Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[cloud wadi]

Well for index don

[split beacon]

to be fair, Index counters also let you put a thicc ass shield up

[cloud wadi]

It’s like having other, weaker, pathetic ids s3 on demand

Since it’s actually a clashable counter

[split beacon]

Forced Unlock and Prescript-Granted Cloth both come with a shield HP injection

[cloud wadi]

Clashable counter that gives you shields for some reason

[dusty sigil]

Clashable counters are their own thing

Outside of not being able to be used unopposed they’re basically normal skills

[cloud wadi]

Why does her cladhable counter give her shields

“Heads I win tails you lose” type situation

[split beacon]

holdover from her locked mode ig

[cloud wadi]

Ag well that explains it

I don’t think I’ve ever used her forced unlock counter before full unlock

[split beacon]

Forced Unlock is actually superb

[tiny cave]

It’s useful in unfocused

[split beacon]

if shit sucks and you can't unlock for whatever reason, like being in an unfocused battle

[tiny cave]

And if you don’t have EGO/S3 for the 6 grace prescript

[split beacon]

you just say "fuck this"

Forced Unlock

hold that shit

[cloud wadi]

Forced unlock or

“What if I can’t fulfill this prescript? What if I just say WILL OF THE PRESCRIPT ALIGNS WITH MEEEEE”

[split beacon]

you know

Callisto is really lucky he chose to choke Hohenheim leading up to that surprise attack

[tiny cave]

Eh kinda makes sense in character I guess, choking is the least likely to disrupt the “artwork”

[split beacon]

If Hohenheim had the strength to seize the momentum after that hit, he could've just kept ringing Callisto's bell until either EGO Diffraction or the skull prosthetic gave out

direct blunt-force trauma to the skull like that doesn't give a fuck how incredibly stupidly tough you or your prosthetic cyborg body are

like, on reflection that was a deeply precarious moment where if scruffy-looking had hit a home run it was just over, Callisto's dead on the spot

GGs idiot

that's Albina and a cooling corpse vs fuckin, Hohenheim, Alyssa (probably still out of action), Faust, Sinclair, and Ishmael, she doesn't win those

[uneven canopy]

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Bluesky · Jan 27, 2026, 3:57 PM

[neat cedar]

she's having a ball

[faint pivot]

I haven't read DD, what's those gears for?

[faint pivot]

YEAP

My balls are bluer than the damned great lake

KJH, why deprive us of two whole double status teams

[tiny cave]

udjat outis works pretty well with molar ish

molar ish needs trem for her passive, and she doesn't apply a hell of a lot of it herself, so udjat's tiny amount of count makes her much more consistent

I suspect we’ll see dark blue tremor some time this season

[faint pivot]

I'm talking about an MD double status team

xy
xy
x
x
x
y
y

That is not 5 y's

[tiny cave]

Oh right for MD hybrids

[faint pivot]

At least Blurn won't have to balance two SP droppers when it turns around

[mint cliff]

Good thing I had 400 Ish shards ready

[cosmic gorge]

30 year old zoomer ishmael

[atomic steeple]

I really need to make fanworks of r corp before we learn about it
Find people to shove inspiration of colonized countries

Trivia fact: Here in Brazil, a force in politics is the "bancada boi, bala, bíblia" aka "ox, bullet, bible table"
Turns out Brazil has a gun industry, in spite of guns being forbidden for a long time

[cosmic gorge]

oxman gun priest...

[tiny cave]

doesnt brazil have a black market cheese industry

black market gun industry sounds less far fetched than that

[atomic steeple]

It's not black market gun industry
I think they were mostly sold to foreign buyers

Saw tgat one war had a lot of guns made in Brazil

[crimson spindle]

Lmao they actually changed it https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qq0x2f/ryoshus_scabbard_font_updated

[atomic steeple]

Gonna be honest, it did look odd to me

[crimson spindle]

Yeah it was kinda bland looking

Default font lookin ass

[atomic steeple]

||Araya || had bland taste in letters

||Maybe she never learned to cudtomize fonts||

[tiny cave]

they killed ||callisto they they couldn't get an artistic font||

[crimson spindle]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/493841450487775636?l=english

The explanation is so funny

"Sorry Koreans barely use Hanja any more"

[tiny cave]

i've heard that it's also kinda dying out in china among the younger generations?

many people just type the characters in pinyin

[crimson spindle]

A lot of shortcuts get used online because its kind of a pain but its not dying out at all

The Chinese language straight up does not work without hanzi due to the very limited amount of phonemes

If you went to a phonetic version it would be immensely unclear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMI6Mbx8lbw

Online for common phrases and quick shit yeah you slap together something in pinyin or even use funny abbreviations

[atomic steeple]

Anyway
I am starting to think outis was part of some program to make monsters out of dead/dying soldiers

[crimson spindle]

But if you want to be clear you gotta write da words

[atomic steeple]

Taken from hospitals

[cosmic gorge]

hmm

and this was her sacrificing her crew to polyphemus

[tiny cave]

it was her boning circe for 7 years

[crimson spindle]

No it was Calypso for 7

Circe was like 1

Or less

[atomic steeple]

Calypso is gonna be so awful

[crimson spindle]

2.5ish years before all his crew are lost and winds up stuck with Calypso

[atomic steeple]

Oh my gods, she must have kept outis confined

[crimson spindle]

7 years with her

6ish months to get home post calypso

[tiny cave]

Calypso is gonna be so *hot
and everyone will end up simping for her just like they simp for every other evil woman in this story

I'm better on the nymphs being a-corp related or adjacent considering they're meant to be demigods in the mythology

[eternal gull]

what 😭

prescripts are prescripts buddy

[cosmic gorge]

prescript grammar machine broke

[eternal gull]

yeah I notice

[faint pivot]

You say this like Prescripts follow common sense and rules

It is as they say

Prescripts are prescripts

[faint pivot]

Anyway what an interesting way to bolster confidence

The Prescript truly knows best

[atomic steeple]

Hey, anyone got an easy list of power boost sources in Library of Ruina?

[faint pivot]

What stage are you at so that I can filter out the spoilers

Nevermind you can't

Here you go https://tiphereth.zasz.su/passives/?qd=Power&u=Player&sort=cost

Oh and Smoke at 9-10 stacks

I forgot about Strength so here's that + Endurance too
https://tiphereth.zasz.su/passives/?qd=Strength&u=Player&sort=cost
https://tiphereth.zasz.su/passives/?qd=Endurance&u=Player&sort=cost

[atomic steeple]

Thanks

I gotta start using smoke builds

[stoic fjord]

Smoke is actually kind of fucked in that it's genuinely just free damage if you can keep it up

[lean fjord]

Smoke is just a free damage amp for your whole team yeah

[lean fjord]

Where are you at in the game?

