their neck, the only option they would have is to look at the great blue sky one last time." like ok

gentle mulch
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oh

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that ties in with The Stranger pretty well

stoic fjord
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...I kinda wonder why that line is

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there

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like

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"the only option they would have is to look at the great blue sky one last time."

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is

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weird

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incredibly weird

keen palm
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The only option they have is to soak in the beauty around them before their death

stoic fjord
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true, likely just a flowery way to say "death is inevitable"

gentle mulch
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soak in that beauty

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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of course Hong Lu gets it

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wait what

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HONG LU GETS LUCIO?? ISN'T THE ID REVEAL ON MONDAY??

stoic fjord
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it's fanart

gentle mulch
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oh thank fuck

crimson spindle
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lovely and guileful CEO

gentle mulch
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i was like there's no way my weekend went by that fast

wild mango
# stoic fjord

Oh thank god it’s fanart I want Hong Lu to be Albina

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Or Faust

keen palm
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I'd be surprised if Hong Lu isn't Calypso

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Not sure who else could really pull that off

stoic fjord
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Calypso?

wild mango
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hong lu COULD be valencia cos of the eye

stoic fjord
wild mango
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also ablina has heterocromia too

bronze zephyr
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I think ring duo will be fau and hong, just not sure which and which

wild mango
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i HOPE

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since that works out well for the bleed team

stoic fjord
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my guess is Faust is Albina

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given how the ring apprentice spoke in the tiny snippet we got from Renclair

keen palm
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Hong Lu COULD be Valencia cos of the eye but I really hope it's Rodya

bronze zephyr
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I highly doubt it, mainly cuz the idea of hong lu abusing heath is weird to me

tiny cave
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Abusive man = gross, disgusting
Abusive large, big chested Russian woman = hot, mommy step on me

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I’m betting on Callisto HL if anything for him

stoic fjord
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I'm torn between Meursault and Hong Lu for Callisto

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I can definitely see Hong Lu being a passionless ring artist who just recreates variations of the same base concept because this was pushed onto him by the elders or smth

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Meursault because

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like

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yeah

keen palm
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The weird thing is that 2 sinners aren't getting apprentices

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or nursefathers

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and one of them is probably Ryoshu

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so who's the other one

karmic escarp
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ryo's getting dihui star

keen palm
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I can't imagine so

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I would presume she'd get a team captain House Of Spiders faction glue ID

bronze zephyr
karmic escarp
stoic fjord
karmic escarp
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the silhouette is very clearly her in yoru's outfit

bronze zephyr
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Oh did we get a silhouette, did I miss it

eternal berry
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Having the other IDs will empower her skills but she’s not really meant to tie them into one team

bronze zephyr
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She is in the sense she wants to be paired w other HoS IDs

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
stoic fjord
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spoiler that please

eternal berry
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I’m wondering what the condition for that third bullet point will be

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It’d be funny if triggers on ally death of HoS IDs

gentle mulch
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so

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do we have a silhouette or not

eternal berry
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Yes

gentle mulch
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right

bronze zephyr
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and where is it,

gentle mulch
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is the silhouette in the room with us right now..?

eternal berry
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https://www.youtube.com/live/i7uXpviKVIQ?t=4651&si=944JmwD8ggoMjsr2

We got like a teeny glimpse of it here in the roadmap during the livestream

  • 한국어를 통해서 진행됩니다. - 韓国語で行われます。- Korean streaming이모티콘 채팅은 '치지직'을 통해서 가능합니다.Emoji chat is available through 'chzzk'. 絵文字チャットは「チジック」を通じて可能です。
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If you zoom in it’s pretty clear imo

karmic escarp
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yeah sorry i didnt go out and get it im in a LANCER game RN 😭

eternal berry
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It’s a bunch more conclusive with the mechanics preview we got a bit after in the vid

gentle mulch
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ah i see
thanks

bronze zephyr
gentle mulch
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I can't imagine Past and Future resource being anything but a Dihui Star ID

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unless it's something genuinely crazy like Araya with Ryoshushiki or some shit

karmic escarp
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that'd be crazy

gentle mulch
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yeah

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Araya as the incinerator and Ryoshu as the Star

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But uhh

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Important note she's probably going to be frail as fuck

stoic fjord
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like I expect some wild shit in this mirror world

gentle mulch
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Considering she forces HoS IDs to take damage in her stead

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Erasing Me? Nah, Erasing You

gentle mulch
bronze zephyr
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E.M, E.Y.

gentle mulch
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even Wildhunt Heath is still Heath, and not even the same uberdestructive scheming bastard

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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low bar

stoic fjord
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ok bro

karmic escarp
karmic escarp
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epic roulette gambling

split beacon
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Rien Sang ending entire encounters on his own with Furioso Replica is very satisfying

karmic escarp
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truly the ID of all time

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makes me kinda sad that leisault doesnt have his 6-coiner but i get it

tiny cave
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What will furioso the non fraud version do

split beacon
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On use: win battle

ebon forge
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full time job

stray sleet
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God damn

ebon forge
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(ok but srsly its cuz i do macros so its like, 4 hours a day)

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(end up playing like, 20 minutes a day myself)

atomic steeple
atomic steeple
atomic steeple
atomic steeple
atomic steeple
cosmic gorge
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Better now than ten hours ago yeah

ebon forge
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CEOCHANNNNNNNNNNNNNN

faint pivot
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Honestly thought QoH's story went something like this before I got into PMoon proper
https://youtu.be/UnlgVoWd7hI?si=GHVhkv-BKeK0Mpsq

「つまり、愛と勇気は無限大」

どうも藤原です。愛することって素敵だねって歌です。

カバーとか作りたいみんなのためにUSTとSVPを配布します
https://x.gd/jDToZ

ニコニコでもいいねとかしてくれると嬉しい
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm45697129

【12/9】㊗️10万...

