Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

[tiny cave]

I believe that fight can be done with LCB Rodion and Heathcliff

It’s a gimmick fight after all

What your sinners do barely matters

[split beacon]

It's easier with Sinking units

[vagrant dove]

Yeah I assumed the options were kind of limited. Should still be doable enough

[split beacon]

the only way I can see it getting impossible is if you pick like

pure DPS who fold the moment they take damage

[tiny cave]

Isn’t the shield fixed

[keen palm]

Rooster Heath helps a lot

Since it gives you an extra life

[tiny cave]

They don’t need to win clashes or anything so long as they’re redirecting attacks away from verg and not getting the shield chewed through in a single turn any ID should work

[split beacon]

the shield is fixed but you can get the shield busted and walk it off sometimes

[tiny cave]

Iirc it’s a mono blunt stage tho? So maybe don’t pick blunt fatal IDs

[stoic fjord]

||yes but also ime he chips through all 600 shield every turn and does a little extra chip||

[keen palm]

You do actually need to care about clashes

Because you can definitely die

[vagrant dove]

Esp. in the second phase

If you take the wrong clash there he might kill you

[stoic fjord]

I think he's having trouble specifically with the second phase

[vagrant dove]

Morositas is the easiest solution, but it's very much still winnable without durante

Speaking of, I need to test out ira more

[split beacon]

Did you know Hohenheim's EGO Mastery passive that makes him stronger with more EGO Gear characters on the field actually works with your own IDs

[stoic fjord]

I figured that's how it would work

wait

the technology liberation IDs

Sloshmael and Talisclair and ABS Faust

[split beacon]

yea

[stoic fjord]

peak strat

[vagrant dove]

Go my sloshmael

[ebon forge]

Lei Heng is a dude who loves his cat but also likes spraying em with water

Ryoshu is a very angry cat

[dusty sigil]

The type of dog owner to get his dog’s attention and then flip them off

[vagrant dove]

I still think his theme might be my favorite non-mili boss ost in limbus

Just ahead of the barber, ||gregor-@|| and sevsral of the c9 themes in general

[atomic steeple]

The emperor's chariot can't be stopped (canto 9 spoilers)
||https://www.tumblr.com/almostswagkid/806029434627948544/this-is-how-it-went-right||

ness

This is how it went right?

-# #canto 9 part 3 spoilers #canto 9 spoilers #lcb gregor #shitpost #limbus company #this is lowkey my magnum opus

Tumblr · Jan 17, 2026, 10:39 PM

[split beacon]

fuck I just realized what "A bottle of wine would've gone nicely with this technique" means, Sinclair's learned some bad habits from his teachers lmfao

[gentle mulch]

they must have some dogshit wine in the future huh

what with the smoke affecting all the taste

[vagrant dove]

I mean the Night Drifter's taste for wine is canonically bad iirc

[split beacon]

I mean, the beautiful thing about wine is that you don't have to settle for a bad harvest

you can just open a nicer bottle!

[gentle mulch]

thats true

but also

[gentle mulch]

i believe that. thats true

[split beacon]

no that's also true

but I choose to believe, in context of Sinclair's upbringing and heritage and all

that he's actually partial to a decent bottle from the District 11 lowlands

[gentle mulch]

my alcoholic chariot

[split beacon]

also remember: canon belligerent drunk

grown ass man, flask on hip, committing hate crimes

[vagrant dove]

||Sinclair's distaste for prosthetics becoming Kromeresque hatred is slightly chilling honestly||

[split beacon]

||He's from the bad future!||

||everyone's calling him Terminator Sinclair but he's really Future Trunks Sinclair||

||right down to the category hatred of cyborgs||

[vagrant dove]

||who's the vegeta in this analogy||

[split beacon]

his dad

I mean, narratively, Dante

[vagrant dove]

Also does that make || gregor Perfect Cell||

[split beacon]

I already saw that edit lmao

[eternal berry]

Wouldn't exactly be on-brand for Sinclair to simply ||call forth a version of himself that's purely more realized as a person||

[vagrant dove]

Yeah, it wouldn't

[split beacon]

I don't know that A Certain Sinclair isn't

[vagrant dove]

Just realised in uh

[split beacon]

Sinclair has never actually changed his mind

[vagrant dove]

Unfavourable ways

[split beacon]

like on that front

[gentle mulch]

ohhh my god

shock centipede as a threadlux is so annoying

[split beacon]

he's not really dug that sentiment out and analyzed it, just buried it to focus on anything else

[eternal berry]

Yeah, that's also important to note: Sinclair does find prosthetics distasteful to some extent

[split beacon]

Kromer's shadow still looms long over Sinclair even after her death

[ebon forge]

200 boxes today

who tf do i shard now

[eternal berry]

He's just not a fan of Kromer's brand of fanaticism over flesh either

[stoic fjord]

wait for Kiramael

[ebon forge]

kiramael is shard for me

[split beacon]

wait, and hope.

[ebon forge]

so i dont need to wait

[vagrant dove]

Kromer rolls worst cult recruitment ever

[ebon forge]

i can just shard someone rn

[stoic fjord]

ah

hrm

[ebon forge]

remember that im insane

[vagrant dove]

Asked to dream of human wholeness

[stoic fjord]

who do you want

like

I guess you could start clearing out another season

[ebon forge]

kinda wanna get the last two im missing from s5

s4 is harder

and ew, tremor

[split beacon]

the Binds EGOs are good

👍

[dusty sigil]

Binds Heathcliff is still his best generic EGO

[atomic steeple]

https://www.tumblr.com/dropjackpawzz/776786114820390912/the-worst-thing-she-ever-said-to-him

drop🐝°0913

The worst thing she ever said to him

-# #limbus company #gregor lcb #project moon #gregor limbus company #lcb #lcb rodion #lcb rodya #rodigor #rodigreg #rodion limbus company #my greg headcanon design has wings dont mind it #lcb913

Tumblr · Mar 1, 2025, 3:49 AM

[dusty sigil]

If Rodion said that to me I’d kill myself

[split beacon]

wasn't that part of Rodion siding on the opposite side for Hell's Chicken too

[dusty sigil]

Yah

She did it seemingly, to get a rise out of Gregor

[vagrant dove]

Poor Gregor really took a beating in that one

[atomic steeple]

Cheated on him with Ryoshu

[stoic fjord]

||hit bro so hard he started molting 6 cantos early||

[split beacon]

poor Gregor, someone teach that man to cook properly so he can flex next time

[vagrant dove]

At least he wasn't the worst cook

Never let don near a kitchen again

[stoic fjord]

Meursault, teach Gregor how to cook

[stoic fjord]

or Ryoshu

[split beacon]

never let Yi Sang touch food that isn't ready to eat tbh

that man is a menace

[worthy haven]

||man second smoke war also seems to be fuckign scattered with distortions seeing as how sinclair also had a 40% dmg bonus vs them apart from the mechanical amalgams||

[split beacon]

he should know better

[split beacon]

yeah

[vagrant dove]

||i think that might be because a certain company happens to be selling monoliths||

[dusty sigil]

Oh shit yah

Monolith theory reigns supreme?

