Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[wild mango]

The sillyyyyyy

[mystic ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-in-utter-disbelief-gato-gif-4675144530503950971

[stoic fjord]

https://youtu.be/85WWz_FQPD0

I wish I was a Clerk in Outis's department

[vagrant dove]

What on god's green earth

[bronze zephyr]

Dear god

[ebon forge]

what the fuck

[mystic ermine]

Redoing this fight
instantly crying
spoilers for canto 9

[stoic fjord]

Real

[mystic ermine]

I HATE T CORP
I HATE IT
CAN WE KILL IT

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409139898975256576/1432289919551668235/togif-5.gif

[ebon forge]

its not t corp's fault tbh

[bronze zephyr]

We hate t Corp for other reasons

[atomic steeple]

Sanity damage on the team
https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qju5zc/that_damn_ishmael_id_huh/

[mystic ermine]

i want to see Greg aurafarm again

off we go

[mystic ermine]

Remember

her S3 is gloom

[ebon forge]

isnt magic bullet pride

unless youre talking lcb outis

[atomic steeple]

Huh, I don't think we have an Egyptian themed abno?

[tiny cave]

The fault lies with Ishmael obviously

[mystic ermine]

mhm, her

waahhh look at me I couldn't solo the ||roach emperor|| waahhhh I needed the help of a colour waahhhh

"I always screw everything up" this, "just end me, please" that

have you tried not giving up and being silly?

[ebon forge]

In the Kabbalah, the sin of the Tree of Knowledge (called Cheit Eitz HaDa'at) brought about the great task of beirurim, sifting through the mixture of good and evil in the world to extract and liberate the sparks of holiness trapped therein.

hmmmmmmmmm

[bronze zephyr]

It might be cool if Canto 13 was a series of 1v1s where every sinner faces off against a thematically relevant opponent
I think every sinner except the ones who haven’t gone, and maybe Don and Ryoshu, have some N Corp fucker that parallels them?
Ishmael is funny because it’s just Ahab again

[bronze zephyr]

Oh interesting

[ebon forge]

you see what im thinking, right?

[mystic ermine]

nope, no clue

please elaborate

wait

I think a thought about Sinclkair is manifesting

[ebon forge]

its lobcorp/light stuff

[mystic ermine]

nevermind, then

but still, there's credit to the sinclair thing
because
like
he's got a branch as an E.G.O, between two worlds, light n dark

[split beacon]

huh, I guess that's kind of like facing the sin and saving the EGO

[ebon forge]

yeah

[mystic ermine]

"sifting through" - getting bonuses when flipping opposing coins

[ebon forge]

its fruit of knowledge stuff

[split beacon]

oh we can talk about Sinclair

[ebon forge]

tree of knowledge, but yeah

its Sinclair's EGO, right?

[split beacon]

Sinclair's funny because his symbolism is about a tree and a branch but it's not the Tree of Life

[bronze zephyr]

Sinclair is such a special little guy

[split beacon]

it's specifically the Tree of Knowledge

A.C.S. is really important for this analysis now because of the line "I once sought answers from knowledge, too..." implying he's given up on knowledge as a path forward

[ebon forge]

ACS?

[split beacon]

||A Certain Sinclair||

[ebon forge]

oh i get it now

yeah sinclair is interestinggggggggggggg

[atomic steeple]

Considering the importance of dias and moses

[split beacon]

frog lol

[ebon forge]

religion is too fucking cool for what the people do with it

worlds most fucking toxic fandom frfr

[atomic steeple]

Frog?

[ebon forge]

lmao

ok but seriously the powerscaling goes crazy /j

[split beacon]

yeah the frog, fucking, the Envy weak frog that I hate

I can't remember its name

[stoic fjord]

blubbering toad

[split beacon]

but the plague of frogs is one of the Ten Plagues of Egypt lol

[ebon forge]

and you have like the scene where he fucking splits the ocean and then the whole traitor arc 🔥

ok im shitposting rn but i actually like the bible as a book

(i was raised christian, now agnostic)

[atomic steeple]

I like religion and mysticism

[split beacon]

not a controversial take in pjmoon chat tbh

[atomic steeple]

Got a cool occultism book to get through

[split beacon]

yo what book

[ebon forge]

i should actually read my copy of the divine comedy

[stoic fjord]

for all my distaste towards religion as an institution they was lowk cooking with the lore and worldbuilding

[atomic steeple]

Ugh, I'll grab the exact name and author when I get up
Taking care of cats rn

[split beacon]

cheers

[ebon forge]

peak fiction with worlds worst fandom, lol

[stoic fjord]

I honestly think

that by proportion

there are probably worse fandoms

it's just that the religions are biggest and thus have the largest sample group

and thus you will eventually get crazy shit

[atomic steeple]

Well, people will be much worse when it comes to beliefs they hold about life and the world
Capitalism
The whole techbro religion like beliefs

[stoic fjord]

like I'm not saying there's fandoms out there that would do the crusades

[atomic steeple]

They invented a belief of an AI-run hell

[stoic fjord]

but also lowkey there's fandoms that would do the crusades

[ebon forge]

im not surprised

also guess who did the crusades /j

[stoic fjord]

I moreso mean that's my point

[ebon forge]

in the end though, yeah there are some that would do that

[stoic fjord]

that they're probably not worse than any other major fandom with big divides in opinion, assuming the same amount of people participating

[atomic steeple]

Really, a lot of transhumanism is tech themed religion, with a belief of an ascension/rapture through tech
And a lot of transhumanists flip out and hate on people who disagree on trabshumanism/immortality, because those are heretics basically

Also, gonna be honest, fandom is not a fitting word here

Anyway, back on pmoon

[atomic steeple]

I am curious if we'll get more overt Egypt abnos, or old testament ones, comnected thematically to Dias

[stoic fjord]

it's got fanfiction, it's got casual fans, it's got the crazy devoted fans, it's got the homophobic people, it's got the gay people, it's got the talented artists, it has online communities dedicated to it

it's a fandom /j

[atomic steeple]

Sigh, lets drop it

[stoic fjord]

ok

maybe my perception has been warped by my pseudo-religious practices regarding Hatsune Miku

that's probably it

I'm so poor

[unique bane]

https://old.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qjymcs/tale_of_a_little_birdby_maotukix/?ref=share&ref_source=link

😭

[mystic ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

...

I cant come up with a good adaptation of rhat scene for limbus ajd running out of something

Like, what
"Its so sad the lcb ran out of enkephalin"
"Whay the hell is enkephalin"
"L.C.B"
...
Rhat doesn't make sense
Urgh

Whateve

I give ul

[unique bane]

lei heng with jetstream sam's sword

[mystic ermine]

Cooool

Kind of loons like a rifle instead of
Whatever brand of fictional gun blade it is

[split beacon]

the funny thing is, Sam's sword actually is a rifle

it's an AR-15 lower receiver firing blanks, the gases from which are channeled into the sheath to launch the sword

[stoic fjord]

I thought it was just that the holster launched it?

ohhhh okay that makes sense

I assume "Administrator" was just manager but translated poorly?

