#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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signal kindle
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Where does limbus get its money from

cosmic gorge
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tis a spoiler

stoic fjord
signal kindle
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Okay throw up some spoiler text then

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I alr watched like the latter half of canto nine with a friend

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(I don’t really care about spoilers I want to know the story)

cosmic gorge
signal kindle
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Thank you

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||this has only brought me more questions 😭||

cloud wadi
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Each of which she considers on the same level of importance as you might a fancy wine glass or a pair of dress shoes you almost never wear

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She can ||host a lavish feast every day in every one of those manors and it wouldn’t hurt her bottom line||

stoic fjord
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she genuinely probably makes H Corp look poor in comparison

cloud wadi
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She’s rich enough that she equips her elite agents with gear and weapons that most wings would find cost prohibitive

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Though at the same time I think wings tend to have more uh

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Singularity enhanced troops

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One thing I find surprising is that she doesn’t appear to have given her Udjats ego gear

dusty sigil
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Could be an issue of their volatility

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The EGO gear the LCE can produce is strong but also hands a tendency to explode

cloud wadi
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I guess also ego gear cannot be sabotaged

dusty sigil
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True

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But yah the Udjat are also kinda defined by their lack of individuality

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They’re all hyper loyal to Dias and constantly dehumanized

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EGO gear is sorta inherently individualized because different people can synchronize well with different suits

stoic fjord
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OH MY GOD

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RIEN YI SANG TRAILER

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IT STARTS PLAYING SAIKAI NEAR THE MIDDLE

cloud wadi
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Well yeah Saikai is basically his theme haha

stoic fjord
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yeah...

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Canto 9 having so many characters simultaneously fill so many roles from the source work is really interesting to me

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generational trauma fr just completely entangled every single one of these mfs

gentle mulch
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whens the kit reveal?

stoic fjord
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oh my god

tiny cave
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lolang doesn't use a katana because he's not cool and edgy enough

gentle mulch
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put that shit in deadlock

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SUMMON THE PRESCRIPT GENERATOR
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bronze zephyr
gentle mulch
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hhh

elder wigeon
mystic ermine
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What?

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What even

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Green??

bronze zephyr
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???

uneven canopy
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for an amazing reason of course

bronze zephyr
vagrant dove
ebon forge
neat cedar
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oh.neat

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they're acruallymgonna change the font

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for.ryoshu's sword

mystic ermine
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I saw Lei Heng get two turned.

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What the fuck

neat cedar
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. . .

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oh fuck

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NEW MD already

split beacon
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wait is it stream rn

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are things being announced

mystic ermine
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HUH?!

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WHAT

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GET ME ON IT

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SEND A LINK PLEASE

neat cedar
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ye

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Steam.stuff

mystic ermine
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...I don't s-

mystic ermine
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oh! steam?

split beacon
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Ah, Mirror of Names and Spiders

neat cedar
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yeah, new md on the 26

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that is the fastest turn around we've had

mystic ermine
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mirror of... names?

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huh, did not expect it

split beacon
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aughhh the fucking MD Normal era is upon us again

mystic ermine
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it... kind of... looks cool as hell

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I like these

neat cedar
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hidden bosses

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oh

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might actyally havr to try extreme whennit releassa

mystic ermine
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Oh, finally, it's useful

split beacon
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MD Extreme is a march through hell

mystic ermine
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interesting, interesting
So, I take it that that's... a vengeance book, ||Kira||'s Thermal Blades, the Hammer ||Heathcliff is holding during the Pass On sequence|| aaand.........

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and no fucking clue

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what the fuck is that on the left

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Interesting, they're kind of making burn gifts harder
Sooo
are we getting to the burn part of the sinking burn / bleed season?

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aand also buffing some bleed gifts...

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and sinking!

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hmm? unique effects?

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Oh my fuck FINALLY

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EYEES

neat cedar
mystic ermine
mystic ermine
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literally "dodging by whimsy"

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I was looking forward to downright silly numbers

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FATE?!

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hey this... kind of... confirms that we'll get interactions between the Nursefathers and the Apprentices

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Okay buddy

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calm down

neat cedar
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Honestly

mystic ermine
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AAWWWWWW

neat cedar
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despite the wordiness

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not a complex ID

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can be simplified to

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"Just send it.bro"

mystic ermine
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Oho, Scythe... Scythe...

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It's always a scythe...

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but he's not blue

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so what the fuck

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And this isn't a "ohh actually the ending of hte last game happened differently in that world", nono, shin is a thing and hence the Light, but
I
hmpf.
why... why Scythe if Roland?

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I love it

mystic ermine
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profit

neat cedar
mystic ermine
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But

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But mask and suit and
daughter

neat cedar
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it's in the passive lore of thw weapon statuses in phase 2

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it didn't work

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but it did try to make him like blue man

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to the point that the scythe is his favored, most familiar weapon

mystic ermine
neat cedar
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it did, but for a long while he only was given the scythe

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sonit did try to make him a blue boy copy

mystic ermine
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Hm
I do not quite subsrcibe to that

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but

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I do have a quesiton

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chrm

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It is specifically said htat he ||was cosplaying as Roland for a while|| before he saw ||The Blue Reverberation||, right?

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So
whne the fuck was that

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if it was before ||Roland|| went into the library, then ||Riens|| death sequence doesn't really line up

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if it's after the ||library||, then... fucken

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how is ||Argalia|| still around? didn't we ||book / kill|| the entire ||ensemble|| at the ending?

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So
Like

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What the fuck?

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IT DOESN'T LINE UP

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When did what happen?!

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Ryoshu was ||born well before the Library||, right?
considering that she is... what was it... ||27?||
So then

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Why did... there is a possibility that ||Rien|| started LARPing even before the entire ||"boohoo my wife is dead"|| events happened
right

ebon forge
vagrant dove
mystic ermine
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That would be a bit fucky

ebon forge
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so gonna break riensang down

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basically, his skills are just standard issue index

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except he has a 9 coin skill.