[cloud wadi]

Third smoke war when

[lean fjord]

Easy Strength sources of you're in Star is Fervor, and Offensive Position from Bayard

Nikolai also an easy +1 for the team

[atomic steeple]

I gotta start using smoke builds

[atomic steeple]

First row of star of the city

[lean fjord]

Okay you got Fervor at least then

Which is probably one of the most free passives for it, and you get a million Liu pages

And otherwise also just use keypages that already have power boosts like Kim

Don't know of you can access Allen with first row already

Puppets have Blunt power, Sayo has Slash, Oscar has pierce power

Attribute these onto other stuff you wanna use probably

[stoic fjord]

Allen has +2 to pierce and -2 to the other two types

very good for pierce

[lean fjord]

Yeah

Very good page

[stoic fjord]

if you want non-pierce eco pages

uh

no. or alternatively, unopposed or die

[lean fjord]

You go unopposed with Allen

[stoic fjord]

if you try to clash with a non-pierce page on allen you will eat shit and die

[lean fjord]

On econ

Which you mostly wanna do anyway because most econ pages are bad at clashing

[stoic fjord]

true

lowk bamboo-hatted kim is still viable in SotC, moreso with clone gashes, but i think still without

[lean fjord]

Kim is good

[stoic fjord]

just might wanna shuffle some pages around

[lean fjord]

Just give him a generic slashing load out before you get clone gashes

Yujin akso stays viable for quite a while, though the broken die starts hurting a lot in some fights in Star

[atomic steeple]

Oh I didn't finish the first row yet

Thumb 2 and liu 2 still need to be done
Allen too

[lean fjord]

You can also make a good gun squad with the Thumb Soldato

[atomic steeple]

Yeah, been running thumb netzach

[lean fjord]

Uhh, Puppets are great on Yesod

Just unga bunga with blunt

With Emma's page attributed for more blunt power

And the Bremen pages

Those got nerfed, but still a lot of buffing if everyone runs them

[stoic fjord]

the moment you get the Red Mist you can probably steamroll most of the rest of SotC, especially after you finish the R Corp stuff

[lean fjord]

Also use Singleton on any deck you can fit it

You don't have some of the really cracked ones from the Proxies, but Will of the Prescript is great already

[keen palm]

God Ardor Moth is a fuckin slog

[worthy haven]

Huh really? I do feel it's one of the faster new threads

[keen palm]

It's outclashing me like crazy

[cloud wadi]

it does do that yes

[stoic fjord]

Binah floor realization is pure pain

[vagrant dove]

Those birds that I hate

[atomic steeple]

Misinformation: if this card wins a clash, destroy all literacy dice

[split beacon]

okay but Big Bird tucked into bed is peak

honkshoo mimimi lookin ass

[vagrant dove]

I love how it's lantern is the nightlight lmao

[stoic fjord]

Punishing bird curled up with Judgement Bird is adorable

[dusty sigil]

I love punishment bird here

Also man chat, if we do get the birds as EGOs on 3 separate characters

I want an apocalypse bird gimmick so fucking bad

[vagrant dove]

Me when i use the three bird egos in the same round

They all corrode

[dusty sigil]

Yah something like if the 3 corrode they use apocalypse bird

[vagrant dove]

And then a cutscene starts playing

[stoic fjord]

Real

[vagrant dove]

(I'm cooked)

[split beacon]

so realistically it feels like how that plays out is

we get a Punishing Bird and a Big Bird EGO

and if both passives are set, when Judgment Bird is used, you instead invoke Apocalypse Bird

or something like that

[dusty sigil]

Also like, if we do get a bird themed Walp

[stoic fjord]

That sounds about right

[dusty sigil]

Who’s do y’all think will get each bird as an EGO?

Gregor may have big bird on lock because of this ID but idk

[vagrant dove]

I've been a big Meursault judgement bird truther

[stoic fjord]

Binah walp with Judgement and Big Bird IDs and Beak E.G.O

[dusty sigil]

I mean yah, Binah Lob Corp is absolutely gonna be the birds

That’s inevitable

[split beacon]

Meursault for Judgment Bird absolutely

[dusty sigil]

Yah absolutely

Don Punishing Bird is also a shoe in tbh

[split beacon]

tbh for Big Bird it'll probably be a Gregenheim compatibility thing

[stoic fjord]

Oh true

So maybe 1 ID two egos

[split beacon]

one thing we seem to get a fair amount of now is ID/EGO combos for EGO Gear IDs

[dusty sigil]

I mean not always, we got a solemn lament ID for Yi Sang but Gregor got the EGO

[split beacon]

yeah but that was before Magic Bullet Outis, Fell Bullet Sang, Madonka, and CARshu

[dusty sigil]

That’s true lol

[split beacon]

all got EGO Gear ID compability bonuses

[dusty sigil]

SL is kinda the exception that proves the rule

[split beacon]

CARshu's is insane btw

the fraud duo IDs are some of the IDs of all time tbh

[dusty sigil]

The ID or the EGO?

[split beacon]

the combo

[dusty sigil]

They’re both good I just wanna know which specifically you meant

[dusty sigil]

Ohhhhh

[split beacon]

like specifically CARshu has a silly ass combination bonus, which is that if you use the EGO at high Lust Res, you'll hit an entire enemy team and trigger her passive on every single one of them simultaneously, immediately setting up a nuclear S3-2

[dusty sigil]

Yah that is fucking crazy tbh

Also holy shit

They came out a year apart lol

also unrelated but man I still think this is the best Ryoshu has ever looked

shes got that shit on

[split beacon]

Another over-the-shoulder glare profile pose to Limbus Company!

[dusty sigil]

They do it really well!

[vagrant dove]

Both her id and ego are so dripped out

unfortunately Jia Huan is with that bum gubo (and doesn't have cool shades)

Which loses him major points

[split beacon]

The Contempt, Awe EGO gear also just looks way better in the battle sprites

In Jia Huan’s story sprite it looks terrible

[vagrant dove]

I like it in the story sprite

But yeah it does look a lot cooler on the field

[dusty sigil]

Look, they may be frauds but they still got that shit on

I do genuinely think Gubo actually rocks the fell bullet EGO gear better then Yi Sang tbh

the glasses add a lot

[vagrant dove]

I agree on that one

For the same reasons I think Ryoshu pulls it off better

The shades are neccessary

[dusty sigil]

yah

[split beacon]

Gubo is actually looking clean as hell in that fit

[dusty sigil]

I think it also helps the glasses means he has something to do with his off hand

Which is keep them up

Fell Bullet Yi Sang is kinda just standing there with his rifle resting on his shoulder

[split beacon]

I do like FB Yi Sang

But goddamn

[dusty sigil]

I do too

[split beacon]

The shades are a huge buff

[dusty sigil]

It’s hard not to pull off the fell Bullet look

But Gubo does it better

another clear example of why Yi Sang should have just stayed with him!

[vagrant dove]

I think Heath has my favorite FB fit

The abno's face half covering his is fire

[dusty sigil]

Yah Heathcliff looks amazing in it

The red scarf and arm also make him look sick as fuuuuuuuuck

Also man, after canto 9 I’m shocked Ryoshu didn’t get Fell Bullet

||Damaging her mind to the point where she can kill her loved ones is a specialty of hers||

[split beacon]

||she wants to cut the past off, but unlike Yi Sang or Heathcliff for her that doesn’t mean blasting away the memories of her loved ones||

||If anything she wants to cut the past away so she can save the person she loves most||

It’s why Heathcliff doesn’t have Great Trichiliocosm

[fluid whale]

lowkey I think Fell Bullet is the best fit EGO for Gubo since his one consistent character trait is sacrificing underlings for fun and profit so it makes sense he looks really good in it

[split beacon]

Yi Sang does because for him killing the past will free him, like Ryoshu, but unlike Heathcliff who’s just miserably attached to that past and has no desire to cut it away

[dusty sigil]

That does actually make sense yah

[dusty sigil]

Also thinking about it more, Yi Sang is maybe the only sinner so far where their past is still, entirely a burden to them yah

Every old league member we meet is esoteric at best or an active threat at worse

And the few that had a chance to reconnect to Yi Sang positively are dead now

[split beacon]

Nah Ryoshu heard she could kill the past and went YES, FUCK YES

Yi Sang is like “ I mean I probably should but I kinda liked how things were back then…”

And Heathcliff is actively trying not to

[lean fjord]

Yi Sang being stuck in the past is still his main flaw

It's why he's Sloth maxing too

[vagrant dove]

I think it's why he pairs so well with Gubo on a thematic level

Heart stuck in the past vs- as Gubo's panic type reflects- a heart facing towards the "new era"

[split beacon]

Gubo’s also fixated on the past, that’s the whole point of his heart facing towards the new era

He’s trying to tell himself he’s ready to change and abandon the past he’s so attached to

[lean fjord]

Gubo is also unable to let go of his past, yeah

It's why he's so fixated on Yi Sang

[vagrant dove]

I could have worded that a little better,, but I was kind of trying to get at Gubo's (unsuccessful) attempt to abandon of his past yeah- hence the new era in quotation marks

[bronze zephyr]

The fact the new league of nine is still called the league of nine is telling imo

[split beacon]

That one is on Hermann tbf

[bronze zephyr]

Though ig we don’t know how it was nmard

Yeah Herman just wanted to be funny probably

[uneven canopy]

trademark was open so she scooped it right up

[dusty sigil]

Why did she take the name anyway?

