#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.
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Udjag outis will also be good in a generic combat sinking team
Don't
2.1k lunacy, 20 tickets
Don’t gamble
alright, well
Save up for walpurgisncht
You can grind and/or you can wait for events
Get shards from mirror dungeons and event rewards
We should be getting one in like 3 weeks from my estimate
Maybe 2 weeks
KJH drop the roadmap I beg
alright, wait, so
SL Yi Sang, Index Don, Index Faust, SSWT Rodion, Edgar Ish - sinking
FS Hongler, FS Heath, Index Don, Index Faust, Edgar Ish
so
right?
Yuppers
SSWT?
and apparently, even counting to five two times is hard
Everyone else is for passives you want
Sword sharpened with tears
sword sharpened with tears
KoDya
I’m used to just kod
...It's the sword sharpened with tears....
It's the E.G.O of KoD
And it portmanteaus nicely into Rodion
Thus, KoDion/KoDya
It's like how it's QoHote or MaDonka
Though Madonka is in reference to magical madoka iirc rather than anything in-universe
I also see SL Sang as Butterfly Sang
Butterfly sinking vs. Deluge sinking is another thing I hear, with regards to the debate of SL or Spicebush
Which, SL is probably objectively better but funny big numbers
if im running an echos team id probably run spicebush
but thats a kod echos team
wifi nuke
I run SL Sang even in MD ngl
but sl is more fun
He ends up being my best clasher besides KoDya every time
I use him because I dont have spicebush and because DIND IND DIN DONG DUING DINON DOND IDNGIND ING
I never got spicebush either lol
then again, since you can go like, 99/99 by turn 2, you can kinda just deluge every fucking turn
Still really love the implication that if it wasn’t for the sabotage
also Sheut Fracture
Udjats would have had no problem wiping the floor with a star of the city level threat
Sheut Fracture kinda great
Yeah
Destroy All Abnormalities
is this good though
Since most sinking and tremor team have both gloom and sloth
so udjat outis is solidly sotc?
which Bygone Days is this
no lol
It’s actually a LOT of bonus damage
ishy
There were like
Has Kjh ever mentioned UT/TS 5?
Grade 3 fixers minimum
yeah full udjat team would be actually horrifying
All equipped with state of the art experimental gear
running 12 udjat outis ids
imagine they werent so conservative with ammo
the Udjat Vanguard are scary
If they weren’t conservative with ammo we’d just get the rabbit team
Downsizing apparently hit rabbits hard
they show up with the best gear, heavy weaponry, specialized ammo, proper coordination as a team, Eye of Udjat tactical vision
etc.
they're scary bastards
Or else hearhcliff would probably also be carrying five spare mags
they go full auto on Rien
in Udjat Outis's story
oh lmao based asf
man gets mag dumped by like 10-20 Udjat Vanguard mean motherfuckers and is like I GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE
DIAS SET ME UP DAWG MY ASS IS GRASS
Index panic deploys proselytes to help him out even
tbf, in Ruina, with no guns, and just like, some kinda staff, they were an SotC general reception
so
with like
Somehow proselyted just all start swarming out of the woodworks to beeline the nursefsther’s location either to terminate him for prescript failure or in some bid to restore the flow
a bunch of them? with automatic rifles?
Yeah their threat level is probably slightly lower than rabbit team
Who were scary mofos
I assume the LCA Udjat Vanguard are probably some of Limbus's strongest forces
at the same time
who the fuck knows what Dias has in stock
man imagine being Rien
and Dias calls you on the phone
and goes "cmon in water's fine"
"I cleared the path for you and everything"
I feel like
Outis just really has a talent
For laughing in the face of fate
And seizing victory from certain defeat
tbf, that part is on Outis in that mirror world 😛
Outis paranoia checking their gear and swapping it out for functional ones again
Who would recheck literally every equipment after an inspection
And she does it under Dias’ nose too
Without anyone catching on that’s what she’s doing
DIAS, YOU DOUBLE CROSSED ME DIAS
theory: outis is conniving and secretive but solely in service of making sure her assigned mission goes well
And gives Dias enough of a grace to pretend as if nothing happened
Like Dias knows outis knows Dias tried to fuck her
"Rien, can you read me? It's nothing personal. Blame it on the accident of your Prescripts. Aha, hahahah...!"
"how about we both pretend this never happened"
“Really, if your prescript didn’t see this coming, could you have relied upon it ever?”