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and an evade instead of counter

mystic ermine
ebon forge
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and most of his kit is

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"follow prescripts for buffs, dont and suffer"

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but when he takes his mask off (stagger, or use furioso), he gains burn + bleed (self), and buffs furioso

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most of his buffs are just "more offense level, sinking, poise", and his debuffs are "fragility, defense level down"

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he also buffs InDon (i recommend running InDon + Riensang, InFaust w/ Thora, and maid ryo w/ thora should be good)

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also, if he does enough prescripts / uses the marked skills enough, he gains free S3s

ebon forge
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and the more he uses unbreakables (from unlock) or furioso, the more free S3s he gets

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so in the end, it's all just "DO MORE PRESCRIPTS RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

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and the rest is borderline winrate

mystic ermine
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Hm... I'd love to pit him into a sort of

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test mode

ebon forge
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shame his burn is s3-2...

mystic ermine
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where there's an infinite amount of enemies

atomic steeple
ebon forge
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i wish he was a true triple status tbh

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then we could actually run burn sinking poise

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we have 2 index IDs (fau + don), 2 porn ids (don + capt ish), and then... hohenheim gregor

atomic steeple
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Double don team

ebon forge
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oh fuck come on

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ok uhm, sinking poise...

mystic ermine
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I want

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to go throug hthe entire canto

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with the bad end ID, the nursefathers and the respective Id's

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I mean

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Rodion and Heathcliff ||are going against the thumb, it's a mirror match||!

vagrant dove
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Poor don

bronze zephyr
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Riensang text wall holy shit

vagrant dove
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Can't wait for 5 page ids in 2027

signal kindle
signal kindle
wild mango
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Yep, I’m gonna bet the Callisto and Albina ids are gonna be a new bleed duo

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And replace the two flex slots in the current bleed team

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I WISH they’re Hong Lu and Faust but that would be best case scenario

signal kindle
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WRONG
sinking id

vagrant dove
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All roads lead to sinking

hybrid lynx
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sink into the deep

bronze zephyr
signal kindle
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Sink deep and descend (into the inferno)

dusty sigil
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9 FUCKING COINS?!

cloud wadi
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Riensang gives Don head pats

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9 coin furioso

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The legends are true

gentle mulch
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nine fucking coins

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okay you're in

bronze zephyr
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Pagecreep

cloud wadi
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nine fucking coin furioso

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imagine if Roland's furioso doesn't have the coin power restriction

dusty sigil
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atomic steeple
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Denji chainsawman would have a lust s2 and s3

keen palm
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Denji seems hed be Envy Gluttony Lust

atomic steeple
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Sloth would fit too

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He tries to stop following orders so easily, but still does so

dusty sigil
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Yah

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Maybe sloth EGO

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Or defensive skill

cosmic gorge
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Sloth Counter

faint pivot
stoic fjord
keen palm
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I.L.Y.T.

My cover of SAIKAI is finally here! This canto was such an emotional one for me, I was genuinely bawling my eyes out during the entire song reveal in game 😭 It's such a perfect song for an incredible chapter, and I hope the love poured into this cover can convey that! Please check out the original song by Mili and the game Limbus Co...

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dusty sigil
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Chat, what’s the name of the relic crown don Quixote wears?

cloud wadi
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Membrino’s Crown

dusty sigil
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Thanks

cloud wadi
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Mambrino was a fictional Moorish king, celebrated in the romances of chivalry. His first appearance is in the late fourteenth-century Cantari di Rinaldo, also known as Rinaldo da Monte Albano, Rinaldo Innamorato or Innamoramento di Rinaldo. The Cantari di Rinaldo is an adaptation of the Old French chanson de geste, Renaud de Montauban, also know...

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In later poems, Mambrino’s helmet was made of pure gold and rendered its wearer invulnerable.

dusty sigil
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Ah alright then

cloud wadi
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Cervantes, in his novel Don Quixote de la Mancha, tells us of a barber who was caught in the rain, and to protect his hat clapped his brazen basin on his head. Don Quixote insisted that this basin was the enchanted helmet of the Moorish king. Don Quixote wishes to obtain the helmet in order to make himself invulnerable. In the musical Man of La Mancha, an entire song is constructed around the titular character's search for the helmet and his encounter with the barber.

dusty sigil
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Chatroom, tell me if I’m reaching, but the more I think about the more I think that in limbus company ideas like family and circumstance are basically fate

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The flow is a constant idea that’s brought up but despite that the cantos themselves don’t tend to bother with it

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They’re all about the sinners past and how they reacted to it

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The things they didn’t choose and the things they did

lean fjord
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Man, Riensang is a lot of words for "just do prescripts lmao"

dusty sigil
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I mean, it’s a combination of Yi Sang and Rien

lean fjord
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Also predictably doesn't look great for Sinking

dusty sigil
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It’d be shocking if he didn’t use as many words as possible

dusty sigil
keen palm
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I think he's good for sinking once you have built up sinking because proccing Sinking 9 times with one attack is insane

gentle mulch
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he's another ID to transition into "just do damage lol" design philosophy

keen palm
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Sending this MF into the mirror dungeons

uneven canopy
dusty sigil
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Chat, y’all think Gungir is one of the 3 relics related to the eye of Odin?

bronze zephyr
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ohh

dusty sigil
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Also chat, I think Araya might’ve been concept erased irl

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I’m trying to search her name on Twitter and it’s refusing to load any tweets

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When I specify limbus company it’s only showing tweets saying limbus company, none saying Araya

atomic steeple
dusty sigil
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Unless you also have SL Gregor you’d have no access to Sinking’s damage increasers unfortunately

atomic steeple
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Hm

mystic ermine
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With... with all due respect to the Heishou

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does anyone have Ringsang?