[worthy haven]

that said I can def see how SW2 would trigger distortions left and right

[vagrant dove]

||weaponizable distortion||

[worthy haven]

ye

plus just the normal higher rate of distortions

[dusty sigil]

Alternatively yah, if this is even worse then the smoke war then a shit ton of natural distortions will happen anyway

Just from all the people losing everything

[worthy haven]

I wonder if pecs would also be like fairly common place

[dusty sigil]

I mean those have already been weaponized

[ebon forge]

dias, genuine question, what flavor of crack are you on

[dusty sigil]

So probably

[eternal berry]

Money

[ebon forge]

anyone think about how m@lkuth's censor looks like monolith?

[dusty sigil]

A random casino was able to get them and train them as basically attack dogs

[vagrant dove]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-money-giveittome-mr-krabs-spongebob-gif-4184913

[ebon forge]

also is pequod ish any good

[vagrant dove]

Ahabmael?

Pretty solid iirc

[ebon forge]

i wanna build a breed/porn triple status team

bleed burn combo is wild

burn poise lmao

[dusty sigil]

Unfortunately she will not be contributing to the burn stack

But other then that, yah she’s solid

[ebon forge]

need her for md triple status

[dusty sigil]

Especially if your team has easy access to pride resonance

[ebon forge]

i want molar ish cuz she fine asf but shes tremor which is fucked asf

[vagrant dove]

I like tremor 🙁

I don't fully understand it and I fear I never will, but the tremor burst sound activates my neurons

[stoic fjord]

she barely does tremor and it's mostly there to make conditionals for nutty amounts of sinking

[vagrant dove]

I also might be addicted to time moratorium

[stoic fjord]

she's tremor the same way Maost and MB Outis are poise

[vagrant dove]

It's such a fun mechanic to just build a nuke on some poor unsuspecting boss and like

Wait till it explodes

[dusty sigil]

Actually she doesn’t use her self tremor for her sinking conditionals

[worthy haven]

weaponised ye but I also just mean roaming the battlefields due to all the clashing and so many people despairing but not being "cool" enough to distort

[split beacon]

Time Mora is actually mad fun and makes Tremor a much cooler status independently of flavors

and that's a good thing

[stoic fjord]

oh no I know that

[dusty sigil]

She inflicts fragile via spending her tremor

[vagrant dove]

I love t corp ids

[stoic fjord]

I'm just saying that she's not really there for tremor

[dusty sigil]

Oh shoot, my bad

[stoic fjord]

she's there to tickle some tremor onto the enemies so she can spend it to inflict sinking

[ebon forge]

wait molar outis sorry bruh

[stoic fjord]

ohhhhhhh okay lmao

[ebon forge]

i could use a benchfau

[stoic fjord]

grip?

[ebon forge]

yeeah lmao

[vagrant dove]

Although i'm in a bit of a quandrary when it comes to VDCU Outis, because Udjat Outis is also a reallt fun id

So i just swap between them

[stoic fjord]

jerker outis 😌

[split beacon]

Udjat Outis for Sinking and VCDU Outis for Tremor duh

[stoic fjord]

I will probably build tremor soon

[dusty sigil]

I wanna see uncle Heathcliff needing to take care of Araya while Ryoshu is unavailable so bad

[stoic fjord]

I know I said I'd never do it but also I need to build or else I'll die

[split beacon]

Big Bro Heathcliff you mean

[vagrant dove]

I can't wait for outis' canto where she will say "the odyssey... truly did have a purpose" and the credits will roll

This was our limbus company, in the end

[dusty sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/ricardo-limbus-company-ricardo-limbus-company-gif-17002071312583705402

[vagrant dove]

Ricardo heathcliff id soon trust the plan

That or fishmael, but she now has a middle id

[uneven canopy]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qh60n8/just_one_more_color_fixer_bro_i_can_stop_getting/

[tired canyon]

||"Yo yoshihide,youre bein' a bitch. no niece of mine is a bitch. lock the fuck in.

anyway,i should be going back to hell now. later."||

how the hell am i suypposed

to keep madokadon in neg sanity

[stoic fjord]

iirc she's meant to naturally switch in and out

[vagrant dove]

I can only imagine the disruption to her collecting spree during ruina

[gentle mulch]

youre supposed to alternate yeah

or

you could overclock her constantly

[uneven canopy]

we gotta know if iori and dias are on speaking terms

[ebon forge]

actually

bl meursault?

or bl fau cuz faucompany

[vagrant dove]

Bl meursault is quite good

As far as i remember

Not sure about bl faust

[gentle mulch]

bl meursault is preddy good

iirc bl faust is okay

[ebon forge]

acquired

ill do faustcompany sooner or later

[cosmic gorge]

"go ahead, win the clash"

[split beacon]

Blade Lineage is fun

Need more Index team fill so I can play Prescript Company

Pure poise kinda sad to play rn

[mystic ermine]

"It would appear that in your boundless efforts to win a clash, and by extension, kill me, you have neglected the fact that I seem to he in possession of your entire skeletal structure."

[faint pivot]

What about the urchin-like Fairy status effect?

[split beacon]

I’m unclear if that’s anything other than the wounds Fairy inflicts

Fairy seems to be depicted as either a golden blur that causes random incisions all over the target, or as Pillars

[faint pivot]

What

[split beacon]

Zena doesn’t use Fairy

[faint pivot]

What is that proper noun

[split beacon]

Fairy, or Line

Line is an unknown Singularity Zena is imbued with, which enables her to unleash seemingly unstoppable ranged attacks as well as Birdcage, a variant that pins a target in place and immobilizes them

Her Line attacks don’t carry Fairy or any particular status effect, but they Power Null which usually means they are mildly unstoppable

[faint pivot]

Where was that mentioned?

[faint pivot]

Twas Line, thank you

[bronze zephyr]

ABSORBANT ROBERT
QUADRILATRAL TROUSERS

[stoic fjord]

he's british

[atomic steeple]

Pffft

[cosmic gorge]

This made me remember that fau and greg are both german

[atomic steeple]

Canto 9 spoilers, cut up like limbus boss trend
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldio88E0VO0||

[bronze zephyr]

Sinclair too, though I think it's a dialect

[atomic steeple]

Shit, forgot to try out gebura 7th bullet on mirror dungeon

[atomic steeple]

Well, greg's language (and association name) might be Hebrew

[bronze zephyr]

oh right true

[atomic steeple]

Or Yiddish

[cosmic gorge]

Yeap
Greg like kafka is austrian jewish
Hence why he hasmore than one spingebob

[worthy haven]

and also czech (but still austrian since he was born in austria-hungary)

Sinclairs author is swiss-german (born in calw germany but then went to Bern and Basel) and the book plays entirely in germany in calw shortly before ww1

[faint pivot]

Verg following up on the bit

Critical hit

[keen palm]

Sinclair is Swiss also

Oh wair yeah

Vero got it

[faint pivot]

I love that Kim and Kimsault wear a shirt and tie under their garb

[split beacon]

They’re like the Index, they’re tuxed up under the uniform lmao

[ebon forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QiCRo41Hng

[uneven canopy]

||of course the ads come through like clear water||

[faint pivot]

Accurate

[ebon forge]

makimakipoipoi is the artist

i love how we have like, canonically lesbians

[stoic fjord]

ok not quite

but also yeah they're 100% gay for each other

[ebon forge]

yeah but tbf pmoon rarely writes romance that isnt automatically tragic asf and doomed from the start

which, im only aware of...

two or three of them

heath & cathy, roland and angelica

is it ever written if Rien had a wife specifically?

i cant remember

[bronze zephyr]

||wife and child i think||

[tiny cave]

Got a gay couple before we got a lesbian couple

[split beacon]

I’m blanking, who?