[dusty sigil]

That’s another line that makes me really think ACS was way more, sinister then most people seem to think

||Like, the tree of knowledge is such an important symbol for Sinclair’s development, knowing one of his future selves seemed to just give it up is concerning||

[split beacon]

I actually think it's very interesting because Sinclair's development seems to indicate he needs to sever that branch himself

Gluttony, and the reckless pursuit of knowledge without realizing not all knowledge is beneficial, are his sin

[main scaffold]

||He is also, like, mechanically racist against prosthetic users, +40% damage is even more than N Clair||

MagmaNaught (any) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) That’s another line that makes me really think ACS was way more, sinister then most people seem to t…

[golden meadow]

NO

[stoic fjord]

NClair only has 10% iirc

[split beacon]

That's how Kromer ensnares him. It's not just appealing to his dark side, it's the thought he can grasp the darkness and know it without becoming part of it

[golden meadow]

NOT AGAIN

[stoic fjord]

even Kromer only has 10%, I think?

[atomic steeple]

Lunatic, my book
Tratado elementar de ciências ocultas, by Papus
That is, Elementary Treatise on Occult Sciences

[dusty sigil]

I mean yah that too didn’t help

[keen palm]

Is Sinclair ableist or racist

[dusty sigil]

A little bit of both

[split beacon]

hating prosthetics users is a cipher for category hatred in general in Limbus

[atomic steeple]

It's fun, he goes on ancient knowledge and mystery cults

[split beacon]

interesting, very interesting

[dusty sigil]

That’s true but I feel like the full abandonment of it is another dead end for Sinclair

Especially since like mentioned, it’s not like ACS let go of his hatred

If anything it’s only solidified further

[atomic steeple]

Picked it as my beginners book, over a kabbalah book I als found in the same book fair

[split beacon]

That’s true, he abandoned the desire to know and with it the desire to understand

[atomic steeple]

Gonna look for a kabbalah book later maybe. Also curious to find a non-wicca witchcraft book, if that exists

[dusty sigil]

If Sinclair is an egg waiting to hatch, just cutting the tree is accepting himself at any stage of development he’s at

Which, for ACS

Is a cruel soldier transformed by the smoke war

[split beacon]

Sinclair is such a damn interesting character

[dusty sigil]

More complete then our current Sinclair but stagnant in himself

Not the ideal (heh) he can reach

[split beacon]

I mean I think he also kinda acknowledges that

[dusty sigil]

Oh yah

I think ACS knows that

[split beacon]

Whether he wanted to or not, the war ultimately stopped him from growing

[dusty sigil]

He’s the one who said he no longer pursues knowledge

[split beacon]

Which is VERY interesting

[dusty sigil]

He’s one with the smoke now

[split beacon]

Because in Demian, the war is the crucible that allowed Sinclair to fully develop and temper his dark side, which is kinda fucked actually?

[dusty sigil]

Also very interesting to see that the mark doesn’t ensure that he becomes the same in every timeline

The mark merely ensures he will be an important person

It ensures nothing about the person he’ll be

[dusty sigil]

I can’t imagine going to war is good for anyone

[split beacon]

Yeah well Demian is a weird book

So I think it’s good of Project Moon to apprehend that by having ACS be ||that future, tempered version of Sinclair|| but also obviously be unfinished and only half-baked

[dusty sigil]

We can only hope this isn’t the end for our Sinclair

Especially since ||it’s implied the rest of the sinners died in that timeline||

[vagrant dove]

Yeah I think A.C.S' timeline is "failed", in a sense

[split beacon]

Oh absolutely

[atomic steeple]

Homestuck doomed timeline

[split beacon]

I’ve been debating with a friend whether the Second Smoke War is inevitable or if preventing it will be a core conflict of the coming story

[keen palm]

He's from the timeline where they kept releasing new characters instead of keeping to the sinners and they got powercrept out

[dusty sigil]

Dante makes a choice and sees this popup

[vagrant dove]

FATE LOST

[dusty sigil]

I think changing it will be apart of the core conflict

With Gregor’s part in spring cultivation and the flow becoming more and more important recently

[atomic steeple]

Dante, seeing that the racist npc in skyrim is essencial so they can't kill them

[split beacon]

Also “the smoke was blue” is mad fuckin funny in the context of The Magic Blue Smoke

[dusty sigil]

And also everyone dying in that timeline

[split beacon]

Motherfuckers uncorked all the CPUs in the city and let the magic blue smoke out

[vagrant dove]

We might get to see a few more branches so to speak

Through his mark

[atomic steeple]

Also, gregor's ego has red smoke, and might be related to old l corp

[bronze zephyr]

This was also my thought when ACS described how his existence might be 😭

[vagrant dove]

I think there's going to be a Second Smoke War- what happens in it is up to us, honestly

Because the City is on the edge

[dusty sigil]

Like I think next canto will be like, the last chance to prevent the ACS timeline

[bronze zephyr]

N Corp is Prepping for it

[dusty sigil]

As N Corp is about to go kill

So fucking many people

[split beacon]

Realistically we can’t avoid WWII, it’s gonna happen

[dusty sigil]

And almost certainly start it

[atomic steeple]

I wonder
Who has the smoke singularity, for the second war? Hermann?

[dusty sigil]

Also I will say

[split beacon]

The smoke was blue

[vagrant dove]

It has been for a while, with the collapse of Lobotomy Corporation and the resulting energy crisis

Also fun fact

[dusty sigil]

It does seem like ACS didn’t experience what we experienced in canto 9

[vagrant dove]

T Corp has just bought a shit ton of monoliths

[split beacon]

Yeah

He didn’t

[dusty sigil]

Since he didn’t know he’d be summoned to it

Our Sinclair awakened his mark sooner then he did

[vagrant dove]

what the fuck are they going to use them for?

[dusty sigil]

Which is already a big difference

[split beacon]

Remember how ACS has a bonus against Distortions

[dusty sigil]

I ||bet if not, Alyssa or Hohenheim would have died fighting Callipso||

[faint pivot]

Spoilers

[vagrant dove]

Mhm

I think the weaponised distortions thing is gonna happen

[dusty sigil]

Shit sorry

[faint pivot]

Thanks

[keen palm]

I imagine the second smoke war is gonna be Demien's doing

The coming war against the Nebula

[split beacon]

Fucking blue man group

Not gonna lie, Demian phrased that shit like it would be an outside force attacking The City at large

[keen palm]

Yeah

I don't trust him to be the one to stop it

evil little white boy that he is

[vagrant dove]

Shit's getting fucked up in here honestly

Like the two cantos before we presumably get Dante's are

[dusty sigil]

Evil ass twink

[vagrant dove]

The war veteran with an extremely dubious past

And Faust

I think we will be Exploring Certain Things

In the buildup to whatever's gonna happen to cause that mass death event

Does anyone else hear that ominous bell tolling?

[split beacon]

Just you

Anyways I’m sure Meursault’s Canto will be very lighthearted and-

snrk

Yeah fucking right, it’s Act 3 of Inferno’s narrative arc

[dusty sigil]

Billions are dead by the end of canto 10

[karmic escarp]

🔔

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eN7oq8oekw

[dusty sigil]

But legitimately

God

Please

Give us a light hearted intervallo next

I need something fucking light

[split beacon]

It’s what

[dusty sigil]

It’s been FUCKED

[split beacon]

LCE BokGak, Intervallo I, Midnight Sweeping BokGak, Intervallo II

Walpurgisnacht somewhere in there

[dusty sigil]

Walp should be soon

It’s been nearly 2 months now

[split beacon]

Oh also when’s ID teaser o’clock

It’s a double banner next I think?

[dusty sigil]

Oh nice

[atomic steeple]

Getting a fracture for each part of the soul beyond Sheut would be too much
But would be cool. Just fracture every singly part of the enemies' souls

You ba? Broken. Your ab? Pieces
Your ka? Already a wreck when we got here

[stoic fjord]

so with (9-45 spoilers) ||The Ungeziefer Kaiser and all, and that being not even the actual end product, and it being the work of a *now defunct Corp that was defeated and replaced...||

...what the fuck do the other corps have in stock? what the fuck does the Head have in stock?