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wait, found one

cloud wadi
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i'm just waiting for inevitable 100 riensang on my company

bronze zephyr
main scaffoldBOT
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….yeah this just about sums up what happens whenever I get the bright idea to try to make a tremor team

bronze zephyr
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hjsdbjhsdbfds

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I made a tremor team that's like. half sinking

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I just went

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i like sinking, i will treat tremor as the secondary status

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excited for more LCA

lean fjord
dusty sigil
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Chat, what’s the annoying buzzword people use for each sinner to explain their character?

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Like Outcast for Gregor

atomic steeple
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Okay so, better get sl yi sang

main scaffoldBOT
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Yeh

atomic steeple
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Gonna save up a lot, since I have my eye on the sinking units this season but wanna build the right team for capstone ryoshu

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So I gotta wait

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With events, I will probably have a lot of shards abd boxes

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Right now, I jave almost 400 yellow boxes

stoic fjord
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Wisdom teeth removed

atomic steeple
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Thinking on my form empties after reading about karma

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On how one way karma is seen is your actions affecting the world and thus you

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And mfe being basically a corrupted faith that doesn't bring enlightenment

gentle mulch
atomic steeple
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So I guess one of its meanings is organizations/beliefs being twisted, and people not questioning them, allowing abuses from it

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Thus the big lust association

gentle mulch
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hokma was right..

split beacon
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so Rien Sang's answer to Sinking Deluge nukes is uh

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9 Sinking procs at count-neutral

gentle mulch
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Just Kill Them

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Legiterally Just Kill Them

uneven canopy
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what if you just murdered them

split beacon
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well it is also Just Kill Them but also when you have Furioso Replica ready to rock for the second time in an encounter, it becomes Sinking count neutral

gentle mulch
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It's not even a one coin reuse that is 9 fucking coins raw

atomic steeple
# gentle mulch hokma was right..

Also why it's a waw
This is a strong concept in human history
Adds an interesting angle to the ego
Heathcliff came from a traditional rich house rife with cycles of abuse

atomic steeple
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There's that battle event where there's a mind controlled crowd, and a sinner resists the false buddha and calls it out

atomic steeple
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Did ruina glitch? I didn't get the book of mei from the liu reception

lean fjord
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could have just gotten unlucky

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drops aren't always guaranteed, especially if you kill them at lower emotion level

atomic steeple
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Strange, guess even nogrind doesn't prevent that

lean fjord
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it does not

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NoGrind just makes it so if you do get a drop, you get the max amount

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it's happened to me a couple times too, especially with the character specific books

lean fjord
dusty sigil
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Chat, who are we thinking for the new MD’s secret boss?

atomic steeple
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"Okay, I don't need to worry abput big bird's defense skills"
Librarian gets staggered by clashing defense dice
"Are you fucking kidding me"

mystic ermine
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Well, if all my starlight is leaving me, then I wish to see John Poise pop the fuck off first

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...actually, maybe I should try a proper POise team with Bl gif- fuck, right, my third BL Is fucken
Sinclair

mystic ermine
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Fucken
cut so hard my screen went dark
what the fuck dude

mystic ermine
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I... think ||Callisto|| could work? Maybe ||Matthias||, too

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Rien? Rien.

dusty sigil
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I mean any of them could work tbh

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Besides the Dihui Star

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Since she’s a 1v1 boss

mystic ermine
atomic steeple
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So are the birdcage cards useless or what

dusty sigil
cloud wadi
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rien with furioso

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9 unbreakable coin furioso

atomic steeple
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Like, clashing my librarian means nothing since big bird walks up and decapitates them anyway
And locking speed dice only happens next turn

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Ah, it's a counter

mystic ermine
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FUCK this chicken

atomic steeple
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I am getting it now

lean fjord
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Renclair looks so good

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new Poise with Index IDs looks pretty nice

cloud wadi
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Yeah

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Index poise is where it’s at rn

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Okay

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That’s a lie

lean fjord
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~~finally I can bench the BL ~~

cloud wadi
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Best poise team still remains rupture poise with heishous and Ishmael

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But for pure poise it’s the index

lean fjord
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so probably the three Index IDs, Renclair, Full Stops, and Maid Ryoshu?

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once Riensang is out

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still has access to both Thora too

cloud wadi
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Yeah sounds about right

split beacon
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sinking-poise with the Index, Full Stops, Hohenheim Gregor and LCA Outis seems really good

cloud wadi
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Index with guns

split beacon
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get some Pierce synergy between the gun enjoyers

cloud wadi
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Sinking but “I just kill you” kind of sinking

split beacon
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wait wait

cloud wadi
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Who cares about the count when you’ve got the damage

split beacon
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probably drop one of the Sinking gunners for Kodya huh

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well

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honestly who cares we're barely trafficking in Sinking conditionals with that team

cloud wadi
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Kodya gets to pretend to be a poise id for a treat

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Yeah

split beacon
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Hohenheim Greg is mostly just looking to do his bullshit

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LCA Outis's conditionals I guess are hurt by this but uhh

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who cares?

atomic steeple
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But
But I clashed all speed slots
Why did my librarian still die?