[split beacon]

The prestige? To drive Gubo and Yi Sang insane?

[vagrant dove]

Possibly because the group is invested in continuing mirror world research and 2 of the people we know joined early were old members of the LON?

Since Aseah's also part of it

It technically counts as a splinter branch

[keen palm]

imo

it's because Hermann's "primordial form of humanity" ties into the idea of becoming less like a character in a story written for you, and becoming an author

Notably, Hermann is a real-ass person, not a literary figure

[glad fable]

Isn’t that the same font but embossed

[bronze zephyr]

LOL

. yeah it is the same font im

[lean fjord]

looks like yeah

[dusty sigil]

Wait who’s Gregor’s mom in the metamorphosis then?

[glad fable]

Oh, the survey is asking if this works or if they should change the font entirely

[lean fjord]

I don't remember if Gregor's parents are actually named in the book

[mystic ermine]

I'll head to Horus Hangout and stream trying to beat Tiphereth's Core Meltdown
ah
ye

so
no spamming this one, then

[atomic steeple]

Hermann is actually the dad
Who throws apples at gregor

[dusty sigil]

Huh

[atomic steeple]

She represents both book dad

And kafka's issues with his father

[atomic steeple]

One apple wounds and lodges in his carapace, rotting abd infecting the wound

[lean fjord]

Hermann Kafka was Kafka's real life father

and it's who she is named after

[atomic steeple]

This, plus gregor starving himself, leads to gregor's death

The father is an oppressive figure in the book

[lean fjord]

though Gregor's father is almost definitely based on Kafka's own experiences with his father in some ways yes

[atomic steeple]

And irl, there's kafka's letter to his father
Which starts with "you ask why I'm afraid of you, but I can't articulate it"

[dusty sigil]

Jesus

[dusty sigil]

Ohhhh

[split beacon]

Yeah Hermann Limbus is a synthesis of Gregor’s dad and Kafka’s dad and if it surprises you that she’s a woman it shouldn’t at this point

[atomic steeple]

Success in a male dominated field

[split beacon]

Even though, hilariously, Canto 9 ended up putting it back on Worst Dad instead of being an evil moms story

[atomic steeple]

Canto 8 was evil grandparents

[dusty sigil]

The authors barely disguised trauma

[dusty sigil]

Yah canto 9 has both, though they’re abusive in very different ways

[atomic steeple]

The metamorphosis is a good book

[mystic ermine]

Urgh.

[atomic steeple]

It's about family, it's about employment, it's about economic/social classes

[dusty sigil]

Shiomi Yoru, extremely cruel but due to seeing herself in her daughter, Rien outwardly nice but only due to the emptiness of his actual emotions towards his daughter

[mystic ermine]

VIN DIESEL?!

[atomic steeple]

So what do we have on old L corp and its singularity?

[keen palm]

Nothing

[bronze zephyr]

Yeah, only thing we know is that it produced smoke right?

[lean fjord]

yes

[dusty sigil]

It might also look like this

Keyword might

[split beacon]

Oh also

We do know for facts that the biggest thing the Old L Corp Smoke did was numb the mind and cause failures in judgment

From ACS’s lore text

[keen palm]

oh that was lowercase L and not I

[atomic steeple]

Fuck it was ambiguous

Yeah I meant L corp

[crimson spindle]

yeah but that's still more in line with what they're trying to express, a sort of embossed/printed style

it definitely looks less like someone just printed the words on lol

[mystic ermine]

The huh.

[atomic steeple]

Old L corp also made you see the district streets as home, and act unnaturally nice and "happy"

[mystic ermine]

uiuuhhhh

[eternal gull]

:3

[atomic steeple]

It smelled of burnt flesh, I hear?

[mystic ermine]

AHG WHAT THE FUCK

[eternal gull]

shit lobcorp says

[split beacon]

The original version looked like someone had just typed over it with the text tool in photoshop

[mystic ermine]

YES

This is fuuckeed...

[split beacon]

26% survival rate lul

[mystic ermine]

https://giphy.com/gifs/animated-cinemagraph-walter-white-vMmnJti6wQPDy

[golden meadow]

ZAMN

[mystic ermine]

she will crush your skull like a lemon

[split beacon]

Tanya’s also not a commitment type

[golden meadow]

you say that as if there are some people (not me) who would enjoy such a thing (again, not me) (for extra clarification, i do not gain a 'thrill' from the idea of an attractive character causing me bodily harm in a 'thrilling' way, i am instead saying there are others who would derive enjoyment from such an 'excitement'- again, i am not speaking from my own experience, i am speaking of other people).

[mystic ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/examination-gif-26257853

[eternal gull]

I to, to clarify, would not like to, I would not gain a thrill form it being done, however, I concur that there are some poeple.

[eternal gull]

ma'am yes ma'am

[golden meadow]

me with the fuckass punishing bird

[stoic fjord]

200 red damage

[golden meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-kitty-yeet-funny-gif-21938191

[mystic ermine]

haaaahhh....

big sigh

[eternal gull]

he's so happy

[mystic ermine]

I have decided to systematically execute every clerk.

[eternal gull]

welfare department moment

[ebon forge]

Just had a thought

So we’re going in reverse order of heaven -> the kingdom of earth

[split beacon]

yea

[ebon forge]

Aka, inferno to purgatory, the space between earth and hell, iirc

Just a thought

[split beacon]

I don't know about that

[ebon forge]

Just a stupid thought I had

[split beacon]

Hell is considered below Earth and Heaven above

in Dante

[ebon forge]

Yeah I wasn’t sure on it

Just was a thought

[atomic steeple]

Though basically dante crosses the center of the earth

After the last circle

And climbs all the way to purgatory's island

[mystic ermine]

Local sinner doesn'tr get head

[gentle mulch]

can hohenheim become an EGOtist already

[vagrant dove]

Truthnuke

[stoic fjord]

Was scrolling youtube shorts

And got fucking jumpscared by Wuthering heights trailer

White Heathcliff is so scary

[split beacon]

today's ID trailer day yeah

[cosmic gorge]

Whitecliff and and bdsm-loving margot robbie cathy

[gentle mulch]

like 10ish hours until the reveal, right?