[keen palm]

I dont think Zilu and Zigong do anything more than just like

Stand next to each other in scenes

[split beacon]

If I’ve learned anything from Terepy Pypes, those are the same things

[keen palm]

The only canonical lesbian no smoke no mirrors we have is the girl who hit on Faust in the club

K Corp girl is heavily implied but not confirmed

[tiny cave]

Benjamin and Ayin obv

[split beacon]

Ah ofc

[tiny cave]

Emma and Noah as well

[stoic fjord]

gory but in a very anatomical way

[keen palm]

https://youtu.be/EHz7nZIQmPM?si=A-zfEoeHUdDRWrNx

[faint pivot]

You are corr-I mean what

[stoic fjord]

incorrect

Julia and Isadora

[faint pivot]

Hong Lu has not changed

[faint pivot]

Zilu Heng...wow

[tiny cave]

Honestly was kinda hoping we’d get an Isadora ID even though she’s just a nameless Zwei 6 goon pretty much

[stoic fjord]

what

Red what the fuck are you talking about

[faint pivot]

5th image

The one where Zigong dislikes the yellow one's clothes

[stoic fjord]

...

that's

LCB Sinner uniforms

Zigong is wearing Don Quixote's uniform

[tiny cave]

LCB Sinner Lei Heng coming trust

[faint pivot]

Huh

[stoic fjord]

and I think Zilu has... Rodion?

[faint pivot]

Oh excuse me she looks beautiful either way

[stoic fjord]

true

[neat cedar]

you forgot shrenne

who laptop password was literally missyouran

Like if that's not canonically lesbian, i dunno what is

[split beacon]

It’s one lesbian, not a canon couple

[stoic fjord]

yeah

[neat cedar]

not a couple

[stoic fjord]

one-sided pining is cool and all but we're going for couples specifically

[neat cedar]

i was refering to what voy was saying tho

[stoic fjord]

okay yeah fair

[neat cedar]

but ye as far as couples

[stoic fjord]

I think that's what they meant by K Corp girl though

[neat cedar]

mainly been straught onee

and i still say if your password is literally yearning, that is pretty confirmed to me

it's not like Ran died or anything, at that point she had just quit/gotten fired i think

[keen palm]

I done did say Dat tho

But yeah also I do think Confirmed is different than heavily implied

[stoic fjord]

agreed

[karmic escarp]

remembered something really funny so i didnt play p1 or p2 of 9 on release but didnt really see much in the way of spoilers (since 90% of pm fans are fucking stupid i dont really follow any)
except for one thing ||involving bamboo-hatted kim, so i spent the entirety of my time reading p1+2 waiting for him to show up only for me to realize i had been trolled and he only got a mention ||

[fluid whale]

lmao

[ebon forge]

oh fuck me

best and worst part of pmoon is guessing which books theyll reference

[keen palm]

https://www.tumblr.com/mtmrem/806117171710361600/alyssapilled?source=sharehttps://www.tumblr.com/mtmrem/806117171710361600/alyssapilled?source=share

=P

alyssapilled

-# #project moon #limbus company #canto 9 spoilers #canto ix spoilers #limbus company spoilers #lcb hohenheim #lcb alyssa #lcb marton

Tumblr · Jan 18, 2026, 9:54 PM

[ebon forge]

i thought those were real ids for a sec

then i realized they edited the faces

[uneven canopy]

https://youtu.be/yJCw6RU5FsA all of canto 8 spoilers

[gentle mulch]

I MISS YOU HONG LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

i need him to show up asap

turn that shit OFFFFFFFFFFFFF make me SUFFER

[uneven canopy]

||https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qhgzgm/a_cruel_fate_by_fjshjsh/|| big canto 9 part 3 spoilers

not a gif, audio in post

[ebon forge]

luciocliff who backstabbed Val and became the nursefather

[split beacon]

you know, you can really see a resemblance

[bronze zephyr]

I can't, am i missing something sdfkjsdn

[split beacon]

build, height, face shape to a degree, pose / posture, hair color

also they wield nearly identical weapons and notably both use an attack called Disposal that refreshes if it eliminates a marked enemy

[lean fjord]

Their swords are definitely similar in looks

[bronze zephyr]

oh i forgot ab disposal lol yeah

[vagrant dove]

Bamboo Hatted HIM will rebuild the blade lineage in 9.5 trust

[ebon forge]

also

the more i think about it

the more i wish the apprentices didnt die

because they're all crazy interesting characters

Lucio had dreams but he was too loyal to act upon them

Ren could've been so much more...

everyone...

guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[cosmic gorge]

We had to pay the Xichun debt fivefold

[mint cliff]

Next intervallo is just gonna be the therapy session

[cosmic gorge]

It all goes well until the chaplain-coded therapist presses Meur's buttons and he explodes

S.E.A. part 2

[vagrant dove]

Too many side characters lived, kjh had to start killing them off to meet the Quota

[atomic steeple]

Zigong got a meat bun for zilu, eh?

[atomic steeple]

Show the sheep to Sophia when it pops over here

[cosmic gorge]

zigong wilde and zilu hopps is funny

getting on a time machine and showing Confucius yuri art of his disciples before he hits me with the Shandong Special

[vagrant dove]

Also on this topic, I was going back over some of the ||ring node dialogues and like, poor Albina||

||her definition of what friendship is may be super warped by her circumstances, but she did genuinely seem to want to have friends||

[cosmic gorge]

https://www.tumblr.com/sea-adhesive-art/806262355910705152/you-took-his-food-coupon

Sea Adhesive Art

YOU TOOK HIS FOOD COUPON!!

Oh Neptune, someone took his coupons for the free food at the Krusty Krab! What will the sinners of this mirror world do?

I made a speedpaint for this drawing. It somehow took me forever...

-# #art #digital art #spongebob #daydreaming #spongebob fanart #spongebob squarepants #limbus company #ricardo limbus company #project moon #project moon fanart #patrick star

Tumblr · Jan 20, 2026, 12:21 PM

[gentle mulch]

imagining the idea of angela watching dante and being like yeah yk what here's some light for another durante power

[dusty sigil]

Roland and Angela haven’t had much to do since the library got expelled from the city so they’ve just been tuning into the bus crew like a soap opera

We go to the library and Hong Lu wants to kill then all

[mystic ermine]

I have it
after all this time
burn team

Anywho, uptying her now

I
this is
envy res
Right
kind of
surely

I got like
fucken
three payorff staytions ig

it works

C9 spoilers

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

I hate T Corp.

Killing it.

Herbert? great guy

it

[mystic ermine]

It kind of works?