But yeah it does seem like
does odysseyus do any outsmarting of gods in the odyssey
Outis just has a habit of cheating death
She cheats death
It’s more like
Poseidon really wants to kill Odysseus
less outsmarting gods
more failing to get killed repeatedly despite the gods putting some bullshit in his way
Odysseus doesn't really succeed so much as he doesn't die
But he survives everything they throw at him
it's a trainwreck journey where everything goes wrong and he's the sole survivor
but like
He lives where he should have died so many times
the fact that he doesn't die is kind of mindbending
Has outis died in like
Any of her mirror worlds
Oh right
Butler outis
10000% dead
haaahhh
it would be funny and in-keeping if Butler Outis managed to not die because she knew what was coming and said "fuck that, you can't collect on my butler contract's collateral after the wolf kills you all"
and just skipped town
Methinks butler outis has drank too deep from the rivers to be sensible
She might be a little zwoinked
serial nugget murderer outis is doing her job just fine
I love that you instantly knew which outis I’m talking about from that description lmao
she's doing exactly as instructed
6 limbillion color fixers
the manager assigned her the E.G.O, no?
"just one more color fixer and I'll stop"
I’m sure she has more color fixers in her payroll
fuckin rainbow squad
Who’s the orange fixer
pride flag of fixers
Most lustful fixer alive
mos-
Oh no
Nightmare scenario
Don becomes the orange fixer
And she insists on pronouncing orange the way she does
#lobotomycorporation #libraryofruina #limbuscompany
arr ange
on her way to collect the full set
whoever replaced Argalia will be hired by her trust
Played the index rental team. Focused on sinking: got all sinking fusion gifts, plus lucky pouch for poise
It's very funny when an enemy is kept in panic due to 99 potency
Huh, game froze?
Oh, oof for my cheevos
bah im just gonna get the 69 boxes i need for kiramael then save like 800 boxes for allegory and regret, etc
i dont want to build tremor i just need to clear walpipi
I have enough boxes to get the rodya shards for sanguine desire
i am saving my boxes for walpipi and the ryoshu seasonal id
I should be able to build up for either madonka or indon
Yeah, eager for that one too
bp400 this week
From @ badatthings_
lmfaooo
he'd grow even taller if the blue smoke didn't stunt his growth
gotta avert the second world war
so Sinclair can become Lankclair
Can't believe he ||grew up to look like edward elric||
I can
I wonder which sinners are gonna get ring IDs
would have been even funnier ifnthey kept his height the same
Cos maybe the Callisto/albina duo unseats the kk duo? And then you’d throw ringsang in at that point
Idk
So, what are the best sinking units?
Kodya >>>>>>> Solemn Yi sang, Wildhunt, maybe spicebrush, LCA outis> butler squad
I’d guess manager don, princess rodi, prince mersault, whoever Callisto is, whoever albina is, and ringsang if the Callisto id gives buffs to all ring units?
And a flex slot, probs defaulting to priest Gregor for empowered s1 on manager don?
So the index folks don't get a spot
No I do think they do. It def depends on what you want personally
The index folks arent like super great at maintaining a big stack
but they have a lot of damage and utility
Minus SP KoDya and Butler Outis are probably enough to make any sinking team maintain count
but it does mean not having Udjat
I am for example running this. It does hurt to not have a wildhunt in the main team so I am flipflopping a bit
Hm. Anyway, guess I should build up outis shards. For butler or udjat
I'd like to build up until ryoshu's seasonal to see what I need for her, but unsure I'd wait this long
The Index IDs are in fact bad at running Sinking
they have monster damage and great Poise numbers though
Maintaining count only matters for Sinking if you're fishing for a Spicebush nuke and like
I would not in the big 2026
ye
the only other sinking stack fight is if you wanna like 3 turn emptiness in railroad 1 because for that you need the butlers
oh yeah if you need to speedrun erasing Abnos from the game it's real
Why not?
this is just personaly experience, i don't have the index peeps
not super needed
if u have fun amamging the stack for big yi samg explosion that is.fun
but funny number is the main deal there
and spice brush does have issues with clashing vs more modern foes
realizing that I lowkey kinda got the limbus Sloth thing going on in that every decision I've ever made is largely based on what others want/expect of me or what I think they expect of me
rather than anything i want or desire
and I simply allow the metaphorical tides of others pull me wherever they may drift
because I entirely lack direction
I kinda hope bad end ryoshu is burn sinking
I have a sloth S3, a sloth S2, and a gloom S1 on god
seems unlikely, given the ego
butnwho knows
Oh, so that's why he went from being a helpful unit to getting wrecked as I advanced
Thought I just messed up using him
The big ego for Heath's was a tremor ego
Ok place your bets who’s getting Callisto/albina
ye, his numbers are just a bit low
and i honestly
cannot guess
those two are weird and hard to place
At the end of the canto, I got strong sinking themes ||specially from rien's speech||
Plus the precedent of dieci with sinking and forgeting
Such is life. Advice: stressing about it makes things harder
I'd say I fit gloom well lol.