[main scaffold]

Hmm. It’s probably a bad idea to try to do MDE with our pure poise team instead of our prupture team, but I’m gonna do it anyway

[stoic fjord]

I've managed before

so

it's fiiiine

[split beacon]

Poise can do it

it's hard, much harder than dual-status because you only have one full set of ego gifts you can work with

-# @paulcamadonnas

[mystic ermine]

YEEES

MDE

50 Adversities

not a single hidden boss

[split beacon]

Oh yeah I did that team and that run

It’s pretty rough

[cosmic gorge]

Silly uncle lei heng is such a funny development for the guy after he was posthumously shown to be marginally a better mentor than five other horrible chucklefucks

[split beacon]

It’s so fucking funny

[main scaffold]

He, admittedly, tried to get Ryoshu to draw the sword on at least two different occasions even after learning what it did

[split beacon]

Lei Heng is so funny with the full context of his character and past

Like he’s just a clown ass bastard from Ryoshu’s past who consistently makes an ass of himself

[dusty sigil]

I hate new ebony Queen’s apple

I just did it and half my team didn’t win a single clash

[gentle mulch]

watching the waw abno beat the fraud allegations in real time as my sinners get wiped

lei heng really is just an uncle from The South

[stoic fjord]

still less of a clown in the Thumb than Valencina

[tiny cave]

Stop hitting the apple

[split beacon]

nah she'll clap your shit in clashes too

[gentle mulch]

turn 1 canto 9 abnos should play the slots

[tiny cave]

Doesn’t she only get the insane +6 atk power or whatever if you hit the apple

[gentle mulch]

universally maybe, but she gets buffs for each living arm too

[stoic fjord]

ebony queen's apple lowkey just fucking kills you

[tiny cave]

Oh nope the atk power is based on arms not fruit

[gentle mulch]

ebony queens apple lowkey just fucking kills you 🙂‍↕️

one day we'll visit the library and see The Actual Snow White's Apple Abno and

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[main scaffold]

(We are, at least, using mostly pierce IDs so we can somewhat make up for the lack of a second status)

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Hmm. It’s probably a bad idea to try to do MDE with our pure poise team instead of our prupture te…

[stoic fjord]

so I just said this and proceeded to take an average of like 15 damage per sinner

my assignments watching me from my other tabs as I boot up yet another fell bullet run to grind boxes for UT4 index faust

[dusty sigil]

I wasn’t! She just kept rolling heads

[tiny cave]

Luck correlates with skill

[dusty sigil]

She’s rolling 11s and I’m rolling 9s

[stoic fjord]

9 11

[dusty sigil]

It was like 15

[gentle mulch]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1973530/view/493841450487775636?l=english

[cloud wadi]

Honestly I disagree with the premise of trying to forcefully symbolize futurism with a traditional odachi in the first place

Well not futurism but like

Future-facing

Futuristic?

Whatever

The scabbard would need some major redesign to convey a futuristic feel

Make it purple neon letters for starters

Then stylize the with extremely messy writing style because that kind of punk-aesthetic stylization conveys futuristic outlook more than a clear font

[atomic steeple]

Grabbed someones advices of thumb with first scene power

Night awls down

[stoic fjord]

Allen is good with full pierce

[atomic steeple]

Nice

Netzach likes pierce

I am currently running thumb netzach

[main scaffold]

Hm. Well this seems bad.

Eh, what's the worse that could happen?

ah

[cosmic gorge]

Hype music

Sadly the ego gift he drops is better on a burnmor team

Enjoy the music tho

[main scaffold]

well that was easier than expected

[split beacon]

It’s a good ego gift no matter what though

[lean fjord]

all the secret boss gifts are good, just for the free coin power

[stoic fjord]

the bosses are easy before like, floor 14 and 15

[main scaffold]

All glory to Honglord and the ever amazing Si Heishou pack

That's a lot of projection!

Well that was hellish

I think we’re just gonna stick to hard runs from now on

Also is it just us or do EGOs scale really badly in mirror dungeons?

[tiny cave]

Depends on their keywords

Also any 4 coin 7 weight ego + sharp needle is great for high floors, just make sure not to clash with them most of the time

[dusty sigil]

I saw a tierlist of how likely it is each sinner has augmentations

And my personal thoughts on the matter is that all of them but Yi Sang and Sinclair are almost certainly augmented

[stoic fjord]

they actually do okay if they have multiple keywords for the rocks to boost

otherwise yeah they end up falling off

[dusty sigil]

Augments are common among grade 9 fixers and urban myth syndicates

If a sinner’s life involves violence at all, they’re almost certainly augmented

Maybe Don Quixote too depending on how old augments are

[cloud wadi]

Sorta because there’s a lot of ego gifts that give bonus to bass skills but not egos

[tiny cave]

Yi Sang: No, bro can’t fight for shit
Faust: Probably
Don: I doubt it unless you consider Rociante an augmentation
Ryoshu: Probably
Mersault: Nah he’s just that goated
Hong Lu: Definitely, no way his family didn’t give him augs
Heathcliff: Probably considering he was part of a syndicate for a while
Ishmael: Probably, she comes from what appears to be an upper middle class family?
Rodion: I doubt it, she’s broke af, probably spent all her aug money gambling
Sinclair: I’d say possibly, he seems more against prosthetics than augmentations, and his family is rich
Outis: Almost certainly given her smoke war history
Greg

[dusty sigil]

I mean Ryoshu we have a specific thing augmented

Her eyes

She got them when she was a baby

[tiny cave]

Ah right her eyes are augments not just replacements

[cloud wadi]

Teenager

Her eyes are prosthetic replacements yeah

[dusty sigil]

Nah Shiomi has her “her eyes were like mine” monologue when she was still a baby

She got ‘em young

[cloud wadi]

No she said the only part of Ryoshu that didn’t resemble her were the eyes

[dusty sigil]

Shit did I misremember?

[tiny cave]

Consider DD Vespa iirc had no augments

[cloud wadi]

There was a likely art errror

[tiny cave]

He was just that goated

[cloud wadi]

That had baby Ryoshu have red eyes

[dusty sigil]

Wait what?

[tiny cave]

Yeah I’m pretty sure he only got the augments between DD and Limbus

He was grade 1 without augments

[cloud wadi]

Vespa leaped buildings in his intro

Hard to believe he doesn’t have augments

[dusty sigil]

What the fuck is wrong with him?

[tiny cave]

He fights another fixer and him not having augments is mentioned in that fight iirc

[cloud wadi]

Hmm

[split beacon]

Vespa is notably not augmented, but rather, an experiment subject

They did something to him that is not prosthetic augmentation, but was horrifically dangerous, in an attempt to grant him the physical abilities required to use Flashblade swordsmanship

[tiny cave]

Bro is an experiment subject and they couldn’t give him a better haircut

[dusty sigil]

Ohhh

[split beacon]

DD stares he’s not auged and he isn’t, his lore text as an ally unit explains that as an orphan child he was the subject of a modification procedure with low survival odds

[dusty sigil]

Dude went through the Spartan 2 program

[split beacon]

Or, hmm, it says “augmentation” but I guess the line being drawn must be augmentation vs implants?

[main scaffold]

Perhaps a con has been ret

[eternal berry]

I definitely don't remember DD saying anything about Vespa's augmentation status
What chapters does he fight another Fixer? He murks the dude in charge of Dou Gui, he fights Edgar? forget if there's any others in there

[tiny cave]

Info is second hand so I don’t know exactly

[eternal berry]

Then I think they were just wrong or misheard that from somewhere else

[tiny cave]

Oh they’re citing the fight against Edgar

[cloud wadi]

Reread it—they say they don’t know what exact modification he has

[eternal berry]

He has tremendous muscular strength. He must have gained it through a multitude of augmentation procedures, and I assume he partakes in ceaseless physical training as well.

This is just Moses' conjecture, but it definitely seems like he's got the works City-wise

[cloud wadi]

But he probably is modified since he’s described taking direct hits from Ezra’s ego empowered fists without flinching.

[tiny cave]

Damn he’s juiced not natty 😔

[cloud wadi]

To the groin even

Ezra punched him in the dick

[main scaffold]

Ezra has EGO?