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Also, related: ||HOW WILD||

atomic steeple
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I love the emotional damage shenpai takes from finn

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"Nobody can get into my room without permission. Except you, who did that. But nobody can do it."

faint pivot
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finn?

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Nvm

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Thought abt Adventure Time for some reason

cosmic gorge
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lmao same
i wanna see shenpai's reaction to mars and lulu

uneven canopy
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dw she got there

vagrant dove
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Was not expecting shen to play a PM game, but I am here for it

dusty sigil
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Chat, anyone have the video of Jia Huan and Gubo committing tax fraud and running from the cops (claws)?

cloud wadi
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Who’s shen

gentle mulch
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shenpai

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popular streamer

uneven canopy
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she's been considering LoR but has been put off for a while cause she doesn't like deckbuilders

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the storytelling got her over the hump

gentle mulch
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as it should

stoic fjord
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walp this wednesday, right?

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or

gentle mulch
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i think so

stoic fjord
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fuuuck I want more liu IDs

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give me liu double status team

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I need the funny MD E.G.O gift to pop off more

bronze zephyr
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Yep

atomic steeple
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Finally, I beat red mist in library of ruina. Binah is playable
So the plot goes that angela simulated past version of gebura to fight
After that, angela explains her understanding of ego and distortion, and that she may be at fault for the latter
Roland asks if she feels bad
She replies no. She must grasp what she wants for herself, damn the consequences. Plus "unworthy scum" to her is undeserving of ego, so it's proper they distort
Roland is dismayed at all this

hybrid lynx
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||i cant tell if sinclair is just pointy or if they're experiencing breast growth||

keen palm
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I think its just a style

ebon forge
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i like to imagine its e

atomic steeple
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Man mountain of smiling bodies sucks

gentle mulch
atomic steeple
gentle mulch
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yeah.

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thankfully not as terrible as red riding hood ime

atomic steeple
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My idea for next try is to have everyone jump the boss while responding to the adds' attacks

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Have the team survive to the end and kill the little piles

ebon forge
gentle mulch
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im so stupid

keen palm
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?

gentle mulch
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R for llolang

atomic steeple
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I genuinely enjoyed playing with udjats to beat the red mist
Reducing all her insane damage by carefully using the udjats' and binah's abilities

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Also their cards are cool
10/10 would get hired by an ominous woman

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Too bad I heard there are better builds than them

faint pivot
bronze zephyr
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Tomorrow morning kit reveal but this time it’s more exciting than usual cuz most kits are based on enemies yay

dusty sigil
bronze zephyr
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SDFHJ

atomic steeple
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Killed r corp first try!

bronze zephyr
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yayyy

atomic steeple
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Roland: oh shit an elite army is coming!
Angela: to the morgue

tiny cave
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Will Cane Office in the next walpurg (trust) save charge

atomic steeple
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Roland: Wowie angela, we just killed someone you knew. Does that feel bad? Did looking at people's lives over our adventure make you feel bad for them? Hmm?
Angela: No

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I almost lost, but at the end started spamming ego
Red eyes and today expression, then just today expression multiple times

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This abno is very useful

dusty sigil
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But also I feel like the cool parts of cane office are mostly Nemo’s face

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Which they can’t change because IDs need to keep the normal heads of sinners so it’s obvious who they are

faint pivot
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Nemo Gregor with a hologram head, trust

stoic fjord
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sadako headass

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
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also Bada's charge gauntlets are cool

dusty sigil
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That’s fair but otherwise I feel like Bada is, kinda boring

dusty sigil
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He is sorta just a guy in a suit

stoic fjord
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I think he's the straight man who makes Martina and Nemo stand out more

dusty sigil
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Yah

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I like cane office a lot

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I just don’t think they’d make good IDs besides Martina

stoic fjord
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mhm

dusty sigil
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You can’t have Nemo’s screen head which is the most important part and Bada is a straight man in a dynamic they wouldn’t have

atomic steeple
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Have the nemo id carry their regular human/humanoid head around

stoic fjord
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Nemo is also super expressive and the way he talks is a major part of him as well imo

dusty sigil
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That’s also true yah

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
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also his expressions are just. really fun

atomic steeple
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Fascinating thing is a lot of cyborgs in ruina are treated as gender neutral

dusty sigil
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Jesus

stoic fjord
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I can't think of any examples rn

atomic steeple
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It is in the extra book, I think.

dusty sigil
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They’re always referred to neutrally

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I don’t remember their name unfortunately

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Also the carnival members

lean fjord
dusty sigil
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Yah them

stoic fjord
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ohhhh ok

keen palm
faint pivot
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Speaking of Dante, only their head is augmented yea?

stoic fjord
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as far as we know yeah

uneven canopy
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haven't really gotten much in game depictions without their work clothes

keen palm
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Probably not considering their skin appears to be like

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Completely in-humanly black

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Actually going back to check to see if I was right about that

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but actually just getting distracted at how like

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the art in cutscenes was just so much better in early cantos

