Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[neat cedar]

mhmm

Greg as odin i can see

[split beacon]

wisdom of all worlds

[neat cedar]

i just mean that

Hermann's plans for him

[split beacon]

in order to complete the primordial man

[neat cedar]

might be nidhogg adjacent

whether or not that is like

his end goal

narratively

i'm less certain

[cloud wadi]

he'll be Leviathan

[neat cedar]

not to mention the mention of istletoe

once again

we're going ot be close to salvation

[split beacon]

lol the fucking mistletoe bud from the tree

[neat cedar]

AND SOMEONE"S GONNA FUCK IT UP

EVERY FUCKING TIME

[neat cedar]

IT"S THE SAME STORY KJH

[cloud wadi]

he's a king who wears a cloak made of tiny swarming things

[neat cedar]

yeee

[vagrant dove]

Can't believe Vergilius will say "This truly was our leviathan" before sacrificing himself to defeat Primordial Gregor

[cloud wadi]

that's strikingly similar to the image of the Leviathan in Hobbs Leviathan

[neat cedar]

i love games that make me wish i was a classics major

drive me fuckin insane everytime

[vagrant dove]

I do classics and I'm not through with the PM reading list

[cloud wadi]

i think his true form is supposed to be much much much much bigger

[neat cedar]

i can believe it

[cloud wadi]

when he fully unwraps his gift he'll be a giant towering over the city

you can see it in his intro art actually

[neat cedar]

https://limbuscompany.wiki.gg/images/thumb/Gregor_Poster_Original.png/320px-Gregor_Poster_Original.png?42d299

[neat cedar]

. . .

[cloud wadi]

yeah

[neat cedar]

oh

oh you can

[worthy haven]

where you at atm

[cloud wadi]

he's as tall as the City

with tiny men in the shape of roaches scurrying at his feet

in his Fathoms you can also see titanic G Corp war forms towering over buildings in the background

[vagrant dove]

Most pertinently I need to do Dream of the Red Chamber and Faust for the main Sinner stuff, and I have various other stuff to get my hands on

[worthy haven]

hmhm

[vagrant dove]

(Like more Jung)

[neat cedar]

the only booki've read is hellscreen

which honestly

really glad I did

def put me in the proper frame of mind

[worthy haven]

damm those be two BOOKS

[neat cedar]

for interacting with canto 9

[vagrant dove]

I like long books honestly

[neat cedar]

will prob try to read the stranger before canto 10

[worthy haven]

echoing my sentiment about how fucking whacky and exhausting Faust part 2 can be

[neat cedar]

I just don't have as much time as i used to

[worthy haven]

but its def worth it

[neat cedar]

if i was still in high school

i'd prob def be trying to read through the whole PM classics list

[worthy haven]

I will def get to it once i have am more downtime

[neat cedar]

the book i'm both

interested in

and scared to read

is demian

[worthy haven]

Hermann Hesse you freak (affectionate?)

[neat cedar]

mainly because everything about demian makes it sound like a very yeah

that

[cloud wadi]

herr man

[vagrant dove]

He who wishes to freak (affectionate) must first write Demian or something

[cloud wadi]

The Man

[cloud wadi]

we are fighting The Man next canto

[neat cedar]

i wish I could say I'm sorry for spreading my mental corrsion to you hero

but I am not

more need to have this brain bug

hehe

brain bug

[vagrant dove]

I mean we are probably going to be dealing with Society (as in Meursault's alienation from the world around him), so we are literally fighting the Man

[karmic escarp]

eheh

[cloud wadi]

let's stab gregor to daeth with axes

[vagrant dove]

From a certain point of view

[karmic escarp]

lets be really niceys to gregor 🥺

[worthy haven]

petition for Mersaults ego moment to be Armor clad faith /j

[vagrant dove]

Also I do want to see Meursault's canto because uh

Autistic

[worthy haven]

SOCIETY

[vagrant dove]

So I resonate heavily with a lot of his behaviour THAT ISN'T THE MURDER

[worthy haven]

I am really curious about that ye

[vagrant dove]

To be clear

[worthy haven]

since his communication style is so unique amongst the sinners

[vagrant dove]

"Wants clear and concise commands, requiring no judgement on his part."

Me too, man

[split beacon]

To: Charlie
When hacking through the ribs with a hatchet, Stab the Silence's Heart, Penetrate the Memory (3 + 3x4)

[vagrant dove]

The Prescript Knows Best

[karmic escarp]

it's overwhelmingly his left eye

[neat cedar]

the opposite side of his arm

||the one that rodya saw humanity in||

[vagrant dove]

I'm inclined to think it isn't a fluke

[neat cedar]

it's def not a fluke

[vagrant dove]

Hong Lu has the stomach thing with his ego

[neat cedar]

but what it could mean is still

very unclear

[cloud wadi]

I love Rien complaining baout being told to stab someone to death with a fucking axe

[neat cedar]

i like my theory but i'm also very less scertain of it since we now have actual like, gods of the city

[cloud wadi]

"How do I stab someone to death with a hatchet"

[neat cedar]

honestly, i would too

[split beacon]

It's barely a weapon, but it's better than a fork

[neat cedar]

better than a fpoon

[vagrant dove]

Fpoon or spork, cast your votes now

[cloud wadi]

apparently hermes really liked the john wick trilogy

he should find it fortunate it did not tell him to kill 3 people with a pencil

[vagrant dove]

"I once saw Roland kill 3 middle brothers with a fork."

"A fucking- fork."

-Hermes, probably

[cloud wadi]

I love that Rien intentionally held off on fulfilling that prescript until the very end of the deadline because he really really desperately was hoping Hermes would give him a better tool than a fork

[dusty sigil]

Best part is that it started as a knife

Dude delayed so Hermes decided to play a prank and change it to a knife

[stoic fjord]

there's 4 movies, though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KaEKEVHZ0I

he's getting his shit ran by the base IDs...

[dusty sigil]

Honestly it’s awesome how the will of the city seemed to have a sense of humor when it came to Rien lol

The thing pranked him pretty much

Multiple times

[vagrant dove]

No wonder he recited O Fortuna honestly

[stoic fjord]

simultaneously awesome and deeply depressing

[karmic escarp]

the favor of a god is a fickle thing, after all...