Wait, Magical Girl Don works better

[cloud wadi]

Lyes

More envy

[gentle mulch]

Middledon helps Middleclair ramp up but yeah Madonka is better generally iirc

[mystic ermine]

hey, look, you don't have t-

[cloud wadi]

She has to

[gentle mulch]

i gotta

me when im fucking bored so the magic bullet hits whoever today

[mystic ermine]

there is something

kind of funny

about like
"YEESSS YOI WON A STRUGGLKING CLASH., GO,. GO OUTIS, SHOOT THEM, KI- Outis. Outis, hey. hey that's... that's not the enemy therre. Outis. Why is the boss in the background. HEY!! HEY!! THOSE ARE MY SINNERS OUTIS!! STO-"

[gentle mulch]

WAITWAITWAITWAIT

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-wait-wait-gif-8174347161288218584

[mystic ermine]

You, my friend

you are the reason for the very first third warning

[atomic steeple]

Reminded of a guy in digimon frontier, a sort of shaman
He's trying to kill like, 1 or 2 characters?
Then they say they mean no harm, abd want to be friends
He goes back to attacks, claiming true friendship starts in the next world
They manage to convince him he can have living friends

[mystic ermine]

No
No i dont' think I will

[vagrant dove]

Common firearm ego experience

Fell bullet yi sang when he has to shoot heathcliff because he's bored

[stoic fjord]

on a scale of 1 to 10 how boned am I

(I have some funny mods for color fixer E.G.O because I feel like taking it chill)

99% sure the "unknown" is WhiteNight btw

cuz I did not fucking put it there and something else moved

and I don't think anything else does that

[mystic ermine]

I
I mean

if you can
work with all of them

you're fine :D

[vagrant dove]

I love how argalia was banished to information

He doesn't get to join the cool kids club (verg, roland, angelica)

[stoic fjord]

it's fucking whitenight

[mystic ermine]

do you have a fully decked out nugget

[stoic fjord]

Iori is in Safety because I don't trust her

[stoic fjord]

I have a Justitia working on Whitenight

so I think I'm fine

okay so

I've come to a realization

Whitenight is not the problem

not even slightly

Melting Love is infinitely worse

I FORGET A SINGLE INSIGHT WORK

AND SOMEONE IS DEAD

good thing is that they're expendable

bad thing is that holy shit this is an actually torturous abno

okay so somehow

we went from "single employee died"

to

massive lagspike as every ALEPH but whitenight breaches at the same time

[stoic fjord]

yeah ok we're not dealing with lob corp today

as it would turn out

CENSORED, Nothing There, Melting Love, and Whitenight in the same facility

is rough

[atomic steeple]

Oof

[stoic fjord]

and I'm 99% sure I misclicked and got blue star in disciplinary as well

so I'm lowkey fried on this one

[atomic steeple]

Do you have Paradise Lost?

[stoic fjord]

I will be trying to continue but also holy shit

[stoic fjord]

no lmao

I'm trying to get it

but my Justitia user just died after every ALEPH, Big Bird, and King of Greed breached at the same time

so I don't have anyone suitable to work on it

I might mem repo

Angela watching me fumble the entire bag after picking 5 ALEPHs and 4 WAWs in a row before day 30 (she's going to have to suffer another time loop)

[cloud wadi]

There are abnos that sometimes move themselves around to, I dunnow, get better view or smth

[tired canyon]

who wins in a fight between

papa don and elena

witouth any nerfs

[dusty sigil]

Papa don

He’s as close as you can get to the original bloodfiend

We don’t know Elena’s generation but I really doubt she’s first

[tired canyon]

no generation

she was never human

[bronze zephyr]

???

[dusty sigil]

What?

[tired canyon]

didnt Distoriton detective mention that she was born as a bloodfiend

[dusty sigil]

Maybe? I haven’t read DD yet

[stoic fjord]

I swear I remember something about her equating to a 3rd kindred

or having distorted into one

[bronze zephyr]

I also haven't read DD lol

[split beacon]

I dunno how clearcut it is just because

if we're talking about starved Dad Quixote and Elena, we gotta keep in mind

Elena was unironically on that Dracula Flow shit, she was her

Solo Star of the City ahh Bloodfiend who was ripping apart Grade 1s and bodying Colors

[dusty sigil]

I mean I assume no nerfs means both are adequately fed

[split beacon]

oh if Papa Don is adequately fed it's not close lmao

but if it was the fightable versions of both of them we see in their respective games?

[dusty sigil]

Yah the starved Quixote we see in canto 6 would probably lose to blood gorged Elena

[split beacon]

Elena might give Dad Quixote a run for the money if not outright win

[stoic fjord]

Papa Don genuinely hits her with the "Kill yourself, NOW!" and she turns to liquid I think

or wait is that a within the bloodline only thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zws8P5Ar24

MDE experience

[dusty sigil]

Since Elena like you said was able to almost kill a color fixer

She ain’t no slouch

[tired canyon]

"almost"

the vermillion cross bloodbag:

[split beacon]

the vermillion cross got jumped

[dusty sigil]

Ok that was with the whole gang though

I’m talking about Angelica

[split beacon]

fucking jambi the genie and the blue meanie were there for that one

[cloud wadi]

Elena as we fought in game vs Don Quixote as we fought in game

No question Elena wins

[dusty sigil]

If you put the reverberation ensemble together there’s genuinely very few groups in the city that could beat them

[cloud wadi]

Both at their peak

Probably Don Quixote

[dusty sigil]

Like, they can rival corps at that point

[stoic fjord]

the original question said no nerfs

[eternal berry]

If un-nerfed means Dad Quixote with a proper amount of blood, then the metric I'll use is that I don't see Elena surviving a match with Bari
I don't think it'd be a total wash - it'd be a fight - but yeah, she'd ultimately lose

[stoic fjord]

so like, at their peak, properly fed, etc.

[split beacon]

Elena is definitely some kind of weird mutation amongst Bloodfiends if she ain't at least a Third Kindred

[cloud wadi]

I think Elena is stronger than Sancho

[split beacon]

Elena probably is stronger than Sancho yeah

[cloud wadi]

But probably weaker than Don Quixote at full strength

[split beacon]

the thing I think muddies it

[stoic fjord]

||do we get to say Don Quixote has one of Sancho's lances like he did in the Bari duel?||

[dusty sigil]

I imagine the thousands of people she drank and 0 offspring to take care of gave her an edge over the others of the third generation

[split beacon]

is that Papa Don is also notably trying his softest in his bossfight

[keen palm]

Elena isn't an "actual" Bloodfiend I thought

[cloud wadi]

We don’t know what Elena’s generation number is

She is

[dusty sigil]

Because there’s no way she’s equal to the barber and priest

[stoic fjord]

||doesn't he use like, skill 1s only||

[split beacon]

no Elena is the real deal

[cloud wadi]

She predates distortion phenomenon

[bronze zephyr]

||could elena beat the green deliverance lmao||

[cloud wadi]

And a real bloodfiend calls her family

[stoic fjord]

100%

[dusty sigil]

Genuinely probably

[cloud wadi]

A first kindred at that

[keen palm]

Oh wait no, it's uhhhh

[split beacon]

sorry but yeah she would wash him

[keen palm]

The Hotel Lady

[stoic fjord]

like it's not a wash

[keen palm]

isn't a "real" bloodfiend right

[bronze zephyr]

fucked up

[stoic fjord]

but also it'd be fucked

[split beacon]

no it kinda is

[cloud wadi]

She is

[keen palm]

I feel someone lied to me

[dusty sigil]

God bloodfiend lore is confusing…

[stoic fjord]

okay yeah true I haven't played through the ensemble yet

[cloud wadi]

She is trying to hire Moses because there is a non-real distortion bloodfiend muscling in her turf

[stoic fjord]

trying to do apocalypse bird first

[cloud wadi]

But she herself is a real full traditional bloodfiend

[split beacon]

like I think Elena would probably hose out Vespa and Vergilius would have to sweat for the W

[stoic fjord]

how does both Verg and Elena using blood factor into this

[split beacon]

baby bee would lose that one, not by a longshot or anything but I don't think he's got that

[cloud wadi]

The big question with any Vergil v Bloodfiend fight is who’s gonna wrest control of the Blood I think

[split beacon]

Vergil's got the 1st gen eyes, so probably verg...