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goddamn

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This shit is just so expressive and good

uneven canopy
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either its pitch black skin or gloves

ebon forge
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man i really miss vell art

keen palm
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Dante just wears gloves

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but like

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Logically we should see a neck here

stoic fjord
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oh also

keen palm
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Any time Dante's skin should be visible it's just pitch black

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Man Vell Heath looks so much more boyish

ebon forge
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bodysuit

keen palm
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man Ryoshu's bangs are so much more intense

stoic fjord
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wait nvm Dante with the tropical shirt has a long-sleeved shirt under it

uneven canopy
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they are always buttoned the hell up

uneven canopy
# keen palm

makes ait a bit harder to see her eyebrow expressions

keen palm
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Yeah other than the Neck Void

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we never see Dante's skin

gentle mulch
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kit revealllllllll kit reveallllll

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pleasseeeee

stoic fjord
bronze zephyr
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LMAO

main scaffoldBOT
bronze zephyr
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oh im normal about that

lean fjord
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Being Hohenheim is suffering 😔

vagrant dove
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This art is Fucked Up /pos

cosmic gorge
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using FS Hongler in a certain three-sinner fight
and man it feels so lonely to use him without his designated sniper

karmic escarp
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blow without the job....

cosmic gorge
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truly

ebon forge
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Which non-base Faust ID is missing?

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Other than regret

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I swear I’m missing SOMEONE

cosmic gorge
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butler?

ebon forge
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Right butler

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Faust Company :D

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Only thing left to do is to max all of their UT and levels..

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And max their EGOs…

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Not like it’s big enough already

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I need Everlasting, Fluid Sac, 9:2

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And Regret

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Then I have Every Faust

ebon forge
#

patch

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Pulls:

  • chesed announcer
  • harmony sinclair (HE)
  • hornet meursault
  • faint aroma & solitude ryoshu (Katt!)
  • 3rd & 4th Walpipi Bokgak
  • Yesod, Molar, Hod, Dawn announcer
  • Sanguine Rodya, Wingbeat Ish, Lament Gregor, Dawnclair, REAPShu, Lament Sang

8th walpipi mini episode (clear canto 9)

  • dusk of amber (easy + hard)
  • easy has auto lv 60, UT 3
  • 5 ID loadout, w/ extra skill slot, extra S3 (probably), and buffs
  • must defeat x enemies in x turns, fixed announcer
  • Bongbong (orange)
  • ends 2026/03/19 (2 weeks)
  • new dusk of amber md pack
faint pivot
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Dusk...

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Binah's walp is gonna be an Aleph

atomic steeple
#

Wow, meur loves the game spore

ebon forge
#

So Ryoshu is basically "free attacks whenever stuff happens"

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and lots of sinking count

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and SL Sang Ammo

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oh shit meursaut is burn bleed???

atomic steeple
#

Yeah burn bleed getting support with meur abd sinclair

faint pivot
#

Harmony is SP heal

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Peam

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Rhythm's return makes it not apply to enemies which is a shame

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But ah well, still great concept

faint pivot
#

FINALLY

#

BURN GETS A DOUBLE STATUS

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HOLY SHIT IT'S BEEN SO LONG

atomic steeple
#

Aight, sinking ryoshu but walpipi locked

ebon forge
#

BREED

atomic steeple
#

What were the 4th and 5th walps?

#

Wait, 3rd and 4th

faint pivot
#

...tremking

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HOLY SHIT

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TREMKING

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WHEEEEEEEEE

ebon forge
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doesnt matter to me lol

neat cedar
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but

ebon forge
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im just sharding them all again

neat cedar
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it's mainly a buff/dmg ego

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imo

ebon forge
#

bp 800 motherfucker

faint pivot
#

In one Walp

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Perfection

ebon forge
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oh yeah true lol

faint pivot
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God I can't wait

neat cedar
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i love how

ebon forge
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im still not building tremor

faint pivot
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For whatever nonsense that's gonna be the triple status for this

neat cedar
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it both kills and drives sinclair crazy

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truly a freaky ego

faint pivot
#

It also heals

ebon forge
#

chainsaw man sinclair EGO

faint pivot
#

Oooh

neat cedar
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mhmm, if unget the kill

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The corrsion

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us gonna make N clair go crazy

ebon forge
#

wait do we have another burn bleed ID?

neat cedar
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like this feels tailored maid to workmwith nclair and you clair

ebon forge
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other than nclair

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uhm, pequod

neat cedar
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Youclair is burn

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not much bleed

faint pivot
#

Wait

ebon forge
#

isnt he burn rupture

faint pivot
#

Burn bleed is Meur no?

neat cedar
#

but they have mechanics that care aboyt being low h0

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they bith

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are burn bleed

faint pivot
#

Yeah Meursault is burn bleed

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Then either Kiramael or Capmael

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And finally NClair

ebon forge
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no he has no bleed

neat cedar
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i think Uou heath is also

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a but burn bleed?

