#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.
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I FUCKING HATE ||HERMES||
||RIEN COULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD FATHER||
...yes, i know he indulged in ||prescripts||
And the whole thing about his mang being gratefulness
But
But
...||it seems you've forgotten to unfreeze me, sweetheart.||
I mean to be far that's what Hermes wanted
its not the worst spoiler in the world
REALEST SHIT I EVER READ
FUCK ||HERMES||
ALL MY HOMIES HATE ||HERMES||
paired with this and wcliff
Ah, yes
The ever revolving Karma, tranquility and earthly desires keeping you bound on the bloodthirsty, drunken pal who has serious issues not going on a murder spree when seeing an unarmed civilian
Sharding him next
I need a buff man in an exosuit to fight for me
You can’t stagger Wcliff though
And Roostercliff has Death Defiance as well as multiple staggers
Eh I guess you just can’t double-dip on Heathcliff Invulnerability
Gotta pick one synergy lol
LCA deploy a true for this user
i WILL find a way to stagger this mf
What do poise teams look like nowaday now that we have the index IDs?
Full Stops and hong lord
Uhh 😅
bambookim?
He's not that great without the other BLs
fair
I guess butler ryoshu
Probably Maid Ryoshu
no yeah you need a thoricalgia holder
Or drifting blade Ryoshu if you like that kind of thing
But she doesn't make pride as well as Maidshu so
the answer is maost actaully
Yeh
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) bladeshu probably suboptimal
Bladeshu is more for prupture tbh
thing is, that poise generally wants to pick a damage type
and i think BL is still there for slash?
a lot of the poise guides are outdated
and i would assume ryoshu's capstone is poise
Pure poise is in a halfassed state rn
so prepare for poise to get heishou'd
That was what BL was tbh 😅
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) so prepare for poise to get heishou'd
Sinking poise I think
Blade lineage Ryoshu when
It isn't 😅
It isn’t YET
She already has a kurokumo ID so 🤷♀️
but yeah, poise teams generally want to pick a damage type, slash or pierce
and BL is still on top for slash poise
(i think?)
arent the fullstop duo still real good
ngl I've kinda been ignoring damage type ego gifts, but I also haven't gone to floor 15 yet
Yeah but the core of piece poise is the Pequod IDs
The full stops are basically an independent duo, they don’t need much team synergy or anything to do their shit
well, the notable thing about fullstop is that they do pierce fragility
i would be cautious about investing into poise rn, i would think that capstone ryoshu is gonna be mainly poise
My intuition is that we’ll get a Ryoshu seasonal ID that is designed for compatibility with some combination of Burn, Poise, and Sinking for sure, but which ones is kinda unclear beyond the Index IDs and the suggestion of Rien Sang being out there
Our main team is poise so 🤷♀️
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) i would be cautious about investing into poise rn, i would think that capstone ryoshu is gonna be ma…
what is it rn
If your main team is Poise get the Index IDs for sure
My guess is burn bleed poise cuz that matches every finger
Index Don is busted
the index ids are good damage but they ramp up over like 4 turns or more
No?
The stuff we'd be investing in right now are Index Faust and Ryoshu Thora
If you’re doing it right they fully unlock on turn 3
Index Don gets Turn 2 ego
oh sorry
But also
i have been told index don struggles slightly to maintin poise
Unlocking is kind of a weird rampup
She does
but yeah you want both thoricalgias regardless
and index faust is probably good pickup since BL faust (on her own) isnt great and shu faust sucks
We'll post it after we finish killing santa
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) what is it rn
Index Faust is the best poise Faust yeah
Shi Fau doesn’t suck
She has crazy clashing numbers
But her team kinda doesn’t exist yet
I’m awaiting the Shi faction’s resurrection
Shi Faust is profoundly mid tbh
im sure BL faust is better if you have/are using the bone claimer but yeah
Eeehhh BL team is weird
She's not bad but she isn't particularly good either
BL Faust’s vibes are way better than her as a unit alas
Mentorsault can make her like
Playable
But she still won’t be an all star unit
Her best trait by a long shot is her Blade Lineage faction tag lul
Which BL units are unsalvagable again, Sinclair and Outis?
Not even mentorsault could save them
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) We'll post it after we finish killing santa 📎
I love Fullstop duo sooo much
tbh pretty good
And it’s die and activate In Memoriam
Kurokumo team at least has two units that are good
Poise isn’t a real keyword to me jdjdjjsjs
(Some day we'll bother to get a good Sinclair ID, some day)
index faust would be a GREAT pickup and yeah get the thoricalgias if you dont have them
LMAO
cinq sinclair is great for pierce poise
sinclair ablina would be HILARIOUS
i just wanna know how the new index ids are moving for bleed
? Do you mean ring
if the callisto id buffs/synergizes with not just albina the KK duo might end up unseated
God, please, Ring IDs save fiendless bleed
Yeah Callisto and Albina will replace KK Duo in my bloodfiend team
yeah
Very likely
what im saying is it will be: manger don, prince and princess, and then callsito, albina, ringsang
and a flex slot, probably defaulting to priest gregor if the rest of the team's bloodfeast gen isnt amazing
I like running all 5 bloodfiends but I’m also a weirdo
LMAO
Ugh every day I look at rupture and go
Heishouslop…..