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
dusty sigil
eternal gull
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when is nursedaddy hongler out

split beacon
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3 days

eternal gull
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I must MD

atomic steeple
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Oh I finally beat big bird

eternal gull
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hell yeah!!!

mystic ermine
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Sinclair, I don't even have any poise fusions
how the fuck
are you almsot clashing a 60

cloud wadi
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He’s starting to believe in himself

split beacon
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He's kind of a monster

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he's kind of insane

cloud wadi
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He can sometimes do four digit damage out of mirror dungeon

neat cedar
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Ren was throwing

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so fuckin hard

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it's insane

split beacon
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Ren was explicitly and deliberately not trying

neat cedar
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"I am.merely a humble.apprentice" he says while the alt version ofnhim is turning lei heng into tiasue paper

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ye

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likr i said

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he was throwing

split beacon
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Also I gotta say

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The model of making a one-coin S3 that gains attack weight as its scaling factor is very cool designwise

neat cedar
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mhmm

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i like the coin and targeting shenagans they're doijg rhis canto

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thr rien sang's s3-2

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is also just

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very solid design

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itntrades out explosiveness for stability

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tho

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if we face enemies with coin power drop

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big oof

split beacon
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Just don’t Furioso when it would be hamstrung

neat cedar
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i'm also sick about people complaining about burn season

split beacon
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burn season was a lie

neat cedar
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it was never even a promise

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and what wr're getting is way more interesting

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also

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ifnwe're followijg a potential pattern

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i'm going to hazard a guess that

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or

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thumb and ring apprentices

keen palm
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Yknow

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I still dont get it

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Why Have a Not-Roland

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From a writing perspective

ebon forge
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Outis gets more context out of it, for one

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Let’s see, we then have the library being important for future stuff

cloud wadi
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I think creative sterility on the part of the index tbh

ebon forge
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I think he also adds to the whole idea of what the Index is actually trying to do

cloud wadi
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Or maybe

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A sign of Index attempting communication to Us directly

hybrid lynx
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roland escaped the cycle of violence of the city, and the will of the city is trying to recreate it artificially

cloud wadi
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Rien being Roland is meaningless to everyone

ebon forge
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Yeah

cloud wadi
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Except Us

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Could be a sign that index is aware of Us

neat cedar
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We lack information of how the Index, or Hermes think

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to really say why it wanted Roland

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personally i think it's a reference to the fact that

ebon forge
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I’m convinced Limbus is a mirror world of IRL

neat cedar
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the Greek gods loved championing heroes

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I think Hermes was just a fan and wanted their own

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but it failed

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okay more than that, but i do think that the core reasoning was something of that nature

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the greek gods are known for being very vain and petty innwhat they want

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and thus, causing disaster for mortals due to their whims

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and it would fit the kind of twisting of ideals the Fingers embody if the cause for all the sufferong the index causes

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was just to sate the whimes of a petty pantheon

atomic steeple
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Okay, almost did gebura well
Just need to master the udjat

neat cedar
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woot

neat cedar
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Limbus hasn't really stepped through that 4th person wall with it'a characters before and i don't think it really helps thebstory at this moment to do so

keen palm
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It kinda has

stoic fjord
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and with ryoshu specifically!

neat cedar
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Has it?

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It has reached out to Dante i know, but not the player to my knowledge

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and Dante does not know who roland is

ebon forge
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Hermes forgot to give Rien a hot girlfriend who can beat the shit out of him

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This is why the Lolang plan failed

stoic fjord
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Carmen just acknowledges that it's similar to Gebura

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nothing about like. wink wink nudge nudge

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remember this?

gentle mulch
neat cedar
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brcause she's talking to Dante in those momenrs

cloud wadi
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I don’t think she’s talking to Dante

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Dante never acknowledges the uptie stories

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Only the menu dialogue

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Carmen’s speaking to a mysterious third party who’s not Dante I think

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A mysterious third party with awareness of previous games

neat cedar
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I mean, they do though

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notably the W corp ones are brought up

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when that becomes relevant

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not direcrly as stories but

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Dante knows what goes on in the trains.because of them

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Inthink it makes more sense that carmen is communicating with Dante and dnate doesn't bring atuff up because it's usually not that relevant

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then carmen speaking to the player directly

unique bane
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if i had to guess, it's hermes trying to recreate the situation that led to the second tree of light at the end of lor but not really knowing or understanding why and how that happened

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all it can create is a hollow imitation without any actual pathos

keen palm
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I think its impossible to bring up more than general notes from uptie stories because you cant guarantee anything

unique bane
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what confuses me is the bits taken from argalia
mostly the scythe
if the point is to imitate roland, why do that?

atomic steeple
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The prescripts might be bound by repetition and cyclicality
This canto had a lot of ties and chains
And followed up on a lot of hanging threads (gregor, moses, sinclair)
So rien might be meant to be, at least in part, "detritus" from the existence of roland and argalia

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Ripples that formed an image, an useful one

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But not only is a person unable to fully imitate another, roland's choice at the end cut him off from the chains of the city

neat cedar
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for the last 20+ something years he's been doing the rien thing

unique bane
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prescripts are acausal so i don't think when really matters

neat cedar
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but he had a career before that

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yeah but rien being roland is not

unique bane
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and it's not my point
my point is i don't get why the two are mixed together

neat cedar
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they were given that order at a specific time

unique bane
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maybe there's some ambiguity as to who that fixer in the library is

neat cedar
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so i think they tried to make him liek argalia first

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and then switched it

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or wait no

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he had to observe argalia

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so.he was fully rien at that point

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so maybe they tried to fuse the two in some way?