I guess
but also I like
actually opened up about it for once
and now shit is real awkward after I lowkey admitted I got the hong lu shit going on and genuinely do not care about life as it exists and have little to no attachment internally to the world around me
it's whatever I have weeklies to collect
Spicebush Sang clashes at 9/16/18, and 9/19/18 with all his conditionals 💀
the lack of conditional coin power and very little utility beyond his skill 3 means spicebush yi sang is just not cooking on a lot of Sinking teams, he ain't even doing great for actually applying the status
Lmao the guy with the highest damage ceiling is not meta
meanwhile you have Solemn Lament Yisang whose damage output is not a theory and is real good AND doesn't clash like complete ass, and presumably Rien Sang to threaten his seat soon
Spicebush does the funny nuke and very little else
his S1 in particular is just really bad, yeah
doing the Sinking Deluge nuke is very funny every once in a while
No other unit has sinking deluge as a favor to spicebush
my assumption is that Rien Sang vs. SL Sang will be the new hundred years war of "are they sidegrades or is one better"
and I highly doubt we're gonna ever get Deluge again tbh
Deluge can only come back as an EGO and it would have to be on a fucked up conditional
I feel like on an EGO it would be more abusable tbh
I can only imagine Rien sang will have a new sinking gimmick
Because otherwise he’s immediately dead in the water
because then you have it more on demand, and not tied to an ID
There’s no way limbus gives him the same fate as Dieci Yi Sang
ehhhh, not necessarily?
He’s a major canto boss
I mean without deluge or SL, sinking doesn’t actually do much vs bosses that have SP
I mean, Rien Sang will also be a Soise unit without a doubt
he'd probably be super fucking boring but not necessarily dead without a unique sinking thing
I won't say DOA necessarily
but if we do get Rien YS, he will need to be pretty damn good to compete with SL in Sinking yes
...doesn't it do gloom damage if the enemy doesn't have SP
They lower their clashes yah but like, you already should be able to clash well just with high SP
with the Prescript gimmick as well, and probably something terrifying when he Unlcks
mostly just because of how critical butterfly is
Yah but I’m talking about enemies with SP
Which are the majority rn
No
Yah no the second they’re at -45 SP sinking does nothing on its own
the point of butterfly sang is that he applies an effect that causes damage when you do Sinking hits
Butterfly is absolutely necessary to deal damage to bosses with SP
It’s only use then is to empower butterflies or be used in deluge
giving Sinking as a team a means of increasing their damage, making the Sinking status deadly as well as dangerous
but we'll see
Yah, and rn the only other source of butterflies is SL Gregor
Which is a great EGO no doubt
if Rien Sang is to replace SL Sang as a Sinking unit he would need to bring something else to bear, because SL Sang isn't just a good Sinking unit
But like, isn’t the best for applying butterflies
he's integral for making Sinking work
It only applies like, 4 on the same turn
6 trillion year dynasty of Yi Sang carrying sinking damage /hj
So Gregor both needs to go first and doesn’t apply as much as SL Yi sang when he does
how is Index Don for pure Sinking btw?
bad
too manynattacks i imaginr
figured
They’re calling him the most depressed Korean to ever live
the Index IDs are Poise first with some Sinking on the side
index units aren't really super sinkin - yeah
which is why
ye, ifnwe're going of the boss fight
I think Rien Sang, if we get the ID because I don't know if Nursefathers are a sure thing, will be a Poise-first unit with Sinking application as a side thing who focuses on Unlocking and doing stupid shit with his Caduceus
he's going to prob do some fucked dmg.tyoe shenanigans
the damage type shenanigans on a player ID would be funky
inb4 it's like a more complicated version
of hanafuda ish
Index probably supercedes Blade Lineage yes
does index spec pride?
Alternatively, we finally get the new version of sinking, blue poise
yes
We’re doing tremor type for poise now
lol
If it brought tremor out from struggling to the strongest status it can do the same for poise
Index is Pride-X-Gloom, with InFaust having Sloth and InDon having Lust
i'm.jist glad
they've made do more dmg on crit
a status
qe just need an ego that can spread that around
On Crit is a good keyword that Poise deserves
mhmm
I imagine Rien will either be Gluttony or Wrath
Actually I check his fight again
Rien? Definitely Gluttony or Wrath
he is not particuoarly driven to spread his ideals outside the prescripts
Dude has a lot of gluttony
And no lust
I could see a Rien Sang that's Glut-Pride-Gloom
yeah i see that too
Still, I think it’ll probably be wrath just because temu furioso is absolutely his skill 3
Or skill 3-2
also i saw something thats like
we are not getting temu furiso
nah it'll be like Hanafuda Ishmael
sin spreads are "most outwardly visible" to "the true root of it"
ain't no way
wait that's not confirmed?