[dusty sigil]

Yah Vergilius does have the advantage of his eyes

[cloud wadi]

Because it turns out sufficient levels in blood sorcery can allow one to just turn off blood related ego

[stoic fjord]

oh yeah true

[dusty sigil]

Since he implies they do grant him the familial authority their original owners had

[stoic fjord]

.

[cloud wadi]

Moses tries to use her red ego against the hotel lady

[dusty sigil]

So like, most bloodfiends can’t even attack him if they wanted to

[tired canyon]

she mentions "going to that mansion" which

[cloud wadi]

Who just waves her hand and turns off Moses’ ego

[stoic fjord]

for Elena and Don

[tired canyon]

i can only imagine is in reference to nosferatu

[split beacon]

I think that's just the circumstance in which she was turned

[stoic fjord]

is that why bro aura farmed over Don Quxiote so hard

[dusty sigil]

Attempted to anyway

[cloud wadi]

I think bloodfiends are just partial to gothic architecture if you ask me

Papa Quixote was also living in a large gothic mansion

[dusty sigil]

Rocinante didn’t let it work

[keen palm]

I don't know if Bloodfiends have filial piety to other Family's bloodfiends

[cloud wadi]

Sorta

[keen palm]

I don't think it's ever come up

[cloud wadi]

Sancho is instinctively reverant to Vergil

[stoic fjord]

I don't think it's as strong, but still present

[cloud wadi]

Because he has the eyes of a first kindred

[eternal berry]

I doubt it's anywhere near as strict, but it likely has some influence - otherwise, why would Verg bother busting out the eyes and using them to remind Don, given the two aren't in the same line

[keen palm]

Well, she's also doing that because he's a Color

[cloud wadi]

She didn’t know he was a color fixer at the time

[dusty sigil]

Yah filial piety just didn’t affect Don

Remember when they first met, she didn’t care about him until he mentioned he was a color

[stoic fjord]

Don is not affected by it while Rociante is on, no?

[cloud wadi]

He stares into her eyes and demands loyalty and she just goes still.

[dusty sigil]

But he seemed genuinely surprised she didn’t

[keen palm]

But like, Don wasn't reverent because of the eyes, she momentarily was sparked into lucidity

[cloud wadi]

True

[dusty sigil]

Yah, when her powers are suppressed so is her deference

[cloud wadi]

But Vergil seemed to expect it would work anyways

[stoic fjord]

and I feel like if you're close enough friends with a 1st kindred to have the guy give you his eyes

[dusty sigil]

Yah, it isn’t until then that he pulls the “btw I’m the red gaze” trick

[stoic fjord]

you'd probably know how that shit works

[cloud wadi]

The bloodfiends also talk about how distressing they found killing members of other Bloodfiend clans

So

Probably not as strong of a bond

But still extant

[dusty sigil]

Yah it’s probably just lesser

[keen palm]

Well that's just also race solidarity

[tired canyon]

does that mean that don quixote isnt actually bathless now

[dusty sigil]

Like, it’s easier to kill your uncle then your dad

[dusty sigil]

Apparently rocinante is self cleaning so I think she just brings them into the showers

Alternatively the other sinners just hold her down really hard

[cloud wadi]

I think she herself is self cleaning lmao

[dusty sigil]

Like bathing a cat

[cloud wadi]

Probably uses minor blood magic to clean herself

[keen palm]

Don Quixote canonically bathes with Rochiante on

They say that explicitly

[cloud wadi]

Actually yeah

[split beacon]

you guys it's really simple

[cloud wadi]

She does say that

[split beacon]

she's in da bath, feet stickin out

Rocinante on

pretty fucken simple

[cloud wadi]

Kinda impressive tbh

[tired canyon]

i was talking more about

[cloud wadi]

She’s still scared of water isnt she

[tired canyon]

the bloodfiend fear of water

but yeah

[cloud wadi]

My headcanon is that she fills the tub with so much bath product

[split beacon]

she doesn't feel that with Rocinante equipped

[cloud wadi]

That it stops being registered as water to her

[ebon forge]

Bubble bath don

[keen palm]

Don in the bath like

[dusty sigil]

Oil bath Don

[cloud wadi]

She vomits in her mouth just thinking about being in water with Rocinante on

[keen palm]

Don gets dust baths

like a chinchilla

[cloud wadi]

So she doesn’t have as strong of a reaction but she still gets some reaction

[split beacon]

wait what

[keen palm]

https://tenor.com/view/chinchilla-gif-24850606

[split beacon]

she totally does

is Rocinante stupid

[cloud wadi]

Her announcer line

[dusty sigil]

She has her own bathroom in the bus

[cloud wadi]

Is like “maybe these guys have a weakness, like me with water— reverts to Sancho voice fuck, just thinking about it sickens me…”

[split beacon]

ahem

papa don

I don't understand

you were able to make Rocinante eliminate the desire to drink blood but you couldn't handle the water thing?

[cloud wadi]

Well

Faust mentions that Rocinante can’t eliminate desire to drink blood

[keen palm]

That's Don yeah

[cloud wadi]

Our Don was just tanking the desire all that time

[split beacon]

oh okay I must've forgotten

in that case Don is just built different ig

[cloud wadi]

Yep

[dusty sigil]

Well she can tank it, until

You know

[cloud wadi]

She can tank it until she can’t

And drains a city block or two

[stoic fjord]

she's a second kindred as well

[dusty sigil]

Can’t wait

[stoic fjord]

so I figure it's easier for her

similar to Papa Don

[cloud wadi]

If anything it’s harder

[keen palm]

It's explicitly harder

[stoic fjord]

i thought it was the other way around?

damn

Papa Don was locked the fuck in, huh?