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hard to say since we can only guess at the why

unique bane
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idk
maybe riensang's uptie will hint at why

atomic steeple
#

Love binah's dialogue
She wants to put roland under a microscope
Kind of woman who'd watch reaction compilations
I caught too many screencaps of her

neat cedar
#

Making people extremely uncomofrtable with words alone is binah's favorite activity

neat cedar
ebon forge
#

today i saw a take so bad even Kromer would think its a bad take and she's full of them

bronze zephyr
#

Oh no

faint pivot
ebon forge
faint pivot
# keen palm From a writing perspective

Considering the not!EGO gear Sora has, InFau's UT story having (what I presume is) a failed Yan the 2nd, Rien having sloppy Shin, and also the Furioso from nowhere, I'm guessing it's less that the Index wants Roland specifically and moreso that it Needs to get stronger

keen palm
#

There is absolutely no point in mentioning it without telling us what it is

faint pivot
#

He can't defend with it

bronze zephyr
#

Oh interesting

faint pivot
#

Or wait was it Mang

#

I'm thinking of the aura that comes with a buff, not the rings of light

keen palm
#

Oh yeah people are silly

#

I saw a big thing about thinking Lei Heng was a rapist

ebon forge
#

It’s a 20 minute video

#

People are stupid lmao

neat cedar
#

coin power up only increase final power, but it might also lower it

#

unsurr

stoic fjord
#

🥀

atomic steeple
gentle mulch
#

edgelords

neat cedar
#

or.vibes?

stoic fjord
#

Even if metaphor, I still feel like there's not much backing to it

#

Especially compared to Canto 8

neat cedar
#

You mean

#

aside.from

#

the.text he's based on?

#

where he is.clearly based on in part the lord horikawa

gentle mulch
#

canto 8's evidence was that lei heng was southern so not much of a difference

neat cedar
#

who was absolutely doing thay

#

no

#

big diff

gentle mulch
#

@juniper

neat cedar
#

oh

#

yeah the Lei heng thing was just

#

vine sthat felt a bit slimey

#

and people taking that and running with it

#

Rien, like all.the NF, is meant to.be an abusive parental.figure

#

i do not tbink he is meant to embody that kind of abuse

#

but i do think it's a vianle.enough read givem his.mannerisms

ebon forge
#

But really stupid analysis

neat cedar
#

*as in a "canon he did this" way

ebon forge
#

I didn’t bother to watch it

neat cedar
#

i feel that it's not that far a leap given what C9 touches on

ebon forge
#

Anyways it’s just misinterpreting the whole text grossly just to make a point that doesn’t even work

gentle mulch
#

i like attributing the source character's actions to what is told in the story is like

#

doesnt really work

keen palm
gentle mulch
#

because. look at heathcliff's source material

#

i wouldnt call heathcliff [limbus] a shitty person and sling all these attributes on him because of what he did in the source book

neat cedar
#

it's not the intent by the text of course

#

and also.just

#

the tactics and way he does his abuse

ebon forge
#

It’s really hard to read what you’re typing

neat cedar
#

on mobile

#

sorry

atomic steeple
#

Frequently, construction companies are villains in South Korean series. Very corrupt
Getting vurious what we'll see with p corp

gentle mulch
#

the worst torture imaginable

ebon forge
gentle mulch
ebon forge
#

Like, she still severs the thread, and she still hates their guts, but it’s also like, there’s a line you can’t cross before you become a true irredeemable monster

#

And so I feel like given how aside from PMoon not putting it into a CW, it’s also just, it wouldn’t fit the story or the concepts at all

neat cedar
#

narratively, yes

#

irl?

gentle mulch
#

yeah i think before ryoshu really interrogates it rien is one of the more inoffensive nursefathers

#

and then the whole leash and stuff happens and it's like. yeah we gotta kill you too lol

keen palm
#

Heath is still kind of a shitty person but hes getting better

#

He definitely starts as a shitty person

gentle mulch
#

he does

cloud wadi
#

All the sinners are bad people

neat cedar
#

but yeah, it's whyni asked

cloud wadi
#

But they are getting better

gentle mulch
#

i do think heath is still like

neat cedar
#

"Did this oersin say ruen did this in the text of limbus"

gentle mulch
#

way more well adjusted than most of them

neat cedar
#

bevause in that case then the anaswer is obviously no

gentle mulch
#

by the end of his canto

neat cedar
#

But you can 100% use rien as a way to.discuss that form.of.abuse without.actually using the subject manner

cloud wadi
#

I do tend to agree that Dihui Star essentially being kidnapped and being forced to raise child is reminiscent to SA even if Rien isn’t actually SA

atomic steeple
#

Yeah

cloud wadi
#

Ultimately I don’t think there’s too much more to look into other than that

#

It’s a theme that pmoon very intentionally barely touches on

faint pivot
#

I'm thankful for that tbh

#

The City does NOT need to be bleaker

neat cedar
#

ye

atomic steeple
#

It explores the themes without being triggering

faint pivot
#

And while I'll admit that not including them explicitly makes storytelling in that direction awkward (these are still stories worth telling)...I peek into a world where the City's tech is used for that kind of stuff and close my mind's eye

bronze zephyr
#

nodsndos

neat cedar
#

ur point is still valid, mind

uneven canopy
neat cedar
#

over all.i think it is a valid analysis fir canto.9 but not one that like

#

unsure the word

keen palm
#

Who is white xichun

atomic steeple
#

Faust n corp I guess

faint pivot
#

I thought that was Xishmael

uneven canopy
#

i think that's just Xiclair

#

yea this would probably fit him

faint pivot
#

Absolute peak

gentle mulch
#

genuinely what the fuck is the furioso replica is going to max roll

tiny cave
true bluff
#

probably roll like a 60 if you get all heads, since I can only assume the prescripts are gonna be fucking rough to do.

#

probably will end up getting hella nerfed if the prescripts are too easy to do.

tiny cave
dusty sigil
tired canyon
#

I like to imagine onrush is just
gebura running into people and exploding then like omniman

gentle mulch
#

yeah i imagine it like

#

she slices at you and if her blade doesnt get stuck she either body checks through you or dahes through your bisected body onto the next target

tired canyon
#

sorry not omniman

#

a-train

#

confusing awful superheroes

keen palm
#

Omni man does just fly through people

stoic fjord
#

So the singularities are just like

#

Fucking magic

split beacon
#

mmmmaybe?