I believe in Temu Furioso
if we were to use Furioso Replica, it would be a Skill 4 we have no control over
i dont think sins are confirmed
I am so close to my index plus fullstop team that i wanna run
im almost certain it'll be no more than 7 coins
nothing in game.confirms it, no
just a commonly.heald belief/theory
soon I can do a poise team without BL lesgo
gotcha
but ngl
I've been doing that
lei sault
Hungry Ishmael
I believe W Don with 6
5+1 is piss without modifiers
Hungry Hungry Ishmael can flip like 8 coins
just showing her skill is all
ohhhh ok
oh also gun greg
yeah multi coin skills are
usually verynshitty
she's theoretically infinite iirc
I really love the 5 rupture if you flip heads on the final coin
ifnu don't meet conditionals
Season 1 IDs are so funny
i like it cuz it makes chargerupture work better
I'll grant spicebush that: you can set up his nuke in an earlier phase then try to skip harder phases in a boss
R heath withbquickmsupression be like
god
fuckin quick suprression
Solemn Lament can also flip 8 coins
what a skill of all.time
so I think that's the absolute max
ye, it's whynthey've swapped to
anyways hungry don, assuming 1 hp, has a maximum potential of 8 coins outside of md shenangins
hundred years war
Bankai!
what
do we count wingbeat gambling here?
and a lot less likely to get out of control
Bleach joke
we did ye
ok
as fra as like absolute max
oh overlooked that then mb!
where at exactly 62 bleed, she has functionally infinite coins
wingbeat is 7 coin
aleph feels somewhat likely ngl
yeah the thing is
all WAWs
it let a level 45 agent outclash a level... 85???
two waws and a zayin
I think 83
wait what was the Zayin
punishing bird
||Lamp, Diffraction... what's the third?||
Ohhhhhhh
I mean I guess but I feel like that doesn't exactly mean an ALEPH is equal to 2 WAWs and a TETH
that also.wasn't my meaning
my meaning is "Apoc bird may be on the horizon"
looks at the massive population drop in a few months
whatever's happening
yyyyyyyeeeeerrrrp
we're fried
so cooked we're burnt
everything at once would be so fucking funny ngl
welcome to hell
I imagine we'll see a new ALEPH original to Limbus before anything Lob Corp though
yeah i feel that makes more sense
agreed
TS 5 yes but only for specific EGO (which ones has not been said yet)
i wish certain sinclair has ts5 branch
Instead of releasing stuff to replace it
more worried about even more thread cost tho
Why do they have the 3 daily bonuses system
Why can't it just be set at the "doubled" value
This guide says that priest Gregor is not worth using and idk if that’s wack or not https://youtu.be/PFs9K7WKUJY?si=J53M8eMgiJTVTADT
Make sure to check out Snow • Fall! https://store.steampowered.com/app/3463910/Snow_o_Fall/
Avenir's video on Bloodfeast interactions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mXT0nCZa3I
In this video I go over the Bleed team, an extremely powerful and fun composition in Limbus Company. I mainly focus on the 8 best Identities that you should be usin...
Unlikely, but he could amplify sinking application by index units
That would surprise me at least, but it's possible
Same reason why Ruina burns your books on loss ig
Priest is mainly there to be tanky af, heal a bunch, and be a bloodfeast battery for your other bloodfiends
And as much as I love my tanks I doubt the sentiment's shared
I wish people stopped saying it as fact
aiui he's basically the startup for your bloodfeast and it's harder to play without him
but idk if people found a better alternative or smth
Does Hemorrhage consumption make bloodfeast?
If you can get a stack up fast and maintain it, you don't strictly need him I guess
It shouldn't I think
Then yes Pregor has uses
KK Ish creates bloodfeast because it just triggers the Bleed directly
I should level my bleed team actually
Haven't used it in a bit
He says that with enough potency generation you don’t need him as a blood feast battery
Like kk heath
That’s what he’s saying not me
Hemorrhage is good? Thought it was bad?
LoR SotC ||Does anyone remember why we're able to fight Prime Red Mist or something||
using priest greg wrong a little
it's fine
thr combo dmg tremor types are there to make hybrid teams work
and most people compare it it to reverb, which works best in a pure tremor team
I meant due to bleed's count issues
Roland had better have a unique line to seeing RienSang in battle if we ever see him as a combat unit again
Since bleed tremor eats cou t
“Why the fuck does this guy look like me?”
At this stage of limbus
if ur team is already more.bleed.focused
it' not as good
but if ur making a hybrid team
it.does the job
Bleed loses count every clash
Burn every turn
We have circled back around to “just bring enough firepower + damage bonus riders” instead of “it’s all about the count baby”
i am.aware
My pointnis more "it does the job it is meant to do"
i.e. giving you some extra dmg now
is it as good as going full force on bleed gaming?
prob not
Losing the potency you built up won't help much the hemorrhage damage
but it's probably easier to get dmg off it because of how hemmorage scales off both bleed and tremor stacks
While scorch gets to worry less about losing burn potency
Angela used the Light to simulate a copy
Okay
I thought it was early in her career red mist?