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i can't recall

ebon forge
#

youclair is burn + rupture only

neat cedar
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ah gotcha

faint pivot
#

Of Hornet Meursault

ebon forge
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im talking about youclair

neat cedar
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sault having two ammo types

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is very funny

ebon forge
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im tryna see the triple status

faint pivot
#

What triple status

neat cedar
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i don't think it is triple

ebon forge
#

double sorry

neat cedar
#

yr

ebon forge
#

burn bleed

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but also, triple cuz we can do burn bleed poise i think

neat cedar
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burn bleed focus.comp is Kiraish, Nclair, hornet sault

faint pivot
#

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

neat cedar
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and that's about it so.far

faint pivot
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Who's the 2nd burn poise

ebon forge
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pequod ish, 2 bloise, 2 burn bleed, 2 burn poise

neat cedar
#

supplement with burn and for.bleed

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prob just

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the Kurokumo duo

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oh wait

#

ish

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can't

faint pivot
neat cedar
#

so.bloodfiends maybe

faint pivot
#

We don't have a 3rd burnoise

neat cedar
#

who would be the units to best fit a burn hybridization with bleed

ebon forge
#

fuck right

neat cedar
#

Burn u have ur pick

ebon forge
#

RIENSANG YOU BITCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

neat cedar
#

but the better bleed ids

faint pivot
#

Bleed count maintainers most certainly

neat cedar
#

are being tsken, lol

ebon forge
#

AND YOU, OUTIS

#

YOUUUUUUUUUUU

neat cedar
#

Sayo ish and cassete sault

faint pivot
#

I know Lucio doesn't inflict Burn

#

But does Valencina inflict it?

neat cedar
#

Kuro kumo.heath on his own prob works ut

ebon forge
neat cedar
#

less effficient

ebon forge
faint pivot
neat cedar
#

He's prob urn tremor

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which isn't the issue with the comp

ebon forge
#

valrodya NEEDS to be burnmor poise PLEASE

neat cedar
#

bleed count maintance might be a lil tricky

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or ego.reliant

ebon forge
#

i want to run burn bleed poise still

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MD reasons

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more triple status = better

#

brc team for md

faint pivot
#

I can't wait til I get enough shards to UT4 LCB Hong Lu

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Then my Charunking team will truly be at peak performance...

atomic steeple
#

limbus company plot

mystic ermine
faint pivot
#

I wonder which Midnight it's gonna be

mystic ermine
#

hm....

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what did we have so far...

#

green, violet

#

amber

faint pivot
#

Start with green, violet

mystic ermine
#

hm

#

Red!

#

Will it be Red?

faint pivot
#

We're getting amber just now so

#

Yep

#

...what is the Midnight of Red actually

Don't answer that, I'm saying I haven't encountered it yet

atomic steeple
#

Reply under spoilers

atomic steeple
#

So what is the r corp I stuff good for?

gentle mulch
#

Is this the first d
dedicated sinking Ryoshu ID?

wild mango
#

Oh god I was right

#

My strategic lunacy reserve is scared

#

Unless hornet mersault is REALLY good I don’t see him unseating princesault in the bleed team tho

gentle mulch
#

ref.

atomic steeple
#

Simp meursault

wild mango
#

And im not pressed for harmony sinclair either unless its really good

#

((Copium))

atomic steeple
#

I'm gonna shard sanguine desire, and see if I can get enough shards for sl yi sang
I'll roll for random goodies

gentle mulch
#

yeahhh i might just skip this walp if not roll for ryoshu

wild mango
#

At least I get to shard sanguine desire tho

gentle mulch
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i need mono pierce and attack weight for explux buuuut

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i think there will be better coming out

atomic steeple
#

I have 6986 lunacy and 12 tickets

atomic steeple
#

Just getting random stuff is fine, since I have lots of teams now

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Anything contributes

#

Did myongest combo in ruina

faint pivot
dusty sigil
#

THEY GAVE HORNET MEURSAULT BURN DELUGE?!

vagrant dove
#

(Real)

dusty sigil
#

I’m definitely pulling for these two

#

They seem really cool

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
#

Me looking at the ryoshu capstone id

stoic fjord
#

Fuck maybe I need to make a thumb-less burn team then

dusty sigil
dusty sigil
#

We may get stopped and it’s capped the Liu IDs

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But fuck it’s not

#

That’s another huge burn damage amper like magic bullet

cosmic gorge
#

poor uadjat

#

||jobbing not because youre washed but because your boss needed you to die||

dusty sigil
#

ALSO

#

SINGING MACHINE SINCLAIR HEALS SP IF SP WAS LOST THIS TURN

#

DAWNCLAIR UPSCALE

cosmic gorge
#

fucking hell, lei heng
||the least assholish mentor figure only by comparison||

#

whats not clear to me is ||araya's education. Was Ryoshu tutoring her? Where was she learning things? books carried from the outside?||

atomic steeple
#

It's interesting how much you get for r corp in ruina
Most receptions give 1 team
R corp gives you 3, one of which nullifies the default drawback of ranged cards

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You'd expect reindeers to be artillery (they shoot psychic beams) but they only have one ranged card

cloud wadi
#

they are more of a fire and forget missile

faint pivot
#

Dawnclair upscale, let's fucking go

#

A shame he can't go in Bureed but, ah well

dusty sigil
#

Man, if there is no 30 Damage cap on hornet Meursault like there is for the Liu

#

Then like, he’s an instant include in burn

#

It’d be like having another dark flame up

atomic steeple
cloud wadi
#

also its a multi attack multi coin sp healer that gives damage buffs to allies

#

which means its a MUST INCLUDE in most teams

#

also it gives himself constant damage and offense level buff

#

why would you ever not use this ego

wintry fiber
#

Crazy glowup

cloud wadi
#

Harmony was this strong in ruina too tbh

#

It’s one of the more powerful egos

#

Only reason why it didn’t get used more was because solemn lament exited

#

It’s still used in speedruns because lol strength stacking

gentle mulch
#

I'll shard it next walp

#

rolling for EGOs is miserable

#

and also because i really want the binah announcer

dusty sigil
#

Crimson Scar Ishmael and Cobalt Scar Heathcliff from @ Gobdeung_2

worthy haven
#

I will chill roll for anything

#

Tis way I save

#

50k lunacy on standby 😌

cloud wadi
dusty sigil
gentle mulch
#

I'd rather roll 200 for an announcer later when i could also nab Potentially 3-5 IDs along the way