#

maybe.

keen palm
#

Singularities do seem to be born from outskirts magic yes

split beacon
#

they're loosely implied to be, like, stolen or gifted or somehow granted via the stars, who can only be reached in the borderland beyond the outskirts of the City

#

there's some question as to like

#

if reality is still real in the way that it is in the City when you go out there

stoic fjord
#

The Outskirts and everything related is genuinely so mysterious it's insane

vagrant dove
vagrant dove
#

What do you mean there are nebulae down there Sanson

mystic ermine
#

-# heh.

mystic ermine
#

something about reversing the cause and effect

#

or rather, making the effect trigger the cause, rather than the other way around

#

it's a bit fucky
and not quite paracausal
nor a-causal
more like...

faint pivot
cosmic gorge
#

so uhh

#

does Cockheath work ok in a non heishou burn team

tiny cave
#

yeah

#

you just

#

8 sinner deployment

#

#7 is heath, #8 is cockclair

#

put lord hong in there

#

counter every turn until they've both used up their allotment of free s3s

#

hopefully everything is dead by then

gentle mulch
#

usually just send them in when enemies are about to be staggered/already staggered

cosmic gorge
#

ah ok, hes still very much more effective with lord hong?

#

i was hoping to pad out my burn team

tiny cave
#

yeah

#

and you only want 8 sinners so heath and sinc can keep swapping

cosmic gorge
#

ah
what other ways to switch em out aside from el honger

#

devyat rodya?

tiny cave
#

uhh

#

you need el honger so they get the free skills

#

if you don't have him there's no point swapping them

gentle mulch
#

dont think you get the s3 without konghong

tiny cave
#

yeah

#

konghong gives a free s1 and a free s3 whenever he uses counter

#

he's like fine on burn alone

#

he does good damage, burn maintains pretty easily

gentle mulch
#

which gives a fuck ton of envy/lust/wrath iirc

cosmic gorge
#

hmm isee

tiny cave
#

he isn't gonna do anything special but do you care

#

can't remember what his actual infliction is

#

i think he has good potency which is good

gentle mulch
#

i think around 6 per s3 use? or something

tiny cave
#

yeah 4 potency s1 with bloodflame
4 potency s2
9 potency s3

#

which iirc is pretty high for burn units

gentle mulch
#

apparently so

#

though i dont think many use them for the application

tiny cave
#

yeah he's mostly just damage but its a burn team

#

like

gentle mulch
#

collect my skill uses

tiny cave
#

every unit is just damage except magic bullet outis

gentle mulch
#

p much

tiny cave
#

burn might as well be "easy to maintain coin power +2"

gentle mulch
#

yuuuup

cosmic gorge
#

ah shit rare ||kong qiu|| pull on my canto 8 mirror dungeon pack

stoic fjord
#

MILI DROPPED

mystic ermine
#

So.
Durante, right?
"during", or "in the time of"

#

Dante
hm

#

I
hm.
Durante Ira
loosely "in the time of wrath" or "during wrath"
or
something
Idfk
I'm
thorwing words at a wall and see if something sticks

#

becuase
I
hm....

#

Dante, clock, durante, during, ||sephiroth names||, tree of ||light||, life, ||grafting||, wishes, Star, Nebulae

#

fucken
AAAHHH
SOMETHING HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING

#

BUT WHAT DOES WHAT

#

Hm.
have there been any theories in that direction?

cloud wadi
#

Durante is latin probably

#

meaning to Endure

#

hmm

#

no wait its used as a preposition so it should mean During

#

but also Durante is a pun

#

its the true name of Dante

#

because Dante is a shortened form of Durante

#

his full name is Durante degli Alighieri

mystic ermine
#

okay okay aoky
so

#

...

#

fuck, what do we do with that

#

Durante ||Morositas||
...fuck, what's that mean again?

#

||Mercy?||

#

chrm
"||During Wrath||"
during... meaning here
hm
I
hm.
it has effects based on... on... the ||Sins||, yes

#

since Dante went through hell to learn the nature of sin in the original, I htink

#

couldn't this be them learning that "in times of ||wrath||, do this"?
like
when somebody is ||lashing out at the world, at everything, regardless of correlation, forge a chain unbreakable and pull them back||
or
something
hm.

#

that could be a thing?

#

Limbus has lore
I promise

#

I just
can't piece it all together yet

dusty sigil
#

Chatroom, I have a very important question

#

Could Roland solve the Kira case?

tiny cave
dusty sigil
#

I feel like Roland was always more on the “do the job and be done with it” side of fixers

mystic ermine
# dusty sigil Could Roland solve the Kira case?

Hm.
he might, for some time, though I fear he might project his own lost child onto her, to some degree
which might be a good thing, as in care for her more, but it might also spiral into an obssesivness to keep her safe, unable to actually "live" the world -i.e overbearing
alternatively, cry himself to sleep knowing that this will never be what he believes lost, and begin distancing himself without knowing

dusty sigil
#

Wait

#

I just realized

#

Y’all are referring to Project Moon Kira

#

I was referring to the BL manga

mystic ermine
#

BL?

#

I... you mean Death Note??

#

do you?

dusty sigil
#

Yah

mystic ermine
#

or
is there another Kira floating about

#

how many godsdamned Kira's are there

dusty sigil
#

Yah I was asking if Roland could catch light as Kira

mystic ermine
#

Hm

#

I... hm... perhaps?

stoic fjord
#

Before we level the playing field

#

Superbia being arrogance or pride... I can kind of see it there too

mystic ermine
#

Wahhh that scene is
So
hype
It
It bringeth tears to mine eyes

tiny cave
stoic fjord
atomic steeple
atomic steeple
faint pivot
#

...hm

#

"In times of ||Sloth, beat the tardiness and go faster||"
||"When you are falling behind, race, to reach the far beyond"||

stoic fjord
#

and so they pushed past it

#

I think this is like

#

pretty much just why the names are thematic

#

for like, connection to the Sephirah and further insights, I'm not sure

faint pivot
#

...Binah is pride

#

Guess why she's in the Library

#

Hokma is sloth

#

Pal sure ain't fucking moving on!