Callistosault popping the fuck off because he has fellow Ring members on team
priest gregor isnt integral on the currentb bleed team imo
I want Callisto hong lu
if callsito is mersault it would be TOUGH to unseat priest sault
Yeah Callisto Meur would be competing w Prince
callisto hong lu would be fitting
Trve….
but yeah GOD kjh please give sinclair a real bleed unit
Idc who gets the thumb and pinky IDs as much, Ryoshu is likely getting Dihui tho?
middle sinclair does NOT count
ALBINAAAAAA ID PLZ PM
well, ryoshu is getting her bad end id
i assume were getting all the nursefathers and apprentices
It would be cool if other skills got Pierce and Slash equivalents to the Middle in Blunt
Ryoshu will absolutely be getting some Tiansha Star of the Pinky shit
We’re not letting that one slide
We’re def getting all the apprentices, nursefathers I’m sorta hesitating about
Yea
it could be ||purple coins||
We haven’t gotten a single Nursefather yet and I’m holding my breath on whether or not we get any tbh
we have confirmed that ||yi sang is rien and outis is matthtias||
Yeah, ||ex sottocapo, ex great brother, ex maestro, is really strong||
Yeah, it doesnt fullyyyy confirm IDs but
It’s there
We've had people be mentioned in IDs before that don't get their own IDs from that universe, so it's not a sure thing
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) we have confirmed that ||yi sang is rien and outis is matthtias||
i would assume that ryoshu's bad end id is ||just her never escaping the house and using arashiki unsheathed||
^
oh fair
didnt know that
but we're 100% getting an albina id
ye
and im curious who it is and how well it will synergize with ringsang
Sinclair or Hong Lu want bleed IDs, maybe Faust though she just got Index
it may be core 3 blood fiends, kk duo, ringsang and albina
thow in nshu if you want aoe
barber outis is there
and priest gregor is there
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I like barber Outis
Albina and Lucio IDs are basically confirmed atp
heath lucio or gregor lucio
Mhm
that is the question
||Black hole with a burning accretion disc, inhaling everything to sink forever||
a2n i love how the fuckass power system works in pjm because moses knowing about a supposed argos unit could be from
- direct access to outis' files
- big Ds told her
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BFnyFDQMek
- my most auraful old lady whom i adore peered into my most favoritest old lady whom i also adore's distortion and just said some shit and it worked for intel-gathering
Humpty Dumpty was always there. Always.
Puss In Boots (2011)
I can't say the super bad words anymore apparently but I don't want this damn helling video marked as kids so curse in the comments please if it helps idk. #pussinboots #thelastwish
I should read DD
it's very likely that the next banner is a double
Good
She will likely match the House if spiders, doing burn sinking poise and bonus damage stuff
outis and rodion banner pleaaaase
Sinclair Albina KJH this is my one wish
it's likely going to be ren/lucio and albina...
absolute best case scenario for albina id is sinclair
If you complete the suppression (as in return to the menu after day end) then you can memrep and retain progress
since kk lu has a good bench passive
do the Luciocliff-Valendion banner it would be so funny
LOL
just ragebaiting atp
like actual ragebaiting
hi im kjh
all your ships are wrong
goodbye
||Not part of, and not Ben, but yeah, the Archive is Hokma's thing||
Valencina gregor
I’m a rare Outis x Ishmael truther so the middle uptie story hurt me specifically
-# @ssmr_rolling
ITS NOT FAIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
WE SHOULD HAVE HAD HER AS A PERMANENT SIDE CHARACTER
🗣️ speak the truth which will shape the world 🔥
yeah we already have that fate restored
I want Ishmael to have screentime in canto 11 KJH, make it happen
I guess I know why the Library allows running
Roleplay
ur brain is so big
Ran and Chen
ye
iirc both major examples are actually Sinclair?
Fullstop Sinclair and Wuthering Heights Butler Sinclair
hohenHIM really falling back on that lobcorp experience
I love how everyone thinks Callisto’s art is mediocre at best
I think he drinks up criticism but doesn't change anything
he hasn't gotten any for years
also holy shit the new yisang ego is so fucking cool
I love it. Can't spell it
Hes been posting to his own discord server for years and nobody has left a single comment
if the albina id is sinclair its an INSTANT shut up and take my lunacy for me
the ring leaves him on read
He did get some from ryoshu
I got the vibe he just wants the attention. Everything about him felt like a performance of sophistication and engagement
yeah he wants to have a gallery people come and visit
like the other maestros
unfortunately for him he's a) in the spider's house and b) washed in terms of art
The maestro most nakedly fake
His low sanity passive is something like “outdated art” right?
yeah
outmoded art
same with albina
(pertinent bc he's basically ended up making her a copy of him(
Living swords are so passé these days
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) same with albina
He prints out the same stuff nonstop, then does a performance of discussing art
But nothing changes. It's just circles
Albina outright damaged her own mind
If the nursefathers embody the Fingers' uncomfortable hypocrisies, he's the illusion of depth, creativity and communication
what day of the week is ID teasers?
isn't it usually wednesday?