[keen palm]

No, the higher generation, the more you are burdened by those below you

[cloud wadi]

Creating more kindred shares the burden out

But she has created none

[dusty sigil]

Yah, it’s why they make families

[cloud wadi]

So she endures the entire weight of the desire on her lonesome

[dusty sigil]

It spread their curse out more

[stoic fjord]

ohhhhh ookay

I forgot

bricked out

alright time to grind ticket lux

[tired canyon]

they mention that

his delusions replaced the need for blood

if i remembher correctly

[cloud wadi]

In terms of willpower papa Don is just built different

[dusty sigil]

In general it seems having dreams beyond basic survival is the best way for a bloodfiend to resist their need for blood

Since blood is both for survival but also emotional fulfillment for them

[cloud wadi]

I wonder which school of art the bloodfiend maestro is part of

[keen palm]

Any Bloodfiend can seemingily defeat the need for blood if they have a potent enough desire yea

[tired canyon]

Sancho is also not only dealing with thirst but

Also with a need to make more kindreds

Which don doesn't have since lamanchaland was fucking titanic

[dusty sigil]

The problem is that in a place like the city, basic survival comes first

[stoic fjord]

I become a bloodfiend and suffer no bloodthirst due to my unending desire to collect as much Hatsune Miku merchandise as possible

[dusty sigil]

Doubly so when you’re a bloodfiend and most will try and kill you if they see you

[ebon forge]

You know they’d probably tweak tf out seeing sancho’s weaponry

[dusty sigil]

There isn’t room for dreams in the city, dreams are for the outskirts

[stoic fjord]

I will not stop until every inch of my room is wallpapered in Hatsune Miku posters and every shelf is lined with plushies

[cloud wadi]

I think legit they’d try to murderize Sancho out of principle for being a dirty kinslayer but haha

[ebon forge]

All like, “My good heavenly saints, blessed art thine lance”

[eternal berry]

Become a Bloodfiend! Trade one kind of being endlessly rolled beneath the City's crushing cycle for another!

[cloud wadi]

You know

[ebon forge]

Me resisting the urge because I have too much lust reson that overpowers the baby kindred lust reson

[cloud wadi]

I’m wondering if Elders of V corp is a mistranslation

And they are actually supposed to be Senators

[stoic fjord]

alright buddy

[tired canyon]

Insert that "I need to be bread" meme here

[cloud wadi]

Because Senator and Elder share most of the word

In Korean

[tired canyon]

Elena made her entire HOUSE out of arteries dude

She wore a coat made of the last people she ate

The ring would love that stuff

[stoic fjord]

as always

fighting the urge to shard abysmal dogshit instead of saving shards

[bronze zephyr]

i am saving all my shards until i use my s7 ticket to try for seasonal ryoshu

[stoic fjord]

ohhh right that ticket

I already used it lmao

[bronze zephyr]

if i end up getting udjat outis i will crash out

[stoic fjord]

stupid fucking move

but I wanted InFau

[keen palm]

new ring art movement of architecture

everyone runs

[uneven canopy]

they're gonna cremate everybody in a city block and use their ashes for concrete mix

and then build a pencil tower out of it

[split beacon]

-# from @MisayuRi17

[atomic steeple]

Oh my gods

That's brutal

[split beacon]

I hear it. The skittering, abominable echo outside the window...

[cloud wadi]

How many bullets would valencina id carry

Did Lucio use bullets actually

[split beacon]

he did not

god, it would be so gas if after we see a surviving Kira, ||we get hit with Lucio Jumpscare because it was just a missing heart and the City can patch those up, and the prophecy of him becoming a WAY better swordsman after clashing with Virgilius comes true||

oh also Valencina is a fuckin' freak, she carries 10 rounds of Accel Rounds but she also reloads when Precognition kicks in

and is a Bremoise unit

with a devious gimmick of triggering extra Tremor Bursts on crit

[dusty sigil]

Chat, ||I think a lot of people missed that Saude is on leave for now||

||and Pilot is still recovering||

||So I wonder who’s gonna run the before team now||

[stoic fjord]

https://youtu.be/xqEnHxod50w

[dusty sigil]

||We need someone to constantly disappoint||

[dusty sigil]

Finally

Limbus has a real fandom now

[stoic fjord]

||Dias needs her emotionally vulnerable teenagers to turn into obedient living weapons Lucio lives trust||

[stoic fjord]

That's what I'm sayin

[stoic fjord]

If Penelope is a woman is Outis gay and european

[dusty sigil]

I remember when every semi popular game had two things:

An animatic to gay or European

Animatics to John Mulaney standup

[keen palm]

And

"Who broke it"

[dusty sigil]

Ah shit yah I forgot about that one

Three things

From @ g1a1c2a1e2e2d2

Very complicated name this time

[stoic fjord]

also a lot of animation memes

also animatics to brooklyn 99

[uneven canopy]

im hearing on the wind that ||some chinese players are kinda miffed at canto 9 because ryoshu's new scabbard looks to be written with Microsoft YaHei, which looks rather plain||

[split beacon]

lol

[keen palm]

Why would chinese players be upset?

Isn't it japanese?

[split beacon]

incoming sprite update...

[dusty sigil]

free 10 pull

[uneven canopy]

chinese characters show up in japanese writing

the writing system's built off of it if i recall

[unique bane]

||who's mari in that situation?||

[dusty sigil]

||Ryoshu||

[split beacon]

||in terms of dead person who haunts the shit out of the living protag, Matthias, but it's a whole different dynamic||

[uneven canopy]

||ryoshu's their oldest sibling who went off to college maybe||

[uneven canopy]

i found this as an example of what it would look like to english readers approx.

[atomic steeple]

We need halloween heists

[keen palm]

https://www.tumblr.com/thechuppster/806151850386685952?source=share

chuppy

-# #limbus company #ryoshu lcb #lcb #my art

Tumblr · Jan 19, 2026, 7:05 AM

[uneven canopy]

a smokers grueling path to not smoke local shit

https://www.txtumblr.com/mtmrem/806203810640953344/i-have-cuteness-aggression-over-3-grown-ass-adults?source=share

[ebon forge]

tfh_arts

[dusty sigil]

Huh, ||all Lucio is now the second thumb member we know that doesn’t use bullets in anyway||

||Him and Boris||

[ebon forge]

Honestly valid for once

[dusty sigil]

I might just include Valencia in my Fabula game

I think it’s be very funny

[vagrant dove]

this image is so fucking funny to me for some reason

i think it's because the remember looks like someone added it in post

[stoic fjord]

that's the point

it looks very plain and like. too neat

[vagrant dove]

yeah I know

[stoic fjord]

it's a comaprison for-

ah ok mb

[vagrant dove]

I''m just saying I find that funny bc it's like

heathcliff put minimal effort into it

[stoic fjord]

I feel like it'd take way more effort to do that than the messily scratched on letters

[keen palm]

I had an idea for a thumb capo

[mystic ermine]

hold on

people

question about the ending of 9-51

[keen palm]

Oh nvm

[mystic ermine]

||How the fuck does Hermes know where the bad ending for Roland would have been||
if it's another ending that is canon to LoR

how the

FUCK

[keen palm]

Mirror worlds exist and the index may be aware of them

[mystic ermine]

right, probably a mirror world where that ending happeend

...

that's a lot more boring of an answer than I thought

but it makes sense

[dusty sigil]

What?

[mystic ermine]

chrm

may I ah

kindly request Linton Gregor, pretty please?

[split beacon]

sure give me a sec

[mystic ermine]

thank you

wsait, my friend code

[mystic ermine]

H105646980

lvl 50 will do

[split beacon]

Joke’s on you mine’s Lv60

[mystic ermine]

don't see i- ah, right, friend requests

[split beacon]

Yeah hold up I’m opening the game lol

[mystic ermine]

ohhh

makes sense, actually

[split beacon]

request sent

[karmic escarp]

geralt bathtub image but it's don with rocinante on

[split beacon]

this one?