#

otherwise I'd just be rolling for 400 trying to get an EGO and then an announcer

#

still shuddering over the arknights event

cloud wadi
#

Since ego alteration is now a thing

#

It’s possible that crimson scar Ishmael might use a hunting spear or a harpoon

gentle mulch
#

AHABMAEL

#

TWO!

atomic steeple
#

I need to do thumb ii

faint pivot
#

Love & Hate did iirc?

#

...hum, nevermind

#

Love & Hate does not have it

dusty sigil
#

Chat, do you think unfocused volley makes a skills stronger?

ebon forge
#

yeah

#

against many enemies it tends to be a little weaker

#

but against low HP its an execute tool

keen palm
#

Currently i see it as a thing that mabe potentially has a downside but is almost always good

lean fjord
dusty sigil
#

I see

gentle mulch
#

It's good for softening up a random amt of enemies to be staggered before an unbreakable coin clash or something

lean fjord
#

Worse than true AoE, and then kinda varies

dusty sigil
#

Also man, what’s up with all the tremor sinking Walp units?

#

Is that gonna be the new big tremor type?

lean fjord
#

Who knows

#

Not particularly thrilled about any of the Walp units this time, but I'll probably still pull anyway

#

I got enough saved up

stoic fjord
#

I'm pulling because they wield guns

lean fjord
gentle mulch
#

think im in the 300s

lean fjord
#

I'm at 50k lunacy

gentle mulch
#

44+ for me

cloud wadi
#

I want the fanfire ryoshu

signal kindle
#

Happy birthdon everyone

gentle mulch
#

DONNN

ebon forge
#

there is SO MUCH menhera ceo art

lean fjord
stoic fjord
eternal gull
uneven canopy
tired canyon
#

if you could manifest a project moon game into existence right now

what genre would it be

gentle mulch
#

project zomboid genre

#

in that it's an open simulation except this time there's city shit to worry about like sweepers, tax, random claw event

#

npcs

#

the works

#

or a restaurant/arpg like moonlighter

stoic fjord
#

with capabilities for online multiplayer servers

gentle mulch
#

i changed my mind

#

lobcorp except youre an employee

#

i used to play a roblox game that was literally just that

stoic fjord
#

Tuantu's is 3D but less faithful of a recreation whereas Robotomy is still 2D but is directly lob corp

gentle mulch
#

i think robotomy

stoic fjord
uneven canopy
#

the rats got purple juice?

stoic fjord
#

Mang-chi unaccounted for

uneven canopy
#

where's my boy mang-chi

stoic fjord
#

god Walp cannot come soon enough

#

I'm genuinely going full tweaker

stoic fjord
uneven canopy
#

i sure hope so

stoic fjord
#

I feel like Mang-chi not being there could genuinely be explained by like

#

if we saw all 3, we'd know, it'd be too much of a coincidence

#

2 is skirting the edge just enough

signal kindle
#

Build your own association Mayhaps

#

Though I do like set and contiguous stories

faint pivot
#

Say

#

How do the Abnos we encounter during Ryo's canto mesh with her narrative?

#

I was thinking it was wild that Spider Marriage and etc.. didn't pop up during this canto and wondering how All Those tie in better

gentle mulch
#

spider marriage is likely gonna be a railway thing

#

as for ebony stem ardor shock centi etc im not sure

gentle mulch
cosmic gorge
#

Oh damn it

faint pivot
#

?

cosmic gorge
#

Moth drawn to a flame

faint pivot
#

What about Ebony Stem

#

Ah

cosmic gorge
#

Idk about the stem

#

Maybe its a greg thing who knows

split beacon
#

Ebony Stem is distrust and betrayal of others in the name of one’s own safety

karmic escarp
#

isnt it kind of implied that the apple from rose hunter's dungeon event has some kind of relation to ebony stem too?

#

or at least, theyre thematically connected by being based on snow white

cosmic gorge
#

The evil queen to the hunter of snow white yea

faint pivot
#

Do y'all think the "cameo" abnormalities still resonate with Ryoshu?

#

Like Ambling Pearl and Red Gossypium?

karmic escarp
#

the pearl sealed shut within its shell....

#

snow white's apple certainly has parallels to ||araya in some ways||

#

||abandoned (though in araya's case ryoshu did ultimately want to return to save her), 'rotting' away in the temporal safe. if we make a slightly wild assumption that EQ's Apple is in some way connected to the poison apple snow white ate (perhaps the source of it?) and that SW's Apple is EQ's 'child' in a sense, then SW is ultimately molded into its 'mother's' shape ||

#

as a slightly related aside, i really think that the apple in rose hunter's MD event is EQ and not SW
the hunter is obviously meant to be akin to the hunter who spares and then chases off snow white in the original fairy tale
but here it's inverted, and it's seeking the apple in order to return it to its 'rightful role' as 'a princess'.
("What I am looking for is an apple that will become a princess, not knowing its rightful place.")
princesses grow up to become queens,
"Stories must follow their natural courses. This is the flow we shall follow, so accept it."
i dont really have much of a closing statement

cosmic gorge
#

Fascinating

#

Go use this as ship fuel any Ryodon people out there

split beacon
faint pivot
#

...say, is Hohenheim ever seen with EGO gifts?