[neat cedar]

yerp

to be loved by the gods is to be doomed

[karmic escarp]

also saw something on odin's wikipedia page trying to figure out which eye he lost (unspecified unfortunately) that made me feel insane but there was no direct link to the source sited

[neat cedar]

source: LITERALLY EVERY GREEK MYTH

[karmic escarp]

and i have no idea how PM sources its reading stuff for concepting

[cosmic gorge]

I have an idea

[karmic escarp]

so it probably means literally nothing
but

[vagrant dove]

To be fair, Odysseus is Athena's favourite and that really saves his bacon

[cosmic gorge]

Canto 11 ||outis euthanizes Greg/Polyphemus temporarily, this kills the kaiseroach and Zeus/Hermann retaliates by attacking Outis' family||

[vagrant dove]

It would be poseidon as hermann in this analogy, since polyphemus calls on poseidon explicitly

The funniest thing is about that episode

Odysseus could have avoided being cursed

If he hadn't started detailing who he was to the Cyclops

An idea so stupid his own men were trying to get him to sgut up

But of course, you can't win heroic kleos if you do something and noone knows you did it

[lean fjord]

man just had to dox himself

[vagrant dove]

Yeah he straight up goes

[cloud wadi]

Hermes really just has some sick sense of humor

[vagrant dove]

"I'm Odysseus, my dad's Laertes"

[cloud wadi]

That’s the best part about him

[vagrant dove]

"Btw i'm from Ithaca"

Which is what allows Polyphemus to tell his dad (Poseidon) exactly who to make miserable for the next few years

“So they spoke, but they could not persuade my great-hearted spirit; and I answered him again with angry heart: “‘Cyclops, if any one of mortal men shall ask thee about the shameful blinding of thine eye, say that Odysseus, the sacker of cities, blinded it, even the son of Laertes, whose home is in Ithaca.’

[cloud wadi]

Outis really committed murder an dropped her driver’s license, passport, insurance card, and birth certificate at the scene of the crime

[cosmic gorge]

Memrt blanekd

[vagrant dove]

?

[neat cedar]

Ryoshu's VAs fav character being Lei heng

is some fuckin

peak comedy

[vagrant dove]

Odysseus later learns to not do this, and keeps fucking quiet about his identity when he needs to

[neat cedar]

heh

[ebon forge]

project moon

[cosmic gorge]

Memory blanked out

[vagrant dove]

How I feel when I look at fucking abnos

"I can identify the themes of wandering endlessly in Wayward Passenger, but I feel like I'm still missing somethi-"

[neat cedar]

also

[vagrant dove]

There's just so much there

[neat cedar]

inthink the funniest part of the canto

[vagrant dove]

Fair enough!

[neat cedar]

is all of the chinese fans ||Fucking despising the font choice for ryoshu's new scabbard apparently||

||It's apparently like really jarringly generic||

[stoic fjord]

from what I understand, it's almost like a corporate vibes kinda font

someone sent an example of what something similar for Heathcliff's bat would look like with the same kind of generic font?

I think?

[jaunty jay]

Aprox like using helvetica?

[karmic escarp]

yeah

[ebon forge]

it'd be like using ariel lol

[neat cedar]

crazy work

very funny

||god i could only imagine seeing the ending cutscene, and how the hype would instsntly turn into "Bro what the fuck is this"||

[ebon forge]

lol

[stoic fjord]

this is how i feel any time I try to do or say anything with regards to project moon

everyone else is so much smarter than me 😭

[cosmic gorge]

Gotta replace "remorse of conscience" with something else canto9 specific

[split beacon]

If you read and you do analysis and you talk with people you’ll improve at it

It’s a skill

[stoic fjord]

even worse.... I have to suck at it before I can be good at it...

anyways yeah pretty much

I do feel like I've gotten better at this since engaging with this chat more

[split beacon]

👍

[stoic fjord]

I still don't really have much knowledge to work with but I'm getting better at the actual skills I think

[ebon forge]

"blindness to reality in obedience to a greater concept"

seriously though, all the nursefathers were blind to the things they desired or the things they wanted to do in favor of something they believed to be absolute

like, Val absolutely loved Lucio, but she was completely blinded by "ticket" and her desire for glory

if she realized it, she could've been happy

[stoic fjord]

mmnnnnehhhh not fully sure I agree there

[cloud wadi]

I don’t think there’s a world out there where Valencina could be happy

[split beacon]

She did, in her own stupid, fucked up way

[cloud wadi]

But she could have been satisfied

[stoic fjord]

I do think she cared but I don't know that it would ever be something happy or healthy

[split beacon]

Valencina is clearly a complicated person

Like that’s not a joke either, she’s got jelly in her jam and it shows

[ebon forge]

yeah im simplifying here

[stoic fjord]

I want to punch her in the face but also I understand the depth of character and all that

I just also really wanna fucking punch her upside the head

[ebon forge]

she's way more than just a simple love, but i cant express it easily

[split beacon]

All of the Nursefathers had a similar issue in that they didn’t know how to love or care for another person because none of them can love or care for themselves lol

[cloud wadi]

Unlike Mathias

Her loyalty to her family is real

[split beacon]

They’re all failures because they all abandoned themselves

[cloud wadi]

No matter how much she complains about them

[jaunty jay]

The thought of "Valencina is a tiger mom" bounced in my head and physically convulsed with how much it fits.

[ebon forge]

she is!

[cloud wadi]

All of her action is done because she wants to return to them

Her panic is how she’s the shame of her family

[stray sleet]

She was also clearly someone who lived in the past a lot, and was desperate to get back to her glory days

[cloud wadi]

Being shamed and away from her family eats at her

It’s all she cares about

[ebon forge]

she's really just stuck in her own past yeah

[cloud wadi]

Yeah but it also does show

Family is important to her

[ebon forge]

it might be more accurate to say that val is too lost in her past to focus on her actual present

[cloud wadi]

It’s a lever that you can use to empathize with her

[ebon forge]

where she has lucio

[split beacon]

All of the Nursefathers in their own way have a deeply rooted failure that eats away at them and keeps them from loving someone else properly

[cloud wadi]

And maybe get her to empathize with you

[gentle mulch]

hm. wasn't able to realize it and got lucio killed. mods cut her with the blade that severs all.

the thumbs manifestation of love--i have the same reaction as angela did upon meeting them

[ebon forge]

it feels like somehow, all the fingers are a fucked up form of longing

[split beacon]

Callisto is a hot mess who NEEDS artistic validation, the Dihui Star was chained down and desperately wanted to run free, Matthias needs to feel special and like he has wonderful things, and Rien, well

Rien is a catastrophic failure of a Proxy

With no faith in himself

[ebon forge]

Callisto needs a friend

[gentle mulch]

callisto needs like.

[split beacon]

no Callisto has artist brainrot

[ebon forge]

and maybe estrogen

[split beacon]

he needs people on his level who can tell him "that's fucking stupid dude"

[ebon forge]

exactly! a friend!

[gentle mulch]

regular acknowledgement and firmly placed critique

[ebon forge]

hohenheim wouldve made an amazing friend now that i think about it

[gentle mulch]

the good ending where hohenheim says why dont you make art with abnos instead when we suppress them and he goes ohhh the ephemerality of it all ohhh the cycle of slaughter ohh ohh ohhhh and combusts into love world

[split beacon]

He's clearly stuck tracing circles around himself forever musing on art but never getting out of his own perspective

[ebon forge]

TRUTH NUKE

[split beacon]

and Albina can't validate him

because of master-slave dialectic. and stuff.