Just wanted to explain why I thought it had issues
Comoared to other damage tremors
Hemorrhage is weaker than scorch id say
Because bleed suffers from loss of stack more than burn and bleed has a lot of accelerants otherwise
While burn really did need more acceleration mechanic
It’s not really that hemorrhage is weaker I guess more that
If you are bleed you got better alternatives for converting the count to damage
Bleed doesn't need acceleration as much anyway, since enemies flip a lot of coins
Compared to Burn which ticks once per turn normally
Honestly, didn't know you could even keep bleed stacks in hybrid tremor bleed
Since multiple team members burst
I just have aweshu, though she barely gives tremor count
Next canto will be a bleed canto
we don't even know what this season's status will be yet
Next canto will be charge or tremor
Five Finger Family Song (gone wrong), the canto
||It's cause Angela simulates her using fragments of her that remain||
It's also why ||we only get 4 pages for every book of hers we burn||
Oh oops you were answered already
It's Poise I'd wager
depends on the comp, imagine
bleed has a lot.of.support
Well, sanguine desire must help a lot
Kurokumo duo, bloodfiend sault and rodiya, then nshu and greg
and u got one flex position for tremor
also depends.om.the enemy
Hm
The high amount of unbreakable coins on enemies now has also made things more difficult for bleed
Gonna enter saving up mode
Then see what I grab from walpurgis, then keep saving up for whatever bad end ryoshu wants
There's too much to grab from walpurgis
You really don't need to grab Everything from Walp
albina ID bleed buff plkz
But there's a lot useful
Unless you're going for a Random Bullshit Go team and wanting to make damn sure you win story nodes
That's true
But no pressure
Walp will come again
I'm gonna calculate how much I can grab from walp without dentint my resources much
I grabbed every item from walp even shit i probably wont level like regret fau or phillipclair for the sake of completion dsfnsjdfnds
My walp list
Sanguine desire
Sl don yi sang
Madonka maybe
Same except I wanna level everything cause Regret and Philip are my goats
Sl dou you mean?
Yi sang oops
I’m going to pull probably, as is usual
Did I miss something, was a Walpurgisnacht announced
eh
even still im not pressed fror priest gregor since i have night awls gregor
and i still need to get the kk duo and sangine desire
Don’t think so
Just speculation
https://limbuscompany.wiki.gg/wiki/Jeong's_Office_Rep_Ishmael/Identity_Story
Huh, cool uptie
So everyone cheats in J corp gambling, and it's allowed if you can hide it
oh yeah
also the people of J Corp rely on an invisible "entity" which I think we can now safely assert is a God of the City probably
Gods
Gods everywhere
ok, what the hell is a god of the city?
Yes
More seriously: Gods of the City are beings and systems that are not human but are seemingly permitted by the Head as constellations and accumulations of human desire
Also, Veils keep being mentioned but we never got a deep look into them
for example, the Loom system that the Index uses in Library of Ruina is a God of the City of sorts, providing for the desire for "direction in life"
Kromer tried to become an older sort of god
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
We can finally post albina in doll house
And also that wow we did not like the combat encounters of this canto until, like, the last part of it
Finally 😌
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) We can finally post albina in doll house
She's so adorable and unhinged, it's great
There were some pretty interesting fights in part three. I'm glad they're experimenting
And to mention how this sword, this honor, and this glory won't be tarnished
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Priest is mainly there to be tanky af, heal a bunch, and be a bloodfeast battery for your other bloo…
Anyway, jeong ish has aura
Yeah, love all of the part 3 fights except for the ||first fight against Shiomi||, for some reason that one was just immensely frustrating
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) There were some pretty interesting fights in part three. I'm glad they're experimenting
yeah, my friend struggled with that one
I diagnose the doll with a severe Skill Issue
Unrelated but: ||gods, poor Faust||
|| It's okay Faust, I think you're cool and smart||
||Faust: hey can y'all tell me who sabotage-||
||The entire rest of the Gesellschaft: oh my god, look at this fucking IDIOT. This absolute LOSER. This dumbass shouldn't even be here||
Yi sang: ||Yet, this one is the most wonderful faust, in my opinion||
||And yet our Faust is the most successful of all of them at getting golden boughs 😌||
Hey, why does jeong ish have sinking anyway?
||Also, it’s nice to know that Rien being a knock off version of Roland is flat out canon||
Something something gambling?
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Hey, why does jeong ish have sinking anyway?
This ish sure likes her job
Guess catching cheaters is fun
One day, I'd like to oversee a Blue Diamond game that takes place way up on the top floor. You know, the Diamond games where only the highest of high-rollers get to participate. Sure, a good payday's nice, but... sometimes, it's not all about the money.
It's just that in this business, there's no better acknowledgment of my career than getting called to oversee a game that only employs the best of the best.
Ish truly is a gamer
She's very resigned and fatalistic
not to mention, her job is watching people gamble their hopes and lives away
She dashes the hopes that you're getting away with your tomfoolery
Besides being forceful she also fights oppressively
Crushing hopes and accepting reality is her MO
She's fatalistic?
||the parallels..
But yeah, poor faust honestly. No wonder some of her ids don't want to associate with the Gesselschaft.||
Nope. The card's out in the open... there's no forfeiting once the die is cast. No matter how screwed you are.