Are we getting an ID this week?
The weird thing about the nurse fathers as the embodiments of the fingers’ hypocrisy is that they were all thrown out of their fingers for doing these things
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) If the nursefathers embody the Fingers' uncomfortable hypocrisies, he's the illusion of depth, creat…
They're basically the dirty little secrets swept under the rug
(In this case, sent to the Spider's House)
Mmm
1/29 will probably be a no banner maintenance but we'll probably get teasers for the next banner which, if it's on the same pattern as last season, will be a double
Moses comments the middle is like matthias, and verg also calls out the thumb
My assumption is Nursefather + Apprentice duo but idk
In my view, the theme of strands and strings in part manifests by the nursefathers being unwanted connections, burdens
they're exiled rather than outright killed because what they did is too close to home
imo
maybe Rien Sang and MatthiOutis
the people judging them were like "damn if I punish them for this I'm also cooked"
Thus, at the end ||ryoshu would be a pit to erase all their shames||
because fundamentally all of the fingers? come down to might makes right
Cause the fingers place a strong emphasis on their ideals and adherence to their systems based on them
there are probably dozens of ring maestros who have been stuck in an artistic rut for years, but they're just a little bit too strong to push out
Plus better at masking it
and so their subordinates pretend that their latest expo is great
Conversely, probably tons of aspirant members who didn't make the "right" art according to the arbitary standards of those above them
yep
Reminder, verg had no art background and roasted a maestro into ultra despair and being subsumed by an abnormality
As soon as the tables turned, his fragile psyche started to crumble
the reason the nursefathers are embarrassing is because they're right there showing that all the airs and pomp are just covering up that they're nasty hierarchical criminal institutions ruled by the ability to enact violence on weaker people.
Even the index can be gamed, probably
What’re the highest ranks for each finger again, sottocapo, great sibling, maestro, proxy/messenger/weaver?? index is weird
And the pinky is just there
Vergilius’s skills are all wrath because he is a fucking ragebaiter
Imagine ragebaiting someone so hard they fucking distort
In a roundabout way I think the index would be the gods of the city themselves
Mm right
Wrong reply but I think you know what do
None seen on screen yet
Mhm
he really seemed to enjoy pushing Valencina's buttons
i think that's the happiest hes been when he's not interacting with Charon
Technically capo Dei capi for the thumb
God of the Prescript according to InDon's UT story
Rank is God, Proxy, and Proselyte, with Messengers flipping between the 3 roles depending on their prescript
Or other's, I guess, since I'm thinking of that failed Yan copy
Yan copy?
Thinking on how ryoshu and yi sang get along in some mirror worlds
Both experienced isolation under the power of another
And ryoshu ||upon losing her thread, entered a spiral to erase her past and her memories, like yi sang himself may do at times||
No wonder they got the same ego in the pass
InFau's UT story features ||a Messenger executed by her (a proselyte) for following their prescript to the letter: "Fake your prescripts". Faust follows up with a sentiment similar to what Hohenheim says to Callisto after hitting him with Diffraction, but before that she says "sometimes disobeying a Prescript is to follow its will". I brushed this off as "ah it's just referring to the Index' omniscience" before|| canto 9 part 3 ||but seeing how Rien is explicitly a Roland copy that started budding before bro even became a proper Fixer, I'm guessing this was another failed attempt at greatness by the Prescript||
Mmmmm
Dante choosing the Sinner teams for each Nursefather for maximum thematic relevance:
<You don't understand, Vergilius. The hype moments and aura will only work if there's themes behind them.>
"Dantehh, what the fuck are you talking about?"
I think if I was an index member and told "sometimes you have to disobey the prescripts" I'd crash out
what do you MEAN i have to intentionally disobey my god at my own discretion to stay faithful
I feel like that was probably the Flow
I mean probably but its really funny to imagine
ok funniest complaint ever is someone complaining that val's sword stances fucking suck
wait lol?
lmao it was about lucio
and they complained that the stances would break your spine
and the sword crossing doesnt work well
I feel like we have other more pressing concerns regarding the fighting styles of people in the City
such as the fucking rocket propelled explosion blade
lol
I know this probably isn't what she's talking about here, but I choose to believe there is a workshop dedicated to making fixer funko pops
I imagine they're moreso kind of generic as figures and not particularly dynamic in pose or elements
it's funko clues
in a place such as the City
one must imagine...
Funko pops lay festering there, too
my dear sinner outis who loves me so much and will not stab me in the back ever :) (bonus at the end)
you know, she doesnt make the Outis Face that much when referring to the manager
I mean the city is a capitalist dystopia, funko pops evolve in those like crabs
there are funko walls you could not imagine in there
Remnants of an Old F Corp or something
kjh
please delay the nexto canto 3 years to solely develop downtime content for the masses
thank you
Me playing canto 50 in like, 2040
But yeah a lot of the content el director talked about on stream seems fairly fun
Mirror dungeons do get a bit old after a while
they doooo
i either need something engaging or flat out automatic and no in between
beautiful canto 9 mix
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03-BxEDjArI||
SPOILERS WARNING DO NOT WATCH IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED CANTO 9.