[gentle mulch]

and then mellows the fuck out on account of being the closest thing to a salvageable nursefather

[split beacon]

eh?

the most salvageable one to me is Rien as stupid as that sounds

he's constantly on the borderline of getting it

[ebon forge]

rien needs someone to tell him to get a grip

[split beacon]

which, I guess could also be the most damning thing

[ebon forge]

and become the one that grips

[gentle mulch]

There's something about someone being really

yeah

[split beacon]

because he keeps missing it

[gentle mulch]

someone being really close to getting it that unfortunately

makes them more likely to miss it more ime

[stoic fjord]

"dawg get a fucking grip it's a stupid fucking screen lock the fuck in and give yourself meaning you stupid bitch"

[cosmic gorge]

Bro how dare you pull a hegel on me

I was talking to my friends about that yesterday aaaa

[split beacon]

no no the Index gives you meaning

he needs faith

[gentle mulch]

rien needs a Benjamin intervention

[split beacon]

like genuinely he is lacking the faith that an Index Proxy needs

[dusty sigil]

Honestly I was kinda thinking Shiomi, since she too recognized the house of spiders for what it was

Hell

[gentle mulch]

"what is religion to you" hokmaballs would fix him

[split beacon]

Shiomi doesn't need salvaging she did what she needed to do as best as she could

[stoic fjord]

okay yeah that bit

[split beacon]

is she a corrosive mess? absolutely

[dusty sigil]

She just needed to stop resenting Ryoshu and realize what was actually keeping her from walking the earth and burn the house to the ground

[gentle mulch]

shiomi doesn't count. justified crashout

tragic

[cosmic gorge]

Was Albina even closer to self realization comapred to Callie

[keen palm]

Shiomi needed medication

[dusty sigil]

Actually yah that’s fair

[stoic fjord]

get this man into the library to talk to the man he's stealing the identity of and also the religion guy

[dusty sigil]

Shiomi did nothing wrong

[split beacon]

no she did things wrong

but not things we can really

you know

[keen palm]

She slapped a baby

[split beacon]

go "nah just don't"

I think Valencina was mostly the babyslapper

[keen palm]

Shiomi did as well i think

[gentle mulch]

maybe starting out with "mommy is that you" might have helped

[dusty sigil]

Didn’t she actually never hurt Ryoshu herself?

I thought that was more Valencia’s area

[split beacon]

wait wait

[keen palm]

I could be fulfilling themes of Canto 9 by having an unreliable memory

[split beacon]

"what would fix the nursefathers"

[stoic fjord]

I think Dihui just told her that showing any sadness was not acceptable because she had no reason to feel the same sorrow as her

it was mostly emotional harm

Valencina was the main one who actually hit ryoshu physically iirc

[gentle mulch]

Matthias needs to grow the fuck up and die

fixed

[dusty sigil]

Also showed her vodka rice

[gentle mulch]

Valencina. Fixed

Shiomi. fixed.
Dihui Star. Still working on it

[keen palm]

Matthias needed a universal basic income as a child

[gentle mulch]

uhh

Callisto. a single reality check

[dusty sigil]

Unfortunately I think estrogen would make Rien and Matthias worse

Callisto though?

[gentle mulch]

Rien. Hokma

[dusty sigil]

That could do some good

Assuming there is any affect at all

[split beacon]

Valencina - look. not everyone's straightforwardly fixable. I think at this point you need to like, quit your job, find something else in life, raise your kid, I dunno
Rien - BENJAMIN INTERVENTION
Matthias - they need to force this man to go to high school or something
Callisto - god. dude you need to go back to university. talk to people. join a club or something
Shiomi - burn the fucking House of Spiders to the ground

[keen palm]

Callisto is fine if you just change the arbitrary need for gore and corpses

[ebon forge]

ok yeah but proper fucking black silence

also

make Callisto a teacher

deadass

you could fix him with one simple career path change

[dusty sigil]

Callisto honestly was another case of the house itself stifling growth

[gentle mulch]

Addendum on Matthias
*Go to high school and if you maim or kill anyone you restart it.

[dusty sigil]

Like he said, he hasn’t had a visitor to his gallery in years

[keen palm]

Callisto needed a friend

[split beacon]

no Callisto was also a hack before

[dusty sigil]

Art without the input of others stagnates

[gentle mulch]

You laugh you go to high school

[split beacon]

they just like, actually need to force Callisto to talk to his peers

critique someone else's art

[keen palm]

Callisto DID

[split beacon]

get called a bitch a bunch

[gentle mulch]

Callisto needs to like

actually learn how to make art for himself without killing people

it's possible

[keen palm]

Callisto's problems were inflicted upon him not self inflicted beyond his unwillingness to change

[gentle mulch]

surprising i know

[stoic fjord]

I honestly think that with the way the Ring is, it was unlikely he would've grown had he talked to his peers anyways

[split beacon]

long story short just send him to The Ring's art critique cock and ball torture room

[keen palm]

Like he could happily talk and take criticism

[stoic fjord]

I do not think the Ring genuinely engages with art on a meaningful level

[dusty sigil]

I mean but then the ring isn’t a evil mob they’re just an art group

Like, they have to have a gimmick

[gentle mulch]

KILL ALL ARTISTS shirt.png

[stoic fjord]

or at least does not do it to a good extent

anyways I've been staring at this for like an hour now

[ebon forge]

thats kinda why i want him to be a teacher

[dusty sigil]

Also yah, he was ecstatic with Hohenheim

Who was very critical of his art

[split beacon]

SEND HIM TO THE ASSISTANT PROFESSOR MINES

TENURE: REVOKED

[gentle mulch]

Honestly

[stoic fjord]

he was only disappointed because Hohenheim was just using it as a distraction

so like

[gentle mulch]

Callisto could be Sora

[cosmic gorge]

ALL ARTISTS KILL

-the Ring

[split beacon]

actually yeah I'm changing my answer

[stoic fjord]

he's genuinely happy to hear people shittalk his art because it means he can learn something from it and try and make his art better, from what I understand

[dusty sigil]

Yah, that’s the only time he was actually made with him

[ebon forge]

like, seriously, a teacher would be INCREDIBLE on callisto

[split beacon]

for callisto what would fix him is losing his tenure

[dusty sigil]

Even as Hohenheim called his stuff trite and uninspired

[gentle mulch]

"If I perform work on Nothing There...I get to be assistant to Hohenheim, right?"

[ebon forge]

imagine being able to just make art, teach people about it, and have people shit on your stuff and be able to watch them improve on that

[gentle mulch]

that's Callisto as Sora

[stoic fjord]

like I think he genuinely just needs inspiration and for someone to go "have you considered doing something besides warped flesh sculptures"

[gentle mulch]

put him in there

[split beacon]

like allegorically, taking the art mob murder stuff out of the picture and just talking about the metaphor

[cosmic gorge]

I dunno if this is just me but theres a certain fraud hackiness to elevating murder and gore as art

[ebon forge]

can i cuddle him

he's a wet cat

[split beacon]

Callisto is just a really regressed stagnant art prof

[stoic fjord]

100%

[cosmic gorge]

And making that elevation an institution is pretentious

[split beacon]

who's been rotting in his studio

for years

[stoic fjord]

100%

[gentle mulch]

wait

hold on

I'm gonna cook something nasty good for Callisto

drum roll

Callisto needs a trip to a warp train with WRyoshu

[stoic fjord]

it's like. idk.