I love that the commonality is that they're both curious george ass members of the amateur detective club
I know they both have 7 Assoc. IDs but I need Oufi Association Faust to complete the set
Think about it:
- it would be thematically perfect for her
- we'd get a Tremor ID for Faust in the big 2026 which can end the reign of Maost
Also both of them are pretty intelligent people who ||get looked down upon- Heath by Hindley et al (and the Sinners, sometimes) and Faust by the discord admins. They just differ in how they apply themselves||
if she's fast enough
also Tremor Decay is kinda stonks again after being dog water for a while
Oufi Faust manifesting!!
More oufi lore
Since they didn't actually APPEAR
In canto 6
listen my pitch is simple
what's tremor decay do again
It turns Tremor into a debuff, dropping the target's Defense Level by each 4 Tremor Potency
anyways, my pitch is simple
Also Faust really needs a tremor id that isn't Walp ong
I see, thanks
Oufi Assoc. South Section 3 - Bailiff Faust
she's a speed demon whose job is to run after people and serve papers
She has one of the sickest and most awesome tremor egos too
Fast oufi faust. All about catching up to contract breakers
Speed 10 id
How so?
HYBRIDS
Everlasting looks so cool
Tremor hybrid identities make the debuff Tremor flavors less bad because having a debuff Tremor amplitude applied while you cook is way better than vanilla tremor
can we get an outis burn id next just make her the thumb nursefather fanservice so people complain less that she doesn't interact with dark flame
you still need Tremor for coin conditionals, and you don't want to immediately convert into the damage amplitude until you're stacked
I see
banish this Dark Flame from my sight (jk ily der shooty but we don't need Dark Flame to be the be-all-end-all of Burn accel)
genuinely if nuggetslayer got a talisman tier rework that didn't nerf her into the ground I'd be happy
the fanbase would not be happy about a walpurgisnacht ID being nerfed
or changed in general
logic on this btw: Tremmorhage and Scorch both have the problem of eating count on your other status when triggered, so with a Tremor hybrid team you're at risk of breaking the stack (especially on Bleed holy hell) if you apply your hybrid amplitude early
we could have had deathrite deluge if maost was fixed
this makes Chain and Decay better than they would be otherwise because they do the job of making Tremor a good status effect in the meantime
we could have had peak heishouslop
wait this is cooking
I'm not fucking around
you literally just hit the bricks when it's time for damage
No wonder Fracture's only on one ego (although tbf so is Everlasting)
look Fracture would be good in a universe where it and Time Moratorium were served by the same team
which you can contrive a bit with T Outis and the other T Corp units
but it sucks because the T Corp IDs want to convert into Chain all the time
or I guess just T Don, huh...
every time I play burn I'm tempted to build tremor
and then I look at tremor and remember why I play burn and not tremor
I unfortunately do play tremor
I like the burst noise
But it is also a bit of a headache
Tremor makes excellent sounds
my burn team has both Thumblers
The thumblerrrr
tremor makes good noises yes
praying for a third thumb ID so i can start running Tremburn in MD
boris id down the line TRUST THE PLAN
Frog eye+tier 4 tremor drink+the bell is how i can sometimes win MDE fights
I just have to survive turn 1
please PMoon give me like. Tremporn IDs
Give me freedom
give me fire
give me triple status team or I retire
Speaking of wacky predictions
(other than my boris copium earlier)
Gregor White Night EGO, trust
okay Udjat Vanguard is a fucked status effect lmao
"I have elected to win this clash I should not win"
"Pray I don't do it more"
I love udjat outis
"I see you want to roll this kind of coin. I have decided that this is... unacceptable."
I've been having a lot of fun with InDon and Udjat Outis honestly
The prescripts do know best
Speaking of which
Sora doesn't like blunt trauma or blood or any of those awful things you prescript her! She likes fresh shrimp, garlic, chocolate and making friends and that's that!
Canto 9 spoilers
...Sinking Poise MD performs better if we just shoot Mariachiclair
did something strange happen
I just realized I don't have the regular maintenance compensation Lunacy
oh shit I'm playing in the ephemeral inbetween time
-# u/MichuSkurczybyku
strange how Vespa had no Gluttony skills
ok idea
i feel like future tremor ids should be form switchers somehow
they have their base (perfectly competent)
and an alternative (about the same power)
So you can modeswitch from Apply Tremor to Apply Amplitude?
yes
ideally I would make new Tremor IDs apply their amplitude conversion effect on their defense skill somehow
or with a resonance gimmick
yeah then it just becomes mao-2
i wanted to avoid "defense for boost"
unless its a counter
or something fun like nryo
N Ryo is a whole can of worms
orrrrrr
crazy idea
defense skill that changes effects based on the current skill on it
S1/2? Counter or defense
oh like Shi Faust
but on an S3, it does something real funky
look my opinion is that the ideal simplest Tremor ID mechanic would be a noninterference clause S3 that converts but only if there isn't a flavor already applied
so you can have your Decay or Fracture or Chain tremor but when it's time to lock in, that gets packed up and you just burst the good tremor flavor more instead
yeh thats good for me
oh also food for thought
the Three Beasts of Selva Oscura beat the LCB's fucking brakes off and the contract hadn't been formed yet
T Corp Outis I think does that but she might be the only one idr
they weren't nerfed yet
They were casually walking around and dropping Mang on us though, weren't they?