[karmic escarp]

||something even scarier than arbiters and those other guys i cant remember the name off that can smash you through dimensions||

[main scaffold]

||The Claws||

[cosmic gorge]

The bloated gacha roster timeline

[bronze zephyr]

Oh fr?

[stoic fjord]

||right but we haven't even seen the full extent of what those guys can do||

[signal kindle]

y'all wanna see soemthing strange/cursed

probably more strange than cursed

[atomic steeple]

What?

[cosmic gorge]

Is this a Mersault edit again

[signal kindle]

Myo but GREEN

Green RRR

[atomic steeple]

Huh

[signal kindle]

its no longer RRR its GGG

[signal kindle]

I uh

[atomic steeple]

Green looks good on her

[signal kindle]

I dont even know why I bothered putting this here now

[signal kindle]

I know its strangely fitting

[cosmic gorge]

She looks like a helldiver in that

[stoic fjord]

fuuuuck I'm so fucking poor rn

[wild mango]

Is the “charge” team and the “envy” team any different really?

[stoic fjord]

14 lunacy to my name

[stoic fjord]

Envy uses more, well

envy stuff

like

[wild mango]

I know they have some overlap but I don’t know how much

[stoic fjord]

iirc Harpooner Heathcliff is a major one for difference

[wild mango]

Id wise

[stoic fjord]

uhhhhhh

tbh I feel like it's kind of more of a spectrum almost

[wild mango]

Yeah

[stoic fjord]

in which I highkey want to spend an unwise sum of money on pulls

40 pulls.. for 22 bucks...

roughly 55 cents per pull

58 cents with tax

[wild mango]

Cos I know you don’t really want FULL charge nowadays

Cos charge doesn’t have like

BL mersault

[stoic fjord]

I like full charge but that's in part probably some sort of weird masochism

[ebon forge]

full charge is fine tbh

its fun

[dusty sigil]

Chat, for the 5 bloodfiends+Kurokumo duo team, how much lust resonance do they need for their passives to active?

[wild mango]

Uhhhhhh at least 3?

[dusty sigil]

Ah that isn’t bad

[wild mango]

4 if you want fausts bench passive

[dusty sigil]

Still not bad

[wild mango]

(The one who grips Faust)

[dusty sigil]

Yah I know

[split beacon]

oh wait

we're never getting matthias outis lol, we already have LCA Udjat Vanguard Outis

[dusty sigil]

We’ve gotten other sinners with multiple seasonal IDs

Gregor got priest and fire fist

[split beacon]

hmmmmmmm

I'm still doubtful we get Nursefather IDs, but also assigning the Sinners to specifically have counterparts in the World of the House of Spiders is

[split beacon]

hmmmmm

[cosmic gorge]

Funny how uadjat outis exiled herself from the greater House of Spiders mirror world for being so badass she stops the plot from happening

Nice pictograms asshole

Check this out

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-gun-kermit-gun-gif-16355306064126846866

[dusty sigil]

Hit him with that full stop strat

5 assholes with machine guns

[wild mango]

I read udjat outis’ uptie story on the wiki, where do they mag dump rien?

[dusty sigil]

It’s in her win quote

She talks about how for a former star of the city he wasn’t that tough

[wild mango]

||It’s really funny to know that they would have cooked him if there wasn’t sabotage||

[atomic steeple]

She was removed from that world

[split beacon]

yeah I realized lol

she's that good

[dusty sigil]

Look the Udjat were a high graded office for a reason

[split beacon]

"actually fuck the plot"

the flow can fuck off

[dusty sigil]

And this the section armed with a fuck ton of high powered fully automatic rifles

[cosmic gorge]

On that Resident Evil protag grindset

[dusty sigil]

The Udjat don’t fuck around

They will kill you

[split beacon]

they seem to be using auto shotguns actually

[cosmic gorge]

Idc about your manmade horrors beyond my comprehension

BANG BANG BANG

[dusty sigil]

Goddamn

Also I am legitimately curious if there are still like, normal Udjat working for limbus

The ones we see in Ruina

Basic suit, kopesh

We’ve so far seen the scout and vanguard teams

So presumably there are more

[split beacon]

Considering they're Dias's toys, she probably reoutfitted them when they were folded into LCA

[stoic fjord]

"This shit ain't nothing to me man, I'll fuckin kill you"

[dusty sigil]

Udjat teams after they get 10 protection in a single turn

[split beacon]

They're smoking dung beetle

[atomic steeple]

https://old.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qjftmc/cooking_for_your_daughter/

"You know what? I got nothin'. Bless y'all's hearts"

[dusty sigil]

Dias after she sends 5 Udjat into the library to accomplish nothing and be teleported randomly across the city:

Legitimately though did she just wanna confirm Angela is in charge?

[atomic steeple]

New sinking mechanic idea: panic entanglement
Just mix the panics

[split beacon]

you can stack panic-changing effects anyways

[atomic steeple]

you can?

huh

[split beacon]

like

[atomic steeple]

Never got to use them

[wild mango]

||god i hope we get to kick Dias’ ass||

[atomic steeple]

Sinking looking at tremor entanglement: look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power

[split beacon]

you can stack manor wifi, ruin, shattermark, and blue sand

I don't know which will take priority though lol

[atomic steeple]

Damn, giving the enemy the whole book of mental diagnoses

[split beacon]

oh it's whatever has the highest stack, and in a tie it's whatever was applied most recently

[cosmic gorge]

Cant believe they gave Ryoshu the anime/gacha game girl quirk of being a cute girl who makes vile food /j

[stoic fjord]

I was about to say "huh?" and then I remembered Raiden Ei and Alexandrina

though I would also argue Raiden doesn't count because it's not that she makes vile food

[worthy haven]

man ryos season pass ego corruption is such an awesome animation

[stoic fjord]

but that she cannot actually cook at all

[atomic steeple]

mistery food x from persona 4

Crazy good animation of the final boss in canto 9
||https://old.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qj4iq3/the_index_nursefather_animation/||

[ebon forge]

I met a wild pmoon fan today

[stoic fjord]

how wild

[ebon forge]

SORA DRAWER

[split beacon]

what

[ebon forge]

AND AGREES RHAT CALLISTO IS A WET CAT

[split beacon]

lmfao

that's pretty wild

[stoic fjord]

peak!!

[cosmic gorge]

PEAAAK

[ebon forge]

They drew Sora so fucking cute omg

[atomic steeple]

Man, the soothing song goes so well with the hype scene

[stoic fjord]

fuuuuuuhuuuuuck

I'm highkey never pulling for fun again

why the fuck did I do that

I have no enkephalin

no lunacy

won't get lunacy until like

next week

I'm fucking poor

[worthy haven]

Stay strong

[worthy haven]

Iron mind

Endure the the week delay

[gentle mulch]

you have to stay strong for walp

[stoic fjord]

I mustn't ever spend another pull ever again until Walpurgisnacht

[gentle mulch]

yes

etch that into your heart and carve that into the 5th stranger you come across until you can hear it in the wind

😌

[faint pivot]

Solidarity

[stoic fjord]

I spent fifty fucking pulls on the Ryo Banner

And I think I got a total of jack shit

[vagrant dove]

Me staring at the newest cool id but also the walp fund I need to raise

[stoic fjord]

What the fuck was I thinking

[gentle mulch]

my philosophy on banners is that if i cant draw 200

i dont draw

unless i have a ticketo

[stoic fjord]

I need to internalize that

[gentle mulch]

🙏 my gacha mantra

if it is not guaranteed

it is a loss

[cosmic gorge]

I do not want
And when i dont i get it

[vagrant dove]

My philosophy has been "if i can't get it in the first ten pull I'm sharding it" which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't

Except if it's walp

[cosmic gorge]

Got kiramael in my first nonchalant pull

[vagrant dove]

This means when I do get it in the first ten pull I am pleasantly surprised

When I do not, I endure and grind mds

[bronze zephyr]

Same

[gentle mulch]

oh btw we're absolutely getting the Fatal Encounter nursefathers in MD as secret bosses

[vagrant dove]

Yeah

[bronze zephyr]

Emperor Gregor……..secret boss……..