I feel like ironically, I might consider Callisto's "school" closest to being something interesting and legitimate

not because I think it's actually good

[gentle mulch]

it'd be perfect for him

[ebon forge]

they'd be so happy... bwuhhhhhhhhhhhh

ngl of all the nursefathers

[stoic fjord]

but because taking inspiration from human anatomy does genuinely sound like an interesting idea

[gentle mulch]

legitimately that would make him so happy

[ebon forge]

i want callisto to be happiest the most

[cosmic gorge]

Oh hey i just realized

What with Ring stuff expanded in this canto i now have more fuel for limbus OC greg heffley

[split beacon]

for me it's gotta be Rien because he's just so

[stoic fjord]

and with less focus on tearing people apart and more focus on actual inspiration on the human form

[dusty sigil]

Oh god I forgot about him

[stoic fjord]

I feel like it could be so much more interesting

[split beacon]

that dude Rien is so much closer to like

having a life

[stoic fjord]

Rien is actually so fucking close it makes me mad

[split beacon]

well, Valencina is in second there she's literally just miserable and washed

[gentle mulch]

Rien is ragebaiting hermes so they had to hit him w the fpoon

[stoic fjord]

||fucking. shiomi and ryoshu sharing a cigarette. and the pinky promise between Ryoshu and Valencina.||

[gentle mulch]

Valencina could use a few bugfixes

[dusty sigil]

#pranked

[split beacon]

you know what would unironically fix Valencina

the mirror world where she just quits and like

[dusty sigil]

me

[split beacon]

becomes an office rep or something

[gentle mulch]

probably would help a lot

Honestly

[split beacon]

Literally Quit Your Job Lady

[gentle mulch]

Liu Association isn't a bad place to fix people

[split beacon]

Just Let Go

[ebon forge]

val outis...

[gentle mulch]

my bet is Liu Valencina would be fixed

[dusty sigil]

Xiao was fired recently

[gentle mulch]

Xiao retired to a lovely countryside home with Lowell

[split beacon]

liu assoc section director valencina and her up-and-at-em go getter apprentice lucio...

[cosmic gorge]

He lives in the Backstreets controlled by the Ring

He has to submit Art for his family lest they take one of Manny's limbs again

[vagrant dove]

Speaking of ring related ocs

[dusty sigil]

Oh god

[ebon forge]

the fuck you mean they'd take manny's limbs

[cosmic gorge]

The favored child

[ebon forge]

that dude is like great brother of the middle at age 5

[vagrant dove]

Considering a surrealist maestro who thinks film is the best way to represent the unconscious

[split beacon]

kinda heat

[ebon forge]

he's a fucking menance to society

[cosmic gorge]

The favored child's parts are demanded

Manny is borged up

[split beacon]

a Ring Maestro who's a director goes hard

[cosmic gorge]

Spoiled so he gets cool prosthetics

[ebon forge]

grade 9 fixer rodrick

[cosmic gorge]

Girl rocker roderick

With her own office

[vagrant dove]

And also has an unhealthy fascination with trying to tap into the dreams of abnos and distortions to produce said films, as those two categories of being lack the limiting trappings of rationality

[cosmic gorge]

Left the backstreets and thinks her brother is a bum for still seeking artistic approval

[cosmic gorge]

Alfred Hitchcock Maestro

Only less terrible a person than the actual hitchcock

[cloud wadi]

Matthias is too cowardly to ever admit he did anything wrong

Is my scan of him

[split beacon]

look

I think bullying is wrong

[stoic fjord]

I'm going to scream and cry

[split beacon]

but also Matthias like

[stoic fjord]

god I hope they're okay

[split beacon]

needed to grow up with the constant threat of getting missile dropkicked by another human being approximately his age who lives with him all the time

[stray sleet]

I hope they're together at least

[split beacon]

ie have a real actual sibling

[cloud wadi]

Matthias is the bully in this metaphor

Except he’s too much of a coward to ever admit that he’s a bully

[vagrant dove]

(Please don't ask what the maestro is trying to get hold of a monolith for)

[cloud wadi]

Middle as an organization if you ask me is defined by that cowardice

[split beacon]

I mean yeah and Matthias is the worst of those types of cowards

[vagrant dove]

But yeah this canto has made me think a lot more about the Fingers in general

[ebon forge]

the middle all long for true bravery and chivalry...

[stoic fjord]

this is why Don Quixote should become the Greatest Sister of the Middle and reform the organization

[faint pivot]

Is any Finger willing to do this?

[vagrant dove]

Truthnuke

[cosmic gorge]

Kind of like liu rodya maybe

[cloud wadi]

Every other finger is fucking insane

[stoic fjord]

I'm going to pelt you with rocks if you keep this up

[faint pivot]

Stop giving her Envy res I'm already torn between beach shirt and cosplay 😭

[cloud wadi]

But at the very least they don’t pretend they are morally righteous

[stoic fjord]

my throat is doing the barbed wire thing that happens when you try not to cry

[split beacon]

choking up?

[ebon forge]

i think the issue is she's too focused on that damned justice, right?

[stoic fjord]

yes

hrm

I

[cloud wadi]

To rise to the top of the middle

[stoic fjord]

am going to go through 9-49 again

[faint pivot]

Are the Thumb not doing this with their rules

[cloud wadi]

You can’t just be for justice

[stoic fjord]

just to torture myself a little

[faint pivot]

Speaking of the Fingers

[keen palm]

I think it's hard to say that considering we know very little of how the higher Middle works and acts

[stray sleet]

Yeah the longer canto 9 sits with me the more I like it, there's a lot going on and it's all very good

[faint pivot]

It's real funny how the NF rose to their level despite being the most oppositional to their respective...dogmas?

Val would probs do better in the Middle

[keen palm]

Matthias did a clearly evil act of trechery and was rightly punished for it

[faint pivot]

Matt would do great with the Thumb

[cloud wadi]

Sorta but also I think I just tend to to respect them a little more because they apply their rule insanity to themselves and each other

[vagrant dove]

Genuinely considering writing a "finger officers have a chat during a bow bell" piece, just because of that

[gentle mulch]

if lowell ever for real dies the city is getting firebombed. roland 2

[cloud wadi]

That’s some real twisted dedication

To the bit

To the point that it just feels a lot less hypocritical

[gentle mulch]

i wish we could see angelas reaction to the other fingers

[split beacon]

Peel back the very heavens... and cast aside all that seeks to steal my daughter from me.
RIEN...

[faint pivot]

I'm not sure where I remember this from but wasn't there a scene where a Thumb capo was betrayed by a soldato

Cause the latter wanted to take their place

[cloud wadi]

No

[gentle mulch]

because angela was like oh okay that doesn't sound so bad and flipped to "all of you are fucking insane dogs i hope you die. may you find your book." while still "inhuman"

[cloud wadi]

That’s a gyulmung fanfic

[faint pivot]

Ah I see I see

[split beacon]

By the Wings you people are dogs, I will reblog as always.