#

Chesed is gloom

#

I'm sorry pal you never stood a chance against Garion

#

And Gebura is wrath

#

Simple enough.

dusty sigil
#

From @ landobristly

bronze zephyr
#

hm there's 9 librarians but 7 sins

#

i guess malkuth. is malkuth

#

netzach is likely gluttony

dusty sigil
faint pivot
#

Nothing's brown

#

Or gold

#

Closest is sloth but Hokma got it

bronze zephyr
#

I feel like malkuth is an outlier

faint pivot
#

That'd be pretty cool

bronze zephyr
#

also binah has pride but shes not blue so i dont think colors are That 1 to 1

faint pivot
#

Also

faint pivot
#

Hokma is white

#

...I have to wonder about the locks on Gregsy's EGO

#

But aam too eepy

#

So eep ai go, gn y'all

bronze zephyr
#

nini

cloud wadi
#

Hokma is always about taking that first one step into the unknown

#

When you don’t fully know the outcome

mystic ermine
#

I mean

#

shit I guess

#

Watch me cut this gnome in half

#

aaalmost

bronze zephyr
#

LOL

mystic ermine
#

I
I forgot I
had one already

cloud wadi
#

Lmfao

mystic ermine
ebon forge
#

only 30 IDs missing now

mystic ermine
#

Heh
speaking of 4

mystic ermine
#

THe
the fuck do you
mean
42 evade

cloud wadi
#

Perish

mystic ermine
#

AND THUS IT ENDS

#

i

#

i forgot to

#

look at the stats

main scaffoldBOT
#

💀

bronze zephyr
#

LOL

eternal gull
cloud wadi
#

By rrdjkg

keen palm
#

I dont get the first comic

split beacon
#

She timeshifted to an age where it would be illegal to buy drinks and smokes

cloud wadi
#

She timeshifted into being a schoolgirl while trying to buy cigarettes and booze

split beacon
#

Man

#

Can you imagine how happy Hubert would be if we asked him to resolve Araya’s health condition

#

shows him the coolest thing ever
“we really need your help I know it’s asking a lot-“

keen palm
#

Oh thats Araya

eternal gull
atomic steeple
#

Happy little British dance

cloud wadi
#

Oh yeah a bonus scene

ebon forge
eternal gull
#

so that I could get Riensang without having to worry "oh will by lunacy not be enough to pull him by happenschance"

atomic steeple
#

I just shard

true bluff
#

yeah, I also just grind, hell most of these ID's won't be going anywhere for atleast a few months.

#

The only time to maybe risk a pull is walpugi's, but even then!
They are going to be more common this year? so even less worry.

gentle mulch
#

unless they pull out something really appealing idk if im going to be interested in this next walp even

#

we already have solemn lament soooo

#

and the magical girls

true bluff
#

I want more charge units for walpurgi's because that'd be nice.

gentle mulch
#

if we get KoG and SoW then yeah im pulling but unless it's that ehhh 40/60 ill pass

#

id like a proper charge team than charge coworkers

true bluff
#

I'd want Hong lu, or someone else to get a Charge ID that I could swap hong lu out for.

bronze zephyr
#

I think we aren't getting charge a second time in a row

#

Woodsman Meursault is my guess

true bluff
#

wait they don't have a date for the next walpurgi's yet do they

gentle mulch
#

no

#

feb 27th is the roadmap

#

i maaaay be interested in a meursault id because theyve been

#

great so far

bronze zephyr
#

Mhm

#

He’s the only character without a walp ID

faint pivot
#

Good lord

#

I misse d the reply button but

faint pivot
#

Tis has me pulling the fucking don't laugh face in public

faint pivot
#

Thank you for the Teto version

gentle mulch
#

i love outis

#

you look silly but ily

#

now that im doing my dailies

#

it's genuinely shocking the disparty between thread vs exp payout rates

ebon forge
#

Yeah

#

You get like, 10, right?

gentle mulch
#

18 x 3 thread per day because of bonus
6 blues per day because of exp

ebon forge
#

I skip once daily so 18 for me

bronze zephyr
#

Event soon…… events will fix resource problem surely…

gentle mulch
#

oh yeah walp missions should help marginally

#

bokgaks are the goattttt tho

ebon forge
#

It takes fourteen fucking days do do a UT1 -> 4

#

Plus 50 shards

gentle mulch
#

the difference being if you roll or turn shards into thread you can get more

#

but theres no conversion for exp

bronze zephyr
#

Oh I forgot u can do that

#

I never do

gentle mulch
#

i usually do it near the end of a season

#

since

#

yk. no more cool ids to shard

#

like im not gonna save up for reindeer rodion

bronze zephyr
#

Yeah lol

tiny cave
bronze zephyr
#

Ooh you’re right actually

quaint cliff
gentle mulch
#

youre probably better off for it but as soon as bad end id drops im ripping it all off if she has aura

#

(attack weight)

#

i looooove attack weight

stoic fjord
#

please please please KJH

#

make Bad End Ryoshu + the fingers enable the most fucked up MD status team imaginable

#

first quadruple status or some shit

tiny cave
#

Poise burn bleed tremor sinking

stoic fjord
#

poise burn tremor from thumb

#

sinking poise burn from index

#

bleed tremor burn from middle

#

and

#

hrm

#

ring is odd

bronze zephyr
#

Bleed, and maybe charge

tiny cave
#

Ring is bleed main probably

#

I doubt they’ll be charge everyone seems to be Poise this season

#

It’s the poise season

stoic fjord
split beacon
#

Poiseburntremor from Thumb is actually fairly likely for Valencina Rodion

bronze zephyr
#

Mainly saying that cuz Corpus are unique charge technically

#

Oh I always forget Val is poise

faint pivot
#

Blood & Bones

tiny cave
#

Unique charge isn’t charge 😤

#

Everyone has unique charge these days

faint pivot
#

Idc, it is for EGO gifts

#

And I'm sure bringing Lantern Gregor over Firefist in MD solely because of the extra status

#

...and because the screams bother me
and because it's EGO gear
and because it's modified EGO gear
and because it fucks with clashing
and because it's a support

#

Did I mention that I love Lantern and Diffraction Gregor yet?

tiny cave
#

Waiting for Lobotomy EGO: Plague Doctor Dante

ebon forge
gentle mulch
#

where my fuckin burn IDs...

tiny cave
#

What do you think this is? The burn season?

bronze zephyr
#

If only

gentle mulch
#

my fuckin burn seaso 💥

faint pivot
#

Tis the Poise season!