Charlie! ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) But he probably is modified since he’s described taking direct hits from Ezra’s ego empowered fists …

[cloud wadi]

With ego empowered fists

[eternal berry]

He does a multi-story leap, Ezra beats the everloving hell out of him and he just tanks it, he punches someone's head off later

[tiny cave]

You know that’s the first place anyone is augmenting

[cloud wadi]

And he didn’t even flinch

[tiny cave]

How can you live without a cyberdong

[dusty sigil]

Sorry misread the name

[cloud wadi]

Yeah she’s got a psychoment

[main scaffold]

Neat!

[dusty sigil]

But Ezra does briefly manifest a volatile EGO

[eternal berry]

Ezra's got an incomplete EGO, exoskeletal armor

[cloud wadi]

It manifests as armor around herself yeah

[tiny cave]

Didn’t think to manifest it against ||mathias||

[cloud wadi]

Dragon themed

[split beacon]

Okay I have reviewed the facts

He is in fact auged as hell

[dusty sigil]

It was volatile so she may not be able to resummon it at will

[split beacon]

No visible prosthetics

[main scaffold]

Volatile EGO seems potentially hazardous to use tbh

Gnocchian with Meatballs ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Didn’t think to manifest it against ||mathias||

[cloud wadi]

Moses suggest that starving him out will be unreliable because most fixers of his caliber would have tenacity augments allowing him to operate for long periods without eating

[tiny cave]

Just needs to accept Lord Ayin into her life

[cloud wadi]

It does turn out that he just ate Moses’ arms to survive but he still is doing much better than he should when he gets out

[gentle mulch]

i think yi sang and sinclair may have some form of tenacity augments then

[split beacon]

Volatile EGO is a risk

[main scaffold]

Speaking of beating up Vespa, what even is a solar plexus anyway

PULSEFIRE ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) He does a multi-story leap, Ezra beats the everloving hell out of him and he just tanks it, he punch…

[cloud wadi]

Center torso

[main scaffold]

Ahh

[tiny cave]

I’d imagine anti-sleep/eat augments are fairly common tbh

If they’re cheap enough

[cloud wadi]

There’s a point in he solar plexus

[gentle mulch]

yi sang: stomach for eating just anything even spoiled milk
sinclair: tenacity augment for being able to work/study for long periods of time

[cloud wadi]

Err center torso

[tiny cave]

Save time in the day

[cloud wadi]

That really hurts like hell if it gets struck

[split beacon]

The bundle of nerve endings that attaches to your spine to convey nerve signals from your internal organs to your brain

[gentle mulch]

i would be surprised if Sinclair didnt enjoy a few T Corp Study Slowmo capsules

[eternal berry]

it's the nervous complex between the center of the chest and your stomach

[cloud wadi]

It’s a nerve bundle yeah

So getting hit there… really hurts

[split beacon]

If you strike someone there hard enough, you’ll confuse the spine into thinking you just blew up all the organs in their body

Which, understandably

[tiny cave]

he's popping them all through spring cultivation when he's with xichun

[split beacon]

Is an unspeakable pain that completely incapacitates until the nervous system realizes what happened

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

Vespa took a blow that would incapacitate almost anyone

And don’t even flinch

[gentle mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/tamagotchi-lovelitchi-trve-true-gif-true-gif-10236770228519059896

[cloud wadi]

Or barely flinched

[gentle mulch]

said "oof"

[main scaffold]

So basically

[split beacon]

Hammering someone’s solar plexus is the mystical pressure point blow that martial arts movies love

But you just smash someone’s gut in as forcefully as possible

And they’re fucked

[main scaffold]

Ezra’s reaction to Vespa stealing her poptart was to try to hit the part of the body that causes indescribable pain

[cloud wadi]

Yes

[main scaffold]

Amazing

[dusty sigil]

He can take it

[cloud wadi]

At least she wasn’t wearing her workshop and ego empowered power fist

Like the time she was punching him in the groin

[gentle mulch]

can i get transition augments

[main scaffold]

Probably

There are probably workshops specialized in that even

[cloud wadi]

“…I must reassess you.”
Vespa mutters something. Ezra ignores his mumbling and continues to throw punches and kicks at him. Groin. Left chest. Laryngeal prominence. Right waist. Left calf. Solar plexus. Left cheek. Solar plexus. Groin. Rib. Left thigh. Groin again. Left waist. Ezra’s fists strike every known weakness of the human body that could be fatal. Vespa groans. But he does not collapse.```

(Vespa wins this fight btw)

(Or at least would have eventually won if he didn’t get trapped in the workshop)

[dusty sigil]

The 3 nut shots is crazy

[split beacon]

The thing about a strike to the solar plexus is that while it hurts pretty fucking bad, the primary effect isn’t pain because your body can’t process the hell that striking your nerve endings like that unleashes as pain properly

[cloud wadi]

Eventually he just summons gungnir back into his hand right through Ezra

[split beacon]

You just flop over and your breathing stops working correctly, as a really solid hit to the plexus outright fucks the controls for your diaphragm

[cloud wadi]

I imagine that pain editor and breathing control is like

Standard augments for fixers

Because I don’t know how so many fixers in the city shrugs off wounds that would incapacitate most real humans otherwise

[split beacon]

The solar plexus and the liver are the magic spots where you can actually-for-real hit someone and their nervous system goes “fuck, shit, what”

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

Left waist shots are either aimed at liver or kidney I think

[lean fjord]

Yeah it super knocks the wind out of you

[cloud wadi]

Or is it the right waist?

[split beacon]

Left hand, right side of the target’s body

[cloud wadi]

Yeah thats what I was thinking

[split beacon]

And, as Callisto found out, the third place a blunt impact will screw over the human body’s control system is the head

[cloud wadi]

But yeah Ezra’s flurry of blows was aimed at every critical part of the human body that would incapacitate or kill

And Vespa shrugged all of them off

[split beacon]

She really did, the only one I’m questioning is the left chest but that’s probably aimed at a kidney

[dusty sigil]

He shrugged off 3 workshop weapon enhanced dick punches

He may be the strongest color

For that alone

[cloud wadi]

Ego enhanced too lmao

She was wearing her volatile ego armor at the time

[dusty sigil]

Jesus Christ

[cloud wadi]

Gungnir punched right through it like its paper

[split beacon]

She went for all the big easily severed or bruised blood vessels, windpipe, solar plexus and liver, ribs to target breathing from another direction, left cheek to try and either knock him out or break his neck, and even tried to get his ACL

And also, his genitalia because lmao

Does Vespa even have weaknesses

[cloud wadi]

Lemme check his ally unit

[main scaffold]

Punctuality?