#

I just noticed that he uses none alongside AEDD

faint pivot
#

Aside from the thematics of silk & thread

bronze zephyr
#

gossypium ego 🙏 🙏🙏

split beacon
#

He's got both Dimensional Refraction Variant and Faelantern's on in his bird suit

mystic ermine
#

He has the Faelantern's?

#

oh

vagrant dove
#

And Limbus Company's own CEO set the events of Canto 9 up and sabotages the operation at points

vagrant dove
# vagrant dove Loose connection, but apart from the binding thread thing, Gossypium's ego gifts...

On a that more probable note, much like Ryoshu's ties to the house of spiders, the drenched gossypium represents a kind of parasitical relationship detrimental to the host (extracting blood to empower itself can be seen as something akin to the HOS turning Ryoshu into a weapon that burns her own memories+ Valencina attempting to use Ryoshu's abilities as a ticket to regain her place in the Thumb)

atomic steeple
#

🔁 lohboh

merelinque

The truth of the matter is that meursaults season 10 ego being Silent Girl would make thematic sense and go raw as fuck but the world genuinely isn't ready for meursault in a sundress

merelinque

Having thought about it. The chance it's his seasonal ego is near-none (generally original and more tailor-made abnos, plus we're expected to fight said seasonal abno in RR and that's (glances at keter realisation) not happening). But. In any other context like a walp it would be damn perfect. Just saying kjh dm me

merelinque

I'm just imagining people in like 2028 or something being like Aw fuck now I have to choose whether I want Mimicry or Remorse in meursaults Aleph slot

lohboh

your mind is so beautiful but also: sometimes the seasonal ego is a story abno (drifting fox & dream devouring siltcurrent). we're likely visiting N Corp who is known to be in possession of abnormalities including Nothing There (the corroded inquisitors from Canto 3 share its classification code), and if this parallel is unintentional I'll eat my h...

merelinque

ABSOLUTELY. I'm iffy on it being a seasonal specifically but I just know it's making it into the game one way or another in my beautiful world it's guaranteed

-# #we are like the I can imagine anything guy #also siltcurrent is fought in RR as well and I think drifting fox too? So y'know #I just can't imagine season 8 silent girl RR fight because in ruina that was the end of the end

ebon forge
vagrant dove
ebon forge
#

yeah

atomic steeple
#

HOnestly, expecting valencina greg

ebon forge
#

personally kinda not agreeing

#

part of it is how gregor already has an ID (doesnt change too much, but still)

#

i feel like it just doesnt... feel right?

atomic steeple
faint pivot
#

Y'know

#

If Drifter Ryoshu has an interaction with Hong Lord, who is from a different mirror world

#

Could Gregenheim potentially have one with whomever plays Calypso?

atomic steeple
#

Man abnormalities are so cool

cosmic gorge
faint pivot
atomic steeple
#

Do ties count as hits in ruina?

stoic fjord
faint pivot
atomic steeple
#

Strange

#

I was using min 4 attacks but one of my librarians lost and road home reached the house

unique bane
stoic fjord
# unique bane

Okay not to overanalyze and nitpick a meme but I feel like this doesn't fit because the dad has a valid point here in that like.

Yeah, no shit, if you don't eat iron-rich foods and aren't eating enough, you're going to have anemia

Even if overly harsh

#

Whereas Valencina just says shit cuz she's mad and a loser

cosmic gorge
#

She doesnt look like shes a fish sort of person if that makes sense

stoic fjord
#

I feel like Valencina is very much a red meat, whiskey, and cigars kind of gal

#

Ron Swanson diet

cosmic gorge
#

Really on that bastard father grindset, including an awful diet

stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
faint pivot
#

Val is fucking herself over alongside Matthias
The Prescripts feed you too well
Calypso and Dihui is ????

cosmic gorge
#

Callisto*

#

Callisto doesnt eat

faint pivot
#

Oh I got it right the first time

#

Shouldn't have doubted myself earlier lmao

cosmic gorge
#

I assume callisto doesnt eat and lets the other nfs feed ryo

#

Probably tried to suggest she get rid of her needless stomach

faint pivot
#

Speaking of

#

I have two theories

#

One, that Ryo didn't cut Matthias directly like she did with Callisto during her escape

#

And two, that she avoided courting retribution from either of them because they're the only ones with enough reach to immediately Get Her if she doesn't kill them then & there

cosmic gorge
#

Physical reach or

faint pivot
#

It's unclear what the HoS arrangement is to both us & Ryo other than all 5 benefit, but in her eyes, The Middle would be an ever-rising wall between her & her daughter so pissing The Whole Finger off wasn't an option when she left

#

Meanwhile the Ring have access to corridors, and since she's left the HoS she definitely knows how they can just pop up from nowhere and leave her with no rest