[cloud wadi]

You are referring to a gyulmung fanfic featuring revenge

But I don’t doubt it happens

[gentle mulch]

I will receive you as always.

[cloud wadi]

Thumb does sound like a pit of snakes

[gentle mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/red-mist-library-of-ruina-meme-gebura-great-split-gif-10069995606081450583

[keen palm]

I mean you give a guy a gun and he might shoot you eventually

[cloud wadi]

I would imagine a lot of them have internal mindset like Lucio

Where every day they are just on the edge of snapping

And thinking to themselves

[split beacon]

This time, this time I'll shoot him...

[cloud wadi]

“Yes”

[ebon forge]

what happens if you do kill one tho

[cloud wadi]

“Today is the day I fucking kill this guy”

[split beacon]

Klingon promotion

[cloud wadi]

But never actually do

[vagrant dove]

You die horribly probably

For daring to shoot a superior

[cloud wadi]

Shooting a superior is technically not a crime

As then the thumb wouldn’t be able to shoot enemies of higher status

They didn’t have any issue with surprise ambushing hong lu with intent to kill

Lying to a superior is a crime

But trying to kill a superior isn’t

[vagrant dove]

Yeah but in context, it would be a higher ranked member of the Thumb

Not someone outside

I imagine the rule is different

[cloud wadi]

The rules don’t seem to make distinctions actually

You can see from Sinclair uptie

That the rules are supposed to be applied universally

Which is why Sinclair is so pissed that outsiders to the group doesn’t follow the rules

I imagine there still might be a clause saying

“Don’t shoot your direct superior you numb nuts, you psycho, you idiot”

[keen palm]

Nothing is a crime if your superior orders it.

They also didn't AMBUSH Hong Lu

[vagrant dove]

The rules for appropriate social decorum being universal doesn't exclude the thumb having rules for internal affairs

[keen palm]

They politely asked him to leave first

then when he didn't they shot him with a gun

[cloud wadi]

No they shot him first

[keen palm]

The person who shot him first did so by mistake then lied about it and thus cut their tongue out

[cloud wadi]

And then tried to play it off as it being a warning shot

[keen palm]

ya

[cloud wadi]

Which is why she got her tongue cut off

[keen palm]

Which was against orders

[cloud wadi]

Because she was in fact trying to kill him

And she lied about it

By claiming that was a warning shot

[keen palm]

The other Soldatto explicitly says though they had orders to tell Hong Lu to leave

and would only resort to violence if he persisted

[cloud wadi]

They had orders to not allow passage. The direct cause for her tongue being cut off was because she lied

Not because she shot him

[keen palm]

Yes

That's what I said

[cloud wadi]

Oh hmm

[keen palm]

What I'm refuting is that they didn't ambush the party

they were supposed to just tell them to fuck off

but had orders to kill them if that didn't work

Since it was bad decorum to attack someone of Hong Lu's station, but Lei Heng's orders overruled that.

It's also the line where we find out the Thumb has powerscaled the LCCB

[vagrant dove]

Thumb Sinclair is an avid powerscaler

[stoic fjord]

fuck I should not have replayed node 9-49

I'm actually crying so hard it's embarassing

[keen palm]

Thumb is inherently where you go if you are a powerscaler because powerscaling informs decorum

[cloud wadi]

The fact that the thumb obsessively study every important faction in the city for powerscaling purposes is stupid funny

[vagrant dove]

Also he really is comically easy to indoctrinate

Like the Thumb really seems to gel with him

[cloud wadi]

He likes rules

[cosmic gorge]

Little swiss boy is the perfect prey of reactionary online groups

[vagrant dove]

Kromer rolls worst cult recruitment AGAIN, asked to dream of human wholeness again

[cloud wadi]

And following orders

[dusty sigil]

If the Thumb ran vs boards saying Goku doesn’t solo would result in your tongue being cut out

[cloud wadi]

Yes

For being wrong

[keen palm]

https://i.imgur.com/J26ag1k.png

[stoic fjord]

Sailor Moon solos Goku I think

I forget the reasoning why but I'm like 99% sure this is the case somehow

[keen palm]

TWO ROADS FUCKBOY

Sailor Moon solos a lot of fiction

[dusty sigil]

It is really funny that the Hana’s main job is powerscaling lol

[cloud wadi]

Hana fixers partner with the thumb to bring power scaling commentary

[keen palm]

i made this just now btw

clap or die

[stoic fjord]

👏

[vagrant dove]

Do you think the thumb calls people "street tier"

👏

[dusty sigil]

👏

[dusty sigil]

Rats tier

[cloud wadi]

👏

[vagrant dove]

Anyway gn chat it's late and I must retire to my chambers

[stoic fjord]

goodnight

[tired canyon]

xichun in like

5 days

"where the fuck did you all go"

<youre not gonna believe this.>

one explanation later

"..wow youre right i dont believe you get out of my house please"

i want vindication for this btw

[karmic escarp]

you cooked

[keen palm]

Roland and Ricardo having the same VA will never not kill mme

[dusty sigil]

Man, the escalation limbus has gone through visually is

Crazy

Just, compare and contrast Ryoshu’s EGO moments to Yi Sang’s in canto 4

[stoic fjord]

Yi Sang's is still peak

[dusty sigil]

It is

But, damn by comparison it’s so simple

[gentle mulch]

yeah they got a budget now

[stoic fjord]

Glory to the company 🫡

[gentle mulch]

i am genuinely at a point where i look at a new game release and I'm like

is it abiotic factor universe related?
is its story going to resonate with me as much as PJM's?
is it going to make me feel better to play than continuing Look Outside?

and if it can't answer any one of those questions with a yes I'm not that invested

[dusty sigil]

Are your two games rn Limbus and Look Outside?

[gentle mulch]

it's just Limbus rn

and then on good days

Abiotic Factor or Look Outside

and i uh

well my semester is uh

yeah

[dusty sigil]

Oh yah

School

My current project is kicking my ass rn

And I’m on week 2

Also

[gentle mulch]

id fucking love a what if araya was disguised as lei heng instead repaint

[dusty sigil]

It’s her in the mirror world

Also from @ mobiusoverlords

It’s fucked up how this is extremely in character

She’s absolutely laughing at 67 memes

She’s showing Ryoshu we are Charlie Kirk memes she found on TikTok

[cosmic gorge]

I feel like i would melt if i heard any note from that song

Ive avoided it out of principle

And have been successful

[gentle mulch]

WE ARE PRINCE CASSETTTIIIIII WE CARRY THE MARCH

[dusty sigil]

WE FIGHT FOR THE FAMILY

WE HONOR HIS NAME

[tiny cave]

canto 7 and 9 spoilers the good ending

[cloud wadi]

Divinity sounds promising

[gentle mulch]

dndslop

sorry im very particular

[dusty sigil]

the real answer is the game I’m developing

[split beacon]

-# from u/the-chuppster

this mf only reads picture books how literate do you think he is

[dusty sigil]

Bro can’t imagine an apple

[split beacon]

he CANNOT rotate an apple

[dusty sigil]

Rien when he gets a prescript to read a book without pictures:

[quaint cliff]

Finally got InDon :D

[dusty sigil]

Nice!