No vergilius…….

[gentle mulch]

me trying to not to throw away my 3 hours of MDIE away when i see that fuckass odin eye in floor 11

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[ebon forge]

The worst part about project moon is that they have too many Potential Characters

In the sense of being really good villains or having stories that NEED to be explored

[gentle mulch]

the best part about it is that we finally have a "please never reach your potential" man

[ebon forge]

But nope, haha fuck you no

[vagrant dove]

Yeah

[tiny cave]

Do another 10 pull
Trust the prescript

[ebon forge]

I want an entire The House of Spiders comic series

[vagrant dove]

I mean I like that because the City is a place where stories just- end

[gentle mulch]

where the fuck is xiao

[vagrant dove]

But I also cope by reading fanfic where x character survives

[gentle mulch]

where the fuck is finn

[tiny cave]

Finn is the Jade Qilin

[bronze zephyr]

Finn?

[tiny cave]

The Jade QiFinn

[vagrant dove]

SHOW ME XIAO

[tiny cave]

The very first enemy you fight in Ruina

Part of the Rats

[bronze zephyr]

Ah lol

[vagrant dove]

No, he comes after the rats

He's the fixer kid

[gentle mulch]

like one of if not the first fight you get is like. a young boy without augments who's like "i got a invitatn!! im gonna! explore!!"

[faint pivot]

Yeap

[gentle mulch]

and then you fucking kill him

[faint pivot]

That's death alright

[gentle mulch]

with a color fixer level guy

[vagrant dove]

"I'm becoming a Fixer so I can pay for my sister to move out of the Backstreets!"

[faint pivot]

I love how despite being a setting full of it, PMoon still gives that shit weight

[vagrant dove]

"I sure hope nothing goes wrong-"

And then you fucking kill him

[ebon forge]

Callisto is a fucking sob story to me

[bronze zephyr]

Damn

[ebon forge]

Also

[gentle mulch]

PJMoon has one of the more like. tolerable uses of "death is common" settings

[ebon forge]

Callisto Yi Sang would’ve been really interesting

[vagrant dove]

I think it's because the people that die aren't treated as meaningless thematically

[gentle mulch]

because like jjk and demon slayer are like ohhhh. we' have backstories suddenly now that we're being cut in half the flashbacks ohh hhh

[vagrant dove]

Like in say, Warhammer, ten trillion people die, normal day

The city's a place where death is cheap but you also get to see the people that die- their hopes, aspirations, ect

In more depth

[gentle mulch]

and PJM is more like "yeah death is super common we've gotten ourselves to be closed off, it's just a part of life, we have to move on" and yet all the people we follow absolutely cannot help themselves from being human and warping because of the constant violence

like verg my fraudest goat is a staple example of "im just not gonna get used to it if you pmo (affiliated with the ring) im just gonna crash out like im just gonna kill you"

xiao has a whole ass ghost convo about it

phillip.

angela, roland

etc.

[stoic fjord]

I think part of what especially helps it not feel meaningless is that even as it's "this is this, and that's that", it's also like. Everyone has to deal with it. We see people grieve and suffer and close themselves off

[vagrant dove]

Then on the other end of thr spectrum you have Valencina, who is very clearly deeply warped by her Smoke War experience but refuses to actually reckon with it

[gentle mulch]

PJM has a universe where "boohoo my wife is dead" was written to be genuinely compelling and they did it like FIVE times, where most cant even make ONE interesting

[stoic fjord]

It's very real and immediate. These people are traumatized. Or they have their hopes and dreams ripped away from them. A combination.

[ebon forge]

Warhammer’s scale is too fucking big tbh

[stoic fjord]

That as well

I do not care if a trillion people die

[ebon forge]

Project Moon is cyberpunk, really

[stoic fjord]

I care if this woman's husband dies

[ebon forge]

It’s cyberpunk done really fucking well

[gentle mulch]

and people just perpetuate it and then they face those consequences and whoever punishes them gets punished etc etc

[stoic fjord]

Even though she's had 3 minutes of screen time and mostly aura farmed

[ebon forge]

We don’t actually talk about the cyber much but it’s the definition of a “rebellion against the system” kinda story which also screams “the machine will never die”

[stoic fjord]

Because like. She feels real. She has camaraderie with her coworkers and talks about how work has been ramping up recently

I think part of what helps is also PMoon being more abstract in its lore and such

While also defined enough to be interesting

[vagrant dove]

Same with a lot of other villains. Like these people suck horribly, but they are so evidently products of the equally horrible world they live in

[gentle mulch]

Limbus is the first game of the 3 iirc where it's not really an explicit "rebellion against the system" yet

[stoic fjord]

With what we're seeing, though, and the thematic stuff we've seen

I think it'll be about that

[gentle mulch]

LobCorp: haha lets do some shady shit and create a weapon to surpass the head
LoR: fuuuuuuuck i wanna see what this human shit is about
LC: well. company's orders (until it's not 😏 )

[stoic fjord]

Dante helping to break the cycles of violence, being kind, trying their best to truly connect with and understand others, to share their sorrows because they want to

[split beacon]

Nah this is the acme of restraint in character writing

Say enough to make them interesting, leave enough unsaid to leave the audience hungry for more

[vagrant dove]

And that adds a lot more weight to when they do die imo, because it's all really part of the overarching idea of the cycle of violence

[gentle mulch]

i still cant believe the LCB actually made a good ending with Xichun being the head of H Corp

[split beacon]

Never milk a character so completely that there are no mysteries or interesting questions left

[stoic fjord]

The best works will have you feral and screaming about a character because you got just enough to work and be super good but not so much that you can be fully satisfied

[split beacon]

For main characters that means they need to have a lot of depth

Which our cast does

[ebon forge]

I really just want to know what made them that way and so on tbh

[vagrant dove]

Which, in true cyberpunk fashion, has the setting and the Power as the ultimate enemy

[split beacon]

For bit villains like Callisto that means hinting and suggesting at more but never saying it

[ebon forge]

It’s like, we just don’t have enough ever

[split beacon]

See, you wanting to know more means they did their job

[stoic fjord]

Even after Yi Sang's xanto, and Ishmael's canto, we're still like

So so so fucking in the dark about some developments

[vagrant dove]

Tldr: i reallyvlike how PM writes characters

[crimson spindle]

characters feel more human if some part of them is hinted at but concealed

[split beacon]

Getting enough is actually too much

[ebon forge]

And I hate them for killing my little wet cat

[split beacon]

Is the thing

[crimson spindle]

nobody is fully ass out to the world

[stoic fjord]

And we get to see some of that! Come to our own conclusions and such

But this isn't their story

It's the LCB's story

So we only really see what's important for telling the story of our sinner

[split beacon]

God, I love the Tomino school

[ebon forge]

I WANT BACKSTORY REHHHH

[gentle mulch]

i dont like complaints that ryoshu didnt get enough for her canto because it indicates that the critic has never been around someone who compares their partner to their ex a lot

[split beacon]

Never, NEVER say enough that your audience knows how the characters are in the dark

[gentle mulch]

because it's a very telling situation when that happens.