Lunatic Blue ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Does Vespa even have weaknesses

[cloud wadi]

He’s most vulnerable to blunt damage it says

Resistant to slash

Lmao

[dusty sigil]

So that was hitting his weakness too lol

[split beacon]

That’s crazy, he’s even blunt weak and hammering every human weakpoint scored nothing

[cloud wadi]

Nah he’s not blunt weak

He’s most vulnerable to blunt damage

But not blunt weak

Blunt 1x

Slash 0.5x

[split beacon]

They build em different in N Corp apparently

[dusty sigil]

Also yah, he does have the right amount of inhuman durability, ruthlessness and impassion that’s perfect for the fixer industry

No wonder he became a color

[cloud wadi]

He’s perfect for sloth

[eternal berry]

All this from a man younger than Ryoshu btw

[cloud wadi]

Because sloth also is the sin of “I’m gonna tank all your bullshit”

Vespa’s sin is never asking questions

Which I guess is sloth

He’s like emblematic of the most banal aspect of fixers

The equivalent of a train operator for the SS

[split beacon]

He’s improving while staying on with LCD tbh

[cloud wadi]

He just ferries undesirables from one side of the nest to the proper authorities

And never questions why he never sees the people he delivers to n corp ever again

Yeah

Moses is encouraging him to ask questions and have initiative

Rather than just doing what’s told

[split beacon]

The Vespa we saw in Canto 9 even volunteers personal preferences and opinions

[eternal berry]

In DD he’s a very “don’t ask me any uncomfortable questions and I won’t pry into you either” person

[cloud wadi]

This is this that is that mentality etc

[cloud wadi]

Even volunteers to help when he knows it will impede his primary objective

Simply because he thinks that’s the right thing to do

[split beacon]

Someday he might develop enough to be able to manifest an EGO

[cloud wadi]

Honestly he doesn’t need it

Not everyone needs to manifest ego to achieve their dreams

[split beacon]

Sure but it is a sign of individuating

[cloud wadi]

He already has allies by his side, a relic in his hands, and power in his fingers

Mmm… maybe

I always saw it more as a declaration of enmity against the world itself rather than individuating necessarily

Like individuating is part of it

But an important aspect of ego is telling the world that the world is the one that’s wrong

[split beacon]

Eh, I think that now that we’ve see the Renketsuen sheathe, it’s pretty clear to me that EGO doesn’t have to be so fiercely oppositional to the world as it is

[cloud wadi]

Hmm

Not sure how renketsuen sheath works tbh

Normally ego is like

Cladding yourself in your beliefs

[split beacon]

It is an EGO, we know that for sure

[cloud wadi]

But in her case her body disappeared, leaving behind her beliefs

So is that more like… a distortion?

Or just a disembodied ego

…can efloresced egos be inherited?

[split beacon]

I think that probably Renketsuen is the type of EGO that culminates with someone stating “the world isnt about me, it’s about [someone/something else]”

[cloud wadi]

So I guess blue rose from Wonderlab haha

[split beacon]

Which is still an egotistical belief

You’ve still decided you have the right to choose what matters

[cloud wadi]

Manifested from “Our sacrifice wasn’t in vain. We will do it all over again if given another chance. We did our best, nobody can disparage us for this.”

[split beacon]

Blue Rose is probably a similar type of EGO, yeah

[cloud wadi]

Would n corp Faust be useful again once we get more Hammer ids

[stoic fjord]

I feel like they'd make a better faction leader ID

[split beacon]

probably but it would be sick if we got Hammers whose gimmick is making the rest of N Corp stronger

[main scaffold]

Question: why the hell does Gregor of all people only have one sinking ID?

(I guess technically two now that we're getting Hohenheim Greg but still)

[stoic fjord]

his depression isn't as external

is my reasoning at least

he's not openly miserable and gloomy

whereas Yi Sang, who has uhhh

I think... 3 sinking ID

s

is kind of a bit more outwardly gloomy

hrm

if we get one more burn/sinking, and a burn/sinking/tremor

another triple status

[gentle mulch]

funny thing about h corp

ids

they seem to have the uhh

ranged attack priority for unopposed attacks like

heishou substitution

xishmael

etc

xishmael can spawn, get a s1, trigger dridyushu s1, s3, and i think s3 again with wusang?

which is just a fuck ton of gloom and envy for like

nothing, basically?

[split beacon]

Sure is

[gentle mulch]

and c/a ego means ryoshu generates an extra ego resource per attack

and she also has Her Normal Skill(s) usage to add onto that

[split beacon]

Using C/A on Driftshu means you get a lot of resources for free I think

[gentle mulch]

yeah

it's 2 ego resources of the lowest owned at minimum unless you're soloing turn 1

[split beacon]

https://youtu.be/7NWMeXPbnxY

this is actually absurd, Lei Heng hits a 18-damage Tigerslayer

[stoic fjord]

I saw this one

Immensely disrespectful

[faint pivot]

Surprisingly this of all ordeals what allowed me to progress Tiph's mission

I should get back into LobCorp

[main scaffold]

what

[faint pivot]

Yeah that's just something that Happens

[split beacon]

heishou ops can run through the night in the backstreets because that's just rooster food

cat heaven is rat hell type thing

[cloud wadi]

Yeah

Rooster heishous just kill sweepers every night

To buy time for other heishous to operate through the night

[hybrid lynx]

do you think they have fun doing that

[main scaffold]

The roosters are only having fun when they're fighting something tbh

...we have discovered a slight issue with using Wei Don
A lot of her attacks sound like she is in severe physical pain

[split beacon]

She... may be

[main scaffold]

Yeah!

[faint pivot]

I'm surprised that of all the punishments you can do to a bioaug, starving them was the Heishou's choice

Well, the You branch's choice anyway

[split beacon]

starving?

I think the implication is that if you lose your match during You Pack training instead of getting lunch early they make you do more matches until you win or you get your ass clobbered by Heathcliff and THEN you get to go eat, not that they starve you

the beatings will continue until morale improves

[split beacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HXwT4gefnQ

HE USES THE DIFFRACTION HAMMER

[tiny cave]

god this id looks so much like gunsang

[split beacon]

eh, I can see it for the skill 1 with the butt strike but after that it's pretty distinct

[tiny cave]

i mean the id picture

[split beacon]

oh lmao

also Renclair is very cool, they're really selling the idea that he can draw his sword and return it to the sheathe fast enough we can barely see what he did

[bronze zephyr]

RENCLAIR HATES KIRAMAEL LMAO

[split beacon]

they finally settled the question of who the annoying apprentice that Kira couldn't make friends with was

[bronze zephyr]

Oh Sinclair has attack weight nice

Sinclair being instantly overshadowed by Gregor in the comments section lmaooo

But it makes sense, I’m also physically incapable of being normal about Gregor

[faint pivot]

It's peam

[neat cedar]

i wonder if the hammer will inflict a ubique sinking

[bronze zephyr]

I’m excited for Sinclair uptie story

[neat cedar]

also

greg using two ego weps at the same time

is wild

[bronze zephyr]

Which gregors have arms that are normal, it’s not common to my memory

[neat cedar]

none

[faint pivot]

Ngl dual wielding is tempered to me after realizing that [LobCorp Middle Layer Suppression] ||Gebura does that with 6 different EGO weapons ALONGSIDE her personal EGO||

[ebon forge]

firefist, non?

[neat cedar]

they're typixally missing or a prosthetic

[faint pivot]

Allegory

[neat cedar]

does he have a normal arm?

[faint pivot]

And Lamp Greg seemingly has the Lantern EGO gift for a prosthetic

[neat cedar]

interesting

[faint pivot]

Hmm it's unclear actually, but I kinda assumed his peg leg was his only prosthetic

Left is ungloved

[ebon forge]

double WAW ego gear...

[faint pivot]

Shi Greg notes that his replacement arm was surprisingly human but well, he's a Shi Heishou, their arms are weapons

[neat cedar]

mhmm

[faint pivot]

Pal seemingly has an arm cannon, arm included, as his left

[ebon forge]

also

[neat cedar]

but ye considering the imlortamce of greg's arm

i always assume.that he gets some.kind of prosthetic

in other mirror worlds

[ebon forge]

i thought that was a like, armor piece

[neat cedar]

because it's a very common theme that it's missing to some degree

[faint pivot]

I feel like

[Canto 9 part 3] With Gregsy's ||real purpose being spelled out as a living weapon, I feel like his arm isn't meant to simply be transformed, but also weaponized||

[tiny cave]

also why does straight hair sinclair look like don when he's standing still

[faint pivot]

Now Allegory makes me squint at this idea since ||there, he avoids using that arm to inflict violence, but I feel like Walp IDs are exceptional in general anyway||

[tiny cave]

insert HRT meme here i guess

[ebon forge]

hrt

[faint pivot]

[Canto 9 part 3] What's our bets on ||Jamila's survival rate|| folks? She was kinda just...||let be by Rien with a wound about as bad as Zilu's||

Ack

People calling Rien the White Noise 😭

[ebon forge]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qr0p1m/renclair_bochishiraita/

TWENTY FUCKING MINUTES

[atomic steeple]

Nervous system: Wait a goddamn minute...