#

Well-deserved cause Wuthering Heights was not the Poise season

cosmic gorge
#

Im not wondering why theres an uma im wonder why its This specific uma

ebon forge
#

anyways thats TM Opera O and i dont even know why i figured it out

ebon forge
#

YEAHHHHHHHHHH

split beacon
#

huh

#

how

ebon forge
#

pro haxxor

ebon forge
# split beacon how

open to "apply ira" confirmation, press absolutely most bottom left of screen to close all of it, then click back in and apply

#

wont consume ira

#

you have like, 1 pixel of clearance to close ALL tabs

#

if you dont close ALL then reopen the menu, it didnt work

#

so yeah

#

... im gonna use this in railway

cosmic gorge
#

which screen, the limbus screen?

ebon forge
cosmic gorge
#

isee

dusty sigil
#

With copious cheating

#

It’s now possible to beat lei Heng turn 1

unique bane
mystic ermine
#

No, ||Araya||, I shot ||your mother|| through the chest with a fell bullet so that Ishmael can substitute in and activate my tremor gifts in this tremor burn team, okay?

gentle mulch
#

this guy walks up and slaps ur sinners wyd
"Fell Bullet my Ryoshu and do my bremor setup"

mystic ermine
#

Oh I really hope I get him

#

I will clash 100

mystic ermine
#

Okay damn

gentle mulch
#

marry him

cloud wadi
#

Hokma is advancing even if you don’t know the future

mystic ermine
#

Oh yeah.

cloud wadi
#

Binah is introspection and understanding that you aren’t that different from another

#

(Opposite of pride)

mystic ermine
#

This isn't even his final form

mystic ermine
gentle mulch
#

Gebura is Her

faint pivot
#

Oh I was mostly looking at their pre-box counterparts

gentle mulch
#

the opposite of not being Her

mystic ermine
#

How does that apply to Geb?

faint pivot
#

I guess pre-CS applies too

cloud wadi
#

Geburah is rejecting mindless wrath and focusing on your power to defend another

gentle mulch
#

the courage to protect vs the destruction of wrath

mystic ermine
#

alright

cloud wadi
#

Retaliation is envy. Geburah is preventing the hurt in the first place yeah

faint pivot
#

Hm I see where I got mixed up

#

Everyone before their core suppression embody their sins

cloud wadi
#

Sefiras did embody those sin before core suppression yeah

faint pivot
#

Post suppression and into the Library, they oppose them

cloud wadi
#

Binah was “you might think you have dragged me to your level BUT IF YOU ASK ME IM STILL LORDINGOVER YOU”

faint pivot
#

Garion got turned into Binah

gentle mulch
#

that's why the tree of life thing is flipped or something

faint pivot
#

B & Hokma was 100000% sloth

gentle mulch
faint pivot
#

I could see the damn abyss in Chesed's cog-filter eyes

#

And Gebura chose to fight the abnormalities using attrition tactics

cloud wadi
#

Chesed post suppression is “if we all work together we can defeat even what seems to be an unstoppable machine”

faint pivot
#

I fucking love his floor so much

#

His realization too

cloud wadi
faint pivot
faint pivot
mystic ermine
#

I JUST NEED ONE HIDDEN BOSS, AND THE GOAL OF THIS MIRROR DUNGEON WILL HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED

#

actually

#

if I had the microprecision mechanism thingie interlocked thingemabob from TKTKT

#

this would have been 100

#

FUCK

#

haaah... no hidden boss

atomic steeple
#

Firefist greg is wrath, and he's insane amounts of revenge, mixed with a bit of cruelty

faint pivot
#

I think his cruelty is a lot more than "a bit"

mystic ermine
#

spoilers for canto 8

HOLY SHIT

#

please give me lei heng please give me lei heng please give me lei heng

#

I will fight him on floor 15 with max adversity

#

I will
I promise

#

FUCK

#

hjaaah...

#

aw...

elder wigeon
mystic ermine
#

goodness I fucking adore the music for ||distorted Heathcliff||

#

Got him.

#

What a fuzcking mess

#

We went through... ah...

#

7 sinners

vagrant dove
# mystic ermine

"but heathcliff, you really shoulda become a WAW if you really wanted to win" type damage

#

also distorted heathcliff's theme is fire

#

it's so good

gentle mulch
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if canto 10 is going to have the sp support that some of canto 9 has i might not need to rely on things

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like midsault

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nfaust

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liusang etc

split beacon
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-# u/chronzii

atomic steeple
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||Outis: mother in law?
Ryoshu, grabbing sword||

split beacon
ebon forge
quaint cliff
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John Limbus

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you can still make out Hindley’s fuckass haircut so clearly crylaughing

hybrid lynx
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Alongside the Dante suit fit

bronze zephyr
ebon forge
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same twice?

stoic fjord
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I'm gonna blow up

dusty sigil
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Pain

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But also chat, y’all think there any other relics we’ve seen in the series that weren’t mentioned to be relics?

gentle mulch
stoic fjord