[split beacon]

Leave that shit to the imagination

[stoic fjord]

If i cannot pile headcanons on them you've written too much /hj

[split beacon]

No actually, Tomino School shit

[fluid whale]

So uh, actually legitimately asking for a friend, is there something you can do to fix this?

[split beacon]

Leave the audience with enough questions that they need to write doujins about it for decades

[stoic fjord]

I actually am drafting up so much fucking fanfiction for the house of spiders I feel like a madwoman

[split beacon]

LMFAO

Realest fucking post

[vagrant dove]

I do think we could have used a little more araya-ryoshu, but I don't really get that complaint there wasn't enough ryoshu specifically honestly

[gentle mulch]

depends on what you mean by fix but i just try not to be around that kind of situation. it's just so messy and like so terrible

[split beacon]

Ryoshu’s Canto IX doesn’t need more said because it would be endlessly circling the drain about the same mistakes she made

We saw precisely enough

[stoic fjord]

we got what we needed to understand what happened and why

[split beacon]

Ryoshu has an unlimited well of regrets

[stoic fjord]

and what led to the modern day

[fluid whale]

If anything stop the comparisons but like, idk, I'm probably not close enough to the one making the comparisons

[vagrant dove]

Like to make it that extra bit more of a gutpunch, but I am generally satisfied with the canto as a whole

[gentle mulch]

ryoshu, flay yourself more. the reddit people want it

[ebon forge]

I thought Ryoshu’s canto was entirely about using the entire environment around her to characterize her then set her up for a secondary crashout in the future when they figure out how to bring back Araya or maybe only her memories of her

Or something different

[stoic fjord]

imo what we did get was enough for it to be fucking ruinous emotionally

like. with what we saw of Araya

her presence was so deeply foundational to Ryoshu that everything is tied to her

[split beacon]

Like we could endlessly have Ryoshu spend her time gutting herself for what she could have done or couldn’t have done and what went wrong and it wasn’t fair, but what matters isnt litigating it and knowing The Answer

It’s accepting it

And living again

And that’s what she did

[stoic fjord]

she treasures her endlessly

and I think Canto 9, while certainly not flawless

[gentle mulch]

There's different ways to go about it (and it depends person by person) but you gotta either get them to move on from that past relationship or wait until they're moved on because thats just going to make current relationships worse--which is vague i know but i cannot enumerate the specific tactics for every type of person and how to get through to them, sorry

[stoic fjord]

did what it wanted to do damn near perfectly

[vagrant dove]

I did really like what we got! I just think one or two more scenes between the two wouldn't have hurt too much

[split beacon]

Like it’s called the Unsevering for a reason

[stoic fjord]

true

[split beacon]

But yeah a little Araya development might’ve been nice idk

There’s a balance

[stoic fjord]

mhm

[tiny cave]

We didn’t have enough KIM

[gentle mulch]

MORE FUCKING KIM

[stoic fjord]

Kimtervallo with Kira joining the BL

trust

[gentle mulch]

(i would have liked more araya)

[split beacon]

BRING ME BAMBOO HATTED HIM

[vagrant dove]

One complaint I don't get is ryoshu not interacting with Matthias

Because like

[split beacon]

I AM NOT DONE FIGHTING HIM WITH SINKING TEAMS

[vagrant dove]

It's so clear she's uninterested in him

[stoic fjord]

yea, true

[tiny cave]

It’s so PEAK

[stoic fjord]

she doesn't give a shit about him even remotely

[vagrant dove]

Because she knows what he is at heart

[stoic fjord]

even during the Spider House days she just didn't give a shit

[gentle mulch]

like...yeah...that's the point. they dont interact.

[stoic fjord]

they fundamentally cannot converse in any meaningful way

[vagrant dove]

Same with Callisto

[stoic fjord]

and we pick up on this very very quickly

[bronze zephyr]

Gregor intervallo 🙏

[vagrant dove]

With Valencina, the Dihui Star and Rien there's a horribly fucked up relationship

[stoic fjord]

what we did get was so fucking peak though

like

idk node 9-49 fucking hit me so hard I had to pause for a bit to cry

Canto 4, 5, 6, 7, 8

none of them hit me that hard that I had to full on take a break

play through a blur of tears? yes.

actually fully stop? no

[vagrant dove]

But there was never really one with Matthias, because the two never really had something similiar

[stoic fjord]

basically

'how could they possibly top this?"

[gentle mulch]

there's no way theyre going to make me cry on account of mommy issues twice in a row right?

[cloud wadi]

they intentionally moved her out of Spider House mirror world

with the last update

which strongly suggests

we are getting a matthias Outis ID

[split beacon]

Yeah fuck I guess lmao

Idk I’m so divided on it

On the one hand YES NURSEFATHER IDs PEAK

[gentle mulch]

my fucking GOAT too strong for this mirror world NCorp had to separate her

[vagrant dove]

9-42 and 9-45 made me sad as shit, and that wasn't even before the rest of the canto

[split beacon]

On the other: isnt that kinda strong

Isnt that a lot

[gentle mulch]

we did get lei heng

[split beacon]

But they’re also usually weaker than their boss counterparts

[stoic fjord]

we got Caposault and Lord Hong

[split beacon]

Like narratively

[stoic fjord]

also that yeah

like

[split beacon]

In their world they’re usually weaker than their counterpart in our world

Which is interesting

[gentle mulch]

and also ruina gave us Boss Weapons like crazy

[stoic fjord]

Caposault is not That Guy

like, he is that guy

but he is not That Guy

[split beacon]

DID SOMEONE SAY

[stoic fjord]

same with Lord Hong

[vagrant dove]

My poor fucking bug guy

And then I got nuked by the Araya duel and it's aftermath

[split beacon]

BOSS WEAPONS?!

[gentle mulch]

They must have Amnesia because they forgot IM HIM

https://tenor.com/view/meursault-limbus-company-true-lei-heng-meme-gif-3701643977977180585

[split beacon]

Right down the road…

[gentle mulch]

right down the

GOODBYE

https://tenor.com/view/lei-heng-limbus-company-lei-heng-limbus-the-pinky-canto-8-gif-3353535205248565240

[vagrant dove]

Hello?

[stoic fjord]

You have recieved a voicemail.

[split beacon]

Buddy, I think we should leave…

[cloud wadi]

i love you

[vagrant dove]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-there-lobotomy-corporation-my-beloved-gif-14232980689355762383

[split beacon]

gOOdbY’3

[cloud wadi]

rien's name means nothing

[gentle mulch]

^ PJM fans when they hear "I love you" from their partner a year into the talking phase

[cloud wadi]

and he's there

what could it mean

[stoic fjord]

true!

[split beacon]

That if he picked up a Mimicry EGO it would take him over like The Mask

[vagrant dove]

I still do not like the fact that N Corp has access to something related to Nothing There

[cloud wadi]

one very mysterious thing about Thumb East

why does their propulsion cartridges count as a bullet

[vagrant dove]

That is a giant chekov's gun

[cloud wadi]

it's just a rocket powered spear

[split beacon]

“Bro that Berdly pfp is taking your ass over like The Mask” but with EGO Gear

[split beacon]

So does Valencina’s Acceleration Rounds

[cloud wadi]

this confuses my brain

[split beacon]

The answer I think is that they’re basically identical to bullets in terms of being a sealed explosive cartridge

And explosives are taxed anyways

[gentle mulch]

if you fire a bullet and it hits your weapon... i guess thats still a bullet?