[atomic steeple]

Shirou nods in respect at this (Heaven's Feel ||He castrates hercules with his own weapon and technique, while striking multiple vital points||)

[atomic steeple]

Yeah. Gregor is well known for his sheer stubborn defiance, such as refusing to strike the apple for years. Plus he's a survivor

[atomic steeple]

He represses a lot, I think.
He just doesn't face his depression. He goes day to day, stagnant. His ego still requires a bit of gloom to activate, to bring out this power from his soul he needs the gloom. It is a part of him, but one he avoids

[warm scarab]

Psst, Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll (@glad fable), you have been pinged by @atomic steeple.

[karmic escarp]

mutual on bsky was (rightfully) mocking renclair's fuckass bob in a qrt to the ID preview and i was about to join her when the preview vid started playing and flashbanged me with the most beautiful gregor ive ever laid eyes on and i started hyperventilating (very bad considering im already sick and lightheaded)

[atomic steeple]

Ubik intervallo

[atomic steeple]

Trans metamorphosis

[vagrant dove]

It's peam

[ebon forge]

400 for gregor alr

now for skincare

next... bl faust?

or bl don

[tiny cave]

bl faust is vastly overshadowed these days unless you're trying to build full bl

bl don still has use for support passive

even if, realistically, you won't bench index don on poise

[ebon forge]

i just want to use bl fau for the faucord

[vagrant dove]

These artists have like

An actual t-corp contract

What the hell

[tiny cave]

oh if you're just trying to fill your company with faust ids then i approve

make sure to ut4 and level 60 all of them

[ebon forge]

will try

just very expensive

[tiny cave]

yeah i feel ya

i'm missing 3 fau ids as well

bl, index and shi

[ebon forge]

lots of leveling to do

LOTS

[tiny cave]

the gacha gifted me with all the yi sang and skincare ids

it tells me i have a type apparently

[ebon forge]

this is like, 200 exps i think

low on funds lmao

[vagrant dove]

I have a lot of gregor ids, I think the game might be trying to tell me things

[ebon forge]

not that many IDs missing tho

barely any EGO tho

prolly gonna get these three next

[tiny cave]

lemme see what i'm missing

[ebon forge]

and prolly these

[vagrant dove]

I'm also missing quite a few egos

[ebon forge]

or both christmas nightmares

[vagrant dove]

At least the walpurgis fund is going well

[ebon forge]

might get molar 🤮 sang to complete the sang yi company

[tiny cave]

yeah still missing a lot of ego here as well but not too many good ones

[ebon forge]

so

in about 1 year

i should have every ID

[tiny cave]

ye same here

then there's the pain of UT4 and levelling them all

[ebon forge]

yepppppppppppp

and then EGO is 10x worse of a grind

and EXP is perpetual

the day of level 65 will be HELLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[tiny cave]

its like

tuned isn't it

[ebon forge]

tuned?

[tiny cave]

so the current xp lux is always 10x to get from 1 to max level

[ebon forge]

ah prolly

[bronze zephyr]

Oh really? Interesting ok

[worthy haven]

Huh I am missing way less then i thought. neat!

[ebon forge]

ok good lord chat

thank you all for having media literacy

THANK YOU

[tiny cave]

we have media literacy?

[ebon forge]

dude i met someone who though final fantasy has 0 politics to it

and like, couldnt recognize like, 80% of games have at least some commentary to it

[tiny cave]

ff7 is very unpolitical, certainly nothing about giant megacorporations sucking the planet dry for profit, while also exploiting an underclass of people who live in slums

[ebon forge]

lmao

but yeah idfk how tf someone doesnt realize politics is like, inherent to life

any large enough community will need to make communal rules to ensure function, etc

and that means politics

[stoic fjord]

I think they're having an absolute fucking blast, they love annihilating opponents and fighting, doesn't matter how strong or weak, they just want as much bloodshed as possible

They love that shit, iirc in one of You Heathcliff's voicelines he complains about missing the Night in the Backstreets

[vagrant dove]

Final Fantasy has- 0 politics?

Final Fantasy?

What

What is he smoking

[ebon forge]

ikr

[tiny cave]

I guess if you go back to the really old games like I or III maybe

III is more philosophical than political

[vagrant dove]

The one most people would be familiar with is VII though

And there you are literally fighting an evil polluting corporation

[tiny cave]

I - Generic heroes beat up chaos story, iirc there’s some minor politics regarding the lack of social mobility due to a birthright based hierarchy

II - You fight the emperor who wants to subjugate everything

III - More a philosophical tale on what it means to live, I think, considering the main antagonist is salty that his mentor gave him the ability to live a normal life

IV - Haven’t played it

V - Haven’t played it

VI - Is about how rapid technological progress is at odds with nature, and the wanton destruction that war can cause to the environment

VII - obvious

VIII - Haven’t played it

IX - Haven’t played it but isn’t this about stagnation or something

X - Is about how those in power will hold onto their power and grip on the world rather than passing the torch if allowed

[vagrant dove]

Assuming they played it, did they miss the obvious allegory of draining the world dry (of life/resources), mirroring what our corporations are doing

[tiny cave]

Everything past X, except XIII, I also haven’t played

And XIII I could not tell you what the story was trying to convey if you pointed a gun to my head

[bronze zephyr]

I’ve played a bit of XIV and thst one also has a colonial empire so

[vagrant dove]

Although tbf I have also had people say that Limbus doesn't critique capitalism

So

[bronze zephyr]

That’s

Insane

[vagrant dove]

You know

It's the "not real capitalism" argument

[bronze zephyr]

Have they not heard of what a metaphor is

[tiny cave]

Yeah but it’s XIV so the colonial empire is full of hot women and catgirls, which automatically makes them not evil

[bronze zephyr]

Damn

[atomic steeple]

Also ishgard

With the corrupt church

The social classes

[vagrant dove]

Which like, notwithstanding the uh, earlier cantos, how do you maintain that opinion after Canto 4

[atomic steeple]

The job quests there involve some rebellion

Astrologian is a bit heretic

Machinist is about arming the underclass

[vagrant dove]

Like maybe 1-3 weren't explicit enough somehow but Canto 4 is all about how fucked K Corp is

[bronze zephyr]

Yeah canto 4 is like the most anti capitalism canto other than Maybe 8

[atomic steeple]

Dark knight started from a rebellion against the church and now they're renegades protecting people

[vagrant dove]

And how the capitalist system exploits people and their intellectual output*+ how it warps people's morality to create someone like Dongrang, a ruthless office politicker

[bronze zephyr]

Sigh

[vagrant dove]

I do not get it personally

[atomic steeple]

The system we are in incentivises lies abd self delusion

The AI craze is snake oil based on that

[eternal gull]

playing devils advocate here

[stoic fjord]

It critiques South Korea aiui, which you cannot do without critiquing capitalism

[eternal gull]

it may not be "anti capitalist" as its more anti exploitationist

-# insert communist manifesto quote about capitalism requiring a component of exploitationist colonialism here

[vagrant dove]

i think the argument I've seen people make is that south korea isn't real capitalism because of the chaebols, based on the whole idealized notion of the "free market"

which is stupid

[stoic fjord]

The market is about as free as a bird in a cage i think

[gentle mulch]

guhhhh i need these IDs

[stoic fjord]

I think it's really funny that this is the surprise sinking season rn

[gentle mulch]

imagine renclair is sinking

wait fuuuuuuck

Meursaults canto is the burn season because 🌞

throws my hat down and stomps on ot

[stoic fjord]

I wonder what Outis and Faust will have

We don't really have a status to associate with them

[stoic fjord]

SINKING POISE!!! A THIRD 000 SINKING POISE!!!