[dusty sigil]

God they would use that

When Boris is made Sottocapo he’ll start using that

[mystic ermine]

I
I mightr be blind

nevermind

one refresh lat er

[split beacon]

lol

[mystic ermine]

Well

that was an ass first turn

4 favoured clashes

not a single head

[vagrant dove]

favoured sometimes feels like hopeless, I swear

[stoic fjord]

fuuuuhuuuuuck

I wanna get more resources already

event when...

[gentle mulch]

there are two clash types

dominating

and hopeless

and well. if you don't see dominating

it's hopeless

[cloud wadi]

sometimes if you see dominating

you should see hopeless

[stoic fjord]

(if the target has paralyze)

[dusty sigil]

From @ lets_lam3nt

One billion swords until I am dead

[stoic fjord]

I think I need to go lie down and cry a little

[dusty sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfTWgMgknpY

[eternal gull]

😭

[stoic fjord]

yo some mfs in the comments pointed something out

[tired canyon]

As cute as it would be

i dont see a world where

||the middle accepts kira||

[dusty sigil]

Oh shit I was just posting it because it said we live in hell

[dusty sigil]

Oh my fucking god

The Ryōshū line

Gonna fucking shoot myself

[stoic fjord]

wait what

what specifically does it relate to now that we're here

[neat cedar]

||Ryoshu did innfact stutter a lot as a child . . . ||

[stoic fjord]

I figure it's like. something. I'm just also lowkey exhausted and can't think straight rn

[dusty sigil]

||why’d you make me stutter and the reason she speaks in acronyms is because of her daughter||

[neat cedar]

also that

the gregor one is uh

yeah

[stoic fjord]

oh my god i'm going to blow up

[stoic fjord]

pelting you with rocks

[uneven canopy]

oh this story's been outlined a long time ago huh

[neat cedar]

mhmm

[dusty sigil]

I mean yah

We know they’ve changed it at least a little

[neat cedar]

Ifnyounwould turnnur attemtion to ryoshu's ego

[dusty sigil]

Heathcliff was apparently meant to get to Wurthering heights at Cathy’s funeral

Rather then a bit after her death

[neat cedar]

where you can see a safe innthe background

[dusty sigil]

Because in his reveal trailer CG he’s crashing the thing

[stoic fjord]

general ideas are the same

[stoic fjord]

ohhhh my god

oh my god I'm going to throw up

[neat cedar]

a safe/chest that is out of sight of the peering fingers

[dusty sigil]

Yah, it’s like most long running series

They’ve got their outline but stuff will change as they write it

[keen palm]

Shes not even in the middle

Her passive is Middle styled tattoos

[tired canyon]

thats exactly the point

[dusty sigil]

Also yah, ||none of the apprentices are actually in the organizations their nursefathers were apart of||

[keen palm]

Sora was in the Index technically

[dusty sigil]

||after all, their reward for their service in the house was rejoining the fingers||

[uneven canopy]

||it does just seem like she was shunted off to the shame house for some reason||

[neat cedar]

||I think mattias just picked her uo ybh||

[keen palm]

The apprentices were picked up by the nursefathers independently seems like

[neat cedar]

Seemed to be the case with the others, yeah

[dusty sigil]

Matthias finding the most praise starved teenager of all time and a lightbulb flashes over his head

[uneven canopy]

||didn't kira mention being told off by other brothers and sisters, she seems like she had some contact with them before being spider'd||

[tired canyon]

like

||lots of people are talking about wanting to see ricardo adopt kira to the middle but

the middle is a,above all,a gang.

and kira is some random explicitly wearing their colors. if anything,she is gonna get put in the book of vengeance||

[atomic steeple]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qi75hy/a_comic_where_ishmael_accidentally_calls_dante/

[uneven canopy]

bends my clock hands smugly

[atomic steeple]

Hong lu wasn't seen as a genius
Just a precious jade

[dusty sigil]

“Impersonating a member of the middle, the book says destruction of perpetrators ribs and wardrobe”

[neat cedar]

they weren't locked up.innthebhouse

[dusty sigil]

It’s the same idea though

Being seen as “special” by your family

[neat cedar]

I mean, same concept

[dusty sigil]

Being both coveted and exploited

[atomic steeple]

I don't see genius as fitting him

[neat cedar]

ye

i mean, it does tho

[atomic steeple]

He was meant to passively exist and observe

[neat cedar]

becausw hong lu has said time.and again thatbhe's extremely good at stuff he puts his mind too

[atomic steeple]

A genius actually applies skills

[neat cedar]

also the lyric isn't curse me with natural born genius

it's curse me with the phrase "you'rr a natural born genius"

aka expectation

like Hong Lu is smart, but his story is about the weight of expectation placed upon him and how his family expected him to be a specific way

no matter what

[stoic fjord]

it's not meant to be as literal, and is a slight stretch, but I think it fits

crushing weight of familial expectation and such

[neat cedar]

so even if the actual lyric doesn't match as well , the basic theme.still.fits

likr was said before

things might have changed over the year or two

and it still mostly holds true fornthe other sinners as well

[atomic steeple]

He wasn't meant to jockey for power or position, different from other kids in noble families

[stoic fjord]

Outis and Meursault, while less insight is had, I think probably fit

[neat cedar]

you've lost me

ye

[stoic fjord]

at the very least, Meursault's matches up somewhat with his book version? aiui?

[neat cedar]

TKT outis moment be like

[stoic fjord]

she actually seemed so sad 😭

[neat cedar]

and i thinknit fits Saultnwho is vwry

objective

but also has basically hit the point of "i don't do anything without being asked, because no one really cares for objectivity"

[atomic steeple]

Outdated slang
||https://old.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1qi6tpa/outdated_slang_by_mousugu_ie/||

[neat cedar]

pfffft

[stoic fjord]

hrm

I know she's probably like

a horrific war criminal or whatever idk

but also

from what we've seen of Outis

I think she's genuinely kind of adorable

like. idk. the way she seemed genuinely hurt and disappointed after Dante didn't list her as one of the three sinners to take along for the TKT investigation

[neat cedar]

Outis is extremely forthwright in very specific ways

and so needlessly sus in others

[stoic fjord]

I honestly think that's just how she is even when she isn't even ill-intentioned

rn my main thing is that I'm lowkey thinking she might be more of a victim of the smoke war than a perpetrator
like she probably did terrible shit but I'd like to think it was under duress
because iirc in the Odyssey, Odysseyus only goes to war because the life of his son is threatened

[neat cedar]

Yerp

the smoke ear,inngeneral

was somethingnthat no one wanted to.be in

younwere either forced into it bu affilicatiom or by desperation

still curious as to why

[split beacon]

I mean, judging by how the Sinners are escalating in terms of like

culpability and crime

[neat cedar]

Limbus Company told.us ti be suspicious of outis

[vagrant dove]

I think my favourite outis moment is when she gets upset that dante didn't follow along when she starts pretending to cosy up to Qingtao

In Nocturnal Sweeping

[split beacon]

with Ryoshu we've finally crossed over into Sinners who pretty solidly Did Something Wrong for their Sin

[neat cedar]

yeeee

[split beacon]

was it the best she could think to do at the time? maybe

but Ryoshu actually materially committed a wrong

well, hmm

so did Rodion I guess...