[split beacon]

Maybe you get taxed less than if it was a bullet with a projectile?

[cloud wadi]

probably

[gentle mulch]

i would fucking love to dissect City tax laws

like the most inane bullshit known to man

[split beacon]

More Oufi Fixer content pls

Fuck

Terrible joke

[vagrant dove]

Actual oufi content...

Give me more association lore

I hunger

[stoic fjord]

9-49 spoilers

fuck the post-battle story fucks me up I'm gonna cry so hard

[cloud wadi]

do you think oufis will enforce the implicit business standard clause in the city

[stoic fjord]

I'm genuinely fucking tearing up again right now

[cloud wadi]

like "the CEO of your company has the right to murder you all if he or she gets bored"

[stoic fjord]

fuuuuck

[vagrant dove]

Me when I kill my employees because I'm bored

[split beacon]

Only if it’s an Oufi-enforced and notarized employment contract

[wild mango]

Does middle ish end up on the charge team?

[split beacon]

Not charge

[wild mango]

Probs not?

[cloud wadi]

it's not in the contract but everyone knows that's the business tandard

[gentle mulch]

the Ira scene is kinda cheesey but damn if im not crying

[wild mango]

Def on the envy team tho

But I guess for charge it’s still just middle sinc+mersault?

[cloud wadi]

i love that it's SoraDon is orders of magnitude more useful that kiramael

gameplay story integration

lmfao

[vagrant dove]

Speaking of wing ceos

I think we're gonna have to kill hubert at some point

[stoic fjord]

I think it's a bit cheesey but also so fucking sincere and raw at the same time

like. idk.

[vagrant dove]

I do not trust that man

[gentle mulch]

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[vagrant dove]

Why is he buying monoliths

Why does he feel the need to larp as an employee /j

[stoic fjord]

ong

[cosmic gorge]

For purple reasons i put her in

[stoic fjord]

black forest.......

[cosmic gorge]

My charge team is just a purple team

[stoic fjord]

Dante is the Head.......... o

ng

[vagrant dove]

I wonder if three birds lived there

[split beacon]

And call me Geronimo Stilton motherfucker because I’m all up in it

[wild mango]

yeah

[vagrant dove]

But yeah, I'm so excited for when canto 13 drops in two years

[wild mango]

its a spectrum

[vagrant dove]

Who are you Dant

Mysterious ass enby

[wild mango]

whatever you end up with ig

[split beacon]

Call me Wallace because I’m going to the fucking moon for this cheese

[wild mango]

i know poise is split into pierce poise and slash poise

i get the synergies with slash poise, but what are the synergystic units on pierce poise?

[cosmic gorge]

Because its established that kjh is a fucking AK whale i presume that theres a bit of Dokutah in Dant (amnesiac with a bloody past)

[wild mango]

i get the full stop duo

[vagrant dove]

I think they're definitely gonna have to- face the sin- shall we say, of their past self

[split beacon]

Pequod

[wild mango]

OH right

[vagrant dove]

Given that they uh

Were a high ranking member of something

Probably a Wing

[wild mango]

pequod ish does a loooot

[cosmic gorge]

Hong Kong Don

[stoic fjord]

call me charge/envy the way I be on the spectrum

[vagrant dove]

Call me blind obssession the way the hyperfixation's kicking in

[split beacon]

RAAAAGH CALL ME ISHMAEL

JOKE MADE

[vagrant dove]

https://tenor.com/view/ishmael-limbus-company-fishmael-fish-project-moon-gif-6697387173931684495

How i feel listening to canto 9 ost

[split beacon]

Call me Vespa the way I be tryna nibble on my girl tho (I’ll stop I promise)

[vagrant dove]

Can't wait till the head pulls up and hits us with arbiter flow

[vagrant dove]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-limbus-company-dante-dant-gif-13225248380098281169

[split beacon]

God I love that Dante is exactly as gormless and unprepared as book Dante

They don’t know WHAT the fuck is going on and they’re NOT ready

Oh also anyone have a guess what Hear All. Hope All. With These Hands… means

[gentle mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-half-life-3-hope-syringe-half-life-2-gif-4595866055848966717

[vagrant dove]

I do really like their arc from "incompetant manager surrounded by a murder-happy group" to "genuinely good at their job"

[vagrant dove]

Half Life 3 in 2033 trust

The signs are there

Wake up Mr Freeman... wake up and smell the hopium

[gentle mulch]

it'll happen

something will happen

also on the point of outis again i just realized don required a whole pair of shoes to change her persona while outis can just lie to herself so hard she parrys the magic bullet contract

she's HER

outis low diffs carmen

[ebon forge]

https://mangadex.org/chapter/dd7c6b75-0eba-4737-9165-a4ac7353e12f

i feel like this would be a pmoon fan kinda oneshot

[dusty sigil]

Battlepass level 120 gamers

[bronze zephyr]

Wooo

[stray sleet]

Nice

[cloud wadi]

Same

Battlepass 120 achieved

[ebon forge]

[ebon forge]

why the fuck is my blsang loosing 7 sp like every turn

oh.

[bronze zephyr]

Yeah lol Gregor. Does this

[ebon forge]

bwuhhhhhhhhhhhhh wonderlab

[winged shard]

So what now

[neat cedar]

huh?

[winged shard]

What you think what will await us in 10th canto

And future of LCB

[tiny cave]

mersault

[winged shard]

So....

[neat cedar]

genuinely no clue what to expect

except probably another stint of themeatic focus on persecution

[tiny cave]

persecution and not fitting in yeah

[karmic escarp]

it will be peak

[cloud wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/live/DAwZQvtcR_Q?si=ZOPiZNrg_eqHVjJ7 when director decides to randomly stream to talk about a stream he plans on streaming in the future

[wild mango]

No one told me about Pablo

(The lil roach in all of Gregors id arts)

[bronze zephyr]

I love Pablo

[karmic escarp]

pablosweep

nothing more beautiful than playing 'wheres pablo' when a new greg ID drops

[bronze zephyr]

apparently roadmap livestream early to mid feb; skin system still being worked on

[karmic escarp]

oh right forgot about that

actual small indie company doing better on that front than multimillion/billion dollar big fighting game based on their gacha IP, big single player real game based on their gacha IP cygames

[bronze zephyr]

Ooh we’re getting a roguelike auto battle game mode pitch

[gentle mulch]

is this documented or just on stream?

[bronze zephyr]

LMAO I have no idea what it’s referring to

[bronze zephyr]

“It’s like darkest dungeon” lmao

[karmic escarp]

autobattler
L

[gentle mulch]

so just more autobattling than before

sure whatever

im starved of content enough that ill try whatever he puts out

[bronze zephyr]

Same

It’s meant to be fun content to alleviate the eternal MD grind so I’m hoping it’s fun content

[gentle mulch]

honestly

if it was a sorta afk grind for like

idk

2 modules for a level

slightly less efficient than md

ill fucking take it honestly

my complaint with MD is that like

it just gets harder and crazier and you have to actually consider things in a mode that youll be grinding

where my ideal grinding scenario is leave it on and just fuckin do something else

[bronze zephyr]

He said it’ll have a mini BP system
I think

[bronze zephyr]

Yeahyeah fair

[split beacon]

okay but Devyat' Delivery would fuck

[ebon forge]

Thinking about Sinner Job again

She 100% knows Moses

And a different color fixer named something like The Black Pillar, whose story began when the split the Red Sea (of sweepers) one night as a group of people got caught in the night

EGO… I’m not sure tbh

I do know she’d definitely be a Lobotomy EGO: Piscine Mermaid though

And of the Sephiroth… Hokma?