[gentle mulch]

sinking!!!!!

[stoic fjord]

SINKING DOESN'T NEED MORE!!!!

[gentle mulch]

SINKING!!!!

[stoic fjord]

STOOOOOPPPPP

[gentle mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/o-brother-where-art-thou-cow-cotton-house-barn-flood-gif-22301057

[atomic steeple]

I'd say it's burn/sinking

[stoic fjord]

Dude we actually have so much fucking sinking we didn't need this

[stoic fjord]

Like. Idk it's like.

Sinking was probably up there in terms of teams doing well

[gentle mulch]

fuck charge seasons

[stoic fjord]

Lowk

[gentle mulch]

sinking 2 comes first

[stoic fjord]

Faust Charge season

[stoic fjord]

Like, yeah, 2 walp IDs

But also it's only 2 and having even just one of them fucks things up

[gentle mulch]

one walp id and a mirrordungeonbait

[stoic fjord]

What

[gentle mulch]

kodya/madonka

[stoic fjord]

Oh

I was thinking of SL yi sang

[gentle mulch]

well shit that makes it 3

[stoic fjord]

No one runs madonka on sinking

[gentle mulch]

😭 SINKING IS SO SO GREEDY

[stoic fjord]

Like be fucking for real no one has done that shit legitimately

You run KoDya and SL Sang and you don't need any more walp shit unless you really wanna go hard into sinking with SL Gregor n shit

[atomic steeple]

That's why I bet on bad end ryoshu being burn pouse sinking

[stoic fjord]

Madonka is charge

[gentle mulch]

KJH releasing another dual status ID who applies potency only and in increments of 1

madonka issss chargerupturesinking i believe

[atomic steeple]

Madonka is fake sinking
Kodya is fake charge

[gentle mulch]

yeah

one more rupture sinking ID and I can swap out sunshower

[stoic fjord]

KoDya is fake charge until you hit MD

Where anyone can be a real member of a status

Unless they don't have a status

[tiny cave]

kodya is as real charge as season 1 w corp ids

she just always has her coin power conditional on

[stoic fjord]

Iirc her charge literally does nothing besides a damage boost?

And possibly more sinking?

[tiny cave]

iirc it gives base power

[atomic steeple]

Her charge sucks up charge gain from the team because she always counts as having the keast charge

[tiny cave]

i didn't read her kit, too much text

just press defense then winrate

but yes she does get base power for charge consumed

up to 4 on s3

[atomic steeple]

So kodya interferes with charge teams

[tiny cave]

which is basically like +4 coin power because she's a negative id

[gentle mulch]

once again charge is never beating the 7 coworkers allegations

[stoic fjord]

I should try a KoDya solo again

[atomic steeple]

I don't quite understand the purpose of reverse skill units in the game

[gentle mulch]

have something to do when you're in the negativea

if lordlu goes into the negatives he just explodes and dies whenever any clash happens in his general area

[worthy haven]

renclair is prob pure poise

which lesgo

[gentle mulch]

ID KIT REVEAL:
lmmaoooo you're never getting your burn season

[worthy haven]

once indexsang drops i cna go full sinking poise with full stop

[worthy haven]

hohenheim do be burn sinking tho

[gentle mulch]

he is not replacing firefist lmao

[worthy haven]

that do be t rue

unless we get more burn sinking which is fairly possible!

[gentle mulch]

unless we get hybrid ID sweep yeah

this may be the Sinking with a side of Burn Season

[worthy haven]

both of the egos do be indicating that a lil

[tiny cave]

what negative coin ids?

[worthy haven]

well yisangs one*

[gentle mulch]

we have to wait until what

like april to see the bad end?

or march

[worthy haven]

i would imagine its prob gonna come out faster then lord hingler did cause he was delayed due to the team shenigans if i remember correctly

[atomic steeple]

In general
Player and enemy side

[worthy haven]

i personally would swap out the sinking with bleed mainly due to how ||muga|| had so much fucking bleed and also her season ego is burn bleed poise

[gentle mulch]

ryoshu also notably doesn't have a sinking ID iirc

oh god

it's going to be a sinking season

[uneven canopy]

https://youtu.be/9M3UCfuZgHM

[tiny cave]

enemy side makes it easier to clash against them once your san goes up, but harder at low san

it also makes it so they're more likely to win a clash, but when they do they do less damage as they'll usually have less coins remaining

it's actually healthier than normal design IMO

[gentle mulch]

i would like for them to experiment more with like

[tiny cave]

player side it's mostly just a weird gimmick i think

[gentle mulch]

guiding player clashes with a mix of pos/neg sanity enemies

[tiny cave]

neg coins do way more damage and more consistently win clashes

in return they have teambuilding and support restrictions

NClair had to be babied constantly so he didn't corrode, Lantern Yisang is well designed

potential man exists

and then they just threw away the entire having to manage their sanity gimmick with the magical girls

[gentle mulch]

i think they're also meant to be like

IDs that have something to do if you corrode into them or get sunk, etc

even if their uh

[tiny cave]

neg coin ids are usually pretty terrible against sinking because they'll corrode instantly

[gentle mulch]

negative side vastly outshines the pos side

[tiny cave]

as they lose SP on their base attacks

they are better post-corrosion though

as you can just use another ego to instantly nuke their sp down to -20 or whatever

[gentle mulch]

yeah

[worthy haven]

and you didnt even need that for kodya

[tiny cave]

yeah Rime Shank's corrosion targeting is very generous

so it doesn't even matter if she corrodes

"targets the unit with the most hp" almost always gonna be the boss

[vagrant dove]

could say i'm getting a sinking feeling about this season

I'm sorry

[tiny cave]

season 4 2

[atomic steeple]

I think lack of bleed wouldn't hurt compatibility, so that's why it could be replaced with sinking

[atomic steeple]

If ryoshu's team is sinking, I will build sinking

Plus, this canto has a lot of human enemies whose clashing you need to manage

And
Oh
This season has had a bit of a bonus damage theme, such as ryoshu's seasonal stacking status due to damage, middle ish having bonus damage
Sinking uses bonus damage to make up for the lack of inherent damage to the status against sanity enemies

[cloud wadi]

i like that the joke of Ren being trained wrong as a joke is probably true

he uses mostly iaido techniques

WITH AN ODACHI

and the only reason why pinkie nursefather does it is to ||stabilize her temporal entanglement||

which he doesn't have to worry about

he doesn't need to do any of this

[vagrant dove]

Wild hunt Ryoshu as the bad end id, trust /j

[atomic steeple]

Sinking rules limbus company, huh

[vagrant dove]

I need to make a "your greed is hurting the economy" meme with like

Bleed and Sinking or smth lmao

[gentle mulch]

waiiit the parallels

||"I'm going to save you through methods that work because of who I am and not considering how it'll affect you"
"I'm going to train you through methods that work because of what has afflicted me and not considering how it'll shape you"||

[vagrant dove]

Holy shit

Another thing to put on my conspiracy limbus analysis board

I love this canto