[neat cedar]

Greg meanwhile . . .

[uneven canopy]

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||moth girl pile||

[vagrant dove]

Like she is genuinely disappointed that dante thinks she'd fall for his shtick

[neat cedar]

Likr

[vagrant dove]

I think we see the mask she keeps on slip a bit there honestly

[neat cedar]

i am curious

how aware Greg is about, well

what he is

[split beacon]

actually hey hold the fuck on

[stoic fjord]

Yeah well I'm suspicious of the company

[split beacon]

Sin committed by Canto
1 - lived when he should've died (according to himself)
2 - committed a murder in defense of her community and triggered a massive retaliation from the Middle, invalidating it
3 - enabled Kromer in his moment of weakness, allowing her to kill everyone he knew and cared about
4 - fell into total stagnancy and didn't prevent N Corp from committing The Horrors with his tech
5 - couldn't and didn't stop Ahab
6 - misunderstood Cathy and stormed off to prove her wrong for choosing someone else
7 - ran away instead of taking responsibility and stopping her father
8 - in the face of unimaginable horrors, stopped trying to avert them
9 - abandoned her child in a long-shot attempt to get her out of the House of Spiders her way

two things

A) don't these Sins line up pretty well with the Sin Affinities of the Sinners' base EGOs

[dusty sigil]

From @ imhappyyeah464

[neat cedar]

yeeerp

[split beacon]

the people who gave up or couldn't prevent events all have Sloth or Gloom, Heathcliff's Envy stems from resentment, Rodion's Sin of Pride was what lead to her thinking she could Just Do It Herself, etc.

this will let us predict future sins I think somewhat

[neat cedar]

ryoshu's is lust

[stoic fjord]

I just realized we got a lot of prideful mfs on the team

[eternal gull]

I know this might be a bit of a duh obviously but was Carmen just straight up a psychopath for the entirety of lob corp

[vagrant dove]

Uhhhhhh

Interpretations vary

[neat cedar]

which is likelt ||her spreading the trauma to araya||

[eternal gull]

or uh, preceding events of lobcorp as it were

[dusty sigil]

Yah it was very annoying when I first started and didn’t have a team with pride skills so I just had no access to EGO

[atomic steeple]

Meursault is pride, but envy (friction with others) will likely be a secondary theme. That or sloth

[neat cedar]

not a psychopath atbfirst

[dusty sigil]

Meursault has no envy skills and 2 sloth skills

So it’ll probably be sloth

[neat cedar]

but soemthingnchanged between her death and her fusing with the Kight

[vagrant dove]

I'd like to say getting your nervous system ripped out of your body by Ayin and kept in a tank for a while would have effects on anyone though

So

Uh

[crimson spindle]

we have no idea, every version of her presented to us is by someone who has reasons to assume motives of her she doesn't show

[neat cedar]

or maybe she became the trueest version of herself

[crimson spindle]

including her presentation of herself to us in the light

[atomic steeple]

Chains of others has envy fuel

[split beacon]

so Ryoshu's Lust I think is in thinking that her way of doing things she learned from her Nursefathers is right

[eternal gull]

just I was listening to when Geburah/Kali talks about her encounter with her she doesnt seem to portray literally any emotion at even being picked up off the ground 😭

[split beacon]

like ironically she fucks herself over because she learned too well from her parents

[eternal gull]

strange

[neat cedar]

ye we dunno

[eternal gull]

I never considered that angle

[crimson spindle]

who is probably fundamentally different in a lot of ways than she was before she was ripped out into a living nervous system and then ascended into a weird omnipresent force

[split beacon]

Carmen is a genuine mystery

[neat cedar]

Carmen is more an idea

than a character

[split beacon]

we have very little idea what she was really like while human

[neat cedar]

whoever that woman was

[stoic fjord]

haunting the narrative so hard that no one even knows you, even in life

[eternal gull]

zealous and strong willed apparently

[stoic fjord]

and certainly not after death

[dusty sigil]

Still, sloth is one of the most common Meursault sins besides pride

[neat cedar]

she died and we never got to meet her

[split beacon]

because all the Sephirot present contractory versions of her

[eternal gull]

yeah

[split beacon]

like WILDLY contradictory ones

[crimson spindle]

basically the only thing everyone agrees on is that she had a dream, and she had charisma

the kind that sweeps you alongside her

[neat cedar]

mhmm

shenwas different things to different people

[split beacon]

actually it's kind of some sicko shit that the Sephirot / Patron Librarians all, when reflecting on Carmen

who is Da'at

[eternal gull]

mayhaps the idea is that her personality is one that she was willing to tell people what they wanted to hear (even in life) and could tell this easily, like a cult leader, manipulative and like

[split beacon]

see themselves

[neat cedar]

could be

we just

[eternal gull]

dont know

[atomic steeple]

I basically mean that envy and sloth are good candidates for him

[neat cedar]

can't really know for surr

[eternal gull]

yeah

[dusty sigil]

fair

[karmic escarp]

a puzzle cant be solved if it's missing pieces after all

[split beacon]

Carmen represents Da'at, the harmonious union of all the Sephirot

so if you ask any of them who Carmen is

[atomic steeple]

Charge or tremor season

[split beacon]

they just tell you about their own personal virtues instead

[eternal gull]

maybe limbus might shine some light n it, even if hers seems to be slowly retreating from the world (maybe...)

[neat cedar]

maybe

[vagrant dove]

My personal interpretation was Carmen very much changed as a result of everything that happened to her, embracing distortions as a way for people to realize their truest self, but that's my subjective opinion

[split beacon]

if anything I think Carmen is shining down on the world more strongly than ever

[neat cedar]

Carmen's role.innlimbusnis still

extremely fuckin weird

[atomic steeple]

Carmen had great legs, here's a fact

[eternal gull]

I hold her responsible for the distortions and some remaining abnormalities, as well as the expansion of ego gear

[split beacon]

like far from retreating from reality

[vagrant dove]

We fundamentally don't know enough about carmen the person

[crimson spindle]

i think she's more the ein sof

[neat cedar]

we have no idea whynshe's talkingnto dante

why she reads 9ver thebID atories

[crimson spindle]

but like, same answer really in this case

[neat cedar]

or why walpurgisnact ia a thing

[split beacon]

I mean her body is the Da'at position in the LCHQ Tree of Life diagram

although!

curiously, her body is inverted when the tree of life is put in its upright position

[crimson spindle]

the da'at channels the ein sof into creation

[split beacon]

oh also

another person who met Carmen and has something to say about her: Nikolai

[cloud wadi]

is killing a middle affiliated tax ollector really wrong though

[crimson spindle]

but specifically i think she's the ein sof because the ein sof emmanates into the ayin

[split beacon]

relatively unbiased outside views seem to coalesce on her being disturbingly changeable and turbulent

[crimson spindle]

who then births the sephirot

[stoic fjord]

no, but the way she went about everything led to the destruction of her community aiui

[crimson spindle]

and also that carmen is consistently associated with the sun/light

[split beacon]

that's fair yeah