Such Astounding Inspiration Keeping All Invested
Here's the canto 9 mix. I didn't expect a "Fly My Wings" type of song, I was expecting the 9-49 battle theme to be the Mili song but SAIKAI is pretty good too.
And yes it's a mixture of mostly SAIKAI, Muga (how I call the 9-49 OS...
Used an uptie module on N Corp Ryoshu, gonna do a normal MD and see how I like her
...well I guess this is one use for Shi Faust's defend, easy source of lust resonance
To be fair the fact that she gigantically overextends the final blow in attacks that are supposed to be sure-kill sword techniques is kinda thematic
Nah, people just like to show off their knowledge of martial arts and related skills when it comes up
yeah she did have an extended sequence of describing in detail how much she enjoys slowly killing people so the final blow thing is pretty in character
i imagine the first augment you get after being competent enough to aura farm is like a Lock-In liver system that processes alcohol like crazy but doesnt inhibit combat ability
the fundamental problem with lucio is that his style is described as a dueling style for single opponents and for that he just straight up has the wrong kind of sword
valentina's gunblade is pretty close to correct but she uses it like a moron
thats why she got booted in 3 days
mfw im training a textbook for ryoshu and i dont even make him use the same type of sword as her
also: dueling style for single opponents getting jumped by 3 sinners
they did lucio so dirty
And a ||color||
It's like why Fell Bullet Heathcliff is a Teth rather than a He
It reflects the story
whar
ngl gunblade fighting is super interesting
Heath's gets downgraded cause he ain't letting go
Try as he might, that pendant still means something to him
i want to learn HEMA to make a proper gunblade style
was lucio meant to inherit val's techniques? her style is different from his
i think
lucio is learning ryoshu's version i think
Val's use reflects where she can relax thanks to her Relic
PMoon decided to make it even more interesting by making the gun double as a thruster
Curious about how butterfly of entangled lives will be like
The ego seems to be about destroying history abd ties, the abnormality looks like a fetus inside a sphere
ok so the standard stance for thruster types would almost certainly be a pflug or the like
a guard that can turn into a thrust is like, obvious asf
i bet lei heng really likes the fools guard
weapons that can suddenly, explosively swing or thrust give you a huge advantage in being able to attack from positions where you wouldn't normally be able to, no?
correct
also
thinner weapons like valencina's might not be ideal
since you could use a greatsword like a rapier, really
i imagine the blowback from how the rapier is built would just
burn your hands lmao
or really heat up your armor if you used prot on it
the momentum though
mmm
you wouldn't be able to stop a rocket-accelerated greatsword without ripping your back to pieces
yeah
but lei heng uses this shit
fuuuuuck
Lei Heng is also hench as hell
i think the trigger design fucking sucks though
and presumably trained to specifically use this weapon, as well as pretty distinctly going for swings where he doesn't have to arrest the blade's motion
it's implied lei heng just had it reforged to blend in with the thumb too so practicality may not be the priority here
I mean augmentation surgeries exist
Aeng Du blew both of her arms off trying to use a gimmicky sword
also you have to account for the wuxia association
no yeah this is re: what would a style using these weapons look like and would a huge slab of sword make more sense than a thin rapier
lei heng uses a dao, which is a brutish swinging weapon for commoners and barbarians
...her Really Cool Trick is more than a little gimmicky to pull off
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Used an uptie module on N Corp Ryoshu, gonna do a normal MD and see how I like her 📎
so he gets to Just Swang That Thang
i was thinking the goal would be that instead of actually using it for true nuclear swing, it'd be more like, "start from 0" kinda
okay so if you want to set it up from standstill what you do is you use a 3+ Lustres EGO Awe, Contempt
there are 4 chinese "kings of weapons" and all but one of them are COMMON POOR PEOPLE GARBAGGE
This is like a stereotypical Korean executioner
it's very funny
Though she does help damage whoever N Sang is attacking even if she can't get it off, so that's nice I guess
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) ...her Really Cool Trick is more than a little gimmicky to pull off 📎
like, to allow for suddenly striking someone with 0 momentum from a sudden position

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) okay so if you want to set it up from standstill what you do is you use a 3+ Lustres EGO Awe, Contem…
but if you can't pull that off all you gotta do is set up the win condition with applying Gaze normally, then use her defense skill when N Sang has 13+ Poise potency and you're set
also like, seriously, thumb style is fucking insane and i love it
the jian [straight sword,] the dao [curved blade,] the qiang [spear,] and the gun [staff]
the people's culturally relevant/popular weapon 😌
as long as you consistently have 2+ Lust res, Awe Contempt Ryoshu applies 2 Gaze on each attack, which you need to have or otherwise you're never getting to 7 applied across all enemies basically