[tiny cave]

https://tenor.com/view/how-can-you-read-this-no-pictures-gif-15201067

[tired canyon]

roku nana

[quaint cliff]

So that’s how ||the Prescripts are seemingly able to predict the future, apparently. Its vibrations are already present in the… er, present, and whatever god of the City responsible for Prescripts can pick them out and out them to the loom. Or the beeper, in this case.||

[split beacon]

it's poetic language at that point

[quaint cliff]

Would also explain ||how the Prescripts can know about past events that the Index themselves shouldn’t have any knowledge of, as its lingering echoes are also still present.||

Though frankly that makes more sense since you can actually dig up past info based on present clues even without Prescripts. The Seven and Dieci associations partly exist for just that in between detective work and Ruins expeditions, not to mention the countless private offices who do the same. The idea that ||the future somehow sends its echoes back to the past is still strange.||

[gentle mulch]

how the fuck is limbus gonna end

like im reading all this and im just wonder how the hell is all of this going to be resolved because this is a bit larger of a scale than Angela's Home Invasion Series

[cloud wadi]

All shall be well

All manner of things shall be well

We shan’t fight god

There is no need to

There shall be no revolution

There is no need for it

Our existence is meaningless

There is no need for a meaning

Only thing there shall be

Is to keep marching on

No matter how wretched, broken, and lost we are

The City must survive

[split beacon]

You know what’s crazy

That mf with his legitimately great wordplay and command of language

Is uh

Like that

[ebon forge]

yeah i think he DOES have an imagination

[split beacon]

Oh yeah he’s just terrified of misinterpreting writing

Because of The Horrors

[ebon forge]

yeah

he's so stupid i love it

[split beacon]

But also that’s why he’s a terrible Proxy

A good Proxy would simply have faith in their ability to get it right

[ebon forge]

yeah this fucker is a FRAUD

[cloud wadi]

Sora was a good proxy

Not that it saved her

[ebon forge]

FRAUDULENT
RIEN
ABSOLUTELY
UNTHINKS
DA PRESCRIPT

[ebon forge]

when she has absolute faith in the prescript and believes it truely is her own will, yeah

she'd be an incredible proxy

[bronze zephyr]

researching abraxas, apparently its mentioned in demian a fair amount, specifically the first quote here is referenced directly in canto 3

[karmic escarp]

abraxas dont fuck with normies i see

[split beacon]

Abraxas only rolls with those who are ready to self-actualize

[cloud wadi]

let us march

for the end of all prosthetics users

[tired canyon]

What do you think are the chances

We will see DANTE distorting

[tiny cave]

low

its not impossible that it leads to a FATE LOST if you lose though

[bronze zephyr]

Low but not impossible yeah

[bronze zephyr]

abraxas is specifically depicted with a rooster head and snake legs i think

so. snake inquisitors ass

[cloud wadi]

how does one have snake legs

[karmic escarp]

rooster head eh? when sinclair is compared to a little chick so often? could mean anything

like two tailed mermaid id assume

[cloud wadi]

ah

those are indeed snake legs

[bronze zephyr]

Yeah lmao

[karmic escarp]

FUCK RIUGHT WHEN I WAS TRYING TO DRAW IT

[bronze zephyr]

LMAO

[karmic escarp]

i didnt even know what it actually looked like i just wanted to draw a jacked chadly chickent head for the lulz so i could joke it's sinclair's fursona

[bronze zephyr]

LMAO

[true bluff]

sneet

[fluid whale]

'Sneat

[ebon forge]

bangs head

bangs head

bangs head

SHES NOT DEAD

[tiny cave]

she lives on in our arts

i mean hearts

[mystic ermine]

In... in some mirror world out there...

[quaint cliff]

I mean yeah

She’s quite beyond death, actually

[bronze zephyr]

Which sinner do we think will achieve mang first chat

[karmic escarp]

i always forget the difference between shin and mang not gonna lie

[lean fjord]

Shin is the aura

Mang is the rings

[karmic escarp]

ahhh ok

it's gonna be ||gregor and no one is gonna be happy about it||

[split beacon]

you know

it sure is funny that Valencina's response to potentially losing a fight

was to go "parry this, you fucking casual" and whip out a meta combat page from LoR

[ebon forge]

I’m tempted to say Sinclair

Sinclair, on a HARD technicality is the first Shin user

[tiny cave]

Skincare has already achieved it 😌

[bronze zephyr]

Certain Sinclair achieved it but the sign is cheatingggg

[tiny cave]

I’m betting on Rodion achieving Mang second

Can’t be first because that would be special

[ebon forge]

tbf though anyone can awaken the sign iirc

one could argue that since it's sinclair's own power, it's thereby also his Shin

[tiny cave]

Or maybe Rodion will be the first sinner with Mang and complain about it

“But Verg already has it and we’ve fought like 10 enemies with Mang already, why can’t I have anything cool and unique”

[ebon forge]

i just found the best emote ever

[split beacon]

-# u/Far-Pirate-3896

[faint pivot]

I was wondering where the Thumb was in their icon and I just noticed - that's not just a shield, that's also a hand grasping the rifle. The Thumb is the biggest among them, forming the top arc

[faint pivot]

I have to wonder if this because of ||the beeper rather than him being literally unable to. "Kill the doors of the ceiling" can be puzzled together in the situation InDon found herself in, but he's gotta be ontop of his info game to get the context right if Hermes' prescripts are that vague||

||And he likely is if he's been an Index Proxy for so damn long. Maybe the contention with him for books is that he doesn't get the warming confirmation he gets from his beeper||

[fluid whale]

Someone has come up with a Ruina mod based on the story of Limbus by now, right? Either as an alt campaign or adapting the big hits?

[tiny cave]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3091822129

[fluid whale]

Just what I was thinking of, back to bed for me

[stoic fjord]

With KoDya being a thing i feel like Rodion could manifest 9 rings and still complain

[vagrant dove]

yeah

she could be a colour fixer

[atomic steeple]

Also, looks like blood flowing downward

[stoic fjord]

Zenless Zone Zero mentioned

[signal kindle]

||She’s dead magic||

[mystic ermine]

NO
if she were, how is ||her e.g.o|| still here?!

[signal kindle]

Hmm

||egos can be extracted and used by other invdividuals, Geburah, library of ruina when talking to Roland she says as much iirc)||

||Acc hang on I never saw the ending you pulled a fucking Rien on me||

||the prescript wills I play limbus||

[mystic ermine]

Thats a ||cogito|| thing!