Nevermind.

Index NF or Proxy would work, possibly Messenger

[atomic steeple]

And playing as some low level city dweller on their pokemon journey path in the City as they grow could be fun.

[atomic steeple]

Cute canto 9 art
||https://www.tumblr.com/slappyclappy/806099972748722176/i-had-my-problems-with-the-canto-but-that-didnt||

CatsCantCry

I had my problems with the Canto but that didn't stop me from crying like a baby over it.

-# #limbus company #limbus fanart #ryoshu lcb #sinclair lcb #araya lcb #canto 9 spoilers #limbus company art #dante lcb #unsure if ryoshu is in a state of not remembering or remembering her daughter. I DONT KNOW ANYMORE #It could be funny if Araya showed up endgame as a grown ass woman and Ryoshu is like ?????? #also Dante stop keeping secrets #also I know Ryoshu wouldn't cry like that but the chance is never zero. she may already have but she used her sword to make us forget

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[unique bane]

https://preview.redd.it/one-last-piggyback-ride-v0-n8q3arcoozeg1.png?auto=webp&s=2c8e15ba4ac70d9c0ddb4985ff439bc2bce700f1

😭

[atomic steeple]

I love the artstyle

And Outis' panic ||at the idea of losing memories, likely contributed to by the fact ryoshu forgot her own child.||

[atomic steeple]

https://archiveofourown.org/works/75340026/chapters/196942471

It also seemed to drive engagement, her viewers seemingly gaining a sort of parasocial enjoyment from seeing the two starkly different personalities play off of each other. Don was rather (in)famous in her own right, the two being minor celebrities at this point, so seeing the Blonde Blaze of the East and and the Cold Current of the North bounce off each other seemed to draw many more to her streams, and thus invite more of the anonymous critique she so desired.

An odd side effect of this however did seem to be an incomprehensible exclamation of 'MeurDon' in her chat, a clumsy portmanteau of hers and Don's name that she struggled to see a point behind.

[cloud wadi]

lmao

at Kira realy being dismissive towards Siegfried being discussed as being one of the strongest

"I mean yeah all those propaganda videos look and sound impressive, and the laser arm cannon is cool, but has he actually ever, like, done anything?"

[eternal berry]

Really called the man a featless bum

[atomic steeple]

"He's only hype moments abd aura"

[cloud wadi]

any discussion of the Strongest

must apparently exclude the Red Mist

lmfao

Geburah: "So who's the strongest now?"

Roland: "I'm... I'm looking at her."

Geburah: "Ain't a fixer no more. Listen, whatever, tell me who the strongest is excluding me."

red mist really was just built different

[gentle mulch]

do we know the details surrounding her applying to become the red mist

because currently my impression is that hana was like fuuuck we gotta start paying her right? don't wanna let her randomly fall into the syndicates hands

[atomic steeple]

No

She swore to not go syndicate

She didn't want to stoop to their level

[gentle mulch]

i wonder if hana knew that though

[atomic steeple]

She took up fixer work to protect the people who helped her

[gentle mulch]

and then got robbed then something something --

https://tenor.com/view/red-mist-kali-gebura-library-of-ruina-pm-gif-3082207638802716005

[stoic fjord]

Still absolutely fucking insane to me that this woman manifested E.G.O before the Light was a major thing

[gentle mulch]

my knowledge of her timeline is
kid --> small time fixer --> ??? -->capital h Her

[dusty sigil]

She was a grade 2 before she became the red mist

[gentle mulch]

--> LobCorp

[dusty sigil]

So it’s not like she was small time

She was already an extremely competent fixer

[stoic fjord]

She just skipped grade 1??

[gentle mulch]

"just give her the damn color she's whooping above her pay grade im SCARED"

[dusty sigil]

Look when you’re able to slaughter a dozen proxies single handedly

You might be a bit fast tracked

[gentle mulch]

they gave her the color status to PROTECT people

[stoic fjord]

"Dawg are you seeing this shit just give her the color 😭"

[gentle mulch]

because the publicity means that they'll KNOW when she's HERE

[dusty sigil]

I like to imagine she was officially a grade 1 for a single hour

Aka how long it took her to complete the color fixer test

[gentle mulch]

Listen

powerscale all you want (kiramael)

but

[stoic fjord]

Like. Not even a close fight?

Wait was this before or after prototype mimicry

I assume before

[dusty sigil]

We don’t know the state she was in by the end but we know she did it

[gentle mulch]

very few have faced off against two arbiters and walked away with a kill and a stalemate

[dusty sigil]

I believe after

This was when she was the red mist

[stoic fjord]

Okay still impressive regardless

[dusty sigil]

I mean, it was only the one arbiter

It was also just a dozen claws and an entire lab of breaching abnormalities

[stoic fjord]

No wonder the index receptions were light work with her keypage

[gentle mulch]

weaksauce

[dusty sigil]

It’s canonically she butchers them

[gentle mulch]

unnoteworthy

horizontal slash

[dusty sigil]

I do think it’s really funny that PM is so insistent that Kali was simply her

Every other color we meet in the series is in her shadow

The greatest to ever do it

The red mist

[gentle mulch]

"I am her. I have always been her. I will forever be her"

[dusty sigil]

It’s not even a competition

[stoic fjord]

Even in death, years after her prime

She is still Her

[dusty sigil]

She’s simply the GOAT

[stoic fjord]

No one has come close yet apparently

[dusty sigil]

She genuinely solos the entire verse it’s so funny

[gentle mulch]

I do love characters that are/were definitively uncontested #1 just existing past their prime

[dusty sigil]

We get her prime version in Ruina

And yah

She is the strongest lol

[gentle mulch]

I do hope we get aleph soon

[dusty sigil]

It would be funny to get a mimicry fight that’s fully immune to all damage IDs do

So you have to kill them via status

fuck poise teams

[stoic fjord]

I would argue that some of them would work

Reindeer, for one

a fair amount of the Walp IDs

[dusty sigil]

Oh yah

[stoic fjord]

I would argue most E.G.O IDs in general

though some of them might moreso be red damage so idk

[gentle mulch]

i do want to reach a point where our base sinners become "IDs" that we can alternate too

[stoic fjord]

but also you're not telling me Spicebush does RED damage

[dusty sigil]

Like IDs that are on the mechanical level of 000 IDs but are just, the base sinners?

[gentle mulch]

or I'd love to just play what feels like a modded character

[gentle mulch]

like "This is Sinclair [Sign]. Once you unlock him you get base Sinclair as an ID to level"

[cloud wadi]

limbus style predestination story is actually fairly interesting to me

because we now have like

more than a few hints and evidence

[dusty sigil]

Ohhhh

[cloud wadi]

that limbus company is literally fated to win

[stoic fjord]

fully realized base sinners is in my top 3 things I want

[cloud wadi]

so like

[gentle mulch]

dias stocks upppp

[cloud wadi]

it's easy enough to write a story saying "we can defy the fates"

"The cruel fates can be averted"

whatever

but what if fate literally tells you "you are gonna win, champ, go on and get'em!"

are you still going to say fate doesn't matter?

that things can change?