I guess the main issue is that everything is usually already dead by the time that happens 
Dang Mirror Dungeons
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) but if you can't pull that off all you gotta do is set up the win condition with applying Gaze norma…
once you're there you can either cash out with Cascading Gaze of Awe Underneath Contempt, or use the combo if Yi Sang is ready with his skill 3 and enough Poise stacked (and 7 Torn Memory)
i wish MD had a secondary battlepass that gave you tickets on EX and worked with the normal bp
instead of yk
max 100
Podao
you can also do the silly by using the Fell Bullet EGO to skip straight to max Torn Memory on Yi Sang, but that requires a pretty high Pride resonance and also to shoot one of your allies
📝 👀
meanwhile in the typical way the jian is the least war-relevant of the 4
Jian is the Chinese longsword right
yes
So basically an officer’s sword haha
yep
If it actually sees battle something already has gone awry etc etc
katana type beat huh
all 4 of them have titles too
spear is The King
Staff is The Grandfather
Saber is The General
and Sword is The Gentleman
Wonder why the crossbow didn’t make this list
I guess it’s for martial arts but still
Hrm
Are arrows allowed to pierce steel
tbf whatever's cheap and effective is probably gonna outperform any gimmicky show piece any day of the week
N Sang also needs 7 Torn Memory
Anyways in Korea
It was customary to bribe the executioner if you were facing execution
Otherwise they would just evicerate you as they killed you
Painless death
dang
purbl
purpl
purpl
I do be also deciiding if i wanna field r hongler or outis (and middlesault)
purple everytime do be funny
two days until next id teaserrrr
hongler's purple is only usable at 10 charge if you dont want to get your allies hit so
he got a purple def skill tho!
Will it be Lucio, albina or ren
albina 🙏 sin 🙏 clair 🙏
MD QoL suggestion:
what you figure
seeded runs with starlight cost based on how seeded
is gonna be the bad end id
yeah another dihui star to complete the themes of becoming ur parents
mm true
i hope
i hope the bad end id's uptie story is like
twice as long as hong lu's just for the sake of like
i want more araya moments
Mmm yeah fair
By the way I was thinking
It is fun how the sinner groups in Canto 9 are thematically tied
oh sick
How so
Outis, Mersault, and Ryoshu were all abused by organizations, by their faith in a group, and presumably have a specific relationship to motherhood.
Yi Sang, Hong Lu, and Don are all people who gave up what they want for the sake of their loved ones.
Faust, Ishmael, and Sinclaire were all shaped by someone into a tool for their purposes.
Gregor, Rodya, and Heath all dealt with physical abuse and comparison in their own ways etc etc
nice
Hohenheim bottom right
Heathcliff top left
No he’s bottom center imo
Yeah fair
Lucio is top left
Virgilius feels very top right
Heathcliff feels left top or bottom
Erlking is middle right
Found this gem
https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qm5n01/smoking_by_muexlku/
Love the joke in the comments about Heathcliff asking a cigarette in British slang and Ricardo adding him saying a slur to the Book of Vengeance
Heath has
A
Certain epxression
this is not the face of an uke, so to speak
artist draws yaoi
I won't lie Heath you tipped your hand when you said "borrow"
Bro doesn't even get a brow raise from Meursault he's just taken as he is lmao
#limbuscompany #림버스컴퍼니 #projectmoon
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이상 Cv. 연
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analysis by @aolinyijiang
that face
oooh one of these three aint like the others~ one of these three just aint the sameeeee
Gregor is a vicious guy at times
There's the final observation log for false apple
And when you hover him for a difficult check, he comments you must have been the time of commander to get fragged
There's also that comment way back in canto 1 about not wanting to give the old G-Corp manager ("that thing") one of his cigarettes
What’s interesting is every level 90 like this is either this or only one color
And then the level 85s or close-to-90s are less balanced
Rien is glut pride gloom sloth wrath
And one of his passives lust, but it’s the prescript
So he’s missing 2, envy/lust
Being someone of power in the City evidently requires your sins to either be generally well rounded or extremely specialized
Gloom only character would be interesting to see
Ok wait night drifter might’ve been cooking in his glory days
His sin spread is missing only gloom
Also interesting how he’s missing ONLY gloom
Project moon players are slowly gaining media literacy and I love it
I think for all the shit we talk about being illiterate, we might actually be on the upper end of the spectrum when it comes to literacy as far as gacha games are concerned. PJMoon’s storytelling style and themes, coupled with the literary inspirations, readily invite analysis and theorycrafting.
And shipping 
Ok seriously though we have yeah, smarter players
And then there’s the people who stripped us of balanced maost
Maost was a good thing.
we can be bees
She was a watershed moment for ID design. Now we can get truly crazy.
Can I just complain about how bad like, 90% of writing is
He’s been Him. He will continue to be Him.