[mystic ermine]

I saved it for later

[atomic steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxD2JAyxRp0

[signal kindle]

😭

[signal kindle]

Oh I see

I didn’t know 😔

[mystic ermine]

Wha

Hiw does

[dusty sigil]

From @ fanjing1124

[wild mango]

||sorry, you just posted a blank image? i think discord is messing up||

||but no yeah out of ALL of them i wanted sora to live the most||

[stoic fjord]

5

[bronze zephyr]

5 and it’s not even close

[tired canyon]

I have put this image on 3 different servers

It's just

A giant pile of people taking up the 5th seat

All on top of eachother

[bronze zephyr]

It is objectively the best one

[dusty sigil]

Ok objectively for the least annoying flight, 7

Ren and Lucio are dead silent the entire time

[vagrant dove]

5 without question, although 7 might be fine as long as i don't annoy ryoshu by leaning too far back or smth

[dusty sigil]

And I get an isle seat

however for the bit I gotta go with 9

[vagrant dove]

9 is like

[bronze zephyr]

Me when I’m DEAD silent ahahahagahgaa

[vagrant dove]

Accidentally jostle ricardo or meet lei hengs eyes (because i am sure as hell not bro's equal in the thumb's heirarchy)

Instant death

[dusty sigil]

Killing you with my mind

[tired canyon]

I mean

Regardless of your pick

The plane itself is not making it through

There's two big brothers and a previous great brother in the same plane with Roland

[mint cliff]

This is a plane crash

[dusty sigil]

There’s no reward in this life without risk

[vagrant dove]

Also yeah like

Roland and middle members

In the same fucking plane

[atomic steeple]

5 or 8

[vagrant dove]

If the penny drops at any point in that flight

[tired canyon]

But

If things are not gonna die

You cja probably ask Roland to turn on the gloves so none of the nonsense that the others do reach your ears

[vagrant dove]

3 is like the nuclear option because you're surrounded by middle members

And the ring

I'm sorry albina, i think trying to make friends with you may involve you forcibly ripping the fleshfrom my boned and stuffing it in fascia

[atomic steeple]

8 cause araya and ryoshu are chill

[vagrant dove]

Ricardo behind is the big issue

[bronze zephyr]

Yeah I’d go 4 if that wasn’t a possibility lmao

[tired canyon]

i could go with 6 and hope that valencina puts out a cigarette on me out of boredom but I feel she would probably just stab instead

[atomic steeple]

5 is good cause you can ask kong qiu about advice

Free therapy

[vagrant dove]

5 is good for transformative life advice

7 is alright for chilli- actually you have to listen to Valencina being awful to Lucio the whole flight

[atomic steeple]

Wait is the image gone?

[bronze zephyr]

10 hour therapy session

[vagrant dove]

Which would suck

[tired canyon]

Also uh

Ther s

There's a-

There's a distortion on this planet

HOW DID IT GET A TICKET

[atomic steeple]

8 you just hear araya teach ryoshu slang

[atomic steeple]

Prescript: let me on the plane

[vagrant dove]

The prescripts demanded it

Poor yan

That corner really is "people broken by the prescripts"

[bronze zephyr]

Top left corner is kinda hilarious

[vagrant dove]

Also I'd be so fucking scared duriny this flight bc like

Nearly everyone on this plane either has ego shin or mang, or is otherwise strong

My ass is a level 1 rat bro

I'm not built for this

[tired canyon]

The best one is five

The worst one is 9

[atomic steeple]

Become some woman's gf, so you receive protection. Prison rules

[bronze zephyr]

I fully believe if the fingers fucked up the plane Jia Qiu would simply lock in and save everyone

[dusty sigil]

“Mang Wings, activate”

[stoic fjord]

8 might be nice too

[tired canyon]

Fucking

He starts spinning his stick around like a helicopter blade

And flies down

[vagrant dove]

It'd be like those poor backstreets thugs EVIL VILLAINS OF HATRED that get nuked by don in the walp 6 pv

But worse

If the mix of interestinf personalities in this plane causs a fight

[atomic steeple]

Wholesome mother and daughter
Just don't bother ricardo

[stoic fjord]

My plan on a plane is earbuds in, music on, detach from reality

I'll be fine

But yeah 5 is best i think

[vagrant dove]

I'm usually just gamin

Jia Qiu and Zigong can talk about like

[stoic fjord]

I can talk to Albina without being at risk of being fed to Fascia

[vagrant dove]

Plans beyond my knowledge

[stoic fjord]

I can listen to Jia Qiu and Zigong

[vagrant dove]

Over my head

While I lock in and play Plague Inc or smth

[dusty sigil]

I feel like Araya would absolutely be the kinda kid to talk to whoever she’s next to on the plane though

[stoic fjord]

Though also I'd be guilty that I'm probably taking a seat that Zilu would have otherwise filled

[stoic fjord]

Yeah but she's cute and not annoying

[dusty sigil]

Gotta have some 67 videos saved just in case

To distract her

[vagrant dove]

Download some cocomelon

But yeah jokes aside

[stoic fjord]

I'm preventing Zigong from sitting next to her wife... I have to kms...

[tired canyon]

Araya is 8 and ryoshu is not stopping her when she starts fucking with the seat in front of her out of botedom

[vagrant dove]

You could prob survive that seat as long as you do NOTHING

That upsets ricardo

[tired canyon]

I can't tank that

[vagrant dove]

Ren's chill tho

[stoic fjord]

Hrm

Are we assuming like

We're just a normal civilian

[dusty sigil]

Ren understands his master though

[stoic fjord]

Maybe like a grade 7 fixer at best

[dusty sigil]

He’s cool with it

[tired canyon]

You are you

Real life you

[vagrant dove]

Level 0 honestly for me

Sub-rat combat prowess

[stoic fjord]

Okay wait

Which is back and which is front

That informs my decision

[bronze zephyr]

I think Roland duo is front

[tired canyon]

1 is back 10 is front

[stoic fjord]

Alright yeah I'm not sitting in front of Ricky

[stoic fjord]

Oh okay nvm

Uhhh

Aren't there usually two lines of seats on a plane though?