[gentle mulch]

it's a lot more interesting to have a story about a grimdark setting and God's most favoritest soldiers in da world

[dusty sigil]

this too, is Deltarune

[cloud wadi]

like

fate changing literally entails accepting the possibility that you lose

and to be frank limbus company world literally is predetermined hahaha

[stoic fjord]

losing certain fights says "FATE LOST"

like. the world says this is not an outcome that can happen

[cloud wadi]

although I suppose fate in limbus might work more like morrowind concept of fate

[gentle mulch]

Dante trying to game fate to be like well if we piss these guys off and we're still fated to win we can...

[stoic fjord]

it also seems to not be completely concrete from what we've seen

[faint pivot]

Ikr? Like how the fuck does pal know about the ||Library||??

[gentle mulch]

auuhgghhh more walp please

[dusty sigil]

Also yah, either efflorescence EGO or some other thing specific to the sinner would be sick

[cloud wadi]

base id change for gregor please

[stoic fjord]

I need to see base Yi Sang aura farm

[stoic fjord]

gimme the crystal wings bro they're right there please bro

[faint pivot]

That's the ||seasonal announcer||, imho

[gentle mulch]

i hope the sinners reach a sorta ascended level in roughly the reverse order of the lce power ranks

[dusty sigil]

I know what you mean

[vagrant dove]

Yeah Kali was something else

[dusty sigil]

But it would be really funny if Don became as weak as Yi Sang

Little noodle arms

[gentle mulch]

Quixotito

[stoic fjord]

okay so since we got Sinclair

Yi Sang soon, surely1!!

[vagrant dove]

She was her, she's been her, she will continue to be her

[dusty sigil]

Man I think it’s so goddamn funny that Yi Sang was weaker then a German twink who spent his entire life up to that point in school

Dude spent so long barely eating his muscles atrophied

[vagrant dove]

That's what depression does to you to be fair

[stoic fjord]

listen he spent all his time working with mirror tech and his diet is disastrous

[vagrant dove]

Fuck gubo honestly

[eternal berry]

Less combat ability, which is distinct from just general strength

[stoic fjord]

also he's depressed as shit

[gentle mulch]

I'd want Yi Sang to have a free evade slotted into his first skill slot and then just be yapping the entire time he's barraging people with glass

[vagrant dove]

"I liked you better when you were dead inside and locked in N-Corp's basement"

[atomic steeple]

Dante in skyrim: please let me beat the racist to death

[stoic fjord]

I'm still willing to bet he's weaker than Sinclair

[dusty sigil]

He subsists entirely off of the pills Gubo brought him and a thin vegetable soup

[stoic fjord]

dawg does not got any protein

[gentle mulch]

I want Sinclair to have three futures he pulls from in correspondence to each physical weakness of the target enemy

[faint pivot]

"This skill deals damage directly to SP, with excess becoming damage of a random sin"

SinKing

[dusty sigil]

His next future is one where he wields a bat, Heathcliff is the proudest he’s ever been seen

[stoic fjord]

bro really said "fuck sinking I'll do it myself"

[dusty sigil]

Also chat, if Heathcliff were to manifest EGO

[gentle mulch]

i want puppycliff

[mystic ermine]

Hm.
I think I'll wait

[dusty sigil]

Would y’all think it’d be a completed version of bodysack, or the sword Erlking/Wild Hunt uses?

[dusty sigil]

So true

[mystic ermine]

yes

[faint pivot]

I feel like

The sword wouldn't fit Heath

[dusty sigil]

Same

[faint pivot]

The sword is a sign of defiance, a refusal to let go of the fight and until the bitter end

[gentle mulch]

Dog Form that uses [Rule of the Pack] to draw out an Assist attack based on the lowest owned EGO resource

EGO not as a desparate lonely wolf but a loved doggy dog

[faint pivot]

We need Heath in a managerial role, we KNOW he has the chops for it

[gentle mulch]

Like

[dusty sigil]

Unironically Heathcliff’s EGO ID being a tank support ID would be kinda peak

[gentle mulch]

I want LCB base sinners to end up with genuinely bullshit mechanics

i love my man Heathcliff he's everything i have

[dusty sigil]

Chat, ish manifested EGO that gives her a harpoon attached to her arm like Queequeg and Ahab

Gives poise and charge to all allies constantly

[gentle mulch]

Ishmael's [Journey over Destination] which causes her to gain buffs over the course of battle by default

[stoic fjord]

I need this

[gentle mulch]

Faust's [Faith in the Unknown] which ironically is a gambling based passive with huge payoffs

[gentle mulch]

i want puppy heathcliff so fucking bad like that's just my sleepy ass favorite british guy

[stoic fjord]

I feel like Rodion would be the one with the least RNG

she's a gambler, sure, but also she's genuinely incapable of losing wagers based on chance

[gentle mulch]

Rodion [It Was Never A Game of Chance] as she has an active player-parry system to force a change onto the last coin of a clash or attack

[faint pivot]

She's reverse potential woman

[lean fjord]

Rodion getting that one buff from the Tingtang Gang Leader that forces all coins to flip heads 😛

[gentle mulch]

Hong Lu just gets like

a full on DMC5 stance system

[mystic ermine]

Fancy eye youv'e got there.
-# canto 9 spoilers

[gentle mulch]

you love to see it

[stoic fjord]

in which KoDya trivializes most things as she is wont to do

[mystic ermine]

L.M.A.O
-# turns out fixing your ||minimum hp to 10|| is quite good for a skill with ||on-kill|| effects

[dusty sigil]

Chat, I’m looking at those sprite edits for the sinners efflorescenced EGOs, chat, chat was Ryoshu’s seasonal EGO revealed as trichiliocosm themed by then?

[stoic fjord]

...

this was the month I started playing the game

[cosmic gorge]

not yet

[stoic fjord]

so I don't think so?

[mystic ermine]

oho, the hands are very much so similar to her corrosion

and no, no it wasn't

[stoic fjord]

wait

"Three Thousand Worlds"

[dusty sigil]

Oh my god

What did they know?

[mystic ermine]

Also
Am I allowed to think of her as strong as ||Kalo|| was? is?

[stoic fjord]

is bro a prophet or does he just know something from the book we don't

[cloud wadi]

she was probably stronger tbh

[stoic fjord]

what charlie said, likely stronger

[cloud wadi]

no but it's probably not as crazy of a coincidence as you might think haha

[mystic ermine]

Oho

[cloud wadi]

Three Thousand Worlds is a pretty common concept

[dusty sigil]

Oh?

[dusty sigil]

Ohhhhh

[mystic ermine]

...I wonder where the ||Roach Emperor|| would have ranked

[cloud wadi]

it shows up a lot

in a lot of media

even One Piece

[mystic ermine]

Late SotC

?

[dusty sigil]

Oh I know it’s a decently common concept

[unique bane]

huh, i haven't heard of it
i read all of one piece but i must have missed it

[dusty sigil]

I just think it’s funny he applied it to specifically Ryoshu

Way before her seasonal EGO was revealed

[cloud wadi]

yeah haha

[vagrant dove]

Scorn not the prophecy

[atomic steeple]

Man, the final fight of canto 9 gets better the more I think about it or see fanworks

[dusty sigil]

Speaking of btw, I adore Ryoshu’s seasonal EGO

It’s so goddamn cool

That’s kinda a given by now but especially this one

I think it’s my favorite

Yi Sang’s version also rules

[atomic steeple]

Yi sang''s version implies burn sinking team, which I'm excited for

Or a general "ways to get damage from sinking"

I also like the egos and abno thematically

[dusty sigil]

FACT: ACS got height augmentations to convince his friends he was still growing

[dusty sigil]

Also I just realized

The new league of nine only has eight members