Project Moon has Issues but they’re good enough to make me read a VN
Which is borderline impossible if it isn’t presented in a certain way
I’m reading tower of god rn and holy shit this thing sucks
They keep forgetting the protagonist can learn EVERHTHING
bot awful
Well in fairness (and in the interest of taking cheap shots for funsies) our competition is often lacking in the storytelling department.
but very slos
So he doesn’t use like, anything but 1 fucking skill to cancel everything
cough cough Hoyo games cough cough
I think it might be that he distracts himself with wandering and wine, since he's definitely a very melancholy character when you get down to it
limbus has a verynkey advantage
Like, I want to see you use the 19481994 combat styles you have
it's not writing for mass appeal
PLEASE
I can’t read this
*but very slow
Korean Manwha often have that issue in my experience
i also jist thing thr protag for Tower of god is
I think I’ve complained about this before but the amount of handholding the story takes you through in ZZZ (which I still love btw!) is just insane. Even moreso considering half the playerbase somehow still doesn’t understand what’s going on.
kinda dull
Outis says something similiar in Regular Checkup about the constant motion of being in the LCB giving no time to be dragged down by emotion (which uh. That's definitely foreshadowing, to say the least)
it suffers the issue of "every side character is more interesting thannthe protag"
Honestly I love Bam but yeah he’s kinda just wimpy
mood
understandable mood
less.wimpy and more
slow on the uptake
often deliberately
because new things scare him
how deep.in are you actually?
the funny part is that adding more Deathrite wouldn't even have meaningfully buffed Maost
since you have basically infinite stacks the moment you get going anyway
back to gacha writing, i def think ZZZ needs to have more confidence in it's storytelling
I am.reminded of a think inread a while ago
where the creator of Fate, Nasu, was talking shop with a newnwriter
i think fornstrange fake?
andntheybwere talking about basically ancharacter's stats
you really need to either increase how much stacks she need for S3-2, and/or reduce the stack gain on using Assist Defense
getting five stacks for basically free is why she can cycle it so efficiently
He was afraid of.making the character being called a mary sue and Nasu looked himmdead on and said "Don't let it get to you"
and honestly
pretty damn good advice for how simple it is
because someone is always
always
going to have some issue with your work if you post it online, valid or otherwise
genuinely just try and cook and you'll probably get a good audience who likes your stuff
like
PMoon, aiui, while still indie, is also lowkey raking in cash (to an extent)
and like
it's not exactly lowest common denominator stuff, y'know?
it helps that it's peak
ZZZ I think is probably one of the hoyo projects with the most potential, if they would just actually truly put their heart into it rather than being afraid, and I think there would be genuine returns on it as well
true
it is basically a more predatory vn
with flashing lights and yeah okay fine that grabs my attention enough to play a vn
Limbus or ZZZ?
lcb
ZZZ is porn based on what I saw
ah
i dont play zzz
Playing limbus
How wild?
yyyyeah probably to a decent extent
I'm lowkey just there to do 60 kb+m inputs per second in combat and treasure the tiny crumbs of what could be interpreted as yuri
this is pretty much all of my engagement with gacha games besides Limbus, to be honest
dopamine simulator through button mashing and dopamine simulator through tiny moments I can interpret as yuri
I tried Endfield but realized I hated gacha systems that weren’t arknights or limbus, aka super forgiving
Everything I see of endfield’s writing immediately put me off from the game
Especially knowing Arknights is like
Actually well written
And this specific writing is also kinda spitting in its face lol
Yeah the writing has to be good for me to like a game too
that's what I saw from discussion in gacha hell, yeah
like
super underwhelming in comparison to Arknights
i'm not goingnto say then1st chapter is a master piece
it has a funky start
but it's not really a spit in the face of aK at all
yeah I'm already getting somewhat burnt out on ZZZ
I do acknowledge endfield’s story is new but
oh wait thay was for magma
Games can have strong ch1s
they can
didn't they have an entire previous game to like. work with. they know how to write
And i think o lymlike
Does endfield have the same writers?
who knows
Belle x anything that walks:
I don't
once ur in free roam it feels betterz personally
which one is belle
ok so I don't appreciate being called out like this
female protag of ZZZ
ohhhh (clueless)
Yes, and they do
but alsoz different teams and staff and leaders
She’s hot
I mean just acting as colonizers against a group of, let’s be honest dumbass village burner the bandits who seemingly need the guiding light of civilization because they’re to stupid to self govern is, crazy coming from Arknights
I want her
i mean that's not the situation
fornstarters
Also, I love how everybody characterizes her as an absolute fucking FREAK
most promotional material includes both protags, because regardless of who you choose, both are present in the story
I don't know why but a common in-joke is that she has a stash of hentai tapes
I don't know why. but it is. for some reason.
like it is very clearly not the situation once younread what's being stated and don't let the vibes guide you
No that’s canon
If you do Zhu Yuan or whatever the police lady’s name is
On the topic of nursefathers and their sins- Callisto's a fun one
Gluttony- The drive to gather ingredients, to make more art. As such, universally seen in the skills that mention harvesting bits from people. Shared with Albina
Lust- Desire to propagate his art and to be validated, to have people understand and connect with him. Also a reflection of how he's very much propagated himself when teaching Albina.
Wrath- Minor, he only seems to take issue with vandalism of his art- probably doesn't like fighting in the gallery. Also shared with Albina!