#

Oh, and incase anyone wants to engage, Thyme's not done with canto 9 yet

atomic steeple
#

Welp, gonna try road home and scaredy cat tonight. It's an interesting fight, I like the cute lil path. Currently using that rapid gashes general, maxim, a rhino, and lowell
Might slot in an udjat if I fail a few times. Oh, might be good to do thumb II for ferrous guard

cosmic gorge
#

Ill finish it tomorrow, properly

#

||QTE jumpscare||

eternal berry
faint pivot
cosmic gorge
#

Big Rick had no idea so ryo and co were fair game to him i think

faint pivot
#

Ryoshu wasn't aware of that smidgen of a detail when she left

#

I'm thinking of this from the perspective of someone who could permanently impair someone in a City where everything can be replaced trying to both flee and set up for a round 2

#

Val and Rien's cuts showed that these two were definitely on the menu for a slicing

#

Yet she only chose to break Callisto's Sarusword and Matthias'...something

eternal berry
#

I don't think Ryo cared about the potential consequences of her escape in that sense. And even if she didn't know the exact reasons the Nursefathers were shaping her into a sword, I do think she would understand that they're all has-beens who've been discarded by their host Fingers

faint pivot
#

She understands that they're has-beens yea but they're still affiliated with their Finger

#

Matthias' book still syncs after all

eternal berry
#

I dunno, just from the fact that they never, you know, actually get any external support from the other Fingers except to complete the "project" it would've been obvious. It's not like she had to cut through dozens of underlings to escape from the House

faint pivot
#

See what purpose would they need external support for

#

They didn't need manpower at all for the project

faint pivot
#

Its one failure point (Ryo leaving and disappearing out of reach) was one they fixed with incentive to not disappear

faint pivot
eternal berry
#

Yeah, uh, Matthias is missing an arm courtesy of Ryoshu

#

He complains about not having a free hand for writing stuff down in the book which is kind of funny

#

Maybe that's why he uses kicks a lot

faint pivot
#

Oh that

#

Was chain

#

Goddamn I did NOT notice until now

eternal berry
#

His fighting style, outfit, and posture kind of hide it, but in some animations and sequences it's clear he's got no right arm

faint pivot
#

I guess this was the downside of experiencing the whole canto on my phone lmao

cloud wadi
#

Yeah he briefly mentions he’s missing an arm a few times

#

Since Matthias is a persona non grata I assume the Middle wouldn’t care about avenging him. Nobody wrote it down in the book anyways

atomic steeple
#

Mfe is legit fun. Too bad I exploded it with sinking and sinking deluge

vagrant dove
#

Is the vibe I get

ebon forge
#

because they keep telling him to get meal deals and shit at hhpp

gentle mulch
#

Rien is the motherfucker that goes "oh thank fuck there's instructions on the packaging"

ebon forge
gentle mulch
#

Hermes: Put soap on body body soap clean rinse soap hand wash shower rinse bar hand

split beacon
#

Shiomi Yoru seems like the type to wistfully eat various regional cuisines while wishing she could travel instead of just making this at home

keen palm
atomic steeple
#

Since we always explode MFE with status, the battle event is never seen

It feels as though you find peace in merely looking at it.
The statue seems to be embracing the agony and anguish of all.
There is no self within—only everyone.
It can only make sense that one would lose the will to fight.
However, no man can wholly shoulder another’s suffering in their stead.
Before we all are allured by its false compassion, someone has to break the statue.
Check: Who will be able to break this deceitful statue?

#

Fascinating look into it

#

Basically calling the idea of fully shouldering another's burden false compassion

#

And a contrast to dante, as commented in the observation

stoic fjord
#

walp needs to come faster

bronze zephyr
#

30 hours...

atomic steeple
atomic steeple
#

-# ↩ 👤

wait i'm curious, what makes you say that gregor doesn't like everyone else (if i read that post right)? just curious since i've never seen anyone else say that

-# ↪

i don't necessarily think gregor _dislikes_​ everyone else at lcb but i do think that gregor is an incredibly petty person that isn't nearly as close to the rest of the sinners and even outright dislikes some of them cough cough rodya cough cough which a lot of people just Refuse to see because he's as much of a doormat as he is. there's several examples i could get into to try and prove my point however i'll just focus on what i personally think to be the biggest ones.

additionally, this is going to be kind of long, so i'm adding a read more. read more! read it. sorry for being so wordy. i have several diseases.

Pt1. gregor is the type to try and get along at least decently with everyone, especially if he gets a good first impression from them.

this is less a point in favor of gregor's distance w/ the rest of the sinners and more jus...

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The "gregor is seething at everyone" theory

cosmic gorge
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Jan 2025

Theres a good amount of new info that doesnt match with the theory

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Greg is very capable of spite and resentment as shown in his mirror worlds, but ||his last words for Valencia who was actively torturing him physically and psychologically was to get away, just before his kaiser form brutally kills her||

keen palm
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I also think it doesnt entail the mood of the fight itself

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||Because I dont think Gregor would have held back against Heath and Rodya if he hated them||

dusty sigil
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Ehhh, yah I think this post is to quick to label any moments of Gregor acting friendly with the other sinners as just him maintaining the doormat defense

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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He can have some resentments, he obviously does, but also he wouldn’t do and say a lot of the things he does and says if he’s just secretly seething the entire time and doesn’t actually have any camaraderie with the other sinners

stoic fjord
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like, I think that entire fight just kind of discredits the theory, at least in the present day

keen palm
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I mean i think its a fair read of a lot of Gregor but they go a bit too far with the characterization

dusty sigil
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Yah

cosmic gorge
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He can be a resentful mfer without being all face no positive connections

dusty sigil
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He obviously has his little moments of showing resentment and he has a concerning large number of revenge focused IDs

stoic fjord
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also maybe I'm just kinda dumb but I genuinely cannot think of any particular moment that I can read as him disliking Rodion the way they say it