[bronze zephyr]

Oh ok yeah 5 is even better

[stoic fjord]

Probably just 5 i think

[vagrant dove]

5 is genuinely the best pick then

I'm rather clumsy

And if I accidentally bump into ricardo

He will kill my entire family

So

So you know

[dusty sigil]

I still believe in 7

[bronze zephyr]

Middle and thumb are bombs yeah

[tired canyon]

Eeeeh

That's pretty minor

Likely ONLY a broken arm

[stoic fjord]

5 I get to hear Confucius and his student talk or something

[dusty sigil]

You could throw your meal into Lucio and he wouldn’t react

[stoic fjord]

I think 3 and 9 are the worst seats

[dusty sigil]

You could kiss Lucio and he wouldn’t react

[vagrant dove]

Yeah but uh

You're right in front of valencina

[dusty sigil]

Huh

I just have to be very careful to not kick my seat

[vagrant dove]

I don't want to be that close to like

A known sadist

[tired canyon]

9 is still horrifying

[vagrant dove]

Who runs off thumb ettiquete rules

[stoic fjord]

7 is fucking light work

9 is the issue

[tired canyon]

T

[stoic fjord]

9 is the seat where you're with a Capo, a big brother, a distortion, and the girl who will kill you if the beeper says "bones. 5 minutes"

[tired canyon]

And a toddler behind you

Less extreme but a lot more real fear

[vagrant dove]

I think 10 is fine

Considering I don't know how my death would benefit the Index in this context

But then again the Prescripts work in mysterious ways

[tired canyon]

Having lei Heng sit behind you is

Not fun

But sure

[vagrant dove]

And sora's between me and yan

[tired canyon]

....oh yeah also Ricardo is like

8 foot 400 lbs

He probably takes like 2 sears by himseld

[vagrant dove]

I think the most annoying thing is either Lei Heng like

Shoving his legs forward into the chair/smoking

[tired canyon]

The other problem is that

Acting annoyed at him doing that may be seen as disrespect

[vagrant dove]

Or distorted yan continually reciting prescripts (ily yan and feel really bad what happens to you but I imagine it would get on my nerves a little)

[tired canyon]

And I like my tongue

[vagrant dove]

Good thing the social anxiety will keep me from speaking up

The debuff works in my favour this time

Also 10 is pretty close to the exit

[tired canyon]

i still believe in the "hey,can you turn on your gloves so i cant hear that nonsense over there" strat

[vagrant dove]

You just have to trust that the Will of The City doesn't want to play a funny prank by telling sora to claim your bones and make a xylophone out of them, or something

[tired canyon]

note:this only works if this is post library roland

if its pre libyrary roland he will get suspicious on how the fuck you know about the gloves and likely murderize you for potentially being involved with angelica's death

[vagrant dove]

I think pre library roland is fine as long as you say nothing that uh

Would do that yeah

Don't mention pianos

The issue is you've also got rien there, who has the same issues as sora

And that getting up from that seat runs the risk of accidentally setting off one of the nuclear bombs

That are the middle and thumb guys

Also you're behind matthias so the vibes are rancid

[gentle mulch]

5 or 10

[atomic steeple]

7 it is
Ryoshu behind you, chill apprentices to your side

[wild mango]

Like 5 is the best option yeah

You would come out of that plane ride fucking ENLIGHTENED

Assuming 1/6 is the front of the plane, 2 isn’t terrible since we can just yap about gundam, just don’t disagree with them. 8 would be good just don’t lean your seat back, and with 7 they just probably wouldn’t talk

ASSUMING nobody is crashing out

The correct answer is this plane is NOT making it

[atomic steeple]

"Sora, warn me if a prescript asks to do a violence on me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nnc7_lse24

[bronze zephyr]

Oh interesting

[atomic steeple]

Okay so

Basically

From what I understood with other people in the fandom and an article

It's the seed of your mind that cross into the next life, carrying your experience and karma

[bronze zephyr]

Mmm ok interesting

Makes sense w what happens at the end, she (sort of) forgets araya but the seed of her lives on

[atomic steeple]

Yeah

Ryoshu remembers araya below her regular counsciousness

Because her bond is deeper than simple memories and thoughts

[atomic steeple]

You know, Yi Sang is master of sinking, but my man is good at sloth too
Spicebush has his sloth aoe plus bonus to aoe attacks, then sunshower gives a party bonus to sloth damage

If he got access to reverb he'd master sloth too

Well reverb or everlasting

Could also get access to some mechanic that deals sloth damage based on tremor and sinking

[ebon forge]

5 is the objective best but 3 or 4 sounds amazing, 10 is a dream, fuck naw I ain’t sitting next to Ricardo (genuinely sorry I just don’t want to anger you on accident)

Honestly number 3 would be my favorite spot since I could be like, “heyyyy you look pretty good at art” and then boom worlds best friend in 20 seconds ( wet cat)

[atomic steeple]

It's funny how at the start the deck was pretty stacked against tremor

Sinking can panic enemies multiple times, make them worse at fighting, give them new panics

Tremor could only stagger enemies faster, up to how many staggers they have, and do not much outside of that

It needed the amplitudes and moratorium to take off

And even then some amplitudes dominated others

[split beacon]

it still has all the same problems just now it also has hybrid amplitudes

[vagrant dove]

As a tremor apologist ywah

[dusty sigil]

Just realized

If Rodya does get the Valencia ID

That’ll be her first ID with an evade

[atomic steeple]

Tremor is more useful for its bonus damage with amplitudes, and doing burst damage with everlasting combos and time moratorium

[ebon forge]

cinderella being a disortion makes so much sense

[split beacon]

lol what is this

[vagrant dove]

his big fall is like, him getting thrown off of a skyscraper by Jack Sprat or some shit in Canto 42, the Unshattering

[dusty sigil]

The average PM character

[split beacon]

is it

[dusty sigil]

As he falls we hear his internal monologue

[split beacon]

I feel like the average PMoon character is closer to like, Hugo

and Roland Georg is an anomaly who shouldn't be counted

[vagrant dove]

"All the heads horses, and all the head's men-- couldn't put me back together again..."

[dusty sigil]

Maybe the average like, major PM character

Not the randos who die 3 nodes after being introduced

[split beacon]

the average major PM character is actually Hindley

[dusty sigil]

If we’re talking randos then it’s absolutely “John Fixer, named after a side character from the count of Monte Cristo who appears for 1 page and says 3 lines of dialogue”

[split beacon]

anyways I can't wait for Humpty Dumpty Meursault in a few seasons it'll be peak

his soul-eating piano will be a crazy skill 3

[dusty sigil]

It will be!

[neat cedar]

by isesong

[mystic ermine]

5

ourg h
my
my heart
-# still spoilers

[atomic steeple]

I really gotta do Brazilian literature as pmoon characters

[tired canyon]

ryoshu

yoryoshuku

[mystic ermine]

Can someone recommend me a poisture team setup?
I got this so far

...wait, that works

nevermind

I just
gotta
pump up... two... characters... friom... from nothing

urgh

wait, do they have dodges?

[vagrant dove]

Back to the lux mines

[stoic fjord]

Poise rupture?

Or

[mystic ermine]

oh

fuck

I defaulted to poisture

shit

I meant sinking poise

[stoic fjord]

I would say uhhh

[mystic ermine]

soincture?

poising

[stoic fjord]

Poinking?

[mystic ermine]

ploinking!

[cloud wadi]

Grab index faust

[stoic fjord]

I would say get Index Faust and don't level mariachi sinclair

[cloud wadi]

She’s good

[stoic fjord]

Because he's lowkey ass

[mystic ermine]

looks at 34 faust shards and no crates

well

I know what I must d-

waiut a second

thaat's ryoshu

[stoic fjord]

Also I would go for Fullstop instead of Wildhunt and have those two be your poise, and then KoDya and SL as your sinking

[mystic ermine]

nevermind

[cloud wadi]

Grab index yi sang too whenever he comes out I guess

[mystic ermine]

ty