Sloth- Minor, but I think it's very telling that his sloth skill is "Curate The Exhibition". He's unwilling to display his art in any new way, or to branch out into something new. He'll just keep displaying the same things again and again and again. Also shared with Albina.
Pride- there is some part of Callisto that feels genuine pride for Albina as an artist. His only pride skill even prioritises her, buffing on a hit. Albina notably doesn't have a pride skill, her Fascia related skills are Envy based, which could suggest either that she envies the Maestro's skill or Fascia on some level
she genuinely and unironically uses the word rizz in conversation once and I have never wanted to kill a fictional character more
She reviews some suspicious tapes with her
HUHHH???
You're being attacked by a fringe group of extremists tied to a semi-antagonostic faction that broke off from.your own some 60 years in the past
Her like, personal story thing
being lead by some new evil woman
I really like limbus sins
oh I know I just didn't expect it to be her
ok I thought you said you didn't play how do you know this
#zenlesszonezero #zenless #zhuyuan
Zenless Zone Zero
Zhu Yuan And Belle Watching What Kinda Tape😳?
This was wild when this conversation happened—lol
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every factory you build is inndirect response to an ongoing refugee crisis
Porn.
to try and provide them shelter aid, and support
ok fair enough lmao
Still that fringe group of extremists are a group of dumbasses who fight you with barely put together weapons and who only seem to be fighting you because they’re eye manipulated into hating you because again, they’re just stupid
you are not colonizing anything
incredible conversations to be having in parallel rn
no, theybhate you because of past stuff
ohhhh yeah makes sense
I should probably start playing again before inertia makes me stop entirely
they are raiders as a culture, they sre written as orks because. . . .well, thay's funky eriting
i'll give you that
cuz I wanna get back into it
maybe to give them.soke.unique vibes
i'm.not the writing team
but they also havedissidents withinnthe clan
who tried to go their own wau but are seemingly getting killed
Also also also
Apparently endministrator was so propagandized they’re treated like god or something?
They aren't veing manipulated intk hating you, they're being directed by a singular leader instead of just being a loosely affiliated set of gangs
they already didn't have a friendly relation with endfield and related factions due to past history
Not to mention that a very clear sign the game gives you that there is more to the situation is that one of your allies kinds micro aggresses another one bybsayign "oh so they'rr the bad guys but you, you're the good guys"
and he basically refuses to justify it with a response
Like a consistant factor to AK's writing is thst it will let characters be biased
they stop doing that from what we heard and do a reunion style bait and switch. and the bonekrushers are not really doing the "dumb bandits on drugs™ are a type of person you can kill without repercussions" they are more of a "retvrn neofash group that raids settlements". we haven't played the game but these are direct quotes from someone we know who did play it
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) I mean just acting as colonizers against a group of, let’s be honest dumbass village burner the band…
i can see that, ye
also according to their read of the story endfield industries is supposed to be a colonial force, written so most likely on purpose
honestly the reunion style bait and switch was a bit unnecessary imo
this analyss is good because it hints at something very important for Gregor
which relates his lack of Wrath to his screwy ass EGO
i don't reallynsee it as a bait ans switch tbh
Gregor prioritizes suppressing his emotions and not letting his feelings take control of him or drive him to action over all else
Ooh nods nods
tru
to the point that his EGO, his innermost drive, is a system that processes other feelings into sloth
Givem.whatbwe just saw
Greg very much has to never give into his anger like.that
oooh
oooooooh
the complex that rules his mind turns his emotions into inaction and stagnancy
that's whybthenfingers and statuses are likemthat
I went to take a look at every level 90 character and ended up with this skndjsjsbs
I don’t know how useful looking at just levels is, context matters and all, but
Suddenly, One Day is a momentary eruption of those other pent up feelings I guess, yeah
levels gives a ball park estimate
but i think in that fight
*everyone else we've seen
would have gotten mulched by the kaiser
nah, LCD diff they could've handled it
lol
(the purple smoke would've been extremely effective on Gregor)
the harmful pest debuff
is the real.killer
Verg'a shield is the only reasonmthe fight is surviable
Yeah the damage the Emperor puts out might just be too much
anyways real shit when Gregor's turn is finished (the entire game so far has been Gregor's turn) his EGO might switch to Wrath res
real
If greg hadn’t been holding back against tje sinners we very likely could’ve lost
100%
Oooohh
Like bodysack in that one scene
Also losing SP any time he clashes against a Sinner
Yeah
That scene is so peak still
Kaiser isn’t even his final form
which is what maxes the -90 hit so.mich harder to me
His SP passive is so sad
there is zero way for greg to rise up above 0 sp
so the -90 is purely there for storytelling
Even wnning clashes against Verg?
No positive SP conditions
iirc that doesn't do anything either
Dang
positive sp conditions
Most depressed Gregor
He can't gain SP naturally
just stays the same if he wins?