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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But also it’s a bit to quick to assume everything he says that’s not resentful is just him doing his normal defense

keen palm
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I do think being objective i cant recall him showing affection for Rodya ever

keen palm
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The way Rodya does him

stoic fjord
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it's fairly one-sided in that way

dusty sigil
cosmic gorge
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The worst i think is him having less affection for rodya than she has for him

cloud wadi
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Gregor is kinda a self imposed outcast

split beacon
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I think there very much is something to pointing out that Gregor has a lot of pent up resentment and kinda plays an aloof, emotionally detached role where he lets people think they’re closer to him than he really is

cloud wadi
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I don’t really think he shows much affection to anyone

stoic fjord
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yeah

cloud wadi
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Doesn’t mean he has no affection

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Just doesn’t tend to show it

keen palm
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He does Yuri

split beacon
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But it’s not hatred towards the bus team he’s just really really afraid of getting close to people and expresses it as this aloof detachment

keen palm
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Noticeably he never gets Yuri's name wrong either

split beacon
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Tbh, Gregor getting close to Yuri and then losing her in Canto I is like the priming for his arc

stoic fjord
split beacon
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Yeah

stoic fjord
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like he has not shown remotely as much outward care for someone since

split beacon
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You see him get more withdrawn and afraid of connection to the people around him

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And it rots his fucking brain too

cosmic gorge
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Rodya and gregor have that "hiding how you really feel" vibe with them
Hes not honest about his opinions and feelings in a less overt way than happy go lucky party girl face rodya

atomic steeple
vagrant dove
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but I always read it as partly a fear of getting close to people because of the War

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as well as a fear of himself because of the arm being sensitive to strong emotion

dusty sigil
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Also like, genuinely it is crazy how people are theorizing like half of the sinners are secret traitors

atomic steeple
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Gregor has a big thing with repressed emotions

dusty sigil
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I’m seeing in that theory Gregor, Rodya and Sinclair will all betray us

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Like come on there can’t be that many

atomic steeple
cloud wadi
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Traitors is almost guaranteed to happen but little do they know the real traitor is the 13th

cosmic gorge
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Outis as red herring

Honestly i think its gonna be Faust

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Like

Her darkest hour

cloud wadi
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Traitor is a confessor of some kind

worthy haven
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damm maybe we are gretchen /s

dusty sigil
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Famously there was only the one traitor of Jesus

vagrant dove
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I think any betrayal is coming from the company rather than the LCB honestly

cloud wadi
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So I think probably tracks to rodion the best

atomic steeple
cloud wadi
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Because Sonya was inducing Rodion to confess in that one scene

stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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Dante is many things

cloud wadi
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And it will be for a good cause

cosmic gorge
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Messianic and Luciferian

stoic fjord
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my guess is that Outis like

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0% chance she genuinely betrays us, from what we have seen

like idk I just feel like it's to the point where it's almost more of a bit and too obvious of a red herring

ebon forge
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Outis is no. 012 like Judas

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but that's probably to troll bible readers

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a false traitor tho

stoic fjord
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I don't know that I would expect Gregor to betray us, but I do think some fucky shit might happen with regards to the stuff we saw in canto 9

atomic steeple
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Outis is too loyalty pilled and dante fan maxxer

stoic fjord
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Rodion is like... we know very little about her

stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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In terms of book synergy rodya isnt even that deep into rodion CaP's arc no

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This is right after the murder of the tax man

atomic steeple
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Hm arc where rodion and gregor are fighting and heathcliff plays mediator

cosmic gorge
cloud wadi
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I don’t think she will betray us

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But it’ll turn out that she did some real fucked up shit

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Sin in levels unheard of

stoic fjord
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Hrm

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Is the uh

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The "the later their canto, the worse their sin" thing canon

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Or is that fan theory

cloud wadi
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Fan theory

atomic steeple
split beacon
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it's a fantheory that's been holding up kinda OK so far

atomic steeple
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She proudly presents it, and sleeps holding it

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The tragicomic thing is she might legit think she's dante's best friend, without realizing how overbearing she is

vagrant dove
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yeah

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I think she's very very very used to military structures

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after the War (type shit)

dusty sigil
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Also chat, I just realized why Don wasn’t permitted to take off her shoes

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Because Callisto still needed to be alive for the flow

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Otherwise Sinclair wouldn’t have been pushed to manifesting his mark

cosmic gorge
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Mmhmm

stoic fjord
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I think that like

cosmic gorge
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My working theory is that the reason why we got doubled down prosthetic hater shirou sinclair is exactly bc we were fighting callisto

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The certain future called forth was one where his hate empowers him

atomic steeple
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Sith master sinclair

keen palm
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Outis wont betray us but I will say

vagrant dove
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i think my favourite Outis Moment is that one intervallo comment she makes about having a second in command if something happens to the executive manager

cosmic gorge
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Pretty bleak future really, the little swiss boy retains his worst self even with his hype moment and aura

keen palm
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She is famously

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The guy who sacrificed his entire crew for his goals and hubris

vagrant dove
stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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My other working theory is that Dante is outis' calypso

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Some sort of safe yet entrapping haven for her actual goals

unique bane
dusty sigil
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Famously, not the most trustworthy guy

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Odysseus being a trickster is his main thing

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That and wanting to go home to his family