so that wasn't a lv1 goo goo ga ga LCB Sinner Ryoshu, that was lv75 fuck shit up assassin Ryoshu
yi sang was level -400 lol
The ranking is Don-Outis-Ryo for 123
but that's taking Don's superpowers into account
But that was after Hohenheim decided to fuck around and nearly found out
Yeah
Lowkey him being passively suicidal probably contributed to that happening if I had to guess
Like "well if it goes catastrophically wrong, at least I die for science"
man, hohenheim is literally potential yaoi
The only potential in it is that his assistants keep saying he should live instead
2 strictly speaking
I do think its a hilarious that the more we learn about the stronger Sinners the more it is kinda revealed just how fricking weak Yi sang was
level -400-ass sinner
Alyssa is not male and was just trying to kill the Ring bastards, and Heathcliff was mostly echoing his traumas back to him to get through the Monolith distortion
Well, I can't argue with that
Insightful
Sheut fracture is a cool status
Do we know what target extraction it’s gonna be?
nnnnnnnnuh uh
Oh nom nom nom
Ok
Do you think she calls Aeng-Du and Kim by other nicknames and only calls Vespa "junior?"
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) -# u/MichuSkurczybyku
strange how Vespa had no Gluttony skills 📎
100%
it is ENTIRELY about flaming Vespa
That said, I think she was also 100% genuine about thinking that "The Yellow Harpoon" was a good color name
never let Ezra name anything every again
The Yellow Junior
his name is literally vespa he should've 100% been named something to do with that sort of thing
and like
the harpoon works as a stinger analog too!
exactly!
it was right there!
It is one of the worst possible names tbh
if we wanna go for a pun, The Yellow Jacket works nicely
ok tbh Erza shouldve called him The Yellow Countach
Her wife yuria wasn't there to stop her lmao
as it refers to a species of wasp and also like
his jacket's got yellow on it alright
Btw, I love that ezra's panic references Distortion Detective
The masks ||are her issues, the distortion moses sees, and flares up at times, such as when something induces distortion||
the Yellow Harpoon is the color fixer name with the second least aura
tbh it's why for don i really want her to be named something like "The Golden Dream" or something like that
the one with the absolute least aura is the Red Sack
"Oro Sueno" would go hard
🔥 ✍️
literally just golden dream in spanish
could be they rely on Fortuna
"El Sueño Dorado" is what I'm getting from translate
yeah i was basing off Oro Blanco
at this rate the Golden Bat will be an actual color
ahhhh ok
Lulu color fixer arc would go hard on god
That's white gold, I think
which is like, a fruit
so i thought blanco came first
Golden Bat
ok well I don't care I want Lulu color fixer
Portuguese and Spanish may place adjectives first, but often place it after words
fucking, am I the only one
batman isn't even real
ahem
PARANOIA AGENT MENTIONED
whar
he used to be a pretty big japanese manga character
Golden dream in Portuguese is "Sonho Dourado"
tbf I think they arent like entirely wrong
I fw the skull face
he's got a golden bat...
Ah, it looked familiar
oh neat
Crimson thread, or butterfly
Crimson Butterfly works really well
Rodion would never pass Color examination but she would make Hana Director
you know what I mean?
true
like in the quest to become a Color she'd end up Director of the Hana Association because that's how she is
I agree
I just know she wouldn't be happy in the position anyways or something
maybe something like Cyan Smile or Smirk
that sounds like a horror movie protag
I just don't think there's a world where she's a color ngl
nah she'd be like "no guys it's great..." and put her Color costume away
I believe in her
meursault gets "The Grey Coat"
Rodion is becoming fast my favourite sinner
Gonna be honest, just said crimson butterfly as a reference
get back in her Hana Association director's jacket, casually wearing like seven bazillion Ahn of gear on her at all times
"listen guys as the Director of the Association-"
"YOU CAN'T IT'S BAD BRANDING"
ooh wait don getting nicknamed Naranja as a color would be so fucking fitting
god imagining Rodion in the Hana uniform
where my rodion siegfried id but she is actually Brunhilde
I'm highkey [CENSORED]
you gotta understand, Rodion would be blasting motherfuckers with True Trigram Formation
her Shin: unbreakable
her Mang: five rings
no color because you CAN'T
YOU HAVE A JOB
I like the idea of Rodion as genuinely just fucking GOATed
The Daffodil Page/Cover
not in any particularly special or unique way, she's just the GOAT
that's kind of the trend for her happy IDs is the funny thing
and some of her sad ones
she's outstandingly fucking hench but is profoundly normal at whatever she does
exceptionally competent in the most normal way possible
Distorted Ezra ID for Rodion
The Grade 1 Fixer
her special talent is that she conventionally beats the fuck out of you
yeah, Hana Director, the Fixer
lowkey
not even shin or mang
no E.G.O
no nothing
well I think Rodion has a legit EGO angle
nah nah she'd have shinmang because that's normal now for high tier City combatants and she'd be solid at it
ok true true
fair
they fr just went "yeah sure let's just make this our new norm"
I kinda feel like there's starting to become an oversaturation of it
Like accepting her position as normal while being envious and deeply hurt about it. Could maybe be like a mimicry esque ego where she yoinks the things that make others special or "pulls" others down to being "normal" like her
at the same time it's actually not been as common as I immediately think
we'll see it less until it's time for more bigwig tough bastard fights
I imagine we'll see very little of it when we face Corps
Rip to all the homies wo wanted to go to Q. It is indeed not the time yet
anyways the other reason Hana Director / Hana Section 1 is fitting for Rodion as her "ultimate" ID is that she would see the logic that the City and its systems are bad, but killing Impurities and Stars that have gone too far helps the little guy on the street
60,000 people are dead because of a Distortion? Forward march, we're going in and caving the fucker's skull in
actually, had a thought, @cloud wadi does the Yellow Harpoon sound closer to a bee or wasp related pun in the Korean?