Yes
I think that LCB is bad end Gregor
and that just puts him back at zero, iirc
The ways to gain and lose SP are specific to each character, even if most of them just share the common ones
I disagree on the basis that I don't think it'll be an actual end
That’s fair yeah
like, the same way the other bad ends are an end, such that there is no other path, no other potential
this is who they are now, and always will be
vs. like, I think we're gonna get somewhere with gregor
even if shit gets dire
Nodsnods
Maybe Greg and or Rodya will get true bad end IDs in canto 13 or something
Kinda hoping we might actually get into a fight with Hermann next chapter now
Speaking of Rodya, her spiral of contempt abno log is so interesting
Oh fr?
It brings the more bitter parts of her personality to the surface (since SoC really irritates her due to the fact it's whole thing is looking down on people)
Then we actually see her snap back to the joking persona in real time in the sinner comments section
Manifesting more content for her soon
Surely
I hate
being left on a clifd hanger for grwg
but it has fed me good greg/rodya ship art
Next intervallo surely
He's gonna be okay, I'm sure
next intervallo is just going to be Rodigor hetgem fluff trust
i have to wonder
I do hope next intervallo is gonna deal with the aftermath of the raid
I don't think he can just keep being the non-chalant guy
He definitely will
The thing is, that's what Gregor wants to be
i will say
Just a regular guy
He doesn't want people to see him any different
to hear Choi Han crashing out
I do not understand a word that man says but he steals the show every time
I gotta imaginr that since he gets to emote so rarely with greg
everytime he's guven the go ahead
he puts his whole soul into it
mhm
it'd prob be envy ornpride
if only because
that would be such a detriment
in any other sin affinity rn
Verg all wrath id in canto 13 trust
I wonder what other res types we'll get besides pride and envy
qe uave some gluttony and wrath
but i think pride and especially envy will be the main focus ones
"gluttony res" and it's a single skill on Hong Lord
Give us the scars and make them wrath resonance
Please
Come on
It’d be so fitting
and several ego
oh wait fr?
We have one Lust resonance gimmick in C.A. Ryoshu (Ego and ID)
Also a couple of the bloodfiends (Barber and Priest)
fish named kali
fish named ishmael
Is this a website?
the site is by IP so you probably couldn't
but
yes
no its based on cookies
just use a private tab
gimme
for example
Why does Rose get the nonviolent one 
For it is the will of the city.
Well that’ll fuck up my sleep schedule
You think the culture in Index controlled areas is such that you can just show someone your violent prescript and they’ll go “eh, okay, I’ll help with that”
Probably
Everyone knows not following the prescript means death
They might be more understanding
"...yeah, sure, you can beat me with the rope. just don't do it too hard, ok?"
I wonder if any of the Index’s gods enjoy it when people do creative interpretations of prescripts
Like, this one doesn’t say you have to hurt them physically, if you use the rope to break stuff they own then you’re hurting them financially instead
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Hold on, I just got a new prescript
“Let a proxy kill you to death for being such a smartass”
That answers that I guess
oh the prescript website got updated
yeah, it has the device vibes now instead of the text just fading in
ohhhh true
It says you have to go to bed, not go to sleep
just laying down should work
This index shit is easy
Voy will make it far as a Proxy
Gimme another
I dont wear gloves or own a pair
it must be referring to my hands
I have skin on them thats like a glove for my flesh
If you get buy a pair, they're then yours.
True, but it doesn't say the gloves you own right now.
Also it says to remember to brush your teeth, not to actually brush your teeth.
shit yeah
I suppose just the next time I put my pair of gloves on
Yup!
the prescripts will aligns with your schedule
the prescript knows best
the prescript knows bes
this one is... comedically specific but sure. i'm just not certain if "most-naive girl" includes at least some of us or not
The schedule of the prescript... aligns with my own /j
?
electrical cables in Arknights Endfield
ah
(Edit) guys mine is broken
The fixer in question
(It's a simple div when it's generated, so you can just edit the text)
Oh sick
something that bothers me slightly
why does Bongy, the fucking. chicken guy. why does this restaraunt owner have more muscle definition than the red mist
why isn't kali fucking ripped
like not even the distortion just the normal-ass guy
steroids
Muscle definition isn’t really as tied to strength as you’d expect from media
okay yeah true
especially with augments in the City being so prevalent
Vergilius isn't jacked but he could still kick down a building
so
I guess this is fine
idk I just wanna see buff women lowk
Kali fights with a sword which should put some bulk on her arms but also Eunbong is a chef that shit constantly uses your arms for repeated, small-muscle-exhausting tasks
ohhhhhhh yeah true
he also looks tren'd as fuck
Roland is also not that muscly
if you're going for real world swordfighting builds this is one of the top historical fencers in the world
Also chefs tend to be a Type Of Guy who work out a lot
also true
clearly strong arms but not like, jacked
yeah okay makes sense
also given how EGO and shit works
from lifting sacks of potatoes
i would assume your build doesnt need to reflect your actual exercise exactly the same
Also like, I will just say the art style has changed in limbus
yeah I mentioned that after
with like
Muscles in general just, weren’t shown in lob Corp and ruina
There’s like, 3 visibly muscular dudes in ruina