cause I know the Red Gaze is a thing in Korean, homophonous for "honored poet"
how would you make a Hana Director Rodion ID
oh easy
like, what gimmicks, what statuses, etc.
Hana For All and All For Hana, she buffs the entire team
mhm, makes sense
she gets a cool nanomachine coat like Absolute Superman
All For Hana was a very fun passive
and when you amass all the buffs from her passive or whatever, her Skill 3 becomes True Trigram Formation: Mang of Eternal Longing and she Rodions all over them
I think it'd be fitting for her animations to be like
cool, but also fairly basic/simple in their fundamentals
well we know what the Hana Association's style is
true
they crush you with simple, extremely effective and direct attacks using their nanomachine spears to coat their bodies as well as to project their physical attacks forward
The Hana can't not be cool because transforming nanite weapons are just really cool
no fancy bullshit she just sends a spear through you at mach fuck with 5 mang rings around it to instantly vaporize you
I am not like the hugest fan of the literal SK flag trigrams being on them
no funny business, on and off the court straight fundamentals
ok fuck now i really want Hana Rodion and hope mr director KJH has the same future plans
to some extent
man I forget how many zwei ids we already have and how meh I feel about them all other then zwei ish
I kinda fw zweigor just because I think he looks cool
but yeah a lot of them are underwhelming
the non-knights zwei lacked visual and mechanical identities
Zwei Gregor is decent at least
ye I want more like higher end zwei
but tbf we havent really dove into any assoc other then liu via ids
Unfortunately they were made before good ID design was invented 😔
More Seven could also be neat
six sevennnnn
get her ass
More assoc stuff also in story would be dope
no
we only really had the beginning of canto 7 for it (unless i am forgetting something)
it's a lame name even in korean
honestly? excellent stuff then by the EN translators
see right now I'm slurping up the delicious Finger Syndicates food
tru tru
I am marked as Impuritas and instantly killed by Hana
I think Yellow Harpoon is solidly Fine™ as a name tbh
it's just got no sauce
like
I am curious why harpoon and not stinger cmon ezra!
because he's got a harpoon
Yeah it would have been better if it was like, the Yellow Stinger or something
But it's okay
but as long as we never go full Heishou again I'm down to explore whatever
Exactly, it is so easy to make a good color name out of Vespa with Yellow
sorry but I've been brought by degrees to wield the Devil's sword, Canto 9 changed my mind
but Ezra named it
I do not like when we go all one faction
I am still fine with the heishou thing altough some indigo guard units would have been cool for sure
The Black Silence? Aura.
The Blue Reverberation? Aura.
The Red Mist? Aura.
The Red Gaze? Aura.
The Red Sack? Worse than the Yellow Harpoon.
The Indigo Elder? Aura.
The Chartreuse Maiden? ehhhh it's pretty good I guess but it's not amazing
The Vermillion Cross? Aura.
actually yeah I rescind my prior statement with further consideration
||The Green Deliverance is also aura||
bad clickbait shorts title: Did Project Moon get away with breaking the GENEVA CONVENTIONS?!
||because of the strict rules about using the Red Cross or its symbolism||
vermillion isn't red so we're fine
I have bad news Juniper
def sucked at the moment but I do feel we got the most interesting lore out of them since I do think the heishous and how they work were the most interesting thing about h corp, that said we kinda learned nothing rly about their singularity which we could have via some noble ids for sure
so
there's apparently
a Kabbalah for dummies
i was looking for quotes to use lmao
That's T Outie
Woops missed that you got replied to
I'd prefer this over oversaturation of EGO tbh
We could do with more distortions though